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Speaker 3: And then if you take the.
Speaker 4: Blink and put that in the chat GPT or grock,
you get the eight word summary of the show.
Speaker 2: You know, it's pretty funny that you bring up the
the chat GPT because I saw an article saying people
are turning people much like well, I was gonna say
much like yourself, but I don't know that's necessarily fair.
And I only say that because you have had health concerns.
And where have you gone?
Speaker 4: I've gone to uh Ai, You did go to chat GPT.
I've gone to chatch gone on the internet, have gone.
Speaker 2: And I knew the Internet, I didn't know you went
to chat GPT.
Speaker 4: I used four different ais, Okay. Now I use it
for specific purposes because it keeps a running log.
Speaker 3: Of what you're writing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I use Gemini for work, okay.
Speaker 2: I've never used Gemen.
Speaker 3: That's that's Google's yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: Or you could use Bard. I use Grok for like
sports questions or whatever. I never used Gronk and health
questions or Grock Grock. That would be.
Speaker 2: Dude. You know Pizza brus. He really has.
Speaker 3: Taken to his character quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Then there.
Speaker 4: I use chat GPT for just uh miscellaneous suff because
I heard that that that AI is actually lagging behind.
And I've asked the I've actually asked questions the same
question to all the chat all the eyes, and I'll
get different answers, and it seems like chat GPT's answers
aren't as accurate as the others.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, a lot of the the big language based
ais are up to twenty twenty three. That's really what
their knowledge goes to.
Speaker 4: But and I use perplexity, I don't use Claude. I
haven't used Claude. Yet I've heard great things about Claude.
I've heard that's more of a visual type of thing.
Speaker 3: We're creative.
Speaker 2: I've used Claude, and I've used chat GPT. I've used
chat GPT's writer, I've used Gamma, and I've used which
does amazing things if you're looking to do presentations and stuff.
Speaker 3: But I've also used got a co Pilot briefly.
Speaker 4: Copilot actually predicted the results of a game with the
spread earlier this year.
Speaker 3: I think I talked about it.
Speaker 2: Marks I used AI called porn Hub, the.
Speaker 3: Porn hub like steals. I guess steals, All.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, go ahead, it's it's say it.
Speaker 2: I think there's AI porn out there. There is not
AA porn now yet, Oh it might be. I don't know.
I look at porn. I know you don't. I know
you never did. Actually, really, you never really looked at porn. No,
I was never a porn guy. Yeah, I know. Well.
In this article, it's as people are turning to chat,
GPT and other AI sources for their medical questions, and
then it goes a little deeper and it has a
whole list of questions about sex that adults are asking
Ai and I go, oh my god. When I was
a kid, we sat in the library in the back
room and we would take turns, and it was usually
me sit up on the like the heating vend and
all the kids would sit down. And we were fifth
grade there and we would read about sex from the encyclopedia.
That's how we got our information. Our parents wouldn't tell us.
Sixth grade is when you ask your sexual education. And
Mike Hope the jerkwater Town. Wow, yeah, my jerkwater Town.
Apparently it's getting younger. Yeah, and so but I'm going
and it probably should because they can jump on chat
GPT if they've got older siblings, they could. I mean
it's all available, right, yes there.
Speaker 4: Well I texted you this weekend about it, like I
have somebody I know who I have a sex talk
with my son and now because of him, I had
to have the sex talk with my daughter.
Speaker 3: I go, how old the third and second grade he goes.
Speaker 4: The reason is because he's coming home and asking questions
like what's a S word? Yeah, and my brother's like
does a spit take what? And they go to a
Christian school.
Speaker 2: Wow, those are the worst.
Speaker 6: I'm exibitt one but people ask like a wide range
of topics on CHET ept about sex, relationship and communication,
how to talk to your partner about desires, boundaries, or
issues in the bedroom, which sometimes you might need, like
especially for commercials.
Speaker 3: Don't explain, wow, I can't get an erection.
Speaker 2: No, right, But when you can't get an erection and
there aren't lights and cameras on you, and you're an
actor and you really got to say something. By the way,
do you want to be the guy? I used to
want to be the guy in the We're Gonna get
two tubs? In all the sexual harassment videos they had
at work, I wanted I wanted to be the guy,
the actor that got to do this. It's a shitty thing,
that's it. But I wouldn't want to be the actor
with the erectile dysfunction, especially if I didn't have it.
Wasn't there a friend's episode like where Joe Joey does
an STD yes or something like that, and like you
can't get laid at all, you can't find anybody? Yeah? Uh,
they had performing anxiety concerns about lasting longer, confidence or
overcoming nervousness. Then there's a just I just like you
so much why sex drive fluctuates, how to boost it,
how to enhance pleasure for themselves with their partners. St
I s all this stuff, but then in the article
they have what they call experts. Okay, now we had experts,
we had doctor Ruth. Yes we did, yes, yes we did.
Speaker 3: Get yourself.
Speaker 2: I used to have the biggest boner every time I
heard her voice. Oh yeah, I did it because you
associated it was coming right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was in like third or fourth grade. I was
up in my little loft bedroom. I loved it. I'd
be listening to doctor.
Speaker 4: Sexually speaking, the commercials on MTV about hepatitis. You can't
protect yourself for it's get the facts that get the vacs.
Speaker 2: Oh, look at that, because.
Speaker 3: Hepatitis you could actually get vaccinated for.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't the big one whatever, the big one is?
Speaker 2: Is it hepatitis? There's different Yeah, there's different answers.
Speaker 3: There's C Yeah is the big one.
Speaker 2: I think you're right. And then I thought there was
one that was even worse.
Speaker 3: I think it's the sexually trader.
Speaker 4: And there's HEP A and B, which you think are
more like sharing, like coke cans or something like.
Speaker 3: Hey, you want a sip?
Speaker 2: Of this really. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
I'm not that Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: In sex education class they didn't talk about he was.
Everything was AIDS. That's magic Johnson.
Speaker 5: So see that was before me our SECU was in
fifth grade. Yeah, and that was before AIDS or any
of that stuff.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, it was creates right, me too. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was all called venereal disease, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Then when they got to be my age, it was
specified into chlamydia.
Speaker 2: Well age, we knew it from our own fifth grade
back library thing because you could find and they would
show you pictures of like I mean, it was a
dick with like four heads on it, because it's like
a gnarly and bubbled it did it looks like you
know what this is like something?
Speaker 3: It looks like a space.
Speaker 2: Somebody put a curse ony in Harry Potter. It's like,
you know, or Lord of the Rings. But somebody says
it's important that anyone with questions about sex and pleasure
can receive answers from trusted sources. Again, we're gonna say,
don't believe everything you read on the internet, even what
that is. Uh, this this person is from we Vibe magazine.
It's a leading oh excuse me, leading global brand for
couple sexual pleasure. Technology can be helpful to when it
comes to sex and pleasure, but AI doesn't always know
the best when it comes to our sexual health and
well being. And according then there's another thing called womanizer.
Womanizer is a website that sells like pleasure toys like
this one. I guess it blows air out and vibrates
at the same time, basically, but it's but it's for
women and you can spend over two hundred dollars on
a toy, Like I thought that was a lot of
money for a toy. Oh yeah, when I almost worked it?
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, Well is it.
Speaker 3: Called uh not Ontario?
Speaker 2: No not Ontario video? You show world, show world man
some expensive ship? They have some expensive ship. Yeah yeah,
I should have worked that job for a call. I
should a couple. But this lady writes, uh, the first
step is to get educated. Good lovers are made, not born.
She says, Okay, So instead of going to AI, she says,
go out and learn as much as you can about sex, pleasure, communication,
and bodies. Find the resources that work for you, whether
that's podcasts, books, online courses, workshops or consulting a couple's
counselor or sexologists, surrounding yourself with expert led sex positive
blah blah blah blah blah. You know what this is
really leading to?
Speaker 5: Think about it for a second, Hey, did they have
the it's leading to what? It's leading to? Cheating on affairs,
doing other things.
Speaker 2: I guess that's where it's going. Oh look, I forgot,
I did look up Womanizer. I still have the window open.
The Womanizer next clatoral suction stimulator three hundred and nineteen
dollars in ninety five. This thing comes with the maybe
it comes with the lifetime guarantee. I don't know. But
here's the thing. Would you ever do a workshop and now,
like you and I similar age, mark right or similar age,
if you went back and you could have more confidence
kind of like now, would have been beneficial to go
and have done like a sexual workshop. Maybe I'm wondering
the same thing, like I'm dead serious. Like so then
I had to look, uh say, what kind of intimacy
workshop would be around Rochester? And I don't know if
this place still exists or not, but there is something
called effortless intimacy. It's effortless intimacy. And I think it's
Amanda Waitwattie dot com and she is an intimacy expert. Well,
I can't there's no number on here. I sent her
an email. The blog has not been updated since twenty
twenty one. That's not good. She may be dead very well.
Did you check Booker, Twitter or anything then too?
Speaker 5: I did not, Okay, check that, because that's why sometimes
that's why they don't blog.
Speaker 2: They blog on their on their eyes social media, and yeah,
it makes a little more sense. So uh see, you're
gonna look. You don't have Facebook, Twitter. Oh that's true
for couples or individuals. So you can have a loved
a love loft retreat and they take you somewhere in Rochester.
They have a studio apartment with beautiful hardwoods, like a
whole kitchen set up. It looks really nice, big bright
windows in I don't I don't think it's a kink club,
but I am curious because it says you can get
three to four hours of in person support, So what
the fuck is that it has? It sounds like this
sounds to me like an orgy. We gotta so then
Doug phelps, I want to I want to talk to
this person. So support to be used in one or
two blocks of time, for example, two hours one evening
and two hours the next morning. So they help you
in the evening, they leave, and they come back and
help you again. How weird would that be? Having somebody
Unless you're an actor or actor you don't understand what
I'm saying, Like, yeah, who goes? And it's not cheap?
Three hours of support in a one night's day. Is
it a money back guarantee? I don't know. No, how
much do you think three hours of support and one
night and you're gonna it? Says this. These are all
the things you're gonna get mark. You're gonna learn how
to set your space, body and mind for optimal connection.
You're gonna discover the best way to clear emotional upset.
You're gonna create repair, repair in your relationship if you
need anything to repair. Awaken your voice to communicate from
the depth of your heart. I don't know. Feel more
powerful in your relationships, Become a master of creating chemistry, experience,
dropping deeper into your body so you can feel more surrender, pleasure,
and presence, Enjoy and overnight stay in the love loft.
How much do you think three hours of support and
a one night's they are three thousand, three thousand danny,
I say about four four. It's one two hundred and
twenty two dollars, which I thought was a lot for
three hours of sport. Four hours of support is one thousand,
three hundred and thirty three dollars. Basically, they're probably gonna
throw something else in there. You're looking at fifteen hundred
dollars for these and I go, are they I would
love to talk to them? What do they do? Who
are their clients? Not who? But like, give me a
broad Well, here's a weird thing.
