Speaker 1: And that's why I never read the comment. I just
want to like, I'm not even gonna look amazing tonight.
I love what you're wearing. Always said, oh my god,
you're all I have an angry closs. That is life.
But that's hard, like unless it's like NBA team or.
Speaker 2: Something like.
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for this one. My guest this week has lived about
four lives in the time that most people live in one.
She grew up in Orange County, jumped into the adult
industry in two thousand and three at eighteen, and went
on to shoot over one thousand scenes before walking away
in twenty sixteen. Then she did something that no one
saw coming. She became a firefighter and a paramedic. After
the Route ninety one shooting in Vegas, she dropped everything
and ran towards the fire. Really for the better part
of a decade, and now she's back off contract with Vixen,
eyeing a move to Spiegler and ready to do full
blown studio work again. She's funny, she's fearless, and I'm
so excited to have her. Please welcome the legendary e
A Angelina.
Speaker 1: Hi, thank you for having me. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: No, I'm so excited to have you here. Yeah, it's
been a minute, a long minute.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy because before we started the episode, we
were both talking about how when we were shooting together,
like cell phones were not a thing.
Speaker 2: No, no, and then even the internet, like when I started,
we were still producing VHS's and then the Internet was
like dial up.
Speaker 1: You mean DVDs.
Speaker 2: No VHS cassette too, yeah, wow, cassettes yeah yeah. They
were just starting to transition into DVDs, and it was
just crazy to me because I didn't know how to use,
I how to use do you remember those like TVs
that had the capability of having, uh a DVD. It
was like a built in DVD player and cassette tape player.
They were like it's like we had those, and so
it's like, okay, well we're gonna put this this cassette
tape in there, and that's all the pornos, and then
we're gonna put like the regular, like mainstream movies through
the DVDs because that came out first, and I was like,
oh gosh, like now in retrospect, you kind of rewind.
Speaker 1: I know, I was thinking that.
Speaker 3: When you first said that for those of you who
are of a younger generation and don't remember what it
was like to have a VHS tape. When you would
rent stuff from like Blockbuster, they had all these like
signs that were please be kind rewind because if you didn't,
then they would have to rewind the tape before they
rented it out to other people, which was I guess yeah.
Speaker 2: And then broadbyand Internet. Do you remember when you had
the wait for the dial up and all that. Yeah,
you couldn't be on on on a landline and use
the Internet at the same time.
Speaker 1: You had to pick one yes, and you'd have to
sit there.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is why my mom did so well
in the beginning, because she was like all photos pretty
much because like back then, like you couldn't stream video
on the internet.
Speaker 1: Like get out of here. It wasn't even a.
Speaker 3: Thing, no, not even I mean like even if you
put a video up, it was the smallest resolution, it
would take for ever to download, and it was expensive.
Speaker 1: Bandwith was expensive. So you would, you.
Speaker 3: Know, join Susanet and you would go to look at
the pictures and I just remember in those early days,
you'd be like the noise of the dialing up and
then the picture would appear a pixel by pixel coming
down the screen.
Speaker 2: It's like eternity. Now, it's like everything is instant gratification.
Speaker 1: So do you think that that's.
Speaker 3: A good thing, because I mean, like on some level,
like I love ordering something from Amazon and getting the
next day. Like, there are times, there are many times
where I'm just like, God.
Speaker 1: This is such a better way to live.
Speaker 3: But then there's also, like I think a lot of
problems with society because yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think ultimately, because everything.
Speaker 2: Is literally just on the click of your phone, on
demand instant gratification, people don't really want to work to
get it.
Speaker 1: Done like the proper way.
Speaker 2: Like they won't even leave their house to go pick
up their food, you know it'll be delivered to them.
Or like you can't really plan your shopping because you
don't need to.
Speaker 1: You can just just do it.
Speaker 2: You can do it on the toilet if you wanted to,
you know, and then the groceries end on your doorstep
in an hour. So it's a lot of the work
ethic I think is being kind of robbed subconsciously from
people because everything's just done so easily.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I think also too, and I think this probably only
applies to like certain people, probably like you and me,
who can make our own who can make as.
Speaker 1: Much work for ourselves as we want to.
Speaker 3: Right, because we work for ourselves, one would think that, Okay,
all of these you know, time saving capabilities that we
have will give us more free time to do the
things that we want.
Speaker 1: But I find that I fill that free time with
more work.
Speaker 2: Bring it on, Yeah, I know, I'll go crazy, I
will go crazy. Yeah, I have to work. I feel
like I have to have that sense of purpose. And
when I'm just laying around and just death scrolling and
all that, it's just or doom strolling, I should say
it's I do feel like it's a waste of my time.
Speaker 1: I could be doing other productive things undred percent. I know.
Speaker 3: I always like it's so funny how some things though
that used to be considered a real waste of time
now can be productive in a strange way.
Speaker 1: Like gaming. Right, I think about gaming.
Speaker 3: I think about all these girls who game and get
paid the game because people watch them game. And I
played video games like a little bit in my twenties, but.
Speaker 1: I always felt so guilty about it.
Speaker 3: I always felt like, this is such a waste of
my time I could be doing something better, like I'm
waste and I can't shake that feeling, like still to
this day, like it feels lazy for me to sit
in game.
Speaker 2: It's crazy though, because like my excess and he was
in the army and all they did when they were
off duty was game. And man, I wonder how many
of these soldiers I still do that would be on
Twitch and make money, Like they would probably quadruple their
their military income.
Speaker 3: That you gotta be like hot though, right, well, you
know a game with your shirt off, they probably would anyways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: The all beast mood, adrenaline and you know, testosterone out
and everything.
Speaker 1: I know, it's funny.
Speaker 3: You know they're like actually fighting real wars and then
they're going and playing a video game about fighting like
Call of Dude.
Speaker 1: They're good. They're good though.
Speaker 2: I try to play with them several times if we
have little like gaming parties at our at our house,
and I'm like they're they're literally the whole time and
just respawning me because I'm like dying every two seconds,
and I'm like like I'm just gonna watch.
Speaker 3: Okay, they had the real life experience, Yes, they're very good.
All right, So let's start the beginning, as we always
like to do on this show. So how did you
get into the adult industry at eighteen?
Speaker 2: So? I was a big fan of the O C
Weekly's Adult Employments Classified section.
Speaker 1: I was always the the person.
Speaker 2: In school that like always had the handicam in the
backpack and film stuff and everything, and that would film
things in.
