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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm
Speaker 2: Sean de.
Speaker 1: Weird, I'm Andy Taylor, and the table you are looking
Speaker 1: at right now on the video for the show is
Speaker 1: Sean's Hall from gen Con. Yeah, I got.
Speaker 2: Back Sunday night from gen Con twenty twenty five, right,
Speaker 2: so there's a little bit of picture of my haull.
Speaker 2: So I've got some new games, some more Everdell games,
Speaker 2: Everdel Silverfrost of Everdell Duo, which is a two player version,
Speaker 2: Twinkle Twinkle which is a constellation building games, Tark Stars
Speaker 2: in Space of course, Shocker, a game called Galaxy Trucker
Speaker 2: which is another space game, Dice Tray Some Dice, a
Speaker 2: Dagger Heart book which I actually had bought before gen
Speaker 2: Con but got it signed. And then some new D
Speaker 2: and D five E books from Gooey Cube, which is
Speaker 2: which is the third party platform for D and D
Speaker 2: one of my favorites. I've been following them for a
Speaker 2: long time and got to participate in their live show
Speaker 2: this year, which is pretty cool. And then a game
Speaker 2: called Foxy for a friend of ours who likes Foxes.
Speaker 2: And then do you remember POGs, Andy.
Speaker 1: POGs, POGs, POGs, POGs with those Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I had a pog with
Speaker 1: my face on it. It was me and my old
Speaker 1: morning show partner. They were to hand out these POGs
Speaker 1: and it was me and Barry on these POGs. I
Speaker 1: think I still have a few somewhere.
Speaker 2: So POGs were very popular when I was in grade school,
Speaker 2: so this would have been mid nineties, late nineties, right,
Speaker 2: And one of the games that I play, called Dice
Speaker 2: THROWNE was t teas like two years ago an April
Speaker 2: Fool's joke called slam Thrown, a pog version of their
Speaker 2: game where you have a metal slammer and you slam
Speaker 2: down to do damage and stuffing that, And this year
Speaker 2: at gen Con they're like, no longer in Apris Fool's joke.
Speaker 2: Here it is, you can buy it.
Speaker 1: They actually came out with the game all right. For
Speaker 1: our listeners that have tuned in Now, last year we
Speaker 1: talked about gen Con, and you should talked.
Speaker 2: About gen Con. Since I've been on the show, I've
Speaker 2: gone the last ten.
Speaker 1: Years, So tell us about every year where it's at
Speaker 1: and you know what it's all about.
Speaker 2: So gen Con is kind of is dubbed as the
Speaker 2: best four days in gaming. It's a tabletop RPG, fantasy
Speaker 2: card game, tabletop RPG, you know, whatever you name it anything,
Speaker 2: board game related, tabletop gaming convention. It's held in Indianapolis
Speaker 2: at the Indianapolis Convention Center. It takes over the Convention
Speaker 2: Center and it takes over Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 1: Would you say, Sean with so many devices, with so
Speaker 1: many announcements, you know, consoles switched to the whole bit?
Speaker 1: Is desktop gaming as far as playing on a tabletop
Speaker 1: you know, like Dungeons of Dragons Traveler that type, is
Speaker 1: that still popular?
Speaker 2: So it hasn't broke through into this convention as big
Speaker 2: as you think it was, as big as you think
Speaker 2: it would. There are some parts of it that there
Speaker 2: are some people who bring in, like some computer based
Speaker 2: RPG games or some computer based role playing games. So
Speaker 2: like some states, some people had some space games where
Speaker 2: everybody sated a computer and did a different part of
Speaker 2: the ship and involved they did like a role playing
Speaker 2: scenario where you flew through the flu ship and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. But as far as like video games and
Speaker 2: things like that, not here, not a gen gun.
Speaker 1: Really, it's just board.
Speaker 2: Games, card games, tabletops, RPGs, fantasy games.
Speaker 1: So there's still a lot of people. There's still a
Speaker 1: lot of people playing these type of games versus you know,
Speaker 1: plug you know, using something on a screen. They're using
Speaker 1: their creativity more than.
Speaker 2: You would think to be honest, and it's it's very popular.
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of familiar titles that have
Speaker 2: popular ips like Marvel and and Spider Man, and you know,
Speaker 2: you got to get into a lot of those ips
Speaker 2: that have a lot. But then there's also games that
Speaker 2: they just have their own ips. There's their own, they're
Speaker 2: their own, like Everdell has. There's about a dozen games
Speaker 2: in the Everdell series.
Speaker 1: Right, I own.
Speaker 2: I own the complete collection, plus the two new ones
Speaker 2: they just came out. Yeah, I'm just a bit. I
Speaker 2: have a lot of boarder games, as indicated by that
Speaker 2: picture that's just by my table. You can see the
Speaker 2: shelf off that here.
Speaker 1: I'll put it back up yeah, let's see that kind
Speaker 1: of see get that when you went after the.
Speaker 2: Right there's a there's an Ikea shelf over there that
Speaker 2: is full. It's a it's a six by six shelf.
Speaker 2: It's full of boarder games. Right, And you can see
Speaker 2: more more board games on the back wall, more more
Speaker 2: magic cards on the left side. I've got a whole
Speaker 2: room in my basement dedicated to this stuff.
Speaker 1: So now, how long, like you're playing one of these
Speaker 1: games for our listeners that maybe have never thought, hey,
Speaker 1: this might be fun to do with, you know, the kids,
Speaker 1: or maybe you know with a group of friends. You know,
Speaker 1: how long can one of these games last? I mean,
Speaker 1: so you start a game, can you have it go
Speaker 1: a couple hours? Or can they That's the.
Speaker 2: That's that's the beauty about board game, right. You can
Speaker 2: find your niche. You can find the game that takes
Speaker 2: five six hours to play if you really wanted to.
Speaker 2: But a lot of the games are dialed into like
Speaker 2: thirty to forty minutes, an hour, hour and a half.
Speaker 2: It all depends on the technique that you know. Some
Speaker 2: people like complicated games, some people like fast paced games.
Speaker 2: Some people like turn based games. Some people like cooperative
Speaker 2: games some people like you versus the games. Everybody has
Speaker 2: their own version of what they want to play, like
Speaker 2: the style that they're their gameplay, what they like. So
Speaker 2: there's tons of games for everybody. Not all the games.
Speaker 2: Not all games are for everybody. There are games that
Speaker 2: I don't like playing because it's not my style. But
Speaker 2: I have a pretty wide variety of pretty wide range
Speaker 2: because I just like games in general. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: would say my favorite is like high Fantasy turn based.
Speaker 1: Is there one one game, like, say, at gen Con,
Speaker 1: you know, you look at well comic Con, everybody's talking
Speaker 1: about the movies, They're talking about the comics, they're talking
Speaker 1: about TV shows, streaming stuff. I mean, George Lucas made
Speaker 1: an appearance at San Diego Comic Con, and it was
Speaker 1: like everybody wanted to talk about this because you know,
Speaker 1: he's got such a huge fan base. At gen Con,
Speaker 1: is there one game that everybody was talking about that
Speaker 1: they said, you've got to try this. It's big? And
Speaker 1: is there one developer bigger than the others?
Speaker 2: Oh Man, there's so many big developers. I would say
Speaker 2: probably the biggest one this year was another tabletop RPG
Speaker 2: called Dagger Heart, which we've talked about on the show
Speaker 2: before because I got into the open beta a couple
Speaker 2: of months ago. They actually have a full production release.
Speaker 2: And we've talked about Critical Role on the show before.
