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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life presented by fan Tracks. Here's shits,

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your source of information and analysis to help you win

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Speaker 2: Block off hot a, step hit on, staylock blocks.

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Speaker 3: Here's your hosts, Jesse Sevier and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 4: Fantasy Hockey Live back once again. Jesse Severe, fan Tracks,

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Victor Nunyoe the Fantasy Hockey Doctor. Victor, how you doing today?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing awesome. Jesse, how you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good. I'm doing good. It's been a summer.

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There's no there's very little news coming out at this

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point in the hockey world. Thirty two thoughts crashed in

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a few weeks ago and did a pot. The thing

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that's on my mind about the type of thing that

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we do, Victor, is prospect hockey in a mess right now,

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Like all the leagues are just going crazy. USHL is

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losing to the CHL, the CHL is losing to the NCAA.

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Who knows what's going on with all these other things.

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Can we ever start getting along with a KHL again?

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And this impacts the way we do scouting and stuff

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right What do you think, Victor? Is hockey prospect world

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in a mess? Or is this a topic for an

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entire show We could.

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Speaker 5: Do Sometimes it's probably a topic for an entire show,

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I would say, But I would say, like with anything,

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like when we see with our fantasy teams and our leagues,

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every time there is a shake up, every time there's injuries,

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every time there's big changes, it's also an opportunity, right,

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And so that's what we're seeing right now. There's lots

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of opportunity. Things are changing. The players have more power

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than they ever have, and frankly, I think it's a

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good swing in general. Maybe it's swinging hard the other direction,

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but for a long time, these players had the thumb

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under them and they didn't really have a lot of

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options of where they could go. They were very limited,

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things out of their control. Decisions we were being made

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that were not best for their development. So if it

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swings a little bit towards being able to make a

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little bit money while they're on their way and have

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a little bit more control over their development and destiny,

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then I'm generally in favor of that. So it will

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re equilibrate, though, will there's a big shake up happening

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and it will shift things pretty significantly and We'll have

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to see where it goes. But yeah, there's definitely a

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lot of changes right now for sure.

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Speaker 4: Maybe if NCAA really picks up and becomes stronger, maybe

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a silver lining for the likes of me is more

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prospect hockey on TV. Canadians probably disagree. It's probably the

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opposite there, or at least some of the stars that

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Gavin mckennons might not be on TV as much. In

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any event, Victor, That's the sort of thing people can

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It's just a cool place. Discords are like that. They

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Speaker 4: Time for our big interview. Welcome back to the shoe,

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Dave Minook of the Illegal Curve podcast and network and

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all those things. Dave, how you doing today?

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Speaker 6: I am doing great, Jesse enjoying summer here in Manitoba.

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Speaker 4: There you go, there you go, all five days of it.

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You got to enjoy it, Yes, sir no, I appreciate

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I'm up in Wisconsin. We're all in the same world here,

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so yeah, it's fun talking Jets, more fun than it's

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been in years. Man the President's Trophy winners, team record

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and standings points tied for the most goals easily, the

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best goal differential in team history, best shooting percentage in

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team history, two first Team All Stars, including one who

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won not only the Visina but the Heart Trophy. A

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goalie win in the Heart Trophy doesn't happen every day

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all from arguably, I keep saying to this offseason, the

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toughest of the four divisions. A lot went really well

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for these Jets until round two when this year's main character,

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Miko Rantnin, helped ruin it for everybody up in Winnipeg. Now,

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Nick Eelers, the star of the offseason, is gone off

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to Carolina. The team is basically intact. Can the Jets

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run back this regular season and have the proverbial puncher's

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chance like everybody else does when they get in the

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playoffs at the Cup next year?

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Speaker 6: The short answer is yes, and the longer answer involves

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a guy dam Connor Hellibuck. And whenever you have Connor

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Hellibuck in goal of az now winner three times, and

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of course, as you said, Jesse the Heart Trophy.

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Speaker 3: Winner in nets, you can do anything.

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Speaker 6: Of course, he had some struggles like the team did

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in the playoffs against the Saint Louis Blues in the

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first round, but he definitely got things back under control

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against the Dallas Stars. And yeah, I don't think the

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Jets are going to have quite the season. They did

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have the benefit of a lot of guys being in

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contract years last year and having career seasons as you

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for them to be President's Trophy winners. I don't really

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believe in the curse, but I think that they're likely

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with the loss of nik Lai Eeler's and the question

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marks surrounding what Jonathan Taves has left in the tank.

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Ada Lowry is going.

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Speaker 3: To be back exactly. We expect it to be.

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Speaker 6: Sometime in October or November, so there's going to be

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a bit of a committee up the middle. And I

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in the Central have improved, with the exception maybe of Chicago,

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that you're going to anticipate that the other teams around

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them are going to get better, which will probably weaken

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the Jets in the sense that they may not accomplish

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what they did last year. But at the same time,

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I think they'll probably still be in the mix and

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they may be a better team because of the way

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they have to play as a result.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Connor is the first guy to talk about from

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this team. Ninety seven points seventh in the NHL, a

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career high. He Vallardi and Schifley, and we'll talk about

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Vallardi and Shifley more in a minute. They played nine

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hundred and five five on five minutes together. That's the

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most in the NHL. Nine hundred five for those guys,

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one one hundred and sixty more than the runner up

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line for the most minutes. Just insane how much those

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guys played together, and they were dominant when they were.

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The scoring was not related. Sometimes you see a guy

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with a career high in points while it's just because

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he was on a hot shooting rampage. He had fifteen

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point four percent. That's pretty consistent with fourteen point seven

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percent career, So it's not about that. Ale Connor just

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real good at shooting and real good at playing hockey.

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Was this a major escalation in Connor's game? And can

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he repeat? And then the scary question is this is

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Speaker 6: I'll ask, I'll answer your first one last now, and

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I think it is not. I think that he is

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a guy who is very much a part of the

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culture of this team. We heard Elliott Friedman talking about

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the Jets how they like each other as a group,

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and this is a group that very much gets along

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generally when you're winning. It's easy to get along. Everybody

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gets along when you're winning. But I think that Kyle

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Connor is really, of course we know, drafted by the

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win Big Jets back in twenty fifteen and grew up

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within the organization. Of course played for the Moose after

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his first season went down to the Moose clicked.

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Speaker 3: You just saw how prolific this guy is.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, for anybody who was back in Michigan and Ann

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Arbor watching him at the University of Michigan, they got

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to see a guy who probably should have won the

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Hoby Baker that year because he was just so dominant

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on that CCM line. And he's continued that He's just

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an absolutely lethal shooter. Davis Payne was on the Jets

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assistant coach was on it with Andy Strickland on his podcast,

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and he was talking about some of the surprises because

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Davis Payne, of course just finished his first year here

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in Winnipeg, and he talked about just how good Kyle

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Speaker 3: An opposing coach, this is one of the guys you

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have to shut down.

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Speaker 6: But when you get to watch him in practice and

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in games, you get to see just how dynamic he

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is and he's improved offensively, because that's not We're never

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going to confuse Cayle Connor as a guy who's gonna

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win a Selkie.

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Speaker 3: He's never gonna be at Patrice berger on.

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Speaker 6: But much like a lot of the Jets, the way

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this team, Scott O'Neil has built them is based on

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team first defense and then the offense comes as a

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result of that. And Kyle Connor, as you said, Jesse

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forty one goals fifty six assists, almost became the first

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Jets player ever to hit the one hundred point mark.

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Not quite, probably should be, probably will likely be that guy.

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And my guess is that he is going to sign

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a long term extension. I don't think you're going to

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see a similar situation as the Jets had this year.

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Speaker 3: With Nikolai Eelers.

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Speaker 6: And to be fair, Nikolai Eielers handled it the way

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he wanted to handle it. Didn't want to talk about it.

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Media asked him about it. Not consistently. They asked him

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a few times, but for the most part, it was

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kind of one of those things not really wanting to discuss.

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But I think the Jets will have learned from that mistake,

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won't want a situation similar to what happened last year.

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Speaker 3: So my guess is that Kyle Connor and Adam Lowry.

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Speaker 6: We can talk about Lowry later, but I suspect those

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two will sign long term extensions here in Winnipeg.

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Speaker 3: And I do believe Kyle.

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Speaker 6: Connor is continuing just to get better and better in

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terms of how good a goal scorer. But again, Jesse,

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one of the things that nobody talks about. It's just

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how good his passing is. And when you have guys

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like Mark Shifley, Gabriel Valardi on your line and you

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mentioned how many minutes they've played together, they just they're

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automatic and they are just so good in terms of

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finding each other. So yeah, I anticipate a very similar

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sort of production for Cale Connor because he's just that good,

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and we always see it. In contract years, guys tend

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to get a little bit more elevated, a little bit

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more motivated, and the points sometimes increase as a result.

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Speaker 4: Well Mark Shifley, next guy to talk about, also hit

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a career high in scoring at the ripe old age

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of thirty one. He led the NHL in game winning goals.

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That happens when you win lots of games. Somebody has

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to be doing that. He had eleven of them. He

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takes just over two shots a game. Maybe that's because

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he doesn't need three shots a game because they all

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go in the second time at least twenty one point

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seven percent of his shots too. He was sixth in

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tom and ice among forwards in the league. He is

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a very known commodity goals above. Her placement was very

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positive with him this year. You mentioned defense before, and

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both he and Connor. I don't think I'm out over

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my skis too much to say that their even strength

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defense in past years has been not so good, pretty bad,

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at least from a statistical standpoint, and then last year

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it was about par which is great, right I mean,

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and maybe the system that they were playing in obviously

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was very successful. Having Connor Hillibuck behind you helps. So

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Speaker 6: You know, again, I've said this before, but I'll say

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it again, much like Steve Eisman had to change his

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game in order for the Detroit Red Wings to become

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Stanley Cup champions, And of course he didn't do it

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by himself, but what he had to do was go

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from being that offensive player to understanding that you need

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to play a defensive You have to have in the

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defensive element to your game. We know Shiflee is a

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big Stevie WI fan, He's a big Red Wings fan

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growing up. Now of course the Jets fan. But the

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fact of the matter is that he knew he's got

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his contract, his contractors.

