WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:10.720 Hello, and welcome to Mythic Mind, where we produsue wisdom 2 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:13.800 in the past between Primary second eight worlds. I'm Andrew Snyder, 3 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:27.920 and I'm glad that you're here. All right, Hello, and 4 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:31.800 welcome back to Mythic Mind. I'm really excited about everything 5 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:33.399 that we have going on here. I know what a 6 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:35.679 little bit early. I know it's still springtime, but I'm 7 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:37.439 going to go ahead and declare this this Summer of 8 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:40.079 Mythic Mind because we have so many exciting things that 9 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:42.000 are coming up on the horizon here on the very 10 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:46.719 near horizon. First of all, on a personal note, I'm 11 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:50.079 no longer teaching on campus. I had my last day 12 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:53.399 on Thursday, last Thursday, as I record this, and so 13 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:55.679 now I'm just I'm grating finishing things up, but I'm 14 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:57.439 not going to be going back to campus for a while, 15 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:00.520 the very least until the next calendar year, maybe even 16 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:04.000 beyond that. I'm just teaching all online at this point, 17 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:07.120 in working on my book and trying to get that finished, 18 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:12.680 I'm pursuing my various independent ventures, trying to really build 19 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:15.319 up the Mythic Mind fellowship even more than already is. 20 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:17.280 And so with that in mind, we're just really moving 21 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:20.560 in a lot of very exciting directions here. First of all, 22 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:23.480 we are as a record of this. We're about to 23 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:28.519 begin our book club on Augustin's Confessions. Although if you're 24 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:31.400 listening to this on the public feed, then that probably 25 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:34.799 just happened, because our first meeting is April twenty eighth 26 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:39.120 at nine pm Eastern, and I hope that you have 27 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:41.400 participated in that if you're listening to this after the fact, 28 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.760 But if you haven't, then no worries. You can just 29 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.400 jump in next time. We've got total of eight sessions here. 30 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:50.680 We're meeting every other Monday, and so our next session 31 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:52.319 will be oh listen, see let me look at the 32 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:56.640 calendar here. The next session will be on the fifth, 33 00:01:57.239 --> 00:01:59.640 again at nine pm Eastern. If you want to be 34 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:01.560 part of that, then all you need to do is 35 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:04.640 become a member of the Mythic Mind Patreon community. And 36 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:06.400 here's the thing. One thing that's unique about this book 37 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:07.959 club is that you don't even have to be a 38 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:10.240 paid patron. You can literally be a free patron, and 39 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:13.000 so it doesn't have to cost you anything. Now, of course, 40 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:15.719 you'll get more benefits out of becoming a paid patron 41 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:18.719 and I always appreciate the financial support that allows me 42 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:21.599 to keep doing more of these things. But at the 43 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:23.680 same time, it's not required. I'm not going to guilt 44 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:25.199 you into paying anything. Is If you want to sign 45 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.599 off for free just because you want to read Augustine's 46 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.000 Confessions for the first time, you want to read it again, 47 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:34.680 you want to join this community, then by all means, 48 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:37.000 just become a free patron, and I'm more than happy 49 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.759 to have you along for that. Now beyond that, looking 50 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:42.680 towards May, on May the fourth, we're kicking off our 51 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:44.639 Star Wars series. I mean, we'll still be doing other 52 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:46.599 things along the way, like, for example, the book club 53 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:49.439 will come through the podcast feed as well, but we're 54 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:51.599 also going to be doing a series on Star Wars. 55 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:53.360 I think that that would I think it's gonna be 56 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:55.840 a lot of fun. You know, we've mostly taken a 57 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.639 literary focus up to this point. I think be fun 58 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:02.439 to deal with popular media, you know, something so wide reaching, 59 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:06.360 something so gripping, something so attractive as the Star Wars franchise, 60 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:10.240 and we'll you know, talk about what we've enjoyed about it, 61 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.080 what our history is with it, what we'll talk about, 62 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:15.960 what it does well why it's so gripping as well as, 63 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:17.919 of course where it's gone off the rails a little bit. 64 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:21.159 And so we'll be doing a live stream to kick 65 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.199 that off on May the fourth at nine pm Eastern, 66 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:26.479 and so make sure that you follow along for that. 67 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:28.960 That'll be on YouTube, and so make sure that you 68 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:31.960 