WEBVTT 1 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:22.000 And welcome to the Big Radio Show. 2 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:26.480 Hi, how are you. It's Monday. 3 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.000 Today is the ninth day of June, year of Our Lord, 4 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:35.880 twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan. So we've 5 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:37.520 got a lot to cover today. It was a busy 6 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:42.759 weekend and so yesterday we were out and about doing 7 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:46.280 family things, and we got home and I turned on 8 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:50.840 the television saw Los Angeles and the riots going on there. 9 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:56.640 It is. You know, I've seen LA riots going back 10 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:58.000 to the nineteen sixties. 11 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:01.280 I mean, it's just the the race riots back in 12 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:04.079 the sixties. There was the Rodney King riots back in 13 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:07.799 the ninety two, I think it was. So we've seen 14 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.760 this before. So what is this all about? Because Friday 15 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:17.280 night it started when ICE, which is a law a 16 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:21.319 federal law enforcement agency. They're like the FBI. They're a 17 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:27.680 federal law enforcement agency, Immigration and Customs enforcement, that's. 18 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:28.319 What they do. 19 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:33.560 And so they are out trying to find the criminal 20 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:36.920 illegals that are in this country. And so a lot 21 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:39.079 of people are pointed to blame because of the fact 22 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:44.280 that President Trump called up federalized the California National Guard 23 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:51.239 because Governor Newsom would not Mayor of Los Angeles Karen 24 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:56.719 bass would also not so Trump, who actually it seems 25 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.640 like this is something he's been wanting to do for 26 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:03.719 some time. He tried to do it back in Trump 27 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:09.039 one point zero with Portland and Seattle, and in Portland 28 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:11.199 he was able to do some of it because of 29 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:14.280 the fact that the rioters were surrounding the Federal building 30 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:19.680 in Portland, and he got federal federalized National Guard to 31 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:24.080 guard the Federal building in Portland. And so this has 32 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:29.400 happened before. There is a whole slug of laws, the 33 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:34.000 Posse Commatatis, which basically says that you can't use the 34 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:37.439 United States military against its own citizens in our own 35 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:43.280 country kind of. But there are exceptions to that. One 36 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:47.159 of them is the Insurrection Act. And the Insurrection Act 37 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:50.759 has been used rarely, but has been used. And one 38 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:53.240 of the things that I think people need to learn 39 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:57.360 about Donald Trump is he is going to use anything 40 00:02:57.400 --> 00:02:58.319 at his disposal. 41 00:02:58.360 --> 00:02:59.919 The courts will figure it out later. 42 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:05.039 But was he right in calling up or federalizing the 43 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:08.439 California National Guard? Knew someom the governor of California says 44 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:13.039 absolutely not. It was disgusting, it was unconstitutional, And Karen 45 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:19.560 Bassa is just worthless. So it's another part of this 46 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:25.439 is the politics is that the Democrat Party seems to 47 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:30.400 be the party that is behind the illegals that are 48 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:34.520 in this country, and they are the party that is 49 00:03:35.080 --> 00:03:41.159 anti ICE. And one Democrat this morning I saw was saying, Hey, Democrats, 50 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:45.639 you might want to stop using the anti Ice rhetoric 51 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:50.280 because you're just inflaming everything. But let's go back to 52 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:53.439 Friday night. So there were these people, the ICE people 53 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:58.159 came in and where they're in Los Angeles, And I 54 00:03:58.199 --> 00:03:59.800 got a clip I'll play it for you here to 55 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.840 just a ben where Karen Bass says fifty percent of 56 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:09.680 Los Angeles is Hispanic. Wow, I know it was big. 57 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:13.639 I didn't know it was half. But who cares how 58 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:18.000 many Hispanics live in Los Angeles? I mean, you want 59 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:20.759 to find out how many Irish live there? I mean what, 60 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:23.959 it doesn't make any difference. They're not looking for Hispanics, 61 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:28.959 They're looking for illegals. Yes, a lot of the illegals 62 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:32.600 that came into this country came from Latin American countries, 63 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:35.920 whether it was Mexico actually more in the past, but 64 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:40.040 now South America, Venezuela, El Salvador, all of that crowd, 65 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:44.000 and so I think you go fishing where the fish is, 66 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:47.600 and if your ICE and there's pressure on them to 67 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:52.720 increase the number of arrests, they're going to go fishing 68 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:57.240 where the fish are. And there's probably a lot of 69 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:02.319 illegals that are in Los Angeles. I think the racing 70 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:05.720 creates more problems by bringing that up Karen Bass, but 71 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:09.000 if you want to, that's kind of how she's not 72 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:13.360 the brightest person in town. The Democrats now are starting 73 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:16.680 to urge other Democrats to stop the anti Ice rhetoric. 