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Speaker 3: Right, welcome back in our number three of O TB. See,
we didn't forget this week. We knew that it was Tuesday.
We knew it was nine o'clock, and we knew our
guy Nick Underhill New one Football he's gonna be waiting
by the phone.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we called him on time this week. That
was on us last week. Nice.
Speaker 3: But you know what you gotta do. You gotta watch
it tape, get a film study, you do. And so
we're back like we never left. Nicholas, How are we doing, sir?
Speaker 4: Doing great? Doing great? How you guys doing.
Speaker 2: We're doing good. We're doing good. Tough week, tough week
for the Saints.
Speaker 3: You know, there's been a lot of a lot of
glee here on the show with Lane Kevin coming to town.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know mentioned the Saints yesterday.
Speaker 5: We did.
Speaker 2: We talked about it for a little bit there.
Speaker 3: Uh, in a game like that, and I know there's
half the fan base that probably wants a better draft choice,
and I completely understand that. But in a game that
tried to give itself to you like six different times,
and you couldn't take advantage of any of the six.
Man as a former player, and somebody knows how hard
it is to win in the NFL, that was tough
to watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's an idiot that talks about him on
the radio. I mean they put the plays on tape
and you can imagine him getting caught and hey, look,
Kyler shuck made the game win and throw, but they
didn't plait it and make up their draft position. So
now I can go watch ours can imagine that picture
how he might fit in on the defense of Jordan's tyson.
And you know it's not all bad. I mean, you
got to get that catch. I mean that's kind of
concerning that. That's two of them. Now, a lot of
a uh Patriots in this one where he could have
made a game winning catch and you know it just
didn't didn't work out. What a better play but I
mean that that's what he's you know, campaigning for and
if you want to be a classic guy, you got
to catch some balls. Like it's just kind of is
what it is. I mean, I think I'm kind of
encouraged by by Chuck. I mean, I think there's definitely
still ways that, uh, you know, it could go bad.
I think you see the ceiling, you know, go up
a little bit though within there's definitely some plays but
like leaving the clean pockets that it's kind of a
kind of starting to become an issue for me. You know,
the interception was bad, the pick too. I think Byle
kind of you know, gave up that route a little bit,
but also a better bucket of what did that? You know,
So there's definitely room room for growth. I think he
plays and plays his way into pressure and into some
stacks and you know, only stuff that's got to get better.
But I don't know, I mean, I ended up finding
that to be kind of like a compelling game. You know.
I thought the first off was probably as bad as
we've seen like at all this season, all the way
across the board, But I ended up turning around a
little bit, and you know, I think I remain encouraged.
I am, but he's gonna you know, really, he's gonna
have to play his way. You know, he could play
the same side of the conversation of looking at these
quarterbacks and do it like you gotta beat probably the
Jets and the Titans. I think if you can't beat
the Jets and the Titans, maybe you don't have an
answer there and you should be listening. So it's kind
of it's kind of like a problem that solves himself,
I think. But on the other topic, man like line Kiffin,
like that's awesome. Like having the villain like be the
head coach. It's just like the greatest thing ever. And
you know, I've always been interested in them, but like
just kind of seeing the reaction and everything, and look,
I think it like totally sucks for Ole miss and
those those kids and all that stuff like so so
I definitely feel bad for them. But like having the
bad guy like you know, and you know, it's kind
of like the tem Payton thing, like Okay, cool, you
don't like him doing the skall clop like you know whatever,
you know, f you like that, that's that's that's the
guy here. Like it's great so yeah, man, I'm I'm
it's compelling. Uh Like yeah, I just like I'm locked in.
I'm like following the recruiting like it's it's just awesome.
It's a it's a it's a it's a cool thing
to this state, like to have some football excitement with
one of the two big teams.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I know you're locked into so much NFL
and and the Saints obviously, I know you don't get
a chance to kind of like dive into college that
much or ls you that much, but like it's been unavoidable, right,
says whole length given the saga has been amazing. So
I mean you just kind of gave us your thoughts,
but like how much have you been able to kind
of follow and like what's intrigued to you the most
about this whole coaching hire for issue?
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, no, yeah, I got I got
I got one hundred h TV and two sixties on
the wall. I got three college games out every Saturday.
