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Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big

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Fight Weekend. Now. Here is your host, DJ Leaves.

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Speaker 2: All right, we have put to bend everything, Canelo Clawford,

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We've moved on with our lives and we're.

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Speaker 1: Ready for another weekend. And it even has a unified

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strawweight title.

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Speaker 2: Defense for Oscar Colazo coming this weekend, plus the undisputed

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women's flyweight champion Gabriella Fondora in action on the same card.

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We're ready to discuss those and a lot more. It

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is the Big Fight Weekend Preview. I am the somewhat coherent,

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somewhat capable host. He is our insider, much less grouchy

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now later in the week because he actually got some

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beauty rest. Hello Dan Rayphiel back aboard here for another weekend,

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little lighter weekend, little little less on the magnitude scale,

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but all yeah, but still we have interesting title fights,

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We got lots of fight news and more to go over.

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How are things as we're kind of settling back in

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mid September, how are things?

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Speaker 3: Things are good? I'm ready to go. Like I said,

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I'm not at all disappointed at this. A little bit

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of a lighter weekend. You need that after the chaos

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of last week, which I enjoyed, but a little rest

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and relaxation after the fact, although it will make me

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think more about the New York Football Giants and how

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horrendous so.

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Speaker 2: Well I did say to you, just while we digress

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for one more moment, and then we'll get into the

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boxing to go watch at least the fourth quarter of

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the Giants Cowboys game and the overtime, which was absolutely

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crazy while you were flying home from Vegas to Northern Virginia.

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You at least have to take some consolation that the

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Giants scored a bunch of points at a bunch of

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yards and Russell Wilson, the rumors of his demise are

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apparently exaggerated at the moment, at least for right now, he.

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Speaker 1: Looked pretty good. But I at least concede.

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Speaker 3: That, yeah, I do. But it doesn't matter because at

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the end of the day, not only did they lose

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to go oh and too, they loss of the hated

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Dallas Cowboys. And I'll tell you soon and fourth constantly

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on my WhatsApp with Mauricio Suliman was a diehard Cowboys fan.

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Speaker 2: Hey that that may be one of like the five

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Cowboy wins they get this year, so he's got to

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rejoice with you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was busting my chops pretty good when I

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was probably, Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: All right, so there's a little NFL talk. We know

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a lot of other stuff is going on, but we're

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There is a doubleheader championship card from Golden Boy and

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his own Indio, California. Oscar Colazzo, who we both find

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entertaining a lot of people do, defending the WBOWBA strawweight

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titles that he holds. I'd love to tell you I

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know something. I don't even really know anything about Jason Vason.

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You're gonna tell me more about that. And then Gabriella

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Fundora is in the co feature defending her undisputed women's

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flyweight titles. But Kalaso, first, what's up here? Is this

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guy basing much of a threat?

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Speaker 1: What do we know?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, well, listen as far as Colaso goes, he's

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the first guy in a long time at least in

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terms of in America anyway, for American boxing fans, that

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you'd have a real reason to say I want to

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watch the strawweight division. I mean, it's not a division

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that gets a lot of love or has a lot

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of activity in the United States. The predominant course of

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the history of the weight class has been in Asia

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and even in Latin America, but primarily been in Asia.

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maintained that if you're just like watching a fight on

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your phone or your screen or your television or however

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you take in and consume boxing matches, and you just

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see two guys throwing punches, you know, it's hard to

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tell like how big or small they are. Like you

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might look at a guy that's a strawweight and think

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he's a featherweight or a lightweight. It's just you can't

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really tell. So I've never been like offended if it's

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a guy that's small. If they make good fights, they

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make good fights. And I'm here to tell you that

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Oscar Colaso is one of the most exciting, fun entertaining

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fighters in the ring in current boxing. Not to mention

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the guy's got a tremendous personality if you listen to

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him when he does his interviews, so you know, I've

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been watching him since he turned pro. He's very exciting.

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He's unified two of the titles. He is the actual

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in my opinion, he's the legit champion of the division.

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I was hopeful they'll be able to make further unification

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fights because at that little weight class, without a lot

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of star power, you know, that's the next best thing

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is to, you know, just line up the other title holders.

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bring a little bit of money to the table, some

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of these other guys with belts might be able to

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make a better purse to fight at Colaso coming here

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to the States, or maybe going to Puerto Rico, where

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he's from and doing a fight with him than fighting

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for much less money somewhere else in the world. But

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in any event, he is defending his title. He unified

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the titles back at the end of last year on

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the Latin Night in Saudi Arabia. He did a good

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job in that fight, getting a knockout. Anyway, He's twelve

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to zero with nine knockouts. A very fun fighter. To watch.

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He's making a sixth I mean put it like this.

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TJ's only he's twelve and zero, but he's already making

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Rican fighter to ever win a world title.

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Speaker 1: It was what the fifth fight or the sixth fight?

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of the unified title because like I said, he defended

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you know, one defense since then, and so they matched

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a whole lot about Jason Vason. He's got a nice record.

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He's fourteen to one and one with eight knockouts. They're

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seventies from the Philippines. This will be, for what it's worth,

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his first time fighting as a professional outside of Asia.

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He has won four fights in a row. But I

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looked at them, and you know, he fought very low

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level opposition. But just because I always say this, just

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because he never heard of the guy, doesn't mean he's

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no good. But Colaso is clearly to me anyway, the

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class of this weight class moment. I would fully expect

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to see Oscar Claso do his thing. But even if

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he just goes in there and blast him out, that's

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still exciting to watch because of the way he goes

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about his business. He's not a guy that's gonna go

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there and dance around and you know, eke out a

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twelve round decision. It doesn't seem to me he's gonna

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come at you and try to get you out of there. So,

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you know, pound for pound, let's say Colaso is one

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Speaker 1: We love activity. That's the other big thing.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm going back to January of twenty twenty four

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one two three four, fifth fifth fight now in basically

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Speaker 3: He's also tj a guy that's willing to fight whoever.

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I mean, he's a Puerto Rican fighter. He could probably

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have fought at home in Puerto Rico and drawn a

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nice crowd in his last fight that took place earlier

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this year, he traveled to Mexico and fought the Mexican

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and took great glee in being a Puerto Rican champion

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to go in there and knock out the Mexican fighter.

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a really good shot. So he's willing to travel obviously

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if he fights this fight. You know, I wouldn't shock

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met frankly if that if Vason was the crowd favored,

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because Southern California at the Fantasy Springs in India where

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this is taking place, you have probably a much better

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chance of having Filipinos that you know, which has a

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good population, a good community in Southern California compared to

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say Puerto Ricans. It's not like this fight's taking place

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in New York City or in Puerto Rico. But you know,

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he takes care of the business, he'll move on. And

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I would hope that at the early part of next

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year Golden Boy can can get him in another unification fight,

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and then you know, that's the main event on this card.

