WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.240 The following program is produced by the tech Talk Radio Network. 2 00:00:03.279 --> 00:00:05.519 Everybody out there in radio, and this is James Young 3 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:08.359 from the rock band Stick. If you are technically challenged, 4 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:10.320 if you've got trouble with that computer yours, because Lord 5 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:13.119 knows I do you need to listen to tech talk Radio. 6 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:17.480 Welcome back to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm 7 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:17.879 Sean de. 8 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:21.399 Weird, I'm Andy Taylor, and the table you are looking 9 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:25.239 at right now on the video for the show is 10 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:29.600 Sean's Hall from gen Con. Yeah, I got. 11 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:33.119 Back Sunday night from gen Con twenty twenty five, right, 12 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:34.560 so there's a little bit of picture of my haull. 13 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:39.039 So I've got some new games, some more Everdell games, 14 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:43.119 Everdel Silverfrost of Everdell Duo, which is a two player version, 15 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:47.560 Twinkle Twinkle which is a constellation building games, Tark Stars 16 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:50.799 in Space of course, Shocker, a game called Galaxy Trucker 17 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:53.799 which is another space game, Dice Tray Some Dice, a 18 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:56.520 Dagger Heart book which I actually had bought before gen 19 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:58.719 Con but got it signed. And then some new D 20 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:02.320 and D five E books from Gooey Cube, which is 21 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:05.159 which is the third party platform for D and D 22 00:01:05.319 --> 00:01:06.760 one of my favorites. I've been following them for a 23 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:08.640 long time and got to participate in their live show 24 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:10.599 this year, which is pretty cool. And then a game 25 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:12.719 called Foxy for a friend of ours who likes Foxes. 26 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:17.719 And then do you remember POGs, Andy. 27 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:20.200 POGs, POGs, POGs, POGs with those Yeah? 28 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:20.439 I do. 29 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:22.640 As a matter of fact, I had a pog with 30 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:25.120 my face on it. It was me and my old 31 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:27.760 morning show partner. They were to hand out these POGs 32 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:30.079 and it was me and Barry on these POGs. I 33 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:31.719 think I still have a few somewhere. 34 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:34.799 So POGs were very popular when I was in grade school, 35 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.560 so this would have been mid nineties, late nineties, right, 36 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:41.640 And one of the games that I play, called Dice 37 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:45.959 THROWNE was t teas like two years ago an April 38 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:50.439 Fool's joke called slam Thrown, a pog version of their 39 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:54.439 game where you have a metal slammer and you slam 40 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.879 down to do damage and stuffing that, And this year 41 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:00.719 at gen Con they're like, no longer in Apris Fool's joke. 42 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:01.920 Here it is, you can buy it. 43 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:04.280 They actually came out with the game all right. For 44 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:06.359 our listeners that have tuned in Now, last year we 45 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:08.719 talked about gen Con, and you should talked. 46 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:10.560 About gen Con. Since I've been on the show, I've 47 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:11.560 gone the last ten. 48 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:14.199 Years, So tell us about every year where it's at 49 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:15.680 and you know what it's all about. 50 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:18.759 So gen Con is kind of is dubbed as the 51 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:24.120 best four days in gaming. It's a tabletop RPG, fantasy 52 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:27.680 card game, tabletop RPG, you know, whatever you name it anything, 53 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:32.319 board game related, tabletop gaming convention. It's held in Indianapolis 54 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.840 at the Indianapolis Convention Center. It takes over the Convention 55 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:37.919 Center and it takes over Lucas Oil Stadium. 56 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:41.400 Would you say, Sean with so many devices, with so 57 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:46.000 many announcements, you know, consoles switched to the whole bit? 58 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:50.919 Is desktop gaming as far as playing on a tabletop 59 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:54.840 you know, like Dungeons of Dragons Traveler that type, is 60 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:55.759 that still popular? 61 00:02:57.039 --> 00:03:03.159 So it hasn't broke through into this convention as big 62 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:05.479 as you think it was, as big as you think 63 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:08.719 it would. There are some parts of it that there 64 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:11.120 are some people who bring in, like some computer based 65 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:15.759 RPG games or some computer based role playing games. So 66 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:18.400 like some states, some people had some space games where 67 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.000 everybody sated a computer and did a different part of 68 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.240 the ship and involved they did like a role playing 69 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:25.840 scenario where you flew through the flu ship and stuff 70 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:28.520 like that. But as far as like video games and 71 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:30.599 things like that, not here, not a gen gun. 72 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:33.080 Really, it's just board. 