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<v Speaker 2>A very happy Friday eve to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Made even extra special because I'm pleased to welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the fifty five CARC Morning Show, Senator Rand Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, Senator Paul. I love having you on the

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<v Speaker 1>morning show. My listeners love you too. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Pleasure is all mine and my listeners. Let's start at

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<v Speaker 2>the border.

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the reasons Donald Trump won, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean and handily won the election is because of the

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<v Speaker 1>chaos the Biden administration unleashed on the American public at

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<v Speaker 1>large by not shutting down the border or doing something

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<v Speaker 1>to control the unmitigated massive flow of humanity screen people

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<v Speaker 1>in Democrat cities, the blue Democrat cities are screaming their

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<v Speaker 1>bloody heads off at town halls and public meetings, yelling

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<v Speaker 1>at their Democrat mayors for not doing something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The resource is being soaked up, schools are overwhelmed. Are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to get some sense back on the board order?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we shut it down? And can we even unring

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<v Speaker 1>the bell? Of the millions that have already flown into

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<v Speaker 1>our country.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the answer is yes on all fronts. I

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<v Speaker 3>think on day one, President Trump will reinstitute probably over

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<v Speaker 3>ninety executive orders that Biden removed. So during the first

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<v Speaker 3>Trump administration he had over ninety executive orders that did

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<v Speaker 3>help to shut down the border. We believe that Congress

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<v Speaker 3>has given him a great deal of latitude. We've read

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<v Speaker 3>the immigration law and we think he can go further

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<v Speaker 3>than he's gone in the past. We believe that allowing

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<v Speaker 3>migrants to come in for political asylum, the entire process

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<v Speaker 3>is optional, so we think you don't have to begin

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<v Speaker 3>the process. We believe that the president has the power

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<v Speaker 3>when people are in the middle of the river or

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<v Speaker 3>getting out of the river, simply to put them back

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<v Speaker 3>on the Mexican side. And that's what I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>be advocating. I'm going to have a hearing on this

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<v Speaker 3>before the president has sworn in. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>called Remain in Mexico, and we will have this hearing

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to encourage him to interpret our migration

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<v Speaker 3>laws to say that if you come in illegally, you're

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<v Speaker 3>ineligible for migration or for asylum and then you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to go through this year's long process of appeals.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the people who have already come, I believe they

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<v Speaker 3>can be their parole can be revoked. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 3>like a criminal proceeding. They're out on parole pending a trial. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the trials happened in four years, and you can never

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<v Speaker 3>find them and nobody enforces it. If Trump comes in

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<v Speaker 3>and says, well, two million young adult men came in

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<v Speaker 3>last year and we're worried whether they're criminals. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to revoke their parole and immediately have their trials, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you could go forward with that. People say there

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<v Speaker 3>aren't enough judges. I think every border agent can be

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<v Speaker 3>deputized to a judge the case on whether or not

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<v Speaker 3>someone is validly in the country, and so no. I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of this can be reversed, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just a matter of willpower. Biden had no will power.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Trump comes in with a mandate on the border,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think you will see action.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I would think you would see corollary action

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<v Speaker 1>on the part of the Mexican government, who, if stuck

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<v Speaker 1>with all of the would would be entrance into the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, or they're standing in the northern side of

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<v Speaker 1>the Mexican border. The Mexican government isn't going to want

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<v Speaker 1>to allow that to happen. They're going to stop them

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<v Speaker 3>We have too, the Mexican government controls only about maybe

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five percent of Mexico. The twenty five percent is

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<v Speaker 3>really controlled by the cartels. So the Mexicans probably will

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<v Speaker 3>try and they could block their southern border for people

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<v Speaker 3>coming in that They probably have more ability on their

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<v Speaker 3>southern border than their northern border. But yeah, they could

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<v Speaker 3>choose to control their borders and otherwise they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be stuck with these people, many of whom have been

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<v Speaker 3>released from prisons in Venezuela and Colombia different places. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's all kinds of things now. One of

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<v Speaker 3>the rules that Trump had put in place during his

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<v Speaker 3>to apply for asylum in our country, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>do it from a country that is, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>one that is a danger. If you're standing in a

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<v Speaker 3>if you're standing in Mexico and they're not the ones

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<v Speaker 3>persecuting you. You say it's Venezuela. You've got to apply

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<v Speaker 3>from Mexico. You don't get to apply from the US.

