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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Clips and Dip.

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Speaker 2: It is Friday, so we are coming at you live

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our normal third host. I don't know what order it is,

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but he is out of town right now in Montana,

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so Adam and I are holding it down after I

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don't know, one of the the second best win maybe

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o the Clipper season.

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Speaker 3: I think it might have to be above. I thought

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the best win went the win against Minnesota. Yeah, last

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week and with Kawhi dropping forty one with the game

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winner in Houston to get into the All Star Break

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with a little bit momentum, that was big time?

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Speaker 1: Is that a first? Like?

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Speaker 2: When is the last time this team came into an

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All Star break not looking like they were in a

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straight slump?

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Speaker 3: The only other one was it two years ago when

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coach lew got kicked out against the Golden State Warriors

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and they pulled through, like right after they said PJ.

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Tucker home and bones Hiland home. Yeah, the game right

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before the All Star break. The only other time.

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Speaker 2: It feels like they always hit a little bit of

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a slump, But not not this time around. Not this

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time around, Charles said in here. Charles still gave us

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some notes for those of you just tuning in. We're

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listening later. Adam and I are here. Charles is not,

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but he did send us a few notes to sort

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of keep us on tracks, so we don't just talk

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about movies and dips over here. But he said, haggler

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or no haggle, The Timberwolves win still stands as the

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best of the season.

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Speaker 1: Adam is haggling.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm inclined to agree just with the just

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with the Kauhi game winner.

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Speaker 3: The game winner was magical, Like that was much better

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than the game winner against the Pelicans in the game

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they shouldn't have been playing around with to begin with

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earlier in the season. This was on the road. Everybody

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knew it was going to him, turn around Joe and

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one draws the foul. They were down fifteen in that

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game early on. I mean, that was that was one

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of the better wins anybody's had this season.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, who's the more surprising ad I already know your answer,

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but we're just gonna since it is the start of

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All Star weekend, we're just gonna talk about it anyways, Like,

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who's the more surprising? Ad Kawhi or was it Fox?

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The last minute.

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Speaker 3: Had for Jannis. I think yeah, I mean Kawhi should

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have been in obviously from the.

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Speaker 1: Get game from the beginning.

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Speaker 3: That was wild. They righted the wrong and that was

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the coaches vote. The coaches messed that up. They didn't

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vote in Kawhi for some reason. I thought, so Wait, dearon,

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Fox just got in, right, Yeah, you just got in.

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I'm trying to think they've added I think four guys

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to this All Star Game. Now we're up to like

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twenty eight All Stars or something like that. But Kawhi

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should have been in their day one. Obviously he could

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have been. I mean, I wish we voted him in

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as a starter, but just level of play end up

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being All NBA First Team this season, he's been that good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is he in? The MVP talks.

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Speaker 3: The two games under five hundreds. Still, I think it's

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hard to make that argument. They start six and twenty one.

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If they go on to get five games over five

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hundred or something like that to end the year and

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they get out of the play in that, then maybe

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you start to make that argument. But SGA, you know,

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he's the reigning MVP. They still are the best team

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in the Western Conference. It's tough to unseat him and

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Nikola Jokicic. I think can only miss like one more

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game before he's ineligible for postseason awards, MVP Awards, NBA

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All NBA Awards.

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Speaker 2: I think a repeat last year though, like at the

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All Star Break, were you're talking about, like where is

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Kawhi in your MVP rankings because he was getting some

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love I feel like from a very minor crowd, but uh.

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Speaker 3: Well he didn't come back to like mid January last year,

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two years.

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Speaker 1: Ago, two years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, the thirty game having fun, but it's your

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ear the thirty game stretch that he had two years ago. Yeah,

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where you set the all type efficiency record with fifty

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seven fifty two to ninety shooting splits over thirty games.

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we could at least get the conversation started. But it's

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totally contingent on if they come out, you know, win

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seven of their ten coming out of the All Star Break,

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and there's some tough games coming up and they just

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continue to win, and it is Darius Garland going to

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be back, you know, if he's not back for a while,

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and Kawhi keeps carrying them, then you can make more

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of an argument.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed. We're getting some questions about that in the chat.

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out of the All Star break, do you think that

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we'll get something resembling a timeline of sorts or at

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least an update of any kind.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if update is that somebody from the media

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asked coach lou about it and he says, I'm not sure,

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then yeah, maybe something like that. I don't yes, because.

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Speaker 2: The latest was that, Uh, their concerns still about the

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surgery toe.

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Speaker 3: There's some soreness in his left toe. Yeah, that's the

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one that had the turf toe last season. The right

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toe not so much. That was a toe sprain this year.

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Speaker 1: Have you done any deep dives on the recurrence of

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turf toe? What's uh? What are you looking at there?

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Speaker 3: Uh? The only thing I thought of was Okay, so

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he was playing with Cleveland. He came back seven games

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into the season. They were more in a win now mode.

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The Clippers are looking towards the future. I just think

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they're being more overly cautious because they know that they're

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not a contender this season. The Calves were so they

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were playing him and they wanted to try to get

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him up to speed, but the Clippers aren't going to

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push him like that with the state of the team

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right now.

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Speaker 1: How have you felt about a honeymoon on the Cavs.

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Speaker 3: He looked great. I've heard the nickname.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just use it.

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely rooting for him. I'm definitely rooting rooting for him.

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Anything else you want to talk about from this game

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against the Rockets, I mean.

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Speaker 3: It was about as good of a feel good way

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as you could have right before the All Star break,

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and that was it. It tells you once again, it

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just reinforces the fact that this team is not quit

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on the season. If you're down fifteen and the All

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Star break is right there and you could have a

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foot out the door because you know, you got plans

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and you could give in and give up on that game,

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and they still don't. I thought that was really special.

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Speaker 1: And do you have any thoughts on Benedict Mathern's debut.

