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Speaker 1: You am now listening to soft Core History.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to Softcore History. I'm your

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host for the week Damage Ester, joined as always by

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Robert Fox.

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: We are a little worse for the wear?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me, I'm more so. I think I'm more

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so from illness than from hangover because I had pumped

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my stomach full of meat before I went out drinking.

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Speaker 2: Although tough way to open up the episode with the

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local events.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, we were not out drinking at Buford's. Uh so,

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don't worry about that. We went south, you way south? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, thoughts with everybody that was affected at Beuford's.

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I've been there so many times a lot. It's like

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a huge sports bar.

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Speaker 1: Bufords, and it's previous iteration steampunk. Yeah yeah, I've been

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to that bar a bunch of times.

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Speaker 2: Many a first date there in my twenties.

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Speaker 1: Great cocaine bathrooms upstairs. I think it's downstairs too. It's

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just like these like heavy metal wall like ceiling, the floors,

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stalls like that. The first time I walked in, I

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was like, it's like, you know what you made this for?

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Nobody needs to poop here?

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Speaker 2: Now, there's a lot of people wipe in their noses.

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Speaker 1: There's even like a cell phone thing like a special

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stand in each in each tall right at right, at

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like chest level.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to make light of what just happened,

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so I'm gonna move on.

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Speaker 1: I not make in light of it. It's just I've

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been there a lot. I'm giving you how well I

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know that.

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Speaker 2: Bar inside and out. They have like a huge screen

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in the back to watch games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a great spot.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 1: They used to have a three one three there. I

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don't know if they still do well.

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Speaker 2: Today we're gonna talk about something totally unrelated, not going

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with the SEO, not really talking about Iran right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like people need a break. I need

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a break from everything.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna talk about politics.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, let's fucking go finally, something.

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Speaker 2: Light, specifically one politician.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So goofy, goofy guy.

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Speaker 2: You could say that. Okay, Today we're talking about a

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man whose own philosophy has been described with a wider

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net than anything I've ever seen. They're calling him McCarthyism,

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European fascism, Stalinism. Can't really pin this guy down.

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Speaker 1: Okay, does he just like hop around? Or?

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Speaker 2: A New York Times article in nineteen eighty one said,

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my guess is that he was a remarkable set of contradictions,

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still baffling to biographers. But I had great interest in

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what he did in this world, and a greater interest

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in him as a focus of myth.

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Speaker 1: Who is I'm like, you can't even guess the air out?

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Did he die in the eighties and that's why they

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were writing about him?

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Speaker 2: No? Okay, died in the thirties.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 2: He has been called a denigogue and the closest thing

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to a dictatorship in America.

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Speaker 1: Were you an FDR today?

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Speaker 2: No? Okay, one of the FDR's main opponents, though, oh

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all right, on his side.

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Speaker 1: On his side, okay, the only one I remember, because

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I'm not I don't know much.

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Speaker 2: About like the I think you should know who this is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll just say all my FDR now is really

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just World War Two. And then obviously we did that

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episode on how eventually he came to be uh butt

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heads with Joe Kennedy.

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Speaker 2: Wall butt heads with this guy first?

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Speaker 1: Okay, in the thirties. I assume mm hmm, okay.

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Speaker 2: Early thirties, right during the depression, in the heat of it. Yeah,

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but you should know this guy because you were married

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in his state in Louisvier. Is this that?

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Speaker 1: Do they make a movie about him? Two movies about him?

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Making a remake James Gandelfini.

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Speaker 2: I'm unfamiliar with that, okay, but as Huey Long, Huey Long, Okay,

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I don't think that was him. Huey Long.

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Speaker 1: I do know the name. Actually, I don't know much

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about him, but I do. I have read the name before.

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Speaker 2: The King of Louisiana. Hell yeah, he's also a nickname,

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the Kingfish.

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Speaker 1: The Kingfish. Yeah, that's a good that's a good name.

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I'm looking at this movie now to see if it

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is that. That's a that's a that's a good loser

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in a name too, like it's a bay you name.

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Oh yeah, I Kingfish don't know you.

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Speaker 2: So. Long was born the seventh of nine children into

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a middle class farming family in a poor Louisiana town

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in eighteen ninety three. This town of Winfield was oddly progressive, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, if it's poor, you know what I mean,

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there's a decent chance they'll just adopt that those politics

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for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they actually stayed loyal to the Union during

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the Civil War.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, look at them? Was it was it like

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they just didn't have slaves, Like they're one of the

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few Southerners who were like, boy, this is fun fucking

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our economy.

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Speaker 2: Possibly, but it was just more like, why are you

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going to fight for the rich man? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Fifth fair enough. Yeah, so it's kind of like that

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Matthew McConaughey movie Too Different that was not in Louisiana,

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but they were like, I'm tired of dying for rich man.

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Speaker 2: Long was homeschooled until age eleven before entering the public

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school system, and I guess just stunted on his classman's

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for a few years and convinced his teachers to let

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him skip seventh grade.

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Speaker 1: Sure, good for him.

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Speaker 2: Not that Louisiana had the best education system at the time.

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Speaker 1: He probably were now, he probably stunted on them by

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being the only one that could read. Like his parents

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just like sat him down and taught him how to

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read at home. Then he got to school. Yeah, and

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you have a real leg up when you're the only

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one in class that can read the books you really

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start throwing the curve.

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Speaker 2: At Winfield High School, he and his friends formed a

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secret society, with their mission being to run things, laying

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down certain rules that students would have to follow.

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Speaker 1: So a little high school illuminati. Yeah, what was the

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one at Alabama?

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Speaker 2: That's so stupid. Machine she I love the machine, the

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fucking ma she Oh my god. The faculty learned of

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Long's antics and warned him, Hey, we have school rules.

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Can you just chill out? Yeah, just follow those?

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Speaker 1: Can you not create a secret underground society slash government

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like your children? This is pointless.

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Speaker 2: So he fired back by creating flyers that criticized.

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Speaker 1: Teachers anonymous, I assume, but everyone knew.

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Speaker 2: And the state mandated fourth year of secondary education. Uh no,

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non anonymous. He was expelled in nineteen ten.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he was. He put his name, I mean,

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even if it was anonymous, so they know they know

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he's fucking doing that. He was against four years of

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high school. Well buddy, you can leave early if you want.

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Speaker 2: Long then successfully petitioned to fire the principal to who

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like the school board, the town.

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Speaker 1: That's really funny.

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Speaker 2: So he got them fired. But then he didn't turn

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to the school just.

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Speaker 1: Took him down with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if I'm going down, you're coming right down with me.

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How do you even get him fired? Like erd expelled student?

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Just like why would they listen to him? What was

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this principal doing?

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Speaker 2: He's very good at arguing clearly. At a state debate

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competition in Baton Rouge, he won full tuition to LSU.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, go Taggers, But.

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Speaker 2: Because the scholarship did not cover textbooks or living expenses,

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his family could not afford to send him to attend,

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and he was also unable to go because he didn't

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technically graduate high school.

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Speaker 1: Ah okay, so he got the scholarship but didn't have kings. Like,

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can I get cash? Then?

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Speaker 2: I guess I don't think he got it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not. They're probably like no, because there's no

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money involved.

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Speaker 2: Have saved us? Yeah, well that's your coin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no there's no check to write. You just

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go for free. Doesn't cost to It doesn't cost for

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us to pay for you what it costs for you

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to pay for you, right, so fuck off.

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Speaker 2: Instead, he entered the workforce as a traveling salesman in

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the rural south.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, a lot of poor women with vacuum cleaners

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they didn't end up wanting.

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Speaker 2: In September nineteen eleven, Long attending seminary class at Oklahoma

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Baptist University at the urge of his mother, a devout

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Baptist Okay. Living with his brother, George. Long attended the

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school for only one semester, rarely appearing at lectures, and decided,

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you know what preaching is just now for.

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Speaker 1: Me, Well, it sounds like he would prefer to preach

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about himself.

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Speaker 2: So he went to law school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, two sides of the same coin.

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Speaker 2: He attended the University of Oklahoma College of Law for

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a semester in nineteen twelve.

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Speaker 1: How do you afford that? I guess he's been working.

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Speaker 2: He borrowed one hundred dollars from his brother, Okay, but

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then he immediately lost that at the roulette tables in

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Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 1: That it actually doesn't sound on brands so far for

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this guy. He's see. I mean, he's like fast and loose,

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but he doesn't sound.

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Speaker 2: Like he gets bit by the gambling bud.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll do it.

