1 00:00:17,679 --> 00:00:20,559 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,160 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, senior Elections correspondent at The 3 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,920 Federalist and your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge. 4 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,119 As always, you can email the show at radio at 5 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,399 the Federalist dot com, follow us on x at FDR LST, 6 00:00:37,079 --> 00:00:39,840 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and 7 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,320 of course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:43,759 --> 00:00:49,000 Our guest today is legendary polster John McLaughlin, Trump's polster. 9 00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:52,880 He's CEO and partner with the New York based McLaughlin 10 00:00:53,079 --> 00:00:57,359 and Associates. Let's take a look at the latest numbers 11 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,359 and the state of play moving into the midterms, and 12 00:01:01,399 --> 00:01:05,480 there's no better polster to talk to about that than 13 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:08,359 John McLaughlin. Good afternoon, sir, Thank you so much for 14 00:01:08,439 --> 00:01:11,079 joining us on this edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. 15 00:01:11,599 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: Matt, great to be with you again. 16 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,359 Speaker 1: Well, it's been a while since we chatted, and boy, 17 00:01:16,799 --> 00:01:21,840 some things have happened since then. Over the last eight 18 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,000 months or so, it's kind of been like drinking from 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,840 a fire house for those in the reporting business, and 20 00:01:27,879 --> 00:01:31,560 I'm sure those in the polling business too. Let's start 21 00:01:31,599 --> 00:01:35,239 with the numbers. You have some very interesting numbers in 22 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,560 your latest poll, and I want to start where Americans 23 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,040 feel about where we stand. At least the latest numbers 24 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:48,719 in the McLaughlan Associate's poll. I find this interesting. Forty 25 00:01:48,799 --> 00:01:52,280 nine percent say the country is on the wrong track, 26 00:01:52,719 --> 00:01:54,920 forty four percent say the country is heading in the 27 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,680 right direction. But then you have fifty two percent approving 28 00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:02,799 of Trump and Is policies. There's seems to be a 29 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,480 disconnect there. Possibly, I don't know. 30 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: Can you explain, well, it's a lag because by the way, 31 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,199 as far as our right direction number, that's the best 32 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,680 we've had since, you know, since since right after COVID, 33 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,960 when we were coming out of COVID, but after four 34 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:19,599 years of Biden, when it turned upside down and people 35 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,120 thought the country was had on the wrong track, which 36 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,479 enabled the Trump campaign to win in President Trump to 37 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,159 get re elected again or elected again maybe for the 38 00:02:29,199 --> 00:02:33,960 third time, but four years we survived four years of 39 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,840 Joe Biden. By the way, Biden is a forty approved 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,919 and fifty seven disapprove in the News currevey and President 41 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,199 Trump's fifty two to forty five job approval and this 42 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,080 is space and it's posted. We posted on our website, 43 00:02:48,159 --> 00:02:50,719 McLaughlan online dot com posted it this week, a survey 44 00:02:50,759 --> 00:02:54,039 that was completed last week just before the Labor Day weekend. 45 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,159 People like his policies, and we generally ask the like 46 00:03:00,159 --> 00:03:03,520 his policies or his personality like we did in the campaign, 47 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,000 because we use his policies to raise their favorable views 48 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:12,000 of him. And it's not positive and he's moving forward, 49 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:14,520 and it's not as high as it was on election 50 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,319 day because we had the whole campaign moving then and 51 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,039 we had whether it was Joe Biden or Campbell Harris 52 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:24,800 to pivot against. You know, we're now in charge, and 53 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,039 that forty four percent right direction is probably the highest 54 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,199 that we've had since before COVID. And you've also got 55 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,800 fifty eight percent saying the economy is not in recession, 56 00:03:34,919 --> 00:03:38,919 the economy is the top issue with inflation, and that's 57 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,719 the highest it's been since before COVID. And you got 58 00:03:41,719 --> 00:03:44,479 forty one percent saying the economy is getting better, not worse, 59 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,479 and again that's the highest we've had since coming out 60 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:54,919 of COVID. So organically, people's own situations, in spite of 61 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,400 what they see here on the left of center media, 62 00:03:58,879 --> 00:04:04,479 the legacy media. Those people that certainly that you know, 63 00:04:05,039 --> 00:04:09,120 listen to conservative told me like your Federalists podcast here 64 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:13,479 or you know Newsmax or seeing it Fox News, not 65 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,920 seeing n They're more optimistic because again the facts, but 66 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:21,600 people in their own daily lives are seeing inflation being 67 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,600 kept in check, some prices going down. They feel that. 68 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,519 By the way, we had a survey for the Job 69 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:34,000 Creators Network where we asked them about to Trump tax 70 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,199 cuts and when you told them about provisions, they supported 71 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,079 like sixty eight twenty and they support the President's tax 72 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,959 cuts fifty four to thirty seven. But also small business 73 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,319 owners and that's four hundred four hundred small business owners 74 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:51,720 and employers that we do for the Job Greiders Network. 75 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,240 They think things are getting better. So things are organically 76 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,240 getting better in the country at the grassroots level. It's 77 00:04:59,439 --> 00:05:03,079 and it's part relating because you know, after four years 78 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:08,920 of Biden, inflation, open borders, endless wars going on between 79 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,079 you know, Ukraine and Russia, and with the Gaza terrorist 80 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,480 attacks from Hamas, et cetera, people are feeling America is 81 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,120 getting strong again, and America is getting more secure and 82 00:05:20,199 --> 00:05:23,120 crime is going down, the borders are secure. People are 83 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,800 starting to feel better about things. And you know, for 84 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,120 President Trump, he hasn't even been in office a year. 85 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:35,240 It's been like seven seven months, and and and people 86 00:05:35,319 --> 00:05:37,720 are people are starting to feel better. And that's after 87 00:05:37,759 --> 00:05:39,720 four years of Biden and Harris. That's a good thing. 88 00:05:40,079 --> 00:05:44,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. I mean, the numbers are where they 89 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,160 are at right now. I suspect and wanted to get 90 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:51,639 your take on this. My hunch is that they could 91 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:57,240 be and probably are better, would be better if we 92 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:02,040 had an honest corporate media. We do not how much 93 00:06:02,079 --> 00:06:06,720 of the impact of just the daily onslaught. You've seen 94 00:06:06,759 --> 00:06:09,519 it before. I know, the good folks at NewsBusters are 95 00:06:09,959 --> 00:06:14,120 fabulous at covering. Yes, the you know, just the absolute 96 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,439 pounding of negative coverage on the Trump administration, the president 97 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:22,680 in general, you know, and it's it's it would be 98 00:06:22,879 --> 00:06:26,879 laughable if it wasn't. Really they want to talk about 99 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:32,959 threats to democracy. This sort of you know, accomplice media 100 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,519 is an absolute threat to democracy. How much do you 101 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:40,800 think that's having an impact on the numbers that you're seeing. 102 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,639 Speaker 2: It's very significant. We wrote about it last month and 103 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,879 we put it up on our website. But thirty seven 104 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,879 percent of these likely voters for the midterms watch right 105 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:53,160 of center media whether or box News, Newsmax, Box Business, 106 00:06:55,079 --> 00:07:00,519 you know, and and thirty six watching left of center news, 107 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:07,279 whether it's CNNMS NOW, Bloomberg, CNBC, et cetera, and the other. 108 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,600 By the way, the other thirty percent don't watch any 109 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:16,519 that they want to be entertained. But knowing that it's 110 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,279 significant because Trump's job approval in the right of center 111 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,920 media is seventy four to twenty two, well, he's a 112 00:07:23,959 --> 00:07:26,480 net negative with the left of center media forty one 113 00:07:26,519 --> 00:07:29,959 to fifty six. And if they don't watch any news 114 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,399 and they're in that entertainment cell, it's forty four to 115 00:07:32,439 --> 00:07:36,079 forty nine. So we're slightly in net negative. But the 116 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,399 writer of center media gets it and they're getting good facts, 117 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,800 and it's going to affect the midterm votes because in 118 00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:47,480 this survey you saw that the generic ballot for Republicans 119 00:07:47,519 --> 00:07:50,079 we were head forty seven to forty five. So it's close. 