Speaker 3: Is it all this crap on YouTube? Anyway? Could just
learn all this stuff on YouTube?
Speaker 2: I don't know if it is on YouTube.
Speaker 4: I mean no, no, I'm not saying that, like they
actually go to the sexual acts, but explaining it maybe
right to me.
Speaker 2: They want hands on privacy, Like you know what I'm saying.
I don't want a video, I got some. I just
wonder if these people are really kinky and then all
of a sudden becomes a three way.
Speaker 4: When we worked in radio, we actually talked to this
nudist colony, remember, And we had a guy called the show.
He's a regular caller who's called himself chill Will. And
then chill Will started asking the woman on the other
end about the types of women that were there, and
she got to pull back a little bit, and you
had to remind him this isn't a sex club.
Speaker 3: This is the newdest colony.
Speaker 4: But guys like him would like want to go because
they were all, you know, no.
Speaker 2: This is for couples. So this is you and Beth,
this is you and Marianne. You feel like you could
get a little more out of it. Beth wants more. Danny,
Danny's the little has Jesus in his heart? Who's going
you do it? You can't do that.
Speaker 3: No, Jesus wouldn't do that. We're married, Jesus. Do whatever
you want. At that point, I'm just I'm teasy, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 2: Just saying but but but there may be some things
that you go, I'm not comfortable with that, right, And
then you go to an intimacy can put the gun
down and they help you through it, and I go,
why do I feel like this is a front for
someone who's getting off on.
Speaker 3: Because of course it is.
Speaker 2: It's got to be right, So let me go back.
Speaker 4: It's like those those little like storefronts in the hood. Yeah,
that poses restaurants, but they're not really like she okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is her on the on
the cover of the page, but it says, we see you,
beautiful human, and we're so glad you're here, is what
it says. In the uh. You wish to experiencing more,
experience more of your own erotic beauty and innocence. You
wish to unlease more of your primal potent nature while
also embracing your vulnerability. And then they get They give
you all this stuff right, and then they tell about us.
It's Amanda and Tom collectively draw from fifty plus years
of professional influence as students and facilitators of varying Yana, Buddhism,
so matt sex education, and the Sacred Sexuality women's work
blah blah blah. Yeah, and as a queerish monogamish couple
they hold a guynocentric, poly noormative queer. I don't even
know what these things are.
Speaker 3: It's made it up, like their degrees, they make it
up as they go along.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we cover all the b I think they're saying, like, hey,
if you are someone who's new out of the closet,
we can help you be intimate with someone of the
same sex. We can help people who are whatever. I
don't know. I don't know. I have no idea. It's
like real sex from HBO. Yes, but it's here. And
I want to know was she making money and where
was where was this? How did people go? Could someone
really benefit? And who has the I don't know that
I would have the I couldn't perform in front of
I know someone whould probably who probably would go to it?
Who would go to this? Y someone we all know.
Really he worked in you know he worked in radio
with us weeze. No, well yeah, Harry, Harry, Oh Harry, Yeah, yeah,
you would be the first one there. Yeah, I just
I that was my only thing. Like could you do
it with a coach? Coach makes you better? I guess.
You know, you gotta watch a little tape, Dan once
in a while, I'm gonna get the places right. You
gotta watch tape.
Speaker 4: So George Carl had a joke about Tony Robbins once
he goes if you go to a Tony Robbins Seminar.
Speaker 3: You don't need to go to a Tony Robbins Seminar.
Speaker 4: If you could afford this type of stuff, you probably
don't have this type of problem. This is for desperate
people who will scrounge up the money to go and
figure out how to quote learn how to do this stuff.
Speaker 3: If you have to go to one of.
Speaker 4: These, your marriage is over. It's too far gone. There's
no fix of this thing, because if you got money,
the money makes up for the problems of the bedroom.
Speaker 2: Okay, But hanging on a second, have you not been
very open on this podcast?
Speaker 4: Oh, I've been more open than than most people. I think,
more open than I should.
Speaker 2: Be, haven't. I should have helped, I should have. But
you once said in the past, there was a person.
Speaker 3: Who asked me to put my hands on her neck.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I wonder what if an intimacy coach I
could even fake it, could coach you through that to
the point where it gave her I'm not I'm just wondering.
I not could I don't know, I don't know. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, well, they have all those degrees fake degrees.
Speaker 2: Look ahead, you see can you see Brell choking? I
just can't imagine it. I could, I couldn't do it.
I know you couldn't do it. Coach me to do it,
That's what I'm saying. Like, but I wonder if that's
what they do, what if you went in there, like
it would be really funny to find a couple who
are very nerdy looking like those really probably the best,
but they're they're sort of like or upper crusty, I
don't know, and they get in their nigga. Look, I
love to have the ship beat out of me when
I'm in there. I want to be slapped, choked, I
want dog leashes, I want everything. Can you teach him
how to do that? You know what I'm saying, be phenomenal.
Speaker 4: I could see that scenario because you'd really have to
get guttural to do something like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: Gosh, all right, well.
Speaker 3: Well it's almost like.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say it, but I mean, I mean,
nothing means anything, but you'd almost like have to get
him on the podcast to ask him like, hey, do
you do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure we do that. Of course they're gonna say
that we could teach you how to do that, well.
Speaker 2: I want to get them on a podcast, and I
would almost want to make it, for lack of a
better term, an educational, well, a serious conversation, because if
there are people like you, gotta be I would say, almost,
for lack of a better term, brave to go and
almost be coached through how to have sex? Do you
know what I mean? Or more pleasurable sex?
Speaker 3: Or I just thought of it? Would you said?
Speaker 4: Be brave?
Speaker 3: And we spent a lot of money on this.
Speaker 4: I immediately went to Phil Hartman and Chris Farley doing
Matt Full of Guys.
Speaker 3: This set us back a bit. Run catcha Chris Farley
coming in talking to you about sex?
Speaker 2: All right, here's what you're gonna do. I just don't
you can't get a boner. But I saw the article
and then it led me write down to well, what
do we have in Rochester intimacy coaches? I would love
to have somebody who's like a sex therapist on to
talk about, like what are what are most common hang
ups and how do you help people through them? And
I do think probably the biggest thing is having a
conversation of what I like, what you like, and maybe
what I like makes you.
Speaker 4: Uncomfortable right that way, you just find some common ground.
You gotta find some common denominators. Well, that one woman
that we talked to from the kingk Society, she might
be able to point in the right direction, because I'm
sure they have to have like intimacy coaching for some
of these people at the Kinks.
Speaker 5: No they don't, dude, Well, then I'm sure like there's
got to be some alloy to work with those people.
Speaker 2: No, but I don't think so, because they're joining the
King Society. They're all about it. They're all about it.
I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: I understand that they might know somebody.
Speaker 2: You know, like they may. They may, but I'm thinking,
like you would want oh maybe they'll do it themselves
coach up. Hey, come on, what's this? I just find
it very interesting and I would love to see and
I would love to know even like common intimacy problems
or how can you get somebody into that. I think
like I'm one of these people. Who is I wouldn't say, Well,
I guess I am. I'm a risk taker. I'm a
risk taker for to a certain Yeah you know you are, Yeah,
I am.
Speaker 4: This podcast right here, well, yeah, this is the biggest
risk ever.
Speaker 2: Hundred percent. But I go so even in the bedroom,
I can.
Speaker 4: Pad like five risks of your life just off the
top of my head.
Speaker 2: I won't go thank you, But I'm just thinking, like,
if somebody said to me, Hey, why don't we try this?
I would be like right, unless it unless it was
like another dude, like yeah that I would have a
flat out. If it was just what's going on? If
it was just one on.
Speaker 5: One, just one on one, if you were if you
were drunk in a hot girl, yeah, wind to get
a ound with you and a buddy, but you guys
didn't touch each other or anything.
Speaker 2: Would you do something like that? I don't know. I
don't know if I were drunk, Yeah, I probably you
would have to be drunk, Yeah I probably. I probably would. Yeah,
I probably what I probably would have back in my
younger day. Yeah, you probably will. Yeah. And it's blue period, Yes,
in the back of the CMF van.
Speaker 3: The only thing that rocks.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a moment Deephanie Hurley is going
to join us. They have this is interesting, Well, it
is interesting, and I think it's worth talking about because man,
they're on it, right, they're on it. Sheriff Baxter and
the Monroe County Sheriffs are in charge of the Monroe
County Jail. I wish you ran New York State and
they did. They did a hell of a job. Yes,
you talked about the school without walls. No, okay, I
would you like to bring that up later? I heard this.
Speaker 5: I think we can talk about it because something happened
in the city today today, Yes, yesterday? Oh that's was
that the school that walls or no school without walls?
And then something happened yester and something happened at Franklin.
I think Franklin today. Okay, so there's copycat.
Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll get to all that coming up.
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places where unfortunately it took a tragedy to find. Out
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Speaker 2: So in this you you had a what do? We
Call Them the monroe? County, sheriff deputy no? What is
it what are the what are the guys who work in? The,
jail called yeah they're.
Speaker 7: All they're all we're, all, Deputy sheriffs right so the
basic way we all work for the sheriff and he
deputizes us like an, old western right you, have the
deputies and that's that's where we get, our authority from is.
His Elected position deputy sheriff's, in the, jail you know
so there it's a little bit of a different certification and,
things like that but their specialty is, the.
Speaker 2: Jail okay and so you had one guy who was
allowing the INCARCERATED got people i don't, want to say
but the. Country. To, fight correct yes was there gambling
going ON on those i mean there had. To be
bets there. HAD to, BE i mean i know that that's,
probably The chips but i'm just saying there had to
be bets. OF these, fights.
Speaker 7: I mean hopefully when this, is all over we'll be
able to get. More into it and this is always
the hardest part of my job is when it's an
ONGOING investigation and i can't give you. All, the details
yeah it leaves it, open for, speculation LIKE gambling but
i think you're going to be disappointed.
Speaker 2: In, That part okay SO what, Was i MEAN let's
say i had a Problem, with with mark who's, in
HERE tonight, and, i, said, hey listen man when we
hit the, showers at five give, me five minutes it
would it be? SOMETHING like, that i mean IS that
how i would assume this is initiated by, someone who's
incarcerated not by a, jailer going hey you want to
kick the shirt, Out of them i'll let you. DO it.
Speaker 4: Late.
Speaker 2: I don't know i guess you, really Can't say and
i'm ASKING questions, and i, apologize you're.
Speaker 7: Right, You're, right no, it's it's good and. IT'S you're right,
I can't say and a LOT of it i Don't
know because i'm. Not Investigating it i'm i'm just the
one who luckily gets to. Talk about IT but what
i can tell you is that this all stemmed from
a jail major who was doing the rounds like.
Speaker 2: They.
Speaker 7: Always do right, so for, reference you know you, have
the sheriff, The under sheriff then you, have the superintendent
who's the like the chief, of the jail and then
right below him. Is the major so that level, of.