I record every single one. I've spending a lot of
my week watching them, you know, especially even more this
year just kind of like with where the Saints are
probably headed. You know, some some years like when they're
doing good, Like you kind of fall behind on it, don't,
you know, put as much in, but like top ten, pick,
top five, pick, Like I feel like I have a
responsibility to know everything. Saturdays, I've been going to college games.
I just had the biggest busted all time at Arizona
State with Jordan Tyson getting part in the second quarter
and not being able to watch him. We're not going
to just kind of put eyes on him. But look,
the coaching search is like it's just like the whole
thing is amazing to me, Like it just kind of
seeing how it played out and all that, and I think,
look like this is a team where people can say
whatever the collectors and all stuff, but like that, there's
two or three jobs that I think are the absolute
peaking them out. And then you know, I'm not revealing
any like fresh spots here like Texas, Georgia, like uh,
you know, there's a couple of teams where it's like
they're right there. And then I think Alice, she's like
the very next one. And when you can go out
and you can get a guy from Notre Dame and
you can get the guy from almost like I don't
blame Lane Kiffin. And here's like the thing that I
think like six like obviously, yes, when you're fifty years old,
like there's decisions you have to make where there's a
cost to it and you don't get to, you know,
have your cake and eat it. Like that's just kind
of part of being an adult. You got to make
these tough decisions. And he made one in the consquences
he doesn't get to coach shot this eleven in one season,
and I'm sure that's very painful for him. I'm sure
it's way more painful for the people you left behind.
But with the way this this, this this schedule setup,
like it makes no stetch and everyone's like, well just wait,
it's going to open in the future. Well, like, guess
what if Lsh's gonna want you, or Alabama's gonna want you,
or Texas is gonna want you, or George's gonna want you,
Like you have to be having a good season, and
that means you're probably in the playoff, which means to
ever move up, you have to abandon a team or
you're choosing to be stuck at this place forever. And look,
you he can win all mess Like that's that's done.
The dumbest conversation is like can you do this, Well,
he's doing it right now, but can you do it
as consistently? Like no, Like, go look at their recruiting classes.
They were like thirty fourths first year, then like seventeen fifteen, fifteen,
fifteenth or something like that over the swing years. And
then you go look at the same list and the
very first name on top of the entree rankings. When
LSU doesn't have a coach, the kids committed to Dallas. Shoot,
that's the difference. Like people commit to the institution even
more so than the coach. But then you put the
two together and it's gasoline on the fire. And I
mean like if you're if you're a coach and you
have aspirations, like obviously like the do the jobs you
dream about like they are the signature one and to
get there, you got to do it. But guess what,
Like at the end of this thing, we've seen how
he's left every place. He's gonna leave him probably the
worst possible fashion to go coach in the NFL or
something else. And LSU's gonna be in the playoff, he's
gonna stop mariting the season and you're gonna have the
same reaction here. But like you know what, man, like
if you make a deal with the devil, you got
to be comfortable with a little bit of heat. Hot
is how in Louisiana, so like until until then, like
it is what it is, So like we know how
to deal with it down here, and you know, just
enjoy their rides. Well a lost did.
Speaker 3: That is such a good way to say it, like
because we do, like in Louisiana, we do know how
to deal with it. Like, it's just different down here.
And I think we all understand that. And if in
four or five years, if it does go that way,
but you got a championship, we'll tip our cap to you.
We'll be like, all right, appreciate that. And you know
you got to move on and go find thinks it's
been different though, We'll go get the next Yeah, because
like Nick, you know this covering the Saints, Like people
in Louisiana, what do they want as much as almost anything,
they want to be good in football, whatever that looks like.
Speaker 4: And like look, Sean Payton kind of left in the
same same fast and I mean, like I don't think
that gets talked about it enough that Miami literally lost
a first round pick because they were camper him with
the Saints coach and then like, you know, he kind
of he kind of just dipped and and you know,
I think people kind of not to deal with that
too obviously, Like there's her feelings. Didn't look at blatant leaves,
Like I expect the fan bases to be like houtti
as hell and it's gonna be nice, but like, yeah,
do you win in the meantime? Who cares like it
just kind of is what it is, and you know
what you're getting into and just have your eyes open
and don't fool yourself that he's your guy, because I
don't think he's anybody's guy. He's just he's a situationship
type person. Like he isn't marrying anyone, like whatever, that's fine.
