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Now he's covering the Sixers and the NBA four, the athletic.
We got the one, the only Tony Jones on the line. Tony,
how you living?
Speaker 3: I'm good man, Thanks for having me, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, man, blessing having you on our show.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: How long has it been now since you moved on
from the Utah Jazz portion of covering covering in the
NBA for the athletic and heading out to Philly to
cover the Sixers.
Speaker 4: I think the irony of it is, I actually covered
the jazz a little bit more this year than I
did last year. But I physically moved in September. So
what is that month nine? And what are we a
month three? So roughly six months now, So six months
since I physically moved out of the state of Utah.
I been back twice, I was including I was back
last week.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's been.
Speaker 4: It's been an interesting it's been an interest in six
months for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what's so, what percentage would you say
of your bandwidth is allocated to covering jazz material?
Speaker 3: Still?
Speaker 4: Probably well, now that you know all the the tanking
stuff is it's kind of yesterday's news. Probably not as
much towards the end of the season. I'm probably all
six ers now. But once uh, the Jazz get into
the lottery and once they actually make a draft pick,
uh and heading the free agency, I'll be there to
cover some I expect to be back and covering the
Salt Lake City Summer League this just July before I
go to Vegas and cover Summer Weakue in Vegas.
Speaker 5: Tony, you mean when the Jazz draft.
Speaker 1: Oh, ten percent chance? Ten point five percent chance?
Speaker 4: You guys ready for my aj De boncer you tah
Jazz hot take?
Speaker 1: Let's go go?
Speaker 4: You ready for it?
Speaker 1: I've been ready. I've been ready. I was born ready
for this.
Speaker 4: Okay, If the Jazz draft aj De Bonsa, my hot
take is that they will winning NBA championship within three years.
Speaker 5: Ooh, I like that hot take?
Speaker 2: You feel do you feel like? I mean, look, you
know Jazz history. I was looking at it as far
as their draft picks and things of that nature, where
they've actually you know, I mean, it's it's a rarity
for them to get into that two slot. I think
most of the highest spot they've typically been at the three.
One year they they drafted I think Dominiqu Wilkins. They
ended up training him because he wasn't gonna play. He
didn't want to play, and you saw all those things, right, Like,
Historically the Jazz have not been all that lucky with
their lottery selection position. How do you feeling about BA
or excuse me, Utah Jazz opportunity to get BYU's product
aj Tabonsa in the lottery this year, AG is going
number one. The last odds I saw was Jazz at
ten and a half percent. Do you think the puppeteers
of the NBA maybe give them a solid even though
all this tanking stuff has occurred, and they give them
a solid and maybe they get it that number one
overall pick.
Speaker 4: Now, to be clear, I do not feel good about
utah chances of getting number one. But if they did,
if like Lightning Struck, you know, the seas party, cats
and dogs started living together, things like that, and they
got the number one pick, then I can see the
Jazz winning the NBA Championship and within three years of
getting aded the boss. Because that listen, Kyante, George Lowry,
Marking and Jaron Jackson Jr.
Speaker 3: You know you already have.
Speaker 4: You know, three guys who are like All Star level
kind of players. They're all three of those guys, you know,
two of them have already seen an All Star Game
in their career. Kyante is going to eventually see an
All Star Game at some point in his career. But
you know the boser is is you know, he's another
you know, I lived through Prime Tracy McGrady. He's the
closest thing I've seen through Prime Tracy McGrady might not
have quite the the the top end athleticism Emmigrady did,
but the ability, you know, the ability to control a
game at six' nine on both ends of the, floor
from possession to.
Speaker 3: POSSESSION i know.
Speaker 4: We talk a lot About AJ's, defense but you, KNOW
i know what the upside there, is you, know the
the ability to manipulate a game from possession of. POSSESSION
aj already does that, really really. Well and if you
give The jazz that kind of level of a talent
to go with those first three three, GUYS i mean,
there you, know he's walking into a situation where he's
gonna win fifty to fifty five, games uh in his
rookie year. Alone so it'll be it would Be AJ's
probably the the the missing piece to what The jazz
has and what they kind of. Need and, uh you,
KNOW i think that the sky would be the limit for.
THEM i took them up there With Oklahoma city And San.
Antonio if if if The.