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Speaker 2: And buddy, I've been there, I'm there right now.

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Speaker 1: How'd you go for dude?

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Speaker 2: Ah?

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Speaker 1: He lost okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Did not pull through turn money. While he was studying

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law part time, he continued to work as a salesman.

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Of the four classes Long took, he received one incomplete

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and three s's. He later confessed he learned little because

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there was too much excitement with all those gambling houses

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around the law school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just so, he's just skipping lectures to go

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to Indian casinos or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I've been to those Oklahoma casinos too. They're not very good.

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Speaker 1: They're not fun. Have you been to like the big

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fancy one, the.

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Speaker 2: One on the Texas border.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. I went for the World Long Drive Competition

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in like twenty sixteen. Nice because that's where it was

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being held.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to see if I could enter it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, then you show up late.

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Speaker 2: I was. I was like a day late. Okay, but

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hit the blackjack tables and you had to pay an annie.

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Oh yeah, you six dollars for five dollars hand.

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Speaker 1: That sucks.

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Speaker 2: So it's like a dollar always goes to the house anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're getting taxed.

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Speaker 2: You're getting taxed like you're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna fucking win most of the time. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: It's just really turned me off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that sucks a lot.

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Speaker 2: He then met his future wife, Rose McConnell, had a

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baking contest he had to promote shortening that he was selling.

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and married in April of nineteen thirteen. They had three

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kids as well. On their wedding day, Long had no

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cash with them and had to borrow ten dollars from

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his fiance to pay the.

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Speaker 1: Priest ten dollars.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen what thirteen.

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Speaker 1: That is so much money to have to give a

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priest to marry you in nineteen guest day.

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Speaker 2: Of your life? Right, I guess you wouldn't pay ten

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dollars and marry wife again?

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Speaker 1: What's the one? What's the twenty twenty or why? I guess? Yeah,

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what's the twenty twenty six equivalent of that? That's got

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to be a stupid amount.

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Speaker 2: So let's go January of nineteen thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Ten dollars. I'm guessing.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it goes all the way back to exactly nineteen thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's when the inflation calculator starts. That's sweet.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be like a girl three hundred and thirty.

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Speaker 1: Bucks three hundred. Okay, that's maybe that's right, Maybe that's right.

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Speaker 2: How much did you pay the guy to do your

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little ceremony? It's like ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: Nothing, who's a friend?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you had to pull something out for him.

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Speaker 1: He would never I think we did give him a present.

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I'm pretty sure we got a gift.

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Speaker 2: I would hope. Yeah, just doing it. Have the goodness

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of his heart.

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Speaker 1: So long ago, I don't fucking know.

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Speaker 2: Shortly after the marriage, Long revealed to his wife his

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aspirations to for a statewide office, the governorship, the Senate,

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and ultimately the presidency.

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Speaker 1: I like that from I mean from it. Clearly from

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a very young age, he was just looking around at everyone.

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Speaker 2: And being like, I'm smarter than you are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to spit on your heads, like

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I stand above you.

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Speaker 2: His entire platform was to kind of represent the little guy. Yeah,

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the poors, yeah, taxi, elite, oat, the rich.

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Speaker 1: All that fun stuff. But he was at but he's

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an actual poor person saying that, and not not like

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some cul de sac dwelling person with a grad school

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degree that they can't pay off.

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Speaker 2: Not a NEPO baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Long enrolled at Tulane University Law School in New Orleans.

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In the fall of nineteen fourteen, after a year of study,

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he successfully petitioned Louisiana Supreme Court for permission to take

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the bar test. And yeah, he just passed with flying colors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds a r right. That's interesting too that,

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uh I think so he did that, uh like just

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took basically just took the bar, right, like, didn't finish

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law school, just took the bar. And I think Louisiana

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is also the state that Frank abagnahil Junior. I believe

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so Yah passed the bar, which is weird to me

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by just like studying his dick off and like because

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he lied to everything, which is weird to me because

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my parents have said that the louis who are both attorneys,

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you don't know, they've told me before that the Louisiana

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bar is like the weirdest fucking bar test in America.

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Speaker 2: Just like the most obscure question.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, well, their system of law is just

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like a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: It's America.

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Speaker 1: That's Napoleonic code type of shit. And yeah, that's just

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it's just they're just like if you go to law

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school and then go down to Louisiana and trying to

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take a bar like you're fucked. I think Louisiana, Texas

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and maybe California or all kind of hard, but Louisiana

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is hard because it's like he went to law school

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in America then have to go take a law test

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in a borderline different country.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen fifteen, Long established the private practice in Windfield. He

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represented poor plainiffs, usually in worker compensation cases. Long avoided

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fighting in World War One by obtaining a draft deferment

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on the grounds that he was married and had a

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dependent child. You get out of the draft for that,

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I guess, so you're good.

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Speaker 1: Woo, I'm uscle forty.

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Speaker 2: So oh we got at a world war. I don't

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think that matters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it mattered less. Certainly they're not putting me on

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the front line, so I'm getting a desk job at

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this point.

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Speaker 2: Listen, you're just as good as an eighteen year old

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to get blown up by a drunk.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. I agree with that. All meets

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the same at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen eighteen, Long invested one fifty dollars in a

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well that struck oil. However, the Standard Oil Company refused

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to accept any of its oil in its pipelines, costing Long.

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His investment episode served as a catalyst for Long's lifelong

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hatred of Standard Oil Company.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was just and I assume that spread

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out to like most corporations eventually, where he was just like,

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these guys are fucking everyone.

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Speaker 2: That same year, Long entered the race to serve on

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the three seat Louisiana Railroad Commission. In the Democratic primary,

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Long polled second behind incumbent Burke Bridges, which is a

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solid name.

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Speaker 1: That is good.

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Speaker 2: That's just Burke Bridges over there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sold Burke.

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Speaker 2: Since no candidate garnered a majority of the votes, a

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runoff election was held, for which Long campaign tirelessly across

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northern Louisiana. The race was close, but Long ultimately defeated

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Burke by just six hundred and thirty six votes.

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Speaker 1: Damn and by the way Railroad Commission, I don't know

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how it worked then worked now in that state, But

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in Texas railroad comissioner deals with oil among obviously railroads too,

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but like oil is I think a part of their purview.

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So this guy got fucked by Standard Oil and was

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immediately like what office.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly what it did. So he forced utilities

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to lower rates, ordered railroads to extend service to small towns,

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and demanded that Standard Oil cease the importation of Mexican

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crude oil and use oil from Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: Wells, okay, so he's like, keep it local, stop importing

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shit cheaper oil. Probably, God knows what you could do

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what you had to pay a Mexican back then. You

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didn't even have to pay an American very well back then.

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Speaker 2: And I mean they were going down to like Paraguay and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's funny that even back then they're like, god,

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damn it, three cents a day to these Irish assholes.

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Speaker 2: No thanks, pass get us some South and Central American slaves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you pay them in half a banana in nineteen

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thirteen or whatever year that was, like gets just.

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Speaker 2: Free, not on the United fruit companies. Watch yeah, true,

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not getting bananas, valuable commodity bananas.

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Speaker 1: Someone was telling me, was it Shay it was no,

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it was Boosh last night was saying when his relative

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first got to America from Sicily, the first thing they

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did off the fucking dock was eat a banana, because

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they only never only heard grand stories of bananas.

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Speaker 2: And now you can't even get a real banana, can't.

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You know?

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Speaker 1: I don't even like bananas.

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Speaker 2: So in the governor election of nineteen twenty, Long campaign

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heavily for John M. Parker. After Parker was elected, the

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two then became bitter rivals. Their break was largely caused

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by Long's demand and Parker's refusal to declare the state's

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oil pipelines public utilities.

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Speaker 1: So he wanted to well, I guess not nationalized, but

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you know, state control of the oil pipelines. Yeah, and yeah, man,

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he just lost he lost his ass on an investment,

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and he was so petty, could not take that. L

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could not and maybe he was maybe he did get fucked.

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I don't know, but he just made it his life's

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fucking mission. Imagine you're like a young adult or like

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a kid basically, and like a team beats your team

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in a playoff game, and you're so mad that you

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dedicate your life to like get playing for your team

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and then just to beat that other team one day.

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Like he just I mean, he wanted to be president anyway,

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but he took like a detour. He was like, oh,

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this is how I'm gonna do it because I have

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to fuck this these people on my way up.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's my lifelong goal to tell Lebron James

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to sit down after what he did to me when

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I was sixteen at his basketball camp. Yeah, this academy

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clowned you, clown me in front of the five hundred campers,

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told me to sit my ass down. So I think

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my best opportunity is maybe be a waiter a hostess.