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Speaker 3: I mean, definitely look better in game two. I was

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really encouraged because what do you think will He was

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doing everything to me but score the basketball, which is

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the trait that he's relied upon most. That is the

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most you know, consistent thing with him is he's a

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bucket out there, and actually he has not been hitting

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so far, but he's been making plays. He's been playing defense,

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he's been making good passes out there. That's the stuff

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we kind of worried about, not whether or not he

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can score. So I expect that to come along.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that is going to be one

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of those difficult things, especially in the absence of like

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a true playsetter point guard. I think that that's a

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little bit difficult. You know, only took two threes, didn't

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make either of them. But yeah, like you said, he

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was doing a lot of other stuff and he was

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still a positive contributor in that game where you know,

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if you're looking at the plus mind, there's a lot

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of ups and downs going on there.

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Speaker 3: He hit those clutch free throws late, Like he hit

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four straight free throws in the fourth quarter that were

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all big time shots to make, and that's one of

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the abilities he has. He gets fout a lot. I

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think he's attempting like seven free throws per thirty six

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minutes or something like that. So that's needed on this team,

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especially when you lose someone like James Harden.

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Speaker 1: So did Matherins performance?

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Speaker 2: Are you are you now assured that the zoom move

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was one thousand percent?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Are you saying good riddance? Are you burning your jersey?

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Speaker 3: How dare you you know that would never happen? I

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got the zoo flu right afterwards. I literally woke up

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sick the next day with the flu, like it hit

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me so hard emotionally, somehow came down with the flu

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ors up that I called it the Zoo flu. But

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I think it was still more so about the two

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first round picks and Matherns more of a wait and

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see because you look at it, they're gonna have to

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pay John Collins and him this summer. Harden's salary is

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off the books, obviously, Do you just redistribute that to

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those two guys. Is Benedict Matherine a good fit for

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this team moving forward? How much is he going to

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man twenty twenty five million? What about John Collins with

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how good he's been. I think a lots to be

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more so Benedict Maantherin though, because we've seen a lot

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of John Collins.

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Speaker 1: Adam was absolutely physically ill after the Zoo trade. Let

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us know if you had any any symptoms, if you

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have any ongoing symptoms and.

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Speaker 2: The chat post Zoo trade. But you're right, it's you know,

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it's a move for the future. I wish we had

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some sort of timeline on Garland. Obviously, as you said,

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it's it's not.

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Speaker 1: You know it.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't determine necessarily the outcome of anything this year.

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I mean, I think it could help them out, it

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would bump them up, but it doesn't like vault them

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into a contender conversation or anything. But having two guys

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now that I mean, you know, look are going to

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factor in potentially to this team's next timeline and having

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a lot of question marks.

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Speaker 1: It feels very classic Clippers.

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Speaker 3: But ew, yeah, it's a bridge gap to the next

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era or we're seeing some of the guys who could

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be involved in that now instead of thinking, well, it's

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gonna be Darius Garland and Beats zubas the only two

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guys on the books. Darius Garland, maybe Don Collins, maybe

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Benedict Matherin. We'll see what happens. But I think to

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your point about it doesn't vault them to being a contender,

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So why are you pushing him to come back anyways

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this season when everything's really about the future. It was

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Lawrence Frank in the post trade deadline pressure talking about

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how we want to get back to a contender status.

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Basically I'm paraphrasing, so that's admitting you're not one this season.

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We can all see their ceiling is probably maybe a

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first round win. Maybe that's their ceiling. Best case scenario,

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you still are likely going to have to get out

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of the plane. Why I'm saying, the goal is to

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get out of the play and to begin with but

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that's gonna really difficult.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we'll do a little standings. Watch later

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in the show. We got a super chat. Anytime you

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come those you send those three those are going up

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Speaker 3: Uh, but I don't care what they say.

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Speaker 1: Wait a second, well there are some caveats.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Uh the super chat this is from MB three

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zero one two. They said, Kuhi got Leonard. Do you

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think another championship window can be built with Kawhi and

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youth or is this more of a post Kawhi move.

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I mean, from what we've heard from the you know,

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from the front office. So far, they're looking at clear

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in the books, they're they're they're looking at retooling and

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rebuilding in twenty twenty seven. But I think I think

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the answer is the unfortunate answer is it depends like

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what does his deal look like? You know, what is

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he happy enough playing in Los Angeles? What is he

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willing to sacrifice?

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Speaker 1: Which is a lot to.

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Speaker 2: Ask for a guy who has, you know, put his

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body on the line pretty hard for this franchise. But

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Speaker 3: Yeah, kaw I said something jokingly. I think it might've

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been after the winning Sacramento right after the trade deadline,

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like maybe I can ride the young guys coat tails

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at some point. But he's going to be thirty five

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later this summer. This will be the final year of

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his contract where he's making about fifty million, and I

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think you put a best will, it's dependent does he

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want to come back on a cheap deal and hang

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around and be a mentor and also be a you know,

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he can start at times and have throwback type games

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here and there, but he's less relied upon as being

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the franchise player and he can just kind of blend

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in and star in his role, and you know, I

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think that would be interesting, but there's so much we

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have to figure out before that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting a lot of stuff just since we're

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on the Kawhi topic here. Not to derail things too much,

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but we are getting a lot of questions obviously about

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the aspiration thing, which we know there was never going

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to be any sort of ruling before this All Star break.

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Does the put in my tinfoiliest of hats on here?

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Does the All Star nod give you any indication that

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that could be a positive thing for the Clippers, that

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maybe maybe things aren't looking too shabby in the old.

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Speaker 1: Law firm there.

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Speaker 3: Guys still had to get hurt for him to get in,

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So I don't think that much of it. He's that

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into a dome and the fact that nothing, they haven't

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laid down any punishment, any ruling. We don't know what's

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going to happen. The eighth episode from Pablo Toy came

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out this week, which was kind of expected just because

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leading up to the All Star Game being an into

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a dome. Of course, that would be big traction for

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him to talk more about it. I'm not saying there

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wasn't anything new or revelatory too. Maybe some people feel

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like there was. I thought some of it was rehash.

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Speaker 2: But you need has to be finding out where Nancy

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Guthrie is of this. Enough of this Clippers nonsense. You

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don't get on the real issues.

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Speaker 3: Pablo Well, I think he did another one this week

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about the subject matter that wasn't Clippers related. But uh, yeah,

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I it doesn't. It doesn't tip their hand to me

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to being able to read whether or not this is

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going to be in the Clippers favor, this ruling coming

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up at some point when it could be this offseason.

