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Speaker 1: So let's start with just a really fundamental question. Where

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Speaker 2: Right? I mean where they actually stored exactly?

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Speaker 1: We just assume they're in our brains, right locked away

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in the neurons. But think about this for a second.

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If you had some terrible accident and you lost say

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half of your brain tissue, would you lose half of

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your life story?

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Speaker 2: That's the question, isn't it? Based on the classical view,

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the standard model of neurobiology, the answer should be a

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Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 2: The brain is a biological computer, a hard drive. You

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delete half the drive, you lose half the data. But

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the thing is the clinical evidence, and some of this

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goes back, you know, almost one hundred years. It just

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doesn't line up with that memory. Seems to be something

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else entirely. It's non local.

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Speaker 1: And that's where this gets so fascinating, because what if

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the brain isn't a hard drive at all? What if

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it's not a storage center but something, well, something much weirder,

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like a kind of cosmic antenna, a receiver, yes, a

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receiver constantly tuning into a universe where all that information,

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all your memories, maybe all of consciousness itself, is already there.

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Speaker 2: That is the absolute heart of the holonomic brain theory,

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and that's the astonishing hypothesis we're going to unpack today.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Thrilling Threads, where we take your sources and

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dive deep into what they really mean.

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Speaker 2: And today's exploration is all about this radical synthesis from

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two i mean absolute giants in their fields, the neuroscientists

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Carl Pribram and the quantum physicist David Bohm.

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Speaker 1: Their combined work creates this bridge a theory that might

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just explain everything from phantom limb pain to believe it

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or not precognition.

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Speaker 2: We're pulling from some really challenging material here, sources like

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doctor David Wollennick's work on the holographic view of reality,

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plus a number of articles detailing the collaboration between Prebrim

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and boem. Our mission is to really understand why these

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brilliant minds felt they had to look beyond just physical

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matter to explain how the mind works.

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Speaker 1: So here's the roadmap for you. We're going to start

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with the problem the neurological anomalies that just they shatter

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that neat, tidy model of the brain.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll see how Carl Probroun use the mathematics of

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the hologram to solve this crisis of distributed memory.

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Speaker 1: After that we take the full leap into the quantum

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realm with David Boem. We're going to explore his concepts

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of the implicate and explicate orders what he called the hollow.

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Speaker 2: Movement, and finally we'll put it all together. We'll look

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at the incredible implications this has for consciousness, for healing,

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and for the nature of time itself. So get ready,

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because we're starting with the hard evidence that your brain

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is not what you think it is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the standard model, this is what most of

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Speaker 2: School, absolutely the idea of localization. It dominates neurobiology specific

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functions like motor control or language or recognizing your mother's face.

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Speaker 1: Brain like a serpent board. This part does this, that

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part does that precisely.

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Speaker 2: And memory, we're taught is stored as a physical change

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an end gram, a change in the synaptic connections in

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a specific location in the cortex, which.

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Speaker 1: Makes total intuitive sense. I mean, if you damage the

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speech center, you can't speak So if you damage the

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spot where I don't know your memory, if third grade

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is stored, that memory should be gone forever.

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Speaker 2: It should be. But the evidence that memory and really

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all complex functions are distributed, not localized, it's just so

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persistent and so challenging to that neat model.

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Speaker 1: Where does that challenge start? What's the first big crack

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the earliest and most dramatic pieces of

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evidence comes from the Canadian neurosurgeon Wilder Penfield. His work

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Speaker 1: Right, I've heard of this. This is the guy who

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was like poking people's brains with an electrode while they

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Speaker 2: That's the one. He was operating on epileptic patients and

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he needed to map their brains very carefully before he

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removed any tissue, so he'd use his mile electrical probe

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just recall a memory. They had these hyper vivid, total

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sensory flashbacks. They were reliving it. They could hear entire

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conversations from years ago, smell the kitchen from their childhood home.

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Speaker 2: Was he famously concluded that everything we've ever experienced, no

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matter how small, is recorded. It's all there in the brain,

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just waiting for the right trigger. For him, this was

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definitive proof that memories were locked too specific localized circuits

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like files on a computer.

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critical footnote that always seems to get left out.

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Speaker 2: Of the textbooks, a crucial one. Our sources really emphasize

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this point. Penfield's findings, these vivid, localized flashbacks were never

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work on brains that were already compromised by epilepsy, Brains

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that are defined by disorganized electrical activity.

