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Speaker 1: Love our texters, love our callers more. But hey, I
Speaker 1: get it. I get it that texting is becoming a
Speaker 1: kind of the method of communication, which is really weird
Speaker 1: because when I first started doing this show, I don't
Speaker 1: think we even add texting.
Speaker 2: Right now, it's.
Speaker 1: Kind of taking that over, which is fine. And as
Speaker 1: long as people keep them short, you know, we can
Speaker 1: whip through them. We can get ten twenty thirty men.
Speaker 1: And I do love the variety of text two, especially
Speaker 1: when people can keep it short. And I'm I think
Speaker 1: I'm a really good multitasker. But once you get into
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Speaker 1: people are gonna rip on me, why don't they call
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Speaker 3: That's on the button bar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would suggest to me a lack of courage
Speaker 1: on the part of this Texter Dan Ryan, Dan and
Speaker 1: Scott could be best of friends. Their personalities so smug
Speaker 1: are similar, and they both worship Trump.
Speaker 2: What Scott are there? Scott Hastings? Who are they talking about?
Speaker 1: Scott Jennings? Oh what a compliment? Yeah, A fan of his.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Yeah, yeah, I am a big
Speaker 1: fan of his. And he's going to be the next
Speaker 1: senator from Kentucky. Right, Well, we shall see.
Speaker 4: I don't want to tell you he didn't rule it out,
Speaker 4: but I tell you he had very exclusive access. It's
Speaker 4: Donald Trump behind the scenes after the inauguration to write
Speaker 4: this book of his that's coming out in December. And
Speaker 4: what I'm going to try to do is have him
Speaker 4: kind of touch base from time to time with you
Speaker 4: here on this program and with me as well. And
Speaker 4: that's a question that I think you could ask him
Speaker 4: and I hope he would answer it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I assume he's going to be
Speaker 1: the next senator from Kentucky, right, I mean, it's whoever
Speaker 1: Trump decides.
Speaker 4: Well, it's not gonna be Thomas Massey then, because I
Speaker 4: don't think Donald Trump's too fond.
Speaker 3: Of him right now.
Speaker 1: No, No, but Jennings. I see Jennings's future presidential material.
Speaker 4: Wow, So, oh don't you. That's how I praise it.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying no, I just hadn't really thought about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I think he really is. And man,
Speaker 1: it's so exciting to just think about how stacked the
Speaker 1: GOP is with young talent. Oh yeah, I mean, can
Speaker 1: you imagine that primary in twenty eight? And listen, I
Speaker 1: don't want to scare everybody way, nobody wants to start
Speaker 1: talking about twenty twenty eight presidential cycle.
Speaker 2: But you can do it now, you know, with real
Speaker 2: smile on your.
Speaker 1: Face when you think about you got jd Vance, obviously,
Speaker 1: you got Rubio and there is a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: other talent there and what do they have on the
Speaker 1: other side this guy?
Speaker 2: But hey, finally they've hit on a winning strategy.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So, as the Bee said, that the.
Speaker 1: Democrats strategy now to reach men is Pete buddhaj Edge
Speaker 1: growing a beard. Have you seen his beard? Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it looks he's.
Speaker 4: Also a carpetbagger who left Indiana because he'd never win
Speaker 4: there a red state, and there are rumors that he's
Speaker 4: going to run for the Senate in Michigan. I wanted
Speaker 4: to get out of my state.
Speaker 3: Hmm.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he will.
Speaker 5: Of course, we should be talking about how, Yeah, if
Speaker 5: you know, Speaker Johnson got his way, it wouldn't be possible,
Speaker 5: not just for gay people to get married, but for
Speaker 5: straight people to get divorced, let alone life birth control
Speaker 5: or how he would want to regulate porn or whatever
Speaker 5: people most people would have a problem with.
Speaker 1: Well, that is a great platform for the Dems now, right,
Speaker 1: gay marriage and porn. I mean, but the point there
Speaker 1: being and what's so intriguing, And I sure hope they
Speaker 1: keep doing this because they really think it works, right,
Speaker 1: But these blatant, gross obvious lies And I understand, you know,
Speaker 1: for a lot of people in it, politics is a
Speaker 1: dirty game, and they do lie about their opponents, and
Speaker 1: they do spin things to the point where it really crosses.
Speaker 2: The line into blatant deception.
Speaker 1: But I'm a firm believer, and part of this comes
Speaker 1: from being a Democrat for a lot of years, and
Speaker 1: my extended family outside of Colorado all Democrats that I
Speaker 1: know of, and if somebody wasn't, they wouldn't admit it.
Speaker 1: But the point being that you've got a lot of
Speaker 1: Democrats out there who are good, decent people, and they
Speaker 1: have good, solid morals in a sense of right and wrong.
Speaker 1: And anybody with any kind of morality, anybody who and
Speaker 1: I can only speak to being Christian because that's what
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure there are other faiths.
