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Speaker 1: Kara Bear, thank you for coming on with me today.
Speaker 2: Of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: A thank you for letting me restart a few times there.
Speaker 1: I'm always honest with my audience. I don't want to
Speaker 1: put guard.
Speaker 2: Probably more than that.
Speaker 1: We'll delve into that. Let me ask with all that
Speaker 1: you do, and I always start out with this question
Speaker 1: everything you do. If you had to sum it up
Speaker 1: into one word, not one word, one thing, what is
Speaker 1: your job title?
Speaker 2: I would say, I mean creator pretty is all encompassing.
Speaker 2: But I'm not just a TikToker, so I'm you know,
Speaker 2: I always say I'm an independent adult performer.
Speaker 1: There you go, and doesn't that feel like it doesn't
Speaker 1: cover enough of the.
Speaker 2: Way you do because there's so many things.
Speaker 1: Right, You're a social media manager, You're an editor, at
Speaker 1: some point, you're a writer.
Speaker 2: I'm a producer.
Speaker 1: Oh also hot woman who appears in front of the camera.
Speaker 1: Like we haven't said talent yet there, which is right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So going into this did you have? I got to
Speaker 1: slow myself down, give me one second. Let me ask
Speaker 1: how did you initially decide to move into the adult
Speaker 1: entertainment industry from where you were? Tell me you're story,
Speaker 1: and don't be afraid to talk because my biggest complaint
Speaker 1: is Matt talks over the guests too much. So babble away.
Speaker 1: If that is something you do, I would appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not much of a babbelon. But okay.
Speaker 2: So I got started on TikTok really and I started
Speaker 2: making family content. It was just it was all safe
Speaker 2: for work, and I had lots of inquiries. You know.
Speaker 2: My my page started popping off and a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, so do you have
Speaker 2: this page? And I was like, maybe, like would you
Speaker 2: like that? If I did? Would you want to be
Speaker 2: on there? But that is kind of how it started.
Speaker 2: But but the backstory to it is It's something I've
Speaker 2: always wanted to do. So I wasn't like pushed into it.
Speaker 2: I wasn't like, Oh, all these people want you to
Speaker 2: do this, do this. It was more like an existing seed, sure,
Speaker 2: And it was just kind of the right moment, right time,
Speaker 2: right platforms were available, and I was like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Can I ask? And I've read a little bit of
Speaker 1: your background, so if it seems like a leading question,
Speaker 1: it might be can I was there any I've interviewed,
Speaker 1: you know, almost two hundred performers now, and you hear
Speaker 1: the plethora of different options that could have gotten them
Speaker 1: into it right. A lot there is desperation, and I
Speaker 1: don't mean in a totally negative way. It's somebody who's
Speaker 1: grinding out the day and just goes, I can't fucking
Speaker 1: do this anymore. I need to do so, I need
Speaker 1: to make more money, I need to do whatever. Was
Speaker 1: this any way a financial not grab in a negative way?
Speaker 1: But were you like, money's out there, we might as
Speaker 1: well take it, or were.
Speaker 2: You it was more like venture? Sure, more for the
Speaker 2: adventure of it.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: Uh. The only like I mean, I've had a lot
Speaker 2: of little jobs, but the only like main job I
Speaker 2: had was I was a personal trainer. Sure, I soon
Speaker 2: realized I don't. I didn't like that A lot of
Speaker 2: people that were hard to motivate didn't want to put
Speaker 2: in the work, and me being already very like high
Speaker 2: achieving motivated for myself, it was hard to motivate these people.
Speaker 2: And so it old on. What was the question where
Speaker 2: am I going?
Speaker 1: You know, you hear why people get into this, So
Speaker 1: to me, it sounds like it was more of a
Speaker 1: passion thing. It was more. It wasn't like you were like,
Speaker 1: we don't have anyone to pay rent this month. We
Speaker 1: need right and I'm.
Speaker 2: Very fortunate it was never because of that we have
Speaker 2: we've had. My husband was fully supporting the family. But
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, on TikTok, I had several
Speaker 2: viral videos. I had I think like two hundred something
Speaker 2: thousand followers at this point, I was on a TikTok
Speaker 2: creator thing, but it wasn't bringing in as much money
Speaker 2: as people think it does. And I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't need money, but I could be making more than this.
Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt, Yeah, it doesn't hurt, Like why not?
Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, let's just give this a
Speaker 2: go and it kind of took off.
Speaker 1: So I'm we're going to move into definitely into that,
Speaker 1: into the transition. But my question, you said you did training.
Speaker 1: Were you always a fitness person? I don't know, if
Speaker 1: you can see by my physique, I'm a wonderfully in
Speaker 1: shape guy, and by that I mean it behind a
Speaker 1: computer twenty hours a day. Were you always like a
Speaker 1: fitness person? I always find that fascinating. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you were always a fitness person who felt really
Speaker 1: great working out and exercise on when you were little,
Speaker 1: or if you were a kid that looked like me
Speaker 1: when you were little and you were like, I can't
Speaker 1: fucking do this anymore.
Speaker 2: I was always athletic. Fitness gotcha just doing stuff I did.
Speaker 2: I was a dancer in high school, a bodybuilder in.
Speaker 3: College, and I'm just I kind of have that natural athleticism. Sure,
Speaker 3: I've never really struggled with weight, fortunately, like I got
Speaker 3: lucky in that way.
Speaker 2: But I do. I still work out, Sure, maybe once
Speaker 2: or twice a week. It's less than I used to be,
Speaker 2: but I enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I have read somebody was an icon for
Speaker 1: you to look up to when you were younger and
Speaker 1: I was a little bit shocked by the answer to that,
Speaker 1: and I went, Jamison, Yeah, I want to I want
Speaker 1: to know why. Again, nothing wrong with everyone loves Jenna Jamison, obviously,
Speaker 1: but you know, if you're looking for like a knockout
Speaker 1: or a bombshell, why go to Jenna Jamison and not
Speaker 1: a little more like main like a Pam Anderson or
Speaker 1: a car like Pam Anderson too, like Carmen Electra.
