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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the remarkable sound recording of a Palladeon beamship

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<v Speaker 2>from nineteen eighty that was taken in Switzerland out in

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<v Speaker 2>a farm a farmer named Billy Meyer, who was allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to take photos of this specific type of ship and

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<v Speaker 2>understand how it works. And not only was the inner

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<v Speaker 2>engines of this UAP recorded, but also information was divulged

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<v Speaker 2>on how it works, its operations, the time it takes

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<v Speaker 2>from the PLDs constellation to Earth, and what happens to

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<v Speaker 2>the occupants of the ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, this is Cliff.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we are celebrating the forty fifth anniversary of what

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<v Speaker 2>is possibly one of the most remarkable contacts ever recorded

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<v Speaker 2>in our century, which is that Billy Meyer Pladean contact

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<v Speaker 2>which happened in the late nineteen seventies, nineteen seventy two

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<v Speaker 2>through I believe it was eighty one between some Jazzy

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<v Speaker 2>who was a cosmonaut from the Pliades with Billy Meyer,

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<v Speaker 2>who was a Swiss farmer who was chosen to receive

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<v Speaker 2>information on this constellation and actually where Earth was at

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<v Speaker 2>the time in terms of evolution. My guest today is

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<v Speaker 2>Britt Elder who has written this book called UFO Contact

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<v Speaker 2>from the Pleades, Volume one, Volumes one, and two, and

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<v Speaker 2>I actually remember this research quite distinctly because as a

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<v Speaker 2>program director in San Francisco, we had a number of

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<v Speaker 2>individuals who were researching this amazing case. And what makes

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<v Speaker 2>it one of the most outstanding contact stories is that

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<v Speaker 2>not only was Billy Myers selected to receive information, but

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<v Speaker 2>over a period of I think it's about five or

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<v Speaker 2>six years, these beamships would show up to display their technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy and one or two other people from his family

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<v Speaker 2>were allowed to fly inside these craft, and we get

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of just how these craft are created. We

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<v Speaker 2>later learned that the Pladeans are about three thousand years

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<v Speaker 2>advance of us technologically. What's even more interesting is the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they actually talk about their evolution where we're

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<v Speaker 2>at right now, and how they also went through a

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<v Speaker 2>period of nuclear crisis. The threat of war and elimination

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<v Speaker 2>was very high on the scale, and an earlier phase

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<v Speaker 2>of their development their evolution actually included a war where

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear weapons were used. And then the story goes that

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<v Speaker 2>the civilization, the Pladean civilization had to basically reboot a

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<v Speaker 2>scenario at the time that they were working with and

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<v Speaker 2>hoping that we wouldn't go through it. So we're still

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<v Speaker 2>at a phase where there is a threat of nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>launch and nuclear weapons being used and the possible devastation.

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<v Speaker 2>We're crossing our fingers that doesn't happen. So, but of

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<v Speaker 2>all the cases that we've had on this program, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that Billy Meyer case is really one to think about,

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<v Speaker 2>one to praise because the governments were not allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of it. In fact, NASA and the

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<v Speaker 2>United States governments as well as European governments were notified,

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't react until well after the contact began.

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<v Speaker 2>And communications between the cosmonaut sim Jazzy and Billy Myers

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<v Speaker 2>was documented in a number of interviews and books and articles.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we've talked about the different contacts we've

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<v Speaker 2>had Whitley Strieber on the program, who really paints a

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<v Speaker 2>fairly disturbing aspect of contact with aliens. But we can

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<v Speaker 2>say from the start the contact between these Pladeon cosmonauts

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<v Speaker 2>and Billy Myers is pretty positive. It's very forward thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>it's information exchange and apparently, and we'll learn more about

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<v Speaker 2>this today, there is a great deal of early preparation

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<v Speaker 2>between pladeons who met with Billy prior to coming with

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<v Speaker 2>their beamships to Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Really enjoyed. This has really got me started. This is

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<v Speaker 2>like we're talking nineteen seventy two's when he started having contacts.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was everywhere. It was shocking, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think they knew that if they went through the Apartment

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<v Speaker 2>of Defense or the Pentagon or the governmental agencies, they

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<v Speaker 2>would be shut out. It would be suppressed as it

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<v Speaker 2>most of the sightings and the contacts are today and

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't know what was going on. And this this

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<v Speaker 2>these cosmonauts knew ahead of time that are where we

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<v Speaker 2>were evolution wise wouldn't allow their contact information to be released.

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<v Speaker 2>So today's program is we are not Alone. And my

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<v Speaker 2>guest is author and research investigator Britt Elder. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>today is Britt Elder. She is an investigative author and

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<v Speaker 2>documentary filmmaker who has explored different UFO scenarios around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And she actually visited Billy Meyer at his farm in

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<v Speaker 2>the late nineteen seventies and interviewed him extensively, bringing back

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<v Speaker 2>photographs and information on this contact with this alien group.

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<v Speaker 2>From the Pleiads, So you're not part of moufon. You

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<v Speaker 2>were independent researchers. How did you get in touch with

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<v Speaker 2>Colonel Wendell Stevens who is a ufologist and I had

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<v Speaker 2>known him for a number of years through the UFO

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<v Speaker 2>interest that I had. He's somebody that you hired or

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<v Speaker 2>did he meet with you and your husband?

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<v Speaker 4>He was the prison friend. We had known each other

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<v Speaker 4>for years. He had been he had actually gone to

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<v Speaker 4>Ecuador with Lee when Lee was doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>exploration down there, and we had known him for years

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<v Speaker 4>and years. He brought the case to us, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when we looked at the photographs, we just said, oh no,

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<v Speaker 4>these can't be real. They're too perfect. So that sort

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<v Speaker 4>of set that up. And then Wendell went on over

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<v Speaker 4>to Switzerland and he met with Meyer. He came back

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<v Speaker 4>and he says, I absolutely need a strong investigative body

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<v Speaker 4>behind this. If we do anything with it, we've got

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<v Speaker 4>to do it as a team. So we brought our

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<v Speaker 4>associate Tom Welchin, and we decided, okay, we'll tackle it.

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<v Speaker 4>We went from there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's wonderful that you went to Switzerland to

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<v Speaker 2>meet with Billy Oh and I didn't realize that until

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<v Speaker 2>I read that in the book.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you there? For over a seven year period

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<v Speaker 4>of the investigation, we spent over a year living at

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<v Speaker 4>the farm, Lee and I did okay. We had a

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<v Speaker 4>little camp trailer right next to the house, and we

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<v Speaker 4>stayed there at the farm during any trip that we

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<v Speaker 4>need over there.

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<v Speaker 2>What does Billy say about Because I know, I know

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<v Speaker 2>the story and it's all coming back to me now

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<v Speaker 2>through various lifetimes and it just gets very convoluted earlier

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<v Speaker 2>meetings and Indian sover and so on. But what does

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<v Speaker 2>Billy say about why he was chosen as the contact?

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<v Speaker 3>Because this is a huge.

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<v Speaker 4>Deal and it goes to reincarnation. Yeah, because they recognized

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<v Speaker 4>his life pattern as being from the plates, they felt

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<v Speaker 4>com triple with it. But they monitored him for ten

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<v Speaker 4>years before they initiated this contact on January twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen seventy five. They wanted to see if he would

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<v Speaker 4>be capable of actually accepting the pressures that would come

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<v Speaker 4>along with being an open contactee. That's the reason for

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<v Speaker 4>the monitoring for ten years. That's when they initiated the

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<v Speaker 4>contact with him and set up this communication and turned

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<v Speaker 4>over the evidence, but they really felt they had to

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<v Speaker 4>do it, and just to kind of go through a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of other contact ee history besides Billy, it

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<v Speaker 4>seems quite often contacts start with children between the age

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<v Speaker 4>of five and six. I've run into more and more

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<v Speaker 4>contact used to said, oh, I saw something when I

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<v Speaker 4>was five and I looked up and then i started

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<v Speaker 4>getting these telepathic thoughts, and I've run into that all

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<v Speaker 4>the time. That was no different for Billy. He was

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<v Speaker 4>with his father, they were out walking, he looked up,

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<v Speaker 4>he saw this craft. He says, what is that? And

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<v Speaker 4>it was during World War Two? And his dad said,

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<v Speaker 4>that's one of Hitler's airships. Well, Billy didn't feel right

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<v Speaker 4>about that, but at the same time he wasn't quite sure,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he began having telepathic contact with an individual. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it seems to be something that it happens quite often

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<v Speaker 4>when you're really discussing contactees that had an experience as

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<v Speaker 4>a child, and then throughout their life they've had these

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<v Speaker 4>intermittent contacts and then finally a great big contact.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it your belief?

