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Speaker 2: I gotta come off the pitch now.

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Speaker 1: Here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.

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Speaker 3: What up y'all?

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Speaker 2: Gin you're and it Tony.

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Speaker 4: Uh all right, let's go ahead then and dive straight

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in to the playoffs as we are kicking off five

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days of playoffs here. As we said, a final four

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that features four teams that are traditionally great but have

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not been great as of late. And it starts tonight

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with Penn State in Notre Dame, and I mean again,

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just think about the brands here. Penn State eighth all

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time in wins for college football, Notre Dame fourth all

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time in wins. Interestingly, these are two teams that used

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to play each other quite a bit. The all time

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series and what is narratively perfect here?

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Speaker 2: I love this so much.

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Speaker 4: The all time series is nine nine and one, so

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a perfect even nine wins and nine losses and even

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a tie on top for these two teams, whoever wins

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will not just gain the advantage of the all time series,

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but we'll move on to play for national championship. Both

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teams for the first national championship in over thirty years.

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And when I'm about to say here, you some of

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your are gonna be like, right, that's matter, get like

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angry about it, but like ask yourself why you're angry

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about this, because it's crazy for that. But both teams

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led by black head coaches. And despite college football being

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a sport and what's the majority of the labor's always

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been black, there has never been a black head coach

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that has won a football national championship. So one of

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these men is going to get an opportunity, and I

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think that's great.

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Speaker 2: I think that's very cool. I think repsentation matters.

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Speaker 4: I think if you don't think it matters, and ask

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yourself why you love Riley.

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Speaker 2: Moss so much.

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Speaker 4: You know, because it's white corner and you never see it,

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and you think it's awesome because you never see it,

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, same thing here.

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Speaker 4: What's interesting about these playoffs is I would say the

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theme of the playoffs in kind of a a in

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a rejection of modern football as we have known it

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as of late. The theme is not quarterback. This playoff season,

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it's not offense. It has been defense and running the ball.

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Notre Dame, I mean, my god, these are two teams

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that are defined by defense and running the ball. I mean,

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for Penn State, you have Singleton and Allen, very good

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running back combo where both guys are nearly averaging seven

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yards of carry. You have Drew Aller, who's kind of

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like a worst Josh Allen type, which is funny, he's

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better than Josh Allen. Was in college, right, but he's

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not like he's not nearly as effective as a passer

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as of yet, but he's giant. He can use his

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arm well, he can run it well. Also, not as

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good as Ry Leonard. So so that's a pen State

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for Notre Dame. You have Jeremiah Love, you have Price,

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you have Ry Leonard, who, as we've seen, running is

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his best ability. He could throw it enough when you

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need him to. But ultimately Mike Denbrock has made this

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offense effective with the legs of Riley Leonard. It's how

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they were able to do enough to close out Georgia

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last week. And then you get into the defenses and

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there's just superstars and draft picks all over the place.

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defensive backfield, where at every single level these two defenses

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Speaker 2: It's potentially the thing that could hold.

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame back more than anything is it looks like

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Penn State will have Abdull Carter. If you don't know

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who that is, that is the Big Ten defensive player

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of the Year twenty two tipfles eleven sacks. He is

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an incredible player. Unfortunately, four Notre Dame their best at

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Rusher Riley Mills. They lost against Indiana Hell they lost

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their best corner, probably the best quarterback in the entire

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country halfway through this football season, and yet here they are.

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Notre Dame is dealing with injury, and unfortunately for Notre Dame,

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they ended up with two less days of preparation and

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recovery versus Penn State. Now, they still got a full week,

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which is not bad because you can hit the rhythm

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of a normal game week, but because that game was

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delayed because of the tragedy in New Orleans and because

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of just how the schedule worked, Penn State's gonna come

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off of a full nine days of rest verse seven

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for that of Notre Dame. Could be interesting to see

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if that comes into play. I think one of the

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key questions when you look at this game that you

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have to ask is how much do the quarterbacks actually matter?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 4: And it doesn't feel too dissimilar from how I felt

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about Notre Dame and Uga playing last week with gunners

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Doctor and Ryan Leonard Like, obviously, the quarterbacks are big

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elements the same way they were in that game. But

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that their team won or lost the game. Like the

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main driving force of the outcome, It is the defense

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in both of these regards, Now, which quarterback can manage

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to have enough success against it? Even there in lies

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the question one separation point that it feels like on

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paper that I think Penn State has here would be

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Tyler Warren the tight end. I don't think Notre Dame

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has anybody like. Okay, they've got Love and Price to

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kind of counter Singleton and Allen. I'm fine with Leonard

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countering Drew Aller. I don't know that you have a

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playmaker like Penn State doesn't Tyler Ward. But herein lies

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what I think is the most confusing part about this game.

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they have the clear advantages. As I just said, I

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believe them to be basically as talented as Notre Dame,

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only I think they have more of their superstars still available.

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a more complete quarterback than that of Riley Leonard. But

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the playoffs this far. I mean, beating SMU sure, you

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the beginning of the game, and you were just markedly bigger, stronger,

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and faster s of you the worst team in this field.

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but the game was a bit closer than you would think.