Speaker 1: Obviously are Jewish brothers and sisters, but plenty of other
Speaker 1: faiths that are rooted in truth. And anybody who is
Speaker 1: a person of faith, they have to have respect for truth.
Speaker 1: So when you get the Democrats just repeatedly now they
Speaker 1: pride themselves. It's like they're trying to outdo each other
Speaker 1: on how big and blatant to lie they can tell.
Speaker 1: So when you got a guy like Buddha Jedge saying
Speaker 1: that you know that no speaker Johnston, what did he say?
Speaker 1: He said, he doesn't want you to be able to
Speaker 1: get divorced, right, things like that you can't take a
Speaker 1: look at Playboy or whatever. Oh yeah, that is just
Speaker 1: so obviously untrue that Democrats are just hurting themselves with
Speaker 1: that stuff.
Speaker 2: So I hope they keep doing it.
Speaker 4: Well and go beneath the surface just a little bit.
Speaker 4: With those comments from Buddhajede, what is that that's obviously
Speaker 4: anti Christian rhetoric because Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House,
Speaker 4: is known to be a man of faith, and he's
Speaker 4: trying to caricature what Speaker Johnson's positions are on various issues,
Speaker 4: and those being a couple. But this is my point, Dan,
Speaker 4: you talk about twenty twenty eight, I'm willing to have
Speaker 4: that conversation and think about it right now. Do that
Speaker 4: as a thought exercise, because if buddhaj Edge or let's say,
Speaker 4: even Josh Shapiro is the best that they've gotten, they're
Speaker 4: not able to articulate a positive message for the country,
Speaker 4: a vision and a plan that isn't hate the Orange Man,
Speaker 4: you know, Maggie. Republicans blah blah blah. They don't have
Speaker 4: that kind of soaring rhetoric.
Speaker 3: Dan.
Speaker 4: That won for Bill Clinton twice, that won for Barack Obama, twice.
Speaker 4: They don't have it, and they don't have the messenger either.
Speaker 1: I think Shapiro does. But here's Shapiro's problem that the
Speaker 1: big money in the modern Democratic Party, most of it
Speaker 1: is anti Semitic, and so you've got a big power
Speaker 1: block in the Democratic Party right now, which is anti Israel,
Speaker 1: anti Jewish. So that's a big problem for Shapiro. But Ryan,
Speaker 1: I think Shapiro's wrong on all the big issues. But
Speaker 1: I think that Shapiro is the kind of guy who
Speaker 1: can go out there and try to pull the con,
Speaker 1: you know, like the Hick and Looper Khan, the Bennett
Speaker 1: Khan that worked for a while about there's some kind
Speaker 1: of moderate and he's a talented guy, and he's a
Speaker 1: smart guy, so he can work the con.
Speaker 2: And if the GOP screws up and the GOP.
Speaker 1: As it's you know, BS or C game, a guy
Speaker 1: like Shapiro might win.
Speaker 4: Ask you this, then let's say George Clooney throws another
Speaker 4: one of his big fundraisers, who was he more likely
Speaker 4: to throw it for Josh Shapiro or AOC And why, oh.
Speaker 2: Shapiro thousand times?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Because all these guys they're just looking
Speaker 1: for whoever's going to win, right that they just want
Speaker 1: to be they want to have access to the winner.
Speaker 4: And why did they back Biden for so long? They
Speaker 4: I mean the second time around, right, right, Hey.
Speaker 1: You're preaching the choir right, right, But the point being,
Speaker 1: I mean, the point being, how were they going to
Speaker 1: get rid of Biden? They were willing to lie to
Speaker 1: the country, They were willing to hurt the country and
Speaker 1: danger the country in order.
Speaker 2: To have their guy win. So they had access and control.
Speaker 1: And first of all, a guy like Biden, they're going
Speaker 1: to have more control, right because the guy isn't competent.
Speaker 1: But what was their alternative if he wasn't willing to
Speaker 1: move aside?
Speaker 2: How do they pull a coup?
Speaker 1: And that's where a guy like Polis right, and he
Speaker 1: was never going anywhere nationally, But that's where he really
Speaker 1: missed his opening, because if somebody had shown courage there
Speaker 1: and just stepped in and said, you know, listen, love
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. He's been a great servant all those other lies,
Speaker 1: but you know what, it's time to pass the torch.
Speaker 1: He's not able to do it anymore. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you get this instant national attention and credibility, because everybody
Speaker 1: knows the emperor has no clothes, and a guy like
Speaker 1: Polis or somebody else like that, their stature would have
Speaker 1: risen a lot, but they didn't have the courage to
Speaker 1: do it. They didn't have the courage to speak the truth,
Speaker 1: which goes back to the fact that their real commitment
Speaker 1: is not to the good of the country or to
Speaker 1: the truth. It's just their own particular scheming and calculating.
