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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk seven to nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Our second semi final game in the College Football Playoff,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the first year in the twelve team expansion

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<v Speaker 2>is tonight Texas six point dogs against Ohio State, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine Ohio State will cover. I would maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's just getting caught up in how impressive they've looked

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<v Speaker 2>in this event, the College Football Playoff, But I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's more than more of the fact that Texas just

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<v Speaker 2>really they were impressive against Clemson, no doubt, but their

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<v Speaker 2>game against Georgia, I mean, they lost in Georgia was

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<v Speaker 2>the same team that couldn't get past Notre Dame, and

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<v Speaker 2>clearly Notre Dame is a good team. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm wrong and it ends up being close, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm wrong in Texas wins, but I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this Texas team, they are so fortunate to be

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<v Speaker 2>there given the way things played out, and they do

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<v Speaker 2>deserve credit, right. I mean, they were very lucky to

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<v Speaker 2>get a gift meeting the no call on the targeting,

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<v Speaker 2>but they also from then made big plays that completely

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<v Speaker 2>flipped that. I mean, it went from fourth and long,

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<v Speaker 2>they got to score a touchdown or it's over, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the percentage chances of Arizona State winning before

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<v Speaker 2>they snapped that ball and scored their first touchdown in

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<v Speaker 2>overtime had to be like in the nineties high nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's fourth and long and they have to score.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fact that they did that and then came

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<v Speaker 2>out and scored on the very next play in the

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<v Speaker 2>first possession of the second overtime and then got off

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<v Speaker 2>and then made a stop on defense, I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>were that was impressive. It doesn't change the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they were lucky. But still despite that, they they did

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<v Speaker 2>what was needed to do from then on to go

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<v Speaker 2>and win the game. So maybe I'm not giving them

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<v Speaker 2>enough credit, but I just think this Ohio State team

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of rounded into form and they've kind of

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<v Speaker 2>already went through the worst they could go. Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>they lose tonight, their fans are gonna be upset they

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<v Speaker 2>lose tonight, and it's I'm sure you'll hear more people

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<v Speaker 2>coming after Ryan Day. But the energy and I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like the toxicity is probably the better word to use

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<v Speaker 2>than energy that was there after they ended up losing

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<v Speaker 2>the Michigan in the one year where you can't lose

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<v Speaker 2>to Michigan, and you did. I kind of feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they they went through the worst they're going to go through,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're playing loose, They're they're they're confident, and clearly

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<v Speaker 2>they're very, very talented. So I think we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>an Ohio State and Notre Dame championship game, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would I would, I have to take Ohio State. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>with that said, Notre Dame, how about how about a

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<v Speaker 2>season they've had I think Notre Dame and and just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of seeing this new Maybe I'm getting a little

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of myself here. Maybe it's recency biased, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like the way they've they've carried themselves, the brand,

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<v Speaker 2>the old the DNA that they have under Marcus Freeman,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's clearly different than what it was with Brian

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly and Marcus Freeman probably when it comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>just the chops that you have to have to be

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<v Speaker 2>a really good football coach at a really high level.

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<v Speaker 2>When Marcus Freeman was named the head coach at Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame and took over for Brian Kelly, he probably wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>good enough at that point, but they clearly liked everything

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<v Speaker 2>about him, and I feel like when he got hired,

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised they didn't go after a bigger name,

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember kind of understanding, Okay, this guy. He's

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<v Speaker 2>really likable. He's got a lot of charisma. You can

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<v Speaker 2>just tell that he's relatable to his players and that

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<v Speaker 2>players would want to play for him, and that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff really matters, right. That's you know, it's being

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<v Speaker 2>a leader, and we're not in the locker room, so

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<v Speaker 2>we don't see it every day. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>he had all of the things you need to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to be a successful coach at a high level

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<v Speaker 2>other than you know, x's and o's. And not to

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<v Speaker 2>say he didn't have it, but he just hadn't. He'd

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<v Speaker 2>never been head coach before, you didn't know. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's come. I think he the job was so big,

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<v Speaker 2>and he has such a good head about him, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's oh poise that I think he was not afraid

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<v Speaker 2>at all to really really really lean on his coordinators.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Al Golden, former Miami coach. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 2>guy's got a phenomenal defense this year. I mean they've

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<v Speaker 2>been they've been great, and you know, Marcus Freeman, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure he's responsible for that as well, like he's a

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<v Speaker 2>part of it as well. But I just think this

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<v Speaker 2>was a guy that kind of like we're seeing with well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna make the comparison, but when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to to Freeman, he knew, Hey, I just got hired

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time ever to be a head coach

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a freaking Notre Dame and I've taken over

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<v Speaker 2>for a guy who was the most I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>was Brian Kelly. Despite the losses in the postseason and

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<v Speaker 2>getting blown out in some of those games, he was

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<v Speaker 2>still a very successful coach at Notre Dame. In the

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<v Speaker 2>grand scheme of things. You gotta keep in mind, Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame was really really down before he got there, and

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<v Speaker 2>they made some really good runs and had good years.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was a good coach that they did

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<v Speaker 2>not want to lose. And he goes to LSU and

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<v Speaker 2>the vibe was sort of that he felt like he'd

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<v Speaker 2>done all he can do at Notre Dame and he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to go win a national championship. And now Marcus Freeman,

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<v Speaker 2>in his third season, has put this Notre Dame team

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<v Speaker 2>right there with a chance to win the national championship

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<v Speaker 2>and they're good. Clearly they've got talent, but I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feel like, to me, they are they're the team

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<v Speaker 2>of this postseason or this twelve team playoff meeting. And

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say the same about Arizona State,

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<v Speaker 2>who of course, you know, didn't didn't make as deep

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<v Speaker 2>of a run. But this is a group and it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds weird because it's Notre Dame. They usually have their

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<v Speaker 2>their fair share of elite players and they do and

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<v Speaker 2>always will. But I just kind of feel like they

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<v Speaker 2>are kind of embracing the fact that there are people

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<v Speaker 2>that don't think that they belong because they're not in

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<v Speaker 2>a conference and they lost to NIU. There is a

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<v Speaker 2>when these guys who are playing for Notre Dame right

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<v Speaker 2>now and they committed, there was already the stigma about

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame that they you know, they're they're able to