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Speaker 3: Established, he's went a big Jet for life. He's signed that.

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Speaker 6: Of course that matching long term extension with Connor Hallibuck

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at the same time and points are great, but for

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him it's legacy, And how do you gain a legacy?

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He gain a legacy in this league by winning a

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Stanley Cup. So it's great to have points, but it's

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more important to have a legacy. And this kid's gonna

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end up having a statue beside his idol here in

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Winnipeg with Dale Howard Chuck, I would imagine the first step,

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of course, draft pick of these Jets, not Howard Chuck,

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of course shifey. And from my perspective, he's just recognizing now,

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like this is what I have to do to win,

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and I have to change my game. And again, like

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you said, thirty nine goals, forty eight assists. It's not

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like he didn't the points didn't come, but he had

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to change in order to fit within this system that

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Scott O'Neil has really instituted.

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Speaker 3: And I think he's thrived as a result.

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Speaker 6: And I have to say it, and again, I know

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we'll get into Tave's later, but I think the benefit

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of a guy because this Jets team, as good as

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they've been, you know, the best they've done is a

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Western Conference final in seventeen eighteen.

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Speaker 3: This team hasn't won at the pro level. You have

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a lot of guys who.

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Speaker 6: Have won at the junior level, but in the pros

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you haven't gotten to that you have. Luke Schen really

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is their primary guy for Stanley Cup experience. So when

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you bring a guy like Jonathan Taves, the impact he's

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going to have on a Mark Schify potentially, especially face

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offs that sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: I know, faceoff sometimes get pillaried a little bit, but

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still pretty important.

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Speaker 6: And I think that for Shifley, he's going to be

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motivated by to learn under a guy like Taves.

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Speaker 3: But the other thing, the other primary.

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Speaker 6: Driver, and I know that he was not happy about

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not getting selected to the four Nations this year, is

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the fact that the Olympics and the carrot of the

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Olympics is going to be there for him next year.

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We know that he was he and Josh Morrissey were

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invited to the Hockey Canada camp that's been held in

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Calgary in late August.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, this to me is.

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Speaker 6: One of those things that's going to motivate him because

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he really again I go back to that idea of legacy.

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Whenever you get to play on an Olympic team with

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the best of the best, way in your nation's flag,

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there's going to be a lot of desire by him

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to get that so there's that's motivating him this year.

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But also again, like I said, going back to the

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idea of winning with this group, These guys want to

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win together. They've been essentially the same nucleus for the

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last decade almost, so I definitely think that you're going

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to see a motivated and hungry Mark Scheifley this season.

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Speaker 4: And the third end of that line, Gabriel Ballardi. He

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will continue to be a Jet thanks to signing a

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six year deal to avoid restrictive free agency. That's great

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news as he's finally coming into his own sticking point

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as it's been throughout his career is health. He almost

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made it through the year until sustaining an upper body

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engine near the end of the season. Seventy one games

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did mark a career high, and he did come back

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to the playoffs for the back half of the Blues

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and All the Stars series. Now the commitment is there

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from the team, hopefully Valardi can stay healthy. By the

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way that pld aid pays off quite a bit more

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than maybe some people thought it was at the time,

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produce on this excellent line. What are you expecting is

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Falardi going to stay on this line? And what's he

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going to do next year.

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Speaker 6: An excellent question because the one kind of knock without

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Nikolai Eelers is you no longer have a driver on

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that second line.

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Speaker 3: And of course I'm sure again we'll talk about Cole Profetti.

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Speaker 6: We don't know if he's ready to become a driver

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in the NHL the way Eelers was. He's quite a

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bit younger, so is he ready to hit that level?

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And so might the Jets because of the way they're currently.

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You can't just pretend like you just get rid of Elers.

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What twenty four goals, thirty nine assists or something like that.

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So he had a big impact, and you saw what

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he did with that power play unit, best power play

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in the NHL. So the question with respect to Vollardi

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is whether they mix things up and share the wealth

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a little bit and try and make that second line

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add a little bit of impact to that second line

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by giving someone like Volardi moving Valardi there Again, I

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don't know if that's going to happen. We'll see, of

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course in training camp how things somewhat shake out. But regardless,

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but interestingly to me, Jesse was the fact that I

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didn't anticipate I didn't know what he was going to sign,

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because he gave rib of lood.

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Speaker 3: He's a different sort of guy, right, He's a little

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bit cagy with.

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Speaker 6: Us sometimes in the media, and he doesn't necessarily lay

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it all out there, and so we weren't. I wasn't

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certain what kind of deal he was going to get.

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We didn't know, and you're right, it's that PLD trade

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tree continues to bear fruit because I wrote earlier when

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they signed that six year deal, and I think key

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from his mediavailability when we spoke to him, sounded like

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a guy who's really motivated. One of his quotes was,

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I want people to look at that contract and think

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I left money on the table. And I think that

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he has got a bit of a There is a

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bit of a chip in terms of the health and

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wanting to stay healthy. And you could tell and absent

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that I wouldn't call it necessarily a slew food.

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Speaker 3: But he took a bit of a kind of took.

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Speaker 6: Air on that game against I think it was against

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the Sabers, and which took him out at the end

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of the regular season.

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Speaker 3: But he was having a great season.

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Speaker 6: It was a career year, as you said, so for him,

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he sees an opportunity to play potentially on the top

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line in the NHL or one of the top lines

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in the NHL for the next several years, provided, of course,

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Kyle Connor resigns. And so from my perspective, you've got

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a guy who is again amped up to show that

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he deserved the contract that he signed with the Winnipeg Jets,

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and I suspect you're gonna have a guy who's very motivated,

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similar to Scheiffey and the Connor.

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Speaker 7: After Eeler's signed elsewhere, the biggest story certainly turned to

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Cole Profetti, who remains unsigned as we speak here. He's

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currently an RFA second full season with Winnipeg, seventy to

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one games played previously and this season he played all

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eighty two had fifty points. The Bash with Purfetti has

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never been there three point one two per game, pretty low,

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ranking him four hundred and fifty second. I guess the

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biggest question, Dave is how do you see the contract

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situation working out and what do you expect from Profetti

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moving forward? Here?

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Speaker 6: I'll just be clear Proffetti's still signed Victor. Yeah, I know,

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he signed a two years deal last year, so he

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still got a year left on his contract with the Jets. Interestingly,

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from his perspective, he took a opportunity on himself. It's

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like a bet on myself sort of thing, because you,

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like I said, you wanted to see is he going

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to get to that next level?

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Speaker 3: Is he going to progress? Because there's so much.

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Speaker 6: Talent from this kid, like you can see it, but

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he's small, So how would that impact him? And again,

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like I said, would he be capable of being a driver.

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We know how smart he is. We know how good

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he is at getting his shots in or making a

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good pass, or like we saw in the playoffs where

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he would just tip home a one second, he had

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one second to get a stick down and make a

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redirect to get the puck up and over the goaltender.

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So he's a smart kid. But the question was whether

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he was going to be able to adjust to what

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he needed to do. And I always go back to

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when he played that one season in the AHL as

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a nineteen year old during COVID when he wasn't supposed to.

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But of course the OHL season was canceled, so he

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got a chance, the opportunity, and and I would talk

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to Pascal Vincent who at the time was the head

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coach of the manatoa mouse. He said, you could see

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the difference in Perfetti adjusting to the Man's game, right.

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He went from a guy who got points, but they

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were perimeter points to a guy who started to go

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to the middle and started to go to the hard

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areas because he knew what it started to learn what

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it took to play the game at that level. And similarly,

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in the NHL, he's now a guy and if ironic,

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we call him prick Fetti because there was a game

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against Utah where he was like just mucking it up

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with guys and not really his usually his style, but

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and he of course had his first career hat trick

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against the They weren't the mammoth at the time, but

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they're the mammoth now and.

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Speaker 3: It really has changed his season a little bit.

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Speaker 6: And of course Nikolai Eilers has been was out, he

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didn't play the full year.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Perfetti was able.

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Speaker 6: To do it without Elers in the lineup as the

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primary driver on that second line and without Elers, and

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we don't know how.

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Speaker 3: Of course, it's always hard to speculate because.

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Speaker 6: You don't know what the team is going to do

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come training camp and of course come to start of

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the seat. But to me, the biggest advantage for that

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Profetty's going to have is that without Eilers, Proffetty's going

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to get that chance to go up to the top

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power play unit. So that's going to be his big

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Can he get his game? Can he get the points

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up from, like you said, fifty points this year to

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sixty seventy points potentially?

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Speaker 4: Now we're moving on to more of the quick hits.

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Are so many fantasy relevant forwards on this team. Put

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a one versus one here of vlad domestikoff Adam Lowry. Obviously,

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these guys, it's not so much about the scoring for

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both of them, but which do you prefer of the

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two who he think is going to have the better year?

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Speaker 6: As I touched on a little bit, I think the

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problem for Lowry is the hip surgery that he had

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during the offseason or during the summer, i should say.

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And the big question mark for Ladin Domestakov is is

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he going to be the second line center?

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Speaker 3: We don't know.

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Speaker 6: It's a toss up because Lowry, even though he's considered

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the third line center, gets second line center.

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Speaker 3: Minutes. The problem for.