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Speaker 2: The million dollar question. It strongly suggests that when the

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brain is functioning normally, the way it retrieves memory is

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fundamentally different. It's not about finding one little spot, It's

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single location starts to fall apart.

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Speaker 2: It does. And when you move from just stimulating the

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brain to actually removing huge chunks of it, the whole

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localization model just it breaks down completely. It becomes sensational.

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studies on children with this, yeah, this intractable, life threatening epilepsy.

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doctor Eileen Vining's work at Johns.

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called a hemispherrectomy, which is I mean, it's as radical

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Speaker 2: It is. It's the complete surgical removal of an entire

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hemisphere of the brain, the left or the right gone.

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the physical structure, that should be catastrophic. You just lose

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seizures were gone. They actually showed improvement.

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Speaker 2: Their intelligence scores went up, their physical coordination improved. The

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remaining hemisphere displayed this incredible plasticity and just took over

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Speaker 1: That is astounding. So you take away fifty percent of

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the storage medium, but one hundred percent of the person,

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their identity, their life story, it's all still there, still accessible.

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Speaker 1: And if that's not enough to shake your foundations, then

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we have to talk about doctor John Larber.

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Speaker 2: Oh Larber's work is just it's the ultimate challenge. It

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was reported in a ninety eighty article in the journal

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Science with the very provocative title is your brain really necessary? I?

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Speaker 1: Love that? So what did he study?

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whose skulls were almost entirely filled with cerebrospinal.

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Speaker 1: Fluids, so there was barely any brain left.

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Speaker 2: Right, non functional, maybe nonverbal. But Larber found nine individuals

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Speaker 2: And get this, two of them had IQs over one

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hundred and twenty six. That puts them in the superior

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Speaker 1: How is that physically possible? I mean, how can you function,

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Speaker 2: The localization model has absolutely no answer.

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Speaker 1: For that, none at all. It completely fails. The only

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logical conclusion you can draw is that the mind or

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the memory or intelligence must be encoded by some property

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that is independent of physical mass and location.

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Speaker 2: Which brings us to what might be the most extreme

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Speaker 1: So what did he do.

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Speaker 2: He performed over seven hundred operations on salamanders. They are

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Speaker 2: He'd trained them to perform specific complex feeding behaviors, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he would what He would mince.

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Speaker 1: He made a brain smoothie. And what happened? I mean

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cognitive scrambling. But the sources are clear. As the salamander's recovered,

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Speaker 2: And Peach, after years of trying and failing to find

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the memory spot, finally gave up and concluded the mind

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Speaker 1: It's in codes of wave phase that sounds holographic.

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Speaker 2: It's the perfect bridge that insight that the brain is

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holoonomic brain theory. The old model is broken. We need

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Speaker 1: So Carl Prebram, he saw all this conflicting evidence from

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these extreme clinical cases, and he knew the old model

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Speaker 2: He did. He understood that this bizarre phenomenon of distributed

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function needed a new explanation, and he realized that all

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these strange properties, they were perfectly explained by the physics

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Speaker 1: Okay, So most of us when we hear hologram, we

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apple exactly.

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apple surface. Then that second beam colligns with the first beam,

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the clean reference beam, and where they meet. You place

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a piece of photographic.

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Speaker 1: Film, and what gets recorded on the film isn't a

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picture of an apple.

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Speaker 2: Not at all. It's a swirl. It's a complex, seemingly

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random pattern of light and dark ripples. It's called an

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interference pattern. Yeah, and to the naked eye it looks

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like nothing. But mathematically, that blur contains the absolute totality

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Speaker 1: And here is the part that solved Prebrim's crisis. This

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is the core holographic property.

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Speaker 2: This is it. If you take that piece of hologram

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graphic film and you cut it into pieces, even a

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tiny fragment, that tiny fragment still contains all the information

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needed to reconstruct the entire three dimensional image of the apple.

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Speaker 1: The hole is in the park.

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Speaker 2: The hole is in every part. Now, the movies you

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project from a smaller piece will be fuzzier, less detailed,

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but it will always be the whole apple.

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Speaker 1: And that is the perfect explanation for the salamander slurry,

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for the hemispherrectomies. If every part of the brain contains

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the whole memory, you can scramble it. You can remove

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huge chunks of it, and the life story the learned behavior.