Speaker 3: Jazz weren't able to get lucky like that in the.
Speaker 2: Lottery All i'm saying is The mavericks had a one
point eight percent chance of getting the number one overall
pick after that done, trade and they got.
Speaker 3: Him Be league Like.
Speaker 4: Dallas they don't Like utah.
Speaker 2: Right, Now, well they've never liked the. Jazz they didn't
like The New orleans. Jazz they didn't like The utah.
Jazz no one's ever liked the.
Speaker 3: Jazz, true very, true very. TRUE i like the, jazz
but it has nothing to do with, Me SO i
like to see them In.
Speaker 5: Chicago that's not.
Speaker 2: Happening well, yeah well that's a little bit of a
Selfish that is.
Speaker 5: Selfish selfish desires don't come.
Speaker 1: TRY i.
Speaker 2: Know, yes, indeed we Got Tony JONES nbam insider representing
the athletic talking some ball with us today here on
Your UTAH Espn radio. Network give me an, overall you, know,
analysis what you've enjoyed with the N C douaa. Tournament
there's been, undulations there's been, upsets there's been a little
bit of A cinderella run with some of these. Teams
we've seen an eleven seed get into the sweet. Sixteen
give me a kind of an overall grade of entertainment
level thus far in THE Nc Double.
Speaker 4: TOURNAMENT i think the thing That i've learned the most is,
that you, know you AND c should be trying to
Get ben McCollum to be their head. Coach so, yeah
that's probably the one THING i. Learned you, know you
Watch iowa and you know what they've been able to pull,
off you, know and you, know being In nebraska last,
night knocking off.
Speaker 3: The number one seed last, week.
Speaker 4: You, know just being able to and being able to
knock off you, know being able to knock Off florida
basically In. Tampa you, Know florida basically at home. Game you,
know the sets that they, run the offense that they
run is just like really.
Speaker 3: Beautiful Bennet sturts has been really, good you.
Speaker 4: Know so you, Know i've been all in on On.
Iowa and you know what This cinderella run. Is cinderella
comes in all stations and sizes and, forms you. Know
so you, KNOW i think that a lot of PEOPLE
la meant, that you, know the Mid major didn't you,
know quote unquote make a. Run you, know we didn't
get a mid major to get out of the first two,
rounds but we got In iowa that was able to
knock off a number one seed and then knock off
the top another top four, seed albeit that you, know
they Knew nebraska really well because they Played nebraska.
Speaker 3: Three times this.
Speaker 4: Year SO i, MEAN i, think you, Know cinderella could
come in in multiple definitions In iowa certainly kind of
filled that role so far this this. Tournament but you,
KNOW i think the other thing that's really.
Speaker 3: Struck me is just how dominant.
Speaker 4: The two number one seeds have been that you, know
we thought we're going to be, dominating And i'm talking
About michigan And. Arizona You arizona Crushed arkansas last, night
just really crushed. Them scored over one hundred, points only
made six, threes which, means you, know they just went
inside and just kind of dominated in the paint and you,
know The razorbacks had you, know no recourse.
Speaker 3: Defensively so you, Know arizona's.
Speaker 4: Been everything that we we've fought And i'm looking forward
to seeing What michigan can do tonight Against.
Speaker 2: Albela, yeah the way that the brackets kind of play
down the. Seedings do you feel like it's a little
bit of a travesty that you, KNOW u OF a
And michigan could end up meeting each, other that it
seemingly those those teams seem like they are the best
teams in this.
Speaker 4: Tournament, yeah, WELL i, MEAN i don't think it's a
travesty Because Duke Pete. Michigan, yeah so you, Know duke
GETS i, mean if you if you knock, off if
you knock off the if the two teams that are
at the top of the food chain in terms of
what the resumes are they meet the new neutral floor
and the one team, wins then the one team gets a,
chance you, know should be the top overall. Seed so you,
know you, KNOW i do think that it's shaping up
that you, know Of michigan And.
Speaker 3: Arizona meet in the final four in the.
Speaker 4: Semifinals you, know that's probably going to be a national championship.
Game BUT i do also think That duke.
Speaker 3: Earned you, know the number one overall.
Speaker 4: Seed duke's just really being hurt because they don't Have Caleb.
