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Speaker 2: and with me today is my cranky old partner Jay
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Speaker 3: I don't think you realize it's cold that you.
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Speaker 2: and Jay Jay?
Speaker 3: What's up? I'm just here. Man, you're a front runner today.
Speaker 3: I am if the dog.
Speaker 4: You got the Dodger hat on, I'm wearing it every
Speaker 4: day until they lose. Oh Man, a little tough on
Speaker 4: a business meeting earlier in the week, but I wore it.
Speaker 3: But you know they're undefeated.
Speaker 4: They come on here about in about forty five minutes,
Speaker 4: so we'll be h I'll be paying attention. But you know,
Speaker 4: it's been fun to watch them No. Eight, no couple
Speaker 4: come from behind wins.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: We were talking about the Dodgers and now we're talking
Speaker 2: about the exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's there. You know, it's fun to watch
Speaker 3: as a Dodger fan.
Speaker 4: It's not fun to watch if you were Tigers, were
Speaker 4: an Atlanta fan. The West those were the Padres were
Speaker 4: undefeated until I think today they got I think it
Speaker 4: beat by the Cubs today.
Speaker 2: And what about the Giants? Giants?
Speaker 3: Who cares about the Giants? Who you're a Giants fan?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, get out of here. He's a he's a
Speaker 3: Northern Oh my god, Oh no, what are they? What
Speaker 3: are they? Okay, they've only lost ones?
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, it's crazy over there, so it could
Speaker 2: be the West could be tough, crazy over there. Okay, No,
Speaker 2: welcome back.
Speaker 5: Good.
Speaker 2: A lot of stuff going on. Yeah, yeah, final for
Speaker 2: this weekend. I was at the West Regional last week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was fun. Did you enjoy that I did? It
Speaker 2: was a lot of work, but I had a good time.
Speaker 3: You know. There's some really good games.
Speaker 4: Mean, the comeback by Texas Tech against Arkansas on Thursday
Speaker 4: and then the comeback by.
Speaker 3: You were the usual? What did you do? I did
Speaker 3: the usual?
Speaker 4: You did the media seeding and all that stuff through
Speaker 4: the mini can you know, the camera people who can
Speaker 4: only be there up to a certain time, through them
Speaker 4: out of the.
Speaker 3: Arena when they couldn't. How was color.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't see much of him because I
Speaker 4: didn't I didn't get to see the press conferences and
Speaker 4: and I and actually for that game, I was sitting
Speaker 4: over by the Texas Tech bench, so I didn't really
Speaker 4: see him.
Speaker 3: He couldn't have been very happy. Could you observe the
Speaker 3: Texas Tech coach? Yeah? Could you? I think he's a
Speaker 3: pretty damn good.
Speaker 4: He's a good coach, but he needs to dress better
Speaker 4: because he's in He dressed like I dress when I
Speaker 4: go to Safeway. You know, he had the he has
Speaker 4: the you know, the yeah, he had but he had
Speaker 4: the he had the he had the sort of the
Speaker 4: doctor's pants and no socks with his shoes or the
Speaker 4: low socks and you.
Speaker 2: Know, just just a T shirt and wanted Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I tell you, you know, I noticed these things.
Speaker 3: Steven.
Speaker 4: No, he's you know, I'm you know, just watching him
Speaker 4: and the way they held it together, the way they
Speaker 4: were getting they were getting the hel beat out of them.
Speaker 4: I mean, they were just getting obliterated. And and he
Speaker 4: just kept coaching, you know, which I thought was great.
Speaker 4: He just kept coaching, and it was it was amazing
Speaker 4: to see to see that comeback. I know, Cali party
Speaker 4: got a lot of crap for not following when you know,
Speaker 4: when they were up three. It was funny. There was
Speaker 4: a the next day, you know, you know those breakout
Speaker 4: sessions they do with the So the one that I
Speaker 4: was covering for for Texas Tech had the kid that
Speaker 4: made the three pointer of the Tide the game that
Speaker 4: went into overtime, and somebody asked him, when did you
Speaker 4: guys think you had a shot to win this game
Speaker 4: because you were getting basically getting the hell beat, and
Speaker 4: he said, there was a possession or they got like
Speaker 4: five offensive rebounds and got a basket, and I specifically
Speaker 4: remember that possession was right in front of me and
Speaker 4: and thought, you know, Arkansas needed to get one of
Speaker 4: those rebounds to stop this bleeding.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 4: He said, at that point, we all kind of looked
Speaker 4: at each other that we can still win this game.
Speaker 3: Because of that.
Speaker 4: They were down nineteen o one at that point, they
Speaker 4: were still down, you know, and I think in doubles digits,
Speaker 4: but they felt, you know, with the hustle that they
Speaker 4: showed and all that stuff, that they could win that game.
Speaker 3: And then they did.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how long he'll be there, but they're
Speaker 2: going to be good for a while. Yeah, and now
Speaker 2: we just I'll just say a breaking news because it's
Speaker 2: breaking news anyway, Henry going to North Carolina. Right, we
Speaker 2: both said, not a surprise, right, not a surprise. There's
Speaker 2: got to be some money involved. I don't think he's
Speaker 2: going to get any better coaching, that's damn sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: And he he's getting what he's getting because of what
Speaker 4: Tommy did with him this year. Right, And and look,
Speaker 4: you know, people get pissed off at that stuff.
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 4: I mean interesting, tell me, tell me, you know, if
Speaker 4: if a head hunter came came to you and said,
Speaker 4: I'm going to double your salary. Yeah, you know, but
Speaker 4: you've got to come over here, just give me two weeks.
Speaker 4: Hit me in the ass.
Speaker 3: I'm going I got to tell these guys there in
Speaker 3: two weeks going, you know.
Speaker 4: And so I don't have any problem with that. You
Speaker 4: know that that's what we're supposed to do. That's what
Speaker 4: we all do, right.
Speaker 2: And so I think it's a it's a thing where
Speaker 2: you know, if he can do that, more power to him.
Speaker 3: Loyalty doesn't pay the bills.
Speaker 2: No, No, you're right, it's funny. You talked about the
Speaker 2: door hitting your ass. We had to say, you know,
Speaker 2: Dad said, you know, Ken, Yeah, made your decision that
Speaker 2: you make.
Speaker 3: Is a good one, good one.
