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Speaker 2: My name is Heidi and my husband's name is Eric,
Speaker 2: and we've been out in the woods all our lives.
Speaker 2: My father taught us how to pick fiddleheads and just
Speaker 2: showed us everything. Which plants tastes like mint, which plants
Speaker 2: taste like bayberry. So we've been out in the woods
Speaker 2: all our lives. Eric is an avid hunter, which he
Speaker 2: will tell you about. And we recently, I'm saying recently
Speaker 2: because we're in our sixties, so recently, within the last
Speaker 2: twenty years, got into bigfooting because well it was intriguing
Speaker 2: and we've had many experiences. The first I can tell
Speaker 2: you at our house down south, which is in southern
Speaker 2: New Hampshire, which is in a very there's neighbors, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of neighbors, but we're also our backyard is
Speaker 2: we're in a back law and it's surrounded by conservation land,
Speaker 2: telephone poles. There are apple orchards, they're pumpkins there. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a huge farming community. And in nineteen seventy six
Speaker 2: there was an incident written up in the local newspaper
Speaker 2: about a sasquatch rocking a trailer and they were actual footprints,
Speaker 2: eighteen inch footprints found in nineteen seventy six not too
Speaker 2: far from our house, local flea market, at a local
Speaker 2: flea market. And so we've been into looking and big
Speaker 2: footing ever since, you know, we found out about that.
Speaker 2: It's it's we thought it was fun at first, but
Speaker 2: now we know it's not fun. It's they're real and
Speaker 2: they're virtually everywhere. We've had several experiences at our house
Speaker 2: down south in southern New Hampshire. I mean you can
Speaker 2: see your neighbor and we've had issues a couple of times.
Speaker 2: We have a telephone pole. Our driveway is about a
Speaker 2: football field long and it's surrounded by there's this big
Speaker 2: area of rush and trees and it's just dark and
Speaker 2: wooded and you have to go through that to come
Speaker 2: to the house, which is cleared, and in that part
Speaker 2: there is a telephone pole. With all of our electronics
Speaker 2: all over internet everything. It's been ripped off three times.
Speaker 2: The first time it's like, well, you know, maybe it
Speaker 2: was a bear. Second time, the person came out and
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't think it was a bear. He's like,
Speaker 2: you might have an neighbor that doesn't like you because
Speaker 2: he's ripping off the box and it's not. There's no
Speaker 2: claw marks, there's nothing there. And we're like, well, it
Speaker 2: can't be our neighbors, because we know our neighbors. We
Speaker 2: have barbecues with our neighbors. We like our neighbors, they
Speaker 2: like us, and our neighbors are kind of at the time,
Speaker 2: they were very elderly, so there's no way they'd be
Speaker 2: going through the brush to get to that transition box.
Speaker 2: And the third time it happened, the tech was so
Speaker 2: unnerved by it, i say, or upset by it, or
Speaker 2: he was just kind of he was confused. He waited
Speaker 2: for me to come home after work to show me
Speaker 2: that the box had been taken off. And there's still
Speaker 2: no explanation for that. There's no explanation for that. And
Speaker 2: since then we put on a lock box and a
Speaker 2: big thing that you would have to really go through.
Speaker 2: You'd have to have a special tool to get that off. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you need a crowbar, you need a crowbar. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: since then it hasn't happened. Another thing that happened down
Speaker 2: there was the kids around us. Because there's so much
Speaker 2: property in the back and it's conservation language, you know,
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be riding their bikes on, but they do.
Speaker 2: They have you know, cross bikes and motor bikes and
Speaker 2: all that, and they would ride back there, which was
Speaker 2: fine because they kept the trails clean, so we could
Speaker 2: go back there. And they called us one time and
Speaker 2: they're like, why did you put a log across the trails?
Speaker 2: And we're like, we didn't put a log across the
Speaker 2: trails and they're like, well, there's a log across the trails.
Speaker 3: It was a bit I had to use an excavator
Speaker 3: to move the log.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was a big log, and.
Speaker 3: So there was no evidence of routage. It just appeared
Speaker 3: they hadn't just fallen down. It didn't belong there. And
Speaker 3: now we're estimate the way that that a tree. Actually
Speaker 3: it was probably about four or six hundred pounds to
Speaker 3: get it out of the trail. So that was fairly bizarre.
Speaker 2: And one of the other things that happened. I would
Speaker 2: have to get up about three o'clock in the morning
Speaker 2: to go to work. So it was about three thirty am,
Speaker 2: and I had a jeep and it was beautiful weather,
Speaker 2: so I had the top down on it and I
Speaker 2: got to that grove of trees in the middle of
Speaker 2: the driveway and I just I got so scared. It's like,
Speaker 2: I can't explain it. I was just like my heart left.
Speaker 2: It was it was like all I could feel was
Speaker 2: in my imagination or whatever, is like this hand coming
Speaker 2: down and back of me trying to grab me out
Speaker 2: of the jeep. I was so scared at that point
Speaker 2: that I hunched over. I hunched over the wheel, and
Speaker 2: I was just like oooh, you know, I mean I
Speaker 2: was I couldn't breathe. And then by the time I
Speaker 2: got to the road, I like I punched it. I
Speaker 2: just I like punched it and I was gone. And
Speaker 2: I was probably two miles down the road before I
Speaker 2: could actually catch my breath and go oooh. And that
Speaker 2: was just extremely scary. I mean, it stays with me
Speaker 2: because there's no reason, I mean, I've been in that
Speaker 2: house for ten years. There's no reason for me to
Speaker 2: be that extremely scared to like hunch over my wheel
Speaker 2: and get out of there as fast as I could.
Speaker 2: But those are the things that happened, and these are
Speaker 2: the things that happened before we really got into sass watching,
Speaker 2: before we really believed they were just arbitrary things that
Speaker 2: kind of led to us to believe in these things.
Speaker 2: And then there was a time when I was throwing
Speaker 2: the ball for the dog and there's trails around our house, granted,
Speaker 2: and something ran.
Speaker 4: It just it was just ran. It was just fast.
Speaker 4: It was like black and it just it was like fast.
Speaker 4: It was like a shadow, but it was fast. And
Speaker 4: I had to stop and like, did I just see something?
Speaker 4: And I was like, that was not a deer. It
Speaker 4: was no way was that a deer? And the bears
Speaker 4: cannot move that fast. And I saw it. I know
Speaker 4: I saw it. And then I mentioned it to my husband.
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, yeah, I've seen things like that back there.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, it would have helped you if you
Speaker 2: had told me. So we've had several experiences. So my
Speaker 2: takeaway from that is I would like everybody that's listening
Speaker 2: to understand that they are not just in the deep woods.
Speaker 2: They are not They are closer than you think they
Speaker 2: are because they're there. I don't know how else to
Speaker 2: explain it. But they're there. And if you know what
Speaker 2: to look for, and if you believe that you see
Speaker 2: what you see, then you'll know. I guess that sounds stupid,
Speaker 2: but you know whatever. So then we have several experiences
Speaker 2: up here at our other house which we're moving to,
Speaker 2: a lot more experiences and yeah, so I'll let my
Speaker 2: husband go into that.
Speaker 3: So both properties that we own went one souther and
Speaker 3: the answer one up and mean, both very wooded back lots.
Speaker 3: There's nothing behind the one up and mean there's probably
Speaker 3: six seven hundred acre is behind us and both properties
Speaker 3: I've hunted religiously. I have true stands down south. I've
Speaker 3: got three stands within ice the ice eide of the house,
Speaker 3: and I've been, they've been, They've produced a lot of deer.
