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<v Speaker 2>My name is Heidi and my husband's name is Eric,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've been out in the woods all our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>My father taught us how to pick fiddleheads and just

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<v Speaker 2>showed us everything. Which plants tastes like mint, which plants

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<v Speaker 2>taste like bayberry. So we've been out in the woods

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<v Speaker 2>all our lives. Eric is an avid hunter, which he

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you about. And we recently, I'm saying recently

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<v Speaker 2>because we're in our sixties, so recently, within the last

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years, got into bigfooting because well it was intriguing

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<v Speaker 2>and we've had many experiences. The first I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you at our house down south, which is in southern

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<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire, which is in a very there's neighbors, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of neighbors, but we're also our backyard is

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<v Speaker 2>we're in a back law and it's surrounded by conservation land,

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<v Speaker 2>telephone poles. There are apple orchards, they're pumpkins there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a huge farming community. And in nineteen seventy six

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<v Speaker 2>there was an incident written up in the local newspaper

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<v Speaker 2>about a sasquatch rocking a trailer and they were actual footprints,

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen inch footprints found in nineteen seventy six not too

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<v Speaker 2>far from our house, local flea market, at a local

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<v Speaker 2>flea market. And so we've been into looking and big

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<v Speaker 2>footing ever since, you know, we found out about that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's we thought it was fun at first, but

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<v Speaker 2>now we know it's not fun. It's they're real and

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<v Speaker 2>they're virtually everywhere. We've had several experiences at our house

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<v Speaker 2>down south in southern New Hampshire. I mean you can

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<v Speaker 2>see your neighbor and we've had issues a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a telephone pole. Our driveway is about a

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<v Speaker 2>football field long and it's surrounded by there's this big

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<v Speaker 2>area of rush and trees and it's just dark and

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<v Speaker 2>wooded and you have to go through that to come

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<v Speaker 2>to the house, which is cleared, and in that part

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<v Speaker 2>there is a telephone pole. With all of our electronics

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<v Speaker 2>all over internet everything. It's been ripped off three times.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time it's like, well, you know, maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was a bear. Second time, the person came out and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, I don't think it was a bear. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you might have an neighbor that doesn't like you because

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<v Speaker 2>he's ripping off the box and it's not. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>claw marks, there's nothing there. And we're like, well, it

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<v Speaker 2>can't be our neighbors, because we know our neighbors. We

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<v Speaker 2>have barbecues with our neighbors. We like our neighbors, they

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<v Speaker 2>like us, and our neighbors are kind of at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>they were very elderly, so there's no way they'd be

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<v Speaker 2>going through the brush to get to that transition box.

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<v Speaker 2>And the third time it happened, the tech was so

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<v Speaker 2>unnerved by it, i say, or upset by it, or

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<v Speaker 2>he was just kind of he was confused. He waited

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<v Speaker 2>for me to come home after work to show me

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<v Speaker 2>that the box had been taken off. And there's still

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<v Speaker 2>no explanation for that. There's no explanation for that. And

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<v Speaker 2>since then we put on a lock box and a

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<v Speaker 2>big thing that you would have to really go through.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd have to have a special tool to get that off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you need a crowbar, you need a crowbar. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>since then it hasn't happened. Another thing that happened down

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<v Speaker 2>there was the kids around us. Because there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>property in the back and it's conservation language, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they shouldn't be riding their bikes on, but they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They have you know, cross bikes and motor bikes and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, and they would ride back there, which was

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<v Speaker 2>fine because they kept the trails clean, so we could

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<v Speaker 2>go back there. And they called us one time and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, why did you put a log across the trails?

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<v Speaker 2>And we're like, we didn't put a log across the

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<v Speaker 2>trails and they're like, well, there's a log across the trails.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a bit I had to use an excavator

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<v Speaker 3>to move the log.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was a big log, and.

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<v Speaker 3>So there was no evidence of routage. It just appeared

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<v Speaker 3>they hadn't just fallen down. It didn't belong there. And

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<v Speaker 3>now we're estimate the way that that a tree. Actually

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<v Speaker 3>it was probably about four or six hundred pounds to

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<v Speaker 3>get it out of the trail. So that was fairly bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the other things that happened. I would

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<v Speaker 2>have to get up about three o'clock in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>to go to work. So it was about three thirty am,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a jeep and it was beautiful weather,

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<v Speaker 2>so I had the top down on it and I

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<v Speaker 2>got to that grove of trees in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the driveway and I just I got so scared. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't explain it. I was just like my heart left.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was like all I could feel was

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<v Speaker 2>in my imagination or whatever, is like this hand coming

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<v Speaker 2>down and back of me trying to grab me out

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<v Speaker 2>of the jeep. I was so scared at that point

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<v Speaker 2>that I hunched over. I hunched over the wheel, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like oooh, you know, I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>was I couldn't breathe. And then by the time I

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<v Speaker 2>got to the road, I like I punched it. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I like punched it and I was gone. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was probably two miles down the road before I

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<v Speaker 2>could actually catch my breath and go oooh. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was just extremely scary. I mean, it stays with me

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<v Speaker 2>because there's no reason, I mean, I've been in that

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<v Speaker 2>house for ten years. There's no reason for me to

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<v Speaker 2>be that extremely scared to like hunch over my wheel

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<v Speaker 2>and get out of there as fast as I could.

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<v Speaker 2>But those are the things that happened, and these are

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<v Speaker 2>the things that happened before we really got into sass watching,

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<v Speaker 2>before we really believed they were just arbitrary things that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of led to us to believe in these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was a time when I was throwing

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<v Speaker 2>the ball for the dog and there's trails around our house, granted,

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<v Speaker 2>and something ran.

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<v Speaker 4>It just it was just ran. It was just fast.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like black and it just it was like fast.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like a shadow, but it was fast. And

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<v Speaker 4>I had to stop and like, did I just see something?

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, that was not a deer. It

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<v Speaker 4>was no way was that a deer? And the bears

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<v Speaker 4>cannot move that fast. And I saw it. I know

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<v Speaker 4>I saw it. And then I mentioned it to my husband.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, oh, yeah, I've seen things like that back there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, it would have helped you if you

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<v Speaker 2>had told me. So we've had several experiences. So my

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<v Speaker 2>takeaway from that is I would like everybody that's listening

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<v Speaker 2>to understand that they are not just in the deep woods.

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<v Speaker 2>They are not They are closer than you think they

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<v Speaker 2>are because they're there. I don't know how else to

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<v Speaker 2>explain it. But they're there. And if you know what

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<v Speaker 2>to look for, and if you believe that you see

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<v Speaker 2>what you see, then you'll know. I guess that sounds stupid,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know whatever. So then we have several experiences

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<v Speaker 2>up here at our other house which we're moving to,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more experiences and yeah, so I'll let my

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<v Speaker 2>husband go into that.

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<v Speaker 3>So both properties that we own went one souther and

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<v Speaker 3>the answer one up and mean, both very wooded back lots.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing behind the one up and mean there's probably

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<v Speaker 3>six seven hundred acre is behind us and both properties

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<v Speaker 3>I've hunted religiously. I have true stands down south. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got three stands within ice the ice eide of the house,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've been, they've been, They've produced a lot of deer.

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<v Speaker 3>And the twenty five years that we've been there, and

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<v Speaker 3>the amount of time I've spent in the woods hunting

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<v Speaker 3>my younger years, I I've never encountered. Let's assquatch. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I knew about them, you know, from from the

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<v Speaker 3>seventies shows back in the day with London Nimoy. I've

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<v Speaker 3>heard about him, but it's never really on the back

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<v Speaker 3>of my mind until we I guess it was enlightened

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<v Speaker 3>probably about ten fifteen years ago. We bought the property

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<v Speaker 3>up in Maine, and we've belonged to a couple of chapters,

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<v Speaker 3>and we've done a couple of overnight excursions. And because

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<v Speaker 3>we've had some some odde stuff happen up here, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, things that you pass off, and now that

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<v Speaker 3>you're aware of what you're looking for and what you're

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<v Speaker 3>listening for, it opens up a whole new avenue. We

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<v Speaker 3>have a three season porch up here in Maine. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>sit out here till midnight. Some nights we have the

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<v Speaker 3>parabolics and whatnot. For some nights you don't even need

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<v Speaker 3>a parabolic. I've recorded vocalizations. I've sat in my chair

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<v Speaker 3>here and weard a couple of holes across the street,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was able to capture the third one. I

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<v Speaker 3>grabbed my phone once I realized what was going on,

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<v Speaker 3>I grabbed my phone, jumped off the porch, and clearly

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<v Speaker 3>got a vocalization across the street. And across the street.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes on forever. There's a river down there and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, we're up here in the mountain,

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<v Speaker 3>so you get a lot of reburb So we do,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, my son, he's in his twenties. We

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<v Speaker 3>do a lot of fishing, a lot of hiking, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of hunting together. And my wife is she's avid. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get around as much as I used to

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<v Speaker 3>these days, but I still enjoy the wilderness. My son

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<v Speaker 3>and I were all fishing one time and we were

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<v Speaker 3>right off side of the road, basically right off the pavement.