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Speaker 2: We yeah, we really don't. We really don't, And I

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don't know what do you think we're looking at there?

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in the acquisition of picks? I mean, obviously the Zoo

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deal was just so sweet. I don't know if you're

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in a spot like the Clippers are at right now,

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how you would turn it down. But do you think

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that that was all at all a factor?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Lawrence Frank said that, you know, we operate

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without worrying about that or thinking about that, because's douted

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their control. Obviously, now you'd worry that a ruling comes

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down and all of a sudden, worst case scenario, you

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lose the picks that you got from the Indiana Pacers

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or something like that. That would obviously be worse one

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of the worst case scenarios. I guess you could say.

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Speaker 1: Can they do that?

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Speaker 3: Though that's no games, no idea, that's not even ours.

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I don't want to speculate too much. I don't I

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don't know where this is going. I just know it's

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looming and it's going to be talked about. Adam Silver

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is probably going to be asked about it tomorrow with

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the media when he speaks about taking and everything else,

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and I'll probably just say it's a league wide investigation.

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There's nothing more to say at this point and dodge it.

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But you know it's understandable that he would, So we'll

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see if anything comes out tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Well, that doesn't I think that about sums up where

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we're at after this latest Clippers victory going into the

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All Star breaks strong.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a.

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Speaker 2: Little audio break here for our audio listeners. If you're

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watching this on live on YouTube dot com at Clippers Podcast.

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There's no break, as there should be. But coming up

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we'll talk a little bit about the All Star Game.

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I know Adam has some thrilling updates about the celebrity Game.

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We'll talk a little bit more about Kawhi and his appearance,

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as well as the Clipper standings and what the rest

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of the season could look like coming out of this break.

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So all that more coming up in three two one.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. In Clips and div Season four, episode twenty three,

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I'm out of Mosley's will Updyke.

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Speaker 1: These seamless transitions, Man, Sometimes when it's just the two

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of us, it's like it's just water, you know, flow.

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Speaker 3: What does What does Chuck always say when when one

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of us is out.

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Speaker 1: Unattainably, unavoidably detained.

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Speaker 3: Unavoidably detained. Chuck is out for this one. But we're

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doing the live for you guys. It looks like we

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have this up on the audio coming up too. But uh,

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it wasn't just the guys getting you know, a big victory.

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But some guys didn't play in that game against the

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Houston Rockets, including Niko Batum for rest purposes. Now. I

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don't think the league is going to find the Clippers

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for taking because of this, because they know they don't

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have their first round pick this season. That wouldn't make

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any sense. And Niko Batum is an older player and

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they got a lot of new guys out there. But

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what did you think about Nico getting a little bit

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of rest there in Game two against Houston?

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Speaker 1: Love it? Love it? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We got to preserve Nico as much as we can,

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especially during this Like I always feel like during these

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periods of new fit things, another little spotlight goes on

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Nico because he is like he can be such.

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Speaker 1: A glue guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I Nico's the one I, you know, worry about least

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when it comes to getting back in and getting back

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to a rhythm and flow. If he was out for

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a couple of weeks, I feel like he can hit

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the ground running as soon as he came back because

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he's sets a Charlotte solid vet and that's shootings. You know.

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I don't think it's lasting to go even as a

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veteran that's always going to be there. It made sense, uh,

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And I don't know what's gonna happen moving forward now,

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like Bogie hasn't been playing at all and did not

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get traded at the trade deadline. But if you do

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get Darius Garland back, some of these young guys are

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going to have to lose minutes with Kobe Sanders and

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Jordan Miller. I know some people were down on them

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because the last week or so they haven't been playing

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as well. It's like, guys, this is this is how

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this works. When you're developing young players, They're they're not

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always that consistent, They're not always that steady or liable.

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These are the growing pains you have to go through.

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This is all part of it. A lot of people

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are getting on Jordan Miller recently for not playing as well,

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and it's like this, this is this is what it is.

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You got to accept it to some degree.

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Speaker 2: Well, and this is like every franchise that has it

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rebuild or has like young stars, you're going through a

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period of some rough basketball. Even much higher draft picks

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than a Kobe Sanders. It's just it's just sort of unavoidable.

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And it's one of those things like you can't have

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it both ways. Everybody wants the team of like young

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young all stars, but you gotta you gotta get them there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you know you're gonna take your lumps

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along the way as young players in this league. Even

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though Jordan Miller's twenty six, he's young when it comes

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to experience. Kobe Sanders is a rookie this year. They

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still have been instrumental in this Clippers turnaround over the

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last six seven weeks. So let's not get on them

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too hard when they have a couple down games here

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and there. It's gonna be all right. They still have

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been pivotal and this is how you build, this is

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how you develop. We haven't been this stage for so long.

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I think people have forgotten, you know that you do

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have to go through those growing pains as I mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely getting some love for mathin in the chat.

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He won over Stump forty five twenty two in that

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Rockets game, So that's great to hear. And speaking of rest,

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you know, like I feel like the Clippers have kind

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of slumped before going into the All Star break, and

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we've seen them come out of long periods of rest

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in previous iterations. Obviously, this team has gone through several

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core information changes. Even in this era, which is this

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era over.

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Speaker 1: What do we call it now?

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Speaker 3: It's not a contending era. There were always times the

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last few years, outside the twenty one to twenty two

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season where they're missing Kawhi the entire time, Paul George

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on and plays thirty games. Outside of that, there were always,

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you know, sections and segments of the season that would

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get us back into saying, if this goes right, if

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this player gets healthy, we could talk ourselves into still

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being a contender. I don't think you can do that

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this season. I think even the most positive Clipper fan, no,

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they may still think there's a chance, but like I

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think success would be getting into a first round series

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and playing competitive basketball, getting experienced for the young guys,

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and let the chips fall where they may. But I

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don't think they're a contender, especially in this Western Conference.

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Right now. It's just you lost, losing of eatsa Zubats.

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I mean, what does that do for you in matchups

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against you know, uh Nicol jokicchanew in a playoff series,

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who was basically like add or below his averages last

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year in that seven game series, and a lot of

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that is due to it beats a Zubas. You don't

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have your back line defense guy anymore, your defensive anchor.