Speaker 3: Foster they need to Get Kayler foster.
Speaker 4: Back because With Caleb, foster that was the one guard
that they had that was really dynamic off the, dribble
could really break the paint and just you, know kind
of bend the defense off the. Dribble and without, him you,
Know Kayden boozer has, been you, know a lot better
than he was at the beginning of the season in
terms of putting pressure on the. Defense but you, Know
foster's by far the best guard off the, dribble and you,
know they really really really missed that, component uh and
it's caused them to look kind of ordinary in the
first two. Rounds and you, KNOW i don't know what
is his status is, tonight whether he's playing or whether
he's not. Playing but if he doesn't, PLAY i MEAN
i can really See Saint john's you, know making that
an uncomfortable forty minutes for.
Speaker 2: Them, tony give me a synopsis of the Buy basketball
season from your.
Speaker 1: Perch what did you, see what did you, like what
did you?
Speaker 2: Dislike and you, know personnel, wise obviously there was some
impact with season any, Injuries but give me a little
breakdown from your.
Speaker 3: Perch, so you, KNOW i really wish they had stayed.
Speaker 4: HEALTHY i really, wish you, know, obviously you Know Richie,
songers you, know.
Speaker 3: Getting hurt that that changed the entire trajectory of the.
SEASON i thought, that.
Speaker 4: You, know their late season uh kind of, resurgence kind of,
refinding refinding themselves a little. BIT i thought, that you,
KNOW i was even more sold on ON aj after
watching you, know just his competitiveness down the. Stretch and you,
know they got some wins that they that they really
needed to. Have you, know they got some wins that you,
know became the difference between them staying as a six
seed or falling down to an.
Speaker 3: Eight or a nine.
Speaker 4: Seed and AND i, think you, KNOW aj and to
a lesser, Degree rob right both you, know uh spearheaded.
That so you, know it's it just became really. Tough you,
know we uh The texas team that they lost to
turned out to, be you, know much better than an eleven. Seed,
uh they turned out to be, underseated you, know but you,
know it became really. Tough you, know when a team
knows and they have a week to to prepare for,
you and and a team knows that you've got you
guys that are going to score the, ball and you
know essentially nobody else is going to be able to
score the, ball it becomes a little bit easier to,
defend you, know so in that, sense you, know, Definitely,
uh it really hurt for them to not have all
of their. Guys but you, KNOW i think that you,
know they had a competitive a good, season not a great.
SEASON i definitely think they wish and thought they had
a chance to still be playing at this. Point you,
know BUT i think that it's going to be a sling.
Speaker 3: Shot going uh into next.
Speaker 4: Year you, know they're going to have a similar guy
uh And Bruce. Brant you, know they they got they've
got a good class.
Speaker 3: Coming in and we'll see if they're going.
Speaker 4: To be able to pick off one or one or
both of THOSE u V u guys that just entered
entered the uh.
Speaker 3: The transfer portal because both of those guys are really.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 2: YEAH i Mean jake Wall lean just into the portal
today as. Well that he STARTED i want to, say
twenty something, games twenty nine, GAMES i think For. Clemson
he was committed to Be yu has family. Connections ended
up At Utah Post. Mission i'm intrigued to see where
he ends up as.
Speaker 3: WELL i like.
Speaker 4: THAT i like him because he's a six foot ten.
Guy yep that you, know he handles the ball a lot.
Speaker 3: Better than his size.
Speaker 4: Dictates he handles the, ball you, know like a six
foot three guys a lot more athletic than than he.
Looks but you, know a lot of by you guys
are a lot more athletic than he.
Speaker 3: Looks, sorry don't don't he just a.
Speaker 1: JOKE i love, It hey, MAN i Love Jim. Rats
you know WHAT i? MEAN i love. Them Jim rats
just go down all the the the. Therapy scrappy, Guys Jim.
Rats you know you're not gonn outwork.
Speaker 5: Him it started at twenty nine games played in thirty.
Speaker 1: Five, yeah he's a nice he's a nice. PROBLEM i
like him a.
Speaker 4: LOT i liked him a lot Of utah, Though but
the The jackson homecome, kid that that's the that's the.
Speaker 3: GUY i love. Him and if you, know IF i.
