WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:08.119 You are being programmed. 2 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:35.520 Listen speaks fame, a few wells man, a few things. 3 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:36.359 Time would be. 4 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:41.880 From doom. So leave you show you can I tell 5 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:50.479 your post letten stiff. 6 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:55.840 Stuff you get for. 7 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:04.400 It's a broken so ways man, I. 8 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:11.640 Come back and don't get you the rest of the day. 9 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:13.799 Should let me back time incident. 10 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:19.040 You will come out with the pressure drink today. You 11 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:20.359 kin know what's been had for. 12 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:22.040 Me before to certain. 13 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:26.280 Somewhere my life style for me pleasing live body. 14 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:30.599 Lets you know all right style, let me keep my 15 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:31.319 air shunk. 16 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:34.400 Are you sure about this? 17 00:01:35.519 --> 00:02:03.040 Just say. 18 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:01.359 Hello. Welcome back to the No Way Hose Podcasts. This 19 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:05.920 is your host, jose Galison. Today we are joined by 20 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.080 the great William Ramsey. We've had him on the show 21 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:09.759 a handful of times, so I'm sure we'll have him 22 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:12.919 on more to come. He's wrote a spate of books, 23 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:17.360 a great researcher. Like to consider him a friend, and uh, 24 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:21.439 we're here on unique times. We are here to cover 25 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:25.280 The Manchurian Candidate, which was a book and a couple 26 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:28.680 movies and obviously it's kind of a concept within our 27 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:32.719 realm and it's kind of we're in a weird time 28 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:35.360 where things are surreal right now, I know this is 29 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:37.199 goes Paywalld. So when this comes out it might be 30 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:38.919 a little bit weird, but I still think it'll make 31 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:44.280 sense today on the recording of this, Charlie Kirk was murdered. 32 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:49.560 Life just it's recordings, it's a wild but I mean, 33 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:52.039 with us talking about mesuring kind obviously we know nothing yet. 34 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:54.879 But I mean even with that, we have that. You know, 35 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:57.039 there's other things in the nudes. We have the this 36 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:00.560 recent Ukrainian killing and the and the murderer himself is 37 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:05.280 already claiming mk ultra type claims. I mean, this is this, 38 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:07.520 this topic today cuts the root of a lot of this. 39 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:08.479 Uh. 40 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:11.840 In most parapolitical books when they talk on mk ultra 41 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:16.039 the like, usually it kind of starts around the lore 42 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:19.759 of the Manchurian candidate, and uh, we're cutting through that 43 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:22.439 today and uh, I don't know, maybe it'll be it'll 44 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:26.000 resound uh by the time this comes out, because we 45 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:28.879 are in odd times. But that's enough of that. Let's 46 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:32.120 get William in here. What is up, my friend? We 47 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:36.280 are living in odd odd times. So uh, yeah, I 48 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:37.560 don't know if you have any thoughts on that. Like 49 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.080 I said, I mean, it's weird not to mention it 50 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:41.479 considering the topic, but obviously we know nothing. I think 51 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:44.360 as of right now, there's been I think one suspect 52 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:47.120 that initially they thought might be the guy, and that's 53 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:49.439 kind of seems like that's at least they're not going 54 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:52.039 that now. But it literally just happened hours ago. So 55 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:55.759 I don't know. I'm gonna be covering. I'm gonna have Ken, Yeah, 56 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:57.639 I'm gonna have Ken Silva on my show tomorrow in 57 00:03:57.639 --> 00:04:00.560 the morning show, so my live show, so I'm sure 58 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:02.560 we'll probably have some a little bit more by then. 59 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:06.039 But man, just wild times. But I don't know if any thoughts, 60 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:09.199 if you want it anyway, draw the connections to Manchurian candidate, 61 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:11.080 because as we were talking about, but I mean, there's 62 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:13.719 plenty of other current examples. I think I forgot to 63 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:18.079 mention Ryan Rauth. He's also seemingly prepper preparing himself for 64 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:21.560 some sort of insanity argument with some of the craziness 65 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:25.759 coming out of the legal ordeal over there lately. I've 66 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:28.519 covered that a little bit on my show. But yeah, 67 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.959 I mean, I guess I'm kind of hemming and hauling enough. 68 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:34.240 If you have any thoughts otherwise we can kind of 69 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.199 just go ahead and get into the Manchurian candidate. Maybe 70 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:38.519 you can tell us why this is sort of relevant. 