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Take a seat here, Lebron.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's probably it's the only chance

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I have sit down. What this is your table, so

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please have a seat. Sorry, I'm sorry, sorry to offend you. Yeah,

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I didn't mean too. Then you just walk away. Yeah,

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such a shame, that's right.

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Speaker 2: By nineteen twenty two, Long had become chairman of the

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Commission now called the Public Service Commission, and that year

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Long prosecuted the Cumberland Telephone and Telegraph Company for unfair

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rate increases. He successfully argued the case on appeal before

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the United States Supreme Court, which resulted in cash refunds

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two thousands of overcharged customers. After the decision, Chief Justice

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and former President William Taft. Yeah, yep, praise Long as

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the most brilliant lawyer who ever practiced before the court.

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Speaker 1: Damn. I mean that's high praise. That is like I

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feel like Taft isn't the most storied Supreme Court justice

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of all time.

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Speaker 2: But like he has to be like one of the

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more interesting ones. It's taff he's a president.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is he the only one to do that?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, yes, yeah, No one else is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's just kind of slipped in.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, wait no. It's definitely a unique story in

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American history. I don't think that it's it's ever been

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the other way either. I don't think a Supreme Court justice.

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Speaker 2: Well you're for life. You can't run for president, you

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could retire, you can be like you know what, now

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I should be like the pope. You should have to die.

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Speaker 1: I agree, you need to die in your chair like

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Ruth bader Ginsburg.

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Speaker 2: I just get one last bang of the gabble.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, r get bader Ginsburg. It was just I mean,

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she died in her chair five years before she died.

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Speaker 2: But well, the olds are running the country. Yeah, she's

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like everyone else is old. Why can't I stay?

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Speaker 1: Why? What is it? People keep going on? And I

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don't disagree with the Jerry out jerryatocracy or something like that. Yeah,

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it's pretty accurate. There's a good meme going around for

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whatever reason. It's with Jason Alexander in it. But it's

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like him at different phases of his life, and it's like,

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it's nineteen ninety five and the president was born in

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nineteen forty six. It's two thousand and six, and the

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president was born in nineteen forty six. It's twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: And the president was born in nineteen forty six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: On August thirtieth, nineteen twenty three, Long announced his candidacy

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for the governorship of.

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Speaker 1: Louisiana nineteen twenty three.

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Speaker 2: He denounced Governor Parker as a corporate stooge, vilified standard oil,

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and attacked local political bosses. Louisiana was essentially a one

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party state under the Democratic Old Regulars, holding mock elections

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in which they invoked the Lost Cause of the Confederacy.

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The Old Regulars presided over a corrupt Louisiana government.

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Speaker 1: By the way, All the Kings Men is based on

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the life of Huey Long.

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Speaker 2: Okay cool.

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Speaker 1: It is a fictional It was a fictional novel that

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has been adapted in movies twice. I think the first.

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Speaker 2: Version of it glad we figured that out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the first version of it was like

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extremely highly praised, and then the second version was kind

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of like good. I don't know, a good remake, but yeah,

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that was. So that's based on how long.

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Speaker 2: Well the story gets really good soon.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Louisiana was one of the least developed states that had

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just three hundred miles of paved roads, thirty lowest literacy rates.

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Speaker 1: Let me stop you right there. You don't need to

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use the past tense. It still is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he actually kind of changes it drastically. Okay, Yeah, because.

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Speaker 1: Like, man, you drive through, especially from Texas. I've only

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driven through from Texas. I don't know what it's like

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driving down like from the North or from Florida. Uh,

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but god damn. You get in Louisiana and you're just

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like immediately until you get to New Orleans. Basically even

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Baton Ruge, you're like woof, Like you just drive through

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the state and you're like, good lord.

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Speaker 2: So long came in third in the primary and was eliminated.

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The Ku Klux Klan's prominence in Louisiana was the campaign's

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primary issue. Well, the other two candidates either strongly opposed

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or supported the clan. Long remained neutral, alienated in both sides.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how the shakes out. So he was the

475
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actual meme where it's like making one of moderates and

476
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like they guy, like if one side is the Klan,

477
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and they're like they aren't people, they don't deserve rights.

478
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On the other sides like or like he's like, we

479
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want to kill them. On the other sides like we

480
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are we deserve basic human rights, and the moderates like no, no, no,

481
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let's hear everyone.

482
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Speaker 2: Now. I guess he was that meme though.

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

484
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Speaker 2: He also failed to attract Catholic voters, which eliminated his

485
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chances in the south of the state, which was heavily Catholic.

486
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Speaker 1: Uh. Not a great Not a great look for a

487
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,839
state that organizes its counties by parish Yeah, they're called

488
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parish counties.

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Speaker 2: However, Long blamed heavy rain on election day for suppressing

490
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butter turnout. Yeah sure among his base in the north,

491
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where voters could not reach the poles over dirt roads

492
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that had turned to mud. It was the only election

493
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Long ever.

494
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Speaker 1: Lost and he had a built in excuse.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta have it in your back pocket.

496
00:24:07,759 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Stolen election, stolen by God.

497
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Speaker 2: Long spent the next four years building his reputation and

498
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political organization in the heavily Catholic urban South. Government mismanagement

499
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during the Great Mississippi Flood of nineteen twenty seven also

500
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gained along the support of the Cajuns, whose land had

501
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been deeply affected.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because here's the thing. He's he's not in office

503
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at this point, right, or is he still holding his

504
00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:35,400
old office and he just ran for governor.

505
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Speaker 2: No, he's kind of just traveling now.

506
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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the worst type of person. It's good,

507
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but like, they have such a leg up because they

508
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,000
have nothing. They can say whatever they want because they

509
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:52,400
will they have no record to juxtapose that against. They

510
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,359
can just walk around and be like, fuck these guys, right,

511
00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:59,039
they're doing everything wrong. And instead of being like, well, wait,

512
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what are you doing and only ask him like, well,

513
00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:02,359
what would you do? And he can just tell you

514
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whatever the fuck he feels like.

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah. He formally launched his second campaign for governor in

516
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nineteen twenty seven, using the slogan every Man is a King.

517
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But no one wears a crown.

518
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Speaker 1: Sure, I feel like that'd be pretty easy to combat.

519
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,359
When everyone's a king, no one's a king.

520
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Speaker 2: If you have two kings, you have none.

521
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's my favorite line from I watched

522
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,759
a lot of kids movies, obviously because I have three children,

523
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:32,759
and The Incredibles it came out in two thousand and six,

524
00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:34,599
and they say some shit in that movie that you

525
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,079
would never catch in a kid's movie now. And one

526
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,839
of them is like the boy, the fucking flash kid

527
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,680
or whatever is like, I just want to like I'm special,

528
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Like I'm better than these people. I'm so freaking fast,

529
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:52,000
and his mom goes, honey, everyone is special, and he

530
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goes which means no one is. Yeah, And I was like,

531
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you know what, you run that.

532
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Speaker 2: Line hit so hard for you.

533
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Speaker 1: It's just like damn god, damn. Now, but now what

534
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:06,000
Pixar movies like everyone is special and because of that,

535
00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:10,960
everyone is special lives all lot like literally, I guess

536
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,599
it's not Pixar, but in Conto is.

537
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,079
Speaker 2: Like all just bags and meat that are going to

538
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,400
meet our end to a drone.

539
00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, to a piece of metal, I mean piloted by

540
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,400
a bag of meat three thousand miles away.

541
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Speaker 2: But maybe or the AI will eventually just pilot it itself.

542
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. True, you can just get got by a drone

543
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,480
swarm that a human didn't even code. It was vibe coded.

544
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're starting to integrate a lot of AI into

545
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,559
the military.

546
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:40,559
Speaker 1: I know. They think they just signed with Claw. Whoever

547
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,759
owns Claude wouldn't do it, so they went with just

548
00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:46,599
Sam Almon. Sam Almond was like, oh, yeah, yeah, but

549
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,440
here's the thing.

550
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Speaker 2: That's not a good dude. No, that might be one

551
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,880
of the worst people out there now.

552
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and he doesn't he doesn't get as much

553
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,400
shit because I don't think he's not really like I

554
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,279
guess he's a little bit of attention horn, but he's

555
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,359
not like Elon Osk or Zuckerberg or something where you're

556
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,720
just always hearing about him.

557
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,759
Speaker 2: Nah. He's deep into it though. Oh oh yeah, he

558
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:09,880
wants to essentially make a god.

