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Speaker 2: What a performance for the Dodger rookie right hander, just
Speaker 2: what they needed as the Dodgers get the win in
Speaker 2: Houston six to two. Hi, everybody, and welcome to postgame
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Speaker 2: two five seventy is the Dodgers get the win in Houston,
Speaker 2: and I think it's one of those exhale moments with
Speaker 2: the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: You needed to get this win.
Speaker 2: To avoid getting swept in Houston, to have that taste
Speaker 2: going into your mouth into Tuesday's matchup against the San
Speaker 2: Diego Padres. And I think for a couple of reasons. One, yeah,
Speaker 2: you got a day off tomorrow, and the last thing
Speaker 2: you want is just lingering over your head that you
Speaker 2: got swept in Houston. The sky is falling. It's the
Speaker 2: end of the world. We can't win on the road.
Speaker 2: We're struggling away from Dodgers Stadium.
Speaker 3: Two, you have the trade deadline. That's Tuesday at three
Speaker 3: o'clock Pacific.
Speaker 2: So the next time the Dodgers play a game, there
Speaker 2: could be some moves made or moves not made in
Speaker 2: that Dodgers clubhouse. Guys could be coming, could be going,
Speaker 2: We just don't know. Over the course of the next
Speaker 2: forty eight hours away from this trade deadline, with this
Speaker 2: Dodgers team could look like the final two months of
Speaker 2: this regular season, and come the postseason could look drastically different.
Speaker 2: Could be some additions, could be no additions to this
Speaker 2: Dodgers team. So that's something also lingering the trade deadline
Speaker 2: between the now and the next time the Dodgers play.
Speaker 2: And I think for guys like River Ryan, this Dodgers bullpen.
Speaker 2: They needed to get some positivity and get something good
Speaker 2: on paper moving into their next start, into their next game,
Speaker 2: and certainly this Dodgers' bullpen has something now to build on,
Speaker 2: especially Joe Kelly and Brent Honeywell eight six six nine
Speaker 2: eight seven two five seventy. For River Ryan, it was
Speaker 2: exactly what he needed to do. Get a second start
Speaker 2: in the big leagues, away from Dodgers Stadium, against a
Speaker 2: good offense in the Houston Astros, against a team that
Speaker 2: plays in a small band box, if you will, that
Speaker 2: is minute made park, with the short left field high wall,
Speaker 2: the short right field foul poll down the line, it's a.
Speaker 3: Tough place to pitch.
Speaker 2: Certainly, there's some gaps in left center and right center
Speaker 2: field that are open and the ball plays there, but
Speaker 2: down the lines to left and right field, the ball
Speaker 2: gets out quickly because of the short porches there on
Speaker 2: both sides, and it could be tough for starting pitchers.
Speaker 2: River Ryan came out and had a leadoff walk and
Speaker 2: then walk the second batter of the game. Alex Bregman
Speaker 2: and I thought, probably like in many of you Dodger fans,
Speaker 2: just like I felt with Clayton Kershaw on the mound
Speaker 2: the last time I did Dodger Talk with you on Thursday?
Speaker 2: Uh oh, what's gonna happen? Are the wheels gonna fall off?
Speaker 2: Is this gonna be a bullpen game? Are we gonna
Speaker 2: see River Ryan implode on the mound in his second start?
Speaker 2: Just like with Clayton Kershaw got into some trouble in
Speaker 2: the third inning on Thursday.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, how is he gonna respond?
Speaker 2: How is he gonna go out there and navigate himself
Speaker 2: through a tough situation against the San Francisco Giants? Now today,
Speaker 2: first and second nobody out back to back walks in
Speaker 2: the first inning to al Tuo Vey and Bregman. He
Speaker 2: buckles down Jordan Alvarez flies out to left for the
Speaker 2: first out of the first inning, and then get to
Speaker 2: youan air Diaz to ground out on a six four
Speaker 2: to three double play. Right before that, Rick Monday said
Speaker 2: on the broadcast here man, a double play ball would
Speaker 2: make everything feel a lot better for River Ryan to
Speaker 2: get out of this inning.
Speaker 3: And exactly what he did.
Speaker 2: He had a sinker ball down in the strike zone
Speaker 2: and he gets Diaz to ground out to a met
Speaker 2: it short and start a six ' four to three
Speaker 2: double play inning over and he gets out of what
Speaker 2: was a leadoff walk, and then a'll walk to the
Speaker 2: second battery he faced in Bregman, and he felt really
Speaker 2: good about River Ryan at that point. Comes back out
Speaker 2: in the second, strikes out the first two batters he faces,
Speaker 2: comes back in the third, a lead off walk, gets
Speaker 2: around that with a couple of strikeouts in a flyout.
Speaker 2: Anytime he faced adversity, he was able to get out
Speaker 2: of it. And there's a theme here that I'm getting to.
Speaker 2: First inning, first and second, nobody out, gets out of it.
Speaker 2: Third inning, lead off walk, gets out of it, fifth inning,
Speaker 2: leadoff double, and he was able to get around the
Speaker 2: Singleton double off the wall in center field by getting
Speaker 2: a ground ball out and then a.
Speaker 3: Runner at third in a one nothing game. This was huge.
Speaker 2: Singleton leads off the fifth inning, Dodgers has just scored
Speaker 2: to take a lead one nothing. Singleton doubles off the
Speaker 2: wall in center tye and run at second base, moves
Speaker 2: over to third on the ground ball out, and what
Speaker 2: does River Ryan do.
Speaker 3: It was impressive. Carrottini strikes out.
Speaker 2: Then the next batter two outs, he strikes out and
Speaker 2: gets out of the jam no runs for the Astros.
Speaker 2: They strand the tye and runner at third with one
Speaker 2: out because River Ryan got back to back punch outs
Speaker 2: to end the fifth inning, got out of his own
Speaker 2: messes in the first, third and fifth inning. In the
Speaker 2: sixth inning, a leadoff double by All two V. Bregman
Speaker 2: flies out to center. Alvarez flies out to center on
Speaker 2: a one to two pitch.