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Speaker 6: Fantasy owners is you don't know if he's going to

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be playing until sometime in November. So I think Domestikov

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is probably your safer bet. But again, Domestakov could end

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up being your fourth line center, and so it's a

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bit of a toss up if they weren't. I would say,

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if the way the things shake out the way I

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anticipate they will, I think Domestakov is going to be

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your fourth line center.

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Speaker 3: I think Lowry will be the.

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Speaker 6: Second two A three a center sort of thing with

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in platoon potentially with Taves and so I think Lowry

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could potentially and but Nomeskov will be on your second

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power play unit.

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Speaker 3: Lowry won't. So I mean it's.

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Speaker 6: A that's a tough one, but I'm gonna go I'm

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gonna give it the edge to the captain because I

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think Domestakov will be in the fourth fourth line spot.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's give you another pick. I'm here Nino,

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Nina Ryder versus Alex. I follow both of them a

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little bit, probably playing a little bit deeper in the lineup.

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But who you like between those two?

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Speaker 3: Again there're Alex.

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Speaker 6: I follow another guy who the organization really seems to

477
00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:02,880
love his game and give him an opportunity when guys

478
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,640
go down, he ends up being He's that kind of ironically,

479
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,759
I'm gonna say Swiss army knife, even though Nino's the

480
00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:12,440
Swiss guy. But the fact is that he goes up

481
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,599
to that first line center or not first line center,

482
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,359
first line wing position. He'll play second line, third line,

483
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,960
fourth line. So Nino's pretty consistent, right you can expect.

484
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,079
I think, what did he have last year, like seventeen

485
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,079
and twenty three or twenty or something like that, but

486
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,680
something I think he had thirty seven points, and so

487
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,599
Iya Fallo I would give tend to give him the

488
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,319
edge because again I think Nino had more points in

489
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,839
him last year. I think there might be more opportunity

490
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,359
for ia Fallo then there might be for Nino.

491
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Speaker 3: But it's a slight edge. It's not a big one

492
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:44,880
between those.

493
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Speaker 4: Two, Okay, and then one more pick them and I'm

494
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,119
gonna Gustav Nyquist due to the team twenty eight points,

495
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,880
seventy nine games, Tanner Pearson with twenty seven and seventy eight,

496
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,839
and why don't we just throw Jonathan Taze in there

497
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,000
because we didn't have him listed here, But you mentioned

498
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,160
before you might want to mention him because that's been

499
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,799
some big news this summer. Which one of those gray

500
00:23:04,839 --> 00:23:06,559
beards do you think is going to come out and

501
00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:07,960
have the best one this year?

502
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 6: I think, if I had to guess, my guess is

503
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,799
going to be I don't want to put too much

504
00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:18,960
pressure on Jonathan Taves because it's a lot. Even though

505
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,640
we've saw with Gabriel Landeskog in Colorado him able to

506
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,640
come back and play the way he did and have

507
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,839
an impact in the playoffs after such a long layoff,

508
00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:31,200
longer of course than Jonathan Taves, different injuries or different situations.

509
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,839
Speaker 3: Of course, to me, Jonathan Taves is such.

510
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,279
Speaker 6: We did the media availability with him, I don't know

511
00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:40,839
a few weeks back, whatever it was. But a guy

512
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,680
like that, a Stanley Cup champion three times, an Olympic champion,

513
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:48,400
a con smythe winner, a guy with his pedigree, does

514
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,160
not come back to be a fourth liner. He doesn't

515
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,079
come back to collect the paycheck. It's a good paycheck,

516
00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:54,920
don't get me wrong. If he plays sixty games, he

517
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,079
makes five million bucks, so it's not a tough day

518
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,440
to be a hockey player for him. But I think

519
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,480
that he is going to be a guy who is

520
00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:06,599
going to, as I said, get leaned on heavily both

521
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:07,200
in the room.

522
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: And that's one of the things I've.

523
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Speaker 6: Talked to players about throughout the summer, and whether it's

524
00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:13,279
like a guy like Dylan Samberg or whether a guy

525
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:16,039
like Gabel Lardi talk about what they can learn from

526
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:17,720
a guy like that. Now you're asking me a specific

527
00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:21,799
question about points and night Quist is an interesting one

528
00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:24,000
because he's had down seasons the last couple of years

529
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,680
as he's an older player, but he may get an

530
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,960
opportunity he could in theory, I see a lot of

531
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,559
people penciling him in as the second line winger on

532
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,319
a line with Taves and Perfetti. So you know, if

533
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,720
I had to guess, I'm gonna go Niquist Pierson, I think,

534
00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:42,480
to me is probably a guy who's gonna end up

535
00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:46,279
being either a fourth line guy or a thirteenth forward,

536
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,920
So I wouldn't put him in that mix. But I'm

537
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,119
gonna say Niquist or Taves simply because both of those

538
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,599
guys would get I think, on the second line. But

539
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,359
I'm gonna go with Niquiest just because I think I

540
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,079
don't know what.

541
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Speaker 3: Taves is going to look like, and it's hard and

542
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,000
I haven't seen him skate.

543
00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 6: Nobody has, so it's hard to really give yet an

544
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:06,079
assessment as to what he's going to be. The only thing,

545
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,400
my only qualifier would be a guy like that with

546
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,000
his history and his pedigree doesn't come back to be

547
00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:12,480
a bench warmer.

548
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,039
Speaker 3: So I suspect he's ready.

549
00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 6: He's gonna be ready to go, and he's gonna he's

550
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,279
gonna give this team something that they don't have.

551
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 5: Indeed, I'm looking forward to watching him. I'm also looking

552
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,680
forward to watching Brad Lambert. I'm curious to hear your

553
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,079
thoughts on that. Before the Jonathan Taves situation, it seemed

554
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,200
like Lambert might have had a more secure spot and

555
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,720
potentially making this team. I'm not sure if that's changed

556
00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:39,559
much now. He certainly has a lot of good physical

557
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:41,920
attributes and has looked pretty decent in the AHL the

558
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,000
last couple of seasons. But I'm wondering what your thoughts.

559
00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:46,119
Do you think we'll see him for a sustained amount

560
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,680
of time with the Jets or is he gonna spend

561
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,880
most of the time again in the AHL.

562
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 3: Victor.

563
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,079
Speaker 6: It's an interesting question because I look at Brad Lambert,

564
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,319
a guy who has so much potential. There's a lot

565
00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:02,480
of really people who were saying, oh, you lost a

566
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:05,480
guy who is fast and could play on the wing.

567
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,799
And even though Lambert prefers to play up the middle

568
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:09,960
as a center. But something that Na Schmidt told me

569
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,920
many years ago, as a left shot defenseman in Washington,

570
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,960
he said he was asked if he could play on

571
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,440
the right side.

572
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 3: He goes, right, well, I'll learn, because it's the NHL.

573
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 6: You want to learn, You want to do what you

574
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,920
need to do to get into the league, the best

575
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,119
league in the world. Brad Lambert of course would adapt

576
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,920
to playing wing if asked to do that at the

577
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,119
NHL level. But he's not Nikolai Eilers, right, He's a

578
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,200
guy's eight years younger than Nikolai Eilers, and it's a

579
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,440
lot to put on his shoulders.

580
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 3: Now.

581
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,559
Speaker 6: He had a down year in the AHL last year,

582
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:36,759
but guess what. The entire Moose team had it down year.

583
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:39,119
They were the I think the thirty first or thirty

584
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,799
second team in terms of goals scoring. So that's not

585
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,160
a Brad Lambert alone thing. The team as a group

586
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,400
did not score a lot of goals I think. I

587
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,480
know we're not talking about the AHL, but a lot

588
00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:52,279
of the Jets prospects will have a much better year,

589
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:55,279
I think because Jets organizationally have done a really good

590
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,960
job to give them some really good veteran players down

591
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,480
there to insulate some of those prospects that are going

592
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,079
to be there. So it's going to be an interesting one.

593
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:06,279
But I don't I think it's going to have to

594
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,720
especially with waivers and that sort of thing.

595
00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: I think Lambert will get.

596
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 6: And again, I hate adding all these qualifiers to my comments,

597
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,599
but I think it's important to note that we don't

598
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,160
know what his training has looked like this summer. I

599
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,279
talked to him at the end of the years. He

600
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,640
had an ankle injury, which it was crazy because he

601
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,880
suffered in the game, came back, tried playing on It

602
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,799
ended up costing him the rest of the AHL season,

603
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:30,519
but he was back. He was training with the Black

604
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:33,599
Aces during the Jets playoff run. And again, if he

605
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:37,319
has a really good summer, the training camp battle could

606
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,440
give him an opportunity. I don't want to say that

607
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,799
it's automatically Gus Nyquist's job on the second line.

608
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: Maybe we see a Brad Lambert. I don't think it.

609
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 6: I still think he's going to need another season of

610
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,000
another year of seasoning. But my guess is that he's

611
00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:54,079
going to be seen similar to the kids Jibakov in

612
00:27:54,079 --> 00:27:56,359
the NHL next year with the Jets as one of

613
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,759
the top recall options.

614
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,559
Speaker 4: Let's smooth to the blue line, and of course that

615
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,640
starts with Josh Morrissey. Another excellent year for the veteran.

616
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,079
He'll be only thirty though for this most of the

617
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,200
upcoming year. That's wild to me. His points were eighth

618
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,440
in the league among defensemen. He's extremely reliable. Only once

619
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,400
in his nine year career did he miss more than

620
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:22,240
four games. His contract came up as an honorable mention

621
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,599
on the Athletics recent list of the best NHL contracts

622
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:29,720
Best from a team perspective. Morrissey, along with Mark Scheifeley,

623
00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:32,680
is also looking at a place on Team Canada's Olympic team.

