Speaker 1: Today we talk Leonard Lake and Charles nig two former
Speaker 1: Marines turned collectors of women, in their Operation Miranda, a
Speaker 1: sex slave bunker built for an imagined nuclear end times.
Speaker 1: Were they just a lone duo of survivalists with degenerate
Speaker 1: dreams or part of a twisted network. Could they've learned
Speaker 1: these skills or developed these ideas through war? Was the
Speaker 1: war brought home?
Speaker 2: I need to explain. What I want is an office
Speaker 2: shop sex partner. I want to be able to use
Speaker 2: a woman whenever and.
Speaker 3: However I want, And when I'm tired or bored or
Speaker 3: I'm not interested, I simply want to put her away,
Speaker 3: lock her up in a little run, get her out
Speaker 3: of my sight, out of my life. Save there's no
Speaker 3: way around it.
Speaker 1: We're so often forced ed the lone wolf narrative, yet
Speaker 1: on this occasion we're left with the revised duo of
Speaker 1: Wolf's narrative. An amateur noticer of the patterns should pick
Speaker 1: up on a horde of hints to the alternative as
Speaker 1: we go through this story. Starting off, we begin with
Speaker 1: Leonard Lake. He was born nineteen forty five in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: His parents split early. He was shipped off to his
Speaker 1: strict grandma. There were insect rumors with his sisters, and
Speaker 1: there was a reports of his grandma even encouraging such
Speaker 1: behavior with the photographer photographing of his sister's nude talk
Speaker 1: of animal torture, killing mice by dissolving them. You could
Speaker 1: see this as foreshadowing for what would later become of
Speaker 1: Leonard Lake and his dynamic and his sidekick Charles nig
Speaker 1: just much like he would get rid of corpses later.
Speaker 1: He joined the Marines in nineteen sixty four tours of
Speaker 1: duty during the Vietnam War as a radar electronics technician.
Speaker 1: Later he had what was called a delusional breakdown in Denang.
Speaker 1: He received psychotherapy and then a medical discharge in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy one. Obviously, we should take a moment to know
Speaker 1: all of this. For those familiar with the program to
Speaker 1: Kill thesis, this strikes quite accord. His time in the
Speaker 1: Vietnam War two tours is obviously significant. This is when
Speaker 1: Operation Phoenix was a go, and this is where much
Speaker 1: of the thesis for the serial curds of today, the
Speaker 1: program to kill idea comes from. It's born from here,
Speaker 1: or you know, sprouts out from here. Obviously, the delusional breakdown,
Speaker 1: the psychological, the psychotherapy. These are all things notes to
Speaker 1: be made here. He moved to San Jose after all
Speaker 1: this and enrolled in San Jose State Universe, dropped out
Speaker 1: after one semester and chose instead the San Francisco hippie community.
Speaker 1: He moved to a commune in San Francisco and got
Speaker 1: married in nineteen sixty nine. The added when his wife
Speaker 1: became uncomfortable after learning of him being involved with amateur
Speaker 1: porn producing and starring, usually involving bondage or sado masochism.