Speaker 2: So the publisher called Darrington Press is who Critical Role
Speaker 2: Stouter started. They started the publishing company called Darrington Press
Speaker 2: and they released their own Dice based ARPG system called
Speaker 2: dagger Heart. So that is big. It's fully released now
Speaker 2: and they're already talking about future pieces, expansions, character updates,
Speaker 2: et cetera. And we actually went to a live show
Speaker 2: in Fisher's, Indiana, which is just north of Indianapolis. It
Speaker 2: was a live play through of dagger Heart with the
Speaker 2: Critical Role cast.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: And they announced that they announced their new campaign, which
Speaker 2: is a campaign four. It's rumored to be in the
Speaker 2: dagger Heart series. They've been playing D and D five
Speaker 2: E for the last three campaigns, but it's very highly
Speaker 2: rumored and most likely going to be Daggerhart. So it's
Speaker 2: a whole new like, it's a whole new system that
Speaker 2: is competing with Dungeons and Dragons at this point.
Speaker 1: So well, it's kind of cool because I know that
Speaker 1: it was probably a few months ago. I went to
Speaker 1: a shopping center just outside of Marana, and it's an
Speaker 1: outdoor shopping center and I've been trying to remember the
Speaker 1: name of it, but they had a store in there
Speaker 1: dedicated to what we're talking about, the games, the books,
Speaker 1: the board games, and they do very well and there
Speaker 1: was a lot of people that play them and a
Speaker 1: lot of us. You know, maybe we're so wrapped up
Speaker 1: in our words, our world. I remember my mom and
Speaker 1: dad used to play bridge and poker with their friends
Speaker 1: when they would come over and visit on a Saturday.
Speaker 1: But this is something that maybe a younger said, is
Speaker 1: getting to Is it geared the male audience or females?
Speaker 1: Do they get involved in it as well?
Speaker 2: It is the entire spectrum. Everybody has loved to gen
Speaker 2: Con like it's a big part of their identity. Is
Speaker 2: everybody's welcome. Harassments not welcome here, everybody. You get kids
Speaker 2: all the way, I mean everybody. There's games catered to everybody.
Speaker 2: There's games catered to specific identities, there's games just everybody.
Speaker 1: Now. I remember I used to play Traveler and that
Speaker 1: was for our devices, so it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: It was you know, a role playing your roll the
Speaker 1: dice and then it was fun. I remember that this
Speaker 1: is many many years ago. Now I'm wondering, though, have
Speaker 1: we seen a kind of emerging of the board games
Speaker 1: with technology, so like somebody might need your smartphone for
Speaker 1: a certain piece of that. And of course, if they
Speaker 1: do add ons like you had mentioned, maybe a brand
Speaker 1: new series. These games aren't just you open the ball
Speaker 1: like scrabble. You open the box, you play it, and
Speaker 1: then you're done. You could have different adventures or different scenarios, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there are usually expansions for games, and a
Speaker 2: big thing for me for a lot of games is replayability,
Speaker 2: so being able to play a game and come back
Speaker 2: to it and have a different experience. Right, So you
Speaker 2: play it once with your friends, you have a completely
Speaker 2: different outcome. You play it the next time with a
Speaker 2: different group, completely different outcome because it's all based on
Speaker 2: random number generation and dice rolling and things like that.
Speaker 2: So there's not a lot of games. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of game popular games that have digital versions. Ticket to Ride,
Speaker 2: Cotan Dice Don't's coming out with a digital version. There
Speaker 2: are ways to play these games online, right.
Speaker 1: How about battlefield sir?
Speaker 2: So you want to talk about space based or military
Speaker 2: based games. You're starting to get into things like Warhammer
Speaker 2: and uh you know other other miniature based games like
Speaker 2: that Warhammered, uh Stars, uh Star Wars, uh Legion, a
Speaker 2: couple other like miniature based dice rolling, tactical turn by
Speaker 2: turn based games, and there's a ton there's a ton
Speaker 2: of that stuff too. So gen Con has everything. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if if you're into if you're into
Speaker 2: anything related to board games, or maybe if you think like,
Speaker 2: oh my board games, stop at Monopoly, Like there's a
Speaker 2: whole new world out there for you.
Speaker 1: Kind of think that last year when you had gone,
Speaker 1: you had sent some photos. There's cosplay that happens, So
Speaker 1: there are people that really get into it and they
Speaker 1: dress up in costumes. Did you see a lot of that.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, So there's a lot. And like again,
Speaker 2: it's it's across. There's so many genres, so it's not
Speaker 2: like you're going to something that's just a specific ip, right,
Speaker 2: So you have people that are dress up as characters
Speaker 2: you may have never even heard of, but it's from
Speaker 2: their favorite series or favorite game. And we went to
Speaker 2: the Critical Role Live Show, and the Critical Role Live
Speaker 2: Show is just a whole different sub sect of the community,
Speaker 2: right right, it's a lot of creative people. The costplay
Speaker 2: there was so much better than costplay I've seen other
Speaker 2: places because they're so dedicated. They're so focused on one
Speaker 2: ip and you just saw characters from that series and
Speaker 2: there's a whole. There's a whole. They do a parade
Speaker 2: through the convention center with all the costplay and then
Speaker 2: they do a contest too, so you can go in
Speaker 2: and watch the contest and you can win prizes and
Speaker 2: stuff like that for best best dress and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Now, do you have a favorite? You know,
Speaker 1: for our listeners that are thinking, well, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: check out this store in Morana or they want to
Speaker 1: go online and maybe order one of these, Do you
Speaker 1: have a favorite that maybe somebody who wants to get
Speaker 1: into this or try it. What would be a game
Speaker 1: that they they should start with? And what is your favorite?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 2: Oh man, that is a loaded, loaded question, right It's
Speaker 2: because it's it's it's you have everybody's different, right, So
Speaker 2: I will tell everybody to try a game at least once,
Speaker 2: because because you might find that you like it. You
Speaker 2: might find that, you know, if you're interested in board games.
Speaker 2: I would tell you dice th Own is one to
Speaker 2: get into pretty quick if you like dice rolling games.
Speaker 2: A little bit of tactical uh, player versus player player verse,
Speaker 2: the environment, player versus the game. They have a Marvel set,
Speaker 2: they have an x Men set, they have their own
Speaker 2: eye characters in the series. I have a ton of that.
Speaker 2: That one's fun. The Everdell series is a fantasy worker
Speaker 2: placement game where you collec resources and try and build
Speaker 2: your own little world, your own little town inside Everdell,
Speaker 2: and compete for resources against other players. They make a
Speaker 2: version of that called My Little Everdell, which is like
Speaker 2: for ages six and up. Really so, but if you're
Speaker 2: interested in learning the Everdell series, like the core mechanics
Speaker 2: of Everdell, that's your go to. I bought it two
Speaker 2: years of gen Con because I had never played Everdell.
Speaker 2: I have a friend who's obsessed with it. She told me,
Speaker 2: if you want to learn how to play Everdell by this,
Speaker 2: you're gonna love it. Bought it at gen Con. My
Speaker 2: friend Steve and I figured out how to play it,
Speaker 2: and I was like, this game is awesome. Last last
Speaker 2: year I bought the whole complete collection of Everdell, which
Speaker 2: was like eight games within the whole box. You remember
Speaker 2: I showed you that big box.
Speaker 1: That was a huge, huge box.
Speaker 2: That huge box it has like it has all the
Speaker 2: Everdel games in it, plus the expansions in the Collector's
Speaker 2: editions of all the games too. So then they added
Speaker 2: a new version of Everdell this past year called Silver Frost,
Speaker 2: which I bought and then got. I got to meet
Speaker 2: and talk with the husband and wife who developed Everdell,
Speaker 2: and they signed the player guide for me and signed
Speaker 2: the inside of the box. And then Caitlin when she
Speaker 2: came down because she came with me for one day
Speaker 2: this year, she saw an Everdell Duo, which is a
Speaker 2: just a one v one you play against the other person.