Who cares like you just enjoy it. Well, last I
think he's the best guy for the job. I think
he's the perfect coach for this era. You know, his
ability to kind of turn himself into like a like
a social media savant and like a wrestling heel and
a great football coach all in one. Like I think
that's the perfect package. Shirt for twenty twenty five. You
know you're on Instagram. He's got thirty five ig stories
posted every single day, Like he just knows how to
keep himself out there and like that stuff is what
matters to the young people like I bring. It's a
cool factor that like you're just not getting anywhere else.
And he also happens to be a really good football
coach too, So I think that knocked it out of
the park here. You know, I think two hires in
a row. It's kind of like a guy that like
people dislike that they're completely different roles, Like Brian Kelly's
like a guy that made you like feel like ah, man,
that's that's the guy. And then like Lane's like yeah,
all right, like like you got the nw O guy here.
Like it's just I think he's like a perfect fit
for for for this place, Like it's kind of the
attitude of of you know, the state, and I think
I think it's a perfect fit, Like I really do.
I'm excited, you know, I'm I can't I can't wait
until they play all this next year. I mean it's
just all of it's gonna be amazing. It makes it
way more compelling, And yeah, I think it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 6: It does bring a lot of new intrigue to that
old old matchup rivalry. I mean, it's it's it's a
really great point because it's l s U fans. Louisiana
fans can handle it because l s U is only
it's like one of the brands in college football. So
if Lane does go that route like he's kind of
done in the past, it's like, Okay, we'll just go
get the next best head coach in the country. Oh,
Miss is a little pissed about, a little sour about
it because they're like, well, we're all Miss, We're probably
not gonna get one of the best coaches out there,
so we just lost our opportunities. So it's just a difference,
and that's one of the like kind of highlights the
difference between the brands and why this decision was made
for Lane, whether it was hard or not, the decision
was made to come to a bigger brand, so LSU
always have a fallback for one of the best coaches
in the country. Let's let's circle us back to the
Saints for a second. Tyler Schuck and de von Vley,
are they the next Dante Culpepper?
Speaker 4: And Randy Moss. It's insane that he played like that.
I can't believe it, Like I'm not like I thought
there was something in there, but I mean, man like,
he was nine to nine I think nine partners, nine touches.
He's snatching everything out of the air, like he's going
up and getting it, playing physical a turnaround, and it's
kind of unbelievable that that player was there the whole time.
I guess, like you end up finding it due to
circumstance and maybe his style of play if it's like
the way Shuck wants to tack to field a little
bit better. But what like what a performance? And if
that's what they're getting out of it, still don't necessarily
like trading for a twenty seven year old second year player,
But I mean the value of that that trade is
self evident and man like, do they ever need that
just to even be able to get the evaluation of
the quarterback? But you got to have some guys that
can catch the ball, and he's doing it, I mean,
what a what a what a drastic narrative change? Like
it's just kind of unbelievable, And yeah, like I really
like the way I like the way he plays. I
like that physical nature, you know, and I like the
way that I think that's one of the things that
that shuck does that's kind of attacks that middle area
of the field that you look at the throw charts
and you know that's that's deep deep red in that
area that that's primarily where he goes. And you know,
I think I think it's just an easier way to
play when you're kind of coloring in that middle of
the field, you know, the fastest but of the end
zones over the middle. So like, I like it. I
like the way he's doing it. And yeah, I mean
I think vle is a potentially a guy. I don't
think he's gonna have nine every week, but like if
he gives you four chesters for forty yards every single week,
like that's a that's a solid get for a four
round pick. So he's uh, he's spenning that around big time.
Speaker 3: Hey, real quick. Last one, Nick, The Carolina Panthers. You've
seen so much of them, obviously them being in the
Saints Division. Actually one of my sons is a Carolina fans,
so I actually watch a lot of the Panthers too.
I've never seen a team be elite against the elite,
average against the average, and bad against bad, like this
Carolina pants.
Speaker 2: They just beat the Rams, they.
Speaker 3: Beat the Packers, Like, how do you explain this Carolina team?
Speaker 4: I don't think you do. I mean, I like, I
don't get it. Like every time I'm like, you know,
watching the scoreboard, like what the hell is going up?