Speaker 1: For the next eight years, Lake lived at the Greenfield Ranch,
Speaker 1: which was a fifty six hundred acre settlement near Kalpalla,
Speaker 1: which is north of Yukaya. In nineteen seventy five he
Speaker 1: found another wife who this time was comfortable with his
Speaker 1: proclivities and also down to be involved. This was clar
Speaker 1: Lynn Blas, nicknamed Cricket. Early signs of his dark vision
Speaker 1: appeared with a bunker on the settlement grounds here being
Speaker 1: in the early formation of it until the owner there
Speaker 1: put a stop to it. Now there's another individual here,
Speaker 1: Leonard's shadow, if you will. This is Charles Nigg Hong
Speaker 1: Kong born in nineteen sixty he was known. He was
Speaker 1: reportedly abused by his father. He was arrested for shoplifting
Speaker 1: at fifteen, and at this time his father insisted he
Speaker 1: go off the boarding school and went to the Benam
Speaker 1: Grammar School in North Yorkshire, England. He was kicked out
Speaker 1: for stealing. He later moves to the US on a
Speaker 1: student visa in nineteen seventy eight and studies biology at
Speaker 1: the College of Notre Dame in Belmont, California. He also
Speaker 1: drops out very quickly after one semester. Soon after he
Speaker 1: was involved in a hit and ron, and to avoid
Speaker 1: a prosecution, he listed in the Marine Corps. He fakes
Speaker 1: his documentation to be able to join at eighteen. This
Speaker 1: is in nineteen seventy nine. He was later arrested by
Speaker 1: military police for trying to steal automatic weapons from the
Speaker 1: Canioa Bay Base armory. Hold up a moment that sounds
Speaker 1: a whole like asset behavior to me. If you've been
Speaker 1: following my show for any period of time, this is
Speaker 1: these sorts of these sorts of operations of stealing of
Speaker 1: weapons from military bases as a common hallmark you'd see
Speaker 1: in these sorts of operations, odd behavior for any old
Speaker 1: military member just to be stealing automatic weapons. He escapes
Speaker 1: his court martial and he makes his way to North California.
Speaker 1: Now how this duo met is through a nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: one survivalist ad in a magazine two Broken Marines plotting
Speaker 1: apocalypse bunkers? Is this chance or is this convergence of
Speaker 1: groomed operatives? Of note here is that this is of
Speaker 1: how other hidden networks converse. One freaking example I like
Speaker 1: to bring up on my show is the examples in
Speaker 1: the eye of the Chicken Hawk of how child trafficking
Speaker 1: networks would utilize ads ads in backs of magazines. For example,
Speaker 1: here is one that we are looking at right now.
Speaker 1: This is Brother Paul's Ecumenical Missions. Now what this was
Speaker 1: was Brothers Paul's Mission. It was a tax exempt youth charity.
Speaker 1: It received donations in mail from sponsors who paid to
Speaker 1: receive child pornography and in some cases visited the boys
Speaker 1: on site. This is a pay to access brothel disguise
Speaker 1: as a camp. You can see the ad here, and
Speaker 1: as they say, symbolism will be their downfall. I think
Speaker 1: kind of what I'm alluding to here is the concept
Speaker 1: of occulting, occulting things, hiding things how symbols how they
Speaker 1: can be revealed. And here is kind of a more
Speaker 1: plane example or two plane examples of such. Also interestingly
Speaker 1: worth noting here of is that an other there was.
Speaker 1: This is ironic but likely unrelated. Who knows, maybe there
Speaker 1: is a relationship relationship here. One of the victims that
Speaker 1: we will that inevitably will come up here because spoiler alert,
Speaker 1: these are some serial killers is one of the people
Speaker 1: they killed was people the victim themselves placed a personal
Speaker 1: ad in the local newspaper offering to give straight men
Speaker 1: head uh. And it was reportedly Charles Nig who showed
Speaker 1: up and answered the ad and killed the killed the
Speaker 1: one who placed it. There was another person in the
Speaker 1: house who placed him there. Odd story, but another person
Speaker 1: responding to an ad so figured hey, odd irony here. Now.
Speaker 1: Remember Nig had just escaped from a military prison and
Speaker 1: from here he stayed at a motel Lake was now managing.
Speaker 1: This is after they met up. He has eventually moved
Speaker 1: into a house along with Leonard and his wife. In
Speaker 1: April nineteen eighty two, the police arrested Lake and Nig
Speaker 1: on weapons charges. Nig was sent back to Fort Leavenworth
Speaker 1: for his earlier misdeeds. Lake jumped bail and started using
Speaker 1: aliases in disguises as one on the lamb does. In
Speaker 1: July nineteen eighty four, Nig rejoined Lake and his wife
Speaker 1: after refinishing his sentence and being dishonorably discharged. In Nig's absence,
Speaker 1: Lake moved to a cabin near Willseyville owned by his
Speaker 1: in laws. Next to the cabin he built his dream Dungeon,
Speaker 1: a concrete bunker with one way mirrors, restraints, torture tools
Speaker 1: stalked for m ladies. These are sex slaves to repopulate
Speaker 1: the post nuke. At that time, Lake and Nig began
Speaker 1: kidnapping and murdering men, women, and children. Also somewhere in there,
Speaker 1: Leonard murdered his brother and started cashing his disability checks.