Speaker 1: And the beauty is that they just undid themselves and
Speaker 1: the party at the same time. It's kind of poetic.
Speaker 1: Don't you think we need to have more poetry on
Speaker 1: this show?
Speaker 3: We do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope somebody texts us some.
Speaker 3: Either that or I can invite a poet on as
Speaker 3: a guest if you would like.
Speaker 1: It depends on the poet, because really good poetry like
Speaker 1: stuff that rhymes right, that's awesome, but not like beat poetry.
Speaker 1: I'm open to anything, Okay, I'm an appreciator of the arts.
Speaker 1: Three oh three seven, one, three, eight, two five five numbers.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 1: The reason I couldn't read the number is I just
Speaker 1: had an image pop into my head and I started
Speaker 1: laughing at myself for saying that d An five, seven,
Speaker 1: seventh through nine, so much more to get through on
Speaker 1: the show today. We are going to have an attorney
Speaker 1: at four thirty six from Alliance Defending Freedom. I talked
Speaker 1: at length about the big lawsuit they filed yesterday against
Speaker 1: Colorado over thirteen twelve. This is great stuff, really important,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of folks, even a lot
Speaker 1: of really informed folks, don't completely understand yet just how
Speaker 1: awful thirteen twelve is. So that'll be important at four
Speaker 1: thirty six and much more ahead on the Dan Kaplish.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Dan Kaplish Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Let's not come Back from Breaks at four twenty Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean because I a man, Yeah, and yeah, we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about it in a lot of different ways, right,
Speaker 1: and the good thing is America is getting.
Speaker 3: Hip to it.
Speaker 1: But but boy, this stuff, it isn't funny anymore. It
Speaker 1: never was, right, but just that devastation being done, particularly
Speaker 1: to kids by marijuana legalization. But three all three someone
Speaker 1: three eight two five five texts d An five seven, seven,
Speaker 1: three nine. The other part of it is, you know,
Speaker 1: part of my job, and I'm grateful and privileged to
Speaker 1: have my job, but part of my job is looking
Speaker 1: at autopsy photos. In fact, I was just during the
Speaker 1: break working on an autopsy photo issue. And you can't
Speaker 1: get some of this stuff out of your minds, right,
Speaker 1: and you just look at the devastation that that you know,
Speaker 1: driving under the influence of drugs, alcohol, et cetera does.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the idea that this state ever made that
Speaker 1: big mistake is extremely frustrating.
Speaker 2: Got to find a way back.
Speaker 1: Three or three someone three eight two five five texts
Speaker 1: d An five seven seven, three nine. We're getting some poetry,
Speaker 1: which I really like. We're looking for some We're looking
Speaker 1: for some poetry. I can't read this one. Sorry, we
Speaker 1: don't censor here, but but you are now, No, we
Speaker 1: don't censor, but I'm not going to read racist stuff
Speaker 1: on air.
Speaker 4: Well, I you know what you're saying, but it's it's factual, though,
Speaker 4: and I'll say it this way. So if she was
Speaker 4: not to read the whole thing, that's fine. But in
Speaker 4: the Muslim faith and in the Jewish faith, they don't
Speaker 4: eat pork of any kind and jeweles in pulp fiction
Speaker 4: was famous for saying in that movie, I don't dig
Speaker 4: swine man.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, and read it.
Speaker 1: Oh you want me to No, I just and listen.
Speaker 1: This is worth five seconds decades on air, prided myself,
Speaker 1: I'm not censoring, but if I knew somebody who was
Speaker 1: going to come out and say the N word, I'd
Speaker 1: censor them. I'm not going to give a platform to
Speaker 1: somebody who's going to engage in But that's.
Speaker 3: Not even a trupe. That's actual.
Speaker 4: It's like saying Mormons don't drink alcohol. Right, If you
Speaker 4: want to read it, I mean, yeah, you can let
Speaker 4: the listeners decide and I'll I'll wear.
Speaker 2: It, okay if it's yeah, no, I just I just
Speaker 2: sell the line. I don't endorse it.
Speaker 4: All right, said this is from Ralph, so you can
Speaker 4: blame Itt Ralph too. Wreck Itt Ralph's that's the guy
Speaker 4: who wrote it. It's right at the end of the text,
Speaker 4: he says he's Ralph.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he says his poetry submission is roses are read
Speaker 4: Muslims hate pork, defund the polis, I think is what
Speaker 4: he means.
Speaker 3: And Bennett's a dork. Michael Bennett. I mean that was
Speaker 3: kind of accurate if you think about it.
Speaker 2: Hmmm. No, oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: You have such great impersonation, which is can you do me?
Speaker 6: Ah?
Speaker 4: Usually when you're gone, I do it just so people
Speaker 4: know you're not here, but they still get a feeling
Speaker 4: and a flavor he does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay, I can take it.
Speaker 4: The best one of your go to lines that I
Speaker 4: love is when you get caught off. Garbery said, Oh wow, Kelly,
Speaker 4: it's kind of like that.
