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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, how you doing. Come on in and have a seat.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Cliff, your host of Destiny, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing well today. We have a new book we're

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<v Speaker 2>featuring this week called Manifestation Perfected Six Steps to Embody

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<v Speaker 2>your Soul Purpose and the author is Baptiste Pope, who

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<v Speaker 2>wrote a best selling book about ten years ago eight

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<v Speaker 2>years ago called The Power of the Heart, which went

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<v Speaker 2>viral on YouTube but also was a best selling book

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times bestselling book that he made into a

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<v Speaker 2>movie kind of in the same vein as The Secret,

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<v Speaker 2>But the Power of the Heart series had at Kartoli,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Zukoff and had a number of prominent Oh, Deepak Chopra,

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<v Speaker 2>had a number of prominent people. I think Wayne Dyer

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<v Speaker 2>actually was in there. He hadn't passed away yet. This

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<v Speaker 2>is like twenty ten and very very prominent book, and

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<v Speaker 2>this new book on manifestation kind of comes out of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And what he's focusing on is something that I have

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<v Speaker 2>learned as I've gotten older, which is when you are

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<v Speaker 2>in complete harmony, when you are lined up with your

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<v Speaker 2>higher self otherwise known as your soul. You can accomplish

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<v Speaker 2>it pretty much anything. And that's everything from more prosperity,

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<v Speaker 2>your soulmate, slash, your a good relationship, just a much

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<v Speaker 2>more happy and harmonious life. And that's what I think

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<v Speaker 2>most of us are achieving. The problem, and he talks

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<v Speaker 2>about this in this book today, is that when we

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<v Speaker 2>are setting our goals, some of our goals are sorry

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<v Speaker 2>to say it's they're childish. I want to win the lottery.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fanciest car, even though I can't afford the payments. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to, you know, buy a house, so forth and

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<v Speaker 2>so on. Sometimes you're not ready. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 2>is when. And this is what we're going to learn

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<v Speaker 2>about today. When you have your higher self and your soul,

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<v Speaker 2>which is your soul I should say, harmonizing you and

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<v Speaker 2>working with you, you're hearing this purpose, the soul language

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<v Speaker 2>in your intentions, then your your goals are much different.

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<v Speaker 2>They're more filling, and they're more satisfying, and they lead

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<v Speaker 2>to a quality of life that is just wonderful. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny because I hate to say it, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've had some successes as a younger person, but I

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<v Speaker 2>was always miserable because you know, even though I worked

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<v Speaker 2>in some really cool companies here in northern California, I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a corporate kind of a person. And I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize that until after I got the job I really

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<v Speaker 2>had had.

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<v Speaker 1>Programmed for.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, prayed and did my manifestation techniques. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't happy. And you know, here I have the great

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<v Speaker 2>salary and the car and the place and thinking it's

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<v Speaker 2>all great, and I was miserable. And it's funny because

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<v Speaker 2>I I think I mentioned this years ago, but when

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<v Speaker 2>I started doing this personal growth wellness ancient civilization material

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<v Speaker 2>this theme, I mean, I had always had the heart's

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<v Speaker 2>desire to talk about it, to do a wide band

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<v Speaker 2>kind of an outreach to find the best minds, guys

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<v Speaker 2>like Hancock and Shock, and you know, you listen to

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<v Speaker 2>Earth ancients of destiny, we get the best of the best.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that was a younger person. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>got into corporate life after I got out of college,

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<v Speaker 2>and for the most part, when I was working for

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<v Speaker 2>other people, that was miserable. And when you work on

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<v Speaker 2>a big, big company. I worked at PayPal for a

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<v Speaker 2>few years. I was making amazing money, but it was miserable.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so unhappy, and so I ended up quitting.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was working for a conference, Whole Life Expo,

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<v Speaker 2>and I built relationships with all of these who's who

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<v Speaker 2>types because I wanted to hear what they had to say,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted people to hear what they say what

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<v Speaker 2>they had to say. So I was, in many ways

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<v Speaker 2>a facilitator at a young age, and this is what's

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<v Speaker 2>transpired now as a podcast host, I'm a facilitator. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>facilitating with my with my team Gail and others, guests

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<v Speaker 2>who have something to say about living in this reality.

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<v Speaker 2>But more than that, it's offering and I say this

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<v Speaker 2>a lot tools for transformation. And this is what I've

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<v Speaker 2>been always preaching in a way when I was a

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<v Speaker 2>program director for these conferences, was that people need to

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<v Speaker 2>be impacted because you know, in the personal growth fields,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of fluff. A lot of people collect

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<v Speaker 2>your money and they just have fluff to present. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've been in this over thirty years and

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it all. And that's why there's certain subjects

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<v Speaker 2>I won't even go, you know there, because I just

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<v Speaker 2>noticed it's fluff. But my point is that this is

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<v Speaker 2>material that is impactful. I'm hoping it's impactful. And I

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<v Speaker 2>get a lot of letters and information from you the

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<v Speaker 2>listener about what they're what the programs are all about,

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<v Speaker 2>and how you like them. But we're always trying to

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<v Speaker 2>evolve the material and so ultimately working as a podcast

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<v Speaker 2>host is very fulfilling and it's very rewarding. It's very

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<v Speaker 2>challenging at times because it's a lot of work, but

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<v Speaker 2>I as a as an artist, it's a form of art.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an artistic endeavor to pull it. Every every show

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<v Speaker 2>together from a blank canvas. I take a blank canvas

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<v Speaker 2>and we put an interview in there. We put a

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<v Speaker 2>series of musical pieces, We put information uh that I

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<v Speaker 2>hope is impactful. And when it's impactful, you you are

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<v Speaker 2>being influenced, and I'm hoping that it's on a positive scale.

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<v Speaker 2>But today's program is all about using your intention. And

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<v Speaker 2>what I like about the theme is it's not just random,

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<v Speaker 2>spontaneous intention. Well it can be, but when you're tied

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<v Speaker 2>into your soul and you're working with your soul, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is what the theme of the program is, sol intention,

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<v Speaker 2>you are on fire, you're creating, and you're manifesting the

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<v Speaker 2>highest level, and your soul has has your script that

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<v Speaker 2>you worked out before you came into this body, and

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<v Speaker 2>you worked it out and you are If you flow

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<v Speaker 2>with your soul and you recognize that your soul is

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<v Speaker 2>the way to go, and you're meditating and you're quieting

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<v Speaker 2>your brain and you're staying mentally clear, then the messages

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<v Speaker 2>that are coming through are gonna help, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have intentions of things that you want or

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<v Speaker 2>intend to do, be and aspire to realities that are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be very positive. And so that's the program.

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<v Speaker 2>So today we are featuring a new artist and the

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<v Speaker 2>program is Manifestation Perfected. Six Steps to Embody your Sole Purpose,

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<v Speaker 2>and my guest is Baptiste D.