subscribe to my channel. You can find that link in 69 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:34.479 the show notes if you're not already subscribed. And then 70 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:36.599 a little bit later in the month, just a couple 71 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:39.080 of weeks after that, we'll be kicking off a number 72 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:42.400 of courses coming out of Mythic Mind. One of them 73 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.319 will be my course on a Brief History of Ideas, 74 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:47.680 which is a six week course. It's like an intro 75 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:50.439 to philosophy course, although and I don't mean to sound 76 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:52.599 arrogant and saying this, but it's going to be better 77 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:55.919 than most of what you would get from an intro 78 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:58.599 to philosophy course on a college campus. And I say 79 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:01.080 that as somebody who has taught to philosophy on college 80 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:08.400 campuses for a number of years that unfortunately, most philosophy courses, 81 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.560 especially on the intro level, but even beyond, most philosophy 82 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:16.279 courses really don't prioritize primary sources. I definitely do, and 83 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:21.040 so with me, you'll be reading these these foundational philosophers, 84 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:25.160 some representatives from each of the major eras of Western thought, 85 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:28.319 and you know, you'll become better equipped with dealing with 86 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:30.720 them firsthand, and as you deal with them, you'll be 87 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.079 better equipped to honestly deal with yourself and deal with 88 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:36.879 the world around us. Now, my course does prioritize the 89 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:39.439 pre modern eras of philosophy, and so we get two 90 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:44.600 weeks for the ancient period, mostly focusing on Plato and Aristotle, 91 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:47.160 and then we'll have two weeks on the medieval period, 92 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:49.839 and then we'll have one week on the moderns and 93 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:53.040 one week on the postmoderns. And that's because the modern 94 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:55.240 and postmodern philosophers are going to sound a lot more 95 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.319 familiar to you once you kind of start to get 96 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:01.439 your mind around what they're saying, because I mean, these 97 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:03.720 are the ideas that you've lived in, These are the 98 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:05.879 ideas that are around you all the time, even if 99 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:10.199 you've never studied them in a direct and intentional sense, 100 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:13.319 they'll become familiar to you as you come to understand them. 101 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:17.399 And so that the pre modern era, it can potentially 102 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:20.759 provide some correctives for us, provide another perspective, and honestly, 103 00:05:20.759 --> 00:05:22.879 I think it's more interesting because they tend to believe 104 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:25.920 in reality that everything's not just made up, so that 105 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:28.560 tends to make for much more rewarding study and conversation. 106 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.480 And so for each week of that course will be 107 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:35.279 I'll be putting out a video that goes along with 108 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.240 the assigned readings, and all the readings will be available 109 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:40.439 as PDFs of some kind that you know that can 110 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:43.920 kind of dig up through the course through the Google Classroom, 111 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:47.839 although I will make some recommendations for other translations along 112 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:49.360 the way if you want to get some hard copies, 113 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:52.160 which is always a good idea, especially for the kinds 114 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:54.319 of text that we'll be dealing with. And so there's that. 115 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:56.879 But I'm not the only one leading a course. We 116 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:00.959 have three Mythic Mind Fellowship course creators that are coming 117 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:04.319 up here out of the ranks. First we have Hannah Gilmour, 118 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:08.199 who will be teaching introductory Latin. We have Joshua Traylor 119 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.279 who will be teaching a course on Paradise Lost and 120 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.240 then looking I believe towards the Fall. We have Judah 121 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:16.920 Bruce who'll be teaching a course on American government, and 122 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:19.800 so we've got just some really exciting things that are 123 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.360 playing out here. And what follows, I'm going to provide 124 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:25.160 you with a conversation that I recently had with all 125 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:27.560 three of them, and just as an opportunity to talk 126 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.040 a little bit more about their backgrounds, their their interests, 127 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:32.279 what led them to teach these courses, and what you 128 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:35.439 can expect from these courses. I should mention that in 129 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:37.879 there in our conversation, Josh didn't even mention that he 130 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:41.319 had studied Paradise Lost at the graduate level at Memorial College, 131 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.519 and so I don't know, maybe this is all too 132 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:47.120 humble in his part, But all of these creators here 133 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:49.959 are very much qualified to do what they're