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That hurts you. I just don't know if you can

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really make that case anymore. And that hasn't been that

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hasn't been the deal for years with this Clippers team.

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We always thought, you know, at some point they could

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get to contender status.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, our version of contender status this year

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is like, if you can get into that seven eight

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and only have to win one one play in game,

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I would consider that a massive success on the season.

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I mean, obviously, best case scenario, you match up with

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the Spurs, you get some like actual playoff experience for

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this lineup. Hopefully you know, you have a healthy Garland

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by then, and you can get this iteration of the

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Clippers in.

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Speaker 1: Some sort of a playoff series.

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Speaker 2: And I actually do think that long term, that's better

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obviously than the outcome would have been, you know, if

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Hardened and Zoo are still on the team, because we

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you know, this year was always kind of like an

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in between year. It's a little bit of a stop

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gap year. And while we didn't know exactly what was

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gonna happen at the trade deadline, you know, the best

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case scenario is like you get playoff reps with a

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lot of older guys who already been there, so you're

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not really getting a whole lot of new data there,

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and then you know you're still looking to offload guys

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do a major shift in the offseason if you don't

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do it at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if your transitional season is making the playoffs and

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getting in a first round series and being competitive, that's

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a damn good year for a transitional phase that this

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team is going through. I mean, I think that would

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be viewed as a success. We'll see, there's too much

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work to be done with what twenty seven to twenty

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eight games left in the schedule. That gets tougher along

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the way, and they're only in ninth place right now

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on the West, so they've got plenty of work to

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do here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, Agreed.

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Speaker 2: Let's pivot a little bit to the back to the

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All Star Game. We talked about Nick Putoon getting a

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little bit of a break. Do you have any thoughts

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on what we're going to see from Kawhi in this

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All Star Game? Do you have any breaking updates you

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need to share from the celebrity game currently going on?

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As we're streaming, which is a crazy conflict for us.

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I don't know why we opted to do that, but

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I know a lot of people were peeling you away

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from what you what you'd like.

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Speaker 3: To be watching, you know, Keenan Allen can hoop a

478
00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:11,000
little bit. I thought it was interesting that Jannis had

479
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:14,640
Shams on his team, so a guy who he didn't

480
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,319
seem to be too fond of with his reporting about

481
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,200
Yiannis over the last year with the Milwaukee Bucks. Now

482
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,519
he's coaching on the sidelines here and everybody was freaking

483
00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:27,759
out that Jannis. It looked like excuse Shams was looking

484
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:31,240
at his phone while he was on the bench, like

485
00:24:31,319 --> 00:24:34,000
for breaking news. And Chris Haynes actually put out that

486
00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:36,519
Zach Levine is out for the season with the right

487
00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:40,319
hand surgery he's dealing with. As if the Kings want

488
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,400
any of the guys to be playing anyways that could

489
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,279
actually help them get victories, you know, Jared Jackson juniors

490
00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:47,680
out for the season. Hope he's okay, of course, dealing

491
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:50,240
with that adnirmal growth abnormal growth, but they said it

492
00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:54,720
wasn't cancerous, but that that's about as good as we've

493
00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:57,200
gotten so far in this game. Our taco fall has

494
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,400
been out there dumping on people at seven six a

495
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,319
little bit. It's it's not great, But are they ever?

496
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,960
Is this whole weekend? You know? Is it just more

497
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,079
about the kids? Like it? What's the principal skinner thing? Like?

498
00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:12,359
Am I out of touch? No? It's the children, Like

499
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,920
maybe it's the kids who are wrong. The older crowd

500
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,359
that bashes All Star Weekend forgets what this is really

501
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,480
about a little bit, And I'm just happy it's it

502
00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:23,440
into a dome and they're gonna put on a great

503
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,920
show for him, and we'll see what Kawhi ends up doing,

504
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,720
because I wonder what the finger issue that he was

505
00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:32,599
shaking and not even giving high fives with in that

506
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,440
game against Houston, which made that performance even better. How

507
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,279
much is he going to play in the All Star Game?

508
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:38,480
You know?

509
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah. It's it's interesting too.

510
00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: It's like talking about All Star Weekend, they're sending something

511
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,920
that the NBA is sending something like two hundred influencers

512
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,279
to the get in like content creators across social media

513
00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:58,839
platforms like to the All Star Game. So they're clearly

514
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:00,839
trying to shift it a little bit too, trying to

515
00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:03,519
figure something out there, but.

516
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,559
Speaker 1: It's been it's it's been cooked for a while. She's

517
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:08,880
well done.

518
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,039
Speaker 3: What did you think of what Kevin Durant said the

519
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,519
other day actually was postgame, I think right after the

520
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:20,119
Clippers beat him saying that. He basically said, why are

521
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,759
you guys looking at the Old Heads being the problem

522
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,400
for the All Star Game eroding? What about Luca? What

523
00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:31,599
about Nikola Jokich? Are they competing out there? Are they

524
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,759
playing hard? I'm paraphrasing that's basically what he said. And

525
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,720
I think there's two ways to look at it. First

526
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,400
of all, it's easily refutable because you're the Old Heads

527
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,440
for a reason. You've been in way more All Star

528
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:48,039
Games for way longer than Luca and Jokic have been

529
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:50,839
in the All Star Games. So if anyone's responsible for

530
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,279
the game being less competitive, it would be the Old

531
00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:55,240
Heads and the guys who've been playing in it for

532
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,039
years that changed the level of competitiveness in the game.

533
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,880
The other I could be Kevin Durant trying to inspire

534
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,519
more competition by taking a shot there at Luca and

535
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,440
I like it, like it?

536
00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:13,279
Speaker 1: I like it? Yeah, why not light a fire under him?

537
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,640
I don't know, like competition, Like.

538
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,799
Speaker 2: The lack of competition at the All Star Game isn't

539
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:23,920
something that's entirely surprising. I mean, it's a break for

540
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,640
these guys. It's it's summer vacation, and it's I kind

541
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,240
of feel like they should just lean into that being

542
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,839
the vibe, like I just let it be like a

543
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:34,079
little bit goofy and weird.

