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<v Speaker 1>Today we talk Leonard Lake and Charles nig two former

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<v Speaker 1>Marines turned collectors of women, in their Operation Miranda, a

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<v Speaker 1>sex slave bunker built for an imagined nuclear end times.

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<v Speaker 1>Were they just a lone duo of survivalists with degenerate

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<v Speaker 1>dreams or part of a twisted network. Could they've learned

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<v Speaker 1>these skills or developed these ideas through war? Was the

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<v Speaker 1>war brought home?

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<v Speaker 2>I need to explain. What I want is an office

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<v Speaker 2>shop sex partner. I want to be able to use

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<v Speaker 2>a woman whenever and.

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<v Speaker 3>However I want, And when I'm tired or bored or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not interested, I simply want to put her away,

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<v Speaker 3>lock her up in a little run, get her out

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<v Speaker 3>of my sight, out of my life. Save there's no

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<v Speaker 3>way around it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so often forced ed the lone wolf narrative, yet

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<v Speaker 1>on this occasion we're left with the revised duo of

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf's narrative. An amateur noticer of the patterns should pick

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<v Speaker 1>up on a horde of hints to the alternative as

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<v Speaker 1>we go through this story. Starting off, we begin with

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard Lake. He was born nineteen forty five in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>His parents split early. He was shipped off to his

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<v Speaker 1>strict grandma. There were insect rumors with his sisters, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a reports of his grandma even encouraging such

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<v Speaker 1>behavior with the photographer photographing of his sister's nude talk

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<v Speaker 1>of animal torture, killing mice by dissolving them. You could

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<v Speaker 1>see this as foreshadowing for what would later become of

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard Lake and his dynamic and his sidekick Charles nig

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<v Speaker 1>just much like he would get rid of corpses later.

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<v Speaker 1>He joined the Marines in nineteen sixty four tours of

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<v Speaker 1>duty during the Vietnam War as a radar electronics technician.

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<v Speaker 1>Later he had what was called a delusional breakdown in Denang.

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<v Speaker 1>He received psychotherapy and then a medical discharge in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one. Obviously, we should take a moment to know

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<v Speaker 1>all of this. For those familiar with the program to

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<v Speaker 1>Kill thesis, this strikes quite accord. His time in the

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<v Speaker 1>Vietnam War two tours is obviously significant. This is when

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<v Speaker 1>Operation Phoenix was a go, and this is where much

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<v Speaker 1>of the thesis for the serial curds of today, the

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<v Speaker 1>program to kill idea comes from. It's born from here,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, sprouts out from here. Obviously, the delusional breakdown,

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<v Speaker 1>the psychological, the psychotherapy. These are all things notes to

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<v Speaker 1>be made here. He moved to San Jose after all

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<v Speaker 1>this and enrolled in San Jose State Universe, dropped out

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<v Speaker 1>after one semester and chose instead the San Francisco hippie community.

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<v Speaker 1>He moved to a commune in San Francisco and got

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<v Speaker 1>married in nineteen sixty nine. The added when his wife

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<v Speaker 1>became uncomfortable after learning of him being involved with amateur

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<v Speaker 1>porn producing and starring, usually involving bondage or sado masochism.

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<v Speaker 1>For the next eight years, Lake lived at the Greenfield Ranch,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a fifty six hundred acre settlement near Kalpalla,

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<v Speaker 1>which is north of Yukaya. In nineteen seventy five he

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<v Speaker 1>found another wife who this time was comfortable with his

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<v Speaker 1>proclivities and also down to be involved. This was clar

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<v Speaker 1>Lynn Blas, nicknamed Cricket. Early signs of his dark vision

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<v Speaker 1>appeared with a bunker on the settlement grounds here being

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<v Speaker 1>in the early formation of it until the owner there

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<v Speaker 1>put a stop to it. Now there's another individual here,

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard's shadow, if you will. This is Charles Nigg Hong

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<v Speaker 1>Kong born in nineteen sixty he was known. He was

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly abused by his father. He was arrested for shoplifting

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<v Speaker 1>at fifteen, and at this time his father insisted he

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<v Speaker 1>go off the boarding school and went to the Benam