Speaker 2: What are you talking?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 2: I never get caught off guy, You know what are
Speaker 2: you referring to?
Speaker 3: Like if she says something that were to.
Speaker 1: Surprise you by Kelly, I get caught off by Kelly
Speaker 1: all the t.
Speaker 3: Every time.
Speaker 4: Right, okay, and your your kind of exclamation, Oh wow, Kelly.
Speaker 2: That is that's a good one. Where'd you learn to
Speaker 2: do that? What advice would you give to those of
Speaker 2: us out here who want to learn how to do
Speaker 2: good impressions?
Speaker 4: Lose yourself. You got to lose yourself in the impression.
Speaker 4: You got to commit to the bit, you got to
Speaker 4: become the person. And like when I'm in.
Speaker 2: Personally, that's why I can't dance either.
Speaker 4: There's a little bit of that, but like with Michael Bennett,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to actually sound like how Michael Bennett.
Speaker 3: Would be and when you remember he got really angry.
Speaker 4: At Ted Cruise, the whole classic right, bellowing elk with floods,
Speaker 4: people lost their jobs, Ted Cruise is terrible.
Speaker 3: You know that. It was quite a scene.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was interviewed Ted Cruz about that meltdown by
Speaker 4: Bennett on the side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get him out, let's talk about that. You know, boy,
Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough must listen to the show, right, because he's
Speaker 1: pulled a one to eighty in twenty four hours, because
Speaker 1: yesterday I was mocking him on this show and he
Speaker 1: deserved that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: They're talking about you know, Putin pushing Trump around and
Speaker 1: all this and that, and was saying, wait a second,
Speaker 1: you have to have hate interfering with brain function to
Speaker 1: think this is going to end well for Putin right,
Speaker 1: that that Trump is somehow going to let him win,
Speaker 1: not one.
Speaker 2: Chance in a billion. So here's Scarborough today.
Speaker 7: The mocking of Donald Trump repeatedly by the Kremlin that
Speaker 7: I don't know exactly how that helps some of the negotiations,
Speaker 7: but we will see. The President has talked about two
Speaker 7: weeks before he makes any decisions on sanctions. Obviously in
Speaker 7: your fusion in the middle of negotiations, good faith negotiations
Speaker 7: which needs do not appear to be.
Speaker 8: You don't slap sanctions on anybody. Don't use the S word. Okay,
Speaker 8: sanctions are meaningless. I'm not saying they shouldn't happen, but
Speaker 8: they're meaningless. They're never going to change Putin's behavior. Trump
Speaker 8: is going to change Putin's behavior, but it's not going to.
Speaker 2: Be through sanctions.
Speaker 1: It might be sanctions on the surface, but it's not
Speaker 1: going to be through sanctions that he changes his behavior.
Speaker 1: And we may never it may never be traceable to him,
Speaker 1: we may never know exactly how he did it. But
Speaker 1: if Latimer Putin is sitting there thinking he's untouchable personally,
Speaker 1: not if the President of the United States once you
Speaker 1: touched so yeah, yeah, now it it is not going
Speaker 1: to end well for Putin, this mocking of Trump. Now,
Speaker 1: we should never have a single American boot on the
Speaker 1: ground there, and it should not be an open ended,
Speaker 1: endless commitment of unlimited money, nothing like that. But Putin
Speaker 1: is satan, as I've been saying for many years on
Speaker 1: this show, and the fact that he has pushed it
Speaker 1: too far with Trump, Putin wouldn't take yes for an
Speaker 1: answer in terms of a good deal, which Putin never deserved.
Speaker 1: But don't blame Trump for that, Blame Biden. Blame Europe
Speaker 1: for not going in and truly backing up Ukraine.
Speaker 4: What do you make of Trump over the last week?
Speaker 4: Couple things. One, he's finally come right out and criticized
Speaker 4: Putin and says he's not happy about what's going on
Speaker 4: on that side of the negotiations with Russia.
Speaker 3: He's been very careful kind of minding his p's and
Speaker 3: q's and now not.
