WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:04.639 We are being hypnotized people like this. 2 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:10.839 US readers, politicians, teachers, lecturists. 3 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:13.960 We are in a country and in a world that 4 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:20.519 is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between 5 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:22.679 what we're told is going on on what he's really 6 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:27.719 going on is absolutely oh yeah, dude, based and nephlom shit. 7 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:30.559 It's like we all know what's going down, but no 8 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:32.960 one's saying what happens to the home of the brief 9 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:36.359 If you told on this now and no one's talking 10 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:40.679 about it aside, be please, and everybody's just walking around 11 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:42.679 in the problem. Want to wake up to it down 12 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:45.880 in the great but may we need to be ready 13 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:51.920 to raise up. Welcome to the edge of day, everybody. 14 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.759 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephelum 15 00:00:57.960 --> 00:00:58.640 Death Squad. 16 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:00.880 I am David Lee about a k a. 17 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:04.879 The raven that is top Lobsters, the father of disinformation 18 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:09.439 and against his better judgment, we are honored to welcome 19 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:12.760 back j Dyer. Jay for the audience who might not 20 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.480 be familiar with you, let him know where they can 21 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:17.280 find your work and what it is you focus on. 22 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:20.840 I thought this was x G podcast, so I'm gonna 23 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:23.280 have to leave. I thought, this guy right here is XG. 24 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:27.280 So that's not x guys, I'm out of here. 25 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:28.480 She's like I thought XG. 26 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:28.719 This. 27 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:31.840 I thought Bohemian Grove was x G show. I'm gonna leave. 28 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:34.599 Oh my god, incredible. 29 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:37.799 What Sam was x G? So I'm confused now Who's who? 30 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:39.840 I knew we were screwed as soon as we had. 31 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:41.640 I looked at Jay screen and I said, is that 32 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:43.920 a tufted armchair you're set upon, sir? 33 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:44.599 And it is. 34 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:48.000 It's a beautiful tofted It is a power move. Look 35 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:49.200 at him lounging, dude. 36 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:53.400 It's like this is what you drank purple scissor up then. 37 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:56.239 Yes, yes, and I imagine you've had quite a few 38 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:59.280 purple scissors on that one as a beautiful sofacer. 39 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:01.879 I'm glad to be back with you, guys. I'm sorry 40 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:04.840 I couldn't perform cringe cores at your live event, but 41 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:08.639 I did have actually the worst two weeks of diarrhea ever, 42 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:11.000 so glad to be cut and healthy. 43 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:14.240 I felt terrible that you showed up. I gave you 44 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:14.560 a hug. 45 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:16.360 I looked at you and I said, oh no, because 46 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:18.400 it was just so you could tell the facial expression 47 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:19.800 on you was you were. 48 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:20.759 You were holding it together. 49 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.759 I was hopefully I didn't pass my aids onto both 50 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:25.599 the all since somebody. 51 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:27.360 Got aids for sure, you can't get aids twice. 52 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.960 So we're all said, we're all good, all right. 53 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:33.520 We're all good. Baby. I'm really excited to have you back. 54 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:33.719 Jay. 55 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:36.199 Yeah, let's toss up his links there of course, go 56 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:37.560 and follow jade. 57 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:41.639 I or Twitter, Rock Finn Big one Instagram. It's weird 58 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:43.719 like you guys, like so many followers like why you 59 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:44.960 why are you hanging out with us? 60 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:47.879 But hey, you're here against his better judgment. 61 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:50.599 Yeah, Jay, you sent out a tweet and most of 62 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.280 your tweets are very interesting, but this one I thought 63 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:57.039 was timely. And you were talking about the the Brookings 64 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.319 Institute in the nineteen sixties. So I kind of just 65 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:02.919 let's just hop right into this because it's this is like, 66 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:05.039 what's going on? I think it has something to do 67 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:06.879 with everything. Man, it's all connected. I got to put 68 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:08.000 the red wires behind. 69 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:12.400 Me, but please Yeah. So this suite was from a 70 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:14.800 book that was written by an academic that I came 71 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:17.639 across a few years ago. Her name was Brenda Denzler. 