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<v Speaker 1>Everybody, Welcome to the Dixie Cryptid Podcast. My name's Cameron Buckner,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't ask for money, and we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a membership program. All of this content is free, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>cost you a dime, So if you don't like it,

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<v Speaker 1>send me an email and I'll give you your money back.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually go through these stories and just randomly pick two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five stories to put in a podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>I did that on this one. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how it happened, but I picked three of the best

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<v Speaker 1>stories I have read in probably a year for this

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<v Speaker 1>particular podcast. So I hope you guys enjoy this. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a good one. This is a really good one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here we go. When I was growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and dad had a rule. When the son

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<v Speaker 1>started to set, my siblings and I had to come inside.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a small farm with chickens and goats and

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<v Speaker 1>rabbits and pigs, so all of our chores had to

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<v Speaker 1>be done before sunset. One day, I asked my mom

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<v Speaker 1>why I couldn't play out in the yard, and her

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<v Speaker 1>answer sounded like a mother trying to scare her child

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<v Speaker 1>into listening. She said it was because there were monsters

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods that wanted to take me. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>sure I believed her, but some of our animals started

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<v Speaker 1>to disappear at night, so I didn't push it very far.

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<v Speaker 1>My father was the president of the West Virginia Trappers Association.

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<v Speaker 1>He had let me hunt and run traps with him

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<v Speaker 1>since I was eight years old. I was sure I

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<v Speaker 1>knew every animal in our woods, but I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>One day, Dad got a call from our neighbor Den,

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<v Speaker 1>who raised a cattle. He said that one of the

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<v Speaker 1>cows was dead and her calf was missing. Dad took

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<v Speaker 1>me along to Den's house with him, who showed us

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<v Speaker 1>the dead cow. There were deep scratches on her front

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<v Speaker 1>quarter and her neck had been broken. Dad didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to make of this. There was no sign of

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<v Speaker 1>anything dragging the calf off, besides the trail leading into

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<v Speaker 1>the woods that connected to our property. I started to

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<v Speaker 1>track it, but Dad and Den both yelled at me

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<v Speaker 1>to stay put. Instead, I helped set some bear traps

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<v Speaker 1>around the dead cow, and Dad told Den, if it

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<v Speaker 1>comes back, these should hold it. Later that night, after dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>I overheard my dad tell my mom that whatever killed

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<v Speaker 1>Den's cow was probably what had been taking our animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom asked what we could do, and Dad told her

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<v Speaker 1>about the traps that he was confident they would catch

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<v Speaker 1>some thing and then we might finally see what was

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<v Speaker 1>killing the animals. The next morning, Din called frantically, telling

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<v Speaker 1>my dad that we needed to come back to where

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<v Speaker 1>we set the traps. We went straight out to the cow,

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<v Speaker 1>and this time my older brother joined us. We were armed,

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<v Speaker 1>expecting to find a large bear. When we got there,

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<v Speaker 1>Din was at a loss for words. The dead cow

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<v Speaker 1>was gone and there were clear large tracks leading back

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<v Speaker 1>into the woods. Dad was furious. Our traps were gone too,

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<v Speaker 1>and seven bear traps are not cheap. He told Den

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<v Speaker 1>that he'd never seen anything like this. The animal had

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<v Speaker 1>to be intelligent to spot and pull up the traps

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<v Speaker 1>from their steaks. About that time, life got stranger. None

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<v Speaker 1>of us kids were allowed outside unless someone was with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we both had to be armed. I was eleven

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, and I felt safe by myself, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with my twenty gage shotgun with me, but we still

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<v Speaker 1>had to do our chores in pairs. Well, nothing happened

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<v Speaker 1>for about a month until one day I was out

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<v Speaker 1>on the porch drinking a soda After feeding and watering

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<v Speaker 1>the chickens and the rabbits, I was watching the upper field,

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to see a deer or turkey. I remember the

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<v Speaker 1>sun was already getting low and dusk was starting to

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<v Speaker 1>set in. I saw what I told Mom and Dad

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<v Speaker 1>was a large man sneaking across our field. It scared me.

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<v Speaker 1>He was wearing what I thought was a gilly suit.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad immediately grabbed his rifle and yelled for my older

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<v Speaker 1>brother Joe to grab his. They ran into the field

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<v Speaker 1>and looked for it, but it was long gone. Later

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<v Speaker 1>that night, we heard one of our rabbits screaming. We

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<v Speaker 1>could hear something banging against one of the cages and

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<v Speaker 1>making deep grunting noises. Joe and my father grabbed their

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<v Speaker 1>rifles and flashlights and ran out the door. I grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>my forty four mag brush rifle and I followed them.