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for being twenty four to twenty one late. And then

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who's maybe looked the best out of anybody in the

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playoffs safe for Ahio State offense, but a Nur Dame

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team that has the two most impressive wins. I mean,

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you beat Indiana in a way that only Ohio State

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beat Indiana Lite.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't ever play anybody well. Look at Indiana Michigan.

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Speaker 4: It's a Michigan team that was playing very well by

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the end of the year, Michigan team that beat Ohouse,

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State of Michigan team that were going to beat Alabama. Well,

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just a couple weeks before those games, they played Indiana

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and Indiana won. Also, we learned the other day did

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you know this about Curtis rurt played the entire season

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on the tourn acl thumb on his throwing finger shattered.

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Speaker 2: He was putting it all out.

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Speaker 4: But the point of it is that Indiana team, I

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think is a bit better than what people think, and

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Notre Dame made them.

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Speaker 2: Look absolutely pedestrian.

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Speaker 4: Then they took down the SEC champion Georgia Bulldogs by

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a wide margin and made them look pedestrian. And look,

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if Carson Beck plays, I think that's a closer game.

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I still think Notre Dame wins because, as I said,

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this Not Dame team is incredibly talented, even post injury.

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Notre Dame's put the better games on tape, beating the

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better opponent. It's by more impressive margins. But Penn State

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on paper looks better and has superstars than maybe Notre

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Speaker 2: Coaching advantage tough to say.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Marcus Freeman simply because we've seen

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James Frankin kind of struggle in these spots, and because

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I think that Marcus Freeman, for as much as you

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to Marshall, whatever, this is only his third year on

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the job, guys, and it has been a consistent climb.

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have ten men on the field against Ohio State, they

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run where your guy is missing. You still almost stop them,

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but you don't to go from one of the most

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major coaching gaffes I've ever seen there to then pulling

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the galaxy brained full eleven man substitution on fourth and

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one against Georgia to get the first down, take five

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more minutes.

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Speaker 2: Eventually off of the clock. That's growth, and then speaks

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to a man who is on the rise.

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Speaker 4: So despite the fact that I think Notre Penn State

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looks better on paper, I think Notre Dame wins this game.

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I'm just going cut feeling now to be fair. Last time,

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when cut feeling was I said Oregon was gonna be

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a ho state. So maybe I'm completely wrong here, right,

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weird but sexy, old school defense, run the ball sort

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of matchup. Would y'all like to add any thoughts before

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Speaker 5: I think Notre Dame wins this game as well. I'm

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forth on it, and if it comes down to having

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to make a throw, I do favor Penn State in

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that game.

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Speaker 3: Drew Allery has been so good.

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Speaker 5: But see Buba, I'm glad you mentioned Notre Dame has

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just looked like the better team so far in the playoffs.

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Penn State also played SMU and Boise State. Notre Dame

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played Indiana and Georgia looked really good. I heard a

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stat this morning driving in Notre Dame after beating Indiana,

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and Georgia has eight top twenty five wins this year.

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That's more than any game in the college football playoffs.

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So yeah, I get it. They lost to Northern Nillan early.

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Marcus Freeman's only big games last year, he kind of

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faltered a little bit. We know about the ten men

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on the field two plays in a row against Ohio State,

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but he's completely flipped that this year. I trust Marcus Freeman,

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as young as he is, to win this game more

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than James Franklin. I get it. Both teams are so similar.

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Penn State's defense is really good. But I don't know,

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it's just something about this Notre Dame team, and I'm

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kind of feeling it.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's just kind of like a vibe check.

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Speaker 5: It's just I think that that Notre Dame, what they've

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I trust them one.

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Speaker 4: I think they may have the best defense in the

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entire tournament. Zimmer Texas Noah, No, I think they're better

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than Texas. I got major questions about Texas after what

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they allowed Kate Club nicking those fresh and wide receivers

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to do them too, that's the I agree. I agree,

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But Notre Dame doesn't turn the ball over. Yeah, I

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think Ryan Leonard has done a very good job of

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after Alan. I think Notre Dame has the best defense,

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and I think that they have an offense that knows himself, uh,

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for whatever that is worth. So I'm kind of with

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you in the vibe check. Will y'all allow me a

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little room to repeat a very uncouth joke that I heard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in some ways, so I think Notre Dame takes

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this one. I don't love this. I don't like this

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at all. I don't because we all picked that. Yeah,

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because we all picked that.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's what Taylor said though, Like after that win

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over Georgia, it just feels like they're the better team.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, and I get it.

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Speaker 5: You can look at the final score and say, oh, well,

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Indiana was at ten point game. That game was twenty

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four to three late in the third quarter, like that.

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Speaker 3: Was No, yeah, well that was that was not a game.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't close. It wasn't close. Uh.

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Speaker 6: They had a tougher path than Penn State.

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Speaker 2: No, they definitely did.

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Speaker 4: But that sees such what I'm saying though, right, Like,

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because what they've done. But also they've gone through a

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tougher path and they have two days less from which

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are covered, so they're like, there's a lot more and

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more injured. There's a lot working inst Notre Dame here.

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But I'm I think we're all we're all saying the

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same thing. We agree we're feeling, we're feeling the same thing.