Speaker 2: You know yeah that, level, of hierarchy right and.
Speaker 7: From the bottom you have in the jelly, of, deputy, corporal,
sergeant lieutenant captain. Then the major so we're talking a, high.
Ranking official right there's all two of them. In the
jail so one of them was doing, their normal rounds
and a inmate or incarcerated individual felt comfortable enough to
approach him and air the grievance of these things. Were
going on so we. Took that seriously, in that night
the major started making phone calls To everybody internal. Affairs
got involved once there was enough to realize that there
could be criminal the, investigators got involved started, looking into
that notified all, the Proper authorities The, department Of Corrections The, trained,
general's office, everybody you, know because again we don't want
anyone to think that we're protecting anybody or trying.
Speaker 2: To hide anything and then the other was another person
let Go From The Monroe county sheriff's department for all
tipping off guys that there was GOING to orb, i
should say incarcerated people that there was going to, be, cell,
search right RIGHT so then, i, could, say, HEY hey
soldier i know you got. THAT shiven there i want.
Speaker 4: To hide that it's LIKE telling, an, nfl player hey we're.
Speaker 2: Do, DRUG testing yeah i mean in a, way which which,
by the way could put everybody in there's. Life, in
danger right it could put everybody. At a risk let's put,
it that way.
Speaker 7: At a risk and that's the, most important part because whether,
it's contraband drugs those kind of things where people can
overdose and, have you know allergic reactions, or you know
serious complications with. Or. Its weapons right we did a
release a couple. OF weeks ago i don't know if,
you saw it but we caught someone trying to sneak contraband.
Into the jail and you know how, they, do, that.
Speaker 2: YES yeah well I, know how mark how they put it, up. Their.
Speaker 4: Ass right yeah well it's not that it's not a
male mail file.
Speaker 3: In the cake.
Speaker 7: It's called. The prison purse.
Speaker 2: You didn't. Know, That day no, i'm very.
Speaker 8: Innocent all right so you'll get especially people who know
they're going away and they're, going to prison and they
come into the jail before they get transferred, to the
prison they'll.
Speaker 7: Stash this stuff The one, that i'm, REFERENCING we had
i think the guy had three balloons up there and,
it was marijuana some kind of synthetic marijuana and. Two, razor.
BLADES wow brave i wouldn't trust it in a balloon in,
the first place. But razor blades that's if.
Speaker 2: You wrap the razor blades in like paper towel and
then shove that in the balloon and then that. Up.
Your balloon nine, you know what.
Speaker 4: If people work harder on staying, out of jail commem
up with innovative ideas instead of figuring out great creative
ways to stick things up there YOU know where i
think society would be in.
Speaker 3: A better shape use your.
Speaker 2: Powers. For, good yeah right, Here's my question like when
it comes, out right now what if? It gets, stuck
oh geez and you're like blowing a giant balloon out
your that's. Gonna be suspicious but how if you get
it out and then right what? Do we think it's
probably covered in feces or has feces, Somewhere on It that's.
What i'll say and then you gotta you? Cut it
open and how's it not getting on the marijuana or the.
Speaker 5: Coke or whatever. They, don't care man they're desperate enough
they're gonna smoke that with. Shit on it there.
Speaker 2: Goes, them low, yes so hey you're a. Real brown noser?
What even Doing even? Doing?
Speaker 5: Mark's COKE again so i got, Some IN there SO
i got I got a i. Got, a question yeah
this is. Kind of funny. This happened today one of
my one of my students ASKED me if i knew,
any HOMELESS people, and, I said well i worked at
a Liquor, store on, CLINTON so yeah i did know.
As homeless people just why don't they just committed a
crime so they have a. Place to live this Is
a nine this is a. Nine, year old yeah, it,
ACTUALLY happened right i, WAS gonna say i.
Speaker 2: Think it.
Speaker 4: Does oh, yeah in, FACT back home i was, told
my parents like knew a guy whoever he was, kind
of homeless but every every year that the jail would just.
Speaker 3: Let him in that.
Speaker 2: Guy's name otis could be from.
Speaker 3: They know what they may have taken. That from television just.
Told me that well that.
Speaker 2: May MAYBE not because i think there Are guys well
i've often heard and YOU can and i think it
was Somewhat Depicted in shawshank redemption when the. Old, man
brooks yes when the old man got out and he
just couldn't make it on the outside and he hung
himself in the, Halfway, hanged himself? Yes thank, you and?
Uh what's that, he.
Speaker 7: Was institutionalized right that was, the, Only thing right it's
the only.
Speaker 2: Thing HE knew and i think some guys or SOME
and probably i would think The only experience i've ever seen,
was with men. But maybe anybody it's easy you have
a structured life. WHILE in jail i don't know about, yeahs,
like school yeah but but it just shows you when
you're left in. Your own devices if you don't have,
a REAL schedule you'll i, mean IT'S tough like, i
You know when i'm, IN between things i got To
make sure i'm going to the gym and doing this,
at these times because you need that. Kind of structure
and these guys. Just couldn't survive, and you're right it's.
The institutionalized life but say you're in there for twenty
five years and now you get out and now all
of a sudden there's technology and artificial intelligence and, all
this shit and you're supposed to. Get a. Die you
can't you. DON'T even know i can't even spell a.
Eyes NICE dude what.
Speaker 7: I would also add to that a little bit, that
you know with the, structure comes resources and we've talked
to a lot of people inside, that you know they
don't come from, the best background they don't have the,
best home life or there's literally nobody out there that.
Cares for them so when they come in and they're
dealing with counselors or drug addiction counselors, and YOU know
the map program and all the different things that resources
that we have, there for them they get to experience
someone who cares about them, and you know that could
play into. It as well they have a better life,
inside than outside. Which sounds weird and for people who
don't know and just think that it's still that old fashioned,
bars and, cold dark, dungeon you know it's hard for.
Them to picture but it's really not.
Speaker 2: That, Way anymore no and some are there jobs AND
things that i know in certain prisons there are jobs
like laundry somebody's doing. Or, something else.
Speaker 7: Yeah and the food and preparation. And all that we
did a big story on that how a couple of
people from, the food company a couple of the higher
ups quit right in the middle of one, of the workdays,
and you know the inmates and the deputy stepped up
to make sure that everybody. Got.
Speaker 2: To, Eat wow okay Well that's, what i'm, saying is
like there. Is that structure and here's. THE other thing
i don't know about the women, who ARE incarcerated but
i always save for the men a little piece and,
quiet at night YOU know, what i, mean lights. Out
no bitching nobody, Yelled, at you hey you didn't do.
The dishes tonight you, Didn't do it. Fuck yell.
Speaker 7: It.
Speaker 2: We're married bill did you ever.
Speaker 5: Think ABOUT man maybe i should JUST go appreciate i
should go rob a bag and.
Speaker 2: Go to prison did you EVER hear of i? Plead, The,
FIFTH okay no I NEVER thought i i thought about.
Going to jail it doesn't sound. Pleasant to me.
Speaker 7: How long do?
Speaker 4: People stay there how long do people stay in jail before? It,
becomes prison like is there like a certain years and?
Speaker 7: Years or months so typically you're stay in jail is up.
To a year if you're waiting to. Go to prison
there's some things that could make it a, little bit
longer but if you are sentenced, to the jail it's
no longer, than a year unless you reoffend and add.
On to that but it's typically no more. Than a
year so.
Speaker 4: There's not enough time for somebody to like become like
a like a like a kingpin or somebody like, that
in jail.
Speaker 2: Like, The BOSS yeah like i don't know like.
Speaker 3: How it works I'VE Never, Watched oz.
Speaker 2: Danny danny hear a.
Speaker 3: Lot of things.
Speaker 2: Danny said earlier what did? You say earlier i'm Going.
Speaker 4: To Ask, horfi watching oh it should be mandatory for
anybody who works.
Speaker 3: WITH a jill. I, was joking.
Speaker 2: NO he wasn't i don't think. HE was either i,
asked the question yet you did. It, JUST rhetorically oh
i prot.
Speaker 3: It up, Rhetorically. Go, ahead DEPUTY yeah.
Speaker 7: So i don't think to. Answer your question there's enough.
Time per se there, are repeat offenders and there's people
who've been there a couple of times with a lot
of what you'll get. Is, Gang activity right so people
who are connected in gangs that outside will still carry
on inside and they still, have that hierarchy, if you will.
Speaker 2: Of the gang what talk to me for just a
brief moment about gang. Young, SOME people Now i mean i'm, hearing,
like thirteen fourteen twelve in gangs with, face tattoo already that. Kind.
OF thing true i don't know if, you're THAT aware
because i know that would be more of. A city,
THING but.
Speaker 7: Yeah i mean if You Count the kia boys, AS
a gang i would say that's definitely true because you
got thirteen year. OLDS out, there i mean you had
eleven year old the other day in the city stealing
a car and, ran, SOMEBODY over right i saw that.
Speaker 2: On the.
Speaker 7: News yeah, wow but yeah we've, we've, had twelve thirteen
fourteen year olds committing all. Kinds, OF crime.
Speaker 3: Okay i believe you still little spinning in his?
Speaker 2: Grave? Right now? Huge? Right over, Huge, All right, well
deputy early any other fun things happening in the in
the Wide World. Of monroe county have a good lot.
Of good things we have any good? Things, For you.
Speaker 7: Yeah i'm trying to think of. It right now we've
got a couple of new exciting. Things coming, up you
know we're moving FORWARD with our riok and all the
technology grant stuff that's coming slowly. Moving its government so
it's a little bit a lot of red. Tape to
clear but once that's opened up a, little bit more
we're gonna show over, everybody about that and that should.
Be super exciting, the you know the real time crime
center to help track those thirteen and fourteen year olds.
And everybody else.
Speaker 2: Hopefully that sounds so that Sounds, a main wait explain what?
THAT is briefly a real. Time crime center this sounds
like something out. Of sci fi so.
Speaker 7: The easiest way to, explain, it is like LET'S take the.
Pga for example we had a headquarters set UP, at
the pga a, little command post, if you will and
all the operations were run. Out, of there well what
the reoc's going to do is it's a centralized location
that we can control, all of that not have to.
Move the building it's going to tie in hopefully all
the computer systems and are not computers with the camera
systems and all, public access cameras hopefully some license plate
readers that we're buying with the money that the, state
gave us and really just there's going to be analysts
that are working there and investigators that, are stationed there
and they're all just going to be working on solving crime.
Speaker 2: And weren't gonna get. It, WITH anything SEE i don't i.
Speaker 5: Don't get, it this guy this guy said and done
more than anything THAT'S happened when i worked. In the
CITY don't forget. I was robbed, i was robbed that gun.
In my face that guy freaking never. Got a rest he's.
Speaker 2: Still running around he robbed the place. A week after
and YOU know, What i, mean it's like it doesn't
it just seems like. It's it doesn't there's no sense.