Speaker 2: Like they were all up there. They were all on
Speaker 2: my binder, the binder that almost got banned at school.
Speaker 2: All the guys like looking at it, and I was like,
Speaker 2: give me a bag, it's mine. But Jenna Jameson just
Speaker 2: stuck with me. She was my background on my Space,
Speaker 2: and I started looking up to her since high school.
Speaker 2: Like I don't want to say a year because I
Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, she was because I was I
Speaker 2: was very.
Speaker 1: How do I say this, rebellious, I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Even know rebellious in that aspect, Hi, libido, Okay. I
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed sex. It was and I've always been
Speaker 2: sort of a I'm trying to word this right. Let's see.
Speaker 2: It started when I was very very young, like just
Speaker 2: the the curiosity of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Was it the curiosity of the sex
Speaker 1: then that brought you to someone like Jenna Jamison or
Speaker 1: the curiosity of the stardom? Like, you know, I think
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 2: I a little bit of that, a little bit of both.
Speaker 2: I mean, because she was a star and I looked
Speaker 2: up to her for that and it you know, you
Speaker 2: could become a famous and a star by doing something
Speaker 2: that you enjoyed doing.
Speaker 1: Sure, oh it was something a little that you enjoy doing.
Speaker 1: That from the outside seems fun. Like there's always hardship
Speaker 1: in this industry, and like we said earlier, people don't
Speaker 1: understand like what the job actually entails. But if you're
Speaker 1: just sitting back and you're looking at a porn star,
Speaker 1: you're going, this is one of the most beautiful women
Speaker 1: in the world. Her job is to show up. She
Speaker 1: gets paid half a million dollars to have sex with
Speaker 1: some guy for an hour. What a good look in handsome,
Speaker 1: in shape guy. And then she goes home. It never
Speaker 1: has to think about it again while she counts the
Speaker 1: like from the outside, from the ignorant perspective on the outside,
Speaker 1: you can look at that and go like that that
Speaker 1: is a dream life right there that I'm thinking of, right.
Speaker 2: And there was never the stigma of it or nothing
Speaker 2: really like maybe shy a waf there, you know, lots
Speaker 2: of shaming around it. I didn't realize it was so
Speaker 2: stigmatized until way later I was like, oh wait, I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not supposed to enjoy set like that's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's see. I can't claim that I went
Speaker 1: to enough years of Catholic school where it was like
Speaker 1: it was like no, no, no, no, no, no, just keep
Speaker 1: that thing in your pants, don't sweat it. And yet
Speaker 1: some of those girls turned out to be the most
Speaker 1: less like promiscuous later in life. And maybe that's what
Speaker 1: can I ask And if it's too personal, don't delve
Speaker 1: into it at all. But the relationship you had with
Speaker 1: sex when you were younger, or the relationship or the
Speaker 1: stigma that was put on was a stigma put on?
Speaker 1: It was it almost like a little bit like you
Speaker 1: had to feel this way within a closet and and
Speaker 1: you always were kind of bursting to No, let's figure
Speaker 1: out what's interesting about this. Where was your family pretty
Speaker 1: open about like.
Speaker 2: My family's pretty open cool, Like I was never raised
Speaker 2: strictly religious or I mean, there was some shame put
Speaker 2: on certain things that I wasn't allowed to talk about
Speaker 2: certain things openly. But it's sorry. I keep like, my
Speaker 2: mind keeps going the lank.
Speaker 1: No, it's okay, You're totally good. This is just a conversation.
Speaker 1: I again, my questions are way too fucking long, So
Speaker 1: I apologize for that. My brain is going tag this
Speaker 1: on the end of it, say this one too, So
Speaker 1: I'll keep it more simple because.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll come into these things thinking I don't need
Speaker 2: to prepare, but then I'm asked questions and and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh wait, let me think about this for a second.
Speaker 1: No, you you are welcome to take as much time
Speaker 1: as you want to think about things. You're totally cool.
Speaker 1: You're totally cool. Uh, let me let me transition into this.
Speaker 1: Then you're pretty open that you're a real mom in
Speaker 1: real life, right, not like these and no offense to them.
Speaker 1: And people have kids young. But sometimes you see in
Speaker 1: the industry at twenty three, twenty four year old girl
Speaker 1: and they go, you're a milth now, and you go,
Speaker 1: oh no, oh wow, that's that seems little early.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But also at the same time, you talked about some
Speaker 1: of the struggles you might have had. In an article
Speaker 1: I read about you recently about being a mother and
Speaker 1: how sex kind of falls off after that. Can you
Speaker 1: tell me about your experience.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it when you become a mother,
Speaker 2: and I have, like, I feel like my instincts for
Speaker 2: motherhood were like they shot up like way beyond probably
Speaker 2: a healthy level. But I mean I wouldn't sleep when
Speaker 2: my kids would sleep, I would hover over them, make
Speaker 2: sure they're breathing. So a little a little too too
Speaker 2: much on that, but so I would That was my job, sure,
Speaker 2: is to keep these little humans alive. So everything else
Speaker 2: didn't exist. I didn't exist, you know, that was me.
Speaker 2: That was my identity and I was in that for
Speaker 2: a long time. And I don't want to get emotional.
Speaker 1: I've I don't know how to I don't know how
Speaker 1: to change it to make you nout emotional, but.
Speaker 2: So it, Yeah, it was hard to make time for
Speaker 2: like intimate relations. I was. I breastfed each of my
Speaker 2: kids for a year each, and that changes things for
Speaker 2: that area of the body too. Sure to put sexual stimulus,
Speaker 2: but also you're feeding your baby. Yeah, those don't I
Speaker 2: mean some people make them go hand in hand. But
Speaker 2: I didn't. I couldn't do that. So I didn't like
Speaker 2: that part of me being touched anymore in a sexual way.