544
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:39,759
Speaker 1: Like I don't think people like pressing, like like pressing

545
00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:42,200
full court is going to change how I feel about

546
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,480
the All Star Game, Like I don't think that that's

547
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,119
suddenly going to be like, oh wow, this is this

548
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,160
is definitely way better than it was.

549
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the last good one we had was

550
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,920
in twenty twenty where Kawhi was the MVP. It was

551
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,559
right after Kobe's death. I think it was in Chicago,

552
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,240
and it was the first one with the elam rules,

553
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,519
so there was a score that you had to hit,

554
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,920
so there was going to be a game winner and

555
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,000
it came down to the very end and that was

556
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:12,119
a really fun game. But that was, you know, six

557
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,359
years ago. Now, that was the last time. And then

558
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000
before that, every once in a while, Jordan's last game

559
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:20,000
was good. There was a time I think in two

560
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:21,880
thousand and two thousand and one where the East had

561
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,359
like a twenty point comeback. There have been some games

562
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,400
here and there that have been fun, but I do

563
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720
think a lot of it is just nostalgia and people,

564
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,839
you know, painting a prettier picture than it actually was

565
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,079
back in the day. Yes, they were more competitive. I

566
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,640
also have footage of a game from like nineteen ninety

567
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,880
where at the very beginning that Shrodman foul somebody, and

568
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,920
the announcers say, oh, looks like they might actually want

569
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,839
to play some defense this year in the All Star Game. Well,

570
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,680
why are they saying that if it was known for

571
00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:54,559
being more competitive back then. No, even back then they

572
00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:57,160
didn't play a lot of defense. So it's just what

573
00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:59,880
it is. I think we overly scrutinize a lot of

574
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:02,920
things that you know, it's just it's show fodder. It's

575
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,880
for talking heads to debate. I guess.

576
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:06,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

577
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: I think like All Star selection, I do think is important.

578
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,640
I think there should be some changes in the way

579
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,720
that the like how those votes are tallied and and

580
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:22,599
who ultimately gets there versus like just solely like versus

581
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,920
there being a lot of the fan vote and everything,

582
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,039
not that it isn't for the fans, but I think

583
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:30,960
like just having being able to have the All Star

584
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,519
thing on your resume. I mean, we know that it

585
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:36,240
affects contracts and everything else. So I do still think

586
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,000
that that is important, even if the game itself isn't

587
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:43,759
as important. I still think like the designation and the recognition.

588
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,559
I do think that there's something to that.

589
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: It would be nice if voters took things more seriously.

590
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,160
And part of it is so for the starters. It's

591
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,319
what a third fans, a third media, a third players.

592
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,000
So a couple of the players voted for Bronnie James,

593
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,680
like they don't take things seriously, they don't care enough,

594
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,839
and then you realize at the end of the career,

595
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,920
possibly it could have been just his dad voting for

596
00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:15,039
him and somebody else.

597
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: Uh lebron voter fraud, Pablo Tory investigate.

598
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: But all Star votes matter. I would think All NBA

599
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:28,480
is more significant, But it would be nice if people,

600
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,519
you know, took it a little bit more seriously, because

601
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:33,640
when you look at a guy's Wikipedia at the end

602
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,079
of his career and you're talking about someone's legacy, that's

603
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:38,000
something that gets brought up early on and it can

604
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:42,000
affect Hall of Fame status too, But we know there's

605
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:45,359
far more, you know, all Stars than just the twenty

606
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,160
four total, with how deep and how talented the league

607
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:50,599
is now, so there's always going to be snubs. That

608
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:57,839
stuff's going to happen should they expand to thirty. I mean,

609
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000
we ended up getting a twenty eight right now just

610
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,720
because all the injury is going on the replacement all

611
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:07,440
stars in there. So I don't know, it is what

612
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:09,759
it is. I don't usually don't like saying that, but

613
00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:13,480
I think we're maybe trying a little bit too hard

614
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,000
to correct it. And look, if it's more competitive on Sunday,

615
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,720
I'm all for it. That'd be great if the Slam

616
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:24,079
Dunk Contest ends up being very competitive and we see

617
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:26,119
some new dunks out there, even though the guys that

618
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,599
are competing aren't exactly the big names cool I am

619
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,400
interested probably most the three point Contest, yeah, because they

620
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,920
have some real guys with real names out there. Damian

621
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,799
Lillard's even participating, and I know some people don't like

622
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:40,640
that because he's taking a spot away from a guy

623
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,480
who's actually played this season, and I totally understand that,

624
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,200
but I'm also very intrigued to see a guy who's

625
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,480
coming off in Achilles that's only been shooting. Being this contest,

626
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:51,799
who is I think won it before?

627
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: The three point competition has weirdly become like the most

628
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,000
exciting part of All Star weekend.

629
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,599
Speaker 3: Do ball.

630
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: There needs to be more do balls in other in

631
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:04,599
other portions of the game.

632
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Mountain Dew four point ball, whatever it is. Yeah,

633
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:14,720
I'm good with that. But the All Star Game being

634
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,119
it's a round robin with three different teams, four games

635
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,039
total twelve minute quarters for you know, it's it's it's

636
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:25,160
four twelve minute quarters and four different games. Yeah. So

637
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:29,359
hopefully we do get the World team versus one of

638
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,319
the Stars or Stripes teams in the final, because maybe

639
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:35,519
that would get guys up for it a little bit

640
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:38,200
more just playing for their country. We'll see.

641
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,279
Speaker 1: I mean, the Olympics are going on. I mean great news. Uh.

642
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:47,240
In the chat no Eagle announcing the Rookie.

643
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: Game, Yeah, I texted Noah, I was like, could you

644
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,079
guys put the three point contest last please instead the

645
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,799
dunk contest Saturday night? I think he might be involved

646
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:04,880
with that too, But yeah, though Eagles, the young Goat

647
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,400
is all over it as he should be, as.

648
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: He should be. Who uh, who's the next Clipper to

649
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,640
get an All Star nod? Currently on the.

650
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: Roster looking towards future years here? Yeah, Garland?

651
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:24,319
Speaker 1: You think it's Garland? Mathroom doesn't make a jump.

652
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: He could. I just Garland's He's a two time All Star,

653
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:33,160
so he's got the pedigree. Yeah, what if? What if

654
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,839
things don't go well enough? In Matherverson on the team

655
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,279
after the season, the contract, you know, he wants too much.