Speaker 2: It's based the same core mechanics, but you're fighting just
Speaker 2: it's just one on one. It's not four player, it's
Speaker 2: just a two player version of Everdel. But there's so
Speaker 2: many good games. I mean, I don't know where to start.
Speaker 2: But if you want party games, I liked, I like,
Speaker 2: I have a lot of party games. So there's like
Speaker 2: a game called Sushi Go. It's it sounds it sounds funny,
Speaker 2: it's a game where it's a game where you try
Speaker 2: and collect different types of sushi. And it's a party game,
Speaker 2: so you could be two to eight players, so you
Speaker 2: can have eight players at the same time fighting for sushi.
Speaker 2: It's really incredibly fun. Oh god, there's so many good
Speaker 2: games Andy, I don't even know where to start.
Speaker 1: It's mainly jen Con is mainly adventure games. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna find games like Cards against Humanity, which a few
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 2: But you'll find Yeah, you'll find Card against Humanity. You'll
Speaker 2: find all sorts of those kinds of games. You'll find
Speaker 2: anything tabletop related this year, so you'll find Card against
Speaker 2: the Humanity. You'll find the really kind of crude and
Speaker 2: humorous ones like Joking Hazard Uh. If you're familiar with
Speaker 2: the comic Cyanide and Happiness, Yes online they have. They
Speaker 2: created a card game a handful of years ago. They
Speaker 2: actually created several Trial by Trolley, which is another really
Speaker 2: fun one. There's so many good games, like I could
Speaker 2: just show you my shelf and tell you why these
Speaker 2: games are all good. Right, But then there's table there's
Speaker 2: RPG's right, so you've got Dungeons and Dragons, Dagger Heart,
Speaker 2: Call of Cthulhu Eat the Reich. I mean, there's so
Speaker 2: many good RPG games that are out there that I
Speaker 2: don't even know about because I wasn't super into other art,
Speaker 2: tabletop barbieges besides D and D for a long time.
Speaker 1: Now, if you've never been, uh, you've never played D
Speaker 1: and D, right, and the actual Dungeons and Dragons, is
Speaker 1: that something you know? I don't want to call it newbies,
Speaker 1: but is that something that they can get into pretty
Speaker 1: easily with a small girl friends.
Speaker 2: So, Dungeons and Dragons has been around for a long time.
Speaker 2: In twenty fifteen, I think twenty fifteen, they announced a
Speaker 2: new version of Dungeons and Dragons, right, because you had
Speaker 2: D and D three point five, then Dungeons Dragons four
Speaker 2: E which came out, and then they announced it was
Speaker 2: originally called D and D Next, but then they called
Speaker 2: it five E, fifth editionion and it kind of became
Speaker 2: a very rudimentary way to get people involved. It was
Speaker 2: a simpler set of rules, condensed everything. They started making
Speaker 2: these starter kits, starter boxes that were one shot modules,
Speaker 2: pre generated character sheets, things that made it really easy
Speaker 2: to get into D and D without having a D
Speaker 2: and D knowledge. Also spurned by stranger things. Right things
Speaker 2: came out. They were playing D and D in the
Speaker 2: show that you saw a big You saw a big
Speaker 2: uprising in popularity from that show. Plus you started seeing
Speaker 2: a trend where you had a lot of podcasters coming
Speaker 2: in doing play a live place. So you had critical
Speaker 2: role coming in around twenty fifteen doing D and D
Speaker 2: five E coming from Pathfinder, which is another tabletop version,
Speaker 2: another D and D style version of a game called Pathfinder.
Speaker 2: Different rules set, different rules, its own core world, its
Speaker 2: own system. Then five E became very popular. Now there
Speaker 2: are more podcasts than you can count on. Dungeons Dragons
Speaker 2: now slowly turning into a little bit more dagger Heart
Speaker 2: because Daggerhart just came out. It's a little bit more popular.
Speaker 2: I think it's incredible. It's an incredible system. I think
Speaker 2: Daggerheart's a little bit more user friendly for new players.
Speaker 2: So I think I said this about D and D.
Speaker 2: I know Matt plays D and D. I know Justin's
Speaker 2: maybe played once or twice, maybe you played a handful
Speaker 2: of years ago, back in the day. I would like
Speaker 2: to do a tech talk radio one shot I got
Speaker 2: to it, I would run it. You me, Matt and
Speaker 2: you me, Matt and Justin, and I think it'd be incredible.
Speaker 1: That would be a blast.
Speaker 2: But I think with Daggerhart. I think with dagger Heart
Speaker 2: we'd be able to just drop in and do it.
Speaker 2: I think it it'd be fun to do one in
Speaker 2: five E and one in Daggerhart and then compare for
Speaker 2: new players the systems. But yeah, I mean there's so
Speaker 2: many good, good shows. And what I like about gen
Speaker 2: Con is that you get to go and meet the
Speaker 2: people that make these games, because they like playing games
Speaker 2: just as much as you do.
Speaker 1: That's why they created it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then there's one group that I picked up
Speaker 2: a version of one of their games called The Darkest Dream,
Speaker 2: which was a it's a module for five E. So
Speaker 2: it's a book maps character, background story, you know, world
Speaker 2: and building, and it was incredible. It was called Gooey
Speaker 2: Gouey Cube. They're based out of Colorado, right met them there,
Speaker 2: loved their books. They you know, they said, hey, come
Speaker 2: check out our little show that we do. We're doing
Speaker 2: this little like game show style. We're going to bring
Speaker 2: in some D and D celebrities. We're gonna have them
Speaker 2: play our game for a little bit and maybe give
Speaker 2: some prizes away. That was like six years ago and
Speaker 2: now they're probably one of the biggest five E publishers
Speaker 2: third party publishers that exist. Wow, and their game show
Speaker 2: sales out every year and I did it this year,
Speaker 2: and they they have five players. They have four players
Speaker 2: that play the game show. This year they picked team captains.
Speaker 2: I was the team captain for one of the one
Speaker 2: of the players, so I got to help pick because
Speaker 2: they get the audience involved, and the audience can buy
Speaker 2: power ups and and buy rewards and stuff, and it
Speaker 2: was incredible I got to do that. We ended up
Speaker 2: not winning as but it was incredibly fun and I
Speaker 2: ended up getting some some a gift card for their store,
Speaker 2: which I went and properly spent more than what I
Speaker 2: probably should have at their store.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is this an expensive hobby to get into?
Speaker 2: Yes, it can be, right, it doesn't have to be
Speaker 2: because you can buy board games. And I think if
Speaker 2: you go and look go to Target, Target, really Walmart wherever,
Speaker 2: and go to their gaming section fifteen years ago, you
Speaker 2: never would have seen a majority of the titles that
Speaker 2: are on the shelves. You would have seen Uno, Monopoly Life. Sorry, right,
Speaker 2: trouble you know to your typical fahaha, fun Funwer family Games,
Speaker 2: candy Land, Shoots, the Letders, whatever. You are seeing a
Speaker 2: majority a lot of these titles at these retailers because
Speaker 2: they're becoming popular. Catan probably one of the most pop
Speaker 2: if if if you talk to somebody that's into board games,
Speaker 2: you said, what's the game that unit you like to play?
Speaker 2: And they'll take a.
Speaker 1: Tan, right.
Speaker 2: Catan is It's a settler. It's a hex based building.
Speaker 2: You restsettle and get resources and stuff. It's an incredibly
Speaker 2: fun game. It's been around for a very long time.
