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<v Speaker 1>So before we continue, I need to make an immediate clarification.

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<v Speaker 1>So certain comments, references, or descriptions made during this discussion

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<v Speaker 1>should not be taken as personal identifiers, endorsements, or statements

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<v Speaker 1>of self description by Ryan. His participation in this episode

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<v Speaker 1>is solely for the purpose of discussion and commentary, and

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<v Speaker 1>any characterization beyond that would be inaccurate. We want to clarify,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to clearly understand that before moving forward, and

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<v Speaker 1>again reiterate that Ryan identifies as one hundred percent heterosexual,

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<v Speaker 1>which would mean zero percent homosexual, or any other possibility

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<v Speaker 1>that may be out there we're not aware of. So Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>is that sufficient didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Want us all that energy with that one that left

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<v Speaker 2>a desired lovey?

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<v Speaker 3>You're swing mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>Sales, so it's so creasy lyrics, making everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh so freely the lies they're feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Or do you just cut it off?

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<v Speaker 1>I just I can cut it off whenever I want,

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<v Speaker 1>so I do play a shorter version of the song,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the full length version, and I just cut

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<v Speaker 1>it off whenever. Okay, because I'm in control.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't listen to this show, so I've only heard

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<v Speaker 2>the song once, so it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You and everyone else doesn't listen to this show.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true, That's extremely true.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, ever since Sarah had her baby, she doesn't listen.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're back. We're back. We're talking about god knows what.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we're talking about the John waters Hey Cinema, Queer

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<v Speaker 1>Cinema podcast, Pride Month series with Refall and his husband Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are finishing the Trash trilogy with Ryan Desperate

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<v Speaker 1>Living Desperate Living, which came out.

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<v Speaker 2>What Do Year nineteen seventy seven, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan, this is your choice? Correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And much like how Refall was forced to pick an

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<v Speaker 1>American movie, you were forced to pick a movie that

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<v Speaker 1>made you seem not pretentious because you're like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick an African movie, or I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>pick this movie I've never seen, and it's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, shut up. But uh, anyways, desper Living,

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<v Speaker 1>So Ryan, I had never seen this movie before.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't you take the lead from here?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? When I was buying all of his movies on

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<v Speaker 2>t this was the hardest one to find, So I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, why, I think that's very bizarre because everything

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<v Speaker 2>else is readily available. So I was like, this has

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<v Speaker 2>to be something different. I solely picked this because I

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<v Speaker 2>just love this title so much. I think he's very

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<v Speaker 2>underrated at titling his movies. I think it's a very.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my favorite of the Trash trilogy. This is

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite movie we covered in the series.

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<v Speaker 2>That's shocking to hear because it was my pick. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I think is interesting is, uh, this one, he's

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<v Speaker 2>like we were like the past move all the movies

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<v Speaker 2>he's made, like he's creating like these subsets of Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 2>of like the world he's in, and this one truly

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<v Speaker 2>is like a different world, Like there's a whole different

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<v Speaker 2>order of society. And I just thought, like how he

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<v Speaker 2>made this society up? How fucking insane it is? Who's

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<v Speaker 2>in charge? It was just so funny, so deranged, so insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Any tangent I thought was just I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>really funny. So I was when I first watched all

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<v Speaker 2>the movies, this was the one I was the most like,

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<v Speaker 2>not so much shock value, but it's taking it back

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<v Speaker 2>by by how much I liked. But yeah, what did

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<v Speaker 2>you guys think? Had you guys seen it before too?

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen this one before. I was probably very high

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<v Speaker 5>when I when I watched it, Uh so it was

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<v Speaker 5>nice to watch it sober. This one starts at an eleven,

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<v Speaker 5>like like this whole scene with like mink Stole at

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like two of my favorite parts of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, the opening credits are amazing. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking down at a at a fine dining table

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<v Speaker 1>and they're putting down like china and silverware and everything

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<v Speaker 1>is very fancy and it's clearly like this like elite

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<v Speaker 1>gala event table. And then the meat they end up

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<v Speaker 1>serving is a dead rat and I was just like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also the poster. I think it's a fucking genius

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<v Speaker 2>poster or two for the movie. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>And Migstole is a suburban housewife who is turned up

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen out of ten as far as anxiety and

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<v Speaker 1>husband is coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the movie opens with a husband walking outside of

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<v Speaker 2>this house talking to the doctor, and the doctor's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>she has to go back inside, like this is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to work like this. She can't be outside anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>she's too diressed, And the husband just goes the road

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<v Speaker 2>to mental health is just around the corner. They cut

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<v Speaker 2>to a baseball smashing her window and she just starts

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<v Speaker 2>screaming and I lost it. I just lost it because

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<v Speaker 2>it was just like that's all it took. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to fucking assassinate me. She's going absolutely insane.

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<v Speaker 2>She finds her two young kids having sex with each other,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, and they're very young, and she's freaking out.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just like, oh, well, no, that's not what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>When she walks in the room, they're separated.

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<v Speaker 4>And then she yells seldomides, that's what you're learning in

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<v Speaker 4>a private school.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is very let me let me clarify this

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<v Speaker 1>because this is very important. It's extremely jarring that there's

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<v Speaker 1>like two naked eight year olds because this is again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the seventies.