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You know, it's the only real action of the weekend

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in terms of at the top level and then you

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mentioned about Gabriella Fondora, also a tremendous You know, if

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you like women's boxing, she's one of the most exciting

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fighters on the women's side of the sport to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have her.

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Speaker 2: You had her as your twenty twenty four Female Fighter

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of the Year for good reasons. And she shows a punch.

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I mean she has gotten a couple of knockouts in

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her in her recent past. We would again, we're just

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honest with the audience. We would be lying to you.

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If I know anything about Alexis Kubicki, who's the opponent,

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you would think Fundorra. This is made for her to

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look spectacular and to continue to rock on at flyway right.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, so Fandora. She is sixteen to oh

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eight knockouts, but she'd has shown power even though her

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ratio is only fifty percent. But she definitely can get

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her opponents. She's making her fifth overall defense, her second

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of the undisputed title. She's only twenty three years old.

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They Golden Boy likes the promoter as the youngest of

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the undisputed champions, and so and she is of course

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the younger sister of Sebastian Fundora, who was the WBC's

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Junior midleweight world champion. She'll be This is basically a

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and a jump, so she'll be the big crowd favorite.

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I said this when they made this card, even though again,

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even though they're not big name opponents. I like the

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idea that you take two of the best fighters in

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boxing in the smaller weight classes, one on the men's side,

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one on the women's side, both unified in the case

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of Gabrielle undisputed, and they put them on the same

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show together. These are the real like stars, if you will,

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of the smaller weight classes. And like you mentioned about,

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her opponent is Alexis Kobiki, thirteen and woman two knockouts

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from Canada. She wasn't the original opponent. She stepped in

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for Eileen Grandino, who was not allowed. I guess she

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didn't ever visa properly situated. But again it doesn't you know,

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for most people, it's six and one half and done

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the other. Whether she's fighting the one girl or the

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other girl. Nobody really knows her cares. Frankly, it's really

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the Fondora show to see if she's you know, doing

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what she does. But in the case of the new opponent,

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you know, it's not there's nothing changes in my estimation,

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like if it's a harder fighter, an easier fight or

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anything like that. You know, we'll see. I mean, the

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the girl that she's fighting is not a power puncher.

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She's thirteen and one with only two knockouts. But this

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is about Colaso and Fondora disrespect to the opponents, and

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you know they're expected to romp and even though we

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all like to see competitive fights TJ, I'm also down

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once in a while to seeze, you know, some some

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good exciting you know, ass kickens.

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Speaker 1: And this could be coming and maybe we'll.

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Speaker 3: Get surprise and there'll be a good fight.

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Speaker 1: Will So that's the that's the best we have of

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note right now.

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Speaker 2: Coming on the weekend, there's plenty of news to go over,

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including off of the Naotia in a way the monsters

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win on the weekend. This was not unexpected, but now

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it has been announced on what the date is and

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where on his return Turkey. Al chic Is is involved.

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Go ahead with the details of what they're doing officially

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Speaker 3: Not a surprise. It's been expected all along that as

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long as NOI in a way had come through the

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fight that took place on Sunday against Akmadalia, that his

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next assignment would be December twenty seventh in Riad, Saudi

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Arabia in the headliner against David Allen Picasso. That is

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exactly what is going to happen. It will headline, It

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will headline that show, and they're calling it's a Ring

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magazine sponsored show. It'll be on his own, but they're

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calling it a Night of the Samurai because it's which

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is cool that the the a sides if you will, are,

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or at least the one side of each fight is

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a Japanese fighter in a way of course, being the

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biggest name in Japanese boxing. So he's the headliner defending

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the undisputed title. And what I love about it is

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number one Picasso is a pretty good contender. He is

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coming off of a very questionable decision in the last fight.

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It was a majority decision. He was kind of kind

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of like, I won't say lucky, but got some good fortune.

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Let's say in that particular fight he scored in a

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majority decision in a ten rounder that took place back

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in July, that took place in Las Vegas. In any event,

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that's the opponent. So again, what's great about in a

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way is that here you have one of the most

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elite fighters in the whole sport pound for pound, at

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worst number three, at best number one. You know, as

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we've said many times, at the top of the sport.

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Right now, it's NOI in a way, Terrence Crawford and

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Alexander Usik in whatever order you choose to put them in,

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but he's definitely in that elite company, and he is

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an undisputed champion. He's undisputed, and he looked great against

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akmadaiav in that one sided decision that he scored on Sunday,

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And this fight was done even before that fight took place.

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Obviously he had a win and come through with no injuries.

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But here's the thing, it's your favorite, your favorite thing

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about boxing, if that can happen, is activity. We talk

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about it every show. Practically, this will be, in a

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way's fourth fight of the year. Now they're not all

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against big names, uh, but He did have the fight

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in January where he beat the Korean fighter that was

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the replacement because Sam Goodman, who was the mandatory had

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suffered an injury. And he went in there and that was,

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you know, a one sided fight against g Ye June.

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Kimmy knocked him out in the fourth round. He came

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back in May in Las Vegas against Ramon Cardenas at

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the Timobil Arena, put on a tremendous fight, got up

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off the deck, got.

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Speaker 1: Knocked down early, got knocked down early again.

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Speaker 3: There was some drama, and then he dropped Cardenas in

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the seventh round, stopped them in the eighth round. That

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was a super exciting fight. Then he went in the

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ring on Sunday against mj Akmadaliev, the number one contender

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by acclamation basically in the weight class. I think considered

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easily the toughest fight that you could have made in

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the division, and he basically made him look like didn't belong.

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He ran him out of the ring, he didn't get

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the knockout, and in a way, obviously is known for

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the big punching power in the great body attack, but

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he turned in a pristine boxing performance and he overmatched Akmindive.

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I was shocked by I wasn't surprised that in a

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way won the fight, but the fact that he was

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able to do so in such easy fashion. He touched

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him up constantly in the fight. Again, Akuendive showed a

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good chin, but his face was certainly a little puffy

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and then swollen up after the fight. So that was

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a big win for him. That was a tremendous victory.

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And so you know he's coming right back. That was

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on September fourteenth. He's right back in the ring December

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twenty seventh to close out a four fight year, and

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he's scoring wins. He's keeping his record going, he's creating fans.

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He's fighting in Japan, he's fighting in America, he's fighting

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in Saudi Arabia. He's put a lot of money in

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the bank. I mean, it's what you want to do

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when you're you know, at the very top. So that's

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big time. And here is the best part about it,

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by the way, So that's the main event on the undercard.