Of resting wrestling they're going to.
Speaker 5: Be out again but it's it sounds like you have
a that, there's this plan and it sounds so, good
and perfect, and it's like that's what we need TO
hear because i kind of lost a LITTLE.
Speaker 2: Faith after, i was, robbed and yeah so that's kind
of this is that's a. Really good point that's a.
Speaker 7: Really good point, and that's, heartbreaking you know, for SOMEONE
who like i, always tell you most of us take
this job because we want. To Help people and i'll
tell you it's hard breaking to hear people say that.
They're losing Faith but it's i've also heard it from people,
on the inside like why are? We arresting people why
are we trying in the court or the? State or
whoever just, lets them go and because that's what we've sworn.
Oath TO do but i can't control if someone stays
in prison or what. THE sentencing is i can just
control doing my part, and MY job and i promise
The people that i'll do that the best. Of my
ability so, no matter what we're always going. To show
up we're always going to do the best we. Can
for you and that's where this is going, to be
nice because it's going to give us even more to
try to show and present when it goes to trial,
of you know if a person. Needs a timeout and don't,
get me wrong not everybody, needs a timeout and. That
we're not you never talked about Cash. Or money baillot's
does this person need a timeout?
Speaker 2: Because?
Speaker 7: They're dangerous right we got a thirteen year old out
robbing and stealing cars that that person needs to be
sit down for, a little, while you know and see
if we can get some help for them to turn. Their.
Speaker 2: Life, Around YEAH interesting well i. THINK that's great i
appreciate you taking the time and great job being on
top of all that stuff.
Speaker 7: In the, jail we, try you know and It's it's
again i've, already said it but it's it's, a little
heartbreaking right because we those of us who want to do.
The JOB well and i know a lot of those
men and women in the jail who take it seriously
and they bust their hump trying to protect people and
try to do the. Best they can so when something,
like this happens it's a black eye for. All of us,
and you know we got to work that much harder
to keep the communities trust, and you know show everybody
that we're here to do.
Speaker 2: A good thing, it is funny, because NOT funny but
i was just thinking about that today with their it
Seems like TWO like if i told you two different
headlines and one involved bad police officers and another, INVOLVED
bad priest i think we would automatically we paint with
a broad brush. Those, two categories well then they're all
bad and it's not true and, it's not fair and
especially when it comes, to the police because they're not
trying to cover things up as though maybe. SOMETIMES religion was.
I don't know i'm just saying YOU know, What I
mean and i think that the idea Of just being
you hear the word. Transparency a lot we hear, It
from ever oh we. Want complete. Transparency nobody really so,
the fact that, as you said there's an investigation and,
we're getting underway, and, people go well there's, Nothing going
on well we're telling you, we're doing something that something
will be coming out and you will, know about it
because that's that's the, that's, the deal right. That's the
deal you were elected and then, that's, the deal.
Speaker 7: Right and that's the THING we JUST i wish i could, Tell,
YOU more no i wish we. Could tell everything, but
you know if people have due process and the ultimately
it's more important to get these people, not necessarily arrested
but to make sure we get. All THE information and
i want to, say arrest everybody but we want to
make sure, that you know if, they're doing wrong that
they see the consequences. That, they deserved right just like
the conversation. We just had if someone's robbing you or,
stealing from you it's a kick in the pants to
find out that they just get a slap on the
wrist or. Get let go and we don't want that
either if there's people doing bad things. In our ranks
so we want to make sure that just like, those
other criminals they get. What they deserve.
Speaker 2: Everything else good. In your life hockey seasons still going,
for you guys or we wind that.
Speaker 7: Down a well, for my family hockey season, ended YEARS
ago so, i, get nice peaceful RESTful. Time during that
kevin texts me every once in, a while though to
remind me of, that HE'S somewhere and i TELL him
that i don't, really miss, it, but yeah no, things
are good things are things are. Going well.
Speaker 2: Good, how. About, you guys oh, we've missed you we
haven't had hasn't been the same since You've been in
you gotta.
Speaker 7: Get you guys? Forgot, about, me no no up.
Speaker 2: And up never guy's been doing such. A good job
there's something. Talking, about it yeah.
Speaker 7: We had to arrest a couple of our own just
to have me. ON the show i. Keep this up.
Speaker 3: But you're transparent.
Speaker 2: That's the.
Speaker 4: Importance that is if you can Just go to albady
and clean house and the governor's manch and that.
Speaker 2: Would be, awesome Oh no that's dad.
Speaker 3: Just dand Talking that's.
Speaker 2: Just dad, Talking All right deputy Hurley will get jaddy
here before he. Says anything else.
Speaker 7: Thank, you anytime guys had. A great night you too nice.
Speaker 2: To see it, there he goes we, Got, breaking news.
Yes we, do go, ahead you can you. CAN tell.
It i know there's two things that are HAPPENING in the.
Nfl right now one of them Involves A former buffalo
bill who just SIGNED us what i will call. A
shocking contract. I'm super surprised.
Speaker 5: Nine million deals including a twenty. Dollars MILLION guarantees can i?
Speaker 3: Take, a, Guess Yeah yes stephan dick's Sign. With, the patriots,
YES holy cow. I nailed, it three year.
Speaker 4: SIXTY nine million i telled you did? Not tell YOU
what did i tell you.
Speaker 5: Do you think the dead team's ever gonna get As?
GOOD as, buffalo i mean does he think that that
there he's going to be a Thorn in.
Speaker 2: THE bill's side. I don't, know i mean. IT'S it's possible.
I don't know. I DON'T know if, I were him
i would Have. Went, TO miami well i DON'T know.
Speaker 3: If i would have got you gotta have a team
that's desperate enough to watch you.
Speaker 2: And then pay and, pay you.
Speaker 4: See that's what happens there's it's. It's a cycle good
teams Don't have.
Speaker 2: The what was his Deal?
Speaker 4: With the texans he HAD he had i think it
was like a two year or three year contract that
he could void out the.
Speaker 3: First YEAR afterward and i don't know.
Speaker 2: He re signed just wondering, WHAT money wise i don't remember.
What it Was And then russell wilson has agreed to Terms.
With the, giants oh wow so they're not Going to Draft.
Shud or sanders it sounds like still, MIGHT.
Speaker 3: Well, well, i, mean well Okay you got russ And You.
Speaker 4: Got Jamis, WINSTON jameis winston i mean. That's, enough headaches
yeah you Want to bring dion, Into this too.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that was the headline that just came
Screaming across My Uh it's. Russell, WILSON time yeah i
just want. To, make sure. Yeah Breaking news russell wilson
To Join The new york giants on a. One year deal.
One Year Deal so Jameis Winston.
Speaker 3: And russell wilson so this is a guy who's a big.
Fan of yours His, name Was juice and juice, is
a big big football.
Speaker 2: Fan and a.
Speaker 3: Really good gambler.
Speaker 4: He's really sharp But He goes RUSSELL wilson and i didn't.
Think about this he, brought this up and it's. A Great,
point russell wilson if he has, another bad year may
have played himself Out of The.
Speaker 2: Hall of, Fame, UH yeah no i was, thinking that
too because you you Were a super. Bowl winning quarterback
you should have won two super bowl should Have Won.
Two super bowls it, was his interception regardless of the play, calls,
his interception right you run the ball down the. Whole
fucking way you had. Best moo too but that's, a
coaching thing right unless Unless it Was Daryl.
Speaker 3: Play all pete carroll let. Him, do it belichick, by
the way said it was actually. The right, call of
course he did right.
Speaker 2: Call for him so then and then when he went it.
Just Fell, apart in denver he, DIDN'T do. Badly I,
THOUGHT in pittsburgh i mean he was. Six, and one,
no he was he was he was. The better choice
he was just. A better choice And so even.
Speaker 3: Tom, WAS like yeah i can't deal with either.
Speaker 5: Of you.
Speaker 3: Guys see it.
Speaker 4: And, by the way this is a dude who will
he will his front office will go out of the
way the draft problematic.
Speaker 3: Wide receivers that have done.
Speaker 4: It for years but when It Came to Russell Wilson, and, justin,
field no sorry well you'll do.
Speaker 2: It all right so we Then Assumed that aaron rodgers Goes.
Speaker 4: To the steelers we could assume that there's a there's
a there's a theory Out there that pat McAfee's putting
on this Big, deal in pittsburgh some big show is
gonna Go on, on april ninth and that's when.
Speaker 3: He's gonna come out like, The big here i've Signed.
With the, steelers but.
Speaker 4: Yeah this Is the other the other story is that
he may be waiting to See what the Niners Do
with brock Purty because brock perty wants fifty nine million,
dollars a year they'd be crazy to give.
Speaker 2: It to him he's.
Speaker 3: A game manager he is not like he's. Hit his.
Speaker 4: Ceiling he's not and, the, thought is well could you
get one Year Out of aaron Rodgers In, the bay
area his hometown and Go To a super bowl with
This Guy And Kyle Shanahan because aaron rodgers needs an
offensive minded coach. Whom he respects he's never respected any.
Of his coaches he needs a guy who he, looks
up to who he respects. To Coach Him, and mike
tomlin as respectable, as he is he's not.
Speaker 3: An offensive coach he's. A, defensive coach yeah.
Speaker 2: It's, like, McDermott, right well bingo but they've but they've won, but,
super bowls yes we, have? Not right right YOU know? What?
I mean Right I mean grant.
Speaker 3: Tomlin did It With mostly. Bill cowers, guys.
Speaker 2: But yes but did he do it? Twice?
Speaker 3: Or, no no he went to two, He won one
cower won. The first.
Speaker 2: One that's, Right, all right well we'll. TAKE a moment
i know you wanted to mention some things that. Were,
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Speaker 2: Come on this is so much it's so much cleaner.
And cleaner produced that. WAS just wrong i guess his
voice is, a LITTLE smoother but i like that rash.
Speaker 3: You got, one.
Speaker 2: Excuse me changed. Words on me. But never that it's nottrict.
Sounds like Shop IT just john i did Not Sell. Like.
Jo forricatto uh mark said that there was a. Couple
of things there was a real tragedy yesterday in The,
city of rochester Uh at the School. Of, the, ARTS
yes YEAH i.
Speaker 5: Wish i, had MY phone and i love my phone.
IN the car i have everything, out ALL there but
i just wanted.
Speaker 2: Don't want to. Get, wrong INFORMATION yeah but i guess.
Speaker 5: What happened was was a student went, on the roof yeah.
Speaker 2: And. Walked off YEAH from what i had heard kind of,
BEHIND the scenes i don't know. If there was, IF
it was i heard reports that are the transgender student
and that the principal was up there trying to talk
the kid off until uh like first. Responders got there
and as first, responders pulled up the student stepped. Off,
the roof yeah and died this morning and. Died this
morning and then the problem? Is this copycat was there? A?
COPYCAT today Yeah.
Speaker 5: I got Franklin i hope i'm. Right about that. It's
a city it was a city. Another, city school.