Speaker 3: All two Vs.
Speaker 2: Tranded at second because of fly ball outs back to
Speaker 2: back from Bregman and an Alvarez and two great catches
Speaker 2: and throws back to third by ALBN. You can't underscore that,
Speaker 2: holding the runner at second base not allowing him to
Speaker 2: advance on deep fly balls there to center field.
Speaker 3: Great job by James Allman.
Speaker 2: Rick Monday addressed it on the broadcast and said he
Speaker 2: did a great job getting behind the ball, getting this
Speaker 2: momentum forward and throwing the ball perfectly the third base
Speaker 2: and not allowing All two bay to tag up and
Speaker 2: get the third in scoring position. So two outs, runners
Speaker 2: still at second base, and that's when Dave Roberts elects
Speaker 2: to pull River Ryan.
Speaker 3: All two Vas.
Speaker 2: Stranded at second, back to back flyouts, and you're facing
Speaker 2: the cleanup hitter. Diz and Dave Roberts comes out of
Speaker 2: the dugout, and I'll be honest with you, I was
Speaker 2: surprised what happened yesterday with Justin Robleski, And after the game,
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts talked about that's when the momentum changed, and
Speaker 2: you kind of heard a little bit of disappointment, I
Speaker 2: guess in his voice last night. He comes back out today,
Speaker 2: sitting on ninety one pitches, was River Ryan deepest he
Speaker 2: had gotten this season, and he pulls him. He pulls
Speaker 2: him in favor of the left hander Alex Vessia. Now
Speaker 2: the numbers are what the numbers are, so to speak.
Speaker 2: And I know I'm getting tweeted. Look at the reverse
Speaker 2: numbers for Diez. He actually does better against right handers
Speaker 2: that he does left handers.
Speaker 3: Okay, I get it.
Speaker 2: But right there in the moment with this kid pitching
Speaker 2: his tail off, and I know you don't want to
Speaker 2: be a prisoner of the moment, and certainly I hate
Speaker 2: that in a game, in a series, over the course
Speaker 2: of one sixty two you can get caught up in
Speaker 2: that and you have to try not to. But at
Speaker 2: that moment, today, second Big League outing a guy who
Speaker 2: doesn't have a lot of innings underneath his belt because
Speaker 2: you were slow ramping him up here in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four out of spring training to be on ninety one
Speaker 2: pitches to still hit what ninety seven what was his
Speaker 2: last pitch? Four seam fastball ninety six mile an hours
Speaker 2: to Alvarez right before he got him to fly out
Speaker 2: on a slider. So he's still pumping ninety five ninety six,
Speaker 2: ninety six, ninety six, ninety one on the slider. He's
Speaker 2: still got the velocity, and I get it's the third
Speaker 2: time around the lineup. But after he gets the two
Speaker 2: three hitters to fly out, all to of a sitting
Speaker 2: at second base, you've got a three to nothing lead,
Speaker 2: and in my opinion, I'm letting the kid work out
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Diz comes up and.
Speaker 2: River Ryan's still out there, and Ryan serves up a
Speaker 2: two run home run. Okay, it's still a three to
Speaker 2: two Dodgers lead, and you let the kid got there
Speaker 2: and try to get himself out of that final jam.
Speaker 2: You let him try to earn his way out of
Speaker 2: it and get through six innings. What happens if he
Speaker 2: gets a fly ball final out, It's three to nothing
Speaker 2: and the kids walking off the man to a standing
Speaker 2: ovation from the Dodgers fans, and he's getting a lot
Speaker 2: of slaps on the rear end from his Dodger teammates
Speaker 2: and coaching staff in that dugout for what he did
Speaker 2: to battle out there in that sixth inning.
Speaker 3: Instead, you go to Vessio.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're bringing your Dodgers' bullpen, but a bullpen that's
Speaker 2: been taxed, a bullpen that's faced a.
Speaker 3: Lot this season. The numbers don't lie.
Speaker 2: Dodgers bullpen fourth in Major League Baseball in highest usage
Speaker 2: this season, fourth in all the big leagues, while the
Speaker 2: starting pitchers for the Dodgers twenty fifth in the major
Speaker 2: leagues and innings pitched.
Speaker 3: You've asked your bullpen to do a lot.
Speaker 2: I personally want to let River Ryan go out there
Speaker 2: and finish that final out of the sixth. Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: that last batter, because if he gets Diaz out, he's
Speaker 2: through six, then you can go to the bullpen to
Speaker 2: start a clean seventh inning and a three.
Speaker 3: To nothing lead.
Speaker 2: As it is, you take him out with two outs.
Speaker 2: Diz hits a two run home one on the very
Speaker 2: first pitch from Alex Vessio. Oh no, you talk about
Speaker 2: worst case scenario taking River Ryan out, Dave Roberts having
Speaker 2: to make that decision, and the first pitch Vessia throws
Speaker 2: is an eighty nine mile an hour fastball that Diez
Speaker 2: just turns on and hits a two run home run,
Speaker 2: still a.
Speaker 3: Three two Dodgers lead.
Speaker 2: But you had that feeling in your stomach like, oh no,
Speaker 2: this is last night all over again. And Tim never
Speaker 2: even said, uh, oh, we've seen this before. Yeah, last night,
Speaker 2: which the Dodgers blew at five nothing lead and a
Speaker 2: six four lead in the eighth inning, with what happened
Speaker 2: less than twenty four hours go at minute made park.