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Speaker 5: Any anytime there's a game that I think is gonna

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come down to the wire, I kind of sit there

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and I'm like, if there's a blowout, which team do

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Speaker 3: And I could.

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Speaker 5: I could see a Notre Dame blowout more than the

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Penn State blowout just because of the way Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: Playing, so that that's ultimately why I pick them. I

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don't think that's going to happen.

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Speaker 5: I don't think these teams are really really similar, but

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that's just that's how I see it.

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Speaker 4: So somebody mentioned Catholics versus Convicts. This game in many

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ways could be considered, Uh, pedophiles versus pedophiles could be yep,

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I could. I know, I know, okay, okay, I know

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you're going to get mad. Some of you'all gonna get mad.

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Speaker 2: But that's that's funny. Okay.

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Speaker 4: That that that that is dark, darkly funny. Don't get

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mad about it. Just chuckle and move on or change

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the channel if you don't like it. Did you see

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the shirts? So people are pretty sure to say petosor's

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petos with the uh with the colors.

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Speaker 2: Of the of the schools.

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Anyway, uh, Derek says, I really can't believe you're positive

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talking Notre Dame. I mean, I'm not cheering for anyone here.

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I'm trying to give objective analysis of how i feel

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about the game.

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Speaker 2: Also, I don't hate. I don't hate Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: See I do.

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Speaker 5: I Openn State crushes them in this game. I just

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don't think they will.

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Speaker 7: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate Notre Dame.

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Speaker 4: I uh like, it's not Notre Dame's fault that Brian

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Kelly hasn't done what you wanted him to do the

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first three years here. You know, I don't care their

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media wants to talk crap, their fans to talk I

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I I don't care. I just need Brian Kelly and

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Elis you to beat Clipson. Like I'm already thinking about it.

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I've already been talking about it. I was on with

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that SEC podcast, my guy SEC Mike yesterday, And that's

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another stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: That is the.

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Speaker 4: Bottom line, number one with the bullet goal for the

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entirety of this LSU football program is beat Clemson. Literally,

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nothing else matters. Nothing else matters if you lose to

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Clemson to start next season, which again I just mentioned

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Kate Klubnick and those freshman receivers, they're gonna be very good.

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You're going into their death valley if you lose to

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Clemson to start the year. Next year, you want to

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talk about a disaster, throw your hands up.

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Speaker 2: Oh crap, here we go again. I mean, that's that.

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Speaker 4: Daniel Bluntz's teap episodes, a long dramatic pause that I'm

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assuming I'm having streaming trouble.

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Speaker 2: You know what it honestly is. There's a.

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Speaker 4: Streamer that I really like. It's got Josh Streife Hayes.

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He does a lot of MMO content.

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Speaker 2: He's great whatever. He's an Englishman with a beautiful voice.

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But he was talking about publics speaking and.

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Speaker 4: Ums and ohs and how he forced himself to take

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them out of it. And it's okay to pause and

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collect your thought rather than to use a filler word

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like like or U or uh or you know. And

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so I'm trying to be much more cognizant of the

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ms and the odds. But what that is leading to

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are some pauses where I'm trying to collect my thoughts

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instead of filling it with uh.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. When we get back. That's uh.

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Speaker 4: The game tonight coming up on Friday. We got Texas

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Speaker 1: Welcome in to the best morning sports. This show around

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off the bench with Hester and T Bob can sleep.

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Speaker 8: We don't know the stammesepiso. A little down drivels.

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Speaker 2: Get a lightningingle so you can sleep.

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Speaker 8: We don't know the stammesepis, so I can't really to

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desperation mikes it our own vacation and I got the

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spoon boy, anyone stop calling when I walk this way

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and oh God, so bad ex don't do for your watching,

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I'm knowing nothing to something affee root for your don't

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touch enough brand for your nice thinking about me, my

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hose that's sweet like your sol.

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Speaker 1: So you can sleep.

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Speaker 5: We don't know Stammes episode.

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Speaker 2: Shut up the brain heard Barry Keegan broke up though, right,

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I believe so, my brother.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna cry that it's over. I'm just gonna smile.

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That's such a hot couple.

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Speaker 5: Ever happened?

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Speaker 6: Is he hot?

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Speaker 4: I think if you were to, I think you would

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look at pictures of him and think, wow, he's a

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little androdging his I feel like if you saw him

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in real life you would probably be a bit and

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source old type. Yes, without a doubt, without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: So did you ever did you watch else?

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna land Sabrina? You know you ain't. Just

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half step in.

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Speaker 3: And you'll know why. T Bob Blake spirit cute?

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Speaker 2: I mean he is, he's he's got well.

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Speaker 4: First of you got either got the very blue eyes,

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good body or whatever. So here's what I was alluding

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to the n hour one when I bungled Hi but

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tonight inviting everybody to join me at the Cavalier Cavalier

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for years. We filmed a show called The Night Shift.

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It was very fun. Unfortunately the finale episode, which was incredible,

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got deleted. I don't want to talk about it. It's awful,

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bums me out, makes me sick to my stomach.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 4: But one of my partners on the Night Shift, somebody

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who I traveled and ventured with for years, is Lindsay Duga.

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Speaker 2: Lindsay do you guys?

