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still reveling in the rivalry game, the win over.
Speaker 4: The Mighty of the North.
Speaker 3: One of the questions I'm gonna pose today, I want
to get Kugarnation involved on this is this Utah team,
essentially the same team that has been dominating the Pac
twelve over the last decade. This team is talented. This
team was five and one Top twenty five. They they
had the opportunity to have this as they're playing games
in the Big Twelve Championship just like BYU did. Yes,
they had to win in and a way setting. But
this Utah team has plenty of NFL talent, plenty of trafficks,
plenty of tenure as well. So my question you, is
this the same Utah team that essentially has been winning
Pack twelve titles right, going to bowl games, going to
Rose Bowl games, and then yes, falling a little bit
short in those Rose Bowl games.
Speaker 4: I think it is. I think this is the same thame.
Speaker 3: And what does that say about where BYU's at now
in the Big twelve? What does that say about where
BYU's at after being on the outskirts, wandering the desert
of independence over the last decade plus, and now in
year three on the same level or even surpassing the
level of the utes that have been dominating now a
defunct and dead conference, the BAC twelve. It's it speaks
to just how accelerated the nature and the progress of
BYU football has been over the last two and a
half years since they were included in the power structure
of college football. It's something to discuss, it's something to debate.
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Speaker 5: How theck are you, buddy? How long are we allowed
to hold on to this win? Like when we play
a state, do I have to stop thinking about it?
Or can I continue to revel in it for months
and weeks to come?
Speaker 4: When do I have to let go of this gift?
Speaker 3: I think with the rivalry game, you you hold on
to those frag rights until the next outing, until the
next composition.
Speaker 4: This is elongated.
Speaker 3: It's prolonged when it's at the heart of the community,
when it's at the the crux of this cooper ute
warfare year and in, year out, and you're.
Speaker 4: On a three game winning streak, you got bragging rights.
Speaker 3: Wherever you're roam, you got bragging rights, and you can
converse about this wherever you are.
Speaker 4: You can bring it up in casual conversation around the
water cooler.
Speaker 3: You can bring it up at church. You can bring
it up when you're dropping your kids off at take care.
You can bring it up when you're just in the
middle of the now. You want to call up that buddy,
that's a you fan to beck Hey, just so you know,
three and oh, Pal, three and O And then you
hang up and you say, what you should be awake anyways,
thinking about what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 4: That's that's what you do.
Speaker 5: I think I might just tweet it out in the
middle of January for just no reason, just tweet out
the score from a game in October, just just because
I can.
Speaker 4: As you should. Look, I'll tell you this much.
Speaker 3: When I was a player, Hey preparing in two thousand
and seven for I guess technically my third Holy War,
but I didn't play in O five. I was a
red Shirt, so I technically wasn't a part of that,
But so I guess playing it my second rivalry game.
I was getting prank calls, okay, in the middle of
the night from Utah fans that had had seized my number,
had found out what my number was, and they were
saying all manner of just derogatory things to me on
my cell phone. They're saying naughty, in an appropriate and
honor code violation things to me, and I was appalled.
Speaker 4: I was aghast. I had never heard such language.
Speaker 3: I had never been surrounded by such sin, I'm kidding,
but you know that that's what they did to me.
That's what that that's what they imposed on me as
a player. So no, I think everything's fair game. I
think most things are fair game. You can tepee your
your your your Utah friend's house, okay. And you can
write messages of go Koog's in the in the in
the driveway if you want, you know, sprinkle it with
some water so it sticks. You can tear it up
into little pieces into their grass and leave it there
as it wedged down, and it's gonna be a whole
lot more difficult to, you know, to retract from the grass.
These are all fair game things of the rivalry.
Speaker 5: I don't know how I forgot to tell this story yesterday,
but that story that you just told reminded me. I
was sitting at my home innocently on Friday night and
I get a text message from someone I had one
class with at BYU didn't I don't know either way.
Speaker 4: I get a text that says you didn't get this
from me?
Speaker 5: And then I get a phone number sent to me
and it says a certain quarterback's phone number. I said,
you're kidding, I said, are you gonna call it. He said, oh, brother,
I've been calling it. I said, you're kidding. I said,
did you get through? He said, oh yeah, bro, And
now I'm leaving voicemails.
Speaker 4: Now I want it.
Speaker 5: On the record that as a media member, as a
human being, I was like, look, I don't have beef
with Devin. I'm so I did not call the phone number.
I need that on the record, And I didn't mess
with Devin. I didn't call him. I didn't send the
number to anybody. But I was just in shock because
you hear about these things happening, but I've never been
a part of it. So when I'm sitting there on
Friday night and somebody sends me Devin Dampier's phone number,
I'm like, okay, so it.
Speaker 4: Really is going down like this.
Speaker 5: So I unfortunately like, look, we don't like utah, but
I don't wish that on anybody. So, however many phone
calls Devin Dampier got on Friday night, none of them
were for me, by the way. I apologize and uh,
but but it certainly was funny to know that it
was going on.
Speaker 4: But I didn't even think about that. I don't know.
Speaker 3: We didn't talk about that yesterday, you know, and if
you want to stop those, I figured out how to
finally how to stop the calls. Oh really, and it's
a little bit flamboyant, so work with me here.
Speaker 4: But I I know I've been prank called.
Speaker 3: I used to prank call a lot in like middle school,
high school, really oh yea yeah, prank calls.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. I mean look, I mean we all, yeah,
we all did.
Speaker 3: I mean I think a lot of us, like you know,
we prank called uh friends, family businesses. Like one of
the first like viral things I would say in radio
was like Arnold Schwarzenegger prank calls.
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard?
Speaker 3: Those were like different cuts from Arnold Schwarzenegger from movies.
Speaker 4: Would then call a business.
Speaker 3: And say hello, how are you yea, yeah, yeah, like
you know, like who's your dathy and what does he do?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: Like from kindergarten cop Like I mean that's what I
grew up on, right, And then there was there was
all manner of like radio shows that would do anyway.
Speaker 4: So we did it, okay, and we did it.
Speaker 3: So I learned really quick how to like how to
like extinguish like the novelty of a prank call, especially
when it's another dude, Especially when it's another dude that's
prank calling you. Right, So these Utah fans start prank
calling me and my like, I'm like, oh my gosh,
Like they're talking there, you know, and I initially kind of,
you know, go into it with them, like oh yeah, okay, yeah,
what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And then then you turn I know this
sounds a little bit controversial.
Speaker 4: You turn a little flamboy. You're like, oh yeah, talk
dirty to me. And they're like, uh, this.
Speaker 3: Is not getting the reaction, and like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
talk dirty.
Speaker 4: What is it? What are you gonna do to me?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah?