Speaker 2: But if it isn't, don't come crying to me, don't
Speaker 2: you don't hope you don't have any regrets.
Speaker 4: I hope it's a good decision for him, you know
Speaker 4: if if they want him over there, and you know,
Speaker 4: then they they they've got a plan for him.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you because I've been saying that the
Speaker 2: last two three days. Uh, I've been saying this that
Speaker 2: I think that the kJ thing was an ongoing thing
Speaker 2: that you know, he kind of already knew and they
Speaker 2: had already pursued, and and Henry too, that this was
Speaker 2: this was an ongoing thing for you months that you
Speaker 2: know they're they're pursuing, but behind.
Speaker 4: The scenes, right, Well, you know how if you know no,
Speaker 4: you know, I well, I was going to tell you,
Speaker 4: you know how you always hear things after the fact,
Speaker 4: right and not nothing related to Henry, But you know
Speaker 4: you just heard a few mumblings that you know that
Speaker 4: Tommy and kJ, but it heads a bit.
Speaker 3: Oh, I would have I would have seen that and
Speaker 3: you could see that Okay, so you can you see
Speaker 3: that I didn't didn't see it, but you could.
Speaker 4: kJ is a strong personality, and then you know and
Speaker 4: then you have the coach the text.
Speaker 2: Don't forget about the text sending amount to taking them out. Well,
Speaker 2: let me say this, because you've been in the business, uh,
Speaker 2: and I've been in the business.
Speaker 3: A long time.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the newspaper, which is different than this.
Speaker 2: And you go to a coach, or you go to
Speaker 2: people officials, and you ask because you hear things and
Speaker 2: they deny things, right, which is what they do. So so, uh,
Speaker 2: do you think that moving to the bench, the story
Speaker 2: of moving to the bench because he requested it is legit.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say Tommy's wrong or kJ is, but
Speaker 2: now in retrospect.
Speaker 4: In retrospect, to me, it's maybe a little less of
Speaker 4: a mutual decision than we were led to believe.
Speaker 3: I have to think that me too.
Speaker 2: And does it matter not anymore? Not not even then?
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, sure, because we hear
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 4: Right again after the fact, and now that you've got
Speaker 4: everything right, you've got all the facts that you know,
Speaker 4: you've got the outcome. Now you look back and see, Okay,
Speaker 4: what things led to this outcome? And I do believe
Speaker 4: that maybe that wasn't as mutual as as we thought,
Speaker 4: and maybe kJ wasn't happy about it.
Speaker 2: And you, well, you said you've heard things, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I haven't heard things. I haven't really pried into that situation.
Speaker 2: But what you see is what you see, and after
Speaker 2: effects is what you see.
Speaker 4: Right and then and then you know, you also have
Speaker 4: to consider that, you know, Tommy's got this recruiting class
Speaker 4: coming in. It looks like it's unbelievable, and so where
Speaker 4: does kJ think he fits in there?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: The one thing, the one thing is, and I'll say
Speaker 2: this to you because we covered this forever, it seems
Speaker 2: like nobody's happy anymore, and not that happiness is.
Speaker 3: Is the key to stain or whatever.
Speaker 2: There's money, there's happiness, there's playing time, YadA, YadA, But everybody.
Speaker 3: Wants to jump anyway.
Speaker 4: I would I would characterize it more as nobody's satisfied anymore.
Speaker 4: Everybody thinks that there's something more out there, right, meaning money,
Speaker 4: playing time, uh, you know, opportunity to get into the
Speaker 4: NBA by putting yourself in a better situation, combined with
Speaker 4: the ability to do that anytime you want.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of life now. Yeah, that's that's what
Speaker 2: the kids have grown up with. That, that's that's college
Speaker 2: athletics now. And and you know, everybody's got to get
Speaker 2: used to it. We say that all the time.
Speaker 4: But I think that what you have is that everybody's
Speaker 4: got one eye out there looking to see what else
Speaker 4: is there for me and if there's something comes along,
Speaker 4: you know, loyalty is about tenth on the list of
Speaker 4: things that.
Speaker 3: Matter to those guys. And that's part of the it's about.
Speaker 2: Me, yeah, and that's part of the problem with a
Speaker 2: lot of things out there. Yeah, right, you know, do
Speaker 2: you really want to go I haven't made here. Maybe
Speaker 2: I should stick out, that's not gonna say.
Speaker 4: And then let's not forget about the aspect of you know,
Speaker 4: people who are whispering in your ear right, you know.
Speaker 3: And that's always been the situation.
Speaker 2: The funny thing about it is just this week when
Speaker 2: you talk about other agents are helping the right and
Speaker 2: think back when we did this, you couldn't talk to anybody.
Speaker 3: Couldn't talk to an agent.
Speaker 4: If you got talk, if you were caught talking to
Speaker 4: an agent, you got suspended, You got agents, you got family,
Speaker 4: you got friends, you got all kinds of people that
Speaker 4: are talking in your ear. So there's so many there's
Speaker 4: so much noise out there. I guess what you would
Speaker 4: call it.
Speaker 2: Well, let me talk to you about this, because because
Speaker 2: we when we covered it the way we covered it,
Speaker 2: you heard noise, the fan noise. It wasn't unsocial or whatever,
Speaker 2: but now there was noise. KG got a lot of noise, right,
Speaker 2: Caleb got a lot of noise. Do you think that
Speaker 2: plays a little factor? Is that these guys don't appreciate me?
Speaker 2: What the hell though?
Speaker 3: I want to be here? Of course it does. Kurk
Speaker 3: Creefs is a perfect example, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, all the crap that he had to take
Speaker 4: from social media and whatnot, why would he stick around?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: And so it's again, it's it's it's life in college athletics,
Speaker 4: not particularly football and basketball. And that's what that's what
Speaker 4: it is. And what you have to do as a
Speaker 4: fan is just understand that's where it is.
Speaker 3: Deal with it. Just deal with it.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you about you talked about kerr
Speaker 2: oh oh the kid so a. Now they're making well
Speaker 2: eight hundred million dollars. So we talked about this before
Speaker 2: when you were here. Most of the time, they're not
Speaker 2: they're not amateur athletes, they're not at all. I don't know.
Speaker 2: And then I've still held them with kid gloves because
Speaker 2: you know, you know, as you do, you do. But
Speaker 2: but but I think that's going to start to change.