73 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:36.520 Games, card games, tabletops, RPGs, fantasy games. 74 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:39.840 So there's still a lot of people. There's still a 75 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:43.280 lot of people playing these type of games versus you know, 76 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:46.840 plug you know, using something on a screen. They're using 77 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:48.360 their creativity more than. 78 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:52.840 You would think to be honest, and it's it's very popular. 79 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:56.800 And there are a lot of familiar titles that have 80 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:01.560 popular ips like Marvel and and Spider Man, and you know, 81 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:03.759 you got to get into a lot of those ips 82 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:05.800 that have a lot. But then there's also games that 83 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:08.080 they just have their own ips. There's their own, they're 84 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.039 their own, like Everdell has. There's about a dozen games 85 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:12.479 in the Everdell series. 86 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:13.240 Right, I own. 87 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:15.520 I own the complete collection, plus the two new ones 88 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:18.879 they just came out. Yeah, I'm just a bit. I 89 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:21.720 have a lot of boarder games, as indicated by that 90 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:24.079 picture that's just by my table. You can see the 91 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:24.800 shelf off that here. 92 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:26.560 I'll put it back up yeah, let's see that kind 93 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:28.120 of see get that when you went after the. 94 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.399 Right there's a there's an Ikea shelf over there that 95 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:33.560 is full. It's a it's a six by six shelf. 96 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:35.639 It's full of boarder games. Right, And you can see 97 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:37.879 more more board games on the back wall, more more 98 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:39.720 magic cards on the left side. I've got a whole 99 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:41.639 room in my basement dedicated to this stuff. 100 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:43.920 So now, how long, like you're playing one of these 101 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.439 games for our listeners that maybe have never thought, hey, 102 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.000 this might be fun to do with, you know, the kids, 103 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.879 or maybe you know with a group of friends. You know, 104 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:54.199 how long can one of these games last? I mean, 105 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:56.279 so you start a game, can you have it go 106 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:58.480 a couple hours? Or can they That's the. 107 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:00.439 That's that's the beauty about board game, right. You can 108 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:02.759 find your niche. You can find the game that takes 109 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:04.720 five six hours to play if you really wanted to. 110 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:08.360 But a lot of the games are dialed into like 111 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.800 thirty to forty minutes, an hour, hour and a half. 112 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:14.800 It all depends on the technique that you know. Some 113 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:17.839 people like complicated games, some people like fast paced games. 114 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:20.680 Some people like turn based games. Some people like cooperative 115 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:23.279 games some people like you versus the games. Everybody has 116 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:26.360 their own version of what they want to play, like 117 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:28.839 the style that they're their gameplay, what they like. So 118 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:30.879 there's tons of games for everybody. Not all the games. 119 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:32.480 Not all games are for everybody. There are games that 120 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:34.800 I don't like playing because it's not my style. But 121 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:38.560 I have a pretty wide variety of pretty wide range 122 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:40.560 because I just like games in general. But yeah, I 123 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:43.480 would say my favorite is like high Fantasy turn based. 124 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:46.000 Is there one one game, like, say, at gen Con, 125 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:48.839 you know, you look at well comic Con, everybody's talking 126 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:51.839 about the movies, They're talking about the comics, they're talking 127 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:55.720 about TV shows, streaming stuff. I mean, George Lucas made 128 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.000 an appearance at San Diego Comic Con, and it was 129 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:01.519 like everybody wanted to talk about this because you know, 130 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:05.439 he's got such a huge fan base. At gen Con, 131 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:08.680 is there one game that everybody was talking about that 132 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:10.920 they said, you've got to try this. It's big? And 133 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:12.720 is there one developer bigger than the others? 134 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:16.199 Oh Man, there's so many big developers. I would say 135 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:20.439 probably the biggest one this year was another tabletop RPG 136 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:22.759 called Dagger Heart, which we've talked about on the show 137 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:24.680 before because I got into the open beta a couple 138 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:27.480 of months ago. They actually have a full production release. 