Speaker 4: Were you B, Yu i'd be, Uh i'd be going
into the old and il.
Speaker 3: Fund let's just put it that.
Speaker 2: Way, yeah anybody else out there with Like utah and
extra LD s connections that let's say they do enter
the portal that you'd like to see and they either
be what you Or utah uniform coming back home to the.
Speaker 3: State, well The Utah state kid just entered the.
Speaker 1: Portal, yeah the sixth.
Speaker 4: Man, yeah the six man of the. Year what WHAT'S
i forget his, name but you know he's a he's
a four five can shoot the, ball, yes, yeah you
know he's a four to. Five you can shoot the
ball a little, bit very very very scrappy and physical down.
LOW i didn't mean you use the words scrappy, again
but he's you, know very physical down. Low you can
run picking rolls WHEN i run a little pick and
pop with. HIM i worry about the athleticism as as
it pertains to what he's going to see in a,
bit what he would see in the big.
Speaker 3: Twelve, uh from from night to.
Speaker 4: Night but you know he's a guy that THAT i
could easily, see you, KNOW byu going AFTER i like
him quite a bit At Utah.
Speaker 2: State, YEAH i just, wonder you know what strategically be
what he wants to retain from the current. Roster are
they going to try to retain? Coastic is is he
a part of the? Future do they like? Him is
B doo THE G?
Speaker 1: League you? KNOW i guess TRANSFER i really do you
know WHAT i?
Speaker 2: Mean BECAUSE i mean Be do was a little bit doo.
Doo no offense to, him no offense to. Him you,
know he's a little bit doo. Doo but, like And
i'm not saying he doesn't have, potentially he's got a
good foundational skill. Set he's almost a seven, footer he's
got a good wing, span he moves. Well he actually
handles the ball pretty well from the top of the
key when he's uh he's kind of distributing. It but his,
basketball like he's super, low doesn't have a whole lot of.
Wherewithal he is a shot, blocker mediocre media you, know
average shot blocker gets there the core uh tangible skill sets,
there but you just don't see him actually uh go
out there and be. Effective so give me a little
breakdown to the, roster who be what you should.
Speaker 4: RETAIN i would retaining closer because you need all those
shooters that you can GET B.
Speaker 3: DOO i, would you, know.
Speaker 4: Look if if IF, i IF i don't have any
other big at, ALL i will probably.
Speaker 3: RETAIN i think he's a good rim. PROTECTOR i think
there's value in.
Speaker 4: That BUT i, was you, know like like a lot
of b yu, GUYS i was really disappointed at. Him,
dean what what's the how do you Pronounce dean's last
Night Dean?
Speaker 2: Ruker are you talking About rukert the? Freshman is he
coming in or is he taking a?
Speaker 5: Mission will is going on the?
Speaker 2: Mission Dean's dean's Playing will open shots the OTHER chimpsi
product like the six foot, eleven six ten.
Speaker 1: Kid, yeah he's going to.
Speaker 3: Serve, Okay So Dean, KIRK i don't know If i've
the first to say, it but he's GOT nba. Potential, Yeah.
Speaker 4: And my guess is if he comes, in he's going
to not only is he going to play right, away
at some, POINT i think he's going to be in
the starting, lineup terrific, athlete terrific, shooter you, know really
hardened on THE au.
Speaker 3: Circuit he's he's he's really he's a real.
Speaker 4: Get so you, KNOW i, definitely you, know keep an
eye on. HIM i Think Bruce branch is a top
five pick in the twenty twenty SEVEN nba, draft you, know.
Speaker 2: Which is because Because bruce, reclassified he should be he
should be a part.
Speaker 5: Of the two thousand did? Classified?
Speaker 1: Yeah pretty, insane that's.
Speaker 4: Crazy, Yeah, Yeah Bruce branch is terrific and and he's
a true two way guy can handle the, ball can
can really get it done, offensively and you know he's
he's terrific.
Speaker 3: Defensively six six sixty.
Speaker 4: Seven will be interesting to see what kind of impact
that he has uh next year as. Well BUT i
mean he's he's gonna you, know the new pipeline that's
started in terms of lottery picks coming to B, yu
he's certainly going to to to to retain. IT i,
think you, know it'd be interesting to see what happens With.
Rob does he stay or you, know does does he
does he? GO i don't know.