72 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:20.879 She wrote a book about the UFO cults and the 73 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:26.520 whole phenomenon. Excuse me, how there might be a religious 74 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:29.719 component to a lot of this stuff and how it 75 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.960 ties into alien cults UFO cults. But I was actually 76 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:37.400 surprised when I saw the candidness of that nineteen sixty 77 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:40.919 Brookings Institute report, which was basically saying that they knew 78 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:44.879 back then that if they released or claimed to have 79 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:48.879 disclosure alien you know, existence, alien life claims, that it 80 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:54.000 would really undo the whole Western civilization ethos of Biblical Christianity, 81 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:56.599 et cetera. So they've known this for a long time. 82 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:59.120 And that's just one, I think, key piece of data 83 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:00.639 that I came across. So I think I put that 84 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:02.159 one in my second book when I was doing an 85 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:05.439 analysis of a lot of alien movies. You know, in 86 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:08.879 my view, I think that people are more inclined to 87 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:13.280 believe in aliens from movies and video games and all 88 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:16.519 the propaganda that we've had since we were kids, as 89 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:20.319 opposed to like actual, you know, prove for evidence for 90 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:23.319 such things. And I didn't mention this to you guys, 91 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:25.000 but I was on another podcast when we were talking 92 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:28.000 about this, but it's actually in the Talmud that there's 93 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:31.759 eighteen thousand worlds that God created. So if you look 94 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:35.720 up a lot of Jewish theology, rabbinic theology, they will 95 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:39.000 say that they're big believers in the possibility or the 96 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:42.160 existence of alien life. So it's not really part of 97 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:45.120 the Biblical story, but it is part of other traditions. 98 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:47.480 I mean, you could say it overlaps even with ancient 99 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:49.879 pagan traditions of the Gods coming and visiting and this 100 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:53.759 kind of stuff. Maybe the Genesis six Nephelin element does 101 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:56.639 plan to this in some way. But yeah, I think 102 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.480 that there's a couple layers of deception going on. You've 103 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:04.959 got the long term spiritual deception that goes back millennium, 104 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:07.720 back to the Fall, and then you've got more recent 105 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:13.240 localized black ops deception that not just deep state actors 106 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:19.240 like Brookings Institute, but actual CIA support fostering funding and 107 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:24.600 like basically creating I would argue the modern UFO alien 108 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:26.639 mythos interesting. 109 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:30.680 That's something that we've been go ahead, sorry. 110 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:32.759 Jump jump into a cliff high Man because he just 111 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:34.680 he's talking about this, dude, it's crazy. 112 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:36.759 Well, I mean, I don't want to be a dead 113 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:40.360 horse further to death. But we have been talking about 114 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:45.920 how everyone's perception of aliens UFOs is prepackaged and given 115 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:49.439 to you by Hollywood, Yeah, and by these various governing bodies, 116 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:53.160 you know, aided in things that NASA disseminates. And so 117 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:56.879 I think it's important to check in with people, especially 118 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:58.560 on the cusp of what does feel a lot like 119 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:04.000 some sort of government back disclosure. Yeah, that our opinions 120 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:07.199 of these things, whatever they're going to show us, are 121 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:11.079 not at all, you know, organic, They are entirely fed 122 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.600 to us by what you said, video games, Hollywood, video games, certainly, 123 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:16.879 I mean it takes it to a whole nother level, 124 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:21.199 especially when you consider after the nineties how gripped an 125 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:24.680 entire generation, you know, Millennials for certain, were by video 126 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:27.720 games and that narrative, that alien narrative. 127 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.040 There's no shortage of it, and it really fleshes it out. 128 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:30.199 Man. 129 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.680 It gives a lot of really compelling theories to chew 130 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:36.439 on things that sort of parallel gnostic or New age 131 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:40.439 belief systems that already exist. And so yeah, I just 132 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:42.879 I think it's really important to point out to people 133 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:45.480 like you don't have an idea about what these are. 134 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:47.759 Your ideas about what these are are given to you. 135 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:52.240 Yeah, yeah, I think there's really in my view, I mean, 136 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:55.560 I'm always open to debating anybody who does believe in aliens. 137 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:57.560 I've wanted to do an alien debate for many years. 