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You have the the fact that you have well in

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the co features another world. I'll get to the other

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fight in a minute that I want to talk about.

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But the undercard fight, they have Canshiro Taraji, who's been

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a tremendous champion for a very long time in Japanese

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boxing and a world world champion who is coming off

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of a loss. You know, he took you know, he

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lost the uh he lost his title in the in

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the flyweight division in that big upset that took place

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in July against Sandival. So now he's moving up to

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one hundred and fifteen pounds of junior band and weight

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and he's taken on Willibaldo Garcia challenging for the IBF title.

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So that that's a big time for him because he

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had a chance to win a title and get another

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weight class. Garcia was in a good fight when he

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won the vacant belt. So that's the co feature, apparently

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according to the artwork that that turkeyos Sheik posted on

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his social media. But now the the the even more

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exciting part is that in the third fight down below,

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it's not a world title fight that who cares. They're

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putting John to Knakatani on the same card as Noi

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in a way, and obviously in this particular case, you

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got Nakatani, who's the bandamweight champion he's moving up to

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the one hundred and twenty two pound way class. He's invading,

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if you will, the turf of his countryman. NOI in

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a Way, And why would you say that is TJ

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because this is the first step they're making the fight

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next year between in a Way and Nakatani.

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Speaker 2: As we like to say, this crap bank complicated. Sometimes

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it's not hard to figure out in fact that Nakatani

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was ringside for the Sunday night fight in Japan, and

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that's not a coincidence either.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, well we talk about can we have nice things?

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And if this comes to fruition, we will have nice things.

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Because In a Way against Nakatani is one of the

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most spectacular fights you can make in recent boxing times. Now,

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I know I have said for me personally, my dream

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fight would be Nakatani against Bam Rodriguez. But I'll take

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Knakatani gets in a Way any day of the week.

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That'll sell out the Tokyo Dome or wherever they put

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that in Asia. They can probably do a big crowd

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even in America on a fight like that. So na

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Katani's on the show, he's taken on. Don't I don't

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know uch about the opponent's taken on Sebastian Hernandez Reyes,

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who was twenty and ozer not a world championship fight,

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but the opponent has got twenty wins and eighteen knockouts

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and no loss as a young Mexican, and so you know,

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hopefully it's a test. But again to having in a

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Way and na Katani on the same card, that is tantalizing,

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that is tasty, that is exciting, Like hopefully if they

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both come through with these fights, that that means that

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in the earlier in the next fight, let's say say

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first quarter or so of twenty twenty six, we will

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see at the Tokyo Dome the mega fight between in

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a Way and Nakatani, and that will be, by the way,

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that'll be the biggest commercial fight in Japanese boxing history

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in my opinion, that involves a Japanese fighter. I'm not

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talking about like when they did a huge crowd for

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Mike Tyson against Busbargers, two Americans. I'm talking about Japanese

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versus Japanese major world championship.

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Speaker 2: In Away did fight Luis Nari in the Tokyo Dome. Right,

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He's had a recent big fight in the Tokyo.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm talking. I'm talking. I'm talking Japan versus Japan.

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Two reigning champions, one moving up and weight. I mean,

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it's just such a such a how could it not

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be good? You know what I'm saying? These are superb

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offensive fighters, two very skilled boxers.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: In a way as a megastar, Nakatani has you know,

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seen his star rise over the last several fights, just

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as exciting as and also the thing I love that,

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besides being super exciting, they're not fighting when guys are

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old and shot like. These guys are still top level

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champions in a way, is a pound for pound top

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three guy. Honestly, Nakatani, if you want to put him

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in your top ten, I can't even argue with that.

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You want to put him at the lower part. He's

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been drilling guys left and right, and he's been fighting

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pretty decent opposition also, so he got all that going on,

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and plus you got Taraji moving up and wait to

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challenge for a title at junior bandawaight, and then you

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look at the rest of the card. They got that

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excellent prospect Hyata Hyatto, Sutsumi he's going to challenge James

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Jazzed Dickens, who was the WBA's in term title holder

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in the super featherweight one hundred and thirty pound junior

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lightweight division. Obviously, they've been building to sue me up

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for a bit and Dicken's, you know, was kind of

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in the right place at the right time, you know,

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And then they got a few other of their prospects

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on the card. Also, that to me, And if Turkey

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sticks to what he said by putting these Ring magazine cards,

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it won't be a pay per view. It'll be regular

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to Zone. So hopefully they'll stick to that promise and

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it will not only be a deep card, but it

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won't be a pay per view. So as a way

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to close out the year, that's pretty damn good, I mean.

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But again, I'm just overjoyed to see Nakata.

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Speaker 1: As far as we know, I'm not looking to go

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on for ten more minutes. This is going to be

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a pay per view everywhere again? Or no, I just said.

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Speaker 3: I just said. I just said. If they stick to

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what Turkey has said, the Ring magazine cards are not payper.

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Speaker 1: Are not Okay?

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Speaker 3: Some people make the mistake that the Zone is you know,

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Turkey said no more pay per view, but the Zone

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still will do pay per views. So, but not necessarily

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on a Turkey card. They're going to do pay per

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view on a Frank War card, on a Mattroom card.

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So when they do like Ben and You Bang two,

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I'm pretty sure that's a pay.

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Speaker 2: Per view, can I can I tell you it would

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make more logical business sense that it is a pay

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per view in Japan, where they still do pay per view,

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because that's where the bulk of the big name fighters.

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Speaker 3: It's not a pay per view.

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Speaker 2: But for the rest of us in the world, why

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would this be on on pay per view during the

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day on December twenty seventh? Why would anybody watch even

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with the monster that's.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they put Moses e Tama against against Dylan

472
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,440
White as a pay per view In Japan, the way

473
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,519
that the NAWA fights are delivered are not pay per view.

474
00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:31,279
They don't do pay per view in Japan. They put

475
00:21:31,319 --> 00:21:33,720
it on a streaming service called Lomino. And this fight

476
00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:36,680
card will be on Limino in Japan, but in America

477
00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:38,440
and I think most of the rest of the world,

478
00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:41,359
it'll be on Diszerne. Bottom line is if they stick

479
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,039
to what they claim, it won't cost you anything beyond

480
00:21:44,079 --> 00:21:46,880
what you're normally like, Ok, the zone and that's finally

481
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,000
value for your subscription money.

482
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,839
Speaker 1: All right, good on that.

483
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: One other thing on the business of this, and again

484
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,440
we're making mention of it because this is a good

485
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,440
time because the Naway fight was on the Facebook page

486
00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:02,000
of Top Rank Boxing. I did see this where Bob

487
00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:05,359
Aram gave an interview online and I want to credit correctly.