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still there.

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Speaker 2: It also solves another massive problem, storage capacity. The mathematician

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John von Neuman did a calculation. He figured the human

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brain stores something on the order of two point eight

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times ten to the twentieth bits of information in a.

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Speaker 1: Lifetime, which is a number so big it's basically meaningless.

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Speaker 2: It's astronomical, and it dwarfs the capacity of any model

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based on storing one bit of information in one synapse.

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You need a mechanism for incredibly dense information storage, and

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holography provides that you can store vast amounts of data

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in a very small space because the interference patterns can

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be recorded down to the wavelength of the light itself.

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Speaker 1: So if the brain is a hologram, what's creating the

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interference patterns, what's.

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Speaker 2: The laser Prebrim's idea was that the brain is so

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densely packed with neurons all constantly firing these little electrical pulses.

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in that confined space, these waves are constantly crisscrossing, interfering

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with each.

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Speaker 1: Other, creating a constant, dynamic interference pattern.

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Speaker 2: A neural hologram. So the fundamental language of the brain

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isn't just a simple on off chemical signal between two neurons.

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It's the language of wave interference.

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Speaker 1: And if that's true, there must be a mathematical basis

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for it.

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Speaker 2: There is, and Prebrim reasoned that if the brain is

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operating like this, it must be using a specific kind

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of math Fouria mathematics.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's break that down. Transform.

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Speaker 2: What is it In simple terms, it's a mathematical tool.

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It's a way to take any complex pattern, a sound

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wave of a picture, anything, and translate it into a

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language of simple constituent waveforms, frequencies. And crucially, it lets

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you reverse the process. You can take the frequency information

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and turn it back into the original pattern.

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Speaker 1: It's the math that was literally used to invent the hologram.

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Speaker 2: Precisely, and this isn't just a hypothesis. This was validated

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in the lab. Researchers like the Devil Laws proved that

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the cells in the visual cortex, they don't respond to

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the patterns we see, like a sharp line or a

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specific shape.

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Speaker 1: They don't what do they respond to?

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Speaker 2: They respond to the fourty eight translations of those patterns,

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the underlying frequencies. The brain is processing the world in

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the frequency domain first and foremost.

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Speaker 1: So it's constantly taking the reality we see the object

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and converting it into this unfolded frequency data, this interference pattern,

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and then our conscious perception is the brain translating it

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back into what looks like a three D world out there.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, it's a virtual image, which is why the classic

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example of the phantom limb is so powerful.

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Speaker 1: Right, you stub your toe, the pain isn't actually in

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your toe, No.

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Speaker 2: It's a neurophysiological process in your brain. Your brain creates

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a neural hologram of your foot and then assigns the

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pain to that specific location on the internal map.

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Speaker 1: So when an amputee feels agonizing pain in a limb

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that is physically gone, it's because the neural hologram, the

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frequency blueprint of that limb is still active in the brain.

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Speaker 2: The brain literally cannot distinguish between the real object and

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the remembered image of that object. The hologram is a

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reality as far as the brain is concerned.

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Speaker 1: When prebrims showed this wasn't just for vision or memory.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he cited the work of Nikolai Bernstein from the

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nineteen thirties. Bernstein recorded dancers movements by putting white dots

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on their joints, and he showed that these incredibly complex

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fluid movements could be broken down and predicted using fourio

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wave analysis.

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Speaker 1: So even the commands to move of our bodies are

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being sent out in a frequency language.

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Speaker 2: It seems to be the universal operating system. The brain thinks, sees, remembers,

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and moves in the frequency domain.

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Speaker 1: So Prebrim has this incredible model the brain is a

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holographic decoder. But that just leads to an even bigger,

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more profound question, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: It's the ultimate question. If the reality inside our heads

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is a hologram, a decoded frequency pattern, then what is

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it a hologram of? Is the objective reality out there

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also just a frequency pattern?

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Speaker 1: Is it all just maya, as the mystics would say,

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an illusion.

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Speaker 2: That's the question that forced Prebrim to look beyond neuroscience

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and into the deepest, weirdest parts of quantum physics, and

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that's what led him to David Bohm.

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Speaker 1: Right, so if Prebrim built the receiver, David Boehm is

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the one who described the broadcast.

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Speaker 2: That's a perfect way to put it. Boehm was a

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brilliant physicist, a protege of Einstein's, and he was looking

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at the same weird quantum paradoxes that were baffling everyone else.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't satisfied with the standard answers, was he.