Speaker 4: And then he was asked in the Oval office about
Speaker 4: did he give Israel kind of a what for warning, like, hey,
Speaker 4: don't get involved in any kind of agitation of Iran
Speaker 4: while we're trying to work out this deal, and he
Speaker 4: disclosed that he's been very kind of upfront about those
Speaker 4: two things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, two things there. One is with regard to Putin,
Speaker 1: why would anybody ever think that you could humiliate Donald
Speaker 1: Trump publicly and get away with it?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: So what does that tell you about Putin? I'm very
Speaker 1: confident he's not going to get away with this. And
Speaker 1: number two, with regard to Israel, you know, Trump's been
Speaker 1: one of the best friends Israel has ever had. I
Speaker 1: do have a concern right now about whether Trump is
Speaker 1: going to do a deal that should not be done
Speaker 1: with Iran. It sure looks like a deal shaping up right,
Speaker 1: and I'm anxious to see the terms, and blessed are
Speaker 1: the peacemakers. I am all for that instead of war,
Speaker 1: but it has to be a real piece, has to
Speaker 1: be a true piece, has to be a genuine piece,
Speaker 1: not just an absence of war, not with that evil
Speaker 1: regime they think about it. I mean, it just came
Speaker 1: out last week and said they want to wipe Israel
Speaker 1: off the face of the earth, which they say all
Speaker 1: the time and they mean, but they also are holding
Speaker 1: their own citizens hostage. Almost all of the people in
Speaker 1: around not all, but almost all the people in Iran
Speaker 1: are innocent victims of this evil roos. And so I
Speaker 1: just hope I trust Trump. We're all human, we all
Speaker 1: make mistakes. I really hope he doesn't make a mistake
Speaker 1: with an Iran deal. If it's a true, verifiable deal
Speaker 1: with teeth, and we have legitimate reason to believe it's
Speaker 1: going to end this peacefully without around getting a nuke. Fine,
Speaker 1: but I'm concerned three or three, someone, three eight, two,
Speaker 1: five five The number takes d an five seven, seventh
Speaker 1: thry nine. Quick look ahead, because this is really important
Speaker 1: on a lot of levels. On the other side, we're
Speaker 1: going to have the attorney who filed this tremendous lawsuit
Speaker 1: yesterday against the State of Colorado, and it's over this
Speaker 1: obviously unconstitutional House Bill thirteen twelve, which seeks to punish
Speaker 1: free speech, but very specifically punish people speaking the truth.
Speaker 2: That's the whole point of the bill.
Speaker 1: And so I have the attorney from Alliance Defending Freedom
Speaker 1: talk about where they're going to win this thing.
Speaker 2: And how quick you're in the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast at pey.
Speaker 1: Line and welcome Attorney Hal Frampton to the show from
Speaker 1: Alliance Defending Freedom. Another great and very important to your
Speaker 1: life lawsuit filed by Alliance Defending Freedom yesterday on behalf
Speaker 1: of xx x Y Athletics Company. We've had their CEO
Speaker 1: on before out there doing great work. They have an
Speaker 1: apparel line, but they also stand up for women and
Speaker 1: against men in women's sports.
Speaker 2: So hell, welcome to the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 6: Thanks Dan, great to be here, well.
Speaker 1: Thank you and thank you for filing this lawsuit. I
Speaker 1: quoted from it yesterday a bit, but great to get
Speaker 1: it from the horse's mouth here. Can you just tell
Speaker 1: people why thirteen twelve is unconstitutional?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 6: Thirteen twelve essentially prohibits businesses like XXXY Athletics from speaking
Speaker 6: the truth about biological reality. If they say that men
Speaker 6: are men and women are women. If they use a
Speaker 6: male athlete's given name, or call that person a man,
Speaker 6: or refer to him with masculine pronouns as they do
Speaker 6: in their social media presence and advertising all the time,
Speaker 6: their subject to enforcement action under the law. And that's
Speaker 6: totally unconstitutional. That's Colorado trying to tell people what to
Speaker 6: think and what they can and can't say, and free
Speaker 6: speeches for everyone. So we are filing this lawsuit to
Speaker 6: try to vindicate that right, right.
Speaker 1: And they go to this to me bizarre ultimate extreme
Speaker 1: of specifically punishing people for speaking the truth. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's mind blowing. So I said here thinking that this
Speaker 1: may be one of the clearest easiest cases Alliance Defending
Speaker 1: Freedom has ever done. But we all know there are
Speaker 1: no sure things in the legal system. Where do you
Speaker 1: think this gets resolved? And how long is it likely
Speaker 1: to take.
Speaker 6: Well, we're going to file emotion for a preliminary injunction,
Speaker 6: essentially asking the court to step in and go ahead
Speaker 6: and block the state from enforcing the law against XXX.
Speaker 1: Why.
Speaker 6: We're hopeful that that will be granted. I mean it
Speaker 6: should be, but hopefully we can get a good, clear
Speaker 6: ruling as quickly as possible and protect not only XXX why,
Speaker 6: but every other small business or business out there that
Speaker 6: just wants to speak the truth about biological reality.
Speaker 1: Right, and to stand up now to this strategy, this
Speaker 1: practice by the left of punishing free speech. I mean,
Speaker 1: they know they can't win on the science, they can't
Speaker 1: win on the logic, they can't win on the facts,
Speaker 1: they can't win on just a basic morality. So now
Speaker 1: what they have to do is punish people under the
Speaker 1: law for speaking the truth. So I love the fact
Speaker 1: that you and Alliance Defending Freedom are standing up to
Speaker 1: that as well more globally. But hell, can you take
Speaker 1: us inside a little bit some of the details of
Speaker 1: the bill that lead to this unconstitutional outcome. Where an
Speaker 1: employer liked your client, or I should say, a public
Speaker 1: accommodation of business like your client cannot speak the truth.