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<v Speaker 2>just get in because they get preferential treatment. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>as good. So there's kind of a chip, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>on the shoulder of this Notre Dame team. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're led by a guy Marcus Freeman, who I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he he looks like a rising star and and he

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<v Speaker 2>had some losses to some teams that Notre Dame should

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<v Speaker 2>never lose to, including one this year against NIU. So

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<v Speaker 2>in his first few years, you know, he was he

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<v Speaker 2>was taking losses in big games, and you know that

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<v Speaker 2>that concerns you. But he was also losing to teams

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<v Speaker 2>that you shouldn't lose to, which concernship. But this year

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was going to be the break, the

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<v Speaker 2>make or break year for him. In year three, I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>with Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame was either going to feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they've got their guy and the future's really bright,

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<v Speaker 2>or they're gonna know, hey, this guy is fine, but

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame to be Notre Dame needs somebody different. And clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>as we stand here today, uh it's it's the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they think they've got a guy who has a really,

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<v Speaker 2>really bright future. So I was pulling for him last night.

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<v Speaker 2>I hated that the under didn't hit and uh, it

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<v Speaker 2>looked good and then all of a sudden game yeah

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<v Speaker 2>and then it and then it didn't And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I hated that, But still I'm happy Notre Dame one.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we get we get Notre Dame in Ohio state.

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<v Speaker 2>What and let's say Ohio State rolls Texas tonight, which

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<v Speaker 2>could happen. There's more there's much better chance of that

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<v Speaker 2>happening than it the other way around. What is the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation from the SEC Loudmouse. I mean, I'm sure, like

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<v Speaker 2>the Fine Baums and Lane Kiffin, they'll they'll just ignore

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<v Speaker 2>it and then continue to come out talking about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five college football as if it's still the league

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<v Speaker 2>that not only is the best, but just has you know,

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<v Speaker 2>is on a different planet compared to everybody else. But

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be proof, not just this year. This year is

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<v Speaker 2>the big proof, but like they'll be there'll be signs

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<v Speaker 2>that since we hit this new world of nil and

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<v Speaker 2>the portal, yeah, you're still great, but the gap is closing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not only not what you believe it is, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not even close to that. So I'm I'm I'm willing

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<v Speaker 2>to acknowledge even if the Big Ten and the independent

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame team play in the title, it'll I'll still

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that I think top to bottom the best

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<v Speaker 2>league in college football is the SEC. They're but with

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<v Speaker 2>that said, I still would like I just want them

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<v Speaker 2>to be humbled there. But I also kind of feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what happens, they won't be because there's just

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<v Speaker 2>a there's an elitist tone from the SEC from certain

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<v Speaker 2>programs for good reason, like Alabama, specifically Alabama. They it's

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're wrong this year, but like you totally understood

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<v Speaker 2>why they feel like they should get the benefit of

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<v Speaker 2>that out because they're Alabama. Well then it played out

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<v Speaker 2>this year where like they they didn't do anything that

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<v Speaker 2>would make anybody think they were worthy of being a

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<v Speaker 2>team that belongs in the playoff. They didn't get in

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<v Speaker 2>and they shouldn't have got it, and then they got

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<v Speaker 2>their ass kicked by Michigan in a bowl game. So

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<v Speaker 2>they thought that they were clearly just better despite the

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<v Speaker 2>losses they had than other teams with a similar record,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's not crazy for them to view

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<v Speaker 2>it that way. I don't think it's crazy for fans

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<v Speaker 2>that aren't Alabama fans to see it that way. But

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<v Speaker 2>then it played out and you were wrong, and they

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<v Speaker 2>probably really let's be real, Haylen Neibor, he's got to

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<v Speaker 2>have he's gonna have to have a good year next year,

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<v Speaker 2>like not like he needs to be really really good

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<v Speaker 2>or they'll start to think they need to make a change.

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<v Speaker 2>So those programs. Alabama is a great example, even Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Georgia, they felt elite and they you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>they were good this year. Nobody would say they weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>But them getting humbled by Notre Dame the way they

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<v Speaker 2>did probably was a was a tough, tough pill to swallow.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are programs that have earned I think, a

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<v Speaker 2>level of benefit of the doubt. But then there's other

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<v Speaker 2>teams like what is lank link Kiffin thinks he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that should be given the benefit of the

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<v Speaker 2>doubt when quite literally, his whole career has been mostly

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<v Speaker 2>off of flash and not substance. Lank Kiffin, other than

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<v Speaker 2>this year when they beat Georgia, he'd never won a

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<v Speaker 2>game he wasn't supposed to win. I mean, lank kifvin

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<v Speaker 2>was winning all the games he's supposed to win, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>really ugly, he'd compete against good teams. But like liank Kiffin,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the last guy that should feel like he he

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<v Speaker 2>deserved Like despite their loss and despite the home loss

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<v Speaker 2>to Kentucky, well, if you know, you can't tell me

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<v Speaker 2>we're not one of the best twelve teams. Yeah, I can,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was no way to really prove it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I guess technically this still isn't any way to fully

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<v Speaker 2>prove it now. But as things have played out, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would imagine it's still doing that right now,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe around seven o'clock or something, it's gonna be cold,

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday, when we get aboff freezing, how long is

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<v Speaker 2>above freezing? Because when this stuff starts to melt, that's great,

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<v Speaker 2>like all that stuff's just going to freeze, And I

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<v Speaker 2>aboff freezing, but it's not like it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, but this has clearly been as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's been the wildest and I wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure other places wouldn't call this wild compared to

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<v Speaker 2>is nothing. But for us, this is as big of

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<v Speaker 2>a snow week we've had around here in a long

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<v Speaker 2>long time. And as much as I did think it

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<v Speaker 2>and reminding us what a what a winter is when

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<v Speaker 2>you hit snow totals like we've had this week. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the spring yet, but I'm just ready for it to

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<v Speaker 2>not be that cold outside. And I'm ready for my

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<v Speaker 2>I can I can get some hit some sanity back.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's do this. Let's take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>What do I want to get to on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side A wild Kelly Dicky stat that, uh, I just

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know how to set it up. But

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<v Speaker 2>if Lamar Jackson wins, wins the MVP Award, Louisville Athletics

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<v Speaker 2>will be able to say something that nobody else can

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<v Speaker 2>say when it comes to former athletes that have gone

