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Speaker 1: Main topic of the day, and the first main topic

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of the day is a rumor, but it's it's a

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fun rumor to talk about.

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Speaker 2: We got our boy Michael B.

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Speaker 1: Jordan speculatively returning in Avengers Doomsday.

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Speaker 2: That's the first one I said, returning.

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Speaker 1: But I guess it is possible that well probably likely,

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that it isn't the one that we knew and and

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grew fun. He's long gone, yeah, exactly, but resurrections happen, right,

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LOOKI came back, he died.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he came back, and BP two has like

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a soul in the shadow realm or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I completely forgot about that. It's what a while since

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ever you watched that movie. But yeah, I mean, I

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I'll just kind of go first.

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Speaker 1: But Michael Jordan, I'm a big fan of his and

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I think he's just fantastic, So I definitely wouldn't be

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deterred by the news by any means. It's a seat

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her Scooper, so of course it can go either way,

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but I think that would definitely boost the hype overall,

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just having him a part of it, I think, especially

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just people that loved him in that first Black Panther movie,

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like I think that would be a big draw because

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a lot of non MCU fans I think just really

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love that movie, and I think that would just yeah,

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just just especially coming off centers, Like people are just

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pretty hyped on Michael B.

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Speaker 2: Jordan.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they're fans of him, they'll be fans

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of him. But I think he just he's got really

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good range of a character and or sorry of an actor,

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and I think he can bring that character in different directions,

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like it doesn't just have to be the kill Monger

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that we saw.

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Speaker 2: I think the rumor also.

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Speaker 1: Something about like him being the Black Panther kind of

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like this version of it, So that would be also

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a fun avenue to explore. But yeah, what do you

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think about this news?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess the idea here with this rumor is

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that he would be featured in like an alternate or

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like a multiverse Avengers team that would be in the movie.

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So I guess that's my biggest question mark is like, goddamn,

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isn't this movie already jam packed enough? Like we have

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our current Avengers, which we kind of need to establish,

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like we we you know, saw names on chairs, but

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we haven't even seen them, like interact with each other.

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We have the New Avengers slash the Thunderbolts, we have

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F four, we have who else.

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Speaker 2: We have like a whole squad of.

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Speaker 3: X Men people in there as well, So it's like,

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I don't do we also shove and then we have

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like villains in dooms like Doom and whatever. His posse

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is looking like if he's got multiple people with him.

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So it's like, I don't know, do we squeeze a

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whole other multiverse Avengers.

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Speaker 2: Team in there?

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Speaker 3: And like are they meaningfully in there or they just

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like a quick cameo or they just like die off

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for some reason. Like I don't know what's going on there,

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But I feel like if you're gonna bring him back

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and give him that position, like do Black Panther for

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a movie, I feel like I would want that to

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be maybe another project where you can actually like really

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chew on it. But I just feel like this is

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like a such a jam packed movie that I don't

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really know how like throwing a whole other team in

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there is gonna work very well.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like this is already so dense, So

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I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But like other than that, I don't really know what

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the context would be of him like being in this

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you know. One of the things we've talked about before

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is that seemed like, Okay, well, obviously if down he's

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coming back and he's was Ironman, but now he's dooms

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Day or he is now he's Doom, Like he's fucking

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doing that. And then we have Chris Evans maybe coming

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back and he you know, was Captain America now he's

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Captain Hydro or whatever the heck's going on there. I

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kind of feel like Michael, but Jordan could like fit

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right in that realm of But then it's like, well,

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are you doing like an evil Black Panther as part

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of the team or would he be coming back as

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Killmonger and like be part of this villain team because

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that could be cool? Uh, and that could be interesting

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and fun. But yeah, I think I'm he's great, He's outstanding.

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you know, being Black Panther, I guess.

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Speaker 2: A little bit when he took the throne.