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<v Speaker 3>What movie is sorry, what movies this? What year? Is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Seventy seven? But there's like two naked eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Year olds playing, But it's depicted as like well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like Blue Lagoon and Brookshields and that whole insanity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as weird for the time. However, it's very

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<v Speaker 1>jarring now it's depicted though, as like, kids are naked

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes and it's not a big deal. They were acting

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<v Speaker 1>very innocently. They're absolutely not having sex. But mink Stole

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<v Speaker 1>is so insane that she overreacts to everything. And when

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<v Speaker 1>she sees two children that are not clothed together, she

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<v Speaker 1>accuses them of raping each other.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was in her same headspace. I guess when

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<v Speaker 2>she opened the door put it that way.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm right right, like Mark and Rafon, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I misread that. So she throws them out.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes in this absolute tirade. Meanwhile, Griselda, their housekeeper,

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<v Speaker 2>is witnessing all this chaos. This poor woman, so she

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<v Speaker 2>is like their housekeeper. She's hearing all this stuff, these

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<v Speaker 2>conflicts between the husband and her, and the husband accuses Griselda,

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<v Speaker 2>accuses and quotes of stealing from their house. He then

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<v Speaker 2>she just grabs her Yes if she was. He opens

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<v Speaker 2>the purse. He's like, here's my savings account with the

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<v Speaker 2>with with like slips. Here is my stuff. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just everything. She's like, okay, you copy, Like what are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to do? Yeah, So he fires her. He

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<v Speaker 2>goes back upstairs, telling Peggy, hey, like you're like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know everything's gonna be okay whatever. He gets frustrated, starts

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<v Speaker 2>yelling at her. Peggy, being a hypochondriac, screams for Giselda

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<v Speaker 2>to come help her. She's saying he's trying to hurt me.

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<v Speaker 2>Griselda stops him. Peggy hits him over the head with something.

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<v Speaker 2>Griselda sits on his face and I believe suffocates him.

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<v Speaker 3>It kills him.

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<v Speaker 1>Griselda is a very morbidly obsed African American woman.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so this iss fine. Scenes of riding somebody of

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<v Speaker 4>their life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, just amazing how she did it. She just took

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<v Speaker 2>control and that happens. So then it becomes a new

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<v Speaker 2>felm in Louise. That's how I was distinct thinking this

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<v Speaker 2>of they're on the run and they come across Morphil,

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<v Speaker 2>this fantasy world.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to explain. I have this brief example. Mink Stahl,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the main character, kind of Peggy Ravel is

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<v Speaker 1>so insane that she answers the phone. She's so just

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<v Speaker 1>like she's a delusional, paranoid, over the top housewife. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>calls her landline and it's the wrong number, and she screams.

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<v Speaker 3>You call the wrong number. How can I you ever return.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thirty seconds, I just lost of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate you and I hate your children.

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<v Speaker 3>And then hangs up.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote, mink Stall deserves an Oscar for this performance,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, I'm not even kidding, but Mortphil is so

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<v Speaker 1>they have to flee because they killed this man, this

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<v Speaker 3>Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you describe Mortphil other than where you would

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<v Speaker 1>like to live?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's maybe it's talk with the translation of the words

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<v Speaker 4>Morteville from French would be the town of the dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, professor, Oh, I'm so European.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll always for whatever welcome. I would say the best.

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<v Speaker 5>The best thing about Mortville is the cops. That's like

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<v Speaker 5>the only reason to go to Mordville. It's been pretty alive.

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<v Speaker 5>But otherwise, like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I don't know, like where you didn't like the

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<v Speaker 2>cop before Mortville? The guy you didn't like the cop

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<v Speaker 2>before Morey, that's.

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<v Speaker 5>True, that's I know. I did not like the cop

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<v Speaker 5>outside of Morville was not he was? Yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 5>that also they hear of Mordville because they're on the run.

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<v Speaker 5>They get pulled over by another creep. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 5>always this creep in the like you know, on the

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<v Speaker 4>And then in exchange, he.

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<v Speaker 5>Tells them about this kind of safe haven where they

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<v Speaker 5>can go, which is Mordville and not get like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the prosecuted there. And Mordeville is like this shanty town

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<v Speaker 5>that has just like all of the like real underbelly

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, they they.

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<v Speaker 5>And they have this police force who are these like

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<v Speaker 5>attractive like men in leather, and it is run it

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<v Speaker 5>is like ruled by the Queen of Mordeville, who has

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<v Speaker 5>like a castle.

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<v Speaker 2>In this place. I love fake of it, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but unapologetic, like how it looks like when people are

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<v Speaker 2>near it, it's tiny, but like then they just do

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<v Speaker 2>it another way it looks huge. I think that's so hilarious. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Queen Karlata is amazing played by Edith Massey in the

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<v Speaker 2>previous movies. I think she's absolutely fucking cooking In this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Queen Carlotta is the woman who marries Eggman and is

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<v Speaker 1>also the woman who thinks her son Getter or nephew

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<v Speaker 1>Gators should be gay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The highlight of well.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, go ahead was that mark. The highlight of this

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<v Speaker 1>movie for me is Liz Renee. So the most beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>woman in this shantytown Mortville is named Muffy Saint Jacques,

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<v Speaker 1>and Muffy is.

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<v Speaker 3>Beautiful. I love Liz Renee.

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<v Speaker 1>I immediately was like, whoa, this is so up my alley.

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<v Speaker 1>Liz Renee was basically a very early on like famous stripper,

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<v Speaker 1>which back in the day, this is unheard of for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to be a famous stripper. She was married seven times,

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<v Speaker 1>including to a famous actor. But I was reading about

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<v Speaker 1>the production of this movie. John Lauters received a copy

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<v Speaker 1>of Liz Renee's autobiography In My Face for the world

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<v Speaker 1>Muffy's Saint Jaques. He offered her only a brief outline

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<v Speaker 3>So she is just.