Speaker 2: Yeah so you want? To, copycat that well someone great idea.
Speaker 5: Copy cat could be for, Attention, to though yeah That's
What copy.
Speaker 2: So i'm assuming that they were able to prevent something
FROM happening because i didn't. Hear, of IT yeah and
I didn't Hear i saw and so, to your point
it may be, AN attention thing i. Don't really know.
Speaker 5: It, Usually, usually is yeah someone tells You that there
you ever see that One person on facebook to heat
his life and says he's?
Speaker 2: Gonna, KILL himself no, I have, several so anyways are?
Speaker 5: You? Kidding, me, so anyways yeah they really say that
and they're not going. To do it if you say
you're going, to kill yourself you want, people to.
Speaker 2: Go oh no don't they change it? To, you here no?
You did anything how do you how do? You Put it? In?
Facebook parlance though you can't say kill? Yourself and ended?
Or WASN'T there like i thought there was another, One.
Speaker 3: Off yourself hey this might be my.
Speaker 2: Final trip around the son.
Speaker 5: Was LIKE dot dot i hope someone takes care of
My cats when i'm gone.
Speaker 3: Dot.
Speaker 2: DOT dot no i thought, it, was like? Uh life
ending what? Do, they call no there was some kind
of term that the kids use that, was getting past
like the social media censors because, they don't, want you.
Know kill yourself so but maybe you. Do want it
maybe it's somebody's. Cry for help, you got, friends several
friends you just, Start to, go, god ahead yeah pretty much.
Speaker 5: TO kill yourself i told someone the ones just. TO
do it i was getting sicker reading ABOUT it.
Speaker 2: Because i know he's not.
Speaker 5: Going to commit it's the ones, that are quiet and
the ones that don't, be a quitter and the ones
that don't.
Speaker 2: Talk about it are the are the ones that you have.
Speaker 5: To, WORRY about yeah i. Bet YOU that and. I
don't know i bet you're. FIFTEEN years old i. BET
you that i don't think anybody probably had any idea.
Speaker 2: What was going on in. This, Person's head no i'm.
Sure not right but it's.
Speaker 5: The ones that you know are or trying to have
their kids get adopted because they're, gonna you know because
they're going.
Speaker 2: To end. IT that's right i don't.
Speaker 5: Get, TOO concerned yeah i feel awful, if, IT happened,
Though d way i'm, talking right now but.
Speaker 2: It hasn't yet how old? Is the person. He's like
sixty there's, two of them there's Two. On my facebook
really all. ARE great reads i go AND then then
i go on and. Rip on them and these people
must be really. Really hurting though, That's THE thing like i.
DON'T like that i. Don't, WANT attention, yeah i know
but they got to be hurting.
Speaker 4: In some way something, in their life is something in
the or they feel something in their. Life, is, missing
right well so this is their way of trying to
get whatever they think is missing, and filled, up which is,
by the way is never going.
Speaker 2: To be, filled love right you want to feel loved, and,
cared about right, like you matter you. Matter to Somebody
and then mark comes along tests, you don't matter.
Speaker 4: Has two, cats, she's, like HEY bro can i can't
kind Of Your car, joe, rica there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, mortgage twins, Ah, all right danny, That's, awful though.
Speaker 2: Yes it, is IT is and i don't mean we
kind of were kind of a different and THAT'S OKAY
because i i think that it's it, is the problem
and it is a problem in schools. Because there's bullying,
there's you know you're never the.
Speaker 3: Bullying never stopped.
Speaker 5: You're never, Gonna get away you're never going. Away from
it there's always, the mean girls there's always. The mean
dudes it's always gonna have and It's ALWAYS gonna Luckily,
I don't luckily i. DON'T see it i don't have to. Deal,
with that yeah but you, Get, That, HERE yeah no i.
Speaker 2: GET bullied here I DON'T think i'm i have to be, honest,
WITH you like i DON'T know if i really know. What, bullying,
Is Well, Well bill moran I'm plain ray eddy you
are you are the deafening. BULLY right HERE.
Speaker 4: I think i think you do know, what, that's like
see it's not going to go into specifics, on THIS
one but i think you do know what, Being, bullied,
is like oh. You've, BEEN bullied Yes i think billy
has been bullied a couple of times.
Speaker 2: In his life.
Speaker 4: Something you've talked about. On, this podcast, Yeah, being molested
yes that is. A formal bullying the other formal bullying
was well you were married? For, How long yeah i'm
not trying to. Be, A jerk yeah i'm not trying.
TO be facetious i watched that Relationship that wasn't.
Speaker 2: That wasn't bullying that. Was Freaking. Abuse jesus christ you
know today would have been. Let's, let's play uh Let's.
Speaker 3: Play, some, jeff, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: No no no hang. On A second WHEN i say
i don't know, WHAT bullying is i see kids picking,
on EACH other and. I know. What i think picking on. You,
is different, LIKE you know i WATCHED kids when i
was at, one. SCHOOL subbing right, i saw kids all,
of a, sudden one, guy, THEY like oh, i don't
know take the bo. Well here's ONE this WOULD i
think i would have gotten into a lot of trouble
today for taking the bottoms Off my, friend nathan's crutches
so he had. The rubber stoppers now he gets up
on the tile floor and he's got. The WOODEN things
now i stood behind him. AND caught him i put
my arms. Out like this that's so. Good, OF you
YES i mean i have to tour apart. His FUCKING
crutches but i stood BEHIND him and i caught. Him
from falling my, point is though but he could have
gone down. Like? Really bad right is that picking? On,
OR pranking okay i don't. THINK that's bullying i don't, doubt,
Your buddy right but the bullying would be.
Speaker 5: Like ripping on somebody if you don't want to go
if you don't want to go to work or go to.
Speaker 2: School because somebody hang, ON one SECOND i gotta i
gotta just take, This. Real Quick jamison w i'm trying to, do, a,
podcast buddy bro he's.
Speaker 5: WRECKING my, show, i mean, man, Come, on man, jamison
huh uh probably about.
Speaker 2: A half hour? What is that where SO where am? I?
Getting You, Wow Dan, So danny jamison it's one. Of
those things WHERE where am? I getting you? I think
everybody can you stay? There till then?
Speaker 7: My?
Speaker 3: First wife yeah?
Speaker 5: Are you, Sure, cool School okay, like tommy mulay?
Speaker 2: He's a bully? What? WAS he yeah i started Just
picking on there was a difference like bullying well over.
And over over there.
Speaker 3: Are people that he didn't necessarily need, to pick on.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 4: HE did okay i think it was mostly the people
his own size or.
Speaker 3: People, HE liked okay i don't think it.
Speaker 5: Was bullying, if it's true if he if he picked,
and he, liked YOU know.
Speaker 2: Like i mean is teasing like a buddy a kid.
ABOUT a girl i would think like if you started
calling somebody a pejorative that you can't use today about
their sexuality over and over, and over again that would
certainly fit the. Definition of bullying you're picking on somebody
for being different and trying to ostracize them and make
them feel bad about themselves. And all that where then
that same pejorative was used among our friends like. A,
love thing hey, and, you, know.
Speaker 4: Well yeah you had a guy who'd walk in room
every board to get five twenty and, Yell, out something hey?
Speaker 2: What's? Going? On blank yeah and it wasn't meant but,
like you know and so THAT'S where and i wonder and,
and THIS again is, i DON'T know, but i go are? We?
TOO soft no i made it too soft in some
direction and, not soft enough like we're talking we need
to differentiate the kids.
Speaker 5: Going, to school yeah and he doesn't want to go
and he's getting picked on. Him, for stuff yes then then. There's,
something wrong yes. There's something wrong. People are people, when
you know when a buddy of yours tells you you look,
like a thumb that's a kind of.
Speaker 2: Form of bullying.
Speaker 3: Who said he would look?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: A thumb bill? You Said? That mark thumb the.
Speaker 2: Guy who doesn't bully?
Speaker 5: Anybody who doesn't who doesn't the guy who doesn't know
if he bullies anybody CALLED told everybody i looked.
Speaker 2: LIKE a thumb i had.
Speaker 3: A program director told me That you and. Tommy were?
BULLIES who's that i take, A Wild.
Speaker 2: GUEST chris crowley. I, JUST did okay i got, him
a job. And you did he, couldn't KEEP it but i.
Speaker 5: Got him in so then he calls. You a bully
see you? ARE a, bully, i, Am WELL okay now i, Didn't.
Speaker 3: LIKE him, okay.
Speaker 2: I mean here's, the THING is like i never heard,
of this, guy you know who Was church of crowley.
Speaker 5: In the afternoon he, was wait minute he was your
he was he was. A program director that guy who
was program director from.
Speaker 4: My two STATIONS he programmed cmf AND He. Programmed espn
rochester see.
Speaker 5: That's the thing they want to piece people freaking ten to,
fifty an hour and that's.
Speaker 2: What, they get well. THEY paid him. I don't know
i think he was okay as a program. Director and stuff,
He was good but here was what Do you think?
I'm gonna say, BECAUSE you're. RIGHT i did i. Didn't
make things, FROM my perspective.
Speaker 3: I don't think i don't care who was going to sit.
In that chair odds?
Speaker 4: Are you didn't really you weren't going, to RESPECT him
because i think that when they came to you to
be the program director at one point, you, knew, that.
Speaker 3: Like okay what's gonna be better at THIS job?
Speaker 4: Than, I am anyway so no matter who sat, in
that chair Unless It, was stan maine didn't.
Speaker 2: Have, a chance okay at LEAST at. ER i can't
I can't say i didn't WANT. To be.
Speaker 4: Theo you didn't but one time you were approached for
that role you. Turned it down you were the acting.
At one point this is like the PRE this. IS
cbs days i wasn't. There FOR that and i think once, you, knew, that,
Like okay well i'm definitely the best person.
Speaker 3: For this job so no one who's gonna sit in
that chair is gonna tell me what to do or how.
Speaker 2: TO do it I didn't think i was the best person.
For THAT job what i wanted was someone to have
a backbone. IN that job i wanted somebody at who, His,
boss did? YEAH WHO'S that jt. JT was that i
wanted somebody with, balls IN there and i didn't want
somebody who is mousey, in my opinion or, unsure or
hey guy like that kind of shit always bothered me
because if you're putting a role Of leadership and i'm
supposed to step in, line to you you better have
some FUCKING balls otherwise i don't. Want TO play and
i know that sounds maybe. THAT is bullying, i don't know,
but this guy to me was like he was just
soft and unsure of himself and just didn't know and
he would get. Upset BY things and i mean when
he told me that he was on his gaming system
playing games online talking to his buddies about, me being.
Mean to him you lost, me, right there bro you
just fuck. Lost me forever i'm never. Listening, to you
yeah if you're that big of, insecurity in yourself that ain't. A.
Me thing motherfucker why that's.
Speaker 5: A youth thing why would he, Even, admit that well
he admitted it TO me, by i mean, why DON'T
know because i think it was.