Speaker 2: I played it in grade school. It's kind of where
Speaker 2: I got my start and this whole thing. I played
Speaker 2: it with a youth with my youth group growing up
Speaker 2: and kind of just kind of rooted me into game
Speaker 2: board gaming at that time. But until I had adult money,
Speaker 2: I didn't really have a whole lot of money to
Speaker 2: spend on board games until after college and stuff, so
Speaker 2: kind of got into it.
Speaker 1: Then that's cool, all right. If our listeners gonna get
Speaker 1: more information about it, obviously there's websites. Is there one
Speaker 1: website maybe versus another that they could learn more about
Speaker 1: the different games or is it really.
Speaker 2: Bords Game, Board game geek dot com.
Speaker 1: Board game geek dot com. All right, that's that's probably.
Speaker 2: It's probably the best web website resource for board games.
Speaker 2: It's gonna give you, uh information about the game. It's
Speaker 2: gonna tell you you literally everything you need to know
Speaker 2: about the game, where you can buy it, Reviews, articles,
Speaker 2: they were all do they have They had a huge
Speaker 2: booth at gen Con so they do a big review
Speaker 2: every year. But you can sign in, build a profile,
Speaker 2: and put all of your games in there and then
Speaker 2: find other people that play those games and talk about them.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I want to play if you want to
Speaker 2: play online?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was that was gonna be my next question.
Speaker 1: Can that be.
Speaker 2: Board game Arena dot com?
Speaker 1: Oh all right?
Speaker 2: And you can play a lot of these titles online
Speaker 2: and they keep adding more and more every day, every
Speaker 2: you know, every time you go to there, like, oh,
Speaker 2: I can play that game?
Speaker 1: So how did how would that? How would that work?
Speaker 1: It's not a digital game, it's a board game, but
Speaker 1: you're playing online. Is it like a camera on your
Speaker 1: board or one board?
Speaker 2: No, it's it's a virtualized version of the board on
Speaker 2: the It's it's you just play in the browser. And
Speaker 2: it shows you the board and you it pops up
Speaker 2: the cards and it's all interactive. And they have a
Speaker 2: ton of the major major title platforms on there, and
Speaker 2: also some of the major titles have their own versions.
Speaker 2: Ticket to Ride Catan has their own but it's available
Speaker 2: on Board Game Arena, gloom Haven. I mean, there are
Speaker 2: so many good ones that just have their own digital
Speaker 2: platforms because it makes it more accessible. Because again, in
Speaker 2: the world of technology, in the world of knowing people
Speaker 2: around the world, you can't always get together and collaborate
Speaker 2: at a table. But true you're one screen away from
Speaker 2: being able to play with your friends around the world.
Speaker 1: So that makes it pretty cool. And that's how we
Speaker 1: would probably do the Tech Talk Radio one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would. We would do it on our website
Speaker 2: called roll twenty right, so a website designed for it's
Speaker 2: called the Virtual Tabletop so VTT. If you go to
Speaker 2: my YouTube channel, you guys have probably seen me streaming
Speaker 2: it before, where I streamed a handful of my DD
Speaker 2: games a couple of years ago throughout my sessions that
Speaker 2: I do. But I can make maps, I can put
Speaker 2: in minis, I can do all dynamic lighting, I can
Speaker 2: do all sorts of stuff, so I will build it
Speaker 2: in there, and then with dagger Heart. There's a website
Speaker 2: called Demiplane which has a character builder of character sheets,
Speaker 2: interactive character sheets that you can track all of your
Speaker 2: stats and everything online dynamically within the game, so that
Speaker 2: when you make changes, I see them as the as
Speaker 2: the GM and the other players can see them dynamically
Speaker 2: and it's all virtual.
Speaker 1: All right. Once again, that's bored great.
Speaker 2: There's a great community around it, and it's just it's
Speaker 2: it's so good.
Speaker 1: All right. That's board game geek dot com.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bord gamegeek dot com. All right, Bordgamemarina dot com.
Speaker 2: We're all twenty dot net, demiplane dot com. And I
Speaker 2: think we have to take a break.
Speaker 1: All right, We are going to take a break. Some
Speaker 1: comments made last week regarding Linux had some great responsive
Speaker 1: feedback and social media. We'll share a couple of those
Speaker 1: thoughts with you coming up on tech talk Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: Andy Taylor, I'm Sean to Weird.
Speaker 2: Follow us on Facebook at tech Talkers when we're back
Speaker 2: now back to tech talk Radio.
Speaker 1: During the break, Sean was showing me some of the
Speaker 1: photos from gen Con and uh, it's actually if you
Speaker 1: take a look at his camera, Sean, tell me what
Speaker 1: is this picture we're looking at right now?
Speaker 2: At gen Con, they have a vendor hall which has
Speaker 2: all the stores from the and this is the this
Speaker 2: is this. This is on Sunday, right of the people
Speaker 2: waiting to get in because the vendor hall opens at
Speaker 2: ten am every morning. And this is just the sea
Speaker 2: of people waiting. This is day five of the con.
Speaker 2: And this is the number of people waiting in line,
Speaker 2: so you can kind of see it just stretches on.
Speaker 1: And they come from all over for this the world.
Speaker 2: So a lot of these, a lot of the vendors
Speaker 2: are from Europe Asia. They're not just from the US
Speaker 2: or from this they're from Like having this so close
Speaker 2: to me here in Indianapolis is a blessing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I.
Speaker 2: Would travel to this show if it was in the
Speaker 2: different part of the country. Right it's it's a two
Speaker 2: and a half hour car drive for me.
Speaker 1: Oh it's still oh wow.
Speaker 2: But you get people flying in from all over the
Speaker 2: country to come to gen Con, all over the world
Speaker 2: to come to gen Con.
Speaker 1: Amazing great photos. Again, if you haven't seen the video
Speaker 1: up available, it's up on our websitelog blog dot tech
Speaker 1: talk radio dot com. This past week we talked a
Speaker 1: little bit about Linux, and I remember there's a there's
Speaker 1: another radio show that's out there that does tech and
Speaker 1: I remember when I heard the host make some kind
Speaker 1: of comment regarding Linux and said that he wouldn't talk
Speaker 1: about Linux. You didn't want to talk about it on
Speaker 1: the show because he felt that it was a niche
Speaker 1: and that not enough people were getting into it. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's rare to hear, you know, other shows
Speaker 1: talking about Linux and what it presents for you the user.
Speaker 1: And you may be fine with Windows and you know,
Speaker 1: you may be oh cool, and you may have already
Speaker 1: gone to Windows eleven. You're happy with it and it
Speaker 1: does its thing for you. Or maybe you're a Mac
Speaker 1: user and it really doesn't affect you that much because
Speaker 1: everything seems to work fine with Mac, right. But Linux
Speaker 1: is something for a lot of people, and there's so
Speaker 1: many different distributions. Justin made the comment, you know, Linux
Speaker 1: is kind of like you have this great Linux distribution,
Speaker 1: like Linux Mint twenty two. And it's like that meme
Speaker 1: with the guy walking with the girl and then he's
Speaker 1: turning around looking what he's looking at is the newest
Speaker 1: version of Windows. And we posted that clip on a YouTube, shorts,
Speaker 1: TikTok and other social media and it got a lot
Speaker 1: of comments and a lot of views from people out
Speaker 1: there that are using Linux. And I wanted to mention
Speaker 1: some of these comments because for those that have been
Speaker 1: on the fence about Linux, and I don't know, you
Speaker 1: have used Linux in the past, right, Sean Oh.
Speaker 2: I got yes, I've been using Linux for various things
Speaker 2: for decades at this point, right.