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe Billy has out been outspoken about this, but

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<v Speaker 2>is he the only one from Earth that these Thedean

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<v Speaker 2>cosmonauts have contacted with the same frequency as him, or

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<v Speaker 2>is this going on all over the place, all over

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<v Speaker 2>the planet Earth.

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<v Speaker 4>Billy has said that others have been contacted, that they

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<v Speaker 4>made the plade Ins made attempts to contact others, but

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<v Speaker 4>as far as he knew, he was the only contact

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<v Speaker 4>given the evidence and has this ongoing communication m wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important for our listeners that you give

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<v Speaker 2>us a little highlight about the historical.

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<v Speaker 3>Contact.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to get too heavy into it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's important that we understand that during the Dynastic

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<v Speaker 2>Egyptian period, the Maya, the Chinese, there have been exchanges

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<v Speaker 2>of information, if you want to call it that. There

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<v Speaker 2>may have there may be a little technology involved, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't really say that. But we think it's perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>maybe pushing in the right direction. Kaka bit about the

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<v Speaker 2>historical notion of Pladeans interacting and being, as you call it,

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<v Speaker 2>the big brothers, the big sisters of our race.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's very interesting because well, we started looking into

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<v Speaker 4>the history of the Plates. It's a very young star system,

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<v Speaker 4>so we're wondering, well, okay, it's so young, how would

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<v Speaker 4>they be visiting us for so long as they had

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<v Speaker 4>claimed with Meyer. But we found in every indigenous culture

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<v Speaker 4>that we researched all through Africa, through Europe, North America,

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<v Speaker 4>South America, Asia, they all revered the Pleades. They were

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<v Speaker 4>looked at as the harbingers of destiny. They were always

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<v Speaker 4>there to help fill in a space of knowledge that

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<v Speaker 4>was needed at the time. In any cases, it was

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<v Speaker 4>to improve agriculture or to create an observatory where they

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<v Speaker 4>could observe specific things. They were looked at and always

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<v Speaker 4>referenced as female, the Seven Sisters, things like that. But

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<v Speaker 4>it goes through all cultures, and we've really started looking

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<v Speaker 4>heavily into North American cultures because all of the indigenous

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<v Speaker 4>people here, all of the nations, all have a big

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<v Speaker 4>connection to the Pleiades. Many say that when you die,

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<v Speaker 4>your spirit goes to the Pleiades. So yeah, it's quite fascinating,

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<v Speaker 4>but it is all over the work and they all

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<v Speaker 4>look at them as bringing good information to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the aspect of the book where you actually

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<v Speaker 2>talk about certain temples. You reference Dendera, the city where

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<v Speaker 2>there's the Hathor Temple, which I've actually been to, and

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<v Speaker 2>you say that in some portion of the walls, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a hieroglyphic that states specifics regarding the plates talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Of yeah, it specifically shows ladies and that that is

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<v Speaker 4>where the source of contact came from, and that was

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<v Speaker 4>That's only one of many many examples. I'm in northern

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona and up here at Hope there is a beautiful

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<v Speaker 4>petrocrif glyff wall that they believe references the Plates coming

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<v Speaker 4>down to speak with them. You find this all over

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<v Speaker 4>the place. It's not just in the Greek temples or

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<v Speaker 4>in Egypt, George, just in one specific location. It's literally

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<v Speaker 4>all over the place. Wong Ti of China, he was

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<v Speaker 4>one that said the Plates came in and told him

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<v Speaker 4>you have to do this, this and this to make

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<v Speaker 4>a good, strong culture. And that's all in there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's literally something that's throughout and around the globe.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they appear to be. And I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about some Jazzy the cosmonaut who's very outspoken with

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<v Speaker 2>billion It featured all through your book. It seems like

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<v Speaker 2>not only are they guiding us as a force as

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<v Speaker 2>a civilization, that's according to the writing, about three thousand

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<v Speaker 2>years older than us, which is substantial, but they have more.

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<v Speaker 2>They're more involved than simply teaching. You suggest that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>I guess hybrids. Yes. They claim that they seeded this

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<v Speaker 4>in the Constellation of Libra, and their planet there was

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<v Speaker 4>to listen, to hear, to move forward with the idea

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<v Speaker 2>The different races on the planet Earth, the African centric,

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<v Speaker 2>would you say that these other races were from the

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<v Speaker 4>Yes. In fact, the African group that you spoke of

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<v Speaker 4>is usually associated with Lyra, and they're a black race.

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<v Speaker 4>The Chinese and the Japanese both in their history say

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<v Speaker 4>of our sun. Neither of them name it, but it

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<v Speaker 4>is written in their history. The Platians are very much

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<v Speaker 4>like us from the standpoint of looking human. They are tall,

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<v Speaker 4>they are usually fair scanned, blonde haired, blue eye, more

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<v Speaker 4>of your Scandinavian looking individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they.

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<v Speaker 4>Do have a difference. They have an ear lobe that

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<v Speaker 4>comes right into their jaw. It just comes straight down

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<v Speaker 4>this way, and that was one of the first things

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<v Speaker 4>that Billy noticed. How different that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about some jazzy. She is the cosmonaut who

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<v Speaker 2>works with Billy and has a connection. I guess they

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<v Speaker 2>speak together telepathically. She comes in at the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, doesn't she introduce herself she's the captain of

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<v Speaker 2>this group or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Speak talk a little bit about her.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when she first amountability and he does a great

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<v Speaker 4>job of explaining this in the documentary. But she came

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<v Speaker 4>in and she said, I am a captain of a

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<v Speaker 4>group in this sector of space, and I have been

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<v Speaker 4>designated to contact you as soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that mean designated?

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<v Speaker 4>She was actually given that a kind of appointment. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>you go meet with him because there was that past

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<v Speaker 4>life connection that they recognize. So that's how that began.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the conversations were primarily with Semyasa, but there

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<v Speaker 4>were others involved too. There was Petah and there was Ketzel,

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<v Speaker 4>and they were both male. Simyasa told Billy that the

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<v Speaker 4>reason that they selected a female to meet with him

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<v Speaker 4>first is that men of Earth were less hostile to women,

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<v Speaker 4>and therefore it would be an easier conversation the first

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>She has a well of knowledge. And I mentioned this

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<v Speaker 2>again for those of you listening. In this book that

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<v Speaker 2>is coming out UFO Contact from the Leads, it is

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<v Speaker 2>pack full of photographs. It's probably the best example of craft.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're gonna talk about the different craft in a

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<v Speaker 2>minute here. But there is a pet. Who's the picture

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<v Speaker 2>of the woman? It's not her some jazzie, it's somebody else.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Ascot and she is supposed to be from the

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<v Speaker 4>Dolla universe. Yeah, that's one of those photographs. We'd talked

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<v Speaker 4>briefly about why people attacked this case. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's important to address because it's something you cannot say

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<v Speaker 4>for sure. Is a person called Ascot from another universe?

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<v Speaker 4>That's Billy's true. He knows that, but there's no way

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<v Speaker 4>to verified that that's who she is or what she is.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people came out and said, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 4>she's an actress. Okay, but still he has that. And

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<v Speaker 4>then you question, and we asked, Billy, is this a

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<v Speaker 4>representative picture of the individual you met named? Ask it?

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<v Speaker 4>And he said, no, that's it. So what do you

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<v Speaker 4>do when you have the physical evidence that no one

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<v Speaker 4>can duplicate? And that includes the medal. At that time,

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<v Speaker 4>the photographs in the movie footage. There were no photoshop programs.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody had a camera on their phone of any type.

