Speaker 1: And welcome to the Big Radio Show.
Speaker 2: Hi, how are you. It's Monday.
Speaker 1: Today is the ninth day of June, year of Our Lord,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan. So we've
Speaker 1: got a lot to cover today. It was a busy
Speaker 1: weekend and so yesterday we were out and about doing
Speaker 1: family things, and we got home and I turned on
Speaker 1: the television saw Los Angeles and the riots going on there.
Speaker 2: It is. You know, I've seen LA riots going back
Speaker 2: to the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the the race riots back in
Speaker 1: the sixties. There was the Rodney King riots back in
Speaker 1: the ninety two, I think it was. So we've seen
Speaker 1: this before. So what is this all about? Because Friday
Speaker 1: night it started when ICE, which is a law a
Speaker 1: federal law enforcement agency. They're like the FBI. They're a
Speaker 1: federal law enforcement agency, Immigration and Customs enforcement, that's.
Speaker 2: What they do.
Speaker 1: And so they are out trying to find the criminal
Speaker 1: illegals that are in this country. And so a lot
Speaker 1: of people are pointed to blame because of the fact
Speaker 1: that President Trump called up federalized the California National Guard
Speaker 1: because Governor Newsom would not Mayor of Los Angeles Karen
Speaker 1: bass would also not so Trump, who actually it seems
Speaker 1: like this is something he's been wanting to do for
Speaker 1: some time. He tried to do it back in Trump
Speaker 1: one point zero with Portland and Seattle, and in Portland
Speaker 1: he was able to do some of it because of
Speaker 1: the fact that the rioters were surrounding the Federal building
Speaker 1: in Portland, and he got federal federalized National Guard to
Speaker 1: guard the Federal building in Portland. And so this has
Speaker 1: happened before. There is a whole slug of laws, the
Speaker 1: Posse Commatatis, which basically says that you can't use the
Speaker 1: United States military against its own citizens in our own
Speaker 1: country kind of. But there are exceptions to that. One
Speaker 1: of them is the Insurrection Act. And the Insurrection Act
Speaker 1: has been used rarely, but has been used. And one
Speaker 1: of the things that I think people need to learn
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump is he is going to use anything
Speaker 1: at his disposal.
Speaker 2: The courts will figure it out later.
Speaker 1: But was he right in calling up or federalizing the
Speaker 1: California National Guard? Knew someom the governor of California says
Speaker 1: absolutely not. It was disgusting, it was unconstitutional, And Karen
Speaker 1: Bassa is just worthless. So it's another part of this
Speaker 1: is the politics is that the Democrat Party seems to
Speaker 1: be the party that is behind the illegals that are
Speaker 1: in this country, and they are the party that is
Speaker 1: anti ICE. And one Democrat this morning I saw was saying, Hey, Democrats,
Speaker 1: you might want to stop using the anti Ice rhetoric
Speaker 1: because you're just inflaming everything. But let's go back to
Speaker 1: Friday night. So there were these people, the ICE people
Speaker 1: came in and where they're in Los Angeles, And I
Speaker 1: got a clip I'll play it for you here to
Speaker 1: just a ben where Karen Bass says fifty percent of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles is Hispanic. Wow, I know it was big.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was half. But who cares how
Speaker 1: many Hispanics live in Los Angeles? I mean, you want
Speaker 1: to find out how many Irish live there? I mean what,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any difference. They're not looking for Hispanics,
Speaker 1: They're looking for illegals. Yes, a lot of the illegals
Speaker 1: that came into this country came from Latin American countries,
Speaker 1: whether it was Mexico actually more in the past, but
Speaker 1: now South America, Venezuela, El Salvador, all of that crowd,
Speaker 1: and so I think you go fishing where the fish is,
Speaker 1: and if your ICE and there's pressure on them to
Speaker 1: increase the number of arrests, they're going to go fishing
Speaker 1: where the fish are. And there's probably a lot of
Speaker 1: illegals that are in Los Angeles. I think the racing
Speaker 1: creates more problems by bringing that up Karen Bass, but
Speaker 1: if you want to, that's kind of how she's not
Speaker 1: the brightest person in town. The Democrats now are starting
Speaker 1: to urge other Democrats to stop the anti Ice rhetoric.
Speaker 1: And the reason why is because polling from just about
Speaker 1: everybody left right, front center, the polling is very much
Speaker 1: in favor of Donald Trump getting rid of deporting illegals.
Speaker 1: And then you get down into the nuances. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't want Jose who's been in this country for thirty
Speaker 1: years and runs of dry cleaners and has a family
Speaker 1: and children. No, I'm not talking about him, kind of not.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm looking for the criminals. Well, so is Ice.