Speaker 4: Well, the line is moved a little bit enough where
Speaker 4: you know, I still don't like you know, uh, whoever
Speaker 4: it is, you know, a pod a podcaster or a
Speaker 4: radio person or something like that, jumping on these guys
Speaker 4: in a in a really petty kind of crappy way,
Speaker 4: you know, But I think he can be a little
Speaker 4: more critical of.
Speaker 2: The performance the performance personals, you know, kind of how.
Speaker 4: They represent, right. But I think the line on that
Speaker 4: has moved. Am I going to go on and rip
Speaker 4: a Kylon Boswell because he played blackjack, you know, during
Speaker 4: the PAC twelve tournament?
Speaker 2: No, but you're not know what because that's not an answer. Well,
Speaker 2: what I mean, he was on his own time, so why.
Speaker 3: He was under twenty one?
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not going to give him any crap for
Speaker 4: anything I did myself.
Speaker 3: That's the bottom line.
Speaker 5: I did it.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing. I'm not giving him you know, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not the podcasting cattle, all right, So you know,
Speaker 2: but that was just an example, you know I'm talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, the type of stuff that that's that I
Speaker 2: think is fair game.
Speaker 3: Is it fair game to say he hasn't played very well?
Speaker 2: You know, you know what's going on, you know, those
Speaker 2: kinds of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, that's all. That's okay.
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna you know, there aren't going to
Speaker 2: be death threats and that kind of stuff. But what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is that you're just going the line has
Speaker 2: moved a little bit where you can get on them
Speaker 2: a little more about performance, because they are getting paid
Speaker 2: to perform.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not just a little, I mean a lot.
Speaker 3: They're getting pad quite a bit. Some of them game
Speaker 3: quite so.
Speaker 2: Table For what's going to come up, I think it's
Speaker 2: gonna be a pretty good show. Well, I know it's
Speaker 2: gonna be. Yeah, yeah, Brian Jeffries today, in the next
Speaker 2: five minutes, six minutes, he's gonna be He's gonna be
Speaker 2: on the road. He's an issue, a busy, busy man
Speaker 2: going from football to basketball to now baseball, baseball. Uh
Speaker 2: in Tempe. Uh, So we'll have him with that. We'll
Speaker 2: talk a lot about all this stuff. Spring practice. We
Speaker 2: have been talking about that spring practice hoops that he's
Speaker 2: just finished in another good baseball team that he's now
Speaker 2: announcing on. So there's that, and the next hour we're
Speaker 2: going to get our old friend Josh Pasner, who last
Speaker 2: time we had him on, he was an announcer.
Speaker 3: For ESPN.
Speaker 2: What we used to think was one of the premier
Speaker 2: basketball programs in the country.
Speaker 4: I was so happy for him because that seems like
Speaker 4: such a perfect fit for him in terms of, you know,
Speaker 4: a program it's it's it has a chance to be
Speaker 4: a really good program. But he's not going to have
Speaker 4: the pressure maybe that you had it say a Memphis
Speaker 4: or Georgia Tech. Yes, they want to win, but that
Speaker 4: program hasn't been in good shape in quite a while.
Speaker 2: It's funny, I was going to ask you if they
Speaker 2: can give him some patience or they them being patient right,
Speaker 2: that this could work out.
Speaker 4: And see, And that's the thing. He's such a likable guy.
Speaker 4: You can't even begin to question his work ethic. You know,
Speaker 4: he's going to work with his ass off, right, So
Speaker 4: you know this is the type of job for him
Speaker 4: where it's a great opportunity for him, but it's a
Speaker 4: great opportunity for U n LV to get a guy.
Speaker 4: He come in, he's already got some chops. He's been
Speaker 4: at some some good some good programs, and now he
Speaker 4: comes to your program that needs somebody to work at
Speaker 4: hard and he will do that.
Speaker 2: And we know that he can and he will do that.
Speaker 2: I'm christ about his staff. I ask him about his
Speaker 2: staff because that's important. That's important, I thought, and we
Speaker 2: we know we cover lut right, we followed him forever.
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that lut had for
Speaker 2: Luke because he could be the hammer and he had
Speaker 2: ros as his assistant, who was the sooths there. Right,
Speaker 2: I think Josh needs either the hammer or that guy.
Speaker 4: You know if I, if I'm here, might have gone
Speaker 4: to get Mike Bibby. And by the relationship they've had.
Speaker 3: We got a call. Uh uh, well we'll not take it.
Speaker 3: We'll go to break and wants for this. Thanks.
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Speaker 1: Steve Rivera, he's got his eye on the ball on
Speaker 1: Tucson's sports station, Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I in the Ball Hero Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with me today
Speaker 2: it's Jay Gonzalez. That on the phone is the voice
Speaker 2: of the Wildcats, Ryan Brian. How are you.
Speaker 5: I'm doing well. It's good to hear the gang is
Speaker 5: back together.
Speaker 3: Yes today and you're including you you're the pitch.
Speaker 2: Hey, when basketball just seemed like it finished yesterday, did
Speaker 2: you have time to decompress or do you take a breath?
Speaker 13: Uh?
Speaker 5: No, not really. I mean we flew home on Friday.
Speaker 5: The game was on Thursday. Flew home on Friday, and
Speaker 5: then Saturday I got back into baseball a couple of
Speaker 5: games against Baylor, and then came up to Phoenix Tuesday
Speaker 5: for Grand Canyon and tonight start the U of AASU
Speaker 5: Territory Cup Baseball Series. You're at the Phoenix MUNI. So, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's been pretty busy, Brian.
Speaker 3: Does that keep you young or is it making you old?
Speaker 3: From too old dudes?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, you tell me, Jay, I mean you've been
Speaker 5: through this before, you know. Actually, it keeps me going.
Speaker 5: I get a lot of energy from being around to
Speaker 5: different athletes, no matter what sport it is, and so
Speaker 5: I look forward to each sport as it comes along.
Speaker 5: And so I was sad to see the bat basketball
Speaker 5: season end, but I was excited that I get back
Speaker 5: to see baseball for the rest of the year. And so, yeah,
Speaker 5: I guess it keeps me young. If you can say that,
Speaker 5: I'll take that.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, maybe for the fans
Speaker 2: or even the people who cover it, because you deal
Speaker 2: with it on a day to day. For basketball, they
Speaker 2: struggled early, a lot of people were discontented. They caught
Speaker 2: fire in the middle of the season and then they
Speaker 2: kind of waned, but then they caught fire again for
Speaker 2: the tournaments, right and it turned out how they played
Speaker 2: Duke was kind of a reinvigorating that they played hard
Speaker 2: to play close and it kind of made the season okay,
Speaker 2: or even better than okay, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: How did you look at it and did it feel
Speaker 3: like that?