Speaker 1: Like bathroom stalls and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So naturally, when I saw this one ad that stuck out,
it was do you want to shock on all your parents?
Call Kelly Cox at this number? And I'm like, d
it was a brand new, like classified act, I.
Speaker 1: Want to shock in all your parents? Yeah? I was
drawn to that. Wow, that's one help of a hook. Yeah,
it got me. Do you want to shame your family?
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 1: Was like me, I was like, what is it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Yeah, curiosity killed the cat.
Speaker 2: But like because I I knew it was adult stuff,
I just didn't know what it was and come to
find out with Shane's World. So it ended up being
like a legitimate company and they took really good care
of me.
Speaker 1: It was a god. They were huge.
Speaker 3: They used to have these booths at AVM that were
like I think they had a jacuzzi one year.
Speaker 1: I mean they were.
Speaker 3: Massive for those of for those who may not know,
can you explain like what she In's world was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Sheane's world was pretty much like the ogi
of reality adult television.
Speaker 1: I guess you can say.
Speaker 2: The series that I personally used to shoot for all
the time was College Invasion. So what they would do
was they would pre organize a frat party at one
of the universities, even in Canada, they would do it
up there too, and they would pre test certain students,
so we knew when we would go in there which
ones we're testing, who we can mess with. And then
a bunch of poor stars male and females will just
just strut right into these parties and devoured these these
students and it was literally the craziest environment and it was
so so cool, and they eventually they didn't get in trouble.
Something happened off camera. I feel like I remember that
there was a Jack Bennis situation. Yes, yeah, they that
that that college town really used him as an example
and he got screwed. What happened, I can't remember, so
from what I remember, it was after all the parties
were over. Him and another person that were a part
of the crew ended up wandering into a sorority house
and into a room there was a girl sleeping that
was blacked out drunk, and at some point I think,
I think he had pulled out a tampon and she
I don't know if that's right, but like they like
I guess she was woken up by that or like
the opening, like the crinkling of a condom or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I obviously was not there, but there was no actual
sex involved. There was no like physical evidence in.
Speaker 1: There, but there was an intention.
Speaker 2: There was an intention, and the person that he was
with just threw him under the bus. Everything stopped before
anything actually physically happened. But they ended up putt him
in jail for ten years. And yeah, they put him
in jail. He served the full amount of time, but
they ended up giving him a settlement. They sued him,
They sued the the court system and was they he
like left with a bunch of cash. Wow, So he
started a business and now he's being awesome. Like I
spoke to him briefly a few weeks ago, and that
was with Rachel Starr. She gets him on the phone
and stuff, and he's like married with the baby and
like he's doing super awesome, has like an amazing business,
making like a shit ton of money and is living
a normal life.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's a completely different person back then. He
like everybody was kind of reckless when we were putting
that kind of environment yea, like everything like whatever. You know,
we neverget that we're not like when we were not
around Yeah, we're not when we're not on set.
Speaker 1: When we're with like regular people.
Speaker 2: Like the things that we say and do are like
not normal and it's not you know, you can get
you in trouble.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it happened.
Speaker 3: And also like mixing alcohol with like those kinds of
environments and young people and like party environments and god,
I mean that shit would not fly today. You could
not do anything like that because think of all of
the people who were on camera that weren't being involved
in the sexual activity, Like you'd have to get paperwork
and IDs and consent on every single one of them.
You could not have alcohol no way, at least like
you shouldn't, you know. I mean, all of these rules
that we have to regulate, like safety now has just
made the industry so different and back then, I feel
like at the beginning of the Internet, you know, I
mean you can obviously attest to this because you lived it,
but like people were just.
Speaker 1: Doing crazy shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because so many of the restrictions were sort of
lifted because you know, before the Internet came along, you
were bound because you were doing physical distribution of magazines
and DVDs and vhs, s tapes were bound by the
laws of certain states, which is why before the Internet
came along, all the magazine layouts were like technically softcore.
Speaker 1: There wasn't penetration.
Speaker 3: It was just like a guy posing with this semi
flaccid penis next to a girl with.
Speaker 1: My mom shot all this stuff.
Speaker 3: So because like penetration wouldn't be allowed in like Canada
or like you know, other states, and so it just
made more you didn't want to have like five different versions,
right and then also too like so this is actually
I believe what put Max Hardcourt in jail was he
accidentally shipped one of his DVDs that like had all
this you know, crazy like anal stuff to a state
that that was illegal.
Speaker 1: It was Arkansas or something like that.
Speaker 3: I can't remember exactly what it was, and so he
got busted for obscenity.
Speaker 1: In that state and then he went to jail.
Speaker 3: And that was simply because like the wrong DVD with
the wrong content was shit to the wrong state.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: But then when the Internet came along, there was no
like physical location, web you know, content, and so all
of these like regulations just kind of went out the
window because.
Speaker 2: So like they started to really push the envelope on
the obscenity stuff. And I remember then, uh, you know,
the sites like I don't even know if I can
say this, piss mops and old and that kind of
stuff like that was like, I know.
Speaker 1: That was some really fucked up ship. That was. Yeah,
that was some gnarly stuff. You know.
Speaker 2: They started, I really honed down on on what was obscene,
considered obscene, and what was not, and then the obscenities
were then illegal.
Speaker 3: So and obscenity is such like a you know, it's
it's a it's it's a judgment call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a perspective thing you consider because some people
consider Playboy obscene.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, crazy times.
Speaker 3: Okay, so back to you and you are beginning Shane's world.
Speaker 1: Yes, so the cool thing was.
Speaker 2: It was best case scenario because it was me going
on a date similar to Eliminate. I remember that old
show where I go on a date with these two
point start guys, me being a college's age student, you know, person,
and they would do like these little.
Speaker 1: Challenges to win me over.
Speaker 2: And then by the end of the date, I got
to pick whicheveryone I wanted to sleep with on camera, and.
Speaker 1: Then you really got to make that choice. Yeah, and
with one percent of my choice, did you feel bad, like, say,
like denying the one guy?
Speaker 2: Well, I ended up working with them both after that,
and the only reason why I picked and I told
this to him, the only reason why I picked the
other person was because during the eating out portion of
the competition he had like some hair growth coming out
and it was like sandpaper on my vagina.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I'm like, I can't do that again. Okay,
I got it.
Speaker 2: So but like they were both, they were both awesome
and had a great experience.
Speaker 1: So who was the do you remember who the guy? Yes?