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<v Speaker 1>Really hot, and I'm a huge fan of Muffy the

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<v Speaker 1>Most Beautiful Girl and Morphil and also her her girlfriend

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<v Speaker 3>The mole was.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposed to be played by Divine, and Divine couldn't be

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<v Speaker 5>Divine is notably not in this and also the copy

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<v Speaker 5>the movie because he like he was addicted to PCP.

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<v Speaker 4>The David Lockery who was in the other two movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, John Waters act was asked why was David Lockery

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<v Speaker 1>then I looked David Lockery up after seeing that, and

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<v Speaker 3>You don't really hear a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of people being addicted and dying from PCP. You hear cocaine,

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<v Speaker 1>crack heroin, you know, all sorts of stuff, but you

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<v Speaker 2>prior that sort of the movies that happened after that,

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<v Speaker 2>future movies, even the ones post Divine. But I really

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<v Speaker 2>liked mole that when Griselda and Peggy are on the run,

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<v Speaker 2>when they first come into war Phil, she's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I need a place to save. This is a sign

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<v Speaker 2>for vacancy. The first place he shows is just dead

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<v Speaker 5>He committed suicide the night before and they haven't removed.

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<v Speaker 2>When she just when she's like, you guys want to

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<v Speaker 2>join me for dinner? Sure, And when they're sitting down,

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, boy, you two are ugly bitches. She's just

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<v Speaker 2>like so, she's so gruesome, and then she's serving them

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<v Speaker 2>a dead animal, which probably, for all we know is

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<v Speaker 2>real based on the prior movies. And that's of course

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<v Speaker 2>where we meet Muffy and explain their dynamic, pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 2>complicated relationship, stabbing her in the hand when she crosses

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<v Speaker 2>her sare's a luck. There's a lot going on there,

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<v Speaker 2>but pretty much from this point, Grizilda and Peggy are

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<v Speaker 2>arrested by the Queen's Police, brought before her, we meet Cuckoo,

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<v Speaker 2>her daughter, the Princess, who wants to marry I love

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<v Speaker 2>this phrase. The Newdest mutant janitor from the Newdest Colony.

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<v Speaker 2>Also in more Phil again it's John Waters. Just total

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<v Speaker 2>Middle Earth here.

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<v Speaker 1>Text I texted you, I said, this is I read,

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<v Speaker 1>so after watching jes for Living, I had to read

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<v Speaker 3>And this is my favorite part.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote Carlotta's rebellious daughter, Princess Cuckoo attempts to elope with

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<v Speaker 1>the nudest garbage collector, but he is killed by Carlotta's

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<v Speaker 2>Love it, love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I would like to add that the moment

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<v Speaker 4>he got he gets shot, or right before he gets shot,

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<v Speaker 4>she says that she had jerked off fourteen times thinking

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<v Speaker 4>about him within the same second.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically yeah, when he's like poetically describing like I saw

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<v Speaker 2>a used Kleenex and thought, if you were ever sick,

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<v Speaker 2>I would take care of you. It's just like all

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<v Speaker 2>like these things. I just everyone, It's just every level

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<v Speaker 2>of it. I also loved they give the backstories for

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<v Speaker 2>how like how people got to Mortville, and the backstories

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<v Speaker 2>for Mole and Muffy are just because like Muffy seems

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<v Speaker 2>because she seems like quote unquote the most normal person

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation. Her backstory, like her husband's a drunk,

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<v Speaker 2>she runs home, her babysitters having a party. Her babysitter

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<v Speaker 2>says they're too high, so they can't find the kid,

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<v Speaker 2>and they find their kid in refrigerator. I love that

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<v Speaker 2>it was a real kid in the refrigerators open up and

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<v Speaker 2>the kid comes out, and then the babysitter comes down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, we have to pay me, Like she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>give a shit that the kid was lost and found,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she just suffocates her in dog food. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's just perfect, and then hurts the husband. And

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<v Speaker 2>then just Moll's backstory of being a wrestler and her

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<v Speaker 2>costume is arasing Rida, Yeah, wrestling Rita, And she destroys

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<v Speaker 2>the blockhead, just beats him to death, knocks his eye

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<v Speaker 2>out of his head with a heel, and they're both

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<v Speaker 2>just struggle the referee.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I love this movie more than Pink Flamingos

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<v Speaker 1>and Female Trouble is because it's just sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>Go Nuts. Go Nuts is John Waters. He makes up

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<v Speaker 1>a whole fictional shanty town with its own monarchy and laws,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the Queen Carlotta Institute's Backwards Day where everybody

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<v Speaker 3>It's just so over the top ridiculous, even more so

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<v Speaker 3>than the other two films.

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<v Speaker 1>Even like the color schemes are insane, but people are

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<v Speaker 1>wearing is insane. Uh, It's just it's like a cartoon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like if you took Female Trouble and made it

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<v Speaker 1>a cartoon, which to me makes it way more palatable

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<v Speaker 1>and fun, which is why it was my favorite one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what's interesting is like it still has like

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<v Speaker 2>when Queen Carlotta makes them execute that guy who's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck you bitch when he comes to her, and like

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<v Speaker 2>she just shoots them, so you're like, oh wow. Like

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<v Speaker 2>she's also like this is why she's in control, because

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<v Speaker 2>she's the same. But then during the parade, when Mole

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<v Speaker 2>is like I just can't not take this opportunity and

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<v Speaker 2>she just throws the mudball at Queen Carlotta, it almost

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like it was real because the way Edith Matthews

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<v Speaker 2>Turner's goes who threw that? And then nothing happens. They

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<v Speaker 2>just cut to the next scene. I always thought it

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<v Speaker 1>It was just terrified, like, oh, that's a bad move

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<v Speaker 1>because if you get caught.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's so it's so so deranged, so very

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<v Speaker 2>heavy movie very much.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is and and actually so I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>caught a lot of flak for this. H Plus, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the title Desperate Living was the name of a

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<v Speaker 1>popular lesbian magazine at the time. So and it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you, ay man to tell a lesbian story?