Speaker 5: Well, I would say, if you go all the way
Speaker 5: to the end, yeah, I mean I'm always sad when
Speaker 5: the season comes to an end if you don't get
Speaker 5: to the you know, the promised land, as they say.
Speaker 5: But I wasn't disappointed at all. I was sad it ended,
Speaker 5: but I wasn't disappointed because I thought they showed a
Speaker 5: lot of grit down the stretch and getting to the
Speaker 5: sweet sixteen, and you know, playing Duke as well as
Speaker 5: they did. I mean, Duke's just that good. Duke was
Speaker 5: the better team. I mean, you just say that and
Speaker 5: you move on from there. But I thought arizonas certainly
Speaker 5: equipped itself well and played to the best of their
Speaker 5: abilities down the stretch. And like you said, they got
Speaker 5: up that four and five start, and a lot of
Speaker 5: people were scratching their heads, including me, saying, okay, is
Speaker 5: this going to be an off year? But I'll give
Speaker 5: Tommy and his staff credit that they kind of as
Speaker 5: you know, retooled that rotation, and you know, the new
Speaker 5: guys kind of caught hold there in early January and
Speaker 5: got it going and and Finny strong. So I think
Speaker 5: you walk away from the season saying, yeah, this was
Speaker 5: this was good, and of course now you just hope
Speaker 5: to build upon that and bring in some new faces
Speaker 5: and do it again next year.
Speaker 4: You know, one of the things that I've heard a
Speaker 4: lot of, and this is from fans who, like like
Speaker 4: all of us, right disappointed when it ended. When you
Speaker 4: step back and took a look at really how the
Speaker 4: season played out, a lot of people really really giving
Speaker 4: Tommy credit for a coaching his best coaching job here
Speaker 4: and it's only four years, right, but that you know,
Speaker 4: this was he went right that this was a team
Speaker 4: that maybe a lot of people thought was better than
Speaker 4: it really was at the start of the season, realized
Speaker 4: they've got some holes, and yet somehow Tommy pulled this
Speaker 4: team together and you know, accomplished about what you hope
Speaker 4: that they would accomplish.
Speaker 3: I agree with that, I thought this was his best
Speaker 3: coaching job. Well, I do.
Speaker 5: I'll second that absolutely. I think it was because you know,
Speaker 5: nowadays in college basketball, it's a new team every year,
Speaker 5: and so he had three transfers and a couple of freshmen,
Speaker 5: and you know, three of those five played big parts
Speaker 5: of this season, and you don't know how those pieces
Speaker 5: are going to fit together right away, and I think
Speaker 5: it just took a while. And then when Mok Crevis
Speaker 5: got hurt. You know, that was a guy that you know,
Speaker 5: they had penciled in as their starting center, and now
Speaker 5: he's gone for the season eight games in, and again
Speaker 5: they have to retool things. And I give credit to
Speaker 5: Tommy and the staff. I think they did a great
Speaker 5: job finding a formula that they liked, sticking with it,
Speaker 5: and even when times were tough, they didn't go away
Speaker 5: from it. And they told the guys, look, you know,
Speaker 5: we we've got this. We think we can win with
Speaker 5: this formula, and they continue to believe in that, and
Speaker 5: like I said, you end up twenty four wins, and
Speaker 5: you know, of their thirteen losses, I thought, twelve of
Speaker 5: them are the really good basketball teams. And that's you
Speaker 5: know why they earned a four seed. They played a
Speaker 5: tough schedule. So yeah, I walk away with it saying, hey,
Speaker 5: that's that's pretty good considering everything that surrounded the team
Speaker 5: both before and during the season.
Speaker 2: You talked about this before that, you talked about the
Speaker 2: new guys had to take some time to get to
Speaker 2: know each other and to play better, blah blah blah
Speaker 2: after the four or five start.
Speaker 3: But guess what, it's the way of the world, right.
Speaker 2: You see three pretty good players now, Henry Martinez and
Speaker 2: kJ leaving, and there could be more, who knows.
Speaker 3: But then the next year some new groups. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's kind of restarting everything again.
Speaker 5: Well it is, and that's it's I don't know, it's
Speaker 5: sad to me that this is what it's come to
Speaker 5: because the three of us were round when a guy
Speaker 5: would come in as a freshman and stay four years
Speaker 5: three at the you know, at the least, and you
Speaker 5: get to watch them kind of grow up in the program.
Speaker 5: And that's the way it was, you know, with teams
Speaker 5: across the country. And now the Portal has made everything
Speaker 5: different and now you can come and go anytime you want,
Speaker 5: and so yeah, you just every coach in America now
Speaker 5: is rebuilding his team a year in and year out,
Speaker 5: and so if you're good at it, and you know,
Speaker 5: Tommy got three good guys out of the Portal and
Speaker 5: he's going to need to do the same thing now
Speaker 5: to you know, keep the program at the same level,
Speaker 5: if not better. And then you take a look at
Speaker 5: the young guys that they've already got committed, and there's
Speaker 5: no reason to think that they're going to be you know,
Speaker 5: just as good, if not better, come next season. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it's kind of a tough adjustment for those of us
Speaker 5: who have been through the other side of it. But
Speaker 5: I guess if this is the way it's going to be,
Speaker 5: we've got to just accept it and go on from there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 4: And one of the things that I think I saw too,
Speaker 4: is that how Tommy grew as a coach right both
Speaker 4: in just the way he handled himself, but you know,
Speaker 4: handled games, handle the kJ situation, when he took him
Speaker 4: out of the starting lineup and put him on the bench,
Speaker 4: knowing when to start Basar and when not to and
Speaker 4: those kinds of things.
Speaker 3: You just felt like he was a lot more comfortable
Speaker 3: in his in his decisions, in his decisions.