71 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:40.360 I've already kind of already laid that out, but maybe 72 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:41.920 you have more thoughts to set out for it. 73 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.800 There's a lot going on, so you know, you have 74 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:48.680 to have sympathy for the family of Charlie Cook thirty one, 75 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:52.040 just a guy who's into free speech. So if you're 76 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:55.959 a free speech advocate on that regard, you have to 77 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:58.879 kind of rue the day that this day, there'll be 78 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:02.759 a day of infamy for ever that somebody shot him 79 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:07.879 in the neck and a young guy who never advocated 80 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:11.360 violence really wasn't you know, just to talk or so 81 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:15.040 I think that that's important to remember. And it's still 82 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:17.720 we're kind of still in the kind of fog of 83 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:21.680 these assassinations and other assassinations. Actually to this day. You 84 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:24.480 mentioned Ruth, we don't know that much about him. Some 85 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:27.560 people have tied him to the State Department. We have 86 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:31.759 crooks which we don't know much about. Luigi Manngioni, Nikita 87 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:35.360 Cassap who was a literal nine to a Niner member 88 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:39.800 who wanted to kill Trump, and killed his parents. You 89 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:47.519 had recently Robin Westman, the trans assassin in Minnesota to 90 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:51.319 Carlos Brown, who said that he had material in his body. 91 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:54.920 So like he's either prepping for the insanity defense or 92 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:56.279 is insane. 93 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:59.519 I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but who knows. Maybe they 94 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:03.959 are mk altering inner city blacks or whatever homeless. I mean, 95 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:07.800 they do. They have a history of targeting, the targeting 96 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:10.560 the down trodden populations. Don't get me wrong, I kind 97 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.199 of doubt that, but I mean it's not outside the 98 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:17.439 mo of the indeligence agencies, not at all, not. 99 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:20.000 Even at all. And then you have this guy Shane 100 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:23.639 Tumora who went to Black Rock shot people from the NFL. 101 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:27.160 I think he said that he had disappeared, so strange 102 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:29.519 things and even going all the way back. So I 103 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:34.040 used the kind of the fictional elements of man Cheerion 104 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:37.920 Candidate film, the original one that was released in nineteen 105 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:42.120 sixty two. I use that as a device to kind 106 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:45.240 of help people understand what's happening in the present day 107 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:48.600 with this kind of flurry of crazed assassins going after 108 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:51.360 the president. And now we don't know what's going on 109 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:55.720 with the Kirk, but there it seemed to be a 110 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:59.240 kind of a sophisticated operation. There were other people arrested 111 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:01.319 on there that we're making a bunch of noise as 112 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:03.639 a distraction. So a lot of times, and even in 113 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:08.839 the JFK assassination, which we're coming up on the anniversary soon, yeah, 114 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.480 there was he was assassed. I think he was killed 115 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.959 at about one o'clock. But before that time, there was 116 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:17.879 a epileptic seizure right in the middle of the street. 117 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:20.879 So all the cops there and then the paramedics took 118 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:22.319 care of this guy, took him to the hospital. He 119 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:24.720 disappeared and they never found out his name, so he 120 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:26.079 kind of cleared out the area. 121 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.279 Can't but notice tomorrow September eleventh, too, I didn't even 122 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:31.319 notice into my daughter mentioned. I was like, whoa, it's 123 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:34.279 a odd timing. I don't know, maybe it's just my 124 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:36.879 parent recognition, but I've noticed it passed like a week 125 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:38.920 or two or actually past week has been a pretty 126 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:42.759 big story rehashing from an old story of kind of 127 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.759 the old art students that were looking into the nine 128 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:47.439 to eleven, you know, or not nine eleven, the kind 129 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:50.199 of looking to federal buildings shortly before that particularly came 130 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:53.439 from Israel. So yeah, I don't know why I initially 131 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:57.040 dug into that, but point being is just the the timing, 132 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:59.519 the I don't know, it's it's hard not to notice 133 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:02.040 these pats in this realm. You never know to what 134 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:05.240 degree Am I just giving too much umbrage to things? 