Speaker 1: How does thirteen twelve mechanically accomplish that terrible purpose?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 6: Well, essentially what it does is they've added to the
Speaker 6: definition of gender expression, which is one of the protected
Speaker 6: categories under the law. They added this notion of having
Speaker 6: to use a person's chosen name, whatever name they say
Speaker 6: they want to be known by. If John wants to
Speaker 6: be called Jane, that's what you have to say. And
Speaker 6: also how the individual chooses to be addressed. So if
Speaker 6: if John says call me he or call me she,
Speaker 6: you have to do it. And if you don't, then
Speaker 6: that is considered discriminating on the basis of gender expression,
Speaker 6: and it subjects the company to enforcement action.
Speaker 2: Insane.
Speaker 1: And then when it comes to enforcement action, why are
Speaker 1: companies concerned about that as they should be.
Speaker 2: What kind of form can that take?
Speaker 6: Sure that can be fined up to thirty five hundred
Speaker 6: dollars for each violation that can be it even can
Speaker 6: mean prosecution as a misdemeanor, a criminal offense. And again
Speaker 6: each violation, every time you publish something that uses biologically
Speaker 6: accurate language, that is in itself a violation. Just the
Speaker 6: publication is a violation. And so when you've got a
Speaker 6: business like xxxy that is standing up every day through
Speaker 6: their social media channels, through their advertising. Every single time
Speaker 6: they do that, it's a potential violation.
Speaker 1: Right right, Help frempt and our guest is the attorney
Speaker 1: in this very important lawsuit against the State of Colorado.
Speaker 2: Hail. We look at this case right now.
Speaker 1: I'm really glad you guys are seeking this preliminary injunction.
Speaker 1: But if it does end up going all the way
Speaker 1: to the US Supreme Court, how long is that likely
Speaker 1: to take? And the reason I asked the question is
Speaker 1: it seems to me the left in Colorado is into
Speaker 1: the process as punishment they've had.
Speaker 2: They pass these bills, they sign them.
Speaker 1: They know they're unconstitutional, but they know they'll intimidate a
Speaker 1: lot of people and they'll punish others along the way
Speaker 1: by putting them through this long, expensive legal process. So
Speaker 1: if it goes all the way to SCOTUS, when does.
Speaker 2: It get there?
Speaker 6: Well, all getting all the way Scotus generally takes a
Speaker 6: couple of years. But the really good news on that
Speaker 6: front is that the Supreme Court has taken a number
Speaker 6: of cases from Colorado. We've got one pending right now
Speaker 6: on behalf of councilor Kaylee Chiles, who wants to be
Speaker 6: able to council children in accordance with biological reality, and
Speaker 6: of course Colorado doesn't allow that either. But the Supreme
Speaker 6: Court is going to hear her case in the fall,
Speaker 6: and so hopefully at some point the uh the message
Speaker 6: gets through that that we're we're going to uh protect
Speaker 6: Colorado's free speech rights. If it takes us years and
Speaker 6: all the all the all the time to do it.
Speaker 2: Well, thank god for you guys.
Speaker 1: Literally, but but it seems like Scotus is on to
Speaker 1: Colorado at this point, right, I mean going back to
Speaker 1: Justice Kennedy, the Jack Phillips case that they talk about
Speaker 1: animosity from the commission.
Speaker 2: Hopefully the Supreme Court sees what's happening here.
Speaker 6: Well, certainly we hope they they they see that these
Speaker 6: impingements on free speech cannot stand and continue to take
Speaker 6: important cases like the child's case and.
Speaker 3: And this one.
Speaker 6: If it gets that far to protect Americans.
Speaker 1: From speech rights, Well, thanks for what you're doing. How
Speaker 1: can people support Alliance Defending Freedom?
Speaker 6: They are welcome to go to our website ADS legal
Speaker 6: dot org. You can read about all of our cases.
Speaker 6: You can donate to the ministry. You can find ways
Speaker 6: to get involved. All of the information is there, so
Speaker 6: I would encourage people to use that resource and see
Speaker 6: where they can plug in.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you man, you're appreciated and doing the work
Speaker 1: of angels.
Speaker 6: Go get them all right, Thank you, Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Hell take care of that is I'm telling you right now.
Speaker 1: They are national treasure. Alliance Defending Freedom is a national treasure.