74 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.680 And the reason why is because polling from just about 75 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:25.240 everybody left right, front center, the polling is very much 76 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:31.079 in favor of Donald Trump getting rid of deporting illegals. 77 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:35.439 And then you get down into the nuances. Well, I 78 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:39.160 don't want Jose who's been in this country for thirty 79 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:42.800 years and runs of dry cleaners and has a family 80 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:46.079 and children. No, I'm not talking about him, kind of not. 81 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:51.920 Maybe I'm looking for the criminals. Well, so is Ice. 82 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:56.560 So they went to a home depot location where a 83 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:02.360 bunch of people, usually illegals, standing around waiting to get 84 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:07.800 hired to do temporary labor jobs, and the neighborhood found 85 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:13.600 out about it, and they started surrounding Ice. Ice then 86 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.879 brought the prisoners down to the LA Federal Building near 87 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:19.160 downtown Los Angeles. 88 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:20.560 There's two buildings. 89 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:25.399 Feds have a building in downtown LA, one in West LA. 90 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:29.120 This was downtown, right by City Hall, right by skid Row. 91 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:31.519 It's a terrible part of town. So they brought the 92 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:34.800 people that they had apprehended there and I guess they 93 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.439 were going to sort out who's who at that point. 94 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:39.839 I'm not sure how much sorting they did at the 95 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:41.639 home Depot parking lot, but. 96 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:43.480 That brought the crowd out. 97 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:47.120 Then Ice called the LAPD and said, you know what, 98 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:50.560 we need help. There's more of them than there are 99 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:56.480 of us. So they had kind of ramped everything up. Now, 100 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:59.360 the other part of this story is is they keep 101 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:04.879 talking about Donald Trump did the National Guard and federalized 102 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:10.680 and everything else. There are three hundred National Guard on 103 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:15.720 duty with feet on the ground in Los Angeles, federalized 104 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:16.959 by the White House. 105 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:18.199 Three hundred. 106 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:20.680 Now, he said he was going to call up two thousand, 107 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:22.920 but there's only three hundred there. So maybe the rest 108 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:26.319 are coming, but at this point there are three hundred. 109 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:30.480 They are surrounding the perimeter of the LA Federal Building. 110 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:32.959 They are not out on the streets. Again, I'll play 111 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:34.920 a clip for you Karen Bass talking about they're not 112 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:36.079 supposed to be out on the streets. 113 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:36.439 They're not. 114 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:41.959 I watched it yesterday afternoon and yesterday evening and again 115 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:48.519 this morning, and all I see is black police uniforms. 116 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:54.079 That's the Los Angeles Police Department and the LAPD. Jim McConnell, 117 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:57.680 Jim McDonald who's the chief of LAPD, says that they 118 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:02.240 were overwhelmed and that's when you call for the National Guard. 119 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:06.439 But Gavin Newsom will not do it, and neither will 120 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:10.199 Karen Baston. They both have apparently the authority, especially the governor, 121 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:11.319 have the authority to do that. 122 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:13.639 And Donald Trump. 123 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:19.600 Donald Trump is said and they're going, I'm not going 124 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:25.920 to let this become Portland or Seattle. From his first term, 125 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:31.120 it got out of control, and so this is I 126 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:35.200 think the courts will rule in his favor. Certainly has 127 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:38.919 the authority, it seems to be. But is this then 128 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:42.960 starts about anti ice And there's a number of people 129 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:47.480 that are in these communities in Los Angeles. 130 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:48.440 That are afraid of ice. 131 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:53.000 There against ice because they're family and friends and neighbors. 