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<v Speaker 1>Grammar School in North Yorkshire, England. He was kicked out

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<v Speaker 1>for stealing. He later moves to the US on a

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<v Speaker 1>student visa in nineteen seventy eight and studies biology at

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<v Speaker 1>the College of Notre Dame in Belmont, California. He also

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<v Speaker 1>drops out very quickly after one semester. Soon after he

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in a hit and ron, and to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>a prosecution, he listed in the Marine Corps. He fakes

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<v Speaker 1>his documentation to be able to join at eighteen. This

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<v Speaker 1>is in nineteen seventy nine. He was later arrested by

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<v Speaker 1>military police for trying to steal automatic weapons from the

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<v Speaker 1>Canioa Bay Base armory. Hold up a moment that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>a whole like asset behavior to me. If you've been

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<v Speaker 1>following my show for any period of time, this is

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<v Speaker 1>these sorts of these sorts of operations of stealing of

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<v Speaker 1>weapons from military bases as a common hallmark you'd see

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<v Speaker 1>in these sorts of operations, odd behavior for any old

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<v Speaker 1>military member just to be stealing automatic weapons. He escapes

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<v Speaker 1>his court martial and he makes his way to North California.

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<v Speaker 1>Now how this duo met is through a nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one survivalist ad in a magazine two Broken Marines plotting

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<v Speaker 1>apocalypse bunkers? Is this chance or is this convergence of

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<v Speaker 1>groomed operatives? Of note here is that this is of

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<v Speaker 1>how other hidden networks converse. One freaking example I like

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up on my show is the examples in

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<v Speaker 1>the eye of the Chicken Hawk of how child trafficking

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<v Speaker 1>networks would utilize ads ads in backs of magazines. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>here is one that we are looking at right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Brother Paul's Ecumenical Missions. Now what this was

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<v Speaker 1>was Brothers Paul's Mission. It was a tax exempt youth charity.

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<v Speaker 1>It received donations in mail from sponsors who paid to

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<v Speaker 1>receive child pornography and in some cases visited the boys

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<v Speaker 1>on site. This is a pay to access brothel disguise

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<v Speaker 1>as a camp. You can see the ad here, and

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<v Speaker 1>as they say, symbolism will be their downfall. I think

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what I'm alluding to here is the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of occulting, occulting things, hiding things how symbols how they

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<v Speaker 1>can be revealed. And here is kind of a more

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<v Speaker 1>plane example or two plane examples of such. Also interestingly

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<v Speaker 1>worth noting here of is that an other there was.

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<v Speaker 1>This is ironic but likely unrelated. Who knows, maybe there

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<v Speaker 1>is a relationship relationship here. One of the victims that

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<v Speaker 1>we will that inevitably will come up here because spoiler alert,

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<v Speaker 1>these are some serial killers is one of the people

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<v Speaker 1>they killed was people the victim themselves placed a personal

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<v Speaker 1>ad in the local newspaper offering to give straight men

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<v Speaker 1>head uh. And it was reportedly Charles Nig who showed

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<v Speaker 1>up and answered the ad and killed the killed the

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<v Speaker 1>one who placed it. There was another person in the

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<v Speaker 1>house who placed him there. Odd story, but another person

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<v Speaker 1>responding to an ad so figured hey, odd irony here. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Nig had just escaped from a military prison and

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<v Speaker 1>from here he stayed at a motel Lake was now managing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is after they met up. He has eventually moved

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<v Speaker 1>into a house along with Leonard and his wife. In

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<v Speaker 1>April nineteen eighty two, the police arrested Lake and Nig

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<v Speaker 1>on weapons charges. Nig was sent back to Fort Leavenworth

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<v Speaker 1>for his earlier misdeeds. Lake jumped bail and started using

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<v Speaker 1>aliases in disguises as one on the lamb does. In

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<v Speaker 1>July nineteen eighty four, Nig rejoined Lake and his wife

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<v Speaker 1>after refinishing his sentence and being dishonorably discharged. In Nig's absence,

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<v Speaker 1>Lake moved to a cabin near Willseyville owned by his

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<v Speaker 1>in laws. Next to the cabin he built his dream Dungeon,

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<v Speaker 1>a concrete bunker with one way mirrors, restraints, torture tools

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<v Speaker 1>stalked for m ladies. These are sex slaves to repopulate

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<v Speaker 1>the post nuke. At that time, Lake and Nig began

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<v Speaker 1>kidnapping and murdering men, women, and children. Also somewhere in there,

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<v Speaker 1>Leonard murdered his brother and started cashing his disability checks.

