Speaker 1: Main topic of the day, and the first main topic
of the day is a rumor, but it's it's a
fun rumor to talk about.
Speaker 2: We got our boy Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan speculatively returning in Avengers Doomsday.
Speaker 2: That's the first one I said, returning.
Speaker 1: But I guess it is possible that well probably likely,
that it isn't the one that we knew and and
grew fun. He's long gone, yeah, exactly, but resurrections happen, right,
LOOKI came back, he died.
Speaker 3: I mean, he came back, and BP two has like
a soul in the shadow realm or whatever.
Speaker 2: I completely forgot about that. It's what a while since
ever you watched that movie. But yeah, I mean, I
I'll just kind of go first.
Speaker 1: But Michael Jordan, I'm a big fan of his and
I think he's just fantastic, So I definitely wouldn't be
deterred by the news by any means. It's a seat
her Scooper, so of course it can go either way,
but I think that would definitely boost the hype overall,
just having him a part of it, I think, especially
just people that loved him in that first Black Panther movie,
like I think that would be a big draw because
a lot of non MCU fans I think just really
love that movie, and I think that would just yeah,
just just especially coming off centers, Like people are just
pretty hyped on Michael B.
Speaker 2: Jordan.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're fans of him, they'll be fans
of him. But I think he just he's got really
good range of a character and or sorry of an actor,
and I think he can bring that character in different directions,
like it doesn't just have to be the kill Monger
that we saw.
Speaker 2: I think the rumor also.
Speaker 1: Something about like him being the Black Panther kind of
like this version of it, So that would be also
a fun avenue to explore. But yeah, what do you
think about this news?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess the idea here with this rumor is
that he would be featured in like an alternate or
like a multiverse Avengers team that would be in the movie.
So I guess that's my biggest question mark is like, goddamn,
isn't this movie already jam packed enough? Like we have
our current Avengers, which we kind of need to establish,
like we we you know, saw names on chairs, but
we haven't even seen them, like interact with each other.
We have the New Avengers slash the Thunderbolts, we have
F four, we have who else.
Speaker 2: We have like a whole squad of.
Speaker 3: X Men people in there as well, So it's like,
I don't do we also shove and then we have
like villains in dooms like Doom and whatever. His posse
is looking like if he's got multiple people with him.
So it's like, I don't know, do we squeeze a
whole other multiverse Avengers.
Speaker 2: Team in there?
Speaker 3: And like are they meaningfully in there or they just
like a quick cameo or they just like die off
for some reason. Like I don't know what's going on there,
But I feel like if you're gonna bring him back
and give him that position, like do Black Panther for
a movie, I feel like I would want that to
be maybe another project where you can actually like really
chew on it. But I just feel like this is
like a such a jam packed movie that I don't
really know how like throwing a whole other team in
there is gonna work very well.
Speaker 2: I just feel like this is already so dense, So
I don't know.
Speaker 3: But like other than that, I don't really know what
the context would be of him like being in this
you know. One of the things we've talked about before
is that seemed like, Okay, well, obviously if down he's
coming back and he's was Ironman, but now he's dooms
Day or he is now he's Doom, Like he's fucking
doing that. And then we have Chris Evans maybe coming
back and he you know, was Captain America now he's
Captain Hydro or whatever the heck's going on there. I
kind of feel like Michael, but Jordan could like fit
right in that realm of But then it's like, well,
are you doing like an evil Black Panther as part
of the team or would he be coming back as
Killmonger and like be part of this villain team because
that could be cool? Uh, and that could be interesting
and fun. But yeah, I think I'm he's great, He's outstanding.
Obviously we got a little bit of time of him,
you know, being Black Panther, I guess.
Speaker 2: A little bit when he took the throne.
Speaker 3: Yeah uh, but yeah, like I think it would be
really cool to have him come back. But I just
I wonder if this is maybe not the right project
for it. Yeah, I don't know, I just don't know
if I need him in there to round out this
movie at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you make some great points there with
just how dense our characterist is already becoming. I I
could see, Like I think the initial idea that I had.