Speaker 4: And they just stop.
Speaker 3: They can't do it, they can't get into that mode,
and they just hang up and they stop calling.
Speaker 4: They're like, oh man, it may come one more time,
and you do it again.
Speaker 3: They're like all right, I don't know how to engage
in that. And it just stopped them. It's kind of
like my shush. The shush always stopped the trash stocking,
cause you can't really do anything. You get the shush
on the gridiron on the phone call, it stopped it.
I didn't get any more calls after eleven thirty. I
kind of put a kibosh on it right away. No
more calls in two thousand and seven. So hey, word
to the wa try it out sometimes when you get
the prank call, if you're willing to go that route,
if you're willing to go that route anyway, So anything
goes typically in rivalry week, and you can continue if
you so choose to bring it up in the middle
of night with friends and family members, if you so
choose right, you can brag all day every day about this.
Speaker 4: Guys, got a great show for you.
Speaker 3: Let's welcome in Andrew Peterson, our producer today. He's the
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Speaker 4: How you live it Well, I'm doing good.
Speaker 7: I'm learning what it's like as a backup to be
thrust into the starting role. This week's availability report, Ronald Weaver,
the third was listed as out day and so I
was thrust into a starting role. And there's been some
moments where I'm like, there's a reason I'm not the starter.
But you know, we're starting to we're starting to going
through the refining five. We're starting to figure it out,
you know, but BYU seven and zero. And it's funny
because last year, after win, we asked ourselves, is B
why you good?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: This year, after every win, we asked ourselves, is B
why you good? For the second straight year, we're seven
to zero in a power conference. At what point do
we start believing that B why you could actually win
this conference?
Speaker 4: Here's the trick.
Speaker 5: You don't because as soon as you do, then you
find out that you're bad.
Speaker 4: Well, Kalani mentioned it pride cycle.
Speaker 3: Right, he doesn't want to, you know he He's mentioned
pride and I talked about pride cycle all the time.
The humbles, stay humble, stay hungry mantra. It's an imperative
for any program.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think Nick Saban talks about rat poison. You don't
want to drink the the the elixir. You don't want
to drink the poison. You don't want to believe that
you've made it because it's there's an old adage like
strong men create great times, right, great times create weak men.
Weak men create tough times.
Speaker 4: That's what happens. Right.
Speaker 3: You don't want to you don't want to get into
the thick of it and believe that that you're better
than you really are.
Speaker 4: Stay humble, stay hungry.
Speaker 7: But I mean, and I agree for the players, but
as a fan, like it's it's funny because you can
let that friends like listen to Killanne talk and they're like, yeah,
we have to have this mindset for BYU to win
or b why you will not win? We can't believe
until like like obviously preaches like they need to believe.
But it's like, it's really funny because I don't think
other fan bases really do that, Like Utah fans believe
they they've already won the conference even though they're they
run the It's a valid comparison, but it's funny because
BYU's eighteen and two in their last twenty games, Like,
at what point do.
Speaker 4: We say, yeah, b YU was good.
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a lot of people that are going, like,
I mean, you'll hear from national pundits now, is BYU
seven and zero and they beat Utah? Right, everyone needed
to see b why you beat Utah in order to
feel like they've arrived right in order to give them
their flowers, whether it's payte State, whether it's the barstool guys,
whether it's esp Actually ESPN game day was all in,
well not all in, but everyone except for saving everyone's
say for Saban. You know, there's a certain contingent of
Big ten SEC compliant media and propagandas that will state
BYU has not arrived yet. They're not good enough yet.
They don't deserve to be in.
Speaker 4: The top ten or top fifteen.
Speaker 3: They're a nice little program, they're a cute program, but
they don't have what it takes to win in our conference,
the Big Tennessee. It takes time, right, Like, and I
know BYU fans, I hear you. You listen to our show,
but you really really really care about what other people are.
Speaker 4: Saying about you.
Speaker 3: You care more about what they say than what we say.
And that is what it is. We are a people
that want to be accepted, okay in many ways, you know.
Speaker 4: For our our culture, our religion.
Speaker 3: Our way of life, in our football team, in our
basketball team, right and and we want to be normalized
a little bit. We spent a lot of money on
the and I'm a Mormon campaign and meet the Mormons,
and no one saw them except for Mormons, you.
Speaker 4: Know, no one else was going.
Speaker 3: I want to go see that Meet the Mormons film,
so I can learn more about them anyway, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4: So we spent a lot of money. We use a
lot of money on this campaign.
Speaker 5: Will we taught as we taught Sunday school the other day,
and part of the where we're teaching is about like
calling the name by the correct name of the church.
Speaker 4: And I know our twelve year.
Speaker 5: Olds was asking, then why did they do all like
the I'm a Mormon stuff, And I'm like, you know what, folks,
this is one of those answer we didn't have that
revelation yet that we were supposed to go back to
the Church of anyway.
Speaker 3: Anyway, let's also welcome in the six foot eight, three
hundred pound starting tackle for Cougar Sports today we got Martin,
Kelly Martin, how you living, buddy?
Speaker 4: Not too bad? Not too bad?
Speaker 8: Of course, I don't have a dog in the fight
when it comes to Utah or b Yu. I just
worked for the radio stations, so I just kind of
had to sit back and listen my Notre Dame one
this past weekend. And so they beat USC so we
got our little rivalry win in it as well, So
you know, it's kind of interesting in in in the
sense that Byu is eleven, Notre Dame is twelve. So
let's see how the rest of the season goes. Who
knows who's gonna lose one more game? Who knows who's
gonna get the up in the and the and the
kick out of the college ball playoffs. So it's interesting
to see what happens with the Irish and the Corutiars
going down the season.
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and crannies. We've got some sound to get into here
in the nitty gritty with Koalani Shataki. Jared bled Show
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few other special guests joining us on the back end.
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Speaker 3: All right, Kalani Shazak a rest of the media yesterday,
Let's get into his opening statement.
Speaker 1: Excited for next week obviously, you know, had a great
game last weekend, and uh, and now that we've celebrated
that time to move on and get working and for
our next opponent that that's where we're doing that now
and focus on Iowa State. Well coached team with Matt
Campbell who's been there for a while and and honestly,
he's done a great job with his coaches. The play
callers are guys that have been there for for a
decade too, so really good matchup, well coach team. Watching
them on film, they do all the all the all
the little things right and so it's not gonna be
easy going on the road, but I'm looking forward to
the matchup with our with our our team and our program,
there's a lot of really cool things that we can
work on. I feel like the progress of our program
right now. But uh, you know, we know there's gonna
be a lot of attention to details, especially going over
the game from last week and making that transition to
prepping for this week and getting for this next game.