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Speaker 4: Also a young adult author and she has her brand

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new book that just came out yesterday and it is

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called Royal Airs Academy it's great all I mean, I've

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been ready.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to pick it up tonight and go read it.

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But the premise is.

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Speaker 4: A bunch of like, you know, it's kind of like,

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it's kind of a bit hogwartsy, a bunch of young

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royals at a school together going in to this competition.

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Speaker 2: Whoever wins, I think wins the Kingdom.

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Speaker 2: It's fantastic. What are you giggling about?

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Speaker 6: No, sorry, it's just a comment. Barry Keegan looks like

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looks sick with aids M.

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Speaker 2: I think I don't think that's agriate.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's quite skinny enough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's pretty jacked. I think I think he

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more just he more just looks a little alien. He

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looks a little androgynist, a little disconcerted.

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Speaker 2: He dresses that way too.

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Speaker 4: He's got like a little bit of like uh Willem

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Dafoe as some of the androgyny like and France McDermot

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are actually the same people.

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Speaker 6: I have a crush on Willem Dafoe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so, like like you have the crush.

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Speaker 5: On Wilhemdafoe, but he's not like like not everybody.

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Speaker 3: Would, you know what I mean. I guess that's what

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 4: What I'm mainly saying about Barry is that I just

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believe that if you were to see him in real life,

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that there would just be a that he would. I

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think he would 'ensorcell men and and Women, one of

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one of those Aura.

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Speaker 2: Type of deals.

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Speaker 3: What's time you gonna be a Keviller?

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Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna get there on six because I

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got to get the girls home from dance first.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, come on out doing me a good time.

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Speaker 4: If I've read Kiss by the Royal, Kiss by Royal

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one of Lindsay's other books, very good, very fun, but

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I'm especially excited for this one.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 4: I love a magic school, you know, I love a

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fantasy school ever since Hogwarts, King Killer Chronicles has it

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as well, my favorite fantasy I've ever read as an adult,

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So I'm really good forward to it. But if you

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got like a teen daughter or something, like that. They

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could be really into this. Go check it out. All right,

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let's get into Texas Ohio State, and again, speaking of brands,

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are you.

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Speaker 2: Kidding me here?

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Speaker 4: These are two teams that are top five all time

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in wins. These are two teams that started in the

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top four this season, and here we are there.

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Speaker 2: In the final four.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: What I find to be interesting is despite these two

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teams being so successful throughout the history of the sport,

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they've only played each other three times, only Texas and

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Ohio State. So this is only four times love matching up.

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And well, the other three times they played were all

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very big deals. In five so five was six. They

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did a home and home in five Vince Young won

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in Columbus before going on to win national championship. In six,

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Texas won excuse me clip it and six Ohio State

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one in Austin before going.

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Speaker 2: On to lose international championship.

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Speaker 4: The next time and last time they would play was

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the eight FS The Bowl, in which Colt McCoy through

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a game winning touchdown with just sixteen seconds left in

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an instant classic. So when they've matched up, there have

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been fireworks and there have been major results produced, and

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this should be no different as from a pure talent perspective,

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these are the two most talented teams left in this playoff,

475
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And when you think about the theme of this playoffs,

476
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defense and running the ball, Ohio State is maybe the

477
00:24:28,319 --> 00:24:32,319
outlier here because when you look at their ability to throw,

478
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:35,240
the weapons that they have in Jeremiah Smith and Ameca

479
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:37,240
Buka and then those two running backs and everybody else

480
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:40,240
on the team, they have weapons that are not represented

481
00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:43,359
anywhere else in the Final four. And in fact, they

482
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are the only team that doesn't want to run two

483
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,440
set up the pass. They want to pass to set

484
00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:49,720
up the run. And so it begs the question is

485
00:24:49,759 --> 00:24:52,640
will Howard actually the biggest key to the entirety of

486
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,319
this playoff? And although it takes on Howard have been

487
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,799
varied at times this year, I myself have waffled back

488
00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:03,960
and forth. He's truly only had one bad game. He

489
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,799
is clearly and objectively the best quarterback left in the playoff.

490
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:12,000
Through two playoff games in which he played, they played

491
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what were supposed to be the best teams or the

492
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best matchups for that round. In terms of tennessee a

493
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two loss SEC team to get two lost Big ten

494
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team and then Oregon many people treat as a de

495
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facto championship, and they absolutely dominated both. Why Will Howard

496
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,839
hasn't been sacked? And against Tennessee Will Howard completes eighty

497
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,680
two percent of his passes three to eleven through the air,

498
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,440
ten point seven yards per a tempt, two touchdowns, one pick.

499
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,119
Against ore again seventeen to twenty six three nineteen a

500
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mind boggling twelve point three yards per attempt, three touchdowns,

501
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:53,880
no picks. And in Jeremiah Smith, you have a player

502
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that Dan Rolovski said if he came out today he

503
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would be the number one overall pick, who through two

504
00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:04,640
games has thirteen catches, two hundred and niney yards, four touchdowns.