132 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:56.639 Some of them are here illegally. But what I saw 133 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:00.840 was no National Guard until this morning, and they were 134 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:06.320 around the perimeter of the Federal building. You've got a 135 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:11.600 very weak governor and mayor that are going to sit 136 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:14.480 back and let la burn. And by the way, this 137 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:17.720 is the it started off as anti Eisenmer's. Now the 138 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:23.240 professional agitators have arrived. Yesterday afternoon. The police were talking 139 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:25.519 about we recognize a lot of these people and they 140 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:29.240 arrested twenty seven, but some of them were people that 141 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:32.720 they've arrested before that were quote out exercising their First 142 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:36.960 Amendment rights. No, they're professional agitators. That's what they do. 143 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.960 They run protest. They are supported by paychecks from people 144 00:09:42.159 --> 00:09:45.559 like George Sorows. But you've got the weak governor, you 145 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:47.919 got the weak mayor, and may I point out what 146 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:51.720 happened the last time you had a weak governor. It 147 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:55.440 was in Minneapolis. It was the death of George Floyd 148 00:09:56.000 --> 00:10:04.000 and Minneapolis burned because Tim Waltz did nothing for three days. 149 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:08.159 Then after people begging him to call out the National Guard, 150 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:12.519 he finally did and that squashed the riots. The same 151 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:16.080 thing happened again in Portland, week Mayre, same thing happened 152 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:22.000 in Seattle. Seattle burned, Portland burned, Minneapolis really burned, And 153 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:25.440 so do you want to wait for a week, Governor. 154 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:31.320 One of my other observations yesterday was a lot of 155 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.480 the protesters had Mexican flags. I didn't see any American flags, 156 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:38.879 and that must be it must have been won, but 157 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:39.200 they have. 158 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:41.200 They do this when they riot in La. 159 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:44.120 The people of La there's a lot of a lot 160 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:47.480 of people from Mexico. I don't know whether they're legally 161 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:52.639 or not, but they're but they're they're not assimilating. They 162 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:57.440 are devoted to what they considered their motherland, which is Mexico. 163 00:10:57.840 --> 00:10:59.759 Mexican flags everywhere. 164 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:08.600 So twenty seven were arrested, some of them professional agitators 165 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:12.639 seen before. And the Democrats are lining up behind the 166 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:16.200 rioters for one reason, one reason only, and that is 167 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:22.759 because they have Trump derangement syndrome. They really do not 168 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:26.720 like Donald Trump. And Donald Trump is itching to go 169 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:30.360 after troublemakers like this. He pushes the edge of the 170 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:33.879 law and because of that, he's been sued for everything 171 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:36.120 under the sun. And the courts are going to have 172 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:38.720 to make a lot of decisions about whether he was 173 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:42.879 in the right or wrong. So let's start with Chad Wolf, 174 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:46.080 the former head of the Department of Homeland Security. This 175 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.639 is from yesterday, Yeah, Sunday evening. 176 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:51.240 Right, because we've seen this before. 177 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:54.440 We saw this in twenty twenty when states and governors 178 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:57.240 and mayors said exactly the same thing, which we don't 179 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:59.840 need the federal government. We've got it under control. And 180 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:03.519 the first Trump administration said, great, get it under control, 181 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:06.799 and day after day, week after week, even months at 182 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:09.080 a time, it went out of control. We saw this 183 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:11.679 in Portland, we saw this in Seattle, we're now seeing 184 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:14.480 in Los Angeles. So look, I think what the Trump 185 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:16.480 administration is saying is, look, if you want to solve 186 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:19.039 this locally, then solve it. Make sure that we don't 187 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:22.639 have law enforcement, law enforcement officials in harm's way. But 188 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:24.759 if we don't see any progress, then we're going to 189 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:26.759 take matters in our own hands. We're actually going to 190 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:29.559 defend law enforcement. And I think that's what's going on 191 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:31.720 in the ground in Los Angeles right now. 192 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:36.600 Does what role do you think de escalation needs to be, 193 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:39.320 What role does it have in this situation? And what 194 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.840 should law enforcement be doing to de escalate things. 195 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:44.879 Well, obviously that's again maybe a better question for the 196 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:46.799 governor and the mayor, which don't seem to be doing 197 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.360 a whole lot in this case. Look, I think for 198 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:52.679 law enforcement, you've got law enforcement agents in the community 199 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.360 trying to carry out civil law enforcement or immigration orders, 200 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.759 trying to remove dangerous individuals from those commune unities, and 201 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.279 they are interfered with, they are being thrown rocks at 202 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:08.559 molotov cocktails. This cannot continue in California or anywhere else 203 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:11.120 because what happens is day after day. If this doesn't 204 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:15.000 isn't being addressed, then you get professional protesters, you get 205 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:17.679 professional agitators coming into your community. 