And you know, Iowa States coming off of a bye,
so they've had some extra time to prepare for us.
Speaker 6: So it's not gonna be an easy task.
Speaker 1: But we we knew going into it that this is
the position we would be in, and we we'd have
an opportunity to really improve, and you know, we have
a buy after this, and so we can really put
all our efforts into this and and uh, you know,
do everything we can to give our best effort, make
sure that we improve from last week to this week,
and also make sure that we do our best posit
to get ourselves and be in a good position for success.
Speaker 6: But that's easier said than done.
Speaker 1: I was States really well coached team with a lot
of athletes and great, great players on in all three
phases and so and you know we're going to be
in their home crowd, so that's always going to be
a good challenge.
Speaker 6: But I'm looking forward.
Speaker 1: To I want I want to go as embraced the
opportunity and have fun with them. It's gonna be it's
gonna be a really cool environment. And you kick off
at two thirty there one thirty years, so it's gonna
be a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: Putting statement.
Speaker 3: You know, it looked they're they're getting prepped, they're moving
on to Iowa State. But guess what, we don't have
to We don't have to move on to Iowa State. Here, fans,
you don't have to move on to Iowa State just yet.
I know many of you will and we shall too,
but we're always going to be dabbling in the rivalry
as we always do throughout the year. Now, let's take
a look back though that final fourth down throat to Chase.
Did you look at film, Kalani and now you think
you would have kicked the field goal?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I had to have to review all of it,
but I felt like we made the right decision. And
I feel like, I mean, you kick the field goal,
you go up two touchdowns, that's good, but they still
you know, the whole point of that drive was to
drain their their timeouts, which we did, and ideally you'd
like to get the first down. I don't know if
you need to take a shot to the end zone,
but it would have been nice to you know, they
were in zero coverage and so it would be nice
to get that first down and then just end the
game there. But we knew that we would have to
play defense, but it'd be easier for us to play
defense making them drive the entire field and have them
to score. And then we knew that we we'd have
to have our hands team out and that they would
have to kick a on size kick, and I like
our chances with all of that being said, and you know,
when they're when the team's down, even even the worst
case scenario they get the on size, they still have
to score three points, and more than likely they're going
to use three downs to get four to get the
three points rather than four downs to get the six
because their forces used four downs. And so you're looking
at an opportunity to the possibly kick a field goal
in a hostile environment on a fourth down.
Speaker 6: And I think our defense could could really answer through
the call to all of that. So that's the minds
of going into that.
Speaker 1: I would like to have converted the and and in
the game, but I do like the fact that we've
burned their timeouts and then we're given opportunity to that
they had to, you know, recover an onsite's kick in
order for for them to even have a chance in
the game, and when we took care of it, and
the game.
Speaker 6: Is the way it was.
Speaker 3: So going back and watching that particular play and Colonie
brings up a good point, He's like, well, you didn't
necessarily have to go for a shot in the end zone.
I wanted to go for it we just wanted to
I just ultimately wanted to pick up a first down.
Speaker 4: So then you it begs the question.
Speaker 3: Was that a play call from a rod to take
a shot in the end zone or was it a
choice by Bear Bachmeier. Let's say it's a combination of both,
because you have route combinations. It did look as it
looked like there were vertical routes from all eligible receivers.
They were going for a touchdown. Why would you do
that in that situation? Some people are like, well, when
you have space, you take it, like they had space
to take a sh If you end up picking up
the first down, the field's restricted, you have a true
freshman quarterback, and maybe you don't like, you know, having
to throw into the end zone there and then and
you know you're gonna have to throw into the end zone.
So anyways, maybe I'm making this over complicated, but I
will say this much. Bear needs to begin to trust
Cody Hagen. I love Chase Roberts, and I love Parker Kingston.
Cody Hagen beat everybody all the time that game, Like,
go back and watch that fourth down play. Cody Hagen
cooked smith snoton on that play. And Smith is an
NFL defensive back Cody Hagen got off the line, untouched,
got inside leverage, ran a post, he was behind the
secondary that was in zero coverage, and had him beat.
All you had to do was just to just tooss
it up into the corner of that end zone and
Cody Hagen comes down with it. There's there's no trust
between Bear and Cody right now, and you're seeing that
in the lack of targets.
Speaker 4: Cody Hagen has.
Speaker 3: Been winning ever since he has been on the field,
like and but the ball is just not getting to him.
The ball in the chemistry, the the the the the
chemistry between Bear and Cody just isn't there. And I
appreciate the amount of reps that Bears taking with Chase,
and we know Chase is on the case and he's
he's wide receiver won, but we need somebody else to
step up to take off take a little bit of
stress off of Chase and even Parker, and it's got
to be Cody. We need to get more reps with
Bear and Cody after practice. My opinion, well, I wonder.
Speaker 7: If this goes back to FeSi because before the before
the season started, as Bessie was talking about he doesn't
like to substitute guys, and he likes to keep his
starters in more. And you had jojo In and Parker
and Chase for your guys, and I don't think FESSEI
really expected to play Cody a Ton this year, And
all of a sudden, Jojo goes down, and it feels
like Cody Hagen is always.
Speaker 4: The fourth option.
Speaker 7: It's always Chase Parker, Carson Ryan, and Cody Hagen is
the fourth option and that's the only time the ball
goes his way.
Speaker 4: And so I wonder if there's something where.
Speaker 7: Festi's not sure that Cody's ready to be the second
option on a play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I said, he's in the route combination,
he's there, he's open. Yes, there can be a dictated
play call to a player, there's no doubt. But when
you go back and watch tape over the last three
games and you're seeing Cody create separation and winning either,
we got to have a play college dictated to Cody
Hagen when he's got a good matchup, and mall matchups
are good for Cody Hagen quite honestly, right now, he's
winning all of the matchups because he's so freaking quick.
He's so fast and if you if he's lined up
on the slot, off the line of scrimmage, you can't
get hands on him, and he runs by you every
single time. We're misutilizing his talents.
Speaker 4: Right now. You can win more football games.
Speaker 3: You could score more points by throwing the ball to
Cody Hagen. The only question I would have is, you know,
can does Bear have the arm strength to put it
out there far enough with Cody's elite speed. And I
think he's getting there. I think he's improved his arm
strength even the season. Hopefully he's healthy. He took a
lot of shots from John, Henry, Levanni, de Mooney and
all of those defenders from the you of you all right,
that's your nitty gritty, Kalani states, was that a surprise
to you?
Speaker 4: He liked the He liked it.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep going for it
on fourth down. I don't care about the field goal.
I thought we made the right call. Agree or disagree
with him. Kugarnation chime in, we'll go to break, don't
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Speaker 4: The question that I have.