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Speaker 2: Not at all? Standard quantum theory was a huge success

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in terms of making predictions, but Boem felt it was

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a philosophical failure. It didn't give a clear coherent picture

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of what the world was actually made of.

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Speaker 1: He was focused on the whole wave particle duality thing, right,

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the basic stuff of the universe. Quanta sometimes behave like

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particles and sometimes like waves.

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Speaker 2: And the really weird part which experiments like the double

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slid experiment seemed to show is that they only collapse

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into definite particles when we are looking at them. When

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we're not observing them, they exist as spread out waves

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of probability.

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Speaker 1: This is where my brain starts to hurt y.

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Speaker 2: That's where everyone's brain starts to hurt And it led

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Bohm to propose this revolutionary news structure for reality, which

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he divided into two levels.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what are they.

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Speaker 2: First, there's the explicate order, the unfolded order. This is

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our world, the tangible reality of coffee cups, trees, and

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our own bodies. Boem saw this world as transient, secondary,

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almost like a temporary projection.

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Speaker 1: The holographic image exactly.

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Speaker 2: And then underneath it all there's the implicate order, the

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unfolded order. He called this the ground of existence. This

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is the deeper primary reality, where everything, all matter, all information,

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across all of space and time is enfolded together in

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a state of unbroken wholeness.

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Speaker 1: So the world we see the explicate order is just

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the result of things constantly unfolding out of this deeper

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reality and then unfolding back into it.

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Speaker 2: A constant flux, a dynamic process. And once you accept

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that the universe is organized this way like a hologram

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where the hole is in every part, the normal rules

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of location just they break down.

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Speaker 3: This is non locality, Yes, the idea that everything is

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instantaneously and fundamentally interconnected, no matter how far apart things

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appear to be in our explicate.

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Speaker 1: Three D world, Boom actually preferred a different term. Didn't

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he something that captured the dynamic nature of it?

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Speaker 2: He did. He called it the hollow movement. He wanted

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to stress that this deeper reality is an a static thing.

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It's a continuous, active flow, constantly unfolding into the world

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we see and then folding back into wholeness.

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Speaker 1: That is a massive concept to try and wrap your

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head around. Did he have any analogies to help visualize it.

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Speaker 2: He had two fantastic ones that are crucial for getting

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a feel for this hidden structure. The first is the

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analogy of the fish in the aquarium. Imagine you have

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a fish swimming in a tank, but you're not looking

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at the tank directly. You're looking at two TV screens

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fed by two separate cameras. One camera is pointed at

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the front of the tank and one is pointed at

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the side.

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Speaker 1: So on the screens I see two different fish. They

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seem like separate things they do.

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Speaker 2: They're two separate two D images, But as you watch them,

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you notice something strange. Every time one fish moves, the

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other one moves instantly and in a perfectly correlated way.

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You eventually realize they aren't two separate entities. Communicating with

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each other.

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Speaker 1: They're two different perspectives, two unfolded projections of one single

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underlying reality, the one real fish in the.

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Speaker 2: Tank that is his explanation for quantum entanglement article, seem

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to influence each other instantly across vast distances. They're not

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sending signals faster than light. They're just two fish images,

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two projections of one indivisible, non local reality. They were

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never separate to begin with.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that makes it much clearer. They're two manifestations of

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the same thing. What's the second analogy, the one about enfolding.

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Speaker 2: This one is even more powerful. I think. Imagine a

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large glass cylinder filled with glycerin, a very thick, clear,

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viscous liquid, and you place a single drop of dark

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ink into.

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Speaker 1: It, right, So you have a discrete, localized ink.

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Speaker 2: Drop for now. But the cylinder has a handle you

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can turn, which slowly stirs the glycerin. As you turn

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the handle, the inkdrop gets stretched out, diffused. It spreads

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throughout the glycerin until it seems to disappear completely. It

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becomes disordered, random. The information looks.

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Speaker 1: Like it's been lost, It's been enfolded into the glycery exactly.

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Speaker 2: But here's the magic. If you then slowly and carefully

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turn the handle back in the opposite direction, the faint

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races of ink begin to draw back together, They collapse

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on themselves and miraculously reform perfectly into the original single droplet.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So even when it looked like chaos, the order

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was still there. It was just hidden and folded throughout

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the whole system.