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<v Speaker 3>Truck was, you know, two tires were on a pavement

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<v Speaker 3>to were off and my son walked up the river,

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<v Speaker 3>probably about one hundred yards up the road from me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just throwing a couple of layers into the

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<v Speaker 3>stream and out of nowhere. This was late August. There

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't a breath of air to be had, there was

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<v Speaker 3>no windage at all, and this log came flying and

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<v Speaker 3>it was probably about a hundred one hundred yards from

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<v Speaker 3>me and it made a splash down it. It was

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<v Speaker 3>right on the corner of the river, and my son,

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<v Speaker 3>who was one hundred yards away, it's like, Dad, you're okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like I used to yell that, like dude,

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<v Speaker 3>we gotta go, we gotta go now. It was big.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the weight it was. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>stick around to wait to see, but things like that was.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've had beaver tails slapping at me, you

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<v Speaker 3>know when they get upset when you're out there fishing,

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<v Speaker 3>when that come around, if they don't want any of

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<v Speaker 3>that hut, they'll do the splash and you know, that

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<v Speaker 3>was originally what I thought it was. But you could

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<v Speaker 3>clearly hear this and coming through the trees, So that

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<v Speaker 3>was That was one of the first times I really

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<v Speaker 3>got close to one, and that really really woke us up.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had, like I said, I've had vocalizations on the porch.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had my buddy we set out here and it

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<v Speaker 3>winter time and we used to do vocals off the

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<v Speaker 3>porch at night. We do howls and wait for callbacks

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, sometimes you hit, sometimes you don't. But

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<v Speaker 3>one time it was winter, it was January, it was cold,

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<v Speaker 3>and I got three callbacks. There's a metal uh probably

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<v Speaker 3>about three hundred yards across away from the porch. There

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<v Speaker 3>were three definitive callbacks that literally my buddy and I

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<v Speaker 3>we we we was right, went back in the house

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<v Speaker 3>and he looked me. I looked at him. I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll good we'll go back in the house. We've had

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing, my wife and I. It was probably

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<v Speaker 3>the first callback we've ever had. We first started doing

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<v Speaker 3>the howls, we did one off the porch and the

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<v Speaker 3>immediately got a call back right in the backyard, and

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<v Speaker 3>so we don't do howls off the porch anymore. According

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<v Speaker 3>to my wife is like, we're not doing that anymore

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<v Speaker 3>around the house because they're there. We were up one day,

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<v Speaker 3>uh fishing on a mountain pond. It's a beautiful, beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>trop pond, all native fish is nobody literally four miles

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<v Speaker 3>up off of it's a beaten path. You need fool

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<v Speaker 3>a map. You wouldn't know it was there if we

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<v Speaker 3>weren't looking for it. So we we found it, We

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<v Speaker 3>located it, and we were up there doing that whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried throwing a couple of lores, and we just

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<v Speaker 3>took some random pictures, you know, across the lake whatnot not,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, nothing suspicious at all. And we get this

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<v Speaker 3>habit now where we take the photos, we take them

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<v Speaker 3>back to the house and we'll plug them into the

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<v Speaker 3>widescreen TV and then well then it we'll start dissecting him.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems to be very productive. Every time we we uh,

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<v Speaker 3>we take random photographs. It doesn't matter where you are, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>just off the beaten path. And nine of our photographs

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<v Speaker 3>that we've gotten captains on we're standing beside a vehicle. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>off a logging road, a fire road. You named her.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we're miles off the beaten path, but we're

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<v Speaker 3>we're still on the blogging road. Uh. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get around too well. I've got a bad

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<v Speaker 3>hip now, I've had a hip and placement. We're in

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<v Speaker 3>our sixties, so hiking and hunting is kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>chore now. So most of our success has been right

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<v Speaker 3>out of the vehicles. So one day we were at

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<v Speaker 3>that mountain pond and we took a couple of random

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<v Speaker 3>shots across the lake just for whatever reason. Got home.

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<v Speaker 3>We're looking at him, and I've got these on my

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<v Speaker 3>camera and I've I've actually posted him on several websites.

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<v Speaker 3>And in the bottom of the photo on the right

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<v Speaker 3>hand side is a black bear on the far shore

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<v Speaker 3>that I would destimate about two hundred pounds. Different take.

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<v Speaker 3>He's sitting down, but I'd say he's probably about four

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<v Speaker 3>and a half four and a half in the sitting

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<v Speaker 3>position tall. And then to the left, about sixty eighty

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<v Speaker 3>feet away from him, right at the edge of the

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<v Speaker 3>tree line, there was a figure and I would say

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<v Speaker 3>it looking in the bear sitting there staring back at

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<v Speaker 3>this figure, and I would say it was probably two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred yards across the lake. When you say approximately, I

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<v Speaker 3>would put this figure in about ten to eleven feet tall,

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<v Speaker 3>approximately set. I mean, he's barrel chested. I've got it.

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<v Speaker 3>We all, well, you get the perfect outline, chronicle head

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<v Speaker 3>you name it. Uh, proportionally taller on the top end,

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<v Speaker 3>shorter on the bottom end, long arms, long arms, down

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<v Speaker 3>town down to about his kneecast. His legs look kind

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<v Speaker 3>of dysfunctional because he's he's shorter on the but shorter

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<v Speaker 3>on the legs, and he is on the upper on

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<v Speaker 3>the upper barrel of his chest. Uh, he's staring at

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<v Speaker 3>the bear. The bear is not moving in the photograph.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, we didn't see that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when we took the photo. We didn't. We didn't see

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<v Speaker 3>it that we caught. We captured one other photo of

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<v Speaker 3>that day too, I believe in the tree lane. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we did but that was a chronicle. Uh So now

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<v Speaker 3>we've we've been experienced, exposed, we've learned, we've studied. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>we know what to look for. Now, Like you take

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<v Speaker 3>a random shot, you won't see nothing, but then you

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<v Speaker 3>start looking for the dark shadows, and then you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of zoom in on, you'll see the chronicle head. Every time,

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<v Speaker 3>dead getaway is the eyebrow. The brow right above the

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<v Speaker 3>the eyes is a dead giveaway. You'll have the h

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lighter, a grayish color compared to the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the body.

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<v Speaker 2>So at the same time, on these logging roads that

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<v Speaker 2>we were on, we have a picture of a and

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<v Speaker 2>anybody that looks at it, sometimes they can see pictures,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes they can't. But this one is a real definitive

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<v Speaker 2>picture of a face of a young Sasasquatch. You know

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<v Speaker 2>it was young because it was very small. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say probably the head might have been two feet and

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<v Speaker 2>it was very round, very floppy, and it's it was

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<v Speaker 2>underneath the trees, so it was on the ground, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was definitely looking at us. It was really there

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<v Speaker 2>looking at us.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>About fifteen feet away from us. And then yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was there and then we all always had the

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<v Speaker 2>I always had the feeling that they that they were there,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you get this feeling like you know, it's a tingle,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and they know you're there. You know they're there,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes you can get pictures of them and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you can't. There was a time when we brought up

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<v Speaker 2>our brother and sister in law, and they're much more

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<v Speaker 2>nimble than to say the least, and they were going

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<v Speaker 2>around and investigating parts that we couldn't get to. And

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<v Speaker 2>I got the distinct distinct.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that the day we called them back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was the day we called them back. I

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<v Speaker 2>got the distinct feeling that all I heard I heard

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<v Speaker 2>this in my head is like, Okay, you're annoying, now leave.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't take a second. I'm like, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like we got to go. So we called them back

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<v Speaker 2>and we left during that time. And I think you've

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<v Speaker 2>had other people that will say this. I was following

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<v Speaker 2>my brother in law down this off there this There

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<v Speaker 2>was this area where there were crosses and broken limbs

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<v Speaker 2>and just signs, just signs everywhere about SaaS watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I would just jump in quickly. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>same area where the Mountain Pond. Uh, there's a four

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<v Speaker 3>or five mile Roden Loggin road. And I would almost

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<v Speaker 3>say from what my wife was just saying, that there

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<v Speaker 3>was two different tribes in that area, two different plans,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to call them. Uh, one on the

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<v Speaker 3>lower end and one on the upper end.

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<v Speaker 2>UH.

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<v Speaker 3>Only because as you drive up these roads, you look

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<v Speaker 3>and you'll see the traditional uh access of a tree. UH.

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<v Speaker 3>And I so I guess from what I understand, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a barrier says do not cross. And we had them

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<v Speaker 3>on the bottom half, and we have on the top half,

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<v Speaker 3>and we've have evidence of we've had footprints photographed on

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<v Speaker 3>both on top and bottom. We put beads out, glass

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<v Speaker 3>beads on rocks and have them switched around, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>gone back two or three days later. The fruit they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't touch. The watermelon we put watermelon out. Watermelon was

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<v Speaker 3>not touched, but the rocks had all been moved to

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<v Speaker 3>all the glass beads and very a lot of just

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of activity in this one particular area, and

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<v Speaker 3>with the trees being crossed, and just yeah, we've actually

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<v Speaker 3>my wife has got a photograph of a young one

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<v Speaker 3>up in a pine tree, probably about fifteen feet up

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<v Speaker 3>in the tree watching us. We didn't know was there

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<v Speaker 3>until we got home and dissected. So this area particularly

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<v Speaker 3>is like one of our favorite hout squads. But the

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<v Speaker 3>river got washed out took the bridge out a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years back. We have not yet. They don't get

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<v Speaker 3>back up there, and it was one of our favorite

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<v Speaker 3>places ago and we've had every time we go up there,

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<v Speaker 3>it never disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>One time I was following my brother in law through

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<v Speaker 2>this it was a walking trail, you know, nothing like

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<v Speaker 2>a trail, trail, not maintained. It was either a deer

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<v Speaker 2>trail or anyway you could walk it. And there's this

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<v Speaker 2>culvert to my left and there was a big black

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<v Speaker 2>rock down there, which okay, it's a big black rock.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was a bug on my leg and

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<v Speaker 2>I went to swat it, just like lookdown, went to

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<v Speaker 2>swat it. I looked back and the rock was gone,

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<v Speaker 2>gone gone. I'm like, well, okay, time to go back.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so we've had a lot of experiences in

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<v Speaker 2>that one particular area. And then we went down to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the road wash out where the bridge was.