Speaker 1: So they went to a home depot location where a
Speaker 1: bunch of people, usually illegals, standing around waiting to get
Speaker 1: hired to do temporary labor jobs, and the neighborhood found
Speaker 1: out about it, and they started surrounding Ice. Ice then
Speaker 1: brought the prisoners down to the LA Federal Building near
Speaker 1: downtown Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: There's two buildings.
Speaker 1: Feds have a building in downtown LA, one in West LA.
Speaker 1: This was downtown, right by City Hall, right by skid Row.
Speaker 1: It's a terrible part of town. So they brought the
Speaker 1: people that they had apprehended there and I guess they
Speaker 1: were going to sort out who's who at that point.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much sorting they did at the
Speaker 1: home Depot parking lot, but.
Speaker 2: That brought the crowd out.
Speaker 1: Then Ice called the LAPD and said, you know what,
Speaker 1: we need help. There's more of them than there are
Speaker 1: of us. So they had kind of ramped everything up. Now,
Speaker 1: the other part of this story is is they keep
Speaker 1: talking about Donald Trump did the National Guard and federalized
Speaker 1: and everything else. There are three hundred National Guard on
Speaker 1: duty with feet on the ground in Los Angeles, federalized
Speaker 1: by the White House.
Speaker 2: Three hundred.
Speaker 1: Now, he said he was going to call up two thousand,
Speaker 1: but there's only three hundred there. So maybe the rest
Speaker 1: are coming, but at this point there are three hundred.
Speaker 1: They are surrounding the perimeter of the LA Federal Building.
Speaker 1: They are not out on the streets. Again, I'll play
Speaker 1: a clip for you Karen Bass talking about they're not
Speaker 1: supposed to be out on the streets.
Speaker 2: They're not.
Speaker 1: I watched it yesterday afternoon and yesterday evening and again
Speaker 1: this morning, and all I see is black police uniforms.
Speaker 1: That's the Los Angeles Police Department and the LAPD. Jim McConnell,
Speaker 1: Jim McDonald who's the chief of LAPD, says that they
Speaker 1: were overwhelmed and that's when you call for the National Guard.
Speaker 1: But Gavin Newsom will not do it, and neither will
Speaker 1: Karen Baston. They both have apparently the authority, especially the governor,
Speaker 1: have the authority to do that.
Speaker 2: And Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is said and they're going, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to let this become Portland or Seattle. From his first term,
Speaker 1: it got out of control, and so this is I
Speaker 1: think the courts will rule in his favor. Certainly has
Speaker 1: the authority, it seems to be. But is this then
Speaker 1: starts about anti ice And there's a number of people
Speaker 1: that are in these communities in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: That are afraid of ice.
Speaker 1: There against ice because they're family and friends and neighbors.
Speaker 1: Some of them are here illegally. But what I saw
Speaker 1: was no National Guard until this morning, and they were
Speaker 1: around the perimeter of the Federal building. You've got a
Speaker 1: very weak governor and mayor that are going to sit
Speaker 1: back and let la burn. And by the way, this
Speaker 1: is the it started off as anti Eisenmer's. Now the
Speaker 1: professional agitators have arrived. Yesterday afternoon. The police were talking
Speaker 1: about we recognize a lot of these people and they
Speaker 1: arrested twenty seven, but some of them were people that
Speaker 1: they've arrested before that were quote out exercising their First
Speaker 1: Amendment rights. No, they're professional agitators. That's what they do.
Speaker 1: They run protest. They are supported by paychecks from people
Speaker 1: like George Sorows. But you've got the weak governor, you
Speaker 1: got the weak mayor, and may I point out what
Speaker 1: happened the last time you had a weak governor. It
Speaker 1: was in Minneapolis. It was the death of George Floyd
Speaker 1: and Minneapolis burned because Tim Waltz did nothing for three days.
Speaker 1: Then after people begging him to call out the National Guard,
Speaker 1: he finally did and that squashed the riots. The same
Speaker 1: thing happened again in Portland, week Mayre, same thing happened
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Seattle burned, Portland burned, Minneapolis really burned, And
Speaker 1: so do you want to wait for a week, Governor.
Speaker 1: One of my other observations yesterday was a lot of
Speaker 1: the protesters had Mexican flags. I didn't see any American flags,
Speaker 1: and that must be it must have been won, but
Speaker 1: they have.
Speaker 2: They do this when they riot in La.
Speaker 1: The people of La there's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of people from Mexico. I don't know whether they're legally
Speaker 1: or not, but they're but they're they're not assimilating. They
Speaker 1: are devoted to what they considered their motherland, which is Mexico.
Speaker 2: Mexican flags everywhere.