Speaker 3: Responded, you can celebrate all week, all month, all year
day went to beat your rival. Now us as as
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I am a Blue Goggle former BYU Cougar football player.
Speaker 4: You know what you're getting when you come and listen
to the show.
Speaker 3: I am a constructive critic of my squad, of my team.
But I'm gonna celebrate the doves. You know how we
roll here at Cougar Sports. We're gonna celebrate, have a
good time. We'll continue to talk about how Kyle when
Aham's three and five, okay, three and five versus the Cougars,
when they when DYU and ut are in the same conference.
I dropped that stat on hammer Time yesterday. He's like,
what what when they're in the same conference BYUS five
wins to three losses.
Speaker 5: I did not know that, Hamper Time. They don't want
you to know that number. The FEDS don't want you
to know. The Big twelve doesn't want you to know.
Big j journalism, big time media, they don't want you
to know that number.
Speaker 4: They want you to.
Speaker 5: Think Andrew, that BYU is not good when they play
against Utah. That's the connotation they want you to believe.
But you know what, we will not be suppressed. We
will not fall to the tyranny of big media. We
will believe and we will know that BYU is just
as good and in this case even better than the
University of Utah, even though the FEDS don't.
Speaker 4: Want us to know.
Speaker 3: Ile stated in his post game He's like, no, it
doesn't influence me to come back even know I'm zeroing
three in the last three in coaching in this robbery game,
because we won nine in a row before that. What
he doesn't want you to know is that he only
won them when he was a member of the PAC
twelve and twenty eleven through you know, twenty and twenty.
That's when they had their nine game winning streak and
they dominated due to the resources of.
Speaker 4: The BACK twelve, the power Conference affiliation. It's really easy
to win.
Speaker 3: When you're the goliath, right, when you've got competitive advantages.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, if that's that become really popular, does
that make people look on Kyle Whittingham a little bit
differently like his legacy?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I still think U DAH will
always hold him. I mean, look, I think he's probably
their greatest code. There's no doubt.
Speaker 3: I think soling the legacy it's based off of whether
or not you believe the legacy is built through rivalry,
dominance or through double digit wins, top twenty five rankings,
PAC twelve co championships and rolls Bowl berths. Right, yeah,
and everyone's everyone's going to differ in their in their
opinion I think his legacy was built more so off
of the rivalry dominance that he was in post season play.
But that's my opinion. Utah fans will be the deciders
of that. I'm not the aggregate fan base you know
that that can come.
Speaker 4: To that conclusion. Is it gonna look bad on him
if they?
Speaker 5: And I guess not because lots of greats, whether it's
athletes or coaches like Jordan had the Wizards years. Belichick's
gonna have the unc years. But are we gonna remember
that at the end of Kyle Whittingham's career, he couldn't
beat BYU and he couldn't win in the Big Twelve?
Speaker 4: Like, are we.
Speaker 5: Gonna say, hey, he was really great for a Pac
twelve coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he couldn't even be mediocre in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 5: And I guess they they'll be mediocre this season, but again,
last year they were bad. This year still yet to
be seen. There I think seventh or eighth in the
conference right now, but it's still really tightly contested, so
anything could happen. But it'll just be interesting to me
to see, like when does he decide to retire and if.
Speaker 3: He's retiring after this year, you think so, Yeah, I
just said, I think he's gonna he may fight too
then able to come back, but I don't think he
he Like it's a rebuild next year in the nil
transfer port.
Speaker 4: And kind of a rebuild now.
Speaker 5: Well what I'm saying, I know, but we're realizing now,
like it's kind of a rebuild already to your.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, they had a lot of returning talent, guys,
I mean, are you kidding, Caleb low Mu, Spencer Fanu,
their entire offensive line, that's one of the best offensive
lines of college football.
Speaker 4: But they didn't have a wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Well, they never had wide receivers Steve Smith, baby, They've
never had like even when they had a good wide
receiver last year, like they couldn't really get him the
ball because Cam Risen got injured.
Speaker 4: Then they had a true fresh quarterback.
Speaker 3: That that that offense is built has always been built
to run under Ludwig, even when they brought in Troy Taylor,
like they've gone through. Remember the other portion of of
Kyle Wodenham's legacy is like going through ten freaking OC's
and and kind of ushering them out the door and
saying that you guys are the reason why we didn't win.
I mean, when you have that much turnover at one position,
you know, what's what's the debate here, Like he's blaming
the OCS.
Speaker 4: Can he blame the oc in this rivalry game.
Speaker 3: I don't think you can. I don't think you can
blame Jason Beck. Here, he put up almost five hundred
yards of total offense. He out gained by you. You know,
Devin Dampier threw a pick. There are other turnover came
on special teams. Kyle decided to to ice the kicker,
essentially put him on ice, not let him kick. It
wasn't Jason Beck saying like, no, we want to go
for it on fourth down because we don't trust to
give you. That's Kyle Whittingham trusting the analytics. He can't
blame the oc this year. He's got to blame himself.
And that's that's a tale of the tape right there.
That's an interesting dilemma for him. And he didn't he
didn't throw he didn't throw the offense under the bus
of the post game.
Speaker 4: That's something he did not do.
Speaker 3: Did you realize that in times when he said they
played well, he said they played well.
Speaker 4: Twenty one points is good.
Speaker 3: In fact, he may say we probably should have stopped
him on third and long and not giving up a
twenty two yard QB draw.
Speaker 4: He may be looking over at Morgan be like, hey,
what's up. Why did you get Why did we get
that stop? Does that make sense? Yeah?
Speaker 5: He seemed really disinterested in that postgame interview. To me,
that was the best word to describe it. Where Like
at some points it felt like he was just saying
whatever he had to say to get out of that
interview because he didn't want to, like give controversial answers.
I don't think he really was saying exactly what he
was feeling, because I think he was just I don't
think there was any part of it that they were
gonna lose, So then when they did lose, I think
he just said, I don't want to do this. I
know what everyone's saying, because everyone's now pulling up the
tape from Monday of I didn't want to talk about Bear.
I think he truly was just dish interested during that presser,
and I don't think I think that's why he didn't
say a whole lot of anything other than we trusted analytics.
Speaker 4: The last three, okay, I remember them all.
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one, he cited, they lost the trench battle, okay,
and Charlie Brewer threw a pick to chas Iyu and
in the in Bau didn't give up any turnovers. So
that was twenty twenty one, and he was like, I
would have bet, you know, I would have bet anything
that we were not going to lose the trench war
for a battle in twenty twenty one, but b way
you won it. Twenty twenty four he said, you know,
essentially with Mark Carlin it was stolen from us, like
we should have won that game.
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: He's like, look like it was the turnovers that got us,
but we outgained them, out, outgained them out first down
to them.