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<v Speaker 1>Pope.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, if you're interested in ancient culture, ancient history, the buildings,

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<v Speaker 2>the temples, the structures that are left to us from

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<v Speaker 2>our ancestors, consider joining me in Turkey June twenty second

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<v Speaker 2>through July second of this year. We are going to

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<v Speaker 2>visit some of the oldest places on the planet and

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<v Speaker 2>get the up close and personal opportunity to see them,

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<v Speaker 2>not only through the eyes of the local archaeologists who

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<v Speaker 2>are excavate these places, but from a perspective that no

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<v Speaker 2>one else can have, which is these are old prehistory

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<v Speaker 2>in our face. What makes the Earth Ancients Grand Turkey

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<v Speaker 2>Tour fabulous opportunity is that we don't just visit. We

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<v Speaker 2>also check in with the local archaeological groups. We go

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<v Speaker 2>to the museums that contain the latest evidence of artifacts,

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<v Speaker 2>of sculptures, of buildings, and we get a sense of

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<v Speaker 2>just how old and how important our ancestors were. It

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<v Speaker 2>really looks like go Beckley Teppe, Carahan Teppe, and these

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<v Speaker 2>other sites including darren Kuru and Cappadocia were rebooting sites

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<v Speaker 2>following the Great Devastation. These are places that people would

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<v Speaker 2>go and relearn how to live, how to farm, how

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<v Speaker 2>to do animal husbandream which is cultivate animals, and also

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<v Speaker 2>how to live. And this is my invitation to you

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<v Speaker 2>to come out and join us. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>see the entire itinerary, go to Earth Ancients dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>forward slash Tours and check out all the details. If

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<v Speaker 2>you have any questions whatsoever, send me an email. Send

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<v Speaker 2>it to Earth Ancients the number four the letter you

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<v Speaker 2>at gmail dot com and I will get right back

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<v Speaker 2>to you. Immediately. We're about halfway full. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>a personal limitation to join me in one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best tours of ancient civilizations of Turkey, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>out there. For more information, go to Earth Ancients dot

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<v Speaker 2>com forward slash Tours. We've talked about the soul in

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<v Speaker 2>the past. We've had different authors on the program speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to their dearly departed. Sometimes it was a son, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>a friend who responded back to questioning about what it's

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<v Speaker 2>like to be on the other side, what it's like

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<v Speaker 2>to be without a body. And today we're speaking a

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<v Speaker 2>new author who has written a book on manifesting, but

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<v Speaker 2>not just manifesting and wishing to get what you want

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<v Speaker 2>using specific techniques and most importantly the technique of intention.

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<v Speaker 2>My guest today is Baptiste the Pope. He is the

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<v Speaker 2>author of Manifestation Perfected, Six Steps to Embody your Soul Purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you a little bit about Baptiste.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a lawyer, author and filmmaker. He wrote the

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<v Speaker 2>book The Power of the Heart, which actually was also

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<v Speaker 2>made into a documentary. And I've been kind of gazing

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<v Speaker 2>at this book and he has taken the whole idea

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<v Speaker 2>of manifestation to a new level. And what that means

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<v Speaker 2>is that I think a lot of us suffer through

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out how to get what we want

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<v Speaker 2>out of life. And I think he's distilled it, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's distilled it by traveling the world. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>actually featured on the book. He says that in the

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<v Speaker 2>biography it says that Baptists travel the world speaking to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a number of older souls and interviewing people

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<v Speaker 2>who are the lead thinkers of our time. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to learn all about manifestation today today with his interview.

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<v Speaker 2>So Baptiste, welcome to Destiny. Great to have you on

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<v Speaker 2>the program. Thanks h thank you so much for having me. Clive,

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<v Speaker 2>it's good to see you all right. So, traveling in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. So this idea did it come at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of this movie and this other book, The Power

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<v Speaker 2>of the Heart?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you kind of leave that and think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I have more to talk about on the manifestation side,

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<v Speaker 2>and did you start cultivating the idea for the book

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<v Speaker 2>in that manner?

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<v Speaker 1>So it came to me as a film. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I had the idea to do it, it was I

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<v Speaker 1>am going to make a film about living and working

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<v Speaker 1>from the heart there was, he had to create a book.

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<v Speaker 1>But so I traveled the world and interviewed all these

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<v Speaker 1>luminaries Publoculio, Ekartoli, Debacchopra, may Angelo and so on, and

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that the film was only going to be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nineteen minutes. But with some people like Ekartoli,

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<v Speaker 1>I spent three days with him, I had so much

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<v Speaker 1>more material, and I thought, Okay, how can I share more?

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<v Speaker 1>The only way to share more was to write the book.

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<v Speaker 1>So the book in the film they were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>released at the same time back in twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So the new book, Manifestation perfected. Where is that

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<v Speaker 2>information coming from? Is it coming from your I mean

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<v Speaker 2>because the book features Oprah Winfrey, jk Rawlings, and Anita

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<v Speaker 2>Moore Jana who I was not familiar with, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have read since I've read about her, since I've looked

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<v Speaker 2>at your book. These are three dynamic women. Absolutely, So

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<v Speaker 2>They're not only very dynamic, but they were all three

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<v Speaker 2>of them were really in a rock bottom situation and

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<v Speaker 1>that we are infinite intelligence. And she receives the message

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<v Speaker 1>is that Bwayne Dyer, the late Wayne Dyer, hears about

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<v Speaker 1>see the medical records, like that, did this really happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Because she was cured within forty eight hours from cancer

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<v Speaker 1>within forty eight hours, all the cancer is gone, so

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<v Speaker 1>the doctors in the hospital are confronted with a medical miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>So he gets to see the medical files and indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>this really happened. So he approaches her and he helps

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<v Speaker 1>the title of the book is Dying to be Met.

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<v Speaker 1>so her book Dying to Be Me becomes a New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times bestseller, and it becomes a global best seller

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<v Speaker 1>because I started to align with my essence, my originals,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, soul energy. And the second thing is she said,

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<v Speaker 1>manifestation is it becomes a New York Times bestseller. And

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<v Speaker 1>her point is that all the manifestations come because she

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<v Speaker 1>was authentically being herself. And she says the two biggest

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<v Speaker 1>messages that she has for us is we have to

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<v Speaker 1>treasure our own magnificence. And the second message is if

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<v Speaker 1>you align with the energy of your soul, that everything

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<v Speaker 1>that truly belongs to you comes to you effortlessly. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's such a powerful way to look look

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<v Speaker 1>at a manifestation. You know, we have to become authentically

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<v Speaker 1>with the energy of our soul, and then everything that

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tell us in your what you're understanding is

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<v Speaker 2>and what the soul is. We're all locked into this

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<v Speaker 2>flesh body, you know, and worrying about feeling good and

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<v Speaker 2>having hunger pains and having addictions and being ill and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not knowing what's going on. What is the

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<v Speaker 2>soul and your understanding?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? It? Cartholi talks about the pain body, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the personality, the ego to traumas, but that's not who

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<v Speaker 1>we really are. We are in essence, formless and we

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<v Speaker 1>are having temporarily, temporarily we are having a physical experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are souls who are in a body for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, but once we quote unquote die, our soul

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<v Speaker 1>leaves the body. But we still exist, only in a

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<v Speaker 1>hard to describe something that is formless. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>study near death experiences, I mean there's so many. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at the work of Raymond Moody, Elizabeth Koble Ross, look

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<v Speaker 1>at the story of even Alexander, but also Anita Morghini.

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<v Speaker 1>They describe that it's the dimension of love. Anita Mrghanni

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<v Speaker 1>calls it unconditional love, infinite intelligence. There is no time,

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<v Speaker 1>so time does not exist. So it's an experience maybe

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<v Speaker 1>of a very high, very loving vibration, but it's our essence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and how can we I think, you know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to experience it. But every time we have the feeling

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<v Speaker 1>of grade, of coming home energetically, of feeling love, of combassion,

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<v Speaker 1>reverence for life, those feelings, I think we get close

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<v Speaker 1>to the essence of the soul. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason I'm asking that, Baptiste, is that your book,

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<v Speaker 2>this book we're talking about today, Manifestation Perfected, highlights the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the greatest manifestations happen when we use soul intention.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a real key word for me because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always like, oh, yeah, I'm going to intend to have

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<v Speaker 2>this done. I'm going to intend I really want that

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. I want to close my eyes and intend

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<v Speaker 2>to have it happen. Right, And what you have learned

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<v Speaker 2>and what you talk about in your book is that

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<v Speaker 2>there's different kinds of intention. There's the casual intentions, but

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<v Speaker 2>the soul level intentions are the ones who are the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest and the most beautiful manifestations, the ones that you

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<v Speaker 2>really need. Yes, absolutely talk a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, Gary Zukafe, he wrote a book, The Seat

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<v Speaker 1>of the Soul. I think it's one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>books about the soul. Actually, he writes about the concept

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<v Speaker 1>of authentic power. And authentic power is when the personality

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<v Speaker 1>starts to serve the energy of the soul. And when

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<v Speaker 1>we start to serve the energy of the soul, we

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<v Speaker 1>start to experience a holistic dimension. We experience reverence for life,

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<v Speaker 1>bigger is showing us the way and carrying us, we

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<v Speaker 1>start to experience synchronicities. And synchronicity is of course a

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<v Speaker 1>when you immediately know that this is not a coincidence,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's power, there's purpose, there's meaning behind what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you feel much lighter, You feel like you are

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<v Speaker 1>much more than your body. And we all recognize those moments.