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<v Speaker 2>on to have success in the professional ranks. So we

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<v Speaker 2>can certainly get into that. Also, I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk a little more about this basketball weekend. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville taken on Pittsburgh on the road, Easily the best game,

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<v Speaker 2>or I'm sorry, easily, in my opinion, easily the best

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<v Speaker 2>team they're going to play the rest of the way. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you say that says more about the SEC than

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<v Speaker 2>it does pit That's fine, I get it if you

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<v Speaker 2>see it that way. But I happen to think Pitt's

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<v Speaker 2>really good and Louisville right now seemingly has better momentum

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<v Speaker 2>what happens tomorrow and I'll be there noon, and Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to it. Taking the family should be a

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<v Speaker 2>ideal to have this opponent at their place coming off

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<v Speaker 2>your loss to Georgia. But if anything, you'll be able

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<v Speaker 2>to see pretty quickly. Are you Are you learning from

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<v Speaker 2>what teams are able to do against you that makes

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<v Speaker 2>you so vulnerable? Because Mississippi State is going to do

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<v Speaker 2>exactly that, and it's gonna be a tough game for Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt so stick with us. We haven't even really

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<v Speaker 2>got into the NFL playoffs this weekend, but we'll certainly

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<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong here, but was this Chris Brown's

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<v Speaker 2>for song like his first hit?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Look it up because I think it was either this

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<v Speaker 2>or Excuse Me Miss? Do you know that song? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think excuse Me Miss was before this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>This was godsh it makes me realize how long he's been.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you know, a star because he this was

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in one of these songs, either excuse

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<v Speaker 2>Me miss or this one you're playing? Was it came

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<v Speaker 2>out when I was in high school, which was a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, run It Run. It was probably his his

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<v Speaker 4>official first one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what that was, right?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that was gimme the Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Are they both really similar? Am I crazy Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Brown songs?

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<v Speaker 3>During this?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Because I'm because now that you say that, I

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<v Speaker 2>do realize that they're different songs. But you could. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have believed you if you told me that that

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<v Speaker 2>was that they were the same.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotcha. I'll play you out on the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll so now I'm curious. So Run. It was his

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<v Speaker 2>first single that was huge and it was number one hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it was excuse Me, miss, and then it was

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<v Speaker 2>give me That, and they all came out in why

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<v Speaker 2>does this not show me? The year? It was all

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<v Speaker 2>on his debut albums, so technically in the same two.

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<v Speaker 3>Thousand and six maybe so he high school at one point.

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<v Speaker 4>Really yeah, well it was before I got there, about

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<v Speaker 4>two or three years before I got there, But they

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<v Speaker 4>went to state championships and I think their band had

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<v Speaker 4>won an actual state champion and they had entered to

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<v Speaker 4>win like some sort of contest where Chris Brown was

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<v Speaker 4>going to high schools that year, and he came and

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<v Speaker 4>played in like the cafeteria. It was like three years

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<v Speaker 4>before I got there.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that that that he became such a

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<v Speaker 2>big star when he was so young. I thought he

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit older than that. In fact, really random,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean an absolute random ass story that is

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<v Speaker 2>that is that is hard to believe, but it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my close friends I grew up with from

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<v Speaker 2>the time we were five years old. We graduated high

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<v Speaker 2>school together. He was he was my backcourt mate on

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<v Speaker 2>high school basketball team. He he got into like dancing,

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<v Speaker 2>like choreography, and and that became like his passion when

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<v Speaker 2>we were seniors in high school, and you know, growing

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<v Speaker 2>up in Bullet County like it was, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of hard to relate to that because there wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was the only person that I had

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard of that decided, as a seventeen year old

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<v Speaker 2>kid from Bullet County that he wanted to be like

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<v Speaker 2>Wan that's what he wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Dance sounds like very Zach effrom in high school. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to follow your dream, dad, I'm a dancer.

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<v Speaker 2>But but you know, right after that, it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>became a bigger thing to where that show with Randy

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson on MTV America's Beast Dance Creer. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you guys remember that show or not, but he

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<v Speaker 2>ended up and he went back Cody when we were

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<v Speaker 2>growing up, but his name is Dakota Once. Once he

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<v Speaker 2>entered the entertainment world, he became Dakota so that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I call him now he's Dakota. But he ended up

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<v Speaker 2>moving to Atlanta and he joined with one of those

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<v Speaker 2>dance dance groups like the Jabbawalking. Yeah, so that's what

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<v Speaker 2>that show was with Randy Jackson from American Idol. They

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<v Speaker 2>gave him an American Idol type show on MTV that

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<v Speaker 2>was about instead of just performing like singing and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 2>it was dancing as a group and they were called

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<v Speaker 2>Royal Flush and they made they made it pretty deep

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<v Speaker 2>into the show and then he ended up moving to

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<v Speaker 2>l a and he became a backup dancer for Chris Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>He went on tour with Chris Brown for like four years.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking we're talking South Africa. Like he was all

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<v Speaker 2>over the world and he ended up getting hurt and

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like an athlete. He got hurt towards

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<v Speaker 2>a cl and they could they replaced him. But he

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<v Speaker 2>met his now his now wife and they've got two

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful children together. They live in in Seattle. But he

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<v Speaker 2>met her. She was also a part of the of

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<v Speaker 2>the dance group. So yeah, I mean it's it's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most random things that like because not only

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<v Speaker 2>did you know not only did did Chris Brown perform

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<v Speaker 2>on is either Jimmy Fallon or it might have been

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<v Speaker 2>SNL And sure enough, like he's Chris Brown's out there

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<v Speaker 2>performing as the act in one of the five Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>That's five guys and girl girls that are a part

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<v Speaker 2>of like his his I'm doing a terrible job of

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<v Speaker 2>of of I mean, there are dancers, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not just any dancers, like they're a part of his,

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<v Speaker 2>his tour, like his that's his team essentially, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you turn it on and sure enough you see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember no joke pulling open Facebook one time in

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty fifteen or something, and there was somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>shared an article from like I don't know, wasn't TMZ,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's one of the one of the big, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>global pop culture sites that covers that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and it showed a picture of them getting ready to

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<v Speaker 2>come out on stage. I think it was on Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>Fallon And sure enough, there he was, like he was

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<v Speaker 2>right next to Chris Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just wild to.