656
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:41,799
I don't know. Garland's just the the the chalk bet,

657
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,319
the betting favorite.

658
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fair. Or Kobe I was gonna say,

659
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,160
what about Kobe Sanders though?

660
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: We shall see? Uh. Do we want to get to

661
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,480
some of the standings here at the all our game?

662
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,519
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, let's break it down. Where are we at?

663
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:06,480
Adam Clippers Slippers?

664
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:13,119
Speaker 3: Wait there? I thought there were ninth? What happened here?

665
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:14,079
The tenth?

666
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: Because yeah, we have an identical record to the Trailblazers.

667
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: Well, the Clippers have one less win than them and

668
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,559
one more loss. This is interesting. Portland's twenty seven and

669
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,880
twenty nine. They have a four to eight to two

670
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,840
win percentage. The Clippers are twenty six and twenty eight

671
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:38,000
a four to eight to one win percentage, So they're

672
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,639
just behind them, even though have they beaten them both

673
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,880
times this season. Now I feel like that might be true.

674
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:45,639
Speaker 1: I think so.

675
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,079
Speaker 3: Regardless, Clippers, this is it. You got work to do now.

676
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,760
Staying in the play in should not be a problem.

677
00:34:54,719 --> 00:35:00,199
Memphis tanking, Dallas taking Utah, obviously taking New Orleans. It's

678
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:02,360
just bad they don't have their first round pick this

679
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,000
season because they got what's his name queen in the

680
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:12,519
draft they trade with Atlanta. Sacramento bad tanking. Also, so

681
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:19,920
oh Yannix scores the first points stars game, there's the MVP,

682
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:25,199
there's your next All Star. Maybe. So, I do think

683
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:27,280
the Clippers are secure to getting the play in. But

684
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,440
like we talked about earlier, getting that seven to eight

685
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,400
matchup win, it be the seventh seed. You don't want

686
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,559
to be one eight, and then you end up taking

687
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:37,679
on Oklahoma City in the first round because the San

688
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,400
Antonio Spurs are still three games back of Okay. See,

689
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,440
even though they beat them three times, I don't think

690
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:45,159
they're going to be able to take the number one

691
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:47,960
spot from them. What you really don't want to see

692
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:50,880
is Denver get going the rest of this season and

693
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,760
they take the number two seed away from San Antonio,

694
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,119
because I think it would be more favorable if you

695
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:58,880
get in that two seven to face San Antonio with

696
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,000
their youth and inexperiences, even though it would still be

697
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,559
a really tough series and they'd be favored, you'd rather

698
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:04,800
see them than Denver, right.

699
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean absolutely, they don't have the reps and

700
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,519
you know us having some younger talent too. I do

701
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:15,400
think it's like an interesting I do think it's a

702
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,199
more interesting matchup versus a Denver team that kind of

703
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,719
has our number in the playoffs. How do you like

704
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,039
the chances if we do end up in that seven

705
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:29,320
to eight matchup. Let's say it's we got to take

706
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,360
on the Suns.

707
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:32,639
Speaker 1: One game.

708
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: Light work. The Suns in the playoff series a problem

709
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,159
for the Clippers. They've lost them three times in the playoffs,

710
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:42,679
unfortunately in their history.

711
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,079
Speaker 1: There's some aster risks in there.

712
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: I believe, No, you're right, you're right, But in a

713
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,079
one game play in I think they get the job

714
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:56,239
done against the Suns team because the Clippers, like they

715
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,239
put themselves in that hole starting six and twenty one.

716
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,320
But on PA. They're just a much more talented team.

717
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,280
And if you're telling me Darius Garland's going to be

718
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,239
back later this season, what you would expect.

719
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,079
Speaker 1: I am telling you that.

720
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: Well, I think they're the best then of Phoenix, Golden State,

721
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:16,039
Portland in that grouping right now in the play in easily.

722
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

723
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,079
Speaker 3: In fact, everybody else up top would be rooting for

724
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,480
the Clippers to lose in case they draw them in

725
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:27,519
a first round series. The Clippers would be that sneaky,

726
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,519
dangerous team nobody wants to see in a first round.

727
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: Who can't wait for the talking heads to hop on

728
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,480
that one.

729
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: That's usually when things go wrong for us. But yeah,

730
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:44,960
even like, okay, so they're currently you know, they're basically

731
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,800
tied with Portland. They are what two and a half

732
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:55,519
games back of the Golden State Warriors right now. Golden

733
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:59,039
State is Steph Curry playing in the All Star Game.

734
00:37:59,079 --> 00:38:02,679
Has Steph Curry been back? They obviously lost Jimmy Butler

735
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:05,440
for the season. They didn't make some huge trade move.

736
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,400
They brought in Chris DAPs and he unfortunately dealing with

737
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,960
the illness. I think the Clippers can chase them down

738
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,519
pot and a half games.

739
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: He's got pots.

740
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,079
Speaker 3: It's as long as it's sad. I love Kristaphs game,

741
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:22,760
and I actually liked that move for Atlanta. I thought

742
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,880
that would have been interesting. They still play Golden State

743
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,119
here two more times, including the last game of the season.

744
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:32,320
Once again, this time is set into it dough, un

745
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,320
like last year where they won that that nail bider

746
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:37,079
to play in to stay out of the play in

747
00:38:37,159 --> 00:38:40,519
against them. So Golden State is definitely a team to watch.

748
00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:43,079
Two and a half games up, chase them down to

749
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:44,039
get in that seven eight.

750
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean those are the most I mean,

751
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,360
the Suns could hit us skid, but I'm seeing from

752
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,559
where I'm at right now, the Warriors and Trailblazers being

753
00:38:56,559 --> 00:39:00,719
the most the most likely fallers if the Clippers are

754
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,880
to rise outside like into a better playing position.

755
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Phoenix also just got Devin Booker back. Now they're

756
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,920
currently oh they're five and a half games up, yeah

757
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,440
on the Clippers, but I still we've been waiting for

758
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,000
them to come back to the pack a little bit.