Speaker 2: His way of trying. To, open UP yeah and i
will tell you that in twenty he was ahead. Of
his time in, twenty twenty five most, people, probably, go
hey man, You know. What you're, right i'm SORRY that's
what i. SHOULD have. DONE i, didn't i went YOU know. What,
I have no i have absolutely no. RESPECT for you i.
WOULDN'T say that i would be a gentleman and kind of,
go oh wow did? You say that? You? Said? That,
though RIGHT yeah well. I think NO one time i
wound up screaming. At this guy put on your fucking
big boy pants and figure it, the fuck out because
he everything was like. This Mousey thing and i'm not saying.
YOU had to. I get it there's politics you have
to play in. THE corporate world, i DON'T anymore but.
I get it. I see it there's a dance that everybody.
Has to do there's somebody who needs their ego stroked
and their dick whatever so they can feel. GOOD about themselves.
I understand that you know you're gonna all, Of a
sudden i'm, gonna Create this and i'm. Gonna, Do THAT
fine but i would also want somebody who's like sure or,
is gonna say not so, sure about that but, let's
try this YOU know. WHAT i mean i was never
a backbone. WITH that guy i WILL so if i
was a, Bully to, Him, I'm sorry danny i'm gonna ran.
All OVER this if i were a bully, to THIS
guy then i wasn't meant to be a. Bully to
him it WAS more like i don't. At that time
and it's coming back around for ME now where i
am losing, my patience intolerance not with, anybody in particular
but losing my patience. In, tolerance General yes because i'm.
Going fuck this i'm not playing by. These rules anymore
i'm not doing, IT because well i know what, to
DO here and I know, what I've done and, i've
MADE mistakes and i see patterns in MY life and
i can see them being repeated and, repeated AND repeated
and i can say that there's been some, other Outside
influences but i'm fucking done. With THAT shit and i
was done with that shit then because every day they
were basically until that. Guy came in we had sort of,
established ourselves then but they were all about you could be.
Out of here and, At the time i'm married and
have two kids and another one, on the Way Or
the jamison. Jamison, was There okay so jamison pops AROUND
and now i got all THIS shit and i, got,
you know well we don't know. What's gonna. Happen we,
DON'T oh fuck i, want TO win and i want
somebody who's got my. Back to WIN that's. WHAT i
want i want someone who's got my. Back TO win
AND i, knew jt DID but when, i saw THIS
and then i also knew he was hired because there
was a guy that he did think WAS good and i,
would HAVE respected and i thought he, was too powerful
he'll never. Get THE job and, I, was.
Speaker 3: Right yeah he liked. The, fire people sorry. Apparently that.
Speaker 4: GUY that's right i think that he eventually, after you
left grew into. Becoming that guy, he probably DID and
maybe i should have given.
Speaker 2: Him A chance maybe i should.
Speaker 3: Have given him were like the whole. LIKE bullying thing
i mean.
Speaker 2: WE were bullies, i mean yeah he. Once told, ME
he goes i feel like you're like the quarterback of the.
High SCHOOL team and i remember and you. Were standing
there you lose me every time, you say THAT because
all i want to do. Is fucking, Win that's it
like this is the old me. COMING out now i
just want to fucking WIN at. EVERYTHING i do i
want to put my foot on your fucking throat. And
bury you bad. Way to be i've softened that. A
little bit don't, mean like yeah but MY point is
i want. To fucking Win and when i'm in A
competition and i got shit going out, across THE street
and i got a new guy who came back and
he's talking all. Kinds of shit no matter what, ANYBODY
tells me i. Didn't know, that fuck. YOU it happened i.
Know IT did and, i WAS pissed and i wanted
someone on my team who's gonna, have my back. And
they didn't that guy wasn't the guy he. Thought he
did the only time it was kind of GOOD was
when i get called. Into a meeting this is one.
Of my Favorites opie and anthony used to DO a
thing i gotta get opian at, some point again they
used to Do this j october thing and they would
always pick on the country station. In OUR town oh i.
Know this story and they would do things like they
would play back like the. Previous day's show, around the
country they take any show that they thought was lame
and they would play back and.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: Funny i'm Sorry They.
Speaker 3: Did, kissing buffalo yeah they did a lot of different shows.
Speaker 2: Around, the country yeah so they do this one in
the town we. All lived in happened to be in
the building that we were doing our own morning show
in and so they do this and they had a
very large person, on the show, very nice. Person very sweetheart.
You got it and somebody stopped The Tape in jim
norton at one point, because THEY go it's.
Speaker 3: I, run the line what was it it seven fifteen.
Speaker 2: And he goes it's seven fifteen on the bee and
then again with her, weight right. Right, that's uncomfortable okay
then that's that. Would, be bullying. Yes that's buying i'm
picking on you about something, different ABOUT you and i.
Don't know you i'm just doing, it because right.
Speaker 5: And, it's a person it's, Very well liked yes In
in your.
Speaker 4: And it got to the point where she was Getting
harassed like wegmans when she got.
Speaker 2: In, PUBLIC week well i. Didn't know That i'm just
i'm just. Spading the Picture so, what so now then
they started having their listeners attack those stations websites and
they put disgusting porn things and they were shoving things.
In her ears this as, Bad, as, stern, yes, worse
worse worse and They. Called it october they Did. It,
every october okay so now they've gone so far because
it happened a.
Speaker 3: Year after year after year station.
Speaker 2: That this station got smart and. They protected everything They
got their facebook like. Everything. Was, perfect okay well there
was a guy who was on the show, At, the
time jeremy and he Was watching the twitter Feed of
The opie and anthony show and AN intern WHO i
said i didn't want in the building was on his
way out to deliver. Signs for us we had these,
elect you know the the first thing you put out,
in the morning wasn't that The? Show for yes so
we were, This IS whatever so i uh sent him out,
to do that and on, the way out they had
a bench. In the lobby they used to have. Benches
on parade they painted the bench and they painted the
bench with the star of, the morning show who happened
to be. The large person and they called it the
flat Like a flat stanley and where. You were at
so they painted these flat things. Of that person, they
looked ridiculous and they had? Did they not, It looked
ridiculous and they had it in the lobby of. The
radio station and this kid took a picture and sent it,
to opian anthem are? You fucking kidding? Inside the building
from inside The building inside and he was and he
was an intern with the own. A, show PRIOR okay
so i HAD already said i, don't WANT him and i.
Speaker 4: WAS on them i didn't, want him either but he was, kind,
of like well you, you want help you can't bitch about.
Speaker 3: Not Getting out, so i'm, like you know a four headed,
monster BACK there.
Speaker 2: They, I get uh Tommy's Doing his. Coach mulely bit
this is some great Behind the scenes if you ever
LISTENED to see mf back, In The way coach mulely.
Is not real in the, twenty tenths so and he
would do it from the green room across from this.
Country station studio and he comes, back, and goes bro we, got.
A problem, Man he goes jeremy's flipping. Out down there he's,
gonna kill somebody and blah blah blah about this kid
sent a picture to own a. Of that bench so he's.
Given HIM ammunition, and i, went OH boy, AND i,
go i go what? Do YOU do BECAUSE i don't,
I don't. KNOW i said i WENT down and i,
talked to them and he's, screaming and yelling and the
person who is the subject of, all this, SAYS very
calmly i just want to have a chance to talk to,
that young man to let him know all the pain
that has been caused over the years. With THIS right, so,
i said Great the old nietzschee theory philosophy put a face.
To the pain you won't do it right a. LOT of,
times i mean if you could actually picture the, person
you're hurting maybe you. Wouldn't do. IT that's true. I
feel bad let's feel. Bad About it. That's NIETZSCHE'S theory
so i call this kid and tell him to get
his ass back here and he comes walking in and
we were just wrapping up an interview with the BACKUP. Quarterback.
Speaker 3: For, Ej Manuel, YEAH kevin cobb i think maybe It.
Was Sad Lewis sad Lewis, lewis sad, lewis that's right
had To. Be Sad lewis kevin cobb didn't get To.
The seasons God.
Speaker 2: So, thad lewis is we wrap it up and the kid.
Comes in door we always left the door open. To
the hallway and the kid comes in, and he's LIKE what? What?
I DO man and i guessed. To always see, he
was like what do we? Call him tree because he
took acid Or something if i'm. Remembering this correction so
he comes back and he STARTS talking, and i go
we'll get to you. In a second let's. Wrap this,
up and uh we're about to go to break and all,
Of a sudden jeremy is pounding on, The glass Screaming
i'm gonna i'm. Gonna kill you but why did we?
Speaker 4: Close the door we closed The door as Tommy said
he jeremy would be on, the war path and we
never had. The door close we, closed the door and
then he, WAS he goes i, got an answer and
for you and.
Speaker 2: My. Glove, body no no he started pounding on the
door and he's, Screaming at him i'm going to. Kick
your ass i'm. Gonna kill you i'm gonna. Kick YOUR
ass so i said to you. OPEN the door i go.
Open the door now our, MIC's were on. IT was
live i go. Open THE door, And, i said jeremy
come in here and we will. Have A conversation, and
tommy's going don't. Open the door i'm one hundred and,
Thirty pounds GUY how can? I get kids.
Speaker 5: Do?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 3: Remember, This yes.
Speaker 2: Okay so all this. Is going on so then we
COME back and i talk about, all of it but
you hear him on. The Air pounding, then i'm going where's?
The pussy management because, no one's calling like. Our hotline's
ringing but then. It's, not ringing, right they disappeared and
that was THE ship that i, couldn't stand that right
there is an example of. Really bad. Management you had
an employee, was, pounding threaten which, by the way that
wasn't the first time he actually threatened, a show no
but pounding on this thing AND threatening and i don't
give a fuck play this for anybody because it's all
true and, pounding on it and then HE did say
i have my answer for you, and the GLOVE and
then i walked the kid out, the FRONT door and
i get a, CALL later.
Speaker 5: On i get called into a, meeting just, me just
me and you get in. Trouble for it it's something.
This asshole dad.
Speaker 2: Well that WE that because i, TALKED about it i.
Made it worse and then we came back from break
and took, calls about it what's going on and saying,
all this stuff and we probably did another half. Hour,
forty MINUTES yes and i get called into a meeting
with the star of, the other show the woman right
and me and, the general manager, my program director and.
The operations manager and.
Speaker 4: We also got calls before that while we were talking
about it to not talk about.
Speaker 3: It, from management yeah, and you're like what put him.
Speaker 2: On the air let's put him. On the air what?
Are we doing we don't do THIS kind, of i
mean you just had a guy pounding on A glass
and i'm not going to. Talk, about that yeah you
got a GUY screaming and i did make. No fucking
sense so that was but that was when the heat
came to, me, AND said listen i. Got your back
but they want to. Have THIS meeting so i go
into the meeting and we sit down and they let,
her talk first, AND she says i am so upset
and so, hurt that, you you know you don't understand
what this is and what they've done to me. Over
THE years and i was followed in, a, parking lot
wegons don't make me laugh and, all this, stuff see
bully but all, This Stuff right and i'm Sitting there
and i'm, listening to it and she stopped and they
look at, me and go what? Is, your response okay
so you let. THE intern in i told you this.