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<v Speaker 2>See he was in the movie. It was in two

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<v Speaker 2>different movies Footloose, which I actually never ended up seeing,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was in Footloose that they redid like in

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<v Speaker 2>the I don't know when they did it, but and

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<v Speaker 2>then he also was in uh, what's the what's the gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>what's it called? It had the It's gonna drive Me crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>Pitch Perfect? They did pitch Perfect and pitch Perfect too.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that was that what do they call it?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a musical? Right, yeah, you've seen those, right, those movies, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So the pitch Perfect movies are musicals. While everybody's singing,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of dance going on, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>in that. So super random. No, that's pretty cool, and

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<v Speaker 2>in a way I feel like I have some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a connection to Chris Brown. Not really, but at

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<v Speaker 2>least I can say it and tell a wild story that,

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<v Speaker 2>despite it being insane, it's it's actually true.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to get Chris Brown on the show Not

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<v Speaker 3>Your Body.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard not good things about him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've heard so too. He's doing like tours now

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<v Speaker 4>where he's just taking pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>With Oh yeah, I mean I've seen the memes. I've

421
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<v Speaker 2>heard some stories about how he I mean, I don't

422
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<v Speaker 2>think he's a great guy. And you know it's coming

423
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<v Speaker 2>from somebody who not not joking, live with him, within

424
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<v Speaker 2>him on a bus and then across the world for

425
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<v Speaker 2>many years, and I don't think he's a great dude,

426
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<v Speaker 2>which probably doesn't surprise a lot of people, to be

427
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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, but make certainly a lot of hot trouble.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Certainly an entertainer, no doubt about that, all right. So

429
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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey on his on his radio show, I believe

430
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<v Speaker 2>last night of the Night before, had mentioned something that

431
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<v Speaker 2>I've seen labeled as the worst kept secret around, which

432
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<v Speaker 2>I guess just speaks to how disconnected I am from

433
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<v Speaker 2>what's going on, because I had no clue about this

434
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<v Speaker 2>at all, but apparently others did and it was just

435
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<v Speaker 2>like a whisper thing. But I learned about it from

436
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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey saying on his radio show that Noah Waterman

437
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<v Speaker 2>in December actually had a surgical procedure on his hand

438
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<v Speaker 2>and he's been playing with rods in his hand. So

439
00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Noah has I mean, look, he struggled this year to

440
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<v Speaker 2>make shots. He's looked uncomfortable, and I don't want to

441
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<v Speaker 2>go down this path again because it'll I'll spend more

442
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<v Speaker 2>time on it than I want to because there's no

443
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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't know the answer, But man, he when

444
00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:41.359
<v Speaker 2>fans were mad at this team at points this year,

445
00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel like he got all the energy from that.

446
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<v Speaker 2>And it makes sense in regards to like the fact

447
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<v Speaker 2>that he's taking a lot of threes and he's not

448
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<v Speaker 2>making them and that's kind of what he's supposed to do.

449
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<v Speaker 2>And he'll be a klutz at times and kind of

450
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<v Speaker 2>fall over, and you know, he's a defensive he can

451
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<v Speaker 2>be a liability on defense depending upon the matchup. So

452
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<v Speaker 2>I've never really understood why he got it more than

453
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<v Speaker 2>anybody else. Maybe it's because he sort of, I guess,

454
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<v Speaker 2>has that vibe and I don't pick up on this

455
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<v Speaker 2>as much as as others do, but like he's the

456
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<v Speaker 2>guy that if he's playing well and he's being you know,

457
00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:14.799
<v Speaker 2>he's he's feeling himself, then you're happy he's on your team,

458
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<v Speaker 2>because he was on the other team, you'd hate him.

459
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<v Speaker 2>Like I get why people say that the case in prior,

460
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<v Speaker 2>like he very much carried himself that way to where

461
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<v Speaker 2>I totally understood why people had said that. But when

462
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<v Speaker 2>it comes to Noah Waterman, I never really quite got it.

463
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<v Speaker 2>But I felt bad for him because he was struggling

464
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<v Speaker 2>and he was still going to play a lot of

465
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<v Speaker 2>minutes because you know, you know, you don't have anybody

466
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<v Speaker 2>else like he's he's going to be a part of

467
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<v Speaker 2>this team because they don't for a good stretch, they

468
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<v Speaker 2>didn't have anybody else to play. So I don't I

469
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<v Speaker 2>guess what I'm getting at is here when it makes

470
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<v Speaker 2>a little more sense as to why he's not shot

471
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<v Speaker 2>the ball, well, I don't. I don't believe that the

472
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<v Speaker 2>surgery where he had rods put in his hand was

473
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<v Speaker 2>on the shooting hand. I could be wrong. I feel

474
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<v Speaker 2>like you'd have a tough time doing anything if that

475
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<v Speaker 2>was the case, and you wouldn't be able to not

476
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<v Speaker 2>he had' missed any games, by the way, so I

477
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<v Speaker 2>think it's his all offhand. But either way, that is

478
00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:03.079
<v Speaker 2>going to impact your ability to shoot the ball. So

479
00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:05.160
<v Speaker 2>that at least explains a little bit as to why

480
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<v Speaker 2>he's fired it up there at times. And it looked

481
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<v Speaker 2>as if like, man, why this guy. You told me

482
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<v Speaker 2>this guy was a shooter, So that you know that,

483
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<v Speaker 2>that makes a little more sense. And I just think

484
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<v Speaker 2>for Pat Kelsey to keep that within, for Noah Waterman

485
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<v Speaker 2>to want that to be kept private, I mean, I

486
00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.920
<v Speaker 2>think that kind of speaks to this team's maturity and

487
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<v Speaker 2>their ability to kind of block out any kind of noise.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Because if I was Noah's age, which you know he's

489
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<v Speaker 2>he's not an eighteen year old freshman. He's been playing

490
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<v Speaker 2>college basketball a long time. He's probably twenty three, twenty

491
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<v Speaker 2>four years old, but still that's that's young to me.