Speaker 1: Right, And that isolates a whole I mean that prior
Speaker 1: to kids, that is a sexual part of your body.
Speaker 1: It would be like if a guy said, like, I
Speaker 1: don't want my right ball touched anymore, don't touch it.
Speaker 1: You know, I know it's going to be in the
Speaker 1: way of you doing your whole thing, but just I
Speaker 1: don't want my right ball touched, please please, right, So
Speaker 1: I and it's even a little bigger than that. It's
Speaker 1: almost like I don't want either of my ball touch Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So that kind of you know, hindered something too, and
Speaker 2: it took me a long time to push past that way,
Speaker 2: long after I was done breastfeeding and had to kind
Speaker 2: of bring that part of me back that enjoyed that
Speaker 2: in a sexual way.
Speaker 1: Wow. Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, so then you're in this moment, can I ask,
Speaker 1: and again, if anything ever oversteps the line, you just
Speaker 1: say and we'll cut it out in the after effect.
Speaker 1: But was your husband supportive during this time? Did you
Speaker 1: feel like you could feel him not slipping away to
Speaker 1: other people or anything like that, but emotionally or sexually
Speaker 1: or physically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what it became like roommates.
Speaker 1: Sure, your roommates with a job, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure everyone else with kids would understand, like
Speaker 2: all the efforts and all your attention and focus and
Speaker 2: mental power physical power is going towards the kids, right,
Speaker 2: we would. We would try to make time for each
Speaker 2: other though at eight We would schedule dates, get grandparents
Speaker 2: to watch kids. We try to reconnect the best that
Speaker 2: we could.
Speaker 1: It takes effort, yeah, would this is a dumb question
Speaker 1: because it's not even achievable. Would it be more achievable
Speaker 1: if kids were on a regular schedule like everyone else,
Speaker 1: like babies? If they were like your baby goes to
Speaker 1: sleep at eight pm, he wakes up around six and
Speaker 1: then you know, he chills the rest of the day
Speaker 1: and then seven hits he really gets Would that make
Speaker 1: it easier or is it it was it spent? Change?
Speaker 2: Would because I wasn't sleeping and when I'm tired, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't do anything. I can't put effort into that
Speaker 2: more or less get off like sure too tired?
Speaker 1: Sure I get that.
Speaker 2: I mean we cared to get off, like I just
Speaker 2: need sleep.
Speaker 1: Let me me ask this, did your your husband now is?
Speaker 1: It seems like a central part of your story, but
Speaker 1: also what you do You said, you know early in
Speaker 1: life you were a little bit hyper sexualized in the
Speaker 1: best way possible, in a good way where you you know,
Speaker 1: when you brought this idea to him, hey let's make
Speaker 1: this transition, was he like, I kind of knew this
Speaker 1: was common, like she's a wild chick before all this
Speaker 1: kid stuff happened.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he knew it was coming, because
Speaker 2: I had already moved into this uh mom role for
Speaker 2: so long right that it almost was like, no, that
Speaker 2: she's not like that anymore kind of thing. So I
Speaker 2: don't know if he expected it, because when him and
Speaker 2: I met, I was on my hunt for husband, Like,
Speaker 2: I was not in it for just fun, was more serious.
Speaker 2: I was like, I need a serious relationship. I'm not
Speaker 2: just fucking around. Literally, I'm not just not just partying
Speaker 2: and having one night stands or anything. So where our
Speaker 2: relationships started, it started on a note that this was
Speaker 2: very monogamous. I guess I wasn't too. I mean, we
Speaker 2: enjoyed our sex life dating, but it wasn't crazy adventurous. Sure,
Speaker 2: so so I don't. I wouldn't say he expected it.
Speaker 2: My mom did though.
Speaker 1: Oh that's mom got it though, she understood right off
Speaker 1: the bat. Yeah, yeah, okay, So when you present this
Speaker 1: to him, the idea and talk me through that your TikTok.
Speaker 1: You're doing family content, you're doing safe for work stuff.
Speaker 1: I assume it wasn't any chance at all with your
Speaker 1: busy life. Do you watch Euphoria at all? Or no?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right. The people were catching shit about this
Speaker 1: and everything else in the first few episodes of this season.
Speaker 1: Sydney Sweeney's characters trying to be a safer work but
Speaker 1: edgy racy type thing. Right. I understand that does work sometimes,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that can work unless you have
Speaker 1: the additional on the stuffing. Maybe you can, I don't know.
Speaker 1: So that wasn't in any way what you were doing.
Speaker 1: You were completely safe for work all, you know, bundled
Speaker 1: up and there was no Trapstnahan.
Speaker 2: It solely started getting into little thirst traps. And then
Speaker 2: my family that followed me.
Speaker 1: Was like, the fuck are you doing what? Fish?
Speaker 2: I had some of my family blog me because of it,
Speaker 2: But it's not content for you.
Speaker 1: So so though you're doing this type of content and
Speaker 1: you go to your husband eventually at some point and
Speaker 1: you go, let's let's let's go the let's go the
Speaker 1: opposite direction, let's take the kids out of these videos.
Speaker 1: And also the clothes. I wonder did he embrace it
Speaker 1: like right away or was it one of.
Speaker 2: The know it was it was slowly like a little
Speaker 2: bit of okay, so we you know, from the start,
Speaker 2: we set our boundaries. Okay, so it's just me. I'm
Speaker 2: just showing boops, you know, just you know, lude you know,
Speaker 2: a little nipple here and there. And slowly it was like,
Speaker 2: you know, you push it, you push it a little
Speaker 2: bit because you want to do a little more. And
Speaker 2: and I had people trying to push my boundaries too, sure,
Speaker 2: and it was a learning process of am I comfortable
Speaker 2: with this or am I just doing it because they
Speaker 2: want to give me this amount of money? So a
Speaker 2: lot of times they would they would push and I'd
Speaker 2: be like, wait a second, I'm not doing this for them.