Speaker 4: And making the decisions that he thought, even from game
Speaker 4: to game were bad, you know, things that he had
Speaker 4: to do. I really felt like he did a lot
Speaker 4: there as well, and maybe that's something we might see
Speaker 4: next year, you know, when he steps on the court,
Speaker 4: and how different he might be with some of the
Speaker 4: confidence that he think he gained from the way he
Speaker 4: worked things this year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that. And I don't know if
Speaker 5: he said it this season when I was around. I
Speaker 5: know last year he mentioned it at least once. He says, Hey,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm still new at this. I'm still, you know,
Speaker 5: learning how to be a head coach. And I thought
Speaker 5: that was great that he would recognize that because none
Speaker 5: of us in any business we go into I mean,
Speaker 5: it takes you a while to to hone your craft,
Speaker 5: be it, you know, whatever it might be. So I
Speaker 5: think he's he's learned a lot, he's progressed a lot,
Speaker 5: he's grown a lot, and probably some more on the
Speaker 5: way as well. I mean, I take that game against
Speaker 5: Oregon up in Seattle. I you know, Dana Altman's been
Speaker 5: coaching what thirty some odd years, and I thought Tommy
Speaker 5: out coached him. I just thought the matchups that he
Speaker 5: put on the floor exploited Oregon both offensively and defensively.
Speaker 5: And that told me a lot right there about you know,
Speaker 5: how good a coach Tommy is and how much better
Speaker 5: he's gotten in four years. At least he got him
Speaker 5: right where he wanted him when they were down nineteen
Speaker 5: to four. From nineteen to four, Yeah, well, I think
Speaker 5: that was in the game plan. I saw that on
Speaker 5: the chalkboard in the locker room. It says we need
Speaker 5: to get down by fifteen, a minimum of fifteen, and
Speaker 5: then we're going to show him what we're made of.
Speaker 2: Now that that was about as mad as I was
Speaker 2: as I was at the team all year long. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was help was throwing stuff and oh man, So Brian,
Speaker 2: I don't think we've asked you this since you've been
Speaker 2: on the show a couple times. How was going on
Speaker 2: the road in the Big twelve?
Speaker 1: Is you know?
Speaker 3: Fun?
Speaker 5: Well? It was different there, you know, there's always some
Speaker 5: fun aspects to it. It was a learning curve for
Speaker 5: me because I haven't been to most of those cities before.
Speaker 5: And so when you're in the Pac twelve, as you
Speaker 5: guys know, I mean, you kind of have your habits.
Speaker 5: You know where to go, probably stay in the same
Speaker 5: hotel almost every year. You've got your favorite restaurants, you
Speaker 5: know how to get to the arena, You know where
Speaker 5: everything is, and now you're walking into new arenas and
Speaker 5: new towns that you've never been to before. And yeah,
Speaker 5: it was it was a lot to learn. I would
Speaker 5: say the biggest difference was the weather, which doesn't affect
Speaker 5: basketball because it's played indoors, but it affects your travel.
Speaker 5: And of course, you know, you got to get out
Speaker 5: of the hotel once in a while, and so it
Speaker 5: was either cold or windy. It seemed like everywhere we went.
Speaker 5: The best weather we had was in Provo, Utah, of
Speaker 5: all places, So that was an adjustment. But I will
Speaker 5: say this, my fellow broadcasters in the Big Twelve are
Speaker 5: very organized, and those guys, even though I only knew
Speaker 5: a couple of them, were very kind in terms of,
Speaker 5: you know, kind of pointing out where to go and
Speaker 5: what to do and what do we expect each place.
Speaker 5: And even when we got to Kansas City for the
Speaker 5: Big Twelve tournament, we all had a dinner together, at
Speaker 5: least all of us that were there on Tuesday. I
Speaker 5: think that Tuesday, with the first round games and the
Speaker 5: four guys that had to play weren't there, but everybody
Speaker 5: else made it to dinner. And that's kind of neat
Speaker 5: to get around, get down to sit down with one
Speaker 5: another and trade stories, and part of it was just
Speaker 5: a business meeting. It's okay. Were there things that came
Speaker 5: up at different locations that need our attention, And the
Speaker 5: Big Twelve has been very good about helping out radio
Speaker 5: crews in terms of making sure that everything's set everywhere
Speaker 5: you go. So I love that organization side of it.
Speaker 5: And it turned out good. And we didn't get to
Speaker 5: see every place either, so that'll be fun now in
Speaker 5: the years to come to see the arenas that we
Speaker 5: haven't been to.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: Certainly, I think one of the things that I thought
Speaker 4: about year a long was just how much more attention
Speaker 4: Arizona got by being in the Big Twelve. You know,
Speaker 4: they were part of the national conversation, you know, a
Speaker 4: lot more than you know ever, especially once we got
Speaker 4: started heading towards the postseason.
Speaker 3: You know, we're sitting.
Speaker 4: Here while I was sitting here watching the games and
Speaker 4: realizing that, you know, and it's been a long time
Speaker 4: since I'd been home for the conference tournaments. But really,
Speaker 4: you know, seeing how the Big Twelve got played on
Speaker 4: ESPN and and all that, and thinking, you know, in
Speaker 4: the Pac Twelve you know, they were on Pac twelve
Speaker 4: networks and there were so many people who didn't even
Speaker 4: see them, and just I was I really had an
Speaker 4: appreciation for how much more Arizona got into the national
Speaker 4: conversation as we got into the latter stages of the
Speaker 4: season and then into the playoffs. It to me, as
Speaker 4: an Arizona fan, I thought that was one of the
Speaker 4: coolest aspects of being of this first year in the
Speaker 4: Big Twelve.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I agree, and I think that you know,
Speaker 5: the SEC can say that they were the best basketball conference,
Speaker 5: and we can argue that for a long time, but
Speaker 5: the Big Twelve has been one of the top conferences
Speaker 5: in college basketball, as you guys know, for years and
Speaker 5: years and years. And I noticed that just in where
Speaker 5: we went, and that would kind of, you know, cup
Speaker 5: along with what I was just talking about in terms
Speaker 5: of traveling to all these new places. Everywhere we went
Speaker 5: this year, the place, if it wasn't full, it was
Speaker 5: close to being full. I think the one exception was
Speaker 5: Oklahoma City and they didn't or I'm sorry, Oklahoma State,
Speaker 5: they didn't have a great season going It was freezing cold.