Speaker 4: And I spoke with Jennifer Say, the founder and CEO
Speaker 4: of Xxxy Athletics, earlier this week Dan, and she point
Speaker 4: blank set even though she got a startup, she got
Speaker 4: a good company. She was a former executive at Levi's
Speaker 4: and San Francisco, so she's very accomplished. No way she
Speaker 4: could embark upon this legal journey without the know of
Speaker 4: Alliance Defending Freedom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you think of all the heroes out there, right,
Speaker 1: and you think of her. Now you think of Glory
Speaker 1: and three or three Creative and Jack Phillips, right, who
Speaker 1: led the pack. I mean, these are true American heroes
Speaker 1: because yeah, okay, so you've got a lion's defending freedom,
Speaker 1: fighting the case, but you are still the individual going
Speaker 1: through this really intense litigation and exposing yourself to all
Speaker 1: the slings and arrows from all the haters out there,
Speaker 1: and you put yourself out there, Yeah, in part for
Speaker 1: your own good and the good of your company, but
Speaker 1: also for the greater good. And so I just admire
Speaker 1: the heck out of those people. I truly think. You know,
Speaker 1: Jack Phillips is one of the top ten heroes in
Speaker 1: Colorado history. I mean, you have you We should have
Speaker 1: that talk. Who are the top ten heroes in Colorado history?
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got Kender Castillo right up there, right
Speaker 1: near the top, Dave and Anders.
Speaker 2: Jack Phillips has got to be up there, got to
Speaker 2: be up there. So I'd love to get people's take
Speaker 2: on that. Who are the top ten heroes in Colorado history?
Speaker 2: Three or three?
Speaker 1: Someone three eight, two five five. You could text d
Speaker 1: a n five seven seven three nine. Someone who took
Speaker 1: us up on that. Texted Dan if Donald Trump comes
Speaker 1: out on Monday and says, Vladimir Putin is a real
Speaker 1: bad man. We tried to negotiate, but he's doing bad.
Speaker 1: So as of today, Ukraine will now become a member
Speaker 1: of NATO. I love people thinking outside the box, respectfully.
Speaker 1: There's zero chance that's going to happen. The US cannot
Speaker 1: be in a ground war in Ukraine. There is no
Speaker 1: reason for that. There should not be a single American
Speaker 1: boot on the ground. The reason that the devil Putin
Speaker 1: has been rewarded in Ukraine is the weakness of Biden
Speaker 1: number one, that he saw his opening right, but also
Speaker 1: the weakness of Europe, because if Europe had made it
Speaker 1: clear from day one they were willing to put boots
Speaker 1: on the ground in Ukraine to stop Russia, this thing
Speaker 1: ends a long time ago, but Europe was never willing
Speaker 1: to go there, never willing to stand up to protect
Speaker 1: the continent, to protect a free Europe. And the evil
Speaker 1: of Putin is the main cause. But the reason that
Speaker 1: we're in this gym right now is Europe would not
Speaker 1: step up. So I'm not sitting here saying that Trump
Speaker 1: should do what the Texter recommends. I think there are
Speaker 1: other ways to make Putent pay. Here on the Dan Capla.
Speaker 3: Show, you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, but yes, I flashed back to there used
Speaker 1: to be these commercials, radio commercials all the time in
Speaker 1: Colorado for Sunday number one one one one, one of
Speaker 1: these big rock shows they used to do down the
Speaker 1: old Mile High and some up at folsom that I
Speaker 1: was a part of. But quick question, I think Frampton
Speaker 1: was part of the important.
Speaker 4: Because of where you were, what your coming of age was,
Speaker 4: what your collegers were.
Speaker 3: You lived the seventies, and I got to ask you this.
Speaker 4: Did you own a copy of the album Frampton Comes Alive?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: I hated that stuff.
Speaker 1: No, I shouldn't say that. I never had any Peter
Speaker 1: Frampton wasn't into that stuff.
Speaker 4: But the joke is, everybody who like lived through the seventies, Yeah,
Speaker 4: had a copy of Frampton Comes Alive.
Speaker 3: My mom did.
Speaker 1: Let me start this way, I was the most boring
Speaker 1: person ever lived through the seventies. That's the starting point
Speaker 1: because think about what the seventies were for me. The
Speaker 1: seventies were for me. The first half I was in
Speaker 1: a seminary. Ye okay, okay, So my exposure to the
Speaker 1: seventies tended to be, Oh, you know, there were these
Speaker 1: girls from the local high schools who loved to streak
Speaker 1: the seminary. So you'd get these naked girls running through
Speaker 1: the oh you know, the fields.
Speaker 4: Dad, You have had more than your fair share of
Speaker 4: encounters with random naked women in public.
Speaker 2: Part of that is.
Speaker 1: Part of that is like going to school in the seventies.
Speaker 1: So the first half Seminary until seventy five, and the
Speaker 1: second half is CU.
Speaker 2: Boulder, right yep, okay, so that was my exposure.
Speaker 1: But the time I was at See You Bolder, almost
Speaker 1: all of it, I intended to go back to the seminary.
Speaker 2: So I was keeping my vows.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yes, so totally different mentality miam.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they weren't formal vows at that point, but
Speaker 1: I was intending to go back.
Speaker 3: So no Studio fifty four for dan Kaplis.