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Speaker 2: The total content of the inkrop was preserved in the

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implicate order of the Glycerin our physical reality, Bom argued,

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is like that reconstituted droplet, a temporary unfolding from a

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much deeper infolded order.

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Speaker 1: And when you put that together with Prebram's holographic brain,

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the picture becomes just mind blowing.

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Speaker 2: It's the grand synthesis. Pribrim's brain isn't creating reality. It's

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a decoder interpreting the frequencies from Bohm's hollow movement. The

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brain mathematically constructs the objective reality we experience. By interpreting

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these frequencies. There are projections unfoldings from a deeper holographic

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dimension that exists beyond our normal understanding of space and time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's really impact that the Grand synthesis, the brain

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is a foury A D Cooder. The universe is a

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sea of unfolded holographic information, the implicate.

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Speaker 2: Order, right, and the theory. The big leap is that

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consciousness itself isn't generated by the squishy matter of the brain.

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Consciousness is primary. It exists perhaps universally, within that implicate order.

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Speaker 1: So what's the brain's job then, If it's not creating consciousness,

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what is it doing?

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Speaker 2: Its role shifts completely. It's no longer the factory or

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the storage unit. It's a filter, it's a receiver. It's

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a highly sophisticated antenna. Its job is to tune into

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a decode a very very tiny fraction of all that

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pre existing information in the quantum.

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Speaker 1: Field, and in doing so it transforms that vast infinite

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ocean of frequency into the limited tangible space time world

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we perceive the explicate order.

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Speaker 2: Yes, which is a massive conceptual jump. But the sources

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do try to offer some mechanics for how this decoding

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might work, how the brain interfaces with this quantum field.

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Speaker 1: Right, what does that signal even look like?

475
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Speaker 2: Well, to Boeme's model, in our explicate domain information manifests

476
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these these electromagnetic shells. He called isospheres.

477
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Speaker 1: Isispheres, and these exist at the absolute smallest possible scale

478
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of reality, don't.

479
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Speaker 2: They the absolute smallest. They're separated by a measurement of

480
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one plank length that's ten to the minus thirty five meters.

481
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It's a scale so small it's almost impossible to comprehend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the analogy I read was, if you blew up

483
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a single atom to be the size of the known universe,

484
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a plank length would be about the height of a

485
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tree on Earth.

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Speaker 2: It's the fundamental pixel of reality, the boundary where our

487
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physics breaks down. The theory says, our decoding mechanism is

488
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operating at this incredibly deep quantum level. These isis spheres

489
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are what resonate with the non local holiflex, the flow

490
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of information from the implicate.

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Speaker 1: Order, So our consciousness, the world we experience is basically

492
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a function of the brain's bandwidth. It's the specific tiny

493
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range of frequencies we are able to tune into. The

494
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world is just the channel we're watching.

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Speaker 2: And this idea lines up perfectly with what's called the

496
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fractal holographic model, the idea that our individual consciousness is

497
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an intrinsic, fractal reflection of the entire universe. The architecture

498
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of our mind mirrors the architecture.

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Speaker 1: Of the cosmos as above, so below, it's the.

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Speaker 2: Physical basis for that perennial mystical insight. The idea of

501
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unity isn't just a spiritual platitude, it's a description of

502
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the quantum field.

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Speaker 1: So to sum it up, the brain is not a

504
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factory creating consciousness. It's a radio receiving it from a

505
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universal tuantum broadcast.

506
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Speaker 2: And if that's true, if our perceived reality is an

507
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internally constructed holographic projection, then all the limits we assume

508
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about mind over matter just start to crumble.

509
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Speaker 1: This is where things get really wild, because if the

510
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brain is decoding frequencies and it can't always tell the

511
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difference between a real external signal and an internally generated one,

512
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this provides a mechanism for what we could call reality sculpting.

513
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Speaker 2: The most powerful and scientically accepted example of this is

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the Placebo effect. This isn't some minor medical curiosity. It's

515
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hard empirical proof that your belief your internal hologram, can

516
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fundamentally change your physical biology.

517
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Speaker 1: And the sources detail the story of mister Wright, which

518
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is just it's tragic but so powerful it is.

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Speaker 2: This is in the nineteen fifties, just to write, had

520
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terminal lymphosarcoma. He was covered in massive tumors, his chest

521
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was filling with fluid daily. He was on his.