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<v Speaker 4>The medal has a thulium in it, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>rare Earth element. How to armor with the sixth grade

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<v Speaker 4>education know to get that incorporated into a medal that

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<v Speaker 4>was created with the cold fusion process, which we could

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<v Speaker 4>not do at that time on this planet. So no

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<v Speaker 4>one has duplicated evidence. They couldn't, but it was easy

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<v Speaker 4>to attack the things. It didn't sit right, and even

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<v Speaker 4>in the book I explained, many of these things made

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<v Speaker 4>us question too what is this? But when you have

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<v Speaker 4>that much evidence, we had to rely on the physical

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<v Speaker 4>things we could analyze as investigators and move forward from them.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the sad aspects of this is his own

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<v Speaker 2>wife was like debunking him, and I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't she see these craft too?

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<v Speaker 4>He did? Was not em her on camera saying that

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<v Speaker 4>oh really, yes, I do. Yeah, she saw the craft.

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<v Speaker 4>She never had contact with Samyasa. That wasn't allowed. Billy

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<v Speaker 4>was the only one to have contact, but she and

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<v Speaker 4>many and many other people saw the craft, experience the

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<v Speaker 4>sound at one point, she was on one end of

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<v Speaker 4>a field, Billy was on the other. They both had

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<v Speaker 4>cassette recorders and they were recording the audio of a UFO.

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<v Speaker 4>They were watching Wow. And then for her to come

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<v Speaker 4>out after the divorce, which was a pretty contentious divorce

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<v Speaker 4>and say what she said that this is a hub cap.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, yeah, so she

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<v Speaker 2>was just being sour.

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<v Speaker 3>She's just being sour. She was.

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<v Speaker 4>She was angry, and truthfully, I understand that anger to

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<v Speaker 4>a great degree because her life was turned upside down.

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<v Speaker 4>People would show up at the farmhouse all hours of

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<v Speaker 4>the night, demanding attention, demanding to speak to Billy. They

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<v Speaker 4>just walk in the door and sit down at the

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<v Speaker 4>kitchen table and wait for him. Yeah, it was pretty rough.

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<v Speaker 4>Her daughter survived an attempt to kidnap her, Billy have

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<v Speaker 4>several assassination attempts were present when one took place. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>this it was rough.

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<v Speaker 2>Did the plea these express a desire for Billy to

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<v Speaker 2>make this known nationally internationally.

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<v Speaker 3>Or what were there?

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<v Speaker 2>What were their goals in contacting him?

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<v Speaker 4>That was the bottom line. Take this to the world,

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<v Speaker 4>Let them know that they are not alone and part

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<v Speaker 4>of that was because our space program was really developing

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<v Speaker 4>at that point, you know, for sending Voyager off to

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<v Speaker 4>ju Bitter and everything else. We were talking about manned

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<v Speaker 4>missions eventually to Mars. We're talking about now and we

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<v Speaker 4>have to realize that we're going to run into other

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<v Speaker 4>beings out there that may not think exactly as we do,

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<v Speaker 4>and we have to be able to handle that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and that really is one of the reasons we wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to bring this book back out now. It's just we've

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<v Speaker 4>got kids now that are into I'm going to live

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<v Speaker 4>on Mars then know that you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 4>alone out there, that there are going to be other civilizations.

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<v Speaker 2>But Brett, why is it that we aren't having And

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<v Speaker 2>you may know more about this than I do, but

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<v Speaker 2>why aren't we having more forward action types of communications

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<v Speaker 2>with off world types where welcome to the planetary system

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, we're close by and so forth and

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<v Speaker 2>so on. Is it a complete blanket cover up by

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<v Speaker 2>the military that we're not allowed to have this or

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<v Speaker 2>do the powers of be just say, look, you're just

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<v Speaker 2>too unevolved to take this.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we have to grow into it. I think

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<v Speaker 4>we have to develop as humans to learn to respect

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<v Speaker 4>whatever else is out there. I think there is the

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<v Speaker 4>degree of cover up. There are so many incredible experiencers

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<v Speaker 4>out there, They had just remarkable encounters with all different

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<v Speaker 4>types of beings, and yet you don't hear the positive

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<v Speaker 4>side of it. We are, unfortunately a world much more

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<v Speaker 4>steeped in fear. We prefer to be in that panic

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<v Speaker 4>mode or oh my gosh, if I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>it is, I have to be afraid of it, and

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<v Speaker 4>the lack of curiosity I think has helped spark that.

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<v Speaker 4>But now there is a new curiosity happening thanks to

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<v Speaker 4>the government part. Although I don't fall in line and

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<v Speaker 4>say they've got to tell me it's real or not

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<v Speaker 4>that comes from here, as far as I'm concerned. Every

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<v Speaker 4>individual makes that their own decision. But I think the

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<v Speaker 4>government coming out and showing the TikTok video and talking

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<v Speaker 4>to the Navy captains, that's made a big difference for

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people who are now curious, where before

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<v Speaker 4>they wouldn't even think twice about having an open conversation

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<v Speaker 4>about UFOs.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think our government is and I'm speaking more

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<v Speaker 2>in line with the DoD and NASA, our concerned you

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<v Speaker 2>bring up in the book a very famous document, the

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<v Speaker 2>Brookings Institute document, which was made created in nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 2>many years ago, in which they looked at and surveyed

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<v Speaker 2>people and basically the bottom line was that people would

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<v Speaker 2>commit suicide, the society would go to hell in the handbasket,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course religion would falter. Since that time, they

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was NASA had a theologial theologian look

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<v Speaker 2>at it, religion, just look at it, and the same

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<v Speaker 2>response kind of came out, No, we don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a good idea, so for and so on. Why are

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<v Speaker 2>they asking the religions? Why don't they ask social media

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<v Speaker 2>people exactly which would be Which makes me think that

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<v Speaker 2>and this is just my feeling, it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>backward look at this phenomenon of alien interaction, off world

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<v Speaker 2>interaction to welcome us into a collective.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you say about that?

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<v Speaker 4>I absolutely agree with you. It's unfortunate that they not

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<v Speaker 4>only take it to religion, but they take it to fear.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you pose a question based in fear, you

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<v Speaker 4>will get a fearful answer. They haven't learned the art

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<v Speaker 4>of neutrality yet. But if you took it to Facebook,

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<v Speaker 4>on a neutral lap or any other social media aspect

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<v Speaker 4>and said do you believe would you how would you react?

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<v Speaker 4>I think the responses would be remarkable. The powers be

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<v Speaker 4>don't give the people credit for their curiosity and their

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<v Speaker 4>knowledge and the ability to research. We don't have to

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<v Speaker 4>buy into what we're being told by whomever the power

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<v Speaker 4>is at the moment. We need to find it within ourselves,

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<v Speaker 4>in our own research and our own ability to learn.

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<v Speaker 4>That's part of growth, and if you just follow, you

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<v Speaker 4>never grow. So I always say good on the government.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they did a wonderful thing by opening the door,

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<v Speaker 4>but now it's up to us as individuals to learn more.

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<v Speaker 2>Now when you say open the door, I think you're

425
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<v Speaker 2>referring to the rebranding of UFOs quaps, which is like, well,

426
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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's kind of good.

427
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<v Speaker 4>The same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing. We don't get much more details

429
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<v Speaker 2>about the beings and the craft or whatever. And I've

430
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<v Speaker 2>had a number of I had a astronomer from NASA

431
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 2>actually began chronicling these things.

432
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<v Speaker 3>And he was blacklisted.

433
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<v Speaker 2>I want you to talk a little bit, and I

434
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<v Speaker 2>hope you know who this individualist I'm about to speak

435
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:16.599
<v Speaker 2>on which is doctor Avy Lowe Harvard University. He has

436
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<v Speaker 2>been looking at what he believes is off world probes

437
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:25.359
<v Speaker 2>that have been observing us, and about a year ago

438
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 2>he scraped the bottom of the Pacific Ocean to pick

439
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>up what he believes were pieces of the exotic metals

440
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>of one of these probes.

441
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<v Speaker 3>What do you think?