120 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,720 We're still under fifty, but it's going to help Republicans 121 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:56,639 get re elected. But if they're in the left of 122 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,079 center echo chamber, the Democrats will winning two to one 123 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,879 sixty one thirty. If they're in the right of center 124 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,160 echo chamber, we're winning seventy two to nineteen. Keeping that 125 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,879 you know, in effect the generic goes Republican, and if 126 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,439 they're in that entertainment group, which is not getting left 127 00:08:15,519 --> 00:08:18,839 or right news, it's thirty eight to forty six. So 128 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,120 unlike the two thousand and two midterms, where we kind 129 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,240 of bucked history and had a good economy. Bush tax 130 00:08:29,279 --> 00:08:32,559 cuts were working, the economy was growing, there was a 131 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,480 sense of, you know, America's rebounding from the nine to 132 00:08:36,519 --> 00:08:42,159 eleven attack, and you know, we picked up two Senate 133 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,639 seats and eight House seats then. And we had a 134 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,879 plan that we targeted Bush two thousand voters and brought 135 00:08:49,919 --> 00:08:54,080 them out in the two thousand and two midterms, and 136 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,840 we had certain techniques and certain messages to get to 137 00:08:56,879 --> 00:09:01,200 those voters, and it worked up two sentence seats, picked 138 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:05,320 up eight House seats, and George W. Bush went on 139 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,559 to re election in two thousand and four. We were 140 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,799 working for then Speaker Hassert, the chairman of the n RCC, 141 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:18,080 Tom Davis, the RNC chair Jim Gilmour, and then the 142 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:21,879 Bush campaign in two thousand and four, So it can 143 00:09:21,919 --> 00:09:25,799 be done, but we've got a lot of work ahead 144 00:09:25,799 --> 00:09:28,720 of us to do. I mean, we were fortunate the 145 00:09:28,799 --> 00:09:33,840 President Trump's policies are working. He's secured the border, he's 146 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:38,480 reducing crime in America, he's you know, doing peace deals. 147 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,279 Forget about the UN. I think they ought to just 148 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:43,960 cancel the United Nations General Assembly so they don't mess 149 00:09:44,039 --> 00:09:47,039 up traffic in New York. They should just go to 150 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,919 the Trump White House and he'll do a peace deal, 151 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,600 whether it's India, Pakistan, whether it's you know, whether it's 152 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,679 Russia and Ukraine, whether it's you know, making peace in Gaza. 153 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,080 I mean, get the hostages back, the Israeli hostages that 154 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,360 the Hamas Terras have been holding. I mean, Armenia and 155 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,159 Azerbrajahine did a peace deal with the Trump White House. 156 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,519 We should just let Donald Trump do the peace deals 157 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,639 and save ourselves the money that we're wasting the UN, 158 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,360 and you know, let him be the peace president. 159 00:10:22,639 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: Or at least put the International House of Pancakes in 160 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,799 charge where the UN is in charge. I think I 161 00:10:28,799 --> 00:10:31,039 think that would go a long way in making us 162 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,000 feel a lot better, at least better fed, that's for sure. 163 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,200 You know, you talk about the issues and the policies 164 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,080 that are working. You can tell that one of the 165 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:47,240 biggest concerns that Americans faced in twenty twenty four. You 166 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:51,519 can tell that the policies are working because one of 167 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:56,720 the biggest concerns was border security. The border immigration. Now 168 00:10:56,759 --> 00:11:00,799 that's still a concern at six percent, but that is 169 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,639 significantly lower than it was, you know, going into the 170 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:08,720 twenty four election. And that's because when Trump got into office, 171 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:12,080 he dealt with that immediately. In America knows. 172 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:13,879 Speaker 2: That, and it was easy to deal with. I mean, 173 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,120 all he had to do was in frosional laws. And 174 00:11:16,159 --> 00:11:18,960 by the way, he had a mandate because seventy five 175 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,360 percent of all voters support supporting criminal legal immigrants. Only 176 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,919 the Democrat Party members of Congress if they were keeping 177 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,600 criminal legal immigrants in the United States out of touch 178 00:11:32,159 --> 00:11:36,039 as yes. And you know, next year has to be 179 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,879 a contrast election because every Democrat in the House and 180 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,679 Senate voted against its cuts that are saving the average 181 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,840 person money, reviving the economy, helping us grow again, and 182 00:11:49,919 --> 00:11:52,919 instead they voted for what would have been the largest 183 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,120 tax increase in the history of the United States, would 184 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,519 have been a four point five trillion dollar tax increase. 185 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,919 So instead of the average person and getting two thousand 186 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,080 dollars more as a benefit from lower taxes, which they'll 187 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,399 see on their you know, tax taxes next year for 188 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:10,399 working Americans. We're talking about the no tax on tips, 189 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:14,000 no tax on overtime, no tax on social security. Working 190 00:12:14,039 --> 00:12:17,080 Americans are going to get a benefit next year. The 191 00:12:17,159 --> 00:12:20,360 Democrats would have had tax increases that would have gone 192 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,240 up two thousand dollars more for every working taxpayer. And 193 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:29,200 you know, so it's going to be a clear contrast 194 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:32,120 next year that we have to remind these voters. You know, 195 00:12:32,279 --> 00:12:34,519 the Democrats are so out of touch. Whether it's the 196 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,960 cultural issues having met in girls locker rooms and bathrooms, 197 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,120 whether it's having illegal immigrants on our streets committing primes, 198 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:46,159 whether it's taking more money from you. I mean, the 199 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,879 Democrats are really out of touch. 200 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:53,639 Speaker 3: Are more people learning how to gain the system? 201 00:12:53,759 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 4: The watched Out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 202 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,440 Every day, Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and 203 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,480 the economy and how it. 204 00:13:00,399 --> 00:13:03,639 Speaker 3: Affects your wallet. The Bureau of Labor Statistics reveal one 205 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,039 point one million Americans have become disabled in the last 206 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,679 three months over two hundred thousand alone in July. Is 207 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,399 America really is disabled? 208 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: As the data shows, whether it's happening in DC or 209 00:13:14,759 --> 00:13:16,679 down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. 210 00:13:16,759 --> 00:13:17,279 Speaker 1: Be informed. 211 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: Check out the Watchdout on Wall Street podcast with Chris 212 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,039 Markowski on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. 213 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: But no doubt about it. And so a contrast election 214 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:31,679 could be too, certainly should be to the benefit of 215 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:37,039 conservatives Republicans in this country to President Trump's agenda. But 216 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,399 there's no Trump on the ballot, and that always is 217 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,879 a problem, you know. And I have seen this play out, 218 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,120 for instance, five months barely five months after the twenty 219 00:13:52,159 --> 00:13:56,679 four election, at a Wisconsin state Supreme Court election, you know, 220 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,879 And that was seen somewhat and I think in a 221 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,799 smaller universe as kind of a first test of where 222 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,840 things stand. You know, It's an election held in April, 223 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,720 so it doesn't get the same kind of stuff. But 224 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,759 you did not have a lot of conservatives, as particularly 225 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,320 low propensity voters who come out when Trump is on 226 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,120 the ballot. They didn't come out for a critical Supreme 227 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:28,000 Court election, which ultimately meant that leftist will be in 228 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,799 power of the Wisconsin Supreme Court, a swing state for 229 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,519 several years. So where do you see twenty six going 230 00:14:36,559 --> 00:14:40,399 based on these numbers and the issues of the day. 231 00:14:40,519 --> 00:14:42,519 Speaker 2: By the way, you bring up a very important point. 