522
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Speaker 1: Deathbed, but he heard about a new wonder drug called creviosin.

523
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Speaker 2: And he begged his doctor for it. He had absolute

524
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faith that this drug would save him. The doctor gave

525
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him an injection and within days his tumors had melted

526
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a half their size. The fluid in his chest vanished.

527
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He was out of his hospital bed, joking with the nurses.

528
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His recovery was miraculous, cured until until he read the news.

529
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The American Medical Association published a definitive report stating that

530
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Krebozen was a worthless, ineffective.

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Speaker 1: Sham, and his belief was shattered completely.

532
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Speaker 2: His cancer immediately came roaring back, and he died two

533
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days later. The neural hologram of I am being cured

534
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was powerful enough to reverse a terminal physical illness, and

535
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the hologram of this is worthless was instantly fatal.

536
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Speaker 1: That's just stunning proof the mind projected a reality of

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healing and the body, which is also a holographic projection.

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Speaker 2: It just it obeyed, and you see this in the

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broader statistics. Double blind studies show that placebos are often

540
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fifty to sixty percent as effective as powerful drugs like

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aspirin or even morphine.

542
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Speaker 1: There's also the story about the cancer drug cisplatinum.

543
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Speaker 2: Right when it was first introduced, it was hailed as

544
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a wonder drug and its effectiveness rate was around seventy

545
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five percent. But as that initial hype that collective belief

546
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faded over time, its effectiveness dropped to around twenty five

547
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or thirty percent. The collective placebo effect was responsible for

548
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more than half its power.

549
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Speaker 1: The shared holographic belief structure was literally changing how the

550
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drug interacted with people's bodies.

551
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Speaker 2: It seems so, and this ability of the mind to

552
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project a hologram onto the body leads us to one

553
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of the most astonishing clinical misas to associative identity disorder

554
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or DD.

555
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Speaker 1: Right, the sources use the older term MPD multiple personality disorder,

556
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and we know that each sub personality or alter has

557
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different memories, ages, and so on.

558
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Speaker 2: But it's the physical changes that defy any classical explanation.

559
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The sources detail how each sub personality can exhibit totally

560
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different brainwave patterns, different blood flow, even different muscle tone.

561
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Speaker 1: And it gets even stranger.

562
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Speaker 2: Right much stranger. You find cases where one personality is

563
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violently allergic to say, orange juice and will break out

564
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in hives, but another personality in the Xaccain body can

565
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drink it without any reaction at all.

566
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Speaker 1: So the body's physical programming is being completely rewritten based

567
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on which person is in control.

568
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Speaker 2: There are accounts of visual acuity changing, so different personalities

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need different eyeglass prescriptions. Even eye color has been reported

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to shift. Menstrual cycles can vary.

571
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Speaker 1: If the body were just a fixed material thing, none

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of that should be possible.

573
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Speaker 2: It shouldn't. The question the holographic theory apps is this

574
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is the brain using holographic principles to store and access

575
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completely different physiological blueprints for the same body. It's like

576
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the mind is swapping out the reality file for the

577
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physical structure, projecting dozens of different physiologically distinct people into

578
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one physical container.

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Speaker 1: So if the mind can shift reality that dramatically inside

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the body, what about outside the body? This is where

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we get into psychokinesis PK mind over matter.

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Speaker 2: If reality is fundamentally appliable frequency pattern, then conscious intent

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should be able to influence it. And there's some compelling

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lab data here. The work at the Princeton Engineering Anomalies

585
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Research Lab, the per Lab.

586
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Speaker 1: Right John and Dunn. They had volunteers try to influence

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the output of random event generators.

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Speaker 2: These are machines that use quantum processes to produce genuinely

589
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random fifty to fifty outcomes like a perfect coin flip,

590
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and over millions of trials, volunteers were able to cause

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small but statistically significant shifts away from chance. They could

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nudge the randomness with their minds.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't just on a microscopic level.

594
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Speaker 2: No, they also used a macroscopic machine, a kind of

595
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giant pinball device with thousands of marbles, and people could

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influence where the marbles fell, again just by intention. The

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effects were tiny, but they were consistent and repeatable.

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Speaker 1: It's evidence that consciousness can interact directly with the wave

599
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patterns of matter, nudging the probability field.