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<v Speaker 3>So huh I.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to say in my list of fiction

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<v Speaker 1>places to not use the bathroom, mort Phil would be

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<v Speaker 3>Really, there's a like.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bolo glory Hole.

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<v Speaker 1>The boot Gloryhole obviously was the best part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm down for that. But they're the sink when

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<v Speaker 1>you walk in. Like Mark said he was uncomfortable in

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<v Speaker 1>mort Phil, he would be uncomfortable in Mortphill. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is the man who wants to go to Flea Bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>So he also loved Westworld when we talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. But there there there's a giant

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<v Speaker 1>troughed sink to wash your hands, but it's labeled shits,

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<v Speaker 1>so you take shit in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. She goes through so like this is

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<v Speaker 2>after they get arrested and they get I think, overhauled

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<v Speaker 2>by the queen, and Peggy and Griselda are at that

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<v Speaker 2>bar with them, and she has to walk through two

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<v Speaker 2>different hallways at the bathroom. She's assaulted in both hallways

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<v Speaker 2>by different people, like one one hallways super dark and

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<v Speaker 2>someone just comes out and grass there. And then while

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<v Speaker 2>she's in the bathroom, that woman the pink will not

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<v Speaker 2>let her go. I love that. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like I just will not stay away from her.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have realized this beforehand because I never really

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<v Speaker 1>thought of it. But this is like, this is John

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<v Speaker 1>Waters Alice in Wonderland, right, I mean, it's a completely

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<v Speaker 1>fantastical world where there's the crazy queen who's like off

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<v Speaker 1>of their heads.

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<v Speaker 4>True.

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely never thought of that until just now when

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about how fantastical this is, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why it worked for me. But I thought this was

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<v Speaker 1>just really fun, and I wanted to mention a couple things.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you a question, because we're so

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<v Speaker 1>accepting of lifestyles in twenty twenty six, are people less horny?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I mentioned that like develout Mormons are secretly addicted

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's so forbidden. But if like, let's say you're

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<v Speaker 3>really into.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you're really into what's something that would be weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you're really into covering somebody in play dough

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<v Speaker 1>during sex, and that's so weird you would never tell

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<v Speaker 1>a soul and it becomes this like kinky, niche thing,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your secret. But if we're so accepting in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six and it's like, yeah, you're into plato sex cool,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a Facebook group about it? Does it are people like, Nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not you know, all right, Like that's not as cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in as into that anymore. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>my little secret, you know. Does that make any sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I feel like you're hiding it. It's more there's

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<v Speaker 2>more energy to it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark and for Fall are noticeably silent.

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<v Speaker 4>Silence of agreements. Uh. Also the because I think it

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<v Speaker 4>also response to the idea of the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 4>relationship where everything is kind of a certain degree, you know, secretive,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it's just so exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Refall, have you ever watched mad of your Watch? Mad Men?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Megan says to Dawn, you only like the

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<v Speaker 1>beginnings of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, just maybe think of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Faye Fay, Oh, Fay, you're right, Fay, thank you, Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for correcting me.

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<v Speaker 3>Face says that doctor Fay.

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<v Speaker 1>Carlotta says at the end of the movie, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend I'm instituting mass immunization to make people safe,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm secretly going to kill everyone by putting rabies

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<v Speaker 1>in their vaccines. John Waters predicted COVID.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this, this is such a bad plan on Carlotta's part,

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<v Speaker 5>Like this seems awful, Like the town running around with

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<v Speaker 5>the rabies seems awful.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark.

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<v Speaker 4>They say, ohas beautiful because this is actually happening. In

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<v Speaker 4>a conversation with Faggy, and then there was this beautiful

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<v Speaker 4>exchange in which one of them says, one would be

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<v Speaker 4>fun when they stopped collapsing in the streets, like walking

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<v Speaker 4>into sewer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well this is coming from the woman who also ordered

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<v Speaker 1>her guards sees and fuck her, referring to her daughter exactly.

424
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<v Speaker 2>I love when she comes up with the plan quote unquote,

425
00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:16.319
<v Speaker 2>when she brings in that guard, has him strip and

426
00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:19.319
<v Speaker 2>dance for her and she's spanking him, and she's like,

427
00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:20.839
<v Speaker 2>can ask you a favor? Do you know what? Do

428
00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:26.119
<v Speaker 2>you know where I can find a hydrogen bomb? And

429
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:28.240
<v Speaker 2>then she's like maybe I love the way she words

430
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:29.519
<v Speaker 2>it too, because again I think it's just the way

431
00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Edith Massy talks. She's like, maybe there's a way we

432
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:36.160
<v Speaker 2>can spread rabies and expansively, Like why are they worried

433
00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.480
<v Speaker 2>about this? Money exists here. It's just like it's so funny,

434
00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:42.359
<v Speaker 2>just the deranged part of this.

435
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:46.480
<v Speaker 4>So she and she does infect her daughter with rabies.

436
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:50.200
<v Speaker 2>She does. She also she.

437
00:24:50.119 --> 00:24:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Also hates her daughter very like more than more than

438
00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:53.880
<v Speaker 1>a stranger.

439
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:54.759
<v Speaker 3>She hates her daughter.