759
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:23,920
They did go five and five their last ten games

760
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,400
before the break. Uh, They've been missing Jalen Green throughout

761
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,199
most of the season. I'm not sure if that's necessarily

762
00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:35,000
the biggest negative, but Dylan Brooks has been holding it down.

763
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,679
Devin Booker came back right before the break. They have

764
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,159
a defensive identity. Now it's gonna be tough to get seventh.

765
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,760
It's really eighth where you just have to hop over

766
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,320
Portland and the Golden State Warriors. So therefore you'd be

767
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,280
on the road for that play in matchup for the

768
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,880
seven to eight likely against Phoenix, maybe is the most

769
00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:57,599
most likely scenario.

770
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: Right now, we're gonna get some hopeful take in the chat.

771
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,559
Ali Malik Lac says, I still think sixth, which.

772
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:10,519
Speaker 3: Uh, Phenix is five and a half games up on them.

773
00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:12,519
That's see a lot to make up.

774
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,119
Speaker 1: And then six is seven games away.

775
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Minnesota's thirty four and twenty two. And if you

776
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:26,280
look at strength of schedule, the Clippers, uh they're right now.

777
00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:33,239
Oohh okay, so wait a second, no, this is good.

778
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,280
They're twenty eighth in strength of schedule, or maining that

779
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,960
Slippers are the Clippers are now Portland's thirtieth, and Portland's

780
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,199
right there with them, And then you look at Golden

781
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,960
State they're sixteenth. So virtually everybody else is going to

782
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:51,679
have a tougher strength of schedule moving forward, including the Sons,

783
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,840
who have the ninth toughest strength of schedule. Minnesota actually

784
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,760
has the third toughest, so there is that going in

785
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,719
their favor at least.

786
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you what what standings are you watching closer

787
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:12,360
right now? Clippers play in playing position or Pacers draft

788
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:12,960
pick position.

789
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,559
Speaker 3: I'm watching the Clippers a little bit more closely, but

790
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,480
make no way.

791
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: You have two tabs.

792
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:28,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can walk into you gum here and Indiana

793
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:33,280
they ended up winning that game against the Knicks that

794
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:35,760
I did not expect to happen, and I was like, hey,

795
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,320
go Pacers there, and they just got fined what one

796
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,719
hundred grand? They didn't get the same fine that Utah got,

797
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:47,440
but they got fined for player violating player participation policy.

798
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:50,079
So they just won their last two games against the

799
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:54,119
Knicks in the nets before the All Star break. We

800
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:57,119
do want them to win. We do want them to

801
00:41:57,159 --> 00:42:00,920
win some not a crazy amount, but we do want

802
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,440
them to win. Winning a crazy amount would be crazy

803
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,239
because they're fifteen to forty on the season and two

804
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,320
bots hasn't played yet.

805
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,159
Speaker 2: Someone in the chat is asking, how do you stop tanking.

806
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:12,840
I'm just going to throw my hat in the ring.

807
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:17,400
The in season tournament should be for the teams that

808
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,840
are eliminated from the playoffs, and there's some sort of

809
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,280
incentive there in your draft pick, like not an outright

810
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:28,480
like who wins gets the highest pick, because I don't

811
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:31,079
I don't think that that's fair, but it you have

812
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:34,679
some sort of multiplier in your increase odds.

813
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,559
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I think it's I think this is a

814
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,800
very unique level of taking we're seeing currently because of

815
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,880
the upcoming draft class and just how things have gone

816
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,559
with some of these teams and protected picks like Utah

817
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:53,760
having a top eight protected pick, or else it goes

818
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,239
to OKAC or the protected pick now with Indiana with

819
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,239
their intentive is to lose more, or else it goes

820
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,960
to the Clippers. Like maybe we're making a little bit

821
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,199
too much out of Yes, it is wild seen tanking

822
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,280
before the All Star break. That's starting way too early.

823
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,599
If it's you know, mid March, late March, early April

824
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,199
whatever that the league's been dealing with that for a

825
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,599
long time. I just don't know what the owners are

826
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:21,519
going to sign off on doing. What's really what's realistic

827
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:24,119
when it comes to changing some of these rules to

828
00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:25,360
avoid taking, and.

829
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,159
Speaker 2: It doesn't always pan out in your favor, is the

830
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,760
other thing. I mean, it still sucks for the on

831
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:32,920
like for the on court product.

832
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:38,159
Speaker 3: But unintended consequences could happen if you try to, because

833
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:40,840
that's what happened with them flattening the odds in twenty nineteen.

834
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,639
They said, instead of the worst team having a twenty

835
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:47,079
five percent chance of gaining the first overall pick, we're

836
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:50,000
going to flatten the odds. So the top three worst

837
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,360
teams or the bottom three worst teams all of a

838
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,519
fourteen percent chance of getting the overall first pick. So

839
00:43:56,639 --> 00:43:59,440
now last year you get Dallas, who I think only

840
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,039
had the tenth worst record in the league, ending up

841
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:05,159
getting the first pick. San Antonio got second. The teams

842
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,760
that were the worst three teams in the league last year,

843
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,280
none of them got top three picks. Yeah, so then

844
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,280
they go, Okay, I guess we got to take again

845
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,400
this year because we didn't strike iron, we weren't able

846
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,440
to get our top pick, so we got to go

847
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:20,960
back in. Yeah.

848
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: I mean, and that's the process. Like if you if

849
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,840
it doesn't result in a top five draft pick, I mean,

850
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,239
unless it's a you really hit on some gold, or

851
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,440
it's like a particularly loaded class.

852
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's.

853
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:36,079
Speaker 2: It's it's very likely that you're going to be in

854
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:40,880
a similar position the next year. Yeah, I say remove

855
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,000
the aprons, make people spend more, make your team better

856
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,760
with money.

857
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: Better better for the Clippers that. Yeah, I don't know

858
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,320
if they're an easy solution for taking. We'll see Adam Silver.

859
00:44:56,639 --> 00:45:03,679
He'll be asked about that tomorrow too. Yeah. Yeah, do

860
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,760
you want to take a three, or make a three

861
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:06,639
or just take a three?

862
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,039
Speaker 1: I think he took it three.

863
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: But he didn't make it because he hasn't made one yet.

864
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:12,159
I think he's taken like two this season.