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Speaker 2: But then you have the accounts that go way beyond

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the lab, the supernormal feats that seem to just completely

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suspend the known laws of physics.

603
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Speaker 1: Like the Dutch psychic Mirran Dojo.

604
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Speaker 2: A truly mind boggling case in nineteen forty seven in Zurich,

605
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in front of doctors and scientists, Dodgo was impaled with

606
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a fencing foil a rape yer. It went straight through

607
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his body through vital organs. No bleeding, no pain, no

608
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internal damage. He even walked around one upstairs for an

609
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X ray with the foil still inside him. Doctors verified it.

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Speaker 1: How is that even?

611
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Speaker 2: I mean, how were the Hawaii Kahunas who are documented

612
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walking on thirteen hundred degree lava flows, or people handling

613
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red hot coals. It suggests that the laws of physics,

614
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the solidity of matter the effects of heat are maybe

615
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not absolute laws, but deeply ingrained collective habits in the

616
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hollow movement, habits that can be temporarily suspended by an

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act of extreme conscious focus.

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Speaker 1: You're essentially changing the informational frequency of reality itself.

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Speaker 2: This capacity to project mental images onto matter also provides

620
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a potential explanation for things like.

621
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Speaker 1: Stigmata, the spontaneous appearance of crucifixion wounds on people like

622
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Padre Pio or Saint Francis the CCI exactly.

623
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Speaker 2: One researcher described it as the mind projecting images outside

624
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itself and impressing them in the soft clay of the

625
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body holographic. The intense belief, the neural hologram of the

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wounds becomes so powerful that it manifests physically.

627
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Speaker 1: So the ultimate takeaway here is something the physicist William

628
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Tiller said. He compared the universe to the holodeck from

629
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Star Trek.

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Speaker 2: It's a great analogy. Tiller said, the universe is a

631
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kind of holodeck, one created by the integration of all

632
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living consciousness, and that we have the ability to shift

633
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the laws so that we're also creating the physics as

634
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we go along. If consciousness is the primary creative agent,

635
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the boundaries of reality are way more flexible than we think.

636
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Speaker 1: And if that's true for space and matter, it must

637
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also be true for time.

638
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Speaker 2: It has to be if the holonomic theory is correct,

639
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our whole concept of linear time needs a complete overhaul.

640
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Boem argued that the past doesn't just cease to exist.

641
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He said, it simply returns to the cosmic storehouse of

642
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the implicate order. It's still there, active and accessible.

643
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Speaker 1: So if the past is still there and folded in

644
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the cosmic hologram. A tuned consciousness should be able to

645
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access it, which.

646
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Speaker 2: Is what we see in the evidence for retrocognition. Psychic

647
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glimpses into.

648
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Speaker 1: The past, like the story of Stuff on Us a

649
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:48,640
Wiki a fascinating case.

650
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Speaker 2: He could take an artifact, a piece of flint, a

651
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shard of pottery, and by holding it he could psychometrize it.

652
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He would see a three dimensional movie of the past.

653
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He could accurately just the age, the culture, the exact

654
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,839
location that came from, often before archaeologist had even confirmed

655
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,279
the data.

656
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Speaker 1: So he was tuning into the information field associated with

657
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that object.

658
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Speaker 2: It seems so he was accessing a record that's preserved

659
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whole in the implicate order. The past hasn't gone, it's

660
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just in a different frequency band.

661
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Speaker 1: Okay, the past is accessible, that's one thing. But what

662
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about the future. That's even more disorienting.

663
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Speaker 2: But the body of evidence for precognition for seeing the

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future is enormous. Much of it comes from the formal

665
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remote viewing research done at the Stanford Research Institute or SRI.

666
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Speaker 1: This is where they'd have a subject try to describe

667
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a location someone was going to visit, but before the

668
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location was even chosen exactly.

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Speaker 2: The most famous case is Hellhamid. She was in the

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lab and she was asked to describe the target that

671
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the experimenter, how put off, would visit thirty minutes from now,

672
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and the target hadn't been randomly selected yet.

673
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Speaker 1: And what did she see?

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Speaker 2: She drew and described a squeaking black iron triangle. After

675
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she logged your description, put off target was randomly chosen

676
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from a pool. He drove to the address and found

677
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himself at a deserted playground, And in the playground was

678
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a black iron swing set a perfect triangle shape that

679
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squeaked rhythmically in the wind.