139 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:29.759 And we've talked about Critical Role on the show before. 140 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:35.120 So the publisher called Darrington Press is who Critical Role 141 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:38.399 Stouter started. They started the publishing company called Darrington Press 142 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:42.120 and they released their own Dice based ARPG system called 143 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:46.600 dagger Heart. So that is big. It's fully released now 144 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:52.240 and they're already talking about future pieces, expansions, character updates, 145 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:54.600 et cetera. And we actually went to a live show 146 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:58.439 in Fisher's, Indiana, which is just north of Indianapolis. It 147 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:01.600 was a live play through of dagger Heart with the 148 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:02.680 Critical Role cast. 149 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:03.839 Oh wow. 150 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.240 And they announced that they announced their new campaign, which 151 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:10.879 is a campaign four. It's rumored to be in the 152 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:13.079 dagger Heart series. They've been playing D and D five 153 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:18.279 E for the last three campaigns, but it's very highly 154 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:21.079 rumored and most likely going to be Daggerhart. So it's 155 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:23.120 a whole new like, it's a whole new system that 156 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.480 is competing with Dungeons and Dragons at this point. 157 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.240 So well, it's kind of cool because I know that 158 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.560 it was probably a few months ago. I went to 159 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:34.839 a shopping center just outside of Marana, and it's an 160 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:37.279 outdoor shopping center and I've been trying to remember the 161 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:40.480 name of it, but they had a store in there 162 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:45.240 dedicated to what we're talking about, the games, the books, 163 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:49.439 the board games, and they do very well and there 164 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:50.920 was a lot of people that play them and a 165 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:53.079 lot of us. You know, maybe we're so wrapped up 166 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:55.519 in our words, our world. I remember my mom and 167 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:57.800 dad used to play bridge and poker with their friends 168 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:00.600 when they would come over and visit on a Saturday. 169 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:03.120 But this is something that maybe a younger said, is 170 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:06.680 getting to Is it geared the male audience or females? 171 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:08.319 Do they get involved in it as well? 172 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:12.839 It is the entire spectrum. Everybody has loved to gen 173 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:15.639 Con like it's a big part of their identity. Is 174 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:21.279 everybody's welcome. Harassments not welcome here, everybody. You get kids 175 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:24.279 all the way, I mean everybody. There's games catered to everybody. 176 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:29.560 There's games catered to specific identities, there's games just everybody. 177 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:33.639 Now. I remember I used to play Traveler and that 178 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:36.600 was for our devices, so it was a lot of fun. 179 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:38.360 It was you know, a role playing your roll the 180 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:41.159 dice and then it was fun. I remember that this 181 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:44.399 is many many years ago. Now I'm wondering, though, have 182 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:48.399 we seen a kind of emerging of the board games 183 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.399 with technology, so like somebody might need your smartphone for 184 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.480 a certain piece of that. And of course, if they 185 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:57.159 do add ons like you had mentioned, maybe a brand 186 00:08:57.200 --> 00:08:59.440 new series. These games aren't just you open the ball 187 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:01.480 like scrabble. You open the box, you play it, and 188 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:06.519 then you're done. You could have different adventures or different scenarios, right. 189 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:12.919 Yeah, So there are usually expansions for games, and a 190 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:15.639 big thing for me for a lot of games is replayability, 191 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:19.679 so being able to play a game and come back 192 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:22.639 to it and have a different experience. Right, So you 193 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:24.840 play it once with your friends, you have a completely 194 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:27.960 different outcome. You play it the next time with a 195 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.440 different group, completely different outcome because it's all based on 196 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.159 random number generation and dice rolling and things like that. 197 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:39.320 So there's not a lot of games. There's a lot 198 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.759 of game popular games that have digital versions. Ticket to Ride, 199 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:46.559 Cotan Dice Don't's coming out with a digital version. There 200 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:48.720 are ways to play these games online, right. 