Speaker 7: Hey, So I mean there is some truth to that.
We did get ten points off turnovers, sure, and.
Speaker 3: So but those were his postgame comments in those three games, right,
But I mean, going back to it, Kyle Whittingham's legacy
has to be built off the rivalry, in my opinion,
because if you look yet how.
Speaker 4: Utah's performed under him overall.
Speaker 7: Okay, they've got two seasons ever with less than three losses.
That's the thirteen to twenty eighteen and the COVID year.
Since COVID, they have had two, They've had their two championships,
and they're going these are the best teams that Utah
has had under Kyle winning him. Guess what they have
one year since COVID, COVID on under four losses, and
that was when they played five games. BYU's had three,
and so you're looking at it and Kyle's probably I
think if Kyle stays, it's only going to hurt his
legacy because right now he can retire under the facade
of dominance over BYU win.
Speaker 4: In reality it was resource dominance, it five affiliation.
Speaker 7: If he keeps going and people start realizing, hey, BYU
is actually a better program, a better place under the
under equal circumstances, I think that hurts his legacy tremendously.
Speaker 3: Uh So Kyle cited analytics in his post game and
uh yesterday in his press conference, uh Kilani.
Speaker 4: Was asked, let's get to number three here Martin Kelly.
Speaker 3: In the SoundBite, uh So, Kilanie was asked, do you
always go by analytics or does your gut feeling factor
into going forward on fourth down?
Speaker 4: As well well, the book.
Speaker 6: The book.
Speaker 1: Recommended that we kicked the field goal, and I didn't
want to. So that's uh, you know, and and that's
that's I think there's a there's a I do like
looking at analytics, but I also want to have a
gut feel for everything, and there's some human himan element
element to it for myself.
Speaker 3: So the book told Kalani kick the field goal. He
went with his gut. It didn't turn out for me, Yu,
whereas Kyle witting had said, I went with the analytics
and rather than maybe his gut, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think his gut was to continue to go.
Speaker 3: Forward on fourth down because he doesn't like his kickers.
Speaker 4: Or my kicker can't make a field goal exactly, he
doesn't try.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's a lot more likely. And
I think part of his gut feeling was this.
Speaker 3: I think they're both going off their gut here, yeah,
but not rather than the analytics.
Speaker 5: Imagine if Kilani had gone with his gut in the
Arizona game, though, Imagine they go for two and they
don't get it, and then you lose that game. Then
you're reeling off a loss coming into Utah and Utah
takes advantage of that, Like I think, you just have
to be really.
Speaker 4: Smart with the decisions that you're making.
Speaker 5: And again, one of the things that I love about
Kilani is Kialani is not a.
Speaker 4: I have to be right absolutist.
Speaker 5: He understands there sometimes when he doesn't always make the
and I think that's what makes him such a great
coach is he is in charge and he does leadway,
but he also doesn't pretend like he absolutely always knows everything.
He is who he is, and he knows who he is,
but he also understands there's times I want to do
things that, while I want to do them, are not
the right decision, like the Arizona game, which we mentioned,
And I really appreciate him just being open and honest
and say, look, I felt like we should have done this,
the analytics said to do this.
Speaker 4: I did what I wanted. Was it the best decision? Maybe?
Maybe not.
Speaker 5: I really appreciate the honesty and authenticity from Kilane.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, in reality, I think it didn't have to do
with any my honest opinion, I don't think he had
anything to do with analytics.
Speaker 4: I think Kyle was in his head. I think Klanie
was a kicker.
Speaker 7: I think Kilani was in Kyle said the whole game,
and that influenced Kyle's fourth down decisions. He wanted to
just establish absolute dominance over BYU.
Speaker 4: Just established that. He absolutely destroyed them and it him. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think he just hates his kicker personally. I just
don't think he trusts him. Don't think he hates him,
but he just does not trust him whatsoever.
Speaker 5: Maybe he felt bad about the prayer and that's why
he did.
Speaker 3: He trotted the kicker out there to kick a field goal.
His kicker missed it after being essentially iced in the
time out. He's like, no, let's go for it. That
tells you everything you need to know. He's say I
had a change of heart. He does not like his kicker,
I'm telling you right now. And Kugarnation doesn't like the
kicker either, because he was kicking during the prayer. I
feel bad for him. That a young man is getting
like vitriol. It's not even vitriol. It's it's all it is,
is like constructive criticism. Anyone citing that this poor nineteen
year old young man that was kicking during the prayer
doesn't deserve some constructive criticism in.
Speaker 4: A public format. Being a public figure, you're a public figure.
You live by the publicity, and you die by the publicity.
Speaker 3: When you're an athlete, I'm serious, Like you guys are
on the radio right now, what you said and you
like it? Right, Like, Hey, well, I may say something
really funny. I may say something really cool. People may
like me because if I get validation, I may have
a hot take that's vindicated about it. You may say
something stupid and it was like bred Hammer and ap
of Bangquard. They're the most idiotic.
Speaker 4: People on earth. So you live by the publicity, you die.
Speaker 3: Don't act like you're just this poor, you know, person
like they just that can't be criticized publicly.
Speaker 4: Like look, he was kicking during the prayer. Sorry, that's
a foutball.
Speaker 3: It's like me eating food that hasn't been blessed yet
in front of people that are praying. I'm like, I'm
just eating. I'm like, oh, my bad, I didn't know.
Like even if you would have stopped after the like,
oh shoot, like my bad, I didn't know. I was
I couldn't eat before the prayer.
Speaker 4: You know, we all know what etiquette is.
Speaker 3: He could have had AirPods in who knows whatever the
justification is.
Speaker 5: Anyway, I want to say that those extra thirty seconds
of warming up didn't help him enough to get a
kick in the game.
Speaker 7: Well it's funny because he was warming up his kickoffs,
that's the only thing he got to do.
Speaker 4: Once again, I mean, it's look, it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Is it bad karma to be kicking during an opening
prayer and a b whatyu football game? In my opinion,
even whether it was purpotrole or not PERATFL, it's just etiquette.
You have to be well aware of your surroundings and
what's going on, and you're gonna be held accountable, especially
as a public figure. I've been held accountable many times,
and many times I felt like, you know, in an
unfair manner, but I'm still held accountable to it. Because
I called the PAC twelve, you know, the conference that
thinks they're at ten but they're really a seven depending
on their hair and makeup.
Speaker 4: I was called a massage and it's like, how dare.
Speaker 3: You equate this this conference in a rating system and
you're degrading women.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh man, not like I'm not degrading women.
Speaker 3: I swear like I'm just I'm just saying that there's
an entitlement complex. There's an entitlement complex, is what my
social commentary was.
Speaker 4: And they canceled me. They tried to cancel me.