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<v Speaker 2>Bridge was washed out, and we were just making random

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<v Speaker 2>pictures because it's kind of cool to see what nature

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<v Speaker 2>did and wash out. And sure enough we got home

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<v Speaker 2>just looking at the pictures, not thinking anything of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a face looking at us from that area.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing about that face is it's not too

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<v Speaker 2>different from the face that we have from a photo

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<v Speaker 2>in the backyard. So yeah, that was kind of makes

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<v Speaker 2>you go, huh. They do say they follow you. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>after we go out to one of these places, we

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<v Speaker 2>always take the long way home. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it matters or not, but we always take the long

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<v Speaker 2>way home. Doesn't seem to matter, but that's our experience

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<v Speaker 2>out there. It's just been at that at that pond

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<v Speaker 2>was I think my first experience seeing a bigfoot in

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<v Speaker 2>real life, like in real life, but it was across

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<v Speaker 2>the pond and it was huge. It was as big

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<v Speaker 2>as a tree. It was huge, and it was black,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was I think they were trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of us. I think it was they were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to walk us out or whatever. And it was jumping,

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<v Speaker 2>or it wasn't jumping. It was going from tree to tree,

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<v Speaker 2>like behind tree tree, so you could just see it.

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<v Speaker 2>You could just see it and it would go behind

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<v Speaker 2>another tree, and then it was it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of wild. It was like it was really wild.

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<v Speaker 2>It was there and it wasn't It wasn't even trying

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<v Speaker 2>to hide. Really, it was just going from tree to

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<v Speaker 2>tree and it was huge. And uh. We have a

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<v Speaker 2>photo just down the road where we call the First Clan,

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<v Speaker 2>not the Upper Clan, so the First Clan, and our

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<v Speaker 2>friend was walking down the road and I took a

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<v Speaker 2>picture of him because I wanted to scale how bad

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<v Speaker 2>the road had washed out with it on both sides

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<v Speaker 2>and on the very top. And I cannot explain this.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot explain this. I'm not a tech person. On

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the photo is a face. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>real face of I'm gonna say, a sasquatch, a monkey man.

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<v Speaker 2>It is right there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like traditionale.

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<v Speaker 2>How the heck you know? I mean, that is not

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's nothing that you can imagine. It's right there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a face.

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<v Speaker 3>So at this mountain pond there is an old fishing shack,

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<v Speaker 3>just just a shelter from the weather. I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing major. It's probably built in the fifties, just now

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<v Speaker 3>since removed. But it's odd because the trail goes down

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<v Speaker 3>to the backside of the lake. It's you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>can get a truck down there if you don't care

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<v Speaker 3>about your paint. But it's weird because they were like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe chairs or people would sit and fish at one

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<v Speaker 3>point in time. And to the back, probably about fifty

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<v Speaker 3>feet into the tree line on the side of the trail,

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<v Speaker 3>there's all scrub pine, just you know, quarner in, just

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<v Speaker 3>young pine trees and they're all the whole road for

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<v Speaker 3>about fifteen feet the whole top. Like if you're if

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<v Speaker 3>you were to go hunting and you would sit down

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<v Speaker 3>the woods, you you would snap trees off around so

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<v Speaker 3>you get a shooting lane, you know, a vision. And

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00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.640
<v Speaker 3>this is exactly what this was like. For about fifteen feet.

417
00:24:57.720 --> 00:24:59.680
<v Speaker 3>All the trees have been snapped off at the top

418
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:03.039
<v Speaker 3>of all four feet off the ground and all right, okay,

419
00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I could see maybe somebody would be hunting would do

420
00:25:06.039 --> 00:25:09.319
<v Speaker 3>the same thing. But it's you overlook in the lake.

421
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:11.599
<v Speaker 3>The lake is about twenty feet up. You know, there's

422
00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:14.440
<v Speaker 3>a there's a there's a shed or a shack, and

423
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.119
<v Speaker 3>then there's a lake. So you have maybe thirty feet

424
00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:20.720
<v Speaker 3>You're not gonna see many game animals so I thought

425
00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:23.599
<v Speaker 3>it was odd, uh that something would actually snap off

426
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:26.200
<v Speaker 3>all these tree limbs, almost like it was something sitting

427
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:28.640
<v Speaker 3>there observing who was in the shed at one point

428
00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 3>in time. A little creepy, uh. But after we looked

429
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.839
<v Speaker 3>at it and like, this is not normal. No, it

430
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:38.240
<v Speaker 3>was not normal. And they weren't cut with a shedy

431
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:42.119
<v Speaker 3>that was snapped broken off, and there were still brown

432
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.200
<v Speaker 3>needles on the tree, so had not been that long ago.

433
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:49.559
<v Speaker 3>But this this area is very active from what and

434
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:52.200
<v Speaker 3>it really upsets the fact that we I mean I

435
00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:54.720
<v Speaker 3>have access, I have four wheels and whatnot, but I

436
00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:55.920
<v Speaker 3>don't even know if I can get up there to

437
00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:58.680
<v Speaker 3>four wheels since the bridge get washed out. And it's

438
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:01.960
<v Speaker 3>really Uh, we were doing an overnight investigation at the

439
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:05.319
<v Speaker 3>bottom half about three three years ago. Two or three

440
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:07.359
<v Speaker 3>years ago, we were doing an overnight investigation. We were

441
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:09.640
<v Speaker 3>really wanted to get up to the pond, but we couldn't,

442
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:11.960
<v Speaker 3>so we said, well, we'll set up here and you know,

443
00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:14.480
<v Speaker 3>we'll just doing an investigation from down here. And this

444
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:18.240
<v Speaker 3>guy comes through with a Jeep seventy nine Golden Eagle,

445
00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:21.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean classic classic Jeep forty four is on it.

446
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:23.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean just the thing was meant to be where

447
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:25.480
<v Speaker 3>it was, and the guy, like I said, you're not

448
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:27.000
<v Speaker 3>going to have any luck with that jeep getting up

449
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:29.839
<v Speaker 3>that trail. He goes, I'll find out for myself. I'm like, you,

450
00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:33.000
<v Speaker 3>not yourself out, and I'll say it. Within a half

451
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:34.880
<v Speaker 3>an hour after he got off the rocks, he came

452
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:36.559
<v Speaker 3>back through his say, yeah, we're not getting up that trail.

453
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:40.960
<v Speaker 3>So it's kind there is a walking trail to give

454
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:42.799
<v Speaker 3>him in the backside. My buddy and I have been

455
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 3>all over that mountain with a jeep and we cannot

456
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:47.359
<v Speaker 3>find another way to get to that pond. And I'm

457
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:52.200
<v Speaker 3>not able to walk four miles up there. But where

458
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.519
<v Speaker 3>we have where we are here in May, we've had

459
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:58.319
<v Speaker 3>a lot of activity. We were my wife and I

460
00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:01.000
<v Speaker 3>were sitting out here just last summer. Uh sitting on

461
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 3>a porch. It's three season windowed porch and uh, just

462
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.160
<v Speaker 3>sitting here mine O business, playing on Facebook, I guess.

463
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 3>And next thing you know, it is rock It's the house.

464
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Sounded like a gun.

465
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't know how I didn't break a window.

466
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:17.880
<v Speaker 3>I really, I'll be honest with My wife got up

467
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:22.359
<v Speaker 3>and screamed at it. Whatever it was left. But I

468
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:26.440
<v Speaker 3>mean we found a rock on the edge of the driveway.

469
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:30.200
<v Speaker 2>On lawn because because our where we are, there's a

470
00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:34.519
<v Speaker 2>lot of white sand beaches around the lakes and rivers

471
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 2>and our driveway is basically all sand. So finding a

472
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.599
<v Speaker 2>rock wasn't that hard. And it was a small rock,

473
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:46.359
<v Speaker 2>and uh I put it in our little garden on

474
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.440
<v Speaker 2>top of a big white rock that we had gotten

475
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 2>from western Massachusetts, and uh I put it on and

476
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:57.559
<v Speaker 2>it was gone the next day, and I found it

477
00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>and I put it back, and it was gone the

478
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.400
<v Speaker 2>next day and I found it and I put it

479
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:04.359
<v Speaker 2>back and it finally stayed. But I mean, it was

480
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:09.319
<v Speaker 2>not gone gone. It was just like a foot away

481
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>from the other rock, like it had been knocked off.

482
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:13.799
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think.

483
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:15.880
<v Speaker 3>The squirrel would have been no, and it's it's fenced

484
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 3>in anyway.

485
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was fenced in. So it was just weird

486
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:21.359
<v Speaker 2>and anyway, so we had the rock. But yeah, it

487
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 2>sounded like a gunshot. I am telling you it would.

488
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:29.359
<v Speaker 2>It was loud, loud, it had velocity and it was

489
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>not like a child. It was loud.

490
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:35.799
<v Speaker 3>So this is this is pretty cool. We came up

491
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 3>last week just before Fourth of July and I bought

492
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:43.480
<v Speaker 3>an American flag with a new flagpole to put on

493
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:45.920
<v Speaker 3>the porch, and so I did that. I think it

494
00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 3>was the day before fourth July, two days before, so

495
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 3>it was last week Wednesday, I guess. And I don't

496
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.799
<v Speaker 3>know if you've ever put a flag on a flagpole,

497
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 3>but the clips are unbearable. I have arthritis and my

498
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.119
<v Speaker 3>thing isn't It took me, I would say, good fifteen

499
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 3>minutes to get these grommets clipped onto the flag pole.