201 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:49.919 How about battlefield sir? 202 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:55.639 So you want to talk about space based or military 203 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.440 based games. You're starting to get into things like Warhammer 204 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:02.840 and uh you know other other miniature based games like 205 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:07.960 that Warhammered, uh Stars, uh Star Wars, uh Legion, a 206 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.279 couple other like miniature based dice rolling, tactical turn by 207 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:13.240 turn based games, and there's a ton there's a ton 208 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.519 of that stuff too. So gen Con has everything. Man, 209 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:17.559 I'm telling you, if if you're into if you're into 210 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:20.559 anything related to board games, or maybe if you think like, 211 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:22.759 oh my board games, stop at Monopoly, Like there's a 212 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:23.919 whole new world out there for you. 213 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.759 Kind of think that last year when you had gone, 214 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:31.120 you had sent some photos. There's cosplay that happens, So 215 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.399 there are people that really get into it and they 216 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:35.879 dress up in costumes. Did you see a lot of that. 217 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:41.519 Uh yeah, yeah, So there's a lot. And like again, 218 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:44.039 it's it's across. There's so many genres, so it's not 219 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:47.600 like you're going to something that's just a specific ip, right, 220 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:49.279 So you have people that are dress up as characters 221 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:50.600 you may have never even heard of, but it's from 222 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:53.519 their favorite series or favorite game. And we went to 223 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:56.720 the Critical Role Live Show, and the Critical Role Live 224 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:59.960 Show is just a whole different sub sect of the community, 225 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:02.799 right right, it's a lot of creative people. The costplay 226 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:05.840 there was so much better than costplay I've seen other 227 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.759 places because they're so dedicated. They're so focused on one 228 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.159 ip and you just saw characters from that series and 229 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:16.240 there's a whole. There's a whole. They do a parade 230 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:19.080 through the convention center with all the costplay and then 231 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:20.919 they do a contest too, so you can go in 232 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.840 and watch the contest and you can win prizes and 233 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:27.519 stuff like that for best best dress and all that stuff. 234 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:30.320 That's pretty cool. Now, do you have a favorite? You know, 235 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:32.159 for our listeners that are thinking, well, I'm gonna go 236 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.399 check out this store in Morana or they want to 237 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:36.639 go online and maybe order one of these, Do you 238 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:38.679 have a favorite that maybe somebody who wants to get 239 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.879 into this or try it. What would be a game 240 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:43.759 that they they should start with? And what is your favorite? 241 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:44.200 Right now? 242 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:48.639 Oh man, that is a loaded, loaded question, right It's 243 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:51.799 because it's it's it's you have everybody's different, right, So 244 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:54.519 I will tell everybody to try a game at least once, 245 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:56.080 because because you might find that you like it. You 246 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.480 might find that, you know, if you're interested in board games. 247 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.440 I would tell you dice th Own is one to 248 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:04.759 get into pretty quick if you like dice rolling games. 249 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:08.200 A little bit of tactical uh, player versus player player verse, 250 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:11.639 the environment, player versus the game. They have a Marvel set, 251 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:13.360 they have an x Men set, they have their own 252 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.879 eye characters in the series. I have a ton of that. 253 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:21.639 That one's fun. The Everdell series is a fantasy worker 254 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:23.879 placement game where you collec resources and try and build 255 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.879 your own little world, your own little town inside Everdell, 256 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:30.320 and compete for resources against other players. They make a 257 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:32.679 version of that called My Little Everdell, which is like 258 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:38.360 for ages six and up. Really so, but if you're 259 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.440 interested in learning the Everdell series, like the core mechanics 260 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:44.679 of Everdell, that's your go to. I bought it two 261 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.240 years of gen Con because I had never played Everdell. 