Speaker 3: The liberal media in this market said fire him, and
they called the president, and they called Bristol and they said,
this man deserves to.
Speaker 4: Have all his money, and that the little money that.
Speaker 3: He makes off of sports radio, it's as his side hustle.
He deserves to dye a slow and painful corporate death
in front of all of us picketteers.
Speaker 7: Anyway, how dare you make fun of the pack the
mighty PAC twelve that made the playoffs all of three times.
Speaker 3: That due to their you know, Hubris and Pampus nature
is now dead defunct. So I guess I was right
because no one was willing to pay for him anymore
because they thought they were too good, right. That was
the the person who thinks they're better than they really are.
Speaker 4: And then you mess around and you find out nobody
wanted to date with the PAC twelve.
Speaker 3: No one wanted to date the PAC twelve, no more.
Fox didn't want them. ESPN said hey, this is what
you're worth, and the fact I was like, no, no, no, no,
we're worth fifty million.
Speaker 4: I was right. I was right, your dumb r.
Speaker 5: So now PAC twelve schools had to get in a
long distance relationship with someone they met on FaceTime that
they don't even see because they don't even live on
the same side of the country as then because nobody
else wants to be with it.
Speaker 3: And well, the crazy thing is a lot of it
stemmed from the internal consultants up at the Unversity of Utah.
So like when you really break it all down, the
hubris and the the the.
Speaker 4: Entitled nature, it stems from the you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I hate to say, if that's the truth,
and if you don't like the truth and you don't
want to be set free and you don't want to
be held accountable, then then you're gonna continue to just
be wandering and flailing. This in this conference, right and
in Diasloan Payful Death in the conference. A couple last
things here from Kilanie Uh, let's get into it. Do
you know or do you have any updates on Jojo
Phillips and SIONI Mo, How do.
Speaker 4: You come out of this game? How did you come
out of this game help wise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking forward to those guys coming back soon.
But I don't know if we'll be ready for this week,
but we'll see. I mean, that's a day to day thing.
That's why we announced it on Wednesday, Jay, so you
guys can see what's happened, you know, but a lot
can happen in the next two days. So but yeah,
I mean we're looking for and then in terms of
this last week, I thought we came out. I mean,
guys are banged up, but I think everybody that played
in that game should should play in this next one too.
Speaker 4: Is from Kilani. Yeah, Jay, I mean, let's let's be honest.
Speaker 5: This is now the third week that someone has asked
him in the Monday media availability about health and he
has then referred them to the availability report that comes
out on Wednesday. Now, I think it's fair for him
to ask that question. Yes, but you already had precedence
at twice that he's gonna tell you if you're asking
about health, he's gonna refer you to Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Kilani, He's gonna he's gonna he's gonna stick to the brand.
Speaker 7: Okay, I think I think the availability report is one
of Kalani's favorite things. He doesn't have to answer questions.
It's gonna come out Wednesday.
Speaker 5: Well, he thought he didn't have to answer questions, and
apparently he still does.
Speaker 3: I thought it was funny and tongue in cheek. You
didn't have a third down conversion Kalani till the second half.
How can you find more consistency with your offense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously you have to give defense a
lot of credit. You tel put us in some difficult
positions on the short yardage one. Those are the ones
you like to convert. But it's gonna be a back
and forth game. I feel like, you know, we we
can utilize our punter to be a weapon for us.
He can usually flip the field for us, and and uh,
you know, we punted and got a muff punt from that.
So you just keep playing the game and you don't
worry too much about trying to win it in one play,
and sometimes things go your way, sometimes they don't. I mean,
looking in the game altogether, we held on to the
lead for a long time until we were I think
we're out of the lead. Maybe first a couple of
minutes and that's fine. We got it back and we
were able to hang on to it and add two
scores on it, and you know, I think the rest
is history. I think, I think looking at what we
did in this game, I wouldn't. I mean, considering what
was going on at the time, I felt like we
made some really good decisions according to the game plan.
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, good decisions, he states.
Speaker 3: Any thoughts of there, guys, any commentary to that SoundBite
from Kilane, I just.
Speaker 5: Think that these were two really good defenses. I don't
think either one of these offenses played poorly. I think
they had to earn everything. They went out and got it.
Neither one of these offenses made a ton of mistakes
out of side of Devin dam Piers interception and then
the choice stots to kick the field goal. Like, I
don't think the offense has played poorly. I think you
truly saw an exhibition of elite defenses. So this is
not a concern for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, both the defenses are very good.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, like, the only thing I have add
to that is the one mistake I saw, b what
you make was Parker Kingston dropping that that pass over
the room because he could have been gone. Yes, he
could have been gone. He burned his man, and you
know sometimes that happens in a rivalry game. That's the
only thing that I was like, Wow, we really that's.
Speaker 4: More player execution than it is play calling or anything else.
I think offs. I think a Rod had a great game.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's obviously been a lot of talk about
the end of the first half, but you know, we
drained the clock, Utah didn't.
Speaker 4: Get a score and we would end up up three.
Speaker 3: Couple last things here, why did you feel Klaudia was
important to open up your postgame press conference talking and
giving respect for Kyle Whittingham.
Speaker 1: Well, Kyle, Kyle played at b y U, you know,
and so he's we always have this appreciation for people
that have been through here. Look at all the all
the players that are that are coaching now and from
Sarkisian at Texas and Andy Reid that's at Kansas City
Chiefs and those that are out there. I mean that
that have come through by you Bronco Mendenhall and Utah State,
and it's if you've been part of this family. I
think it's important for us to recognize that. So he
played here, I had a great career here and he's
done a great jobs as a head coach, and so
my thing is he's been a mentor to me, and
so there's a lot of great things I learned from him,
and I just wanted people to know the person that
I respect and love and and maybe they don't understand
him as well as I do. And I think what
I was trying to do is give them an idea
of of of why he's it's important to me and
and why people probably don't know obviously if you guys
don't know him as well as I do. But yeah,
he's been he's super important in my life. And just
want to make sure that he and his family know
I appreciate them everything they've they've done for me, and
and you know, I wouldn't be here for one for them.
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think it's balanced. I think
you're you're only as good as the mentors. Remember, Kline
had great mentorship with Lavelle.
Speaker 4: As his coach.