206 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:19.720 And I don't think anyone wants that. 207 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:24.080 So I think making sure that law enforcement is apprehending 208 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:27.919 individuals that are violently again crossing that line and doing 209 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:30.919 violent things that we've seen, I think is really important here. 210 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.320 But no doubt, if people want to protest and they 211 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:35.840 want to do it non violently, they should be allowed 212 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:38.039 to do that, and I think law enforcement is there 213 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:40.159 to make sure that they have their rights to do that. 214 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:43.480 But if it crosses the line, you infere with law enforcement. 215 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:47.039 And certainly if you attack law enforcement and destroy property, 216 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:48.679 you need to be held accountable. 217 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:51.279 And so now we have these National Guard troops which 218 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:54.840 have been pederalized, called in by the president not the governor, 219 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:57.200 and now are under the command of the Defense Department. 220 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:00.159 And there are the questions of rules and engagement specific 221 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:02.639 when they're trained to use lethal force. 222 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:04.159 What do you know about that? 223 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:08.879 Well, again, I think this is an interesting debate. We're 224 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:12.120 very concerned in your reporting. Last segment was very concerned 225 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:14.799 about rules of engagement, what President Trump is doing. What 226 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:17.600 you're not reporting on are the is the violent and 227 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:20.120 the the destruction that's occurring there in LA What you're 228 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:23.159 not reporting on are the criminal aliens. 229 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:25.440 That are being removed off the streets of Los Angeles. 230 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:28.159 I think that is really really important to hear you. 231 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:32.919 I hear that if that doesn't or if that continues, 232 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:34.879 then you're obviously going to have more and more law 233 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:38.639 enforcement in there. Look, National Guard is trained to do 234 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:40.720 this type of behavior. We saw it during the first 235 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:43.799 Trump We've seen it during the LA riots back in 236 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.639 the early nineties. I believe they know how to do 237 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:49.480 this mission. They know how to go in there obviously 238 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:53.039 protect law enforcement, making sure that individuals have that first 239 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:55.759 Amendment right to protest. But look, if they're going to 240 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:57.879 cross that line, then they'll obviously take action. 241 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:01.159 So what are their orders and when are they supposed 242 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:04.039 to engage and when do they use lethal force? 243 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:10.000 Well, and you know, my experience tells me that when 244 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:14.320 local law enforcement there becomes overwhelmed, when you know, when 245 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:18.279 you have two hundred or several hundred other agitators and 246 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:22.759 folks that are crossing the line from nonviolence to violent protests, 247 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:25.039 that's when you're going to get the National Guard engaged 248 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:30.720 because law enforcement capabilities are then outmatched. And so that's 249 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:33.360 what the Trump administration is saying. You don't send the 250 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:35.639 federal or sorry, the National Guard in this case into 251 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:40.039 every community because you have local law enforcement usually helping. 252 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:42.879 But I think what we've seen, and there's been reporting 253 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:45.919 where you know LAPD takes two hours to respond to 254 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:47.840 an incident involving ice officers. 255 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:49.120 That's a problem. 256 00:15:49.159 --> 00:15:52.440 That's two hours where law enforcement officials perhaps could be 257 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.000 deadly or seriously I should say injured, And you want 258 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:59.080 to have other assets there, in this case, the National Guard, 259 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:01.440 to protect those off so that they can go out 260 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:02.480 and that they can. 261 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:08.279 Do their job. I just disagree wholeheartedly. 