232 00:14:42,559 --> 00:14:45,360 I was, you know, I really missed the Trump campaign. 233 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,080 I mean, we have very talented people. Susie Walla's the 234 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,799 manager with co manager with Chris Losovita. You know, during 235 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,440 the primary, we were firing up people. Jason Miller. We 236 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,240 when you think about it, I mean, Joe Biden was 237 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,440 trying to put us in jail, was trying to drop 238 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:07,240 us off the ballot. You know, they were, they were. 239 00:15:07,279 --> 00:15:10,399 I mean, it was just unbelievable the persecution that Donald 240 00:15:10,399 --> 00:15:12,440 Trump had to face in that election that you and 241 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:13,679 I talked about multiple times. 242 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:16,759 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you folks had a few obstacles, that's for sure. 243 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,879 Speaker 2: And certainly they were They went after members of the campaign, 244 00:15:19,879 --> 00:15:23,919 they went after they went after average people. They were 245 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,879 ruthless and uh, you know, and American people can see 246 00:15:27,879 --> 00:15:30,639 that now. But but so I missed that campaign. But 247 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,480 you know, it's your point about Trump voters getting fat, dumb, 248 00:15:34,519 --> 00:15:39,639 and happy and complacent. Absolutely in Wisconsin on April first, 249 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,080 Donald Trump last November got one point seven million votes. 250 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,799 In Wisconsin, the conservative candidate for judge that's going to 251 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,320 affect the next election, going to affect the daily lives 252 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,799 of people only got a million votes. Seven hundred thousand 253 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,799 Trump voters stayed home. And you saw it in the 254 00:15:56,879 --> 00:16:00,480 congressionals in Florida. Though the Republicans won those congression races 255 00:16:00,519 --> 00:16:05,519 by about twenty points in Florida one, Florida six, that 256 00:16:05,679 --> 00:16:07,879 was less than the two thirds of the vote. That 257 00:16:08,679 --> 00:16:12,360 maybe over one hundred thousand Trump voters didn't vote, no 258 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,360 specials and you know, and granted the Republican has won 259 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,279 by twenty points, but they didn't win by the two 260 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,279 to one margins they had unless November. So so Trump 261 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,120 voters need to get a really important message, need to 262 00:16:27,159 --> 00:16:30,519 be identified, get really important messages, and be made to 263 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:33,639 go out and vote, because that's what we did in 264 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:38,639 two thousand and two to win the midterms. Those years 265 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,600 and next year's midterms are going to be even more 266 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:45,120 critical to the future of this country. I mean, when 267 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:48,120 you think about the issues that we face, and how 268 00:16:48,679 --> 00:16:54,480 deranged the Democrat Party has become, and how derange the 269 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,759 you know, the anti Trump media has become, and they've 270 00:16:56,759 --> 00:17:00,279 lost a lot of credibility just I mean, MSNBC has 271 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,759 changed its name to ms NOW and NBC doesn't want 272 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:08,920 anything to do with them anymore. Their ratings have just plummeted, 273 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,000 and that should. 274 00:17:10,759 --> 00:17:14,799 Speaker 1: Help, of course the name change. You know, we saw 275 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:17,440 how effective that was for cracker Barrel, so that should 276 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,000 be good for whatever MS is deciding it wants to 277 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,960 identify as these days. 278 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're going to have to go out and 279 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:29,599 defend what we want again. You know, just because we 280 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,920 won the presidential race and we kept the House and 281 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,319 the Senate by thin margins, we have to go out 282 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,680 and win again because you know, they just democracy, it 283 00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:43,759 just requires it that we if you want to have 284 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,480 voter id because the thirty five states that President trumb Wong, 285 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,480 we've got voter idea in those states, Georgia, et cetera, 286 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,160 you have to go out and win elections because you know, 287 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,880 it's it's it's one of those things where freedom, you know, 288 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:02,400 requires us to be vigil in every election and defend 289 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,519 our democracy and our rights. And you know, now you're 290 00:18:05,519 --> 00:18:08,480 finding out the Democrats say they're running on democracy, but 291 00:18:08,519 --> 00:18:11,480 now we're finding out that you know, people like John 292 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:14,720 Brennan and Clapper at the CIA and the D and 293 00:18:14,759 --> 00:18:20,160 I they were conspiring to undermine President Trump even before 294 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,200 he took office. Tulca Gabbert has put out lots of 295 00:18:23,279 --> 00:18:27,880 documents that aren't getting you know, getting exposure in the 296 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,519 mainstream media, but you know, we've put out They put 297 00:18:31,519 --> 00:18:36,119 out these documents that basically they were manufacturing the Russian 298 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,240 collusion story that you know, people want to pull the 299 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:43,400 surprises on that were totally fake, didn't happen, and they 300 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,279 were told to manufacture to delegitimize. I legitimately elected Donald 301 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:50,839 Trump back in twenty sixteen, going into the inaugural in 302 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,759 twenty seventeen, and we can never let that happen again. 303 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:56,119 I mean, those of us were old enough to remember Watergate, 304 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,359 you know, like by the way, Donald Trump went to 305 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,880 Fordham University for the first two years of college before 306 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:08,400 we went to Penn and Fordham University when I was 307 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:14,119 attending in the seventies, had major ethics symposium because John 308 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,839 Mitchell went there and g. Gordon Liddy went there and 309 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,720 there was you know, concerns about Watergate and the post Watergate, 310 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,799 you know, lessons that had to be learned. Well, John 311 00:19:24,839 --> 00:19:28,400 Brannan went to Fordham University when I was there, and 312 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,640 it's like they just didn't learn anything, and then here 313 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,759 they are. You know, we were finding out that they 314 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:38,119 were the ones actually undermining democracy, and now they're trying 315 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,960 to do it again with this redistricting. I mean, Kathy 316 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,480 Olkle in New York State redistricted last year because she 317 00:19:44,519 --> 00:19:46,559 didn't like the court ruling in two thousand and two 318 00:19:46,559 --> 00:19:50,200 said they were Gerremanic in the elections and Republicans won 319 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,519 eleven seats from the lines of judge troop. She redrew them. 320 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:55,799 Last year, we lost four of those seats that we'd 321 00:19:55,839 --> 00:20:01,480 won the previous year simply because they jiggered the state 322 00:20:01,559 --> 00:20:04,839 courts and they you know, they could and they wouldn't. 323 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,279 They did it. Now they don't like Republicans doing it, 324 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:10,599 but it's exactly what they did to try to undermine 325 00:20:10,599 --> 00:20:12,640 our majority in the House last year. 326 00:20:12,759 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: Well, John, it's got to tell you something when you 327 00:20:15,519 --> 00:20:23,920 have Democrats moaning and complaining about Texas redistricting, you know, 328 00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:28,880 mid mid decade, and they flee to get out of 329 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,559 a vote. Where to the most jerry mastered states in 330 00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:38,960 the country. It's certainly Illinois is not your example of 331 00:20:40,279 --> 00:20:43,440 fair maps, as they like to say it, and obviously 332 00:20:43,559 --> 00:20:46,839 to the victor go the spoils. But the Democrats have 333 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,079 been jerry mandering for a very long time. And I 334 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,880 think all of this that you're talking about gets back to, 335 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,160 you know, with Brennan and with Clapper and Kney and 336 00:20:58,279 --> 00:21:06,559 the deep State pushing out this absolutely reprehensible, politically driven 337 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,799 and I think the word soft coup is not overstated 338 00:21:11,839 --> 00:21:17,000 at all. But they pushed out this phony Russian assessment, 339 00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:23,519 this intelligence community assessment that was, you know, the predicate 340 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,799 for the Russia