Speaker 2: Looking at where River Ryan was through five and two
Speaker 2: third innings, sitting on ninety one pitches, I would have
Speaker 2: let him go one more better. But I'm not the manager,
Speaker 2: not my decision. I'm not second guessing Dave Roberts at all.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what I would have done if
Speaker 2: I were the manager. As it turns out to run
Speaker 2: home run given up by Vessia, Vessia comes back in
Speaker 2: the seventh as a one to two three inning. Okay,
Speaker 2: clean Dodgers' offense says, uh huh, We're not gonna keep
Speaker 2: this a three to two game. We're not gonna keep
Speaker 2: it a nail bier. They tacked on two in the eighth,
Speaker 2: one more in the ninth and put it out of
Speaker 2: reach at a six to two Dodgers' lead. Ninth innam
Speaker 2: belonged to Brent Honeywell and his turtleneck, which is unbelievable
Speaker 2: to see Brent Honeywell and the lettuce that's flown out
Speaker 2: of the back of his hat and the turtleneck. Dude
Speaker 2: looks like he's straight out of nineteen ninety three. That's
Speaker 2: what he looks like pitching out on the mound. Now,
Speaker 2: if he went with the old school stirrup socks that
Speaker 2: guys like Scott Erickson and those dudes in the early nineties,
Speaker 2: Maddix Glading, all those guys used to wear to print
Speaker 2: it on, just striped stirrups that were socks that my
Speaker 2: boy Rob Dibble used to wear all the time, then
Speaker 2: he would really be old school nineteen ninety three ninety four.
Speaker 2: But Brent Honeywell, pitch Well is eighth outing for the Dodgers,
Speaker 2: comes in and get to one, two, three, ninth inning
Speaker 2: in a non safe situation. But again addressing the river,
Speaker 2: Ryan pulled after five and two third innings. I personally
Speaker 2: would have left him in, let him get one more bet.
Speaker 2: If he gives up a two run home run like
Speaker 2: Vessia did, then you go out there, you take the
Speaker 2: ball from the young man and say, hey, you pitched
Speaker 2: your butt off. Maybe a hitter too far, but we
Speaker 2: gave you the opportunity. We let you figure it out.
Speaker 2: And at this time you're gonna lead with the one
Speaker 2: run lead at a boy, slap him on the in,
Speaker 2: let him get an innovation, and you go to Alex
Speaker 2: Vessi or somebody else in the bullpen.
Speaker 3: But I would have let him figured it out.
Speaker 2: And I don't think you're, as Dave Roberts said, and
Speaker 2: just my old opinion, I don't think you're saving himself
Speaker 2: from himself, so to speak, by leaving him out there
Speaker 2: for ninety one pitches and maybe trying to get to
Speaker 2: ninety six, ninety seven. Maybe he gets to one hundred
Speaker 2: pitches and it's too much. I think the situation, he
Speaker 2: wasn't gassed, he wasn't just.
Speaker 3: Dripping in sweat.
Speaker 2: You're looking at him, going, man, this guy is laboring
Speaker 2: from batter to batter and they're just tattooing him. He's
Speaker 2: getting lucky, this ball staying in the ballpark. Oh, somebody
Speaker 2: goes save himself, get him out of there. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: You felt like he was still hitting ninety six ninety
Speaker 2: seven and could have gone batter to batter continually there
Speaker 2: in the sixth And he even said it afterwards, he
Speaker 2: begged Dave Roberts to stay in the game. But you
Speaker 2: know he respects the decision of the manager. They take
Speaker 2: the ball from him. Alex Vessi gives Hip the two
Speaker 2: run home run. As it turns out, Yeah, it's to
Speaker 2: earn run there, River Ryan. You hate to see it
Speaker 2: after the way he pitched, but he still gets the
Speaker 2: win and the Dodgers get the win.
Speaker 3: And on top of all this, the.
Speaker 2: Padres lost, so that means the Dodgers pick up a
Speaker 2: game on the San Diego Padres. Now six and a
Speaker 2: half games up in the Division eight six seven, two
Speaker 2: five seventy. Let's get some phone calls we will hear
Speaker 2: from Joe Kelly coming up in just a little bit.
Speaker 2: Joe Kelly was lipping off during this series from the
Speaker 2: dugout at the Houston Astros and got into the game
Speaker 2: today pitching in the eighth inning and was pretty pumped
Speaker 2: up to be out there on the mound. And afterwards
Speaker 2: David Veassi had a chance to catch up with Joe
Speaker 2: Kelly because we remember all remember the powdy face? Right,
Speaker 2: what was that twenty twenty the powdy face. It's all
Speaker 2: famous now with Joe Kelly, the powdy face towards the
Speaker 2: Houston Astros dugout even though he wasn't a member of
Speaker 2: the twenty seventeen Dodgers.
Speaker 3: He's with the Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 2: In still he's allowed to make the powdy face, and
Speaker 2: he did in twenty twenty, and he doesn't like the
Speaker 2: Houston Astros. And we'll hear from Joe Kelly. Come up
Speaker 2: a little bit. Let's go out to the phones. Let's
Speaker 2: go too. Steven Lahabra is gonna start things off here
Speaker 2: on the Sunday afternoon after the Dodgers get the win.
Speaker 3: Steve I doing, I'm doing all right, Tim.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know, why would the Dodgers ever consider trading
Speaker 4: a River Ryan for some veteran established pitcher. I mean,
Speaker 4: he's not making a lot of money. The guy can
Speaker 4: obviously pitch, so you know, throw these young guys out there,
Speaker 4: and if they can pitch, keep them. Why would you
Speaker 4: even think about trading these guys. I would never trade
Speaker 4: a River Ryan.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think. I don't think River Ryan. This
Speaker 2: is my opinion, Steve, I appreciate it. I don't think
Speaker 2: River Ryan is a guy that's going to be dealt
Speaker 2: at the deadline. That's just my hope, certainly. Now I'll
Speaker 2: get into it in a few minutes. The trade deadline
Speaker 2: is a seller's market right now. And to see what
Speaker 2: the Padres had to do to get some bullpen help today,
Speaker 2: to see what the Angels got back in trading Estevez,
Speaker 2: their closer, who's really good by the way, to the
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Affilies to bulshit, they're a bullpen. They got two
Speaker 2: top minor league pitchers who many consider are going to
Speaker 2: be pitching in the major leagues here in the next
Speaker 2: year or two real quick. The Padres today acquired Jason
Speaker 2: Adam from the Tampa Bay Rays. He's a thirty two
Speaker 2: year old reliever who's got a sub three ERRA, fifty
Speaker 2: strikeouts and forty seven appearances. He's top ten in the
Speaker 2: American League and holds appearances and has held opponents to
Speaker 2: a one sixty four batting average.
