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still reveling in the rivalry game, the win over.

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Speaker 4: The Mighty of the North.

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Speaker 3: One of the questions I'm gonna pose today, I want

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to get Kugarnation involved on this is this Utah team,

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essentially the same team that has been dominating the Pac

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twelve over the last decade. This team is talented. This

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team was five and one Top twenty five. They they

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had the opportunity to have this as they're playing games

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in the Big Twelve Championship just like BYU did. Yes,

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they had to win in and a way setting. But

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this Utah team has plenty of NFL talent, plenty of trafficks,

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plenty of tenure as well. So my question you, is

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this the same Utah team that essentially has been winning

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Pack twelve titles right, going to bowl games, going to

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Rose Bowl games, and then yes, falling a little bit

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short in those Rose Bowl games.

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Speaker 4: I think it is. I think this is the same thame.

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Speaker 3: And what does that say about where BYU's at now

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in the Big twelve? What does that say about where

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BYU's at after being on the outskirts, wandering the desert

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of independence over the last decade plus, and now in

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year three on the same level or even surpassing the

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level of the utes that have been dominating now a

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defunct and dead conference, the BAC twelve. It's it speaks

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to just how accelerated the nature and the progress of

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BYU football has been over the last two and a

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half years since they were included in the power structure

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of college football. It's something to discuss, it's something to debate.

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Speaker 5: How theck are you, buddy? How long are we allowed

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to hold on to this win? Like when we play

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a state, do I have to stop thinking about it?

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Or can I continue to revel in it for months

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and weeks to come?

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Speaker 4: When do I have to let go of this gift?

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Speaker 3: I think with the rivalry game, you you hold on

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to those frag rights until the next outing, until the

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next composition.

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Speaker 4: This is elongated.

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Speaker 3: It's prolonged when it's at the heart of the community,

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when it's at the the crux of this cooper ute

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warfare year and in, year out, and you're.

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Speaker 4: On a three game winning streak, you got bragging rights.

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Speaker 3: Wherever you're roam, you got bragging rights, and you can

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converse about this wherever you are.

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Speaker 4: You can bring it up in casual conversation around the

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water cooler.

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Speaker 3: You can bring it up at church. You can bring

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it up when you're dropping your kids off at take care.

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middle of the now. You want to call up that buddy,

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that's a you fan to beck Hey, just so you know,

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three and oh, Pal, three and O And then you

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hang up and you say, what you should be awake anyways,

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thinking about what I'm thinking about.

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Speaker 4: That's that's what you do.

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Speaker 5: I think I might just tweet it out in the

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middle of January for just no reason, just tweet out

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the score from a game in October, just just because

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Speaker 4: As you should. Look, I'll tell you this much.

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Speaker 3: When I was a player, Hey preparing in two thousand

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and seven for I guess technically my third Holy War,

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but I didn't play in O five. I was a

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red Shirt, so I technically wasn't a part of that,

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I was getting prank calls, okay, in the middle of

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the night from Utah fans that had had seized my number,

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had found out what my number was, and they were

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saying all manner of just derogatory things to me on

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my cell phone. They're saying naughty, in an appropriate and

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honor code violation things to me, and I was appalled.

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Speaker 4: I was aghast. I had never heard such language.

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Speaker 3: I had never been surrounded by such sin, I'm kidding,

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but you know that that's what they did to me.

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a player. So no, I think everything's fair game. I

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think most things are fair game. You can tepee your

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your your your Utah friend's house, okay. And you can

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write messages of go Koog's in the in the in

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the driveway if you want, you know, sprinkle it with

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some water so it sticks. You can tear it up

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into little pieces into their grass and leave it there

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as it wedged down, and it's gonna be a whole

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lot more difficult to, you know, to retract from the grass.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how I forgot to tell this story yesterday,

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but that story that you just told reminded me. I

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was sitting at my home innocently on Friday night and

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class with at BYU didn't I don't know either way.

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Speaker 4: I get a text that says you didn't get this

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Speaker 5: And then I get a phone number sent to me

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and it says a certain quarterback's phone number. I said,

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you're kidding, I said, are you gonna call it. He said, oh, brother,

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I've been calling it. I said, you're kidding. I said,

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did you get through? He said, oh yeah, bro, And

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now I'm leaving voicemails.

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Speaker 4: Now I want it.

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Speaker 5: On the record that as a media member, as a

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human being, I was like, look, I don't have beef

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with Devin. I'm so I did not call the phone number.

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I need that on the record, And I didn't mess

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with Devin. I didn't call him. I didn't send the

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number to anybody. But I was just in shock because

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you hear about these things happening, but I've never been

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a part of it. So when I'm sitting there on

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Speaker 4: Really is going down like this.

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Speaker 5: So I unfortunately like, look, we don't like utah, but

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I don't wish that on anybody. So, however many phone

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calls Devin Dampier got on Friday night, none of them

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were for me, by the way. I apologize and uh,

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but but it certainly was funny to know that it

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Speaker 4: But I didn't even think about that. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We didn't talk about that yesterday, you know, and if

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you want to stop those, I figured out how to

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finally how to stop the calls. Oh really, and it's

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a little bit flamboyant, so work with me here.

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Speaker 4: But I I know I've been prank called.

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Speaker 3: I used to prank call a lot in like middle school,

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high school, really oh yea yeah, prank calls.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. I mean look, I mean we all, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I think a lot of us, like you know,

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we prank called uh friends, family businesses. Like one of

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was like Arnold Schwarzenegger prank calls.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever heard?

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Speaker 3: Those were like different cuts from Arnold Schwarzenegger from movies.

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Speaker 4: Would then call a business.

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Speaker 3: And say hello, how are you yea, yeah, yeah, like

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Like from kindergarten cop Like I mean that's what I

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Speaker 4: So we did it, okay, and we did it.

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Speaker 3: So I learned really quick how to like how to

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prank calling you. Right, So these Utah fans start prank

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calling me and my like, I'm like, oh my gosh,

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what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And then then you turn I know this

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Speaker 4: You turn a little flamboy. You're like, oh yeah, talk

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dirty to me. And they're like, uh, this.

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Speaker 3: Is not getting the reaction, and like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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talk dirty.

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Speaker 4: What is it? What are you gonna do to me?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah?

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Speaker 4: And they just stop.

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Speaker 3: They can't do it, they can't get into that mode,

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and they just hang up and they stop calling.

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Speaker 4: They're like, oh man, it may come one more time,

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and you do it again.

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Speaker 3: They're like all right, I don't know how to engage

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in that. And it just stopped them. It's kind of

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like my shush. The shush always stopped the trash stocking,

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cause you can't really do anything. You get the shush

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on the gridiron on the phone call, it stopped it.

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I didn't get any more calls after eleven thirty. I

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kind of put a kibosh on it right away. No

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more calls in two thousand and seven. So hey, word

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the prank call, if you're willing to go that route,

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of night with friends and family members, if you so

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choose right, you can brag all day every day about this.

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Speaker 3: Let's welcome in Andrew Peterson, our producer today. He's the

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Speaker 4: How you live it Well, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 7: I'm learning what it's like as a backup to be

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thrust into the starting role. This week's availability report, Ronald Weaver,

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the third was listed as out day and so I

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moments where I'm like, there's a reason I'm not the starter.

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through the refining five. We're starting to figure it out,

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you know, but BYU seven and zero. And it's funny

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because last year, after win, we asked ourselves, is B

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: This year, after every win, we asked ourselves, is B

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we start believing that B why you could actually win

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this conference?

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Speaker 4: Here's the trick.

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Speaker 5: You don't because as soon as you do, then you

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find out that you're bad.

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Speaker 4: Well, Kalani mentioned it pride cycle.

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Speaker 3: Right, he doesn't want to, you know he He's mentioned

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pride and I talked about pride cycle all the time.

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The humbles, stay humble, stay hungry mantra. It's an imperative

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for any program.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I think Nick Saban talks about rat poison. You don't

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want to drink the the the elixir. You don't want

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to drink the poison. You don't want to believe that

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you've made it because it's there's an old adage like

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strong men create great times, right, great times create weak men.

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Speaker 4: That's what happens. Right.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to you don't want to get into

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the thick of it and believe that that you're better

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than you really are.