Like this team sucks, Like I don't get it easy,
like and then and then you'll catch like the highlight
and it's like Bryce Young killing it against some teams,
and then like the next week it's like, man, like
that's a that's a terrible take. Their screwed as a franchise.
I don't get it, very very confusing. I do think
their coaches is probably pretty good, Like he has a
solid tracker in Alconahas working with QPS in that so
if they can ever find some consistency, like man, that like,
they could be a really good team. I really like
the receiver team Mac. You know, he's a great example
of people overthinking the draft process, Like page great, all
this stuff's great. A couple of whispers about him not
practicing art out there at Arizona, and all of a sudden,
everyone starts talking to himself, s out of him and
lo and behold, like what do you put on pages? Would?
He's still putting on pape, So I think he's a
good lesson there. But yeah, very computing team. I don't
get them, you know, Like when the Saints played out,
it's like, all, well, shuck just did it against Carolina,
so what Like it's just so weird and they weren't
bad that day. It's not like he played great against
a great team like they we're a bad team that day.
I don't get it. Super confusing.
Speaker 3: All right, there is a guy, Nick Underhill. New Orleans
dot Football is the site. Nobody covers the Saints like
our guy, Nick Underhill.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Brother.
Speaker 4: You guys got to get rid of that Christmas you
can play like some some n w O like like that.
Speaker 3: It was only the opening of the hour. But trust
me when I say, Alandra, she'll crush it. She'll have
some nw theme music and uh hey, we're all in
on l s U being the n w O. All right,
all right, Nick Underhill, New Orleans dot Football.
Speaker 2: Should we get shirts? Hoodies? We had to come up
with like some type of an n w O lane.
Speaker 5: It like the Lane World Order.
Speaker 3: Like that's you know, maybe maybe something we'll come up.
Speaker 2: It is, oh for sure like it plays. But if
we're trying to keep the n W stop, that's not
good brainstorm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do we don't you know, don't throw the
first idea out there and think it's gonna stick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know in l O. Can we just sorry
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Have you gotten there yet? But Elandra was doing the
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Speaker 2: I just did a uh.
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Speaker 3: Actually the Nasty world order you had? What was the
offensive one was it had new world of offense of offense.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I just did a logo and chad GBT.
I don't think.
Speaker 6: I don't know if there's any like you can't fit
a square peg in a round hole here with too
many acronyms, so maybe just go away from the acronym.
I just put in the in the way n w
O logo used to like the L s U. Then
new conference Order? What about that you feeling?
Speaker 5: Wait?
Speaker 7: Why conference? Why new conference order?
Speaker 2: Because we're at the top.
Speaker 3: I actually think like, okay, I see, yeah, but you
were onto something. But I don't think you just do the
L shoe letters in the nWo five and everybody knows
what we're talking about.
Speaker 2: It kind of yeah.
Speaker 8: Maybe so wait so did it already?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Since that sins too, it's all right. I mean
those first shot out of the m hmmm.
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Speaker 2: Hey.
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was talking about trash ranger, I did say land mines.
Speaker 2: It's on me meant landfill. You said land mines. I did. Yep,
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Speaker 2: Land mines? Think about it?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, NCW doesn't make any sense, Daniel.
Speaker 2: I mean it was a I don't know what Flynn's
doing over there.
Speaker 3: When I say n c W, Yeah, you said a
new conference something, yeah or whatever you.
Speaker 6: Conference orders guys, Boom stone him.
Speaker 2: Guys, I'm gonna start.
Speaker 8: Hearing tomatoes around and.
Speaker 5: Just throw them.
Speaker 2: I'm a published author, either of you.
Speaker 7: Whenever y'all make a bad dad joke, I'm gonna just
carry to me.
Speaker 2: Let's don't do that. Let's don't do that. We do
that pretty early and often.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Let's hey, we're also forty, we're dads. He wears a vest.
Speaker 7: It's like sticking your leg out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Like starting to understand.
Speaker 8: Such a great analogy.
Speaker 6: I'd say it was about six years ago or so
when I discovered a vest. Change man never looked back.
I bet Lane wears vests.
Speaker 8: He feels like a vest.
Speaker 2: See him wearing a vest. Yeah, everybody should wear a vesta.
I feel like he did jump into the yoga game pretty.