Speaker 3: He's had a really good year. Jason Adam.
Speaker 2: Jason Adam, who's been with Kansas City, Toronto, the Cubs,
Speaker 2: and with the Rays the last two years. If I
Speaker 2: lined up Jason Adam and told you to pick him
Speaker 2: out of a lineup, you have no idea who he was.
Speaker 2: Probably still don't know who Jason Adam is. But he's
Speaker 2: one of the better high leverage relievers in baseball here
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four in Tampa. Now he's going to
Speaker 2: the Padres. The Padres had to give up three of
Speaker 2: their top twelve minor league prospers, and this is a
Speaker 2: minor league system they've had to replenish in the last
Speaker 2: two years because of trades. They give up Delan LESCo,
Speaker 2: who's the right hander they like.
Speaker 3: A lot, JD.
Speaker 2: Gonzalez, a catcher, and Homer Bush junior, an outfielder who
Speaker 2: they drafted at at GCU last couple of years. Three
Speaker 2: of their top top of their top twelve prospects they
Speaker 2: had to give.
Speaker 3: Up to get Jason Adam.
Speaker 2: That's just an example of what the market is for
Speaker 2: Jason Adam to be a part of your bullpen. What
Speaker 2: do you think of Garrett Crochet is going to cost
Speaker 2: somebody to go out and get what do you think
Speaker 2: of Blake Snell? Is going to cost for a team
Speaker 2: to try to go out and get a Trek Scooble.
Speaker 2: That's why the asking price for these starters is through
Speaker 2: the roof. In order to get one of these top
Speaker 2: three starters, you are going to have to literally give
Speaker 2: up your top prospects, and a lot of.
Speaker 3: Them in order to get them.
Speaker 2: So we'll see if the Dodgers are in the running
Speaker 2: for any of these top three pitching prospects. I got
Speaker 2: a couple other names out there that I think are
Speaker 2: more likely the Dodgers go out and get.
Speaker 3: And it's not settling.
Speaker 2: By any means, but I don't think the asking price
Speaker 2: is worth what you're gonna get in a starting pitcher
Speaker 2: back the rest of the season. And I got more
Speaker 2: on that coming up eight six, six, nine, eighty seven,
Speaker 2: two five seventy. It's going to Eric in Hollywood is
Speaker 2: next up here on Dodger Talk.
Speaker 3: How you doing, Eric?
Speaker 5: No dirt day shod Yo kids. Alman is back man.
Speaker 5: I like him, man, I'm glad he hit that home
Speaker 5: run today. Man, I wish he got some more at bats.
Speaker 5: I wish he's got a little more heater in that
Speaker 5: or tay Man Baseball is baseball's top river ryot Is pitching. Man,
Speaker 5: I love this guy, bro, What a find, What a
Speaker 5: find by this guy? Be what that naked is what
Speaker 5: we trained this guy for. Talk so that this guy's fantastic.
Speaker 5: Uh Oh, I gotta give some I've gotta give a
Speaker 5: lot of dirt to the Astros. I'm a big time dodgerphant.
Speaker 5: I know it's been seven years, and kickt Hrdad. They
Speaker 5: said it. He posted. He's all like whatever, it's been
Speaker 5: seven years. But hey, man, I still hate these guys, bro,
Speaker 5: the trash throws, the asterisks, you know, whatever you want
Speaker 5: to call them. I hate these guys. I will always
Speaker 5: hate these guys. Cavar Bi show, Craig b Shoe like,
Speaker 5: that's okay, that's the only love I'll give him. But uh,
Speaker 5: I hate I hate the asterisks. I hate a man.
Speaker 5: But uh ah. Gotta give a shout out to LUs Yeah,
Speaker 5: Lucks just turning things around.
Speaker 2: Man, Luxy Austin Barnes is turning things around. Appreciate the
Speaker 2: phone call eight six ninety seventy Andy and Lake Elsinore
Speaker 2: is next up here on Dodger Talk after the Dodgers
Speaker 2: defeat the Astros six to two.
Speaker 3: How you doing, Andy?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 7: Tim?
Speaker 8: How you doing today?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 9: I was calling just I want to talk about, uh,
Speaker 9: you know, Pa has going back down to the minors
Speaker 9: or maybe being trade bait. But uh, when Mooki comes
Speaker 9: back that really like to see the outfield him go
Speaker 9: to right field and then maybe center field to Oscar
Speaker 9: and then left field Hayward.
Speaker 7: I think that'd be a better outfield for the playoffs
Speaker 7: because these guys they're going to be like deer in
Speaker 7: the headlights in the playoffs. They are both out men
Speaker 7: and empires. I don't expect anything out of them in
Speaker 7: the playoffs. And then the other thing is also I.
Speaker 8: Want to talk about why is Dave Roberts not, you know,
Speaker 8: just having more faith in his pictures and getting them
Speaker 8: out just one not too soon.
Speaker 2: I don't get it all right, Edie appreciate it. I
Speaker 2: sort of explained it just a few minutes ago.
Speaker 3: Last night.