442
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<v Speaker 2>And I think he's on our side in other words,

443
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<v Speaker 2>in terms of information release, We're going to take a

444
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<v Speaker 2>short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves,

445
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<v Speaker 2>and we'll return shortly with my guest today, Britt Elder

446
00:31:55.240 --> 00:32:01.079
<v Speaker 2>discussing her new book, UFO Contact from the Pleiady, the

447
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>forty fifth anniversary edition. We'll be right back. My guest

448
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 2>today is Britt Elder. She is a ufologist. She has

449
00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:03.200
<v Speaker 2>studied the UFO phenomenon for decades and has now compiled

450
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<v Speaker 2>a book called UFO Contact from the PLDs Volumes one

451
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.839
<v Speaker 2>and two. And this is a look at the one

452
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<v Speaker 2>of the most spectacular contact cases from a alien group

453
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<v Speaker 2>coming from the constellation PLDES and their contact with a

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<v Speaker 2>Swiss farmer named Billy Meyer. What do you think is

455
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<v Speaker 2>the likely outcome of a disclosure? In other words, not

456
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<v Speaker 2>just first and you might be going, Cliff, I don't know,

457
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<v Speaker 2>but I'm curious because you're kind of steeped in this.

458
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<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't know what it would be, but

459
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:51.519
<v Speaker 4>I think I have a pretty good idea. I think

460
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<v Speaker 4>it would be manipulated. Unfortunately, with AI, now the question

461
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.000
<v Speaker 4>asked to come up immediately, is it real there is

462
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<v Speaker 4>a AI? Yeah, exactly like the old memory X tech,

463
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 4>you know, tapes like yeah, that's going back, but it's

464
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<v Speaker 4>I think it could be manipulated, and I think that

465
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<v Speaker 4>could be very unfortunate. That's why I always tell anybody

466
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<v Speaker 4>i'm speaking with, it's up to you to do the research.

467
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 4>You've got to find out what resonates with you and

468
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 4>why it resonates with you. It's not about the government saying,

469
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<v Speaker 4>oh here, it is great if they do, but what

470
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 4>are they also telling you with it? What can you

471
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:39.119
<v Speaker 4>learn from it? So it comes back to the individual.

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<v Speaker 4>And I love the fact that today there are so

473
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<v Speaker 4>many study groups popping up all over the place. It

474
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 4>wants to know and we need and I've been saying

475
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<v Speaker 4>this for some time, we need a repository. The UFO cases,

476
00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:01.239
<v Speaker 4>good bad, in different abduction contact ee documented and not

477
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<v Speaker 4>are available for people to peruse and look through.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, isn't that kind of move Does that move on

479
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<v Speaker 2>in a way?

480
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<v Speaker 4>Originally?

481
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

482
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.360
<v Speaker 4>Where do people go to find those stories? And I

483
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 4>know mister Green would have done a lot of work

484
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.440
<v Speaker 4>with all of the old classified documents by releasing what

485
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:24.400
<v Speaker 4>he could, He's done great work. But we need one space,

486
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.800
<v Speaker 4>one giant internet site where everything can go on and

487
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:33.440
<v Speaker 4>the documentaries that have been made and never seen, like

488
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 4>a documentary we made eighty two, went to our mailing

489
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:41.159
<v Speaker 4>list and that was it. So released it with this

490
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:45.239
<v Speaker 4>book and it's out now, same title UFO Contact from

491
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 4>the Plates and it's available on Amazon or you can

492
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:52.199
<v Speaker 4>stream it from the publisher Beyond Words. But we thought,

493
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.000
<v Speaker 4>all right, we need to start putting all of this

494
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:59.639
<v Speaker 4>information out there, whether it's something we worked on or not,

495
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:05.079
<v Speaker 4>because there's so much there. Yeah, it's just it's invaluable

496
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.840
<v Speaker 4>right now that we learn and we understand.

497
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<v Speaker 2>Is there some footage of these craft hovering in your documentary?

498
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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

499
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Yes, oh you got so I have to go find

500
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:17.400
<v Speaker 3>that so those of.

501
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:21.960
<v Speaker 4>You listening, I'll get your copy. But yes, that's wonderful.

502
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<v Speaker 5>Because you have the footage of three craft in the

503
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:29.320
<v Speaker 5>air at the same time, you have footage of a

504
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 5>craft that blinks out in a matter of Now that

505
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 5>remember eight milimeter footage, And then do you have all

506
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 5>these frames per second?

507
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 4>Right? No, it blinks out and one frame comes back

508
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 4>in another, and the footage has not been tampered with

509
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 4>or cut. And this is you know, the old fashioned

510
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 4>your mom and dad had it in their movie camera

511
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:54.039
<v Speaker 4>kind of footage.

512
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

513
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so that's in there. Another one where there is

514
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 4>this huff ufo and it's just as they told Meyer.

515
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:07.840
<v Speaker 4>It's writing the human resonance waves of the Earth, and

516
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.360
<v Speaker 4>there's a par that drives underneath it on a road.

517
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Speaker 4>So you get to see all of that and experience that.

518
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:16.199
<v Speaker 4>It couldn't go into the book. We got as much

519
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.559
<v Speaker 4>information into the books as we could, but that's different.

520
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate all the different photographs in the book.

521
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<v Speaker 2>I want you to talk a little bit about the

522
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 2>different types of crafts that are featured, because I think

523
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>some Jossi says they went home and then because of

524
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 2>the time warp or something, they came back with different

525
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:41.280
<v Speaker 2>types of ships that were more advanced, that had different.

526
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Do different things.

527
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, talk about what the early contact with Billy and

528
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:50.199
<v Speaker 2>then the later contact and they're kind of showing off

529
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.559
<v Speaker 2>their technology to him, you know, which is kind of cool.

530
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the very first contact with Billy, they had to

531
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 4>take that show and decommission it. And they called the

532
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 4>ship's beamships because of the beamships, right, But they had

533
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:10.679
<v Speaker 4>to decommission it because it leaked radiation and they weren't

534
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:13.400
<v Speaker 4>aware of that. We found it when we made the

535
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 4>documentary because we brought it in. A Wheeled Hair Group

536
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 4>is a company that works with nuclear radiation in Switzerland,

537
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.679
<v Speaker 4>very well known, very well respected. They came in and

538
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 4>they found gamma radiation levels pegging the meter where Billy

539
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 4>had the first contact seven years prior interrupt you.

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<v Speaker 2>So, was it the place where it landed had the

541
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<v Speaker 2>high radiation or was it something else?

542
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.920
<v Speaker 4>No, it was exactly where it landed. He walked the

543
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 4>circle the perimeter of it and it was right there

544
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:52.079
<v Speaker 4>in that area. It was fine. Also, yamma radiation high

545
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:56.239
<v Speaker 4>levels in the needle on his mophead and his belt buckle.

546
00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:01.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, so he was exposed to this, which is

547
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 4>why they took that draft and decommissioned. They brought in

548
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 4>another variation too, which is the craft. You see that

549
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.960
<v Speaker 4>looks so sleek and it looks like a little UFO

550
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 4>race car. It's beautiful. And then they kept bringing in

551
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.679
<v Speaker 4>different craft that could do different things because they could

552
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:25.440
<v Speaker 4>then create an interdimensional craft. They had drone craft that

553
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:31.559
<v Speaker 4>basically monitored, that didn't carry an occupant, but could monitor

554
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:36.960
<v Speaker 4>things happening on Earth as far as atmospheric issues, ocean issues,

555
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.800
<v Speaker 4>earth issues, things like that. So yeah, they all had

556
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:44.960
<v Speaker 4>different purposes. But the one that I think is so

557
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 4>fascinating is the one with the big cupola on top

558
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 4>that so often you'll see at a place called Hassembul

559
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:59.199
<v Speaker 4>and it's snowy underneath. And that is a remarkable craft

560
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:02.239
<v Speaker 4>because you see all the different colors, You see the

561
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:04.880
<v Speaker 4>gold in it, you see silver reflecting in it, you

562
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:09.159
<v Speaker 4>see the mountain reflecting underneath it. It's quite amazing. And

563
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:11.079
<v Speaker 4>that is an interdimensional craft.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about the time factor this. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the distance between the Pleiads where they came from

566
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<v Speaker 2>and Earth. Isn't it like twenty light years.

567
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 4>Or something four hundred light years?