doing. They 134 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:51.920 all have some experience in this arena, whether it be 135 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:56.279 academic or practical, and so I would really look forward 136 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:59.959 myself to personally following along with them. You know, Paradise Law, 137 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:04.160 it's such a central text for the Western Canon from 138 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:08.480 the seventeenth century on the late seventeenth century on. You know, 139 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:11.160 if you like Lewis, if you like I mean, honestly 140 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:13.240 just I mean so many things in the Western Canon, 141 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:15.560 then you're gonna want to learn a little bit about 142 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:18.160 Paradise Lost, and Josh is gonna be a good guide 143 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:20.560 for you in that. And with Latin. I mean, we 144 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:23.360 get into the value of Latin in our conversation, but 145 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:26.319 you know, there's so much value there in understanding language 146 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:29.079 and dealing with the some of the classical authors in 147 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:34.240 their own words. And I took a semester of Latin college. 148 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:36.920 I very much look forward to kind of holding that 149 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:40.120 in sharpening what I have picked up over time and 150 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:45.120 getting really intentional about well knowing and using the language. 151 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:48.000 And then Judah is still putting his course together, but 152 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:49.839 again I really look forward to what he has to 153 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:53.600 offer with laying down some foundational principles for what American 154 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:56.720 governance is all about and how that relates to current events. 155 00:07:57.360 --> 00:07:59.959 It's something a bit more foundational, something a bit more 156 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:02.759 then we're likely to get from your political pundits that 157 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:05.000 you may listen to. And so all these courses have 158 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.439 something of great value to offer, and I hope that 159 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:09.800 really comes through in the conversation that you're about to 160 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:12.639 listen to. And now let's go ahead and get into it, 161 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:19.920 all right, Welcome back to mythic mind. Today I'm joined 162 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:23.680 by Judah Bruce, Hannah Gilmour, and Josh Taylor to talk 163 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:26.680 a little bit about some of these courses coming up. 164 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:28.439 And if you've been listening for a while, you've you've 165 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:30.560 heard some of the ads, You've heard me plug it 166 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:32.639 a few times here and there, but this is just 167 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:34.759 an opportunity to hear a little bit more about who 168 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:37.840 they are, what they have planned, and why you should 169 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:43.200 continue on with us. I started this aspect of Mythic 170 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.759 Mind last summer with the Fiction and Philosophy of C. S. 171 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:49.080 Lewis course. I had no idea what was going to 172 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:52.480 happen with that. It was an adventure. It was me 173 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:54.960 just stepping out and trying something new, and it went 174 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:58.360 very well between the live run and people who have 175 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.480 enrolled since that time, and I've had about seventy eighty 176 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:05.559 people enroll in that course, so very successful, very enjoyable 177 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:07.759 on my end, and that really led me to just 178 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:10.080 keep on doing this, you know. I jumped right into 179 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:13.480 the bey Wolf and Bowethia's course currently finishing up Lord 180 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:16.000 of the Rings, got four more courses on the schedule 181 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:19.679 on my end, but for a while now it's really 182 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:24.919 been my objective, my desire to have this be more 183 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.720 than just me, to have it truly be a fellowship, 184 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:33.000 a fellowship of creators with a variety of interests of expertise, 185 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:35.120 so that way we can all learn from each other 186 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.600 and benefit from each other and provide that kind of 187 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.240 academic experience but beyond the walls of institutional academia. I 188 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:43.519 think there's a lot of value in that. And so 189 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:47.480 with that in mind, we've got our first course creators 190 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:50.240 coming up beyond myself, and this is an opportunity to 191 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:53.639 hear a little bit more from them. Hannah, you were 192 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:55.399 the first one to step into this, and so we'll 193 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:57.080 start with you. I want you tell us just a 194 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:59.879 little bit about yourself and what is leading you to 195 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:01.399 lead introductory Latin. 