135 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:09.519 But I mean dates matter, especially. It always seems to 136 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:11.839 be anniversaries, and it always sometimes they seem to have 137 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:13.600 like a day off, because there's like a few things 138 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.000 on April nineteenth, there's a few things on April twentieth. 139 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:19.360 Then I think there's also some things on tenth as well, 140 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:21.839 September tenth and September eleventh. I don't know offhand, but 141 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.439 I vaguely recall there being some I know, you get 142 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:26.199 more into that realm, so maybe you know better than 143 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:28.639 I do. But I just as you're mentioning it just 144 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.279 recalled like, yeah, tomorrow is September eleventh, and we just 145 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:34.200 had what I think could very well. I mean, time 146 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:37.000 will tell by the time this especially hits the public 147 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.320 in a couple of weeks from now, as opposed to 148 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:42.279 the patrons. I mean, I've seen some people comparing this 149 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:45.799 to a reichs Dog moment, and I think they're right. 150 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:48.600 The only creepy part about it is when they are 151 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:50.679 these people that I've been seeing a lot of these 152 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:52.919 viral messages of oh, it's a Reichsag. Well, then they're 153 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:55.679 taking and that means now we got to root out 154 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:57.320 the commis, and we got to X, Y and Z 155 00:08:57.519 --> 00:08:58.960 and this and that, and you're like, well, you're missing 156 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:02.799 the point of the Reichstag. The Reich's dog is, you know. 157 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:05.679 I mean, obviously I don't claim to be an historical scholar, 158 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:07.639 but I know many of us, pecially in Aroun, think 159 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:10.879 there may have been some chicanery afoot, perhaps some sort 160 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:13.440 of false flag, and so to take the oh now 161 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:17.320 we must marshal in or usher in martial power because 162 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:19.720 of this event, Well you're kind of taking the bait. 163 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.320 And so I think that people are right, this might 164 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:25.679 be a Reichstag moment, but unfortunately like not in the 165 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:27.399 way of like, oh, well now we need to go 166 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:30.919 attack our enemies. I'm almost a little bit concerned. I'm 167 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:32.679 seeing that narrative take a little bit of feat at 168 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:35.279 this moment too, to be honest, So I don't know. 169 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:36.600 I guess I just threw a lot at you there. 170 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:39.799 But we're in a weird, unique time and I don't know, 171 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:41.759 there's all this stuff kind of ties into it. So 172 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:43.960 obviously I don't want to try to delve into speculation 173 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:46.440 whatsoever because it's very early. But it's hard not to 174 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:47.960 connect the themes. 175 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.360 Well, I mean, you have to see this. Can you 176 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:53.840 talk a lot about kind of gladiol and strategy of tension, 177 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:55.679 and I think it has to be seen in that. 178 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:58.799 But also is this kind of collective mind control stuff 179 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:02.600 where they're ramping up the chaos for whatever reason and 180 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:07.240 it's actually happening worldwide, but this will really stoke the fire. 181 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:10.519 So but the rights to eggs another show. Yeh, A 182 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:13.360 huge amount of problems with that, Yeah, huge amount of 183 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:14.759 problems with vanderl As. 184 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:19.440 He's a patsy exactly what I was driving out, which 185 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:21.600 I have no love loss for Commis, don't get me wrong, 186 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:24.559 but it's like, also, I've studied gladiol and that was 187 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:26.559 most of the time, it's just this low hanging fruit 188 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:29.480 of Oh well, the the stupid conservatives will buy you 189 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:31.320 if you buy it, if you just go it's Commis, 190 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:34.600 then they'll go, Okay, cool, uh, and they just kind 191 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:36.840 of over over and over again. Oh, it's commedy's comings 192 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:39.399 to justify their evil. And just because they're comedis doesn't 193 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.120 mean you can do evil to them. I don't know. Uh, 194 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:44.039 but yeah, sorry, I don't need to keep cuting you off, 195 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:45.679 because there's a lot going through my mind in this 196 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:46.600 given point time. 197 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.080 So but yeah, I mean, I think that that it 198 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:52.759 is important to look at all these events. I don't 199 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:54.840 know how this is going to play out. Clearly the 200 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:57.960 right is very angry. This guy was a liked person 201 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:00.679 and uh, I mean he was a place where you 202 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:04.960 could shoot them, which is really weird. But it's in 203 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.360 the realm of these other shooters. These people are trying 204 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.320 to get Trump, they're still trying to kill them. Like 205 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.120 I don't know, me, I don't even know. I know 206 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:14.639 there's public assassins, but how many assassins haven't really been 207 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:17.639 Not all of them are actually the bulge. There was 208 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:20.039 another one that was caught by secret service in DC, 209 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.960 and I don't think we ever learned his name. So 210 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:29.679 this will reverberate, I think, And I think before you 211 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:34.320 have these huge societal upheavals, there are steps, like steps 212 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:37.960 to the Civil War. There were things that happened Harper's Ferry, 213 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:42.240 the Fort Sumpter event, and so I think that this 214 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:44.480 is like one of these ramp ups, like this will 215 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:47.039 be a water mark or it'll be some kind of 216 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:52.559 memory of like, Okay, then Charlie Kirk assassinated, shot in 217 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:55.919 the neck and really gruesome way like it's very ugly stuff. 218 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:57.200 Yeah. I know a lot of people might be mad 219 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:59.360 at me some stuff is that I genuinely am like 220 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:01.720 like this is I'm like, this is wild, this is 221 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.399 not good. It's really sad. Obviously, I do think I've 222 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:06.679 I definitely have my issues and I've said these you know, 223 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:09.639 had despicable takes on some things. But at this end 224 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:11.200 of the day, he, like you said before, he's never 225 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.039 done any violence to anyone. And he might advocate for 226 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:16.440 some and sometimes certain situations where I disagree with that, 227 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:19.279 but it's just words. If anything, I didn't, I would 228 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:21.200 never want any violence to come to him because if anything, 229 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:23.639 you know, like for me, who has disagree so it 230 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:25.879 takes this counter to what I want. That's going to 231 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:28.679 make him a martyr, uh and kind of lion eyes. 232 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.080 A lot of his beliefs, I mean some of which 233 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:33.240 I obviously would like that those things can line eyes, 234 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.399 but they are obviously things that I don't But point 235 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:37.799 being is, it's a just what a what a weird 236 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:40.519 time we were entering the years of lead, is what 237 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:43.519 it seems like. But yeah, it's just tragic. It's just tragic. 238 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.159 I mean, it is scary to see our us going 239 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.679 in this uh in this this I don't know, this 240 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:51.200 is this direction. It's a it's very weird. We crossed 241 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:54.559 an odd doorway here and I don't like it. But yeah, 242 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:56.159 but it goes back. 243 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.240 So I think that the man Cheerian candidate. I mean 244 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:01.480 you mentioned numerology. Yeah, book itself and the film are 245 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:05.200 full of numerology. They really are remarkable in that sense. 246 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:08.720 Like in this this was suppressed. The film was suppressed 247 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.559 for twenty five years. He was released in sixty two 248 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:17.080 before the JFK assassination in November of sixty three. And 249 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:19.600 one of the interesting things about the background and one 250 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:21.559 things that why I bring it up, And it's an 251 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:26.399 important cultural artifact and kind of like for parapolitics as 252 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:32.480 well for an innumerable amount of reasons. But it was 253 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:37.080 made with the kind of oversight, an interest of JFKA himself. 254 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:40.200 So he was very close friends with Frank Sinatra, who 255 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:42.519 was kind of the producer. He was kind of the 256 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:44.279 kingpin to get the project done. 257 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:49.639 Now about the right, real quick, I've heard this before. 258 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.519 Now this was a book before prior, right, well, this 259 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:55.679 was a book that Condon book. Yeah, rich In Condon book. 260 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:58.000 See that you bring it up on the if you 261 00:13:58.039 --> 00:13:58.600 bring it up. 262 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.960 On the side to see the cobad sorry, yeah, movie. 263 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:04.200 And then here's the slides of the slide. I mean 264 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.480 that's Crooks Ruth. He's this I made a couple of 265 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:15.320 days ago before this assassination. Nelms, Chapman, Pinkley, Levelsberger, Jabbar. 266 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:18.440 There's the movie cover. This is the book cover. So 267 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:21.679 and that's Richard Condon right there. So fifty nine. And 268 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:25.279 there's direct quotes from the book in the film. So 269 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:27.759 he put this book out and there's tons of elevens 270 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:30.000 and things like that. So nine to eleven, this is 271 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:31.240 this master number. 272 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:34.000 So this was fifty nine. And then the the movie. 273 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:35.679 The first movie was in the sixties, right, what was 274 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:36.399 the early sixties. 275 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:38.799 I'm just trying to released in in I think it 276 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:40.639 was November of sixty two. 277 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:43.159 Okay, I'm only asking because it's like I'm trying to 278 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:44.759 get a grasp because I mean, obviously I'm getting a 279 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.120 little bit ahead of ourselves. But there's a lot of spooky, 280 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:49.440 weird connection type stuff. They're like, how could you almost 281 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:51.600 even know this? And then knowing that it's a movie 282 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:53.480 based off a book, you're like, well, did they change 283 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:55.960 some things? How far was it? And it's only it 284 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.679 sounds like only a few years prior, so I guess 285 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.200 it makes it easier for like, if it was decades prior, 286 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:04.679 becomes far more spooky of how did all these weird 287 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:07.720 occurrences seem to line up? Which we'll get into a bit, 288 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:08.639 but I just want to be clear in that. So 289 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:10.919 it's only a few years different, So it's not some 290 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:12.320 like one year difference. 291 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:16.600 It's one year difference. Yeah, one year difference between the 292 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:19.039 release of the book and the jfk assassination. 293 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:21.480 Okay, there you go, And so okay, so there was 294 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:23.480 a release, all right, Now that ties that that's a 295 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:26.320 good way to match. So I'm assuming then it gets yes, 296 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:28.559 that's right, then it gets released after it. So that's 297 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.480 a good way to conceptualize the timeline. The book's written 298 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:34.840 and then the assassination happens about a year later, and 299 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:37.720 then a year and some change later after that the 300 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:40.759 movie comes out. There you go, right. 301 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:43.399 The movie was released in sixty two. 302 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:45.240 Yeah, so the book is released in. 303 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:49.679 Fifty nine, and the assassin an assassination of JFK. Supposedly, 304 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:52.759 what the public was told was he was assassinated by 305 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:57.080 a lone communist nut Lee Harvey Oswald on November twenty second, 306 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:03.000 nineteen sixty three. It's pure how was pure nonsense. But 307 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:05.519 one of the interesting things in the overlapping things of 308 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:09.480 the book in the movie is this concept of this Manchurian. 309 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:13.600 This is somebody who's created as a patsy, created as 310 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:18.399 an assassin, and moved into place to assassinate a political figure. 311 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:22.360 So it's a political assassination is kind of the key element, 312 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:25.559 and that's what ties into these modern events. These are 313 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:29.720 political assassinations. So the Manchurian candidate is kind of like 314 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:32.840 a template if you read it. Condon is very bright. 315 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:37.679 He had a lot of great classical illusions. He's a 316 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:41.320 smart Writer's from of reference is good, but he also 317 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:44.879 knew kind of the For some reason, he was able 318 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.360 to distill a lot of the mind control, MK ultra 319 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.080 and other things that were happening in the fifties and 320 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:54.480 seeded into his book. So, even though it's fiction, it 321 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:57.879 reads like fact, and he has characters that portray it's 322 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:03.080 almost like, what's the guy who wrote Jurassic Park or whatever. Well, 323 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:05.640 those books have like a lot of science fact in 324 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:08.640 them even though they're fiction. So I think that that 325 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:12.799 Condon's writing is like that he has that capacity to 326 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:14.880 put it in there. So he has a character by 327 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:19.799 the name of yen Lo who literally is telling these 328 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:24.240 like people like it's incredible. He like relates how he's 329 00:17:24.279 --> 00:17:28.519 inducing them into kind of a hypnotic state. And I 330 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:31.319 can either bring up some videos or some let me 331 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:32.839 see if I can find my PDFs. 332 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:35.640 Yeah, if you get a video, we can bring that up. Yeah. 333 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:38.960 The uh, it's it's pretty remarkable. In all this, I 334 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:41.559 have like a hypno Oswald thing too. We can go 335 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:43.759 into that, yeah, because we're coming. 