Speaker 5: They were telling people not to leave their house and
Speaker 5: they still had over six thousand show up to watch
Speaker 5: Arizona and in Oklahoma State play, so but everywhere else
Speaker 5: we went. You know, you're talking about, you know, great crowds,
Speaker 5: great enthusiasm. That's why it's so difficult to win on
Speaker 5: the road in the Big Twelve. And I think that
Speaker 5: goes along with what you were saying, Jay about the
Speaker 5: attention that the conference gets because of the history behind
Speaker 5: it and you know, getting that national exposure. And we
Speaker 5: talked about traveling across the country. Well that's one of
Speaker 5: the plus sides is that when you're traveling across the country,
Speaker 5: the rest of the country gets to know you. And
Speaker 5: I think it only helps Arizona's you know, image grow.
Speaker 5: It's pretty positive as it is, but this is certainly
Speaker 5: going to help being in the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: This transition to baseball real quick, you know, that's what
Speaker 2: you're up in ten p for today. For this weekend.
Speaker 2: You've watched some three or four games. I'm assuming you
Speaker 2: can tell me how many What has impressed you. They're
Speaker 2: obviously pretty good.
Speaker 5: They're pretty good. You know, they got enough for turning
Speaker 5: players back from a year ago. They've added some new arms,
Speaker 5: which they needed to do. The defense has been fairly solid.
Speaker 5: I think they certainly miss Brendon summer Hill right now.
Speaker 5: He's a four hundred hitter. He was their best player,
Speaker 5: and he's been out for a couple of weeks now
Speaker 5: and he's going to be out for a couple of
Speaker 5: more with an injury that to me is kind of
Speaker 5: holding them back right now from being as good as
Speaker 5: they can be. They've also been out without East and
Speaker 5: Bright Fogel. He might be back to play at some
Speaker 5: point this weekend. But you know, the Kevin Vance, who's
Speaker 5: Chip Hail's pitching coach, has done a marvelous job, not
Speaker 5: only with the returning guys, but with some of the
Speaker 5: new arms that are in. We'll see one of them
Speaker 5: tonight on the Mount in a starting situation. And so
Speaker 5: it's a good team now. I gotta be honest with you, guys.
Speaker 5: They've lost three of their last four games, and I
Speaker 5: was up here on Tuesday when they lost to Grand
Speaker 5: Canyon and just didn't play very well. And so I
Speaker 5: think this weekend is really important. You've got two teams
Speaker 5: that are both sitting there with twenty wins already, and
Speaker 5: both of them have eyes on postseason play and success.
Speaker 5: And so the winner of the series this weekend. I
Speaker 5: think we're going to know a lot more about both
Speaker 5: of them, and I'm interested to see how the Wildcats
Speaker 5: deal with the Sound Devels. This might be as U's
Speaker 5: best team here now in about four or five years
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 2: Okay, and that's a really quick transition to football now,
Speaker 2: spring game coming in in about.
Speaker 3: A week or so, ten days or whatever.
Speaker 2: Sort of a spring game, yes, but yes, it's exactly
Speaker 2: a spring festival or something like that. It's gone by
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. What are you looking to do with that
Speaker 2: and see from there?
Speaker 5: Well, like you said, I mean, it's really not a game,
Speaker 5: and I don't know. I can't remember the last time
Speaker 5: there was actually a spring game, right, you know, sometimes
Speaker 5: they'll go through some drills and then run some plays
Speaker 5: and then go through some and I understand that, And
Speaker 5: I don't think having a game is all that important.
Speaker 5: I know at some places around the country it's it's
Speaker 5: celebrated that, you know, the place is full and that
Speaker 5: sort of thing, But what does it do to help
Speaker 5: the team? And I think I don't think a game
Speaker 5: necessarily does anything for them, since they're playing one another
Speaker 5: and there's the injury factor and and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: So but the idea that you know they've been to remember,
Speaker 5: you got both sides of the ball now have new coordinators,
Speaker 5: and so they're installing a lot of new new things,
Speaker 5: new game plans, et cetera. And so I think that's
Speaker 5: the important part of spring and and the spring showcases
Speaker 5: to get out there and run a lot of the
Speaker 5: stuff that they've been learning here in spring ball. So
Speaker 5: that's to see. And I just I like what coach
Speaker 5: Brennan has done in terms of changing up some staff positions,
Speaker 5: like I said, new coordinators and also bringing in a
Speaker 5: lot of new faces they had. They had to make
Speaker 5: some changes. I some tough decisions there, but I think
Speaker 5: it was important and I think on paper right now
Speaker 5: it looks like some great decisions. So we'll see what.
Speaker 5: You know, the spring is one thing, but once we
Speaker 5: get the fall, then of course we find out what
Speaker 5: it's really all about.
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, Brian, enjoy the weekend. Good luck to
Speaker 2: the Cats.
Speaker 3: Thanks a bunch, All right, thanks guys, We'll be well.
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Speaker 3: Who do you have for this weekend? I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't know you. Did you enter your own pool? You
Speaker 3: would you have?
Speaker 2: I'm not doing very good. I mean, I've got Duke
Speaker 2: in there, but it's like who doesn't, right I? I
Speaker 2: I think dude's gonna win.
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 4: I think literally, I think the best team. I think
Speaker 4: I think the best team with the best player. Cooper
Speaker 4: Flag was unbelievable. I mean what I saw him do
Speaker 4: against Arizona was stupid. By that, I mean just great
Speaker 4: crazy stuffs. He didn't miss. He you know, he got
Speaker 4: a he got all the rebounds, he handled the ball.
Speaker 4: Nobody's got a Cooper Flag right, as good as that
Speaker 4: kid is from Florida, Walter Clayton, you know, and as
Speaker 4: good as you know. I mean we've seen he saw
Speaker 4: Houston what three times against Arizona. I I I still think, Duke.
Speaker 4: Did I think that back in November when or play
Speaker 4: you hadn't seen him, you know, the first that one time?
Speaker 3: All right? Did I think that?
Speaker 4: And I thought Arizona can beat these guys. They were
Speaker 4: never going to beat Duke in the sweet sixteen. They
Speaker 4: were never going to win that game.
Speaker 2: I thought, just just the fact that Arizona hung with
Speaker 2: him from the standpoint of after they were getting obliterated,
Speaker 2: they came back and made it a game.
Speaker 3: I was the best Arizona was going to do.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: So I feel a wager coming on, another rager between
Speaker 2: you and me. Uh, you'll take Duke, I'll take Florida.