138 00:06:57.560 --> 00:06:59.759 I haven't really found anybody who was open to doing it. 139 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.720 But anybody who does believe that there are extraterrestrial biological 140 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:07.000 entities or whatever, I'm happy to do that. I tend 141 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:09.920 to think that there is a spiritual thing going on 142 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:12.839 that's going on on Earth. I agree with Jacques Belle, 143 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:17.079 who was a government affiliated person a computer science is 144 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:20.079 working with the I think DARPA and other entities before 145 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:22.480 he passed away. But he's not even a Christian. He 146 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:25.399 doesn't have any sort of, you know, spiritual sensibilities in 147 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:29.000 that sense. And Vali was famous for saying there's some 148 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.240 kind of large scale deception going on here because they're 149 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:35.120 not from other planets. Whatever this is, it's actually terrestrial. 150 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:38.480 And he says that he thinks that there's basically a 151 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:42.319 spiritual deception going on and a government deep state thing 152 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:45.040 going on. So he's a very well known famous researcher 153 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:48.600 in fact, Spielberg's Close Encounters of the of the Third Kind, 154 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:51.160 that famous movie, which I think in many ways solidified 155 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:54.839 a lot of people's thought processes on where aliens come from, 156 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:57.920 what they are, as well as H. G. Wells's you know, 157 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:00.560 War of the World. This is a classic that I 158 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:02.959 don't know. You guys have probably heard of the Orson 159 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.920 Wells broadcast of H. G. Wells's Thing, which was a 160 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:11.639 Princeton Research Project PSYOPS study to see how people reacted 161 00:08:11.680 --> 00:08:15.879 to the announcement of alien invasion and alien life, and 162 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:17.639 that was being studied. There was a whole book written 163 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:21.560 by a Tavistock connected guy, Hadley ken Trell. He wrote 164 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:25.160 a book, Invaders from Mars, on how people reacted to 165 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:28.439 the announcement of a fake alien invasion, and of course 166 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:31.399 everybody believed it because the authority structures on the radio 167 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:34.360 told them that it was a real alien invasion. So 168 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:38.639 Tavistock learned a lot from that. These are all real people, 169 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:40.360 real books you can look up. I put Heally ken 170 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:43.080 Trill in my first book, because you got somebody working 171 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.799 literally with the Tabsaw Institute about how people writing a 172 00:08:46.799 --> 00:08:49.399 giant book about how people react to a fake alien invasion, 173 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:54.120 like in the nineteen forties or fifties. So every time 174 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:57.279 in my experience that I look into people who are 175 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:01.519 key players in these stories or in this mythos. For example, 176 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.440 if we go back to the first couple famous abductees, 177 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:10.720 you have Georgia Damski. He's into Theostrian resocriutionism. He has 178 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:13.240 this wild story being abducted and ends up being very 179 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:15.600 similar to a science fiction novel that's written around the 180 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:18.840 same time. And you know, he's just kind of weird, 181 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:22.080 like backwoods Like he looks like a drug addict dude 182 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:25.360 from the backwoods, and you're like, why would anybody care 183 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:28.440 what this guy says about abduction. Well, the head of 184 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.960 the CIA cared enough to threaten to sue anyone who 185 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:36.519 would challenge his story. So this propelled Georgia Dampski's story 186 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:39.120 into the limelight to be like the big famous first 187 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:42.919 full on I was taken to the ship stuff. And 188 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:46.639 then a few years later you get this weird civil 189 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.279 rights activist couple who's also into the occult, Betty and 190 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:53.320 Barney Hill. They claim to have another abduction story. They 191 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:56.159 start an alien cult, and they're also eventually called out 192 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:59.440 as frauds too, So the big stories are generally bound 193 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:02.679 up with a lot of deception and fraud and similar 194 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:06.759 parallel to that. At the same time, Rank Corporation put 195 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:09.679 out a report called, I think for the Air Force 196 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:13.120 called a Project Sign and this is nineteen forty nine, 197 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:15.399 and a guy from a Rank Corporation named doctor James 198 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:19.320 Lipp was part of this white paper and he says, 199 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:21.759 this is the first official paper that they put out 200 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:26.639 on this phenomenon. And he says, well, although I deny 201 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.440 the existence of aliens or any possibility of it, he says, 202 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:32.879 there's something going on here, and it relates to nukes 203 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:36.679 and atomics and disarmament and all this kind of stuff. 