Speaker 1: So twenty seven were arrested, some of them professional agitators
Speaker 1: seen before. And the Democrats are lining up behind the
Speaker 1: rioters for one reason, one reason only, and that is
Speaker 1: because they have Trump derangement syndrome. They really do not
Speaker 1: like Donald Trump. And Donald Trump is itching to go
Speaker 1: after troublemakers like this. He pushes the edge of the
Speaker 1: law and because of that, he's been sued for everything
Speaker 1: under the sun. And the courts are going to have
Speaker 1: to make a lot of decisions about whether he was
Speaker 1: in the right or wrong. So let's start with Chad Wolf,
Speaker 1: the former head of the Department of Homeland Security. This
Speaker 1: is from yesterday, Yeah, Sunday evening.
Speaker 3: Right, because we've seen this before.
Speaker 4: We saw this in twenty twenty when states and governors
Speaker 4: and mayors said exactly the same thing, which we don't
Speaker 4: need the federal government. We've got it under control. And
Speaker 4: the first Trump administration said, great, get it under control,
Speaker 4: and day after day, week after week, even months at
Speaker 4: a time, it went out of control. We saw this
Speaker 4: in Portland, we saw this in Seattle, we're now seeing
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles. So look, I think what the Trump
Speaker 4: administration is saying is, look, if you want to solve
Speaker 4: this locally, then solve it. Make sure that we don't
Speaker 4: have law enforcement, law enforcement officials in harm's way. But
Speaker 4: if we don't see any progress, then we're going to
Speaker 4: take matters in our own hands. We're actually going to
Speaker 4: defend law enforcement. And I think that's what's going on
Speaker 4: in the ground in Los Angeles right now.
Speaker 5: Does what role do you think de escalation needs to be,
Speaker 5: What role does it have in this situation? And what
Speaker 5: should law enforcement be doing to de escalate things.
Speaker 4: Well, obviously that's again maybe a better question for the
Speaker 4: governor and the mayor, which don't seem to be doing
Speaker 4: a whole lot in this case. Look, I think for
Speaker 4: law enforcement, you've got law enforcement agents in the community
Speaker 4: trying to carry out civil law enforcement or immigration orders,
Speaker 4: trying to remove dangerous individuals from those commune unities, and
Speaker 4: they are interfered with, they are being thrown rocks at
Speaker 4: molotov cocktails. This cannot continue in California or anywhere else
Speaker 4: because what happens is day after day. If this doesn't
Speaker 4: isn't being addressed, then you get professional protesters, you get
Speaker 4: professional agitators coming into your community.
Speaker 3: And I don't think anyone wants that.
Speaker 4: So I think making sure that law enforcement is apprehending
Speaker 4: individuals that are violently again crossing that line and doing
Speaker 4: violent things that we've seen, I think is really important here.
Speaker 4: But no doubt, if people want to protest and they
Speaker 4: want to do it non violently, they should be allowed
Speaker 4: to do that, and I think law enforcement is there
Speaker 4: to make sure that they have their rights to do that.
Speaker 4: But if it crosses the line, you infere with law enforcement.
Speaker 4: And certainly if you attack law enforcement and destroy property,
Speaker 4: you need to be held accountable.
Speaker 5: And so now we have these National Guard troops which
Speaker 5: have been pederalized, called in by the president not the governor,
Speaker 5: and now are under the command of the Defense Department.
Speaker 5: And there are the questions of rules and engagement specific
Speaker 5: when they're trained to use lethal force.
Speaker 2: What do you know about that?
Speaker 4: Well, again, I think this is an interesting debate. We're
Speaker 4: very concerned in your reporting. Last segment was very concerned
Speaker 4: about rules of engagement, what President Trump is doing. What
Speaker 4: you're not reporting on are the is the violent and
Speaker 4: the the destruction that's occurring there in LA What you're
Speaker 4: not reporting on are the criminal aliens.
Speaker 3: That are being removed off the streets of Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: I think that is really really important to hear you.
Speaker 4: I hear that if that doesn't or if that continues,
Speaker 4: then you're obviously going to have more and more law
Speaker 4: enforcement in there. Look, National Guard is trained to do
Speaker 4: this type of behavior. We saw it during the first
Speaker 4: Trump We've seen it during the LA riots back in
Speaker 4: the early nineties. I believe they know how to do
Speaker 4: this mission. They know how to go in there obviously
Speaker 4: protect law enforcement, making sure that individuals have that first
Speaker 4: Amendment right to protest. But look, if they're going to
Speaker 4: cross that line, then they'll obviously take action.
Speaker 5: So what are their orders and when are they supposed
Speaker 5: to engage and when do they use lethal force?