488
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,039
I think it was fight hub TV where he was

489
00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:09,599
talking to them and the question was put to him

490
00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:13,079
about this fight being on the streaming service and in

491
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,119
his words, I'm not going to do my aar impression

492
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:15,680
to make you laugh.

493
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,519
Speaker 1: In his words, they were.

494
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 2: Trying to find an outlet to put it on, but

495
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,920
the pricing was too high to put the fight on,

496
00:22:24,039 --> 00:22:25,920
so they went ahead and did it on the Facebook page.

497
00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: All right.

498
00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:31,319
Speaker 2: Now, I did look at this earlier in the week.

499
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,880
I have not looked at it today. But Facebook will

500
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,480
allow you, if you allow it, to see how many

501
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,039
people have viewed a video, so that.

502
00:22:39,839 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: Right the live stream says millions.

503
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 2: Now, the first thing you need to understand when you

504
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,200
read on Facebook, that doesn't mean that they actually had millions,

505
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:50,640
because generally speaking, about half of what they show you

506
00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:53,160
is what may or may not have seen it. Most

507
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,160
of the time, when you are scrolling past something with

508
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,279
your finger on your phone, if you scroll past it,

509
00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:02,160
Facebook cance it as a view. Let me say again,

510
00:23:02,599 --> 00:23:06,000
if you scroll past something, Facebook will count it as

511
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,559
a view. And they've done it forever. So that's not

512
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,039
to say that they had six million watching. There's no

513
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,960
way to know that for sure. It's probably much less

514
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,960
than that. Still, I would believe that it maybe had

515
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,319
a million watch or a couple.

516
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,039
Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't promost it well enough.

517
00:23:22,279 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 3: Keep in mind that when they showed it on Facebook,

518
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,400
it wasn't a worldwide thing the Facebook availability because it

519
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,920
was geo blocked. In my right, it was available on

520
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,119
Facebook in the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Philippines. Okay,

521
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,680
so any totals that they would have, but don't be

522
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,559
only from those three.

523
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: Times, all right.

524
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: So then the reporter said to him, do you have

525
00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:44,640
any update on a broadcast deal? And I thought this

526
00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:47,680
was interesting too, where he voiced it and put it

527
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,880
out that he said, I'm not going to go into

528
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,119
it too much, but we've been talking to Peacock and NBC.

529
00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:56,640
We've been talking to Stars, which is the pay channel,

530
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,799
about a possible series. But he had no further up

531
00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:02,519
there except to say that obviously they have a lot.

532
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: Of people that have been working on this.

533
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,279
Speaker 2: I am simply saying this as somebody you always love

534
00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:08,880
to tell You've been doing this for twenty five years.

535
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,119
I've been in the broadcasting business on the national level

536
00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:14,359
for going on about twenty five years now myself. If

537
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,559
we are sitting here in late September and they still

538
00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:21,079
don't have a partner for October, then there's only one

539
00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:25,039
of two explanations. Either one they are trying to get

540
00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:27,920
a similar deal from what they had with ESPN where

541
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,480
all their production is covered and they get some kind

542
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,079
of rights fee or something like that.

543
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: Or two.

544
00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 2: At this point, I think we can begin to criticize

545
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,640
they are reeling, they are stuck, and they don't have

546
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,279
an outlet. Otherwise, why are you letting months go by

547
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,680
where you're out of sight out of mind. I understand

548
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,559
if you're out of sight, out of mind because you're

549
00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:53,160
on the verge of something bigger, and maybe you're gonna

550
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,599
roll it out in November and December.

551
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: If that is the case.

552
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,759
Speaker 2: They should probably leave some breadcrumbs and say that because

553
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,160
now nobody's talking about any of their fighters or their

554
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,720
fights because they've been gone for about ninet days.

555
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,319
Speaker 1: All right, there you go.

556
00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 3: But the fact that no one's talking about them for

557
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,480
a couple of months is not a big deal. I mean,

558
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,960
they got a business to run, and I'm going to

559
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,640
tell you, the rumors of top ranks, to my eyes,

560
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,799
are greatly exaggerated. They just announced literally yesterday, the signing

561
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,279
of a top prospect. If you're going out of business,

562
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:19,799
you're not signing guys your life.

563
00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:21,599
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying going out of business.

564
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,599
Speaker 3: No, I mean I'm not to have a regular I mean.

565
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,039
Speaker 2: They were a regular presence, obviously multi sometimes multiple times

566
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:29,559
in a month.

567
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: They were a regular presence. And now they have no presence.

568
00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:35,839
Speaker 2: And it is it's surprising to me that we're now

569
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,039
sitting here in September, when they knew earlier this year

570
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:41,440
that he has to protoll them it's over with well

571
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,400
that you can be different than me in that regard.

572
00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:47,599
I am joking that I am taking that as a

573
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,519
sign that they didn't have all their ducks in a

574
00:25:50,599 --> 00:25:52,839
row to get something going in October or November, or

575
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:53,759
it would already be there.

576
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: It's all. It's all. It's always been voice to me

577
00:25:57,079 --> 00:25:59,440
that if they were able to get a deal done,

578
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:02,039
and they claim they're talking to multiple people and think

579
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:04,240
there may be multiple deals, we'll see if that comes

580
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,640
to fruition is that maybe there'll be a couple of

581
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,400
things at the end of the year, but that it

582
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,559
was sort of always sort of pointed towards the early

583
00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:13,160
part of next year. So if we're still having the

584
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,960
same conversation like January February, and then I would agree

585
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,480
with you. But until then, I don't even have to

586
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,039
wait that long.

587
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,599
Speaker 2: If we're having a conversation in November that they're nowhere

588
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,279
and they have no deal, then it is confirmed.

589
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,839
Speaker 1: It is confirmed.

590
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,759
Speaker 2: At that point they can't find a deal with anybody

591
00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:32,160
that they want because they've had plenty of time to

592
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:32,519
work for.

593
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 3: Bob mentioning stars and Peacock and Sutch those are the

594
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,960
same among the various things that he said to me

595
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,599
in conversations over the last couple of months, that's not

596
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,559
exactly it. And he also just there for like months.

597
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: And one more thing and then we'll move on. He

598
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,440
also said, we're not necessarily beholden to just one outlet.

599
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,759
It maybe multiple outlets, and so that could be another thing.

600
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,279
But still, if you're a fan of one of the

601
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,680
premier outlets in America that's been having their fighters on TV,

602
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,519
and you're not there in all of August, you know,

603
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:07,680
all of September, and now it looks like for right

604
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,519
now they're not going to have anything for October unless

605
00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:10,640
they suddenly announced something.