Speaker 2: From just just.
Speaker 1: Seeing like the rumor is like maybe it being a
tie to the Secret Wars, like like him being a
catalyst that brings us there to like, oh, yeah, I
don't know, like you should see my team join me.
Speaker 2: In Secret War or whatever it might be. But like
that's the more good sided character route.
Speaker 1: And I think my mind just goes there because we've
already seen him play the villain, so of course naturally
it'd be fun to see the other side. But I mean,
what you listen out there with the like Evil Captain America,
Like if he's a part like man that that would
be a pretty fun evil gang also, And then like
he could basically be like the what if like Chichalla
actually never like conquered him afterwards, like kill Monger was
just Black Panther and and like this is the reality
of his universe. So I think that's also a fun idea,
And honestly, I think I like that better because Doom,
I'm expecting I almostaid Doomsday.
Speaker 2: I actually I had to stop myself there.
Speaker 1: But Doom is already such a powerhouse. But I also
am kind of worried that it might feel like just
another Thanos in the sense of, like, this is the
one big bad that all of these heroes are trying
to take down, so of course, if we can have
a little bit more of a team on his side,
it makes it a little bit more interesting. So, especially
like some of the big names that we listed with
with with the Evans and whatever that other yeah, just
dynamic might be whatever the kill Monger thing would be.
Speaker 3: Do you, yeah, what do you think about the possibility
of there just being a whole another multiverse Avengers team
that appears in this movie alongside like the four factions
we already have plus villains.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like with How You Broke it Down, it seems
so unlikely, which just price tags of actors and stuff
like that. Sure, I feel like in my mind I
always had it too of like, Okay, this is gonna
be pretty much the roster that we saw with like
the chairs like that reveal, and then maybe a couple extras,
but like not a full team extras like that, that
just seems like too far of a jump. That's why
I was saying, like, maybe if this is Eric Killmonger's
Black Panther and he is a good guy, instead of
having him and a whole team around him, I think
just having him is like a really big ad to
an already populated list. So then maybe if there is
more that would be leading into Secret Wars, just because
in my mind, that has a thousand character stir with
the potential just appearances that I could have. So yeah,
like if I had to choose, honestly, I probably wouldn't
want the whole Avengers roster just because it would take
us away from, yeah, just the members that are already here,
and it might just feel like because we have too much,
we don't have any like depth with any of those characters.
It's just it seems like they're all side characters. And
I think things like Infinity War Endgame, they actually do
a pretty good job at having time even though it
is such a big roster, like like you know, there's
great Nebula moments, There's there's great Roady moments like in
those little splices of like Okay, it's like Downey's the
one doing the big sacrifice, then Evans and the second movie,
like those are the big heads. But like, I still
think they do a good job at spending time with
the whole roster to make it feel like everyone kinda
is important. And if we just are doubling, like the
team sizes it, just maybe they can pull it off again.
But it just seems like a daunting task and one
that I would be a little bit more I think concerned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just how clean the execution could be?
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think that they maybe, like would the
concept potentially be here almost like the opposite of what
we're having with like okay iron Man and or like
Evans and Downey coming back, we're heroes and now they're
playing villains. Is the idea with this multiverse a Veders
team that it's like the opposite where it's like people
who did play villains come back in this multiverse format
to play like heroes now. So you get b Jordan
as Black Panther. Who else would you get? I guess
you get like Cory Stold come back. He could be
like ant Man yellow Jacket, or like you could be
like a good ant Man Modoc that guy yeah, no,
Modoc he would be he would be like he was
a good guy. He Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Who else would be Hella, honestly I think that, but
like Hella or even just Loki, just like because is
is Tom Hilson on the chairs?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need a guy in the chairs?
Speaker 2: No chair but no, no, I'm not so sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel like we've talked so much about it, it
seems like, oh, he'll definitely be back. But I forget
if he was on that freaking chair because I think
that like, just you know, I guess it would be Loki.