492
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<v Speaker 2>If I was that age, and I was and I

493
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<v Speaker 2>had stretches of play and games that were really, really bad,

494
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<v Speaker 2>I would at least want I would have I would

495
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<v Speaker 2>have an insecurity within myself to want people to understand

496
00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:54.720
<v Speaker 2>the reason I'm playing so bad is because I'm out

497
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<v Speaker 2>here giving you everything I can and I just had

498
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<v Speaker 2>rods put in my hand. But he you know they

499
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<v Speaker 2>you know. I didn't hear it directly. I saw a

500
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<v Speaker 2>write up about it from I believe it was the

501
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<v Speaker 2>CJ that that highlighted or that mentioned Kelsey's quote, and

502
00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:12.799
<v Speaker 2>he said, I don't I think what he's I think

503
00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:16.519
<v Speaker 2>he led with I probably shouldn't say this. I'm sure

504
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<v Speaker 2>they don't want me to say this, or maybe he

505
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want me to say this, but I'm going to

506
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<v Speaker 2>say it anyway. And that's when he shared that Waterman

507
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:25.880
<v Speaker 2>has been playing with this injury, and I mean, I

508
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<v Speaker 2>think it's one more than anything, just the fact that

509
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<v Speaker 2>he's playing hurt, knowing that he's needed more than ever

510
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<v Speaker 2>because of these injuries that has happened. I mean, and

511
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<v Speaker 2>he's and he's still giving you everything he can. I mean,

512
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<v Speaker 2>that's one of those things where it's kind of what

513
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<v Speaker 2>you would expect, but also like it probably has been

514
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<v Speaker 2>very difficult for him, and yet he's played poorly and

515
00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:46.240
<v Speaker 2>nobody realizes that he's actually gone through a pretty you know,

516
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<v Speaker 2>probably a pretty painful injury, and clearly he's not been

517
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<v Speaker 2>as comfortable out there, and yet he's you know, I

518
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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I don't know what the value is in

519
00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:57.400
<v Speaker 2>keeping that within, but more than anything, it speaks to

520
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<v Speaker 2>this group they're not they've and I said this against

521
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<v Speaker 2>I think it might have been in the Duke game

522
00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:06.519
<v Speaker 2>when they came back from the Bahamas. They got their

523
00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:08.920
<v Speaker 2>buck kicked by Ole Miss, and then they had Duke,

524
00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:12.440
<v Speaker 2>and they played really tough early on, they led for

525
00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:14.519
<v Speaker 2>about thirty minutes, and then it kind of got away late.

526
00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:16.559
<v Speaker 2>They lost by double digits. Duke clearly was just a

527
00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:19.079
<v Speaker 2>better team. I remember thinking to myself. Look, these guys

528
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<v Speaker 2>have had a lot of legitimate excuses of legitimate factors

529
00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that it's just bad luck, right, injuries, that kind of stuff,

530
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<v Speaker 2>and they don't carry themselves in any way as if

531
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<v Speaker 2>they feel sorry for themselves. They're not victims. And I

532
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<v Speaker 2>think knowing Waterman's injury situation now and it never being

533
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:39.799
<v Speaker 2>at least I mean, it wasn't public knowledge, and he

534
00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:41.480
<v Speaker 2>certainly didn't go out of his way to tell anybody.

535
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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey didn't want to tell anybody. I mean, I

536
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<v Speaker 2>think that speaks to these guys. They're not going to

537
00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:47.519
<v Speaker 2>make any excuses. They got a job to do and

538
00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:49.599
<v Speaker 2>they're going to give everything they have to get the

539
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<v Speaker 2>job done. So I'm not happy to hear that Noah's

540
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:54.480
<v Speaker 2>been dealing with that and that he's had rods put

541
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<v Speaker 2>in his hand, But again, it kind of makes me

542
00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.920
<v Speaker 2>love this team even more. Something else that Pat Kelsey said,

543
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.079
<v Speaker 2>this was not in on his Coaches show. This was

544
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<v Speaker 2>in I guess an interview that he did. Make sure

545
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<v Speaker 2>I cite my sources here because I'm going to play

546
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<v Speaker 2>this sound for you. This is Pat Kelsey during an

547
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<v Speaker 2>interview with Louisville native David Novak, who is a business

548
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<v Speaker 2>leader here locally. He recently had Pat Kelsey on to I.

549
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<v Speaker 2>Don't I guess this? I guess uh, mister Novak has show,

550
00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:28.279
<v Speaker 2>a podcast, whatever it may be. But this was something

551
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<v Speaker 2>that I was not expecting to hear, but certainly something

552
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<v Speaker 2>to me.

553
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<v Speaker 5>You know, I've reached out to Coach Crumb's widow, who's

554
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.240
<v Speaker 5>been phenomenal to me. You know. It was really really

555
00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:43.200
<v Speaker 5>cool and I don't know if he's going to be

556
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<v Speaker 5>mad that I'm saying this on a on a broadcast

557
00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:48.119
<v Speaker 5>like this, but I had a long text exchange the

558
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<v Speaker 5>other day with the great Rick Patino, which was really

559
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:54.559
<v Speaker 5>really cool. Peyton Siva asked me, he goes Coach Patino

560
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:56.599
<v Speaker 5>asked for your number? Do you mind if I.

561
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<v Speaker 2>Give it to him? And I said, heck no.

562
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<v Speaker 5>And about ten minutes later I got a text from

563
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<v Speaker 5>him and it was a follow up from the Kentucky

564
00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:07.000
<v Speaker 5>game which he watched. And my response first of all,

565
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:09.160
<v Speaker 5>was like, are you sure is this somebody like pulling

566
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<v Speaker 5>my leg?

567
00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Or is this really Rick Patino?

568
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 5>And it was really him and gave me some you know,

569
00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.160
<v Speaker 5>just some good feedback and said some really nice things,

570
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<v Speaker 5>and it just made my heart beat fast and made

571
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<v Speaker 5>the hair staring up my arms, that that a guy

572
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.599
<v Speaker 5>like that, that's such a legend around here, cares about

573
00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:29.319
<v Speaker 5>what we're doing and acknowledged, you know, our game the

574
00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:31.680
<v Speaker 5>other day against against Kentucky.