Speaker 3: He then went to the NFL went to Eastern Arizona
Junior College, where he was under the tutelage of Scott Giles,
a former b YU linebacker, as well as Brian May
former b y U offensive line coach, and you know
they they coached him up to be a coach, and
then he went to SUU and he was under Gary Anderson. Okay,
Gary Anderson and that and that s u U crew,
and I think he actually had a g A spot. Actually,
first he was at g at g A under under
Gary Crowton and then went down to SUU under Gary Anderson,
and then that crew got brought up to the University
of Utah under Kyle winning him. Okay, So he eventually
left Utah to go with Gary Anderson at I believe
Oregon State and then came to BYU. So you look
at the mentorship, you look at the pathway, and the
majority of the mentorship came from Kyle Whittingham. So he
learned the ways of Kyle and he took the good
and maybe did away with whatever bad, but a lot
of it was good. And that's why Kilanie's a great coach,
because he's got a balance of all of those mentors
within him. And one of his mentors is with him
on the staff right now, Gary Anderson, as an analyst
on the defensive side of the ball. We're only as
good as the people we surround ourselves with remember that, okay,
and so always surround yourself with greatness, as Chad Lewis
always admonishes. A couple other soundbites here from Kilane. Last season,
this team lost two games after beating Utah. How do
you stay focused? How do you stay humble? How do
you stay hungry? Knowing that that happened last year?
Speaker 1: Well, to learn from the past, I mean I I
we just had to do some things different. I think
last year there's such an emotional game and then and
everything went into it. It's the same thing like this year.
You know where if you put so much energy into it,
and maybe it was a build up of the of
the game week itself, and then the energy at the
game and being on the road. But then you know,
when we get we when we got back in the buses,
we came back here to Provo and we had I
mean thousands and thousands of the whole student section was
here in our parking lot. We couldn't even get out
of our buses for a couple hours. I mean they
had will fare and crowdsurfing and and so we were
It kind of delayed us, you know, getting getting the
bedding and as much as we enjoyed the energy and
loved it, it kind of delayed us getting our sleep
so we can get to church the next morning, you know.
But but it just you just saw how much people
loved it, and maybe our attention to the detail and
the urgency for the next week didn't go well, But
it might probably have something to do it the week
I I just had the I knew that going into
this game, and that when we saw on the schedule
that we didn't perform at our best against Kansas the
next week, and.
Speaker 6: We need to do things a little bit differently.
Speaker 1: You need to be more deliberate and intentional about what
we want to get done, how we're gonna learn from
this game, how we're gonna put it away, and how
we can't just be I mean, the game's done. We've
got to move on us and Utah, and regardless of
whether it's a victory or defeat, you have to move on.
You have to find ways to get better, and you
have to make sure that you don't have the lasting
effect of a game one week linger onto the next.
And so we're fortunate because we have this game coming
up against Iowa State and then we have a buye,
so we can really look forward to doing everything we
can to use all our energy going into this game,
knowing that there's going to be a little bit of
rest after that. So with that being said, and we're
talking to doctor Maynard sports scientists, and we've devised a
plan to get ourselves in a better position that we
can do on ourselves intentionally. And we can do all
that and still not good enough, but at least we're
going to do our part and make sure that we
we focus on trying to find ways to be at
our best this weekend.
Speaker 3: What's your level of confidence right now, guys that this
team will stay humble, stay hungry, and and be focused
heading into this road this road game versus Iowas State.
What do you make of it? Any any thoughts here?
What's your level of confidence?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: It felt like coming out of this game it was
less physical than last year. I don't feel like the
players are as beat up.
Speaker 3: I think Isaiah Glasger has been kind of beat up
since Colorado and that's just been every week and he's
not completely healthy right but Jack Kelly not completely healthy,
but he played last week.
Speaker 4: Did he play up to his his talent? Level.
Speaker 7: No, but he played well, but you didn't have someone
rolling up on an offensive lineman that took him out
for the rest of the year.
Speaker 4: Right, And So for.
Speaker 7: Me, where I'm going with Iowa State is how injured
are they? Because I think they've got two corners that
are out for the year. I'm not and I don't
remember if that's the time, but I seem to remember
hearing they've got two corners out for the year. So
can can their backups take out Chase? Can they match
up with Chase and Parker? And I think that's where
it comes down to. I feel pretty good honestly about BYU.
But even this year, Bay has been a different team
on the road than they have been at home. We've
still won, but the games have been a lot more dicey.
I think if Arizona and Colorado had been at home,
it's a two score.
Speaker 4: Game, honestly.
Speaker 7: So it's can b why you show up on the
road and and can Iowa State matchup with Parker and Chase?
Speaker 4: Yeah, as far.
Speaker 3: As the line is concerned right now, BYU is not
a favorite. By the way, Iowa stayed a three and
a half point favorite, but the analytics ESPN analytics slightly
favors BYU. This is similar to the Utah game. Guys,
Iowa States five and two right now BYU seven and zero.
Speaker 4: But you know, Vegas is in the betting game.
Speaker 3: And yes, Iowa States on a two game losing streak,
but both of these losses are one score games. Cincinnati
thirty eight thirty and then Colorado twenty four to Selo team.
Speaker 7: They were down really big to Cincinnati. It was that
that scores a lot closer.
Speaker 4: Than that game was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt about it. They got it close.
Though they got to close, they got it respectable. Number eight.
What preparations have you done with the Sports science department
getting ready for the Iowa State game?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, I don't have time to explain
everything that we've done, but we're definitely doing things different
now than we did last week. But we're also doing
things differently now that we did, you know, from last year.
And so there's a lot of things that we could
do that the science shows that if you put yourself
in a better position, whether that's health or getting our
minds right and and and maybe our focus, that all
that stuff we've worked on and uh, you know, I'm
not gonna let everybody know what we're doing, but I
think it could be a competitive advantage for us.
Speaker 3: Secrets klate tell us, so that the whole world knows.
Number nine, how confident are you that bear black markets,
stay humble, stay hungry, stay stoic as the season progresses.
Speaker 1: H He's the exact definition of it. That's why I
mean that you guys have been watching him, have you
seen any of the success go to his head at all?
He is humble, He thinks of others. He's a great teammate,
and so it's great to have him and the coaches
and everybody that's bought into what we're trying to focus on,
which is a team. I mean, he he went, he
did service, you know, on his on his time off,
and so this young man gets it, and we just
need to make sure that we keep putting in a
position where he can he can really thrive in the
humble and stay humble and stay hungry standard that we've said.
And I think I think he'll do really well for
the rest of the team too. But he's he's he
does that automatically. I wish I could take credit for that,
but that's that's already ingrained in him from his family.
Speaker 3: Is the Is there anyone else on the team that
that embodies stay humble, stay hungry more so than than
Bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think so.
Speaker 7: He just he's Bear Bachmeer. This was said yesterday. Bear
Bachmeyer is a Rod. If a Rod, could you know,
make a perfect QB.
Speaker 3: Even the mannerisms off a could create a college football
custom player on n C double A twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7: Even even the mannerisms of Bear is just a Ron.
It's just a Rod younger.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, uh with iowash stay coming off of bye.