Speaker 1: And I know Slick who is on the show with
Speaker 1: us quite quite often has used different distributions red hat
Speaker 1: the whole bit when goes way back with Linux used
Speaker 1: to carry around USB drives on you know, the things
Speaker 1: you wrap up put it around your neck, and he'd
Speaker 1: have like ten or twelve of them. It's a carry
Speaker 1: over out. But so with the comments that Justin had
Speaker 1: made on the social media, some of the comments Jarreff
Speaker 1: Fox wrote, Linux unlimited customization runs almost everything, open source
Speaker 1: alternatives for almost everything that doesn't work or is not free.
Speaker 1: Windows familiar and easy and intrusive and very virus friendly.
Speaker 1: You know, it's pretty accurate, because I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: to say that the Linux community does not have to
Speaker 1: deal with you know, spyware, malware viruses, the whole bit.
Speaker 1: But it is pretty accurate that Windows becomes a giant
Speaker 1: target number one for its huge user base, although that's
Speaker 1: decreased over time. We saw a report recently and said
Speaker 1: that the number of people that have left the Windows
Speaker 1: platform was quite substantial. There's another one here from Brossia.
Speaker 1: Chill says, I can understand the appeal of Linux, but
Speaker 1: as a daily driver, I've always used Windows and can't
Speaker 1: force myself to switch. I think we get used to
Speaker 1: some of the programs that are out there, and you know,
Speaker 1: the programs that run within Windows, and whether it be Office,
Speaker 1: whether it be Adobe Suite, or whether it be you know,
Speaker 1: any of those programs that we use under Windows. We
Speaker 1: get so used to them we don't realize that there
Speaker 1: are good options in Linux that people could be using.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's good desktop environments, right, there's so everybody.
Speaker 2: When you think of Linux, you think of like a
Speaker 2: hacker sitting at a computer running command line. Sure, if
Speaker 2: you're into that, you can run a command line only
Speaker 2: in There are Linux distributions that are command line only. Right,
Speaker 2: You have to know how to make directories and point
Speaker 2: and run the executables from directories and compile stuff. And
Speaker 2: sure if you want to, if you're into that, great,
Speaker 2: But there are a lot of distros that come natively
Speaker 2: with a gulley that you can you can log into
Speaker 2: and you get Firefox built in. Most often you can
Speaker 2: download Chrome if they have a software center. Like if
Speaker 2: you're just doing daily web browsing and maybe some minor
Speaker 2: work processing, you would have no issue using Linux.
Speaker 1: Absolutely open Office. There's so many there's so many third
Speaker 1: party programs out there that are available on the that
Speaker 1: will run on the Linux platform that are either free
Speaker 1: or not very expensive, and you could get the free
Speaker 1: version to see how it's gonna work for you, and
Speaker 1: then maybe expand to a version that can provide a
Speaker 1: little more you know, customization and maybe for what you want.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Alternative too, and we may have mentioned this last week.
Speaker 1: Does that have you know an area where hey, if
Speaker 1: you're running Linux, this is my work for you. Yes,
Speaker 1: So alternative to dot net as a site you can
Speaker 1: go to if you run a program like maybe you're
Speaker 1: using Adobe Photoshop and with the change the software and
Speaker 1: services it got a little expensive. You decided, Man, I
Speaker 1: haven't a hard time with this, but I want to
Speaker 1: be able to adjust my photos. Yes, our smartphones can
Speaker 1: do a lot of that, but you know, there's other
Speaker 1: programs out there like Gimp, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: there's you know that'll that'll run under that. There's other
Speaker 1: programs that'll run under these great environments.
Speaker 2: On alternative too. I just typed in what is what
Speaker 2: is alternative to Linux Mint, which is one of my
Speaker 2: favorite distributions. Now I've used a lot, right, I've used
Speaker 2: a BUN two, I've USEDDBN, but Linix Mint just just
Speaker 2: the most user friendly less It's just it just works
Speaker 2: and it's a quickly.
Speaker 1: I got it to run on a CD if you know,
Speaker 1: if you if you want to on an old laptop
Speaker 1: it it'll work great.
Speaker 2: But I put it in there were one hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy seven different alternatives to Linux Mint.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what does that tell you? Yeah, go go
Speaker 1: down the hole?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Another comment there, Linux is great if you're unemployed and
Speaker 1: have nothing better to do than fight your operating system.
Speaker 1: Twenty four to seven. I don't know if that one
Speaker 1: can be one hundred percent true. Kobe, I think had
Speaker 1: written that one because I think, honestly, you're gonna find
Speaker 1: a different distribution may solve some of the issues you've
Speaker 1: been having that may be a lot easier.
Speaker 2: You gotta find one, find one that is built for
Speaker 2: people that don't want to learn Linux. So I mean, yes,
Speaker 2: there is some fundamental understanding you have to have. It's
Speaker 2: not Windows. You're not gonna be able to go to
Speaker 2: a website, download their file and install it for Windows
Speaker 2: because the one they might not have it. Two they
Speaker 2: might have a Linux installer for it. If you get
Speaker 2: a good distribution of Linux that has a guy that
Speaker 2: makes it easy to install stuff.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be just fine.
Speaker 2: But every version of Linux allows you to take that
Speaker 2: step into the deep end and run your own command
Speaker 2: line in their faces if you want, build it out
Speaker 2: from there. But the benefit of Linux is it runs
Speaker 2: on everything. You've got a ten year old laptop laying
Speaker 2: around that you don't know what to do with, slap
Speaker 2: us hard driving it, get it to the highest amount
Speaker 2: of ramu R CPU can support. Put Linux on it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gonna run.
Speaker 1: Got the old computer to.
Speaker 2: Get some life into an old computer. If you want,
Speaker 2: you give it to your kid to play with. Like
Speaker 2: I'm excited for all. I mean, I've got tons of
Speaker 2: computers in my house. Reals that I'm excited for when
Speaker 2: Max can just break down a computer and put Linux
Speaker 2: on it and have fun and destroy it and riddle
Speaker 2: it with malware and like learn how to learn how
Speaker 2: to you know, do stuff on a Linux computer. Like
Speaker 2: that's where I started right so long ago, and still
Speaker 2: doss at that point. But such so much of our
Speaker 2: stuff in the industry runs on Linux back end servers
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Having a fundamental understanding of the
Speaker 2: basics of Linux is important. Do I know how to
Speaker 2: deep dive and like code stuff and do all my
Speaker 2: own software development? Get no, But I can at least
Speaker 2: step in the right direction and say, okay, here's where
Speaker 2: our problem lies, and then go to the developer and say, look,
Speaker 2: it's screwing up this directory by when I install this
Speaker 2: file or run this thing, it goes, you know, and
Speaker 2: then they can figure it out from there.
Speaker 1: But some some there were some great comments, and I
Speaker 1: want to thank everybody who did take the time to
Speaker 1: leave a comment, whether it be ond TikTok or YouTube.
Speaker 1: But I like this one and it makes sense, And
Speaker 1: tell me if this is the truth. Linux is a
Speaker 1: great operating system. I've used it for decades. The problem
Speaker 1: I found that it's got a very toxic community. If
Speaker 1: you don't know something, don't ask in a forum, you'll
Speaker 1: most likely get ridiculed till you leave. There's very little
Speaker 1: help for newbies.
Speaker 2: And that's why I like chat GPT.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, because absolutely I can ask chat.
Speaker 2: GPT the question and it gives me the answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It doesn't say go get a book, or doesn't say
Speaker 2: go to coding school or figure it out yourself. But
Speaker 2: that's true of any hobby that.
Speaker 1: There's always somebody in that hobby, whether it be radio
Speaker 1: control or drone flying, the whole bit. If you join
Speaker 1: a group, there might be somebody in there that knows
Speaker 1: more than you, and they'll lay like.