You'd still have him as Loki, but he'd just be
like a good Loki.
Speaker 2: Now that could be interesting. Uh, why is it not
telling me? Yes, yes he is, Yes he is there.
Speaker 3: You go right, So yeah, like maybe that's the way
he's integrated into the movie and that would make a
like I don't know, I just feel like there'd be
a lot of explaining to do, like him leaving his
like multiversal throne and like coming to join this but like, yeah,
maybe that's just what it is. Maybe it's just like
some alternate timeline version of Loki and that's who he's playing.
There and I don't know who else you'd throw in there.
But obviously there's like, as you mentioned, like there's a
million people that you could bring back. You could do
something goofy, like get a Terrence Howard back as like
you know, he could make a war machine on this
Avengers team.
Speaker 2: Like there's so many ways he could do it. But
I think it would be.
Speaker 3: Fun if you got like a little crew of people
who played villains before and said have them play not
necessarily the same like Killmonger to Black Panther transition, but
even just like they played a villain and now they're
playing like a good version of the character, or like
I don't know, I guess good enough to be on
an Avengers team.
Speaker 2: I suppose I.
Speaker 1: Want to see the good Jebediah staying, you know, get
Jeff Bridges in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think like he'd be the new iron
Man in this in this time?
Speaker 1: I mean that's really fun because yeah, I mean we're
we're gonna talk. That was in the notes of like
who else would you would you want to be throwing
on there? And my mind instantly just went to villains,
like just villains that were like one offs or I
mean someone that's kind of in limbo, like they are
still around. Is like Baron Baron, uh not Baron, Like yeah,
Baron's emo there.
Speaker 3: He's just pounding around.
Speaker 2: Who knows where he is? And I want more of
them because I just I really like but.
Speaker 3: He but he wouldn't really be you think he'd be
come back as like a multiversal version and like rather
than like the one that who's in six one six
But it's just am I it's.
Speaker 1: More likely I think the six one sixth one, but
like in my mind, like fuck yeah, let's get a
different one just to just.
Speaker 3: Bring him back and like have him like do like
the full Zmo look rather than like the kind of
just human that he's looked like in the things he's
been in this universe.
Speaker 2: You get it.
Speaker 1: It's like how you know, in the Ultimate Spider Man
they have like Ultimate Goblin who's just like a hulk
like like Bean, it's just like a creature, Like let's
get weird with it. I think it's as we go
down that, like Root, it's like a it's like a
pie chart where it's just like gets more and more unlikely.
I think the crazier that we go with that. But
it's it's still fun.
Speaker 3: But you know what we could do that would immediately
when you a pizza bet would be to bring Red
Hulk back. But he is just like the good Hulk
on the on the Avengers, this multiverse Avengers team.
Speaker 2: Do you get Harrison Ford in there on this big adventure?
Speaker 3: I mean you get CGI Harrison Ford, and you know,
you pay him some amount, but maybe less than him
having actually like you know, show up, maybe getting it
for him. You get Troy Baker to pretend he's Harrison
Ford again. I mean, yeah, that's that's also fun.
Speaker 1: But yeah, as I was saying, like, the first one
that came to mind was Hella, I think it's pretty
unlikely just because it's a god to your character, but
I mean, we have gods in this universe, and I.
Speaker 3: Mean she could be weaker in this universe. I guess,
like I forget where her power comes from. It doesn't
really come from a weapon necessarily, right, Like she just
kind of has innate power. Yeah, could depower her, I suppose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's like going to the power of the
dark side, right, it's stronger.
Speaker 3: But uh, Scarlet Witch as well, you know, like who
knows it where she is if she's still burden that rubble,
but like you know, just bring her in as a
multiverse version and have her be part of the Avengers.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 3: I'm down for that.
Speaker 1: I personally think that's the most likely route because I
think we will see Scarlett witchigan. But I I don't
know why. I'm just in this pizza bet round, but
I'm like tant to do a pizza bet that like
that actually she actually did die like in that, like
that is the Canyon version and the next time.