Speaker 1: These atrocities became known as the Miranda murders, after a
Speaker 1: character in The Collector the book that inspired Lake. The
Speaker 1: official narrative goes Lake and Nig killed the men in
Speaker 1: infants immediately, but subjected women to aperiat of enslaved enslavement,
Speaker 1: rape and torture before killing them. In the end, there
Speaker 1: were at least eleven confirmed murders, but clearly more tapes
Speaker 1: seem eerily detached performative cruelty, kind of much like Vietnam
Speaker 1: military interrogators gone rogue, very much giving off mk ultra vibes.
Speaker 1: Let's take a moment to look at some of the
Speaker 1: excerpts from these very tapes.
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Speaker 4: leads me to think that you're even attempting to make
Speaker 4: noise as the materials to whether I hear you or
Speaker 4: anyone else issue. Julie Whipton very severely understand. I understand,
Speaker 4: and having a little war within my selling between what
Speaker 4: I wanna do and what we might call item. Is
Speaker 4: the decent thing you do and for the moment, the
Speaker 4: decent thing to do is when the South rest, if
Speaker 4: your baby is gonna take be taken away?
Speaker 1: Excuse yeah, I mean be be taken away.
Speaker 4: Does a family done in pressment that doesn't have a baby,
Speaker 4: you might take him a baby? Then the baby's dead,
Speaker 4: like when mean they about one in the hall.
Speaker 1: That's my baby.
Speaker 2: Remember you have a your baby is sound asleep like
Speaker 2: a rock.
Speaker 4: Uh, you have a gabor or if you don't like it,
Speaker 4: for that like you to put it in writing. It's
Speaker 4: done just to get whatever would tell you you would
Speaker 4: have passed out, you s move in life or some much. Well,
Speaker 4: if you can thought of selling, what would you up?
Speaker 4: Remember I have a lot of animals twenty two and
Speaker 4: I would just assume start up with a nice firm.
Speaker 1: With me right now to make you believe how serious
Speaker 1: we are right continuing on. On June second, nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 1: Nig was caught shoplifting a vice from a hardware store
Speaker 1: in South San Francisco. Officers noticed that Lake bore no
Speaker 1: resemblance to the photo and his driver's license, which carried
Speaker 1: the name of Robin Scott Stapley, a San Diego man
Speaker 1: reported missing by his family several weeks earlier. Lake was
Speaker 1: arrested after a gun with a silencer was found in
Speaker 1: his trunk of his nineteen eighty Honda Prelude. At the station,
Speaker 1: Lake was placed in interrogation room. We are where we
Speaker 1: are to believe he killed himself via cyanide pills he
Speaker 1: had sown into his clothes. Lake died on June sixth.
Speaker 1: Lake's ex wife, clare Lynn Blase, cooperated with investigators, received
Speaker 1: a legal immunity from prosecution. Side eyes should be given here.
Speaker 1: You are not incorrect. You have done so. Nig, who
Speaker 1: was never act you assistant, had skipped out on justice
Speaker 1: yet again before was arrested in Calgary, Alberta. On July sixth,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five. A store security guard suspected to him
Speaker 1: of shoplifting in got in a fire fight with Nig,
Speaker 1: yet ultimately survived, apperending him. He served four and a
Speaker 1: half years in the Canadian prison. He was fighting extradition
Speaker 1: of the US and the grounds of the impending death penalty.