624
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:35,480
So there's that to contend with potentially over the winter.

625
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,279
What do you see defining Josh Morrissey and what are

626
00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:40,960
you expecting for this upcoming year.

627
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,079
Speaker 3: Isn't it ironic how time changes things?

628
00:28:44,079 --> 00:28:46,759
Speaker 6: Because if it wasn't that long ago that Josh Morrissey's

629
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:49,680
contract was seen as a terrible contract, and oh, you

630
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,519
should leave him, expose him to expansion for Seattle. I

631
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:56,000
don't keep re seats, guys, but I do remember some

632
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:59,319
of those comments from folks, and I remember thinking to myself, Okay,

633
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:01,279
that's an interesting take. I don't think it's one I

634
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:05,000
would necessarily adapt or a spouse, but sure I expect

635
00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:07,480
him to continue. You got to think that he was

636
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:10,960
very disappointed, of course, to get injured the way he'd

637
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,440
to get ill in the hockey in the Four Nations

638
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,279
and miss that final game against the United States, and

639
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,039
obviously when he was injured against Dallas and that cost

640
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:22,839
him the remainder of would.

641
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,839
Speaker 3: Have cost him probably the remainder of the playoffs.

642
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, even if the Jets had

643
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,200
been able to advance against Edmonton without Josh Morrissey, I

644
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,960
don't know that they would have had a chance against

645
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,960
that Edmonton Oilers team. But the fact is that he

646
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:38,599
is another guy who just continues to elevate his game

647
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,400
and he wants to be recognized as a premier player.

648
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:49,160
He gets Norris recognition every year, and similar to Mark Schifley,

649
00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:52,400
here's a guy who got the invite is expected to

650
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,599
be on the roster for Team Canada. But just because

651
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:58,079
you expect it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen.

652
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,200
Of course, you have to have a good year, so

653
00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:02,880
I would expect, And again, I don't know how his

654
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,920
healing process. We haven't heard that from Kevin Shovel day

655
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,920
off yet. I don't know when we'll get an update

656
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,319
in terms of how he's progressed. I'm sure he's fine

657
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:11,519
and ready to go, but again there hasn't been any

658
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:15,079
indication one way or the other. But my suspicion is, again,

659
00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:17,759
you're going to have a guy who's motivated by his

660
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:21,119
success and he continues to elevate his game, and yeah.

661
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: He's getting up there, but he is just such a.

662
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 6: Smart player, and you hear the way that players his

663
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,319
teammates talk about his game, and even guys like Dylan Samdberg,

664
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,519
how they learn from a player like that. To me,

665
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:35,480
here's a guy who's just going to continue to get better,

666
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:38,039
but is motivated both by and again, a lot of

667
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:39,279
these guys aren't motivated by points.

668
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: They should point that out.

669
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 6: I know this is a fantasy hockey show, but I

670
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,720
just think these guys especially, I mean, if you look

671
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,559
at the Jets, you had a pretty big drop off

672
00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:49,920
from Connor and Shifley and then down to sixty two

673
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,119
points with Morrissey. So it isn't that this team, even

674
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,880
though they produced a lot, if you look at him,

675
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,759
what do they do the last two years They've prevented

676
00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:00,799
the goals from coming into the net. So that starts

677
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:04,359
and begins and ends with Josh Morrissey. So I just

678
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,359
think you're going to continue to see him elevate his

679
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,839
game as he continues to get better in this league.

680
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: And Neil Pianc, the other most prominent defenseman probably on

681
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,119
this team, started on fire last year thirteen points in

682
00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:20,799
the first eleven games, and his scoring ended not at

683
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:23,079
that kind of pace by the end of the year,

684
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,680
but still thirty nine points in sixty nine games with

685
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:29,599
triple digit shots, blocks and hits. Like Fallardi, he missed

686
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,440
the stretch of games before the end of the season,

687
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:34,359
but came back for the playoffs. His power play time

688
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,640
is firmly of the second unit variety, although twelve power

689
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,039
play points was very good for under one hundred minutes

690
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:45,079
at man advantage. Feels like roles here are pretty settled

691
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:48,200
and given the presence of Morrissey, unlikely to change a

692
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,920
whole lot. But what do you think of Piank's season

693
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,200
and what kind of role do you expect in the

694
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:53,880
one to come?

695
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 6: Well, As I mentioned earlier, one of the things the

696
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,920
advantages that Jets had the benefit of so many guys

697
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,119
had career years, including Neil Piank, because a lot of

698
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:05,559
the guys were not because necessarily but they were in

699
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,559
contract years, Neilian being one of them. He of course

700
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:11,000
signs a long term deal with the Winnipig Jets, so

701
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:14,759
it'll be it's always interesting to watch what guys do

702
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,799
after their they get their big long term contract and

703
00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:20,680
how did they handle it. Are they able to put

704
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,200
it out of their mind and just play hockey and

705
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:27,920
not try and earn the contract, not try and prove people, oh,

706
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,440
this contract was signed and made makes me look good,

707
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,119
makes team look.

708
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: Good, or vice versa.

709
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 6: So Neil Pianc, though, is a guy who as you said,

710
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:38,920
him and Dylan Samberg, the Hermantown duo, the guys from

711
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,319
the luth Minnesota know they've known each other their families

712
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,960
for forever. I think they formed just a phenomenal duo.

713
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:47,400
I think a lot of that is a lot of

714
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,119
Neil Pionk's success I think comes from the stability of

715
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,759
a Dylan Samberg because he is so good defensively that

716
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,200
it allowed Pianc to play his game. And I don't

717
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,599
anticipate even though again, like I said, he said that deal.

718
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:03,400
I think he's going to continue to do what he does,

719
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,039
which is annoy the other team, show off his offensive flare,

720
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,359
and know that he's got a guy like Dylan Samberg

721
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,039
beside him that's going to always ensure that defensive stability

722
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:15,160
is there for that pairing.

723
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Speaker 5: So you just mentioned how good Dylan Samberg is defensively,

724
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,559
we talk a little bit more about that guy. Since

725
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:23,680
he's so good, he's one of my favorites. He for

726
00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:27,359
the first time had twenty points in a season that

727
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,319
was his career high, primarily played with Pianca. As you mentioned,

728
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:33,759
one of the things that we notice about him Fantasy

729
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:37,119
GMS that is his bash really good, four point five

730
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,440
to three per game, ranking him one hundred and fourteenth.

731
00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:44,000
So that's solid perperal contribution, even if his points don't

732
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:46,880
get too much higher than they were this season. Signed

733
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,440
that three times five point seventy five mil this offseason, Phil,

734
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:53,880
you mentioned the studying defensive presence, but wondering if there's

735
00:33:54,319 --> 00:33:56,720
even more that he can do in terms of his offense,

736
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,880
or many more opportunity he can get. What do you

737
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,440
think the next is going to bring for Samberg?

738
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: A highly motivated one. To be honest with you, Victor,

739
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,640
I think that.

740
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Speaker 6: When we had a media availability with him not that

741
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,400
long ago after he signed that deal and I'd asked him,

742
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,159
I said, listen, you signed a three year deal. Was

743
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,280
there any consideration for a long term deal, because a

744
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,599
lot of folks in these parts were thinking, Jets have

745
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:21,199
to sign this guy as for as long as they

746
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,760
can get him, because he's going to be worth it.

747
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,679
But he they signed the two two sides came to

748
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,119
terms with that three year deal. And for Samberg, if

749
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,119
you listen to what he said, he basically talked about

750
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,199
next year be approved me year, because even though he's

751
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,000
got the two years after that, I think he knows

752
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,519
and I think the team wants.

753
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: To see, Look, you were really good this year. We

754
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,400
want to see another one of those years next year.

755
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 6: And if you do them were prepared to give you

756
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,920
that really long term deal, and now it's not that

757
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,639
long based on the new CBA, but it will be

758
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,440
a more substantial deal, especially because the CBA expands, right,

759
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,199
and you're going to get the cap Expanse right, not

760
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,199
the CBA, the capital expanse more opportunity to have a

761
00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:05,159
bigger contract with Winnipeg when this one expires. And I

762
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:06,760
just think that you're going to just continue to see

763
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,719
him elevate his game.

764
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,199
Speaker 3: I really do.

765
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 6: I think the sky is the limit for him. I

766
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,400
think he is an unknown quantity outside of.

767
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 3: Winnipeg for the most part.

768
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 6: I think, of course, folks in Minnesota know what he

769
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,519
did with the Bulldogs, and he is he is just

770
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:20,400
a really.

771
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 3: Good, solid player.

772
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 6: But if you look at the Jets record with him

773
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,000
in the lineup and with him out of the lineup,

774
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,239
and it's not all Dylan Samberg, but without him in

775
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,679
the lineup, with him in the lineup, they were a

776
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,559
seven hundred team, seven hundred plus team.

777
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: Without him, they were just above five hundred.

778
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 6: So he is a When he went down that Stampcoast

779
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,280
blocking the stamp coat shot in the regular season on

780
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,360
the PK, the season looked very different when he was gone.

781
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,719
So he is a big impact player, and I think

782
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,800
he is a guy who's just scratching the limit of

783
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:52,159
scratching the ceiling story of what his abilities are going

784
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:54,199
to be. I think you're going to see more offense

785
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:57,360
at a Dylan Samberg and the starting next year.