Speaker 2: He certainly said the momentum changed with Justin Robleski left Today,
Speaker 2: Certainly the momentum changed when you took out River Ryan.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers, fortunately offensively, were able to pick it up
Speaker 2: and get some big insurance runs to give it him
Speaker 2: a six to two lead going into the bottom half
Speaker 2: of the ninth inna Yenair Diaz. His numbers, it gets
Speaker 2: pointed out to several people on me on Twitter against
Speaker 2: left handers, hitting two sixty three with two home runs
Speaker 2: and a six ninety one OPS. Against right handers this year,
Speaker 2: hitting nearly three hundred with an OPS of eight hundred
Speaker 2: and six home runs with forty one RBI. So the
Speaker 2: numbers do show that he hits better against right handers.
Speaker 2: So that's why they went to the left hander. Alex Fatia. Okay,
Speaker 2: I get the numbers. They're right in front of me.
Speaker 3: Okay, I get it. I could go onto a computer
Speaker 3: and look up any number. I understand.
Speaker 2: But in the moment, the way he had just gotten
Speaker 2: back to back outs to the two and three hitters
Speaker 2: Alvarez and Bregman and al two by still stuck at
Speaker 2: second base, and you're still pumping ninety five, and he's
Speaker 2: got the nasty curveball and slider working me personally, in
Speaker 2: the moment, I see ninety one pitches.
Speaker 3: Yes, I see a.
Speaker 2: Young man out there who I would have let go
Speaker 2: to one more batter.
Speaker 3: And again I said it earlier. If Diez hits a two.
Speaker 2: Run home run off of you, like he did Vessia,
Speaker 2: then then you go get river right, and you still
Speaker 2: have a three to two lead to work with when
Speaker 2: he leaves the game. If he hits a base hit
Speaker 2: and scores all two b it's a three to one game.
Speaker 2: You know what, You go out there, you take the
Speaker 2: ball from him, and you still got a two run lead.
Speaker 2: I would have just let him go one more batter.
Speaker 3: That's me.
Speaker 2: And it's easy to say now because Vessia came in
Speaker 2: the first pitch, he gives up a two run home one.
Speaker 2: But at the time I was saying leave him in,
Speaker 2: leave him in one more, one more I would have
Speaker 2: left him out there. And with all that being said,
Speaker 2: your bullpens tax, why not allow him to get one
Speaker 2: more out? So your bullpending come in and only have
Speaker 2: to get nine outs and get a clean seventh inning
Speaker 2: to start with. So a lot of Kulda would have
Speaker 2: should I understand that's part of second guessing, that's part
Speaker 2: of the game of professional sports.
Speaker 3: The moves that are made or are not made, the.
Speaker 2: Decisions that backfire you, the decisions that you push the
Speaker 2: right buttons. We talk about it, win or lose, good
Speaker 2: and bad. We break it down. But that's the beauty
Speaker 2: of a postgame show. You get to talk about what
Speaker 2: just happened in the moment, during the course of a
Speaker 2: night game and it backfired. It for the moment against
Speaker 2: Alex Vessi and bringing him in with the two run
Speaker 2: home run that he gave up with the Dodgers offense
Speaker 2: helped him out and put up two in the eighth,
Speaker 2: one more in the ninth, and the Dodgers get a
Speaker 2: sixty to two. Well, we'll take a quick time out.
Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll get to your phone calls. We
Speaker 2: also here from Joe Kelly. David Veass had a chance
Speaker 2: to catch up with them and ask him what he
Speaker 2: thought about the booze from all the fans at mint
Speaker 2: Mide Park.
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Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 9: Nobody out and there's leads at the first pitch, swung
Speaker 9: on well, hit to right, going back onto.
Speaker 7: This low for fit.
Speaker 3: He's at the track, He's at the wall. He looks up.
Speaker 3: It's gone a home run.
Speaker 10: Gavin Lucks a two run shot to right field and
Speaker 10: the Dodgers lait at three to nothing.
Speaker 2: Gavin Lutz with the two run home run that gave
Speaker 2: the Dodgers a three to zhing lead in the top
Speaker 2: half of the sixth thitning Boy, was that a big
Speaker 2: home run for what would happened in the bottom half
Speaker 2: of the sixth thinning? Won a second half of the
Speaker 2: season for Gavin Lux, hitting over four hundred in his
Speaker 2: last fourteen games. Nationally Player of the Week for the
Speaker 2: three games against the Boston Red Sox last weekend. Gavin
Speaker 2: Lucks extra base hits is up in the second half
Speaker 2: of the season, home runs now up in the second half.
Speaker 3: Of the season.
Speaker 2: He is a hitting machine now. Gavin lucks whether he's
Speaker 2: hitting third or he's hitting ninth. Gavin Lux Today goes
Speaker 2: one for two with the two run home run, but
Speaker 2: on base four times as he was walked three times
Speaker 2: in this game. Today is now hitting two thirty eight
Speaker 2: on the season with a two ninety seven on base percentage.
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Speaker 2: We got to Jerry in Thousand Oaks, though it is
Speaker 2: next up here on postgame Dodge Talk after the Dodgers
Speaker 2: win at sixty two.
Speaker 3: How you doing, Jerry?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Hi, how are you good?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I just want to talk about the lack of quality
Speaker 6: Adva's as much as I was thrilled to James Upmann
Speaker 6: hit that home run. He just looks so tight. And
Speaker 6: the most frustrating at that was when there was second
Speaker 6: and third. I mean, was there no outs or one
Speaker 6: out and he was up there and just there's no
Speaker 6: situational hitting. It's just swinging from the heels. And I
Speaker 6: don't know what goes on down mind leagues, what kind
Speaker 6: of adjustments they try to make with these guys when
Speaker 6: they go down, But I just don't see it. I mean,
Speaker 6: as opposed to Cap and muck has just taken off.
Speaker 6: But you know, James just looks so tight. You could
Speaker 6: just tell by his facial expressions. I wish he would
Speaker 6: shorten up some swings or hit situationally, and just like
Speaker 6: to know your opinion.