Speaker 4: Well, and you know, my experience tells me that when
Speaker 4: local law enforcement there becomes overwhelmed, when you know, when
Speaker 4: you have two hundred or several hundred other agitators and
Speaker 4: folks that are crossing the line from nonviolence to violent protests,
Speaker 4: that's when you're going to get the National Guard engaged
Speaker 4: because law enforcement capabilities are then outmatched. And so that's
Speaker 4: what the Trump administration is saying. You don't send the
Speaker 4: federal or sorry, the National Guard in this case into
Speaker 4: every community because you have local law enforcement usually helping.
Speaker 4: But I think what we've seen, and there's been reporting
Speaker 4: where you know LAPD takes two hours to respond to
Speaker 4: an incident involving ice officers.
Speaker 3: That's a problem.
Speaker 4: That's two hours where law enforcement officials perhaps could be
Speaker 4: deadly or seriously I should say injured, And you want
Speaker 4: to have other assets there, in this case, the National Guard,
Speaker 4: to protect those off so that they can go out
Speaker 4: and that they can.
Speaker 3: Do their job. I just disagree wholeheartedly.
Speaker 4: By saying that bringing the National Guard, bringing law enforcement
Speaker 4: into a community is somehow escalating the situation. The only
Speaker 4: thing that's escalating it is the amount of violence against
Speaker 4: law enforcement. We heard the same thing in Portland and
Speaker 4: Seattle about more law enforcement in those communities back in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty was somehow escalating it when local officials simply
Speaker 4: were not doing their job and making sure that law
Speaker 4: enforcement officers were safe. So I disagree saying when you
Speaker 4: bring a national guard it somehow escalates it. If local officials,
Speaker 4: whether it's the governor, the mayor or others, had done
Speaker 4: their job, let lap do their job, we wouldn't see this.
Speaker 3: And I think President Trump and.
Speaker 4: Other members of the cabinet have said, look, you need
Speaker 4: to do your job. But if you're not willing to
Speaker 4: do your job, then we're going to come in here
Speaker 4: and we're going to protect those law enforcement officials. Now,
Speaker 4: I only you know, and I'm sure they'll only be
Speaker 4: there as much as they're needed to be there.
Speaker 3: But again, they need to be there to protect ICE
Speaker 3: law enforcement.
Speaker 4: And others trying to carry out those immigration orders.
Speaker 2: And Chad Wolfe was right.
Speaker 1: Apparently the ICE officers yelled for help, and the LAPD
Speaker 1: one report said they took fifty five minutes, and other
Speaker 1: reports that they took two hours to respond. But again,
Speaker 1: this whole idea that the anchor is portraying is that
Speaker 1: somehow that this was escalating the situation because they had
Speaker 1: a because they brought in the National Guard and federalize them.
Speaker 1: Then there's Karen bass the mayor of Los Angeles. She
Speaker 1: has been an abject failure about everything that she They've
Speaker 1: spent billions and billions of dollars on homeless and they
Speaker 1: have the worst homeless crisis they've ever had. It continues
Speaker 1: to keep growing. They've had budget problems in the billions
Speaker 1: of dollars upside down. She mismanaged everything about the fires
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. She's still laying. Listen to this clip
Speaker 1: I'll played for you. This is from yesterday afternoon. She
Speaker 1: held a small news conference and in that she brought
Speaker 1: up and we had the fires. You know, the fires
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with this. So here's Karen Bastrom yesterday.
Speaker 6: Well, there are a number of protests that are taking
Speaker 6: place around the city, and unfortunately, in a couple of
Speaker 6: the areas there has been an unlawful assembly declared. I
Speaker 6: will tell you that a sense of fear has been
Speaker 6: created in the city beginning on Friday when numerous workplaces
Speaker 6: were raided. Initially we were told only violent criminals. I
Speaker 6: don't know how that relates to a workplace. We have
Speaker 6: people that are detained right now and they've not been
Speaker 6: in contact with their families, they've not been allowed to
Speaker 6: have legal counsel, and to me, it just seems like
Speaker 6: this is intentional chaos. You know. I had talked to
Speaker 6: representatives of the Trump administration earlier on to tell them
Speaker 6: that the LUTs Angeles Police Department could control things that
Speaker 6: were happening here and that there was no need to
Speaker 6: federalize troops. And so to have this here is really
Speaker 6: just a provocation and something that was not needed in
Speaker 6: our city. We're still recovering after five months from the
Speaker 6: city's worst natural disaster in decades, and now to go
Speaker 6: through a trauma like this that is really traumatizing the
Speaker 6: whole city because everybody knows somebody in a city where
Speaker 6: more than fifty percent our Latino this just sows chaos
Speaker 6: that is not warranted nor needed in the city of
Speaker 6: Los Angeles at this point. In time.
Speaker 5: And I know LAPD, as you just noted, declared some
Speaker 5: of these gatherings and lawful assembly. Is that something you
Speaker 5: were made aware of before they did that?