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<v Speaker 1>The rabbits were going nuts and one of them was

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<v Speaker 1>still screaming, and before I made it to them, I

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<v Speaker 1>heard my brother scream and he started shooting. I froze

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<v Speaker 1>in my tracks just twenty feet from the house, and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw them running back towards me, and Dad grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>me with his free hand and he dragged me back inside.

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<v Speaker 1>He told Mom to bolt the doors and shut all

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<v Speaker 1>pissed off whatever the thing was. No one slept that night.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, the creature threw rocks at the house, breaking

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<v Speaker 1>one of the windows, and there was an ungodly roar

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<v Speaker 1>that gave us chills. Eventually the rackets stopped. We thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was over until we heard a loud thud against

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the house, and at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>there was a thud at the front. I remember Dad

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<v Speaker 1>turning white and he looked at my mother and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>my god, Judy, there's more than one. Mom started crying

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<v Speaker 1>and the kids asked what it was. Dad said he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, but that it looked like some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a giant eight. The thudding against the doors went on

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<v Speaker 1>for hours, right up until an hour before sunrise. The

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<v Speaker 1>next day. We went to check out the damage, and

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<v Speaker 1>what we found was awful. There were large footprints all

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<v Speaker 1>over the house that looked like fists. That was nothing

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<v Speaker 1>compared to what we found when we checked our livestock.

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<v Speaker 1>Over thirty rabbits were dead. They were ripped in half

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<v Speaker 1>and half pulled through the wire on their cages. Two

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<v Speaker 1>goats were gone. There was no sign of them at all.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just gone. One of our hogs had been killed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's his neck was broken. Dad was furious. He called

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<v Speaker 1>our neighbors and told them what had happened. He called

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<v Speaker 1>two of my older brothers who had moved out, and

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<v Speaker 1>he told them too. Everyone came over to check on

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<v Speaker 1>us and check out the massacre, each of them as

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<v Speaker 1>livid as my father. Later that evening, everyone showed up

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<v Speaker 1>again and they packed everything from twelve gate shot guns

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<v Speaker 1>with deer slugs to high powered rifles, not to mention

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<v Speaker 1>the pistols that were on their belts. Mom fed everyone

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<v Speaker 1>a nice chicken dinner, and then we waited. Round ten thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard grunting coming from the woods behind the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing there would be more than one of them, three

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<v Speaker 1>of our large group went around the house to check

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<v Speaker 1>it out, while the rest of us waited inside at

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<v Speaker 1>the ready. Ten minutes later, we heard a scream. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like a woman shrieking mixed with the bear's roar,

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<v Speaker 1>and from the safety of the inside of a house,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard our neighbors open up gunfire, letting off round

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<v Speaker 1>after round until the scream turned again to a cry

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<v Speaker 1>of pain. Then we heard a second roar so intense

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<v Speaker 1>it vibrated our chests. It came from the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the house. We ran to the windows in time

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<v Speaker 1>to see this thing tear through some of the bushes.

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<v Speaker 1>It had to be at least eight feet tall. And

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<v Speaker 1>then a third, smaller one, maybe six feet tall, came

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<v Speaker 1>running toward us. It took three rounds from us, and

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<v Speaker 1>it turned toward the first one, who was screaming. The

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<v Speaker 1>big one let out one more loud and long roar

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<v Speaker 1>as it lifted its mate and barreled into the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Later that morning, we found blood in several places and

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<v Speaker 1>even tracked it for almost a mile to the stream

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<v Speaker 1>that was running around an old strip road, and we

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<v Speaker 1>lost it there And we never found the bodies, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know one had to be dead. Dad contacted the

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<v Speaker 1>DNR and reported what had happened. Two officers came and

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<v Speaker 1>looked around. They didn't even cross the woodline. They tried

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<v Speaker 1>to tell us that it was a bear and that

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<v Speaker 1>they could find us if we had tried to kill

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<v Speaker 1>it out of season. We all know what we saw

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<v Speaker 1>and shot, but no one believed us. Thankfully, nothing ever

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<v Speaker 1>came back since that night, and for years after that

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<v Speaker 1>we lived peacefully. I grew up and I moved out,

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<v Speaker 1>and the events of that time became a memory. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven now, and just recently something has started taking

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's animals again without leaving a trace. Seems the

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<v Speaker 1>peace on the farm has come to an end. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>afraid they're back. I grew up in central West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>and my dad and I are big into coon hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost every night during coon season we would go together

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<v Speaker 1>and run the dogs. In the summertime, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>on break, I would take the dogs every night to

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<v Speaker 1>get them ready for the season. Most of the time

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<v Speaker 1>I would take off walking, but every once in a

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<v Speaker 1>while my dad would come with me, even if he

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<v Speaker 1>had to work the next morning. We would take his truck.