Speaker 2: Oh No. I had fun. I was student body president.
Speaker 2: I mean I had fun.
Speaker 1: I met girls, I dated, we'd go to formals, we
Speaker 1: do all this and that. But I intended to go
Speaker 1: back to the seminary.
Speaker 3: Real straight laced.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so anyway, Yeah, different, different way to experience
Speaker 1: the seventies is ill saying, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Very different. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But you know one thing that's interesting they don't get
Speaker 1: back to all this life and desk stuff is because
Speaker 1: I I second I got there, I started running for office.
Speaker 1: So I ran for the student Senate, knocked on every
Speaker 1: dorm room door, and literally every dorm room door.
Speaker 2: They didn't all open, but almost all did. Then ran
Speaker 2: for student.
Speaker 1: Body try executive because you know they're kind of split
Speaker 1: up the presidency. And then the third time I ran
Speaker 1: for student body president sole president, and I knocked on
Speaker 1: every dorm room door every time, and Ryan bringing a
Speaker 1: stack of bibles. All right, how many times knocking on
Speaker 1: every dorm room door? And see you between nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: five and nineteen eighty, how many times do you think
Speaker 1: guys saw cocaine?
Speaker 2: Seven? None, none, none, not once? Wow, not once.
Speaker 1: You'd run into all sorts of weed and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but never saw a hard drug. Knocking on every dorm
Speaker 1: room door. You'd see all sorts of other activity, but
Speaker 1: you would never never ran into cocaine.
Speaker 3: Were you greeted by a naked female at the door
Speaker 3: any of those times.
Speaker 2: That happened off?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, yeah, wow, No, it was a
Speaker 1: different time. But I was going back to the seminary.
Speaker 1: I wasn't.
Speaker 2: Oh, I wasn't taking advantage.
Speaker 3: Of the last temptation of Dan at that time.
Speaker 1: No, I gotta tell you, I was at that point,
Speaker 1: I was like so on fire to go back it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, podcast, No, it's it didn't stop.
Speaker 2: Me from knocking on every door, I.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, Yeah, knocking on Heaven's door. Yeah, it did cause
Speaker 1: some perplection.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I thought the nineties were different, and
Speaker 4: they were, oh man, I mean very.
Speaker 3: Buttoned down compared to the seventies.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the seventies in Bolder. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's I would strongly recommend that if everybody has
Speaker 1: the option. They lived the first half of the seventies
Speaker 1: being in a Catholic seminary high school years you'd go
Speaker 1: home at nights, and then the second half at CU Boulder.
Speaker 3: You know, you just described that could be a movie.
Speaker 3: Just start to finish.
Speaker 2: You know, there might be a movie in there.
Speaker 3: Ninety minutes running time.
Speaker 1: Because I told you, I told you about the first
Speaker 1: female I met on the ceau camp.
Speaker 3: Oh I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when you go from the seminary, the first
Speaker 1: female you meet, very nice, attractive young lady, not a
Speaker 1: stitch of clothing, you know, I mean, but you're lucky, Doc,
Speaker 1: go about your no oh yeah, oh yeah, I was
Speaker 1: going back good times.
Speaker 2: I was going back.
Speaker 1: So Texters, Dan, does this all mean that if I'm
Speaker 1: lying in a hospital vulnerable and don't refer to the
Speaker 1: trans health worker as they demand.
Speaker 2: I will be prosecuted, No, because.
Speaker 1: The prosecution is going to be against businesses public accommodations,
Speaker 1: which is most businesses out there, if they if they
Speaker 1: don't lie and say that a man is a man.
Speaker 4: I'd be careful with that one though, because I've seen
Speaker 4: a host of TikTok videos of healthcare workers that are
Speaker 4: bragging about providing either the wrong medical care or no
Speaker 4: medical care to Trump supporters, people they think are maga.
Speaker 1: It's out there, yeah, and obviously a real good chance
Speaker 1: all that's fake, right because somebody be confessing to a felony.
Speaker 3: Well, I think some people have gotten fired.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh for doing the video, right Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: it would obviously be a felony, and if somebody passed
Speaker 1: away to be murder and all that stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you got a lot of people just saying
Speaker 1: things that aren't true there obviously, just to try to scare, intimidate,
Speaker 1: harass Dan.
Speaker 2: Thanks for owning it, Ryan the real Ralph.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Ralph's poem.
Speaker 2: We were doing some poetry today, Dan, roses.
Speaker 1: Or red violets or blue the color our GOP is
Speaker 1: pathetically inept, and I can't wait to escape this state.
Speaker 1: You know, first, I don't think the Colorado GOP is
Speaker 1: pathetically inept.
Speaker 2: I think it's turned a corner. I think it's headed
Speaker 2: a good direction.
Speaker 1: Pretty good timing, right, because there's at least one office
Speaker 1: that you got a real shot to win, maybe two.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kapla Show.