196 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:06.600 Okay, Hi everyone, I'm Hannah and I'm an undergraduate student 197 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:10.399 at Boys College, shedding humanities and classical education. And I've 198 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:13.039 had an interest in Latin ever since my freshman year 199 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:14.840 of high school when I was able to take my 200 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:18.120 first Latin course and I was probably the most excited 201 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.879 over declension chart like ever. I think my teacher was 202 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.039 just like, what is wrong with her? That was even 203 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:26.759 before getting to the fun stuff. Like Cicero and the 204 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:30.919 Amian and especially poetry I love, and ever since then, 205 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.360 that's just been a great passion of mine. 206 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:34.960 And I've tutored Latin. 207 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.720 I have taught introductory Latin before, and so yeah, that's 208 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:40.600 just a little bit about me. 209 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:46.960 Okay, So, so obviously you enjoy Latin. What about teaching 210 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:47.879 Latin appeals to you? 211 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:52.960 So I do love teaching I think I would love 212 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:56.080 to see more people steady Latin. I think it's something 213 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.720 that has not been taught very often. You'll see it 214 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.559 in classical schools, and some have at school. Still, I 215 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.240 was very fortunate I went to a public school and 216 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:06.559 they did have Latin, but it's pretty rare, and I 217 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:09.720 would say it's something that Americans today just don't really 218 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:14.159 have any value for. Really, they don't really see value 219 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:17.720 in it because in our utilitarian culture, it's not really 220 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:20.000 seen as having a practical use, although I would argue 221 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:24.799 it does have practical uses. But actually, I'm passionate about 222 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:27.200 teaching Latin, especially with this course. I'm excited to teach 223 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:29.440 it to some adults because a lot of times, like 224 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:32.039 kids these days are who are involved in classical schools 225 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:34.600 and private schools are getting Latin. There's been a resurgence 226 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:36.799 in people seeing the value of it, but a lot 227 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:39.120 of adults did not get that in school. And I 228 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:42.559 would love to expand people's Latin knowledge and allow them 229 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:45.559 to access these great works of Western tradition for themselves 230 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.120 and come face to face with these authors and be 231 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:49.600 able to read it for themselves. 232 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:54.279 Well, I mean, we have translations, right, and so what's 233 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:58.519 the benefit of actually reading it first in Well, actually. 234 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.120 We only have translations for just small percentage of the 235 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.720 texts that are out there. But certainly reading through a 236 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:06.519 translation is kind of like reading through a veil. Certainly 237 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:08.320 there are some popular works where it the translation will 238 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:11.320 be pretty accurate, But actually studying the language itself, especially 239 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:14.159 with poetry, I would say, is very valuable and it's 240 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:17.159 going to it's going to be a transformative experience. You know, 241 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:20.200 it's more than just the actual information, but coming face 242 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:22.200 to face with the authors and what they've written themselves 243 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.440 is very valuable. And it's hard to describe to someone 244 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:26.639 who's never done this before, but if you've ever studied 245 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:30.480 a language, you know that reading something in the original 246 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.799 language is a very powerful and different experience than just 247 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:36.080 reading a translation, especially when it comes to poetry. 248 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.879 Yeah, that's very true. I'm not proficient in Latin, so 249 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.279 I myself look forward to going along with this course. 250 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:48.360 I took a semester in college just because I needed 251 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.480 some elective credits, and so I decided to go with Latin. 252 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:53.440 I'd already fulfilled my language credits elsewhere, so I definitely 253 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:55.120 look forward to honing in on that. But I mean, 254 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:57.879 I can speak from studying other languages, you know. I 255 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:03.240 did Greek and Hebrew in seminary, and there's just there's 256 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:07.519 a different way of thinking within the language that you're 257 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:11.919 dealing with, and that can't always be It actually really 258 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:16.960 can't be completely translated into another language. Meaning worldview ways 259 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:19.559 of reasoning are built into the language itself, and so 260 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:23.039 there's so much value in getting past that veil, you know, 261 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:27.240 as you said, to coming face to face with what 262 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:31.879 was actually said in the way of thinking of the culture. 263 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:36.320 And so yeah, absolutely sympathize with that. So who should 264 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:37.240 sign up for this course? 