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<v Speaker 1>That particular night was hot and muggy, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>clear and there was a full moon. Dad and I

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<v Speaker 1>loaded up the dogs and set out to try to

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<v Speaker 1>get them to strike. That night, we treed three or

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<v Speaker 1>four coons by one am. Seeing that we did pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>and because Dad had to get up in a few

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<v Speaker 1>There were multiple things that Dad wanted done before I

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<v Speaker 1>out the kennels, and feed and water the dogs, and

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<v Speaker 1>collect the eggs from the chicken coop. Our house sat

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<v Speaker 1>right smack dab in the middle of a holler, and

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<v Speaker 1>on either side of the house was straight up hills

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<v Speaker 1>and I got a weird feeling that something was staring

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<v Speaker 1>right through my soul. I looked to my right up

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<v Speaker 1>the hill, and there, thirty feet higher in the trees

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<v Speaker 1>or a set of red eyes looking right at me.

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<v Speaker 1>They were so big. My first thought was that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a small airplane. I sat and stared right back

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<v Speaker 1>at it for a few seconds, completely mesmerized, before I

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<v Speaker 1>realized there was no way it was a plane. It

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<v Speaker 1>was too close, they were too big, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>far too silent. I think it was two thirty in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning by then. I hauled my butt inside, where

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<v Speaker 1>Dad was fast asleep on the couch, and I debated

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<v Speaker 1>on waking him up. That was a cardinal sin in

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<v Speaker 1>contemplating what in the world I had just seen outside.

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<v Speaker 1>A few minutes passed and I heard a huge bang

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<v Speaker 1>of the house. Once it landed, it started walking toward

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<v Speaker 1>my parents' bedroom. It was so loud and heavy that

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<v Speaker 1>I could hear every footstep, and once it reached the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the house, it turned and it walked all

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<v Speaker 1>other side. About that time, I decided, screw this, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>beat my butt or not. So I woke him up.

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<v Speaker 1>I was freaking out, and he just groaned at me

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Since then, no one has ever believed me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you all will. It feels good to get it

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<v Speaker 1>off my chest. I am a graduate of the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Kentucky's Veterinary Medicine program. I achieved my doctorate in

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<v Speaker 1>veterinary medicine, specializing in bovine, equine, swine, and small ruminants.

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<v Speaker 1>After working with some older veterinarians, I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>open my own practice at nineteen ninety five. Later, I

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand, the state reintroduced two hundred head of

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<v Speaker 1>them with radio callers. Later in twenty fifteen, we began

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<v Speaker 1>using implanted transmitters to help with the retention rates of

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<v Speaker 1>the calves born each year. In the early years, we

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<v Speaker 1>along Wolf Creek. Needless to say, Tennessee had something to

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<v Speaker 1>say about this and had to recover the runaway and

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<v Speaker 1>of September nineteen, twenty seventeen, I got the call to

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<v Speaker 1>the service roads in a wildlife area. The collar of

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<v Speaker 1>one of our bull elk was transmitting some erratic data.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the last to arrive with my field pack

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<v Speaker 1>and tranquilizer gun. I had three darts loaded with enough

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<v Speaker 1>xylazine in fentanyl to immobilize a twelve hundred pound bull

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<v Speaker 1>in a matter of seconds. This bull was over ten

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<v Speaker 1>The park ranger's name was Brian, and he had the

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<v Speaker 1>radio telemetry equipment that detected the location of the callers

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<v Speaker 1>signal and the game warden. Rick was equipped with an

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<v Speaker 1>M four rifle just in case the signal came in strong.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as Brian fired up his equipment showing us

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<v Speaker 1>Brian said the signal was moving away quickly, as if

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<v Speaker 1>it had hopped into a truck and was driving off.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick burst into action and ran forward with reckless abandon

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<v Speaker 1>When Brian and I finally caught up with him, he

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<v Speaker 1>was standing in a small clearing that was drenched in blood.