Speaker 2: I'll take Florida for the.
Speaker 3: Win, to win it, win it. So if Duke doesn't
Speaker 3: win it, you're off the.
Speaker 2: Hook, right, If Florida doesn't win it, nothing, Okay, I'll
Speaker 2: take Florida Florida for a while.
Speaker 4: I I you know, I I saw Florida right they were.
Speaker 4: They were at my regional. They're good and and I
Speaker 4: thought when I saw them on Thursday, they shouldn't have
Speaker 4: won that game.
Speaker 3: They they the Thursday game.
Speaker 2: The Thursday game, didn't they play close and they had
Speaker 2: to come back and play they played to somebody, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I got close on them. No, no, no, no, the
Speaker 2: Thursday game was I think it might have been Texas.
Speaker 2: They played Texas Tech in the in the regional final.
Speaker 2: Who was the second Who's the Who's the other team.
Speaker 2: They struggled Texas Tech. I think it was well they
Speaker 2: they were, they were up big and then it got close.
Speaker 2: It's what happened Maryland Maryland. Yeah, yeah, they yeah, they were.
Speaker 4: They were handling Maryland really well and then got close
Speaker 4: at the end. Uh As I recall they they played
Speaker 4: a different kind of basketball. Then I saw, you know, Michael,
Speaker 4: they I called it manball.
Speaker 3: They were Florida. They you know, the physical big.
Speaker 4: Dudes even there, even there, even the Clayton kid is
Speaker 4: that you know, he's a physical, physical kid, the way
Speaker 4: he plays, quick, shoot, all that stuff in the In
Speaker 4: the first ten minutes of the Florida Maryland game, I
Speaker 4: thought they're winning the regional. I was surprised when they
Speaker 4: were behind by ten with three minutes left against Texas Tech,
Speaker 4: and I was kind of rooting for Texas Tech, you know,
Speaker 4: sure the conference. You know, when I saw him come
Speaker 4: back and I thought, okay, this is a national championship
Speaker 4: caliber team. I just think Duke is better. Okay, So no,
Speaker 4: that's about. We're gonna make the book, make the what
Speaker 4: it's worth.
Speaker 3: What are we betting?
Speaker 2: Well, you throw something at me, you know, I'm always
Speaker 2: up food Okay, we'll do food.
Speaker 3: We'll do food.
Speaker 2: Uh food next Friday or whatever Friday.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm in, Okay, I'm in, Okay. Duke has to win,
Speaker 3: win or Florida has to win if they don't and
Speaker 3: they're not side, so they can get into the championship.
Speaker 3: I like Florida.
Speaker 2: I bet them in January sowth did you Yeah, Well
Speaker 2: I got good odds. I really like the Clayton. That
Speaker 2: Clayton kid's fantastic. There is one on the needs a
Speaker 2: Clayton kid, because he's better than than Caleb at least more.
Speaker 4: Consistent, right, I mean yeah, some of some of the
Speaker 4: shots he took were just like he's such a quick
Speaker 4: release when he when he gets the top of the key.
Speaker 4: And you know, he was and he was a kid
Speaker 4: that I met him in the in the breakout room
Speaker 4: on the Friday, really good kid. You know, we chatted
Speaker 4: for a few minutes before reporters and stuff got there,
Speaker 4: and you know, again not full of himself, at least
Speaker 4: he didn't appear right. Whether he is or isn't, I
Speaker 4: don't know for sure, but in talking about you know,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean somebody I gave him a loaded
Speaker 4: question for him to be able to say I'm really
Speaker 4: damn good, and he didn't. He just said, you know,
Speaker 4: talked about the team and all those kinds of things.
Speaker 4: And he's really and he's taller than I thought.
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, he walked well, you know, see
Speaker 2: him on the court, and he with when he's with
Speaker 2: all the other tall guys, he doesn't look big.
Speaker 4: He's he's six three, I think, And so it was, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, I like meeting him, and he seemed to
Speaker 4: have a good level head on his shoulders. And so
Speaker 4: that's why I think they've got a chance. But I
Speaker 4: still think that nobody's got a Cooper Flag. Yeah, no,
Speaker 4: I totally agree with you. He just was named the
Speaker 4: EP Player of the Player of the Year, and you
Speaker 4: know what's that. And he's so simple good.
Speaker 2: He does everything so well and he's not a flashy dude,
Speaker 2: but he gets everything done. Just you know, we've seen him.
Speaker 21: You know.
Speaker 4: They had an interesting question this morning on Dan Patrick
Speaker 4: saying who what one and done? Okay, one and Done
Speaker 4: has had a better one year than Cooper Flag and
Speaker 4: the only one they should come up with that was
Speaker 4: Carmelo Carmelo Anthony because he won an aational championship. He
Speaker 4: had the numbers, you know, they they threw out Anthony
Speaker 4: Davis as a possibility.
Speaker 2: And then there was Derreck Rose, although he didn't win
Speaker 2: a championship. But that's the kind of year that Cooper
Speaker 2: Flag is having. Sure and Carmelo that team he's won
Speaker 2: the national championship, So it'll be it'll be interesting to see,
Speaker 2: you know, if he pulls it off where he ranks
Speaker 2: as far as that goes. So just a change in plans.
Speaker 2: Josh is on the phone with me or texting me,
Speaker 2: or we'll move him to four o'clock so you won't
Speaker 2: have to worry about breaking news in depend us afterwards,
Speaker 2: maybe we'll just talk. But so four o'clock for Josh.
Speaker 2: He's got a meeting at for fifteen right right after this,
Speaker 2: about thirteen twelve minutes.
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, But you know, so I thought that was
Speaker 3: an interesting conversation.
Speaker 4: And you know, I couldn't think of anybody, but you know,
Speaker 4: and there weren't one and Dons as we were growing
Speaker 4: up and stuff. I mean, I would say that probably
Speaker 4: both Bill Walton and Louel Cinder slash Creem Abdul Jabbar
Speaker 4: were better players than Cooper flag as freshmen.
Speaker 3: But they didn't get to go you know any sure, well.
Speaker 4: Even Lewison even they he didn't even play varsity as
Speaker 4: a freshman right his sophomore year.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question. I mean you could talk
Speaker 2: about the guys you get with. Yeah, we'll got a call.
Speaker 3: Cool. Hello, you're on the air, nine on the ball.