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Speaker 3: Yeah uh, but yeah, like I think it would be

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really cool to have him come back. But I just

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I wonder if this is maybe not the right project

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for it. Yeah, I don't know, I just don't know

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if I need him in there to round out this

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movie at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you make some great points there with

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just how dense our characterist is already becoming. I I

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could see, Like I think the initial idea that I had.

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Speaker 2: From just just.

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Speaker 1: Seeing like the rumor is like maybe it being a

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tie to the Secret Wars, like like him being a

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catalyst that brings us there to like, oh, yeah, I

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don't know, like you should see my team join me.

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Speaker 2: In Secret War or whatever it might be. But like

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that's the more good sided character route.

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Speaker 1: And I think my mind just goes there because we've

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already seen him play the villain, so of course naturally

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it'd be fun to see the other side. But I mean,

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what you listen out there with the like Evil Captain America,

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be a pretty fun evil gang also, And then like

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he could basically be like the what if like Chichalla

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actually never like conquered him afterwards, like kill Monger was

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just Black Panther and and like this is the reality

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of his universe. So I think that's also a fun idea,

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And honestly, I think I like that better because Doom,

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I'm expecting I almostaid Doomsday.

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Speaker 2: I actually I had to stop myself there.

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Speaker 1: But Doom is already such a powerhouse. But I also

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am kind of worried that it might feel like just

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another Thanos in the sense of, like, this is the

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one big bad that all of these heroes are trying

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to take down, so of course, if we can have

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a little bit more of a team on his side,

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it makes it a little bit more interesting. So, especially

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like some of the big names that we listed with

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with with the Evans and whatever that other yeah, just

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dynamic might be whatever the kill Monger thing would be.

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Speaker 3: Do you, yeah, what do you think about the possibility

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of there just being a whole another multiverse Avengers team

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that appears in this movie alongside like the four factions

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we already have plus villains.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like with How You Broke it Down, it seems

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so unlikely, which just price tags of actors and stuff

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like that. Sure, I feel like in my mind I

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always had it too of like, Okay, this is gonna

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be pretty much the roster that we saw with like

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the chairs like that reveal, and then maybe a couple extras,

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but like not a full team extras like that, that

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just seems like too far of a jump. That's why

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Black Panther and he is a good guy, instead of

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having him and a whole team around him, I think

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just having him is like a really big ad to

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an already populated list. So then maybe if there is

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more that would be leading into Secret Wars, just because

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in my mind, that has a thousand character stir with

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the potential just appearances that I could have. So yeah,

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like if I had to choose, honestly, I probably wouldn't

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want the whole Avengers roster just because it would take

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us away from, yeah, just the members that are already here,

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and it might just feel like because we have too much,

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we don't have any like depth with any of those characters.

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It's just it seems like they're all side characters. And

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a pretty good job at having time even though it

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is such a big roster, like like you know, there's

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great Nebula moments, There's there's great Roady moments like in

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those little splices of like Okay, it's like Downey's the

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one doing the big sacrifice, then Evans and the second movie,

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like those are the big heads. But like, I still

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think they do a good job at spending time with

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the whole roster to make it feel like everyone kinda

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is important. And if we just are doubling, like the

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team sizes it, just maybe they can pull it off again.

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But it just seems like a daunting task and one

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that I would be a little bit more I think concerned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but just how clean the execution could be?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think that they maybe, like would the

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concept potentially be here almost like the opposite of what

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we're having with like okay iron Man and or like

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Evans and Downey coming back, we're heroes and now they're

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playing villains. Is the idea with this multiverse a Veders

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team that it's like the opposite where it's like people

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who did play villains come back in this multiverse format

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to play like heroes now. So you get b Jordan

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as Black Panther. Who else would you get? I guess

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like ant Man yellow Jacket, or like you could be

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like a good ant Man Modoc that guy yeah, no,

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Modoc he would be he would be like he was

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a good guy. He Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Who else would be Hella, honestly I think that, but

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like Hella or even just Loki, just like because is

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is Tom Hilson on the chairs?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we need a guy in the chairs?