Speaker 3: Did you okay that?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: Well I didn't okay it. I don't run the police department,
Speaker 6: the chief does, but I was aware of it. And
Speaker 6: what I was told is is that the protesters had
Speaker 6: begun throwing things. So to me, it is most important
Speaker 6: that everybody be allowed to exercise their First Amendment right,
Speaker 6: but it absolutely has to be done peacefully. Now with
Speaker 6: federal troops on the ground, we do not need to
Speaker 6: have our city under sage. I remember the last time
Speaker 6: federal troops were on the ground here, and it was
Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety two when there was massive civil unrest.
Speaker 6: Nothing like that is happening here, So there is no
Speaker 6: need for there to be federal troops on our ground
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 5: And Mayor, we've seen since the federal troops arrived, there
Speaker 5: were those clashes earlier today, and then we saw LAPD
Speaker 5: essentially trying to build some space between where the protesters
Speaker 5: were located, where the National Guard troops were located, try
Speaker 5: to spread them out a bit. Now, obviously they're trying
Speaker 5: to disperse them. I'm curious if, now that the National
Speaker 5: Guard troops are there on the ground, if there is
Speaker 5: any urgency on the police department's part to really put
Speaker 5: out an even stronger force and a stronger posture to
Speaker 5: get this under control. So you can, and I know
Speaker 5: your governor has said that they don't want that. He's
Speaker 5: formally requested that the National Guard troops go back, that
Speaker 5: they're not needed. Were those things correlated.
Speaker 6: Well, I absolutely agree with the governor in asking that
Speaker 6: the troops be withdrawn. I don't think that as a
Speaker 6: way to bring peace in Los Angeles. I think that
Speaker 6: our law enforcement officers can handle this situation. But I
Speaker 6: just have to repeat again, it's a feeling here of
Speaker 6: intentional chaos in a situation that had not broken out
Speaker 6: to violence short of a few people. And there's nothing
Speaker 6: unusual about that, and our police departments can manage that.
Speaker 6: But it is as though troops were rolled out in
Speaker 6: a provocative manner, and I do not see how that
Speaker 6: is helpful to Los Angeles right now. It's not the
Speaker 6: type of resources that we need in the city. You
Speaker 6: and the governor both said this is that they're at the.
Speaker 5: Presence of those National Guard troops. Is incendiary, is what
Speaker 5: we're seeing right now? What you were afraid would happen?
Speaker 6: Well, absolutely, I mean again, it's hard to describe the
Speaker 6: depth of the fear in the city because of the raids.
Speaker 6: I mean, you had a home depot day laborer center
Speaker 6: where people were literally running through the parking lot and
Speaker 6: it was reported that they had been chased. We had
Speaker 6: a graduation that was taking a few blocks taking place
Speaker 6: a few blocks away. I know that there were parents
Speaker 6: who are conflicted with whether or not they should even
Speaker 6: go to their own kids graduation because maybe they wouldn't
Speaker 6: be maybe they would be detained, maybe it would be disrupted.
Speaker 6: The last time this happened several years ago, in the
Speaker 6: first administration, you had kids that wouldn't go to school
Speaker 6: because they were afraid their parents wouldn't be there. You
Speaker 6: had people that wouldn't go to work, and you just
Speaker 6: think of the ripple effects. You have people on the
Speaker 6: west side of town, are away from downtown, who might
Speaker 6: employ people in their houses that have green cards that
Speaker 6: are there legally, But now people are even concerned about that.
Speaker 6: Just because I have a green card, does that mean
Speaker 6: I'm protected? Will I be picked up to will I
Speaker 6: be detained? Are my relatives that are detained? Are they
Speaker 6: even still in the United States? We know they're not
Speaker 6: in Los Angeles, They're in an adjacent county, But these
Speaker 6: people don't even know if their family members are still
Speaker 6: here or whether they were flown back quote unquote home.
Speaker 6: I would argue that Los Angeles is home, or maybe
Speaker 6: they were even sent to another country that they have
Speaker 6: no relationship with, like the people that were sent to Venezuela,
Speaker 6: and they are not Venezuelan. So this is a sense
Speaker 6: of chaos and fear, and it's just the last thing
Speaker 6: that Los Angeles needs right now at this point in time.
Speaker 2: This is not helpful.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to ask you an additional logistical question.
Speaker 5: This is a question we're trying to get to the
Speaker 5: bottom of, which is these National Guard troops they're federalized
Speaker 5: at this are you aware of what their rules of
Speaker 5: engagement are and the LAPD. Is the LAPD actively in
Speaker 5: coordination with the National Guard at.