What's the biggest challenge in facing a team that has
an extra week to prepare for you Kladi?
Speaker 1: Yeah, We've been in that position when we you've had
some extra time to prepare, so we know it can
be a benefit. You just have to be ready for
a lot of different things. And I think one thing
that we've learned from this year is that we've seen
a lot of different things that maybe doesn't.
Speaker 6: Show up on film uh week to week.
Speaker 1: And so when when a team's given an extra week
to pre to prepare for us, UH, it's probably a
definite that We're not that we're gonna be able to
see things that they haven't put on film yet. So
we just have to anticipate it and see, you know,
some of the things that maybe we might have struggled
with in the in the first seven games.
Speaker 6: That they might try to capitalize on it. We just
have to be ready for all of it.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what the focus will be on us
in all three phases going into this game.
Speaker 3: Well, scouting report here on Iowa State, lots of good
quarterbacks in the league, But what do you make of
rock O Beck and where he ranks in this league?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, really good.
Speaker 1: And you look at what he can do with I
mean he can he can throw the ball, he can
can run too, and just the demand that he has
and the understanding of the offense, and then I mean
he it helps that his background having a father that
played and well coached team. I mean that's and you
you've put a big, physical line in front of him,
and then a run run game with the running backs
that can do a lot of different things, talented tight ends.
These guys are big and they're strong, and it's gonna
be a physical game. We're gonna have to play at
our best and and we're looking forward to it though.
I think this could really get us to another level
of competition. Our guys see it on film and they're
really well coaches. Not a lot of lot not a
lot of uh weaknesses in this team, So I'm looking
forward to it. I just got to make sure that
our guys are ready for.
Speaker 4: This game, and then a little revenge game has to
be on the mind. Kilde. Last time you played Iowa State,
they got you pretty good.
Speaker 3: Since then, this team has lost four games and they've
all been very close. Did something change after that game
specifically versus Iowa State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think looking at it,
we made a lot of mistakes, so I remember correctly,
you know, and didn't really help ourselves with some turnovers
and so, but you know, just being committed to getting
bigger and stronger, especially at the old line and D line,
I felt like there's a commitment to do that. And
what a great experience for our guys though, I mean,
some of our guys that are still playing had that
experience and they know the importance of the off season
and getting bigger and stronger. They did that, and so
we're a different team than two years ago, you know,
And I'd like to think we're a more physical team
than we were, but we'll find out. We'll see what
happens on Saturday and see if our guys are going
to be ready for that. But we challenged our guys
to be physical against Utah, and and felt like defensively
we were physical and a lot of the run game
didn't go through the inside. They didn't go through the middle.
A lot of it was outside runs, big plays on
the flight sweep and things like that, and I'm okay
with it. I think we handled the running backs for
the most part except for the outside stuff. So that's
probably more on us as coaches making sure that we
get the outside the exterior are as solid as we
had the inside, and I thought for the most part
we knocked them back. And then on O line, we
challenged the O line to be physical and that's what
we did. The run run yards or downhill right up
the middle, whether it was LJ running the ball or
or or bear. A lot of it was the inside
run game, and you saw the movement from our line
getting knocked by. It wasn't like that all the time.
But they're they're tough earned yards and l J started.
We wanted to just keep wearing them out. I just
wish we could have converted that last series into a
first down. But I like the way the guys, how
physical they were, and and maybe it doesn't show up
in the stats, but you look at the inside yards
that we got, I feel like we should be really
proud of how physical.
Speaker 6: We were in that game.
Speaker 3: Okay, last he thinks your follows out Southtawalla seems to
get better every single week.
Speaker 4: What have you seen from him?
Speaker 1: We've known that father is going to be a baller
from the beginning. That's why he played as a true freshman.
And we knew that he could that the potential is there,
and it's and the sky's a limit for this young man.
He can do a lot of different things, and he's
got the speed that can cover and he can run.
And he's a unique player to have that type of
size and that length and that speed and that understanding
of of how physical he can be combined with his
covered skills. I mean that he's he's starting to really
come into his own. You know, I'm really proud of
the way he's he's progressed and the way that Jay's
been able to coach him.
Speaker 6: And so I think this, he's doing some really cool things.
Speaker 1: He could play free and strong for us, and you know,
him and Tanner did some really good things. And you
look at with Raider not playing, with Tommy not playing,
those guys had to step up town now Free had
to step up. And then so we feel good about
our depth and and but he's he was more of
a co star than he was a depth guy. We
knew that he's gonna play for us even as a freshman,
and he's doing great things for us now as a sophomore.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then uh, look, hey, Filatow's has completely overachieved.
Speaker 4: In my mind, I knew he was talented. Uh. Like,
he's in the right position now at that strong safety
spot and he's balling out. Uh.
Speaker 3: He turned something on. He flipped the switch. He is
much more physical than he was last year. And that's
what an offseason under Klani and his coaching staff can
do for you. Last thing, Jonathan Cabaya and Lucy tom
Waipeu both played a lot.
Speaker 4: What have you seen from them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean with both Kaban and Nucy, we had
to bring him along, bring them along and and uh,
you know, Cave's going through some injuries and and and
we're still working with with how much how much uh
how many reps who want to keep working with those guys.
But Noosy's he's he's he's ready to as many reps
as we can.
Speaker 6: Put on him.
Speaker 1: And you put him with with the d ns that
we've had being playing. I mean, Lucy's done a great job,
but it's also like Tassilia con been able to do
some pretty cool things and and then you know Orion
has been doing some amazing things at d N. We
we have a bunch of DNS that could play and
outside backer types and that's with Hunter klegg and and
and Body screw Over and and vill Boha, you know,
and and Logan the tweet. So those we have a
bunch of guys that can play a bunch of different things.
And some of those DNS can even play inside. So
I think Kate Pop and Soon had done a great
job with the d line. We challenged them to be physical, physical,
and I thought they did that in this game. Obviously,
I think the chunk yard is that they were able
to get were most of the the outside run and
so we got to get better that you know. I imagine
Iowa State's gonna test us with the outside run and
we got to have an answer when that does happen.
Speaker 6: So but in terms of downhill.
Speaker 1: Line of scrimmage, felt good about us on both sides
and online and D line being able to get some
knock back and control the line of scrimmage for us.
Speaker 3: John saw some reps. He's getting healthier, he's getting stronger.
He should be a pivotal piece for b while you
down the stretch on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 4: And Nucy saw a lot of pts. Well.
Speaker 3: Nuci Tamba Peo and tall Celia Connyer are both going
to be high level defensive ends for BYU in the
foreseeable future.
Speaker 4: Stars.
Speaker 3: If you're looking for sacks kugarnation, those two guys are
gonna be the new mayors of Sac Lake City coming
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