204 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:38.840 So from the very earliest days of the Rank Corporation 205 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:41.200 putting out of paper, it was kind of tied to 206 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:45.240 the idea of atomic nuclear disarmament. There's a reason I'm 207 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.279 going to explain why that is. I think even in 208 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:52.039 this first debunking paper. Then you get not too long 209 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.600 after that propaganda that comes out in Hollywood, for example, 210 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:59.919 the movie Day the Earth Stood Still, which everybody should 211 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:04.240 that because that movie has this Jesus like character comes 212 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:06.519 down as an alien. He's a Carpenter, and then he 213 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:09.120 warns everybody, if you don't create a world government and 214 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:13.759 if you don't disarm and disarmament means in all like 215 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:15.919 everything that you in wants, right, not just getting rid 216 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:19.159 of you know, ICBMs or whatever, but also you not 217 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:23.960 having guns. Right, So it's total disarmament, socialist cut new age, 218 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:27.559 you know, religion type of message. That's the point of 219 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:29.360 that whole movie. That was a huge like one of 220 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:32.159 the first big alien blockbusters around the same time as 221 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:37.440 for the World, and the message is international socialism. Yeah, 222 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:40.440 that's the modern remake with Keanu, but the old one 223 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:43.080 is so that you have this guy from the CIA 224 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:47.879 consulting on it, if I recalled C. D. Jackson and Ceedee. 225 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.919 Jackson is also the head of the Doctrinal Warfare Program, 226 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:54.639 And the Doctrinal Warfare Program was the CI's plan to 227 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:58.799 get the churches in America on board with the Cold War, 228 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:03.480 to make them instruments of Americanism. So the gospel theology 229 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:06.919 all that secondary too, being a kind of soft power 230 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:10.720 for America in the Cold War. Mainly they were interested 231 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:13.279 in the Catholic Church because it was globally the biggest 232 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:17.440 at that time. So they wanted to steer it towards Americanism. 233 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:19.559 But the point is that the guy who's in charge 234 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:23.240 of that church infiltration program, this is all very public, 235 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:26.279 declassified stuff, it's called the Doctrinal Warfare program, he's also 236 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:30.320 consulting on alien movies. What because it's building narratives, it's 237 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:33.759 building stories that myths that people need. I believe they 238 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:37.039 were trying to build this new alien myth at this time. 239 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.320 And this is when nineteen late forties fifties sudden explosion 240 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:44.720 of alien movies out the wazoo from Hollywood. And it's 241 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:49.159 not accidental that not just CD Jackson, but I think XANUK, 242 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:53.000 like the other movie studios, they were also working with 243 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:56.399 the OSS, the Office of Wartime Information to pump out 244 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:57.440 these alien movies. 245 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:00.960 I think, as a sioupum, it seems like there is 246 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.440 a lot of things. I didn't realize that the character 247 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:09.240 that Keanu plays in the Day the Earth Stood Still 248 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:13.720 was sort of a Messianic figure or Jesus figure archetype. 249 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:17.960 And what's interesting about that is I think it was 250 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.639 like Alice Bailey through the works of Heleno Blovotsky predicted 251 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:26.399 that in twenty twenty five or sometime after twenty twenty 252 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:28.360 five a d there would be. 253 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:33.679 Sort of the return of Christ. And I'm only peripherally 254 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:34.120 aware of that. 255 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:35.480 I mean, you can google it, you can see that 256 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:41.519 it's within Alice Bailey's predictions. But we're in this really 257 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:45.840 weird place right now where we have this drone incursion 258 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:50.360 and you make of that what you will. But when 259 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.120 you conjoin that with this annual pump fake that the 260 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:58.000 government seems to do. The Pentagon talks about recovering off 261 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.960 world craft, non human biologics, they're using sort of coded 262 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.320 language to I think prime the public to get ready 263 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:07.039 because you don't want to just dump it on them 264 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:12.679 all at once. And now you have, you know, the 265 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:16.240 federal government arguing with the local municipalities as to the 266 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:19.279 nature of these things that are invading our airspace. And 267 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:21.960 I can't help but look at it and feel like 268 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:25.440 we are on the cusp of this final you know 269 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:29.559 that this disclosure program coming to fruition. 