440
00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:57.599
<v Speaker 4>But I actually had a problem the rabies and all

441
00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:00.559
<v Speaker 4>of that because I was wandering since like she infects

442
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:02.400
<v Speaker 4>the dollar in the first place, but then the dollar

443
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:06.400
<v Speaker 4>actually bites her, so she gets infected automatically herself, and

444
00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:10.640
<v Speaker 4>then she ends being fried and serves to the public

445
00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:14.119
<v Speaker 4>as a turkey. So I'm wondering, isn't the dangerous for

446
00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:15.079
<v Speaker 4>the public.

447
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:17.160
<v Speaker 3>That's all rap.

448
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm first of all, I appreciate your public health concerns.

449
00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Also the fact that like Cuckoo just like dies, like

450
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:27.920
<v Speaker 2>she just overcome with the rabies and she just dies

451
00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:30.359
<v Speaker 2>when everyone's celebrating and it's just end credits, let's go.

452
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I Also I want to point out, which was really sad,

453
00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:38.039
<v Speaker 2>is when Griselda is trying to like protect her and

454
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:42.359
<v Speaker 2>the house collapses and kills I was like no, I

455
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:46.079
<v Speaker 2>was like, come on, I love it.

456
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.720
<v Speaker 4>It's a Game of Thrones type of killing people. It's

457
00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.960
<v Speaker 4>just that goes on your main character. There's gonna be

458
00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:55.640
<v Speaker 4>another main character, no problem, it's just yet another main

459
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.960
<v Speaker 4>character that needs to die. Okay, next.

460
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:01.200
<v Speaker 5>But then but then when that happens, mink Stole basically

461
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:04.559
<v Speaker 5>switch asides and she goes to become like the daughter

462
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:08.319
<v Speaker 5>that's Carlotta never had exactly exactly.

463
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:09.119
<v Speaker 2>And then.

464
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, just to interrupt with fall, you can kill rabies

465
00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:15.319
<v Speaker 1>by cooking an animal.

466
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.440
<v Speaker 3>But it can. But you can, but.

467
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>It's considered extremely risky and not worth it.

468
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Accord ahead of time.

469
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:25.240
<v Speaker 3>It says.

470
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:29.519
<v Speaker 1>It says if every single part of the meat reaches

471
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>over one hundred and thirty three degrees fahrenheit for several minutes,

472
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:35.279
<v Speaker 1>then the virus will die.

473
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:38.480
<v Speaker 4>No, but then it's dry. You don't want to meat like.

474
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:42.160
<v Speaker 1>That, So you got to weigh one against the other

475
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess exactly.

476
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh oh sorry, go ahead, Ryan.

477
00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I should I think we should definitely talk about the

478
00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:59.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of gift of the magi story with Mole.

479
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:02.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I love it.

480
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.839
<v Speaker 2>So they steal a winning a winning lottery ticket that

481
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Grimselda had stolen from Peggy's husband, and Mole takes it

482
00:27:12.799 --> 00:27:14.559
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, great, let's see if we won. They're

483
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:17.200
<v Speaker 2>going through morphil to find a newspaper to find the

484
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:22.839
<v Speaker 2>lottery numbers they win. So Mole is like, I'm going

485
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.480
<v Speaker 2>to go into town. I'm gonna get some stuff. I'm

486
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>going to come back. And earlier in the movie, Muffy

487
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:34.160
<v Speaker 2>makes a comment that Mole is missing something that would

488
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>make her like the perfect man for her. So Mule

489
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.680
<v Speaker 2>goes into town. I love there's a liquor store right

490
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.640
<v Speaker 2>next to where you claim the lottery tickets. Absolutely flawless

491
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:50.319
<v Speaker 2>design there. And Mull goes into the actual Johns Hopkins building.

492
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Love by the way, there's a fucking screen door on

493
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 2>a medical office, doctor's office, hysterical to me. Love that,

494
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:02.039
<v Speaker 2>And she is looking for a sex change operation. They're

495
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:05.400
<v Speaker 2>explaining there's a lot involved. Again, this is nineteen seventy seven,

496
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:08.720
<v Speaker 2>so there's a lot of like they do psychological examination

497
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, so she's like nope. She takes the

498
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>nurse hostage and is like nope, and she takes the

499
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>doctor and she's like, you're gonna do this for me now,

500
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>So then things happen. We go back home. She comes

501
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:22.759
<v Speaker 2>out comes home in that amazing suit and she's bought

502
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Muffy underwear, new dress, new bra knew everything. And she's like,

503
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I got one more surprise for you, and she makes

504
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 2>her clones her eyes, she opens them. She gets a

505
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 2>penis and comes on to Muffy and Muffy is like

506
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:43.799
<v Speaker 2>repulsed by this and freaks out and she's like, get away,

507
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>get away. Mole is so crushed by this that she

508
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:50.720
<v Speaker 2>cuts the penis off and they cut to another scene

509
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and they come back and I know this sounds to range,

510
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>but I thought it was really nice. Muffy is like

511
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:58.119
<v Speaker 2>selling the wound is like I just liked you. I

512
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>said that to bus to make you, know, to make hotter,

513
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 2>to fuck with you, but like I love you for you.

514
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's like that's really nice. I was

515
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.039
<v Speaker 2>like wow. I was like for for as insane as

516
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:12.519
<v Speaker 2>that sounds. And four John Waters movies in a row.

517
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's really nice. It's like really really

518
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.799
<v Speaker 2>really really sweet, and I feel like that is the

519
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.000
<v Speaker 2>image I remember the most from when I watched all

520
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:24.039
<v Speaker 2>of his movies was the cutting off part, because it

521
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:27.559
<v Speaker 2>was just remember being of the most insane things you

522
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:31.799
<v Speaker 2>see in his movies in this fantasy world still being

523
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:32.519
<v Speaker 2>very graphic.