Speaker 1: For those who aren't aware, if you are, many nations
Speaker 1: will fight extradition when the death penaloty is involved, it's
Speaker 1: essentially cruel and unusual behavior something of the like. In
Speaker 1: ninety one, he was extradited to California, where he was
Speaker 1: indicted on twelve counts of first degree. In February nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine, Nig was convicted of eleven of the twelve homicides,
Speaker 1: six men, three women, and two male infants. Jurors deadlocked
Speaker 1: on the twelfth charge, the murder of Paul Kosner, but
Speaker 1: Nig was sentenced to death. As of July twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: Nig was incarcerated at California Medical Facility. The last execution
Speaker 1: in California was in two thousand and six, twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: Gaviner Gavin Newsom's side and executive order placing a moratorium
Speaker 1: on the death penalty in California. So don't hold your breath.
Speaker 1: Was this ap apocalypse prepped or was this state sanctioned terror?
Speaker 1: The Dave McGowan's thesis and program to Kill is that
Speaker 1: many infamous murders are not isolated psychopaths, but instead products
Speaker 1: of deeper systemic influences like military conditioning and intelligence related programming.
Speaker 1: Both of these men had significant ties to the US Marines.
Speaker 1: Their crimes kidnapping, torturing, and murdering at least eleven people,
Speaker 1: including entire families, involved a fortified bunker stocked with military
Speaker 1: grade weapons, restraints, and surveillance equipment. The abuse in dismemberment
Speaker 1: suggests experience and understanding and mind control techniques akin to MK.
Speaker 1: Ultra ritualistic and cult like aspects of Lake and Niggs
Speaker 1: operation further aligne with McGowan's claims of occult involvement in
Speaker 1: serial murder cases. Lake was affiliated with the Society for
Speaker 1: Creative anachronism described as a medieval moorship cult potentially involving sacrifices.
Speaker 1: He claimed membership in a secret death cult in his
Speaker 1: San Francisco, which is coven. Their operation Miranda was an
Speaker 1: obsession spawned from a favored book, The Collector, a story
Speaker 1: about a man who grows obsessed with controlling woman as
Speaker 1: an offshoot from his bug collecting hobby, a plan to
Speaker 1: create sex slaves, and a post apocalyptic bump bunker. This
Speaker 1: mimic or mimic survivalist strategies with sadistic programmed elements, including
Speaker 1: snuff like videos and an incinerator for body disposal. Now
Speaker 1: McGowan suggests these components could be not random depravity, but
Speaker 1: orchestrated behaviors tied to satanic or cult networks, often overlapping
Speaker 1: with drug trafficking, as some victims were linked to metham
Speaker 1: vetomine operations. Ultimately, the handling of the Lake Nig case
Speaker 1: supports McGowan's broader conspiracy framework, where official narratives obscure larger
Speaker 1: truths through cover ups, investigative irregularities, evidence tampering by Lake's
Speaker 1: ex wife, unexplained delays in Nig's extradition and trial, missing
Speaker 1: files in a gag order suppressing defense details suggests institutional
Speaker 1: protection of hidden accomplices or motives. Police initially considered it
Speaker 1: a cult or mass mer scenario beyond the duo, yet
Speaker 1: the focus narrowed, ignoring potential ties to ritual abuse at
Speaker 1: a local full rage club where Lake volunteered. In McGowan's view,
Speaker 1: this reflects how serial killers like Lake and Nig serve
Speaker 1: as pawns in a program system, their crimes, enabling societal
Speaker 1: control while evading scrutiny of military intelligence origins. Obviously, this
Speaker 1: is all very specially but this is just but one
Speaker 1: data point in a deluge of data points in Dave
Speaker 1: McGowan's Program to Kill. Many data points and patterns form
Speaker 1: one thing's from sure, from marine misfits to architects of
Speaker 1: the Miranda murders, Lake and Nig embody McGowan's warning killers
Speaker 1: of symptoms of a program society monsters on marionettes. I
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