Speaker 6: This point, Yes, the LAPD is in coordination and as
Speaker 6: I understand that their mission is to protect federal property,
Speaker 6: not to be in the streets where protests might be
Speaker 6: taking place far from the Federal building. But their mission
Speaker 6: is to protect the Federal building downtown and the Federal
Speaker 6: Building in Westwood. But again, it's the intimidation factor. It's
Speaker 6: the anger that people feel that then gets directed to
Speaker 6: the guards. And how ironic has it been because the
Speaker 6: Guards that the National Guard has been in the fire
Speaker 6: area and everybody has just been applauding and cheering them,
Speaker 6: and now to have this situation take place, it's just
Speaker 6: really unfortunate.
Speaker 1: So there she is, she's blaming everybody, except for she
Speaker 1: said that they were sending people of Venezuela. Venezuela will
Speaker 1: not accept any deportees. She also said that she correctly
Speaker 1: that the mission of the National of the Federalized National
Speaker 1: Guard is to protect the federal buildings in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: There's two of them, and that's what they're doing. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe I missed something, but I did not see one
Speaker 1: National guardsman out on the streets. The only place you
Speaker 1: will see the National Guard is in front of the
Speaker 1: Federal building. And there was a crowd that had assembled
Speaker 1: and they were standing shoulder to shoulder to keep the
Speaker 1: crowd from getting to the Federal building. That's what they're doing.
Speaker 1: That's what Karen Bass said that their mission was and
Speaker 1: that appears to be what in fact they're doing. Again
Speaker 1: she reaches back to get sympathy votes because of the
Speaker 1: fact that the fires were.
Speaker 2: Five months ago.
Speaker 1: That's another whole disaster that she has been managing, which
Speaker 1: is the people that had their homes burned down are
Speaker 1: still waiting for permission to rebuild. She's just incompetent in
Speaker 1: everything she does. Asked the fire chief who said that
Speaker 1: she wouldn't fund the fire department. I mean it goes
Speaker 1: on and on and on her inability to do her job.
Speaker 1: So she's gonna blame everybody else. But if we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about blame, where do we start. Where do
Speaker 1: we start? Do we blame Tom Holman because he is
Speaker 1: out as the head of ICE arresting people that are
Speaker 1: here illegally? Is it his fault that they're here illegally?
Speaker 1: Or could it.
Speaker 2: Be Joe Biden?
Speaker 1: Yes? Anybody? Well no, they will, of course not. They're Democrats,
Speaker 1: so they won't blame Joe Biden and Alejandro Maiorcis for
Speaker 1: letting in millions of illegals. Just opened the gates and
Speaker 1: let them in, and a lot of them went to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. But nobody's blaming them for any of this.
Speaker 1: They're probably hiding under their desks. But that's really the
Speaker 1: essence of this is where did this whole thing start.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has to clean up Aisle eight, nine and ten,
Speaker 1: and it's not pretty. It won't be pretty. But so far,
Speaker 1: the public seems to be in support according to polls
Speaker 1: from the left, from the right, from just about every
Speaker 1: poll that you can possibly see. And then there's John
Speaker 1: bellan Hee's former NYPD, former law enforcement guy, and he
Speaker 1: had this observation about what's going on in.
Speaker 7: La, the city of La and most pointedly the LATD
Speaker 7: is caught in the middle here, even though it may
Speaker 7: not look like that on the screen. You know what
Speaker 7: you had was by bringing in the National Guard. What
Speaker 7: Tom Holman, the Trump administration and the federal government we're
Speaker 7: saying was we have to have our immigration people ICE
Speaker 7: agents out on these raids looking for un documented people.
Speaker 3: Why is that?
Speaker 7: That's because the pressure has been coming from the White
Speaker 7: House to ICE to increase from eleven hundred a day
Speaker 7: to sixteen hundred a day to three thousand a day,
Speaker 7: and without hitting these bigger targets, large factories and garment
Speaker 7: center locations. They're not going to get those numbers. Well,
Speaker 7: the LAPD is barred by California law by participating in
Speaker 7: those things. So the National Guard was sent basically to say,
Speaker 7: we'll protect the federal people with federal people because we're
Speaker 7: running out of agents. The problem came yesterday when the
Speaker 7: National Guard was behind the jail as they were bringing
Speaker 7: back the people that they had arrested on these ice raids,
Speaker 7: and the crowd surged on the National Guard and there
Speaker 7: was a very small number of National Guard and there
Speaker 7: was a very large, growing crowd. The LAPD moved in
Speaker 7: with California Highway Patrol basically to separate a crowd that
Speaker 7: was way too big for that number of National guardsmen
Speaker 7: and a number of National guardsmen who were armed with
Speaker 7: fully loaded assault weapons from from an angry crowd. And
Speaker 7: of course the LAPD, as we have seen overnight and
Speaker 7: into this morning, has kind of borne the brunt of
Speaker 7: that as you have immigration demonstrators worked in with anti
Speaker 7: government demonstrators mixed in with some anarchist groups and anti
Speaker 7: government groups that lurk in the back of the crowds
Speaker 7: and egg them on and are probably responsible for more
Speaker 7: of the violence than the actual demonstrators who were there
Speaker 7: for protesting immigration. So it's a complicated thing when you
Speaker 7: have a city of three point five million people, thousands
Speaker 7: of demonstrators, and a police department that only has eight
Speaker 7: thousand cops basically and has stopped answering regular calls for
Speaker 7: service because they have most of their resources in the
Speaker 7: street dealing with this now.