262 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.600 By saying that bringing the National Guard, bringing law enforcement 263 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:14.039 into a community is somehow escalating the situation. The only 264 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.080 thing that's escalating it is the amount of violence against 265 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:19.600 law enforcement. We heard the same thing in Portland and 266 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:23.440 Seattle about more law enforcement in those communities back in 267 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:26.879 twenty twenty was somehow escalating it when local officials simply 268 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.559 were not doing their job and making sure that law 269 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:32.360 enforcement officers were safe. So I disagree saying when you 270 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:35.840 bring a national guard it somehow escalates it. If local officials, 271 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:38.200 whether it's the governor, the mayor or others, had done 272 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.559 their job, let lap do their job, we wouldn't see this. 273 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:42.879 And I think President Trump and. 274 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:45.480 Other members of the cabinet have said, look, you need 275 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:46.960 to do your job. But if you're not willing to 276 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:48.679 do your job, then we're going to come in here 277 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.559 and we're going to protect those law enforcement officials. Now, 278 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:54.039 I only you know, and I'm sure they'll only be 279 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.360 there as much as they're needed to be there. 280 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:59.679 But again, they need to be there to protect ICE 281 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:01.039 law enforcement. 282 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:03.519 And others trying to carry out those immigration orders. 283 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:05.079 And Chad Wolfe was right. 284 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:11.000 Apparently the ICE officers yelled for help, and the LAPD 285 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:13.920 one report said they took fifty five minutes, and other 286 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:18.079 reports that they took two hours to respond. But again, 287 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:23.359 this whole idea that the anchor is portraying is that 288 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:27.319 somehow that this was escalating the situation because they had 289 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:33.079 a because they brought in the National Guard and federalize them. 290 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:36.599 Then there's Karen bass the mayor of Los Angeles. She 291 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:41.039 has been an abject failure about everything that she They've 292 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.599 spent billions and billions of dollars on homeless and they 293 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:47.480 have the worst homeless crisis they've ever had. It continues 294 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:52.079 to keep growing. They've had budget problems in the billions 295 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:56.400 of dollars upside down. She mismanaged everything about the fires 296 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:00.759 in Los Angeles. She's still laying. Listen to this clip 297 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.559 I'll played for you. This is from yesterday afternoon. She 298 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.319 held a small news conference and in that she brought 299 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:11.000 up and we had the fires. You know, the fires 300 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:15.400 had nothing to do with this. So here's Karen Bastrom yesterday. 301 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:19.200 Well, there are a number of protests that are taking 302 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:22.519 place around the city, and unfortunately, in a couple of 303 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:27.079 the areas there has been an unlawful assembly declared. I 304 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:31.119 will tell you that a sense of fear has been 305 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:35.279 created in the city beginning on Friday when numerous workplaces 306 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:39.599 were raided. Initially we were told only violent criminals. I 307 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:42.319 don't know how that relates to a workplace. We have 308 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.599 people that are detained right now and they've not been 309 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.279 in contact with their families, they've not been allowed to 310 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:52.000 have legal counsel, and to me, it just seems like 311 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:55.319 this is intentional chaos. You know. I had talked to 312 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:59.400 representatives of the Trump administration earlier on to tell them 313 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:03.240 that the LUTs Angeles Police Department could control things that 314 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:06.480 were happening here and that there was no need to 315 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:09.839 federalize troops. And so to have this here is really 316 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:13.799 just a provocation and something that was not needed in 317 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:18.160 our city. We're still recovering after five months from the 318 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:23.920 city's worst natural disaster in decades, and now to go 319 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:26.680 through a trauma like this that is really traumatizing the 320 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:31.119 whole city because everybody knows somebody in a city where 321 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:36.599 more than fifty percent our Latino this just sows chaos 322 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:40.200 that is not warranted nor needed in the city of 323 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:41.960 Los Angeles at this point. In time. 324 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:45.680 And I know LAPD, as you just noted, declared some 325 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:48.720 of these gatherings and lawful assembly. Is that something you 326 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:50.200 were made aware of before they did that? 327 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:51.160 Did you okay that? 328 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:53.440 Yes? 329 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:55.799 Well I didn't okay it. I don't run the police department, 330 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:58.160 the chief does, but I was aware of it. And 331 00:19:58.200 --> 00:20:01.160 what I was told is is that the protesters had 332 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:04.759 begun throwing things. So to me, it is most important 333 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:08.559 that everybody be allowed to exercise their First Amendment right, 334 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:12.960 but it absolutely has to be done peacefully. Now with 335 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:16.319 federal troops on the ground, we do not need to 336 00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:19.119 have our city under sage. I remember the last time 337 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:21.079 federal troops were on the ground here, and it was 338 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:24.599 in nineteen ninety two when there was massive civil unrest. 