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<v Speaker 1>The smaller trees had been smashed to the ground, and

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<v Speaker 1>there in the midst of all this carnage lay a

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<v Speaker 1>single leg bone and a hoof of our missing bull.

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<v Speaker 1>It appeared that all the flesh was chewed off his

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<v Speaker 1>leg and cast aside. We all knew that this animal

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<v Speaker 1>did not run off on its own, missing a leg

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<v Speaker 1>to stand on, Rick again took the lead and began

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<v Speaker 1>to track the animal, following the droplets of blood and

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<v Speaker 1>broken twigs and tree limbs, and the moved leaf litter

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<v Speaker 1>on the forest floor. Occasionally Brian picked up the signal again,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would quickly disappear a moment later. Over the

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<v Speaker 1>next four hours of playing cat and mouse, the signal

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<v Speaker 1>came in strong and it was moving right at us.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick positioned himself to the side and took cover behind

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<v Speaker 1>some down trees. Brian and I followed his lead. Ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes later, an older Native of American dressed in buckskins

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<v Speaker 1>and moccasins walked out of the dark woods on his

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<v Speaker 1>outstretched arms. He presented the collar and he said, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe this is what you're searching for. He laid it

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground and started to walk away. When Rick

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<v Speaker 1>told him to stop and turn around. The older man

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<v Speaker 1>did what he was told, and Rick identified himself. He

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<v Speaker 1>asked him what in the hell made him think he

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<v Speaker 1>could just walk up and drop the collar and walk

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<v Speaker 1>off like that. The older man looked at him, calmly

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<v Speaker 1>in the eyes, and he said, I answer to a

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<v Speaker 1>higher power than you. I am the uniony, the spiritual leader,

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<v Speaker 1>and the medicine man for our people, and the one

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<v Speaker 1>who oversees the sou Kaloo. He seemed to appreciate our confusion,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he added, the sou Kaloo do not wish

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<v Speaker 1>to be disturbed. He only took the elk to feed

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<v Speaker 1>his mate. She has recently given birth and is not

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<v Speaker 1>ready to travel. The answer wasn't good enough for Rick.

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<v Speaker 1>A law enforcement agent can't just take a stranger's word

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<v Speaker 1>and call it a day. The old man could have

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<v Speaker 1>been an innocent messenger, or he could have been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to distract us while his poacher buddies got away with

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<v Speaker 1>our bull. Rick asked the man, well, what is a Sukloo.

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<v Speaker 1>The old man was patient in his response. They're the hairy,

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<v Speaker 1>slant eyed devils of old. Their tribe and ours have

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<v Speaker 1>made peace many years ago, though we have yet to

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<v Speaker 1>reach peace with the Judicula tribe. But our alliance with

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<v Speaker 1>the Suklou keeps the Judicula away from our people. Rick

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<v Speaker 1>called his bs. He grabbed a man's arm and swung

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<v Speaker 1>him around and slapped a handcuff on one of his wrists.

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<v Speaker 1>My life changed then, and there, fifty yards away, a

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<v Speaker 1>monster stepped out from behind a tree and it roared.

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<v Speaker 1>It was unlike anything I had ever seen in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a train horn, an elephant bugle, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lion's roar, all mixed into one enormous sound, and it

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<v Speaker 1>shook through our bodies in the entire forest. The three

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<v Speaker 1>of us were frozen. The old man didn't react at all.

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<v Speaker 1>This creature stood over nine feet tall and was almost

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<v Speaker 1>four feet wide, with the build of a linebacker. We

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<v Speaker 1>could see his muscles flexing as he roared, and we

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<v Speaker 1>could see his large canines as his mouth widened. His

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<v Speaker 1>hair was long, and it covered the majority of his

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<v Speaker 1>body except for the palms of his hands and the

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<v Speaker 1>bottoms of his feet. And his face. His face is

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<v Speaker 1>what got me. There was a hint of something human,

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<v Speaker 1>but also something ape or demon like. The eyes were

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<v Speaker 1>solid black with no visible white, and the nose was

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<v Speaker 1>flattened against his face, like a gorilla with dark gray

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<v Speaker 1>skin pigmentation, and there was no sign of ears on

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<v Speaker 1>either side of its head. My instincts kicked in, as

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<v Speaker 1>it has so many times in private practice, when a

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<v Speaker 1>large animal became unexpectedly uncontrollable, and I took aim with