collusion hoax. And if we had an 341 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:34,000 honest media, the people of the United States, the significantly 342 00:21:34,079 --> 00:21:37,519 more would be would be up in arms, but we don't, 343 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,960 and so that is one of the big hurdles as 344 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,519 you look forward to the next couple of elections, the 345 00:21:43,559 --> 00:21:47,960 midterm and twenty twenty eight, that's going to you know, 346 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,039 still play a significant role. Our guest today is legendary 347 00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:58,599 pollster John McLaughlin, drums Bolster, CEO and partner with New 348 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,079 York based McLaughlin and Associates. They have a very interesting 349 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,599 deep dive poll that just came out a few days ago, 350 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:12,079 and it is revealing on many fronts. Let's take a 351 00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:15,920 look at twenty twenty eight if we could. It seems 352 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:24,079 surprisingly not surprisingly at the same time, but Kamala Harris 353 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:30,720 has a forty eight percent favorable rating. Forty nine percent 354 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,480 do not have a favorable rating of Kamala Harris, and 355 00:22:35,559 --> 00:22:41,359 she seems to be still even after a very significant 356 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,039 loss in November, seems to be the front runner so 357 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,599 far according to your poll. What's going on there? 358 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,319 Speaker 2: Well for the demcrat by the way, nationally that's forty 359 00:22:50,319 --> 00:22:52,200 eight to forty nine feral time fer Well, that's an 360 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,160 improvement for because we certainly, yeah, in the campaign last year, 361 00:22:58,279 --> 00:23:03,960 certainly on election day was she was not quite that popular. 362 00:23:04,279 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: Now that's why I'm that's why I'm really surprised here 363 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,279 based on what the election results were, Based on who 364 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,319 Kamala Harris is, I would have thought that she would 365 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,839 be well underwater. I mean, this is it's kind of 366 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,400 startling to me. But the what's the X explanation behind 367 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:24,680 it all? 368 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,079 Speaker 2: Well, the Democrats still like her eighty six to eleven, 369 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,440 Independence are split, Liberals like her seventy three twenty three, 370 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,160 but she's she was kind of the good loser and 371 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,000 kind of you know, it's Joe Biden that they don't like. 372 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,599 Joe Biden's a forty fable, sixty seven unbearable, so they 373 00:23:39,599 --> 00:23:41,960 hold he was more culpable. There was there was a 374 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,400 reason he stepped down. But when you look at the 375 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:50,839 actual Democrat primary, the one who's moving is Newsom, Aham Newsom, 376 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,200 because Newsom in the last month and by the way 377 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,640 he's you know, he's he's his favorables where he's thirty 378 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:05,079 two Fairble, thirty nine unfavorable nationwide, so Democrats are less 379 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,160 favorable to him, but he's at fifty eight and thirteen, 380 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,519 so he's got some potential there. Republicans don't like him. 381 00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:14,599 He's eleven faruell sixty four unfavable, and an independancy split 382 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,400 but thirty one farerual thirty seven unfairule and on the 383 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,000 West coast he's a net posit of forty seven. 384 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: Thirty six amazing mostly California, I am amazing. 385 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: He's the one moving. Some people have said AOC might 386 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,119 be the one to move, but AOC are favorables to 387 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,960 thirty percent favorable, forty four unfavorable. Chuck Schumer is a 388 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,160 twenty seven favorable forty four, unfairable. 389 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: We love him as a leader, and thanks again New York. 390 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but when you ask those voters who and 391 00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:48,400 again this is a thousand likely voters across the country. 392 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,559 But then we ask them if they think they're going 393 00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:53,319 to vote in the Democrat primer, which includes some independence 394 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:59,160 and certainly Democrats. Harris was at twenty five last month, 395 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,519 and that's a drop from December last year, where she 396 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,759 was at thirty five. She's now down to twenty seven. 397 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,519 Newsom's gone from seven in December last year to eighteen. 398 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,359 Now he's gone from nine to eighteen in this month. 399 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,200 And I think he's gotten a lot of partisan press 400 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,000 because he's going to redistrict in California. I used to 401 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:24,440 work for Ronald Schwarzenegger. Arnold took it out of jeremyandering, 402 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,519 out of the hands of politicians, created an independent commission, 403 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,519 which hasn't gone well for Bubblicans by the way. Sure, 404 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,559 but now you know Newsom's is just to one total 405 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,039 partisan where he's trying to pick up the you know, 406 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,400 those voters who don't like Donald Trump with disaprove of 407 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,079 the job he's doing. And Buddha Judge is at nine, 408 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,720 and AOC's at four, and the rest are in three 409 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:52,799 or less. And Stephen A. Smith gets won. 410 00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: I saw that right, Yeah, that machine is picking up. 411 00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 2: Huh, well he peaked. He peaked at two at some 412 00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:03,200 point back in January. But the uh uh but football 413 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:05,480 season is coming up, so he may get higher. So 414 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,480 but but but Newsom, do you think do you. 415 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: Think Buddha judge that beard knocked him down or up? 416 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: I think he just you know, he was he was 417 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:17,519 kind of known, and you know, he ran for president. 418 00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:20,880 He was like out there. But he's he's I think 419 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,319 he's vulnerable to people like Newsom and and AOC. Who 420 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,759 but AOC went down and Newsom seems to be the 421 00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:29,799 one who picked up because he was getting the most deranged. 422 00:26:29,839 --> 00:26:34,640 I mean, look, you know, thanks to Gavin Newsom. Uh, 423 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,440 California is you know, still you know, attracting illegal immigrants. 424 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,680 But Trumps closed the border. But when you think about 425 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,440 a crime was up, the city nearly burned down in 426 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:53,480 Los Angeles. I mean it's just if you're an anti Trump, 427 00:26:53,559 --> 00:27:00,359 deranged democrat. California's high taxes, open borders. Uh, you know, 428 00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:05,079 wildfires that have almost caused like I said, Los Angeles 429 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,920 to burn down. You're attracted to that kind of derangement. 430 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,799 Speaker 1: That's a recipe for success to the average Trump deranged Democrat, 431 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,960 which is fascinating that we're at that point in American history. 432 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and could create an opportunity for JD. Vance or 433 00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:26,920 some other Republican to win the twenty eight elections, but 434 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,599 that's a long way off. We've got to get through 435 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,960 twenty twenty six and keep our majorities in the House 436 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:38,839 and the Senate. Otherwise, you know, twenty the bamporters when 437 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,440 we lost in twenty eighteen, when they didn't pass the 438 00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:44,799 tax cuts until twenty seventeen, and you didn't have the 439 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,960 economic growth that we needed until twenty nineteen going into 440 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,640 twenty twenty, before the COVID pandemic, when we had that 441 00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:55,920 kind of endemic. There was one point where I was 442 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,319 I had been in Europe, and I called back. I 443 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,480 was delivering polls in Europe to clients. Called back for 444 00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:05,799 a meeting at the White House. The campaign. We walked in, 445 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,119 Jared Kushner, Brad Parscal, other people in the campaign. We 446 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,200 walked into the Oval Office and President Trump got up 447 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,480 from behind the resolute distances. I think I have to 448 00:28:16,519 --> 00:28:19,440 shut travel down to Europe, and we had all the 449 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,599 battleground stay pauling in front of us, and I was like, 450 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:24,960 I just took the big computer books that I said, well, 451 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:26,880 we could throw these out because they said you were 452 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,559 going to win, and we were ahead at that point. 