270 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:31.840 And it's been a long game, dude. I mean, you're 271 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:32.759 talking about the forties. 272 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:36.720 The other day, Top was talking on the show about 273 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:41.720 the Battle of Los Angeles, and it just seems like 274 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:44.200 for the longest time they do these things. They pop 275 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:46.759 up in our in our you know, field of awareness, 276 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:50.039 and then they fizzle out into nothingness, and it's I think, 277 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:54.840 reaching a critical mass. But there is a character, and 278 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:57.120 to my own detriment, I'm going to bring them up 279 00:14:57.159 --> 00:14:59.960 again while the chat goes wild but has frozen. 280 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:01.559 Just give it away your fingers. 281 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:03.039 Here we go. This is crazy. 282 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:03.960 I don't understand it. 283 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:06.799 So there's a character named Cliff High who is a 284 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:08.720 systems expert, a programmer. 285 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:09.480 He writes code. 286 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:12.639 He developed a web bot in the early nineties, and 287 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:14.879 this webbot scrapes data off the Internet. 288 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:15.799 And uses it to make predictions. 289 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:17.679 And one of the things that it predicted was this 290 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.200 Joe Rogan Donald Trump interview, and it labeled that as 291 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:25.600 a pivotal moment, a temporal marker. If this thing happens, 292 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:28.279 it's a significant moment in history. And then this other 293 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:32.039 thing is going to happen shortly afterwards. So Cliff High says, 294 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:36.399 the data is telling me thirty nine days after this event, 295 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:40.519 this podcast, we're going to get the beginning of what 296 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:44.240 he calls melee and which I pronounced wrong and will 297 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:45.600 continue to pronounce wrong. 298 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:50.639 So this is supposed to be thank you Melee, Uh. 299 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:54.600 Because no way, Jose, Oh wow, the cliff I cocks 300 00:15:54.639 --> 00:16:02.240 are again ye shout out. So basically this moment would 301 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:06.320 be marked by an aerial event. Cliff High maintains that 302 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:08.559 it's going to be alien in nature. You can make 303 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:10.960 whatever you want of him. I'm highly skeptical of him. 304 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:15.159 Is also a well his father worked for the military 305 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:19.279 and because of that they would have dinner often with 306 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:21.919 CIA agents. So make of that which you will, right, 307 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:25.919 especially if you consider that this is all a psychological 308 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.639 operation that's been going on for the past seventy years 309 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:32.200 or whatever it is, so long story short. He says, 310 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:34.840 these drones that we're seeing in the sky that didn't 311 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:37.120 fast show up around the timeframe that he gave us, 312 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:39.639 one of them is going to be a human being element. 313 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:42.600 The other two are going to be alien elements, which 314 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:44.879 I would push back against because I don't think that 315 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:49.000 these things are aliens, given the discussion that we just 316 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:53.200 had about how none of our opinions of them are organic. 317 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:55.679 They're all given to us by Hollywood and such. So 318 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:59.679 I think that this discussion trying to iron out the 319 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.759 deep tale of these things. Because I agree with you, 320 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:05.400 Jay I don't think that these things are or maybe 321 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:07.880 I'm misrepresenting what you said earlier, but I don't think 322 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:12.920 that these things come from outside of our planet. 323 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:14.480 I don't think they come from space. 324 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:17.920 And it even seems that within the UFO UAP community 325 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:21.759 in the past couple of years, they've become very comfortable 326 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:24.839 with this narrative that they come from the either interdimensional 327 00:17:25.039 --> 00:17:27.359 or from our oceans, or some sort of mixture of 328 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:32.000 the two. And I think that right now where we sit, 329 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:34.599 it might be an incredibly important time. 330 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:38.000 We might be on the cusp of this big reveal. 