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<v Speaker 1>But that means that we are actually serving the energy

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<v Speaker 1>of our soul. And I think it's really important to

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<v Speaker 1>So I always use this metaphor when you are on

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<v Speaker 1>a boat on the river, and when you are the personality,

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<v Speaker 1>the personality can only see the next band on the river,

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<v Speaker 1>but when you are the soul, you can see everything

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<v Speaker 1>from the bird's eye view, and the soul can see

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<v Speaker 1>the whole journey from source to sea, so it sees

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<v Speaker 1>everything from a much higher perspective. But our problem is

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<v Speaker 1>we don't trust the soul. And yeah, we can only

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<v Speaker 1>learn to trust it by experiment back, by experimenting with

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<v Speaker 1>this energy of the soul. And you know, when we

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<v Speaker 1>pros and all the cons and take into consideration all

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<v Speaker 1>the rational stuff, but it's also important to take into

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<v Speaker 1>And that's more the language of the soul.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you the book has uh and we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>With the soul level.

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<v Speaker 2>Also developing uh, the method of intending yes for what

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<v Speaker 2>which is understanding the inner dimensions of the soul and

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<v Speaker 2>manifest with the soul intent rather than the casual intent,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like hey, I want a million bucks, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to intend for that. Well, and you write about

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<v Speaker 2>this the soul is kind of going. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>more in alignment for you to have prosperity, but you

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<v Speaker 2>work for it, you know, not like you're looking to

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<v Speaker 2>get the winning you know whatever they call those things

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<v Speaker 2>the ten million dollar lottery card, which is so mundane

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's not really a spiritual goal, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, what you're presenting is a way to

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<v Speaker 2>tune into the soul and have it come through you

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<v Speaker 2>in a meditative process, and then you develop an intention

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<v Speaker 2>that has more purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So if you want ten million bucks, you can

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<v Speaker 1>ask yourself, why do I want ten million bucks? Right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you know. In two thousand and six

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<v Speaker 1>there was a film it became very popular, in The Secret,

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<v Speaker 1>right from Romina Byrne. And interesting fact is that the

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<v Speaker 1>And I also I as a producer for the Power

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<v Speaker 1>of the Heart, hired him for the Power of the Heart.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Power of the Heart and The Secret have

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<v Speaker 1>the same director. So I had all these conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>him about manifesting an intention, and in The Secret it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about the law of attraction. But they don't ask

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<v Speaker 1>the question where is the intention to manifest something coming from?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it coming from your higher self or your personality?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that is a very important question, where

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<v Speaker 1>is the intention coming from? Because the intentions that are

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<v Speaker 1>coming from your personality or let's say your ego are

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<v Speaker 1>not coming are not necessarily coming from your higher self.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean another important question that I could ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff you have manifested so much in your life, and

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<v Speaker 1>you had many intentions, but sometimes, you know, some intentions

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out for you and others became successful. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the question is why did certain things work out

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<v Speaker 1>for you? And why did certain things not work out

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<v Speaker 1>for you? Did you ever think about that? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors

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<v Speaker 2>guest today Baptist Pup and this new book Manifestation Perfected.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back. Our program today features soul level manifestation,

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<v Speaker 2>intending using the soul's purpose of your incarnation in this lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>My guess is Baptist d. Polpe in the book called

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<v Speaker 2>Manifestation Perfected. Oh yeah, I mean, I have been in

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<v Speaker 2>metaphysics for most of my adult life. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there are different authors and different speakers so called gurus.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not defined as gurus, but people recognize them as

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd say half of them didn't work because there

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<v Speaker 2>are other underlining motivations and desires that got involved, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like having all the money, having the perfect relationship, having

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<v Speaker 2>the new car. I mean, they're all monetary, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm in the West, and we're all about getting money,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, we're not so much about Hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to feel great and I want to have an

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<v Speaker 2>elegant day, and I want to, you know, recognize this

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<v Speaker 2>as a beautiful place. You know, that kind of intention

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<v Speaker 2>and manifestation is not good enough for most of the

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<v Speaker 2>Western culture because we're so locked into having possessions.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I think we are hypnotized by the material world

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<v Speaker 1>in a way. But Cartola says it very well. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>the material world is inherently fleeting. Right, So it's it's

430
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<v Speaker 1>it's my it's an illusion. It's temporary, it's it's it's

431
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<v Speaker 1>it's just a temporary experience, right, It's not who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's very important to ask the question, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>where's the intention coming from? And I know just I

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<v Speaker 1>mean from my own experience. I wanted to become a lawyer,

435
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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted wanted to become a partner with a

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<v Speaker 1>big international law firm, and I worked there. But when

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<v Speaker 1>I was when I was there, I was like, something

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<v Speaker 1>is off. I had the brains to do it, but

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<v Speaker 1>energetically I felt disconnected from from from from myliveness in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, and and I was like, what is this?

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<v Speaker 1>I worked for this to get here, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be here. And I started to explore, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how can I find my purpose in life? Right? Because

444
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<v Speaker 1>that that's what it's it's it's it's about finding your

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<v Speaker 1>purpose in life? Why are you here? As long as

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<v Speaker 1>you have life, you have intentions? And I started to

447
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<v Speaker 1>google how can you find your purpose in life? And

448
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<v Speaker 1>I stumbled upon a video where Oprah Winfrey was in

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Eckart Tolly. And the video started with Oprah saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's nothing more important than finding your purpose

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<v Speaker 1>in life. Why are you here? Right? That question? And

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<v Speaker 1>Eckart said yes, but he said you cannot get there

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<v Speaker 1>through thinking. And he said, if you want to find

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to this question, you can ask what do

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<v Speaker 1>I want? What do I want? So that that would

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<v Speaker 1>come from the personality, what does the personality want? But

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<v Speaker 1>the more powerful question would be what does life want

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<v Speaker 1>from me? So life is a source or the soul,

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<v Speaker 1>But ask the question what does life want from me?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get close to what your soul wants.

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<v Speaker 1>And so again, my personality wanted to become a partner

462
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<v Speaker 1>with the big law firm and be a hotshot lawyer

463
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<v Speaker 1>make a lot of money. But my soul wanted something

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<v Speaker 1>totally different. And but I started to notice when I

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<v Speaker 1>started listening to my soul, and when I started to

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<v Speaker 1>meditate on the question what does life want from me?

467
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<v Speaker 1>I started to feel aliveness. I started to come alive,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I was like, wow, this is really

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Alignment with the soul is to me, the

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<v Speaker 1>highest form of abundance, because it is your liveness, it

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<v Speaker 1>is your essence, it's to who you really are. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can have all the money in the world. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're disconnected from your liveness, from your source, from

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<v Speaker 1>your soul, you are not experiencing abundance or wealth. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought, okay, And so when I started meditating

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<v Speaker 1>on the question, it took me a while, but the

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<v Speaker 1>answer that came, and when it came, it came like

478
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<v Speaker 1>a bang. It felt like coming home, It felt like race.