Speaker 3: Who's this? Okay?
Speaker 24: I got a break in the action here, buckerbroo, go
Speaker 24: ahead first ask you know you got it. I've been
Speaker 24: good at UMLB and now you've got Eric Harper over there.
Speaker 3: What's what do you know?
Speaker 2: Eric?
Speaker 3: Do you remember Eric? I know of him? Okay, so
Speaker 3: what's his title over there?
Speaker 24: Well, he's the a D now but Jim iven Good
Speaker 24: pulled him on over there and then but he was
Speaker 24: the director of operations for Mike Stokes a football oh
Speaker 24: five years.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that was his connection, that he was
Speaker 2: the DAN And you're talking you're talking about Jim was there.
Speaker 3: Like ten twelve years ago, right, I don't know, he
Speaker 3: was there quite a while. Oh, totally makes sense, totally
Speaker 3: makes sense.
Speaker 24: But yeah, but Eric is a very smart man. He's
Speaker 24: a very good administration he knows his business, and I
Speaker 24: think it was a great job for him to, you know,
Speaker 24: talk to Josh and bring him in. With respect to
Speaker 24: mister Flagg, I can't argue a point anything's been said.
Speaker 24: I mean, he sees the whole court. He's not just
Speaker 24: an athletically gifted young man, but he really understands the
Speaker 24: game as a whole. And you know, people probably compare
Speaker 24: him to Larry Bird, which I think would be a
Speaker 24: great compliment for him. Yeah, but I am really hoping
Speaker 24: Houston can shut him down, keep him down to twenty points.
Speaker 24: And one thing about Houston, I'm really pulling. I love
Speaker 24: Calvin Samson, always have. I still pulled the Florida to
Speaker 24: win it all. But in my heart of hearts, I
Speaker 24: would love to see Calvin Samson and Houston win this thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one one before he retires right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, if you remember back in the day, Kelvin
Speaker 2: was pretty popular down here.
Speaker 3: He was when you bought Washington State, and you know,
Speaker 3: he looked Indiana, you know, so the man.
Speaker 24: The man has more than paid his dues. But he's
Speaker 24: just a genuinely likable man and I've mad him a
Speaker 24: couple of times when he was at Washington State and
Speaker 24: coming down here very gracious. I'm really pulling for him,
Speaker 24: and I'm I would love to see him and his
Speaker 24: team pull this one out. But Duke by far has
Speaker 24: more talent than the other three teams, no doubt. Okay,
Speaker 24: do you guys have a good weekend.
Speaker 2: I'm pulling for Calvin as well, but I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think since I don't think I think they
Speaker 2: can they will. I don't think Houston's got the offense.
Speaker 3: That that it's going to do to be but they
Speaker 3: have the defense to stop them, and that's just it.
Speaker 4: I don't know that anybody's got the defense to stop them.
Speaker 4: I'm rooting for Calvin. I want him to win it.
Speaker 3: I really do so that way that you know we're
Speaker 3: both going to be out of it on Saturday, Florida.
Speaker 2: The Gators come out. I think it poetic justice Florida.
Speaker 2: I want to but if you remember at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the year, ther coach was under a fire for
Speaker 2: whatever he was doing or not doing. Uh a d
Speaker 2: It was just a mess, and you know where they
Speaker 2: are in the final four. I just don't rut for
Speaker 2: Florida and anything because you just you just don't because
Speaker 2: they're Florida.
Speaker 4: You know, they won a couple of football championships. They
Speaker 4: want a couple of basketball championships, and they kind of
Speaker 4: believe that they're, you.
Speaker 2: Know, so great inclined. You haven't been around long enough.
Speaker 2: Mister Gonzales is a bitter, bigger man. I hold drudges,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: I kind of like that. Ray, this could be I'll
Speaker 3: take you, I'll take you under my wing. Ray, Well,
Speaker 3: we'll teach you. We'll teach you the art of the grudge.
Speaker 22: I'll believe me, man, I've had some sports grudges over
Speaker 22: my lifetime, for sure.
Speaker 3: I have all kinds. Yeah, I have all kinds. Some
Speaker 3: are really good too. But I don't know. I just
Speaker 3: this is what, you know what.
Speaker 4: It's one of those programs that you feel like they
Speaker 4: win all the time, and so you root against them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they have it at least football, they have
Speaker 3: it right. Yeah, that school.
Speaker 2: It's been a while, Yeah, it's been a while. For
Speaker 2: last time we saw them. I remember thirty four. They
Speaker 2: were the same final four with Duke Arizona, Arkansas and whoever.
Speaker 2: I remember Long Kruger being the coaching that's they were
Speaker 2: in that final four. Yeah, I had no recollection of that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that was thirty one. Because it's been so long,
Speaker 2: it was very rarely in the final fours.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I guess I shouldn't expect anything to change. I really shouldn't.
Speaker 3: I really shouldn't in fourteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, right so okay. Uh and then the other
Speaker 2: team was Auburn. They played them three times already. I
Speaker 2: think we got admit it, we got a minute, okay,
Speaker 2: so we got to take this break because we got
Speaker 2: to get away.
Speaker 3: And that's the other thing. I'm just I just don't
Speaker 3: want the SEC to win it. Yeah, that's to prove them.
Speaker 3: Yeah see, yeah, but I have I know, I really like,
Speaker 3: I respect the fact that you put some mind out
Speaker 3: and so you're still rooting for him. Houston. I really
Speaker 3: like Houston. I think they're going to beat Duke. I
Speaker 3: really do. Really. Do you think Duke doesn't even get
Speaker 3: to the finals?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, In fact, I think everybody fell in love with
Speaker 2: Duke because of what they saw in this tournament, but
Speaker 2: they didn't see them up until the tournament, right, Uh,
Speaker 2: So everybody has this one their Duke. You already give
Speaker 2: them that bias. And then they played out of their
Speaker 2: mind here, which is obviously because they are good. But
Speaker 2: then you give them that extra juice because they're Duke
Speaker 2: and you've seen them recently.
Speaker 3: Bias. Does that make sense. I should have won my
Speaker 3: Duke T shirt in here today. Oh yeah, because you're
Speaker 3: a student, Bias. I'm gonna wear that on Saturday. Okay,
Speaker 3: please please put a little money on him too. That
Speaker 3: will really kill what happened. J been on us. Yes,
Speaker 3: we gotta go.