865
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:15,639
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can pull up this box star,

866
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,639
this box.

867
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:22,679
Speaker 3: Score like he is, he's out of the game right now,

868
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:28,599
he is capable. I pulled the audio earlier. Uh. I

869
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:31,400
put it that fall out of May because I stumbled

870
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,800
upon this when they drafted him. But I went back

871
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,840
to some of his Penn State interviews and the guy

872
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,599
asking the question says, a lot of your teammates say,

873
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:44,800
you're one of the best shooters on the team. You know,

874
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,880
how much do you work on that? Like he's he's

875
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,360
been working on shooting for a long time.

876
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: Oh he made one. He's one for two from three.

877
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,119
Speaker 3: Oh he made one. Yeah, he should definitely show it

878
00:45:57,159 --> 00:45:59,840
off in this game to get the coaches to give

879
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:03,719
the green light because he hasn't made one. But I

880
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,719
don't know many. How many he's attempted so far this season.

881
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:12,119
I thought he attempted. He's attempted at least one. Yeah,

882
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,599
oh of two O three in the regular season.

883
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: X Mango Project keeps keeps pitching an idea that I

884
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,119
like about the tanking issue, which is that teams should

885
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,519
vote on the top eight because naturally the teams will

886
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:31,960
vote for the worst teams to get the top pick.

887
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,039
Speaker 1: But I still think that could go awry.

888
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,159
Speaker 3: They'll vote for the worst teams to get the top pick,

889
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:43,719
interesting because they don't want they don't want, okay, see

890
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,880
you to get it. They don't want any of the

891
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,559
best team to get it. As who what you're saying?

892
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,079
Speaker 2: Yeah again, I think it just needs to be more

893
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:53,519
more odds based than an outright like that, this is

894
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:57,079
your number, like the NFL.

895
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's too monumental. It's just five guys on

896
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,199
the court. One superstar makes such a big difference in

897
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,079
the NBA.

898
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

899
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna We're gonna have.

900
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: To sleep on this one. We're gonna have to think

901
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:13,599
about this more.

902
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,639
Speaker 3: We'll talk to them silber tomorrow.

903
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: Guys, are you doing Are you doing any all star stuff?

904
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,320
Are you gonna be over it? Into it at all?

905
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,199
Speaker 3: No?

906
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: Uh?

907
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,039
Speaker 1: Not one of the two hundred bust in by the NBA. Huh.

908
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:30,159
Speaker 3: The influencers, Yeah, I can't even hate. If I had

909
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:32,079
a business, I'd be like, let's just get a bunch

910
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:34,000
of influencers. I have a bunch of followers. That's a

911
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:35,440
great idea for advertising.

912
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, Why.

913
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:41,039
Speaker 3: Would you not do that? I know it's popular. I

914
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:45,719
hate all these things label people, influencers and stuff, but hey,

915
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:47,800
that's marketing in twenty twenty six.

916
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: Uh do you have any part any partying thoughts on

917
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,440
this rest break for the Clippers? Where their head should

918
00:47:55,519 --> 00:47:56,960
space should be out? What do you want to see

919
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,639
guys doing during this week?

920
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:03,159
Speaker 3: I want to see Kawhi not shaking out his hand

921
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,960
on Sunday. I hope he's got some relief after having

922
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,360
a few days off and the hand issue isn't going

923
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,320
to be a problem moving forward. I just want to

924
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,960
make sure, you know, guys, stay with that same level

925
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:22,400
intensity coming out of the break, because if you can

926
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,320
make big trade moves like the Clippers did to they

927
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,559
may make two bigger trade moves than they did and

928
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:31,480
they still went three and one post trade deadline. This

929
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:34,480
team once again has not quit. They didn't quit when

930
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,880
they were six and twenty one. They didn't quit after

931
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,519
the trade deadline. They didn't quit down fifteen the last

932
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:41,559
game before the All Star Break. They've had all these

933
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:44,639
opportunities to give in and it hasn't happened yet. So

934
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:46,599
they just got to keep holding on to that rope.

935
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, hold on to the rope. Over this

936
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:52,199
All Star break, I want to see Garland and a

937
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,239
Rascal Scooter. I think that that would be good.

938
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,159
Speaker 2: Just just just rest up there, buddy, put up some

939
00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:00,360
shots from the raw school.

940
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:04,679
Speaker 1: I want to see mathin. Just relax and get a

941
00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:08,800
good breakfast. Yeah.

942
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

943
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:12,639
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm ready to get away from the.

944
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: Fake basketball and get back in, especially with the note

945
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,360
that we ended on in that Rockets win. But I

946
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,039
think that'll about do it for the stream. Do you

947
00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:23,199
have any did you have any other parting thoughts? Do

948
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,039
you do you want to leave the folks with something positive?

949
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it could be him. I'm dangerously high on

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Yonick because I've been saying this summer, dangerously high on Yonick,

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the real drug. You just have another dunk? Yeah, another throwdown.

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Not a lot of defense being played in the Rising

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Stars either here. I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 2: Oh all right, we gotta we got another super chat

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come through, so you know we have to answer those

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Stop forty two wants to know do you think Chris

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Paul is going to start a podcast after announcing your retirement?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Or no?

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Speaker 1: I don't know who would want to be a guest.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know if CP three is that type.

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I don't know. Is he big social media guy? Has

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he ever been that? No? I don't think so does

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the commercials? I guess damn Yani put his head on

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the rim. Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen. But

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congrats CP three. Incredible career, all time great clipper. Wish

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things ended better this season. Unfortunately it's tough.

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Speaker 1: We'll still probably retire the jersey though, right, we.

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Speaker 3: Got to, I say, retire his and Blake same night

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put him up in the raptors into it, don't.

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Speaker 1: Does he show up?

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Speaker 3: Come on now?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Uh well that will do it for this stream. Thank

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you everybody for tuning in. We usually do these every

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Friday around five thirty pm. You can catch those over

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on YouTube dot com. That's at Clippers podcast. You can

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also listen to this wherever you listen to podcasts. If

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you happen to listen over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify,

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go ahead leave a little rating or review, loving all

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the yonic love in the chat. But that'll do it

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for us. We are clips and dip until next time.

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As our unavoidably detained co host always says, let's go

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