505
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I mean, you are talking about a Megatron level player here,

506
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:15,920
Julio Jones, whoever you want to say, that's Jeremiah Smith. Now,

507
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,079
this is where this game becomes interesting because, as Taylor

508
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,720
was alluding to, this Texas secondary is the most talented

509
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,039
one that Ohio State will have faced all year long,

510
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and so in theory, they should be best suited to

511
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,880
dealing or challenging Smith in these weapons. And if you

512
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,359
can slow down the passing attack, well, Ohio State has

513
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struggled when they have to stand and bang and try

514
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,720
to run the ball in a more traditional sense. Again,

515
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:47,559
they want to throw to unlock the run, whereas a

516
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:49,519
team like Texas and everybody else in the playoff wants

517
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to run to unlock play action and unlock the pass.

518
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So it's an elite Texas secondary. But they haven face

519
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nobody like this, and I am a bit concerned about

520
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,319
some of the success I saw Clemson and those receivers

521
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:05,079
had a couple of games ago. Because Jeremiah Smith is

522
00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:11,599
the final boss. So that's a matchup to watch texagarry

523
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,039
against Ohio State's weapons. I'll take Ohio States weapons just

524
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:15,720
because I can't get away from out dominant they've looked

525
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,839
thus far. But the other matchup comes back once again

526
00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:21,400
to can Texas run the ball? And that's the problem

527
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,960
with Texas. They're a great team. They are a great team,

528
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:30,839
and they are dominant and nearly every since except for

529
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,079
running the ball run game efficiency. Now, it's not they're

530
00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:36,079
bad at running the ball. In fact, most teams can't

531
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:40,480
stop them. But if you can, they get into trouble.

532
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:43,559
Look at the three games in which they lost or

533
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,680
got into trouble. Two games against Georgia and which Georgia

534
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,720
completely shut down the run to the two of less

535
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,880
than two yards of carry and then it gets Arizona

536
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,599
State less than two yards a carry. And so that's

537
00:27:57,599 --> 00:27:59,359
what I was sitting as to dude, it's very clear now,

538
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,920
how State, it's a bit interesting they have. You know,

539
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,960
they're like fifth and kind of traditional run defense. But

540
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then if you look at like analytics, they're more maybe

541
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in like fifteen to twenty range. So they're good, maybe

542
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:10,799
not the most elite of the elite, but if they stop.

543
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,680
If you can stop Jayden Blue, you can stop Wiser.

544
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,640
For Texas, you put the game into Quinn, youew Wever's hands,

545
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:23,279
he will struggle a bit. So unfortunately for your long

546
00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:27,000
Horns laundry, I think that's how it plays out. I

547
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,279
think Texas doesn't have the success on the ground they need.

548
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,599
I think that ultimately, in a battle of good on good,

549
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,799
the Ohio State weapons win, and I think Will Howard

550
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and the Buck guys carry the day into the national

551
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championship as Ryan Day continues his Paula trades, navigating of

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the one path that can save him when we get back.

553
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Got Jake Hester now and I'll let you guys waiting

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down the game as well. Keep it locked right here on.

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Speaker 1: See you, welcome back to the best morning sports show

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around sort of. It's off the bench with Hester and

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t Bob.

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Speaker 7: We just can't it's done. It don't just it.

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Speaker 4: Quarterback guy Jake Kester check it in live from the

584
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Cotton Bowl. Jake's up, man, what's going on down there

585
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in Deetown?

586
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Speaker 7: How we doing?

587
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Speaker 9: Everything's okay right now? Got some you know, some ice

588
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ish type stuff on the ground, so nothing like snow

589
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or anything just yet. So hopefully that's all that it

590
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does and it stays that way and doesn't turn into

591
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what maybe they're fearing it's going to, which is a

592
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bunch of the stuff that we don't want on the ground.

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Speaker 4: All right, Jake, So we we we were just discussing

594
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Texas Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: You were covering Texas Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you've done anything yet in that regard.

597
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,559
What are your thoughts on Friday night's game.

598
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we did a couple things early this morning. We'll

599
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continue that. We'll have a full show eleven to two,

600
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,599
I believe today and get a chance hopefully to speak

601
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to some of the players and coaches after that. I

602
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:24,759
was kind of listening to you, and look, there's there's

603
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:26,480
a lot of ways that Ohio State I think can

604
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,160
win this game, but there's only a few how Texas

605
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,119
can win this game. So Texas certainly has to play

606
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,519
their style of game. Their stars have to be stars.

607
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,480
Their defensive backs who have been really good all season long.

608
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I mean, you've even got the thorpe winder over there.

609
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They've got to play their best game. It is going

610
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to be a challenge. And there's a lot of good

611
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,200
with like quinn Ewers, Like we've talked about eighty five

612
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,279
percent of the time he's really really good. It's that

613
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,079
fifteen percent of the time that he kind of just

614
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,519
he disappears or he makes a bad play. And same thing,

615
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,480
you know for this offense in general. He did it

616
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against their on a state. They've kind of done it

617
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,720
in a lot of big games this year, and they

618
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:06,000
can't have that. They just they cannot have that, not

619
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with the way Ohio State's playing right now. So if

620
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you're playing, you know, the Texas defense, how do you

621
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,200
attack Ohio State? Do you say, hey, we're going to

622
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,400
take away Jeremiah Smith, or we're gonna try to slow

623
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,839
him down. I'm not sure that you can take him

624
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:21,440
away right now, but if you do that, like that

625
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,839
two headed monster running back, that can make you pay.