524
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.559
<v Speaker 4>For this movie, that's interesting because mine is shooting asshole.

525
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they stick a gun up. They don't show it,

526
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:46.559
<v Speaker 1>but they they don't show like insertion, but they shoot

527
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>min Stole up her asshole. And I wrote to Mark

528
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>because Rafall, I wish you were like on our group text,

529
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 1>but Mark says, we're not allowed to talk to you.

530
00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.519
<v Speaker 1>But me and Ryan and Mark have a group text,

531
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.559
<v Speaker 1>and I said, I've never seen anyone shot with a

532
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>gun in their asshole until Desperate Living, so that happened. Also,

533
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to add, when they cook Queen Carlotta and

534
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>bring her out like a turkey, it reminded me of

535
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>of Midsummer where just like that unnatural look on the

536
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:23.119
<v Speaker 1>face of like skin the Jester or the other people

537
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>that like the Oh god, I don't even want to

538
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I wrot that up, I'm like

539
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>feeling queasy, but yeah, made me think of that.

540
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:37.559
<v Speaker 2>So yeah. I also love just collect the credits just

541
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.079
<v Speaker 2>no Demula just kind of like wants to cut the

542
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Queen movies over m Yeah.

543
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah this, Yeah, I've said this a bunch, but this

544
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:49.319
<v Speaker 1>was the most fun.

545
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 3>This was the most campy.

546
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:55.519
<v Speaker 1>Like, if we're going for a over the top insane comedy,

547
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that's campy. This has like hit all the marks for me.

548
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>So it nobody's going to watch any of them. But

549
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>if you had to watch one of these movies, I

550
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 1>would go Desperate Living. I would go My rankings for

551
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>these four would be Desperate Living, Pink, Flamingos, Cry Baby,

552
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Female Trouble.

553
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I think weirdly because this is

554
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I think weirdly because this one is in such a

555
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>fantasy world. I feel like this movie has the least

556
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 2>impact of a lot of his movies. I think that's

557
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>the reason why. Not in a bad way, but I think,

558
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 2>like I get that, I get that, Ryan, I mean,

559
00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:35.759
<v Speaker 2>I love this one, but I'm saying I think the

560
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.559
<v Speaker 2>reason why it's not as like seen as like shocking

561
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.079
<v Speaker 2>as other ones are more insane, I think is because

562
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>it's such a different world and it's so clearly made up.

563
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:47.519
<v Speaker 4>This is actually the safety of the convention. Actually, it

564
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 4>takes you into the fantasy world. This is what Tim said.

565
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 4>This is the Alice in Wonderland kind of situation. It's

566
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 4>just it's it's a safe distance.

567
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

568
00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and have you I've seen Polyester.

569
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 2>I have, actually him and I were talking about that

570
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:09.599
<v Speaker 2>because like Hairspray, Polyester was on Comedy Central a lot

571
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.359
<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid, and it also had this

572
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 2>smelling card too. That was the big thing. He gave

573
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 2>out smell cards in the theater, so when they told

574
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:20.839
<v Speaker 2>you on the screen to scratch it, you could do it.

575
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 5>I've seen probably Esther, but I don't remember what exactly happens,

576
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:31.519
<v Speaker 5>and I feel like I remember more the scenes of

577
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 5>of Desperate Living.

578
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, yeah, it's I remember because the big thing

579
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.400
<v Speaker 2>with it was tab Hunter, yea, a guy who was

580
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>like because they just I was. I mean, people haven't

581
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 2>seen it. It's played as like a very straight up

582
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:48.599
<v Speaker 2>melodrama where just divine and is playing a woman and

583
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.640
<v Speaker 2>tab Hunter plays her husband, and it's just kind of

584
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>about like this kind of like again fifties thing. But

585
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I remember because the commercials on Comedy Central Fur it

586
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 2>would always be like the two of them running and

587
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.960
<v Speaker 2>embracing in the house, and it was just called like

588
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>like why is called polyester? And it was just like

589
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.079
<v Speaker 2>always the commercial for it. But I also knew, like

590
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I think John Waters similar to other people like he

591
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>like he has Patty Hurst. He loves people who have

592
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>interesting histories, where like tab Hunter has an interesting lynk.

593
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:19.799
<v Speaker 2>I believe he was closeted gay for a very long time,

594
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 2>and I think when he came out it was just

595
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:26.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of like over for him as a star. So

596
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 2>I think a similar thing where like he was bringing

597
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:31.079
<v Speaker 2>him back into people's lives.

598
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do do we want to give desperate living it Tammy?

599
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:47.599
<v Speaker 5>Or I was one one thinks this is the kind

600
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 5>of the end of the you know series. I did

601
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 5>also read I don't know if you guys read this,

602
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 5>that like John Waters made a screenplay for a sequel

603
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:04.680
<v Speaker 5>to Paint Flamingos and apparently Divine did not want to

604
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:05.000
<v Speaker 5>do it.

605
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 4>Like they were either.

606
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 5>Focusing they said like partly they were focusing on more

607
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:15.920
<v Speaker 5>like serious acting roles, and then also that they were

608
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 5>thinking that this sort of like crude humor wasn't going

609
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:22.039
<v Speaker 5>to work in the kind of eighties. Uh, And then

610
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 5>Edith Massey died and then Divine died shortly after that,

611
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.880
<v Speaker 5>so it never got made. But apparently the screenplay exists.

612
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.320
<v Speaker 5>And I think John Waters actually like like has has

613
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 5>it in some book of his that you can read

614
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 5>the screenplay of Flamingo's Forever.