336 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:47.400 Yeah, obviously I've been some fairy vibes as well. Hypnotism 337 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:49.279 was very much in vogue during this period of time. 338 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:49.720 For sure. 339 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:54.000 There was a lot of like public like things like 340 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:57.000 even at Jack Ruby's club, they had an amateur not 341 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:00.119 an amateur but kind of like an entertainer hypnotism, who 342 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.000 would hypnotize people if they came in. 343 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:06.440 So one of the uh, well, actually I think it 344 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:09.079 was either one or two of the De trou victims 345 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:11.400 were I think I want to say it's two, but 346 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:13.400 I don't know for sure, at least one of them. 347 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:16.200 If it's two, they were kidnapped together, but they had 348 00:18:16.359 --> 00:18:19.319 just gone to see a hypnotist just prior before getting kidnapped, 349 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:21.319 and I thought that was some sort of hypnotist show 350 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:24.200 of some sort. But I just thought that, Yeah, hypnotism 351 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:27.519 in this go hand in hand. Hell, even just recently 352 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:29.680 some of my okay se content I was covering about 353 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:35.039 how they were hypnotizing witnesses on for like possible John 354 00:18:35.079 --> 00:18:38.119 Doe two people when you're like, well, are you necessarily 355 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:39.599 trying to get down to the truth, there are here 356 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:42.680 trying to obscure it. So, uh, Yeah, it comes up 357 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:45.559 a lot, for many different reasons, and many of which 358 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:46.799 are more sinister than others. 359 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.640 Yeah, it comes up. A lot of actually comes up 360 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:53.319 in the JFK event. One of the main handlers of 361 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:58.319 Oswald is this defrocked priest who likes boys. He likes 362 00:18:58.359 --> 00:18:59.960 teen boys. That's his thing. He's gay. 363 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:01.680 Yeah, Fairy, that's what I was mentioned it. So this 364 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:04.799 gives me fairy vibes already it was getting at yeah. 365 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:07.839 Yeah, yes, but it's interesting how close it reflects this book, 366 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:10.319 like the information that's in this book. 367 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:14.119 Yeah, well what you mentioned symbolism. I know with Fairy 368 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:18.039 there's very much a lot of like Catholic and religious symbolism. 369 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:20.759 Isn't that seated somewhat throughout the book? Isn't there a 370 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.079 character that kind of fills a similar role? Or am 371 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:24.440 I remembering that grit incorrectly? 372 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:29.359 David Fairy was a defruct Catholic priest, but he couldn't 373 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:32.440 get back in so he joined something. This is like 374 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:40.440 a non aligned Catholic church fake inversion. He could wear 375 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.240 he could wear his stuff, he could wear his his 376 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:50.279 clothes or he could wear his things like, but he 377 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:54.599 couldn't be a Catholic priest anymore. So like, yeah, let 378 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:55.680 me see if I can find these. 379 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:57.880 Was there ever anything that implied he's a knight se malta, 380 00:19:57.880 --> 00:19:59.440 I mean, it's a it's a it's a reach. I 381 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:01.079 don't think there were was, but I didn't know if 382 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:03.359 maybe there was something you knew because I know the 383 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:05.680 circles he swam in. I was like, I wouldn't be 384 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:08.559 surprised if there were some Malta connections because he was 385 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:14.599 kind of swimming that weird dark inverse of of Catholicism, 386 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:16.640 of I don't know what exactly was doing, but he 387 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:19.160 was doing some weird dark stuff and it seemed to 388 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:21.759 involve his faith. You know, this kind of where people 389 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:24.039 get the concept of things like black masses and stuff. 390 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:25.759 You're like, that makes you think. 391 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:30.119 Of Satanic ristuals. There. So he's and outwardly a Christian, 392 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:35.480 but he's doing hypnotic things involving Garrison called very one 393 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:37.680 of the most important people who ever lived because of 394 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:41.400 his involvement in the assassination. And he's featured by Joe 395 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:44.599 petchi Peci in the film JFK. If you remember. 396 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:47.359 Yeah, I can't sat on, but. 397 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:51.240 It's worth your time. I mean, it's a good overview 398 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:55.480 of the of the thing. If you pulled this up, 399 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:57.680 if you pull up this video, I'll show I'll go 400 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:01.279 over this video with you. Just so the illumina numbers 401 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:05.799