262 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:49.080 I have a friend who's obsessed with it. She told me, 263 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:51.279 if you want to learn how to play Everdell by this, 264 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:53.759 you're gonna love it. Bought it at gen Con. My 265 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:55.919 friend Steve and I figured out how to play it, 266 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:59.159 and I was like, this game is awesome. Last last 267 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:02.039 year I bought the whole complete collection of Everdell, which 268 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:06.519 was like eight games within the whole box. You remember 269 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:07.559 I showed you that big box. 270 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:09.200 That was a huge, huge box. 271 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:12.440 That huge box it has like it has all the 272 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:16.039 Everdel games in it, plus the expansions in the Collector's 273 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.200 editions of all the games too. So then they added 274 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.960 a new version of Everdell this past year called Silver Frost, 275 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:25.799 which I bought and then got. I got to meet 276 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:28.639 and talk with the husband and wife who developed Everdell, 277 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:32.399 and they signed the player guide for me and signed 278 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:35.559 the inside of the box. And then Caitlin when she 279 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:37.440 came down because she came with me for one day 280 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.279 this year, she saw an Everdell Duo, which is a 281 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:44.240 just a one v one you play against the other person. 282 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.200 It's based the same core mechanics, but you're fighting just 283 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.200 it's just one on one. It's not four player, it's 284 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:54.840 just a two player version of Everdel. But there's so 285 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:56.679 many good games. I mean, I don't know where to start. 286 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.960 But if you want party games, I liked, I like, 287 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:00.519 I have a lot of party games. So there's like 288 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:07.080 a game called Sushi Go. It's it sounds it sounds funny, 289 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:10.519 it's a game where it's a game where you try 290 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.919 and collect different types of sushi. And it's a party game, 291 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.919 so you could be two to eight players, so you 292 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:19.120 can have eight players at the same time fighting for sushi. 293 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:22.720 It's really incredibly fun. Oh god, there's so many good 294 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:24.159 games Andy, I don't even know where to start. 295 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.120 It's mainly jen Con is mainly adventure games. You're not 296 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:32.039 gonna find games like Cards against Humanity, which a few 297 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:32.639 years ago. 298 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:37.080 But you'll find Yeah, you'll find Card against Humanity. You'll 299 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:38.919 find all sorts of those kinds of games. You'll find 300 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:42.240 anything tabletop related this year, so you'll find Card against 301 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:46.720 the Humanity. You'll find the really kind of crude and 302 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:50.759 humorous ones like Joking Hazard Uh. If you're familiar with 303 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:54.440 the comic Cyanide and Happiness, Yes online they have. They 304 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.320 created a card game a handful of years ago. They 305 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:59.240 actually created several Trial by Trolley, which is another really 306 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:02.559 fun one. There's so many good games, like I could 307 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:04.320 just show you my shelf and tell you why these 308 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:07.440 games are all good. Right, But then there's table there's 309 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.639 RPG's right, so you've got Dungeons and Dragons, Dagger Heart, 310 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:16.120 Call of Cthulhu Eat the Reich. I mean, there's so 311 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:19.120 many good RPG games that are out there that I 312 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:22.360 don't even know about because I wasn't super into other art, 313 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.240 tabletop barbieges besides D and D for a long time. 314 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:28.279 Now, if you've never been, uh, you've never played D 315 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.679 and D, right, and the actual Dungeons and Dragons, is 316 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:34.679 that something you know? I don't want to call it newbies, 317 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.600 but is that something that they can get into pretty 318 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:39.600 easily with a small girl friends. 319 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.240 So, Dungeons and Dragons has been around for a long time. 320 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:47.120 In twenty fifteen, I think twenty fifteen, they announced a 321 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:48.919 new version of Dungeons and Dragons, right, because you had 322 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:53.000 D and D three point five, then Dungeons Dragons four 323 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:56.879 E which came out, and then they announced it was 324 00:15:56.879 --> 00:15:59.159 originally called D and D Next, but then they called 325 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:04.200 it five E, fifth editionion and it kind of became 326 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.039 a very rudimentary way to get people involved. It was 327 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.320 a simpler set of rules, condensed everything. They started making 328 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:14.080 these starter kits, starter boxes that were one shot modules, 329 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.679 pre generated character sheets, things that made it really easy 330 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:18.600 to get into D and D without having a D 331 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:23.960 and D knowledge. Also spurned by stranger things. Right things 332 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:25.600 came out. They were playing D and D in the 333 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:27.480 show that you saw a big You saw a big 334 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:31.840 uprising in popularity from that show. Plus you started seeing 335 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:34.960 a trend where you had a lot of podcasters coming 336 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:39.240 in doing play a live place. So you had critical 337 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:42.240 role coming in around twenty fifteen doing D and D 338 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:45.519 five E coming from Pathfinder, which is another tabletop version, 339 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:49.120 another D and D style version of a game called Pathfinder. 