559
00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like him and Peter Tielpe was like, I.

560
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: Don't know if human being should keep existing.

561
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: You know, let's give birth to our mechanical child and

562
00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:19,240
let them take over the universe.

563
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: Remember the guy that made or tried to make mechanical Jesus.

564
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,960
We did an episode on him in Patreon.

565
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: We did this is It's all been tried before.

566
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: Nothing's new, everything you can think, everything's a rerun tried before.

567
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,079
When the six year old incumbent governor called Long a

568
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,319
liar during an encounter in the lobby of the Roosevelt Hotel,

569
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Long punched him in the face.

570
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Speaker 1: Hell yeah it. Long can do whatever he wants. He

571
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:47,519
doesn't hold a fucking office. No, an he prought him

572
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:48,079
to be fair.

573
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: But he does win the Democratic nomination for the second

574
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,640
run a governor. And then if you win the Democratic nomination,

575
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you're right your governor.

576
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Republicans aren't winning elections in the South at that point.

577
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It's completely reversed.

578
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:09,559
Speaker 2: Fifteen thousand Louisiana's traveled to Baton Rouge for lungs inauguration.

579
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He set up large tents, free drinks, and a jazz

580
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,279
band on the capitol grounds. It was very similar to

581
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I guess what Jackson did at the White House. He

582
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,359
just threw a razor.

583
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: Oh good for him, I mean, but here's the thing though,

584
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:26,319
Jackson to the White House like yeah, that's a little odd.

585
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,640
You're like, oh, okay, I guess they're doing that. That's

586
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,039
just par for the course in Louisiana. I mean, those

587
00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:35,119
people are are fucking pickled, that's how drunk they are,

588
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:38,400
like just like they would. There would have been a riot

589
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,839
if there wasn't a jazz band and liquor.

590
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:42,759
Speaker 2: But this is a Dole affair.

591
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

592
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: Once in office on May twenty first, nineteen twenty eight,

593
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:52,599
Long moved quickly to consolidate power, firing hundreds of opponents

594
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in the state bureaucracy at all ranks, from cabinet level

595
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,599
heads of departments to state road workers. It ever you

596
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:02,559
know slided him or did him wrong, You're gone.

597
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:04,279
Speaker 1: How would you even know? There's no tweets to check.

598
00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: Every state employee who depended on Long for a job

599
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,119
was expected to then pay a portion of their salary

600
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:13,599
at election time directly into his campaign fund his war chest.

601
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Speaker 1: Boy, that sounds legal. He gets a little off the top,

602
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:20,839
good lord, no one sued him for that.

603
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: He literally becomes king of Louisiana.

604
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:24,519
Speaker 1: I mean, the book is called All the Kings Met.

605
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Speaker 2: He would appear unannounced on the floor of both House

606
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,440
and Senate meetings and bully the opponents. When an opposing

607
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:36,960
legislator once suggested Long was unfamiliar with the Louisiana Constitution.

608
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:40,839
Long responded, I'm the constitution around here, now.

609
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: Look at me. Yeah, I'm what's I'm a little disappointed

610
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:51,240
actually because he seems like the sort of like psycho

611
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,839
that could start reciting the CONSTITUTIONE like he would just

612
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,119
do that to dunk on someone.

613
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: Mm hm. But didn't bother do whatever he wants, didn't bother.

614
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:01,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like, no, I make the rules.

615
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: One program Long approved was a free textbook program for

616
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:11,200
school children. But this angered a lot of Catholics who

617
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:13,079
usually sent their children to private schools.

618
00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: So they're picking up the tab for books they're not getting.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but Long assured them that the books would

620
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be granted directly to all children, regardless of whether they

621
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:28,079
attended public school. Yet, this assurance was criticized by conservative constitutionalists,

622
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,880
who claimed it violated the separation of church and state

623
00:30:31,359 --> 00:30:34,000
and sued Long. The case went to the US Supreme

624
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,839
Court again, and it was ruled in favor of Long.

625
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:41,880
How he's just given textbooks to kids? Man, Yeah, I

626
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,200
guess so.

627
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's an inter deputy interesting case. In fact,

628
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,640
that's probably why school choice is viable because it would

629
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:50,279
presumably be a but if you're not, if you can

630
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:52,319
do it for any religious institution, then I guess it's

631
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:55,200
not a violation because you're not doing something in favor

632
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,319
or negatively against a religion. Yeah right, that's the only

633
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,359
That's what it sat. It's like you, you know, congressor whatever,

634
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:05,799
which I'll not favor or fuck any religion.

635
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: Basically, this is where he kind of loses me. He's

636
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,440
irritated by the immoral gambling dens and brothels and oh,

637
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:20,039
just pulling the ladder up.

638
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:21,319
Speaker 1: Immoral.

639
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,839
Speaker 2: It's like, Doug, you almost didn't go to law school

640
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:28,079
because you blew the one hundred dollars on the roulette table.

641
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: So he gets fucked in an investment. Maybe maybe he

642
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,160
has a claim there. I don't really know. But the

643
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,759
gambling thing is like, dude, you made a choice. You

644
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,559
walked into a place where everyone knows you will probably

645
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:46,240
lose your money, Like anyone with a brain knows what

646
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:48,079
walking into a casino entails.

647
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: You say goodbye to that money. Yeah, if you walk out,

648
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,799
it's a nice, pleasant surprise.

649
00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:56,359
Speaker 1: And he's just like, they tricked me.

650
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: The minute you take it out of the ATM.

651
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,359
Speaker 1: That's gone.

652
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, in your head it should be gone.

653
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:04,359
Speaker 1: Yeah you yeah, yeah, yep yeah. There's no world in

654
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,400
which you go there as a as a ploy to

655
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,599
make money. It is a it is it's gaming. It's gaming.

656
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,440
It's a game. You are paying to play a game.

657
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: So Long sent the National Guard to raid these establishments

658
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:27,480
with orders of shoot without hesitation. Jesus Christ, what Yeah,

659
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,799
it's your fault. Nobody dies in this, but gambling equipment

660
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,359
is burned, prostitutes are arrested, and over twenty five thousand

661
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:37,480
dollars was confiscated for government funds.

662
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,079
Speaker 1: Now, I like to think he had a bad encounter

663
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,640
with prostitute too, that just didn't make it to his biography,

664
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,880
Like he embarrassed himself. Possibly came too fast, Yeah, and

665
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:51,440
still had to pay for the full hour and was

666
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:52,400
furious about it.

667
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:56,559
Speaker 2: The Louisiana Attorney General denounced Long's actions as illegal, but

668
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,720
Long rebuked him, saying nobody asked for his opinion.

669
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: You know what it is. I mean, it's like, how

670
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,119
do you even do that without the attorney general? Like

671
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,119
you literally just call up the National Guard and you're like,

672
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,400
all right, this is what we're doing today.

673
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: I really don't understand how he gets away with half this.

674
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: I don't understand how the gambling houses, if they were legal,

675
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,319
couldn't immediately sue the christ out of the Louisiana government

676
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,799
to get all of that money back and damages.

677
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: Long also had the Governor's mansion that was built in

678
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,720
eighteen eighty seven knockdown and in its place had a

679
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:38,640
much larger Georgian mansion built. Are you familiar with the

680
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,240
capital of Louisiana.

681
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean the building, but no, I mean, I know

682
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,359
Baton Rouge is a gross but.

683
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: The capitol building itself.

684
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't know. It off the top

685
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,160
of my head. Pretty unique, unsurprising for that state.

686
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,519
Speaker 2: I mean, look at this thing.

687
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, yeah, I have seen that before. What

688
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,079
the fuck? That's horrible. Yeah, that's horrible. That's a horrible building.

689
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:04,279
Speaker 2: That's Huey Long, baby.

690
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: That is disgusting. It's like kind of brutalist, and uh,

691
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,320
it looks it looks a lot like that. The court,

692
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,159
the like famous courthouse in La. You see it in

693
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,480
like La Confidential shit, but it's in a bunch of movies.

694
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: In nineteen twenty nine, Long called a special legislative session

695
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:30,199
to enact a five cent per barrel tax on refined

696
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,000
oil production to fund his social programs.

697
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,599
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, that's whatever. Like I don't know if

698
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:40,159
that was good policy, like economically or not, but like

699
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:44,079
that's that sounds well. This par for the course of

700
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:45,519
what a politician will potentially do.

701
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: Is obviously met with opposition, and an impeachment resolution was

702
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,079
pulled against.