So it was Clark Kent and mister Pete. Oh wait,
so who was the winner? So I picked mister Pete. Yeah,
mister Pete, foot on your head mister Pete.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which was funny because even to this day when
I do see him, he was like, you know what,
You're the only female that I've known this long that
I don't owe child support too.
Speaker 1: I'm like, thanks, Oh my god. You know, it's hard
people don't remember.
Speaker 3: I don't think they had a kid together, but people
don't realize he was married to Alexis Texans.
Speaker 1: Is that wild?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I remember when they got married. Man so long ago. Yeah,
it feels like a lifetime ago. So how was your
first scene? Like, how was it? Did you feel comfortable immediately?
Was it nerve wracking?
Speaker 2: It was great because we like we started off at
a restaurant, so then I really got to know them,
you know. As for that amount of time, I gotta
feel more comfortable and just like a talking environment, you know.
Speaker 1: And I knew I was safe because I was in
a public area.
Speaker 2: But the ultimate goal was I kind of already was
used to having sex with people that I didn't know,
and that this was like the root cause of why
I decided to go this route was because I was
meeting random like guys off of like a dating website
that in like random hotels and stuff.
Speaker 1: And I just liked not.
Speaker 2: Knowing their name, you know, like it was a weird
kind of like little little kink I had. But then
I had a scare where nothing really happened, but it
was like, what could have happened?
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you if you ever felt
in danger?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So when I got to this hotel, there was
a post it on the door and it was unlocked,
and it says I went to the vending machine, vending
machine and just help yourself in. I'm like, Okay, if
I go in, this guy's gonna lock the out door
behind me, and then if it's like some crazy like
trafficker or something gnarly, then I'm screwed. And it was
at the Los Angeles Port too, so I'm like, this
is a perfect what could.
Speaker 1: Possibly go wrong? You know, I send you to China?
Speaker 2: So naturally I go in anyway, and I ended up
being like a really like it was a good guy.
We ended up seeing each other for quite a bit
after that, but I was like, I need to.
Speaker 1: Find an alternative, Like there's got to be a better way.
Speaker 2: So when I saw that ad, I was like, oh,
so I get to like get guaranteed forty minutes of
sex charte guaranteed minimum. Yeah, and then there's like there's
like it's a new controlled environment and everybody's tested and
we're safe and I still get to not know their name.
So yeah, it was like the best thing ever. And
I just happened to get paid yes, so it was amazing.
I got the best person. Yeah, I was like what
So it worked out perfectly. And then when they saw that,
I really enjoyed myself and the and I enjoyed the
process of the whole shooting and everything they showed me,
like the different agencies that were around, Like how I
can I keep pursuing it? And then I started venturing
off to shooting for other studios and then the rest
is history.
Speaker 1: So wow, yeah, what is.
Speaker 3: One of the best scenes from your early days that
you kind of look back on and you're like, God,
that was that was an experience.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say it's meant not in the very
very early days, but because Shane's World's got that down,
like hands down, because they took such good care of me,
and just being like in the environment where you're just
being cheered on and everything, it was like, that's going
to definitely hold a special place in my heart. But
the real experience was shooting Upload for Sexy Pictures. That
was the movie that put me on the map. I
feel like, as far as like Award Seasons and stuff go.
Speaker 1: That was a future movie. That was a future movie.
It was the largest budget for that year after that.
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, and I don't remember Sexy Pictures for some reason,
but I remember Upload.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer they lasted after that,
maybe a couple years because the recession hit and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It happened.
Speaker 2: But it was Brent Pryor, it was the or Eli Cross,
I should say it was the director, and I want
Best Actress and all that, like all those crazy like
awards came out of it.
Speaker 1: But there was one scene specifically.
Speaker 2: It was with Evanstone and Sandra Romain, and I remember
we shot the softcore first, and I thought to myself
after that, I'm like, I don't know how I'm gonna
survive the hardcore because if it's gonna get even more crazy,
I don't know what's gonna happen. I might not be
able to shoot the next day like I might. I
might have elipan tinis of my Vagina. It was this wild.
It was just like a wild while a softcore and
then even wilder our hardcore, and it was one of
those ones that.
Speaker 3: Were like, oh yeah, Sandra Remain was crazy. She was
nuts and I loved it. Yeah in a good way,
of course. Yeah, she was so like hardcore. It was fantastic. No,
nothing like nothing could.
Speaker 1: Be too much for her. Yeah. Wow, I don't make
them like that anymore.
Speaker 3: So you retired in twenty sixteen to do commercial realism State.
Speaker 1: So what made you walk away when you did?
Speaker 2: I had been like kind of already back and forth
and having kids and everything, so I had like, once
she went anyway and I went, I came back to
see what was like in twenty sixteen, and the budgets
were down, the morale was down.
Speaker 1: It was just really really just depressing.
Speaker 2: And I remember shooting for a company I used to
shoot for all the time, and they're like, hey, we
can only give you six hundred dollars for this boy
girl scene, and I'm like that is less than the
first day I got into the business.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this is what it's going to be like,
I'm out.
Speaker 2: So and at that time they had just passed a
law where they were going to allow cultivating marijuana, and
I had all these like cultivators that were like, we
need we need we need warehouse space, we need space,
we need space, like and I was always doing like
residential real estate, so I switched over to a commercial
I'm like, this is way more lucrative, right now, let's
do this.
Speaker 1: And I just put all my eggs in that basket.
Speaker 3: So you're doing commercial real estate for cannabis companies. Oh wow,
that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was crazy because my clients would like show up
and they're like just got their their grow house like raided,
and they would show up with like a gunshot wound
and all bandage stuff and everything.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is so gangster. I'm like, this is
not gonna look good with the owner of the years. Wow,
oh my god.
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're gonna lie about how how you got
that injury?
Speaker 1: You were on the gun range and the yeah, yeah
this year hunting yep. So.
Speaker 2: And then when a year later, a year and a
half later, I think it was October seventeen, twenty seventeen,
my daughter and my ex husband were at the Route
ninety one Music Festival Country music festival. They were there,
and the day before they were there, so I thought
the day of the shooting they were still there. Little
did I know that they had gone to a night's
game that night instead. And so while I'm seeing everything
unravel in real time on Snapchat, I'm thinking they're there,
and I'm thinking I need to be there. I need
to be there, and like I need to like help
these people. It was like this undeniable urge to like
be first on scene. And after I got the green
light that my kid was okay and everybody was in
a different place, I was like, Okay, now what can
I do to serve? And I like donated blood. I
started the process. They're like storry volunteering for Red Cross,
and I'm like this is not enough. And I spoke
to my firefighter friend who works out of San Francisco Department,
and he was like, you just.