Speaker 3: I appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 2: I think you're sitting better swings out of him and
Speaker 2: the guys in the bottom half of the lineup. Hopefully
Speaker 2: Cavin Biehio can build on what he's done in the
Speaker 2: last two days now, maybe going home to Houston or
Speaker 2: his dad's a Hall of Fame catcher slash second basement
Speaker 2: slash outfielder. Maybe this is jump starting him. Maybe offensively
Speaker 2: he can get it going now because he hit the
Speaker 2: ball well last night. Today he hit the ball well.
Speaker 2: Also at the bottom of the lineup. Gavin Lux now
Speaker 2: batting third, has played really well, defense not an issue anymore,
Speaker 2: and starting to heat things up offensively at the plate.
Speaker 2: I hope this is a sign for this Dodger team
Speaker 2: top to bottom that things are going to turn around.
Speaker 2: Austin Barnes extends is hitting streak to twelve straight games.
Speaker 2: Now I mentioned it earlier. James Outman today had the
Speaker 2: home run. It was his first hit of any kind
Speaker 2: in his last nine games. He was oh for his
Speaker 2: last nine games. This was game twelve for him since
Speaker 2: being recalled. He had hits in his first two games
Speaker 2: back and then he was over the next nine. And
Speaker 2: he comes back today and gets to a home run,
Speaker 2: a huge home run for the Dodgers in the fifth
Speaker 2: inning to jumpstart this offense and get him on the
Speaker 2: board and give River Ryan a one to nothing lead.
Speaker 2: So hopefully this is the start of something. And I
Speaker 2: keep thinking a six and a half game lead. With
Speaker 2: everything that's gone wrong injury wise for this Dodgers team,
Speaker 2: certainly things could be a lot worse. This lead could
Speaker 2: be down to two and a half. Heck, this could
Speaker 2: be a Dodgers team that wasn't in first place after
Speaker 2: building a big lead because of injuries to Mookie Betts
Speaker 2: and Max Muncie and a starting rotation at one point
Speaker 2: had four to fifths of their starting rotation from the
Speaker 2: beginning of the season on the injured list or on
Speaker 2: minor league rehab assignments, and White all that this is
Speaker 2: a team that's slowly starting to get players back from injury,
Speaker 2: and let's give you a quick injury update. As far
Speaker 2: as Dave Roberts before the game today, talking in particular
Speaker 2: about three players, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, we'll throw a bullpen Dodger
Speaker 2: fans on Friday, so that is positive news. He's not
Speaker 2: eligible to come off to sixty DAYIL until mid August,
Speaker 2: but as we flip the calendar to beginning of August
Speaker 2: here midweek, he gets two weeks to ramp up and
Speaker 2: a couple of minor league rehabit signments after that, so
Speaker 2: we could see most likely Yoshinoba Yamamoto, if I'm doing
Speaker 2: the math correctly, if he throws a bullpen on Friday,
Speaker 2: probably another bullpen after that, and then a couple of
Speaker 2: minor league rehabit signments to get his innings and his
Speaker 2: stamina built up with the arm again, You're probably looking
Speaker 2: at the end of August as far as a return
Speaker 2: for Yoshinoba Yamamoto if everything continues to trend in the
Speaker 2: right direction. Mookie Betts, Dave Roberts said pregame today that
Speaker 2: he's doing t work, he's doing soft toss, he's swinging
Speaker 2: a bat, he's fielding ground balls, and he'll start taking
Speaker 2: VP here soon. And according to Dave Roberts his words,
Speaker 2: his return is sooner rather than later, so that's positive.
Speaker 2: You're looking at maybe the back third of August for
Speaker 2: a return for Mookie Bets, and it's no need to
Speaker 2: have him rush back. There's no need for him to
Speaker 2: come back, soonerer just to get him back on the
Speaker 2: lineup just because you need him. They'll be okay without him.
Speaker 2: Certainly you want him at the top of the lineup.
Speaker 2: Things are great when he's there, and defensively things are
Speaker 2: better when he's there. But there's no need to rush
Speaker 2: Mookie Bets back. Let's make sure that risk heals right
Speaker 2: and he is good to go for the stretch run
Speaker 2: of September and October, and finally an update on Max Munsey.
Speaker 2: There is no positive news for Max and Munsey right now,
Speaker 2: and that'llblaque. Dave Roberts word was stagnant. Tests have all
Speaker 2: come back clean as far as the oblique, but he
Speaker 2: still says he doesn't feel right, and he says he
Speaker 2: feels discomfort still in the area. Now ever, gonna feel
Speaker 2: one hundred percent right during the course of a season,
Speaker 2: You've got, you know, things that are always sore. It's
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two games, you get hurt. You know,
Speaker 2: you don't necessarily feel right till the offseason.
Speaker 3: It's all part of sports. I get it.
Speaker 2: If the tests all come back clean, what's wrong then
Speaker 2: with Max Munsey?
Speaker 3: Is it a mental game now?
Speaker 10: Is it?
Speaker 2: He doesn't feel one hundred percent And until he feels
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, he's not coming back well. To me,
Speaker 2: this is the biggest question mark going into the trade deadline.
Speaker 2: And we'll get to your phone calls and one money here.
Speaker 2: If Max Munsey is quote unquote stagnant, the Dodgers need
Speaker 2: to figure out third base. That is a bat in
Speaker 2: a position they need to figure out now. Is that
Speaker 2: Key k Hernandez and Cavin b Show going back and forth,
Speaker 2: depending on if there's a lefty or righty on the
Speaker 2: mound maybe or they need to go out and make
Speaker 2: a move to get somebody there at third base down
Speaker 2: the stretch.
Speaker 3: And if that's the.
Speaker 2: Case, that takes away your assets to go get a
Speaker 2: starting pitcher and a reliever and maybe an outfielder to
Speaker 2: help you. This is maybe now a position and a
Speaker 2: spot you weren't necessarily thinking you needed to better via
Speaker 2: trade because you thought.