KID wasn't good i wasn't the only one. WHO said
that i don't want him to. Be my intern he
had been in an intern on another show in town
and the, own A show, AND i go i. WANT
the kid i had, met with him but they forced.
Them on us so now. It's my fault. IT'S my
fault i didn't. TAKE the picture i. Didn't DO it
so i SIT there and i say to, this this person,
THIS lovely, person i said this were a private conversation
with JUST YOU and i i would. LISTEN to you
i Would tell, YOU i'm sorry i give you a
hug if, you'd Let me and. I'D walk, away, i
said however we're sitting here, with my bosses the, GENERAL manager,
included i said and you're not going to like me
By the. Time i'm done, and, SHE said well i
just don't understand why you have to. Talk ABOUT it,
and i SAID you and i do completely different. Styles
of radio you don't even use. Your real name that
is not. Your REAL name, and, i said, so right
there we're. ON different, levels i go and we, talk
about everything and especially something like this when it happened,
IN the, moment i said, so to SAY why did
i talk about It is asinine and it had nothing
to do With perpetuating. Owen a's thing it had to
do with the reaction to it and the intern who
we didn't even want. To BEGIN with, and, I go
so i'm sorry you, Had THIS pain, BUT i go
i am defending myself and saying that this is not
my fault or my. Responsibility in this this. Is absolutely
ridiculous and, at the end the boss of, that company
says or the, person in charge the, GENERAL manager said
i still think you didn't need to talk about it,
on THE air, and i said spoken like someone who
was never sat, behind the microphone and the thing that always.
Fucking amazed, me even there nobody else operations manager, program director,
said hey man you heard what she said to almost back.
Up her authority no one said. A fucking word they,
were absolutely spineless and THAT is what. I couldn't stand
so if that made, me a bully made. Me, a Bully, Sorry,
long ran.
Speaker 3: No you're in a bully.
Speaker 2: In, That, Situation no no i'm just, saying in general
it's not like you got fucked over. In THAT situation
well i DIDN'T get, fucked i mean well you don't
want to. Work, there all YEAH that.
Speaker 4: Moment i realized, AT that MOMENT i realized i didn't,
say ANYTHING about Like i think.
Speaker 3: Billy's done here.
Speaker 2: That was that was pretty much the star that broke,
the camel's back because it, was after.
Speaker 3: That was it? Three months?
Speaker 2: Later?
Speaker 7: You?
Speaker 2: WERE yeah gone i didn't want to not. Even, THREE
MONTHS no i i. LOOKED for now i called my
agent THAT night, and i said get me, out of
here get me. Out of here do you still have?
AN agent. Now i don't but he just liked all
my ship, the other day, so all.
Speaker 4: Right cool, cool december, seventh twenty thirty the day that
will live in.
Speaker 3: Him For me bill morand did. His last broadcast. I'd
see him it.
Speaker 2: Was that Night it.
Speaker 3: Was wednesday night it.
Speaker 2: Was our party it. Was, our party oh then. You,
were VACATION yeah and I went to.
Speaker 3: Florida, after night yeah when we didn't know IF you
because i knew you.
Speaker 2: Weren't. COMING back yeah i had had. IT with them
i had had it and AND maybe. MAYBE i. DIDN'T
i don't i.
Speaker 4: Think FROM that moment i think The gentle and crowley we, were,
TALKING about actually i think from that moment that was
he grew a spine and he became that guy that
you that you wanted to have FOR us. WHEN jt
left i MEAN he was jt was there, when we were,
he was there. He HIRED him but i think he became.
That guy afterwards.
Speaker 2: Someoney just goes choking and fire in one, episode, AND
thummy YES i get i. Just that STUFF really just.
Speaker 4: I don't know do, you think that not to take it,
off this subject but sticking, with the subject do you
think that bullying could be like like.
Speaker 3: A flu shot, in other words you.
Speaker 2: Get a little bit.
Speaker 3: Of, the infection yeah but it. Prevents, THE effection listen i.
Speaker 4: Think we all have to like like like some Great
People like elon.
Speaker 3: Musk was bullied, as A kid and i guess what we?
Got from.
Speaker 2: THAT you Know I. LOVE bill BURR i love I
Fucking love Bill bi bil burr has lately gone on
an absolute tear, and he's going he's. Going on, everybody,
he's going yeah, But he's, going he's, Like look what
you're gonna move out. Of the country you're one of the.
YOU'RE gonna leave I. Hate the democrats where? You, gotta
go no.
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: Are you doing, My car on we're still got another.
SEGMENT to, go i know don't. WORRY about it i like. My,
car warm, yeah, he's like, uh he goes what? Are
we doing we're afraid of a guy with a laminated face.
And hair, plugs he goes, you know what all those
years that those women were talking about the frat boys
and the guys with their hat back to make them
to toxic masculinity, and all that and we tore, Those
guys down we made we forgot. About the nerds fucking
nerds taken over and this. Is the problem that is
so funny and it's so and. IT'S so true. I
don't Know i think trump's doing.
Speaker 5: A great job he got rid of my gas, prices
are down and you Got rid.
Speaker 2: Of rosie, O'Donnell so far I have no i have no. Problems.
WITH this look i have SAID many times I did
not i did not pull the lever. For THAT guy
but i hope everything goes well and we'll so. Far
so good are we gonna put? A tariff on i
really feel like although we're starting to see little little,
hints of, it little hints like there's little hints of
like the artist, in what, town she's horrible horrible. At
her job. She does it but there's been a little
less of The crazy with trump. In this version like
there's some serious, he's very, measured he's done he's. DONE
some serious i mean. There's, some, things look man you
Know our our the last guy to balance The. Budget, was,
clinton yeah right got us. Down, To, zero well mark
maybe he.
Speaker 4: Does it again well, During The pandemic mark maren like
did a stand up and He. Didn't mention trump but
because you know what we're going, to talk, About, he
goes okay what.
Speaker 3: Do you do now what?
Speaker 2: Did? He?
Speaker 3: Say now right and that was every day in the
first in. The first presidency every, day you're, LIKE you
know i want to root.
Speaker 4: For this, guy but man if he just kept, his
mouth shut but if he just acted like the Guy.
From the apprentice now he's acting like the Guy from
the apprentice, a.
Speaker 2: Little bit there's still SOME of the i love when
a little bit, gets, yeah, yah yeah yeah a little,
bit of Spice a.
Speaker 5: LITTLE trump, space i mean for the first little, his
first term we were WATCHING a reality tv show was happening.
Speaker 4: In, our lives like he didn't expect. To be president,
he wasn't prepared he didn't. Want the job that's why
he settle the stupid, stuff he said and.
Speaker 2: They, got elected, Right all right we'll. TAKE a moment
i just sometimes think maybe a little, bit of shame
just a little, bit to touch a little, bit of
shame a little. Bit, of bully yes that's. All all
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Speaker 3: Somebody's. FAMOUS piano danny i don't know if.
Speaker 2: You know THIS mark and i had we had started
this the last segment in like went. On, a rant yeah.
Felt good though it did like being. Back, to me
yeah coming, back To. MYSELF bully billy i just LIKE
it when i you know, What it IS it's, Like
i go i've listened to too many people, for Too
Long and. I'm i'm done AND Then WHAT i and
i don't need to say. THAT to anybody, i JUST
did but i don't need to say that to. ANYBODY
in particular i just SHUT down and i will figure
this out on My own and. I'm going quiet. And,
that's it well.
Speaker 4: That's the, approach you TOOK because WHEN i realized i
listened too many people, for too, LONG you know i
started doing listening.
Speaker 2: To, OTHER people NO i, DON'T i KNOW i don't
I know that i have. Had my. DISTRACTIONS i'm done i, gotta.
Speaker 3: Tell you, man, this podcast though has Been a. Blast
i'm glad i'm.
Speaker 4: Glad we reconnected this has been this has been a
real joy. In my life yet, not, two years yeah
almost three years from two and. A, half Years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or december bro we got to have a huge Concert.
Like a woodstock you should right out here in the
parking Lot Of the. Marking twins, Job You, KNOW joe
RAKA i.
Speaker 5: Know I could get i could. PROBABLY get both i.
Know you could they might Not come. Because i'm here.
Speaker 3: Bridge wants to get.
Speaker 2: Back to Him yes, That, I'D like, yeah i white my.
Speaker 3: Wife, Will play.
Speaker 2: Okay now that's a woman. That can.
Speaker 5: Sing thank you just because she didn't have if four
chairs turn around doesn't mean.
Speaker 2: That she's not you know that. THEY'RE better singers i
Think that they they say they had the most watched
audition in. Reality singing shows all. THAT fucking bullshit. I
think they i.
Speaker 3: Could see it you.
Speaker 2: WANT to watch i think they have thirteen two blond.
Speaker 3: Beautiful twins, GRAPES.
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah i, mean i'm creepy but it didn't.
Speaker 3: Think ABOUT all the i want, To, Say, something mark mark.
Speaker 4: You'd know this think about all the female sportscasters who
don't know. Crap about, sports But man they're twitter followings.
In the millions why because they're nice. To look at
but the ones who we actually know. Something they're.
Speaker 5: Following i'm sorry i'm all about talent when it comes
and my music and. Stuff like that THE market is
i don't need to freaking, uh you are and you
need two blondes with big tits, to, freaking sing sing
freaking up who.
Speaker 3: Were running country bands in town before country bands in town.
Speaker 2: Became a Thing, Thank, you dan Wow. He was wow
it Was That.
Speaker 3: Or daisy.
Speaker 2: Gun that's right people never. SAY nice, things, i know
right he, doesn't, bully me no but he's. But HE'S right,
ANYBODY i took i. Took two bands that WAS two
bands i.
Speaker 5: Was, WORKING with yeah i had one band that was with,
a girl SINGER and then i had Another Band with
paul cummings was a country singer and he's a, traditional country,
singer YOUNG kid and i talked him into getting a
rock band and. Doing Modern country, and dan's right it
was right when modern country, started coming out before it,
became a thing before he became as popular. As it
is so the first night that they Played, at the
ruse now that's how. Long it was, it was not
which is three people over there, two months later line, Out,
the door wow line. Out the door and then you
know he, was you know he was, an you know
he Would go to nashville and record and.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that he always liked.
Speaker 5: His, traditional but man going out there, and you know
doing the modern stuff was, always you know it.
Speaker 2: Was always GOOD in, the dz gun.
Speaker 5: Which we had it was the first band that it
was mine and, my brother's band and we.
Speaker 2: Got kicked out.
Speaker 3: What his brother's a hell of? A bass player what did?