Speaker 1: Need to be a firefighter.
Speaker 2: Like that's like the only way you got to be
a firefighter. You're already been doing Cross wait for five years,
You've been training for the job without you even knowing.
Speaker 1: You know, it's meant to be. So I was like, Okay,
let's do this.
Speaker 2: And I found out that LACD Fire was starting their
hiring process and in order to get your name in
the hat, you have to get your EMT. But I
was like, I didn't have the full amount of time
I needed to get my AMT certification I had to do.
UCLA has a four week program, so instead of being
a four month program, I did a four week program
and just immersed myself in it. And I actually found
out that I was pretty decent with like the theory
side of things, you know. I only I didn't have
any like hands on experience except for like our four
ride alongs or whatever, so I knew I kind of
I felt like this is where I needed to be
at that point, you know. So wow, I think it
was kind of coming into place really easily, and I
was like, oh, all right.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine like the terror of that, you know,
being a mother myself and like, oh my gosh, the
insane amount of like fear that is born alongside your child,
of like your child's welfare is.
Speaker 2: Like and you can't get a hold of them because
all the towers are going but INA's you know, cell
cell phone's usage is like there's no way there's no
way that. It's just too much for the towers.
Speaker 3: So tell me about like actually being a firefighter, Like
what was that?
Speaker 1: Like? It's like being an action hero going to work
and everybody loves you too. Everyone loves firefighters, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Like, there was one time I got asked the question.
It was we were doing like a mock interview, and
they were like, so, why why did you choose being
a firefighter instead of a cop? And me, like being new,
not knowing how to answer questions yet for the interview,
I was like, well, everybody's always happy to see a firefighter. Yeah,
and it's all honest truth because you're literally showing up
on their worst day to be the remedy to help,
you know, And it's just it was. It was a
great experience I got with a very very good department.
They were so accepting of me. They knew what was
going on I started my passage. Yeah, they knew what I.
Speaker 1: Was, what I had done, and they just didn't care.
They stuck up for me.
Speaker 2: My fire chiefs stuck up for me and went out
to bat for me one hundred and ten percent. Gave
me all the opportunity in the world. They paid for
my tech rescue classes, so they put me on the
Tech rescue team has MAC technician team like all all
everything swift wat to rescue. They let me do everything
I wanted and and that doesn't happen very often. Yeah,
Usually when you become a medic, you're stuck on being
a paramedic and you're just doing the EMS.
Speaker 1: Stuff hor a fire. So I was like, I was lucky. Wow,
do you have any You must have seen some crazy things, yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, there was.
Speaker 2: I think probably the most memorable was, uh, it was
a vehicle accident.
Speaker 1: And it was in the middle of the night and.
Speaker 2: We had to cut out the body out of the car,
so she was already deceased dead on arrival, and I
remember seeing that her there was like no blood, there
was no blood around, So I made me feel like
that was, you know, dead on impact and her leg
you can see her leg just so so just flesh
off the bone, and the motor was in the backseat
and it was just such a gnaria accident and it
took us a good hour or so to get her
out and come to find out it was a young
woman twenty one years old on her twenty first birthday,
and it was a sheriff officer's daughter, so it was
like the worst case scenario. It's like a woman just
barely starting her adult life. And then to know that
that was a fellow first responder's daughter, it's like everybody's
worst nightmares a f sponder.
Speaker 3: So did that make you feel like afraid for the
possibilities of what could happen to you or did it
make you feel grateful for the fact that, like you
are alive and healthy or is a mix of.
Speaker 2: Both's So, if anything, I'm more cautious now because.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a trauma Earth, that's trauma all Earth, Like,
don't do that. This is what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: And I send my daughter's stuff where I'm like, like,
don't put your foot on the dashboard.
Speaker 1: This is an X ray of what happens when you
get in a car. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not paying the hospital bill, so don't
do stupid stuff, and stupid stuff won't happen to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, and then obviously there's like the final destination moments
where like there was no no way you can you know,
show herself from that. Yeah, So I try to make
sure that they that they are aware. I was the
kind of mom that made them watch Walking Dead at
like three and five years old, Like you first start
a run, Okay.
Speaker 1: So ill be apocalypse's comings.
Speaker 2: I'm a prepper, so yes, I have my gas masks
and my my potassim eid one all like you know everything,
you better believe it.
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 3: Do you have another fire fighting story that stuck with
you that maybe was like like a good one with
a positive experience.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's a couple.
Speaker 2: There was one where we it was another vehicle accident,
multiple vehicles involved, and we were in an intersection and
the woman had I believe it was six unrestrained young
children in the vehicle and then one.
Speaker 3: When you see and restrained, you mean like no seats
like yeah, like that, and she was a goddamn car.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well they were small, so they just all jam packed. Yeah.
And the one that I was catering to was the
one that got ejected about eight years old, and we
had to airlift him. So my job was to package
this child up so it was ready to be airlifted
to the flight menex and the flight.
Speaker 1: Nurses and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I had to start this IV and it's like
the smallest little catheter like gauged needle, and we're like
in a moving box and there's like multiple people doing
multiple things at once, and I'm like, I gotta do this, okay.
Speaker 1: I don't want to cause more harm, you know.
Speaker 2: And I just remember nailing it on the first time,
like nailing the ivy and thinking to myself, holy cow.
Speaker 1: I freaking did it. Because he was a hard stick.
Speaker 2: Anyways, he was darker skinned and he was like decompensating,
so at that point you're you're you're kind of you're tanking.
So it was kind of like a shoot in the
dark and hoping for the best kind of thing. And
then in a moving box and I got it, and
I just remember it was like a victorious moment. I
was so happy. And then I had stories. I had
a call where, uh, there was a donkey that had
been trapped from a collapse bridge and she was stuck
or she was stuck in mud overnight and she was
super lethargic lethargic when we got there, and we used
our high angle mechanical like advantage techniques from tech rescue
to be able to get her out of like literally
up to our torso and mud and got her out.
Speaker 1: It was like in a tray you moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like was barely able to get get her movement,
but we got We got cookies for the next month
at reshift. It was the best thing ever. And we
got stickers made and everything. So see lu I believe
it was her name, and she survived and I was
a great happy moment. Yeah, we saved the donkey today.