265 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.519 Okay, Well, this course is really open to anyone who 266 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:42.759 has an interest, but I think I especially have in 267 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:46.000 mind people who, you know, they're past their college years 268 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:49.279 and they have an interest in studying Latin. Maybe they 269 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:52.480 want to be able to read some of these texts 270 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.840 in the original language. Maybe they have kids who are 271 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:56.679 in a class school in private school learning Latin, and 272 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:58.799 they want to catch up and keep up with their 273 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:00.639 kids and be able to help them. I think this 274 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:03.919 course would be a great option for those people. But honestly, 275 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:06.759 anyone who has an interest in studying Latin, just at 276 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:09.919 an introductory level and getting that that headstart they need 277 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:13.360 to embark on their Latin journey is welcome. 278 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:13.879 To join this course. 279 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.879 Good fantastic, Judah, Josh, do you have any thoughts? Three 280 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:20.480 questions for handa on that? 281 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:26.440 Oh, this isn't too loaded of a question, but if 282 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:29.679 it is, can you give me, like, like a two 283 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:34.159 minute or less summary of your opinions on the like 284 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:38.279 the grammar translate method of learning versus the naturalized method 285 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:40.879 of learning. I've like right into this, so I'm just 286 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:42.000 curious what you think of that. 287 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:45.480 Yes, so I haven't done like a ton of research, 288 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:47.360 but from my experience of how I've been taught and 289 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:47.840 how I'm. 290 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:49.799 Teaching it, I taking a balanced approach. 291 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:52.759 So I believe that what you can do is have 292 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:58.440 that learning from you know, reading, listening speaking grow naturally 293 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:01.840 alongside actual grammar instruction. I find that both are helpful 294 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:04.559 because obviously there's some people who just want to teach 295 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:07.320 thought and straight from a textbook. And first of all, 296 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.799 there's that's not very much fun for students, especially if 297 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:14.120 you're teaching middle schoolers, elementary schoolers, high schoolers. But also 298 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:16.639 it kind of ignores the way that we learn language, 299 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:19.039 because people think, oh, work, it's a dead language, no 300 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:22.799 one speaks it anymore, So why should we speak Latin 301 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.480 class Why should we listen to it? Why should we, 302 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.759 you know, try try to read it rather than just translating. 303 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:31.559 And I would say that that kind of ignores the 304 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:34.039 way that humans learn language. And so I do think 305 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:36.399 that that is a great thing to incorporate into the classroom, 306 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:39.200 lots of spoken la and lots of listening exercises. 307 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:41.519 But I also think that, you know, not everyone. 308 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.200 I'd say most students are not going to necessarily be 309 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:46.960 able to pick up on everything and all the nuances 310 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.919 of Latin grammar just from picking it up by listening. 311 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:53.000 I do think in a classroom setting, especially, it's good 312 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:56.240 to actually provide formal grammar instruction and provide the basic 313 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:01.240 rules so that people, you know, not everyone is linguistically 314 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.879 gifted enough, just pick up on that, especially when you're 315 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:05.679 just in a classroom setting and you're not fully immersed 316 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:08.720 in the language. I'd say some grammar instruction is necessary 317 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:10.320 as well. So the way I'm teaching the course is 318 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:13.799 there will be grammar lessons and homework that's testing grammar concepts, 319 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:17.200 but there's also going to be different projects that are 320 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:20.240 going to involve speaking and writing. They'll be like weekly stories, 321 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:23.360 while I'll be reading out stories and helping people work 322 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:26.080 through and translate and other things like that to help 323 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.879 provide a balanced approach between actual grammatical instruction, but then 324 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:34.200 also having people practice use the language, which will help 325 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.679 them hopefully retain those concepts and be able to translate 326 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:39.279 and read better. So that's kind of where I stand. 327 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:41.600 I know it's kind of a middle ground position, but 328 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:43.759 I see the benefits of both sides. 329 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:47.159 Yeah, I like that answer a lot. I usually find 330 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:49.639 myself in the middle and in a more balanced view 331 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.080 on that and most things as well, so I appreciate 332 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:56.440 that answer. Plus, we can all be you know, Michael Monte, 333 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:00.639 and then just have our dads servant just speak to 334 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:03.360 us in Latin only until we're eighteen years old. I 335 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:05.039 don't have any servants, by the way, I don't know 336 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:05.599 about you all. 337 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:08.400 Yeah, I would say it would take a lot of 338 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:12.319 effort and something a lot more than this course could 339 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:16.400 offer to have a full immersion experience. Obviously, there's conferences 340 00:17:16.440 --> 00:17:18.240 you could go to where people will just speak Latin 341 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:20.720 and some really cool things. But you know, I do 342 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:22.880 think just to be practical in the modern world, there 343 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:24.759 is going to have to be some level of grammar 344 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:27.880 instruction because we don't have a bunch of servants speaking 345 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:29.440 just Latin to us. 346 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:31.119 Yeah. 347 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:34.759 Finally, yeah, we'll hold off for our study of broad 348 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:38.599 trip at the Vatican or something. I don't know. Yes, 349 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.160 you kind of hinted at this, But what's the week 350 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:44.720 to week flow of your course look like? 351 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:49.440 Okay, awesome, So let's just go over a brief isshion 352 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:53.759 overview of what each week will include. So every week 353 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:56.680 we'll have a main grammar video all the presentation. I'll 354 00:17:56.680 --> 00:17:59.480 also work through some examples in that video, and then 355 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:01.400 there'll be a history or culture video. 356 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:02.519 Which I'm very excited about. 357 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:07.240 It'll usually alternate every week like culture history, and I've 358 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:10.319 tried to target to line up the history and culture 359 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:12.799 with the vocabulary as much as I can, because I 360 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:15.920 like to have every week have some sort of overarching 361 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:19.960 theme or topic. Didn't always line up perfectly, but just 362 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:22.559 for the sake of everyone out there, if you want 363 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:24.880 to know what the history and culture videos are, we're 364 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:27.920 gonna have. Our history videos will be ROMs Founding Mythology, 365 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:32.319 Rome's Kings, the Roman Republic, Roman Empire Part one, Roman 366 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.720 Empire Part two, and the Fall of Rome, and then 367 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.480 our culture will be first of all, just an introductory 368 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:40.400 presentation why Latin is valuable, which I've gotten to some 369 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:42.640 of that in this, but I go into more depth, 370 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:46.400 both quantitative and qualitative reasons why it's worth studying. And 371 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:49.799 then Latin phrase is common in English, Roman names, the 372 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:53.799 Roman household, the most mayorum, and Roman social norms, and 373 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:56.440 then famous Roman authors. So just trying to give a 374 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.720 little overview of Roman history and culture. Obviously all these things, 375 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.440 every presentation topic could really be its own course or 376 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:08.119 area of study, but I want to give people an overview. 377 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:09.920 And that's how I learned Latin. Obviously I did it 378 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:11.960 in a high school setting, so you know, it was 379 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:14.440 kind of woven into the curriculum of learning about Roman 380 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:16.680 culture and history, and I think it's just valuable to 381 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:19.079 equip people because you can't assume that everyone has had 382 00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:21.680 that knowledge. I certainly learned a lot when I took 383 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:24.119 Latin in high school about Roman history and culture that 384 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:26.319 I didn't know, and that really helped me to approach 385 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:29.079 the authors better. And I think that that is a 386 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:32.359 valuable part of the course. So then in addition to those, 387 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:36.160 every week we'll have a vocabulary video. There'll be a 388 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:39.000 weekly vocabulist, and I'll actually have a video reading through 389 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:41.039 it so people will know how to pronounce the words, 390 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:44.319 and I'll also just talk about any English words that 391 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:47.119 might be derived to help people remember. And then I'll 392 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:49.480 also have like a quizlet, which is basically just digital 393 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:52.200 flash cards so people don't have to spend time working 394 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:52.519 on that. 395 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:54.319 And then there'll be a. 396 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:57.359 Live meeting every week for questions and discussion. And there'll 397 00:19:57.359 --> 00:20:00.720 also be like a weekly project. The first weeks, because 398 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:02.920 people won't know enough to really write much. It'll be 399 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:05.839 something fun like cook a Roman recipe or label a 400 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:09.519 Roman home drawing. But then later on it'll be some 401 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:13.200