Speaker 2: We see her is a different variant.
Speaker 3: But I mean that could be true, but that could
also that doesn't necessarily confirm that she's full on dead.
She could still come back as.
Speaker 1: Her actual yeah yeah, And then I feel like you
need like a time frame on that type of death,
Like do they actually confirm is there a character that
says that, yeah, well, somehow Scarlet Witch came back even
though she got legitimately murdered. We bear her body or
I mean her body to get uried.
Speaker 3: What do you think the odds are that they would
have another Spider Man on that Avengers team.
Speaker 2: Like another Tom Holland or another.
Speaker 3: Just no, Tom Holand's busy. We know that he's not
in this movie unless or.
Speaker 2: Like like, like, what do you mean those Spiderman, like
just if.
Speaker 3: Robe Garfield or or someone else, Miles Morale the cage
as Spider Man or something, just any Spider Man, any
different Spider Man. Yeah, just like would they would they
have a Spider Man on that roster.
Speaker 1: My initial instincts say hard no, like f no, like
there's absolutely no way that's that's happening.
Speaker 2: But I mean that would get the crowd going.
Speaker 1: Honestly, there's a Spider character that comes in, even if
it's like it could come in just in the suit
and then it's it's a Spidy being like his spidy
quirky just voice and like you wouldn't really think anything
differently and the mask comes off for something completely different character.
I think that would get a lot of crazy theater reaction.
So it is a fun thought. So I feel like
my heart is like trying to itch me over to
like the more middle ground, But no, I'm gonna I'm
gonna stick to my head and say hard.
Speaker 2: No on on the doomsday.
Speaker 1: I think you're probably right, yeah, but I'd probably stand
up and cheer if it actually happened, and I will
instantly be thinking of you and how you predicted that.
Speaker 3: You're gonna stand up and block someone's view in the theater.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna turn around be like my friend Dylan
told me about that.
Speaker 3: I just want a pizza.
Speaker 2: I owe him a pizza. No, that's a fun one. Yeah, jeez,
who else hobgoblin? Ned? Are we gonna get that?
Speaker 3: The gob definitely not ned? But yeah, give me a
goblin for sure. Actually, do I want a good goblin?
I think I just want evil goblins, you know, yeah,
I mean it's could be like an Evil Avengers team
who knows, you know?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely? Uh different vision.
Speaker 3: We already have two visions and that's far too many.
Speaker 2: We get like just Orange vision or I guess you
kind of was Orange vision.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get like ice forests he just cast vision, Yeah,
Desert vision.
Speaker 2: The one vision. Yeah no, I yeah, I don't like that.
The more we talked about it, like visionally, Yeah, they
don't even know what they're doing with vision mm hmm.
Any Evil Guardians or anything like that.
Speaker 3: On an Avengers team evil no Evil Rock No, Yeah, no,
I don't know. I think the wrong that would be
a team. I think, Yeah, four characters maximum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, does that mean they're like really strong though, because
then like the Power Divide, it's not like spread over
like eighteen characters, just like four Me and Mama jabas
ready the Necks.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I guess there's already kind of an
imbalance between some of the teams that we have, like
Fantastic Fours coming to this as their own little faction,
and there they only have four people, that's true, and
one of them is a rock, So I mean they're
pretty weak compared to some of the other between.
Speaker 2: Club room time though, m.
Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, I have.
Speaker 1: Nothing more to throw at this the fun ideas, I mean,
getting back to Michael B. Jordan, Yeah, I I hope
that is something that evolves into it being true. I
think that's just is a performance that deserves to have
another go, not in the sense of like redoing what
they did or like carrying on that story, but just
like having like a new version of that character.
Speaker 2: I think is super super fun.
Speaker 1: So hopefully this comes out cool. Well, I kind of
forgot to take our first at break, so we're gonna
go to that right now.
Speaker 2: Okay,