786
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,639
Speaker 5: Awesome. I love to hear it. Let's switch over to

787
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:03,400
the goalies. The Jets were ranked ninth and expected goals

788
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,119
against per sixty, but conceded the first the number one

789
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:08,840
the fewest actual goals per game. I think we all

790
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,840
know why. It was the Vesna winning Connor Hellibuck. What

791
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,000
an awesome season he had, leading the league and wins, shutouts,

792
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:18,719
goal save above expected forty nine point four eight, almost

793
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,960
fifty goals save above expected. It's just bonkers. His delta

794
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,039
Fendwick was one point nine to three. We don't see

795
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:27,159
numbers as highs. This is just incredible stuff. All of

796
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,559
his numbers all around were great. Second year of an

797
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:32,480
eight point five million dollar contract, which I think pretty

798
00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:35,079
clearly shows that he's underpaid based on that number.

799
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,519
Speaker 3: And you look at Eric.

800
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,559
Speaker 5: Comery, who had a pretty solid season saving almost five

801
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,800
goals save above expected. Positive delta Fenwick for a guy

802
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,039
who's really bounced around a lot.

803
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,079
Speaker 7: That was nice to see. This is year two of

804
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:48,639
two at a league minimum. I guess if this is

805
00:36:48,639 --> 00:36:50,440
the status quo, then I think we could be pretty

806
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,000
happy with this. Dave, what do you think we should

807
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:54,440
expect from the Jets' goalies next season?

808
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,559
Speaker 3: My expectation is you're going to see much of the same. Again.

809
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 6: I think the only difference this team might have is

810
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,000
they may go a little bit light.

811
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: They might not play Hella Buck as much.

812
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,519
Speaker 6: That's been the rub here in Winnipeg is whether he's

813
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:11,280
playing too much, and there's been countless conversations that he

814
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,800
and the coaching staff kind of have a sweet spot

815
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,039
in terms of playing him in terms of the number

816
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:21,039
of games. But my guess is that you're gonna maybe

817
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:22,920
see a little bit of a downgrade. I know he

818
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,079
likes to play the way he likes to play, and again,

819
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,840
the one benefit he's going to get from the new

820
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,639
CBA is this idea of having potentially another goalie available

821
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,920
because he doesn't want necessarily practicing, So he might get

822
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,760
a benefit in that regard in later years, but for

823
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,800
next year, I think the Jets, to be honest, you

824
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,920
saw that Eric Comery was competent and capable of more,

825
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,199
and he didn't get a lot of wins during that

826
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,559
He had a bit of a stretch. I think it

827
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:46,840
was seven games where he wasn't getting any wins. The

828
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,480
problem was the team wasn't scoring. So people like Eric Comery.

829
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,360
Eric Comedy is more than capable, but if your team

830
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,920
scoring one or two goals a game, you're not winning

831
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:56,760
very many of those games. And Eric Comery showed that

832
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,480
he was solid when given that opportunity. And I don't

833
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:04,280
anticipate because I've been talking using the word motivated throughout

834
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,599
the course of this conversation guys, and Connor Hallibuck is motivated.

835
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:09,679
And if you don't think, I always laugh at when

836
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:11,360
people say, oh, we don't listen to this, we don't

837
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:11,719
listen to this.

838
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 3: Most of these guys listen. Most of these guys know

839
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:15,679
what's going on. Most of these guys know what's being said.

840
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,480
So my anticipation is that you're gonna see Connor Hallibuck.

841
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:21,039
I'm not saying he's gonna have the numbers.

842
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 6: Victor that you just laid out, because those are pretty

843
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,199
hard to replicate. And I don't think the Jets are

844
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,360
gonna have nearly not it should say nearly, but not

845
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:29,079
as good as season as did last year.

846
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: But my guests would be you're gonna see.

847
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 6: Connor Hallibuck very similarly motivated and wanting to be especially

848
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,360
again another guy who's going to be an Olympic goaltender,

849
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,199
and you're gonna see a guy who's gonna be very motivated.

850
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: All right, this has been a great tour through the

851
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:48,199
President's Trophy defending winners. Dave, why don't you let people

852
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,400
know how they should keep up with your work? Just

853
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,360
a lot of Winnipeg Jets fans do.

854
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:56,039
Speaker 6: All right, Thanks Jesse, appreciate it. Thanks appreciate the conversation.

855
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:57,840
And yeah, we're of course the Legal Curve dot Com,

856
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,920
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857
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:03,639
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858
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859
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,719
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860
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861
00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:12,559
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862
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863
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 4: Out standing. Thanks so much for coming on today.

864
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,119
Speaker 3: Dave, appreciate it.

865
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:28,199
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, all right, all right, will since

866
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:32,719
then that's good fire patsp oh my goodness, ro Longo

867
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,599
with a cat we gram for.

868
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 4: Now it's your weekly goalie talk. But Kat Silverman, Cat's instincts.

869
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 7: Time once again for Cat's instincts with Cass Silver and

870
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,920
have been bull mag we're talking Jets goalies. We're gonna

871
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:54,079
start with Dominic de Vincensus. He is a six two

872
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,920
and eighteen pounds goalie drafted in the seventh round back

873
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,239
in twenty twenty two. He's now twenty one and he

874
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,400
made his professional transition after three years in the OHL

875
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,679
for the North Bay Italian. He spent time between the

876
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:09,480
Manitoba Moose of the OHL and the Norfolk Admirals of

877
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:13,320
the ECCHL. His numbers were not great in the ECCHL,

878
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,440
a little bit better in the AHL. So looking at

879
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,400
the hockey prospecting, it's a low equivalency percent chance of

880
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,199
being a starter. He's covered in that nineteen to twenty

881
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,360
one percent. Not a whole lot of great comps in

882
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,760
that region. But Jimmy Howard is what so that's nice? Yet,

883
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,159
what do your instincts tell us about? Deep in Census,

884
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:32,519
We do.

885
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 8: Love a good Jimmy Howard comparable. That's kind of fun

886
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,639
one there. He's a tough one. The Jets have been

887
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,079
maybe one of the most baffling teams trying to get

888
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:42,960
a gauge on, just because they.

889
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:46,199
Speaker 9: Really ultimately.

890
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 8: Have gone so heavily with their commitment to writing Connor

891
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:56,239
Hallibek for the last what eight or so years here,

892
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,280
so they really haven't even needed to have a true tandem.

893
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 9: They've experimented with it here and there, but they really.

894
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 8: Haven't had the need to cycle like a good true tandem,

895
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:08,719
and so they haven't really given a lot of their

896
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,519
goaltenders a ton of room to shine. And I don't

897
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:19,400
really know where he fits into their organization at the moment,

898
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,039
just because he looks fine, but he doesn't look great,

899
00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:26,840
and I don't know what their plan for him is.

900
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:33,119
He pandles the puck pretty well, he doesn't overly like,

901
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:36,239
he doesn't over commit with his depths, he doesn't have

902
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,960
any issues with tracking his rebounder.

903
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 9: Serviceable.

904
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:43,519
Speaker 8: But there's nothing about him that makes me think that

905
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:45,639
he's a clear and cut.

906
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 9: Ready NHL starter.

907
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 8: Nothing about him really makes me feel like he's a

908
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,239
clear and cut NHL backup yet.

909
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 9: And even if he is getting close.

910
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 8: I don't know if that's what they want for him,

911
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,639
because eventually they're going to need to have another starter,

912
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,360
And I don't know. Most teams have moved towards a tandem,

913
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,719
and he doesn't look like he is anything but that

914
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,599
they haven't seemed super interested in doing a true tandem.

915
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:15,159
They've really ridden with that clear cut starter. And that's

916
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,000
not what he looks like to me, all.

917
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 7: Right, that sounds a little bit underwhelming. We might continue

918
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,280
down that train here with the next guy. That's Thomas Millick.

919
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,679
He's six foot zero, maybe one hundred and seventy nine pounds.

920
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,920
Drafted in the fifth round back in twenty twenty three.

921
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,079
The past season was his second professional season. It was

922
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:33,960
a bit rough, although he had the opposite of evensensus

923
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,920
because his ECCHL numbers more fantastic, but his AHL numbers

924
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,760
were pretty bad. Looking at his Hockey prospecting equivalency, it's

925
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,400
pretty low. It started off at zero for lack of

926
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,000
equivalency in that league, and then went up into the

927
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:50,159
high teens and then has covered in the low twenties.

928
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:52,760
So not a lot of great comps in that neighborhood.

929
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,639
But Tom v Tech Bancheck is one.

930
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:58,199
Speaker 4: So there's that, Kat. What do your interestingcts to tell

931
00:42:58,199 --> 00:42:58,840
you about Milich?

932
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 8: I really liked his game when he was first draft eligible.

933
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 9: He is really small.

934
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 8: He is listed at six to zho one hundred and

935
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,800
seventy nine pounds. I have had a few scouts in

936
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,119
the past tell me that's maybe being a little optimistic.

937
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:20,639
He's probably closer to five ten, five eleven, kind of

938
00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:23,920
the Auntie Ronto side of six tozho instead of someone

939
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,119
who's closer to six to one. He has looked pretty

940
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:30,480
good in the past, but once again, I'm not really

941
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,800
sure what the Jets want from him. They haven't given

942
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,519
him a ton of indication that he is a promising

943
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:41,559
prospect for them, and he did struggle a little bit

944
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:42,360
when it came to.

945
00:43:44,039 --> 00:43:47,119
Speaker 9: Moving the to the pro circuit for them.

946
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 8: When when he really essentially started playing more regularly at

947
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,800
the HL level, and I don't know. I liked his depth,

948
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,360
I liked his decision making, and then that changed for

949
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,400
me and he's been working his way back, But I

950
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,440
don't know if that's necessarily something that they're going to

951
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,880
give him a ton of chances to prove that he

952
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,559
is still the player that he was when they drafted

953
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:09,599
him in twenty twenty three.

954
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 9: He had looked the really promising.

955
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 8: For a team Canada, and then he I don't know,

956
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:17,400
he didn't translate it super well into his actual day

957
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,960
to day career, so I don't know.