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<v Speaker 3>You stay in the safe country, because it'd be no

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<v Speaker 3>so many of these asylums. What he was doing with

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<v Speaker 3>or in the process, and they got tired of that.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to come in here and get as much

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<v Speaker 3>want to stay in northern Mexico, so it deters them

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>And this obviously has become a very popular thing, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of closing the borders because our own all of

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<v Speaker 1>our resources being taxed. I mean, even the most liberal

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<v Speaker 1>individual in this country has a list of things they

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<v Speaker 1>of the additional dollars, to the extent we even have any,

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<v Speaker 1>are going to deal with this insane cost of dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with the migrants that are already here. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel so sorry for children who are trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>an education. Sending a class with you fifty brand new

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, imagine if you live in a Texas border town

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<v Speaker 3>at the local hospital and the hospitals overwhelmed with people

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<v Speaker 3>coming in from another country. You know, the hospitals really

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<v Speaker 3>in these border towns do become overwhelmed, and it's difficult

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I suppose, and the media love through for this

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<v Speaker 1>is mass deportation, But when you're talking about focusing at

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<v Speaker 1>least first and foremost on the outright adjudicated criminals, there's

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<v Speaker 1>very little argument that one can raise an opposition into

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the public was horrified by what happened

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<v Speaker 3>think they were horrified to find out that there's supposedly

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<v Speaker 3>just horrified by that it didn't appear that Biden did anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we have thirty five thousand FBI agents, many

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<v Speaker 3>of them you know, working on speech censorship. They can

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<v Speaker 3>be reassigned from censoring my speech online and maybe sent

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<v Speaker 3>them after some of these criminals. So I think if

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<v Speaker 3>we had an all points bulletin, all hands on deck,

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<v Speaker 3>and we went after these, you know, if you were

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<v Speaker 3>able to announce that he arrested a thousand wanted criminals

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and those resources are better spent of chasing down

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous criminals than seventy two year old women who might

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<v Speaker 1>have walked into the Capitol building on January six. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>moving away, what was your response to the Select Committee's

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<v Speaker 1>report on COVID. I was just shocked by what they

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<v Speaker 1>revealed in that one Senator r and Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they did a lot of good stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>they Matigulsi went through and interviewed a lot of these people,

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<v Speaker 3>including Anthony Fauci, and you know, the conclusion that Anthony

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<v Speaker 3>Fauci was dishonest that he had lied to the committee,

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<v Speaker 3>I think is what we expected. I will become a

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<v Speaker 3>chairman in January, god Willing, and I'm going to use

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<v Speaker 3>that power to continue to look for the records because

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<v Speaker 3>I believe the funding of the lab was approved by

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Fauci, but I also believe that he purposely exempted

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<v Speaker 3>the research from the normal safety committee. So in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>they set up a big committee, a safety committee to

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<v Speaker 3>look at dangerous gain a function research, and yet the

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<v Speaker 3>Wuhan research that he funded never went before the committee.

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<v Speaker 3>And the question is why. He says, well, my sign

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<v Speaker 3>just told me and gain a function. So we've asked,

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<v Speaker 3>let's see the deliberation. We'd like to see the argument

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<v Speaker 3>you're scientists made. Because this error led to a million

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<v Speaker 3>Americans dying and fifteen million people dying around the world,

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<v Speaker 3>we want to know which scientists argued what and why

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<v Speaker 3>they thought it was safe to do this research instead.

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<v Speaker 3>None of that has come out. But I've been talking

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<v Speaker 3>to all of Trump's appointees. I'm ecstatic about most of them.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Marty McCarey will be at the FDA. He's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Jay Baticharia at NIH amazing. I met Dave Weldon who

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<v Speaker 3>will be at the CDC, amazing, Robert Kennedy at the

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<v Speaker 3>head of HHS, amazing. All of these people have pledged

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<v Speaker 3>not only to me, but really in public life to

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<v Speaker 3>get to the bottom of this. So instead of me

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<v Speaker 3>fighting with bureaucrats and getting nothing and being stonewalled and

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<v Speaker 3>having to take them to court, I think we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to have a friendly administration, and I fully believe that

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<v Speaker 3>there must be something there because they've tenaciously fought to

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<v Speaker 3>keep these records from me.

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<v Speaker 1>You were elected, along with the rest of the House

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<v Speaker 1>and Senate to do oversight. You are performing a function

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<v Speaker 1>on behalf of the American people. Those people who are

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<v Speaker 1>stonewalling you, Senator Ran Paul and the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>elected officials are supposed to be answerable to you, and

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<v Speaker 1>the idea under any circumstances that they would refuse this

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<v Speaker 1>information from you when you have formed a select committee

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<v Speaker 1>to look into it, I find absolutely appalling and inexplicable

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<v Speaker 1>absent as you point out something the farious going on

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<v Speaker 2>So we've sent.