Speaker 2: Everybody on every forum that just says use Google. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 2: if I wanted to be part of the community, why
Speaker 2: in the heck am I going to go to Google?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why can't I interact with the community and get advice
Speaker 2: from other people in the community that may have had
Speaker 2: these struggles when I started. That's what I hate about
Speaker 2: online forums. There's no sense of community. It's it's just
Speaker 2: me against you figure it out yourself. Google it. I
Speaker 2: don't want to take the time to help you figure
Speaker 2: it out yourself.
Speaker 1: And it happens in every community. That's the Linux community though,
Speaker 1: but a Linux it's it's photography. I've seen that photography.
Speaker 1: I've seen the people everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah did everything?
Speaker 1: Uh and Chad gbt well, some people will say, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not using that. I'll tell you it's helped in coding.
Speaker 1: I have seen. I've put in stuff where I said, hey,
Speaker 1: how can I clean this code up? And it will
Speaker 1: tell it'll go through and tell you how to do it.
Speaker 1: It's been to me, it's been Okay, this is really helpful.
Speaker 1: That's why I am hoping in schools that they are
Speaker 1: really gonna go ahead and make this a part of
Speaker 1: the curriculum, or they teach the proper prompting and use
Speaker 1: of chat GPT to get the most out of out
Speaker 1: of AI whatever, you know, whatever platform they're using, because
Speaker 1: there is chattpt isn't the only game in town, but
Speaker 1: honestly so that they can learn.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And my favorite thing to see on forums and
Speaker 2: and threads and stuff is have you ever had somebody
Speaker 2: just send you a link to the let me google
Speaker 2: that for you.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't is.
Speaker 2: There is a website that you can go to. It's
Speaker 2: called let me Google that dot com.
Speaker 1: Really okay, you type, you.
Speaker 2: Type in what you wanted to search, and then you
Speaker 2: send them a link. Right opens up Google and it
Speaker 2: types it in and hits search for you. So you
Speaker 2: click on the automatically opens Google types in what you
Speaker 2: wanted to say in searches.
Speaker 1: Now, I know you're on Reddit. Do you do you
Speaker 1: find that type of community that that toxic kind of
Speaker 1: feeling something the whole website you mean or read it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole website is overally.
Speaker 2: You have to you have to take Reddit with a
Speaker 2: grain of salt, right, any any community on Reddit. Some
Speaker 2: of them are okay, yeah, a lot of them are
Speaker 2: are full. Are full. It's this is your first time
Speaker 2: on the internet, Andy, Like, I mean.
Speaker 1: I've caught some of that, but you know, I just
Speaker 1: it's it's yeah. I've been in radio many years and
Speaker 1: I've had people that have come up to me right
Speaker 1: to my face that said I don't like you on
Speaker 1: the radio. You know that that'll bit that happens, and
Speaker 1: you've got a smile, just say, okay.
Speaker 2: It's every industry, every hobby, everybody's got them right, you know.
Speaker 2: I just I'll always answer questions for people as honestly
Speaker 2: and truthfully as they can.
Speaker 1: Well, when we did started doing the show too, we
Speaker 1: would get that, you know, you get somebody would call
Speaker 1: in and they would ask a question, and then we
Speaker 1: give the answer, and then somebody else would call in
Speaker 1: and say, you gave the wrong answer. This is the answer.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna help.
Speaker 2: Then you you do your own show. That okay, bye,
Speaker 2: you want to be the face of the show, Go
Speaker 2: away and ahead, make your own show, all right.
Speaker 1: New products. We love talking about new stuff, especially when
Speaker 1: it comes to drones, photography, the whole bit. There's some
Speaker 1: new stuff we want to tell you about. We got
Speaker 1: a listener question as well that we're going to go
Speaker 1: over two of them when we come back with tech
Speaker 1: talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Dea Whirred.
Speaker 2: Follow us on Instagram at tech talk Radio.
Speaker 1: We love your right back and now back to tech
Speaker 1: talk Radio.
Speaker 2: During the break, we kind of went through a couple
Speaker 2: of listener questions. We're gonna read a couple here, and
Speaker 2: we've got Dave right and say where Dave's from but
Speaker 2: somewhere in there, David da I would say it wrong.
Speaker 2: So Dave has a new laptop, right, and it's in
Speaker 2: Windows S mode.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And when Andy told me what this question was and
Speaker 2: I read it, I was like, what, yeah, what what
Speaker 2: is Windows?
Speaker 1: You haven't had to deal with Windows.
Speaker 2: You had to deal with Windows sight, right, Okay, we're
Speaker 2: doing when it was eleven, right, but now it's Windows eleven.
Speaker 1: S all right, or Windows TENNIS stands.
Speaker 2: For Windows eleven Secure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. So Dave's question says, I have no
Speaker 1: idea what that is, but a buddy at work said,
Speaker 1: get rid of it.
Speaker 2: Simplified secure, switchable. That's what it means, which is it's
Speaker 2: a limiting version of Windows. It's like parental controls for Windows.
Speaker 1: Exactly what it is. And people have been buying these
Speaker 1: laptops with Windows S on it, not realizing that there
Speaker 1: is some limitations to it.
Speaker 2: But what they don't know is it's actually Windows eleven.
Speaker 2: It's just in S mode. So you can if you
Speaker 2: really want to, and you should, in my opinion, follow
Speaker 2: the steps. I found it just a quick Google search,
Speaker 2: which we talked about Google in the last episode. I
Speaker 2: googled it. Tech Radar has a great article about it.
Speaker 2: There's hand vision a dozen articles about it right off
Speaker 2: the rip on Google on how to get out of
Speaker 2: wind that mode. All right, but according to the article,
Speaker 2: it's going to scare you. Yeah, oh, it's it's going
Speaker 2: to threaten you. If you leave Windows asmods, you can't
Speaker 2: go back.
Speaker 1: Well, I think, I don't know. This is kind of
Speaker 1: the thing that we're going through right now with the
Speaker 1: Windows ten to Windows eleven. There's a lot of fear
Speaker 1: going on. There's people who actually believe you should know
Speaker 1: that your computer will not suddenly not turn on on
Speaker 1: October fourteenth, when the support for Windows ten will supposedly
Speaker 1: or previous versions have already gone, but when Windows ten
Speaker 1: will no longer be considered a supporting operating system. Now
Speaker 1: they're scaring you. They're believing if the people that believe that,
Speaker 1: they think, oh my gosh, I got to get something
Speaker 1: new now. The new word that they're putting out is well, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: You could get security updates for a year, because that's
Speaker 1: what is Windows ten will still work and you get
Speaker 1: security updates. If you're connected to the net, you get
Speaker 1: security updates fore year. But you gotta connect your laptop
Speaker 1: of your desktop, whatever one you're using to one drive.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about one drive.
Speaker 2: We hate one drive. I hate it.
Speaker 1: It's mucked up.
Speaker 2: It's mucked up the last two major installations I've done
Speaker 2: for somebody, I've had to field phone calls. Why do
Speaker 2: I only have five gigabytes of storage on my hard drive?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? I tried to copy my
Speaker 2: files over it and said it was full. I was like, full,
Speaker 2: you've got a terabyte since I have five gigabytes and
Speaker 2: I need to pay for more storage. As soon as
Speaker 2: you said I have to pay for more storage, I
Speaker 2: knew it was one drive immediately, and I was like, yep,
Speaker 2: that out of here.
Speaker 1: I'm beginning emails recently, uh for photos from one drive.
Speaker 1: It says these are your daily photos. They're a month old.
Speaker 1: I thought this is some kind of spam, but they're
Speaker 1: my photos. They're my photos that I used on a
Speaker 1: previous system that was connected to one drive, that were
Speaker 1: uploaded and it's now send emailing me those photos saying,
Speaker 1: here's the memories you have from one drive because it
Speaker 1: wants me to use one drive and this is the
Speaker 1: thing you shouldn't be afraid. WINDOWSS is designed to protect
Speaker 1: your system from going out and getting third party programs
Speaker 1: and installing them. If that program is not available in
Speaker 1: the Windows Store, the Microsoft Store, right, whether it be
Speaker 1: free program or a paid program, you can't install it.