Speaker 2: I'm doing this for me, so I need to enjoy it. Sure,
Speaker 2: And but yeah, eventually I was like, you know, I
Speaker 2: could really use a little extra appendage in my videos.
Speaker 2: And he was like, okay, as long as my face
Speaker 2: doesn't show, and I was like, okay, we can do that, right.
Speaker 2: So but but starting it was the best thing we
Speaker 2: could have done for our relationship because this really ignited
Speaker 2: things for us. We hadn't been this close since before babies,
Speaker 2: so it it changed everything for the better.
Speaker 1: Don't obviously tell me what the job is, but are
Speaker 1: you and your husband would you consider yourselves creatives or
Speaker 1: is that something you kind of had to learn? Like
Speaker 1: did you have an idea on editing and style and
Speaker 1: what you or is that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of something I've always been into. Okay,
Speaker 2: I used to back to like Jenna Jameson and Carmen
Speaker 2: Electra actually used to photoshop my face on Carmen Electra's body.
Speaker 1: Me too, so I had.
Speaker 2: A little experience with that and it, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I did a webmastering classes before. I actually enjoy editing
Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, I learned a lot from editing. Like
Speaker 2: when I'm going back through my scenes and I'm like,
Speaker 2: this was not a good position. We're never doing that
Speaker 2: on again, and or I'll be like, okay, so you
Speaker 2: see what you did there, don't do that. So I
Speaker 2: enjoy it. It's like all a whole.
Speaker 1: Like it just yeah, yeah, yeah, So let's talk about
Speaker 1: some of your content, right. We initially start with telling
Speaker 1: the husband it's a nipple, don't sweat it. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna show a couple of them. What is the first
Speaker 1: boundary that we went like, I assume we had that
Speaker 1: sounds like set hard boundaries early and not imposed in
Speaker 1: a negative way by him, But just the conversation you had,
Speaker 1: this is this is all we're gonna do, which ironically
Speaker 1: might feel a little bit like euphoria this season as well,
Speaker 1: because I thought it wasn't. At some point she was like,
Speaker 1: it's just topless, don't sweat it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it starts for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, for sure, Sure you have to talk someone
Speaker 1: into it a little bit.
Speaker 2: You got to have a starting point, and you need
Speaker 2: to see what you're comfortable with and push boundaries where
Speaker 2: you feel they need to be. If you push ones
Speaker 2: you don't like, you reel it back.
Speaker 1: And yeah, okay, so what was the was the first boundary?
Speaker 1: Then full nudity where you're like, I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to show the last off okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I was like, what after that? I
Speaker 2: think after that it.
Speaker 1: Was him sure, okay, and.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, we slowly evolved from there.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So was there any pushback or did
Speaker 1: he kind of get it? Did you wait for the
Speaker 1: growth to happen and then you could I think that's
Speaker 1: the best way you can present it. Look, I'm showing
Speaker 1: my tits and this is the growth we're seeing. These
Speaker 1: are the positive comments I'm getting? Or was it? It's
Speaker 1: just an easy going okay?
Speaker 2: It helps seeing Oh wow, this much money is coming in. Okay,
Speaker 2: what else can we do?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, give him a little more motivation to
Speaker 2: be my little co performer and make time for it
Speaker 2: and make treat it as a job.
Speaker 1: Was that always in your head where you like, no,
Speaker 1: he's not listening to this, don't worry. Were you always
Speaker 1: deviously planning like eventually I'll get him on camera, like
Speaker 1: we know where this is going. Yeah, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, that's actually fucking sweet. By the way,
Speaker 1: you're not for all the all the people who are
Speaker 1: going to judge performers and everything else and be like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, Caras, she's just some no offense. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying this. This is the nameless person. She's just some
Speaker 1: slot your hod.
Speaker 2: Which I hear a lot all the time.
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, your whole intention was I'd like to get
Speaker 1: closer to my husband after creating this beautiful family. I
Speaker 1: don't know how anyone can like hear that and then
Speaker 1: it's just pure anger. If anyone's sitting there going wow,
Speaker 1: fuck her. Still, it's like, yeah, yady here man, let
Speaker 1: everyone live their life.
Speaker 2: Gives a shit.
Speaker 1: So did you have carry over? I assume you did
Speaker 1: because you had a platform before, But did you have
Speaker 1: any carryover you recognized from TikTok? Was there like Jeff
Speaker 1: Smith one two four, who was always Yeah, there was.
Speaker 2: A lot of really, and that's kind of why I
Speaker 2: think I became as successful as I did, because I
Speaker 2: already had a platform, right and even though it was
Speaker 2: safe for work, you know those married men still uh yeah,
Speaker 2: So there was a there was a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what was the transition like from that to that?
Speaker 1: And I'm talking more on the on the production or
Speaker 1: the admin side. Like with TikTok, I assume you go,
Speaker 1: I'm always going to put something up safe, so we're
Speaker 1: not going to try and get in trouble, and we'll
Speaker 1: do this and that. But did you then go back?
Speaker 1: Were you always such a big fan of porn you
Speaker 1: were like, no, I already have the camera angles planned
Speaker 1: in your mind. Or did you have to go and
Speaker 1: like reference other things? Did you have to go reference
Speaker 1: other people's porn? Other OnlyFans creators And I definitely.
Speaker 2: Get inspiration from other things. If you look at what
Speaker 2: we do now versus what we started doing, there's been
Speaker 2: growth with our performance, with our camera angles, with our
Speaker 2: our quality of camera and yeah, there's always stuff to
Speaker 2: build on, you know, like it's it was good, it's
Speaker 2: better now and it can it can get better too. Sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, what was the first moment where you went, oh, fuck,
Speaker 1: this could be a business. Like, was it the first
Speaker 1: month you saw an explosion and you were like wow?