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Speaker 2: No chair but no, no, I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel like we've talked so much about it, it

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seems like, oh, he'll definitely be back. But I forget

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if he was on that freaking chair because I think

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that like, just you know, I guess it would be Loki.

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like a good Loki.

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Speaker 2: Now that could be interesting. Uh, why is it not

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telling me? Yes, yes he is, Yes he is there.

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Speaker 3: You go right, So yeah, like maybe that's the way

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he's integrated into the movie and that would make a

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like I don't know, I just feel like there'd be

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a lot of explaining to do, like him leaving his

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like multiversal throne and like coming to join this but like, yeah,

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maybe that's just what it is. Maybe it's just like

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some alternate timeline version of Loki and that's who he's playing.

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million people that you could bring back. You could do

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something goofy, like get a Terrence Howard back as like

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you know, he could make a war machine on this

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Speaker 2: Like there's so many ways he could do it. But

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Speaker 3: Fun if you got like a little crew of people

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who played villains before and said have them play not

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even just like they played a villain and now they're

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playing like a good version of the character, or like

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I don't know, I guess good enough to be on

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an Avengers team.

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Speaker 2: I suppose I.

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Speaker 1: Want to see the good Jebediah staying, you know, get

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Jeff Bridges in there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think like he'd be the new iron

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Speaker 1: I mean that's really fun because yeah, I mean we're

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we're gonna talk. That was in the notes of like

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on there? And my mind instantly just went to villains,

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like just villains that were like one offs or I

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mean someone that's kind of in limbo, like they are

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still around. Is like Baron Baron, uh not Baron, Like yeah,

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Speaker 3: He's just pounding around.

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Speaker 2: Who knows where he is? And I want more of

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them because I just I really like but.

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Speaker 3: He but he wouldn't really be you think he'd be

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come back as like a multiversal version and like rather

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Speaker 1: More likely I think the six one sixth one, but

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like in my mind, like fuck yeah, let's get a

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different one just to just.

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Speaker 3: Bring him back and like have him like do like

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the full Zmo look rather than like the kind of

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just human that he's looked like in the things he's

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been in this universe.

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Speaker 2: You get it.

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Speaker 1: It's like how you know, in the Ultimate Spider Man

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they have like Ultimate Goblin who's just like a hulk

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like like Bean, it's just like a creature, Like let's

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get weird with it. I think it's as we go

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down that, like Root, it's like a it's like a

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pie chart where it's just like gets more and more unlikely.

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I think the crazier that we go with that. But

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it's it's still fun.

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Speaker 3: But you know what we could do that would immediately

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when you a pizza bet would be to bring Red

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Hulk back. But he is just like the good Hulk

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on the on the Avengers, this multiverse Avengers team.

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Speaker 2: Do you get Harrison Ford in there on this big adventure?

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Speaker 3: I mean you get CGI Harrison Ford, and you know,

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you pay him some amount, but maybe less than him

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having actually like you know, show up, maybe getting it

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for him. You get Troy Baker to pretend he's Harrison

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Ford again. I mean, yeah, that's that's also fun.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, as I was saying, like, the first one

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that came to mind was Hella, I think it's pretty

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unlikely just because it's a god to your character, but

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I mean, we have gods in this universe, and I.

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Speaker 3: Mean she could be weaker in this universe. I guess,

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like I forget where her power comes from. It doesn't

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really come from a weapon necessarily, right, Like she just

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kind of has innate power. Yeah, could depower her, I suppose.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's like going to the power of the

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dark side, right, it's stronger.

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Speaker 3: But uh, Scarlet Witch as well, you know, like who

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knows it where she is if she's still burden that rubble,

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but like you know, just bring her in as a

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multiverse version and have her be part of the Avengers.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 3: I'm down for that.

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Speaker 1: I personally think that's the most likely route because I

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think we will see Scarlett witchigan. But I I don't

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know why. I'm just in this pizza bet round, but

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I'm like tant to do a pizza bet that like

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that actually she actually did die like in that, like

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that is the Canyon version and the next time.