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<v Speaker 1>The answer was you have to make a film about

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<v Speaker 1>the heart. So when the answer came, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>very clear, It felt like falling in love. It was

482
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<v Speaker 1>so graceful, and it's felt like coming home. And I

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<v Speaker 1>had this Hallelujah feeling, Okay, this is it. But of course,

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<v Speaker 1>after a while, my mind started to begin in a mindset, Okay,

485
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<v Speaker 1>you're a lawyer, so you don't know anything about the heart.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know anything about film production. I had no

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<v Speaker 1>background in film production. But I also remembered what Martin

488
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<v Speaker 1>Luther King had said. He said, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>see the whole staircase, just take the first step. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, listening to the soul. Following the

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<v Speaker 1>soul is about following your liveness, what makes you come alive.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you start to follow that, the sinker iniciencies happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Something greater is supporting you, something greater is showing you

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<v Speaker 1>the way. You will start to feel that there's power,

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<v Speaker 1>there's purpose, there's meaning beyond everything you do. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you feel the fullness of life. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the highest form of abundance is the fullness of life.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can only experience the fullness of life when

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<v Speaker 1>your personality starts to serve the energy of the soul,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can find the energy the intensities of the soul.

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<v Speaker 1>I think only through opening your heart, because when we

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<v Speaker 1>are born, we don't get the manual. When you were born,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't get the manual. This is what your soul

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do, and rational linear logical education cannot help

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<v Speaker 1>you with that. Okay, So when we when we go

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<v Speaker 1>through the education system, we get zero answers about how

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<v Speaker 1>what our soul wants. We can only connect with what

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<v Speaker 1>our soul wants with our elements in a way, when

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<v Speaker 1>we open our hearts and we start to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>what makes us come alive. I mean, for a bird,

511
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<v Speaker 1>it's very clear. The element of a bird is to fly,

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<v Speaker 1>the element of a fish is to swim. But what

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<v Speaker 1>is our elements? And everyone has has their own specific

514
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<v Speaker 1>soul imprint, own own specific blueprint, and we can only

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<v Speaker 1>get there when we get out of our minds, when

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<v Speaker 1>we open our heart and we start to feel the

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<v Speaker 1>liveness that we are, when we start to experience that. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>In the introduction to your book, you write, when your

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<v Speaker 2>intent is in accord with the universe, things start happening.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when manifest manifest manifesting happens at the highest level.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to ask you about that because you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about being in rhythm. Here in the book, it's accord.

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<v Speaker 1>Education.

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<v Speaker 2>Our colleges don't teach us about being in harmony, Our

525
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>religions don't really talk about it at all. Are most

526
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<v Speaker 2>people just kind of guessing their way through? Or the

527
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<v Speaker 2>very few lucky ones that you highlighted in the book,

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<v Speaker 2>these three women, did they have help or did they

529
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<v Speaker 2>just have a soul that was so overpowering It just

530
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<v Speaker 2>kind of took them on a ride and that was

531
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<v Speaker 2>it for them. They had to follow along. It's always

532
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<v Speaker 2>a crisis, you see, I need more, Johnny. You know,

533
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<v Speaker 2>she was dying, and I mean that's the I mean,

534
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<v Speaker 2>you can get beyond dying, right, I mean if you die,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's like the ultim ultimate bottom situation in

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<v Speaker 2>a way.

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<v Speaker 1>And the title of a book is dying to be me.

538
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<v Speaker 1>And so she was freed from her body and she

539
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<v Speaker 1>connected with her essence, the soul. And when she was

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<v Speaker 1>completely aligned with her soul, all the insights came about

541
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<v Speaker 1>what had happened and who she was, and she realized

542
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<v Speaker 1>that she was never authentically herself. She realized that it's

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<v Speaker 1>our job to treasure our own magnificence and what is

544
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:35.639
<v Speaker 1>our magnificence. That's the energy of the soul, and it's

545
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<v Speaker 1>our job to tap into the energy of the soul

546
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and then everything that really belongs to us comes to

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<v Speaker 1>us effortlessly. And that's also my experience. I mean, think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. You know, from my personality, the highest thing

549
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.760
<v Speaker 1>that I could achieve with my life was become a

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer with the big international law firm where I was working.

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<v Speaker 1>That I mean that that would have been my life.

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<v Speaker 1>But what happened is I started to listen to my

553
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<v Speaker 1>soul through a crisis situation because I felt cut off

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<v Speaker 1>from my life. Is I think the biggest melody of

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<v Speaker 1>her time is a lot of soul, and I started

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<v Speaker 1>to follow the energy. And what happened I did the

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<v Speaker 1>power of the heart, and I didn't know what was

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. And nobody believed that this was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a success. My family certainly didn't believe that.

560
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<v Speaker 1>And the book came out in eighty countries. Simon and Schuster,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest publisher in the United States, bought the world

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<v Speaker 1>rights and the book was published in eighty countries in

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<v Speaker 1>forty five languages. It became an international bestseller. I could

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<v Speaker 1>not have imagined that right. I had no interest in

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<v Speaker 1>writing books or producing films zero and I had no

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<v Speaker 1>background in it. But I just had the courage to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to that energy of the soul. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>because I had nothing to lose. I said, I followed

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<v Speaker 1>my mind, I followed my personality my whole life. I

570
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<v Speaker 1>went to law school, I did everything by the book

571
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<v Speaker 1>and it didn't make me happy. And I'm just gonna

572
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<v Speaker 1>give this a shot, right, and then the miracles started

573
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<v Speaker 1>to happen. I had the privilege of interviewing the late

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Maya Angelo in her home in Winston Salem, California.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she is an icon, and she was an icon.

576
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<v Speaker 1>She passed in twenty thirteen. All those people, Eckartoli, Paulo Qualia,

577
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<v Speaker 1>the author of The Alchemist, they all opened their doors

578
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<v Speaker 1>for me, and I was nobody. So I really think

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't have a choice. But what I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>from interviewing all these people is they don't change unless

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<v Speaker 1>they're a crisis. When there's a crisis, they are forced

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<v Speaker 1>into another awareness because the linear, rational logical thinking cannot

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<v Speaker 1>help them anymore. Good example is Ekarta. He was doing

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<v Speaker 1>his PhD at Cambridge, and he was suicidal and he said,

585
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<v Speaker 1>I cannot live with myself anymore. At that moment, he

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<v Speaker 1>realized that there were two and I and myself. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you have that realization that there are too, then

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<v Speaker 1>you start to connect with the question of course, who

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<v Speaker 1>am I really? Am I the personality, the body, the ego,

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<v Speaker 1>or am I the higher self, the soul? And when

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<v Speaker 1>you start to align with that energy, and you really

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00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 1>do the work of align with that energy, life starts

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<v Speaker 1>to flow for you. I'm not saying that there are

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<v Speaker 1>no more challenges, but I am saying that those challenges

595
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<v Speaker 1>will bring you closer to your soul. It's like diamonds

596
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>become diamonds under pressure. So sometimes the things that we

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00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:51.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want to experience are actually tools that help us.

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<v Speaker 1>So And what I also want to say is the

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<v Speaker 1>soul is very ambitious. I mean, that's my experience. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying we all have to become an Oprah Winfrey

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<v Speaker 1>or a JK. Rowling or Anita Mr Johnny, But I

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<v Speaker 1>am saying if you start to honor the whisper of

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<v Speaker 1>your soul, you start to feel the fullness of life,

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<v Speaker 1>You start to feel the deeper eye and you will

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<v Speaker 1>start to feel such an abundance and such a satisfaction already,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you just start to follow the live is

607
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<v Speaker 1>that you start to trust your life. I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most important things that we have to develop

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<v Speaker 1>is courage. Encourage is derived from the word kur in French,

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<v Speaker 1>care means hard, and the courage is also derived from

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<v Speaker 1>the Latin word core and core also means hard. So

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<v Speaker 1>in order to follow our heart, we need to develop

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<v Speaker 1>hard in a way, right, and that's courage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fascinating. I want you to describe a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more about the intention. What's the difference between a

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<v Speaker 2>self serving intention and a pure soul level intention. You

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of explained it, but I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>come tighten a little tighter for people who are still

619
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<v Speaker 2>kind of getting their head around the fact that I

620
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<v Speaker 2>do wish for things vaguely, but when I really want something,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm being guided by my higher self or my

622
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<v Speaker 2>soul to manifest a really important intention in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we have to be open for the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that things. I was a lawyer in the city of

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<v Speaker 2>Amsterdam with a big international law firm. I had zero

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<v Speaker 2>background in spirituality.