626
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,759
If you try to take away the run, Jeremia Smith

627
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:27,960
can beat you over the top. Now, I will say

628
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,920
this for Texas, mentioning those three defensive backs that they have,

629
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They've got probably the best opportunity to try to single

630
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,519
up Jeremiah Smith if they wanted to try to stop

631
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:42,359
the run first, or maybe they can single him up

632
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:44,400
a little bit with maybe some help at times.

633
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 7: I mean, they have the athletes to do it.

634
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,519
Speaker 9: They've got first round picks in the defensive backfield and

635
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:50,519
so like how they play, this game is.

636
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 7: Going to be, you know, very important.

637
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,319
Speaker 9: And then for me, can Texas and that offense, can

638
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:57,920
they not disappear? Because again I can give you a

639
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,559
lot of ways Ohio State can win this game. I

640
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:03,240
only have a few for Texas, and Texas has to

641
00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:06,640
make sure that their stars play their best game of

642
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,000
the year.

643
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:08,359
Speaker 7: I think to be victorious.

644
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,039
Speaker 4: Landra, we haven't let you weigh in on this yet.

645
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:19,039
As our resident Texas fan with your SEC Network hat

646
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,559
on carrying the water for Greg Sankey's conference.

647
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Speaker 2: Uh, how are we feeling about today's game?

648
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 6: Shout out Kevin Wagner, who gave me this hat. He's

649
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:38,480
super nice for that saying I'm carrying water for great.

650
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Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying that, like a lot of people

651
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,359
are saying, Texas is the hope for the SEC here down.

652
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: I never said that.

653
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 9: So you're putting words in saying it's factual they're the

654
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,680
only team left.

655
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,039
Speaker 2: See's exactly there you go.

656
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I never said that.

657
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:54,599
Speaker 2: It is true, but I never said it. Okay, Okay,

658
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,279
well let's.

659
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 4: Let's not get we're getting we're getting distracted by the

660
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by the I just noticed you had.

661
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,319
Speaker 6: Okay, So I don't think I can really add more

662
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:07,759
to the conversation that y'all haven't already touched on. My

663
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:12,119
biggest worry is the run game, though, because it's been

664
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:20,239
pretty mid and Ohio State is good at stopping the run.

665
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,119
So that's where I like, my biggest concern is, and

666
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,199
y'all already touched on that. So I don't know what

667
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:26,920
more I could add.

668
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, Matthew Golden's going to get his on offense, I

669
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,679
think for Texas he has to Gunner Helm's going to

670
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,880
get his Elana's right about like who is going which

671
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,920
running back is going to be able to step up?

672
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:42,480
I mean Texas, look, they can run them. Their offensive

673
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,840
line can give them the opportunity to run the football.

674
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,800
We've seen them go for two hundred plus in this playoffs.

675
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,280
And I know Clemson is not great, you know, run defense,

676
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,840
but I mean they have the ability.

677
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 7: They've got to Jamies and Joe's to do it. You

678
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,000
know how much of it is going to be enough?

679
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,079
Speaker 9: Because I still think you have to make so many

680
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:05,239
explosive plays through the air. And look, Matthew Goldin's made

681
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,119
a ton of those, Like can Isaiah Bond give you

682
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,000
anything to you?

683
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:09,119
Speaker 6: Like?

684
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:11,599
Speaker 9: Can he show up and give you what we were

685
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:13,800
all told that he was going to give you this

686
00:35:14,119 --> 00:35:16,239
entire season? Like that's a guy Like when we talk

687
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,880
about stars, like, it doesn't mean stars that have been

688
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,519
here lately.

689
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 7: It's guys that you brought in to try to be stars.

690
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 9: So like a guy like that, can he make two

691
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,280
plays in this game and be the difference?

692
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 6: Well, you also got to there. RB One was out

693
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,800
for the season before the season even started, So this

694
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,320
isn't like their core.

695
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:37,599
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it is, but like at this point,

696
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:39,280
at this point is yeah, I mean.

697
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: They're doing what they can with what they have.

698
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 6: And also, like y'all were saying earlier, Notre Dame has

699
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,079
the best defense and Texas.

700
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Speaker 2: Is right up there with them, and.

701
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 6: Sure, I just hope that they can get after Ohio

702
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,119
State and Howard.

703
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, nobody's done it yet through two games.

704
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 4: Nobody's unable to get after zero sacks in the playoffs

705
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,719
on Will Howard.

706
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: Thus far ta ta, What is your to take on

707
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,519
this good game?

708
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: Well, first off, I think the winner of this game

709
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:11,320
is winning the national championship, because coming into the playoff,

710
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:14,199
Texas was my pick to win the whole thing. Now

711
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,000
Ohio State has completely blown me away in their two games.

712
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I think they lived by far looked like the best team.

713
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But I really do think this is going to be

714
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:23,280
a battle. You know, the more I think about that

715
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,760
Arizona State game, because we had talked about it a

716
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,960
little bit last week and everybody was like, hey, look,

717
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,639
you were outgained. They tripled your number of rushing yards

718
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:35,840
Arizona State two to fourteen, Texas only fifty three. Arizona

719
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,880
State ran ninety seven plays. Texas ran like.