703
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,159
Speaker 1: Lamu oils Well. It was a big game in Louisiana.

704
00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:01,559
I'm sure sure they had friends and lobbyists all over

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that that state legislature.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen charges were listed, ranging him from blasphemy to subordination

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of murder.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he probably has someone killed at something? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, because you'll hear about what he does.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Even Long's lieutenant Governor, Paul Seer, supported impeachment. So sometimes

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it be your own guys.

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Speaker 1: Really do.

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Speaker 2: This devolved into a brawl later known as Bloody Monday.

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In the scuffle, legislators through Inkwells attacked each other with

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brass knuckles, and Long's brother Earl been a legislator in

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the neck.

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Speaker 1: The rippity, the out.

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Speaker 2: Hard to say.

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Speaker 1: I hope he, I really hope he did. Like I

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hope you just took a chunk out of that neck.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're gonna bite it into the neck,

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you gotta take a chunk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta go full vampire.

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Speaker 2: Follow In the fight, the legislator voted to remain in

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session and proceed with impeachment. Took place with dozens of witnesses,

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including a hula dancer who claimed that Long had been

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a little too frisky with her. Oh boy, but the

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impeachment failed thanks to a couple bribes dished out by Long.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it, so he outbribed the oil companies. Basically,

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mm hm, good for him. I mean yeah, at the

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end of the day, of all the legislation he tries

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to push through, this doesn't sound I mean again, like

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I don't know the economics of it, but like that

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sounds normal. Like, hey, we're going to tax this business

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a little more so we could fund the free textbooks

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I promised the state. I guess.

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Speaker 2: Following the failed impeachment attempt, Long treated his opponents pretty ruthlessly.

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He fired their relatives from state jobs and supported their

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challengers in elections. Long concluded that extra legal means would

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be needed to accomplish his goals. He said I used

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to get things done by saying please. Now I dynamite

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him out of my path.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's true that he used to get

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things done by saying please.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard him actually ask nicely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like now he just doesn't have an

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excuse to even like pretend to go through the motions

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for a minute before he dynamites you out of his way.

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Speaker 2: He then starts to kind of just surround himself with

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his bodyguards and goons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it seems like a valid thing to do.

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Speaker 2: At that point, starts criticizing the Lion Press and started

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his own newspaper, The Louisiana Progress, the truest social but stime.

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Speaker 1: Say, there's a lot of parallels starting to pop up here. Interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Long announced his candidacy for the US Senate in

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nineteen thirty. His opponent was Joseph E. Ransdell, at seventy

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two years old, Ransdell had served the US Congress since

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Long was six. The campaign became increasingly vicious, with The

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New York Times calling it as amusing as it was depressing.

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Long critic Sam Irby, set to testify on Long's corruption

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to state authorities, was abducted by Long's bodyguards shortly before

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the election.

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Speaker 1: Did they find him?

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Speaker 2: Irbi emerged after the election. He had been missing for

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four days, but surrounded by Long's bodyguards. He gave a

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radio address in which he confessed that he was actually

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asking for Long's protection. Oh yeah, sure, definitely not being

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held at gunpoint.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he definitely wasn't ever going to testify anything bad. No, No,

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he just hung out with Long for four days. Don't

772
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worry about what happened. Just hung out during hurricanes.

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Speaker 2: And he was going to do it all before the election.

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He's probably going to swing some voters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, strange interesting.

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Speaker 2: The New Orleans Mayor labeled it the most heinous public

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crime in Louisiana history. Ultimately, on September ninth, nineteen thirty,

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Long then defeated Ransdell.

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Speaker 1: In the primary, and then I assume.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd become for the Senate.

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Speaker 2: There were accusations of voter fraud against Long. Voting records

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showed people voted in alphabetical order, among them celebrities like

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Charlie Chaplin, Jack Dempsey and Babe Ruth.

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Speaker 1: That feels a little egregious. I think you can just

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make up random names, even like Johnny Telephone would be

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Speaker 2: Although his Senate term began on March fourth, nineteen thirty one,

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Long completed most of his four year term as governor,

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which did not end until May of nineteen thirty two.

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Speaker 1: So you had two jobs, Yeah, wouldn't leave the first one?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 1: What just didn't show up? Does everyone he's working for?

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Speaker 2: He declared that leaving the seat vacant would hurt Louisiana. Yeah,

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you know, can't be given it to his traitorous lieutenant governor.

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How's that go?

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Speaker 1: Even alive? Still let alone in the job.

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Speaker 2: He occupied the governorship until January of nineteen thirty two,

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and he prevented his lieutenant governor, who threatened to undo

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Long's reforms, from succeeding in the office. In October of

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nineteen thirty one, Sear learned Long was away at Mississippi

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and declared himself the state's legitimate governor.

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Speaker 1: So he just had a coup.

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Speaker 2: He threw a coup.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a governor coup. You don't see those a lot.

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Speaker 2: So Long ordered the National Guard troops to surround the

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capitol to block the coup and petition the Louisiana Supreme Court.

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He successfully argued that Syr had vacated the office of

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lieutenant governor when they went trying to assume the governorship

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and had the court eject Sir.

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Speaker 1: I assume it was his guys on the court at

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that point. M Yeah, like the Supreme courts just stacked

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with his boys.

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Speaker 2: Now, Governor and Senator elect, Long returned to complete and

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his legislative agenda with renewed strength. He continued his intimidating

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practice of presiding over legislator shouting shut up or sit

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down when legislators voice their concerns.

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Speaker 1: You know, some guy from some random Paris you don't

916
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even give a shit about. He's a real whiner, stands

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up out of his seat to monologue about something. Yeah,

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you might want to scream, shut up, I get it,

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I get it.

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Speaker 2: In a single night, Long past forty four bills in

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just two hours, one every three minutes. He later explained

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his tactics that the ends justify the means.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't need to explain it. That seems

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to be his moo the entire time. He's well.

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Speaker 2: He often joked his legislature was the finest collection of

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lawmaker's money could buy. He organized and concentrated his power

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into a political machine. A one man operation. To address

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record lowe cotton prices amid Great Depression surplus, Long proposed

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the Major Cotton Producing States Mandate a nineteen thirty two

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cotton Holiday, which would ban cotton production for the entire year.

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Speaker 1: To drive the price up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Long created a public's works program that was kind

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of unprecedent in the South, constructing roads, bridges, hospitals, schools,

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and state buildings.

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Speaker 1: God knows that state needed it. Yeah, I mean, good lord.

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Speaker 2: He drastically changes it. So during his four years as governor,

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Long increase paved highways in Louisiana from three hundred and

938
00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:39,639
thirty one miles to two thy three hundred and one miles.

939
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,159
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they did some stuff that was definitely

940
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:44,599
needed clearly.

941
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,639
Speaker 2: And constructed twy eight hundred and sixty miles of gravel roads.

942
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:52,159
By nineteen thirty six. The infrastructure program begun by Long

943
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,840
and completed nine thousand, seven hundred miles of new roads,

944
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,239
doubling Louisiana's road system.

945
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, especially like roads in particular, if that

946
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,159
shit shows up that your average dick isn't going to

947
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:10,559
be like, wow, do you do it? You know what

948
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:13,719
I mean, We'll hold on a minute. You're should be

949
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,840
happy of a real fucking road. Yeah, that rain isn't

950
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,039
going to keep you from work for three days.

951
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: Again, man, the mud. Yeah, he's petty. He built one

952
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,480
hundred and eleven bridges and started construction on the first

953
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:33,159
bridge over Mississippi entirely in Louisiana, the HUEP Long Bridge. Yeah,

954
00:48:33,679 --> 00:48:36,639
I got to name it after yourself. Of course, these

955
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:41,599
projects provided thousands of jobs. During the depression, Louisiana employed

956
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,880
more highway workers than any other state. His infrastructure spending

957
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,480
increased the state government debts from eleven million dollars in

958
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:53,039
nineteen twenty eight to one hundred and fifty million in

959
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:54,000
nineteen thirty five.

960
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: I feel like everyone was kind of willingly going into

961
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,000
debt back. I mean like FDR was doing the same

962
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:03,639
thing right, public works everywhere. It's funny that he was

963
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:05,599
an FDR opponent because he was probably taking quite a

964
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:07,599
bit of fucking federal money to build those roads.

965
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 2: His problem with FDR was FDR wasn't hardcore.

966
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: Enough that that makes sense. Yeah.

967
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: He increased LSU's funding and intervened in the university's affairs,

968
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,719
expelling seven students who criticized him in a school newspaper.