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Speaker 4: Stay humble, stay hungry.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, and I agree for the players, but

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as a fan, like it's it's funny because you can

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let that friends like listen to Killanne talk and they're like, yeah,

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we have to have this mindset for BYU to win

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or b why you will not win? We can't believe

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until like like obviously preaches like they need to believe.

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But it's like, it's really funny because I don't think

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other fan bases really do that, Like Utah fans believe

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they they've already won the conference even though they're they

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run the It's a valid comparison, but it's funny because

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BYU's eighteen and two in their last twenty games, Like,

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at what point do.

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Speaker 4: We say, yeah, b YU was good.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a lot of people that are going, like,

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I mean, you'll hear from national pundits now, is BYU

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seven and zero and they beat Utah? Right, everyone needed

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to see b why you beat Utah in order to

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feel like they've arrived right in order to give them

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their flowers, whether it's payte State, whether it's the barstool guys,

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whether it's esp Actually ESPN game day was all in,

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well not all in, but everyone except for saving everyone's

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say for Saban. You know, there's a certain contingent of

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Big ten SEC compliant media and propagandas that will state

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BYU has not arrived yet. They're not good enough yet.

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They don't deserve to be in.

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Speaker 4: The top ten or top fifteen.

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Speaker 3: They're a nice little program, they're a cute program, but

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they don't have what it takes to win in our conference,

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the Big Tennessee. It takes time, right, Like, and I

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know BYU fans, I hear you. You listen to our show,

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but you really really really care about what other people are.

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Speaker 4: Saying about you.

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Speaker 3: You care more about what they say than what we say.

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And that is what it is. We are a people

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that want to be accepted, okay in many ways, you know.

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Speaker 4: For our our culture, our religion.

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Speaker 3: Our way of life, in our football team, in our

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basketball team, right and and we want to be normalized

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a little bit. We spent a lot of money on

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the and I'm a Mormon campaign and meet the Mormons,

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and no one saw them except for Mormons, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, no one else was going.

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Speaker 3: I want to go see that Meet the Mormons film,

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so I can learn more about them anyway, you know

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what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So we spent a lot of money. We use a

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lot of money on this campaign.

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Speaker 5: Will we taught as we taught Sunday school the other day,

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and part of the where we're teaching is about like

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calling the name by the correct name of the church.

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Speaker 4: And I know our twelve year.

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Speaker 5: Olds was asking, then why did they do all like

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the I'm a Mormon stuff, And I'm like, you know what, folks,

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this is one of those answer we didn't have that

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revelation yet that we were supposed to go back to

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the Church of anyway.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, let's also welcome in the six foot eight, three

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hundred pound starting tackle for Cougar Sports today we got Martin,

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Kelly Martin, how you living, buddy?

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Speaker 4: Not too bad? Not too bad?

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Speaker 8: Of course, I don't have a dog in the fight

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when it comes to Utah or b Yu. I just

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worked for the radio stations, so I just kind of

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had to sit back and listen my Notre Dame one

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this past weekend. And so they beat USC so we

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got our little rivalry win in it as well, So

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you know, it's kind of interesting in in in the

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sense that Byu is eleven, Notre Dame is twelve. So

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let's see how the rest of the season goes. Who

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knows who's gonna lose one more game? Who knows who's

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gonna get the up in the and the and the

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kick out of the college ball playoffs. So it's interesting

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to see what happens with the Irish and the Corutiars

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Speaker 3: Let's go, can't wait to delf into all the knooks

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Speaker 3: All right, Kalani Shazak a rest of the media yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Excited for next week obviously, you know, had a great

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game last weekend, and uh, and now that we've celebrated

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that time to move on and get working and for

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our next opponent that that's where we're doing that now

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and focus on Iowa State. Well coached team with Matt

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Campbell who's been there for a while and and honestly,

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he's done a great job with his coaches. The play

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callers are guys that have been there for for a

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decade too, so really good matchup, well coach team. Watching

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them on film, they do all the all the all

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the little things right and so it's not gonna be

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easy going on the road, but I'm looking forward to

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the matchup with our with our our team and our program,

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there's a lot of really cool things that we can

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work on. I feel like the progress of our program

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right now. But uh, you know, we know there's gonna

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be a lot of attention to details, especially going over

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the game from last week and making that transition to

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prepping for this week and getting for this next game.

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And you know, Iowa States coming off of a bye,

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so they've had some extra time to prepare for us.

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Speaker 6: So it's not gonna be an easy task.

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Speaker 1: But we we knew going into it that this is

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the position we would be in, and we we'd have

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an opportunity to really improve, and you know, we have

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a buy after this, and so we can really put

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all our efforts into this and and uh, you know,

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do everything we can to give our best effort, make

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sure that we improve from last week to this week,

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and also make sure that we do our best posit

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to get ourselves and be in a good position for success.

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Speaker 6: But that's easier said than done.

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Speaker 1: I was States really well coached team with a lot

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of athletes and great, great players on in all three

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phases and so and you know we're going to be

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in their home crowd, so that's always going to be

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a good challenge.

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Speaker 6: But I'm looking forward.

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Speaker 1: To I want I want to go as embraced the

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opportunity and have fun with them. It's gonna be it's

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gonna be a really cool environment. And you kick off

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at two thirty there one thirty years, so it's gonna

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be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: Putting statement.

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Speaker 3: You know, it looked they're they're getting prepped, they're moving

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on to Iowa State. But guess what, we don't have

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to We don't have to move on to Iowa State. Here, fans,

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you don't have to move on to Iowa State just yet.

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I know many of you will and we shall too,

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but we're always going to be dabbling in the rivalry

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as we always do throughout the year. Now, let's take

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a look back though that final fourth down throat to Chase.

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Did you look at film, Kalani and now you think

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you would have kicked the field goal?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean I had to have to review all of it,

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but I felt like we made the right decision. And

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I feel like, I mean, you kick the field goal,

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you go up two touchdowns, that's good, but they still

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you know, the whole point of that drive was to

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drain their their timeouts, which we did, and ideally you'd

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like to get the first down. I don't know if

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you need to take a shot to the end zone,

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but it would have been nice to you know, they

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were in zero coverage and so it would be nice

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to get that first down and then just end the

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game there. But we knew that we would have to

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play defense, but it'd be easier for us to play

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defense making them drive the entire field and have them

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to score. And then we knew that we we'd have

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to have our hands team out and that they would

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have to kick a on size kick, and I like

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our chances with all of that being said, and you know,

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when they're when the team's down, even even the worst

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case scenario they get the on size, they still have

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to score three points, and more than likely they're going

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to use three downs to get four to get the

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three points rather than four downs to get the six

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because their forces used four downs. And so you're looking

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at an opportunity to the possibly kick a field goal

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in a hostile environment on a fourth down.

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Speaker 6: And I think our defense could could really answer through

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the call to all of that. So that's the minds

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Speaker 1: I would like to have converted the and and in

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the game, but I do like the fact that we've

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burned their timeouts and then we're given opportunity to that

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they had to, you know, recover an onsite's kick in

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order for for them to even have a chance in

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the game, and when we took care of it, and

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the game.

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Speaker 6: Is the way it was.

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Speaker 3: So going back and watching that particular play and Colonie

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brings up a good point, He's like, well, you didn't

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necessarily have to go for a shot in the end zone.

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I wanted to go for it we just wanted to

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I just ultimately wanted to pick up a first down.

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Speaker 4: So then you it begs the question.

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Speaker 3: Was that a play call from a rod to take

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a shot in the end zone or was it a

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choice by Bear Bachmeier. Let's say it's a combination of both,

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because you have route combinations. It did look as it

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looked like there were vertical routes from all eligible receivers.

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They were going for a touchdown. Why would you do

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that in that situation? Some people are like, well, when

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you have space, you take it, like they had space

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to take a sh If you end up picking up

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the first down, the field's restricted, you have a true

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freshman quarterback, and maybe you don't like, you know, having

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to throw into the end zone there and then and

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you know you're gonna have to throw into the end zone.

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So anyways, maybe I'm making this over complicated, but I

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will say this much. Bear needs to begin to trust

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Cody Hagen. I love Chase Roberts, and I love Parker Kingston.

480
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Cody Hagen beat everybody all the time that game, Like,

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go back and watch that fourth down play. Cody Hagen

482
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cooked smith snoton on that play. And Smith is an

483
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NFL defensive back Cody Hagen got off the line, untouched,

484
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got inside leverage, ran a post, he was behind the

485
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secondary that was in zero coverage, and had him beat.