453 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,519 But it was it was kind of that was just 454 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,200 a bad turn of events that that took our growing 455 00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:41,039 economy and turned us into what turned out to be 456 00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:42,559 a shutdown that shouldn't have happened. 457 00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:48,799 Speaker 1: Probably bad turn of events and opportunities. Remember that's that 458 00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:53,640 was the the Rama manual idea, and he didn't come 459 00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:55,599 up with it, but he certainly drove it home during 460 00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:59,440 the Obama administration has never let a good crisis go 461 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,000 to way and that's exactly what they did. 462 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,559 Speaker 3: And our. 463 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: Editor in chief at The Federalist, Molly Hemingway, wrote an 464 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:16,839 excellent book about the mechanics the mechanizations of the twenty 465 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,799 twenty rig election, And we'll never get a full accounting 466 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,680 of the numbers, but we know the systems that were 467 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,480 put in place, the leftist nonprofits, the Zuckerbucks, all of 468 00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:36,039 that stuff. People are right to still have questions and 469 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,200 be suspicious about the outcome of that election not to 470 00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:41,880 be labor on twenty twenty eight, but here I am 471 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,759 be laboring on twenty twenty eight. Just a quick note, 472 00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:49,920 you mentioned JD. Vance possibly being in a very good 473 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,079 position with the wave the left is running itself the 474 00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:58,640 way the Democratic Party is running itself in America today. 475 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:02,559 He is the solid front runner at the moment. He's 476 00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:06,119 the vice president, but he is He's not a Kamala 477 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:13,200 Kamala Harris vice president. He has I think, really shown 478 00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:19,039 himself to be a credible number two and certainly a 479 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,960 credible candidate for president in twenty twenty eight. And his 480 00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:24,000 number show it, don't they. 481 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: Yes, And in fact, he's actually gone up from last 482 00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,519 December where he was at twenty five. And we've been 483 00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:32,920 asking about Donald Trump Junior because there was always some 484 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:38,200 speculation about that he has the brand name. But JD's 485 00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:40,799 gone from twenty five to thirty six when you look 486 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:43,599 at this month, and John Donald Trump Junior one from 487 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,839 twenty one to sixteen. But Ron DeSantis also hit double 488 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,000 digits at ten. So yeah, there's a lot. I think 489 00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:52,720 a lot depends upon what happens in the midterms, because 490 00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:56,839 keeping the House and keeping the Senate or Paramount right 491 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,839 now and President Trump putting together the policies that that 492 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,880 could happen. And that's the most important thing right now 493 00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,160 is that we that we make sure that the economy 494 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,200 is growing, we make sure that America is stronger. I mean, 495 00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:14,440 the Trump brand is about peace and prosperity, and the 496 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:18,599 economic policies are in place that you know, we certainly need. 497 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,519 You know, what's interesting is that that business all I 498 00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:24,039 mentioned to you, from job creators to network when you 499 00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:28,680 ask these small businesses, you ask them about, even though 500 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,000 they're more optimistic and they're very supportive of the Trump 501 00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:34,279 tax cuts, how difficult it is for them to raise 502 00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:37,240 capital and this interest in interest rate environment. Sixty nine 503 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,559 percent of small business owners and employers say it's difficult. 504 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,559 And if they do, they support the Federal Reserve cutting 505 00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:48,400 interest rates. Is it's next meeting lower credit courts? Seventy 506 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,039 four percent support that. That goes across the board, whether 507 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,519 you know whether the size of business or your political 508 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,119 I mean your politics. They want the interest rates to 509 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,880 be cut. They want to see the economy continue to grow. 510 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,160 And you know that's you know, it's it's really important 511 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,960 that the Trump tax cuts that you know, ironically began 512 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,839 in the first term because going back to the twenty 513 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,440 sixteen election, I remember sitting in President Trump's office in 514 00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:20,559 twenty six floor Trump Tower, and it was right after 515 00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,559 you know, they were battling. It was battling Ted Cruz 516 00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:27,480 and crew'ses one ioway, he won Wisconsin and we were 517 00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,119 going to the New York primaries and President Trump says 518 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:31,640 to me, do you think we need a tax cut? 519 00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:34,039 I said, of course. You know you're out there on 520 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,240 trade and immigration, but you're running in a Republican primary. 521 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000 And he says, where I go. And I said, you 522 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,720 just talked to Larry Cudlow, and just you know, Larry, 523 00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:47,319 I said, Cale, Larry helped put together a great player 524 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,039 for you, and he did with Steve Moore and Steve 525 00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:53,359 Forbes and bar Laffer and they and Trump got it passed. 526 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,119 When he got it passed, it was growing the economy. 527 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,000 And now you've got Trump two point zero, the Trump 528 00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:03,480 tax cuts that you know, they're growing the economy again. 529 00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:08,079 Markets are up for one k's are up, you know, 530 00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:11,440 small businesses or nine out of ten of those businesses, 531 00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:14,359 and that in that job carriers network, Pole said they 532 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,680 are going to grow their businesses. They're going to take 533 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,039 advantage of the Trump tax cuts, the deductions, the you know, 534 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,400 expensing for equipment, expensive drant restucts, and expensive research. They're 535 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,319 going to take advantage of that. And nine out of 536 00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:29,640 ten of them and tell us they're going to do 537 00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:32,039 things like almost have said they're going to raise their 538 00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:34,960 employees' wages and benefits. They're going to expand their operations, 539 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,839 they're going to hire more people. One in five said 540 00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:42,319 they'll hire more people. And uh so there's a lot 541 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,599 of good benefits that you could just see. It's in 542 00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:49,359 place that we we we can have a growing economy 543 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,960 like Ronald Reagan did going into the eighty four elections, 544 00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,920 or like Donald Trump did certainly going into the twenty 545 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,680 twenty elections until COVID hit, and uh, you know, like 546 00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:04,720 w Bush had going into the economy twenty two thousand 547 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,839 and two midterms. That kind of a growing economy is 548 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,440 really important at keeping the House and keeping the Senate 549 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,360 and keeping the overall economy growing and not allowing the 550 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,079 Gavin Newsan's of the world to say California's high tax 551 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,559 rates are good for everybody. No, yeah, absolutely not. 552 00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: Well, you hope that the derangement like COVID doesn't spread. 