340 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.279 Different rules set, different rules, its own core world, its 341 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.639 own system. Then five E became very popular. Now there 342 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:59.639 are more podcasts than you can count on. Dungeons Dragons 343 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.320 now slowly turning into a little bit more dagger Heart 344 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:04.680 because Daggerhart just came out. It's a little bit more popular. 345 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:09.279 I think it's incredible. It's an incredible system. I think 346 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.079 Daggerheart's a little bit more user friendly for new players. 347 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:15.240 So I think I said this about D and D. 348 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:17.359 I know Matt plays D and D. I know Justin's 349 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.200 maybe played once or twice, maybe you played a handful 350 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.759 of years ago, back in the day. I would like 351 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:25.880 to do a tech talk radio one shot I got 352 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:28.720 to it, I would run it. You me, Matt and 353 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:33.119 you me, Matt and Justin, and I think it'd be incredible. 354 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:34.720 That would be a blast. 355 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.079 But I think with Daggerhart. I think with dagger Heart 356 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:38.440 we'd be able to just drop in and do it. 357 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:40.319 I think it it'd be fun to do one in 358 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:42.759 five E and one in Daggerhart and then compare for 359 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:46.640 new players the systems. But yeah, I mean there's so 360 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:49.720 many good, good shows. And what I like about gen 361 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.240 Con is that you get to go and meet the 362 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:55.119 people that make these games, because they like playing games 363 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:55.839 just as much as you do. 364 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:57.359 That's why they created it. Yeah. 365 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:00.680 Yeah. And then there's one group that I picked up 366 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:04.559 a version of one of their games called The Darkest Dream, 367 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:06.400 which was a it's a module for five E. So 368 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:10.200 it's a book maps character, background story, you know, world 369 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:13.319 and building, and it was incredible. It was called Gooey 370 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:16.880 Gouey Cube. They're based out of Colorado, right met them there, 371 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:19.279 loved their books. They you know, they said, hey, come 372 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:21.640 check out our little show that we do. We're doing 373 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:24.079 this little like game show style. We're going to bring 374 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:25.960 in some D and D celebrities. We're gonna have them 375 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:28.319 play our game for a little bit and maybe give 376 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:31.279 some prizes away. That was like six years ago and 377 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:35.039 now they're probably one of the biggest five E publishers 378 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:38.799 third party publishers that exist. Wow, and their game show 379 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:42.079 sales out every year and I did it this year, 380 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:46.559 and they they have five players. They have four players 381 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:50.240 that play the game show. This year they picked team captains. 382 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.559 I was the team captain for one of the one 383 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:55.319 of the players, so I got to help pick because 384 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:57.200 they get the audience involved, and the audience can buy 385 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:00.240 power ups and and buy rewards and stuff, and it 386 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:01.880 was incredible I got to do that. We ended up 387 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:05.480 not winning as but it was incredibly fun and I 388 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:07.720 ended up getting some some a gift card for their store, 389 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:10.119 which I went and properly spent more than what I 390 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:11.599 probably should have at their store. 391 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:14.880 Yeah, is this an expensive hobby to get into? 392 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:22.440 Yes, it can be, right, it doesn't have to be 393 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:25.480 because you can buy board games. And I think if 394 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:29.839 you go and look go to Target, Target, really Walmart wherever, 395 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:34.759 and go to their gaming section fifteen years ago, you 396 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:38.640 never would have seen a majority of the titles that 397 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:43.359 are on the shelves. You would have seen Uno, Monopoly Life. Sorry, right, 398 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:50.200 trouble you know to your typical fahaha, fun Funwer family Games, 399 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:53.799 candy Land, Shoots, the Letders, whatever. You are seeing a 400 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:58.240 majority a lot of these titles at these retailers because 401 00:19:58.279 --> 00:20:01.160