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All you had to do was just to just tooss

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it up into the corner of that end zone and

488
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Cody Hagen comes down with it. There's there's no trust

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between Bear and Cody right now, and you're seeing that

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in the lack of targets.

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Speaker 4: Cody Hagen has.

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Speaker 3: Been winning ever since he has been on the field,

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like and but the ball is just not getting to him.

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The ball in the chemistry, the the the the the

495
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chemistry between Bear and Cody just isn't there. And I

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appreciate the amount of reps that Bears taking with Chase,

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and we know Chase is on the case and he's

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he's wide receiver won, but we need somebody else to

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step up to take off take a little bit of

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stress off of Chase and even Parker, and it's got

501
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to be Cody. We need to get more reps with

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Bear and Cody after practice. My opinion, well, I wonder.

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Speaker 7: If this goes back to FeSi because before the before

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the season started, as Bessie was talking about he doesn't

505
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like to substitute guys, and he likes to keep his

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starters in more. And you had jojo In and Parker

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and Chase for your guys, and I don't think FESSEI

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really expected to play Cody a Ton this year, And

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all of a sudden, Jojo goes down, and it feels

510
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like Cody Hagen is always.

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Speaker 4: The fourth option.

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Speaker 7: It's always Chase Parker, Carson Ryan, and Cody Hagen is

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the fourth option and that's the only time the ball

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goes his way.

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Speaker 4: And so I wonder if there's something where.

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Speaker 7: Festi's not sure that Cody's ready to be the second

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option on a play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I said, he's in the route combination,

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he's there, he's open. Yes, there can be a dictated

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play call to a player, there's no doubt. But when

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you go back and watch tape over the last three

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games and you're seeing Cody create separation and winning either,

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we got to have a play college dictated to Cody

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Hagen when he's got a good matchup, and mall matchups

525
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are good for Cody Hagen quite honestly, right now, he's

526
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winning all of the matchups because he's so freaking quick.

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He's so fast and if you if he's lined up

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on the slot, off the line of scrimmage, you can't

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get hands on him, and he runs by you every

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single time. We're misutilizing his talents.

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Speaker 4: Right now. You can win more football games.

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Speaker 3: You could score more points by throwing the ball to

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Cody Hagen. The only question I would have is, you know,

534
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can does Bear have the arm strength to put it

535
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out there far enough with Cody's elite speed. And I

536
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think he's getting there. I think he's improved his arm

537
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strength even the season. Hopefully he's healthy. He took a

538
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lot of shots from John, Henry, Levanni, de Mooney and

539
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all of those defenders from the you of you all right,

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that's your nitty gritty, Kalani states, was that a surprise

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to you?

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Speaker 4: He liked the He liked it.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep going for it

544
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on fourth down. I don't care about the field goal.

545
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I thought we made the right call. Agree or disagree

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with him. Kugarnation chime in, we'll go to break, don't

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go anywhere. Getting into more sound from Killane from yesterday.

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Speaker 4: But I gott always bringing.

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Speaker 3: The Hammer Hammerton show as well as Andrew Peterson by

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by my side height as Brett hammer Ash.

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Speaker 4: The question that I have.

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Speaker 3: Responded, you can celebrate all week, all month, all year

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day went to beat your rival. Now us as as

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fans as media members, right they cover the Cougars like

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I am a Blue Goggle former BYU Cougar football player.

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Speaker 4: You know what you're getting when you come and listen

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to the show.

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Speaker 3: I am a constructive critic of my squad, of my team.

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But I'm gonna celebrate the doves. You know how we

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roll here at Cougar Sports. We're gonna celebrate, have a

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good time. We'll continue to talk about how Kyle when

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Aham's three and five, okay, three and five versus the Cougars,

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when they when DYU and ut are in the same conference.

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I dropped that stat on hammer Time yesterday. He's like,

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what what when they're in the same conference BYUS five

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wins to three losses.

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Speaker 5: I did not know that, Hamper Time. They don't want

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you to know that number. The FEDS don't want you

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to know. The Big twelve doesn't want you to know.

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Big j journalism, big time media, they don't want you

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to know that number.

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Speaker 4: They want you to.

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Speaker 5: Think Andrew, that BYU is not good when they play

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against Utah. That's the connotation they want you to believe.

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But you know what, we will not be suppressed. We

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will not fall to the tyranny of big media. We

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will believe and we will know that BYU is just

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as good and in this case even better than the

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University of Utah, even though the FEDS don't.

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Speaker 4: Want us to know.

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Speaker 3: Ile stated in his post game He's like, no, it

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doesn't influence me to come back even know I'm zeroing

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three in the last three in coaching in this robbery game,

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because we won nine in a row before that. What

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he doesn't want you to know is that he only

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won them when he was a member of the PAC

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twelve and twenty eleven through you know, twenty and twenty.

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That's when they had their nine game winning streak and

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they dominated due to the resources of.

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Speaker 4: The BACK twelve, the power Conference affiliation. It's really easy

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to win.

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Speaker 3: When you're the goliath, right, when you've got competitive advantages.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, if that's that become really popular, does

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that make people look on Kyle Whittingham a little bit

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differently like his legacy?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I still think U DAH will

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always hold him. I mean, look, I think he's probably

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their greatest code. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 3: I think soling the legacy it's based off of whether

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or not you believe the legacy is built through rivalry,

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dominance or through double digit wins, top twenty five rankings,

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PAC twelve co championships and rolls Bowl berths. Right, yeah,

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and everyone's everyone's going to differ in their in their

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opinion I think his legacy was built more so off

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of the rivalry dominance that he was in post season play.

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But that's my opinion. Utah fans will be the deciders

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of that. I'm not the aggregate fan base you know

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that that can come.

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Speaker 4: To that conclusion. Is it gonna look bad on him

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if they?

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Speaker 5: And I guess not because lots of greats, whether it's

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athletes or coaches like Jordan had the Wizards years. Belichick's

648
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gonna have the unc years. But are we gonna remember

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that at the end of Kyle Whittingham's career, he couldn't

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beat BYU and he couldn't win in the Big Twelve?

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Speaker 4: Like, are we.

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Speaker 5: Gonna say, hey, he was really great for a Pac

653
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twelve coach.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he couldn't even be mediocre in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 5: And I guess they they'll be mediocre this season, but again,

656
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last year they were bad. This year still yet to

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be seen. There I think seventh or eighth in the

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conference right now, but it's still really tightly contested, so

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anything could happen. But it'll just be interesting to me

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to see, like when does he decide to retire and if.

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Speaker 3: He's retiring after this year, you think so, Yeah, I

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just said, I think he's gonna he may fight too

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then able to come back, but I don't think he

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he Like it's a rebuild next year in the nil

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transfer port.

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Speaker 4: And kind of a rebuild now.

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Speaker 5: Well what I'm saying, I know, but we're realizing now,

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like it's kind of a rebuild already to your.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, they had a lot of returning talent, guys,

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I mean, are you kidding, Caleb low Mu, Spencer Fanu,

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their entire offensive line, that's one of the best offensive

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lines of college football.

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Speaker 4: But they didn't have a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Well, they never had wide receivers Steve Smith, baby, They've

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never had like even when they had a good wide

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receiver last year, like they couldn't really get him the

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ball because Cam Risen got injured.

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Speaker 4: Then they had a true fresh quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That that that offense is built has always been built

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to run under Ludwig, even when they brought in Troy Taylor,

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like they've gone through. Remember the other portion of of

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Kyle Wodenham's legacy is like going through ten freaking OC's

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and and kind of ushering them out the door and

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saying that you guys are the reason why we didn't win.

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I mean, when you have that much turnover at one position,

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you know, what's what's the debate here, Like he's blaming

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the OCS.

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Speaker 4: Can he blame the oc in this rivalry game.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can. I don't think you can

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blame Jason Beck. Here, he put up almost five hundred

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yards of total offense. He out gained by you. You know,

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Devin Dampier threw a pick. There are other turnover came

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on special teams. Kyle decided to to ice the kicker,

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essentially put him on ice, not let him kick. It

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wasn't Jason Beck saying like, no, we want to go

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for it on fourth down because we don't trust to

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give you. That's Kyle Whittingham trusting the analytics. He can't

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blame the oc this year. He's got to blame himself.

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And that's that's a tale of the tape right there.