Speaker 1: Not very typical.
Speaker 3: So it's like my favorite videos to watch on Yeah,
like saves an animal from a seemingly impossible situation. Right,
So I have to ask you about the Daily Mail.
They blew your cover the day you graduated the academy.
The article hit three counties worth of fire departments. How
did you find out and what was that day actually?
Speaker 2: Like, so I remember it was the last day that
we were on the fire grounds at the fire Academy,
and we had already passed our state exams and we
were just turning in gear and stuff like that, and
I remember leaving and all of a sudden, you get
text from one of the the one of my one
of my guys. So I was a squad leader, so
one of my guys on my squad, he texted me
is like, I just want you to know that this
link is being passed around all between all the all
the counties, and I'm like, what link?
Speaker 1: What now? And I click on the link And did
you sort of know before you even clicked on it
like what it was going to be? But it was
definitely I knew it was going to be something, because.
Speaker 2: I can't have a day where I can just feel
like I completed a massive obstacle without it then getting foot.
Speaker 1: In my face. But yeah, it kind of.
Speaker 2: Did me a favor though, because then I didn't have
to worry about breaking the ice about that when I
would do my interviews when I'm trying to get hired.
Speaker 1: So everybody already knew, and.
Speaker 2: It allowed me to not have that uncomfortable conversation because
and I already knew had an idea. At least one
of the instructors knew because the day that they were
assigning our gear, he called me by my maiden name
was which was only found on my Wikipedia. He didn't
call me by my married name, which was nowhere online.
Speaker 1: So I was like, this guy knows. This guy definitely knows.
He checked me out.
Speaker 2: On Wikipedia for sure. Oh my god, I didn't used
that last name in like ten years.
Speaker 3: So did anybody ever ask you about it, like on
the down low on the job, or did anybody ever
think that it was a license to treat you a
certain way or like think that that they'd be able
to like get in your pants or.
Speaker 2: There was this I think it was my third shift,
and I remember we used to share our station with EMS,
our county EMS system, and there was one paramedic that
we were just joking around. He walks past me and
just like smacks the back of my ass in front
of my crew, and I was like, huh, you know,
laughing it off, like try not to make a scene
out of it because it's like my third day, and
I'm like, try not to be an HR disaster because
I was like the biggest thing that I heard from
other departments that they were fearful I would be an
HR disaster. So I'm like, I'm not going to be
that person because of your previous Yeah, and my crew
they he actually reported one of my firefighters reported him
and was like straight brother protection over me, and I
was like really really nice. So it's like I didn't
have to feel like it was me that was starting drama.
Like they were witnessed to it, and you know, so
there was that, and then I definitely spoke about it.
I felt like, you know, I'm a very open book
and I want people to hear it from me rather
than having their own, you know, misconceptions.
Speaker 1: Of what reality is. You know.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, we don't like break out and like
gang bangs randomly and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And I've actually been told that. I was like, do
you guys just like like, oh, just do game bangs
all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, but we all sure Thanksgiving dinner with
each other, you know, like come on, it's like relax, guys.
So I rather than hear it from me and then
it like me showing them that I'm not shameful or
or like just embarrassed in any way, shape or form,
it made him feel like it was not It didn't
have to be an uncomfortable like conversation.
Speaker 1: To have it.
Speaker 3: Like it takes the power away from like any sort
of shame building around it if.
Speaker 1: You fully own it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, it's funny when you say about a gang bangs.
It makes me think.
Speaker 3: It always makes me laugh because you know, I had
grid Master on and you know. He I asked him, like,
what was one of the things that surprised you about
the adult industry when you got into it.
Speaker 1: He's like, I thought that we were orgy.
Speaker 3: He's like, you know, I would to these parties and
I thought, like, you know, we go to these parties
and like we'd have Orgi's and it's like, people don't
do that. They act like normal people. Like you go
to a party and you have drinks and you talk.
Speaker 1: It used to be like that in the very beginning.
I remember XRCO.
Speaker 2: There was one time me and te Reeal we just
like sorry going after in the press room really yeah.
Speaker 1: And like it just ended up being a full blown
scene And I'm like, can I get a copy of
that from my fops.
Speaker 3: OCO, by the way, is one of the oldest award shows,
like you get started in like nineteen eighty or nineteen
eighty one before me. Yeah, I know, because I actually
found old footage of my mom, oh wow at the
XRCO Awards accepting an award of giving out an award
with Ron Jeremy. Her and Ron Jeremy were at the
at the UH stage on the mic like yeah present
it just crazy, so uh you're also a unicorn in
the swinger lifestyle. Can you explain that to people who
may not understand what that means.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, like how it's like, so, I've
always been in the lifestyle or you know, having uh
being either in a relationship or married and going to
these swinger parties and doing like full swap type of
you know whatever. And even when I was younger, before
the adult industry, I've always been not like a monogamous
person like in monogamous relationships.
Speaker 1: I just say, and I guess, uh.
Speaker 2: I rejoined the lifestyle because I was having issues getting late.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went through a two year.
Speaker 2: Spell drive spell when I was a firefighter and finally yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, so hold on because you're hot. Obviously, was it
like you didn't have time to date? I mean you
obviously could have, Like I'm assuming there was a big
no no sleeping with like your fellow right, and you
probably didn't want to jeopardize your career in that way.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be the person that they would
expect me to be having just making my around the
HR disaster, Yeah, the HR disaster, And so I made
it a point tonight in a that and then and
really in like regular civilian world, I could not get
anybody to perform. Like the issue is they like will
be like hot and have you and ready to go,
and then like lifeless like no, like no.
Speaker 1: Life on planet Earth down the are Like I think
they were intimidated by you. It's very possible. Did they
know that you had been an adult sty I always
assumed that everybody knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's like because then then, oh
I had no idea. I'm like yeah, whatever, like like
I'm sure you like there's no way you can't know
if you were a teenager in your life when when
I was in the industry, then you definitely I was
on your hard drive.
Speaker 1: There's no way. I'm shot so much. There's no way.
Speaker 2: LimeWire for sure, okay had me like all over your vision.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So so then there was that or like they were
just like not in like thirty seconds and them just
pissed off where they have a micro PENI ands I'm
like wow, I was like bring a hot dog down.
Speaker 1: A hallway like like like that it was good for you.
Speaker 3: So so I assume that like penis size is important to.