969
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:29,440
Good lord, it's like coach k ask him, what's your major? Yeah,

970
00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:33,159
you're a major. I can get you removed here.

971
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,679
Speaker 1: I feel like coach k could have gotten a kid

972
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:37,360
expelled for writing a bad op ed in this.

973
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:38,119
Speaker 2: He still can.

974
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably still can. Yeah.

975
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: I guarantee still goes to his office every day.

976
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,199
Speaker 1: What else is he gonna do?

977
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: Just life feed up on Shire's desk. Yeah, yeah, no,

978
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,360
he's He's staying there.

979
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's how I need his camp.

980
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: Boozer Long founded the LSU Medical School in New Orleans, UH.

981
00:49:57,519 --> 00:50:02,079
He also raised the of relevance of the football program.

982
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:05,519
He converted the school's military marching band into a flashy

983
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,079
show band of the South and hired Costa Rican composer

984
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:13,760
Castro Carazo as the band director.

985
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: It is to this day it's called Tiger Band. I

986
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,440
think right, it's one of the best bands in the country.

987
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,840
It's like them in Ohio State. Half the HBCU bands,

988
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,519
I guess. So the talk dude, yeah, neck play neck.

989
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 2: As well as nearly double in the size of the stadium,

990
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,599
he arranged for lower train fair so students could go

991
00:50:34,679 --> 00:50:40,000
to away games. Long's contributions resulted in LSU gaining a

992
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:44,480
Class A accreditation from the Association of American Universities. So

993
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:50,280
finally on the board, baby Yeah, Long also had night

994
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,400
schools that taught over one hundred thousand adults how to read.

995
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean again, he's like a man of the people,

996
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,239
but like for the worst reasons. Yeah, you know what

997
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:01,599
I mean.

998
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: He does a lot of good, right, but he does

999
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,400
a lot bad.

1000
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,599
Speaker 1: It's it's it's annoying, but it makes sense when you

1001
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:12,079
when you're an adult and you think about like, you know,

1002
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:13,719
you always thinking like why do I have to show

1003
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,159
my work? You know, this is why? Yeah, why didn't

1004
00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:19,480
you show my work? I got the right answer.

1005
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: Look, look at everything you got done.

1006
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:25,039
Speaker 1: It's like, well, he did it in the worst way possible.

1007
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:27,320
If you like make a country a country or a

1008
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,920
place better, but in a way that endangers the future

1009
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,119
existence of that place's institutions. You haven't done a good yamey.

1010
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,119
Speaker 2: Just can't kidnap political opponents right, right, and then force

1011
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:41,239
them to apologize really on air, right.

1012
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:44,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like it's again, like you have to do it

1013
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:45,599
the right way or it doesn't fucking matter.

1014
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:51,519
Speaker 2: His provision of free textbooks contributed to a twenty percent

1015
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:56,199
increase in school enrollment. He modernized public health facilities and

1016
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:01,119
ensured adequate conditions for the mentally ill and he essentially

1017
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:04,840
got rid of property tax through a tax reform.

1018
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: All right, good for him.

1019
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like the first two thousand dollars in

1020
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:14,599
property assessment back then was waived, so more than half

1021
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:16,599
the state's homeowners didn't have property tax.

1022
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,599
Speaker 1: So you ended upoper taxing two year over a certain threshold. Yeah, okay,

1023
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:23,599
sick I would love that here, it's fucking opposite.

1024
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:29,599
Speaker 2: Some historians have criticized other policies like high consumer taxes

1025
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:34,440
on gasoline and cigarettes, a reduced mother's pension, and low

1026
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,400
teacher salaries. Didn't fuck with teachers because again I think

1027
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,599
he uh, he just holds a grudge.

1028
00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:42,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, he hated the staff of his high school, so

1029
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:45,199
he doesn't want those people to ever make money. Uh.

1030
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:48,840
The gasoline obviously speaks for itself.

1031
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's his beef with big tobacco?

1032
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:54,679
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm actually fine with that tax. I

1033
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,679
mean whatever, dude, that's actually how just the whole country

1034
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:00,079
does it. Now. There's tax the fuck out of cigarettes.

1035
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,320
It's like a barrier to entry.

1036
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. During the first one hundred days of Roosevelt's presidency

1037
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,760
in spring of nineteen thirty three, Long's attitude towards Roosevelt

1038
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,559
and the New Deal was disappointment, where that Roosevelt had

1039
00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:18,159
no intention of radically redistributing the country's wealth. Long became

1040
00:53:18,199 --> 00:53:21,800
one of the few national politicians to oppose Roosevelt's New

1041
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,039
Deal policies from the left.

1042
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it's We talked about this a little

1043
00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:32,559
bit in the in the Kennedy episode for Joe Junior

1044
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,920
about how just like there were two there were almost

1045
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,960
like two Democratic parties, right, there were the Northern Democrats

1046
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:40,199
and the.

1047
00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 2: Southern Democratic Democrats.

1048
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:46,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, and FDR obviously from New York, and he's got

1049
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:49,239
to run a whole country and get anyone to agree

1050
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,760
to it at all. And I guess Long's just sitting

1051
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,480
there perplexed about why FDR doesn't kidnap a Republican senator

1052
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,239
from California and make them vote for it.

1053
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 2: I guess I can't do that. I do that, and

1054
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:01,639
we am.

1055
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to the guy over in Illinois and

1056
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:06,320
I'll just beat the fuck out of him.

1057
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: I got these guons, Yeah, any help. Roosevelt considered Long

1058
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,199
a radical, instated that Long, along with General Douglas MacArthur,

1059
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:18,400
we're two of the most dangerous men in America. When

1060
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,960
did he say that in the thirties, like thirty three,

1061
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,159
he was already fuck MacArthur.

1062
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, MacArthur, we need you to an episode of

1063
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,760
MacArthur because FDRs saying that in the thirties, but obviously

1064
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,639
still hires him to like run the war in the

1065
00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:39,039
Pacific along with Nimitz and uh. But then eventually obviously

1066
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,039
Truman's like, oh my god, this guy's insane during the

1067
00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:43,159
Korean War and it's.

1068
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:45,199
Speaker 2: Like just get them out, fuck out.

1069
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he needed to a whole episode his weird ship.

1070
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,800
But he was there too for the putting down the

1071
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,400
World War One rioters. MacArthur was so patent and Eisenhower though,

1072
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:54,840
I think.

1073
00:54:54,679 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: A lot of people cut their teeth there. Yeah, yeah,

1074
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,960
a bonus army. Yeah, iron on vets.

1075
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: Vets in a tent city.

1076
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 2: Not a good look.

1077
00:55:06,199 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: No, No, that's really fucking funny, though. God, who I

1078
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,679
want to know what MacArthur was saying, Probably weird shit,

1079
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:16,920
or maybe he just wanted to go to war in

1080
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,559
the Pacific then because China or Japan was already in China.

1081
00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:23,920
He just wanted to get it. Maybe that's what it was.

1082
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:27,840
But it is like with long like, yeah, Like it's

1083
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,159
funny because Roosevelt gets dunked on all the time for

1084
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:35,679
being a socialist quasi dictator piece of shit. And even still,

1085
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,480
like he obviously had to make concessions to some extent

1086
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:41,119
to like get his shit passed.

1087
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two parties.

1088
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: He doesn't run. His parties don't run the whole country.

1089
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,199
As far as I'm aware, I don't really know what

1090
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:47,880
the congressional makeup was at the time.

1091
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,639
Speaker 2: In June nineteen thirty three, in an effort to undermine

1092
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,960
Long's political dominance, Roosevelt cut him out of all the

1093
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,519
meetings on the distribution of federal funds to Louisiana in

1094
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:03,280
place Long's opponents in charge of the federal programs in

1095
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:08,199
the state. Yeah, and also to discredit Long and damage

1096
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,840
his support base, Roosevelt had Long's finances investigated by the

1097
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,639
IRS and thirty.

1098
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: Four what a fun tool that most presidents like to use.

1099
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,960
Apparently you just sick the IRS on them.

1100
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 2: In March nineteen thirty three, Long revealed a series of

1101
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:29,280
bills collectively known as the Long Plan to Redistribute Wealth.

1102
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: That's a good. That's a good. That's a good name

1103
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,840
for a bill. So it's a little play on words.

1104
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:34,119
You know.

1105
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 2: He would cap fortunes at one hundred million dollars, limit

1106
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,320
annual income to one million dollars, and cap individual inheritances

1107
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:47,559
to five million dollars. In a nationwide February nineteen thirty

1108
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:51,480
four radio broadcast, Long introduced his Share Our Wealth Plan.