615
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>So I will mention like Tam Tammy's making love speaking

616
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 1>of Divine, o, she's our our queen. Tammy is making

617
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>love to the microphone. So non short films, he made

618
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Mondo Trash Show, Pink Flamingos Female Trouble, Oh, sorry, multiple Maniacs.

619
00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>It goes Mando Trashow, Multiple Maniacs, Flamingo's Female Trouble, just

620
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:07.639
<v Speaker 1>for Living, Polyester, Hairspray, cry Baby, Serial Mom, Pecker cecil

621
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 1>be demented in a Dirty Shame, and then after a

622
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>dirty shame, he has not made a feature length movie

623
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>because studios finally were like, wait, why are we doing this?

624
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>And he has not been able to make a movie since.

625
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 1>But it's been It's happened to Like John Carpenter, it

626
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>happened too. And there are some great directors that just

627
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>can't get movies made anymore.

628
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:34.159
<v Speaker 2>I think it's the idea, Like they always say, like

629
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>the joke, it's like you become like, hey, they want

630
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 2>to reward you. Hey, they wanted you to come speak.

631
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 2>But if you ever want see people like hey, I

632
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:43.119
<v Speaker 2>have an idea for a movie, they just ignore you.

633
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<v Speaker 2>They don't know anymore correct. He's written a few books.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another thing too. He has been writing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of just novels of his ideas, which I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who have a hard time getting things

637
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 2>off the ground do that too. So he's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>had something out there, but it just sucks that he

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<v Speaker 2>can't get one more out.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's first give desperate living advice. And I would say

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<v Speaker 1>my desperate living advice is, you know, don't don't use

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom in a scenario where if you're like, if

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00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you're on the street and you don't feel safe, don't

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<v Speaker 1>use the bathroom there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan, don't buy the street pie. When they first get

647
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>to Moretville, I just died that cart. That guy and

648
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 2>there was chocolate and lemon oh chocolate Lease. Just the

649
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 2>immediate reaction was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like in Game of thrones to go back to that.

651
00:36:55.880 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 1>When uh Aria is like masquerading as an oyster salesman

652
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:06.320
<v Speaker 1>in the city and she's just walking down the street

653
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 1>with like a basket of oysters, going like oysters for sale,

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00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, whoa, who the fuck is buying that? That's

655
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>instant death or sick for four days? But Mark, was

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<v Speaker 1>you just for living advice?

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<v Speaker 5>I was thinking, if you do need to go to Mordville,

658
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:27.079
<v Speaker 5>I think you should move into the Newdest Colony because

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00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:28.760
<v Speaker 5>it seemed like they didn't have to follow rules, and

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00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 5>it seemed like generally they were having a good time

661
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<v Speaker 5>in the aside from that guy getting shot, but he

662
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:40.400
<v Speaker 5>had connection to Cuckoo, so otherwise it seemed like if

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<v Speaker 5>I had to be in Mordville, I wouldn't stay at

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<v Speaker 5>the Newdest Colony.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm going to quote what was her name? Peggy?

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00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 4>Was it Peggy, the one who had the mental issues

667
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:54.639
<v Speaker 4>in the first place? Peggy? Yeah, So the moment she

668
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<v Speaker 4>is about to get shot, she says a single gun

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<v Speaker 4>shut can never destroy the beauty of fascism.

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<v Speaker 1>That that is a great quote.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a fantastic quote.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well, sorry, go ahead, Ryan, Sorry just speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to transition to something else. So if

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<v Speaker 1>it's relevant, I mean, you're probably wasting everyone's time. But

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<v Speaker 1>if it's relevant, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Hasn't all this been that?

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Never mind, it's not worth it.

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00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Though, No, no, no, for real, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead please.

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<v Speaker 2>In the opening credits, I just love as an actor

682
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:41.760
<v Speaker 2>named Turkey Joe. I thought that was great. Name is Turkey?

683
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Just says Turkey Joe. Like in the list of actors,

684
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:47.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like Joe Stevens, Vincent Peranio. Turkey Joe was Like,

685
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 2>who the fuck was Turkey Joe?

686
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:54.480
<v Speaker 4>He was the cop he was he was the cop

687
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<v Speaker 4>who like wants their panties.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really perfect, I would say that. So I think

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00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:06.760
<v Speaker 1>we should transition now to John Waters overall advice, And

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<v Speaker 1>my John Waters overall advice is, even if this is

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<v Speaker 1>not for you, and this is insane and gross and

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<v Speaker 1>you hate this, you have to admit It's like I've

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00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 1>said this about movies before, where.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't like this, but I'm glad it exists.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be glad that someone like John Waters

696
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:32.760
<v Speaker 1>exists and is somewhat mainstream, because we need, we need.

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<v Speaker 3>John Waters in society.

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<v Speaker 1>If everyone was the same society would be so boring

699
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and so strict, and we need John Waters to push

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<v Speaker 1>the boundaries and just freak out the squares and freak

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00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 1>out the hippies to like I said earlier, you know,

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00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:53.159
<v Speaker 1>we need somebody that's like, oh shit, I'm gonna turn

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<v Speaker 1>your world.

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<v Speaker 3>Upside down today.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if we don't like it, we have to respect that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something like, we're so free in America. We're such

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful country, even though like nowadays is very flawed

708
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<v Speaker 1>and we're in a real bad state. We're so free

709
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>of a country and so wonderful that people like John

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00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Waters can flourish in America.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's very very.

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<v Speaker 1>Few opportunities like that where people can flourish in the

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<v Speaker 1>world being artists like John Waters.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that he's a unicorn.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I said earlier, and that's why I love

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<v Speaker 1>him so Ryan, what's your John.

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<v Speaker 3>Waters advice.