Speaker 3: And the twenty five years that we've been there, and
Speaker 3: the amount of time I've spent in the woods hunting
Speaker 3: my younger years, I I've never encountered. Let's assquatch. I
Speaker 3: guess I knew about them, you know, from from the
Speaker 3: seventies shows back in the day with London Nimoy. I've
Speaker 3: heard about him, but it's never really on the back
Speaker 3: of my mind until we I guess it was enlightened
Speaker 3: probably about ten fifteen years ago. We bought the property
Speaker 3: up in Maine, and we've belonged to a couple of chapters,
Speaker 3: and we've done a couple of overnight excursions. And because
Speaker 3: we've had some some odde stuff happen up here, and
Speaker 3: you know, things that you pass off, and now that
Speaker 3: you're aware of what you're looking for and what you're
Speaker 3: listening for, it opens up a whole new avenue. We
Speaker 3: have a three season porch up here in Maine. We'll
Speaker 3: sit out here till midnight. Some nights we have the
Speaker 3: parabolics and whatnot. For some nights you don't even need
Speaker 3: a parabolic. I've recorded vocalizations. I've sat in my chair
Speaker 3: here and weard a couple of holes across the street,
Speaker 3: and I was able to capture the third one. I
Speaker 3: grabbed my phone once I realized what was going on,
Speaker 3: I grabbed my phone, jumped off the porch, and clearly
Speaker 3: got a vocalization across the street. And across the street.
Speaker 3: It goes on forever. There's a river down there and whatnot.
Speaker 3: And like I said, we're up here in the mountain,
Speaker 3: so you get a lot of reburb So we do,
Speaker 3: Like I said, my son, he's in his twenties. We
Speaker 3: do a lot of fishing, a lot of hiking, a
Speaker 3: lot of hunting together. And my wife is she's avid. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't get around as much as I used to
Speaker 3: these days, but I still enjoy the wilderness. My son
Speaker 3: and I were all fishing one time and we were
Speaker 3: right off side of the road, basically right off the pavement.
Speaker 3: Truck was, you know, two tires were on a pavement
Speaker 3: to were off and my son walked up the river,
Speaker 3: probably about one hundred yards up the road from me,
Speaker 3: and I just throwing a couple of layers into the
Speaker 3: stream and out of nowhere. This was late August. There
Speaker 3: wasn't a breath of air to be had, there was
Speaker 3: no windage at all, and this log came flying and
Speaker 3: it was probably about a hundred one hundred yards from
Speaker 3: me and it made a splash down it. It was
Speaker 3: right on the corner of the river, and my son,
Speaker 3: who was one hundred yards away, it's like, Dad, you're okay,
Speaker 3: and I'm like I used to yell that, like dude,
Speaker 3: we gotta go, we gotta go now. It was big.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the weight it was. I didn't
Speaker 3: stick around to wait to see, but things like that was.
Speaker 3: You know, I've had beaver tails slapping at me, you
Speaker 3: know when they get upset when you're out there fishing,
Speaker 3: when that come around, if they don't want any of
Speaker 3: that hut, they'll do the splash and you know, that
Speaker 3: was originally what I thought it was. But you could
Speaker 3: clearly hear this and coming through the trees, So that
Speaker 3: was That was one of the first times I really
Speaker 3: got close to one, and that really really woke us up.
Speaker 3: We've had, like I said, I've had vocalizations on the porch.
Speaker 3: I've had my buddy we set out here and it
Speaker 3: winter time and we used to do vocals off the
Speaker 3: porch at night. We do howls and wait for callbacks
Speaker 3: and you know, sometimes you hit, sometimes you don't. But
Speaker 3: one time it was winter, it was January, it was cold,
Speaker 3: and I got three callbacks. There's a metal uh probably
Speaker 3: about three hundred yards across away from the porch. There
Speaker 3: were three definitive callbacks that literally my buddy and I
Speaker 3: we we we was right, went back in the house
Speaker 3: and he looked me. I looked at him. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll good we'll go back in the house. We've had
Speaker 3: the same thing, my wife and I. It was probably
Speaker 3: the first callback we've ever had. We first started doing
Speaker 3: the howls, we did one off the porch and the
Speaker 3: immediately got a call back right in the backyard, and
Speaker 3: so we don't do howls off the porch anymore. According
Speaker 3: to my wife is like, we're not doing that anymore
Speaker 3: around the house because they're there. We were up one day,
Speaker 3: uh fishing on a mountain pond. It's a beautiful, beautiful
Speaker 3: trop pond, all native fish is nobody literally four miles
Speaker 3: up off of it's a beaten path. You need fool
Speaker 3: drive to get to it. And I found it on
Speaker 3: a map. You wouldn't know it was there if we
Speaker 3: weren't looking for it. So we we found it, We
Speaker 3: located it, and we were up there doing that whatnot.
Speaker 3: I tried throwing a couple of lores, and we just
Speaker 3: took some random pictures, you know, across the lake whatnot not,
Speaker 3: you know, nothing suspicious at all. And we get this
Speaker 3: habit now where we take the photos, we take them
Speaker 3: back to the house and we'll plug them into the
Speaker 3: widescreen TV and then well then it we'll start dissecting him.
Speaker 3: It seems to be very productive. Every time we we uh,
Speaker 3: we take random photographs. It doesn't matter where you are, uh,
Speaker 3: just off the beaten path. And nine of our photographs
Speaker 3: that we've gotten captains on we're standing beside a vehicle. Uh,
Speaker 3: off a logging road, a fire road. You named her.
Speaker 3: You know, we're miles off the beaten path, but we're
Speaker 3: we're still on the blogging road. Uh. Like I said,
Speaker 3: I don't get around too well. I've got a bad
Speaker 3: hip now, I've had a hip and placement. We're in
Speaker 3: our sixties, so hiking and hunting is kind of a
Speaker 3: chore now. So most of our success has been right
Speaker 3: out of the vehicles. So one day we were at
Speaker 3: that mountain pond and we took a couple of random
Speaker 3: shots across the lake just for whatever reason. Got home.
Speaker 3: We're looking at him, and I've got these on my
Speaker 3: camera and I've I've actually posted him on several websites.
Speaker 3: And in the bottom of the photo on the right
Speaker 3: hand side is a black bear on the far shore
Speaker 3: that I would destimate about two hundred pounds. Different take.
Speaker 3: He's sitting down, but I'd say he's probably about four
Speaker 3: and a half four and a half in the sitting
Speaker 3: position tall. And then to the left, about sixty eighty
Speaker 3: feet away from him, right at the edge of the
Speaker 3: tree line, there was a figure and I would say
Speaker 3: it looking in the bear sitting there staring back at
Speaker 3: this figure, and I would say it was probably two
Speaker 3: hundred yards across the lake. When you say approximately, I
Speaker 3: would put this figure in about ten to eleven feet tall,
Speaker 3: approximately set. I mean, he's barrel chested. I've got it.
Speaker 3: We all, well, you get the perfect outline, chronicle head
Speaker 3: you name it. Uh, proportionally taller on the top end,
Speaker 3: shorter on the bottom end, long arms, long arms, down
Speaker 3: town down to about his kneecast. His legs look kind
Speaker 3: of dysfunctional because he's he's shorter on the but shorter
Speaker 3: on the legs, and he is on the upper on
Speaker 3: the upper barrel of his chest. Uh, he's staring at
Speaker 3: the bear. The bear is not moving in the photograph.
Speaker 3: And I was like, we didn't see that, you know,
Speaker 3: when we took the photo. We didn't. We didn't see
Speaker 3: it that we caught. We captured one other photo of
Speaker 3: that day too, I believe in the tree lane. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we did but that was a chronicle. Uh So now
Speaker 3: we've we've been experienced, exposed, we've learned, we've studied. Uh,
Speaker 3: we know what to look for. Now, Like you take
Speaker 3: a random shot, you won't see nothing, but then you
Speaker 3: start looking for the dark shadows, and then you kind
Speaker 3: of zoom in on, you'll see the chronicle head. Every time,
Speaker 3: dead getaway is the eyebrow. The brow right above the
Speaker 3: the eyes is a dead giveaway. You'll have the h
Speaker 3: It's a lighter, a grayish color compared to the rest
Speaker 3: of the body.