339 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:28.079 Nothing like that is happening here, So there is no 340 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:31.279 need for there to be federal troops on our ground 341 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:31.799 right now. 342 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:35.319 And Mayor, we've seen since the federal troops arrived, there 343 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:38.759 were those clashes earlier today, and then we saw LAPD 344 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:42.079 essentially trying to build some space between where the protesters 345 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:45.880 were located, where the National Guard troops were located, try 346 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:47.880 to spread them out a bit. Now, obviously they're trying 347 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:51.720 to disperse them. I'm curious if, now that the National 348 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:54.039 Guard troops are there on the ground, if there is 349 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:58.240 any urgency on the police department's part to really put 350 00:20:58.279 --> 00:21:03.759 out an even stronger force and a stronger posture to 351 00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:06.559 get this under control. So you can, and I know 352 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:09.200 your governor has said that they don't want that. He's 353 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:13.680 formally requested that the National Guard troops go back, that 354 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.759 they're not needed. Were those things correlated. 355 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:22.400 Well, I absolutely agree with the governor in asking that 356 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:25.519 the troops be withdrawn. I don't think that as a 357 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:28.799 way to bring peace in Los Angeles. I think that 358 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:33.079 our law enforcement officers can handle this situation. But I 359 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.680 just have to repeat again, it's a feeling here of 360 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:41.119 intentional chaos in a situation that had not broken out 361 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:44.640 to violence short of a few people. And there's nothing 362 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:48.480 unusual about that, and our police departments can manage that. 363 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:51.640 But it is as though troops were rolled out in 364 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:54.880 a provocative manner, and I do not see how that 365 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.680 is helpful to Los Angeles right now. It's not the 366 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:00.880 type of resources that we need in the city. You 367 00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:03.960 and the governor both said this is that they're at the. 368 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:07.599 Presence of those National Guard troops. Is incendiary, is what 369 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:10.160 we're seeing right now? What you were afraid would happen? 370 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:16.519 Well, absolutely, I mean again, it's hard to describe the 371 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:19.720 depth of the fear in the city because of the raids. 372 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:22.720 I mean, you had a home depot day laborer center 373 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.799 where people were literally running through the parking lot and 374 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:29.119 it was reported that they had been chased. We had 375 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:32.079 a graduation that was taking a few blocks taking place 376 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.960 a few blocks away. I know that there were parents 377 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:37.519 who are conflicted with whether or not they should even 378 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:41.759 go to their own kids graduation because maybe they wouldn't 379 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:44.599 be maybe they would be detained, maybe it would be disrupted. 380 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:47.359 The last time this happened several years ago, in the 381 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.519 first administration, you had kids that wouldn't go to school 382 00:22:50.559 --> 00:22:53.119 because they were afraid their parents wouldn't be there. You 383 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.359 had people that wouldn't go to work, and you just 384 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:58.200 think of the ripple effects. You have people on the 385 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:02.119 west side of town, are away from downtown, who might 386 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:05.920 employ people in their houses that have green cards that 387 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:09.480 are there legally, But now people are even concerned about that. 388 00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:11.519 Just because I have a green card, does that mean 389 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:14.119 I'm protected? Will I be picked up to will I 390 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:17.200 be detained? Are my relatives that are detained? Are they 391 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.759 even still in the United States? We know they're not 392 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:23.240 in Los Angeles, They're in an adjacent county, But these 393 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:26.680 people don't even know if their family members are still 394 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:29.960 here or whether they were flown back quote unquote home. 395 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:32.640 I would argue that Los Angeles is home, or maybe 396 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:35.240 they were even sent to another country that they have 397 00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:39.839 no relationship with, like the people that were sent to Venezuela, 398 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:42.559 and they are not Venezuelan. So this is a sense 399 00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:45.759 of chaos and fear, and it's just the last thing 400 00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:48.920 that Los Angeles needs right now at this point in time. 401 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:50.240