606
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: That's how you understand that. But you know, they're doing

607
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,359
their job from the standpoint like it's it's hard to

608
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,400
get these deals done. So I'm not, you know, saying

609
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,319
it's not. But they're keeping their their fighters busy. They're

610
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:23,279
putting prospects on cards. They've got guys on Probox, they

611
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:26,279
put guys on the club shows in California. Obviously they

612
00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:29,480
have like Abdullah Mason and uh, you know he's fighting

613
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,039
on the Read season card in November. Same with the

614
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,160
lightweight what was it, uh, welterweight fight, Brian Norman's on

615
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,359
that card. Uh, they have MICHAELA. Mayor.

616
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: Fighters are plugging in elsewhere. Nobody's saying they're not pluted,

617
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:42,759
but they don't.

618
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,559
Speaker 3: They still got to do that, even if they don't

619
00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:47,759
have their own shows. They got obviously Oshaki Foster the

620
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,480
junior lightweight title. He's defending his title on the Fundora card,

621
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:52,880
so they made they were able to work that out

622
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,240
with PBC. So their fighters are being busy. It just

623
00:27:57,319 --> 00:27:59,960
we don't see them all together in a way. Just

624
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,200
at his fight. They just had Oscar Valdez do with

625
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,200
the fight at home on a ZANMFRA card in Mexico.

626
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:06,799
So they're doing their thing. Everybody just needs to take

627
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:08,640
a deep breath. It'll get worked out. I promise you,

628
00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:09,839
all right.

629
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,279
Speaker 2: We shall sing, all right, Canello Crawford. I thought we

630
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:14,440
had moved past all.

631
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,759
Speaker 3: Of this, but you said that. I don't know why

632
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,559
that Netflix.

633
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: Did announce here what their numbers are. And it is

634
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,960
interesting again how do you count viewers and people and

635
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:27,599
this and this is something else I can share on

636
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,119
after you reveal. All right, so reveal what Netflix has

637
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,519
revealed about how many people watched worldwide it was available

638
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:35,160
worldwide for the main event.

639
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Well, I'm gonna start with the full card

640
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,720
because it was a four bout full card. They claim

641
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,119
that globally it did seventeen point seven million for the

642
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,240
whole show. That's four four bouts, including you know, that

643
00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:49,680
opening lightweight fight that would have put anybody asleep, you

644
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:52,079
know whatever. But so that's still a pretty big number.

645
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:54,440
And then you get to the main event, they say

646
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:59,759
live globally thirty six point six million, and then because

647
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:02,039
people are watching still on a delayed basis through the

648
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:04,240
rest of the weekend, which they count another four and

649
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:06,799
a half million, which brings their total what they claim

650
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,119
forty one point one million people. They say it's the

651
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,839
most viewed men's title fight of this century, which I

652
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:16,119
think it probably is now. Of those twenty of those

653
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,519
forty one million in change that they say watched it

654
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,400
on the service globally, over twenty million of those were

655
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,680
in the United States for the main event.

656
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,039
Speaker 1: Which you would do.

657
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Plus they say another five hundred thousand or so

658
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,000
that we're out of home watching because this was available

659
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,519
Joe Hannen Promotions, which has done closed circuit for all

660
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:38,519
big fights and they've been doing them now for Netflix

661
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,200
for their biggest events also as well as for Dezonne.

662
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,279
They had this available in like twenty seven hundred bars

663
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:46,880
and restaurants, so you know, you go people don't necessarily

664
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,359
want to watch it on their phone or their TV.

665
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,079
They go out to have a beer, chicken, wings, whatever,

666
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:52,039
and they watch it in the big.

667
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: Roun right, understood, all right, So we need a clarification

668
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,799
because they were talking about this with the Paul Tyson numbers.

669
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,559
And then this is also in because Netflix is under

670
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:06,079
scrutiny for those Christmas Day football games that they've done

671
00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:08,160
the last couple of years and we'll do again this year,

672
00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:12,519
because the other broadcasters are saying, wait a minute, your

673
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:15,759
methodology is not the same. So when you're saying people

674
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:17,640
and you have you have the info in fun of you,

675
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:21,640
we've got to be careful on how they're measuring people.

676
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:25,559
Speaker 3: Now. When they're measuring people and households, that's who separatest.

677
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: That, okay, all right, So what they measured before was accounts.

678
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,039
When they talked about Paul and Tyson, they talked about accounts,

679
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,200
and we said at that time it's logical to say

680
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:40,400
that not just a single person is watching on each account.

681
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: As a paper.

682
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: And so then it got and then it got kind

683
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,960
of revised. So I wonder about the methodology here on

684
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:50,759
forty one million, is that accounts are we counting a

685
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:51,640
person and a half.

686
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,119
Speaker 1: How do we ever count a half person two and

687
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:56,720
a half people? What are we? What are we saying

688
00:30:56,759 --> 00:30:59,960
for people? And uh, I'm fascinated to know that.

689
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: So they didn't give a full Did they give a

690
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,319
breakdown and say forty one million people in that release

691
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,440
or is it accounts?

692
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: That's what I would be curious to know.

693
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,559
Speaker 3: I believe it was forty one million people.

694
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: Okay, which means if it's sin, you were saying seventeen

695
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,279
million for the whole card. So I would kind of

696
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:18,519
believe that's an average of like three people a household,

697
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,119
call at fifty million something like that.

698
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's no.

699
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:23,559
Speaker 3: Different DJ than when they would do pay per view numbers.

700
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:26,440
You know, you buy the pay per view in your house,

701
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,119
one person's home, and if it's like Dala Hoya or

702
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,319
it's Mayweather or it's Canelo or it's some big, big fight,

703
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,920
most people are not just buying the paper even watching

704
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,799
them by themselves in their living room. They have a party,

705
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,480
they have friends over, neighbors over, you know that type

706
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:45,240
of thing. I mean, I when I when I would

707
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,359
not go to if I was well, I would go

708
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,920
to most of the pay per view fights in the government.

709
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480
But on the rare occasion where I was home and

710
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:53,319
I was watching because I wasn't traveling, but I was

711
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:55,880
obvious still going to write, I'm probably one of the

712
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,160
only dorks in America that was buying the paper even

713
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,000
watching it literally by myself, you know what I mean,

714
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:01,599
because I didn't want to watch with anybody else. I

715
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,119
could have invited my neighbors over in this and that,

716
00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:06,400
but I did. Most people are watching in a group

717
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,960
of people like I would go to fights, like I

718
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,119
remember I went to like Mayweather McGregor, for example, to

719
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,720
cover it. But I ordered the pay per view because

720
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,519
my wife was sort of interested and invited over like

721
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,000
friends and neighbors and like a little party, even though

722
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:23,359
I wasn't even here. So picture that at homes all

723
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,200
over the country. It's going to be a lot of people.