Speaker 8: Quick, like was already at yoga.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so it was funny I found that out
and I'm like, and I was sitting with Michael Bonnette
yesterday and I was like, wait, we did yoga Lottis too, right.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: It's right because when we first got here, we did
karate on Wednesday nights in the summertime, and then it
changed our last year to yoga Lottis and we used
to do it in the endoor and we did it
for like an hour at least.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And you want to see a bunch of like, uh,
you know, premier athletes who are in really good shape,
struggle and get their asses kicked in a workout, work
some muscles you hadn't worked, and the way you hadn't.
Speaker 2: See some people that you thought should be flexible that aren't.
Speaker 6: Ye see a lot of people sweating, a lot of
a lot of world class athletes sweat popping out of
their foreheads because they're stretching the hammies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's fun. So he's already hit the ground running.
Speaker 3: Actually, Like I enjoyed that from Nick kind of getting
away from the Saints, maybe because the Saints are so
bad and it was refreshing to have.
Speaker 2: Nick's opinion on something else.
Speaker 3: But like we talked about it yesterday, man like, yeah,
you're gonna be hated by everybody. And what was LSU
supposed to do? Not go hire the best head coach?
No Verge Josbury had a job to do. It was
go get the best coach you possibly could. Was there
going to be some things that turned into a little
bit of a messy situation. It was now Ole miss
was never gonna let Lane coach. But Version carries like, yeah, sure,
if you want to go coach, you coach, Like we
just want you to be our head coach. LSU had
to go get the best guy possible. And we're talking
about like who the five best coaches. Well, you weren't
getting Kirby, right, You're not getting Ryan Day, not getting Signetti.
We said, Lane Kiff, it's the top five coach the country.
You're not going to go hire the notre dame guy again.
You just tried that. So in the top five, Lane
Kiffin's in that you go do everything you can to
get Lane Kiffin, So like on My Serious exem show yesterday, like,
oh my gosh, like the messages that I got.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it is what it is.
Speaker 3: And if anybody can block out the outside noise because
they don't care and all they care about is what's
happening within the state, it's LSU and Louisiana fans.
Speaker 6: Yeah, a couple of things yesterday intrigued me. From the
press conference, multiple things intrigued me. But when he was
talking about I don't remember the format or how exactly
the question was stated, but like over all the the
athletic directors that you've spoken to, you know, oh miss Florida,
the unknown fourth maybe it's U c LA.
Speaker 2: I don't know, But from all.
Speaker 6: The conversations you had, what was the messaging from Verge
that stuck out to you?
Speaker 2: At first?
Speaker 6: He kind of joked a little bit about, well, you know,
verges straight to the point.
Speaker 2: He likes to talk.
Speaker 6: He doesn't say a whole lot, but he's straight to
the point, which he liked, and he kind of joked
about that because I'm sure a lot of ads out
there love to hear their own voice. I love to
hear their own opinions, he said, But The thing that
really stuck out to me was Verge saying, it's your
team and we're not going to tell you how to
do your job. I'm paraphrasing here. Of course you're you're
it's your team. You don't have to hear from us.
We're not control you. You go and do your thing.
You be the head coach. You're not gonna hear from
anybody else. And he's like, I like that as a
as a head coach, of course. And that was kind
of the fear I think from LSU. And the messy
is like the two or three weeks of just absolute
s show messiness from LSU and Louisiana with the governor
and all the board and all this stuff, that all
this just outside noise that of course we talked about
a ton on this show because that was news at
the time. All that is like forgotten and it's like
as messy as it. People thought it might be the
fact that Lane said all he had to call with
the governor, he had all these talks and they said,
point blank, it's your team.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna hear from any of us. Go run
it how you want to run it.
Speaker 6: And that's exactly what a head coach wants and if
you're not gonna get that, you're not gonna get one
of the best head coaches. So that was like really
intriguing to me that it's like, you know, Verge, of course,
like Verge is a guy's guy. He's a former player,
he loves LSU and here for decades. He's not one
of these guys. It's just gonna like filibuster himself in
every conversation and have to be the smartest guy in
the room and have to be this and that and
at and you and you know, we all if you're listening,
you know that type of person. Yes, that is not Verge.