568
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Four hundred which is under our current technology, would take

569
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<v Speaker 2>what a thousand years to get to?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but they have a different form of propulsion. They

571
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<v Speaker 4>say they use tachion systems, which we found an individual

572
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:47.599
<v Speaker 4>in Scotland, doctor John McVeagh, who was working on tachim

573
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 4>propulsion systems at the time. Wow, it's really fascinating. So

574
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<v Speaker 4>then we brought in h David Froning and he was

575
00:40:55.320 --> 00:41:00.239
<v Speaker 4>from McDonald Douglas and Alan Holt from NASA, and we

576
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.039
<v Speaker 4>talk to them, how is it possible. The Pladians say

577
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.400
<v Speaker 4>they get from their planet Era to Earth in seven hours,

578
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:11.119
<v Speaker 4>and they explain to so beautifully, because you have a

579
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 4>certain period of time where you have to need the atmosphere,

580
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.400
<v Speaker 4>and a certain period of time you have to re

581
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:22.159
<v Speaker 4>enter an atmosphere, and everything in between is null and void.

582
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:25.119
<v Speaker 4>There is no time and there is no space.

583
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:26.280
<v Speaker 3>There's no time.

584
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:31.079
<v Speaker 4>No time. Time is our creation. Wow, No time does

585
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:35.719
<v Speaker 4>not exist. And even the Pladians say, we can't judge

586
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:40.119
<v Speaker 4>time like you do because we have to look at events.

587
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 4>We have an event clock. Rather than saying, oh, this

588
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 4>will happen in twenty twenty eight, no, we have to

589
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:52.599
<v Speaker 4>say if event A happens, and then event B happens,

590
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:56.840
<v Speaker 4>event C will definitely happen. But if event A happens

591
00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 4>and B does happen, C won't happen. So that's how

592
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:05.320
<v Speaker 4>they look at time spacing. But they say when you

593
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:12.800
<v Speaker 4>travel in space that distance doesn't exist. Space literally is

594
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.159
<v Speaker 4>null and void. Yeah.

595
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Can they come to Earth and go back in time?

596
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:26.039
<v Speaker 4>Apparently the Pladeans through that interdimensional craft can, but other

597
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 4>civilizations can and do. Yeah all the time.

598
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.760
<v Speaker 2>In the book, you hint that there are other civilizations

599
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.960
<v Speaker 2>that are here now observing. Is there any sense of

600
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:44.519
<v Speaker 2>how many? And are they kind of like anthropologists that

601
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 2>are observing us and wanting to see where we're going

602
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:49.159
<v Speaker 2>as a species.

603
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 4>Mostly yeah, they want to see what we're going to

604
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 4>do with ourselves because we're developing so rapidly. But they

605
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 4>all believe we are not baling and seeing our technology

606
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:07.559
<v Speaker 4>with what they termed spirituality, which is understanding that we're

607
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:11.760
<v Speaker 4>all related. It's we're all a part of creational energy

608
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.440
<v Speaker 4>and that we need to get along. That's the biggest

609
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:20.679
<v Speaker 4>concern these groups that are coming in have with us.

610
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.639
<v Speaker 4>We don't know how to go along. We're like brats

611
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:25.840
<v Speaker 4>in a playground. We're just not doing what we need

612
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Speaker 4>to be doing.

613
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.599
<v Speaker 2>I hope we're not brats, but you're brat well, some

614
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:30.039
<v Speaker 2>of us.

615
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:37.239
<v Speaker 4>Are, well, there's According to Billy, in nineteen seventy five,

616
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:41.760
<v Speaker 4>there were one hundred and five civilizations watching out over us,

617
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:46.360
<v Speaker 4>just examining what we were doing. Some were having contact,

618
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 4>some were abducting people, but they were there watching what

619
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:54.079
<v Speaker 4>was happening here. That's a lot.

620
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 3>That is a lot of people.

621
00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:03.880
<v Speaker 2>What does your sense personally on what is happening now

622
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:09.119
<v Speaker 2>with the pleads the contact with Billy? Is is there

623
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 2>any more physical context?

624
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:16.000
<v Speaker 4>They do have face to face conversations, but they are

625
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.639
<v Speaker 4>not supplying any more evidence. There was a pointed time

626
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:22.079
<v Speaker 4>where Billy kept saying, I want more photographs and I

627
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 4>want more movie footage. I want more of this and

628
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.440
<v Speaker 4>more of that, And they said, how much more do

629
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:31.960
<v Speaker 4>you need? Really, you know, you don't need anything else.

630
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.960
<v Speaker 4>From here on, the conversations will be between us and

631
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 4>that's all. And that's where they left it. They stopped

632
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:43.840
<v Speaker 4>providing physical documentation. They said he had more than enough

633
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 4>and it was up to, as they say, the earth

634
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 4>human to realize that it's valid.

635
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<v Speaker 2>So, you know, it'd be wonderful, it'd be wonderful if

636
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Billy got a ghostwriter to write a book about what

637
00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 2>is what is being spoken about.

638
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.679
<v Speaker 3>You know what the.

639
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Goals are, and we see happening because I know it's

640
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 2>all about if their spiritual beings, highly evolved beings, it's

641
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:16.320
<v Speaker 2>more about we let them do what they need to do. Yeah,

642
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:20.239
<v Speaker 2>but at some point, don't you think it's important that

643
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.920
<v Speaker 2>we get the big brother the big sister to say,

644
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.840
<v Speaker 2>let's help, We need to help you so you don't

645
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:27.760
<v Speaker 2>destroy yourself.

646
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:32.360
<v Speaker 4>They say that they cannot interfere with us yet, that's

647
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:37.000
<v Speaker 4>a direct quote that they cannot interfere with us yet.

648
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.559
<v Speaker 4>And yet is the key word, because if we get

649
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:44.000
<v Speaker 4>to a point where we're ready to destroy the planet

650
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:49.280
<v Speaker 4>and ourselves at that point, Billy, we've had conversations with

651
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.519
<v Speaker 4>him about those he does believe they would step in,

652
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:57.159
<v Speaker 4>and that would mean in the case of maybe nuclear war,

653
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:01.280
<v Speaker 4>maybe stopping it. In the case of some other means

654
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:05.480
<v Speaker 4>of destruction of the planet and the population somehow, just

655
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:06.639
<v Speaker 4>stopping that as well.

656
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.000
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, one of my things about one of

657
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 2>my disappointments is that I believe that as soon as

658
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 2>we have this disclosure, this very important disclosure, that we're

659
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 2>not the only ones we evolve as as a culture.

660
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I agree, and it's not a simple evolution. It's a

661
00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:31.000
<v Speaker 2>monstrous change. And I can see why religion and the

662
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:32.800
<v Speaker 2>government are kind of like, we're not going to let

663
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:34.760
<v Speaker 2>you know about this, We're going to let you guess

664
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:39.760
<v Speaker 2>at it, because we don't want this information to be released.

665
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.519
<v Speaker 2>But at some point it's like it has to be

666
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:45.440
<v Speaker 2>released because it's kind of.

667
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:48.320
<v Speaker 3>It's part of our.

668
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Path forward, right, it really is, and it will change

669
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 4>us drastically. When you get to that point. Is when

670
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.400
<v Speaker 4>you get into UFOs in the first place, you never

671
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.239
<v Speaker 4>get out. That's that's the true big black hole. It

672
00:47:03.360 --> 00:47:06.480
<v Speaker 4>just sucks you in and you're there forever. But it

673
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:10.960
<v Speaker 4>starts a curiosity. And when the population gets to the

674
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:16.280
<v Speaker 4>point of really being curious and demanding answers, then I

675
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 4>think things can start changing. Then we're growing to a

676
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 4>point where we're looking for those answers. But right now

677
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:26.199
<v Speaker 4>there's only a portion of us that are out there looking,

678
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:29.320
<v Speaker 4>and you've got to be willing to look in order

679
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:32.280
<v Speaker 4>to accept. So I think that that's going to be

680
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 4>a big deal, and I think that time is coming

681
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:41.000
<v Speaker 4>when you know, maybe our government won't be the first

682
00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:46.400
<v Speaker 4>to say, yeah, they're here and they're real. They haven't

683
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:48.159
<v Speaker 4>been the first, let's put it that way.