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<v Speaker 1>These atrocities became known as the Miranda murders, after a

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<v Speaker 1>character in The Collector the book that inspired Lake. The

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<v Speaker 1>official narrative goes Lake and Nig killed the men in

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<v Speaker 1>infants immediately, but subjected women to aperiat of enslaved enslavement,

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<v Speaker 1>rape and torture before killing them. In the end, there

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<v Speaker 1>were at least eleven confirmed murders, but clearly more tapes

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<v Speaker 1>seem eerily detached performative cruelty, kind of much like Vietnam

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<v Speaker 1>military interrogators gone rogue, very much giving off mk ultra vibes.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a moment to look at some of the

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<v Speaker 1>excerpts from these very tapes.

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<v Speaker 4>I never arise was again there's any circumstance whatsoever that

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<v Speaker 4>leads me to think that you're even attempting to make

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<v Speaker 4>noise as the materials to whether I hear you or

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<v Speaker 4>anyone else issue. Julie Whipton very severely understand. I understand,

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<v Speaker 4>and having a little war within my selling between what

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<v Speaker 4>I wanna do and what we might call item. Is

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<v Speaker 4>the decent thing you do and for the moment, the

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<v Speaker 4>decent thing to do is when the South rest, if

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<v Speaker 4>your baby is gonna take be taken away?

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse yeah, I mean be be taken away.

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<v Speaker 4>Does a family done in pressment that doesn't have a baby,

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<v Speaker 4>you might take him a baby? Then the baby's dead,

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<v Speaker 4>like when mean they about one in the hall.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember you have a your baby is sound asleep like

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<v Speaker 2>a rock.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, you have a gabor or if you don't like it,

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<v Speaker 4>for that like you to put it in writing. It's

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<v Speaker 4>done just to get whatever would tell you you would

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<v Speaker 4>have passed out, you s move in life or some much. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>if you can thought of selling, what would you up?

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<v Speaker 4>Remember I have a lot of animals twenty two and

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<v Speaker 4>I would just assume start up with a nice firm.

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<v Speaker 1>With me right now to make you believe how serious

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<v Speaker 1>we are right continuing on. On June second, nineteen eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>Nig was caught shoplifting a vice from a hardware store

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<v Speaker 1>in South San Francisco. Officers noticed that Lake bore no

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<v Speaker 1>resemblance to the photo and his driver's license, which carried

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<v Speaker 1>the name of Robin Scott Stapley, a San Diego man

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<v Speaker 1>reported missing by his family several weeks earlier. Lake was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested after a gun with a silencer was found in

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<v Speaker 1>his trunk of his nineteen eighty Honda Prelude. At the station,

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<v Speaker 1>Lake was placed in interrogation room. We are where we

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<v Speaker 1>are to believe he killed himself via cyanide pills he

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<v Speaker 1>had sown into his clothes. Lake died on June sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>Lake's ex wife, clare Lynn Blase, cooperated with investigators, received

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<v Speaker 1>a legal immunity from prosecution. Side eyes should be given here.

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<v Speaker 1>You are not incorrect. You have done so. Nig, who

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<v Speaker 1>was never act you assistant, had skipped out on justice

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<v Speaker 1>yet again before was arrested in Calgary, Alberta. On July sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty five. A store security guard suspected to him

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<v Speaker 1>of shoplifting in got in a fire fight with Nig,

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<v Speaker 1>yet ultimately survived, apperending him. He served four and a

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<v Speaker 1>half years in the Canadian prison. He was fighting extradition

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<v Speaker 1>of the US and the grounds of the impending death penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>For those who aren't aware, if you are, many nations

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<v Speaker 1>will fight extradition when the death penaloty is involved, it's

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<v Speaker 1>essentially cruel and unusual behavior something of the like. In