Speaker 1: Or was it a gradual Yeah?
Speaker 2: It probably was because when I had an influx of
Speaker 2: people come in from TikTok, I was like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: is what we're doing now, this is my life, this
Speaker 2: is this is my job.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, you're always going to get an initial burst.
Speaker 1: So if I'm wrong on this, that's totally fine, you
Speaker 1: can correct me. But everyone always gets the initial burst,
Speaker 1: especially that you had a platform already. Did you ever
Speaker 1: have like a dross a slow little dropdown and how
Speaker 1: did that? Did that discourage you at all or did
Speaker 1: you just go no, fuck it, we gotta be Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was discouraging because I was like, I'm losing them,
Speaker 2: I'm losing them. But it's you got to keep at
Speaker 2: it because you're bringing in new people all the time,
Speaker 2: so you got to focus on not only the content
Speaker 2: that is the explicit stuff, but the content that will
Speaker 2: bring people in. Right, So there's a balance, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And that's why it's like, there's no set amount of income,
Speaker 2: it's just how much do you want to.
Speaker 1: And that's why it's so beneficial to you. Thank goodness,
Speaker 1: right that you your husband's good with his job and
Speaker 1: you can take care of Like we said earlier, no
Speaker 1: one never goes oh more money yuck. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, if your rent's counting on it, that's a
Speaker 1: much more dire.
Speaker 2: So, which would be way more motivating.
Speaker 1: Right, motivating, but also also potentially push you to maybe
Speaker 1: cross boundaries, right, and that's not the relationship you've built
Speaker 1: with both the platform and with your family, right right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're creating content. One of my favorite stories. I've
Speaker 1: counted this a few times, but I interviewed Lily Bell
Speaker 1: and Lily Bell as a speak little girl. Yeah, she's great.
Speaker 1: She told me about this. I asked her what kind
Speaker 1: of stuff do you want to produce? And she goes,
Speaker 1: I want to do this lesbian scene and I want
Speaker 1: it to be very artistic and blah blah blah. I
Speaker 1: think it would be perfect. It's in my mind. I
Speaker 1: love it. I go, how well would that sell? And
Speaker 1: she goes, not very well at all? Okay, Unfortunately, because
Speaker 1: there's a market for certain things, there's a market for
Speaker 1: certain other things. How do you balance something you're passionate
Speaker 1: about versus something you know you're going to want to sell? Like,
Speaker 1: is there do you have to try and find a
Speaker 1: middle grand between these things?
Speaker 2: I think so, because you've got to do what you
Speaker 2: like doing. You got to make the content you enjoy.
Speaker 2: There's I mean, there's a push for for certain things
Speaker 2: that important stars get asked like that don't do certain
Speaker 2: things to do it and like but stuff. Sure, and
Speaker 2: there's there's a big push for that for everyone to
Speaker 2: do that. And if you don't enjoy it, for one,
Speaker 2: it's probably going to show on camera. That you don't
Speaker 2: enjoy it, sure, but that I mean, why would you
Speaker 2: want to make content? I don't know how to No,
Speaker 2: that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Its again, I think it goes back to when people
Speaker 1: cross over from this is a passion thing into this
Speaker 1: is a business. Right. I totally, I totally underst stand
Speaker 1: when people say these are my hard lines. I've interviewed
Speaker 1: Sarah Jay. Sarah Jay is a storied career, has never
Speaker 1: done an anal scene, will never do an anal scene,
Speaker 1: has no interest in doing an anal scene. Totally get that.
Speaker 1: But I think maybe when people are now we talk
Speaker 1: about commenters, I don't give a shit about who's pushing
Speaker 1: you to do whatever, But if in your own life
Speaker 1: you're feeling like I am a little bit pushed to
Speaker 1: do this, I think you just have to sit back
Speaker 1: and assess yourself and go, am I really or am
Speaker 1: I trying to make other people happy with it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right? Yeah? And that's something too that because I
Speaker 2: would back when I was doing custom videos, people would
Speaker 2: request certain things like anal like ture, and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I guess it's not like my favorite thing, but you're
Speaker 2: offering this, and maybe I could do a custom for
Speaker 2: it just as once. Sure, and then they come back
Speaker 2: you're like, can I get another one like that? Like,
Speaker 2: I guess, But the whole time it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: doesn't get me off? Sure against you? That's it. So
Speaker 2: I had to reel that back. Sure, So I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't. I don't offer it anymore.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Sure, Okay, all right? You do a lot of
Speaker 1: fun roleplay stuff, and you're at this great point where
Speaker 1: you're beautiful enough to be Stepsis and and you look
Speaker 1: great and whatever. And then also you can apply the
Speaker 1: milk roll if you want. What is the trick in
Speaker 1: doing role play to you? Have? You? Do you have
Speaker 1: any kind of like.
Speaker 2: Have a little bit of a sorry, I'm not good
Speaker 2: with words. I guess I have a routine. Okay, yes,
Speaker 2: you would say, so as I'm doing my makeup and
Speaker 2: here I'll be kind of going through, okay, what's our
Speaker 2: scene today? Usually that you don't even know what we're
Speaker 2: doing until I'm doing my makeup, because I need to
Speaker 2: know how I'm going to do my makeup.
Speaker 4: Sure, Like, okay, am I doing more of like the
Speaker 4: big lashes and you know, freckles or pigtails?
Speaker 2: It depends on what we're doing, right, So I'll get
Speaker 2: into character while I'm doing my makeup and here like, okay,
Speaker 2: we're doing steps Is today, So I'll be like, start
Speaker 2: getting my steps is nude and like its kind of
Speaker 2: playing with what lines I'm going to say and just
Speaker 2: get in that mental space. But if I'm doing the
Speaker 2: step mom, I'm going to be a little bit more.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going to have pigtails, and so
Speaker 2: I'll be like probably more more like this, and I'll
Speaker 2: start getting into lines and rehearsing them and getting in
Speaker 2: that mindset for that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. I've been with my wife for eighteen years now.