958
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,599
Speaker 9: I'd guess he's probably going to be I don't know.

959
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 8: I would assume this is his year to prove that

960
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,519
he can be their de facto number one at the

961
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:31,679
AHL level, because really he's been splitting fifty to fifty

962
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,480
for the last two years. But I don't know if

963
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:36,440
that's what the Jets want from him, and I don't

964
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,199
know if they have that much faith in him, So

965
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:40,800
I would say he's kind of wait and see for me.

966
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,039
Speaker 9: At this point, I had been really high on him,

967
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,000
and then he didn't.

968
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,519
Speaker 8: Excuse me, he didn't really translate it super well in

969
00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:50,599
his first couple of years, at least at the AHL level.

970
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,159
He just looked like he was having a little bit

971
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:56,920
of trouble with footwork speed, which is surprising for me

972
00:44:57,039 --> 00:44:59,039
because that had never been an issue for him in

973
00:44:59,079 --> 00:44:59,480
the past.

974
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 7: All right, thanksgiving us your instincts on the Winnipeg Jets.

975
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,280
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Speaker 4: We'll be back right after this.

991
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 6: Dig the.

992
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,119
Speaker 4: Dynasty Dig Winnipeg Jets edition, Victor. The Jets won the

993
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:14,679
President's Trophy, but if there was an equivalent of the

994
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:17,719
President's Trophy for prospect system ranks, they would not have

995
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,719
won that. In fact, only if there was an award

996
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,880
for the number twenty four prospect system would they have won. Nonetheless,

997
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,559
they've got good prospects. Starts with a no brainer. Who

998
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:27,800
is it?

999
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,639
Speaker 5: That would be Kevin He That's right, he is him.

1000
00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:34,159
He is a six foot er, one hundred and eighty

1001
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:36,719
one pound left wing twenty twenty four to fourth round pick.

1002
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,239
He was definitely one of the biggest risers last year.

1003
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,920
After fifty three points in sixty four games in his

1004
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:44,920
draft season for Niagara, he was named captain and popped

1005
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,199
off for seventy five points in sixty two games. In fact,

1006
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:48,840
there was a time in the fall where he was

1007
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:51,719
approaching two points per game and we were getting really excited.

1008
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:55,639
But still fantastic season for him. You love to see it.

1009
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:59,199
You look at his FHL player card and all of

1010
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,320
most of it's green up and down. He has some

1011
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,800
pretty great transition numbers. Most of his play driving is

1012
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,039
pretty good. Some of his net expected goals, of course,

1013
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:12,039
he was a little bit lower. His blocks are just

1014
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,000
around average, and so add that to his high hits

1015
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,159
and shots and he looks like a bash gem ninety

1016
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:21,920
seven percentile for bash. His scoring mostly his shooting, but

1017
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,840
also his playmaking is pretty good. So he's looking like

1018
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,800
he could be a steal in that fourth round. Six

1019
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,320
point four to five is what I have him at

1020
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,119
forty five percent chance of being a six. Let's hear

1021
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:33,039
a little bit more about what makes Kevin He's special.

1022
00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:34,599
For MYRIFHL scout Jesse.

1023
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:42,039
Speaker 4: Kevin he is the topic on the table today. Austin Kelly,

1024
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:45,039
our FHL scout is on the case, says that Kevin

1025
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:47,159
is one of the best skaters in the OHL, perhaps

1026
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,760
even the CHL. A mobile forward who has a strong

1027
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,320
person skating stride that makes him a menace with the puck.

1028
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,559
Also shown much more elusiveness to his game and using

1029
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,679
footwork to do fine playmaker, but the passing game seems

1030
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,320
a bit basic, shorts, simple passes without a lot of

1031
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,039
higher end creation plays. It works, but he can play

1032
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:07,000
a bit too simplistic at times and prefers to play

1033
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000
a little too safe with the puck. Can move the

1034
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,840
puck well enough, but needs to get better at scanning

1035
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,559
the ice and finding the right play rather than the easiest.

1036
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:18,519
For shooting, he is a very strong shooter who's shown

1037
00:48:18,639 --> 00:48:21,440
a versatile bag of scoring tricks, whether it be from

1038
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,719
the point or from distance. Capable of finding the net

1039
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,599
from a slap shot or jamming the pucking close has

1040
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:29,079
found success in the multiple facets of the game, getting

1041
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:31,679
the puck to the net and can get goals no

1042
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,639
matter where he needs to be. Austin says of the

1043
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:37,320
Hockey IQ plays with a lot of composure and awareness

1044
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,320
on the ice, never overtly flashy, but he makes the

1045
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,000
smart plays and doesn't make many mistakes with the puck.

1046
00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:47,960
On defense, there's defensive calmness in his game. He is

1047
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:50,519
more of a hard worker than he is a powerhouse

1048
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:55,000
and willing to play an intense, scrappy game even if

1049
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:59,079
he's not the most physical. All he does well defending

1050
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:02,199
the net and keep composed in one on one. All

1051
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,400
that's missing is the strength. The ability to score from

1052
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,480
anywhere and the intensity to compete are the two things then,

1053
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:12,320
that could make Kevin he a specialty player in the NHL.

1054
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:14,679
A guy who plays hard and fights to get goals

1055
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,000
is something that could make him a valuable asset if

1056
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,280
he's just a bottom six player with any team really

1057
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,679
needing that sort of energy player who can provide offense.

1058
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,599
The biggest concern he can play it a little too

1059
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:26,840
safe at times. Needs to open himself up more to

1060
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,360
have a higher projection. A lot of his game has

1061
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,360
the habit of being a bit basic, and he risks

1062
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,360
not being able to flash higher end skills at a

1063
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,400
higher level because it works well now against the Ohl competition,

1064
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:39,480
he's going to need a flasheer of toolkit at the

1065
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:43,199
pro ranks. The top tier outcome then, per Proston, he's

1066
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,559
a peak at peak, a middle six winger with second

1067
00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:49,880
line potential, possible twenty to twenty five goal fifty to

1068
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,800
fifty five point producer who can play on the power

1069
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,440
play too. The justification, he's a mobile goal scoring winger

1070
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,519
with good intensity. He's able to continue getting heiser and

1071
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:03,800
more dynamic. He could very well rise as a player.

1072
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,239
He has a bit of a simple player, but there's

1073
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,239
that added layer of craftiness and if it gets unlocked,

1074
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,960
it'll be a big boost the fiftieth percentile outcome. Third

1075
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:18,039
line goal scoring winger who can provide energy ten to

1076
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:21,280
fifteen goals, twenty five to thirty five points. As mentioned before, Kevin,

1077
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,599
he is not the most advanced player at times, and

1078
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:26,960
it could limit him to a bottom six role. Now

1079
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,519
that's a role where he should be fine appearing, but

1080
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,000
depends on how much more creative of a player he

1081
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:34,360
can be and if he can move the puck more

1082
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,079
often stylistic comparable, could he be a Josh Norris type

1083
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:40,840
player who gets goals and plays with energy and good skating.

1084
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,920
Might not reach Norris's peak, but Kevin he could become

1085
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,039
a good value version of what Norris does. And the

1086
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:51,920
NHL rank King Mason Black says Kevin he should go

1087
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,960
up against match Chew catafour of the Vegas goal of

1088
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,079
the Knights draft system, and Catiford is the victor in

1089
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:02,760
a narrow margin fifty point eight to forty nine point two.

1090
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:07,199
Speaker 5: Victor, oh Man, this is a hard one. I really

1091
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:10,239
I want to pick he. I think that he's such

1092
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,079
a great riser and all that, and I think that

1093
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:16,599
I probably will go with him, even though I like Catiford.

1094
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,599
Vegas Golden Knights prospect third round pick back in twenty

1095
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:23,360
twenty three. He's looked pretty good. He was with Ramuski

1096
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,960
and the Q this past season, with Halifax previously, and

1097
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:30,440
his scoring has been pretty good, although it didn't rise

1098
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,400
as much this year as it has in the past,

1099
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:34,360
so there was a little bit of a dip, whereas

1100
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,840
he has more of an upward trajectory and finished with

1101
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,239
a little bit higher PNHLLY, so I like to see that.

1102
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: You look at the Hockey.

1103
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,599
Speaker 5: Prospect in between the two and he went from nine

1104
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:47,320
to twenty one percent chance of being a star, and

1105
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,480
then Catiford nine to seven to nine to three percent

1106
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:54,760
chance of being a star. You look at the FHL

1107
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,320
player fart card for Catiford and it looks pretty great.

1108
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,039
Speaker 3: There's a lot of.

1109
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 5: Green, there's a lot of lighter green and mostly positive

1110
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,199
numbers up and down the card. With transition perferle passing

1111
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,760
all that, his bast figures to be eighty two percent,

1112
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,480
so also pretty good. Looking at some other more reasonable

1113
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:15,159
comps for Kevin, he I think that Lowston Kraus is

1114
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:17,639
a good one. He might not hit quite as much,

1115
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:20,800
but he tends to do that a fair amount, and

1116
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,199
maybe he'll have similar scoring to Kraus, maybe a little

1117
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,440
bit more, that's the hope. But looking at the jfresh card,

1118
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,719
three percent chance of being a star, twenty percent chance

1119
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,559
of being an NHLR, so as usual, a little bit

1120
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:36,239
more pessimistic.

1121
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,599
Speaker 4: And victor the need to know prospect.

1122
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:42,519
Speaker 5: The need to know is Kiernan Walton twenty twenty four

1123
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:45,159
hundred and eighty seventh overall pick. We're talking some of

1124
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,760
the late picks here for Winnipeg, which, hey, when you're

1125
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,320
a good team, you got to do that to stay relevant.