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<v Speaker 1>ninety one, he was extradited to California, where he was

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<v Speaker 1>indicted on twelve counts of first degree. In February nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine, Nig was convicted of eleven of the twelve homicides,

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<v Speaker 1>six men, three women, and two male infants. Jurors deadlocked

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<v Speaker 1>on the twelfth charge, the murder of Paul Kosner, but

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<v Speaker 1>Nig was sentenced to death. As of July twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>Nig was incarcerated at California Medical Facility. The last execution

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<v Speaker 1>in California was in two thousand and six, twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>Gaviner Gavin Newsom's side and executive order placing a moratorium

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<v Speaker 1>on the death penalty in California. So don't hold your breath.

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<v Speaker 1>Was this ap apocalypse prepped or was this state sanctioned terror?

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<v Speaker 1>The Dave McGowan's thesis and program to Kill is that

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<v Speaker 1>many infamous murders are not isolated psychopaths, but instead products

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<v Speaker 1>of deeper systemic influences like military conditioning and intelligence related programming.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of these men had significant ties to the US Marines.

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<v Speaker 1>Their crimes kidnapping, torturing, and murdering at least eleven people,

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<v Speaker 1>including entire families, involved a fortified bunker stocked with military

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<v Speaker 1>grade weapons, restraints, and surveillance equipment. The abuse in dismemberment

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<v Speaker 1>suggests experience and understanding and mind control techniques akin to MK.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultra ritualistic and cult like aspects of Lake and Niggs

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<v Speaker 1>operation further aligne with McGowan's claims of occult involvement in

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<v Speaker 1>Creative anachronism described as a medieval moorship cult potentially involving sacrifices.

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<v Speaker 1>He claimed membership in a secret death cult in his

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, which is coven. Their operation Miranda was an

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<v Speaker 1>obsession spawned from a favored book, The Collector, a story

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<v Speaker 1>about a man who grows obsessed with controlling woman as

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<v Speaker 1>an offshoot from his bug collecting hobby, a plan to

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<v Speaker 1>create sex slaves, and a post apocalyptic bump bunker. This

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<v Speaker 1>mimic or mimic survivalist strategies with sadistic programmed elements, including

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<v Speaker 1>snuff like videos and an incinerator for body disposal. Now

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<v Speaker 1>McGowan suggests these components could be not random depravity, but

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<v Speaker 1>orchestrated behaviors tied to satanic or cult networks, often overlapping

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<v Speaker 1>with drug trafficking, as some victims were linked to metham

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<v Speaker 1>vetomine operations. Ultimately, the handling of the Lake Nig case

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<v Speaker 1>supports McGowan's broader conspiracy framework, where official narratives obscure larger

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<v Speaker 1>truths through cover ups, investigative irregularities, evidence tampering by Lake's

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<v Speaker 1>ex wife, unexplained delays in Nig's extradition and trial, missing

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<v Speaker 1>files in a gag order suppressing defense details suggests institutional

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<v Speaker 1>protection of hidden accomplices or motives. Police initially considered it

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<v Speaker 1>a cult or mass mer scenario beyond the duo, yet

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<v Speaker 1>the focus narrowed, ignoring potential ties to ritual abuse at

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<v Speaker 1>a local full rage club where Lake volunteered. In McGowan's view,

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<v Speaker 1>this reflects how serial killers like Lake and Nig serve

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<v Speaker 1>as pawns in a program system, their crimes, enabling societal

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<v Speaker 1>control while evading scrutiny of military intelligence origins. Obviously, this

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<v Speaker 1>is all very specially but this is just but one

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<v Speaker 1>data point in a deluge of data points in Dave

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<v Speaker 1>McGowan's Program to Kill. Many data points and patterns form

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<v Speaker 1>one thing's from sure, from marine misfits to architects of

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<v Speaker 1>the Miranda murders, Lake and Nig embody McGowan's warning killers

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<v Speaker 1>of symptoms of a program society monsters on marionettes. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you enjoyed this dive. Let me know what other

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<v Speaker 1>a little short dives in many many of these similar

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<v Speaker 1>such stories. So I hope you got a lot of it. Oh,

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