Speaker 2: You, it does to an extent because like I've had
average guys that like rock my world. I've had a
micro penis that literally every time I slept with him,
I would squirt buckets and I mean micro penis. It
was the weirdest thing. He was shorter than I am.
It was this tie black guy and literally just.
Speaker 1: But he must have made just squirt with his hand. No,
what is micro penis? Yes? How does that? I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was an act of God and then we were
able to replicate it over and over again.
Speaker 1: I saw him often. Okay, hold on home, you say
micro penis like how big? Like like I would have
to jerk him off with two fingers. There was no
like full of fist wrapping around.
Speaker 2: It was so like two inches I would say, like
three inches three inches. We had a big mushroom cap
headed okay, And I feel like when and that would
just go in and I had like a curve too.
I feel like that I would literally be like a
toy like one of those crews like that Hagar spot.
And it got me, Oh, I'm an equal opportunity employee
over here, like and then like I also get the
people who are like, are do you just like black guys.
I'm like, listen, there's there's only one race, and that's
the human race in my book, and it just so
happens that I get up with them, and I do
love it. I love from Virginia a black boy, but I.
Speaker 1: Just it's not like something I seek, you know, It's
just different.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's as far as the size, Yeah, I
like to I don't like it to be too large
where I can't deep throam because then I feel I
have to remove my molars and I don't want to
do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I actually feel the same way, and then then it
feels like I feel like I'm not accomplished.
Speaker 1: Right Yeah there. Yeah, speaking of like monster dicks, have
you had? Have you done like Dread or anyone like that.
Speaker 2: I haven't worked with Dread yet, but I do have
a collab with Nicki.
Speaker 1: Ben's in the books right now that we're.
Speaker 3: With Nicki, Ben's and Tread, I was like, cause Nikki
doesn't be yeah, no.
Speaker 2: US three so oh wow, Yeah, that's going to be
in the end of August.
Speaker 1: It's such a nice guy. I'm sure you've met him.
I think I've just met him in Passing Ben.
Speaker 2: It's lovely it's crazy because I don't know any I
feel like I'm the new kid on the block, so
I don't know anyone except for like the people from
prior to ten years ago. So I'm learning new faces
and new names. And and that's just the one that
everybody's been saying, you need to work with him because
I worked with Shane Diesel. I worked with the Mendango
and Lexington Steele and those bigger guys, and.
Speaker 1: Uh, they're like, they're like, you need to do anal
with him. I'm like, wait, wait, let me just see
it first. Get it.
Speaker 2: Like everybody's reception, I'm large is as different, but it's
like Shane Diesel, Yeah okay, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: What's it like like coming back and being you know,
do you feel all almost like a newbie even though
you're a veteran because you've been out for so long.
Speaker 2: Yes, because everything's changed, like names, like the lingo has changed,
even like collapse used to be concient trade mainstream was
never porn, okay with real movies. When people were like, oh,
you shoot mainstream, I'm like what, No, I don't like, no,
you shoot like pro stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess.
Speaker 2: And then you have like the creator like side of things,
and then like that the pro girl type things of
the studio work, and then there's like the influencer like bubble,
and it's like there's so many different layers to the
business now, and then also social media being like your
traffic generating machine. Like before it was just like my
digital photo album, and now I'm like I have to
worry about algorithms and shadow banning and all this crazy
Stuff'm like, wait, like I need to like find somebody
that knows all about this because I don't. This is
all different language.
Speaker 3: So have you found the industry to be more lucrative
since you've gotten back?
Speaker 2: I feel like there's definitely this guy's limit. The ball
is in our court now as a female as far
as how far we want to take it. And ultimately,
you know, yes, it's good to do the studio work,
to do you know, to stay relevant and and and
see that side of the industry too, But really there's
there's women that don't even shoot hardcore stuff on OnlyFans
that that make a ship ton of money, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of money and it's just where
you want to take it.
Speaker 2: How far do you want to go and and and
I always tell people it's like, you know, ultimately, it's
like the military. You got to use the military, not
let it use you, just like you got to use
the adult industry and not let it use you because it.
Speaker 1: Will interesting, like in what way?
Speaker 2: Well, but being taken advantage of, you know, by whether
it's a management company or an agency or a studio
or something like that, you know, doing some things outside
of your comfort zone, rather than you be a sort
of advocate for yourself and then and then and then
market yourself like you're this like one hundred thousand dollars horse,
you know, like you could you could be a ten
thousand dollar horse. But if you market yourself like one
hundred thousand dollars horse, then everyone's gonna believe it, and
then you.
Speaker 1: Are you know.
Speaker 2: So it's it's it's kind of nice to have that ability.
Before we just relied on the companies to do the
marketing for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you had so much less choice. Yeah, it's
like did I make the box cover?
Speaker 2: I remember swifting through Avian magazine and seeing what movies
I shot that had me on the box cover, and
that was like, okay, cool, and that was it that
was the marketing?
Speaker 3: So I mean speaking of so you came in at eighteen, right,
did you find that you had a hard time setting
boundaries with people? Did you find that there were times
that you were taking advantage of looking back?
Speaker 1: Would you have started later if you could have?
Speaker 2: I probably would have started later, just because I had
already wanted to be a nine on one dispatcher at
that point and the pouring kept me from that, because
I felt like that would have been a stepping stone
to do first responding, like you know, the first the
firefighter aspect and I and I do wish I would
have started that much sooner. I uh, I do feel
like in the beginning, I because I just didn't know.
There was one time I went into a studio and
it was later, it was later at nights, and I
didn't realize that my my agent at that time was
basically a suitcase pimp. So I was like waiting for
the camera guy to show up and all that stuff
was like maybe it's hidden.
Speaker 1: I was just naive. I didn't know, and ended up
being kind of like a.
Speaker 2: Like an escorting gig it with me and another girl
and then we just we just ended up just talking
their things and then and then we got paid.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well where was the camera? But
I didn't know.
Speaker 2: But I just didn't know better because I was I
lived in it. I grew up in a very very
good environment. I wasn't really exposed to like the bad
side of of certain things and that that kind of
dark world.
Speaker 1: So I just didn't really think that was something I
was doing.
Speaker 2: You were trusting, Yeah, I just didn't think. I didn't
think like that. It just wasn't part of my comprehension.
So at the end of the day, I do feel
like those type of situations hardened me in a sense
where now I advocate for myself now, like you kind
of have to do those kind of like have those
moments we're like, oh.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that again. That's the boundary. It's been
set now.