1126
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,760
So you like to see that there's some some guys

1127
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,639
of interest there. Six foot six, two hundred and twelve pounds,

1128
00:52:57,159 --> 00:53:01,199
big dude, and he had a pretty season for Sudbury.

1129
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,800
After being under point per game in his draft season,

1130
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,280
he went to ninety two points sixty six games for

1131
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,800
Sudbury this past season. At the end of the season,

1132
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,119
he did join Manitoba for a few HL games one

1133
00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:17,320
point in four games, but it's good to get that experience.

1134
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,000
He should be back in the AHL this season. Fortunately

1135
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:23,800
he's in April twenty second birthday, so he it's either

1136
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,679
NHL or OHL for him right now, and he could

1137
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,159
probably use a little bit more more help.

1138
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,079
Speaker 9: So.

1139
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 5: Looking at some other tracking data for Kieranan Walton, his

1140
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:40,400
FHL player card looks like his transition is excellent eighty

1141
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,320
nine percent across the board, the play driving only at

1142
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,679
forty percent, including pretty low coursey and net expected goals,

1143
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:49,800
but all of those are pretty low for him. The

1144
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,920
Priss look pretty good mostly his shots, though his hit

1145
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,360
some blocks are only in the thirtieth percent. Tile passing

1146
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,639
and shooting all looks pretty good, and he does pim

1147
00:53:59,679 --> 00:54:01,920
a lot. So if you like penalty minutes, then while

1148
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,400
think can help you with that. I've met a six

1149
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,320
point four or five, so forty five percent chance of

1150
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,519
being a six. Let's hear a little bit more about

1151
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:09,719
what makes him interesting though, from MYFHL scout Jesse.

1152
00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:16,199
Speaker 4: What does FHL scout have to Austin have to say

1153
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,639
about Kieran Walton's a fine skater for his size. He

1154
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,920
moves well, isn't too lanky overall, a slower skater who

1155
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:26,039
lacks strong acceleration and footwork, but capable enough to make

1156
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:29,880
the lack of foot speed work with good intensity. A

1157
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:33,599
strong puck handler, He's highly mobile, does well setting up

1158
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:36,119
plays with a puck. There's some good deceptiveness in his

1159
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:39,440
game that he's grown more this season as his game matures.

1160
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,320
For shooting, Kiaren isn't a gifted shooter and doesn't have

1161
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,760
the most dominant shot, but has taken up the load

1162
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,800
of scoring chances for a Sudbury team that lacks goals

1163
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,079
from their top six, except of course, from Quentin Musty.

1164
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,760
With Musty in the AHL next season, Walton will have

1165
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,960
to step up again and will lead the goal scoring

1166
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,679
department again, which he's managed to do in terms of IQB.

1167
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,559
Walton's a smart player when he's trying out, but there

1168
00:55:03,559 --> 00:55:05,079
are a few cases when he's a bit of a

1169
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:07,719
floater who can be a step behind if he's caught

1170
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,000
watching the puck. Anyway away from the puck, Walton is

1171
00:55:11,039 --> 00:55:13,719
a bit inconsistent and doesn't have the best effort level

1172
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,039
without the puck on his stick. On defense, Austin uses

1173
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:20,320
his or Walton uses his six to sixth frame to

1174
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,840
deliver his play and play a physically imposing game. Doesn't

1175
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,760
play as much of a power forward as he could,

1176
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,199
but there are a lot of good moments of Walton

1177
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,360
using his reach to shut down plays and use his body.

1178
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,159
Best asset, then, is that mix of size and puck

1179
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:38,679
moving ability. Walton's reach allows him to move the puck

1180
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,840
upward with ease and create plays. The biggest concern Walton

1181
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,960
can be a bit inconsistent and caught watching, and when

1182
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,760
he has the puck he's engaged, but when he doesn't

1183
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,840
have it sometimes he'll take a step back and not

1184
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,880
be as active. The top tier outcome potential thirty thirty five,

1185
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,440
sixty five top point producer and a peak of seventy

1186
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,199
points at his best with powerplay one penalty killed two opportunities.

1187
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,880
It's hard to see him peaking as high as Tah

1188
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,079
Thompson among tall guys, but it's possible depending on how

1189
00:56:08,159 --> 00:56:10,199
much freedom he's given and the line mates around him.

1190
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,199
Upside is based on Walton's growth this season and if

1191
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,559
it's something that continues to show progression on the coming seasons.

1192
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:21,760
The media outcome twenty thirty fifty a middle six energy

1193
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,559
winger with a chance to be powerplay two, Walton could

1194
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:26,599
be a bit inconsistent. If that carries over to the

1195
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:29,519
NHL and he becomes a liability in the league, it

1196
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:31,760
could restrict him from being able to reach a top

1197
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,440
six role at least regularly. And the stylistic comparable Walt

1198
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,199
has been compared by some to Tage Thompson. There's elements

1199
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,400
in the twos game, but Walton's hitting that level doesn't

1200
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,519
appear all that certain. Thank you Austin for that scouting

1201
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:51,679
report and the NHL ranking. Mason Black has this to say,

1202
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:57,679
Karen Walton versus Idar Suniev and Suniev comes out ahead

1203
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,039
fifty four point six to forty five point four victor.

1204
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm definitely taking Sonyev here. He has been really awesome,

1205
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,480
going from the BCCHL to UMass and putting up twenty

1206
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,480
five points in thirty six games in his first season

1207
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,400
and then going over point per game this past season.

1208
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,000
He even got a game with the Flames. Most likely

1209
00:57:18,039 --> 00:57:20,280
he'll be in the HL next season, so he's also

1210
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,480
getting really close to being ready for the NHL. And

1211
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:26,079
the fact that he had some pretty great scoring in

1212
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:29,920
the NCUBA, I'm taking Sonyev. The PNHL looks similar, but

1213
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,159
I have more confidence in Sonyev doing it at the

1214
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,599
NCUBLA level. Both of these guys have pretty low hockey

1215
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:38,760
prospecting their equivalency because it was really low in their

1216
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,199
draft season. It just hasn't really recovered or taken off,

1217
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:45,320
so both of them are really low. Looking at Sonyev's

1218
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:49,639
FHL player card, it looks pretty awesome. His play, driving, transition, passing,

1219
00:57:49,679 --> 00:57:52,920
shooting all really high in the eighties or nineties percentile.

1220
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,800
Even his bash looks pretty good. His hits are pretty high,

1221
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,239
his shots are really high, and his blocks are close

1222
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,159
to average. So got a nice floor there his pims

1223
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:03,119
are high, so yeah, I have him met at six

1224
00:58:03,159 --> 00:58:05,760
point four to four, but I would definitely take him

1225
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,000
due to his proximity to the NHL and doing it

1226
00:58:08,039 --> 00:58:11,039
at a more difficult level. Looking at some other comps

1227
00:58:11,079 --> 00:58:14,679
for Kernon Walton, I mean, I guess if you're aiming high,

1228
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,320
then Carteriver Haagy is certainly one Verhagey always had pretty

1229
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,719
low equivalencies, and obviously he's turned out to be a star.

1230
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,280
But most of the guys who look like Kierenon Walton

1231
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,400
in this model are replacement level or bus so that's

1232
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:31,159
what we're hoping he'll avoid. Looking at the jfreshcard four

1233
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:33,599
percent chance of being a star, sixty one percent chance

1234
00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:35,400
of being an NHL or as usually a little bit

1235
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,760
more pessimistic.

1236
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 4: And victory to keep your eye on prospect.

1237
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,519
Speaker 5: Brandon Yeager is the keep your eye on. I think

1238
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:46,679
some people might have expected him to be higher, but yeah,

1239
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,280
he's fallen down quite a bit. Twenty twenty three, fourteenth

1240
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,159
overall pick by the Pittsburgh Penguins, and they swapped him

1241
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:55,840
for Rerecor mcgrorty in that trade. Six foot, zero hundred

1242
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:03,360
and seventy pounds, he obviously was with the Moushow Warriors previously,

1243
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,960
and then he was traded to Lethbridge and had a

1244
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,920
pretty good season there, forty two points in thirty three

1245
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,119
games and a pretty strong playoff run. He was on

1246
00:59:10,159 --> 00:59:14,559
that U twenty Canada team and overall pretty solid season.

1247
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:17,559
He should be getting some HL time as early as

1248
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:19,599
next season. He's now twenty, so that'll be a really

1249
00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:23,280
important transition for Branden Jeger. Looking at his FHL player

1250
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,320
card from his WHL time, the play driving didn't really

1251
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,679
look as good as you would have hoped. That was disappointing.

1252
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:32,800
His transition game was pretty good, but the priffs really low.

1253
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,000
His hit some blocks are extremely low, so he's definitely

1254
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:36,679
more of a points only a guy, and he doesn't

1255
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:39,239
really pi him either, So mostly you're hoping that the

1256
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,360
playmaking translates. That's probably his best skill, but overall I'm

1257
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,679
not super confident that the scoring is going to translate

1258
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:48,000
a lot. Let's hear a little bit more about what

1259
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:50,039
might translate from my FHL scout Jesse.