553 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,639 But you know, the usual suspects in the accomplished media 554 00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:37,960 are helping as much as they possibly can. You talk 555 00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:43,960 about the importance. Clearly, it is critical that if Republicans 556 00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:48,199 and Donald Trump hope to continue on with the agenda 557 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,760 Trump has set the ambitious agenda, they're going to need 558 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,119 to hold on to the reigns of power in Congress. 559 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,400 A lot of folks have talked, understandably so about Republicans 560 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,519 the challenges of holding the House with a very narrow 561 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:08,920 majority right now. What doesn't get the same kind of 562 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,400 conversation though, is I know you've looked at these numbers. 563 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,199 Republicans have their own share of challenges in holding the 564 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,199 Senate as successful as they were in twenty four in 565 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,679 regaining the Senate, what are the numbers look like there? 566 00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of people are more optimistic 567 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,440 about the Senate races because it's fewer. But you've just 568 00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,480 had Joni Ernst decide to retire in Iowa, and you 569 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:41,800 had Tom Tillis in North Carolina, but having pulled for 570 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,679 Donald Trump three times, he won North Carolina, and certainly 571 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,920 Burt Jones running for governor. Well, it's the center race 572 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,239 against USO in Georgia is going to be a key race. 573 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,559 So you when you look at the when you look 574 00:35:56,599 --> 00:36:00,960 at this the Senate races, they're less vulnerable to say, 575 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,840 a generic wave of Trump voters stay home. Where I mean, 576 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,679 if you have Trump voters stay home, we got to 577 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,880 really worry about the House and they'll be like forty 578 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,039 to fifty seats in play in the House. However, if 579 00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,320 we can motivate the Trump voters to come out, we 580 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,280 should be able to hold the House. But in the 581 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,960 center races, when you look at you know, toss ups, 582 00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:25,159 you allow Michigan where you have Mike Rodgers, who came 583 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,840 close last time running again, and we had worked for 584 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,880 Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania. My brother Jim was doing his 585 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,639 bowling and he was able to win that close race. 586 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,400 But when you've got toss up races in Michigan, in 587 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,039 North Carolina, and as Off, he's polling in the mid 588 00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:44,559 forties in Georgia, which is a bad sign for an incumbent, 589 00:36:44,639 --> 00:36:48,079 so it means he's vulnerable. And again we had polled 590 00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:52,800 for President Trump in the in all three races for 591 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,719 him in Georgia. And the only reason I think we 592 00:36:56,159 --> 00:36:58,840 barely lost Georgia in twenty twenty was because of the 593 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,320 drop boxes. Well, when Georgia fixed their election law requiring 594 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,840 voter I D for early in person vorroing, voter I 595 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,559 D for mail in ballots and voter I D on 596 00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:11,000 election day, I think that's strained now a lot of 597 00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:14,719 the races that we won handily, decisively and uh in 598 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,880 last November. Uh. And then you've got, you know, a 599 00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:22,880 close center race in Maine. You'll have Susan Collins and 600 00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:25,960 she'll be in a close center race New Hampshire or 601 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,960 Shaheen or retiring. Donald Trump came close to winning New Hampshire. 602 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,920 And I think that you know, you've got candidates like 603 00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:38,400 Dan Innes up there who could who could give give 604 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,519 a good race to Papas and the Democrats. And you've 605 00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:45,840 got uh, You've got to Ohio. We should be able 606 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,719 to hold share. Brown is going to run again, but 607 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,159 Houston should be able to hold that, and we could 608 00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:54,239 give them a race in Minnesota. We should be able 609 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,360 to hold Iowa. You know, those of us who were 610 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,119 called the des Moines Register of the You and I 611 00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:05,960 have spoken about before. I would you know. I mean 612 00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:09,320 President Trump won that decisively and it wasn't in play, 613 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,760 and we should be able to hold that race. And uh, 614 00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:17,880 you know Cornying or Paxton should win in Texas, so 615 00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:22,280 you know, so the Senate, the Senate's in play, but 616 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,800 a lot's going to depend upon you know, like Michael 617 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,239 Wattley North Carolina, he's running to replace Tom Tillis. A 618 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,880 lot's going to depend upon the strength of those individual 619 00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:36,039 candidates and President Trump's support for them to get out 620 00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:39,480 the Trump voters again, particularly in states like Georgia and 621 00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:44,280 North Carolina and Michigan which we won and uh, you know, 622 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,880 King close in New Hampshire. But uh, you know, we 623 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,159 should be able to win these races and hold the Senate. 624 00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:55,519 Speaker 1: And Selzer sees a blowout for the Democrat Senate candidate 625 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,639 in Iowa. 626 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: So I don't think he's retired. 627 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing you won't see coming up in the 628 00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:06,000 midterms is an Selzer polling at all. 629 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: I think before that she was very professional, but I 630 00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:13,199 think the Des Moines Register editorial board took advantage of her. 631 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,599 Speaker 1: It would see it would seem that way. I would 632 00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:19,679 like to see some of the communications and memos behind 633 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,480 that that I don't know if we will. There's good 634 00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:26,000 news from this poll. There's a lot of good news 635 00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:29,800 from this poll for conservatives and for conservative principles. But 636 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,880 I think it is important to note that the McLaughlin 637 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:40,480 poll finds raving support still for capitalism at about sixty 638 00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:46,039 five percent, what socialism or John around fourteen percent, Although 639 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,679 I will say this, a new Rasmussen poll is out 640 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,880 and they suggest that a majority of people eighteen to 641 00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:01,880 thirty nine support democratic socialist on the on the ballot. 642 00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:08,679 You know, your your New York communist running over there. 643 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:15,000 Maybe maybe they've got some some solidarity behind him, but 644 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:21,159 your your polling suggests that we are still steeped in 645 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,840 the principles of free markets and free people. 646 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: Well, the big differences, it's the contrast and the way 647 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,320 Scott ward is question is different than we pulled for 648 00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:37,519 Nuke Ingrich and his American New Majority project, where we 649 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,960 call it big government socialism and you know, and that's fair. 650 00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:45,960 And the reason is, you think about this, a lot 651 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:49,039 of the voters in the United States today were not 652 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,159 born until after the Berlin Wall came down in the 653 00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:58,920 Iron Curtain King, so you don't really understand communism and socialism. 654 00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:02,480 You know, them haven't been to China, and most of 655 00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:06,559 them have not been to you know, certainly Russia where 656 00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:09,480 they they you know, may not be capital it may 657 00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:11,960 not be capitalism, but it's certainly not and it may 658 00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:14,639 not be communism, but it's not real capitalism. 659 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,519 Speaker 1: I don't think most of them have seeing the movie 660 00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:18,440 stripes either with Bill Murray. 