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<v Speaker 1>The hard or film production. But I just start to

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<v Speaker 1>meditate on the question what does life want from me?

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<v Speaker 1>And when you start to do that, another dimension opens up. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got the idea the download you have to

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<v Speaker 1>make a film about the heart, it didn't make any

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<v Speaker 1>sense from who I was at the time. I was

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<v Speaker 1>the least I was not. I was not the right

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<v Speaker 1>person to do this, you know, from my mind. But

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<v Speaker 1>the energetic pool was so strong that I was like,

636
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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm willing to this is so good, this

637
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<v Speaker 1>feels so good. I'm willing to die for this. And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this sounds a little bit, you know, maybe you know,

639
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:35.039
<v Speaker 1>people think, oh, he wants to die for this, but

640
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<v Speaker 1>that's how I felt. I was like, this makes me

641
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<v Speaker 1>so happy, I want to do this. I also noticed

642
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<v Speaker 1>this with Paulo Coelias. I think you maybe have heard

643
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<v Speaker 1>about the book The Alchemist or read the book. Yeah,

644
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<v Speaker 1>So The Alchemist is about the boy Santiago, who was

645
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<v Speaker 1>a shepherd boy and he goes into the world and

646
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:59.119
<v Speaker 1>he wants to make his fortune, but he discovers something

647
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<v Speaker 1>much deeper than that, uh a fortune. He discovers the

648
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<v Speaker 1>soul and the heart, and and and and and and

649
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<v Speaker 1>so on. But The book is a great book. I

650
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<v Speaker 1>think it's over one hundred million copies. But Paulo Cowell,

651
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.360
<v Speaker 1>when he was a kid, he already knew that he

652
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<v Speaker 1>wanted to write. And his father, was a successful businessman,

653
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<v Speaker 1>said no, Paolo, you're not going to become an author

654
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<v Speaker 1>in Brazil. He's from Brazil. You cannot make a living

655
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<v Speaker 1>as an author. It's impossible. And they litered everything to

656
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<v Speaker 1>make him stop writing. And and then he wrote a

657
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<v Speaker 1>book about it. There there are there are films made

658
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<v Speaker 1>about his story. And he had to find his family

659
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<v Speaker 1>in order to become an author. And but he knew

660
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<v Speaker 1>that this was his element, and I think it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It be important that you start to feel what brings

662
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<v Speaker 1>me into a state or flow. When do I feel,

663
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<v Speaker 1>you know, the grace of life? When do I feel

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<v Speaker 1>the fullness of life? Because that's very close to why

665
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<v Speaker 1>you're here. That's what your element is. And a lot

666
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 1>of people need validation, they need like proof, what what's

667
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<v Speaker 1>going to happen if I follow this a life? Is

668
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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen when I feel this fullness of life?

669
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<v Speaker 1>When I follow that? A lot of people become like, oh,

670
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<v Speaker 1>how can I trust this? But you know, I think

671
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<v Speaker 1>if you are in a crisis and you see this

672
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<v Speaker 1>with Oprah and JK. Rowling, and especially with Ante Mojani,

673
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 1>you have no more choice than to trust it. And

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it was just I don't want that life anymore,

675
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just gonna give this a shot. And I

676
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<v Speaker 1>think the best thing you can do is start experimenting,

677
00:46:55.239 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 1>and if it's really the soul, then you will be guided,

678
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you will be supported, the right people will come, you

679
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.760
<v Speaker 1>will have the synchronicities, you will feel supported, you will

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<v Speaker 1>feel that there's a power and purpose and meaning behind

681
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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I was thinking, you're talking about making

683
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<v Speaker 2>a movie. The finances, the money that is needed, is

684
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<v Speaker 2>that would be intimidating by itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this movie, this documentary has cost two million US dollar.

686
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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't have that kind of money at

687
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<v Speaker 1>the time. No, Yeah, amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

689
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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

690
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:50.679
<v Speaker 2>with my guest today, Baptiste the Pope, discussing a new

691
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:58.239
<v Speaker 2>book he's just released called Manifestation Perfected. We will return shortly.

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<v Speaker 2>My guest today is Baptiste de Poulp. He is the

693
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<v Speaker 2>author of Manifestation Perfected, Six Steps to Embody your Soul

694
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<v Speaker 2>Purpose and this is a new book on using intention

695
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:51.159
<v Speaker 2>on a soul level to manifest what you want in

696
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:56.639
<v Speaker 2>your life. Let's talk about the chapters. You break it

697
00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.920
<v Speaker 2>into six sections, and I'm going to briefly go through

698
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<v Speaker 2>so each one and you can maybe give us a

699
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<v Speaker 2>highlight of why you have created these sections. The first

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<v Speaker 2>one is recognized that you are a soul and not

701
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<v Speaker 2>just a body. Now we've already talked about that obviously,

702
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:23.079
<v Speaker 2>and absolutely you provide information and insights on how to

703
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<v Speaker 2>recognize your soul. And it's still as I'm speaking to

704
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:30.960
<v Speaker 2>you right now, understanding the soul and not the body

705
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<v Speaker 2>is I think the biggest problem that most people have

706
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<v Speaker 2>when you say.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the body is a reflection of our

708
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<v Speaker 1>alignment with the soul. And I think the best proof

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact that we are souls is in studying

710
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and near death experiences. If you're describing that we are

711
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<v Speaker 1>in essence, formless and life doesn't stop after we leave

712
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:07.199
<v Speaker 1>the body, and they all describe the experience of unconditional love,

713
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<v Speaker 1>the higher intelligence. Some talk about infinite intelligence. But that's

714
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<v Speaker 1>who we really are, and we cannot grasp that intellectually.

715
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we have to experience it. I mean, this

716
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 1>is everything that I'm talking about is not something you

717
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:32.159
<v Speaker 1>can grasp conceptually. You have to have the experience of

718
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 1>felt presence of the soul. I think there's no other way, yes,

719
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>because otherwise this doesn't make any sense. You you you

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<v Speaker 1>have to look for ways to experience it. And on

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, we all know the experience of flow

722
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<v Speaker 1>when when you look at the tennis match. I love

723
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<v Speaker 1>to watch tennis when two people are completely in sync

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<v Speaker 1>and and and that's why we love to watch it,

725
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<v Speaker 1>because something is happening on the court when we watch it.

726
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<v Speaker 1>That's why we love to watch sports. There's something because

727
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<v Speaker 1>there's so much focus and intensity right there. And sometimes

728
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<v Speaker 1>when players are in flow, it's magical to watch them.

729
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody love to watch Michael Jordan back when

730
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<v Speaker 1>he was playing for the Bulls in the nineties because

731
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<v Speaker 1>he was in such a flow, in such a state

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<v Speaker 1>of focus. And I think I think that's very I

733
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 1>mean obviously playing basketball was his element, right, Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>there's something that we recognize on a deeper level. That

735
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<v Speaker 1>that's who we truly are. Yeah. So I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have to look for those moments when we are experiencing flow,

737
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:47.000
<v Speaker 1>when we feel that we are more than our body.

738
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<v Speaker 1>And some people have it when they play the piano.

739
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Other people have it when they dance. Other people have

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00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.599
<v Speaker 1>it when they are writing. Other people have it when

741
00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:58.559
<v Speaker 1>they're walking in nature with their dogs. You have to

742
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:02.760
<v Speaker 1>look for, Okay, when do I feel the connection with

743
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>my liveness? Exactly? Yeah? I know. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The next section is align yourself with your soul, not

745
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:21.679
<v Speaker 2>with the outside world demands. And I think that's what

746
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:23.920
<v Speaker 2>we a lot of us get caught in our nine

747
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 2>to five existence and we lose track of our soul.