1260
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,079
Speaker 4: One more from FHL scout Austin Kelly on Branden Yegger's

1261
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:59,320
a solid skater with good edgework and mobility. Not the fastest,

1262
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,119
but as strong first and acceleration and with a touch,

1263
01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:05,559
does well at being elusive while uses edges well. With

1264
01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:07,800
a good skating coach in the pros, he should be

1265
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,079
able to become a very strong skater. Passing and handling

1266
01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:14,679
sixth among WHL players in the past two seasons and assists,

1267
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,719
and yet it seems like the playmaking element of his

1268
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,039
game has always been secondary to his scoring touch. Jeger

1269
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:22,000
has shown more of an ability to create plays and

1270
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:24,679
is getting better at exploiting open space to set up

1271
01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:27,559
scoring chances for his teammates, although in the pro level

1272
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:30,719
it's likely his goal to assist ratio will be more

1273
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,320
balanced shooting. Despite not appearing as a shooter on the

1274
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,320
score sheet, Jeger has been one of the more skilled

1275
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,280
shooters in the WHL since his last Since his draft year,

1276
01:00:41,559 --> 01:00:43,880
Yeager has shown the ability to score from just about

1277
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,360
anywhere and does well taking possession of the puck and

1278
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,280
creating his own shot, something that should translate to the

1279
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,920
pro level better than it does now. Jeger is a

1280
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,280
very smart player who's quite methodical. In his earlier years,

1281
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,360
Jeger had relied a bit more on his skill and

1282
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:02,400
has done better now at planning out routes and not

1283
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,480
getting himself into trouble. Can struggle at times on defense

1284
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:09,480
despite not being active defense in not being active enough

1285
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:12,000
and has caused a few poor goals, but shows that

1286
01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:14,519
his vision and hockey senses there, just needs to use

1287
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:18,000
it better in physical play on defense. Up until last season,

1288
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,719
Yeager wasn't a player who from a personal standpoint, stood

1289
01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:24,920
out as defensively dominant, always a bit too small to

1290
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,039
be overtly physical, never seemed like a shutdown player, although

1291
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:32,639
he was capable enough. Austin says, Jeger has improved immensely

1292
01:01:32,679 --> 01:01:35,199
as a defensive forward. Perhaps it's his age helping him,

1293
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,599
but Yeger has become a lot better at breaking up

1294
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:39,880
plays battling for the puck. He looks a lot more

1295
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,159
engaged as well in physical moments and is applying more

1296
01:01:43,199 --> 01:01:46,840
pressure defense. He'll never compete for a Selkie or be

1297
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,000
a top defender, but there's a lot of positive growth

1298
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,280
in Yegger's defensive game, and he's been willing to step

1299
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,480
up on his own end, so the best asset. Jigger's

1300
01:01:56,519 --> 01:01:59,480
one of the most skilled prospects right now, a natural

1301
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,159
offensive creator who has a strong upside as a forward.

1302
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:05,639
Based on the skilly possesses with the puck, Jeger has

1303
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:08,079
real potential as a top line forward in the future

1304
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:12,480
if everything goes right. The biggest concern Yegger's not big

1305
01:02:12,639 --> 01:02:14,360
by any means, and he'll have to prove he can

1306
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:19,159
match up physically against bigger, stronger teammates. Despite an improved defense,

1307
01:02:19,199 --> 01:02:22,280
He'll have to prove he can play physical hockey in

1308
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,760
the pros and not rely on his natural skills to

1309
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,519
guide him. Top tier outcome potential of fifty five to

1310
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:31,639
sixty five point producer, with possible peaks up to seventy

1311
01:02:31,719 --> 01:02:34,519
depending on how many assists he can muster. Chance he's

1312
01:02:34,519 --> 01:02:37,559
a first line center, although as previously mentioned, first line

1313
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:41,079
may move him to the wing, and that's because Brad

1314
01:02:41,199 --> 01:02:44,079
Yeager has always been a very natural offensive talent, dating

1315
01:02:44,119 --> 01:02:46,960
back to prior to the WHL, where he seemed like

1316
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,639
one of the most surefire prospects out West in years,

1317
01:02:49,679 --> 01:02:52,320
although he had to compete with connor Bidart for the

1318
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,599
hype at that time. Jegger's worked on improving the weaker

1319
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:58,280
elements in his game and if his development hits, he

1320
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,079
could manage a top line role with his advanced offensive

1321
01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:03,960
skill while having grown on defense, could also play in

1322
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,199
both the power play and penalty kill. The media outcome

1323
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,280
forty five to fifty point to see with a chance

1324
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,559
to play power play too, that would be the occasion

1325
01:03:14,639 --> 01:03:19,440
if Yeager hasn't yet proved he's physical and offensively skilled

1326
01:03:19,519 --> 01:03:21,679
enough to match up against the league's best. He's good,

1327
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,519
but its weakest. He doesn't look like a top six forward,

1328
01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:27,920
and he can make a few mistakes. And the stylistic

1329
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,880
comparable Jigger's got a game similar to Seth Jarvis's. Yeager

1330
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,199
is similar, but they're both smaller forwards with dynamic two

1331
01:03:35,199 --> 01:03:37,480
way offensive games who can both score goals and have

1332
01:03:37,559 --> 01:03:40,480
a strong puck moving. Since both play a mature game,

1333
01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:45,519
despite lack of physicality, have been competitive impact forwards. In

1334
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:47,920
the final thought, Jeger is a player where you can

1335
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,639
see how he'd succeed and become a Seth Jarvis level player,

1336
01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:52,280
but you can also see a world where he's just

1337
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,320
another guy in the mix. He's not perfect. At times

1338
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,559
you do want more from him, but at his best

1339
01:03:57,559 --> 01:04:00,199
there's a player you can see Yeger very well. We'll

1340
01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:04,239
outplay the expectations of him and pretty quickly into his

1341
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:09,920
career and Mason Black puts Braden Yeger up against Liam

1342
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:14,880
Ogrin of the Minnesota Wild, another very prominent prospect, and

1343
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,320
somewhat to my surprise, Jeger comes out big, fifty nine

1344
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,880
to forty one percent over Liam Ogrin. Now, Ogrin was

1345
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,599
down a little bit this year, big for but I

1346
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:26,599
believe he's a favorite of yours. Who what do you

1347
01:04:26,639 --> 01:04:27,800
think of this matchup?

1348
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right about that, Jesse. I was surprised at

1349
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,159
this too. I think it's when you look at the

1350
01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:35,840
pn H League between the two, Jaeger's is still a

1351
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,679
little bit higher, even though it's trended down, and Ogrin's

1352
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,679
equivalency did take a hit because he was in the AHL,

1353
01:04:41,719 --> 01:04:44,639
which I'm assuming is what's going to happen for Jeger

1354
01:04:44,679 --> 01:04:46,320
next year when he's in the AHL. I think his

1355
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:50,360
equivalence he's going to plummet. And overall, I like Ogrin better.

1356
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:51,880
He's more of a play driver, he's more of a

1357
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,039
complete player. I really like him. I think he's he's

1358
01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:57,400
breaking into the NHL right now. He already played twenty

1359
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,679
four games this season. He should be a staple in

1360
01:04:59,719 --> 01:05:02,119
that this season. I think he can work his way

1361
01:05:02,199 --> 01:05:06,079
up the lineup two, So I like Ogeran a lot more.

1362
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:08,239
In fact, I think this should be not only flipped,

1363
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,719
but I would smash except on Liam Ogrin if I

1364
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,760
got this trade if I had Yaeger. So I think

1365
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,280
that one's actually pretty easy for me. Looking at the

1366
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,760
hockey prospect between the two, they're pretty similar. Jaeger's at

1367
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,199
thirteen percent chance of being a star. Ogren has been

1368
01:05:21,239 --> 01:05:24,320
in the low teens his whole time and finished at

1369
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,519
ten percent. If you look at his FHL player card

1370
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,119
based on his HL time, there's a lot of red here.

1371
01:05:30,239 --> 01:05:32,199
I think it shows that there was some hit and

1372
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:36,360
miss times in his transition. He was struggling to drive

1373
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,480
play and to get the transition going. But overall, I

1374
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,119
think that he's going to get there, and I think

1375
01:05:41,159 --> 01:05:45,519
that he has some strong metrics that aren't always quantified

1376
01:05:46,519 --> 01:05:48,719
in these numbers. And I haven't met a six point

1377
01:05:48,719 --> 01:05:52,559
sixty seven, so quite a bit higher than Jaeger. If

1378
01:05:52,559 --> 01:05:54,920
you look at the hockey prospecting for some other comps

1379
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,159
for Yeager, Dylan Holloway is probably a reasonable one. He

1380
01:05:58,199 --> 01:06:00,719
actually looks pretty similar in this model, and of course

1381
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,000
he popped off a little bit later after making the NHL.

1382
01:06:04,119 --> 01:06:06,400
So maybe Yago can do that. I think that's probably

1383
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,840
about the best we can hope for looking at the

1384
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,519
j fresh card for him, just five percent chance of

1385
01:06:11,559 --> 01:06:13,440
being a star, thirty five percent chance of being an

1386
01:06:13,639 --> 01:06:16,079
NHL or so as usually a little bit more pessimistic.

1387
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,599
That's all for our Winnipeg Jets dig. If you're a patron,

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come to pass. Mike, Steven and Matt help with the

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show prep and all the work that goes into getting

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ready for these interviews. Brandon helps with the website, prospect

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ranks and visualizations the things you find on the Fantasy

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Hockey light player cards. For example, if you have skills

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you'd like to lend the show, Victor would love to

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hear from you, hit him up in the discord, email

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or social media. We're also brought to you by Daubra

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Hockey and Dauber Prospects. Victors and editor at Daber Prospects

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and you can follow his work there. I do a

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solo show called Dynasty Sports Life. I talk about four

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different Dynasty sports and you can find that anywhere Pods

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are sold. Dynasty Sports Life. Follow us on social media

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at Blue Sky Jesse Severe or the one Victor at

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X you can find us Victor Nuno twelve, Fan Hockey Life,

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Rate Review, Apple Pods, Spotify, wherever else you found this.

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Today is a great place to put five stars on it,

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because as we move through the thirty two NHL team previews,

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we're here to help you live your best fantasy hockey life.