Speaker 8: And on that No, let's listen to what the police
Speaker 8: chief said last night about the violence.
Speaker 2: What we saw the first night was bad.
Speaker 1: What we've seen subsequent to that is getting increasingly.
Speaker 2: Worse and more violent.
Speaker 6: We are overwhelmed as far as the number of people
Speaker 6: out there engaged in this type of activity and the
Speaker 6: type of things that they're doing.
Speaker 7: Well, I think what they're going to have to do,
Speaker 7: because the LAPD, based on its size, is going to
Speaker 7: be overwhelmed, is this is where the governor has to
Speaker 7: bring in more resources from the California Highway Patrol CHP,
Speaker 7: which is in effect California's version.
Speaker 3: Of the state police.
Speaker 7: LAPD is going to need help from the sheriff, But
Speaker 7: the sheriff has their own hands full. But the La
Speaker 7: County Sheriff of LAPD, CHPD and other jurisdictions are going
Speaker 7: to really have to set up a unified command to
Speaker 7: reach the kind of numbers that you're going to need
Speaker 7: to deal with this. And they're going to have to
Speaker 7: do a lot of community outreach to the protest groups
Speaker 7: to kind of figure out who are the people behind
Speaker 7: the violence and the trouble, who are the core admonistrators
Speaker 7: concerned with the issue, who want to protest peacefully, and
Speaker 7: how do they work with with one of those groups
Speaker 7: and deal with the other.
Speaker 1: So in other news today, we've got besides La, we've
Speaker 1: got Abrego Cardencia, which is Kilmore Kilmar, Abrego, Guarcia. Guess what,
Speaker 1: he's back. And I heard another Democrat I can't remember
Speaker 1: who it is now that was talking about he's home.
Speaker 2: No, he's not home. He was home.
Speaker 1: He's a Salvadoran native, Salvadoran resident. But they're they're calling
Speaker 1: this is the yeah, the Maryland dad thing.
Speaker 2: But he's back.
Speaker 1: They have him in custody. I believe he's in Tennessee.
Speaker 1: He was stopped by the Tennessee Highway Patrol months and
Speaker 1: months ago. And in that car when they stopped him,
Speaker 1: there were nine passengers in an automobile. None of them
Speaker 1: had I d none of them had luggage, and that's
Speaker 1: why they're putting that together two plus two, and they're
Speaker 1: finding out that he was basically transporting illegals to other
Speaker 1: places in the country for money. So he faces trafficking
Speaker 1: charges on that carrier. Bond talked about this a little
Speaker 1: bit this morning.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I have the same question about how did this
Speaker 8: massive smuggling operation go on for nine years and no
Speaker 8: one ever picked up on it? What doj alleged on
Speaker 8: Friday indicates that mister Garcia is a major smuggler of children,
Speaker 8: of guns, of illegal migrants, of women who he apparently
Speaker 8: abused sometimes. And so look, I would say this bill,
Speaker 8: this is a massive win for the Trump administration the
Speaker 8: court of public opinion, because it really makes their case
Speaker 8: that he's not just the bad guy we were telling
Speaker 8: you about. He's even worse than we even realize. It
Speaker 8: makes themocrats look like fools. And secondly, legally speaking, it
Speaker 8: gets them out of a messy situation because they were
Speaker 8: going to have to contend with where he should be
Speaker 8: over that deportation issue, because the Supreme Court had said
Speaker 8: that the government needed to facilitate his release from custody
Speaker 8: in order to deal with his deportation, and had he
Speaker 8: not been quote inappropriately removed, there was no way they
Speaker 8: were going to avoid that. Now they have the best
Speaker 8: of both worlds. They've brought him back. They're going to
Speaker 8: try him on these terrible charges, and then they're going
Speaker 8: to deal with the deportation aspect. Once they get to
Speaker 8: that thing. The case it's done with.
Speaker 1: Troopers found fourteen hundred dollars in cash and flagged him
Speaker 1: on the National Crime Information Center, which returned to gang
Speaker 1: terrorism alert.
Speaker 2: They called Ice, and Ice never responded. I bear in
Speaker 2: mind that was twenty twenty two. We had a different
Speaker 2: president then, so.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to tell you I told you so.
Speaker 1: Let me reach around my back and bat myself on
Speaker 1: the back. I said. The way to solve this is
Speaker 1: to bring him back and put him back in front
Speaker 1: of a judge, and then send him back to El Salvador.
Speaker 1: But he's going to have to first of all, face
Speaker 1: these charges of trafficking, probably spend some time in an
Speaker 1: American jail, which you'll probably appreciate, and then at the
Speaker 1: end of that send him back to El Salvador. In
Speaker 1: other news, US and China are holding talks today. They're
Speaker 1: in London. Apparently it had gone more than two hours,
Speaker 1: so things seem to be well, maybe they're getting to
Speaker 1: some real details. The Vice Premiere of China is there,
Speaker 1: so he's part of this. And then US and Iran
Speaker 1: those talks are on hold right now. But the whole
Speaker 1: idea there is that US is telling Iran they cannot
Speaker 1: have any any sort of enrichment of uranium, and that's
Speaker 1: exactly what Iran says, No, that's not so. There at
Speaker 1: a loggerhead, here's General Jack Keen on what his observation
Speaker 1: is about the US, Iran and Israel.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I think you know kind of where we
Speaker 9: are and set the table here. What are the Iranians
Speaker 9: really up to? They want to drag these negotiations out
Speaker 9: as much as they can. They were very successful with
Speaker 9: the Obama administration. Negotiations began in twenty thirteen. Two years.
Speaker 9: It took before they had a deal. And by the way,
Speaker 9: the Obama administration gave up all of their ingoing positions
Speaker 9: enriching uranium, dismantling a nuclear program, gave that up, ballistic missiles,
Speaker 9: gave that up, and gave up also state sponsor of
Speaker 9: terrorism and malign behavior in the region, gave up all
Speaker 9: of it. What Yayatola and the negotiators are up to here,
Speaker 9: they're trying to recover their air defense systems that the
Speaker 9: Israelis took down in their last attack rather significantly in October,
Speaker 9: and they have recovered some of it. The longer they
Speaker 9: dragged these negotiations out, the better it will be for them.
Speaker 9: And I think where the Ayatola is, the guy who
Speaker 9: runs the regime, where he is in his head is
Speaker 9: he's not going to let the United States dismantle his
Speaker 9: nuclear enterprise, and he's willing to accept an attack and
Speaker 9: thinks he can survive it and then rebuild his nuclear
Speaker 9: program at some point. I think that's where he is
Speaker 9: in his head, and he's dragging it out so he
Speaker 9: can recover his air defense systems.
Speaker 10: Do you think he could survive that?
Speaker 9: We cannot completely destroy the entire nuclear enterprise. We can
Speaker 9: delay it for a certain period of time, a year
Speaker 9: or two, but we would have to stay focused on it.
Speaker 9: And if they attempt to rebuild it and recover it,
Speaker 9: the Israelis would likely strike it again. That's kind of
Speaker 9: where we are. That's well known within military channels and
Speaker 9: certainly within the IDF and Israel's government, and I think
Speaker 9: it's well known within the Iranian government as well.
Speaker 3: President is committed to this.
Speaker 9: They're not going to have a nuclear weapon, and he's
Speaker 9: unequivocal about it, and he knows full well well if
Speaker 9: you give them enrichment at any level, they can weaponize
Speaker 9: that in a matter of weeks to get to enrichment
Speaker 9: grade for a nuclear weapon that we've seen already happen.
Speaker 10: And so let's stay on this topic for the remaining
Speaker 10: time that we have at this point. How much time then,
Speaker 10: do you think the administration, the Trump administration, should allow
Speaker 10: for these talks to continue if Iran is just playing
Speaker 10: for time.
Speaker 9: Well, I turned that over to the President and his negotiators.
Speaker 9: They're involved in this, they have the tenor of it.
Speaker 9: They see what's going on with the opposing negotiators from
Speaker 9: ran who, by the way, who are very experienced, and
Speaker 9: they got a better feel on when to pull a
Speaker 9: switch on this and say, Okay, we're done here. We're
Speaker 9: not making any progress with these guys. I leave that
Speaker 9: up to them to make that decision. I don't think
Speaker 9: we can sit on the sidelines and make that judgment.
Speaker 2: And one more comment. This is about Boulder, Colorado.
Speaker 1: They had a big celebration there yesterday, thousands of people
Speaker 1: showing up for a peaceful rally. Yeah, you can have
Speaker 1: peaceful rallies, and they were backing Israel. Everybody was very tense,
Speaker 1: a lot of police basing sure there wasn't another Nutburger
Speaker 1: that was going to do any harm to the people
Speaker 1: that were there. So that's it for this Monday, the
Speaker 1: ninth of June. Thank you for coming by. Hope to
Speaker 1: see you again tomorrow.