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<v Speaker 1>the tranquilizer rifle, and I fired immediately after the first

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<v Speaker 1>one impacted the creature, I inserted the second dart and

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<v Speaker 1>readied myself for another shot. The beast stood stationary for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seconds, not seeming to know what had hit him,

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<v Speaker 1>but realizing something was wrong, and began to fade back

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<v Speaker 1>into the dark woods. Brian stood there, slight jawed, not

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything. As Rick composed himself, he handcuffed the old

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<v Speaker 1>man's older wrists and secured him around a small tree,

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<v Speaker 1>and he left the man there and he took the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Tracking the monster. We found it less than one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty yards away, was face down in the forest floor.

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<v Speaker 1>We approached it and the smell became overwhelming. It was

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<v Speaker 1>with their phones as I pulled out a specimen kit

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<v Speaker 1>and took samples of blood and skin and hair. Within

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<v Speaker 1>just a few minutes, this beast had already started to

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<v Speaker 1>regain its awareness. I gave him a shot of something

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<v Speaker 1>to help with the opioid component of the tranquilizer, and

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<v Speaker 1>we began our retreat, with Rick covering our backs with

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<v Speaker 1>his M four. We moved out backwards the way we

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<v Speaker 1>came in, and our eyes trained on the beast as

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<v Speaker 1>we quietly slipped away, but we didn't get much of

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<v Speaker 1>a head start. Within seconds, the beast raised himself upright

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<v Speaker 1>and staggered off into the thick woods like a drunk

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<v Speaker 1>man stumbling home, picked up the pace and made it

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<v Speaker 1>back to the area where we left the older man,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was gone. We found Rick's handcuffs laying on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground in a mysterious cloud of fog around the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't know what to say, there was no sign

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<v Speaker 1>and we quickly headed back to our vehicles. Brian called

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<v Speaker 1>the park office and informed them of what had happened,

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<v Speaker 1>stating that we had photos and specimens to validate the

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<v Speaker 1>existence of sisquatch, but we had a two hour walk

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<v Speaker 1>back to the vehicles. As we walk, we discussed how

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<v Speaker 1>we had evidence of a mythological species and that we

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<v Speaker 1>would be featured on every TV station around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and we might even earn some money from all this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just excited that we could be able to

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<v Speaker 1>put the laws in place to protect these creatures. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a green peace Christmas. Our excitement soon faded as

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<v Speaker 1>we approached our vehicles, we saw two black suburbans with

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<v Speaker 1>blacked out windows and government plates waiting for us. Four

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<v Speaker 1>men dressed in black suits and wearing dark sunglasses stepped

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<v Speaker 1>down and approached us. The one in charge presented his

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<v Speaker 1>credentials badge, and he told us that we had a

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<v Speaker 1>very forgettable day to day and that he needed my

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<v Speaker 1>field pack and our phones. They patted us down and

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<v Speaker 1>made it clear that we had not seen a thing

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<v Speaker 1>other than evidence that a pack of feral dogs had

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<v Speaker 1>to mention anything or our jobs would be history. As

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<v Speaker 1>they were driving away, Brian told us that he was

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<v Speaker 1>afraid that might happen, so he emailed the photos to

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<v Speaker 1>himself and his parents and his girlfriend in Knoxville. We

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<v Speaker 1>were overjoyed, but it was short lived. When I got home,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the and found that my email had

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<v Speaker 1>been entirely wiped out and my eye cloud was empty

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<v Speaker 1>as well. The next day I tracked down both Rick

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian, who told me the same had happened to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian's parents' email had been wiped out and his girlfriend's

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<v Speaker 1>phone quit functioning. She was unable to recover anything, not

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<v Speaker 1>even her contacts. The following week, I submitted my resignation.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to work with or for an employer

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<v Speaker 1>with such questionable ethics. I re established my practice as

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<v Speaker 1>a livestock vet, and I will continue to seek the

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<v Speaker 1>answers I want on my own, including what I have

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<v Speaker 1>already discovered about the two tribes of Bigfoot. First, the

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<v Speaker 1>Soux Kaloo, they simply want to avoid humans and avoid

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<v Speaker 1>all contact. But the Judahicula are not the same. They're

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<v Speaker 1>the evil side of Sasquatch, and we'll take a human's

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain this secrecy, but I would truly like to

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<v Speaker 1>know before I leave this world. Okay, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>we will see you guys on the next one. Thanks