Speaker 2: So at the same time, on these logging roads that
Speaker 2: we were on, we have a picture of a and
Speaker 2: anybody that looks at it, sometimes they can see pictures,
Speaker 2: sometimes they can't. But this one is a real definitive
Speaker 2: picture of a face of a young Sasasquatch. You know
Speaker 2: it was young because it was very small. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say probably the head might have been two feet and
Speaker 2: it was very round, very floppy, and it's it was
Speaker 2: underneath the trees, so it was on the ground, and
Speaker 2: it was definitely looking at us. It was really there
Speaker 2: looking at us.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: About fifteen feet away from us. And then yeah, so
Speaker 2: it was there and then we all always had the
Speaker 2: I always had the feeling that they that they were there,
Speaker 2: Like you get this feeling like you know, it's a tingle,
Speaker 2: you know, and they know you're there. You know they're there,
Speaker 2: and sometimes you can get pictures of them and sometimes
Speaker 2: you can't. There was a time when we brought up
Speaker 2: our brother and sister in law, and they're much more
Speaker 2: nimble than to say the least, and they were going
Speaker 2: around and investigating parts that we couldn't get to. And
Speaker 2: I got the distinct distinct.
Speaker 3: Was that the day we called them back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the day we called them back. I
Speaker 2: got the distinct feeling that all I heard I heard
Speaker 2: this in my head is like, Okay, you're annoying, now leave.
Speaker 2: And I didn't take a second. I'm like, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: like we got to go. So we called them back
Speaker 2: and we left during that time. And I think you've
Speaker 2: had other people that will say this. I was following
Speaker 2: my brother in law down this off there this There
Speaker 2: was this area where there were crosses and broken limbs
Speaker 2: and just signs, just signs everywhere about SaaS watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I would just jump in quickly. This is the
Speaker 3: same area where the Mountain Pond. Uh, there's a four
Speaker 3: or five mile Roden Loggin road. And I would almost
Speaker 3: say from what my wife was just saying, that there
Speaker 3: was two different tribes in that area, two different plans,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call them. Uh, one on the
Speaker 3: lower end and one on the upper end.
Speaker 2: UH.
Speaker 3: Only because as you drive up these roads, you look
Speaker 3: and you'll see the traditional uh access of a tree. UH.
Speaker 3: And I so I guess from what I understand, it's
Speaker 3: a barrier says do not cross. And we had them
Speaker 3: on the bottom half, and we have on the top half,
Speaker 3: and we've have evidence of we've had footprints photographed on
Speaker 3: both on top and bottom. We put beads out, glass
Speaker 3: beads on rocks and have them switched around, you know,
Speaker 3: gone back two or three days later. The fruit they
Speaker 3: didn't touch. The watermelon we put watermelon out. Watermelon was
Speaker 3: not touched, but the rocks had all been moved to
Speaker 3: all the glass beads and very a lot of just
Speaker 3: a lot of activity in this one particular area, and
Speaker 3: with the trees being crossed, and just yeah, we've actually
Speaker 3: my wife has got a photograph of a young one
Speaker 3: up in a pine tree, probably about fifteen feet up
Speaker 3: in the tree watching us. We didn't know was there
Speaker 3: until we got home and dissected. So this area particularly
Speaker 3: is like one of our favorite hout squads. But the
Speaker 3: river got washed out took the bridge out a couple
Speaker 3: of years back. We have not yet. They don't get
Speaker 3: back up there, and it was one of our favorite
Speaker 3: places ago and we've had every time we go up there,
Speaker 3: it never disappointed.
Speaker 2: One time I was following my brother in law through
Speaker 2: this it was a walking trail, you know, nothing like
Speaker 2: a trail, trail, not maintained. It was either a deer
Speaker 2: trail or anyway you could walk it. And there's this
Speaker 2: culvert to my left and there was a big black
Speaker 2: rock down there, which okay, it's a big black rock.
Speaker 2: And then there was a bug on my leg and
Speaker 2: I went to swat it, just like lookdown, went to
Speaker 2: swat it. I looked back and the rock was gone,
Speaker 2: gone gone. I'm like, well, okay, time to go back.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so we've had a lot of experiences in
Speaker 2: that one particular area. And then we went down to
Speaker 2: look at the road wash out where the bridge was.
Speaker 2: Bridge was washed out, and we were just making random
Speaker 2: pictures because it's kind of cool to see what nature
Speaker 2: did and wash out. And sure enough we got home
Speaker 2: just looking at the pictures, not thinking anything of it,
Speaker 2: and there's a face looking at us from that area.
Speaker 2: And the thing about that face is it's not too
Speaker 2: different from the face that we have from a photo
Speaker 2: in the backyard. So yeah, that was kind of makes
Speaker 2: you go, huh. They do say they follow you. And honestly,
Speaker 2: after we go out to one of these places, we
Speaker 2: always take the long way home. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it matters or not, but we always take the long
Speaker 2: way home. Doesn't seem to matter, but that's our experience
Speaker 2: out there. It's just been at that at that pond
Speaker 2: was I think my first experience seeing a bigfoot in
Speaker 2: real life, like in real life, but it was across
Speaker 2: the pond and it was huge. It was as big
Speaker 2: as a tree. It was huge, and it was black,
Speaker 2: and it was I think they were trying to get
Speaker 2: rid of us. I think it was they were trying
Speaker 2: to walk us out or whatever. And it was jumping,
Speaker 2: or it wasn't jumping. It was going from tree to tree,
Speaker 2: like behind tree tree, so you could just see it.
Speaker 2: You could just see it and it would go behind
Speaker 2: another tree, and then it was it was it was
Speaker 2: kind of wild. It was like it was really wild.
Speaker 2: It was there and it wasn't It wasn't even trying
Speaker 2: to hide. Really, it was just going from tree to
Speaker 2: tree and it was huge. And uh. We have a
Speaker 2: photo just down the road where we call the First Clan,
Speaker 2: not the Upper Clan, so the First Clan, and our
Speaker 2: friend was walking down the road and I took a
Speaker 2: picture of him because I wanted to scale how bad
Speaker 2: the road had washed out with it on both sides
Speaker 2: and on the very top. And I cannot explain this.
Speaker 2: I cannot explain this. I'm not a tech person. On
Speaker 2: the top of the photo is a face. It's a
Speaker 2: real face of I'm gonna say, a sasquatch, a monkey man.
Speaker 2: It is right there.
Speaker 3: It's like traditionale.
Speaker 2: How the heck you know? I mean, that is not
Speaker 2: you know, it's nothing that you can imagine. It's right there.
Speaker 2: It's a face.
Speaker 3: So at this mountain pond there is an old fishing shack,
Speaker 3: just just a shelter from the weather. I would say,
Speaker 3: nothing major. It's probably built in the fifties, just now
Speaker 3: since removed. But it's odd because the trail goes down
Speaker 3: to the backside of the lake. It's you know, you
Speaker 3: can get a truck down there if you don't care
Speaker 3: about your paint. But it's weird because they were like
Speaker 3: maybe chairs or people would sit and fish at one
Speaker 3: point in time. And to the back, probably about fifty
Speaker 3: feet into the tree line on the side of the trail,
Speaker 3: there's all scrub pine, just you know, quarner in, just
Speaker 3: young pine trees and they're all the whole road for
Speaker 3: about fifteen feet the whole top. Like if you're if
Speaker 3: you were to go hunting and you would sit down
Speaker 3: the woods, you you would snap trees off around so
Speaker 3: you get a shooting lane, you know, a vision. And
Speaker 3: this is exactly what this was like. For about fifteen feet.
Speaker 3: All the trees have been snapped off at the top
Speaker 3: of all four feet off the ground and all right, okay,
Speaker 3: I could see maybe somebody would be hunting would do
Speaker 3: the same thing. But it's you overlook in the lake.
Speaker 3: The lake is about twenty feet up. You know, there's
Speaker 3: a there's a there's a shed or a shack, and
Speaker 3: then there's a lake. So you have maybe thirty feet
Speaker 3: You're not gonna see many game animals so I thought
Speaker 3: it was odd, uh that something would actually snap off
Speaker 3: all these tree limbs, almost like it was something sitting
Speaker 3: there observing who was in the shed at one point
Speaker 3: in time. A little creepy, uh. But after we looked
Speaker 3: at it and like, this is not normal. No, it
Speaker 3: was not normal. And they weren't cut with a shedy
Speaker 3: that was snapped broken off, and there were still brown
Speaker 3: needles on the tree, so had not been that long ago.
Speaker 3: But this this area is very active from what and
Speaker 3: it really upsets the fact that we I mean I
Speaker 3: have access, I have four wheels and whatnot, but I
Speaker 3: don't even know if I can get up there to
Speaker 3: four wheels since the bridge get washed out. And it's
Speaker 3: really Uh, we were doing an overnight investigation at the
Speaker 3: bottom half about three three years ago. Two or three
Speaker 3: years ago, we were doing an overnight investigation. We were
Speaker 3: really wanted to get up to the pond, but we couldn't,
Speaker 3: so we said, well, we'll set up here and you know,
Speaker 3: we'll just doing an investigation from down here. And this
Speaker 3: guy comes through with a Jeep seventy nine Golden Eagle,
Speaker 3: I mean classic classic Jeep forty four is on it.
Speaker 3: I mean just the thing was meant to be where
Speaker 3: it was, and the guy, like I said, you're not
Speaker 3: going to have any luck with that jeep getting up
Speaker 3: that trail. He goes, I'll find out for myself. I'm like, you,
Speaker 3: not yourself out, and I'll say it. Within a half
Speaker 3: an hour after he got off the rocks, he came
Speaker 3: back through his say, yeah, we're not getting up that trail.
Speaker 3: So it's kind there is a walking trail to give
Speaker 3: him in the backside. My buddy and I have been
Speaker 3: all over that mountain with a jeep and we cannot
Speaker 3: find another way to get to that pond. And I'm
Speaker 3: not able to walk four miles up there. But where
Speaker 3: we have where we are here in May, we've had
Speaker 3: a lot of activity. We were my wife and I
Speaker 3: were sitting out here just last summer. Uh sitting on
Speaker 3: a porch. It's three season windowed porch and uh, just
Speaker 3: sitting here mine O business, playing on Facebook, I guess.
Speaker 3: And next thing you know, it is rock It's the house.
Speaker 2: Sounded like a gun.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know how I didn't break a window.
Speaker 3: I really, I'll be honest with My wife got up
Speaker 3: and screamed at it. Whatever it was left. But I
Speaker 3: mean we found a rock on the edge of the driveway.
Speaker 2: On lawn because because our where we are, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of white sand beaches around the lakes and rivers
Speaker 2: and our driveway is basically all sand. So finding a
Speaker 2: rock wasn't that hard. And it was a small rock,
Speaker 2: and uh I put it in our little garden on
Speaker 2: top of a big white rock that we had gotten
Speaker 2: from western Massachusetts, and uh I put it on and
Speaker 2: it was gone the next day, and I found it
Speaker 2: and I put it back, and it was gone the
Speaker 2: next day and I found it and I put it
Speaker 2: back and it finally stayed. But I mean, it was
Speaker 2: not gone gone. It was just like a foot away
Speaker 2: from the other rock, like it had been knocked off.
Speaker 2: And I don't think.
Speaker 3: The squirrel would have been no, and it's it's fenced
Speaker 3: in anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fenced in. So it was just weird
Speaker 2: and anyway, so we had the rock. But yeah, it
Speaker 2: sounded like a gunshot. I am telling you it would.
Speaker 2: It was loud, loud, it had velocity and it was
Speaker 2: not like a child. It was loud.
Speaker 3: So this is this is pretty cool. We came up
Speaker 3: last week just before Fourth of July and I bought
Speaker 3: an American flag with a new flagpole to put on
Speaker 3: the porch, and so I did that. I think it
Speaker 3: was the day before fourth July, two days before, so
Speaker 3: it was last week Wednesday, I guess. And I don't
Speaker 3: know if you've ever put a flag on a flagpole,
Speaker 3: but the clips are unbearable. I have arthritis and my
Speaker 3: thing isn't It took me, I would say, good fifteen
Speaker 3: minutes to get these grommets clipped onto the flag pole.
Speaker 3: It was a pain in the butt. And uh so
Speaker 3: I put it up. I screwed it on the side
Speaker 3: of the porch, and I was pretty happy with him.
Speaker 3: I got no very patriotic and uh my wife got
Speaker 3: up the next morning to let the dogs out and
Speaker 3: she's like, hey, if your flag's on the ground, She's like,
Speaker 3: what could have flags on the ground. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking maybe the wind tow of the fabric. And
Speaker 3: they flopped around and both clips were unclipped. Nothing was
Speaker 3: ripped on the flag whatsoever. And the flag was just
Speaker 3: placed on the ground ripe below the flagpole. And there's
Speaker 3: no way because I put enough flag back up. I'm like,
Speaker 3: there's no way that thing, haymine clip And then oddly enough,
Speaker 3: my wife's like, hey, come on and check the driveway.
Speaker 3: And we have a sand we have a dirt driveway,
Speaker 3: and we had a footprint which I have photographed as well,
Speaker 3: a barefootprint.
Speaker 2: You can pick out the toes.
Speaker 3: You could see the toes definitively see the toes, and
Speaker 3: she marked the two unk owns. Looking at the footprint,
Speaker 3: it was a juvenile. It was maybe a little bit
Speaker 3: bigger than my foot, a little bit wider than my foot,
Speaker 3: probably twelve thirteen uh and we've I have photographs of
Speaker 3: eighteen plus footprints. It was seven foot seven foot wide, uh.
Speaker 2: No seven foot span between.
Speaker 3: Sixty four inch span between footprints, so a heck of
Speaker 3: a stride on the adults. This one, I would say
Speaker 3: it was just one definitive print before it got onto
Speaker 3: the lawn. But that was odd because it literally took
Speaker 3: me another twenty minutes put the flag back up on
Speaker 3: the hooks and there was nothing torn. It was nothing ripped.
Speaker 3: That wasn't that windy that would make that happen. So
Speaker 3: that was that's our latest experience.
Speaker 2: We've also had last year we had some experiences in
Speaker 2: the backyard I was, well, we put an apple out there,
Speaker 2: because as honestly, you're not supposed to bath them, but
Speaker 2: you know, whatever, we did. So we put it on
Speaker 2: an apple out there, and nothing ever touched it was
Speaker 2: on top of a canoe and nothing ever touched it,
Speaker 2: and it was starting to get rotten, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't want it, you know, getting rotten on the
Speaker 2: bottom of the canoe. So I picked it up. I
Speaker 2: threw it into the woods, and the course of my
Speaker 2: dog was like, oh, is not a ball, So he
Speaker 2: was started to run after it. And when he ran
Speaker 2: after it, there's a place in the woods about one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards and there's somebody dumped an old
Speaker 2: oil tank back there, and a tree went down, like
Speaker 2: a tree went down, like it went bang down. And
Speaker 2: at that point I'm like, okay, let's go back. And
Speaker 2: I called dog back, and he's a rottweiler, so you know,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter because these things don't really care.
Speaker 2: And so I called him back. And then at that
Speaker 2: night we were out and I'd say it was around
Speaker 2: nine o'clock and we started taking pictures and we get
Speaker 2: a picture of an orb, a couple of orbs, and
Speaker 2: they were just like flying around. It was happened to
Speaker 2: be a full moment, and they were just like flying
Speaker 2: around and up and down all these crazy features. And
Speaker 2: we took a couple of pictures that afternoon and you
Speaker 2: can definitively see a face up in the up in
Speaker 2: the branches. It had to be about ten or twelve
Speaker 2: feet high, and it matched the photo that was taken
Speaker 2: down by the river that one time when we were
Speaker 2: taking pictures of the wash out and my son saw
Speaker 2: it and he's like, well, that doesn't look like a
Speaker 2: big but that looks more like a gnome because it's
Speaker 2: very black and it's definitive and you can see the
Speaker 2: nose and the eyes and you can see it's just there.
Speaker 2: You can see it, and it's watching us. And that
Speaker 2: was an that was I guess the afternoon, because you
Speaker 2: don't really take pictures at night. We don't really go
Speaker 2: out at night too much because because I don't want to.
Speaker 2: And so we posted the pictures of the orb online
Speaker 2: and somebody said, oh, that's a shine reflection of the
Speaker 2: moon is shine. So I froze the video and I
Speaker 2: blew it up, and that is not a reflection. It
Speaker 2: has it is not a reflection. You have to see
Speaker 2: the picture. It was bouncing all around and it is
Speaker 2: not is it has it almost looks metallic. It almost
Speaker 2: looks it's like it has two two eyes, not eyes,
Speaker 2: but two all right. So if you had fly eyes,
Speaker 2: because of all of the little capsules and everything in
Speaker 2: a fly's eyes, it looked like two flies eyes on
Speaker 2: a spear. And that is not a reflection of anything.
Speaker 2: So we've had that, and uh, always get the naysayers.
Speaker 2: And then one time when my husband was he was
Speaker 2: in the hospital because he broke his hip. Well, the
Speaker 2: dog broke his hip, and uh, I got home from
Speaker 2: the hospital late with my son because my son came
Speaker 2: up to check on him. And I was out in
Speaker 2: the driveway and I have a special whistle for my dog.
Speaker 2: It's not because you know, sometimes you get these people
Speaker 2: there like, hey, I'll just whistle for the dog and
Speaker 2: they'll come to me. Well, so now we have a
Speaker 2: special whistle, which is come. And I was out in
Speaker 2: the yard and it was after nine o'clock at night,
Speaker 2: which I don't particularly like to go out at night,
Speaker 2: and I whistled for him, and something whistled back my whistle.
Speaker 2: The whistle that I made, I mean the tomb that
Speaker 2: I made up, and I just like okay, and I
Speaker 2: grabbed the dog and we both went in. And he
Speaker 2: didn't even like he's like no, I want to stay out. No,
Speaker 2: he was like, okay, let's go in. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: and then I was out here on the porch one time,
Speaker 2: and this is odd. I was just sitting here reading
Speaker 2: and I heard mommy and I'm like, oh, last weird
Speaker 2: and it went mommy, and I'm like, okay, it went
Speaker 2: and then it started going momy, like it had two
Speaker 2: different voices, like one was really deep and it went mommy,
Speaker 2: and then it stopped and I was like, well that
Speaker 2: that's really weird. And I went in and I was
Speaker 2: like did you hear that? He was in the bathroom,
Speaker 2: which is right off the porch. I'm like, did you
Speaker 2: hear that? And he's like I did, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: it was. He's just like, yeah, no, that wasn't natural. Now,
Speaker 2: we've had mockingbirds, and mockingbirds are different. Mockingbirds are. We
Speaker 2: had a mocking bird that would say Eric, it'll go
Speaker 2: Eric here Eric, and it will be from one tree
Speaker 2: to another tree to another tree, and you could hear it,
Speaker 2: and it was it was a mocking bird. This was
Speaker 2: not a mocking bird.
Speaker 3: This was.
Speaker 2: Just weird and unsettling because it went from mommy like
Speaker 2: a child's voice to a mommy like a weird like
Speaker 2: like he couldn't control its voice or whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was just very strange. So, yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Both are two different two different sides of the house,
Speaker 3: which is pretty odd.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've had a one night during the night
Speaker 2: that this is weird and I don't usually talk about this.
Speaker 2: We were out there during the full moon when we
Speaker 2: were taking the pictures of the orb and everything, and
Speaker 2: there's a tree, very very tall pine tree, and the
Speaker 2: top is just by itself and you can see through
Speaker 2: the branches. It's a big pine tree. And I looked
Speaker 2: up there and there was something in the top of
Speaker 2: that pine tree. It was black and there was something
Speaker 2: in the top of that pine tree. And I called
Speaker 2: Eric and he doesn't move that fast, and I watched it.
Speaker 2: It went from black, like the whole top of the
Speaker 2: tree was black, like you couldn't see through it. It was black,
Speaker 2: and then it just like slowly phased out, like it
Speaker 2: just phased out, like it went from black to now
Speaker 2: you can see through all the train, you can see
Speaker 2: the branches, and it was just extremely strange. And yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, yeah, there's weird things that happen up here
Speaker 2: all the time, and so yeah, we try not to
Speaker 2: go out at night, at least I try not to
Speaker 2: go out at night anymore. There was another time where
Speaker 2: our dog, he's a rott Whiler, but you know, rott
Speaker 2: Wilers have many different personalities, and he's a baby, well
Speaker 2: he's a baby, but he's incredibly protective. He just, yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't have neighbors come over unannounced. So there's this
Speaker 2: group of trees on the side of our driveway and
Speaker 2: I've always felt odd about it. And sometimes it's like black,
Speaker 2: like you can't see through it, like it's like really dense,
Speaker 2: and other times you can see light through it. And
Speaker 2: not long after we had the orbs and everything happened
Speaker 2: in the backyard. My dog, which is I don't know
Speaker 2: if you have dogs or not, but that's his poop
Speaker 2: area and he would go over there to poop, and
Speaker 2: he didn't. He stayed about twenty feet away, and if
Speaker 2: he was a pointer, he would have been pointing at it.
Speaker 2: His head was down he wasn't moving, he was just
Speaker 2: stopped still, just stopped, and just like stared and stared
Speaker 2: and stared at that particular group of thick trees. And yeah,
Speaker 2: so I kind of figured that there was something there
Speaker 2: that maybe he shouldn't be getting into. And he kind
Speaker 2: of thought the same thing too. So after a few
Speaker 2: minutes and I called him back and I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're not going to go down there today. And then
Speaker 2: after a day it was fine, and he went back
Speaker 2: and he had his in a little poop spot and
Speaker 2: everything seemed to be fine. But there, what I really
Speaker 2: want to say is that they are literally around you
Speaker 2: all the time. Whether you know it or not, they
Speaker 2: are around you. This is kind of funny. When I
Speaker 2: was a very small child up here in Maine, I
Speaker 2: would sneak We have one of those old Franklin wood stove,
Speaker 2: so that tells you I was probably five at the time,
Speaker 2: and I would sneak underneath the wood stove. And there
Speaker 2: was a time now we're talking sixty years ago, maybe
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty, nineteen seventy, yeah, early mid sixties, and maybe
Speaker 2: it's I don't know, doesn't matter. So I would hide
Speaker 2: under there, and there was this one time where if
Speaker 2: you know anything about may or about the old generation,
Speaker 2: the men folk came over one night, the men folk.
Speaker 2: The women folk were not invited. The women folk were
Speaker 2: not invited, which was weird because it was in the kitchen,
Speaker 2: so it was just weird. And the men folk came
Speaker 2: over and there was my grandfather and my uncles and
Speaker 2: a couple of my older cousins, so they didn't know
Speaker 2: I was underneath the stove, and they were talking about
Speaker 2: going out and getting the wood booker. Uh no, it
Speaker 2: wasn't a wood booker. What did they call it, oh,
Speaker 2: a wood devil? A wood devil. They were talking about
Speaker 2: going out and getting the wood devil. And they all
Speaker 2: came in. And the other thing that was weird was
Speaker 2: even at five years old, I knew that nobody, nobody
Speaker 2: wore boots in Grandma's kitchen. Nobody. And they came in.
Speaker 2: They had the boots and they had the guns, and
Speaker 2: they were all gun out and they were going to
Speaker 2: get the wood devil. And you know, I was like
Speaker 2: five or six, and at the time I was thinking
Speaker 2: bugs Bunny, the Tasmanian devil. I'm like, why would they
Speaker 2: be going after a Tasmanian you know, I mean I
Speaker 2: was six years old, but I specifically remember them in
Speaker 2: the kitchen talking about going after the wood devil. And
Speaker 2: you know, at six years old, I had no I
Speaker 2: didn't know. I just put it to bugs bunny, you know,
Speaker 2: the Tasmanian devil, and so I always thought that was weird,
Speaker 2: because yeah, it was just a weird thing that.
Speaker 3: Never they never put it together till pubably a couple
Speaker 3: of years back. Now, yeah, it make sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it was they've been up here, They've
Speaker 2: been up here for years. They're probably going to be
Speaker 2: up here until we leave. And yeah, so yeah, we've
Speaker 2: had a lot of experiences. I wish I could send
Speaker 2: you some of the pictures, especially the ORB because that's
Speaker 2: that's weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if if you ever be more than happy to share.
Speaker 3: We do have vocalizations that I've recorded, We do have
Speaker 3: the ORBS photographs, we have photos. So I mean, as
Speaker 3: far as that goes, we have we have enough evidence
Speaker 3: that it makes us happy. And then the fact that
Speaker 3: we belong to a couple different associations and we see
Speaker 3: what people gather out there for info. We've been you know,
Speaker 3: on on the channels listening to Discovery all that we've
Speaker 3: we've seen them, done them.
Speaker 2: Well, we don't even listen to those anymore. This stupid.
Speaker 2: We just yeah, if we can find them off a
Speaker 2: logging trail in our backyard.
Speaker 3: What some of these guys they go there in the.
Speaker 2: Broad and broad daylight because we don't go out at night.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's not they're not that hard if once
Speaker 3: you find out what you're looking for. Uh, And we
Speaker 3: we do it all the time. My buddy comes up
Speaker 3: and uh, I won't say, he lives in Massachusetts. We'll
Speaker 3: talk about that, but he comes up and won't. We'll
Speaker 3: jump in. We all have full wheel drives and whatnot,
Speaker 3: full wheels, and so we go up and wait, wait,
Speaker 3: we have fun with it anyway. It's a hobby of art.
Speaker 2: So there was this We were out back roading one time.
Speaker 2: It was a logging trail and my husband couldn't walk
Speaker 2: very well at the time. But there's this beautiful little beach.
Speaker 2: I mean, you just walk down this wash out and
Speaker 2: it's just like this beautiful little beach. I don't know,
Speaker 2: it looks like paradise to me. And it's you know,
Speaker 2: there's ferns around the edge. And then there's this white
Speaker 2: pebble beach and then there's sand and it's just this
Speaker 2: little nice river running through and it's just a beautiful area.
Speaker 2: So and he couldn't make it down there, so I
Speaker 2: wanted to go down there and take pictures to show
Speaker 2: him what it was like, you know, for when he
Speaker 2: got better and he could come down and look at it.
Speaker 2: And so I was down there by myself and he
Speaker 2: is up in the truck. Like you have to walk
Speaker 2: up a pretty steep hill to get up a washout, Yeah,
Speaker 2: three four hundred yards up this, and I got walked out.
Speaker 2: There was something pacing me. And I am telling you
Speaker 2: right now that when people say that they were paced
Speaker 2: out and you're listening to it on the radio or
Speaker 2: you're listening to it wherever, they're like, oh, somebody walked out,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, it's really scary. Like by the
Speaker 2: time I got to the truck, I'm like okay, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, well, I just don't have the door locked.
Speaker 2: Just let me in. And I jumped in there and
Speaker 2: I was just like breathing for a few minutes, and
Speaker 2: like I just got walked out. I just got paste
Speaker 2: out and he's like from where I'm like, from down there,
Speaker 2: So uh, it was scary. So the next time somebody
Speaker 2: says they were paste out, not so much fun. So,
Speaker 2: and that was an area where we am where we
Speaker 2: saw where we didn't see them that you know they're
Speaker 2: there after a while, you just kind of like know
Speaker 2: they're there. They're like when you look into the trees
Speaker 2: and you see something that's blacker than black, Like there's
Speaker 2: dense forest and you can still see light through it,
Speaker 2: but when there's blacker than black, that they're there. And
Speaker 2: we were not far from that area, and uh yeah
Speaker 2: they were. They were there, and we had a rock
Speaker 2: thrown at the truck down there, and uh yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's scarier than you think. So yeah, so don't always
Speaker 2: go looking for them, especially at night. You got to
Speaker 2: be respectful. So I think that about does it for us.
Speaker 2: I think that's about all of our experiences. We're probably
Speaker 2: forgetting a few because it's just been so many, but
Speaker 2: those are the ones that stand out.
Speaker 1: Now that you've known what it's like to have them
Speaker 1: around as almost a constant presence for all these years,
Speaker 1: do you think your life would be boring? Now if
Speaker 1: they weren't around, Well, I'll.
Speaker 3: Tell you what. When I when I'm over the lawn
Speaker 3: out back, I always have my eyes a tree line.
Speaker 3: I'll pay honest with yes, no that you doing.
Speaker 1: I don't blame you. If you've had a bigfoot sighting
Speaker 1: and I would like to be a guest, please go
Speaker 1: to bigfoote witness dot com and let me know hid
Speaker 1: when the bear was staring at that huge sasquatch at
Speaker 1: the lake that day, did the beer seem to be
Speaker 1: more fearful of the sasquatch or more so just trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what it was that it was looking at.
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what. It was sitting down and
Speaker 2: it was staring at that sasquatch like we were there.
Speaker 2: You would think a bear would look at us because
Speaker 2: we were making noise, and he was not interested in
Speaker 2: us at all. He was glued to whatever that was.
Speaker 2: And I mean his air, his ears weren't back, he
Speaker 2: wasn't moving, but he was just like zoned in on that.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it was kind of like, I don't
Speaker 2: know how to say it to you. It wasn't like
Speaker 2: he wasn't moving. He sat there for quite a while
Speaker 2: and he just scared at it. I don't know if
Speaker 2: he was too scared to move or if he wanted
Speaker 2: to move or whatnot. But that particular area, on that
Speaker 2: particular day, we have a lot of pictures of evidence,
Speaker 2: and somebody said that it was a what do they
Speaker 2: call it where they have babies, a nursery for it,
Speaker 2: because they had somebody who was looking at the pictures
Speaker 2: and going, there's a lot there, and they were saying
Speaker 2: that it looks like a nursery, and that particular sasquatch
Speaker 2: that the bear was looking at was on the say,
Speaker 2: it was on the right side of the lake, and
Speaker 2: the saasquatch, the huge sasasquatch I saw, was on the
Speaker 2: left side of the lake. It was almost like they
Speaker 2: were protecting the area. And that was when we kind
Speaker 2: of got like, uh, walked out, like shown the way
Speaker 2: to go out. There were various various big ones there,
Speaker 2: but they were definitely yeah, I usually mirror the whole
Speaker 2: way home. Yeah, yeah, they were.
Speaker 3: They were. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Somebody said was a nursery, and that would make complete
Speaker 2: sense because there were so many large males in one area.
Speaker 2: And like I said, that was the top area where
Speaker 2: the lake was, and then there were definitive huge crosses
Speaker 2: like the trees were like the crosses were easy fifteen
Speaker 2: twenty feet tall. And I did go in and look
Speaker 2: at them, just to make sure that they didn't have
Speaker 2: like a tree fall. So I went in and looked
Speaker 2: at the roots, and there were no roots. Nothing fell.
Speaker 2: They were placed there. So, like my husband said, I
Speaker 2: think there was a clan on the top and another
Speaker 2: clan on the bottom. I can't definitively say so because
Speaker 2: I don't know that much about sasquatch, but it would
Speaker 2: make sense to us because it was definitely another clan
Speaker 2: on the bottom. But yeah, so it's been, it's been
Speaker 2: kind of wild, and that's uh yeah. So, like I said,
Speaker 2: we don't go out at night. I wish I could
Speaker 2: send you the pictures of those orbs, because like I said,
Speaker 2: it was weird. They weren't. It wasn't reflective, it wasn't shine.
Speaker 2: It was when we blew it up. It was definitely
Speaker 2: a sphere, not a round sphere, but like an oval
Speaker 2: sphere with like two bug eyes on one end. And
Speaker 2: that's the best way I can say it, like fly eyes.
Speaker 2: So it was very strange. And then the photo that
Speaker 2: we have from the backyard looks a lot like the
Speaker 2: photo that we got when we were taking pictures of
Speaker 2: the washed out bridge. They don't necessarily look like the
Speaker 2: SaaS quatch you've seen because the pictures of the one
Speaker 2: in the back it looks like he doesn't have any
Speaker 2: fur on his face. He's black, like not like black,
Speaker 2: but like ebony, like a dark ebony. And uh yeah,
Speaker 2: and like my son said, it looks like a troll.
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like uh oh yeah. I forgot to
Speaker 2: mention that we had we also have a I don't
Speaker 2: know how to explain it little people. Well, I don't
Speaker 2: know how there.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have put this together.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I was out here on the porch last summer, and
Speaker 3: my truck is usually part facing the barn, and I
Speaker 3: happened to look out for whatever reason it was, and
Speaker 3: I saw it what look like a little butt running
Speaker 3: past my from underneath my truck towards the barn. And
Speaker 3: the barn's riddled with tiger lilies and whatnot, so there's
Speaker 3: a lot of ground faun it. And I did really
Speaker 3: put two and two together that day, but I mentioned
Speaker 3: it to my wife and like that was odd and
Speaker 3: I really, it was that quick. It happened so quick.
Speaker 3: And then we would listening to some sort of a
Speaker 3: podcast I think, well maybe six months ago, and they
Speaker 3: started talking about little people and I'm like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: and so remember that thing I saw last summer and
Speaker 3: it looked like the butt end and it.
Speaker 2: Was it was. The podcast was about the triangle in massapon.
Speaker 3: The yeah, about the triangle in Massachusetts what they call it,
Speaker 3: the Dinnington Triangle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And they were
Speaker 3: talking about little people and I'm like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: and I'm not uh fixated on little people.
Speaker 5: It just never occurred to me. But then I said,
Speaker 5: thinking about it, I'm like, wait a minute, I think
Speaker 5: I saw one.
Speaker 3: And it was just it was happened so quick, you know,
Speaker 3: it was it was, it was gone, and I really
Speaker 3: didn't dwell on it. And I didn't you know, I
Speaker 3: hadn't seen it before, and I wouldn't have even thought
Speaker 3: about it until I heard the podcast and they were
Speaker 3: talking about the triangle and the little people. And so
Speaker 3: I mentioned to my buddy Greg, I'm like, hey, have you.
Speaker 5: Ever heard of these these things?
Speaker 3: And Greg's like, yeah, definitely, because I really don't know
Speaker 3: that much about them. But now I'm intrigued because, like
Speaker 3: I said, behind the house, there's it's it's God's country.
Speaker 5: Back there, there's you know, bear.
Speaker 3: This, dear this moves. And now, like I said, what
Speaker 3: all the activity you have when I'm up the mulling
Speaker 3: the lawn and whatnot, stacking wood. I always keep one
Speaker 3: eye over my shoulder out these days, just you.
Speaker 1: Know, I well, that's understandable. As if it wasn't exciting
Speaker 1: enough to have the sasquatch around, now you know you
Speaker 1: have little people around.
Speaker 3: Holy cow, That's all I can affiliate it with because I,
Speaker 3: like I said, I've I've done those in my entire life,
Speaker 3: and I've seen pretty much every fur bearing creator there is.
Speaker 5: If I haven't had it hanging on my wall. But
Speaker 5: this really alluded me.
Speaker 3: I can't explain it until, like I said, I mentioned
Speaker 3: it to my buddy Greg and He's like, Yep, I've
Speaker 3: heard of those. And it all kind of came to
Speaker 3: puition when I heard about the triangle in the Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: which I've known of for quite some time.
Speaker 5: We've done I've done a lot of work.
Speaker 3: Out in that area Western mass the Coven Reservoir area.
Speaker 5: I've done. There's a lot of land out there. Oh
Speaker 5: my god.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's like there's something else now that we're
Speaker 3: totally unaware of. But you know, only you're not a
Speaker 3: lot of people talk about them. You know, they're not
Speaker 3: as popular as the wolf Man and it was a Sasquatch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not as many people talk about them. But as
Speaker 1: you know, you're listening to that one podcast, people do.
Speaker 1: So it's hard to say where your experiences with these
Speaker 1: little guys are going to go in the upcoming years.
Speaker 1: You might have more experiences with them down the road
Speaker 1: than you've had with sasquatch. It's just really hard to say.
Speaker 3: What's odd is like I said, I I spent a
Speaker 3: lot of time in the woods. I don't as much
Speaker 3: now because i can't get around, but I've got three
Speaker 3: stands all around in my backyard. I'm If I'm not
Speaker 3: in the three stand during hunt season, I'm not, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm working. And then I usually take my vacation during
Speaker 3: hunting seasons. And I spent a tremendous amount of time
Speaker 3: in the woods as a kid. You know, that's all
Speaker 3: you did. You know, as you know, growing up in
Speaker 3: the in the eighties, whatnot there were no cell phones.
Speaker 3: You got you you went up with your buddies all
Speaker 3: day along the woods, you played tree tag, whatever you
Speaker 3: did out there, and I never I never, if I had,
Speaker 3: i'd never you know, dawned on me.
Speaker 5: But now, like I said, now that it's more prominent,
Speaker 5: Like I said.
Speaker 3: I think, what was it in search of back in
Speaker 3: the seventies, Leonard Damoy, But it was about the first
Speaker 3: time you ever heard about well that and the uh,
Speaker 3: the two guys out there in the creek Pendleton, I
Speaker 3: guess this is his name there.
Speaker 5: Pattison films.
Speaker 3: It was about all you had growing up as a
Speaker 3: kid as far as evidence went. And then of course
Speaker 3: now it's a lot more prominence, a lot more people
Speaker 3: talking about it.
Speaker 5: And like you said, we joined. I can't tell you
Speaker 5: how many chapters I've joined, but a lot of it.
Speaker 5: You know, you hear people.
Speaker 3: Here out there there there laundry, and it's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: Like I said, we belonged to a couple of chapters.
Speaker 3: And it's like some of the people you you hang with,
Speaker 3: they're like, yeah, no, they're not not on your level.
Speaker 3: And it's taken us a long time.
Speaker 5: To gain to get where we are uh, and confidence
Speaker 5: and knowing what we're what to look for now. And
Speaker 5: so it's it's a it's a it's a cool hobby.
Speaker 3: It's it's a lot of fun. Like I said, we
Speaker 3: have a sasquatch for our little box. It has all
Speaker 3: the castings and our infrared parabolics and you know, we'll
Speaker 3: stay out here tonight. We'll just you know, shut everything off,
Speaker 3: we'll listen to We'll just put a parabolics on for
Speaker 3: about an hour or so and just listen to the woods.
Speaker 3: And you'd be amazed what you hear that's not normal?
Speaker 1: Well, I can only imagine the things that you hear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the fact, we've had chances to record a
Speaker 3: few of the vocalizations.
Speaker 5: Like I said, I was out here one night. I'm like,
Speaker 5: is that tonight that I did?
Speaker 3: And I got out and got my cell phone and
Speaker 3: I was able to actually capture a howl uh across
Speaker 3: the street. I roa is probably about one hundred feet
Speaker 3: from my driveway. So, and then beyond that is this
Speaker 3: mountain range. So and these things echo and we have coyotes,
Speaker 3: don't get me.
Speaker 5: I have coyotes running up, up and down.
Speaker 3: Hear them chasing deer all the time, especially when when
Speaker 3: the time you're home run deer and there's a difference
Speaker 3: between a coyote howl and let's ask watch college.
Speaker 5: You'll hear yips, yikes, yaps and.
Speaker 3: Barks and whatnot, and then you had this howl that
Speaker 3: you have to have a lung capacity of a fifty
Speaker 3: gallon blown to get out.
Speaker 5: That's how long these things are. Let go for it.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, you smokes, that's some one capacity. And
Speaker 3: we've farn them on several occasions. We go up to
Speaker 3: Errol in New Hampshire, which is northern, you know, the
Speaker 3: northern part of the state, and there's a big there's
Speaker 3: big ranges out there you can just sit on and
Speaker 3: and do your your calling and whatnot, and you'll hit it.
Speaker 3: Every once in a while you'll get a call back
Speaker 3: and uh, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cool, doesn't do it any justice. That's something else. Eric,
Speaker 1: you told us about those overnight investigations that you and
Speaker 1: Hidey go on. When you go on them, though, do
Speaker 1: you have any concerns about your safety?
Speaker 3: I carry a forty five slide arm, not that it
Speaker 3: will probably penetrate one. But it's at least it's something.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have an arsenal. But when they when
Speaker 3: we do the and again I don't pipping around the
Speaker 3: woods is not my forte anymore, especially in the dark
Speaker 3: and we have the miners lamps and all that whatnot.
Speaker 3: But I will typically hang out of camp and keep
Speaker 3: the fire rolling. And uh you hear you can hear
Speaker 3: plenty from the camp. You don't need to go trip
Speaker 3: around the woods applying evidence. But no, I I mean
Speaker 3: most of the people that that that you do these excursions,
Speaker 3: the experienced ones will carry their pack.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: Also, as you know talking about sitting around camp, you're
Speaker 1: probably gonna have more luck with them just coming to
Speaker 1: you than most people would have beating off into the
Speaker 1: bushes looking for this is.
Speaker 3: This is ninety percent of the luck I think is
Speaker 3: they're they're carrious by nature. From more I can gather,
Speaker 3: they're more curious about you than you are them. And
Speaker 3: like I said, ninety percent of my our action is
Speaker 3: just random shots. They're there. I can't tell you how
Speaker 3: many times I probably walk by them and not known.
Speaker 3: So when you you you just go out random areas
Speaker 3: and will take some take some random pol video or
Speaker 3: photos and then go home for you fifty in screen
Speaker 3: TV and you start dissecting. You're like, oh, well he smokes.
Speaker 3: You know, so they're watching you the whole time you're
Speaker 3: out there. You may not realize it.
Speaker 2: Eric used to make fun of me because I had
Speaker 2: a spidery sense and I would know when they were around,
Speaker 2: because you do after a while, you just kind of
Speaker 2: do you know when they're around. So the first places
Speaker 2: that we went where the two clans were, everything was
Speaker 2: fine until you know that one time they're like, okay,
Speaker 2: you're getting annoying. And then we left. And then the
Speaker 2: other place that we went and I walked out on
Speaker 2: that place was very I don't want to say benevolent,
Speaker 2: but it was you could tell they did not want
Speaker 2: you there. It was just you got a bad feeling
Speaker 2: and they did not want you there, and it was
Speaker 2: like okay. And I do believe that there are different
Speaker 2: ones different you know, like humans, there some that are
Speaker 2: patient and others that aren't. So the ones around our house,
Speaker 2: I believe are they know we're here, curious, they're curious,
Speaker 2: and you don't get any sense of danger or anything
Speaker 2: like that. It's I don't go out there at night,
Speaker 2: just because some of the faces that we've seen in
Speaker 2: the woods are very scary. And then having that whistle
Speaker 2: back that one night, that was not cool. That was
Speaker 2: not cool when you're out there and you give a
Speaker 2: whistle to your dog and something whistles back at you
Speaker 2: and you're like, no, that was not fun at all.
Speaker 2: So there are times like that, But I do believe
Speaker 2: that there are some that are just like, don't come
Speaker 2: near us, which is where I feel like I was
Speaker 2: walked out, and like the ones around our house. I
Speaker 2: mean it's cool. I don't go high in the woods
Speaker 2: around the house. I don't go hiking in the woods
Speaker 2: without at least another person and a dog, just because
Speaker 2: you want to know what's there. And the other interesting
Speaker 2: thing is that we don't have bears raccoons. We have
Speaker 2: nothing around our house. Down in southern New Hampshire, we
Speaker 2: have bears and raccoons because they're constantly in our trash
Speaker 2: and it's hard to keep them out. But up here
Speaker 2: where you see bear in the woods and you see
Speaker 2: bear tracks, we don't have them around at all. They
Speaker 2: don't come around the yard. There's nothing, So I find
Speaker 2: that very odd. Find that very odd, and it's just
Speaker 2: one of those things that you know, I mean, you
Speaker 2: might not even think about it, but if you put
Speaker 2: all the clues together, they're there, and they're definitely, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're here. I mean I've heard them, you know, I
Speaker 2: I've heard them. I've heard them at back and yeah,
Speaker 2: they're definitely here.
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, what an exciting life you two live.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure it's not lost on you. A lot
Speaker 1: of people listening to this would give their left arms
Speaker 1: to trade places with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it is, and it isn't. Uh So it
Speaker 2: is restrictive. So when we first moved up here, and
Speaker 2: you know, YadA YadA, YadA, when I was a kid
Speaker 2: and we were living up here, I'd hike out and
Speaker 2: was all day long, go do this, go do that.
Speaker 2: And now not so much. Now it's like, uh, now
Speaker 2: we'll stay in a yard and we'll.
Speaker 3: Just like I said, you don't even have to leave
Speaker 3: the vehicle to see them.
Speaker 2: You don't, you don't. And that's that's what kind of
Speaker 2: all of these Sasquad shows where they go out and
Speaker 2: they set up these parabolics and they do all this
Speaker 2: and it's like, well they're right there. I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they get scared away by the equipment.
Speaker 3: When I've heard if you ever want to get rid
Speaker 3: of a saasquatch, put it into your camera. Up for
Speaker 3: what I am, they just avoid them like to play.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Back back in the old days, the
Speaker 3: game cameras were real the reel. Uh, they didn't. They
Speaker 3: didn't admit like a sonic like a digital camera does.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm sure they give off some sort of a frequency. Uh.
Speaker 3: In the old days, they did not. That's why they
Speaker 3: were more productive in my opinion. Take it or leave it,
Speaker 3: but that's my opinion.
Speaker 6: I've had trail cameras out my entire life, and I've
Speaker 6: never caught anything on video on a on a game camera.
Speaker 6: Back in the days, back in the early eighties, I
Speaker 6: had real the reels, but I.
Speaker 3: Was never looking for you know, it was not a sasquatch.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: The other thing.
Speaker 2: The other thing that I don't know if people there's
Speaker 2: controversy about this, but they climb trees. They they are
Speaker 2: in trees. They are definitely in trees. Not maybe not
Speaker 2: the big ones, maybe not the twelve footers. But the juveniles, Oh,
Speaker 2: they are in the trees, and if you see one,
Speaker 2: there's definitely definitely more than one around. They don't go
Speaker 2: by themselves, and yeah, so they are family unit and
Speaker 2: they you know, they might not stay right next to
Speaker 2: each other, but it's like kids on a playground. They
Speaker 2: go fifty feet this way, six hundred feet that way, whatever,
Speaker 2: but there's still within an area. And that I definitely
Speaker 2: believe because because they are.
Speaker 7: And you know, the nurseries that we spoke of down
Speaker 7: below the mountain pond, we've got tracks, like I said,
Speaker 7: sixty four inch stride between footprints. Footprints were seventeen inches long,
Speaker 7: seven inches wide, and in the same the same spot,
Speaker 7: we've got these big, good adults. We've got photos of
Speaker 7: juveniles up in trees in the same spot. That's why
Speaker 7: we kind of assumed that it might be a nursery
Speaker 7: of some sort.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like you've got a little bit of everything
Speaker 1: when it comes to sasquatch run your proce property. But
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of a reflection of the idea
Speaker 1: that these guys feel very comfortable there. At least that's
Speaker 1: the impression that I've got. But having said that, I
Speaker 1: can't thank you too enough for coming on and sharing
Speaker 1: all these experiences with us. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a pleasure. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Oh no, you're welcome. It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And remember if I can never help you out, please
Speaker 1: let me know.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds great.
Speaker 1: Great, Well, thanks again so much for your time, and
Speaker 1: have a great night. That's it for another episode of
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Speaker 1: sasquatch encounter and.
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