661 00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 2: Right, but the idea of when you have big government 662 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,519 socialism that changes everything. These younger voters, they don't know 663 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,880 when you test just if you think socialism is fair, 664 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,280 et cetera. They're they're getting this, you know, in particularly 665 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,760 the university educated, they're getting a different perspective. But but 666 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,199 that four to one margin exists for when you test 667 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,880 pre market capitalism as Larry Cudlo my caull it versus 668 00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:53,079 big government socialism as New Kingridge defines it. And you know, 669 00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:56,000 but there's other issues like when we say how serious 670 00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:58,760 rising crime is in the United States is nationwide eighty 671 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,639 eight percent of Wall voters say this is a serious problem, 672 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,679 fifty two very serious. That's on our website at McLachlan 673 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,599 online dot com this month's pole. And when you ask 674 00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,519 them about by the way, This is hopeful for Republicans. 675 00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:13,199 I may not agree with everything that Donald Trump and 676 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,000 Magiz stands for, but I think they're right about putting 677 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,559 America first. In the American people first, they agree sixty 678 00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:22,800 six to twenty nine. That's higher than fourteen points higher 679 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,960 than the president's Java pool in this survey. And now 680 00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:30,199 the difference is too we're talking about defining the Trump 681 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,360 you know, Trump's big beautiful bill. When you ask voters 682 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,000 if they think it's more of a spending bill and 683 00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:39,400 more of a tax cut, forty two to thirty seven, 684 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,280 they say more of a tax cut, but twenty one 685 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,000 don't know. So leaving it up to the left of 686 00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:47,079 center media to define it doesn't work. And when we 687 00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:49,719 ask voters if they're familiar with it, only sixty two 688 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,119 are familiar. Only eighteen very familiar. And you know, do 689 00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:57,519 you support or oppose President Trump's tax cut bill that 690 00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,960 recently passed into law. It's stead even fourty three forty three. 691 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:05,159 So you know, there's things that we still have to 692 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,280 tell the voters and define with a contrast versus these 693 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,039 these big government socialists. One other thing too, that's unique, 694 00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:16,199 coming up to nine to eleven, uh for those of 695 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,440 us for New York. Should every school in America be 696 00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:23,440 required to teach students that September eleventh, two thousand and one, 697 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,960 the United States was attacked by radical Islamic terrorists. Sixty 698 00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:30,559 percent said yes, but twenty three percent are saying yes, 699 00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:36,119 but don't mention religion. That's you know, I mean, that's 700 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,760 kind of interesting when you consider it was radical Islamic 701 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,559 terrorists who attacked us. Do you think the United States 702 00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,480 should be would be attacked again by radical or will 703 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,000 will be attacked again by radical Islamic terrorists? Forty seven 704 00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:54,599 percent of all voters said likely, Forty one percent said 705 00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:59,360 not likely. You know, so you've got you've got voters 706 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,239 who in effect aren't sure that this is going to 707 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,880 happen again, but the plurality voters think it might happen again. 708 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,159 So we've got to be on in a watch. 709 00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:10,679 Speaker 1: Who are the voters by the way, that said don't 710 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:18,199 mention religion? Are these cure starmer Labor Party democrats in America? 711 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,880 I mean, that's the sort of stuff that we are 712 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,559 seeing under that regime, and the censoring and the silencing 713 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,000 of speech is amazing. I know you've polled for folks 714 00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:39,280 across the pond, across the world. That's an interesting twisting 715 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,719 turn of events too, and something to watch here in 716 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,719 the country. But I would suggest that for all of 717 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,679 the young socialists, as you say, born after the Berlin 718 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,519 Wall fell, why don't we get them a double feature 719 00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:58,840 of Stripes with Bill Murray and Harold Ramis and Red 720 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,320 Dawn with Patrick Swayze, uh cee Thomas how I think 721 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,840 they might change their perspective. 722 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,280 Speaker 2: John. It's younger voters who are more secular, and it's 723 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,440 like they're maybe university educated, so it's like they're they're 724 00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:14,639 just they're they're just not being you know, they're I mean, 725 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,800 they're not being taught about, you know, basic facts of 726 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,360 the historic facts. So uh so it's it's you know, 727 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:30,440 they're being taught uh a more secularized, a more uh 728 00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:34,199 you know. I I would think it's it's just a 729 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,920 less a less realistic, uh set of facts about what 730 00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:41,719 really happened on one eleven. So for those of us 731 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,400 who lowis friends and people that we knew, I mean 732 00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:46,880 they because I'm from New York, so I friends who 733 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,760 were fireman friend, you know, father Michael Judge was, he 734 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,639 was the fire de bar and Chaplain. He was a 735 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,280 personal friend, so those of us. Neil Levin, he was 736 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,880 the head of the Port Authorio, used to work for 737 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,159 Center al Demonto in government Patucky. Uh. For the those 738 00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:03,159 of us have lost friends. You know, you can't you 739 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,480 can't lose perspective on what really happened that day. So 740 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,199 uh And since then, a lot of these younger a 741 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,840 lot of the younger voters who are now voters, a 742 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,519 lot of them had friends and family who actually responded 743 00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,639 and volunteered to serve after that, whether it's a you know, 744 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,320 in Afghanistan or Iraq or some other place where they've 745 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,800 been at. We still have to protect our country from uh, 746 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:31,400 these terrorists. That's it's an important it's an important aspect 747 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,840 that that needs to be taught. But your your point 748 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,760 is it's younger, it's more secular, they don't, you know, 749 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,920 they they just they don't have the religious values that 750 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,960 they understood what was going on at the time. And 751 00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:52,239 at the same time, they're more likely to be college educated. 752 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,639 Where you want to what kind of education they're getting, 753 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,599 So yeah, no doubt. 754 00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 1: I think that university and doctrination certainly plays a role. 755 00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:01,159 I have a final quest question for you. I mentioned 756 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,159 before you have been doing this game for what forty 757 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,920 years now plus over forty years? 758 00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll do professionally. I used to work for 759 00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:15,480 the Finkelstein, who was one of Reagan's polsters back in 760 00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:17,519 eighty two. I started working for him and worked in 761 00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:20,679 his reelection campaign as an assistant to author. 762 00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: And you got a photo of Dutch in your office, 763 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:23,840 I say, yeah, yeah. 764 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, But by the way, it was a long time ago, 765 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,920 in this twentieth century. 766 00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: So look at that lush black hair. 767 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,639 Speaker 2: Oh jeez. Yeah, well that was more of the lighting then. Oh, 768 00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:42,199 but it's still there. So sure enough. He was a 769 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,480 great president and he was a friend to Donald Trump too, 770 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,159 So there's a lot of us. There was a lot 771 00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:52,719 of us, all Reaganites that have have but Susie Wilds 772 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,239 worked in the Reagan White House. 