Speaker 2: What he said unless he goes. Professional so it's either
see there's professional or but he'd be a second round. Pick,
yeah he's second round Like. Richie you, know speculation is
that he's. Staying he just released what is the cost? Ad,
yeah he's doing some nil. STUFF i, mean you, know
THE nba doesn't have many Like Tim hardaway's, anymore right
THAT i grew up.
Speaker 4: With so the thing is interesting Will rob because at
the beginning of the, season you, KNOW i THOUGHT i was,
like you, know no way this kid has a chance
to play in THE, Nba and then you, KNOW i.
Speaker 3: Saw him in a little bit of a futured, role.
Speaker 4: And he you, know he gets to the basket off
the dribble at AN nba, Level so that skill alone
is going to possibly give him a. Chance but as
a small, guard there are a couple of things that
he's gotta. Do he's got to get way way way better,
defensively he's got to get way better and he's going
to have to shoot the ball a lot better than
he has up to this point in his.
Speaker 3: Career you.
Speaker 4: Know SO i think that he needs to come back
and he needs to prove that he can run a.
Team you, know he's proven that he can, score and
he's proved that he can can can play. Offense but
he THE, nba like you, said you, know with small,
guards you, know they're not Many Trey, Young's they're not
Many darius A. Cuffs you, know if you're a small
guard Like, Rob you're gonna have to, prove you, know
that you can run a, team that you can, defend
that you can make shots when you get, it when
you get open.
Speaker 3: Looks you.
Speaker 4: Know SO i Think rob will be best served coming
back and kind of be in the hub of next
YEAR'S byu team BECAUSE i think that that's what would
happen him And. Bruce but you, KNOW i think there's
a lot to be done with the, roster BUT i
think the the potential is there for them to, have you,
know a top, ten top fifteen type season next.
Speaker 2: Year. Yeah, Eight cuff is like six two six, three
Though Rob wright's like five eleven maybe five eleven and a.
Speaker 3: Half. YEAH i walked by him IN aj.
Speaker 4: Last saturday at The Delta, center and, Yeah rob's not six.
Speaker 2: Feet, listen that's What i'm, Saying, LIKE i, MEAN i see.
HIM i, mean, LOOK i grew up in you, Know Tim,
Hardaway Kevin, Johnson, ERA Bj, armstrong you know these you,
know undersized point. GUARDS i just no one's getting them.
Them no one wants him anymore, there you. Know so
he's got to Be he's going to improve his defense as, Well,
Right he's got to utilize that fast, twitched, mongoose honey
badger like mentality in order to get, there right to THE.
Speaker 4: Nba, well so you, know let's let's let's put let's
let's Highlight Jose. Alvarado why has he been able to
stay in THE? Nba and my opinion is that he's
been able to stay in THE nba for like two,
Reasons he's been able to, defend stay in front of,
guys not be not not be taking in.
Speaker 3: Defensively and he makes open.
Speaker 4: Shots you know he's he's not as he's not nearly
as ball in hand as you, know five to eleven
six foot guy would would. Suggest you, know he plays
off the ball a, lot but when he gets an open,
shot that SHOT's going. In and when he's on the
floor and he's defending the, guy he's making life difficult
for the guy that he's. Defending and that's kind of
what you have to be at that stots in THE
nba rapid fire.
Speaker 2: Record who wins THE ncaa? Tournament who's the champion this?
Speaker 4: Year is he going to be The Michigan arizona though
at this POINT i can't see anybody other than than
those two.
Speaker 2: WINNING i know Kay why wants to build a pro
pipeline and he wants to pro, analytics pro. SCHEMATICS i
saw too Much Iso boa fans were complaining about. It
does he need to change it up a little bit,
schematically offensively and defensively in order to win games at
the cleature.
Speaker 4: LEVEL i think it has to be a balance BECAUSE
i think if you, keep if you recruit a J
demandsas of the world and The Bruce branches of the,
world and even The Rob right of the, world you're
doing it with the promise to those guys to showcase those.
Guys so in that, sense you, know there's gotta be some.
Isolation but in the but in the other, sense you,
KNOW i think the ball could have moved this year
a little bit more than it. Did AND i actually
don't put that ON a J i put that On Rob.
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