680
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Speaker 1: She saw an object at a location that hadn't even

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been determined yet. That that shouldn't be possible.

682
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Speaker 2: According to our linear model of time. No, but in

683
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three hundred and thirty four similar trials at the Peer Lab,

684
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subjects achieved sixty two percent accuracy. It strongly suggests the future,

685
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or at least probable futures, are already unfolded in the

686
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implicate order, available to be tuned into.

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Speaker 1: So if we can tune into past and future time,

688
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can we move through space without our bodies? This gets

689
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us to the out of body experience.

690
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Speaker 2: The OBE right, and from a holographic perspective, consciousness is

691
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non local, it's nonware, So the feeling of traveling during

692
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an OBE might just be an illusion. It's really about

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shifting the point of decoding within the universal hologram.

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Speaker 1: And there's some incredible clinical evidence for this to show

695
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it's not just a hallucination. The story of Maria's tennis shoe.

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Speaker 2: I've an amazing account. Maria was a coronary patient who

697
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had a cardiac arrest. While she was clinically dead, she

698
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had an OBE.

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Speaker 1: And she floated out of her body.

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Speaker 2: She described floating out of her room and seeing a

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single tennis shoe on a third floor window ledge of

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the hospital, a place she could have never seen from

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her room. She described it in minute detail, a worn

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hole over the little toe, a shoelace tucked under the heel, and.

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Speaker 1: A social worker, Kimberly Clark, actually went and found it.

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Speaker 2: She climbed out onto the ledge and found the shoe,

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and every single detail Maria had described was exactly correct.

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Speaker 1: So Maria's consciousness, unbound from her physical body, accessed verifiable

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physical information from a distance.

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Speaker 2: Its powerful evidence that consciousness is not contained within the skull,

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and this brings us to the final piece, the near

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death experience or NDE.

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Speaker 1: Which researchers like doctor Kenneth Ring called a journey into

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the frequency aspects of reality.

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Speaker 2: People who have NDEs often report accessing a state of

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total knowledge. They feel like they suddenly understand everything about

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the universe, and they say this information doesn't arrive in

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a line one fact after another. It arrives all at once,

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in non sequential chunks holographic characteristic.

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Speaker 1: The information is everywhere.

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Speaker 2: At once, and the NDE realm itself seems to be holographic.

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It's described as unejective. It molds itself into shapes based

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on the experiencers beliefs. Some see a tunnel, some see

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a bridge, some see religious figures. The underlying reality might

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be the same field of frequency, but the brain translates

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it into culturally familiar holographic images.

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Speaker 1: So whether it's seeing the past, glimpsing the future, moving

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matter with your mind, or traveling outside the body, all

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these phenomena, which are anomalies in the standard model, become

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perfectly consistent if the brain is a decoder for a

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universal holographic field. So we started with that question where

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are your memories? And the synthesis of pre Bremen Bohm

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leads to this absolutely radical conclusion. The brain is not

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a storage facility. It is a lens, a biological machine

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that mathematically constructs our reality by decoding a symphony of

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frequencies from the hollow movement, a dimension where all time

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and all information are unfolded forever.

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Speaker 2: And that forces a total philosophical shift away from materialism.

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It's summed up perfectly by the psychologist Keith Floyd, who said,

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it may not be the brain that produces consciousness, but

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rather consciousness that creates the appearance of the brain, matter, space, time,

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and everything else we are pleased to interpret as the

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physical universe.

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Speaker 1: Wow, if our memories, our bodies, even the laws of

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physics are just pliable, frequency based constructs, then we are

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living in a universe that is far more participatory, far

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more interconnected than we ever imagine, which.

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Speaker 2: Leads us with a really hard question, the one you

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have to just sit with for a while. What's it

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if your life, your memories, your thoughts aren't actually sealed

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inside your skull, but are distributed non locally across the

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entire cosmos. Yeah, then every time you think a thought,

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are you really generating something new and personal or are

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you just reaching out and resonating with a piece of

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universal knowledge that is already there is.

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Speaker 1: The entire history of the universe, as accessible as that

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name that's on the tip of your tongue.

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Speaker 2: That's the question.

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Speaker 1: Does this radical perspective change how you view your own mind,

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your identity, and your place in the universe. Let us

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know what you think. Join the conversation and tell us

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your stand on the holonomic brain theory. We'll be checking

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the threads