Speaker 2: It's just it's just a way to prevent people from
Speaker 2: just installing willie nilly. It'd be great for a kid,
Speaker 2: maybe an elderly parent that maybe doesn't know how to
Speaker 2: stop and clicking on bad links or downloading fake programs
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Sure, but for the general user,
Speaker 2: it's just going to frustrate you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have to use it.
Speaker 2: Follow the steps, get out of Windows S mode, get
Speaker 2: on to Windows eleven, and you'll be just fine.
Speaker 1: The other thing is you have to use their Edge
Speaker 1: browser if you're in S mode, So that has which
Speaker 1: is the end of world.
Speaker 2: Right, everybody's like, oh, it's Edge. Edge is built on Chrome.
Speaker 1: You don't like Edge.
Speaker 2: Right, everybody's gonna have an opinion. We talked about this
Speaker 2: last and they're in the last segment, right, every have
Speaker 2: opinion about their browser, their favorite one, and how many
Speaker 2: ways you can wash a sheep or skin of scirt
Speaker 2: of skin a cat whatever, whatever the analogy.
Speaker 1: Is, give a sheep.
Speaker 2: Whatever, you know what I mean. But it's everybody's gonna
Speaker 2: hate on Edge. Everyone's gonna hate on Chrome, Everyone's gonna
Speaker 2: had on Firefox, Brave you, everybody's gonna hate on whatever
Speaker 2: browser you use because it's not the one they use, right,
Speaker 2: But it's Edge. It'll get you where you want to go.
Speaker 2: It'll get you. So you can download Chrome, but do.
Speaker 1: Not to know, and I don't mean to, you know,
Speaker 1: go off of the left field here. I personally am
Speaker 1: getting so tired of these programs that want to connect
Speaker 1: with everything you do, whether it be Chrome or Edge.
Speaker 1: I have some ManTech. I use the Norton product. I'm
Speaker 1: like every day saying I need to drop this thing
Speaker 1: because it's become so obtrusive, like every day pop up,
Speaker 1: Hey let's do this, or send me twenty four dollars,
Speaker 1: we'll do this. I just don't want anymore. I want
Speaker 1: it to be able to just do what you want,
Speaker 1: do what I paid for, and dow load Linux. There
Speaker 1: you go, and I'll go back to Linux. I need
Speaker 1: to turn this, you know, this system into a Linux box.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty much sure we're going to do it. You know.
Speaker 1: Right now we're trying something different too. We use Zoom.
Speaker 1: Normally we use Zoom all the time. We like it,
Speaker 1: we use it for our show, our video, but the
Speaker 1: quality is not really that great. I've not been very
Speaker 1: happy with that. And then we pay a third party
Speaker 1: service to create these great video short videos with that
Speaker 1: are you AI creates them? It says this would be
Speaker 1: a great this would be a great clip. Here, this
Speaker 1: would be a great and it gives it a scale.
Speaker 1: We use Opus clips for that, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's getting it's it's expensive. So I want to say,
Speaker 1: maybe on four hundred bucks, we can't upgrade to FOURK
Speaker 1: or two K even or the higher quality ten ADP
Speaker 1: with Zoom unless we were paying something like I want
Speaker 1: to say, two thousand dollars a year until I say, okay, ridiculous.
Speaker 1: We're on a tight budget. So I found this program
Speaker 1: called Riverside FM. I want to thank Scott Sands for
Speaker 1: recommending that. Who does radio? Scott told me about this
Speaker 1: and I looked at it and right now that's what
Speaker 1: we're doing with our video. So we're testing it out today.
Speaker 1: You might take a look at it and go that
Speaker 1: looks awful, Andy, or you might say that looks really great.
Speaker 1: You should stick with it. And it offers the environment
Speaker 1: the same thing that Zoom does with its transcripts, with
Speaker 1: its ability to save video, but it's saving it in
Speaker 1: higher quality. Supposedly. We don't know yet. This is the
Speaker 1: first time we've done it, and it will create the
Speaker 1: clips for us rather than us having to go and
Speaker 1: pay thirty bucks to Opus Clips for a month for
Speaker 1: us to get the features out of that. So again,
Speaker 1: never know, So again I may, I may, I may
Speaker 1: jump to Linux Mint this next week, So we'll see
Speaker 1: how that works for us next week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the segue off of comment you made just
Speaker 2: a little bit ago, right, I just thought about this.
Speaker 2: You talked about how one drive has pulled photos from
Speaker 2: an old build because you were connected. Yeah, and it
Speaker 2: reminded me of another software that I or another website
Speaker 2: that I used to use for photos. Have you ever
Speaker 2: heard of the website photobucket.
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah. I got emails from them for a long
Speaker 1: time saying grab your photos you right.
Speaker 2: So about a year ago I started getting emails from
Speaker 2: photo Bucket and I was like, I haven't used photobucket
Speaker 2: for ten years. They're like you've got photos and photo
Speaker 2: buckets that are gonna be deleted if you don't pay
Speaker 2: for five ninety nine a month. And I was like,
Speaker 2: it's a free service. What happened? Yeah, So I bit
Speaker 2: the bullet because they're like, you can't get access to
Speaker 2: your photos unless you pay five ninety nine?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: You couldn't log it, You couldn't log in and to
Speaker 2: get your photos. Nless you paid? Man, right now, I'm
Speaker 2: curious what do I have in there from that long ago?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And so I logged in and there were like ten
Speaker 2: pictures from something I uploaded to read it or Divan
Speaker 2: or like fifteen years ago. Oh. Man, right, but then
Speaker 2: but then I forgot to cancel. Oh a month later,
Speaker 2: I got an email saying thanks for your resubscription Photobucket.
Speaker 2: It was like, you got me, You got me exactly
Speaker 2: what you wanted. Here's your five all right?
Speaker 1: So would you recommend to Dave? And one thing I
Speaker 1: want to mention, Uh, Dave, if you do remove Windows S,
Speaker 1: you will also get warnings that once you remove it,
Speaker 1: you will not be able to reinstall it, all right,
Speaker 1: So just remember that. But if you don't think it's
Speaker 1: something you need. Yeah, you could. You could probably remove
Speaker 1: that safely. It's not going to do you any harm
Speaker 1: as well. Uh, all right, so we got to talk.
Speaker 1: We got to talk about what as a dji Uh
Speaker 1: and Instat three sixty both have had some pretty cool announcements.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, drone, some drone stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go.
Speaker 2: So Insta three sixty up the bombshell on the industry
Speaker 2: saying hey, here it comes. Instead three sixty we called
Speaker 2: it adrenalinarly, that's not right. I bought that it again.
Speaker 2: It's called the Instant three sixty Anti Gravity drone anti gravity. Now, okay,
Speaker 2: there's not a whole lot of stats on it right now.
Speaker 2: It's but it's got a built in three hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty degree camera which it's expected to weigh under the
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty gram limit, so you don't have
Speaker 2: to require the FAA infrastructure to register it. But they're
Speaker 2: saying it's going to have a huge, huge flight time.
Speaker 2: But they're saying the target launch is August, so that's soon, right,
Speaker 2: We're in August. It's August.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, so when is it coming? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But there's not much more. But it's saying built in
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty degree eight K capture because NAB
Speaker 2: in April they launched their new insta three sixty eight K.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so if you think civilization, it's got, it's got.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so then are.
Speaker 1: We going to run into the same problems though with
Speaker 1: into three sixties we did with dj I, you know,
Speaker 1: with the manufacturer where they're made because of that, terroriffs
Speaker 1: or even the complete you know, I can't get them
Speaker 1: in the US.
Speaker 2: I don't know, not really much info on that. But
Speaker 2: in response, you know, DJI has a gazillion drones. Everybody
Speaker 2: knows that, right, if you're flying a drone, it's likely
Speaker 2: a dj I. So this will this will break into
Speaker 2: that market and maybe put some pressure on d g I.
Speaker 2: And not that DJI needs the competition there, their drones
Speaker 2: are really really priced. Well, but so what's this going
Speaker 2: to do? What market is this going to shift in
Speaker 2: and where is it going to kind of filter in
Speaker 2: at competition for DJI? Well, then d g I drops
Speaker 2: the Osmo three sixty.
Speaker 1: Right, and they've had the Osmo line for a while, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Osma line, right, but they haven't had a three
Speaker 1: sixty camera, has it?
Speaker 2: They really had, They've had an act they've had an
Speaker 2: action cam, they have three sixty, right, go Pro has
Speaker 2: the go Pro Max, which apparently GoPros is pushing an
Speaker 2: update for their three sexy camera. So there's this, there's
Speaker 2: this interesting struggle. Right a decade ago, so twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: three sixty camps were huge, widely popular. Go to my
Speaker 2: YouTube page and go back and look at some of
Speaker 2: the three sixty videos I made using a Theta riok.
Speaker 2: Theta s that that was all pictures video. You could
Speaker 2: do it all with it, So it's not it's not
Speaker 2: a new it's not a new technology. It's been around
Speaker 2: for a long time. You're seeing it being used in
Speaker 2: vertical videos to show a whole scene. So you're seeing
Speaker 2: a lot of influencers, a lot of content creators using
Speaker 2: three sixty cameras and showing and being able to show
Speaker 2: different content, different angles, different clips, all from their same
Speaker 2: video interactively. You're seeing it's wild. You're seeing a ton
Speaker 2: of it on YouTube shorts.
Speaker 1: So so I could be watching a video and you know,
Speaker 1: turn my device to the right and I may be
Speaker 1: able to see what's going on on the right.
Speaker 2: So some of it, yes, So YouTube. You can stream
Speaker 2: three sixty video live on YouTube. At least you have
Speaker 2: been able to. I haven't done it in a long
Speaker 2: time where your phone is the camera. Now that's live
Speaker 2: right right. So that's the that's the hard part. Week
Speaker 2: I couldn't figure out was how do you make interactive
Speaker 2: content for YouTube with three sixty degree videos? You have
Speaker 2: to edit them. You have to. You have to edit
Speaker 2: and be creative and storytell within the three der sixty
Speaker 2: degree environment. It's too much for people. We tried to
Speaker 2: do it with news content. We tried to do it live,
Speaker 2: but nobody wants to sit their phone and go, Okay,
Speaker 2: what am I looking at?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Hold on, I got to handle the right Oh there's
Speaker 2: the action. Oh oh cool, Now so there's this guy.
Speaker 2: Oh oh I missed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So trying to generate that content, but you're seeing it
Speaker 2: being used interactively in edited pieces a lot on YouTube shorts,
Speaker 2: a lot on Instagram, and a lot on TikTok. So
Speaker 2: it's interesting how much of a time period has passed
Speaker 2: with this technology that exists has existed, and there wasn't
Speaker 2: a market for it at first. It kind of just
Speaker 2: fell outder the radar and everybody focused on action cams
Speaker 2: and higher quality cameras, and you know, and now all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, there's this huge Into three sixty kind
Speaker 2: of just was there. They kept developing, the technology, kept
Speaker 2: they kind of became the industry leader in three sixty, right,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it was like, whoa, hey,
Speaker 2: why is everyone all three sixty content? Where Into three
Speaker 2: sixty is the only one. No, there's Nikon has a
Speaker 2: three sixty cam, Kodak made a three sixty cam, go
Speaker 2: Pro made one. There's so many other three sixty cams
Speaker 2: that exist that are hilarious because you think, like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is wild, but there was no market for it,
Speaker 2: so they just stopped developing it, and Instant three sixties
Speaker 2: kind of kept there, and wow, now there's three major players,
Speaker 2: go Pro, Dji and Insta.
Speaker 1: We'll have an update maybe next week we get a
Speaker 1: little more info about that. Maybe we'll find out an
Speaker 1: actual release date for the Anti gravity as well. We're
Speaker 1: going to take another quick break. We come back with
Speaker 1: more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean
Speaker 1: to Weard.
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Speaker 1: Yes and now fact the tech Talk Radio. It was
Speaker 1: announced this week that many people who have been fans
Speaker 1: and waiting for the next Battlefield video game, if if
Speaker 1: you like playing games and you've played the Battlefield franchise,
Speaker 1: that there was going to be number one release date
Speaker 1: they got for I believe it's October tenth for Battlefield six.
Speaker 1: But they're giving people the chance to try it out
Speaker 1: and that's open beta.
Speaker 2: Open beta will run over two periods of time, August
Speaker 2: ninth and tenth in August fourteenth to seventeenth, So that
Speaker 2: just helps them get an idea of what the server
Speaker 2: load's going to feel like. It kind of gives you
Speaker 2: an idea of what the game is going to feel like,
Speaker 2: find out any game breaking bugs, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: You ever done a beta like this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done betas for several games over the years,
Speaker 2: some of the some of the original Battlefields, also Battlefield
Speaker 2: for some of the other Blzer games that I play,
Speaker 2: and some other just other.
Speaker 1: You have to have like a killer system, a gaming
Speaker 1: system to be able to do.
Speaker 2: To be honest, I think it was like a ten
Speaker 2: seventy TI was still like the bottom end of the spectrum.
Speaker 1: Most people will have a little better anyways, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can go.
Speaker 2: To their webs EA's website and find out what the
Speaker 2: specs are. But cool, And then I wanted to bring
Speaker 2: one more thing up. All right, what do you think
Speaker 2: across the OS is? What's the market share between Windows,
Speaker 2: Mac OS, Linux, Chrome OS and other?
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, oh, he forgot about Chrome OS too. I
Speaker 1: would say probably Microsoft holds the biggest piece of pie.
Speaker 2: I would say much as the pie.
Speaker 1: I would say it's about fifty two percent.
Speaker 2: Seventy to seventy one percent? Is Windows?
Speaker 1: Is it really? Still?
Speaker 2: Wow? This is based off of stat Counter, which is
Speaker 2: the website that it pulled from.
Speaker 1: Right, what about Mac Mac.
Speaker 2: Sixteen?
Speaker 1: That's it? Linux?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And then Chrome is Chrome?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know very many people that just
Speaker 1: stick with Chrome and get unless it's a laptop for school.
Speaker 1: That's all I think of when I think of that.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if Windows has got to be
Speaker 1: that much, I would think it's a little less. Well,
Speaker 1: those numbers will change.
Speaker 2: But for phones, Android seventy two percent, iOS twenty six percent?
Speaker 1: Really wow? So well Android, I looked at the new
Speaker 1: Android this past week. You got to check out the video,
Speaker 1: the one from Asus, the raw rog nine oh Man,
Speaker 1: the ro and I'm pro pretty amazing. Again. Check out
Speaker 1: the website tech talk radio dot com. You see the
Speaker 1: video there. That's it for this week. We ran out
Speaker 1: of time. Thank you Sean for coming on. I think
Speaker 1: next week we should have hopefully have Matt.
Speaker 2: The whole crew.
Speaker 1: Everybody will be with us and if you've got questions
Speaker 1: email them tech guys at tech talk radio dot com.
Speaker 1: I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean to Weard.
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