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That's an interesting dilemma for him. And he didn't he

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didn't throw he didn't throw the offense under the bus

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of the post game.

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Speaker 4: That's something he did not do.

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Speaker 3: Did you realize that in times when he said they

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played well, he said they played well.

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Speaker 4: Twenty one points is good.

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Speaker 3: In fact, he may say we probably should have stopped

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him on third and long and not giving up a

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twenty two yard QB draw.

710
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Speaker 4: He may be looking over at Morgan be like, hey,

711
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:25,360
what's up. Why did you get Why did we get

712
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,199
that stop? Does that make sense? Yeah?

713
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 5: He seemed really disinterested in that postgame interview. To me,

714
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,880
that was the best word to describe it. Where Like

715
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,360
at some points it felt like he was just saying

716
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,880
whatever he had to say to get out of that

717
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,840
interview because he didn't want to, like give controversial answers.

718
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:44,199
I don't think he really was saying exactly what he

719
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,679
was feeling, because I think he was just I don't

720
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:48,159
think there was any part of it that they were

721
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:50,679
gonna lose, So then when they did lose, I think

722
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,159
he just said, I don't want to do this. I

723
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,480
know what everyone's saying, because everyone's now pulling up the

724
00:34:55,519 --> 00:34:57,760
tape from Monday of I didn't want to talk about Bear.

725
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:02,039
I think he truly was just dish interested during that presser,

726
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:03,840
and I don't think I think that's why he didn't

727
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,639
say a whole lot of anything other than we trusted analytics.

728
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: The last three, okay, I remember them all.

729
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one, he cited, they lost the trench battle, okay,

730
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,440
and Charlie Brewer threw a pick to chas Iyu and

731
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:21,360
in the in Bau didn't give up any turnovers. So

732
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,239
that was twenty twenty one, and he was like, I

733
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,400
would have bet, you know, I would have bet anything

734
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,920
that we were not going to lose the trench war

735
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,559
for a battle in twenty twenty one, but b way

736
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:30,599
you won it. Twenty twenty four he said, you know,

737
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,440
essentially with Mark Carlin it was stolen from us, like

738
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,559
we should have won that game.

739
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five.

740
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: He's like, look like it was the turnovers that got us,

741
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,480
but we outgained them, out, outgained them out first down

742
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:42,760
to them.

743
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 7: Hey, So I mean there is some truth to that.

744
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,519
We did get ten points off turnovers, sure, and.

745
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:51,559
Speaker 3: So but those were his postgame comments in those three games, right,

746
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:55,599
But I mean, going back to it, Kyle Whittingham's legacy

747
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,639
has to be built off the rivalry, in my opinion,

748
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,880
because if you look yet how.

749
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: Utah's performed under him overall.

750
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:08,519
Speaker 7: Okay, they've got two seasons ever with less than three losses.

751
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:12,079
That's the thirteen to twenty eighteen and the COVID year.

752
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:16,000
Since COVID, they have had two, They've had their two championships,

753
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:17,960
and they're going these are the best teams that Utah

754
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,159
has had under Kyle winning him. Guess what they have

755
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,679
one year since COVID, COVID on under four losses, and

756
00:36:26,679 --> 00:36:29,360
that was when they played five games. BYU's had three,

757
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,639
and so you're looking at it and Kyle's probably I

758
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:38,559
think if Kyle stays, it's only going to hurt his

759
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:43,519
legacy because right now he can retire under the facade

760
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:45,639
of dominance over BYU win.

761
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: In reality it was resource dominance, it five affiliation.

762
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:56,559
Speaker 7: If he keeps going and people start realizing, hey, BYU

763
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,280
is actually a better program, a better place under the

764
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:06,199
under equal circumstances, I think that hurts his legacy tremendously.

765
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:11,119
Speaker 3: Uh So Kyle cited analytics in his post game and

766
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,639
uh yesterday in his press conference, uh Kilani.

767
00:37:15,679 --> 00:37:18,159
Speaker 4: Was asked, let's get to number three here Martin Kelly.

768
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:23,519
Speaker 3: In the SoundBite, uh So, Kilanie was asked, do you

769
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:26,679
always go by analytics or does your gut feeling factor

770
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,280
into going forward on fourth down?

771
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,199
Speaker 4: As well well, the book.

772
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:32,679
Speaker 6: The book.

773
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: Recommended that we kicked the field goal, and I didn't

774
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,679
want to. So that's uh, you know, and and that's

775
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,440
that's I think there's a there's a I do like

776
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:47,400
looking at analytics, but I also want to have a

777
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,800
gut feel for everything, and there's some human himan element

778
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,119
element to it for myself.

779
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: So the book told Kalani kick the field goal. He

780
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:02,800
went with his gut. It didn't turn out for me, Yu,

781
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:06,960
whereas Kyle witting had said, I went with the analytics

782
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,079
and rather than maybe his gut, I don't know.

783
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: I think his gut was to continue to go.

784
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:19,599
Speaker 3: Forward on fourth down because he doesn't like his kickers.

785
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: Or my kicker can't make a field goal exactly, he

786
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:20,480
doesn't try.

787
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,119
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's a lot more likely. And

788
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,400
I think part of his gut feeling was this.

789
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: I think they're both going off their gut here, yeah,

790
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,960
but not rather than the analytics.

791
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:33,159
Speaker 5: Imagine if Kilani had gone with his gut in the

792
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:36,599
Arizona game, though, Imagine they go for two and they

793
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,039
don't get it, and then you lose that game. Then

794
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:41,559
you're reeling off a loss coming into Utah and Utah

795
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:45,360
takes advantage of that, Like I think, you just have

796
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,400
to be really.

797
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 4: Smart with the decisions that you're making.

798
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,679
Speaker 5: And again, one of the things that I love about

799
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,119
Kilani is Kialani is not a.

800
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: I have to be right absolutist.

801
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 5: He understands there sometimes when he doesn't always make the

802
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,239
and I think that's what makes him such a great

803
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,000
coach is he is in charge and he does leadway,

804
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:09,000
but he also doesn't pretend like he absolutely always knows everything.

805
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,320
He is who he is, and he knows who he is,

806
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,840
but he also understands there's times I want to do

807
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,360
things that, while I want to do them, are not

808
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,320
the right decision, like the Arizona game, which we mentioned,

809
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,559
And I really appreciate him just being open and honest

810
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:24,719
and say, look, I felt like we should have done this,

811
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:26,239
the analytics said to do this.

812
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 4: I did what I wanted. Was it the best decision? Maybe?

813
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:29,679
Maybe not.

814
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,119
Speaker 5: I really appreciate the honesty and authenticity from Kilane.

815
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:33,599
Speaker 6: Yeah.

816
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 7: Well, in reality, I think it didn't have to do

817
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,079
with any my honest opinion, I don't think he had

818
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:40,400
anything to do with analytics.

819
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,519
Speaker 4: I think Kyle was in his head. I think Klanie

820
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:44,199
was a kicker.

821
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,519
Speaker 7: I think Kilani was in Kyle said the whole game,

822
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:52,119
and that influenced Kyle's fourth down decisions. He wanted to

823
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,000
just establish absolute dominance over BYU.

824
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 4: Just established that. He absolutely destroyed them and it him. Yeah,

825
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,000
I don't know.

826
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 3: I think he just hates his kicker personally. I just

827
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,480
don't think he trusts him. Don't think he hates him,

828
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:06,480
but he just does not trust him whatsoever.

829
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 5: Maybe he felt bad about the prayer and that's why

830
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,119
he did.

831
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,119
Speaker 3: He trotted the kicker out there to kick a field goal.

832
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:16,960
His kicker missed it after being essentially iced in the

833
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,079
time out. He's like, no, let's go for it. That

834
00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:20,960
tells you everything you need to know. He's say I

835
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,039
had a change of heart. He does not like his kicker,

836
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,719
I'm telling you right now. And Kugarnation doesn't like the

837
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,000
kicker either, because he was kicking during the prayer. I

838
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,280
feel bad for him. That a young man is getting

839
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,239
like vitriol. It's not even vitriol. It's it's all it is,

840
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:39,840
is like constructive criticism. Anyone citing that this poor nineteen

841
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,559
year old young man that was kicking during the prayer

842
00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:46,719
doesn't deserve some constructive criticism in.

843
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 4: A public format. Being a public figure, you're a public figure.

844
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,880
You live by the publicity, and you die by the publicity.