1109
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:59,199
Speaker 1: Two things on this, It's well established. I think already

1110
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:04,119
that he hates everyone who he has perceived to or

1111
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:09,519
has actually wronged him. He clearly like this is the

1112
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:13,079
type of thing where there's certain people who like have

1113
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,639
something that a lot of people might agree with, but

1114
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:21,719
their motives are clearly not pure. So like, to me,

1115
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,079
this just sounds like he's obviously always been up his

1116
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:29,400
own ass, giant head, wanted to like just wanted to

1117
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,480
be president from a young age. I think he was mad.

1118
00:57:33,679 --> 00:57:35,840
I think he grew up angry that he was poor.

1119
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:41,400
I think he just hated rich people, which I mean,

1120
00:57:43,239 --> 00:57:46,000
which is bad, because he does. I don't think he's

1121
00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:48,719
actually mad that they have money. He's mad that he

1122
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,519
didn't get to get to grow up in that money,

1123
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,199
that he had to work his fucking dick off to

1124
00:57:54,239 --> 00:57:58,039
get to a position of power. And he's just putting.

1125
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: It to him, he becomes as corrupt as they are.

1126
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: And it is. Yeah. And so the second thing I

1127
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,679
was going to say was, you better believe the first

1128
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:13,480
person to skirt those rules on inheritance and making too

1129
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:17,880
much money is going to be fucking Huey Long. Yeah,

1130
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,920
like he's not going to abide by his own rule.

1131
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:20,840
He doesn't.

1132
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,079
Speaker 2: Ever, The legislation would use the wealth from the Long

1133
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:28,159
plan to guarantee every family a basic household grant of

1134
00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:32,239
five thousand dollars and a minimum annual income of one

1135
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,440
third of the average family homestead value and income. Long

1136
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:41,000
supplemented his plan with proposals for free college, in vocational training,

1137
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:46,199
veterans benefits, federal assistance to farmers, public works projects, greater

1138
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:51,760
federal economic regulation, a thirty dollars monthly elderly pension, a

1139
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:57,519
month's vacation for every worker, a thirty hour workweek, a

1140
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,280
ten billion dollar land reclamation project to end the dust bowl,

1141
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:06,800
and free medical service, and a war on disease. Led

1142
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,920
by the Mayo brothers, these reforms Long claimed would end

1143
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,079
the Great Depression. The plans were widely criticized and labeled

1144
00:59:14,119 --> 00:59:16,920
as being impossible by economics.

1145
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,559
Speaker 1: They probably were he got some of it done. Sounds

1146
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:27,039
like you proposed social security.

1147
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,599
Speaker 2: With the Senate unwilling to support his proposals. In February

1148
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:31,599
nineteen thirty four, Long formed the Share Our Wealth Society,

1149
00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:35,400
a national network of local clubs that operated in opposition

1150
00:59:35,719 --> 00:59:37,840
to the Democratic Party in Roosevelt.

1151
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,039
Speaker 1: So he just was like creating his own further to

1152
00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:44,559
the left party essentially.

1153
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. By nineteen thirty five, the society had over seven

1154
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:51,960
point five million members and twenty seven thousand clubs.

1155
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:56,599
Speaker 1: Do you think anyone ever left after they accidentally got rich? No,

1156
00:59:57,039 --> 00:59:59,400
think any of you had like they had. It was

1157
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,400
like a small busin This owner who's just like under

1158
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,760
the thumb of life somehow blows up and he's like,

1159
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,280
uh h huh, this is pretty cool. I actually am

1160
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,360
sharing my wealth by employing like twenty people.

1161
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,159
Speaker 2: Now, Uh, having money's kind of dope.

1162
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go just stops responding to letters.

1163
01:00:20,519 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: What happened to Hugh?

1164
01:00:21,719 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. We're not here anymore, Move to

1165
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,239
a bigger house.

1166
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: Popular support for long Share Our Wealth program raised the

1167
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:36,159
possibility of a nineteen thirty six presidential bid against FDR

1168
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,159
Long's consolidation of power led to talk of armed opposition

1169
01:00:40,239 --> 01:00:44,679
from his enemies in Louisiana. In January nineteen thirty five,

1170
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:49,519
an anti Long paramilitary organization called the Square Deal Association

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was formed. Standard Oil employees formed a Square Deal Association

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in Baton Rouge, organizing themselves in a militia company and

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demanding direct action.

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Speaker 1: You had to grab a gun a lot back then

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to uh for business reasons. Every union apparently, these guys

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who were like the opposite of a union or something.

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I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess just the big business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: On January twenty fifth, nineteen thirty five, these Square Dealers

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now armed Seese. The East Baton Rouge Parish courthouse long

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had Governor Allen because it was his boy that took

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over the governorship. Right a part of the Senate execute

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emergency measures in Baton Rouge. He called in the National Guard,

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declared martial law, banned public gatherings of two or more people,

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but bade the publication of criticism of state officials.

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Speaker 1: Ah, but that's constitutional. Certainly, you can't have.

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Speaker 2: More than two people in public.

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Speaker 1: How's that even possible? And in that state too, Like wait,

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was just justin Baton Rouge.

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Speaker 2: Just in Baton Rouge.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean yeah, you tried to do that in

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Louisiana or in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: Good luck?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: The square dealers left the courthouse, but there was a

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brief armed skirmish at the Baton Rouge airport. Tear gas

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and live ammunition were fired. One person was wounded, but

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there were no fatalities. In the summer of nineteen thirty five,

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Long called two special legislative sessions in Louisiana. Bills were

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passed in rapid fire succession without being read or discussed.

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The new laws further centralized Longs control over the state

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by creating new Long appointed state agencies. A state Bond

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and Tax Board holding sole authority to approve loans to

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local governments, a new state Printing Board which would withhold

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official printer status from anybody that was uncooperative.

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Speaker 1: I mean that is straight up like Soviet shit at

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that point.

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Speaker 2: A new Board of Election Supervisors which would appoint all

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the pole watchers, and state Board of Censors.

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Speaker 1: Again straight up just like Soviet communist fascist insane shit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, see Stalinism, Yeah, ashes, that is.

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Speaker 1: Straight up both of those states I mean it's you know,

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horseshoe theory basically at that point, but he's just yeah,

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he doesn't again the like that's why you can't celebrate

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good things that come from like I don't know, I

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guess you can an extent on pure motives, but like

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this guy was only ever in it for himself.

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Speaker 2: They stripped away the remaining powers of the mayor of

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New Orleans.

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01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:47,559
Speaker 1: Long he just gets to lead the Marti gro Operata posted.

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Speaker 2: He had taken over every board and commission in New

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Orleans except Community Chest and the Red Cross.

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Speaker 1: Good for him.

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Speaker 2: A September seventh session past forty two bills, the most

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extreme likely aimed at Roosevelt and his federal agents, authorized

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Louisiana to fine and imprison anyone who infringed on the

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powers preserved to the state in the Tenth Amendment in

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the US Constitution.

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Speaker 1: So any federal agent that comes down there just getting arrested.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, try to stop me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: On September eighth, nineteen thirty five, Long traveled to the

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state capitol to pass a bill that with Jerry mannered

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the district of an opponent, Judge Benjamin Pavey, who had

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held his position for twenty eight years. At nine to

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01:04:37,719 --> 01:04:42,800
twenty pm, just after passage of the bill effectively removed Pavey,

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the judge's son in law, Karl Wise, approached Long and,

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01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:52,039
according to the generally accepted version of events, fired a

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single shot with a handgun from four feet away, striking

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Long in the torso. Long's bodyguards, nick named the skull Crushers,

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01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,320
then fired up Weis, great guy, with their pistols, killing

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01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,079
him and autops he found that Weiss had been shot

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at least sixty times.

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01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, great guy. The skull crushers. What do you even

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01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,199
that's I mean, that's like it's like Harry Potter, shit,

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01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,840
he come Long in his death eaters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah uh, he's like, I swear he's not even trying

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01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:28,960
to hide it.

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01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,039
Speaker 1: And I was like, I swear, I'm a liberator. These

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are my goons. I call them the skull Crushers. We're

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the good guys.

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Speaker 2: This has to be like the biggest fear of what

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01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,039
ma'm Donnie will do in New York. Right, it's any

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01:05:41,199 --> 01:05:42,960
like I'm not saying he will, but I'm saying this.