Speaker 1: I think we met when we were like nineteen years old,
Speaker 1: and only recently did I try and get her into
Speaker 1: dirty talking, okay. And the problem is we are both
Speaker 1: so sarcastic and sardonic, and you know, like I'd be like, ooh,
Speaker 1: you like when I grab your tits and she'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels real nice facts and it's like, oh you
Speaker 1: just like my dick's gone. Now.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like that a little bit too. That's
Speaker 2: that's us actually a difficult thing dirty talking, and for me,
Speaker 2: it's a whole other thing besides just performing your hat.
Speaker 2: I mean, it goes with it, but it's another layer
Speaker 2: to it, and knowing what to say in the right tone.
Speaker 2: There's things I've said and they come out like like
Speaker 2: I didn't That's not what I wanted to say, and
Speaker 2: it makes it awkward. And but also comedy is like
Speaker 2: in the back of my brain to so I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 2: you want to get me pregnant again and we have
Speaker 2: to deal with the sleepless baby on the like that's
Speaker 2: what comes in my mind when that stuff pops.
Speaker 1: Up and you can't put that out right. Have you
Speaker 1: ever done like a funny one like that? I wonder
Speaker 1: to know, see I wonder if that's like the Lily
Speaker 1: Bell thing. Like all I want to do is see
Speaker 1: a scene of you shooting something funny and then at
Speaker 1: the end I would be like, you know, okay, I
Speaker 1: don't need to watch that again, but it was.
Speaker 2: I have I have bloopers that I'll send out that's funny, okay,
Speaker 2: of just the process of or like you know, the
Speaker 2: clip of like him in position air humping just to
Speaker 2: make sure the camera like it's catching everything and just
Speaker 2: you know, just flaccid, just just going for it, just
Speaker 2: making sure. We gotta make sure sure and or like
Speaker 2: just like certain positions will make me like sucking a
Speaker 2: lot of air, just you know, letting those rip. That's
Speaker 2: all in like bloopers and stuff.
Speaker 1: Let me ask though, as as a real mom when
Speaker 1: you're doing a step mom scene or anything like that
Speaker 1: is the key to just separate how it? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a weird thing, right, Yeah, how do you intercept? And
Speaker 1: was that ever a boundary where you were like first
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: Like, there's no way I'm doing that. It's too close
Speaker 2: to home, right, And but there was. And that goes
Speaker 2: back to the doing things you like versus doing things
Speaker 2: that sell. Right. Even though Steps just does good, but
Speaker 2: my milk step Mom does really good. So I enjoy
Speaker 2: the Steps this content probably like just being kind of
Speaker 2: playful with it. The stepmom stuff, I enjoy it, but
Speaker 2: not as much. But there's a there's more people like it.
Speaker 2: People just love it. So I'm like, okay, And but yeah,
Speaker 2: there is a separation. I have to because sometimes it
Speaker 2: can feel a little yes.
Speaker 1: So how do you push yourself away from that? If
Speaker 1: it feels I do it?
Speaker 2: You're just trying to, like, how.
Speaker 1: The do I do that, Jesus, If.
Speaker 2: I do that, I think I think of a guy husband, sure,
Speaker 2: in terms of a younger guy, but not like a.
Speaker 1: Different steps sound sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: You know, like a younger guy like twenty three gotcha?
Speaker 1: Gotcha?
Speaker 2: Okay, and it kind of has that like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: more more sure, more experience than you kind of feel. Still,
Speaker 2: but it's not my step son, gotcha, and he's not
Speaker 2: that young.
Speaker 1: Okay. Thank you for clarifying. You wanted to make sure. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now you did your first girl girl seeing right with
Speaker 1: a person I had on this show, I believe if
Speaker 1: it's wrong, Mazie Mazie Monroe, Yeah, I love her. I
Speaker 1: think she's an artist, a kid.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: How did that come about? And and was that a boundary?
Speaker 1: Because again to the audience that says I talk about
Speaker 1: my life too much, I've always told my wife you
Speaker 1: can cheat not you can. You can cheat on me
Speaker 1: with a guy, you can't cheat on me with a girl.
Speaker 1: And by that I mean I don't want you.
Speaker 2: I'm in that, that's where your boundaries are. For that.
Speaker 1: I'm an apple. I don't want you hooking up with
Speaker 1: other apples. If you need an orange, just let me
Speaker 1: know and like, you know, maybe like a watch who
Speaker 1: fucking knows, Yeah, just tell me details about it later.
Speaker 1: So I assume again we start the boundaries on. I'm
Speaker 1: just showing my tits, I swear, and now you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I think I want to go down on this chick?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: How do we grow into that? Was it simply just
Speaker 1: the success of the only thing.
Speaker 2: I wanted to give the fans a little bit something more.
Speaker 2: I was like, We've been doing this, I'm not collaborating
Speaker 2: with other men, but I still want to give them
Speaker 2: something different. We've done different role plays, I've done a
Speaker 2: little cosplay. I was like, what else can we add?
Speaker 2: So but a fan was like, oh, would you ever
Speaker 2: collaborate with another person that I really like? And I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, okay. So I talked to my husband
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: Sure, and we're like.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you can be there or not and
Speaker 2: we'll just do something light and it went well, Like
Speaker 2: he was he recorded it.
Speaker 1: Now, did you present to him that it was Mazie
Speaker 1: Monroe and go through it or were you like, like
Speaker 1: to do something with another performer here's Lexington Steele. Was
Speaker 1: it was the you weren't going to surprise him with anything.
Speaker 1: I assume you go into this and you go one hundred.
Speaker 1: Actually the person because.