Speaker 3: Max Munsey was coming back.
Speaker 2: But if he's not gonna be Max Munsey and be
Speaker 2: able to contribute to this team, and quite frankly, now
Speaker 2: as we get ready to flip the calendar to August,
Speaker 2: he's got two months, he's missed a lot of time,
Speaker 2: and he still feels discomfort and he's not good enough
Speaker 2: to come back. You may have to turn the page
Speaker 2: on him coming back and being the starting third baseman
Speaker 2: now here in twenty twenty four. If that's the case, again,
Speaker 2: that takes away trade assets prospects that if you want
Speaker 2: to go get somebody to fill that position or try
Speaker 2: to fill it like a Vlad Guerrero Junior to play
Speaker 2: third base, then that takes away some of those prospects
Speaker 2: that you would have had to go get a front
Speaker 2: end starting pitcher, maybe from the Tigers or the White
Speaker 2: Sox or the Giants or somewhere else, or a back
Speaker 2: end bullpen help from the Tampa Bay Rays or the Marlins.
Speaker 3: So this greatly.
Speaker 2: Affects the Dodgers' decision at the trade deadline. And if
Speaker 2: you're Max Muncy, you either got to come back if
Speaker 2: you're being cleared, or your test all come back clean.
Speaker 2: As Dave Roberts said, test came back clean. That to
Speaker 2: me means you're.
Speaker 3: Good to go.
Speaker 2: You gotta start going out there and playing through whatever
Speaker 2: swords you have if you can. If not, they need
Speaker 2: to figure out their base, and they've got forty eight
Speaker 2: now forty seven and a half hours to do it
Speaker 2: before the trade deadline. That doesn't leave them a lot
Speaker 2: of room. And at that point, who are you gonna
Speaker 2: go out and get that's gonna be an upgrade at
Speaker 2: third base over a combination of Kik Bigo At third
Speaker 2: you only have so many prospects, and it's a seller's
Speaker 2: market already, and if you're gonna make a big time move,
Speaker 2: it's gonna cost you. But now you've got to think
Speaker 2: about third base.
Speaker 3: This is tough. This is certainly not a situation.
Speaker 2: I think Brandon Gomes and Andrew Freeman wanted to be
Speaker 2: in at the trade deadline having to fill and void
Speaker 2: at third base now rather than just starting pitching and
Speaker 2: maybe an outfield spot and a bat off the bench,
Speaker 2: This to me, could be a spot they have to
Speaker 2: fill and what third bases are out there that can
Speaker 2: come in and fill that. In me, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: an interesting forty seven and a half hours now for
Speaker 2: this Dodgers front office. And keep in mind the relievers
Speaker 2: like Tanner Scott of the Marlins. If Jason Adams is
Speaker 2: gonna cost you three of your top twelve minor league
Speaker 2: prospects for Jason Adam, what is Kyle Fagan of the
Speaker 2: Nationals gonna cost you? Who's under control now for another
Speaker 2: year and one of the best relievers out there, Tanner Scott,
Speaker 2: one of the best land left handed closers out there
Speaker 2: from the Marlins. You're gonna have to give him up
Speaker 2: more than just three of your top twelve prospects for
Speaker 2: one of those guys. A name that could be intriguing
Speaker 2: is Dylan Floro. Yes, that same Dylan Floro who's been
Speaker 2: with the Dodgers, off and on again for the last
Speaker 2: five years. He's with the Washington Nationals right now over
Speaker 2: fifty appearances a one ninety four era. He's gonna be
Speaker 2: a free agent at the end of the year, so
Speaker 2: he's gonna walk to me. The asking price is still
Speaker 2: gonna be high because of the seller's market, but it
Speaker 2: won't be as high for a Tanner Scott or Kyle Finigan.
Speaker 2: If you want Dylan Floro, that is a possibility. That's
Speaker 2: a name they can keep an eye on. As far
Speaker 2: as the starter, Jack Flaherty, why not kick the tires
Speaker 2: with the Detroit Tigers and instead of going and asking
Speaker 2: for screwball, say no, no, no, we would rather have
Speaker 2: Jack Flarerity. Now for Jack Flarity, this is the guy
Speaker 2: who is gonna be demanded by a lot of teams
Speaker 2: as well, and as the front runner for the Al
Speaker 2: comeback player the year he's a free agent at the
Speaker 2: end of the season. He bet on himself signing with
Speaker 2: the Tigers almost sign with the Dodgers. I don't think
Speaker 2: you'd have to give up everything like a scerball or
Speaker 2: a crochet, but certainly it's gonna cost you to go
Speaker 2: out and get Jack Flaherty as a rental player or
Speaker 2: possibly a guy who signed at the end of the year,
Speaker 2: and he comes back home to southern California, a Burbank
Speaker 2: kid that went to Harvard Westlake High School in Studio City.
Speaker 2: So there are other options and really good options, but
Speaker 2: again it's still gonna cost the Dodgers. I just shake
Speaker 2: my head if Jason Adam takes three of your top
Speaker 2: twelve prospects in your minor leagues for the Padres to
Speaker 2: acquire him, a thirty two year old who's having a good,
Speaker 2: really good season in Tampa. What's the asking price and
Speaker 2: what's gonna be the demand for guys who are proven
Speaker 2: relievers and guys who are top of the rotation starters.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a high asking price. Ken and New
Speaker 2: for your next up here on Dodge Talky, how you doing, I.
Speaker 10: Hate Kim A couple of quick things. You have a
Speaker 10: guy talking about out man. I don't care if the
Speaker 10: guy hits one twenty. By far, he's the best dealers
Speaker 10: you have and the most important place in the outfield.
Speaker 10: You're comparing the Pajas. It's not even close. He's worth
Speaker 10: at least two runs saved almost every game. Let him alone,
Speaker 10: let him stay there. Defense is extremely important. Number Two.