684
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:49.320
<v Speaker 3>No, but.

685
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:54.519
<v Speaker 4>Like China ten years ago, twenty years ago, they had

686
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 4>a magazine published by the Chinese government on uf boes

687
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:03.679
<v Speaker 4>very open talking about it. You know what goes on

688
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:07.239
<v Speaker 4>in Star City and Russia. I mean that work there

689
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:09.800
<v Speaker 4>quite amazing.

690
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I had like a big sighting.

691
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Is that what that was?

692
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:18.480
<v Speaker 4>Star City is where the astronauts trained for Russia, and

693
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 4>it's they do a lot of psychic work. They do

694
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:25.400
<v Speaker 4>a lot of use this work. I talked to Marina

695
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:30.800
<v Speaker 4>Popovich about this at link and they're very open to

696
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:32.960
<v Speaker 4>communicating with extraterress reels.

697
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh are you saying there's some telepathy going on? Yeah, yeah,

698
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>we'll talk a little bit about This is news to me.

699
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.320
<v Speaker 4>Oh, and it's they're open about it.

700
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 3>They're Russia.

701
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:47.840
<v Speaker 4>That's much in the public, but they'll talk about it

702
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 4>to anybody that's curious. So if you broach the conversation,

703
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 4>you'll probably get an earful. They are actually trying to

704
00:48:55.400 --> 00:49:00.800
<v Speaker 4>create conversations with extraterrestrials. They use remote viewing like we

705
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.559
<v Speaker 4>used to to try to determine things. They do what

706
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 4>doctor Stephen Greer does by going out and trying and

707
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.840
<v Speaker 4>call them in. Yeah, you know, all these different things,

708
00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:15.280
<v Speaker 4>but they're doing it on a scientific level. And when

709
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.480
<v Speaker 4>you do have that science behind you, more people will

710
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:24.079
<v Speaker 4>be respectful of the information you present. It's just the

711
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:26.719
<v Speaker 4>way our mind works. We're in a thump on it world,

712
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.800
<v Speaker 4>so we have to have some type of documentation behind it.

713
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:34.599
<v Speaker 2>I think you hinted that perhaps another country would be

714
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.400
<v Speaker 2>the one that would be the would expose us to

715
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:42.559
<v Speaker 2>first contact or this disclosure, and I actually see that

716
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:46.719
<v Speaker 2>as a possibility. And the Russians have always been very

717
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:52.960
<v Speaker 2>open and positive about alien beings. I mean when they

718
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 2>had this whole Mars Moon phobus and they sent out

719
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:59.960
<v Speaker 2>a special satellite the image it, and all of a sudden,

720
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.480
<v Speaker 2>the first one focused I got somebody bumped it, you know.

721
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:06.920
<v Speaker 2>And the second one there was a shadow of what

722
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:11.519
<v Speaker 2>looked like a saucer. That thing lost contact too, So

723
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.559
<v Speaker 2>they seem to be more and they were like revealing

724
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.360
<v Speaker 2>this information where in the United States you'd never hear

725
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:17.920
<v Speaker 2>about that.

726
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:22.440
<v Speaker 4>There's another place too, and that's Mexico. I've spent a

727
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:27.440
<v Speaker 4>lot of time in Mexico stay working with investigators down there,

728
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:33.880
<v Speaker 4>talking to pilots, politicians, all of them. They're very open

729
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 4>to discussing UFOs. Pilots that I spoke to have had

730
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:44.400
<v Speaker 4>close encounters literally in the air. One pilot destrut on

731
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 4>his plane was hit by an object. It broke the

732
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:51.440
<v Speaker 4>strut and he barely got back to the airport and landed.

733
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.599
<v Speaker 4>It was something, and the air traffic controllers report him constantly.

734
00:50:56.199 --> 00:51:00.079
<v Speaker 4>It's remarkable what's going down there. It began in ninety one.

735
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:06.599
<v Speaker 4>We have over ten thousand videos from Mexico of anomalous objects. Yeah,

736
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 4>oh as they called him. But the Mexican government is

737
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:13.719
<v Speaker 4>taking a serious look at this and saying do we

738
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:17.639
<v Speaker 4>need to be the first to come out and say yes,

739
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:23.400
<v Speaker 4>extraterrestrial life exists. They're actually having that discussion in congress

740
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:25.239
<v Speaker 4>in their congress.

741
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Are they really?

742
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:27.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's pretty cool.

743
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, that brings up somebody I wanted to get your

744
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:35.360
<v Speaker 2>comments on, and that's Haimi Massan, who I know who

745
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:40.440
<v Speaker 2>is very very much involved and active in the UFO community.

746
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:44.159
<v Speaker 2>How did we get involved with Billy Meyer? How did

747
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:44.880
<v Speaker 2>that happen?

748
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:50.519
<v Speaker 4>Oh God, it was so funny. He was given when

749
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.119
<v Speaker 4>Volume one originally came out, he was given the book.

750
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:55.719
<v Speaker 4>He tried to find Lee and I. We were kind

751
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:58.800
<v Speaker 4>of hermits still are. It's hard to get to us

752
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:04.519
<v Speaker 4>and couldn't find us. And eventually he tracked us down

753
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 4>through some friends and it was just as the sightings

754
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:11.679
<v Speaker 4>began in nineteen ninety one during the eclipse in Mexico

755
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:14.880
<v Speaker 4>and he called us and he says, I need you

756
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.760
<v Speaker 4>guys down here. And at that time he was the

757
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.840
<v Speaker 4>editor general of sixty Minutes of Mexico. I mean, he

758
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:26.880
<v Speaker 4>has quite the background. So we went down and we

759
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:29.199
<v Speaker 4>spent a week with them, and we interviewed people, and

760
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:30.960
<v Speaker 4>we looked at all the footage and we said, you

761
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:34.480
<v Speaker 4>got something happening here. And then we were down there

762
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:37.360
<v Speaker 4>about every six months from then on because so much

763
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:40.760
<v Speaker 4>was going on. But I've worked with me since then.

764
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:44.920
<v Speaker 4>I adore him. He's one of the most credible, wonderful,

765
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:49.960
<v Speaker 4>sincere people. And he is a bulldog. If he thinks

766
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.800
<v Speaker 4>he's got a bow, he's not turning luci it. He

767
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 4>will dig and dig and dig until he gets to

768
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 4>the true He's really good. So he got to Meyer

769
00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:02.159
<v Speaker 4>through our books and the knowledge that we had worked together.

770
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Has he actually interviewed Billy or he has?

771
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:11.400
<v Speaker 4>He has many times from Mexico TV. Part of it

772
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:13.760
<v Speaker 4>was put on Mexico TV. Some of it has some

773
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:15.480
<v Speaker 4>been released yet. Yeah.

774
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:16.559
<v Speaker 3>Wow, amazing.

775
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:21.079
<v Speaker 2>The books called UFO Contact from the PLEDs Volumes one

776
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:24.519
<v Speaker 2>and two. What makes this a really great book is

777
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:28.079
<v Speaker 2>there's two books combined into one. I keep calling it

778
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:30.800
<v Speaker 2>at a coffee table book because it's a little bigger

779
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 2>than wider than normal. But it's because the photos are

780
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:38.079
<v Speaker 2>so dynamic, and uh that's I think that was the

781
00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:41.559
<v Speaker 2>purpose of it. Let's talk about Shirley McClain for a minute.

782
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:45.559
<v Speaker 2>She writes the forward. I don't know her that well,

783
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:49.960
<v Speaker 2>but we had interactions when she was speaking at various

784
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.199
<v Speaker 2>conferences in LA I think I might have met her

785
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 2>in San Francisco late nineties. What is her What is

786
00:53:57.400 --> 00:53:58.679
<v Speaker 2>her contribution to this?

787
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:05.079
<v Speaker 4>Surely, SHARLEYE and I are best friends. She's an absolute

788
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:09.480
<v Speaker 4>question machine. And he had called and wanted to go

789
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.119
<v Speaker 4>to Switzerland to meet Meyer when she was working on

790
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.519
<v Speaker 4>out on Link writing it, and we said no. We

791
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:18.039
<v Speaker 4>just got back and she called back. She says, really,

792
00:54:18.079 --> 00:54:20.480
<v Speaker 4>I need to talk to him for my book. So

793
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:21.639
<v Speaker 4>we took her over there.

794
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

795
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:26.079
<v Speaker 4>In a week with Meyer, she had a tape recorder

796
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:30.199
<v Speaker 4>in his face the whole time, question after question after question.

797
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:34.079
<v Speaker 4>She's the most curious person on this planet. I adore

798
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:40.480
<v Speaker 4>her mind. She's just so smart and so inquisitive about

799
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:44.119
<v Speaker 4>everything once the details and she and Billy just spent

800
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:49.639
<v Speaker 4>five days having great conversations, every one of them recorded.

801
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:53.360
<v Speaker 4>They got along fine. He was. He's so great because

802
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:56.880
<v Speaker 4>he's very earthy and open, and you ask him something

803
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:58.719
<v Speaker 4>and if he knows the answer, he'll tell you, and

804
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:01.599
<v Speaker 4>if he doesn't, you'll say, I don't know, I don't know.

805
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.599
<v Speaker 4>And it's great. It's wonderful to meet somebody that way.

806
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.920
<v Speaker 4>But you know, he's had these experiences and still doesn't

807
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 4>know everything.

808
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:13.119
<v Speaker 3>So did she include him in one of her books?

809
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:17.639
<v Speaker 4>What she did was she made a composite character, the

810
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.400
<v Speaker 4>David character, and Out on a Limb is the composite

811
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:24.159
<v Speaker 4>of three contactees. The one she goes to Peru whin

812
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:28.440
<v Speaker 4>oh right, that he has the experience with Maya. That

813
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:34.920
<v Speaker 4>was a composite of three different characters. The information, Yeah, amazing.

814
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 2>As we conclude, what would you say, Billy is He's

815
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:50.119
<v Speaker 2>still interacting occasionally, I guess with some jazzi. But what

816
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.840
<v Speaker 2>is his feeling in terms of humanity.

817
00:55:56.639 --> 00:56:01.400
<v Speaker 4>He has hope ask you many times, how do you

818
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:04.760
<v Speaker 4>deal with all of the anger and the hatred is

819
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:08.519
<v Speaker 4>directed to you? And he says, Britt, it's so simple.

820
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:13.320
<v Speaker 4>I just send them love. I can't change their mind.

821
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:18.360
<v Speaker 4>They have and that's how he looks at humanity. You

822
00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:20.360
<v Speaker 4>have to change your own mind. You've got to do

823
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:25.039
<v Speaker 4>your own work. You have to find what's really inside yourself,

824
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:27.440
<v Speaker 4>and that's what propels you forward.

825
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.039
<v Speaker 2>People can get this book just came out. It's the

826
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:38.440
<v Speaker 2>forty fifth anniversary edition. It's on Amazon. I would imagine

827
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:42.280
<v Speaker 2>wherever you get your books is available. How can people

828
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:45.760
<v Speaker 2>learn more about you? You have a Facebook page, It's.

829
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Get a website. You can find out all the things

830
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:51.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm doing or have done there and what's going on

831
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.679
<v Speaker 4>with different things in my life. It's brit br t

832
00:56:55.960 --> 00:56:59.559
<v Speaker 4>elders e l d e er s dot com.

833
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.440
<v Speaker 2>And do you have a YouTube channel, Britt? Or is

834
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:04.840
<v Speaker 2>it all the video on your website?

835
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:08.480
<v Speaker 4>No, the video will be going up on the website.

836
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:11.800
<v Speaker 4>We are putting together a YouTube channel for it.

837
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:13.239
<v Speaker 2>And very good.

838
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:16.039
<v Speaker 4>Right now I will be putting some of it on

839
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:20.719
<v Speaker 4>Facebook as well, just so people know what the documentary contains,

840
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.000
<v Speaker 4>So we're going to put lots of little goodies out there.

841
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:28.239
<v Speaker 2>And as a couple of final questions in the annuals

842
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:34.400
<v Speaker 2>of ufology, where would you say Billy Meyer fits? He's

843
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:38.360
<v Speaker 2>not Betty and Barney Hill. That's a kind of a

844
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:43.119
<v Speaker 2>scary abduction scenario. I'm trying to think of Calvin in Mississippi,

845
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:46.320
<v Speaker 2>which is also scary, and we don't really know if

846
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:50.679
<v Speaker 2>those are aliens, but they look more like cyborgs abducted

847
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:55.719
<v Speaker 2>experimented on him. And there's some other cases. We don't

848
00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:59.039
<v Speaker 2>really hear a lot from outside of the US in

849
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:01.639
<v Speaker 2>terms of abduction and experiences because they don't have the

850
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:03.800
<v Speaker 2>same reaction as people in.

851
00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:04.960
<v Speaker 3>The United States.

852
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:11.719
<v Speaker 2>That's right, we all see horror. And where are we

853
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 2>on this in terms of.

854
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:17.280
<v Speaker 3>The evolution?

855
00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:21.679
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think the Mayer case actually happened too early.

856
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:26.760
<v Speaker 4>I think the contact with Billy was too soon. I

857
00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:30.199
<v Speaker 4>don't think people were really ready for it back in

858
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:34.480
<v Speaker 4>the seventies. I think they are now. And I think

859
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:38.400
<v Speaker 4>bringing this information out, and there's other information coming out

860
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:43.199
<v Speaker 4>from other people that have reportedly at plating contexts things

861
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:47.280
<v Speaker 4>like that, I think it's opening a door to more positive,

862
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:54.760
<v Speaker 4>more nurturing information, and we need that because we need

863
00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:57.599
<v Speaker 4>to nurture ourselves so we can go out into the

864
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:00.400
<v Speaker 4>universe and take a rightful space there.

865
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the same scenario that Billy had

866
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:09.239
<v Speaker 2>in Switzerland could be reproduced in the United States. I

867
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:11.360
<v Speaker 2>think it would be so quickly covered up.

868
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:12.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

869
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's the advantage of being a neutral country, neutral country,

870
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:21.599
<v Speaker 2>country farmer out in the middle of nowhere having these

871
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:24.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of I mean, I don't know, maybe Wyoming or

872
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:28.000
<v Speaker 2>something someone could have contact, but I I don't know.

873
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:30.719
<v Speaker 4>I think that's why a lot of these contacts are

874
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:35.440
<v Speaker 4>actually happening in South America and in Latin America is

875
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:41.440
<v Speaker 4>because of that attitude. It's the indigenous people down there

876
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:44.559
<v Speaker 4>are still looking at the skies waiting for their star

877
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:47.639
<v Speaker 4>brothers to come in. We don't do that here. We're

878
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:50.599
<v Speaker 4>locked in our technology, you know, And there's a big

879
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:55.360
<v Speaker 4>difference there. Contexts are happening all over the planet, but

880
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:59.239
<v Speaker 4>we're not hearing about them here. We need to get

881
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:03.480
<v Speaker 4>more information and into the US because there are wonderful

882
01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:05.960
<v Speaker 4>things out there that are going on every day and

883
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:07.599
<v Speaker 4>no one ever hears about them.

884
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wonderful.

885
01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:14.079
<v Speaker 2>The book again UFO Contact from the Plea Thedes Volumes

886
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:18.079
<v Speaker 2>one and two, and it's the forty fifth anniversary edition.

887
01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:22.440
<v Speaker 2>While time really flies, much success spread, much success on

888
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:26.239
<v Speaker 2>this and that was a pleasure speaking with you, and

889
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:29.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you're still very positive about the phenomenon.

890
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, there's too much there to learn and we can

891
01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:37.960
<v Speaker 4>all get a little information and go along way with it.

892
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Wonderful, all right, thanks for joining me.

893
01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:43.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh, thank you, Cliff. I love this. This was great.

894
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:53.360
<v Speaker 2>We're featuring an incredible opportunity to visit one of the

895
01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:57.679
<v Speaker 2>real enigmas of the ancient world, and that is Easter

896
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Island in the Pacific Ocean. This is a new tour

897
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:03.760
<v Speaker 2>that we're doing. It looks like this will probably be

898
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the only chance we get to go because it's very challenging.