Speaker 2: We met her before we ever did anything, gotcha?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So so when I was like, oh, I think i'd
Speaker 2: want to collab with Mazie, he was like, oh that's
Speaker 2: that girl we met it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, all right, So then tell me
Speaker 1: about that collaboration and what did that teach you? Did you, Mazie,
Speaker 1: I assume was already like well established at this point
Speaker 1: and had a career. Did you kind of give up
Speaker 1: controls on this and go what would you do? Was
Speaker 1: it a fully fifty to fifty?
Speaker 2: I think I kind of put it in her control
Speaker 2: a little bit because she's been with girls before. I
Speaker 2: mean I have back in the day, but like as
Speaker 2: little drunk hookups.
Speaker 1: Sure not not this and not.
Speaker 2: Her performance, not a but I mean there's some crossover
Speaker 2: from being with my husband performing. We know camera angles,
Speaker 2: we know how to put on a performance. So but
Speaker 2: she kind of took the lead on because I'd never
Speaker 2: scissored before, neither waiting. It's like how do I do this?
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, we need lube? Oh, like
Speaker 2: because I didn't know, sure, and it was a learning experience.
Speaker 2: But that's what made it fun too, all this new stuff.
Speaker 1: So you had, like, you know, hookups in the past
Speaker 1: or whatever, but this is like the first time. This
Speaker 1: is like a real like I'm doing something a little
Speaker 1: bisexual here I'm doing Was that a turn on for you?
Speaker 1: Was it a fear for you? I assume you weren't.
Speaker 2: About doing it? Right? Does it feel good?
Speaker 5: Because I, you know, I've done that with man and
Speaker 5: I'm kind of I've gotten good at that, but like
Speaker 5: how many fingers you want to lick the same time.
Speaker 1: Like you've had the parts, but it's almost like you're
Speaker 1: learning how to work with a new version of it, right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: And that's what made it fun to you though, because
Speaker 2: I love learning the stuff. I like a challenge. And yeah,
Speaker 2: sure it was good.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll say Mazie was the best teacher in
Speaker 1: the world. But let me just ask this. Did it
Speaker 1: feel like a huge step for you or once it started?
Speaker 1: Were you comfortable?
Speaker 2: Were you like, h once I started it was, I
Speaker 2: was comfortable, gotcha? Gotch I was like, okay, this is
Speaker 2: this is easier than I thought. Okay, And and it
Speaker 2: turned out good.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So what did you learn from that
Speaker 1: first girl girl scene about yourself, either sexually or did
Speaker 1: you learn anything?
Speaker 2: The way I learned is that I like to cut
Speaker 2: the camera a lot more. I like doing things in
Speaker 2: little snippets, little little phases. Maze was like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: let's fine, just keep rolling. Just let's just keep rolling.
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, so you know, I might not
Speaker 2: say what I think is the best thing to say,
Speaker 2: but it's going to go out there to be honest.
Speaker 1: It feels feels a little bit more authentic, then feels
Speaker 1: a little more genuine. It's like, no, this is a recap.
Speaker 2: It was a one cake thing like that. It was
Speaker 2: like we're rolling and everything that we did we did
Speaker 2: for the first time. But at home it's like, we'll
Speaker 2: do I mean just at the beginning a year intro
Speaker 2: we you know, we will do several takes. Still, it's
Speaker 2: it's what I want.
Speaker 1: Let me ask this, how tied in is your husband
Speaker 1: in terms of where you are now? Because he still
Speaker 1: has the other job. Obviously that you've said and this
Speaker 1: and that, but is it more? This is Kara's project,
Speaker 1: and I will help when she needs me to I'll.
Speaker 2: Be starting becoming more more with him, okay, because he
Speaker 2: sees how far I've come with it, and I mean,
Speaker 2: how far we've come with it. It's he's part of it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, we really need to dive into
Speaker 2: this and put our apples into baskets that are rewarding us.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I was also like, what, you know,
Speaker 2: you could quit your job and then we could like
Speaker 2: put more into this, but we're like, Noah, because we
Speaker 2: got that health insurance and all the other pluses that
Speaker 2: come with that.
Speaker 1: I interviewed a newer girl that was coming up through
Speaker 1: the OnlyFans' ranks and she's she's now my best friend
Speaker 1: in the industry kat Karma orgasmic, and she got to
Speaker 1: the point with her husband where they realized we are
Speaker 1: leaving money, a lot of money on the table by
Speaker 1: not dedicating our full time to this. It's almost like,
Speaker 1: you know, if your wife has a job and she
Speaker 1: makes a thousand dollars a month and child cares fifteen hundred,
Speaker 1: you might as well fucking stay home. We're losing out
Speaker 1: on this right So you know, knock on wood. I
Speaker 1: hope for you it gets to the point where your
Speaker 1: husband goes. Dude, I'm losing so much money going into
Speaker 1: work every day. We need to fucking you know this, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So how are you going to approach collaborations differently? And
Speaker 1: how have you approached collaborations differently? This seems like it
Speaker 1: was you kind of put the feelers out there, you
Speaker 1: found a great person to work with that or someone's
Speaker 1: comfortable and everything else. How have you done it since then?
Speaker 1: How are you going to do it forward? Are you
Speaker 1: going to take more of the show?
Speaker 2: And so I've been with four women total, and they've
Speaker 2: all been very similar. We do a little tiny bit
Speaker 2: of role play. I would like to do more role play.
Speaker 2: My husband and I on our scenes, we do a
Speaker 2: little bit more extensive role play, sure, and to really
Speaker 2: build that dynamic and do a little character development in
Speaker 2: the fastest amount of time you can. But I'd like
Speaker 2: to do that more with with my female collaborations.
Speaker 1: Gotcha.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When you won your award, first off, what was the
Speaker 1: award for?
Speaker 2: It was for the XMA Creator Wards Female Clip Creator
Speaker 2: of the Year and that was twenty twenty five last year.
Speaker 1: Did that just blow your fucking mind?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: When I never thought this is no offense. I think
Speaker 1: you went did you go up against Hailey Rose.