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<v Speaker 3>Letters and they're not signed by just me. Some of

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<v Speaker 3>them are signed by me, some are signed by the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat chairman with me. Some are signed by five senators,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's an actual statute that was passed that said

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<v Speaker 3>if any five senators, even if they're also in the

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<v Speaker 3>same party, sign a letter that by law, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to give this information. They resisted all of these, so

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's actually a cause for them to be fired,

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<v Speaker 3>removed from office or even pros does that. And if

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<v Speaker 3>the Trump administration will go after these people, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to find. You know, people on the left say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>the deep state, you're making it up. What is the

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<v Speaker 3>deep state? Well, the deep state are people who have

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<v Speaker 3>the people through their elected officials. That's the deep state,

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<v Speaker 3>and they need to be fired. They need to be

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<v Speaker 3>sent packing. And boy, I am very hopeful.

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<v Speaker 1>I am too, And I love hearing these words out

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<v Speaker 1>of your mouth because you know that fuels conspiracy theories.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, every time this concept comes up, someone usually

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<v Speaker 1>emails me or sends me a message, or otherwise communicates

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<v Speaker 1>about this is because this was all about global population control.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted a lot of people to die and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of myself, you know, really, is that really part

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<v Speaker 1>of someone's agenda? Well, I don't know. They won't let

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<v Speaker 1>us know. They have never explained to us what the

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<v Speaker 3>And that is a real rub, and there is a

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<v Speaker 3>real debate to be had there. And you know, Anthony

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<v Speaker 3>Valci's conclusion was that even if an accident should occur,

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<v Speaker 3>the knowledge gained would be worth the risk. And yet

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<v Speaker 3>many other scientists, credentialed scientist with you know, twenty years

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't see any useful knowledge that's been gained.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's sort of a misplaced curiosity. It's like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>e bowl is really deadly. It's a fifty percent deadly virus.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't we mutate it and see if we can

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<v Speaker 3>get it spread through the air to mammals?

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, well, that's that's a sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>morbid teenage curiosity that some adults should look and say, well, gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>what if it escaped the lab and killed everybody? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it might be a good idea, and yet that's the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing that Anthony Vaalci approved because he had

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<v Speaker 3>a very naive understanding of the dangers of this research.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are many people believe this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>happen again, and so you know, I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 3>everything I can. I have a bill to set up

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<v Speaker 3>a presidential commission to oversee this research such that if

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<v Speaker 3>it's dangerous, this commission we would have the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>stop it. So I'm going to try to get that passed.

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<v Speaker 3>We're right, we're trying to get it passed this year.

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<v Speaker 3>If we don't, we'll try to get it and get

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<v Speaker 3>the help of President Trump next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Senor Rampa on it. We're really out of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you got to get back to your job,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have to ask you quickly because I have

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<v Speaker 1>been excited about the concept. Maybe not that it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have some really wonderful success along the lines that

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<v Speaker 1>was originally outlined, but this DOGE, independent non government office

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to look in and start paring down, get

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<v Speaker 1>riding of fraud, waste and abuse, saving the taxpayers some money.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you optimistic along any lines that Ramaswamy and Musk

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<v Speaker 1>and whoever else joins this can accomplish something well.

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<v Speaker 2>I know of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Ramaswami well and communicating with him. We've advanced him two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand pages the waste. You know, each year I collect

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<v Speaker 3>waste about this time and do my Festivus report on

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<v Speaker 3>my grievance with government with waste. But it's systematically done.

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<v Speaker 3>We have ten years worth of it. We've sent that

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<v Speaker 3>to them. They have that on file. We've told them

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<v Speaker 3>we'll assist them in any way if nothing else. They

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<v Speaker 3>draw great public attention to it, and the public is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, outraged at this. I mean, all I have

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<v Speaker 3>to do is go into the you know, talk to

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<v Speaker 3>the people in the mountains of North Carolina to say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, there's plenty of money going over there

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<v Speaker 3>to help victims in Ukraine and not that it seems

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't seem to be a penny to help you. And

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<v Speaker 3>people get that, and their politicians in North Carolina, many

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<v Speaker 3>of them are the ones promoting sending the money to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think people are mad, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>people are smarter than you give them credit for. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Shrimp On treadmill research. Senator Paul that speaks Voliams outrageous.

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Rampaul, keep it the great work. We all have

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<v Speaker 1>your back. I'll look forward to talking with you again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we won't talk for the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>So Merry Christmas, Happy Hobdays, and a Festivus for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of us. Will look for or to the Festivals

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<v Speaker 1>Report as we do every year. God bless you, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks for spending time with us today.

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<v Speaker 3>Same to you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven fifty five KRC the Talk station. Love that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Love foreign exchange too. Can