899
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:08.760
<v Speaker 3>To get over there.

900
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:13.239
<v Speaker 2>But we're lucky because doctor Edwin Barnhardt, our host and

901
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:17.760
<v Speaker 2>our tour leader, has been surveying this island for over

902
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:21.639
<v Speaker 2>a number of years and has some really amazing insights

903
01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:27.840
<v Speaker 2>on just how detailed and how complicated and how mysterious

904
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:28.960
<v Speaker 2>this island is.

905
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Going to be.

906
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:33.679
<v Speaker 2>March fifteenth through twenty third, I wanted to ask just

907
01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:36.440
<v Speaker 2>a brief question or two, because I obviously have never

908
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:38.760
<v Speaker 2>been there and I'm really excited to be a part

909
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:41.440
<v Speaker 2>of this. It was a highlight talk about the moai.

910
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:43.519
<v Speaker 3>There's a number of them, aren't there.

911
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:49.920
<v Speaker 6>There are so many moai there it's outrageous. You see

912
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:52.800
<v Speaker 6>from coffee table books that there's lines of them, but

913
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:56.679
<v Speaker 6>in point of fact, there's over one thousand moi and

914
01:01:56.719 --> 01:02:00.519
<v Speaker 6>they're spread all over the island. They're where ancient villages

915
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:03.119
<v Speaker 6>used to be, so we're gonna go visit a bunch

916
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:06.599
<v Speaker 6>of those. There's also the quarry. There's one quarry where

917
01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:08.760
<v Speaker 6>almost all of them were made, and a lot of

918
01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:11.960
<v Speaker 6>them are still half made lying in the quarry. That

919
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:15.480
<v Speaker 6>thing is just a sight to see how grew up.

920
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Briefly and I didn't realize they have an observatory there.

921
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.679
<v Speaker 2>Is it a planetarium or is it more of a

922
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:24.519
<v Speaker 2>setup for evening sites.

923
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:29.159
<v Speaker 6>It's a planetarium. It's a passion project by a man

924
01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:33.719
<v Speaker 6>named EDMUNDO. Edwards who's been studying the archaeo astronomy of

925
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:38.280
<v Speaker 6>the island for his entire life, I think almost fifty

926
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:41.000
<v Speaker 6>years now. He knows more than anyone and he put

927
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 6>together this planetarium to share this lifetime of knowledge with

928
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:47.280
<v Speaker 6>the visitors that come to the place.

929
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Fantastic.

930
01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:51.960
<v Speaker 2>So March fifteenth to the twenty third, that is a week,

931
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 2>and it sounds like we've really packed a lot in

932
01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:57.679
<v Speaker 2>during those seven days, right.

933
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:01.400
<v Speaker 6>I tell you, For an island that's only twelve miles across,

934
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:03.639
<v Speaker 6>there is an endless amount of things to see there.

935
01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:05.199
<v Speaker 3>Looking forward to it.

936
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic all right. For more information, go to Earthncients dot

937
01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 2>com forward slash tours, look for the photo of Ed

938
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:15.760
<v Speaker 2>standing next to one of the big Mai sculptures and

939
01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:18.039
<v Speaker 2>registered as soon as you can. I want to let

940
01:03:18.119 --> 01:03:22.400
<v Speaker 2>you know that we are now looking at being fairly full.

941
01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:25.360
<v Speaker 2>The maximum we're going to take us thirty people, so

942
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.239
<v Speaker 2>we might be be getting really close to that. So

943
01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:33.280
<v Speaker 2>again go to earth Ancients dot com, forward slash tours.

944
01:03:33.320 --> 01:03:35.639
<v Speaker 3>Thanks Ed, Thank you, Cliff.

945
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I think you can hear my frustration in that interview

946
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:47.239
<v Speaker 2>of really nothing as significant happening since this billion my

947
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:50.480
<v Speaker 2>air case. In other words, we haven't had a disclosure

948
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:54.599
<v Speaker 2>from our government. We haven't had anything as outstanding as

949
01:03:55.280 --> 01:04:01.199
<v Speaker 2>a beamship coming and hovering over a farm. Thousands of

950
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:06.760
<v Speaker 2>photographs taken, video taken the engines of this craft being

951
01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:12.519
<v Speaker 2>recorded and really a dissemination of information from an alien

952
01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:21.000
<v Speaker 2>race off world civilization that is reported to have been

953
01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:24.840
<v Speaker 2>with us from the beginning and perhaps was part of

954
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:33.400
<v Speaker 2>our development creation what they call hybrid program. So and

955
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:37.280
<v Speaker 2>this is all you know forty five years ago. What

956
01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:42.599
<v Speaker 2>has happened since? What is happening now? Why is there

957
01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:51.239
<v Speaker 2>such a problem with our government, with the various agencies NASA, JPLT,

958
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Department of Defense, the Pentagon, the American government? Why is

959
01:04:56.639 --> 01:04:59.440
<v Speaker 2>this being kept secret? And then on top of that,

960
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:07.119
<v Speaker 2>rebranding the unidentified flying objects as unidentified aerial phenomena? Why

961
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:11.320
<v Speaker 2>why do that? It doesn't make any sense. There's a

962
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:14.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of confusion, a lot of problems associated with it.

963
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:18.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that they know a lot more. The government

964
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:21.199
<v Speaker 2>knows a lot more. The United States government knows a

965
01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:22.880
<v Speaker 2>lot more than they're leading.

966
01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Us to believe.

967
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.559
<v Speaker 2>And you know, they haven't figured out a way to

968
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:32.280
<v Speaker 2>shoot these craft down because there are hundreds thousands of

969
01:05:32.360 --> 01:05:37.079
<v Speaker 2>years well, as sim Jossi said from the pld's group,

970
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:42.039
<v Speaker 2>three thousand years ahead of US. I mean, that's pretty amazing.

971
01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Three thousand years of development ahead of US. I really

972
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:52.079
<v Speaker 2>appreciate that. So I hope you enjoyed that interview, tremendously

973
01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:56.800
<v Speaker 2>fascinated with this. I will mention this also that we

974
01:05:56.840 --> 01:05:58.239
<v Speaker 2>will be having doctor A. V.

975
01:05:58.400 --> 01:05:59.719
<v Speaker 3>Loeb on the program before.

976
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:02.239
<v Speaker 2>The end of the year. Year And as you remember,

977
01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:08.159
<v Speaker 2>he was funded to go out and dredge the Pacific

978
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Ocean's bottom to collect remnants metal scrap of what he

979
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:22.159
<v Speaker 2>believes is a probe in advanced et probe that entered

980
01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:26.119
<v Speaker 2>our atmosphere and burnt up, and they tracked it and

981
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:32.760
<v Speaker 2>they believe they found bits and pieces of it, So

982
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:33.280
<v Speaker 2>we want.

983
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:34.079
<v Speaker 3>To catch up with that.

984
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:38.199
<v Speaker 2>And the last I heard from him was they're going

985
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:41.119
<v Speaker 2>to go back, and I think they may have already

986
01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:43.440
<v Speaker 2>done it or they're about to do it. So we'll

987
01:06:43.519 --> 01:06:47.880
<v Speaker 2>learn shortly when he's on the program. So but you know,

988
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:53.360
<v Speaker 2>that's the only disclosure. You know, this really, he's really

989
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:57.679
<v Speaker 2>the only disclosure. And it's a little frustrating because these

990
01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:03.440
<v Speaker 2>UAPs are everywhere, being cited everywhere, and why we don't

991
01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:05.440
<v Speaker 2>know more is really the big question.

992
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:08.079
<v Speaker 3>So that was fun.

993
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:15.800
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1003
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1004
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1009
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<v Speaker 2>All right, If that's it for today's program, I want

1010
01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:16.920
<v Speaker 2>to think my guest today Brett Elder and uh the

1011
01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:22.159
<v Speaker 2>forty fifth edition of her book UFO Contact from the Plades,

1012
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Volumes one and two. As always, a team of Geltor

1013
01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Mark Foster and everyone who makes this thing happen. You

1014
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 2>guys are rock all right, take care of me well

1015
01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and we will talk to you next time.