Speaker 2: Hailey Rose? I think Jules Blue, Ellie Clutch, some other
Speaker 2: like big names were in there.
Speaker 1: There's no way, dude, no offense at all to you.
Speaker 1: Those people are covering my fucking timeline every single day.
Speaker 1: So to be able to pull out that win really
Speaker 1: speaks a lot to the fan commitments. They said the
Speaker 1: wrong name up there, my bad. Uh that's crazy, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Like the first year we were we I had a
Speaker 1: co host at the time, we're nominated for an AVN.
Speaker 1: We put nothing out. We just you know, we put nothing.
Speaker 1: I maybe did one tweet that went out to like
Speaker 1: four hundred people. And it's just the most validating feeling
Speaker 1: having other people go, at least for me a nomination, Hey,
Speaker 1: you deserve this. What did it feel like for a
Speaker 1: win where it was like, not only do you deserve
Speaker 1: to be in the group, you are her?
Speaker 2: I felt like, not only do I have like my
Speaker 2: fans love me, they tell me all the time they
Speaker 2: love me, but to have everyone in the industry kind
Speaker 2: of know me now, Yeah, that was I felt included.
Speaker 2: I felt seen, I can finally one of you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so. Yeah, that's amazing here. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: heard you want to look into You're not opposed to.
Speaker 1: I've interviewed people that go, I don't ever want to
Speaker 1: do studio work, have no interest in doing it, and
Speaker 1: I want to. You have commented and said you would
Speaker 1: like to.
Speaker 2: I would love to try it, Okay, all right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it would be. It would be a whole
Speaker 2: different thing. You got camera crews, you got the whole.
Speaker 2: If they do your hair and makeup, you know, I've
Speaker 2: never had that, They give you lines. I don't even
Speaker 2: know if I'll remember my lines. But I'd like to
Speaker 2: try it and see it and give it a good
Speaker 2: and give it my best.
Speaker 1: Now does the issue come in finding the right thing?
Speaker 1: And let me ask this, where is the comfort level
Speaker 1: in the home? I assume this would be a lesbian scene, right,
Speaker 1: it would have to be, gotcha? Okay, So that that
Speaker 1: is a firm boundary we are going to stick to that.
Speaker 1: We're not going full swinger lifestyle here. We're content creators
Speaker 1: in this aspect, right Okay, Yeah, all right, that's fair.
Speaker 2: And I've been it's been something.
Speaker 1: Oh I apologize. I'm going to show you that afterwards.
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever if you want. I've had some some pretty
Speaker 2: well known male creators reach out and I've had to
Speaker 2: turn them down now, So it's been a little internal
Speaker 2: struggle for me with Dob.
Speaker 1: Gotcha. And but are you able to let's be honest again,
Speaker 1: who's not listening to this? Are you putting little hints
Speaker 1: in the ears at all? Like you know?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but it's such a hard bound gotcha?
Speaker 1: And at some point, you know, maybe you don't feel
Speaker 1: this way, maybe you do. I feel like it sounds
Speaker 1: like he has been supportive in everything, he has been helpful,
Speaker 1: He has been right there with you, Like, I'm so grateful.
Speaker 2: That he's done what he's done.
Speaker 1: Sure, you know, and maybe maybe someday that boundary gets touched,
Speaker 1: but you know what if it doesn't, he has you know,
Speaker 1: he's he deserves credit, right can we say that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: For sure?
Speaker 2: And I'm and there's people that they have been very
Speaker 2: successful in this industry that haven't collabed with anybody other
Speaker 2: than their partner. Which if we're going down that route, like,
Speaker 2: let's make sure we uh get to where we need
Speaker 2: to be. I don't let's I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know I'm bad with words, But what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: if I if like, if I don't collab with with them,
Speaker 2: then we go to make it.
Speaker 1: Just as good ourselves, right you go, Well, collabing with
Speaker 1: this person in this high level type thing would present
Speaker 1: this type of content at the end of it. I
Speaker 1: understand you don't necessarily want me working with this person
Speaker 1: or this type whatever. Let's elevate our stuff so I
Speaker 1: can say I have something very so so we.
Speaker 2: Can still grow.
Speaker 1: But still, yeah, I think that's great. And to me
Speaker 1: that is exactly what you said early on on that
Speaker 1: I don't think you use the term type A but
Speaker 1: the go getter, the yes, get this done. You don't
Speaker 1: ever seem complacent. It's never just I'm good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean there's things I try and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I didn't like it, gotch But yeah, this isn't one
Speaker 2: of those. This is like we're mastering it.
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, ladies and gentlemen. My guests for today, Cara
Speaker 1: Beer K E R A B E A R links
Speaker 1: to everything or in the episode description. Website is very
Speaker 1: similar to that, so make sure you check that out. Carrot,
Speaker 1: what is the ultimate goal of this and my last
Speaker 1: question here. What is what is the end goal? Would
Speaker 1: you love to get to the point where you could
Speaker 1: quote unquote retire your husband, where you could be like
Speaker 1: and that.
Speaker 2: Would be I don't even think I've thought that far. Sure,
Speaker 2: I would just love some recognition for for all that
Speaker 2: we've done. I guess I think that. And money's great too,
Speaker 2: but ultimately making content I enjoy. Yeah, and if other
Speaker 2: people want to watch it and pay for it and great.
Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen, My best, my best, my best,
Speaker 1: your best best bear, my best bear. Well, no, I'm
Speaker 1: going to show you a picture afterwards, but my best bear,
Speaker 1: Cara Bear. You know exactly where you can find her
Speaker 1: links to everything in the episode description. I want to
Speaker 1: say thank you so much for coming on with me today.
Speaker 1: You may not be the best with words, as you say,
Speaker 1: but you get your point across very well and I
Speaker 1: wish nothing but success for you going for Thanks you
Speaker 1: very much