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Speaker 2: We see her is a different variant.

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Speaker 3: But I mean that could be true, but that could

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also that doesn't necessarily confirm that she's full on dead.

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She could still come back as.

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Speaker 1: Her actual yeah yeah, And then I feel like you

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need like a time frame on that type of death,

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Like do they actually confirm is there a character that

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says that, yeah, well, somehow Scarlet Witch came back even

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though she got legitimately murdered. We bear her body or

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I mean her body to get uried.

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Speaker 3: What do you think the odds are that they would

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have another Spider Man on that Avengers team.

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Speaker 2: Like another Tom Holland or another.

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Speaker 3: Just no, Tom Holand's busy. We know that he's not

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in this movie unless or.

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Speaker 2: Like like, like, what do you mean those Spiderman, like

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just if.

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Speaker 3: Robe Garfield or or someone else, Miles Morale the cage

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as Spider Man or something, just any Spider Man, any

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different Spider Man. Yeah, just like would they would they

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have a Spider Man on that roster.

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Speaker 1: My initial instincts say hard no, like f no, like

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there's absolutely no way that's that's happening.

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Speaker 2: But I mean that would get the crowd going.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, there's a Spider character that comes in, even if

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it's like it could come in just in the suit

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and then it's it's a Spidy being like his spidy

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quirky just voice and like you wouldn't really think anything

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differently and the mask comes off for something completely different character.

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I think that would get a lot of crazy theater reaction.

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So it is a fun thought. So I feel like

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my heart is like trying to itch me over to

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like the more middle ground, But no, I'm gonna I'm

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gonna stick to my head and say hard.

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Speaker 2: No on on the doomsday.

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Speaker 1: I think you're probably right, yeah, but I'd probably stand

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up and cheer if it actually happened, and I will

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instantly be thinking of you and how you predicted that.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna stand up and block someone's view in the theater.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna turn around be like my friend Dylan

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told me about that.

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Speaker 3: I just want a pizza.

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Speaker 2: I owe him a pizza. No, that's a fun one. Yeah, jeez,

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who else hobgoblin? Ned? Are we gonna get that?

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Speaker 3: The gob definitely not ned? But yeah, give me a

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goblin for sure. Actually, do I want a good goblin?

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I think I just want evil goblins, you know, yeah,

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I mean it's could be like an Evil Avengers team

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who knows, you know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely? Uh different vision.

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Speaker 3: We already have two visions and that's far too many.

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Speaker 2: We get like just Orange vision or I guess you

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kind of was Orange vision.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you get like ice forests he just cast vision, Yeah,

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Desert vision.

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Speaker 2: The one vision. Yeah no, I yeah, I don't like that.

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The more we talked about it, like visionally, Yeah, they

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don't even know what they're doing with vision mm hmm.

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Any Evil Guardians or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: On an Avengers team evil no Evil Rock No, Yeah, no,

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I don't know. I think the wrong that would be

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a team. I think, Yeah, four characters maximum.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, does that mean they're like really strong though, because

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then like the Power Divide, it's not like spread over

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like eighteen characters, just like four Me and Mama jabas

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ready the Necks.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, I guess there's already kind of an

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imbalance between some of the teams that we have, like

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Fantastic Fours coming to this as their own little faction,

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and there they only have four people, that's true, and

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one of them is a rock, So I mean they're

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pretty weak compared to some of the other between.

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Speaker 2: Club room time though, m.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, I have.

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Speaker 1: Nothing more to throw at this the fun ideas, I mean,

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getting back to Michael B. Jordan, Yeah, I I hope

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that is something that evolves into it being true. I

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think that's just is a performance that deserves to have

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another go, not in the sense of like redoing what

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they did or like carrying on that story, but just

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like having like a new version of that character.

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Speaker 2: I think is super super fun.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully this comes out cool. Well, I kind of

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forgot to take our first at break, so we're gonna

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go to that right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay,