Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.
Speaker 2: That is the remarkable sound recording of a Palladeon beamship
Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty that was taken in Switzerland out in
Speaker 2: a farm a farmer named Billy Meyer, who was allowed
Speaker 2: to take photos of this specific type of ship and
Speaker 2: understand how it works. And not only was the inner
Speaker 2: engines of this UAP recorded, but also information was divulged
Speaker 2: on how it works, its operations, the time it takes
Speaker 2: from the PLDs constellation to Earth, and what happens to
Speaker 2: the occupants of the ship.
Speaker 3: Hi, this is Cliff.
Speaker 2: Today we are celebrating the forty fifth anniversary of what
Speaker 2: is possibly one of the most remarkable contacts ever recorded
Speaker 2: in our century, which is that Billy Meyer Pladean contact
Speaker 2: which happened in the late nineteen seventies, nineteen seventy two
Speaker 2: through I believe it was eighty one between some Jazzy
Speaker 2: who was a cosmonaut from the Pliades with Billy Meyer,
Speaker 2: who was a Swiss farmer who was chosen to receive
Speaker 2: information on this constellation and actually where Earth was at
Speaker 2: the time in terms of evolution. My guest today is
Speaker 2: Britt Elder who has written this book called UFO Contact
Speaker 2: from the Pleades, Volume one, Volumes one, and two, and
Speaker 2: I actually remember this research quite distinctly because as a
Speaker 2: program director in San Francisco, we had a number of
Speaker 2: individuals who were researching this amazing case. And what makes
Speaker 2: it one of the most outstanding contact stories is that
Speaker 2: not only was Billy Myers selected to receive information, but
Speaker 2: over a period of I think it's about five or
Speaker 2: six years, these beamships would show up to display their technology.
Speaker 2: Billy and one or two other people from his family
Speaker 2: were allowed to fly inside these craft, and we get
Speaker 2: a sense of just how these craft are created. We
Speaker 2: later learned that the Pladeans are about three thousand years
Speaker 2: advance of us technologically. What's even more interesting is the
Speaker 2: fact that they actually talk about their evolution where we're
Speaker 2: at right now, and how they also went through a
Speaker 2: period of nuclear crisis. The threat of war and elimination
Speaker 2: was very high on the scale, and an earlier phase
Speaker 2: of their development their evolution actually included a war where
Speaker 2: nuclear weapons were used. And then the story goes that
Speaker 2: the civilization, the Pladean civilization had to basically reboot a
Speaker 2: scenario at the time that they were working with and
Speaker 2: hoping that we wouldn't go through it. So we're still
Speaker 2: at a phase where there is a threat of nuclear
Speaker 2: launch and nuclear weapons being used and the possible devastation.
Speaker 2: We're crossing our fingers that doesn't happen. So, but of
Speaker 2: all the cases that we've had on this program, I
Speaker 2: think that Billy Meyer case is really one to think about,
Speaker 2: one to praise because the governments were not allowed to
Speaker 2: be a part of it. In fact, NASA and the
Speaker 2: United States governments as well as European governments were notified,
Speaker 2: but they didn't react until well after the contact began.
Speaker 2: And communications between the cosmonaut sim Jazzy and Billy Myers
Speaker 2: was documented in a number of interviews and books and articles.
Speaker 2: And you know, we've talked about the different contacts we've
Speaker 2: had Whitley Strieber on the program, who really paints a
Speaker 2: fairly disturbing aspect of contact with aliens. But we can
Speaker 2: say from the start the contact between these Pladeon cosmonauts
Speaker 2: and Billy Myers is pretty positive. It's very forward thinking,
Speaker 2: it's information exchange and apparently, and we'll learn more about
Speaker 2: this today, there is a great deal of early preparation
Speaker 2: between pladeons who met with Billy prior to coming with
Speaker 2: their beamships to Switzerland.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Really enjoyed. This has really got me started. This is
Speaker 2: like we're talking nineteen seventy two's when he started having contacts.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was everywhere. It was shocking, and I
Speaker 2: think they knew that if they went through the Apartment
Speaker 2: of Defense or the Pentagon or the governmental agencies, they
Speaker 2: would be shut out. It would be suppressed as it
Speaker 2: most of the sightings and the contacts are today and
Speaker 2: we wouldn't know what was going on. And this this
Speaker 2: these cosmonauts knew ahead of time that are where we
Speaker 2: were evolution wise wouldn't allow their contact information to be released.
Speaker 2: So today's program is we are not Alone. And my
Speaker 2: guest is author and research investigator Britt Elder. I guess
Speaker 2: today is Britt Elder. She is an investigative author and
Speaker 2: documentary filmmaker who has explored different UFO scenarios around the world.
Speaker 2: And she actually visited Billy Meyer at his farm in
Speaker 2: the late nineteen seventies and interviewed him extensively, bringing back
Speaker 2: photographs and information on this contact with this alien group.
Speaker 2: From the Pleiads, So you're not part of moufon. You
Speaker 2: were independent researchers. How did you get in touch with
Speaker 2: Colonel Wendell Stevens who is a ufologist and I had
Speaker 2: known him for a number of years through the UFO
Speaker 2: interest that I had. He's somebody that you hired or
Speaker 2: did he meet with you and your husband?
Speaker 4: He was the prison friend. We had known each other
Speaker 4: for years. He had been he had actually gone to
Speaker 4: Ecuador with Lee when Lee was doing a lot of
Speaker 4: exploration down there, and we had known him for years
Speaker 4: and years. He brought the case to us, and you know,
Speaker 4: when we looked at the photographs, we just said, oh no,
Speaker 4: these can't be real. They're too perfect. So that sort
Speaker 4: of set that up. And then Wendell went on over
Speaker 4: to Switzerland and he met with Meyer. He came back
Speaker 4: and he says, I absolutely need a strong investigative body
Speaker 4: behind this. If we do anything with it, we've got
Speaker 4: to do it as a team. So we brought our
Speaker 4: associate Tom Welchin, and we decided, okay, we'll tackle it.
Speaker 4: We went from there.
Speaker 2: I think it's wonderful that you went to Switzerland to
Speaker 2: meet with Billy Oh and I didn't realize that until
Speaker 2: I read that in the book.
Speaker 4: How do you there? For over a seven year period
Speaker 4: of the investigation, we spent over a year living at
Speaker 4: the farm, Lee and I did okay. We had a
Speaker 4: little camp trailer right next to the house, and we
Speaker 4: stayed there at the farm during any trip that we
Speaker 4: need over there.
Speaker 2: What does Billy say about Because I know, I know
Speaker 2: the story and it's all coming back to me now
Speaker 2: through various lifetimes and it just gets very convoluted earlier
Speaker 2: meetings and Indian sover and so on. But what does
Speaker 2: Billy say about why he was chosen as the contact?
Speaker 3: Because this is a huge.
Speaker 4: Deal and it goes to reincarnation. Yeah, because they recognized
Speaker 4: his life pattern as being from the plates, they felt
Speaker 4: com triple with it. But they monitored him for ten
Speaker 4: years before they initiated this contact on January twenty eighth,
Speaker 4: nineteen seventy five. They wanted to see if he would
Speaker 4: be capable of actually accepting the pressures that would come
Speaker 4: along with being an open contactee. That's the reason for
Speaker 4: the monitoring for ten years. That's when they initiated the
Speaker 4: contact with him and set up this communication and turned
Speaker 4: over the evidence, but they really felt they had to
Speaker 4: do it, and just to kind of go through a
Speaker 4: little bit of other contact ee history besides Billy, it
Speaker 4: seems quite often contacts start with children between the age
Speaker 4: of five and six. I've run into more and more
Speaker 4: contact used to said, oh, I saw something when I
Speaker 4: was five and I looked up and then i started
Speaker 4: getting these telepathic thoughts, and I've run into that all
Speaker 4: the time. That was no different for Billy. He was
Speaker 4: with his father, they were out walking, he looked up,
Speaker 4: he saw this craft. He says, what is that? And
Speaker 4: it was during World War Two? And his dad said,
Speaker 4: that's one of Hitler's airships. Well, Billy didn't feel right
Speaker 4: about that, but at the same time he wasn't quite sure,
Speaker 4: and then he began having telepathic contact with an individual. So, yes,
Speaker 4: it seems to be something that it happens quite often
Speaker 4: when you're really discussing contactees that had an experience as
Speaker 4: a child, and then throughout their life they've had these
Speaker 4: intermittent contacts and then finally a great big contact.
Speaker 3: Is it your belief?
Speaker 2: And maybe Billy has out been outspoken about this, but
Speaker 2: is he the only one from Earth that these Thedean
Speaker 2: cosmonauts have contacted with the same frequency as him, or
Speaker 2: is this going on all over the place, all over
Speaker 2: the planet Earth.
Speaker 4: Billy has said that others have been contacted, that they
Speaker 4: made the plade Ins made attempts to contact others, but
Speaker 4: as far as he knew, he was the only contact
Speaker 4: given the evidence and has this ongoing communication m wonderful.
Speaker 2: I think it's important for our listeners that you give
Speaker 2: us a little highlight about the historical.
Speaker 3: Contact.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to get too heavy into it,
Speaker 2: but it's important that we understand that during the Dynastic
Speaker 2: Egyptian period, the Maya, the Chinese, there have been exchanges
Speaker 2: of information, if you want to call it that. There
Speaker 2: may have there may be a little technology involved, but
Speaker 2: you don't really say that. But we think it's perhaps
Speaker 2: maybe pushing in the right direction. Kaka bit about the
Speaker 2: historical notion of Pladeans interacting and being, as you call it,
Speaker 2: the big brothers, the big sisters of our race.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very interesting because well, we started looking into
Speaker 4: the history of the Plates. It's a very young star system,
Speaker 4: so we're wondering, well, okay, it's so young, how would
Speaker 4: they be visiting us for so long as they had
Speaker 4: claimed with Meyer. But we found in every indigenous culture
Speaker 4: that we researched all through Africa, through Europe, North America,
Speaker 4: South America, Asia, they all revered the Pleades. They were
Speaker 4: looked at as the harbingers of destiny. They were always
Speaker 4: there to help fill in a space of knowledge that
Speaker 4: was needed at the time. In any cases, it was
Speaker 4: to improve agriculture or to create an observatory where they
Speaker 4: could observe specific things. They were looked at and always
Speaker 4: referenced as female, the Seven Sisters, things like that. But
Speaker 4: it goes through all cultures, and we've really started looking
Speaker 4: heavily into North American cultures because all of the indigenous
Speaker 4: people here, all of the nations, all have a big
Speaker 4: connection to the Pleiades. Many say that when you die,
Speaker 4: your spirit goes to the Pleiades. So yeah, it's quite fascinating,
Speaker 4: but it is all over the work and they all
Speaker 4: look at them as bringing good information to them.
Speaker 2: I like the aspect of the book where you actually
Speaker 2: talk about certain temples. You reference Dendera, the city where
Speaker 2: there's the Hathor Temple, which I've actually been to, and
Speaker 2: you say that in some portion of the walls, there's
Speaker 2: a hieroglyphic that states specifics regarding the plates talk a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 4: Of yeah, it specifically shows ladies and that that is
Speaker 4: where the source of contact came from, and that was
Speaker 4: That's only one of many many examples. I'm in northern
Speaker 4: Arizona and up here at Hope there is a beautiful
Speaker 4: petrocrif glyff wall that they believe references the Plates coming
Speaker 4: down to speak with them. You find this all over
Speaker 4: the place. It's not just in the Greek temples or
Speaker 4: in Egypt, George, just in one specific location. It's literally
Speaker 4: all over the place. Wong Ti of China, he was
Speaker 4: one that said the Plates came in and told him
Speaker 4: you have to do this, this and this to make
Speaker 4: a good, strong culture. And that's all in there. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's literally something that's throughout and around the globe.
Speaker 2: I mean, they appear to be. And I want to
Speaker 2: talk about some Jazzy the cosmonaut who's very outspoken with
Speaker 2: billion It featured all through your book. It seems like
Speaker 2: not only are they guiding us as a force as
Speaker 2: a civilization, that's according to the writing, about three thousand
Speaker 2: years older than us, which is substantial, but they have more.
Speaker 2: They're more involved than simply teaching. You suggest that maybe
Speaker 2: they were the ones that created us, and we might
Speaker 2: be hybrids.
Speaker 4: I guess hybrids. Yes. They claim that they seeded this
Speaker 4: planet along with other extraterrestrial cultures, creating civilization here, and
Speaker 4: that's why they sort of look at us as their
Speaker 4: little brothers and sisters. They don't want us to go
Speaker 4: through the same traumas that they have gone through in
Speaker 4: their development. Very concerned about that because they did not
Speaker 4: originate in the Pliades. They originated in the star system Libra,
Speaker 4: in the Constellation of Libra, and their planet there was
Speaker 4: much like ours. There were warring factions on that planet
Speaker 4: and they ended up destroying it. The difference was those
Speaker 4: individuals have the capability of leaving and going to a
Speaker 4: new star system, finding a planet they could engineer, and
Speaker 4: then creating a life space where they could live on
Speaker 4: that planet. Originally it wouldn't have held life, but they
Speaker 4: had the ability to engineer it and to get to it.
Speaker 4: We don't have that ability, and they're very concerned about
Speaker 4: us now because we are such a fractured group of people.
Speaker 4: We need to come together and that's one of their
Speaker 4: strongest messages is that we have to learn to communicate,
Speaker 4: to listen, to hear, to move forward with the idea
Speaker 4: is rather than to get stuck in conflict.
Speaker 3: Can you speak to.
Speaker 2: The different races on the planet Earth, the African centric,
Speaker 2: the Asian Centric, the Caucasian eurocentric people, I mean, the
Speaker 2: Pladeans that I have got a sense of from this
Speaker 2: writing seem to be they look Caucasian to me. But
Speaker 2: would you say that these other races were from the
Speaker 2: other complementary races who came in seated Earth.
Speaker 4: Yes. In fact, the African group that you spoke of
Speaker 4: is usually associated with Lyra, and they're a black race.
Speaker 4: The Chinese and the Japanese both in their history say
Speaker 4: that they come from a planet on the other side
Speaker 4: of our sun. Neither of them name it, but it
Speaker 4: is written in their history. The Platians are very much
Speaker 4: like us from the standpoint of looking human. They are tall,
Speaker 4: they are usually fair scanned, blonde haired, blue eye, more
Speaker 4: of your Scandinavian looking individuals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they.
Speaker 4: Do have a difference. They have an ear lobe that
Speaker 4: comes right into their jaw. It just comes straight down
Speaker 4: this way, and that was one of the first things
Speaker 4: that Billy noticed. How different that was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about some jazzy. She is the cosmonaut who
Speaker 2: works with Billy and has a connection. I guess they
Speaker 2: speak together telepathically. She comes in at the very beginning,
Speaker 2: I think, doesn't she introduce herself she's the captain of
Speaker 2: this group or something.
Speaker 3: Speak talk a little bit about her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when she first amountability and he does a great
Speaker 4: job of explaining this in the documentary. But she came
Speaker 4: in and she said, I am a captain of a
Speaker 4: group in this sector of space, and I have been
Speaker 4: designated to contact you as soon.
Speaker 3: Was that mean designated?
Speaker 4: She was actually given that a kind of appointment. Okay,
Speaker 4: you go meet with him because there was that past
Speaker 4: life connection that they recognize. So that's how that began.
Speaker 4: And then the conversations were primarily with Semyasa, but there
Speaker 4: were others involved too. There was Petah and there was Ketzel,
Speaker 4: and they were both male. Simyasa told Billy that the
Speaker 4: reason that they selected a female to meet with him
Speaker 4: first is that men of Earth were less hostile to women,
Speaker 4: and therefore it would be an easier conversation the first
Speaker 4: time around.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: She has a well of knowledge. And I mentioned this
Speaker 2: again for those of you listening. In this book that
Speaker 2: is coming out UFO Contact from the Leads, it is
Speaker 2: pack full of photographs. It's probably the best example of craft.
Speaker 2: And we're gonna talk about the different craft in a
Speaker 2: minute here. But there is a pet. Who's the picture
Speaker 2: of the woman? It's not her some jazzie, it's somebody else.
Speaker 4: It's Ascot and she is supposed to be from the
Speaker 4: Dolla universe. Yeah, that's one of those photographs. We'd talked
Speaker 4: briefly about why people attacked this case. Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that's important to address because it's something you cannot say
Speaker 4: for sure. Is a person called Ascot from another universe?
Speaker 4: That's Billy's true. He knows that, but there's no way
Speaker 4: to verified that that's who she is or what she is.
Speaker 4: A lot of people came out and said, oh, no,
Speaker 4: she's an actress. Okay, but still he has that. And
Speaker 4: then you question, and we asked, Billy, is this a
Speaker 4: representative picture of the individual you met named? Ask it?
Speaker 4: And he said, no, that's it. So what do you
Speaker 4: do when you have the physical evidence that no one
Speaker 4: can duplicate? And that includes the medal. At that time,
Speaker 4: the photographs in the movie footage. There were no photoshop programs.
Speaker 4: Nobody had a camera on their phone of any type.
Speaker 4: The medal has a thulium in it, which is a
Speaker 4: rare Earth element. How to armor with the sixth grade
Speaker 4: education know to get that incorporated into a medal that
Speaker 4: was created with the cold fusion process, which we could
Speaker 4: not do at that time on this planet. So no
Speaker 4: one has duplicated evidence. They couldn't, but it was easy
Speaker 4: to attack the things. It didn't sit right, and even
Speaker 4: in the book I explained, many of these things made
Speaker 4: us question too what is this? But when you have
Speaker 4: that much evidence, we had to rely on the physical
Speaker 4: things we could analyze as investigators and move forward from them.
Speaker 2: One of the sad aspects of this is his own
Speaker 2: wife was like debunking him, and I wanted to ask
Speaker 2: you didn't she see these craft too?
Speaker 4: He did? Was not em her on camera saying that
Speaker 4: oh really, yes, I do. Yeah, she saw the craft.
Speaker 4: She never had contact with Samyasa. That wasn't allowed. Billy
Speaker 4: was the only one to have contact, but she and
Speaker 4: many and many other people saw the craft, experience the
Speaker 4: sound at one point, she was on one end of
Speaker 4: a field, Billy was on the other. They both had
Speaker 4: cassette recorders and they were recording the audio of a UFO.
Speaker 4: They were watching Wow. And then for her to come
Speaker 4: out after the divorce, which was a pretty contentious divorce
Speaker 4: and say what she said that this is a hub cap.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, yeah, so she
Speaker 2: was just being sour.
Speaker 3: She's just being sour. She was.
Speaker 4: She was angry, and truthfully, I understand that anger to
Speaker 4: a great degree because her life was turned upside down.
Speaker 4: People would show up at the farmhouse all hours of
Speaker 4: the night, demanding attention, demanding to speak to Billy. They
Speaker 4: just walk in the door and sit down at the
Speaker 4: kitchen table and wait for him. Yeah, it was pretty rough.
Speaker 4: Her daughter survived an attempt to kidnap her, Billy have
Speaker 4: several assassination attempts were present when one took place. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: this it was rough.
Speaker 2: Did the plea these express a desire for Billy to
Speaker 2: make this known nationally internationally.
Speaker 3: Or what were there?
Speaker 2: What were their goals in contacting him?
Speaker 4: That was the bottom line. Take this to the world,
Speaker 4: Let them know that they are not alone and part
Speaker 4: of that was because our space program was really developing
Speaker 4: at that point, you know, for sending Voyager off to
Speaker 4: ju Bitter and everything else. We were talking about manned
Speaker 4: missions eventually to Mars. We're talking about now and we
Speaker 4: have to realize that we're going to run into other
Speaker 4: beings out there that may not think exactly as we do,
Speaker 4: and we have to be able to handle that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that really is one of the reasons we wanted
Speaker 4: to bring this book back out now. It's just we've
Speaker 4: got kids now that are into I'm going to live
Speaker 4: on Mars then know that you're not going to be
Speaker 4: alone out there, that there are going to be other civilizations.
Speaker 2: But Brett, why is it that we aren't having And
Speaker 2: you may know more about this than I do, but
Speaker 2: why aren't we having more forward action types of communications
Speaker 2: with off world types where welcome to the planetary system
Speaker 2: by the way, we're close by and so forth and
Speaker 2: so on. Is it a complete blanket cover up by
Speaker 2: the military that we're not allowed to have this or
Speaker 2: do the powers of be just say, look, you're just
Speaker 2: too unevolved to take this.
Speaker 4: I think we have to grow into it. I think
Speaker 4: we have to develop as humans to learn to respect
Speaker 4: whatever else is out there. I think there is the
Speaker 4: degree of cover up. There are so many incredible experiencers
Speaker 4: out there, They had just remarkable encounters with all different
Speaker 4: types of beings, and yet you don't hear the positive
Speaker 4: side of it. We are, unfortunately a world much more
Speaker 4: steeped in fear. We prefer to be in that panic
Speaker 4: mode or oh my gosh, if I don't know what
Speaker 4: it is, I have to be afraid of it, and
Speaker 4: the lack of curiosity I think has helped spark that.
Speaker 4: But now there is a new curiosity happening thanks to
Speaker 4: the government part. Although I don't fall in line and
Speaker 4: say they've got to tell me it's real or not
Speaker 4: that comes from here, as far as I'm concerned. Every
Speaker 4: individual makes that their own decision. But I think the
Speaker 4: government coming out and showing the TikTok video and talking
Speaker 4: to the Navy captains, that's made a big difference for
Speaker 4: a lot of people who are now curious, where before
Speaker 4: they wouldn't even think twice about having an open conversation
Speaker 4: about UFOs.
Speaker 2: Do you think our government is and I'm speaking more
Speaker 2: in line with the DoD and NASA, our concerned you
Speaker 2: bring up in the book a very famous document, the
Speaker 2: Brookings Institute document, which was made created in nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: many years ago, in which they looked at and surveyed
Speaker 2: people and basically the bottom line was that people would
Speaker 2: commit suicide, the society would go to hell in the handbasket,
Speaker 2: and of course religion would falter. Since that time, they
Speaker 2: I think it was NASA had a theologial theologian look
Speaker 2: at it, religion, just look at it, and the same
Speaker 2: response kind of came out, No, we don't think it's
Speaker 2: a good idea, so for and so on. Why are
Speaker 2: they asking the religions? Why don't they ask social media
Speaker 2: people exactly which would be Which makes me think that
Speaker 2: and this is just my feeling, it's kind of a
Speaker 2: backward look at this phenomenon of alien interaction, off world
Speaker 2: interaction to welcome us into a collective.
Speaker 3: What do you say about that?
Speaker 4: I absolutely agree with you. It's unfortunate that they not
Speaker 4: only take it to religion, but they take it to fear.
Speaker 4: And when you pose a question based in fear, you
Speaker 4: will get a fearful answer. They haven't learned the art
Speaker 4: of neutrality yet. But if you took it to Facebook,
Speaker 4: on a neutral lap or any other social media aspect
Speaker 4: and said do you believe would you how would you react?
Speaker 4: I think the responses would be remarkable. The powers be
Speaker 4: don't give the people credit for their curiosity and their
Speaker 4: knowledge and the ability to research. We don't have to
Speaker 4: buy into what we're being told by whomever the power
Speaker 4: is at the moment. We need to find it within ourselves,
Speaker 4: in our own research and our own ability to learn.
Speaker 4: That's part of growth, and if you just follow, you
Speaker 4: never grow. So I always say good on the government.
Speaker 4: I think they did a wonderful thing by opening the door,
Speaker 4: but now it's up to us as individuals to learn more.
Speaker 2: Now when you say open the door, I think you're
Speaker 2: referring to the rebranding of UFOs quaps, which is like, well,
Speaker 2: I guess that's kind of good.
Speaker 4: The same thing.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing. We don't get much more details
Speaker 2: about the beings and the craft or whatever. And I've
Speaker 2: had a number of I had a astronomer from NASA
Speaker 2: actually began chronicling these things.
Speaker 3: And he was blacklisted.
Speaker 2: I want you to talk a little bit, and I
Speaker 2: hope you know who this individualist I'm about to speak
Speaker 2: on which is doctor Avy Lowe Harvard University. He has
Speaker 2: been looking at what he believes is off world probes
Speaker 2: that have been observing us, and about a year ago
Speaker 2: he scraped the bottom of the Pacific Ocean to pick
Speaker 2: up what he believes were pieces of the exotic metals
Speaker 2: of one of these probes.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 2: And I think he's on our side in other words,
Speaker 2: in terms of information release, We're going to take a
Speaker 2: short commercial break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves,
Speaker 2: and we'll return shortly with my guest today, Britt Elder
Speaker 2: discussing her new book, UFO Contact from the Pleiady, the
Speaker 2: forty fifth anniversary edition. We'll be right back. My guest
Speaker 2: today is Britt Elder. She is a ufologist. She has
Speaker 2: studied the UFO phenomenon for decades and has now compiled
Speaker 2: a book called UFO Contact from the PLDs Volumes one
Speaker 2: and two. And this is a look at the one
Speaker 2: of the most spectacular contact cases from a alien group
Speaker 2: coming from the constellation PLDES and their contact with a
Speaker 2: Swiss farmer named Billy Meyer. What do you think is
Speaker 2: the likely outcome of a disclosure? In other words, not
Speaker 2: just first and you might be going, Cliff, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I'm curious because you're kind of steeped in this.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know what it would be, but
Speaker 4: I think I have a pretty good idea. I think
Speaker 4: it would be manipulated. Unfortunately, with AI, now the question
Speaker 4: asked to come up immediately, is it real there is
Speaker 4: a AI? Yeah, exactly like the old memory X tech,
Speaker 4: you know, tapes like yeah, that's going back, but it's
Speaker 4: I think it could be manipulated, and I think that
Speaker 4: could be very unfortunate. That's why I always tell anybody
Speaker 4: i'm speaking with, it's up to you to do the research.
Speaker 4: You've got to find out what resonates with you and
Speaker 4: why it resonates with you. It's not about the government saying,
Speaker 4: oh here, it is great if they do, but what
Speaker 4: are they also telling you with it? What can you
Speaker 4: learn from it? So it comes back to the individual.
Speaker 4: And I love the fact that today there are so
Speaker 4: many study groups popping up all over the place. It
Speaker 4: wants to know and we need and I've been saying
Speaker 4: this for some time, we need a repository. The UFO cases,
Speaker 4: good bad, in different abduction contact ee documented and not
Speaker 4: are available for people to peruse and look through.
Speaker 2: Well, isn't that kind of move Does that move on
Speaker 2: in a way?
Speaker 4: Originally?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Where do people go to find those stories? And I
Speaker 4: know mister Green would have done a lot of work
Speaker 4: with all of the old classified documents by releasing what
Speaker 4: he could, He's done great work. But we need one space,
Speaker 4: one giant internet site where everything can go on and
Speaker 4: the documentaries that have been made and never seen, like
Speaker 4: a documentary we made eighty two, went to our mailing
Speaker 4: list and that was it. So released it with this
Speaker 4: book and it's out now, same title UFO Contact from
Speaker 4: the Plates and it's available on Amazon or you can
Speaker 4: stream it from the publisher Beyond Words. But we thought,
Speaker 4: all right, we need to start putting all of this
Speaker 4: information out there, whether it's something we worked on or not,
Speaker 4: because there's so much there. Yeah, it's just it's invaluable
Speaker 4: right now that we learn and we understand.
Speaker 2: Is there some footage of these craft hovering in your documentary?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, oh you got so I have to go find
Speaker 3: that so those of.
Speaker 4: You listening, I'll get your copy. But yes, that's wonderful.
Speaker 5: Because you have the footage of three craft in the
Speaker 5: air at the same time, you have footage of a
Speaker 5: craft that blinks out in a matter of Now that
Speaker 5: remember eight milimeter footage, And then do you have all
Speaker 5: these frames per second?
Speaker 4: Right? No, it blinks out and one frame comes back
Speaker 4: in another, and the footage has not been tampered with
Speaker 4: or cut. And this is you know, the old fashioned
Speaker 4: your mom and dad had it in their movie camera
Speaker 4: kind of footage.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's in there. Another one where there is
Speaker 4: this huff ufo and it's just as they told Meyer.
Speaker 4: It's writing the human resonance waves of the Earth, and
Speaker 4: there's a par that drives underneath it on a road.
Speaker 4: So you get to see all of that and experience that.
Speaker 4: It couldn't go into the book. We got as much
Speaker 4: information into the books as we could, but that's different.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate all the different photographs in the book.
Speaker 2: I want you to talk a little bit about the
Speaker 2: different types of crafts that are featured, because I think
Speaker 2: some Jossi says they went home and then because of
Speaker 2: the time warp or something, they came back with different
Speaker 2: types of ships that were more advanced, that had different.
Speaker 4: Do different things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about what the early contact with Billy and
Speaker 2: then the later contact and they're kind of showing off
Speaker 2: their technology to him, you know, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the very first contact with Billy, they had to
Speaker 4: take that show and decommission it. And they called the
Speaker 4: ship's beamships because of the beamships, right, But they had
Speaker 4: to decommission it because it leaked radiation and they weren't
Speaker 4: aware of that. We found it when we made the
Speaker 4: documentary because we brought it in. A Wheeled Hair Group
Speaker 4: is a company that works with nuclear radiation in Switzerland,
Speaker 4: very well known, very well respected. They came in and
Speaker 4: they found gamma radiation levels pegging the meter where Billy
Speaker 4: had the first contact seven years prior interrupt you.
Speaker 2: So, was it the place where it landed had the
Speaker 2: high radiation or was it something else?
Speaker 4: No, it was exactly where it landed. He walked the
Speaker 4: circle the perimeter of it and it was right there
Speaker 4: in that area. It was fine. Also, yamma radiation high
Speaker 4: levels in the needle on his mophead and his belt buckle.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so he was exposed to this, which is
Speaker 4: why they took that draft and decommissioned. They brought in
Speaker 4: another variation too, which is the craft. You see that
Speaker 4: looks so sleek and it looks like a little UFO
Speaker 4: race car. It's beautiful. And then they kept bringing in
Speaker 4: different craft that could do different things because they could
Speaker 4: then create an interdimensional craft. They had drone craft that
Speaker 4: basically monitored, that didn't carry an occupant, but could monitor
Speaker 4: things happening on Earth as far as atmospheric issues, ocean issues,
Speaker 4: earth issues, things like that. So yeah, they all had
Speaker 4: different purposes. But the one that I think is so
Speaker 4: fascinating is the one with the big cupola on top
Speaker 4: that so often you'll see at a place called Hassembul
Speaker 4: and it's snowy underneath. And that is a remarkable craft
Speaker 4: because you see all the different colors, You see the
Speaker 4: gold in it, you see silver reflecting in it, you
Speaker 4: see the mountain reflecting underneath it. It's quite amazing. And
Speaker 4: that is an interdimensional craft.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about the time factor this. First of all,
Speaker 2: what's the distance between the Pleiads where they came from
Speaker 2: and Earth. Isn't it like twenty light years.
Speaker 4: Or something four hundred light years?
Speaker 2: Four hundred which is under our current technology, would take
Speaker 2: what a thousand years to get to?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they have a different form of propulsion. They
Speaker 4: say they use tachion systems, which we found an individual
Speaker 4: in Scotland, doctor John McVeagh, who was working on tachim
Speaker 4: propulsion systems at the time. Wow, it's really fascinating. So
Speaker 4: then we brought in h David Froning and he was
Speaker 4: from McDonald Douglas and Alan Holt from NASA, and we
Speaker 4: talk to them, how is it possible. The Pladians say
Speaker 4: they get from their planet Era to Earth in seven hours,
Speaker 4: and they explain to so beautifully, because you have a
Speaker 4: certain period of time where you have to need the atmosphere,
Speaker 4: and a certain period of time you have to re
Speaker 4: enter an atmosphere, and everything in between is null and void.
Speaker 4: There is no time and there is no space.
Speaker 3: There's no time.
Speaker 4: No time. Time is our creation. Wow, No time does
Speaker 4: not exist. And even the Pladians say, we can't judge
Speaker 4: time like you do because we have to look at events.
Speaker 4: We have an event clock. Rather than saying, oh, this
Speaker 4: will happen in twenty twenty eight, no, we have to
Speaker 4: say if event A happens, and then event B happens,
Speaker 4: event C will definitely happen. But if event A happens
Speaker 4: and B does happen, C won't happen. So that's how
Speaker 4: they look at time spacing. But they say when you
Speaker 4: travel in space that distance doesn't exist. Space literally is
Speaker 4: null and void. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Can they come to Earth and go back in time?
Speaker 4: Apparently the Pladeans through that interdimensional craft can, but other
Speaker 4: civilizations can and do. Yeah all the time.
Speaker 2: In the book, you hint that there are other civilizations
Speaker 2: that are here now observing. Is there any sense of
Speaker 2: how many? And are they kind of like anthropologists that
Speaker 2: are observing us and wanting to see where we're going
Speaker 2: as a species.
Speaker 4: Mostly yeah, they want to see what we're going to
Speaker 4: do with ourselves because we're developing so rapidly. But they
Speaker 4: all believe we are not baling and seeing our technology
Speaker 4: with what they termed spirituality, which is understanding that we're
Speaker 4: all related. It's we're all a part of creational energy
Speaker 4: and that we need to get along. That's the biggest
Speaker 4: concern these groups that are coming in have with us.
Speaker 4: We don't know how to go along. We're like brats
Speaker 4: in a playground. We're just not doing what we need
Speaker 4: to be doing.
Speaker 2: I hope we're not brats, but you're brat well, some
Speaker 2: of us.
Speaker 4: Are, well, there's According to Billy, in nineteen seventy five,
Speaker 4: there were one hundred and five civilizations watching out over us,
Speaker 4: just examining what we were doing. Some were having contact,
Speaker 4: some were abducting people, but they were there watching what
Speaker 4: was happening here. That's a lot.
Speaker 3: That is a lot of people.
Speaker 2: What does your sense personally on what is happening now
Speaker 2: with the pleads the contact with Billy? Is is there
Speaker 2: any more physical context?
Speaker 4: They do have face to face conversations, but they are
Speaker 4: not supplying any more evidence. There was a pointed time
Speaker 4: where Billy kept saying, I want more photographs and I
Speaker 4: want more movie footage. I want more of this and
Speaker 4: more of that, And they said, how much more do
Speaker 4: you need? Really, you know, you don't need anything else.
Speaker 4: From here on, the conversations will be between us and
Speaker 4: that's all. And that's where they left it. They stopped
Speaker 4: providing physical documentation. They said he had more than enough
Speaker 4: and it was up to, as they say, the earth
Speaker 4: human to realize that it's valid.
Speaker 2: So, you know, it'd be wonderful, it'd be wonderful if
Speaker 2: Billy got a ghostwriter to write a book about what
Speaker 2: is what is being spoken about.
Speaker 3: You know what the.
Speaker 2: Goals are, and we see happening because I know it's
Speaker 2: all about if their spiritual beings, highly evolved beings, it's
Speaker 2: more about we let them do what they need to do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but at some point, don't you think it's important that
Speaker 2: we get the big brother the big sister to say,
Speaker 2: let's help, We need to help you so you don't
Speaker 2: destroy yourself.
Speaker 4: They say that they cannot interfere with us yet, that's
Speaker 4: a direct quote that they cannot interfere with us yet.
Speaker 4: And yet is the key word, because if we get
Speaker 4: to a point where we're ready to destroy the planet
Speaker 4: and ourselves at that point, Billy, we've had conversations with
Speaker 4: him about those he does believe they would step in,
Speaker 4: and that would mean in the case of maybe nuclear war,
Speaker 4: maybe stopping it. In the case of some other means
Speaker 4: of destruction of the planet and the population somehow, just
Speaker 4: stopping that as well.
Speaker 2: But I mean, one of my things about one of
Speaker 2: my disappointments is that I believe that as soon as
Speaker 2: we have this disclosure, this very important disclosure, that we're
Speaker 2: not the only ones we evolve as as a culture.
Speaker 2: I agree, and it's not a simple evolution. It's a
Speaker 2: monstrous change. And I can see why religion and the
Speaker 2: government are kind of like, we're not going to let
Speaker 2: you know about this, We're going to let you guess
Speaker 2: at it, because we don't want this information to be released.
Speaker 2: But at some point it's like it has to be
Speaker 2: released because it's kind of.
Speaker 3: It's part of our.
Speaker 4: Path forward, right, it really is, and it will change
Speaker 4: us drastically. When you get to that point. Is when
Speaker 4: you get into UFOs in the first place, you never
Speaker 4: get out. That's that's the true big black hole. It
Speaker 4: just sucks you in and you're there forever. But it
Speaker 4: starts a curiosity. And when the population gets to the
Speaker 4: point of really being curious and demanding answers, then I
Speaker 4: think things can start changing. Then we're growing to a
Speaker 4: point where we're looking for those answers. But right now
Speaker 4: there's only a portion of us that are out there looking,
Speaker 4: and you've got to be willing to look in order
Speaker 4: to accept. So I think that that's going to be
Speaker 4: a big deal, and I think that time is coming
Speaker 4: when you know, maybe our government won't be the first
Speaker 4: to say, yeah, they're here and they're real. They haven't
Speaker 4: been the first, let's put it that way.
Speaker 3: No, but.
Speaker 4: Like China ten years ago, twenty years ago, they had
Speaker 4: a magazine published by the Chinese government on uf boes
Speaker 4: very open talking about it. You know what goes on
Speaker 4: in Star City and Russia. I mean that work there
Speaker 4: quite amazing.
Speaker 2: I had like a big sighting.
Speaker 3: Is that what that was?
Speaker 4: Star City is where the astronauts trained for Russia, and
Speaker 4: it's they do a lot of psychic work. They do
Speaker 4: a lot of use this work. I talked to Marina
Speaker 4: Popovich about this at link and they're very open to
Speaker 4: communicating with extraterress reels.
Speaker 2: Oh are you saying there's some telepathy going on? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll talk a little bit about This is news to me.
Speaker 4: Oh, and it's they're open about it.
Speaker 3: They're Russia.
Speaker 4: That's much in the public, but they'll talk about it
Speaker 4: to anybody that's curious. So if you broach the conversation,
Speaker 4: you'll probably get an earful. They are actually trying to
Speaker 4: create conversations with extraterrestrials. They use remote viewing like we
Speaker 4: used to to try to determine things. They do what
Speaker 4: doctor Stephen Greer does by going out and trying and
Speaker 4: call them in. Yeah, you know, all these different things,
Speaker 4: but they're doing it on a scientific level. And when
Speaker 4: you do have that science behind you, more people will
Speaker 4: be respectful of the information you present. It's just the
Speaker 4: way our mind works. We're in a thump on it world,
Speaker 4: so we have to have some type of documentation behind it.
Speaker 2: I think you hinted that perhaps another country would be
Speaker 2: the one that would be the would expose us to
Speaker 2: first contact or this disclosure, and I actually see that
Speaker 2: as a possibility. And the Russians have always been very
Speaker 2: open and positive about alien beings. I mean when they
Speaker 2: had this whole Mars Moon phobus and they sent out
Speaker 2: a special satellite the image it, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: the first one focused I got somebody bumped it, you know.
Speaker 2: And the second one there was a shadow of what
Speaker 2: looked like a saucer. That thing lost contact too, So
Speaker 2: they seem to be more and they were like revealing
Speaker 2: this information where in the United States you'd never hear
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 4: There's another place too, and that's Mexico. I've spent a
Speaker 4: lot of time in Mexico stay working with investigators down there,
Speaker 4: talking to pilots, politicians, all of them. They're very open
Speaker 4: to discussing UFOs. Pilots that I spoke to have had
Speaker 4: close encounters literally in the air. One pilot destrut on
Speaker 4: his plane was hit by an object. It broke the
Speaker 4: strut and he barely got back to the airport and landed.
Speaker 4: It was something, and the air traffic controllers report him constantly.
Speaker 4: It's remarkable what's going down there. It began in ninety one.
Speaker 4: We have over ten thousand videos from Mexico of anomalous objects. Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh as they called him. But the Mexican government is
Speaker 4: taking a serious look at this and saying do we
Speaker 4: need to be the first to come out and say yes,
Speaker 4: extraterrestrial life exists. They're actually having that discussion in congress
Speaker 4: in their congress.
Speaker 3: Are they really?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Well, that brings up somebody I wanted to get your
Speaker 2: comments on, and that's Haimi Massan, who I know who
Speaker 2: is very very much involved and active in the UFO community.
Speaker 2: How did we get involved with Billy Meyer? How did
Speaker 2: that happen?
Speaker 4: Oh God, it was so funny. He was given when
Speaker 4: Volume one originally came out, he was given the book.
Speaker 4: He tried to find Lee and I. We were kind
Speaker 4: of hermits still are. It's hard to get to us
Speaker 4: and couldn't find us. And eventually he tracked us down
Speaker 4: through some friends and it was just as the sightings
Speaker 4: began in nineteen ninety one during the eclipse in Mexico
Speaker 4: and he called us and he says, I need you
Speaker 4: guys down here. And at that time he was the
Speaker 4: editor general of sixty Minutes of Mexico. I mean, he
Speaker 4: has quite the background. So we went down and we
Speaker 4: spent a week with them, and we interviewed people, and
Speaker 4: we looked at all the footage and we said, you
Speaker 4: got something happening here. And then we were down there
Speaker 4: about every six months from then on because so much
Speaker 4: was going on. But I've worked with me since then.
Speaker 4: I adore him. He's one of the most credible, wonderful,
Speaker 4: sincere people. And he is a bulldog. If he thinks
Speaker 4: he's got a bow, he's not turning luci it. He
Speaker 4: will dig and dig and dig until he gets to
Speaker 4: the true He's really good. So he got to Meyer
Speaker 4: through our books and the knowledge that we had worked together.
Speaker 2: Has he actually interviewed Billy or he has?
Speaker 4: He has many times from Mexico TV. Part of it
Speaker 4: was put on Mexico TV. Some of it has some
Speaker 4: been released yet. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, amazing.
Speaker 2: The books called UFO Contact from the PLEDs Volumes one
Speaker 2: and two. What makes this a really great book is
Speaker 2: there's two books combined into one. I keep calling it
Speaker 2: at a coffee table book because it's a little bigger
Speaker 2: than wider than normal. But it's because the photos are
Speaker 2: so dynamic, and uh that's I think that was the
Speaker 2: purpose of it. Let's talk about Shirley McClain for a minute.
Speaker 2: She writes the forward. I don't know her that well,
Speaker 2: but we had interactions when she was speaking at various
Speaker 2: conferences in LA I think I might have met her
Speaker 2: in San Francisco late nineties. What is her What is
Speaker 2: her contribution to this?
Speaker 4: Surely, SHARLEYE and I are best friends. She's an absolute
Speaker 4: question machine. And he had called and wanted to go
Speaker 4: to Switzerland to meet Meyer when she was working on
Speaker 4: out on Link writing it, and we said no. We
Speaker 4: just got back and she called back. She says, really,
Speaker 4: I need to talk to him for my book. So
Speaker 4: we took her over there.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: In a week with Meyer, she had a tape recorder
Speaker 4: in his face the whole time, question after question after question.
Speaker 4: She's the most curious person on this planet. I adore
Speaker 4: her mind. She's just so smart and so inquisitive about
Speaker 4: everything once the details and she and Billy just spent
Speaker 4: five days having great conversations, every one of them recorded.
Speaker 4: They got along fine. He was. He's so great because
Speaker 4: he's very earthy and open, and you ask him something
Speaker 4: and if he knows the answer, he'll tell you, and
Speaker 4: if he doesn't, you'll say, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: And it's great. It's wonderful to meet somebody that way.
Speaker 4: But you know, he's had these experiences and still doesn't
Speaker 4: know everything.
Speaker 3: So did she include him in one of her books?
Speaker 4: What she did was she made a composite character, the
Speaker 4: David character, and Out on a Limb is the composite
Speaker 4: of three contactees. The one she goes to Peru whin
Speaker 4: oh right, that he has the experience with Maya. That
Speaker 4: was a composite of three different characters. The information, Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 2: As we conclude, what would you say, Billy is He's
Speaker 2: still interacting occasionally, I guess with some jazzi. But what
Speaker 2: is his feeling in terms of humanity.
Speaker 4: He has hope ask you many times, how do you
Speaker 4: deal with all of the anger and the hatred is
Speaker 4: directed to you? And he says, Britt, it's so simple.
Speaker 4: I just send them love. I can't change their mind.
Speaker 4: They have and that's how he looks at humanity. You
Speaker 4: have to change your own mind. You've got to do
Speaker 4: your own work. You have to find what's really inside yourself,
Speaker 4: and that's what propels you forward.
Speaker 2: People can get this book just came out. It's the
Speaker 2: forty fifth anniversary edition. It's on Amazon. I would imagine
Speaker 2: wherever you get your books is available. How can people
Speaker 2: learn more about you? You have a Facebook page, It's.
Speaker 4: Get a website. You can find out all the things
Speaker 4: I'm doing or have done there and what's going on
Speaker 4: with different things in my life. It's brit br t
Speaker 4: elders e l d e er s dot com.
Speaker 2: And do you have a YouTube channel, Britt? Or is
Speaker 2: it all the video on your website?
Speaker 4: No, the video will be going up on the website.
Speaker 4: We are putting together a YouTube channel for it.
Speaker 2: And very good.
Speaker 4: Right now I will be putting some of it on
Speaker 4: Facebook as well, just so people know what the documentary contains,
Speaker 4: So we're going to put lots of little goodies out there.
Speaker 2: And as a couple of final questions in the annuals
Speaker 2: of ufology, where would you say Billy Meyer fits? He's
Speaker 2: not Betty and Barney Hill. That's a kind of a
Speaker 2: scary abduction scenario. I'm trying to think of Calvin in Mississippi,
Speaker 2: which is also scary, and we don't really know if
Speaker 2: those are aliens, but they look more like cyborgs abducted
Speaker 2: experimented on him. And there's some other cases. We don't
Speaker 2: really hear a lot from outside of the US in
Speaker 2: terms of abduction and experiences because they don't have the
Speaker 2: same reaction as people in.
Speaker 3: The United States.
Speaker 2: That's right, we all see horror. And where are we
Speaker 2: on this in terms of.
Speaker 3: The evolution?
Speaker 4: Well, I think the Mayer case actually happened too early.
Speaker 4: I think the contact with Billy was too soon. I
Speaker 4: don't think people were really ready for it back in
Speaker 4: the seventies. I think they are now. And I think
Speaker 4: bringing this information out, and there's other information coming out
Speaker 4: from other people that have reportedly at plating contexts things
Speaker 4: like that, I think it's opening a door to more positive,
Speaker 4: more nurturing information, and we need that because we need
Speaker 4: to nurture ourselves so we can go out into the
Speaker 4: universe and take a rightful space there.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the same scenario that Billy had
Speaker 2: in Switzerland could be reproduced in the United States. I
Speaker 2: think it would be so quickly covered up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the advantage of being a neutral country, neutral country,
Speaker 2: country farmer out in the middle of nowhere having these
Speaker 2: kind of I mean, I don't know, maybe Wyoming or
Speaker 2: something someone could have contact, but I I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think that's why a lot of these contacts are
Speaker 4: actually happening in South America and in Latin America is
Speaker 4: because of that attitude. It's the indigenous people down there
Speaker 4: are still looking at the skies waiting for their star
Speaker 4: brothers to come in. We don't do that here. We're
Speaker 4: locked in our technology, you know, And there's a big
Speaker 4: difference there. Contexts are happening all over the planet, but
Speaker 4: we're not hearing about them here. We need to get
Speaker 4: more information and into the US because there are wonderful
Speaker 4: things out there that are going on every day and
Speaker 4: no one ever hears about them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 2: The book again UFO Contact from the Plea Thedes Volumes
Speaker 2: one and two, and it's the forty fifth anniversary edition.
Speaker 2: While time really flies, much success spread, much success on
Speaker 2: this and that was a pleasure speaking with you, and
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're still very positive about the phenomenon.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, there's too much there to learn and we can
Speaker 4: all get a little information and go along way with it.
Speaker 2: Wonderful, all right, thanks for joining me.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, Cliff. I love this. This was great.
Speaker 2: We're featuring an incredible opportunity to visit one of the
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Speaker 3: To get over there.
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Speaker 2: of this. It was a highlight talk about the moai.
Speaker 3: There's a number of them, aren't there.
Speaker 6: There are so many moai there it's outrageous. You see
Speaker 6: from coffee table books that there's lines of them, but
Speaker 6: in point of fact, there's over one thousand moi and
Speaker 6: they're spread all over the island. They're where ancient villages
Speaker 6: used to be, so we're gonna go visit a bunch
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Speaker 6: almost all of them were made, and a lot of
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Speaker 3: Fantastic.
Speaker 2: So March fifteenth to the twenty third, that is a week,
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Speaker 2: we might be be getting really close to that. So
Speaker 2: again go to earth Ancients dot com, forward slash tours.
Speaker 3: Thanks Ed, Thank you, Cliff.
Speaker 2: I think you can hear my frustration in that interview
Speaker 2: of really nothing as significant happening since this billion my
Speaker 2: air case. In other words, we haven't had a disclosure
Speaker 2: from our government. We haven't had anything as outstanding as
Speaker 2: a beamship coming and hovering over a farm. Thousands of
Speaker 2: photographs taken, video taken the engines of this craft being
Speaker 2: recorded and really a dissemination of information from an alien
Speaker 2: race off world civilization that is reported to have been
Speaker 2: with us from the beginning and perhaps was part of
Speaker 2: our development creation what they call hybrid program. So and
Speaker 2: this is all you know forty five years ago. What
Speaker 2: has happened since? What is happening now? Why is there
Speaker 2: such a problem with our government, with the various agencies NASA, JPLT,
Speaker 2: Department of Defense, the Pentagon, the American government? Why is
Speaker 2: this being kept secret? And then on top of that,
Speaker 2: rebranding the unidentified flying objects as unidentified aerial phenomena? Why
Speaker 2: why do that? It doesn't make any sense. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of confusion, a lot of problems associated with it.
Speaker 2: I think that they know a lot more. The government
Speaker 2: knows a lot more. The United States government knows a
Speaker 2: lot more than they're leading.
Speaker 3: Us to believe.
Speaker 2: And you know, they haven't figured out a way to
Speaker 2: shoot these craft down because there are hundreds thousands of
Speaker 2: years well, as sim Jossi said from the pld's group,
Speaker 2: three thousand years ahead of US. I mean, that's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: Three thousand years of development ahead of US. I really
Speaker 2: appreciate that. So I hope you enjoyed that interview, tremendously
Speaker 2: fascinated with this. I will mention this also that we
Speaker 2: will be having doctor A. V.
Speaker 3: Loeb on the program before.
Speaker 2: The end of the year. Year And as you remember,
Speaker 2: he was funded to go out and dredge the Pacific
Speaker 2: Ocean's bottom to collect remnants metal scrap of what he
Speaker 2: believes is a probe in advanced et probe that entered
Speaker 2: our atmosphere and burnt up, and they tracked it and
Speaker 2: they believe they found bits and pieces of it, So
Speaker 2: we want.
Speaker 3: To catch up with that.
Speaker 2: And the last I heard from him was they're going
Speaker 2: to go back, and I think they may have already
Speaker 2: done it or they're about to do it. So we'll
Speaker 2: learn shortly when he's on the program. So but you know,
Speaker 2: that's the only disclosure. You know, this really, he's really
Speaker 2: the only disclosure. And it's a little frustrating because these
Speaker 2: UAPs are everywhere, being cited everywhere, and why we don't
Speaker 2: know more is really the big question.
Speaker 3: So that was fun.
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