Verge said, you are who we want.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: We're gonna do everything we can to make you successful,
to pay you the way we're supposed to pay you,
to make your team successful, whether it's getting guys out
of the transfer port, it was dedicating money to athletes,
to coaches, to resources, whatever you need. And guess what,
you're a guy and we're gonna hire you and we're
gonna let you do your thing. Hey, here's the governor's number,
give them a call. Yeah, simple as that. That's all
you need to know.
Speaker 3: It's such a great point because so many athletic directors
are sitting there and they're trying to sell and sell
and sell.
Speaker 2: We have the academic center, and we have this, and
we have that, and we have Verge's.
Speaker 3: Message the entire time was simple, we're LSU and we're
the best. Yep, we're LSU and that speaks for itself.
And there might be some people that disagree with that,
but no matter who you are, in your heart of hearts,
if you're being true to yourself, you know that's factual.
You know that LSU is a top destination for players,
for coaches, you understand that. It just is what it is.
And that was his message the entire time. I'm gonna
come coaching, bess, Come on, how's it? This is us
your stadum. Yeah, you know what it is. Yeah, you've
seen it, you've heard about it. Resources will do whatever
it takes, you know that.
Speaker 2: And it worked and it worked. Lane Kiffing told us
it worked yesterday.
Speaker 6: We'll see now, we'll see the future will tell us
if it really worked right with the performance they put out.
But you know what a mic drop moment for Verge
and happy for him, Happy for LSU. Happy for LSU
fans and as much of you know, four years with
Brian Kelly or however long it was, I've blacked out.
How Ever, many people saying I just don't know, like
you know, I think I like him. I think he's
is he if he's not really a fit though, well
we're one press conference in and I think everybody can
pretty much agree, Wlane's a fit.
Speaker 2: Whatever that means. Yeah, Lane train.
Speaker 9: Real quick, Watkins, Yeah, transfer, I mean that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still a matt that during the break you
could see the speed there, and there's a couple of
times like I mean, he picks them up and puts
them down. Two star or two star, two sport athlete
here at LSU definitely wasn't a two star.
Speaker 2: They save those for guys like me.
Speaker 3: Uh, and you're gonna have some of that. And I
would have loved to see him in a real offense
that had real routes, in real concepts. I think he's
very talented. But yeah, he has put himself into the
transfer portal. You've had a couple of receivers go in
the transfer portal, receivers never like and it's not disrespectful
to him.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a good player.
Speaker 3: Receivers never a position that I really worry about at LSU,
certainly if they're getting the right coaching and the right offense. Now,
I don't think any receiver in this offense was going
to thrive.
Speaker 2: I just don't.
Speaker 3: There wasn't real contests, there wasn't there wasn't routes that
made sense, there wasn't routes that played off of each other.
But I do think he's going to be a good
player somewhere. But again, receivers just not a position that
I worry about, certainly with Alane Kiffen and Charlie Wiss
coming in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels like, yeah, no one was going to
be successful in this offense. Is our offense was filled
of plays that were change ups. There was no fastball, Yeah,
there was no Like I just I can rely on
this set of plays, this core group of plays. So
but now we don't have to worry about that people.
Speaker 9: Yeah, signing day is tomorrow tomorrow, and there's a few
people that have de committed from Ole Miss, and then
there's that receiver in Lafayette that de committed from Oklahoma.
Speaker 7: Yep, and he's projected to flip to LSU.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was at the building two nights ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Hey, y'll see the picture coming out of Lane.
The first night he was here, he was on the
left side of the recruit take in a picture. Ned
did not backwards l and I'm hoping it never brings
me down. He finger pistoled like a little pu pew.
Maybe just got it wrong. Gotta practice a little bits,
just the regular. If you're gonna do it now, just
do it regular, please, Lane, do not go backward out,
Please don't. I kind of also wish you would troll
b K a little bit more and like take a
sarcastic picture of himself in the toy box, the recruiting
toy box.
Speaker 2: That would make me happy.
Speaker 8: You're saying, yes, ready to do the dance.
Speaker 2: Dance.
Speaker 3: That would be elite trolling. Get on the spinning yes
situation there it opts and do that burn that spinning
thing in the toy box. After you do the video
and the toy box, but after you do the video,
after you do the video, yes, after you troll ob
elit all right, we're looking.
Speaker 2: For a break.