748
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<v Speaker 1>What you say, Yeah, I mean we get caught up

749
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 1>in the red rage. And again, when you have a

750
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.960
<v Speaker 1>happy life and when you go to work, and when

751
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<v Speaker 1>you when you watch TV television every night and you

752
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<v Speaker 1>you follow the mainstream narrative and everything and you're just

753
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:50.559
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote happy, there's no reason to talk about the soul.

754
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:53.119
<v Speaker 1>All the people that are the I've interviews for the

755
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Powerful Heart, but also the situations of Jack your Rowling,

756
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:59.519
<v Speaker 1>Oprah Winfrey, and and I need to mark Johnny. They

757
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:03.639
<v Speaker 1>wear a situation where they really felt like, Okay, you know,

758
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I have to approach this in a different way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Oprah was living in Mississippi, uh, you know, and and

760
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>she was as poor as you can be without having

761
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<v Speaker 1>a roof over your head. In her own words, she

762
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:20.199
<v Speaker 1>was big fed and ugly and her parents only came

763
00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:23.079
<v Speaker 1>together one time, and that's when you know. She was made.

764
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<v Speaker 1>And her mother was a maid, her grandmother was a maid,

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<v Speaker 1>and her grandmother raised her. And she said, Oprah Gail

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<v Speaker 1>because her specond name was Gaile Oprah Gail, I hope

767
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 1>you find yourself some nice white folks to work for.

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<v Speaker 1>So her expectation was to become a maid as well,

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<v Speaker 1>for white folks. And she didn't have a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>live for. But she was also a member of the

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist Church in Mississippi, and she was very irreligious. She

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<v Speaker 1>believed in God, and she started praying to God and said, God,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a lot to live for, Please you me,

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<v Speaker 1>use me, use me. And because because of that prayer,

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<v Speaker 1>she started to align with something larger. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no other explanation. How how are you going to explain

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<v Speaker 1>that a girl who was born in those circumstances become

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<v Speaker 1>one one of becomes one of the most influential figures

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<v Speaker 1>of our time. Yeah, it's because she connected with the

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00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 1>higher source, higher intelligence. Yeah, and she gave up her

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00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:29.840
<v Speaker 1>life to that higher intelligence. But nobody's talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did she talk about techniques that she developed on her own?

783
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<v Speaker 2>Or did I know? She was really a big support

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<v Speaker 2>of e Cartoli when he came out. I mean, he

785
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:43.360
<v Speaker 2>was on her show a lot, So I would think

786
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:48.599
<v Speaker 2>that she was constantly looking for people that developed techniques

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<v Speaker 2>that helped her keys in alignment with her soul.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I mean Oprah was very much influenced by the

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<v Speaker 1>work of Carrie Zukav and the soul I mean Gary

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<v Speaker 1>where the shows with her and on television with Eckert.

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<v Speaker 1>She recently did the show with Eckert again, and Eckard's

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<v Speaker 1>question what does life want from me? Is of course

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<v Speaker 1>the same question that she asked when she was a

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<v Speaker 1>young girl back in Mississippi. She asked the question, you know, God,

795
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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a lot to live for use me.

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<v Speaker 1>So she immediately recognized that both Eckert and Gary are

797
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<v Speaker 1>talking about aligning with a higher power. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Gary and Eckart are both intellectuals, and they gave her

799
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<v Speaker 1>the words to explain to herself what had happened to her, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they gave her the vocabulary. And so because I think

801
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<v Speaker 1>she never understood her own success until she started to

802
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:02.079
<v Speaker 1>read The Seat of the Soul, I mean, yeah, yeah, excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to quickly go over the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay aligned, no matter what anyone says. So that's that's

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00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:15.719
<v Speaker 2>a that's pretty self explanation for it. So, but identify

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00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:18.920
<v Speaker 2>the intentions of your soul. This is one that you

807
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<v Speaker 2>bring up. You have a whole chapter on this, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is for me. Ah, the challenge that I would

809
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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people have is which intentions are

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<v Speaker 2>of the highest order and which intentions are frivolous and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not as critically important as or or support

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00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:50.159
<v Speaker 2>evolution as we're growing, you know what I mean? So,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we how do we identify intentions that are

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<v Speaker 2>coming from the highest good? And you kind of said it,

815
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 2>you said it, where we feel in alignment, when we

816
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<v Speaker 2>feel blessed and energized by the information that's coming through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the soul is always focused on unity, consciousness,

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00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:27.639
<v Speaker 1>reverence for life, cooperation, compassion, grace, gratitude, love. But most

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I think it's the energy of really coming home.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about you know, oh I feel so

821
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<v Speaker 1>happy today. Now, I'm talking about a deeper grace and

822
00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:41.719
<v Speaker 1>joy where you really say, okay, wow, this is the

823
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:45.880
<v Speaker 1>fullness of life. That's the soul. That's the experience of

824
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:48.159
<v Speaker 1>the soul, when you really feel the fullness of life.

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<v Speaker 1>And we all have had these experiences, maybe just a

826
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:54.840
<v Speaker 1>few times in our lives, but we recognize it when

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<v Speaker 1>they come, right. And this energy is not just a

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<v Speaker 1>random energy. It's not neutral in a way. It is

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<v Speaker 1>an energy trying to communicate with you and trying to say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what you're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you.

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00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:18.400
<v Speaker 1>How you how do you let that end? Though?

833
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:21.840
<v Speaker 2>If you're sold, you know, if you're working so hard

834
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:24.360
<v Speaker 2>that you're tired all the time, you're burnt out, or

835
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:28.400
<v Speaker 2>you're drinking too much alcohol, or you are taking drugs

836
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:31.960
<v Speaker 2>and blocking that information from getting through, is it just?

837
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:35.519
<v Speaker 2>And I guess your examples are the three women. You know,

838
00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:38.639
<v Speaker 2>each of them had their own trials and tribulations. At

839
00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:42.480
<v Speaker 2>some point it actually gets through, right, Yeah, So I

840
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.559
<v Speaker 2>mean we talked to. I mean, Oprah started very young

841
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:50.199
<v Speaker 2>because she was born in the worst situation compared to

842
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:54.679
<v Speaker 2>the other two. Right, Yeah, So Jackie Rowling is also interesting.

843
00:58:54.719 --> 00:59:00.760
<v Speaker 2>So she was She's British and she's very intelligent, and

844
00:59:00.840 --> 00:59:04.599
<v Speaker 2>she just like just like, excuse me, Paulo Qualio. She

845
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:07.000
<v Speaker 2>knew as a child that she wanted to become an author,

846
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.920
<v Speaker 2>but of course her parents told her to it, like,

847
00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:16.199
<v Speaker 2>you can't make a living writing books, right, So she

848
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:21.639
<v Speaker 2>goes to university blah blah blah. She marries a Portuguese journalist.

849
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:27.280
<v Speaker 2>She moves to Portugal, and this marriage doesn't work out

850
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:30.920
<v Speaker 2>and she goes She wants to go back to London,

851
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:32.800
<v Speaker 2>but she can't afford to live there. In London, it's

852
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:36.840
<v Speaker 2>a very expensive city, so she decides to go to Edinburgh, Scotland.

853
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:41.559
<v Speaker 2>It's a much cheaper city, and her sister happens to

854
00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:44.079
<v Speaker 2>live there, so she thought, okay, let's go there. But

855
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:47.840
<v Speaker 2>she also has a child, so there's this divorce. She's

856
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:52.039
<v Speaker 2>a mom with a child. She's single, she can't find

857
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:54.960
<v Speaker 2>a job, and she comes really depressed and she feels

858
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:59.480
<v Speaker 2>like her life is a total failure. And she did

859
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:02.760
<v Speaker 2>a hard commencement speech about this, and she talked about

860
01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:07.519
<v Speaker 2>the power of hitting rock Bottom because she said, hitting

861
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:11.159
<v Speaker 2>rock Bottom was very meaningful and powerful to me because

862
01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:15.360
<v Speaker 2>it stripped away the inessential. Everything that was not real

863
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:18.320
<v Speaker 2>was stripped away from me. My husband was gone, I

864
01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:22.760
<v Speaker 2>couldn't find a job. I was depressed. And when she

865
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:25.280
<v Speaker 2>was experienced all of this, she said, you know, my

866
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:27.719
<v Speaker 2>life is such a failure. I might as well do

867
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.840
<v Speaker 2>what I always wanted to do, write books. And then

868
01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:33.519
<v Speaker 2>in that time, she was sitting on a train, I

869
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:37.119
<v Speaker 2>think from Manchester to London, and all of a sudden

870
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:41.760
<v Speaker 2>she had download and it came to her bomb and

871
01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 2>it was very powerful. It was like wizard boy that

872
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:48.159
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know is a wizard goes to wizarding school and

873
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:51.119
<v Speaker 2>she felt so much alife is so much grace.

874
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.119
<v Speaker 1>He said, oh, this is it. He saw everything. She saw,

875
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.480
<v Speaker 1>all the houses, he's all the all the you know,

876
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.400
<v Speaker 1>everything in the Harry Potter or universe. He saw it immediately,

877
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's exactly what I'm talking about. It just comes

878
01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:05.599
<v Speaker 1>to you and it's so powerful and she couldn't resist

879
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:08.199
<v Speaker 1>writing about it. And at the same time it was

880
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:13.119
<v Speaker 1>also her healing out of this dark world. But I mean,

881
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:14.840
<v Speaker 1>she was in a very dark place at the time,

882
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and and then but she had to go to this

883
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:22.079
<v Speaker 1>rock bottom situation in order to to to just say, Okay,

884
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna trust this energy and I'm just gonna go

885
01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:27.440
<v Speaker 1>to write because i have nothing else to do and

886
01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm depressed. Right, So you can compare her situation with Oprah,

887
01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:34.880
<v Speaker 1>where Oprah really said, you know, use me, I don't

888
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:38.000
<v Speaker 1>have a lot to live for anymore. So there seems

889
01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.159
<v Speaker 1>to be that you you first have to hit this

890
01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:45.480
<v Speaker 1>really rock bottom situation before you really, you know, surrender

891
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:48.159
<v Speaker 1>yourself to your soul in a way.

892
01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Can you give us any any examples of people that

893
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:53.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't have to suffer in the same manner that the

894
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:58.280
<v Speaker 2>three women examples are in the book? Somebody who perhaps

895
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:02.239
<v Speaker 2>is a is a busy this person or has been

896
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:07.840
<v Speaker 2>practicing meditation and and they had an AHA moment and

897
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:13.079
<v Speaker 2>changed their career and became much more harmonious with their

898
01:02:13.079 --> 01:02:13.840
<v Speaker 2>soul's purpose.

899
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to be honest, all the people that I've met

900
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:22.559
<v Speaker 1>an interview, they all had this crisis situation first. So

901
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that you really need it, but you know,

902
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:31.599
<v Speaker 1>we we don't have a society and an education system

903
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:36.920
<v Speaker 1>that encourages us to connect with our soul. So if

904
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.119
<v Speaker 1>you just fit in and just you know, live your

905
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:42.360
<v Speaker 1>quote tonquote normal life, there's no reason to connect with

906
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:49.280
<v Speaker 1>that deeper dimension. I think from what I've seen people, uh,

907
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't want to really go there. Life forces

908
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.239
<v Speaker 1>us to go there because we have no choice. So

909
01:02:55.280 --> 01:02:58.159
<v Speaker 1>that's how I see it. And for me it was

910
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:00.639
<v Speaker 1>the same. I was just, you know, with this big

911
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:03.599
<v Speaker 1>international law firm. But I was like, I was not depressed,

912
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:05.000
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, Anna, I don't want to do

913
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:06.719
<v Speaker 1>this for the rest of my life, you know, I'd

914
01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:10.119
<v Speaker 1>rather but I didn't know what to do. So I

915
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:13.000
<v Speaker 1>started to ask question, Kay, what you know, how can

916
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you find your purpose in life? And I think purpose

917
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:20.840
<v Speaker 1>is so important. If we don't have a bigger purpose,

918
01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:24.039
<v Speaker 1>we don't feel the connection with our lives and with

919
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the fullness of life.

920
01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good example. Did you quit your law

921
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:34.559
<v Speaker 2>firm Cold Turkey or did you slowly move into more

922
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:39.159
<v Speaker 2>enjoyable work and then at some point.

923
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:42.559
<v Speaker 1>So when I had the insight that I wanted to

924
01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:47.239
<v Speaker 1>make a film about to the Heart, I quit Cold Turkey.

925
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:52.079
<v Speaker 1>And it was like a social crucifixion of course, because

926
01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:56.199
<v Speaker 1>my family father was crazy. Everyone thought I was crazy.

927
01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:00.239
<v Speaker 1>And it took me five years to produce the film

928
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and write the book, So it was five years of

929
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:09.039
<v Speaker 1>social crucification. But I don't know. In a way, it

930
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:12.400
<v Speaker 1>zipped away everything that was not real, zipped away too

931
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:18.559
<v Speaker 1>in essential, And you know, at one point you you

932
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:21.400
<v Speaker 1>don't care anymore what other people say or think. It's

933
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:26.960
<v Speaker 1>just yourliveness in you is so big and so great

934
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:31.239
<v Speaker 1>and so expensive. I was just happy with listening to

935
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:33.679
<v Speaker 1>my soul. I felt so happy all the time. I

936
01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:35.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, this is it, let's go.

937
01:04:37.559 --> 01:04:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Of course, you're gonna leave friends and family behind when

938
01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:43.599
<v Speaker 2>you make a big life change like that, But as

939
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:47.519
<v Speaker 2>you're saying, you feel a lot better. Have the people

940
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:49.679
<v Speaker 2>that left come back into your life or do you

941
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:53.400
<v Speaker 2>have friends and family that are like you know, he

942
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:56.280
<v Speaker 2>was crazy to quit being a lawyers.

943
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:59.559
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy that when you become successful, people start to

944
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:05.000
<v Speaker 1>treat you you better. When you have success, people become nicer.

945
01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:09.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you win, you have friends. They don't

946
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:11.679
<v Speaker 1>support you when you were going through your trials and

947
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.800
<v Speaker 1>when you, you know, start to follow your dreams, they

948
01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:19.000
<v Speaker 1>only support you once they see that you're doing well

949
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and have success. When the film came out, I had

950
01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:28.360
<v Speaker 1>a big premiere here in the city of Antwerp. We

951
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.719
<v Speaker 1>had a big venue with thousands of people, and I

952
01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:34.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously I didn't invite my family because they didn't support

953
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:38.360
<v Speaker 1>what I was doing. Wow. So the whole venue was

954
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:44.320
<v Speaker 1>sold out with thousands of people. And after the screening

955
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of the film, I did the Q and A. I

956
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:49.159
<v Speaker 1>they asked me on station. We did the Q and

957
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:52.679
<v Speaker 1>A and the spotlights were on the public and I

958
01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:57.199
<v Speaker 1>every from everyone was giving the film standing of ass

959
01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:59.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, my god, when they really love it.

960
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:02.280
<v Speaker 1>In the middle and the center of the audience, there

961
01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:05.280
<v Speaker 1>were a few people who were not standing up, and

962
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I looked a little bit better and I saw it

963
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 1>was my family. Oh, in the middle there was my father.

964
01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:17.159
<v Speaker 1>And after the so they were like, they were like,

965
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:19.760
<v Speaker 1>looking at all those people, why are they applauding, Why

966
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:22.599
<v Speaker 1>are they, you know, giving this a standing ovation. They

967
01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:26.679
<v Speaker 1>were like they didn't get it. So afterwards, I was

968
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:29.679
<v Speaker 1>signing books and my father was standing in the line

969
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:31.599
<v Speaker 1>and I said, hey, you're here. I didn't invite you,

970
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:35.400
<v Speaker 1>but you know, I'm glad that you came and I

971
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:38.800
<v Speaker 1>asked him, did you learn something? And he said, I

972
01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:42.360
<v Speaker 1>thought that what he said to me, Yeah, I learned something.

973
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:45.639
<v Speaker 1>He said, I thought that my son was crazy talking

974
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:48.000
<v Speaker 1>about me, of course, but now I know that that

975
01:06:48.039 --> 01:06:50.159
<v Speaker 1>there that there are a lot of crazy people in

976
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the world. Ah.

977
01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:53.760
<v Speaker 2>So he didn't get it at all.

978
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.559
<v Speaker 1>He didn't get it. No, it was like, why are

979
01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:59.159
<v Speaker 1>they interested about, you know, in living from the heart,

980
01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:03.559
<v Speaker 1>and why is that such a big deal? And and

981
01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:07.039
<v Speaker 1>and and and I didn't. I mean, I he passed

982
01:07:07.079 --> 01:07:11.159
<v Speaker 1>away last year, but I was okay with it. Really. Yeah.

983
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they it's so funny you you evolved in

984
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:17.119
<v Speaker 2>a whole different direction than your family.

985
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And uh, that's that's a that's a shocker. Uh.

986
01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:26.119
<v Speaker 2>The books called Manifestation Perfected six steps to embody your

987
01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:31.239
<v Speaker 2>soul purpose and uh, if you would like more information

988
01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:35.559
<v Speaker 2>on Baptiste, uh you can what's what's the website again,

989
01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:39.280
<v Speaker 2>It's the Power of the Heart dot com correct bo com.

990
01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:41.519
<v Speaker 1>And you can follow me follow me on social media

991
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:46.519
<v Speaker 1>on especially I think on Instagram Battista pop Official. I'm

992
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:50.440
<v Speaker 1>also on Facebook, but my Facebook Pitch Official pitch got hacked.

993
01:07:51.159 --> 01:07:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Or you can follow me on TikTok if you want

994
01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:56.760
<v Speaker 1>uh and also on LinkedIn. Yeah, this is is.

995
01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:03.519
<v Speaker 2>An excellent read. And we haven't really talked about people

996
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:05.480
<v Speaker 2>other than the three women in the book who have

997
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:08.960
<v Speaker 2>had great success. But what makes you feel like this

998
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:14.880
<v Speaker 2>is the real key to having deep, deep personal satisfaction

999
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:17.399
<v Speaker 2>and intimacy of success.

1000
01:08:17.960 --> 01:08:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I think if you went, you know, to death and

1001
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:24.239
<v Speaker 1>back like Anita more Johnny than you really have seen

1002
01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:28.359
<v Speaker 1>it all and you really have seen what it's all about.

1003
01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:31.800
<v Speaker 1>And I think the key is studying near death experiences

1004
01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and people who who have been in that dimension and

1005
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:39.159
<v Speaker 1>came back and tell us why we're really here and

1006
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:42.920
<v Speaker 1>what the purpose of life is. M fantastic.

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01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Hey, really a pleasure having you on the program.

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01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you so much. I thank you for your questions,

1009
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:51.720
<v Speaker 1>and I really enjoyed our conversation. Thank you, Cliff.

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01:08:57.960 --> 01:09:01.720
<v Speaker 2>It was really something about the presentation that Baptiste was

1011
01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:08.640
<v Speaker 2>providing in describing a soul based intention, a soul based manifestation,

1012
01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:12.119
<v Speaker 2>if you can get in that state of mind, and

1013
01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 2>that's what the book's all about, is getting into that

1014
01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:20.760
<v Speaker 2>sole level of knowing what's best for you and then

1015
01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:26.159
<v Speaker 2>moving forward with the intention and then the manifestation. I

1016
01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:30.239
<v Speaker 2>think that is an amazing goal. I haven't read the

1017
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:32.520
<v Speaker 2>entire book, to be perfectly honest with you, so I

1018
01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:36.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know how it's set up. We talked about the

1019
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:41.399
<v Speaker 2>six sections and you're gonna need to get the book

1020
01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:46.159
<v Speaker 2>for more details, but I mean it feels right to me.

1021
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:50.840
<v Speaker 2>It feels really really good. There were not enough examples

1022
01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:55.880
<v Speaker 2>of people that were manifesting. He talked about himself, Baptiste

1023
01:09:55.880 --> 01:10:00.680
<v Speaker 2>and talked about himself, and of course super super positive

1024
01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:07.600
<v Speaker 2>manifestors Oprah Winfrey, JK. Rowlings, and of course Anita More

1025
01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Johnny I got to get that book. By the way,

1026
01:10:12.039 --> 01:10:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Dying to Be Me sounds amazing me even get her

1027
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:18.880
<v Speaker 2>on the show. But those are super manifestors. Those are

1028
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:22.560
<v Speaker 2>those are people that are so locked in that you know,

1029
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 2>they're living there their self, They're living their dream, they're

1030
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:33.760
<v Speaker 2>living their higher self, their their soul. Super super manifestors.

1031
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:40.079
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just curious how much time is needed. I mean,

1032
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:45.319
<v Speaker 2>how do you know that you are living your soul's intent.

1033
01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:48.760
<v Speaker 2>That's a tough one. I mean, he talked some of

1034
01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:51.920
<v Speaker 2>the about that. But if you can get into that

1035
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:57.199
<v Speaker 2>state of mind while and maintain it, And I think

1036
01:10:57.239 --> 01:11:05.920
<v Speaker 2>those three women are excellent examples of that. But I

1037
01:11:05.960 --> 01:11:09.439
<v Speaker 2>wonder who else would be a good example? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>is Elon Musk an example of a person living his

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<v Speaker 2>soul purpose?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Think about the CEOs from some of the Fortune five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred companies, you know, Michael Jordan, super Athletes, Steve Steph Curry.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard to say, really hard to say. It's an interesting question.

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<v Speaker 2>But what happens if the whole plants filled with guys

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<v Speaker 2>like that, women and men who are living their ultimate reality,

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<v Speaker 2>their soul purpose. Wow, it's amazing fun to think about

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<v Speaker 2>manifestation perfected.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Remind you that we have all kinds of amazing tours

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<v Speaker 2>coming up in the next twelve months. Our next tour

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<v Speaker 2>June twenty second through July second, is in Turkey. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is a good one because not only did we

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<v Speaker 2>learn a lot when we did our first tour last year,

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<v Speaker 2>this year we have even more packed into the nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven day program. We see the classics, we see

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<v Speaker 2>darren kuru Is. Tanbul is a beautiful city, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a number of world class museums there. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a Roman Museum, there's a number of places to see

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<v Speaker 2>evidence of the previous civilizations that have lived there, and

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<v Speaker 2>the food, the drink of the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>Is just gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>We get on a bus, we start getting on the

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<v Speaker 2>road and we see we see go Beckley Tepee, Karahan Teppe.

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<v Speaker 2>We see the museums for each of those places. We

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<v Speaker 2>see a lot of we see a lot of evidence

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<v Speaker 2>of other civilizations that have been there. If you'd let

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<v Speaker 2>you join us Earth ancients dot com, forward slash tours

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<v Speaker 2>see the entireenerary information. Go to earth ancients dot com

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<v Speaker 2>forward slash tours. All right, that's it for this program.

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<v Speaker 2>I think my guest today Baptiste Pope, his new book

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<v Speaker 2>Manifestation perfected as always a team of Gil Tour, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Foster and everyone who makes this thing happen. You guys

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<v Speaker 2>are rock all right, take care, be well, and we

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<v Speaker 2>will talk to you next time.