720
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:42,519
Speaker 2: Texas got dominated in the bucks.

721
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then time of possession thirty seven minutes to

722
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,199
twenty two.

723
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 3: But Texas found a way to win that game.

724
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 5: I think that actually makes you a better team because

725
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:52,360
up to this point we had always talked about if

726
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,360
Texas can run the ball, they could beat anybody they play.

727
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:57,840
If they can't, they're going to struggle. They couldn't run

728
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,320
the ball. Quinn you or has found a way to

729
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,159
make plays. My only concern is that Ohio State secondary

730
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:07,079
because great dealing with Caleb down Golden's great, Home's great.

731
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,440
I just think Ohio State has more weapons. And like

732
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,920
I was critical of Will Howard coming into the season,

733
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,599
I didn't I didn't understand the move from McCord to Howard.

734
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: Howard's been phenomenal. He can run the ball as well.

735
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 5: I just think that even if you even if you

736
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,159
shut down Jeremiah Smith, you have egg Buca there, you

737
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,760
got the guys Henderson and Judkins can catch the ball

738
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,760
out of the backfield too. I mean that's that's a

739
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,320
lot of people don't point out. I just think Ohio

740
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,800
State has a little bit too many weapons.

741
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: One thing that I do think works in Texas favor

742
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,360
here or something they've been good at this year that

743
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,679
they have used to great effect to win big games,

744
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,440
and maybe it rears its head here again is Texas

745
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,920
red zone defense has been great. I think by the

746
00:37:47,039 --> 00:37:49,679
Arkansas game, very close game, what's.

747
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: Are on the road? They need a big win.

748
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,159
Speaker 4: It was a late fourth and goal stop that put

749
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,960
that game away. You think about why did you beat

750
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,920
Arizona State despite the fact that you got so statistically dominated.

751
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,280
It's because you had Arizona State come up empty in

752
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,840
the red zone so many times.

753
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,039
Speaker 2: So there is a bit of a bind. But don't break.

754
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: Element to this Texas defense where if Ohio State manages

755
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:12,599
to get down there and they can flex and bow

756
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,480
up and stop them, well maybe that's uh.

757
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: They'll have to win that again.

758
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 4: Given that it's been a string of them in big

759
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,239
moments this year, They'll have to win that again if

760
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,360
they're going to win this game.

761
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: That's a skill. I mean, being great at red zone

762
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,679
defense is a skill and something that text has been

763
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,679
good even the A and M game. Yeah, yes, true, true.

764
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,119
Speaker 4: Anythink about four to Yeah, So that's it's been it's

765
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:37,119
been a consistent theme with them to the season, something

766
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:39,159
to watch going forward. So in the end, out look,

767
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,280
I think I think Notre Dame wins, and I think

768
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,159
Ohio State wins.

769
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,119
Speaker 2: You got chick.

770
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:49,199
Speaker 7: Oh, I think I'll do the same.

771
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,079
Speaker 9: I mean, I wanted to say somebody different, so you know,

772
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,280
give a little bit of spies, we're all on Notre Dame.

773
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 4: Then that's that that that may be concern for me.

774
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:01,639
Speaker 9: I just I just saw Notre Dame in person, So

775
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,519
obviously you're gonna be maybe a little biased towards your

776
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:06,639
answer because you just saw them bully a bully that

777
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,800
never gets bullied at Georgia, and so like I'm like,

778
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,239
oh my gosh, that's really impressive.

779
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,079
Speaker 7: Riley Leonard doesn't even have to throw for one hundred

780
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:14,599
yards and they can still find a way to win.

781
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

782
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,039
Speaker 9: They you know, they just got different looking guys on

783
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,159
that defense and they've had in the past. They got

784
00:39:22,159 --> 00:39:25,639
Sunday players littered throughout and like Jeremiah Love didn't even

785
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:28,559
do anything against Georgia and they still dominated the game.

786
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,119
Speaker 7: So Penn State's got weapons.

787
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:33,679
Speaker 9: I could certainly make a case for Penn State, but yeah,

788
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:36,239
I'm gonna go Notre Dame, and I really want to

789
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,280
go to Texas because, like I before the playoff on

790
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,800
off campus, like, hey, choose three teams you think can

791
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,440
go win this deal. And I went Oregon Notre Dame

792
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:49,719
in Texas, so like I had belief in them. But

793
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,159
I think it's more about Ohio State Tea than it

794
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:54,000
is about Texas right now, Yeah, and.

795
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 4: Agree with that. I'd agree with that all right, when

796
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,559
we get back there, it is, I gotta cut him out.

797
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:03,440
When we bet back, we'll close that hour number two

798
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,599
of OTB off.

799
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: The bench, back to sports talk, maybe off the bench.

800
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,119
Speaker 4: So LSU will have thirteen early enroll leaves moved to

801
00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:24,880
ben Rouge. This weekend, we got DJ Picktt, Harlan Berry,

802
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:28,679
Dame Shanklin, Charles Ross, Toron Francis, J. D.

803
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 2: Lefier, Solomon dis missed up man.

804
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 4: They sink all the O linemen together, all those other

805
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,760
guys get their own line in the formatting of this tweet.