331 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:40.880 And the problem with that, Jay, is that if you 332 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:43.200 haven't done your research, if you're somebody who never gave 333 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:45.799 these things any credence, well then you're going to be 334 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:48.000 left at the mercy of the government to tell you 335 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.960 what the truth is about these things. So, Jay, what 336 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:57.880 are your ideas in regards to these entities, because the 337 00:17:57.920 --> 00:17:59.960 way that they're presented to us is huge. It's like 338 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:03.359 there's some abduction stories, there's some Hollywood stuff, there's some 339 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:07.319 miscellaneous footage from maybe NASA that you are meant to 340 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:10.960 give more credibility to. Maybe the military industrial complex is 341 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:14.839 pumping out, you know, jets encounters with these things, where 342 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:16.240 do you place them. 343 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:19.599 There's a couple of things I would suggest everybody look 344 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.880 at if they haven't. There's a great documentary called Mirage Men, 345 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:25.880 which is an interview with a bunch of people who 346 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:31.599 have been involved openly in disseminating the alien mythos story 347 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:34.359 people from intelligence. There's one of the most famous is 348 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:38.079 Richard Dodie, who was Air Force counterintelligence and he's a 349 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:40.799 significant portion of that documentary in terms of the interviews, 350 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:44.039 and he talks about the way that they would profile 351 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:49.519 and find people that were perfect fits for giving disinformation 352 00:18:50.279 --> 00:18:54.119 to let them then disseminate a lot of alien bs. 353 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:57.759 And he did this for about two decades, and so 354 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:01.640 they talk about two different people from sixties, seventies and 355 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:03.599 then into the eighties. You get these new crop of 356 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.359 characters and it's a pretty fascinating pattern if you pay 357 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:09.440 attention to it. So I would recommend also go back 358 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:12.160 and watch the old interview that Joe Rogan did with 359 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:15.200 Bob Lazar, because he seems to be the more recent 360 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:20.319 version of this choosing of people to disseminate information. The 361 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:23.640 most most recent past Bob Lazar would be Tom DeLong 362 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:26.680 from Linklin eighty two and all of these cast of characters. 363 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:28.039 When you go all the way back to the I 364 00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:30.400 think his name is Bob Moore, the boomer dude in 365 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.200 the eighties that they chose, like Richard Doty is just 366 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:35.519 sitting there saying, Yeah, what we do is we basically 367 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:38.440 find people that are really into the alien story, who 368 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:42.799 really believe it. They are typically profiled as kind of narcissistic, 369 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:46.599 you know, feel like they've been not recognized types of people. 370 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:49.680 We bring him into the military base, We tell him, 371 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:52.720 you're special. You're gonna be our ambassador. We made a 372 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:56.759 deal with aliens. You're gonna tell everybody that there's this concord, 373 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.920 this pact that was made, so go forth disseminate, but 374 00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:02.960 keep a secret. And then they would even in some 375 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.200 cases like they would bring a general and play a 376 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:09.160 VHS tape of like some you know, shitty Hollywood B 377 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:11.920 movie type craft taken off, and they would tell these 378 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.599 people this, uh, and they of course they believe it, right. 379 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:17.079 And the first guy that they chose was Paul Benowitz. 380 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:21.279 He was like super boomer patriot dude who would never well, 381 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:24.720 the generals wouldn't lie to me, so he, for you know, 382 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:30.319 several years disseminated literally what Air Force Disinformation wanted disseminate it. 383 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:32.839 The next character was that Bob Moore guy, I think 384 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:35.279 his name was Bob Moore. And then they have examples 385 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:39.160 like Lynhamilton, how documentary. Then we come up to the 386 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:41.799 next phase, which is Bobb Blazarre and now with today's 387 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:43.200 we've got like Blink one eighty two. 388 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:46.039 Dude, by the way, didn't Bob Lazar actually say that 389 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:48.200 he's not sure what they showed him that he was 390 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:50.880 meant to convey in other words, like he doesn't know 391 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:53.720 what was real and what wasn't real, because he recognizes 392 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:56.119 there was some element that was fake and meant to 393 00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:58.000 spread the word in other. 394 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:03.359 Words, exactly. And the verse engineered alien technology story that's 395 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:07.079 kind of first at Roswell, and it's just recycled right 396 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:11.720 from all the way back from Paul Benowitz up through 397 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:14.160 all these characters that they kind of recycle the same stuff. 398 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:15.839 And if you've listened to Tom DeLong, he says the 399 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:18.279 same things like they brought the general to me, and 400 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.680 the general told me all they wouldn't lie to me, right, 401 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:25.319