724
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,480
Suffice it to say, whatever it is, the fight between

725
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:33,440
Canelo and and Crawford did a very big number, certainly

726
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,559
a lot more than any fight you could think of

727
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:38,319
that was ever in the history of HBO or Showtime

728
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,839
or even on ESPN in its recent incarnation. You know,

729
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,799
the top ranked fights, you know, if they did a

730
00:32:43,839 --> 00:32:45,960
big number I remember when when they kicked off the

731
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,720
deal in twenty seventeen with Many Paco, they had a

732
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:51,559
live Many Packyo Jeff forrnfight, not pay per view, live

733
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:54,960
in prime time on ESPN regular, not even ESPN two

734
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:58,839
or an alternate channel on regular ESPN. It did like

735
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:00,480
four million viewers or.

736
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: Something, which is a large number for this era and

737
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,440
and how TV has declined. Okay, so one other interesting

738
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,880
note on this. Then we're going to move on the

739
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,480
on the minutia because again, let me.

740
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: Just compare this real quick though. I said to forty

741
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,000
one point one million, which was mostly live, but then

742
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:18,640
through the weekend when they did the Tyson Jake Paul fight,

743
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,160
which was in November, that's a different level because it's

744
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,519
maybe not a world title fight, fine, but the names

745
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:26,000
of Tyson and j Paul were so much greater. So

746
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:28,440
just to put it in comparison, when they announced that,

747
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:32,079
they said it was watched in sixty million households worldwide,

748
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:35,960
one hundred and eight million viewers globally, peaking at sixty

749
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,240
five million concurrent streams.

750
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: And I know people bigger.

751
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,519
Speaker 2: There were people that were saying that those numbers were

752
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,119
dubious and their methodology is dubious that it was not

753
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,440
that big. So there's been accusations of that. Now here's

754
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,559
a reference point. This is interesting. For Christmas Day last year,

755
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:56,039
for the NFL double heav header, Netflix announced this, this

756
00:33:56,079 --> 00:34:00,160
is their own announcement, that they averaged right at thirty

757
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,279
one million people for the doubleheader. The chief Steelers game

758
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:07,240
drew thirty million. The Ravens Texans game actually drew thirty

759
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:08,440
one million.

760
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:10,159
Speaker 1: I have twenty six and a half.

761
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: Twenty six and a half million of that was in

762
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,719
the United States, because again Netflix is global.

763
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,639
Speaker 1: So if I'm interesting.

764
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:20,039
Speaker 2: That Canelo and Quawford by their own methodology outdrew those

765
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:21,800
Christmas Day games for what it's worth.

766
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: Now, if I'm not mistaken when they did the NFL games,

767
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,119
because there was questions about their methodology that for the

768
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:32,719
football games, they hired Nielsen to do the ratings. To

769
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,079
my knowledge, Nielsen had nothing to do with the connect.

770
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: And so that's where some people are pushing back and

771
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,840
saying that's not a real number. In the same methodology,

772
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,519
here's the most measures everything else.

773
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:46,159
Speaker 3: Right, The bottom line is they did Tyson and Jake

774
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,039
Paul and they went back and did another boxing because

775
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:51,360
they liked the results whenever they were and they did

776
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,320
the They did the all women's card with Serrono and

777
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,800
Taylor three that took place in July that did about

778
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,920
from what their announcements were, about six million global viewers.

779
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,840
So there's a difference between.

780
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,079
Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm not doubting that they got

781
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:07,159
forty million people to watch that either live or even

782
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:09,880
on demand in the in the subsequent twenty four hours

783
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,320
or thirty six hours after the fight.

784
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:14,199
Speaker 3: When they did Tyson and Jake, the number they announced

785
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:16,199
the women's fight. That's why they made the caveat the

786
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:19,400
most viewed men's championship boxing in the rent because on

787
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,559
the Tyson undercard with Jake Paul, the second fight between

788
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:26,039
Katie Taylor and Toronto, which was the sensational, bloody battle

789
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:28,239
even better than maybe the first fight. They say it

790
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,840
was seen in nearly fifty million households by seventy five

791
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,440
million viewers, and then obviously it increased when they got

792
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,400
to the main event. But the main the proof in

793
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,400
the pudding is this, they did the Jake and Tyson

794
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,639
and they were happy with the results, so they invested

795
00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:44,159
more money and did the all women's card that did

796
00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:46,840
a nice number and they were still impressed even though

797
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,199
it only did only in quote marks six million, and

798
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,280
they came back and paid an enormous amount of money

799
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,679
to do the fight between Canelo and Terence Crawford, and

800
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,440
obviously I have to believe they're happy with the results overall,

801
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,440
even though they know the result of the fight. They've

802
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,360
also ponied up because they're doing the Kakamami exhibition hatch

803
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:09,000
between Jake and Gervonda Davis. They're going to have a

804
00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:11,199
presence in boxing as long as they draw in a

805
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:13,079
decent amount of viewers for some bigger events, and that's

806
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:13,760
a good thing.

807
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,679
Speaker 2: Kkham Mami Paka Mami makes the pot. Well, we'll talk

808
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:19,079
more about that fight in a minute. One more loose

809
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:22,400
end to tie up. We did theorize on Sunday night.

810
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,239
I brought it up that an immediate rematch would be

811
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,639
fascinating with Mabilli and Martinez, and the WBC says they

812
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,320
want that immediate rematch.

813
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,559
Speaker 1: The Martinez camp wants that rematch.

814
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: All right, what's the latest, Because that doesn't actually automatically

815
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:38,559
mean there will be a rematch go ahead.

816
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,039
Speaker 3: Well, what it means is that the two sides were

817
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,840
ordered to do the rematch. Obviously, they can't force anybody

818
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,079
to fight, but what they did do is see a

819
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:49,800
fantastic battle where Christian Mbilly and Less Martinez fought to

820
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,840
a galatious draw. It seemed to me like a legit draw.

821
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:55,679
I mean, I can't really find fault with the you know,

822
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,599
with with how close and first of all, there were

823
00:36:57,639 --> 00:36:59,400
so many close rounds. The fact that it weren't out

824
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,079
of a draw isn't a shocker because you could score

825
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:04,599
any bunch of those rounds either which way. As it

826
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:07,079
turned out, one judge had it for Mobilly, one judge

827
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:08,840
hat of for Martinez, one judge had it. Even that

828
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,960
seemed very Legit was such a close, competitive fight. It

829
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,679
would have been kind of heartbreaking for anybody to lose

830
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,719
that fight. But by the draw, Mobility retains his interim title.

831
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,320
And when that was over, Lester Martinez this team immediately,

832
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,199
you know, a filed and appeal with the WBC. Now

833
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,079
they moved rather quickly, and it usually it takes at least,

834
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:26,320
you know, a week or whatever. But the fight was

835
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,400
on Saturday, and here we are, I think it was

836
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,679
on Wednesday of this week, where Mauricio Suliman announced that

837
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,320
they had put the vote to the Board of Governors

838
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,280
and they decided that the best course of action would

839
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,679
be to order them to do a rematch. So they

840
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:42,159
are in their free negotiation period. I mean, obviously they're

841
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:44,199
going to have some time to rest and chill out on.

842
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,760
They're not expecting they get back in the ring and

843
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,360
fight next week or anything. But there'll be a countdown

844
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,079
at some point where they have to, you know, have

845
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:51,679
a deadline to make a deal or they'll call a

846
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,960
pur spid. And if you know Lesser Martinez de Side

847
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,199
wants to rematch, they wouldn't ask for it. And we'll

848
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,519
see if Mabilly decides to take it if it'll be

849
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,760
another tremendous fight. I hope this time they make it

850
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,119
for twelve rounds, not the nonsense of a ten rounder

851
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:07,280
for an interim title. If he doesn't take the fight,

852
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,239
then it'll be stripped to the interim title and he

853
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,480
can go about his business and fight whoever. But that

854
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:14,239
was a great, great fight, a bona fide Fight of

855
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,840
the Year candidate. It will be on everybody's lists come

856
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,639
December when we start talking about the fights of the year.

857
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:21,360
I don't know if it's going to necessarily win, but

858
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,519
it was a superb action fight. I think when we

859
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:27,599
were going into Canelo Crawford, everybody that sort of knew

860
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:30,199
about anything to do with that fight figured that might

861
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:31,760
be the fight of the night, even if it wasn't

862
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,639
sexy names. And you know, it lived up to that that.

863
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,960
It's what I thought, and it turned out to be

864
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,360
even better than I thought. So you know, the rematch

865
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:40,480
is warranted. It was a draw. It was a great fight,

866
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:42,440
and you put them together and there's a reason I

867
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,320
think people will be excited if they do a second fight.

868
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: All Right, stay tuned on whether Mobilly actually wants to

869
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,599
do that or not. Okay, you mentioned Jake Paul and

870
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:54,840
Gervonte Davis, which we have lampooned you like that word,

871
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,480
I know, and lampooned on the same podcast. Okay, it

872
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:03,480
naing in Atlanta, like they announced they did announce earlier

873
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,599
this week. It's now coming my way to the Sunshine

874
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:10,440
State of Florida and to Miami. All right, give me

875
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,239
a little more. I mean, obviously they were having a

876
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,199
problem getting it sanctioned in Georgia.

877
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: That's obvious. So go ahead and fill in the.

878
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: Rest, right, So the fight scheduled still the dates the

879
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,880
same on Netflix on November fourteenth, and they announced the

880
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,880
fight when they did, you know, however, many weeks ago,

881
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:28,119
that it would take place at the State Farm Arena

882
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:30,000
in Atlanta, which is actually a place where a tank

883
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:33,480
had fought previously and sold out. And so, okay, they're

884
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:36,440
doing that. And they had scheduled a two fight or

885
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:39,039
rather a two city media tour where they're going to

886
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:43,079
do a press conference in New York City followed up

887
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:44,840
by a second press convererce the next day that would

888
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,599
take place in Atlanta. Was supposed to be this week

889
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,599
and obviously did not happen. And then it was on

890
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,800
Wednesday of this week where they announced that the fight

891
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,320
would not take place at the State From Arena. They

892
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,000
would go and take the fight to Miami and do

893
00:39:57,079 --> 00:39:59,639
it in the then you know, the arena where the

894
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:03,559
Miami play in. What is it called the the KISA Center.

895
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: The correct, new name, new sponsor.

896
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,119
Speaker 2: Correct, used to be the American Airlines Arena.

897
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 3: You know, so I covered like Felix Trinidad in that building. Anyway,

898
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,000
So now it's going to.

899
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,599
Speaker 2: Tell me about an eighteen nineteen thousand seed arena, not

900
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:18,760
unlike the Team Mobile arena, and.

901
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: They'll probably sell it out. Whether it was instance, absolutely yeah,

902
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:24,800
problem so. But the interesting part of it was so

903
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:28,719
you asked, well, okay, why they move it? So it's

904
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,440
hard to it. Didn't really get a straight answer from

905
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:32,280
MVP about it when I inquired. But if you take

906
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,559
a look at some of the media, my old stomping

907
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:36,519
ground where I used to work, where I first started

908
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:39,920
as a boxing reporter at USA Today had a report

909
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:43,119
that an MVP had withdrawn their requests for the permits

910
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:45,920
and all the waivers they needed to do for the

911
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,559
event because they hadn't I guess, done the right stuff

912
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:51,880
or that they needed to do to get approval from

913
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,280
the Georgia Commission. And the person that is the executive

914
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,000
director of that body said in a quote to the

915
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:03,000
USA Today newspaper that they MVP was promoting something they

916
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:05,840
should not have been. So perhaps they were promoting something

917
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,119
before they had gotten all their ductionalized. Dot at T's

918
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:12,320
cross had yet to fill in the blanks on certain things,

919
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,960
not saying they did anything wrong, just that they hadn't

920
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000
done anything that they hadn't done it maybe in the

921
00:41:18,039 --> 00:41:21,840
right order in the method that the commission expected. Regardless,

922
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,599
they're clearly if you read some of the quotes from

923
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,719
the commissioner or from the executive director rather and some

924
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,360
quotes that were in an ESPN article from the Kisa Badarin,

925
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,920
who is the co founder and Jake's parter in MVP,

926
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,920
clearly they're like oil and water, and so they're gonna

927
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,559
go do this fight in Miami. They still are gonna

928
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:41,719
have to go through the same process because they still

929
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,880
haven't said. I assume they'll do this at the press conference,

930
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:46,880
because they've rescheduled that two city tour to take place

931
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,639
next week, one in New York, one in Miami, which

932
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:51,519
for fans that care, they are open and free to

933
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:53,440
the public to attend if you want to see the

934
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,760
show six pm and the Palladium in Manhattan on Monday,

935
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:02,119
and then on Tuesday at that Cassia Center in Miami's

936
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:05,480
like I said, six pm. And presumably when they get

937
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,519
there they'll announce the particulars like how many rounds I'm

938
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:11,760
told it's ten. They'll announce if there's any rule stipulations,

939
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,199
any changes and he tweaks. They have to address the

940
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:18,440
weight situation and that's what we're waiting for. If you

941
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,079
care about the event in the first place.

942
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: Yes, if you care, And I've already used farcicle previously

943
00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:25,719
on all of this, and you can read into all

944
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,599
of that that the Georgia Commission likely was not going

945
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:29,360
to approve this.

946
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:32,039
Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm not stuck to their plan.

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Speaker 2: They would have stuck to their plan on where they

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wanted to fight, but they had not gotten approval, and

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I think they believe, I mean, it's incumbent on them

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to tell us what the truth is. If you want

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to tell us the truth, did you talk to them?

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Because let me give you an example. If I remember

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this correctly, I believe Antonio Tarvar was going to fight

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on the undercard of the MVP show during the pandemic

955
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craziness in Atlanta and in Georgia, and the Georgia Commission said, no,

956
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we're not going to let him fight because he's been

957
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out of the ring too long and the age disparity

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from who he's fighting. We're not gonna let it happen.

959
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So they've been stringing in the past. I can't speak

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to over and over again on you've got to follow

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certain guidelines and maybe part of that I'm speculating now

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is the weight disparity is so great they are not

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going to be able to overcome it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't really remember that situation with Tarbor. But the

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bottom line is this, wherever they would try to do

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this exhibition Florida, Georgia or anywhere else, you have to

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address And again I'm not saying they're hiding it. I'm

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sure they will address it when they do these news conferences.

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I mean, I hope somebody in the media that's their asks.

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But we all know Jake Paul is a two hundred

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pound cruiser weight. That's right, bought it? Have you weigh

973
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two twenty something against Tyson and Tank Davis is one

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hundred and thirty five pound champion. So they are if

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they're on their normal fighting weight, they're separated by one thing.

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Speaker 1: For separated, particularly seventy pounds.

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Speaker 3: They do a catch weight, they're separated by sixty five pounds.

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That's like that's like half the strawweight, right, the strawweight.

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Speaker 2: So they will have press conferences next week, it would appear,

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and still it will still it will still be on

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for November as far as we know.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep it.

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Speaker 2: One other note before we're out of here, and that

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is Katie Taylor, off that win over Amanda Serrano, the

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third win in the trilogy. She won all three fights,

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has now said to the WBC that she is taking

987
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some time off. They've named her the champion in recess.

988
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And what does that mean for that title? At one

989
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hundred and forty pounds, Dan.

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Speaker 3: Raphael, Well, she's the undisputed champion and but at age

991
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:33,039
thirty nine, after some very vicious, brutal, hard fights against

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Katie that Katie has had both with Serrano, with Chantel

993
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Cameron and others, she's taken some time off to do

994
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things in her personal life and whatever. And while she

995
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says she still wants to have another fight, she's still

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desperate to have a fight in a place called Croke Park,

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which is the big stadium you know where she's from

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in Ireland. She wants to do that desperately. We'll see

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00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,719
if they can pull that off, but for the time being,

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they're not going to be able to force her back

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into the ring. The WBC had previously ordered her to

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make her dumb BBC mandatory, which I guess they were

1003
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next up in the rotation of mandatories, and that was

1004
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against the interim WBC champion, which is Chantell Cameron, who's

1005
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the former undisputed champion who has had two phenomenal fights

1006
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with Katie Taylor. She gave her the big upset in

1007
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Dublin in the first fight to defend the title ye

1008
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and then Katie came back in the immediate rematch and

1009
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won another similarly incredibly action packed, very close majority decision

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to win the title in the rematch. So they had

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ordered them because she had become the interim champion, to

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00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:32,480
do the third fight, and she apparently just you know not.

1013
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I don't think she's ducking Chantel Cameron. She just wanted

1014
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to do some other things and not necessarily fight under

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00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,800
the timeframe that they had proposed. So this is the

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nice way of saying you're stripped of the title. But

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caveat is if you decide to come back, so they're in.

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What the in recess gives you the privilege to do

1019
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is if she decides to come back and she wants

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to fight for the WBC title, she's next up. She

1021
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can cut the line. Basically, it's it's a show of

1022
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respect to a great champion. The Tally Klisco years ago

1023
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when he retired because of injury and had to cancel

1024
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a fight with Hassim Rockman, he was given the title

1025
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of a recess champion. He was out for almost four

1026
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years or so. He came back. In his first fight back,

1027
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he challenged Samuel Peter, who had become the WBC champion,

1028
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and he took him apart and won the title back. So,

1029
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if Katie Taylor decides to come back tomorrow, next year,

1030
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two years, whatever, whoever is the holder of the WBC

1031
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,599
Women's title in the one hundred and forty pound weight class,

1032
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she can have next up in the meantime with that title,

1033
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:34,239
you know, being vacated. Now, who's going to fill the title?

1034
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,280
Obviously Chantel Cameron's the number one challenger and the interim champion,

1035
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so they have ordered Chantel Cameron to match up with

1036
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the former WBO Women's champion, which is Sandy Ryan, who

1037
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:47,039
had two tremendous battles with Mikaela Meyer most recently. Obviously

1038
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:49,400
one of the better women in that weight class. She's

1039
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,239
going to be coming down, I guess, from welterweight to

1040
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,039
fight at junior walter. Wait if this fight is finalized,

1041
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:58,400
So Sandy Ryan against Chantel Cameron in women's boxing, especially

1042
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,000
for the UK as a very n fight to phill

1043
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,519
what is now that title, And we'll see what Katie

1044
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:05,159
does in the future. I hope she does. She's been

1045
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:07,960
such a credit to boxing. She's been such a nice person,

1046
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,599
such a great competitor, such a tremendous warrior. Now we

1047
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,639
hope that when it's all said and done, before she

1048
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:15,920
does hang him up for good, she gets her dream

1049
00:47:16,199 --> 00:47:18,559
to fight in that stadium in Ireland and put on

1050
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:19,639
a big show for her fans.

1051
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,079
Speaker 1: Yep, they've been wanting to make that happen.

1052
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 2: They're trying to make one of the Serrano fights happen,

1053
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,000
and it didn't happen in there. From that, Okay, with that,

1054
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:29,599
I think we have pretty well covered all of it again.

1055
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:33,920
The Coalazzo main event for the Golden Boy Dezone show

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is Saturday night in Indio, California, So we look forward

1057
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to that one. Gabriella Fundora defending her undisputed women's flyweight

1058
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,199
title in the co feature will come off the weekend

1059
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recap that go over some news etc.

1060
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Speaker 1: Other than that. Are we ready for the weekend? I

1061
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believe we are.

1062
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Speaker 3: I'm ready.

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All of that helps. Other than that, Dan, have a

1076
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good weekend. We'll talk to you off the weekend after

1077
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the Colaso show in California for.

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Speaker 3: Golden Boy sounds good. Talk to you.

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