773 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,280 Speaker 1: You've been, You've been. 774 00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 2: She's Trump's chief of staff. And there were other people 775 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,840 like Tony Donald was a speech trier for both Ronald 776 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,400 Reagan and for Donald Trump. And Tony passed away after 777 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,599 the election. So there's a there's there's a strong Reagan 778 00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:11,840 connection between Donald Trump. 779 00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: And all Reagan In the third grade, Matt kittle Gott 780 00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:20,840 got a letter rub it in from the Resident Ronald Reagan. 781 00:48:21,199 --> 00:48:24,119 I sent him a letter talking about, you know, my 782 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,920 brother was in the army in Germany and the you know, 783 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,400 the Bay Route bombings had occurred, and I was concerned, 784 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,679 and I wrote him a letter and I still have that. 785 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,360 Took that to show and tell many times. But this 786 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,760 is what I have to ask you as we close 787 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,960 out our conversation. You have done polling for a lot 788 00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:48,440 of famous politician Steve Forbes, Fred Thompson, you mentioned Schwarzenhager, 789 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:55,440 Florida Governor Jeb Bush, you know, and you've internationally polled 790 00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:59,440 for the likes Prime Minister of Benjamin Nett Yahoo, the 791 00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:03,400 Conservative Party in the United Kingdom. How about that? In 792 00:49:03,519 --> 00:49:09,039 the turn of events, who's the and and we bring 793 00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:17,760 it up again, president Trump's pollster. Who was the best 794 00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:22,119 to pull for? For whatever reason that might be? What 795 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,760 was the best campaign you worked on? 796 00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:29,280 Speaker 2: It was definitely Donald Trump's last campaign use and it 797 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,320 was because Donald Trump we had a personal relationship. He's 798 00:49:33,039 --> 00:49:34,719 although he grew up in Queens, I grew up in 799 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,079 the Bronx and then moved to Rockland County. But and 800 00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:40,159 like I mentioned, that I stayed a ford him, but 801 00:49:40,519 --> 00:49:45,920 he transferred after two years, went to University of Pennsylvania. 802 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,519 But he was the best candidate to work for in 803 00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:51,840 the last campaign because he didn't want to lose again. 804 00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:55,159 And we saw someone who no matter what they threw 805 00:49:55,199 --> 00:49:57,320 at him, whether they tried to take away his wealth, 806 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,119 they tried to put him in jail, they tried to 807 00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:01,400 knock him off the bat, they didn't give him enough 808 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,960 Secret Service protection where his life was at risk, and 809 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,000 he endured that all because he's very patriotic and he 810 00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:14,079 did what needed to be done because he didn't want 811 00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:16,480 to lose. He knew too much was at stake for 812 00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:19,280 our country and they were dismantling all the good things 813 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,480 he put in place during his first term, and he 814 00:50:22,599 --> 00:50:25,280 knew he could do a much better job this term. Well, 815 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,559 he was a faint phenomenal candidate to work for because 816 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,000 when you asked him to do something and he understood 817 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,360 it and he believed it, he would do the right things. 818 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:40,840 And whether it was during the primaries or during the 819 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,880 general election, he was on a mission. And at the 820 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,199 end of the campaign when he was asking and we've 821 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:53,360 been through this before, because after you know, after Biden 822 00:50:53,519 --> 00:51:00,559 was declared the winner in twenty twenty one, and had 823 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:02,320 to meet with him in his February tent and I 824 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,320 said to him, you realized two thirds of the Republicans 825 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,639 want you to run again. And I told him, I said, 826 00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:12,039 when Biden fails, you will win. Just like Jimmy Carter 827 00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:15,559 failed against Ronald Reagan. You know, people would want they 828 00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:18,239 had buyer's remorse. They wanted Reagan to run again, and 829 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,480 he won decisively in a landslide. I said, you will 830 00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:25,400 beat Joe Biden in the next election because he's going 831 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,199 to fail, and when he failed, you'll be elected. People 832 00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:30,719 will have buyer's remorse. You'll be elected. Well, he stayed 833 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,960 on that cour course where he just he understood that 834 00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:36,719 he could beat Joe Biden, and we were ahead in 835 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:43,840 the polls ever since Biden surrendered Afghanistan, triggering inflation. In 836 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,119 my polls unlikely voters, Donald Trump was ahead of Joe Biden, 837 00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:49,920 stayed ahead of Kamala Harris. And in the end of 838 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,719 the last week before the after the rally and the garden, 839 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,159 he called me and says, so, what's going to happen? 840 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,639 I said, just make your putts. I mean, you know, 841 00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:02,000 Romney was head of Barack Obama eight days out and 842 00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:05,840 then he blew over New York and New Jersey that 843 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,440 get hit by Hurricane Sandy. I said, you know, he 844 00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:10,119 looked like he was out of touch, and he lost 845 00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:12,920 the election. I said, you just need to make your 846 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,000 putts stay on message and keep doing what you've got 847 00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:18,159 to do in these battleground states. And Donald Trump said 848 00:52:18,159 --> 00:52:23,159 to me, you know, I'm not Mitt Romney, and he said, no, 849 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,079 he is not. He was fantastic. I mean, he was unbelievable. 850 00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:30,519 It's like totally he rewrote history. He was a phenomenal candidate. 851 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,719 He's a historic figure, was a great political and now 852 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,679 he's having great policy wins and he's making America really 853 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,760 truly great again. And his brand for America is absolute 854 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,559 peace and prosperity. And that's what he's that's what his 855 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,159 mission is. To make America more prosperous, so that every 856 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:53,960 person benefits, whether they're and whether they're working working class, 857 00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:56,800 or whether they're you know, a little better off. That's fine. 858 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,880 He wants him to be prosperous, and he wants America 859 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,360 to be a piece. He doesn't want I have to 860 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,079 put us into any of these wars. There endless wars. 861 00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:06,679 He wants the people to if you don't respect America, 862 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,920 you shoe at least fears and you should just let us, 863 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,440 let us exist in peace and let us our friends 864 00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:15,760 and allies exist in peace. So that's a great legacy. 865 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: He definitely spoke his language at the end of the campaign. 866 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,800 Make your putts. That's something Donald Trump knows all about 867 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,920 and the importance therein And I will say three one word, 868 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:37,400 three times, fight, fight, fight. Yes, that absolutely represents Donald Trump, 869 00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:42,079 and not just Donald Trump, but his mission to make 870 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,320 America great again. He continues to fight for that every day. 871 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,400 Thanks to my guest today, John McLaughlan, CEO partner with 872 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:58,400 New York based McLachlan and Associates, Trump's polster, you've been 873 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,519 listening to another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm 874 00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:05,320 Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be 875 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,840 back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom 876 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,679 and anxious for the fray. 877 00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 2: I heard the fame voice the reason 878 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 3: And then it faded away.