806
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,719
Then it's O Lineman Solomon, Tomas Cary's current Tyler Miller,

807
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,320
borderl On d Lyman Design, Williams, Brandon Brown.

808
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 7: D Battle.

809
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,159
Speaker 2: Pretty good hole.

810
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 4: There a lot of early en roll leaves who do

811
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,760
we expect will have the biggest impact immediately on this

812
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:53,840
L Shoe football team?

813
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 9: Be picky, right, I mean that that'd be the obvious answer,

814
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,559
seems I mean, yes, yessociated do just rate a player

815
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,000
kind of a position that's not you know, solidified and

816
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,280
nailed down by a bunch of veteran players.

817
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 2: Very true?

818
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 7: Very true? Do we do this?

819
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: And sorry if you're still talking, Jake actually unplugged my headphones.

820
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:17,480
Uh do we do this though?

821
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 6: Then?

822
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 4: Maybe because I agree with you for everything you said,

823
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,199
so maybe we framed this in outside of DJ Pickett,

824
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,800
who do we think will have the biggest impact?

825
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 7: Certainly?

826
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 2: I mean we've seen what freshman running backs can do.

827
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:35,159
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was about to say that position. And I'm

828
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:37,559
not trying to tell them my own position here, but

829
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:42,559
there's not a lot of overthinking that can happen at

830
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:45,239
that position certainly. Now, Like maybe back in the day

831
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,760
a little bit with pass protection, if you had like

832
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,039
a pro style offense and you had to have scan

833
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,639
protection where you got to if a backside corner's coming,

834
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,679
that's your guy, Like, you don't really see that anymore.

835
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:57,559
Speaker 7: It's like you check your will linebacker.

836
00:41:57,039 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 9: And you get out now, so with that being said,

837
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,320
and you've heard me say this a thousand times, you

838
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,760
can either run the football or you can't.

839
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 7: You're born with it or you're not. And so like

840
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:07,960
that translates, I think pretty well.

841
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 9: So I think running back's probably the easiest position to

842
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,119
be able to walk on to campus and make an

843
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,760
impact of any of the positions outside of you know,

844
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:17,679
certainly like special teams guys.

845
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you.

846
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: Look at Charles Ross at linebacker. You're so set at

847
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,320
that position right now that roads along to the field.

848
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,519
Same thing for Tron Francis, their wide receiver Jamie Lafleur

849
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:30,920
tight in. It feels like you've got options now there

850
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,760
that he'd have to fight through. Maybe one of these

851
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,480
old linemen finds their way in into an offensive line

852
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:39,559
that'll be working in new positions. The d line did

853
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:42,360
play some freshmen last year, maybe, but I don't know.

854
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,480
Maybe is Dame Shanklin maybe next in this list defensive end,

855
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,880
one of the top players in Indiana coming in here.

856
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,480
It's not an easy position to play right away, but

857
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,639
when you look at who you lost, the path to

858
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,559
the field may be a bit more open than some

859
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,960
of the these other positions. Is there another name besides

860
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:04,800
the big names of Picking and Berry that you think

861
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,880
could potentially emerge out of this group?

862
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: T tech.

863
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 5: I actually think to Ron Francis, just because I think

864
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,719
he's that good. He's six to around two hundred pounds already.

865
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,000
I mean, he had an excellent senior season here when

866
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:20,280
he was.

867
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: In high school.

868
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:24,599
Speaker 5: And then Zion Williams and Brandon Brown at D line.

869
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,239
So Brandon Brown, he was the guy that was trending

870
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,920
into Texas for a long time from from Florida.

871
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,159
Speaker 3: You got him to ultimately flip.

872
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 5: He's six two about two eighty five, so she could

873
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,719
play inside and outside.

874
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,519
Speaker 3: And then Zion Williams.

875
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 5: I understood, I just can't every time Williams he's about

876
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,360
he's about the size of Zion Williamson because he's six four,

877
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,960
three hundred and forty two pounds.

878
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,519
Speaker 3: So I get it. You have Jacoby and Gillery.

879
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 5: He's battled injuries his whole career, and you don't have

880
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,840
anybody else that size, So I mean you need to

881
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,119
run stuffer like you don't have anybody the size of

882
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,679
Zion Williams. So those three guys, like if taking away

883
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,239
DJ Pickett, yeah, uh.

884
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: Damn, that's crazy.

885
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 4: I didn't know Zion Williams is that big. Uh, maybe

886
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,559
he can start to heal heal the heal the pain.

887
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 7: See what about the uh, the offensive lineman. I mean

888
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,920
we'll obviously throw that one to you.

889
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 9: Now, we have seen in recent years a left tackle

890
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:22,480
will go out there and from day one be the starter.

891
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:25,679
And Will Campbell yeah, like Con Solomon times, like I

892
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,760
don't know, I mean, can he now? We know like

893
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,840
Will is kind of different and we talked about him

894
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,320
like we used to have him on when he was

895
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,400
in high school. It's like, all right, this guy's gonna

896
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,280
play pretty quick, Like can that happen?

897
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:38,679
Speaker 4: Maybe so, but I can't predict it. You know, that's

898
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,320
gonna be something that you just got to cross that

899
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,840
bridge when you get there. So we'll see talented class though.

900
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,519
Our three O TB coming up next off the bench.