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Speaker 1: Is He's not gonna have skull crushers. He should. He

1257
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,039
probably needs them. He's not gonna have skull crushers, but

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01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:52,239
it would be yeah, that type of thing where event

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01:05:52,639 --> 01:05:56,320
I don't know's there's already the president already hates dissent

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01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,760
and tries to fight it like he sues the shit out.

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01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,559
At least he does it through legal avitus. I guess

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,800
he's not sending goons to burn down the New York

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01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,840
Times or what. I just sues CBS. Fair enough, fair enough.

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01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: Long ran down a foot of stairs and across the

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01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,800
Capitol grounds, hailing a car to take him to Our

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:20,159
Lady of Lake Hospital. Long then died at four ten

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01:06:20,199 --> 01:06:23,800
am on September tenth, thirty one hours after being shot.

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01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,079
According to different sources, his last words were either, I

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01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:30,760
wonder what will happen to my poor university boys?

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01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:36,079
Speaker 1: You know, go Doggas always singing. It's just it just

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01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:36,719
means more.

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01:06:37,199 --> 01:06:38,199
Speaker 2: Just means more in the sec.

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01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,239
Speaker 1: But it just means more. The last thing he said

1274
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,719
was talking about the LSU football team.

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01:06:44,119 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 2: Or God, don't let me die. I have so much

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01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:47,800
to do.

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01:06:48,639 --> 01:06:49,679
Speaker 1: I gotta say it's B.

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01:06:50,239 --> 01:06:51,199
Speaker 2: I hope it's A.

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01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: It's probably a. A's yeah, it's a.

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01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 2: B makes for a better you know, political story but

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,400
if it makes more sense.

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Speaker 1: If he dogs, Yeah, it makes more sense. Good tigers.

1283
01:07:05,239 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: Over two hundred thousand people traveled to Baton Rouge to

1284
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:12,760
attend long September twelfth funeral. His remains were buried on

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01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,920
the grounds of the Capitol. A statue depicting Long was

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01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:20,360
constructed on his grave. Long's death brought relief to the

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01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,000
Roosevelt administration, which would win in a landslide in the

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01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:29,119
nineteen thirty sixth election. They thought he was obviously the

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01:07:29,159 --> 01:07:32,440
biggest threat, that he was going to the presidency.

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01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:34,599
Speaker 1: Run and tried it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

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01:07:36,159 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: Who knows. Man.

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01:07:37,519 --> 01:07:40,519
Speaker 1: What's funny though, is that like Long was very like

1293
01:07:40,679 --> 01:07:45,800
anti rich and wealth distribution, but he probably hated Communists. Yeah,

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01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:48,199
he probably thought like Russians were dog shit.

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01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: If I had to guess, Long though, also wasn't really

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01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:54,559
a fan of the Communists.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't surprise me, which is bizarre.

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01:07:58,159 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: He's very communist tendencies.

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01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: Extremely I mean, it's just wealth to I mean, I guess,

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I don't know. I don't know how he differs really,

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01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,239
but maybe he just didn't like you know why, maybe

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01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:11,079
because a lot of the Communists in America were rich.

1303
01:08:11,159 --> 01:08:13,519
Speaker 2: Case Yeah, it could be the case.

1304
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of kids coming out of university.

1305
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:19,399
Speaker 2: Evidence later surface that suggests that Long was accidentally shot

1306
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,560
by his bodyguards skull crushers proponents of this theory as

1307
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,720
sas or. Proponents of this theory assert Loung was caught

1308
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,840
in the crossfire as his bodyguards shot Weiss and a

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01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,840
bullet ricocheted off the marble walls that hit him.

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01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: Eh so kind of like the JFK conspiracy theory magic bullet.

1311
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,960
The magic bullet was from his own guys, like trying

1312
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,960
to fire back, but they were confused or as we've

1313
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,680
covered before, violently hungover.

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01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is the story of Huey Long, King Louisiana.

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01:08:52,039 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: The Kingfish, the King figure. I didn't know anything about that.

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01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,399
I I'm glad I figured out that All the King's

1317
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:00,359
Men was about him.

1318
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:02,039
Speaker 2: But okay, glad we got that.

1319
01:09:02,119 --> 01:09:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, I didn't really know anything

1320
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,399
anything about about Huey Long. I knew the name, but

1321
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,399
that was that was it.

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01:09:12,079 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 2: Would you say, that's what you learned every day?

1323
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: Pretty much? That? I mean, he did a lot of

1324
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,520
good for all the wrong reasons.

1325
01:09:22,039 --> 01:09:23,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's today's hitler?

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01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: It was huge long, it's for sure, like if God,

1327
01:09:28,079 --> 01:09:31,239
I don't know. It's just like it seems like he

1328
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:33,840
really just wanted to take money from rich people and

1329
01:09:34,039 --> 01:09:41,239
like also secure votes to keep himself in power. And

1330
01:09:41,239 --> 01:09:43,479
that's how he did it because all the poor people

1331
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,960
are going to vote for him. Obviously, I don't think

1332
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,039
he cares much for him.

1333
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: He might. I think he maybe had a at one point,

1334
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:56,520
good heart. I don't know, it's hard to say. He's

1335
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,920
just like, I really made these promises in the campaign trail,

1336
01:09:59,000 --> 01:09:59,880
so I gotta deliver.

1337
01:10:00,039 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: He stuck to it. I guess, yeah, he just he

1338
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,520
could not deliver. He doesn't like to lose, obviously.

1339
01:10:07,399 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: I mean he's punching old dudes in the fucking face.

1340
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, But he's Todays. I mean, he

1341
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,279
was murdered people.

1342
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:19,119
Speaker 2: Probably probably who knows. You'll never find those bodies.

1343
01:10:19,279 --> 01:10:23,039
Speaker 1: The sums. Oh that's that's that was gator shit twenty

1344
01:10:23,039 --> 01:10:24,359
minutes after they dumped it there.

1345
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: So I'll say, allegedly killed some guys.

1346
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it.

1347
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,159
Speaker 2: I don't want his family to come after me.

1348
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: It feels like his skull crushers probably handled some business.

1349
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:33,800
He's certainly by.

1350
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,359
Speaker 2: The way crush of skull. The likelyhood that they will

1351
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:37,600
die pretty high.

1352
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: For as much as he championed people getting you know, money,

1353
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,640
he would have needed no problem firing anyone just for

1354
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:50,640
looking at him sideways. Yeah, like fucking torpedoing their their careers.

1355
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: That's our episode for today. We love you guys, thanks

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01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,359
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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,640
I haven't hit yet this year, but we're due. We're

1363
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:18,239
gonna get one.

1364
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: Have you any like top five top tens hit? I

1365
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:21,039
don't know.

1366
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,239
Speaker 2: Okay, the guy I had today, I didn't give him

1367
01:11:24,279 --> 01:11:27,239
out in the official columns, Okay, just don't. I don't

1368
01:11:27,239 --> 01:11:28,880
want to take credit fair enough, fair enough. I also

1369
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,920
don't want to fire out like twenty picks to people,

1370
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:33,039
right That just.

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01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: Seems because they're not gonna pet twenty guys.

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01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I go with like my three most confident

1373
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:38,920
I'll sprinkle some other guys.

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01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.

1375
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 2: And one of the guys that sprinkled was in the

1376
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,399
lead today, just didn't tailor more, didn't.

1377
01:11:45,159 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: Get done, couldn't couldn't close.

1378
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: Well, at least he wasn't Shane Lowry double double baby

1379
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:58,520
in and out O cost some attorney. Yeah, either way,

1380
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,319
we love you, guests. Make sure to leave review five

1381
01:12:01,319 --> 01:12:05,520
stars please and thank you on Apple and Spotify. Probably

1382
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,800
need it now. Somebody came after us with a one

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Speaker 1: Oh no, they said.

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01:12:10,279 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: Something about you. I guess, just dismissing Epstein.

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01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: I didn't I know, I didn't I know. I just said,

1387
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,840
how much bandwidth do you want me to fucking put

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towards this?

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Speaker 2: Subscribe to our YouTube as well. You see our pretty faces.

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We're very hungover right now.

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01:12:27,319 --> 01:12:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing right on my head.

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01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,079
Speaker 2: I haven't drank that hard in a while.

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01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: I know at the beginning of the night. You're like

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01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,560
just or when I first saw you, were like, I'm

1395
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:36,159
just going.

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Speaker 2: After it today, taking a full swing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, taking a full swing. Yeah.

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01:12:41,279 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: But for rough Fox, I'm damn re Jester. You just

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01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:44,600
got a saucer