500
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:07.400
<v Speaker 3>It was a pain in the butt. And uh so

501
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I put it up. I screwed it on the side

502
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:10.359
<v Speaker 3>of the porch, and I was pretty happy with him.

503
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 3>I got no very patriotic and uh my wife got

504
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 3>up the next morning to let the dogs out and

505
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.319
<v Speaker 3>she's like, hey, if your flag's on the ground, She's like,

506
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 3>what could have flags on the ground. And I'm like,

507
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking maybe the wind tow of the fabric. And

508
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:28.599
<v Speaker 3>they flopped around and both clips were unclipped. Nothing was

509
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.119
<v Speaker 3>ripped on the flag whatsoever. And the flag was just

510
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 3>placed on the ground ripe below the flagpole. And there's

511
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:39.319
<v Speaker 3>no way because I put enough flag back up. I'm like,

512
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:42.400
<v Speaker 3>there's no way that thing, haymine clip And then oddly enough,

513
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 3>my wife's like, hey, come on and check the driveway.

514
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:46.160
<v Speaker 3>And we have a sand we have a dirt driveway,

515
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 3>and we had a footprint which I have photographed as well,

516
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:52.720
<v Speaker 3>a barefootprint.

517
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 2>You can pick out the toes.

518
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:57.960
<v Speaker 3>You could see the toes definitively see the toes, and

519
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 3>she marked the two unk owns. Looking at the footprint,

520
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.119
<v Speaker 3>it was a juvenile. It was maybe a little bit

521
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.200
<v Speaker 3>bigger than my foot, a little bit wider than my foot,

522
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 3>probably twelve thirteen uh and we've I have photographs of

523
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:19.039
<v Speaker 3>eighteen plus footprints. It was seven foot seven foot wide, uh.

524
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:20.759
<v Speaker 2>No seven foot span between.

525
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:25.319
<v Speaker 3>Sixty four inch span between footprints, so a heck of

526
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 3>a stride on the adults. This one, I would say

527
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.160
<v Speaker 3>it was just one definitive print before it got onto

528
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:35.880
<v Speaker 3>the lawn. But that was odd because it literally took

529
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:37.839
<v Speaker 3>me another twenty minutes put the flag back up on

530
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:40.279
<v Speaker 3>the hooks and there was nothing torn. It was nothing ripped.

531
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:43.240
<v Speaker 3>That wasn't that windy that would make that happen. So

532
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:47.240
<v Speaker 3>that was that's our latest experience.

533
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:54.839
<v Speaker 2>We've also had last year we had some experiences in

534
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:59.680
<v Speaker 2>the backyard I was, well, we put an apple out there,

535
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>because as honestly, you're not supposed to bath them, but

536
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever, we did. So we put it on

537
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:10.480
<v Speaker 2>an apple out there, and nothing ever touched it was

538
00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 2>on top of a canoe and nothing ever touched it,

539
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and it was starting to get rotten, and I'm like, well,

540
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't want it, you know, getting rotten on the

541
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>bottom of the canoe. So I picked it up. I

542
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>threw it into the woods, and the course of my

543
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>dog was like, oh, is not a ball, So he

544
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>was started to run after it. And when he ran

545
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 2>after it, there's a place in the woods about one

546
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:36.359
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty yards and there's somebody dumped an old

547
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 2>oil tank back there, and a tree went down, like

548
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:46.759
<v Speaker 2>a tree went down, like it went bang down. And

549
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>at that point I'm like, okay, let's go back. And

550
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 2>I called dog back, and he's a rottweiler, so you know,

551
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't matter because these things don't really care.

552
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:05.039
<v Speaker 2>And so I called him back. And then at that

553
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>night we were out and I'd say it was around

554
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock and we started taking pictures and we get

555
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:18.119
<v Speaker 2>a picture of an orb, a couple of orbs, and

556
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.119
<v Speaker 2>they were just like flying around. It was happened to

557
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.359
<v Speaker 2>be a full moment, and they were just like flying

558
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:27.599
<v Speaker 2>around and up and down all these crazy features. And

559
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 2>we took a couple of pictures that afternoon and you

560
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>can definitively see a face up in the up in

561
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the branches. It had to be about ten or twelve

562
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:47.279
<v Speaker 2>feet high, and it matched the photo that was taken

563
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:49.759
<v Speaker 2>down by the river that one time when we were

564
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>taking pictures of the wash out and my son saw

565
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:57.119
<v Speaker 2>it and he's like, well, that doesn't look like a

566
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 2>big but that looks more like a gnome because it's

567
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 2>very black and it's definitive and you can see the

568
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 2>nose and the eyes and you can see it's just there.

569
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:11.799
<v Speaker 2>You can see it, and it's watching us. And that

570
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 2>was an that was I guess the afternoon, because you

571
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>don't really take pictures at night. We don't really go

572
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 2>out at night too much because because I don't want to.

573
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.279
<v Speaker 2>And so we posted the pictures of the orb online

574
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>and somebody said, oh, that's a shine reflection of the

575
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:39.440
<v Speaker 2>moon is shine. So I froze the video and I

576
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:43.519
<v Speaker 2>blew it up, and that is not a reflection. It

577
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 2>has it is not a reflection. You have to see

578
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:52.319
<v Speaker 2>the picture. It was bouncing all around and it is

579
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 2>not is it has it almost looks metallic. It almost

580
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:05.200
<v Speaker 2>looks it's like it has two two eyes, not eyes,

581
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:09.599
<v Speaker 2>but two all right. So if you had fly eyes,

582
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:14.159
<v Speaker 2>because of all of the little capsules and everything in

583
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.400
<v Speaker 2>a fly's eyes, it looked like two flies eyes on

584
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:22.559
<v Speaker 2>a spear. And that is not a reflection of anything.

585
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:28.239
<v Speaker 2>So we've had that, and uh, always get the naysayers.

586
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:32.039
<v Speaker 2>And then one time when my husband was he was

587
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 2>in the hospital because he broke his hip. Well, the

588
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 2>dog broke his hip, and uh, I got home from

589
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:42.119
<v Speaker 2>the hospital late with my son because my son came

590
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 2>up to check on him. And I was out in

591
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the driveway and I have a special whistle for my dog.

592
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.039
<v Speaker 2>It's not because you know, sometimes you get these people

593
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.599
<v Speaker 2>there like, hey, I'll just whistle for the dog and

594
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:56.960
<v Speaker 2>they'll come to me. Well, so now we have a

595
00:34:56.960 --> 00:35:00.559
<v Speaker 2>special whistle, which is come. And I was out in

596
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 2>the yard and it was after nine o'clock at night,

597
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:05.440
<v Speaker 2>which I don't particularly like to go out at night,

598
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:12.400
<v Speaker 2>and I whistled for him, and something whistled back my whistle.

599
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 2>The whistle that I made, I mean the tomb that

600
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I made up, and I just like okay, and I

601
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>grabbed the dog and we both went in. And he

602
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't even like he's like no, I want to stay out. No,

603
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 2>he was like, okay, let's go in. And then yeah,

604
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.400
<v Speaker 2>and then I was out here on the porch one time,

605
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 2>and this is odd. I was just sitting here reading

606
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:45.639
<v Speaker 2>and I heard mommy and I'm like, oh, last weird

607
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.360
<v Speaker 2>and it went mommy, and I'm like, okay, it went

608
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 2>and then it started going momy, like it had two

609
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>different voices, like one was really deep and it went mommy,

610
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 2>and then it stopped and I was like, well that

611
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 2>that's really weird. And I went in and I was

612
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>like did you hear that? He was in the bathroom,

613
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:10.000
<v Speaker 2>which is right off the porch. I'm like, did you

614
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.280
<v Speaker 2>hear that? And he's like I did, but it wasn't

615
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 2>it was. He's just like, yeah, no, that wasn't natural. Now,

616
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>we've had mockingbirds, and mockingbirds are different. Mockingbirds are. We

617
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.360
<v Speaker 2>had a mocking bird that would say Eric, it'll go

618
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Eric here Eric, and it will be from one tree

619
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 2>to another tree to another tree, and you could hear it,

620
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:38.760
<v Speaker 2>and it was it was a mocking bird. This was

621
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:40.559
<v Speaker 2>not a mocking bird.

622
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:42.000
<v Speaker 3>This was.

623
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Just weird and unsettling because it went from mommy like

624
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 2>a child's voice to a mommy like a weird like

625
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.599
<v Speaker 2>like he couldn't control its voice or whatever.

626
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:57.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

627
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.119
<v Speaker 2>It was just very strange. So, yeah, we.

628
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.719
<v Speaker 3>Both are two different two different sides of the house,

629
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.559
<v Speaker 3>which is pretty odd.

630
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we've had a one night during the night

631
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:14.920
<v Speaker 2>that this is weird and I don't usually talk about this.

632
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 2>We were out there during the full moon when we

633
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.679
<v Speaker 2>were taking the pictures of the orb and everything, and

634
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:28.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a tree, very very tall pine tree, and the

635
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:32.480
<v Speaker 2>top is just by itself and you can see through

636
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:35.960
<v Speaker 2>the branches. It's a big pine tree. And I looked

637
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.840
<v Speaker 2>up there and there was something in the top of

638
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.719
<v Speaker 2>that pine tree. It was black and there was something

639
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.280
<v Speaker 2>in the top of that pine tree. And I called

640
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Eric and he doesn't move that fast, and I watched it.

641
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:53.840
<v Speaker 2>It went from black, like the whole top of the

642
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:56.280
<v Speaker 2>tree was black, like you couldn't see through it. It was black,

643
00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 2>and then it just like slowly phased out, like it

644
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 2>just phased out, like it went from black to now

645
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 2>you can see through all the train, you can see

646
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>the branches, and it was just extremely strange. And yeah,

647
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, yeah, there's weird things that happen up here

648
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.119
<v Speaker 2>all the time, and so yeah, we try not to

649
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:26.199
<v Speaker 2>go out at night, at least I try not to

650
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:30.199
<v Speaker 2>go out at night anymore. There was another time where

651
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>our dog, he's a rott Whiler, but you know, rott

652
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Wilers have many different personalities, and he's a baby, well

653
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 2>he's a baby, but he's incredibly protective. He just, yeah,

654
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:48.239
<v Speaker 2>we don't have neighbors come over unannounced. So there's this

655
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.840
<v Speaker 2>group of trees on the side of our driveway and

656
00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I've always felt odd about it. And sometimes it's like black,

657
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 2>like you can't see through it, like it's like really dense,

658
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 2>and other times you can see light through it. And

659
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 2>not long after we had the orbs and everything happened

660
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:19.039
<v Speaker 2>in the backyard. My dog, which is I don't know

661
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.599
<v Speaker 2>if you have dogs or not, but that's his poop

662
00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>area and he would go over there to poop, and

663
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:30.199
<v Speaker 2>he didn't. He stayed about twenty feet away, and if

664
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:33.519
<v Speaker 2>he was a pointer, he would have been pointing at it.

665
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:37.519
<v Speaker 2>His head was down he wasn't moving, he was just

666
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:43.000
<v Speaker 2>stopped still, just stopped, and just like stared and stared

667
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:50.199
<v Speaker 2>and stared at that particular group of thick trees. And yeah,

668
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.840
<v Speaker 2>so I kind of figured that there was something there

669
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>that maybe he shouldn't be getting into. And he kind

670
00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:59.760
<v Speaker 2>of thought the same thing too. So after a few

671
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:04.480
<v Speaker 2>minutes and I called him back and I'm like, yeah, yeah,

672
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to go down there today. And then

673
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:11.519
<v Speaker 2>after a day it was fine, and he went back

674
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>and he had his in a little poop spot and

675
00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:18.440
<v Speaker 2>everything seemed to be fine. But there, what I really

676
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 2>want to say is that they are literally around you

677
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.079
<v Speaker 2>all the time. Whether you know it or not, they

678
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:29.599
<v Speaker 2>are around you. This is kind of funny. When I

679
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 2>was a very small child up here in Maine, I

680
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:37.679
<v Speaker 2>would sneak We have one of those old Franklin wood stove,

681
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 2>so that tells you I was probably five at the time,

682
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:47.760
<v Speaker 2>and I would sneak underneath the wood stove. And there

683
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.800
<v Speaker 2>was a time now we're talking sixty years ago, maybe

684
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:58.880
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty, nineteen seventy, yeah, early mid sixties, and maybe

685
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:03.199
<v Speaker 2>it's I don't know, doesn't matter. So I would hide

686
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:05.880
<v Speaker 2>under there, and there was this one time where if

687
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:10.360
<v Speaker 2>you know anything about may or about the old generation,

688
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.880
<v Speaker 2>the men folk came over one night, the men folk.

689
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:18.239
<v Speaker 2>The women folk were not invited. The women folk were

690
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:20.920
<v Speaker 2>not invited, which was weird because it was in the kitchen,

691
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.519
<v Speaker 2>so it was just weird. And the men folk came

692
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:28.480
<v Speaker 2>over and there was my grandfather and my uncles and

693
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.800
<v Speaker 2>a couple of my older cousins, so they didn't know

694
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I was underneath the stove, and they were talking about

695
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:38.360
<v Speaker 2>going out and getting the wood booker. Uh no, it

696
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a wood booker. What did they call it, oh,

697
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 2>a wood devil? A wood devil. They were talking about

698
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.559
<v Speaker 2>going out and getting the wood devil. And they all

699
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>came in. And the other thing that was weird was

700
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:53.599
<v Speaker 2>even at five years old, I knew that nobody, nobody

701
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:57.360
<v Speaker 2>wore boots in Grandma's kitchen. Nobody. And they came in.

702
00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:59.159
<v Speaker 2>They had the boots and they had the guns, and

703
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:01.000
<v Speaker 2>they were all gun out and they were going to

704
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>get the wood devil. And you know, I was like

705
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.880
<v Speaker 2>five or six, and at the time I was thinking

706
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 2>bugs Bunny, the Tasmanian devil. I'm like, why would they

707
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 2>be going after a Tasmanian you know, I mean I

708
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:19.480
<v Speaker 2>was six years old, but I specifically remember them in

709
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 2>the kitchen talking about going after the wood devil. And

710
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, at six years old, I had no I

711
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 2>didn't know. I just put it to bugs bunny, you know,

712
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 2>the Tasmanian devil, and so I always thought that was weird,

713
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.320
<v Speaker 2>because yeah, it was just a weird thing that.

714
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Never they never put it together till pubably a couple

715
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:42.360
<v Speaker 3>of years back. Now, yeah, it make sense.

716
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so it was they've been up here, They've

717
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:49.360
<v Speaker 2>been up here for years. They're probably going to be

718
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>up here until we leave. And yeah, so yeah, we've

719
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:57.119
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of experiences. I wish I could send

720
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:01.400
<v Speaker 2>you some of the pictures, especially the ORB because that's

721
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:03.719
<v Speaker 2>that's weird.

722
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if if you ever be more than happy to share.

723
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:11.760
<v Speaker 3>We do have vocalizations that I've recorded, We do have

724
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:15.360
<v Speaker 3>the ORBS photographs, we have photos. So I mean, as

725
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.800
<v Speaker 3>far as that goes, we have we have enough evidence

726
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:21.719
<v Speaker 3>that it makes us happy. And then the fact that

727
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.480
<v Speaker 3>we belong to a couple different associations and we see

728
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.119
<v Speaker 3>what people gather out there for info. We've been you know,

729
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 3>on on the channels listening to Discovery all that we've

730
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:31.239
<v Speaker 3>we've seen them, done them.

731
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't even listen to those anymore. This stupid.

732
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 2>We just yeah, if we can find them off a

733
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:38.360
<v Speaker 2>logging trail in our backyard.

734
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.000
<v Speaker 3>What some of these guys they go there in the.

735
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.679
<v Speaker 2>Broad and broad daylight because we don't go out at night.

736
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:48.079
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's not they're not that hard if once

737
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 3>you find out what you're looking for. Uh, And we

738
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:52.599
<v Speaker 3>we do it all the time. My buddy comes up

739
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.800
<v Speaker 3>and uh, I won't say, he lives in Massachusetts. We'll

740
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:59.119
<v Speaker 3>talk about that, but he comes up and won't. We'll

741
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 3>jump in. We all have full wheel drives and whatnot,

742
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 3>full wheels, and so we go up and wait, wait,

743
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:05.679
<v Speaker 3>we have fun with it anyway. It's a hobby of art.

744
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:09.440
<v Speaker 2>So there was this We were out back roading one time.

745
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:12.559
<v Speaker 2>It was a logging trail and my husband couldn't walk

746
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:16.039
<v Speaker 2>very well at the time. But there's this beautiful little beach.

747
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you just walk down this wash out and

748
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.679
<v Speaker 2>it's just like this beautiful little beach. I don't know,

749
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 2>it looks like paradise to me. And it's you know,

750
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.280
<v Speaker 2>there's ferns around the edge. And then there's this white

751
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 2>pebble beach and then there's sand and it's just this

752
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 2>little nice river running through and it's just a beautiful area.

753
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:37.920
<v Speaker 2>So and he couldn't make it down there, so I

754
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.559
<v Speaker 2>wanted to go down there and take pictures to show

755
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:42.320
<v Speaker 2>him what it was like, you know, for when he

756
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:44.199
<v Speaker 2>got better and he could come down and look at it.

757
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:48.679
<v Speaker 2>And so I was down there by myself and he

758
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 2>is up in the truck. Like you have to walk

759
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:56.320
<v Speaker 2>up a pretty steep hill to get up a washout, Yeah,

760
00:44:56.400 --> 00:45:00.639
<v Speaker 2>three four hundred yards up this, and I got walked out.

761
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>There was something pacing me. And I am telling you

762
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:10.199
<v Speaker 2>right now that when people say that they were paced

763
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:13.280
<v Speaker 2>out and you're listening to it on the radio or

764
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>you're listening to it wherever, they're like, oh, somebody walked out,

765
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.440
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah blah, it's really scary. Like by the

766
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:25.119
<v Speaker 2>time I got to the truck, I'm like okay, I'm like,

767
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, well, I just don't have the door locked.

768
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Just let me in. And I jumped in there and

769
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 2>I was just like breathing for a few minutes, and

770
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.840
<v Speaker 2>like I just got walked out. I just got paste

771
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:42.679
<v Speaker 2>out and he's like from where I'm like, from down there,

772
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 2>So uh, it was scary. So the next time somebody

773
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:52.840
<v Speaker 2>says they were paste out, not so much fun. So,

774
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and that was an area where we am where we

775
00:45:56.519 --> 00:46:02.719
<v Speaker 2>saw where we didn't see them that you know they're

776
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:04.840
<v Speaker 2>there after a while, you just kind of like know

777
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:08.280
<v Speaker 2>they're there. They're like when you look into the trees

778
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 2>and you see something that's blacker than black, Like there's

779
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:14.880
<v Speaker 2>dense forest and you can still see light through it,

780
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:19.840
<v Speaker 2>but when there's blacker than black, that they're there. And

781
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:24.840
<v Speaker 2>we were not far from that area, and uh yeah

782
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 2>they were. They were there, and we had a rock

783
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:32.599
<v Speaker 2>thrown at the truck down there, and uh yeah, it's

784
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:37.320
<v Speaker 2>it's scarier than you think. So yeah, so don't always

785
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 2>go looking for them, especially at night. You got to

786
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 2>be respectful. So I think that about does it for us.

787
00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:49.559
<v Speaker 2>I think that's about all of our experiences. We're probably

788
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 2>forgetting a few because it's just been so many, but

789
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.360
<v Speaker 2>those are the ones that stand out.

790
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:59.039
<v Speaker 1>Now that you've known what it's like to have them

791
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.199
<v Speaker 1>around as almost a constant presence for all these years,

792
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:05.039
<v Speaker 1>do you think your life would be boring? Now if

793
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 1>they weren't around, Well, I'll.

794
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Tell you what. When I when I'm over the lawn

795
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Speaker 3>out back, I always have my eyes a tree line.

796
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:15.400
<v Speaker 3>I'll pay honest with yes, no that you doing.

797
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't blame you. If you've had a bigfoot sighting

798
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 1>and I would like to be a guest, please go

799
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:25.199
<v Speaker 1>to bigfoote witness dot com and let me know hid

800
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 1>when the bear was staring at that huge sasquatch at

801
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the lake that day, did the beer seem to be

802
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.119
<v Speaker 1>more fearful of the sasquatch or more so just trying

803
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.559
<v Speaker 1>to figure out what it was that it was looking at.

804
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, i'll tell you what. It was sitting down and

805
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:44.679
<v Speaker 2>it was staring at that sasquatch like we were there.

806
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:47.280
<v Speaker 2>You would think a bear would look at us because

807
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:51.719
<v Speaker 2>we were making noise, and he was not interested in

808
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:55.199
<v Speaker 2>us at all. He was glued to whatever that was.

809
00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:00.719
<v Speaker 2>And I mean his air, his ears weren't back, he

810
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:04.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't moving, but he was just like zoned in on that.

811
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:08.280
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like it was kind of like, I don't

812
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:09.880
<v Speaker 2>know how to say it to you. It wasn't like

813
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't moving. He sat there for quite a while

814
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:15.559
<v Speaker 2>and he just scared at it. I don't know if

815
00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 2>he was too scared to move or if he wanted

816
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 2>to move or whatnot. But that particular area, on that

817
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>particular day, we have a lot of pictures of evidence,

818
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:32.320
<v Speaker 2>and somebody said that it was a what do they

819
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:37.639
<v Speaker 2>call it where they have babies, a nursery for it,

820
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.280
<v Speaker 2>because they had somebody who was looking at the pictures

821
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 2>and going, there's a lot there, and they were saying

822
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:48.639
<v Speaker 2>that it looks like a nursery, and that particular sasquatch

823
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.559
<v Speaker 2>that the bear was looking at was on the say,

824
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.119
<v Speaker 2>it was on the right side of the lake, and

825
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:57.199
<v Speaker 2>the saasquatch, the huge sasasquatch I saw, was on the

826
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 2>left side of the lake. It was almost like they

827
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 2>were protecting the area. And that was when we kind

828
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:08.800
<v Speaker 2>of got like, uh, walked out, like shown the way

829
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:12.920
<v Speaker 2>to go out. There were various various big ones there,

830
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:19.480
<v Speaker 2>but they were definitely yeah, I usually mirror the whole

831
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:21.639
<v Speaker 2>way home. Yeah, yeah, they were.

832
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:23.320
<v Speaker 3>They were. Yeah.

833
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Somebody said was a nursery, and that would make complete

834
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 2>sense because there were so many large males in one area.

835
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.079
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, that was the top area where

836
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:36.119
<v Speaker 2>the lake was, and then there were definitive huge crosses

837
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:39.960
<v Speaker 2>like the trees were like the crosses were easy fifteen

838
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty feet tall. And I did go in and look

839
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.480
<v Speaker 2>at them, just to make sure that they didn't have

840
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:49.360
<v Speaker 2>like a tree fall. So I went in and looked

841
00:49:49.360 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>at the roots, and there were no roots. Nothing fell.

842
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 2>They were placed there. So, like my husband said, I

843
00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:59.960
<v Speaker 2>think there was a clan on the top and another

844
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 2>clan on the bottom. I can't definitively say so because

845
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that much about sasquatch, but it would

846
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:11.079
<v Speaker 2>make sense to us because it was definitely another clan

847
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:15.480
<v Speaker 2>on the bottom. But yeah, so it's been, it's been

848
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:19.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of wild, and that's uh yeah. So, like I said,

849
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:20.880
<v Speaker 2>we don't go out at night. I wish I could

850
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.400
<v Speaker 2>send you the pictures of those orbs, because like I said,

851
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:29.199
<v Speaker 2>it was weird. They weren't. It wasn't reflective, it wasn't shine.

852
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 2>It was when we blew it up. It was definitely

853
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:37.199
<v Speaker 2>a sphere, not a round sphere, but like an oval

854
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.840
<v Speaker 2>sphere with like two bug eyes on one end. And

855
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:43.639
<v Speaker 2>that's the best way I can say it, like fly eyes.

856
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:47.880
<v Speaker 2>So it was very strange. And then the photo that

857
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.159
<v Speaker 2>we have from the backyard looks a lot like the

858
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:55.800
<v Speaker 2>photo that we got when we were taking pictures of

859
00:50:55.840 --> 00:51:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the washed out bridge. They don't necessarily look like the

860
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:03.599
<v Speaker 2>SaaS quatch you've seen because the pictures of the one

861
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:07.239
<v Speaker 2>in the back it looks like he doesn't have any

862
00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 2>fur on his face. He's black, like not like black,

863
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:20.000
<v Speaker 2>but like ebony, like a dark ebony. And uh yeah,

864
00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:22.519
<v Speaker 2>and like my son said, it looks like a troll.

865
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:28.079
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't look like uh oh yeah. I forgot to

866
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:32.880
<v Speaker 2>mention that we had we also have a I don't

867
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:36.119
<v Speaker 2>know how to explain it little people. Well, I don't

868
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:37.519
<v Speaker 2>know how there.

869
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.079
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have put this together.

870
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

871
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.639
<v Speaker 3>I was out here on the porch last summer, and

872
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.960
<v Speaker 3>my truck is usually part facing the barn, and I

873
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 3>happened to look out for whatever reason it was, and

874
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:52.000
<v Speaker 3>I saw it what look like a little butt running

875
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.760
<v Speaker 3>past my from underneath my truck towards the barn. And

876
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 3>the barn's riddled with tiger lilies and whatnot, so there's

877
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.599
<v Speaker 3>a lot of ground faun it. And I did really

878
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:03.559
<v Speaker 3>put two and two together that day, but I mentioned

879
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 3>it to my wife and like that was odd and

880
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:07.800
<v Speaker 3>I really, it was that quick. It happened so quick.

881
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:09.800
<v Speaker 3>And then we would listening to some sort of a

882
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:13.519
<v Speaker 3>podcast I think, well maybe six months ago, and they

883
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:16.840
<v Speaker 3>started talking about little people and I'm like, wait a minute,

884
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:21.199
<v Speaker 3>and so remember that thing I saw last summer and

885
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:23.519
<v Speaker 3>it looked like the butt end and it.

886
00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 2>Was it was. The podcast was about the triangle in massapon.

887
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.119
<v Speaker 3>The yeah, about the triangle in Massachusetts what they call it,

888
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:35.400
<v Speaker 3>the Dinnington Triangle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And they were

889
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.760
<v Speaker 3>talking about little people and I'm like, wait a minute,

890
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:42.119
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not uh fixated on little people.

891
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 5>It just never occurred to me. But then I said,

892
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:45.679
<v Speaker 5>thinking about it, I'm like, wait a minute, I think

893
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:46.400
<v Speaker 5>I saw one.

894
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:48.360
<v Speaker 3>And it was just it was happened so quick, you know,

895
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:51.840
<v Speaker 3>it was it was, it was gone, and I really

896
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:53.599
<v Speaker 3>didn't dwell on it. And I didn't you know, I

897
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:56.519
<v Speaker 3>hadn't seen it before, and I wouldn't have even thought

898
00:52:56.519 --> 00:52:58.239
<v Speaker 3>about it until I heard the podcast and they were

899
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:01.239
<v Speaker 3>talking about the triangle and the little people. And so

900
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:03.079
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned to my buddy Greg, I'm like, hey, have you.

901
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:04.400
<v Speaker 5>Ever heard of these these things?

902
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:08.039
<v Speaker 3>And Greg's like, yeah, definitely, because I really don't know

903
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 3>that much about them. But now I'm intrigued because, like

904
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:13.320
<v Speaker 3>I said, behind the house, there's it's it's God's country.

905
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:15.559
<v Speaker 5>Back there, there's you know, bear.

906
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:18.159
<v Speaker 3>This, dear this moves. And now, like I said, what

907
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:20.159
<v Speaker 3>all the activity you have when I'm up the mulling

908
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:23.800
<v Speaker 3>the lawn and whatnot, stacking wood. I always keep one

909
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.440
<v Speaker 3>eye over my shoulder out these days, just you.

910
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Know, I well, that's understandable. As if it wasn't exciting

911
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:33.239
<v Speaker 1>enough to have the sasquatch around, now you know you

912
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:34.480
<v Speaker 1>have little people around.

913
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Holy cow, That's all I can affiliate it with because I,

914
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.159
<v Speaker 3>like I said, I've I've done those in my entire life,

915
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:42.559
<v Speaker 3>and I've seen pretty much every fur bearing creator there is.

916
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:47.199
<v Speaker 5>If I haven't had it hanging on my wall. But

917
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:48.599
<v Speaker 5>this really alluded me.

918
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:51.480
<v Speaker 3>I can't explain it until, like I said, I mentioned

919
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:53.679
<v Speaker 3>it to my buddy Greg and He's like, Yep, I've

920
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:55.840
<v Speaker 3>heard of those. And it all kind of came to

921
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:59.320
<v Speaker 3>puition when I heard about the triangle in the Massachusetts,

922
00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:00.760
<v Speaker 3>which I've known of for quite some time.

923
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:02.079
<v Speaker 5>We've done I've done a lot of work.

924
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Out in that area Western mass the Coven Reservoir area.

925
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:08.239
<v Speaker 5>I've done. There's a lot of land out there. Oh

926
00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:08.639
<v Speaker 5>my god.

927
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:12.760
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's like there's something else now that we're

928
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:14.800
<v Speaker 3>totally unaware of. But you know, only you're not a

929
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:16.559
<v Speaker 3>lot of people talk about them. You know, they're not

930
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:18.719
<v Speaker 3>as popular as the wolf Man and it was a Sasquatch.

931
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not as many people talk about them. But as

932
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're listening to that one podcast, people do.

933
00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:28.719
<v Speaker 1>So it's hard to say where your experiences with these

934
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:30.960
<v Speaker 1>little guys are going to go in the upcoming years.

935
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:34.079
<v Speaker 1>You might have more experiences with them down the road

936
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:37.400
<v Speaker 1>than you've had with sasquatch. It's just really hard to say.

937
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:41.239
<v Speaker 3>What's odd is like I said, I I spent a

938
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:43.000
<v Speaker 3>lot of time in the woods. I don't as much

939
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:44.920
<v Speaker 3>now because i can't get around, but I've got three

940
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:47.559
<v Speaker 3>stands all around in my backyard. I'm If I'm not

941
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:50.199
<v Speaker 3>in the three stand during hunt season, I'm not, you know,

942
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm working. And then I usually take my vacation during

943
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:56.880
<v Speaker 3>hunting seasons. And I spent a tremendous amount of time

944
00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:58.559
<v Speaker 3>in the woods as a kid. You know, that's all

945
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:00.880
<v Speaker 3>you did. You know, as you know, growing up in

946
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:03.039
<v Speaker 3>the in the eighties, whatnot there were no cell phones.

947
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:04.719
<v Speaker 3>You got you you went up with your buddies all

948
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:06.559
<v Speaker 3>day along the woods, you played tree tag, whatever you

949
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:10.920
<v Speaker 3>did out there, and I never I never, if I had,

950
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:12.519
<v Speaker 3>i'd never you know, dawned on me.

951
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:15.559
<v Speaker 5>But now, like I said, now that it's more prominent,

952
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:16.199
<v Speaker 5>Like I said.

953
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 3>I think, what was it in search of back in

954
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.880
<v Speaker 3>the seventies, Leonard Damoy, But it was about the first

955
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 3>time you ever heard about well that and the uh,

956
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:28.440
<v Speaker 3>the two guys out there in the creek Pendleton, I

957
00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:29.559
<v Speaker 3>guess this is his name there.

958
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:31.000
<v Speaker 5>Pattison films.

959
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:33.679
<v Speaker 3>It was about all you had growing up as a

960
00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:35.800
<v Speaker 3>kid as far as evidence went. And then of course

961
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:37.559
<v Speaker 3>now it's a lot more prominence, a lot more people

962
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:38.280
<v Speaker 3>talking about it.

963
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:41.079
<v Speaker 5>And like you said, we joined. I can't tell you

964
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.280
<v Speaker 5>how many chapters I've joined, but a lot of it.

965
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:44.760
<v Speaker 5>You know, you hear people.

966
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:47.679
<v Speaker 3>Here out there there there laundry, and it's like, yeah, okay,

967
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:49.639
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, we belonged to a couple of chapters.

968
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.119
<v Speaker 3>And it's like some of the people you you hang with,

969
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.840
<v Speaker 3>they're like, yeah, no, they're not not on your level.

970
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:56.880
<v Speaker 3>And it's taken us a long time.

971
00:55:56.719 --> 00:56:00.960
<v Speaker 5>To gain to get where we are uh, and confidence

972
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:03.639
<v Speaker 5>and knowing what we're what to look for now. And

973
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:06.480
<v Speaker 5>so it's it's a it's a it's a cool hobby.

974
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:08.119
<v Speaker 3>It's it's a lot of fun. Like I said, we

975
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:11.280
<v Speaker 3>have a sasquatch for our little box. It has all

976
00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:15.840
<v Speaker 3>the castings and our infrared parabolics and you know, we'll

977
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:18.280
<v Speaker 3>stay out here tonight. We'll just you know, shut everything off,

978
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.440
<v Speaker 3>we'll listen to We'll just put a parabolics on for

979
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.639
<v Speaker 3>about an hour or so and just listen to the woods.

980
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.360
<v Speaker 3>And you'd be amazed what you hear that's not normal?

981
00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, I can only imagine the things that you hear. Yeah,

982
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't doubt that at all.

983
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in the fact, we've had chances to record a

984
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:35.519
<v Speaker 3>few of the vocalizations.

985
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:37.039
<v Speaker 5>Like I said, I was out here one night. I'm like,

986
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:39.440
<v Speaker 5>is that tonight that I did?

987
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:41.280
<v Speaker 3>And I got out and got my cell phone and

988
00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:43.920
<v Speaker 3>I was able to actually capture a howl uh across

989
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:46.239
<v Speaker 3>the street. I roa is probably about one hundred feet

990
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 3>from my driveway. So, and then beyond that is this

991
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:54.559
<v Speaker 3>mountain range. So and these things echo and we have coyotes,

992
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:55.239
<v Speaker 3>don't get me.

993
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:57.480
<v Speaker 5>I have coyotes running up, up and down.

994
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.679
<v Speaker 3>Hear them chasing deer all the time, especially when when

995
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:02.760
<v Speaker 3>the time you're home run deer and there's a difference

996
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:06.039
<v Speaker 3>between a coyote howl and let's ask watch college.

997
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:08.920
<v Speaker 5>You'll hear yips, yikes, yaps and.

998
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Barks and whatnot, and then you had this howl that

999
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:13.519
<v Speaker 3>you have to have a lung capacity of a fifty

1000
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:15.519
<v Speaker 3>gallon blown to get out.

1001
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:18.039
<v Speaker 5>That's how long these things are. Let go for it.

1002
00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:21.239
<v Speaker 3>It's like, oh, you smokes, that's some one capacity. And

1003
00:57:21.480 --> 00:57:25.400
<v Speaker 3>we've farn them on several occasions. We go up to

1004
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Errol in New Hampshire, which is northern, you know, the

1005
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:30.679
<v Speaker 3>northern part of the state, and there's a big there's

1006
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:32.840
<v Speaker 3>big ranges out there you can just sit on and

1007
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 3>and do your your calling and whatnot, and you'll hit it.

1008
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Every once in a while you'll get a call back

1009
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:39.639
<v Speaker 3>and uh, it's pretty cool.

1010
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cool, doesn't do it any justice. That's something else. Eric,

1011
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>you told us about those overnight investigations that you and

1012
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Hidey go on. When you go on them, though, do

1013
00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:52.559
<v Speaker 1>you have any concerns about your safety?

1014
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:57.199
<v Speaker 3>I carry a forty five slide arm, not that it

1015
00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 3>will probably penetrate one. But it's at least it's something.

1016
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:01.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I have an arsenal. But when they when

1017
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:04.480
<v Speaker 3>we do the and again I don't pipping around the

1018
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:06.960
<v Speaker 3>woods is not my forte anymore, especially in the dark

1019
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.000
<v Speaker 3>and we have the miners lamps and all that whatnot.

1020
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 3>But I will typically hang out of camp and keep

1021
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:16.000
<v Speaker 3>the fire rolling. And uh you hear you can hear

1022
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:17.480
<v Speaker 3>plenty from the camp. You don't need to go trip

1023
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:21.440
<v Speaker 3>around the woods applying evidence. But no, I I mean

1024
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.400
<v Speaker 3>most of the people that that that you do these excursions,

1025
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:27.000
<v Speaker 3>the experienced ones will carry their pack.

1026
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:28.320
<v Speaker 5>Well.

1027
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:31.679
<v Speaker 1>Also, as you know talking about sitting around camp, you're

1028
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:33.719
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna have more luck with them just coming to

1029
00:58:33.760 --> 00:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you than most people would have beating off into the

1030
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:38.400
<v Speaker 1>bushes looking for this is.

1031
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:40.840
<v Speaker 3>This is ninety percent of the luck I think is

1032
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:43.840
<v Speaker 3>they're they're carrious by nature. From more I can gather,

1033
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:48.280
<v Speaker 3>they're more curious about you than you are them. And

1034
00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:50.480
<v Speaker 3>like I said, ninety percent of my our action is

1035
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:53.800
<v Speaker 3>just random shots. They're there. I can't tell you how

1036
00:58:53.840 --> 00:58:55.599
<v Speaker 3>many times I probably walk by them and not known.