Speaker 3: We'll take it now more Lane Kiffin n LSU when
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Speaker 1: Com from the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off
the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 5: Me oh, I forgot about this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Hey, do you think they're going to do one of
those basketball games lane introductions?
Speaker 2: I hope so, And I hope that's exactly what you
think he's gonna do. Family Family. Oh, you know, you
know he wants.
Speaker 8: I want him to start.
Speaker 9: I mean, I guess he kind of already started trolling
a little bit, but I need him.
Speaker 3: To start, like yeah, I mean typically everybody does that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a normal thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I When Hurd Signetty got the
Indiana job, he went like sports shurets.
Speaker 2: He's like, we're going to beat the hell out of Purdue.
We're going to be the hell out of Northwestern, the
hell out of Michigan.
Speaker 9: That's good, that's a good strategy, and just say that
you're gonna beat everybody.
Speaker 2: It was incredible, and everybody's in Indiana, all right, guy
google him. He's a winner, big energy, I like him big.
What kind of energy, big.
Speaker 8: Big energy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, m hm.
Speaker 6: Can I tell you another thing I was intrigued about yesterday,
please conference as a football nerd has an offensive junkie,
as a guy that loves to watch film and loves
good quality offense and good quality quarterback play and past
protections and route combinations. He did talk on specifics a
little bit, not not really specifics, but overall view of
his offensive scheme, his philosophy, and I really I was
really like locked in and like wanted me to know more.
Speaker 2: I could.
Speaker 6: I could could have asked questions for like an hour
just based on just falling up with that. So he
had talked about his offensive philosophy, and he talked about
how he's different, like his offensive philosophy is different than
all other philosophies. And I would like to, you know, personally,
I'd like to know what those differences are, like terminology,
what's the foundations? But basically, you know, he's got three
football mentors in his life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his dad, of course, money.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if you played against I played
against his defense in the NFL when he was still
at Tampa.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I don't remember if we did. We
probably did. We did play Tampa early on. Yeah, but Moni, Kevin,
Pete Carroll and Nick Saban around those guys a lot
of defensive guys, yeah, mentors of his, and he said,
those are three of some of the greatest defensive minds.
And just over time hearing and talking to those coaches
and hearing the things that they that always gave them
struggles and all gave them, all gave them fits always,
I just decided to develop the offense around those things.
If these are the greatest defensive coaches in football and
these are the things they hate seeing, well I'm assuming
everybody else hates seeing them too. So he's just kind
of molded and this offense which probably started, you know,
either West Coast or number system or spread like whatever.
I don't know how it started, but it's probably been
changed and molded just around all these different philosophies and
you know from you know, and I know you saw
it with a lot of Peyton stuff and I'm sure
Philip stuff. Well I saw it in Green Bay, and
I saw it and the flip side of it in
New England, like I was part of that Green Bell
soy in Green Bay. So long that it started out
with like West Coast offense terminology, but by like my
sixth year, like it was so bastardized at that point,
like the terminology, like having to learn it didn't make
any sense. Memorize a lot of it, Like a lot
of it, you have to memorize it. If you came
in you just didn't understand the foundation. Like I understood
the foundation of everything because I was there when it changed.
Like when I went to New England, it had been
bastardized for like twenty years with Tom Brady, and so
I had to memorize things there I didn't understand because
a lot of like when people create an offense, when
they draw, they draw the blueprint of an offense, things
make sense. Duced to divide double those are those are
three different formations that look the same. It's just different people.
West Trip Trouble, Like everything makes sense and h But
when you start when you play the Panthers, and all
of a sudden, the play that you put in for
the Panthers, it's called you know, Carolina or Panther whatever
it is, it's just like change. So his offense is
just changed and molded over time. But I just sounded
so intriguing that he's stating that his offense isn't like
anybody else's offense. It's his offense and it's been molded
because of those great defensive coach mentors, of his struggling
on different plays, in him using those different plays and
concepts to tailor his offense. And you know, and he
didn't really give the stats. He kind of hinted at
his stats for offense. I think he says, like, I
don't you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't need to go through them, but the pretty good,
pretty good, pretty good stats.
Speaker 2: So it's kind really intriguing.
Speaker 3: My favorite part about what he said there was he's like,
I listened to those guys and they talked about the
things that would give them trouble, and I knew how
good they were. They were some of the best, and
if that gave them trouble, maybe we.