Speaker 3: So yeah, what advice would you give to like your
eighteen year old self or anybody looking to come into
the industry.
Speaker 1: It will be.
Speaker 2: Around forever if you ever plan on having another career
or if you think this is forever, it's not. And
anticipating having to go into the workforce outside of a
shooting porn and that's going to follow you. People will
recognize you, and people will there will be the stigma,
and you know, you may just end up seeming to
other people through their eyes as a pretty girl with
the body and nothing more than that. So if you
if you have substance and you want and you want
that to be seen in the long run, without that
the dark cloud.
Speaker 1: Hovering over you, I would give a long look.
Speaker 2: Because even when I was in real estate, there would
be people that would just fans that would come and
contact me, not letting me know that they were a fan,
and give me fake proof of funds and like.
Speaker 1: Just so they could meet so they can meet me.
Speaker 2: Or like there was one guy would I took out
two days worth of showing property, wrote a contract, got it,
accept it, and then he pulled out. I was like, oh,
I'm sorry, I didn't really want it after all? Do
you want to go get like cocktails? And I was
like come on, I was like, I'm not having drinks
with you until after ascrow has closed and everything's been funded.
Speaker 1: There's not a chance.
Speaker 2: And then people like death like writing my kids because
I called them out, and that that fake pof of
funds thing and all that it's and even when I
was doing cosmetology. I had left the business for a
second to pursue cosmetology and be a hairdresser. And when
I was trying to use my fans and my social
media as like your way to get clients, they would
just end up in the parking lot waiting for me
to leave the salon so they can follow me home.
So yeah, stuff like that that kind of ruined it
for life after porn just makes it much much more difficult.
So think about those things, and then also like relationships too.
I find it very difficult to have a relationship being
in this industry and even outside when I during that
six year period, I had a lot of issues.
Speaker 1: Even getting late apparently, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's like it's so many things you don't think
about when you're eighteen.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just gonna have fun, you know.
Speaker 3: It's much more than what is the biggest obstacle that
you find in dating, specifically getting a date in the
first place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get asked to go on dates. They
I'm just kind of like not on the table as
far as they're concerned, you know. So it's kind of
another reason why I went into the lifestyle because it's
not so taboo. They're more jaded in the lifestyle, and
I can get my sex those strings attached and be
able to.
Speaker 1: Have fun experiences and.
Speaker 2: Meet connection, like have connections with people when I don't
really get to.
Speaker 1: Have that with regular, non lifestyle, non foreign people.
Speaker 3: So tell me a little bit more about the lifestyle.
What if people get wrong about the lifestyle, what is
it given you.
Speaker 2: I think people believe that swingers are just a bunch
of old people, or like there's a hot wife and
then an ugly husband. It depends on where you go, obviously,
But I just went on this Cancun trip to Temptation
Resort and there was a full blown takeover.
Speaker 1: It was a tryst.
Speaker 2: I'm told this is a plug right now because this
was an amazing week long trip and I've never been
around so many hot people in my life, like fashion
runway type model looking women with like athletic or bodybuilding husbands,
and I'm like, I am a kid in the candy stork.
Usually it's like everyone's praying on me because I'm the unicorn.
I am like eating mean money mue, you know, like yeah, amazing.
So yeah, so it is possible and it's just getting
in with the right groups of swinger community to be
invited and and and it's not hard to get invited
as a unicorn, especially if.
Speaker 1: You're a girl. Yeah you're a girl.
Speaker 2: If you're a guy, then you better get with a
hot chick because yeah, it's gonna.
Speaker 1: Be more way.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean the swinger lifestyle has changed that.
My parents used to be swingings, and I remember they
said that they went to like I think the first
swinger party they went to is.
Speaker 1: Back in like the seventies, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: She was like, my mom was like, we were like
the best looking people there, and afterwards, like the guy
who ran it like just kept calling them again and
again and like begging them to come back.
Speaker 1: My mom also had this.
Speaker 3: Oh God, she had this theory where she considered herself
like the goddess of love.
Speaker 1: It's a very generous spirit.
Speaker 3: So she'd find the ugliest person in the room and
go fuck them because she felt bad for them and
she wanted to like grant them the generosity of like
having sex with her hot I.
Speaker 1: Call that a sympathy. Fuck.
Speaker 3: There's such a bizarre amount of like generosity of heart
and narcissism wrapped up in that.
Speaker 1: I don't really know how to take it. That's so
funny speaking up my mom. Actually we were talking earlier.
Speaker 3: You said you had a funny story about her because
so my mom shot Eva quite a bit back in
the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we Okay, I remember the first time I
was shooting for her. Derek was my agent, and Derek, Hey, Derek, Hey,
down't bait y'all light. Yeah, and like here he gave
me the lowdowns, like if you're not a ten when
you show up, she'll just send your asshole.
Speaker 1: So kim knowing that, yeah, that's entirely true.
Speaker 2: But okay, well, like your nails done right and like
look like just kept well yeah, keep and stuff like
that if you show up like.
Speaker 1: A train rag and you're like, we can't shoot this. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he had booked me the night before for this
thing called porn Star punch Outs, Okay, and it was
a bunch of us porn chicks hosted by Ron Jeremy
in this boxing match, and we all thought that we
were gonna have those like fun inflatable boxing gloves and
we're just getting like and then.
Speaker 1: There was no harm done.
Speaker 2: You know when we get there, it's like full blown boxing.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: They want us to box each other with like legit
gloves and we don't know who we're fighting. I told
the girls, I'm like, whoever I get paired with, I
will let you win.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit about this. I have a
shoot for sues tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I can't look like I just got beat up. I can't.
There's no way.
Speaker 2: So of course I told I told the when I
when I I ended up doing the fight the girl.
Speaker 1: The first scene that she did was hit me.
Speaker 2: Full blown, like like full force okay in my face,
and I was like I saw red after that, and
I remember I I was so in in this fight,
blacked out. When I got done, my nails had like
broken inside of my gloves. Okay, so I'm like missing
like four nails. I'm like, it's like midnight. How am
I going to fix this? Like I need like press
ons and what like. So it was like it was
dramatic for me. So I was like, I can't be
sent home it sues. Everybody wanted to shoot for her,
but she was so like her her minimum standard was
so high. Yeah yeah, and it was like I just
needed to look at my best when I showed up.