845
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: When you're an athlete, I'm serious, Like you guys are

846
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,400
on the radio right now, what you said and you

847
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:03,239
like it? Right, Like, Hey, well, I may say something

848
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,239
really funny. I may say something really cool. People may

849
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,119
like me because if I get validation, I may have

850
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,480
a hot take that's vindicated about it. You may say

851
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,760
something stupid and it was like bred Hammer and ap

852
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,599
of Bangquard. They're the most idiotic.

853
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 4: People on earth. So you live by the publicity, you die.

854
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 3: Don't act like you're just this poor, you know, person

855
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,760
like they just that can't be criticized publicly.

856
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 4: Like look, he was kicking during the prayer. Sorry, that's

857
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,440
a foutball.

858
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:38,519
Speaker 3: It's like me eating food that hasn't been blessed yet

859
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:40,719
in front of people that are praying. I'm like, I'm

860
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,599
just eating. I'm like, oh, my bad, I didn't know.

861
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:45,320
Like even if you would have stopped after the like,

862
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,440
oh shoot, like my bad, I didn't know. I was

863
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:50,920
I couldn't eat before the prayer.

864
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 4: You know, we all know what etiquette is.

865
00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: He could have had AirPods in who knows whatever the

866
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,639
justification is.

867
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 5: Anyway, I want to say that those extra thirty seconds

868
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,280
of warming up didn't help him enough to get a

869
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:03,880
kick in the game.

870
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,639
Speaker 7: Well it's funny because he was warming up his kickoffs,

871
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,960
that's the only thing he got to do.

872
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 4: Once again, I mean, it's look, it is what it is.

873
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,679
Speaker 3: Is it bad karma to be kicking during an opening

874
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,000
prayer and a b whatyu football game? In my opinion,

875
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,320
even whether it was purpotrole or not PERATFL, it's just etiquette.

876
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:31,159
You have to be well aware of your surroundings and

877
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,280
what's going on, and you're gonna be held accountable, especially

878
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,159
as a public figure. I've been held accountable many times,

879
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,239
and many times I felt like, you know, in an

880
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,559
unfair manner, but I'm still held accountable to it. Because

881
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:47,760
I called the PAC twelve, you know, the conference that

882
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,480
thinks they're at ten but they're really a seven depending

883
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:52,639
on their hair and makeup.

884
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:55,679
Speaker 4: I was called a massage and it's like, how dare.

885
00:42:55,559 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: You equate this this conference in a rating system and

886
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,000
you're degrading women.

887
00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh man, not like I'm not degrading women.

888
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: I swear like I'm just I'm just saying that there's

889
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,599
an entitlement complex. There's an entitlement complex, is what my

890
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:13,079
social commentary was.

891
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 4: And they canceled me. They tried to cancel me.

892
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,039
Speaker 3: The liberal media in this market said fire him, and

893
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:22,079
they called the president, and they called Bristol and they said,

894
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,519
this man deserves to.

895
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:27,159
Speaker 4: Have all his money, and that the little money that.

896
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: He makes off of sports radio, it's as his side hustle.

897
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,480
He deserves to dye a slow and painful corporate death

898
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,840
in front of all of us picketteers.

899
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 7: Anyway, how dare you make fun of the pack the

900
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:45,239
mighty PAC twelve that made the playoffs all of three times.

901
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 3: That due to their you know, Hubris and Pampus nature

902
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,119
is now dead defunct. So I guess I was right

903
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:53,480
because no one was willing to pay for him anymore

904
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,679
because they thought they were too good, right. That was

905
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,719
the the person who thinks they're better than they really are.

906
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 4: And then you mess around and you find out nobody

907
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,559
wanted to date with the PAC twelve.

908
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:06,639
Speaker 3: No one wanted to date the PAC twelve, no more.

909
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:09,320
Fox didn't want them. ESPN said hey, this is what

910
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,719
you're worth, and the fact I was like, no, no, no, no,

911
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,119
we're worth fifty million.

912
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,519
Speaker 4: I was right. I was right, your dumb r.

913
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:18,599
Speaker 5: So now PAC twelve schools had to get in a

914
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,360
long distance relationship with someone they met on FaceTime that

915
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,800
they don't even see because they don't even live on

916
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,000
the same side of the country as then because nobody

917
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,840
else wants to be with it.

918
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,079
Speaker 3: And well, the crazy thing is a lot of it

919
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:32,639
stemmed from the internal consultants up at the Unversity of Utah.

920
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,880
So like when you really break it all down, the

921
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,599
hubris and the the the.

922
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,679
Speaker 4: Entitled nature, it stems from the you.

923
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,079
Speaker 3: I mean, I hate to say, if that's the truth,

924
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:45,840
and if you don't like the truth and you don't

925
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,400
want to be set free and you don't want to

926
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:53,480
be held accountable, then then you're gonna continue to just

927
00:44:54,119 --> 00:45:00,039
be wandering and flailing. This in this conference, right and

928
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:04,079
in Diasloan Payful Death in the conference. A couple last

929
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:07,119
things here from Kilanie Uh, let's get into it. Do

930
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:09,920
you know or do you have any updates on Jojo

931
00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:12,079
Phillips and SIONI Mo, How do.

932
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: You come out of this game? How did you come

933
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,840
out of this game help wise.

934
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking forward to those guys coming back soon.

935
00:45:18,039 --> 00:45:19,960
But I don't know if we'll be ready for this week,

936
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,239
but we'll see. I mean, that's a day to day thing.

937
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,360
That's why we announced it on Wednesday, Jay, so you

938
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,639
guys can see what's happened, you know, but a lot

939
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:31,880
can happen in the next two days. So but yeah,

940
00:45:32,199 --> 00:45:34,360
I mean we're looking for and then in terms of

941
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,559
this last week, I thought we came out. I mean,

942
00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:40,079
guys are banged up, but I think everybody that played

943
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:42,679
in that game should should play in this next one too.

944
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: Is from Kilani. Yeah, Jay, I mean, let's let's be honest.

945
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,679
Speaker 5: This is now the third week that someone has asked

946
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,920
him in the Monday media availability about health and he

947
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,480
has then referred them to the availability report that comes

948
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,000
out on Wednesday. Now, I think it's fair for him

949
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,079
to ask that question. Yes, but you already had precedence

950
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:06,800
at twice that he's gonna tell you if you're asking

951
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,159
about health, he's gonna refer you to Wednesday.

952
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:15,039
Speaker 3: Kilani, He's gonna he's gonna he's gonna stick to the brand.

953
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,039
Speaker 7: Okay, I think I think the availability report is one

954
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:20,559
of Kalani's favorite things. He doesn't have to answer questions.

955
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,159
It's gonna come out Wednesday.

956
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 5: Well, he thought he didn't have to answer questions, and

957
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,760
apparently he still does.

958
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:31,679
Speaker 3: I thought it was funny and tongue in cheek. You

959
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,599
didn't have a third down conversion Kalani till the second half.

960
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,159
How can you find more consistency with your offense?

961
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously you have to give defense a

962
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,559
lot of credit. You tel put us in some difficult

963
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:47,679
positions on the short yardage one. Those are the ones

964
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,280
you like to convert. But it's gonna be a back

965
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,320
and forth game. I feel like, you know, we we

966
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,159
can utilize our punter to be a weapon for us.

967
00:46:56,159 --> 00:46:58,960
He can usually flip the field for us, and and uh,

968
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:01,159
you know, we punted and got a muff punt from that.

969
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,960
So you just keep playing the game and you don't

970
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:06,760
worry too much about trying to win it in one play,

971
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:10,880
and sometimes things go your way, sometimes they don't. I mean,

972
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,199
looking in the game altogether, we held on to the

973
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,639
lead for a long time until we were I think

974
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:18,480
we're out of the lead. Maybe first a couple of

975
00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:21,559
minutes and that's fine. We got it back and we

976
00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:23,440
were able to hang on to it and add two

977
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,239
scores on it, and you know, I think the rest

978
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,519
is history. I think, I think looking at what we

979
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:32,360
did in this game, I wouldn't. I mean, considering what

980
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,039
was going on at the time, I felt like we

981
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:37,480
made some really good decisions according to the game plan.

982
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, good decisions, he states.

983
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 3: Any thoughts of there, guys, any commentary to that SoundBite

984
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,480
from Kilane, I just.

985
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,159
Speaker 5: Think that these were two really good defenses. I don't

986
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:53,079
think either one of these offenses played poorly. I think

987
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:55,360
they had to earn everything. They went out and got it.

988
00:47:55,519 --> 00:47:58,039
Neither one of these offenses made a ton of mistakes

989
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:01,840
out of side of Devin dam Piers interception and then

990
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,480
the choice stots to kick the field goal. Like, I

991
00:48:03,519 --> 00:48:05,679
don't think the offense has played poorly. I think you

992
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,360
truly saw an exhibition of elite defenses. So this is

993
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,360
not a concern for me.

994
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, both the defenses are very good.

995
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, like, the only thing I have add

996
00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:16,719
to that is the one mistake I saw, b what

997
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,519
you make was Parker Kingston dropping that that pass over

998
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:22,400
the room because he could have been gone. Yes, he

999
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,239
could have been gone. He burned his man, and you

1000
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,960
know sometimes that happens in a rivalry game. That's the

1001
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,000
only thing that I was like, Wow, we really that's.

1002
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,559
Speaker 4: More player execution than it is play calling or anything else.

1003
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:37,440
I think offs. I think a Rod had a great game.

1004
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 7: I mean, there's obviously been a lot of talk about

1005
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,280
the end of the first half, but you know, we

1006
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:43,880
drained the clock, Utah didn't.

1007
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: Get a score and we would end up up three.

1008
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:49,639
Speaker 3: Couple last things here, why did you feel Klaudia was

1009
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:53,559
important to open up your postgame press conference talking and

1010
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:56,440
giving respect for Kyle Whittingham.

1011
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: Well, Kyle, Kyle played at b y U, you know,

1012
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:03,800
and so he's we always have this appreciation for people

1013
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,360
that have been through here. Look at all the all

1014
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,760
the players that are that are coaching now and from

1015
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,280
Sarkisian at Texas and Andy Reid that's at Kansas City

1016
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,800
Chiefs and those that are out there. I mean that

1017
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,039
that have come through by you Bronco Mendenhall and Utah State,

1018
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:23,760
and it's if you've been part of this family. I

1019
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,920
think it's important for us to recognize that. So he

1020
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,840
played here, I had a great career here and he's

1021
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,719
done a great jobs as a head coach, and so

1022
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,440
my thing is he's been a mentor to me, and

1023
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,599
so there's a lot of great things I learned from him,

1024
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,119
and I just wanted people to know the person that

1025
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:42,280
I respect and love and and maybe they don't understand

1026
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,199
him as well as I do. And I think what

1027
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,519
I was trying to do is give them an idea

1028
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:49,599
of of of why he's it's important to me and

1029
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,280
and why people probably don't know obviously if you guys

1030
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,159
don't know him as well as I do. But yeah,

1031
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:57,239
he's been he's super important in my life. And just

1032
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,480
want to make sure that he and his family know

1033
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:03,360
I appreciate them everything they've they've done for me, and

1034
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,480
and you know, I wouldn't be here for one for them.

1035
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think it's balanced. I think

1036
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:13,159
you're you're only as good as the mentors. Remember, Kline

1037
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,760
had great mentorship with Lavelle.

1038
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 4: As his coach.

1039
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: He then went to the NFL went to Eastern Arizona

1040
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:25,400
Junior College, where he was under the tutelage of Scott Giles,

1041
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,320
a former b YU linebacker, as well as Brian May

1042
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,199
former b y U offensive line coach, and you know

1043
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,800
they they coached him up to be a coach, and

1044
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,000
then he went to SUU and he was under Gary Anderson. Okay,

1045
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:43,239
Gary Anderson and that and that s u U crew,

1046
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:46,920
and I think he actually had a g A spot. Actually,

1047
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,440
first he was at g at g A under under

1048
00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:53,280
Gary Crowton and then went down to SUU under Gary Anderson,

1049
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,559
and then that crew got brought up to the University

1050
00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:00,920
of Utah under Kyle winning him. Okay, So he eventually

1051
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:04,880
left Utah to go with Gary Anderson at I believe

1052
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,880
Oregon State and then came to BYU. So you look

1053
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,360
at the mentorship, you look at the pathway, and the

1054
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,119
majority of the mentorship came from Kyle Whittingham. So he

1055
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:18,360
learned the ways of Kyle and he took the good

1056
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:22,360
and maybe did away with whatever bad, but a lot

1057
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,920
of it was good. And that's why Kilanie's a great coach,

1058
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,239
because he's got a balance of all of those mentors

1059
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,880
within him. And one of his mentors is with him

1060
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,239
on the staff right now, Gary Anderson, as an analyst

1061
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,480
on the defensive side of the ball. We're only as

1062
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:41,360
good as the people we surround ourselves with remember that, okay,

1063
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,199
and so always surround yourself with greatness, as Chad Lewis

1064
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,960
always admonishes. A couple other soundbites here from Kilane. Last season,

1065
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,119
this team lost two games after beating Utah. How do

1066
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:56,360
you stay focused? How do you stay humble? How do

1067
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,880
you stay hungry? Knowing that that happened last year?

1068
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,519
Speaker 1: Well, to learn from the past, I mean I I

1069
00:52:02,599 --> 00:52:04,280
we just had to do some things different. I think

1070
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,000
last year there's such an emotional game and then and

1071
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:09,840
everything went into it. It's the same thing like this year.

1072
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,639
You know where if you put so much energy into it,

1073
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:14,320
and maybe it was a build up of the of

1074
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,679
the game week itself, and then the energy at the

1075
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,320
game and being on the road. But then you know,

1076
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,400
when we get we when we got back in the buses,

1077
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,599
we came back here to Provo and we had I

1078
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:28,920
mean thousands and thousands of the whole student section was

1079
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,400
here in our parking lot. We couldn't even get out

1080
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,639
of our buses for a couple hours. I mean they

1081
00:52:33,639 --> 00:52:36,960
had will fare and crowdsurfing and and so we were

1082
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:39,840
It kind of delayed us, you know, getting getting the

1083
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,960
bedding and as much as we enjoyed the energy and

1084
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:45,519
loved it, it kind of delayed us getting our sleep

1085
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:47,519
so we can get to church the next morning, you know.

1086
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:50,519
But but it just you just saw how much people

1087
00:52:50,639 --> 00:52:53,880
loved it, and maybe our attention to the detail and

1088
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,719
the urgency for the next week didn't go well, But

1089
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,199
it might probably have something to do it the week

1090
00:52:57,679 --> 00:52:59,719
I I just had the I knew that going into

1091
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,599
this game, and that when we saw on the schedule

1092
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:04,360
that we didn't perform at our best against Kansas the

1093
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,599
next week, and.

1094
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 6: We need to do things a little bit differently.

1095
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: You need to be more deliberate and intentional about what

1096
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,880
we want to get done, how we're gonna learn from

1097
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,320
this game, how we're gonna put it away, and how

1098
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,000
we can't just be I mean, the game's done. We've

1099
00:53:17,039 --> 00:53:20,159
got to move on us and Utah, and regardless of

1100
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:22,639
whether it's a victory or defeat, you have to move on.

1101
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,679
You have to find ways to get better, and you

1102
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,199
have to make sure that you don't have the lasting

1103
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:31,239
effect of a game one week linger onto the next.

1104
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,960
And so we're fortunate because we have this game coming

1105
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,920
up against Iowa State and then we have a buye,

1106
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,519
so we can really look forward to doing everything we

1107
00:53:39,559 --> 00:53:42,360
can to use all our energy going into this game,

1108
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,719
knowing that there's going to be a little bit of

1109
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,119
rest after that. So with that being said, and we're

1110
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:50,920
talking to doctor Maynard sports scientists, and we've devised a

1111
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,760
plan to get ourselves in a better position that we

1112
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,360
can do on ourselves intentionally. And we can do all

1113
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,519
that and still not good enough, but at least we're

1114
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:02,320
going to do our part and make sure that we

1115
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,960
we focus on trying to find ways to be at

1116
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:05,800
our best this weekend.

1117
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: What's your level of confidence right now, guys that this

1118
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,199
team will stay humble, stay hungry, and and be focused

1119
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,960
heading into this road this road game versus Iowas State.

1120
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:21,199
What do you make of it? Any any thoughts here?

1121
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,599
What's your level of confidence?

1122
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:24,599
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1123
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 7: It felt like coming out of this game it was

1124
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,960
less physical than last year. I don't feel like the

1125
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,280
players are as beat up.

1126
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 3: I think Isaiah Glasger has been kind of beat up

1127
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,639
since Colorado and that's just been every week and he's

1128
00:54:38,679 --> 00:54:42,559
not completely healthy right but Jack Kelly not completely healthy,

1129
00:54:42,599 --> 00:54:44,000
but he played last week.

1130
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:47,159
Speaker 4: Did he play up to his his talent? Level.

1131
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,679
Speaker 7: No, but he played well, but you didn't have someone

1132
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,039
rolling up on an offensive lineman that took him out

1133
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:53,000
for the rest of the year.

1134
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 4: Right, And So for.

1135
00:54:55,599 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 7: Me, where I'm going with Iowa State is how injured

1136
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,360
are they? Because I think they've got two corners that

1137
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,239
are out for the year. I'm not and I don't

1138
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,800
remember if that's the time, but I seem to remember

1139
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,079
hearing they've got two corners out for the year. So

1140
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,119
can can their backups take out Chase? Can they match

1141
00:55:15,199 --> 00:55:17,320
up with Chase and Parker? And I think that's where

1142
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,679
it comes down to. I feel pretty good honestly about BYU.

1143
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:23,480
But even this year, Bay has been a different team

1144
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:26,079
on the road than they have been at home. We've

1145
00:55:26,119 --> 00:55:28,679
still won, but the games have been a lot more dicey.

1146
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:31,199
I think if Arizona and Colorado had been at home,

1147
00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:32,159
it's a two score.

1148
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 4: Game, honestly.

1149
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:36,119
Speaker 7: So it's can b why you show up on the

1150
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:41,079
road and and can Iowa State matchup with Parker and Chase?

1151
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, as far.

1152
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:49,639
Speaker 3: As the line is concerned right now, BYU is not

1153
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,800
a favorite. By the way, Iowa stayed a three and

1154
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:59,199
a half point favorite, but the analytics ESPN analytics slightly

1155
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,400
favors BYU. This is similar to the Utah game. Guys,

1156
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,400
Iowa States five and two right now BYU seven and zero.

1157
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,559
Speaker 4: But you know, Vegas is in the betting game.

1158
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:13,679
Speaker 3: And yes, Iowa States on a two game losing streak,

1159
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,400
but both of these losses are one score games. Cincinnati

1160
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,639
thirty eight thirty and then Colorado twenty four to Selo team.

1161
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:25,119
Speaker 7: They were down really big to Cincinnati. It was that

1162
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:26,679
that scores a lot closer.

1163
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,159
Speaker 4: Than that game was.

1164
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt about it. They got it close.

1165
00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:33,079
Though they got to close, they got it respectable. Number eight.

1166
00:56:33,159 --> 00:56:37,119
What preparations have you done with the Sports science department

1167
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:38,800
getting ready for the Iowa State game?

1168
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:41,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, I don't have time to explain

1169
00:56:41,639 --> 00:56:44,440
everything that we've done, but we're definitely doing things different

1170
00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:46,960
now than we did last week. But we're also doing

1171
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,639
things differently now that we did, you know, from last year.

1172
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:53,000
And so there's a lot of things that we could

1173
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:55,159
do that the science shows that if you put yourself

1174
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:59,320
in a better position, whether that's health or getting our

1175
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,719
minds right and and and maybe our focus, that all

1176
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,159
that stuff we've worked on and uh, you know, I'm

1177
00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:08,320
not gonna let everybody know what we're doing, but I

1178
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,000
think it could be a competitive advantage for us.

1179
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 3: Secrets klate tell us, so that the whole world knows.

1180
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,880
Number nine, how confident are you that bear black markets,

1181
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,679
stay humble, stay hungry, stay stoic as the season progresses.

1182
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Speaker 1: H He's the exact definition of it. That's why I

1183
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,719
mean that you guys have been watching him, have you

1184
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,639
seen any of the success go to his head at all?

1185
00:57:33,199 --> 00:57:37,599
He is humble, He thinks of others. He's a great teammate,

1186
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,440
and so it's great to have him and the coaches

1187
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,119
and everybody that's bought into what we're trying to focus on,

1188
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:48,440
which is a team. I mean, he he went, he

1189
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,920
did service, you know, on his on his time off,

1190
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,800
and so this young man gets it, and we just

1191
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,719
need to make sure that we keep putting in a

1192
00:57:56,719 --> 00:57:59,239
position where he can he can really thrive in the

1193
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,039
humble and stay humble and stay hungry standard that we've said.

1194
00:58:03,079 --> 00:58:04,960
And I think I think he'll do really well for

1195
00:58:05,039 --> 00:58:07,199
the rest of the team too. But he's he's he

1196
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:09,400
does that automatically. I wish I could take credit for that,

1197
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,280
but that's that's already ingrained in him from his family.

1198
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:15,039
Speaker 3: Is the Is there anyone else on the team that

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00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:17,960
that embodies stay humble, stay hungry more so than than

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00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:18,880
Bear Bachmeyer.

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Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think so.

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00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:25,719
Speaker 7: He just he's Bear Bachmeer. This was said yesterday. Bear

1203
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,679
Bachmeyer is a Rod. If a Rod, could you know,

1204
00:58:29,519 --> 00:58:30,519
make a perfect QB.

1205
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 3: Even the mannerisms off a could create a college football

1206
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:42,320
custom player on n C double A twenty twenty five.

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00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 7: Even even the mannerisms of Bear is just a Ron.

1208
00:58:49,039 --> 00:58:50,360
It's just a Rod younger.

1209
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: It's crazy, uh with iowash stay coming off of bye.

1210
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,440
What's the biggest challenge in facing a team that has

1211
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,519
an extra week to prepare for you Kladi?

1212
00:58:58,679 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, We've been in that position when we you've had

1213
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,639
some extra time to prepare, so we know it can

1214
00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:04,679
be a benefit. You just have to be ready for

1215
00:59:04,719 --> 00:59:08,039
a lot of different things. And I think one thing

1216
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:09,760
that we've learned from this year is that we've seen

1217
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,320
a lot of different things that maybe doesn't.

1218
00:59:12,039 --> 00:59:14,679
Speaker 6: Show up on film uh week to week.

1219
00:59:14,719 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: And so when when a team's given an extra week

1220
00:59:17,519 --> 00:59:20,559
to pre to prepare for us, UH, it's probably a

1221
00:59:20,639 --> 00:59:22,599
definite that We're not that we're gonna be able to

1222
00:59:22,599 --> 00:59:24,679
see things that they haven't put on film yet. So

1223
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,880
we just have to anticipate it and see, you know,

1224
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,639
some of the things that maybe we might have struggled

1225
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:32,239
with in the in the first seven games.

1226
00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 6: That they might try to capitalize on it. We just

1227
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:34,840
have to be ready for all of it.

1228
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,119
Speaker 1: And that's that's what the focus will be on us

1229
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:39,079
in all three phases going into this game.

1230
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,719
Speaker 3: Well, scouting report here on Iowa State, lots of good

1231
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,039
quarterbacks in the league, But what do you make of

1232
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:48,320
rock O Beck and where he ranks in this league?

1233
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 4: Oh?

1234
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:50,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, really good.

1235
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: And you look at what he can do with I

1236
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,480
mean he can he can throw the ball, he can

1237
00:59:53,519 --> 00:59:56,559
can run too, and just the demand that he has

1238
00:59:56,599 --> 00:59:59,800
and the understanding of the offense, and then I mean

1239
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,440
he it helps that his background having a father that

1240
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,599
played and well coached team. I mean that's and you

1241
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,400
you've put a big, physical line in front of him,

1242
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,400
and then a run run game with the running backs

1243
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,400
that can do a lot of different things, talented tight ends.

1244
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,320
These guys are big and they're strong, and it's gonna

1245
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:17,920
be a physical game. We're gonna have to play at

1246
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,280
our best and and we're looking forward to it though.

1247
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,960
I think this could really get us to another level

1248
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,800
of competition. Our guys see it on film and they're

1249
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,239
really well coaches. Not a lot of lot not a

1250
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:32,280
lot of uh weaknesses in this team, So I'm looking

1251
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,880
forward to it. I just got to make sure that

1252
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:34,800
our guys are ready for.

1253
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 4: This game, and then a little revenge game has to

1254
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,480
be on the mind. Kilde. Last time you played Iowa State,

1255
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:41,400
they got you pretty good.

1256
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,159
Speaker 3: Since then, this team has lost four games and they've

1257
01:00:45,239 --> 01:00:48,360
all been very close. Did something change after that game

1258
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,000
specifically versus Iowa State.

1259
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I think looking at it,

1260
01:00:53,639 --> 01:00:57,119
we made a lot of mistakes, so I remember correctly,

1261
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:02,039
you know, and didn't really help ourselves with some turnovers

1262
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:05,760
and so, but you know, just being committed to getting

1263
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,480
bigger and stronger, especially at the old line and D line,

1264
01:01:09,639 --> 01:01:12,639
I felt like there's a commitment to do that. And

1265
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,239
what a great experience for our guys though, I mean,

1266
01:01:15,239 --> 01:01:17,360
some of our guys that are still playing had that

1267
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,679
experience and they know the importance of the off season

1268
01:01:20,719 --> 01:01:22,519
and getting bigger and stronger. They did that, and so

1269
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,800
we're a different team than two years ago, you know,

1270
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,159
And I'd like to think we're a more physical team

1271
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:30,360
than we were, but we'll find out. We'll see what

1272
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,679
happens on Saturday and see if our guys are going

1273
01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:35,079
to be ready for that. But we challenged our guys

1274
01:01:35,079 --> 01:01:38,280
to be physical against Utah, and and felt like defensively

1275
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,639
we were physical and a lot of the run game

1276
01:01:40,719 --> 01:01:42,840
didn't go through the inside. They didn't go through the middle.

1277
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:45,840
A lot of it was outside runs, big plays on

1278
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,719
the flight sweep and things like that, and I'm okay

1279
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,639
with it. I think we handled the running backs for

1280
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:54,599
the most part except for the outside stuff. So that's

1281
01:01:54,679 --> 01:01:57,519
probably more on us as coaches making sure that we

1282
01:01:57,559 --> 01:02:01,280
get the outside the exterior are as solid as we

1283
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,559
had the inside, and I thought for the most part

1284
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:06,079
we knocked them back. And then on O line, we

1285
01:02:06,199 --> 01:02:08,159
challenged the O line to be physical and that's what

1286
01:02:08,199 --> 01:02:12,159
we did. The run run yards or downhill right up

1287
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:15,840
the middle, whether it was LJ running the ball or

1288
01:02:16,039 --> 01:02:19,880
or or bear. A lot of it was the inside

1289
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,239
run game, and you saw the movement from our line

1290
01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:24,440
getting knocked by. It wasn't like that all the time.

1291
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,920
But they're they're tough earned yards and l J started.

1292
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,000
We wanted to just keep wearing them out. I just

1293
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:34,000
wish we could have converted that last series into a

1294
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,519
first down. But I like the way the guys, how

1295
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:39,079
physical they were, and and maybe it doesn't show up

1296
01:02:39,079 --> 01:02:41,559
in the stats, but you look at the inside yards

1297
01:02:41,559 --> 01:02:44,400
that we got, I feel like we should be really

1298
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,599
proud of how physical.

1299
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 6: We were in that game.

1300
01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 3: Okay, last he thinks your follows out Southtawalla seems to

1301
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,679
get better every single week.

1302
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,719
Speaker 4: What have you seen from him?

1303
01:02:54,239 --> 01:02:56,719
Speaker 1: We've known that father is going to be a baller

1304
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,199
from the beginning. That's why he played as a true freshman.

1305
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,840
And we knew that he could that the potential is there,

1306
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,239
and it's and the sky's a limit for this young man.

1307
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,480
He can do a lot of different things, and he's

1308
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,480
got the speed that can cover and he can run.

1309
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,559
And he's a unique player to have that type of

1310
01:03:13,559 --> 01:03:17,000
size and that length and that speed and that understanding

1311
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,480
of of how physical he can be combined with his

1312
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:23,519
covered skills. I mean that he's he's starting to really

1313
01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:27,239
come into his own. You know, I'm really proud of

1314
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,000
the way he's he's progressed and the way that Jay's

1315
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:30,960
been able to coach him.

1316
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 6: And so I think this, he's doing some really cool things.

1317
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,159
Speaker 1: He could play free and strong for us, and you know,

1318
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,599
him and Tanner did some really good things. And you

1319
01:03:38,639 --> 01:03:41,679
look at with Raider not playing, with Tommy not playing,

1320
01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:44,079
those guys had to step up town now Free had

1321
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:46,360
to step up. And then so we feel good about

1322
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,280
our depth and and but he's he was more of

1323
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,480
a co star than he was a depth guy. We

1324
01:03:51,559 --> 01:03:54,400
knew that he's gonna play for us even as a freshman,

1325
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,440
and he's doing great things for us now as a sophomore.

1326
01:03:57,639 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

1327
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 3: And then uh, look, hey, Filatow's has completely overachieved.

1328
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,559
Speaker 4: In my mind, I knew he was talented. Uh. Like,

1329
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,239
he's in the right position now at that strong safety

1330
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,599
spot and he's balling out. Uh.

1331
01:04:10,719 --> 01:04:14,159
Speaker 3: He turned something on. He flipped the switch. He is

1332
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,119
much more physical than he was last year. And that's

1333
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:21,679
what an offseason under Klani and his coaching staff can

1334
01:04:21,719 --> 01:04:25,960
do for you. Last thing, Jonathan Cabaya and Lucy tom

1335
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,360
Waipeu both played a lot.

1336
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 4: What have you seen from them?

1337
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean with both Kaban and Nucy, we had

1338
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,679
to bring him along, bring them along and and uh,

1339
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,960
you know, Cave's going through some injuries and and and

1340
01:04:40,039 --> 01:04:43,639
we're still working with with how much how much uh

1341
01:04:44,679 --> 01:04:46,800
how many reps who want to keep working with those guys.

1342
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,960
But Noosy's he's he's he's ready to as many reps

1343
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:51,440
as we can.

1344
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 6: Put on him.

1345
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: And you put him with with the d ns that

1346
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,320
we've had being playing. I mean, Lucy's done a great job,

1347
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,599
but it's also like Tassilia con been able to do

1348
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:04,039
some pretty cool things and and then you know Orion

1349
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:05,840
has been doing some amazing things at d N. We

1350
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,559
we have a bunch of DNS that could play and

1351
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:11,800
outside backer types and that's with Hunter klegg and and

1352
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:16,079
and Body screw Over and and vill Boha, you know,

1353
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:18,159
and and Logan the tweet. So those we have a

1354
01:05:18,159 --> 01:05:19,920
bunch of guys that can play a bunch of different things.

1355
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,360
And some of those DNS can even play inside. So

1356
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,119
I think Kate Pop and Soon had done a great

1357
01:05:26,199 --> 01:05:29,400
job with the d line. We challenged them to be physical, physical,

1358
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,559
and I thought they did that in this game. Obviously,

1359
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,159
I think the chunk yard is that they were able

1360
01:05:35,239 --> 01:05:38,800
to get were most of the the outside run and

1361
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,679
so we got to get better that you know. I imagine

1362
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,880
Iowa State's gonna test us with the outside run and

1363
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,679
we got to have an answer when that does happen.

1364
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 6: So but in terms of downhill.

1365
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: Line of scrimmage, felt good about us on both sides

1366
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,199
and online and D line being able to get some

1367
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,800
knock back and control the line of scrimmage for us.

1368
01:05:59,719 --> 01:06:03,639
Speaker 3: John saw some reps. He's getting healthier, he's getting stronger.

1369
01:06:03,679 --> 01:06:05,639
He should be a pivotal piece for b while you

1370
01:06:05,679 --> 01:06:07,719
down the stretch on the defensive side of the ball.

1371
01:06:08,199 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 4: And Nucy saw a lot of pts. Well.

1372
01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:14,719
Speaker 3: Nuci Tamba Peo and tall Celia Connyer are both going

1373
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:19,880
to be high level defensive ends for BYU in the

1374
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:20,920
foreseeable future.

1375
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 4: Stars.

1376
01:06:22,639 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 3: If you're looking for sacks kugarnation, those two guys are

1377
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,119
gonna be the new mayors of Sac Lake City coming

1378
01:06:30,199 --> 01:06:32,159
up in the years to come. Let's go to break.

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