Speaker 5: You play me And Fucking uh Lori Parks, Or tracy partridge?
Speaker 2: You're off again his Brother Looked.
Speaker 4: Like, travis tritt yeah you could Easily Mistaken for travis tritt.
Speaker 3: In the, NINETIES you KNOW.
Speaker 5: I was I was the i was. Manager, and booking
okay and you got, Kicked, out, too yes man they
got both for. Both of us do you?
Speaker 8: Drink?
Speaker 2: ENERGY drinks. No i can't you can't know why my? Heart, will, Explode,
really okay DANNY do you.
Speaker 3: I won't refuse i.
Speaker 2: WON'T do it I have had i've, had, red BULL
okay and i sometimes FEEL better after i Have. A
red Bull i've always i've. Always BEEN suspect now i
Used To do red bull and. Vodka years Ago but
red bull, and vodka Yeah well red bull that was
like That was when. Centers, was Open well.
Speaker 5: Red Bull And deep betty lemon is your. Original HELMING
shot oh i. Didn't, know That Yes, Red Bull Deep
eddy limon Splash. Just sprite wow no, one could sleep
so they change Into, a fuck hilman which is just
FROM all at.
Speaker 2: Btv, my, FRIENDS yes.
Speaker 4: Well i remember CHANNEL Thirteen of a dawson when, he
was there did a story about red bulls in vodka
and how they. Could, kill you yeah because it makes the,
heart pump harder but the body's worn down because. You're
drinking alcohol so. It's like two it's like it's like
doing like speedballs basically in.
Speaker 7: The.
Speaker 2: Alcohol version right SO that's why i ask our energy
drinks short of. The Hidden Killers but mountain do considered. An,
ENERGY drink well, I always said mountain. Denk you do,
it's highly caffeinated.
Speaker 3: But it's not an energy drink like energy drinks have
like tourine and.
Speaker 2: TEA called IT i think i Called red to jackson
who Always Wanted. A mountain, do i go don't don't start.
Speaker 3: That stuff and now he's because you, listen to you.
He's six' eight that's the.
Speaker 2: Crack, FOR the stupid no i didn't. Know, you drank.
Speaker 3: It yeah it's. It's horrible for you. It's terrible for
you like monster energy drink.
Speaker 2: IS awful for you i used. To it hangover juice
so there's a Twenty eight year old Florida Teacher. Name
is katie donald she was, the picture of, health truly,
clean eating dedicated. Workouts pretty active lifestyle those are the.
Ones that go down but had a three energy drink
a day habit combined with caffeine supplements, and, yeah she
uh yeah well she had a sudden and fatal or
huh there had. TO be something more i don't know if,
SHE was with friends i don't know if she, was
doing energy drinks but her eyes rolling in the. Back
of her. Head she went down they had to take.
Her off life support it was her heart and her.
MOM is convinced that i don't know that, doctors are
saying it but the pre workout supplements and a lot
of times, in the workout supplements caffeine. Is a big
thing is to, try to you know you get yourself, going,
and you go. Man you watched that it's kind of
the dark side of the fitness culture that, isn't, REALLY
talked about right.
Speaker 4: I mean energy drinks i don't think anybody who knows
anything about fitness is going to recommend.
Speaker 3: You drinking energy drink that.
Speaker 4: Stuff's like it's liquid, it's like liquid coke and it's,
not good liquid cocaine and it's. Not good for you
do you remember about twenty years ago when the hydroxy cut. Phase, was,
going through yeah okay do you remember a Picture for
the red wings went Out Of, The, oils steve beckler
yeah he died in spring training and they that it
was a fedron that. Is what killed him and they
linked the feder the hydroxy cut and all these. Other
like dietary supplements he. Kind of the joke. IT wasn't
a joke i was working with a guy Who Filled.
IN for brad davies i won't say his name because,
he's still in town and it. Was an honest, mistake the, first,
hour he goes Yeah, this guy's a beckler guy's a.
Little bit of trouble he, reports the camp. Overweight blah
blah blah.
Speaker 3: THEN the next.
Speaker 4: Hour espn comes across. We Have an update steve beckler
found dead in a hotel. Room at spring training and
the guy, walks, in the road go did? You hear
the update the guy we made fun of him the?
Speaker 3: First hour, is? Dead he goes what so we got.
Speaker 4: A reporter on, to talk about it and Then we
talked to mason about. It and everything else and then
months later we found out it was because of a fedron. And,
it killed him yeah and so because he was trying
to like. Get IN shape faster and i think this woman,
to make a, correlation and uneducated correlation like with the
energy drinks and the dietary supplements that your heart can.
Speaker 2: Only take so much, he's got. Pre workouts fat burners
you don't eat all that.
Speaker 3: Stuff, healthy and exercise.
Speaker 2: No you don't even. Ever fucking do that let me.
Speaker 5: Give you an example my freaking at uncle are, in,
their late nineties right all their. Kids are still alive
they Lived, Right next to kodak like when you when
you would come, Out of their house, kodak was right.
Speaker 2: There right right there.
Speaker 5: They're still still alive they're all still kicking, to eat,
like shit, they smoke you.
Speaker 2: Know stuff like.
Speaker 5: That they're all kicking. My brother is healthy my oldest brother.
Is healthy as all he he had an aneurysm walking
his dog and he's health and he was healthy almost someone.
As healthy as him.
Speaker 2: That happened to. Him it's the hereditary you can't help
if that's.
Speaker 5: Gonna happen or NOT so but so i think that's
why my. New thing in life i'm GONNA fucking. Drink
when i want i'm. Gonna drink mountain dew i'm. GONNA have,
a cupcake, i might you know if someone wants, off
from you.
Speaker 2: Know ice cream cake i'm not. Gonna See no anymore.
Speaker 4: Wren buffett eat. A McDonald's every day it's a, THREE diet.
Coke Lunch, I, think warren.
Speaker 2: Buffett, yeah who's like ninth the fifth richest.
Speaker 4: Man, in the world yeah like he's like. Eighty nine
Years Old. He, Runs berkshire hathway.
Speaker 2: Well i'll say this we hear a lot more today
about anxiety and. People having severe anxiety and then we
look around and take the energy drinks out of the
equation and tell me what goes on on every corner
Of every major. City, starbucks, Coffee shops yeah right and
so we are pumping youth full. Of sugar and, caffeine
SUGAR and caffeine and i just wonder If which does
what it raises your anxiety. Or get the jitters you
hear people say they get the jitners, From COFFEE and
stuff and i just wonder if it's caffeine induced anxiety
or truly a medical, disorder IN some ways because i
can't tell you The number of especially, i'll say younger people,
and more than that probably young, women get these fancy
big ass they practically three point five percent financing to
walk out, of the coffee joint right, because they're so
expensive and a lot of those, things are with caffeine and.
That JUST raises everything and i don't know how many.
You're having to day.
Speaker 4: They're starting to find more and more than anxiety. Is
a gut issue if. You control your gut your gut, is,
your second brain right.
Speaker 5: And that was, your oh forget it your gut IF
you IF you I thought i thought i thought.
Speaker 2: Another body part.
Speaker 4: Was, your, other brain, yeah okay so women let's talk with.
Women for. A, set your stomach yeah your stomach is.
Actually your second brain so you need to make a healthy.
Environment for your stomach a good, microbiome for your stomach
because that's what creates all the anxiety that goes. Up
into your brain everything gets filtered through and eventually ends up.
In the brain somehow so they're saying that anxiety is
also caused by a lot of. The, food we eat
well what's in? The, food we eat well. Look at
the labels if you stay, out OF the aisles because
i you, stay in the aisles you're gonna get all
those chemicals that are going to create that horrible bacteria
in your gut that's going to go to your brain and.
Speaker 3: Cause anxiety and. Depression, not to mention, oh by the
way caffeine.
Speaker 2: Raises, your heart, rate yeah and look. WE all do
it I enjoy coffee and i'll have another coffee, sometimes
in the afternoon and. Not a great idea i'm probably
very sleep. DEPRIVED all, THE time i. Know, i don't
know uh coffee.
Speaker 3: Is, good for you yeah.
Speaker 2: You can't abuse it you can't like. Have, LIKE four
coffees well i have like four, Cups, in the then
yeah four cups you just wish, OUT to green tea
i should well cup, That's, kind of well no you.
Speaker 3: Could get it with lemon and stuff one cup of
coffee and like two. Cups of green tea green tea's.
Speaker 2: Ruined Because it's stupid shot. Mark? A, green tea shot?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: What is it? MARK what's the Green, i think. It's
uh it's jamison and.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's a legitimate.
Speaker 2: Okay it's not healthy if YOU go to.
Speaker 3: B tv in, order of green tea they're not, gonna, hand, you.
Speaker 2: Like no no.
Speaker 5: He ordered green tea they'll, they'll they'll, be happy green
tea green tea.
Speaker 2: And. A fuck hillman. Uh, I don't know look i'm
sure we're gonna see more of this stuff and maybe
things going on tragic with this, young LADY for sure
but i would hate to here's what they. DON'T want
to see i don't know that there should be more,
regulation than energy drinks and that would. Be the, NEXT
step and yeah i want to keep the. Government education
of them but we live in a world where you
should have the freedom if you do and just, make.
Speaker 4: A wise choice, Right I know that like i tend
to lean more on the right, side, of the ledger
okay but there's a lot of stuff going on about,
snap and, how like you know they should be able. To. Buy,
healthy food Not look if it's america and we have
this program to be able to buy whatever they want
with the. Stuff, they have period okay if they want,
to buy junk. Food knock Yourself out. I'm, a i'm
no well they're talking about regulating it so that people
WITH snap coupons and ebt can, only buy healthy food
which sounds like a. Great idea in theory but if
you believe in, the idea of freedom you can't, contradict,
yourself and say yeah but even if it. Is, your tax,
dollars yeah but no If, we Live in america keep.
AMERICA free for everybody i like.
Speaker 2: THE organic pop tarts i didn't even. Know, they made
them yes you. Know what they are they're the pop
tarts we eat. When we were kids oh not the shitty.
Ones they make now, and they got. Cheaper we got
smarter they're going to read the labels and keep it as.
Speaker 3: Few ingredients. As possible one ingredient.
Speaker 2: If you so good. I'll bring it in i'll bring.
Some in next week what other podcast could take you
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Speaker 3: STUFF yeah GOOD STUFF.
Speaker 2: I think, i i you know if you Still, want
me On. Mondays WILL do mondays but i kind of
like to do. Whatever you wanted to told. YOU whatever
you want i Think.
Speaker 5: You're, FULL on mondays okay. I think you are, that's
why it's. Like YOU know what Plus i have to
i'm the One, that CLOSES on mondays so I don't know.
Speaker 2: If i can get here, until it's. Six six, Six
thirty so okay.
Speaker 3: I'LL hear. ANY day i.
Speaker 2: Know i love you.
Speaker 3: I'm Open For.
Speaker 2: Business i'm bill moran.
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