Speaker 1: So thanks, Derek added this extra stress.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that you like somehow figured out the nail
thing and you shut up and everything, Yes.
Speaker 2: And everything was fine. That it was like like full disclosure.
All the girls like, don't it me hard. I will
let you win. This is not like no I ever
see this. Okay, Like I don't care about this. I
care about sus Oh you're shooting with sues. We're gonna
fucking beat you up. Wow, that is so funny. How
long were you away for the adult industry for? So?
Speaker 1: It was twenty sixteen, it was I think, so no,
it was eight years. Eight years. What brought you back? Oh? Goodness, gracious.
Speaker 2: While I was dealing with family issues being a single mom,
and my teenage daughter decided to be a menace to society,
so I had to put her in a military boy
in school and on a fire income that's like half
more than half of my income. And so when I
started to like really tap into my savings and everything,
I had my one of my fire girlfriends like, what
are you doing? I'm like, what do you mean? It's like,
I you literally have a winning lottery ticket. You won't
cash it in. And it's like, but like, I worked
so hard for this career, like you.
Speaker 3: Work so hard to get out of the adult industry,
to get away from the stigma that it attaches. Yeah,
I would like have a normal life, like get a
real job, as so many people's say, Yeah, get.
Speaker 2: A real career like I had. It was a perfectly
good career. I was super happy. It's just I didn't
have the support system. And that was the only thing
that that had changed through the career was that, you know,
I left my boy around all this like stuff. I
didn't have the family either out there in Florida, and
and and I was afraid I was gonna run on her. Honestly,
I thought that she would like end up like hit
by a car, like you know, running the streets in
some og who knows, like all the all the thoughts.
Speaker 1: Were going through, all the things that you saw. Yeah
that was not the internment, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And putting her in military boarding school was kind of
like my way of saving her life.
Speaker 1: And until I figured things out, and.
Speaker 2: Ultimately I just said fuck it, pulled the trigger and
I left quietly until anybody except my fire chief and
the one girl that that had had a hard heart with.
Speaker 1: Me and and then just left.
Speaker 2: Had some really great shifts towards the end where I'm like, man,
I really want to leave, like come on.
Speaker 1: But I still do the swift water Rescued.
Speaker 2: I'm an adjunct instructor for the company that teaches all
the firefighters and beach patrol swift water rescues. I still
do that a few times a year. And I'm working
on my pre rex for medical school right now too,
so oh wow, Yeah, so I'm definitely going towards emergency medicine,
and you know, we'll just we'll see how, you know,
the starting over with the dealing with the stigma of
having returned and now trying to get into medical school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that might be in the career of the end.
Let's let's be real. I mean, you gotta try. I
have to try. The time is going to go buy anyways. Yeah, yeah,
that's a good point.
Speaker 3: Okay, So when you decided to make the return to porn, like,
what was your because You're like, Okay, I'm just gonna
leave and go into this full time.
Speaker 1: So what was your plan?
Speaker 3: Like, did you have studios lined up that you know
you wanted to shoot, were you going to start only fans?
Speaker 1: But you weren't going to do it until you let
like what was the plan?
Speaker 2: So I didn't start my only fans until I put
in my my resignation.
Speaker 1: So I gave him the two weeks notice, and then.
Speaker 2: I still, like, I still opened the account and like
started setting everything up and social media's and stuff, but
I hadn't started making content yet. And then I actually
the first conversation I had, I was on a ski
trip with those those firefighters that convinced me, and I
called Kieran Lee and I was like, tell me, like,
what do I do? Everything's different. You know, my old
agents aren't agents anymore. So I'm like I came and
just talk to them and and I was just going
in blindly, and he gave me like the low down
and put me in touch with Browsers. And then I
got in touch with my old publicist, Mike Maas.
Speaker 1: Not knowing that he was running Vicent. Yeah, running Vicent.
Speaker 2: And then he's like, don't sign anything yet, I'll be
give me a day. I was like, okay, whatever that means.
And then then the next day he's like, here's a contract. Wow.
Speaker 3: And being able to come back under the Vixen umbrella
is a huge deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was really really nice.
Speaker 2: I was definitely just taking really good care of you know,
shooting great quality.
Speaker 1: Movies with great talent and.
Speaker 2: Having just just not realizing how big Vixen was too,
and I was like, sure, I've never been contracted before,
Let's do it. It's maz you know, I love him, and
just to be with that safe space that I know
so well it was nice too. And seeing some of
the old director like laurn Sky he was directing and
Derek those are and those are my.
Speaker 1: Old peeps and stuff, so it felt really good. And
then yeah, just.
Speaker 2: They also did the gang Bang for the Firefighter gang Bang.
That was I'm all proud of. I remember calling it
my fire Chief and like, hey, just you know this
is happening, so.
Speaker 1: Just be prepared.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be released on this date, so people might
be talking about it.
Speaker 1: So just wanted to give your heads up. I just
wanted to give a little nod to yeah, wow, you
might be hearing some shatter.
Speaker 3: Was there a part of you that was worried like
people wouldn't remember you or you would come back and
like you wouldn't be able to support yourself through this
career or were you pretty confident that it was going
to work out.
Speaker 1: There's always a way.
Speaker 2: I feel like, if you allow yourself to be defeated
and you surrender, then yeah, that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But I'm too tenacious for that. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't take no for an answer. And
there's my mind My mind frame is always like there's
always like there's got to be a better way. If
this is not working, there's got to be a better way,
you know, just finding alternatives and seeing what what what
clicks and having the aha moments and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean you've definitely, like you know, traveled
so many different paths. It seems that you're not somebody
who's easily dissuaded by a little bit of failure, which
you know, they say the road to success.
Speaker 2: Kay, failing your time, You fails when you fail when
you stop attempting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, every failed attempt is not.
Speaker 2: A failure verse I step closer to the discusses.
Speaker 3: So yeah, well, Eva, thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 1: It was so good to see you again. Thank you
so much for having me on such for notice. Of course, no,
it was a pleasure. Of course.
Speaker 3: We're going to be doing a separate little segment for
Patreon where Patreon members can send in their questions and
Eva will answer them for you. Go to patreon dot com, slash,
Holly Randall and filtered for access to that. But for now,
can you tell everyone where they can find you on social?
Speaker 2: Yes, my Instagram is Evangelina dot tv, Twitter is Eva Angelina,
and my YouTube channel is Eva Angelina TV.
Speaker 3: Perfect Amazing, And you guys, of course can follow me
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