Speaker 10: The last two days and I've been pretty upset prior,
Speaker 10: but for the last two days right now, the two
Speaker 10: best storting pitchers you have are the two rookies that
Speaker 10: pitch those last two games. That is massively important because
Speaker 10: they have been pitching really well. He he just needs
Speaker 10: to back off and realize you don't need to pull
Speaker 10: him that quick, especially when we got some problems to
Speaker 10: the pin. That's important. Yeah, going to San Diego, those
Speaker 10: two guys don't be able to pitch, but still those
Speaker 10: two eyes were great and leave out on alone, serpeople,
Speaker 10: is extremely important.
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Can appreciate the phone call today.
Speaker 2: We saw Joe Kelly get into the game. It pitched
Speaker 2: the eighth inning. Joe Kelly, famous for the Poudy face.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, over the weekend, was it last night,
Speaker 2: Colin when Valdez was or was it two nights ago
Speaker 2: and two nights to go? On Friday night, Little Chippy
Speaker 2: from Joe Kelly in his words towards Frambury, Valdez out
Speaker 2: there in the mound on Friday night and had some
Speaker 2: things to say.
Speaker 3: It was last night. It was last night against Blanco.
Speaker 3: You're right, but Joe Kelly's never won to hide.
Speaker 2: His feelings or his emotions and doesn't like the Houston
Speaker 2: Astros and made the Poudy face in twenty twenty that
Speaker 2: has been talked about and put up on murals around
Speaker 2: southern California. Well, today he got there and got to
Speaker 2: pitch in the eighth inning and pitched the scoreless eighth inning,
Speaker 2: and afterwards, Dave Roberts or excuse me, our David Vessa,
Speaker 2: speaking of days are out, David Vassa had a chance
Speaker 2: to ask Joe Kelly, what do you thought about the
Speaker 2: booze from the Astros crowd?
Speaker 7: Did you hear the booze?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 11: I was so focused, it's crazy. They weren't loud enough. Honestly,
Speaker 11: New York. When I forgot that one fight with Tossin,
Speaker 11: it was loud, super loud Sunday church crowd. So they're
Speaker 11: kind of like, probably too many kids here. It wasn't active.
Speaker 2: All right, there's Joe Kelly, so he's been booed louder
Speaker 2: in New York and this was nothing. The booze that
Speaker 2: he got today. Well, partially because the Dodgers at that
Speaker 2: point were up five to two against the Astros. It
Speaker 2: was a Sunday day game, you know, the crowd a
Speaker 2: little different than a Friday night or Saturday night, but
Speaker 2: nonetheless very excited to see Joe Kelly out there fired up.
Speaker 2: I love his passion, his enthusiasm. I even love the
Speaker 2: chippiness that he brings with the talking from the Doug guy.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. I have no problem as long
Speaker 2: as against the Houston Astros. So queeze on one more
Speaker 2: call call Let's treason one. Let's go to Don and
Speaker 2: City of Industry is our final call here on Dodger Talk.
Speaker 12: How you doing, Don, Jim Kates, how the heck are you? Man?
Speaker 12: I got so pumped just listening to you advocate for
Speaker 12: River Ryan Man again as you say your passion, the emotion.
Speaker 12: I thought you were a Stewart and mister Smith comes
Speaker 12: to Washington say you think of.
Speaker 5: Lick but I'm not Lick.
Speaker 3: Do we lose you Don? Are you filibusting?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 12: I'm okay, there you go. I'm still go ahead. No,
Speaker 12: it's still no. Yeah, No, it was just great. I
Speaker 12: loved your take. You know, I love what some of
Speaker 12: these young pitchers are doing, you know, coming up and man,
Speaker 12: just just keep advocating.
Speaker 2: All right, don appreciate it. A little little issue to
Speaker 2: your phone there, but we heard a majority of what
Speaker 2: you had to say.
Speaker 3: We appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fired up for River Ryan and would have loved
Speaker 2: to a scene, like I said a couple of times already,
Speaker 2: would love to a scene. We have the chance to
Speaker 2: go out there and face Diaz with two outs and
Speaker 2: all two bastanding of the second base, try to get
Speaker 2: out of that inning without any damage done. If he
Speaker 2: gives up an RBI single, he gives up the home run,
Speaker 2: it's still a three to one game. It's still a
Speaker 2: three to two game because the Dodgers were up three
Speaker 2: nothing at that point. And then you go out and
Speaker 2: you pull them and you go to Alex Vesia and
Speaker 2: the Dodgers bullpit as it is, they take him out.
Speaker 3: Of the game.
Speaker 2: First pitch from Alex Vesia a two run home run.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers offense so prevailed with two runs in the
Speaker 2: eighth and a run the ninth. With that being said,
Speaker 2: the Dodgers get to win sixty two over the Houston Astros.
Speaker 2: Many thanks to Colin Ye, thanks to all you Dodger
Speaker 2: fans for being a part of the show. Thank you
Speaker 2: for podcasting as well.
Speaker 3: We appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I'll be back with Off Night Dodger Talk tomorrow night
Speaker 2: Monday from seven o'clock Pacific until eight o'clock. We'll have
Speaker 2: the very latest on the MLB trade deadline, which is
Speaker 2: Tuesday at three o'clock Pacific. Will the Dodgers make a move?
Speaker 2: Will they not make a move. We'll find out. It
Speaker 2: is definitely a seller's market. Guys are starting to come
Speaker 2: off the board, move around at a high price. Will
Speaker 2: the Dodgers be buyers? We will see their winners today,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Six to two over the Astros now
Speaker 2: sixty three and forty four, and they pick up a
Speaker 2: game on the Padres now six and a half games
Speaker 2: up in the division.
Speaker 3: Off tomorrow with Off Night Dodger Talk.
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Speaker 2: Have a great safe the rest of your Sunday afternoon,
Speaker 2: So everybody