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<v Speaker 2>That doing something creative with your friends can pay off?

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<v Speaker 2>We were saying off Mike, he said the same. Cast primarily,

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<v Speaker 2>even when he went more mainstream with like Serial Mom

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff and got bigger stars, he still cast most

722
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.639
<v Speaker 2>of these people in his movies. He used the same crew,

723
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>casting people, cinematographers, everything, all of them stuck with them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just kind of it's just kind of nice

725
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.039
<v Speaker 2>that that kind of thing can exist, where like you

726
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>guys started out making these backyard movies and now when

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00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:12.119
<v Speaker 2>you got this successful, he stuck with you. You stuck

728
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 2>with him, and you just get to keep doing this.

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00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's just a really nice thing to see,

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00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.280
<v Speaker 2>as corny as that sounds, that that kind of thing

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00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:27.320
<v Speaker 2>can pay off for all of you. Mark, It's really nice.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's kind of to echo like what like

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<v Speaker 5>you were saying tough as well, because I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>when I was watching is like when I was watching

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00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:40.519
<v Speaker 5>what's it called Crybaby right before this, I just felt

736
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<v Speaker 5>like John like what we were watching, like John Waters

737
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.760
<v Speaker 5>saw in his life and was like this needs to

738
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<v Speaker 5>be made fun of in order for us to progress,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, like this like this bunny hop, Like

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00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 5>I know he saw people doing the bunny hop and

741
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.159
<v Speaker 5>he was like, what the hell was this? And I

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00:41:57.159 --> 00:41:59.159
<v Speaker 5>feel like this is also very healthy of a society

743
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 5>to be able to create a eyes some of the

744
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.719
<v Speaker 5>things we've gone through. And I think John Watererce is

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00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 5>a really good way of being able to do that

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<v Speaker 5>like make things very uncomfortable, but you know, do it

747
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:16.639
<v Speaker 5>in a way that make the uncomfortable comfortable in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that this goes back to what

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about, like if you this, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like the squares doing the bunny hop is like when

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<v Speaker 1>I see a man in a blue polo shirt going

752
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>to a Dave Matthews concert, I'm.

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00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Like, are you really that boring? Are you really that boring?

754
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>And we need people in life to be like, are

755
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you really that boring? Refall, what is your John Waters advice?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I would kind of also the same route, the

757
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.400
<v Speaker 4>similar route. I would say, that's whatever fringery in your allegitimates,

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00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 4>Like you're just fine? Do you do you? Because I

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<v Speaker 4>read I read like, especially in cry Baby, I really

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<v Speaker 4>love this idea. That's like we're kind of talking about

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<v Speaker 4>John Waller as being the sort of icon of queer

762
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 4>cinema whatsoever, and then he's actually giving a portraits of

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<v Speaker 4>hillbillies who are who are now out of Norway becoming

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00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:19.039
<v Speaker 4>the characters that we associate ourselves with. And this is

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00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.440
<v Speaker 4>how he's really, in a brilliant way, kind of blending

766
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.840
<v Speaker 4>the boundary and he's showing you, Okay, whatever the hell

767
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:30.519
<v Speaker 4>fringe you're in, and you kind of find yourself comfortable.

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<v Speaker 4>You're fine. Just live your truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, Live your truth, Live your truth. So

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why not that like gay cinema is so

771
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 1>fucking weird and out there. But I love doing this

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00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>series because it's just, you know, like most of the

773
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>time we're talking about Goodfellas or Batman or you know, bullshit,

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00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and this is a way too, you know, like I

775
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about on the hen Reportrait of a Seriracular Podcast,

776
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:10.079
<v Speaker 1>I want to play some music that'll scare the hell

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00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>out of people. I like making people uncomfortable, which Mark

778
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:16.079
<v Speaker 1>has noticed about me probably fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm glad that that we.

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00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Can discuss movies like this every year, only if they're

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<v Speaker 1>in English and not if they're in any other language.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much for doing this and for

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<v Speaker 1>contributing to the John Waters theme, especially when it's very

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00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:41.360
<v Speaker 1>difficult to watch these movies in Iceland, but Mark pyrates

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00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>all of them. Yeah, so until next year. I mean,

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00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I hope Mark will be on before then. But this

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<v Speaker 1>was wonderful and thank you so much for being here guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thanks for having thanks for having this. We need

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00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 4>to do euphoria next.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations on your marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>We do need to do you for.

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00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll be in because I'm so straight and Sidney Sweeney's

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00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>got boobs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, I'm more of a I'm more of a Maddy

796
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.360
<v Speaker 2>guy personally, if you want to go that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Really interesting, absolutely absolutely, Ben text, Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>Text, she's one of the few this season.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Ben is.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben is into very very thin women, like way more

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<v Speaker 1>so than I am. And he texted me He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying Sidney Sweeney is mid. I'm not one

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00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of those like in cells it's going to say that.

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00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:43.320
<v Speaker 1>But and then he proceeded to tell me how Sidney

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00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Sweeney is mid and I'm just like, no, no, I

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00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:51.519
<v Speaker 1>mean you can like see her ribs when you know,

807
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.639
<v Speaker 1>when you're looking at her torso she just happens to

808
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>have big boobs.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I don't agree with that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, so this is what happens when you live

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<v Speaker 1>in ten here, Scottsdale for twenty years.

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00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Sidney Sweeney has average to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, well let's end this before anything bad happens.

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00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:16.800
<v Speaker 3>And thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Mark and Refall, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry but I did not catch your name.

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00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:28.519
<v Speaker 2>By Brian Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Brian, and we will catch you on the

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<v Speaker 1>lit