1037
00:58:56.639 --> 00:58:59.599
<v Speaker 3>So when you you you just go out random areas

1038
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 3>and will take some take some random pol video or

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00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:05.679
<v Speaker 3>photos and then go home for you fifty in screen

1040
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.239
<v Speaker 3>TV and you start dissecting. You're like, oh, well he smokes.

1041
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:11.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, so they're watching you the whole time you're

1042
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:12.840
<v Speaker 3>out there. You may not realize it.

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00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Eric used to make fun of me because I had

1044
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:19.639
<v Speaker 2>a spidery sense and I would know when they were around,

1045
00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:21.960
<v Speaker 2>because you do after a while, you just kind of

1046
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.559
<v Speaker 2>do you know when they're around. So the first places

1047
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:29.599
<v Speaker 2>that we went where the two clans were, everything was

1048
00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:32.000
<v Speaker 2>fine until you know that one time they're like, okay,

1049
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:34.760
<v Speaker 2>you're getting annoying. And then we left. And then the

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00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:37.440
<v Speaker 2>other place that we went and I walked out on

1051
00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:42.159
<v Speaker 2>that place was very I don't want to say benevolent,

1052
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:46.440
<v Speaker 2>but it was you could tell they did not want

1053
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:49.880
<v Speaker 2>you there. It was just you got a bad feeling

1054
00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and they did not want you there, and it was

1055
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:56.840
<v Speaker 2>like okay. And I do believe that there are different

1056
00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:00.840
<v Speaker 2>ones different you know, like humans, there some that are

1057
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:06.639
<v Speaker 2>patient and others that aren't. So the ones around our house,

1058
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I believe are they know we're here, curious, they're curious,

1059
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:19.880
<v Speaker 2>and you don't get any sense of danger or anything

1060
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:23.159
<v Speaker 2>like that. It's I don't go out there at night,

1061
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.599
<v Speaker 2>just because some of the faces that we've seen in

1062
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:30.599
<v Speaker 2>the woods are very scary. And then having that whistle

1063
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:33.760
<v Speaker 2>back that one night, that was not cool. That was

1064
01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:36.039
<v Speaker 2>not cool when you're out there and you give a

1065
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:38.280
<v Speaker 2>whistle to your dog and something whistles back at you

1066
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:40.440
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, no, that was not fun at all.

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01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:44.239
<v Speaker 2>So there are times like that, But I do believe

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01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:47.159
<v Speaker 2>that there are some that are just like, don't come

1069
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 2>near us, which is where I feel like I was

1070
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:55.559
<v Speaker 2>walked out, and like the ones around our house. I

1071
01:00:55.599 --> 01:01:01.039
<v Speaker 2>mean it's cool. I don't go high in the woods

1072
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:03.440
<v Speaker 2>around the house. I don't go hiking in the woods

1073
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:07.599
<v Speaker 2>without at least another person and a dog, just because

1074
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:10.719
<v Speaker 2>you want to know what's there. And the other interesting

1075
01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:17.119
<v Speaker 2>thing is that we don't have bears raccoons. We have

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01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:21.599
<v Speaker 2>nothing around our house. Down in southern New Hampshire, we

1077
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:26.280
<v Speaker 2>have bears and raccoons because they're constantly in our trash

1078
01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:28.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's hard to keep them out. But up here

1079
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:32.400
<v Speaker 2>where you see bear in the woods and you see

1080
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:36.039
<v Speaker 2>bear tracks, we don't have them around at all. They

1081
01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:39.559
<v Speaker 2>don't come around the yard. There's nothing, So I find

1082
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:44.440
<v Speaker 2>that very odd. Find that very odd, and it's just

1083
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:47.119
<v Speaker 2>one of those things that you know, I mean, you

1084
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:50.599
<v Speaker 2>might not even think about it, but if you put

1085
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:55.639
<v Speaker 2>all the clues together, they're there, and they're definitely, Yeah,

1086
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.599
<v Speaker 2>they're here. I mean I've heard them, you know, I

1087
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:03.639
<v Speaker 2>I've heard them. I've heard them at back and yeah,

1088
01:02:03.639 --> 01:02:04.719
<v Speaker 2>they're definitely here.

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01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, like I said, what an exciting life you two live.

1090
01:02:09.480 --> 01:02:11.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure it's not lost on you. A lot

1091
01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:14.119
<v Speaker 1>of people listening to this would give their left arms

1092
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:15.679
<v Speaker 1>to trade places with you.

1093
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it is, and it isn't. Uh So it

1094
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:27.360
<v Speaker 2>is restrictive. So when we first moved up here, and

1095
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:29.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, YadA YadA, YadA, when I was a kid

1096
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:31.679
<v Speaker 2>and we were living up here, I'd hike out and

1097
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.159
<v Speaker 2>was all day long, go do this, go do that.

1098
01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:37.639
<v Speaker 2>And now not so much. Now it's like, uh, now

1099
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.400
<v Speaker 2>we'll stay in a yard and we'll.

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01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Just like I said, you don't even have to leave

1101
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:42.960
<v Speaker 3>the vehicle to see them.

1102
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:45.719
<v Speaker 2>You don't, you don't. And that's that's what kind of

1103
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:49.039
<v Speaker 2>all of these Sasquad shows where they go out and

1104
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:51.760
<v Speaker 2>they set up these parabolics and they do all this

1105
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:56.360
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, well they're right there. I don't understand.

1106
01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe they get scared away by the equipment.

1107
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:03.320
<v Speaker 3>When I've heard if you ever want to get rid

1108
01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:05.679
<v Speaker 3>of a saasquatch, put it into your camera. Up for

1109
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 3>what I am, they just avoid them like to play.

1110
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:12.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Back back in the old days, the

1111
01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:16.119
<v Speaker 3>game cameras were real the reel. Uh, they didn't. They

1112
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:19.400
<v Speaker 3>didn't admit like a sonic like a digital camera does.

1113
01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Now.

1114
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:23.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm sure they give off some sort of a frequency. Uh.

1115
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:24.800
<v Speaker 3>In the old days, they did not. That's why they

1116
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:28.000
<v Speaker 3>were more productive in my opinion. Take it or leave it,

1117
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:29.119
<v Speaker 3>but that's my opinion.

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01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:31.960
<v Speaker 6>I've had trail cameras out my entire life, and I've

1119
01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.719
<v Speaker 6>never caught anything on video on a on a game camera.

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01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:37.320
<v Speaker 6>Back in the days, back in the early eighties, I

1121
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:39.719
<v Speaker 6>had real the reels, but I.

1122
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Was never looking for you know, it was not a sasquatch.

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01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:44.880
<v Speaker 5>The other thing.

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01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:48.599
<v Speaker 2>The other thing that I don't know if people there's

1126
01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:52.320
<v Speaker 2>controversy about this, but they climb trees. They they are

1127
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:57.000
<v Speaker 2>in trees. They are definitely in trees. Not maybe not

1128
01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:01.480
<v Speaker 2>the big ones, maybe not the twelve footers. But the juveniles, Oh,

1129
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:05.039
<v Speaker 2>they are in the trees, and if you see one,

1130
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:09.760
<v Speaker 2>there's definitely definitely more than one around. They don't go

1131
01:04:09.880 --> 01:04:14.199
<v Speaker 2>by themselves, and yeah, so they are family unit and

1132
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.159
<v Speaker 2>they you know, they might not stay right next to

1133
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:19.800
<v Speaker 2>each other, but it's like kids on a playground. They

1134
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:22.480
<v Speaker 2>go fifty feet this way, six hundred feet that way, whatever,

1135
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:27.119
<v Speaker 2>but there's still within an area. And that I definitely

1136
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:30.280
<v Speaker 2>believe because because they are.

1137
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:33.880
<v Speaker 7>And you know, the nurseries that we spoke of down

1138
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:37.599
<v Speaker 7>below the mountain pond, we've got tracks, like I said,

1139
01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:43.519
<v Speaker 7>sixty four inch stride between footprints. Footprints were seventeen inches long,

1140
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:47.239
<v Speaker 7>seven inches wide, and in the same the same spot,

1141
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:49.840
<v Speaker 7>we've got these big, good adults. We've got photos of

1142
01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:52.360
<v Speaker 7>juveniles up in trees in the same spot. That's why

1143
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:54.679
<v Speaker 7>we kind of assumed that it might be a nursery

1144
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:55.239
<v Speaker 7>of some sort.

1145
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:58.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sounds like you've got a little bit of everything

1146
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:00.519
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to sasquatch run your proce property. But

1147
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.159
<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of a reflection of the idea

1148
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:06.039
<v Speaker 1>that these guys feel very comfortable there. At least that's

1149
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the impression that I've got. But having said that, I

1150
01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:11.400
<v Speaker 1>can't thank you too enough for coming on and sharing

1151
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:14.239
<v Speaker 1>all these experiences with us. I really appreciate it.

1152
01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:16.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's a pleasure. Thank you very much.

1153
01:05:17.199 --> 01:05:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you're welcome. It's been a lot of fun.

1154
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And remember if I can never help you out, please

1155
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:22.440
<v Speaker 1>let me know.

1156
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, sounds great.

1157
01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Great, Well, thanks again so much for your time, and

1158
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:37.760
<v Speaker 1>have a great night. That's it for another episode of

1159
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:42.039
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with Vic Kundiff. If you've had a

1160
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:43.360
<v Speaker 1>sasquatch encounter and.

1161
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:45.519
<v Speaker 3>Would like to be a guest on the show, please

1162
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.760
<v Speaker 3>go to Bigfoot eyewitness dot com and submit a report.

1163
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:50.679
<v Speaker 2>We'd love to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening, have a great night.