Speaker 2: Should do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we should implement that into our offensive scheme.
He's like, and I took a little bit from Pete Logis,
from my dad, a little bit from coach Saban and
put all that together, and that was his offense gave
the best defensive minds that I know trouble and let's
make an offense centered around these things and then add
as we go, like you're talking about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's you know, there's a lot of coaches, a
lot of egos out there, and I'm sure Lane has
an ego. I'm sure every you're like you have to write.
But there's also coaches that are hard headed and they're like, no,
we're gonna do it my way. We're gonna do my offense,
we're gonna run it this way, and this is why
it will give defensive problems. Instead, Lane said, I don't
just listen to the defensive coaches on what gives them
problems and make my offense based on those concepts and
those philosophies on why it gives gives people trouble. So
I really like I wanted to jump into film room
with him right there and be like, all right, what's
your terminology? What do you what are you reading here?
What is the quarterbacks footwork on this? So yeah, I was,
I was. I was nerd out a little bit at
that point. I would actually just good stuff.
Speaker 3: I would actually like to sit down with him and
watch the current LSU offensive scheme as well.
Speaker 2: I would I would actually I would do. I would.
Speaker 6: I mean, it'd be the same as watching it with me.
But what was that that felt work? That's probably fair,
So that was dumb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think it was a reason why, you know,
USC had great players back in the early two thousands,
incredible players, but also they had Steve Sarkisian, they had
Lane Kiffin, like on the offensive side of the football,
Norm Chow and he was innovative as well. Makes a
lot of sense why they made a lot of plays
with again, great players. So yeah, you Rogie Bush will
make a lot of people, right, Yeah, we.
Speaker 6: Know that if you you know, if you if you
couple really good players with really good coaching, he usually
get a pretty good team.
Speaker 2: You gets something like Alabama and what it's about to
be LSU New World Order. All right, we'll take our
last break of the show. We wolf Packed?
Speaker 3: Do we just said that we're wolf Pack because I've
already said were the wolf Pack beforehand? Yeah, so I
know that the you know, the O G n W O,
but like I don't know, Like I was always a
Razor Ramone fan, and we're already at the Wolfpack, and
so I think that's the way we go. Good we'll
confirmation comforence go all right, more OTB when we come
back off the bench.
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Speaker 3: I did want to read Lane Kiffing today on his
Instagram stories, he posted a little quote, right, little inspirational today.
You're going to let them. You're going to focus on
you and yours. You're not going to get caught up
in what they're doing, thinking or saying. Let them have
their opinions, let them think the worst of you, let
them be who they want to be. You're going to
let them go and let yourself live. And he quotes
and says, let them.
Speaker 2: M, what do you think it has like an underline meaning.
Speaker 6: He is so active on socials, we should do a
segment like every day on the show. It's just like track,
Lane Tracker, Social tracker, just like his stories.
Speaker 2: All that good stuff. They maybe even try to find. Yeah,
I like this, Well.
Speaker 6: Let them that's your shirt too, that's your shirt basically said.
Speaker 2: Basically, that was a fancy way of saying, come.
Speaker 9: At me, Bro, And you're just gonna let them come
at you though, so it just doesn't let them.
Speaker 5: Let them But like l E t.
Speaker 9: A astrophe, he's out here reading Mel Robbins trying to
get through this.
Speaker 2: All right, come at me, Bro. My name is Lane
coach for LS.
Speaker 3: The one thing I'll be paying attention to for the
rest of the day is the Blake Baker.
Speaker 6: We want to have to play celebration again, Yeah this week.
Don't make us play it in vain and again I'm
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don't want any part I don't want any part of them,
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Speaker 2: But yeah, continue on. Sorry, Oh no, I was just
talking about how bad of a coach Blake Baker is. Yeah,
you don't want that.
Speaker 6: You don't want to He doesn't know how to like
connect with players, not players. Guy, he can't dress up
don more sleeves. You don't want that represent your university song?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Poodle Poodle, you.
Speaker 6: Don't I get that. It was Brian Kelly's defense, y'all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want that guy. He's under contract. We'll
you know, we'll deal with it. We'll have to deal
with it over here.
Speaker 8: Came as much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Blake, Blake, Blake like top the bench.