575
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<v Speaker 2>So so, Austin, I wanted to get your thoughts on

576
00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:40.680
<v Speaker 2>that because you developed, I think the emotional investment you made,

577
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:43.559
<v Speaker 2>the emotional investment, you developed the connection to Louisville basketball

578
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:45.359
<v Speaker 2>to where it means a lot to you when Rick

579
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:50.000
<v Speaker 2>was here. Correct, yep, clearly he's not here anymore, and

580
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 2>he's done some things lately with Kentucky that would make

581
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.039
<v Speaker 2>fans feel a certain way. Despite it making sense, it's

582
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.200
<v Speaker 2>still not something you want to see. What does that

583
00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.559
<v Speaker 2>do to you at all? If anything, when you hear

584
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:02.200
<v Speaker 2>that Tina wanted to reach out to Pat Kelsey and

585
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.880
<v Speaker 2>talk a little ball and you know, I guess just

586
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 2>want to establish some kind of rapport they'd never talked before.

587
00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I've got my thoughts on it, but I feel like

588
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.720
<v Speaker 2>for you, I mean, maybe I'm wrong here, but I

589
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:14.319
<v Speaker 2>feel like that's got to be a good a good

590
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>vibe for you because it's like the parents divorced and

591
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 2>it's like you know, knowing that your your stepdad and

592
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 2>your and your real dad or like, you know, they're

593
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:24.279
<v Speaker 2>cordial and you can like both of them.

594
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:25.359
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, exactly.

595
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 4>It's it's not like the Will Smith meme anymore, like

596
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:30.039
<v Speaker 4>why don't he don't want me anymore? You know, it's

597
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.480
<v Speaker 4>it's it feels good and it feels like it's a

598
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 4>step in like the right direction. I was never one

599
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.000
<v Speaker 4>of those fans that got mad when he went back

600
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:37.559
<v Speaker 4>to Kentucky.

601
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:38.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean a little bit.

602
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:40.359
<v Speaker 2>It always he didn't want to see it, but you

603
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 2>understood it.

604
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:42.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you understood it because it always hurt.

605
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:44.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he wasn't shy about saying how much he

606
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 4>loved Kentucky even when he was here.

607
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<v Speaker 2>And what most people didn't pick up on, and I

608
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't either at the time, because you know, you're just

609
00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 2>so deep into the rivalry. When Rick would be a

610
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:58.519
<v Speaker 2>little spicy towards Lexington and Kentucky, it was not about

611
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:01.640
<v Speaker 2>that program, that and base. It was about that man,

612
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:05.839
<v Speaker 2>John Caliparira. It was cal so he probably had an

613
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 2>offit had, you know, had feelings for them more so

614
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>than we even realized when he was here. But he

615
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.880
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't go there. But in fact, I think that

616
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:16.599
<v Speaker 2>drove him crazy more than anything that of all people,

617
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Cal was running Kentucky and and thriving. So yeah, I

618
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 2>mean I remember you and I talking about it at

619
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the time, that the whole Kentucky thing, like I didn't

620
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>want to see it. I would quickly just scroll past.

621
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean this may sound silly, but I would just

622
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:30.759
<v Speaker 2>quickly scroll past stuff on social media because I didn't

623
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:32.000
<v Speaker 2>want to like even you know, I don't want to

624
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.799
<v Speaker 2>go there. Yeah, exactly, That's kind of the way I

625
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>And then when you know, Rick wanted to make it

626
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>all about him, which he typically does. And look, I'll

627
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, I think it's cool that that

628
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Patino wanted to reach out to Pat Kelsey. I don't

629
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have wouldn't have minded if he never did it,

630
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.240
<v Speaker 2>doesn't you know. But overall, as a Louisville fan who

631
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:53.160
<v Speaker 2>realizes the best era that of my life time for

632
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 2>the louis of basketball was clearly when Rick Patino was here,

633
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and now he's moved on, and there's just no scenario

634
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 2>where that tenure, that stretch of time within this program,

635
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 2>it is going to stand out as I mean not

636
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.599
<v Speaker 2>only was it important to get Louisville back to the

637
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>top during Rick's time here and win a national championship,

638
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:13.559
<v Speaker 2>go to a few final fours like that kind of

639
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>stuff matters. That's why louisll can still to this day,

640
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.839
<v Speaker 2>despite the recent years of struggles, claim they're one of

641
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:21.000
<v Speaker 2>the best programs in the sport. So there's never a

642
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>scenario where that era won't be remembered fondly. Even though

643
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Rick didn't get out of here in a good way,

644
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and even though he's clearly been bitter, and there was

645
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of scandals that happened, a lot of stains

646
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 2>that took a while, and it's still taken some time,

647
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I suppose, as far as national perception to get rid

648
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.480
<v Speaker 2>of that. But our best memories were during that time,

649
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>and we all know that. Unfortunately, the nature of what

650
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>went on and what was connected to those scandals, the salaciousness,

651
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:50.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, made it seem you know, it's just how

652
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:53.079
<v Speaker 2>life works. Man. People who think about Rick petinat Louisville

653
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.839
<v Speaker 2>that didn't experience it like we did by any means,

654
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 2>and maybe didn't even really follow college basketball all that closely,

655
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:01.920
<v Speaker 2>they'll think Rick Patino at Louisville and they'll think hookers

656
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:03.720
<v Speaker 2>in the dorm. I hate to be so blood, but

657
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.519
<v Speaker 2>that's just that's just that's how things work. And again

658
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking to maybe people out of sight, out of

659
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.519
<v Speaker 2>mind that don't follow college basketball that closely, So all

660
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:12.839
<v Speaker 2>that stuff sucks. But either way, we all know that

661
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:16.319
<v Speaker 2>our some of our best memories are in that era.

662
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.200
<v Speaker 2>And now I some of Rick's best memories were absolutely

663
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Rick Pottino in my opinion, And again this goes back

664
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<v Speaker 2>to what I just said about what happened. When you

665
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.799
<v Speaker 2>think of Rick Patino, you think of Louisville before you

666
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 2>think of Kentucky. And I like to believe it mostly

667
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>because of one how long he was at Louisill. He

668
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.240
<v Speaker 2>was here longer than he was in Kentucky, and he

669
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:39.079
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of success. But I'm also not foolish

670
00:30:39.160 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 2>enough to say that because of the national attention that

671
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>was that that that this program got because of what

672
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.079
<v Speaker 2>went on, that's also a factor in it too. So look, Rick,

673
00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I think Rick does love Louisville. I think he's a

674
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>little bit unrelatable to where like he doesn't like he's

675
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:58.440
<v Speaker 2>not I mean, he he appreciates his time here and

676
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>knows that he had it. It had something really good,

677
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's why I bothered him so much

678
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 2>that it ended the way that it did. But you know,

679
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know Rick. Rick will eventually be welcomed back here,

680
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>and he's welcome back now, like even after the Kentucky stuff.

681
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Like in fact, I'm glad that people kept some receipts

682
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.079
<v Speaker 2>and made it quite clear that look, you do what

683
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 2>you want to do with Kentucky. We don't have to

684
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 2>like it, but we get it. But to claim that

685
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.279
<v Speaker 2>you're not invited back and you're not welcome like that

686
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>ended up being like Rick got put on Front Street.

687
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 3>That was a lie.

688
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:29.839
<v Speaker 2>That was a lie. Josh Hurd has confirmed through others

689
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 2>that that was just not true. And Luke Cancock, of

690
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>all people, was very very upset to hear Rick claim

691
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>that he's not been welcomed back whenever Luke and a

692
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>lot of his guys have done everything they could to

693
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>make it to make it to where he can come back,

694
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and again he can. He just he'll have to be

695
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>the one that decides to do that. But maybe now

696
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.200
<v Speaker 2>that there is a level of somewhat of a relationship

697
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:53.720
<v Speaker 2>between Kelsey and Patino. Maybe that'll happen sooner rather than later,

698
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 2>which I think would be great. Like I feel like

699
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.880
<v Speaker 2>that'll be another st and again it won't have anything

700
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.279
<v Speaker 2>to do with like this programs succeeding moving forward, but

701
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Rick coming back and getting a you know, being able

702
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 2>to be honored in some way, like if they do

703
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 2>a fifteen year anniversary of the twenty thirteen TIT title team,

704
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's the window where he could come back. And

705
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.240
<v Speaker 2>to me, this sounds corny, I know, but that to

706
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>me is somewhat of a part of the closure here

707
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 2>of like completely removing ourselves from how bad that era

708
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.799
<v Speaker 2>ended and how bad it's been since then.

709
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's almost like getting the hay you up text?

710
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt, I mean. And the fact that Rick,

711
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean Rick did it the right way, reaching out

712
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 2>to Peyton, who of course he's still close with, and

713
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 2>obviously I just I just can imagine being a fly

714
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 2>on the wall as Peyton walks into Pat Kelsey's office

715
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 2>and is like, hey, coach Patino wanted me to give

716
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>you his number. You cool if you're my boss, Like

717
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't want if Pat Kelsey was like, of course,

718
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.720
<v Speaker 2>hell yeah, and I am sure that some of that

719
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:53.440
<v Speaker 2>is an exaggeration. Maybe a lot of it is an

720
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>exaggeration in regards to Kelsey's like, are you kidding me

721
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:59.119
<v Speaker 2>to be able to talk basketball with the legend and

722
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the hair on my arm stood up? Like maybe some

723
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:04.119
<v Speaker 2>of that's hokey, Maybe some of that's an exaggeration, but

724
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.279
<v Speaker 2>either way, like it speaks to his humility, and I

725
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.400
<v Speaker 2>think that's a huge part of why this can really

726
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:11.359
<v Speaker 2>work out here because he's he's he's feeling I mean,

727
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.200
<v Speaker 2>he's feeling pretty good about where things are right now,

728
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.039
<v Speaker 2>and he has every right to. And I hope that

729
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 2>they can keep that momentum rolling tomor against Pittsburgh quick break.

730
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:20.119
<v Speaker 2>We'll come back on the other side, keep this thing

731
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 2>rolling along. It's coffee and company. Feel about Thornton's on

732
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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety.

733
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

735
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<v Speaker 2>So, if Lamar Jackson does end up being the NFL MVP,

736
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<v Speaker 2>which if you listed earlier, him getting thirty votes for

737
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:47.960
<v Speaker 2>ap all NFL First Team quarterback, whereas it looks like

738
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>the let's see eighteen votes for Josh Allen two for Burrow,

739
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:54.480
<v Speaker 2>but thirty for Lamar. That has made Lamar now the

740
00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 2>favorite to win his third MVP. But according to Kelly Dickey,

741
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:03.279
<v Speaker 2>if Jackson when's the ap NFL MVP Award, excuse me,

742
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Louisville would be the first college to have former players

743
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:12.760
<v Speaker 2>combining for six MVP awards and the NFL MVP Awards

744
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:17.960
<v Speaker 2>by college says Herewi Yeah, if he does, Louisville will

745
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 2>be in the Yeah, so calif this is such misleading,

746
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:29.000
<v Speaker 2>but cal has four former NFL has four MVPs as

747
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.800
<v Speaker 2>a college and it's all from one guy, clearly in Louisville's.

748
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Louisville's is not though, because of Johnny United. So Lamar

749
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>gets three his third, you haven't united with his. You

750
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>would end up with Louisville, Notre Dame in Tennessee, being

751
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>able to claim that they are the leaders as far

752
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 2>as producing the most NFL MVPs. So random, do that

753
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 2>with that what you want. But hey, if you're looking

754
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:56.320
<v Speaker 2>for something to add to the list of things you

755
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.199
<v Speaker 2>can throw out there about what Lamar Jackson has done

756
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:03.000
<v Speaker 2>for Louisville football, you know, he's he's he's done a lot.

757
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.039
<v Speaker 2>But him continuing to be the best player in the NFL.

758
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's there's it's hard to know what it's

759
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 2>doing for you this day and age, but it certainly

760
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.440
<v Speaker 2>helps you more than it could ever hurt you. All Right,

761
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.159
<v Speaker 2>This is not something you typically see. This is awful,

762
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.880
<v Speaker 2>but certainly a big piece of news in college football today.

763
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.559
<v Speaker 2>And I suppose also when it comes to the NFL draft,

764
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know where this guy's actual draft stock was,

765
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:34.119
<v Speaker 2>but a former LSU quarterback, Kyrien Lacy, he has he's

766
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 2>cooperating with authorities and is going to turn himself in

767
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 2>because he's wanted on charges of neglect, I'm not sorry,

768
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:46.599
<v Speaker 2>negligent homicide, felony, hit and run. So apparently on December seventeenth,

769
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>this young man he was in an accident or I

770
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:51.599
<v Speaker 2>guess he called.

771
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 3>I read it.

772
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I read the report earlier, and it was it was

773
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:58.239
<v Speaker 2>somewhat confusing, but from when I gathered he actually he

774
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't he didn't get in a wreck, but his crazy

775
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.400
<v Speaker 2>driving resulted in a very bad car accident, and it

776
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>ended up killing a former marine and injured two other people.

777
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 2>That's according to the Louisiana State Police w WAFB and

778
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Baton Rouge is the one who broke this story. But

779
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>they say that the investigators alleged that Lacy, who declared

780
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.159
<v Speaker 2>for the draft just two days after this crash, sped

781
00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 2>from the scene of the ten am accident after initially

782
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 2>causing it it did not report his involvement to the police.

783
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.679
<v Speaker 2>They later were able to determine that the vehicle that

784
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 2>was driving recklessly that caused this faal accident was in

785
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>fact Kyraen Lacey. He's twenty four, played at LSU for

786
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 2>a long time, and it says here that he's also

787
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.960
<v Speaker 2>wanted on charges of reckless driving, which of course that

788
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:50.960
<v Speaker 2>reckless driving is what led to the accident and the

789
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 2>negligent homicide. But he according to wa WAFB, his attorney

790
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 2>is in communication with Louisiana State Police and he's expected

791
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 2>to turn himself in. Apparently, he was driving a twenty

792
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:10.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty three Dodge Charger on an interstate and recklessly passed

793
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>multiple vehicles at a high rate of speed by crossing

794
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 2>the center line and entering the northbound lane while in

795
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 2>a designated no passing zone. That's clearly very dangerous, but

796
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:21.760
<v Speaker 2>at that point a northbound driver and a pickup truck

797
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 2>abruptly hit the brakes and swerve to avoid a head

798
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:27.480
<v Speaker 2>on collision with Lacy's dodge charger, forcing a Kia Cadenza

799
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>that was behind the pickup to swerve left, crossing the

800
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 2>center lane and hitting a southbound Kia Sorrento head on,

801
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.480
<v Speaker 2>and of course that led to the death of a

802
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 2>seventy seventy eight year old man who was a former marine.

803
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:44.559
<v Speaker 2>So again not, I mean, that's just the tragic story

804
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:48.920
<v Speaker 2>all the way around, and LSU, you know, that's the

805
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff you don't want your program being attached to.

806
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.679
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just again, when these kind of things happen,

807
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:58.360
<v Speaker 2>and I'm a nerd for I guess true crime, and

808
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like this story fits in true crime

809
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 2>right now. But when people end up making a big mistake,

810
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.559
<v Speaker 2>doing something really stupid or you know, doing something heinous

811
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:10.760
<v Speaker 2>that was you know, quite literally an awful act that

812
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:13.239
<v Speaker 2>they need to be helped count Like, I just I

813
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.679
<v Speaker 2>always try to think back to like in their mind,

814
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>did they think they got away with it? Like if

815
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 2>he's been actively communicating via his attorney to police, then

816
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's just been under wraps as far as it

817
00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:30.039
<v Speaker 2>being a news story, but two days later he declares

818
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.079
<v Speaker 2>for the NFL Draft. Be hard for me to imagine

819
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.039
<v Speaker 2>that he wasn't aware that there was a crazy accident

820
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.960
<v Speaker 2>that he caused. And it's also one of those things

821
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:42.480
<v Speaker 2>that you know, you got to have pretty good app

822
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:45.880
<v Speaker 2>like for him to fully be charged with this, to

823
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:48.760
<v Speaker 2>where there's not some kind of a plea deal for

824
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>a lower charge. I just don't know how you can

825
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.280
<v Speaker 2>fully prove that, like quite literally, he caused it. I

826
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:58.519
<v Speaker 2>mean it clearly. I mean, if the driving was what

827
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 2>they claim it was in the investigation, and then yeah,

828
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean it makes total sense that he should be

829
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 2>had accountable because he's out there driving like a lunatic,

830
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.440
<v Speaker 2>causing others to react a certain way, and that's dangerous

831
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.239
<v Speaker 2>and that's that's why a crashed happened that took somebody's life.

832
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:13.400
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, I just having that way on

833
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:17.119
<v Speaker 2>your conscious knowing you did, I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe people can truly block it out and just assume

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<v Speaker 2>they're invincible. They got away with it and they'll never

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<v Speaker 2>get caught. Like maybe that's how some people operate. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm too paranoid and again not to go down a

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<v Speaker 2>path that wouldn't be good for this show. But I

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<v Speaker 2>does anybody else ever sit around and think like there

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<v Speaker 2>are people who walk among among us that are evil

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<v Speaker 2>human beings and we have no clue.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's I don't I don't often think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to think about it. That's no way

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<v Speaker 2>to live. You know, you got to be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to have some awareness, You've got to have

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<v Speaker 2>head on a swivel in certain situations. But like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're just always fearful of like, oh, this person walking

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<v Speaker 2>down the street, they may kill me. Like that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>no way to live, and it would be awful. But

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<v Speaker 2>every now and then, I'll, i'll, you know, you'll you'll

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<v Speaker 2>hear of a story about somebody that you know you

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<v Speaker 2>would have never expected doing something heinous or I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a reason that people are fascinated so much so

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<v Speaker 2>by like serial killers. I mean, they're awful people, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, a lot of them end up I

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<v Speaker 2>guess not a lot of them, but at least some

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<v Speaker 2>of them, some of the more notable and memorable ones

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<v Speaker 2>over the years. One of the things that makes their

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<v Speaker 2>story so fascinating is that they were living in playing

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<v Speaker 2>They were living in plain sight amongst normal human beings,

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<v Speaker 2>and nobody had a clue that they were, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>killing people. I mean, it's crazy and this is not that,

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<v Speaker 2>but still, just to know that he declared for the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL draft and went on about his business as if

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<v Speaker 2>nothing happened. Maybe there's a chance he didn't know that

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<v Speaker 2>he caused the wreck that killed somebody. Maybe he thought

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<v Speaker 2>that even if he did, he wouldn't be held accountable

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, he didn't wreck. But yeah, just a

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<v Speaker 2>wild story, no doubt. All Right, we got the five

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour. We'll get wild here as we get out

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<v Speaker 2>here for the weekend. It's coffee and company. Feel about

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<v Speaker 2>Thorton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety m