Speaker 1: It's NIC's Eyes with Dan Ray. I'm going you Mazy
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Speaker 2: Madison, get the duck boats ready. Let me tell you
Speaker 2: it's on again, off again anyway, and they have Crochet
Speaker 2: pitching tonight, so I think we can put that one
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Speaker 2: will take you almost through the month of June. Will
Speaker 2: be about two minutes short when we finish the show
Speaker 2: at eleven fifty eight tonight. It will be a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes away from July, the halfway point of the year. Goodness, gracious,
Speaker 2: where's the year gone? We have some four We have
Speaker 2: four very interesting guests, timely topical and most importantly interesting.
Speaker 2: We're going to start off with Julie Heckman. Julie is
Speaker 2: the executive director of the American Pyrotechnics Association. Julie Heckman,
Speaker 2: Welcome to night Side. This is going to be a
Speaker 2: busy week for you, Yes.
Speaker 3: It is, but thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Well, we want to get the word out everybody loves
Speaker 2: to watch fireworks, particularly when they are handled by the professionals.
Speaker 2: We have a great fireworks display here in Boston, both
Speaker 2: generally out over Boston Harbor and then the one over
Speaker 2: the Esplanade concert the Boston Pops concert, which has become
Speaker 2: such a great tradition here in Boston. I'm sure you're
Speaker 2: familiar with that concert, correct.
Speaker 3: I had attended the Boston Fireworks show, and I will
Speaker 3: say it is the most patriotic experience in all of America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the credit goes to the Boston Pops,
Speaker 2: but also to a great gentleman who's no longer with us.
Speaker 2: David Mugar who owned Channel seven here in Boston, which
Speaker 2: is the NBA what was the NBC affiliates now a
Speaker 2: Fox affiliate. But he threw his heart and soul into
Speaker 2: that concert. However, all the fireworks were handled by professionals.
Speaker 2: That is not what goes on in America. There are
Speaker 2: people who tonight are sitting at home who will find
Speaker 2: themselves to the misuse of fireworks injured sometime in the
Speaker 2: next few days. Tell us what people can do to
Speaker 2: avoid getting injured, other than just don't play with fireworks,
Speaker 2: which is obviously the most important caveat that we can
Speaker 2: that we can offer.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you need to obey your local law.
Speaker 3: And you know you're in Boston. Massachusetts is the only
Speaker 3: state that still has a complete prohibition on all backyard
Speaker 3: consumer fireworks. So for your listeners, I encourage you to
Speaker 3: obey that local law. For those who travel out of
Speaker 3: state and want to use fireworks, purchase your fireworks from
Speaker 3: a reputable dealer. Make certain that the packaging is brightly colored,
Speaker 3: contains instructions for use and precautionary warnings.
Speaker 2: Why brought why brightly colored? That strikes me as does
Speaker 2: that mean that they're new and fresh. They haven't been
Speaker 2: sitting there for years.
Speaker 3: No, the professional product that the pros use do not
Speaker 3: have colorful wrapping on them. They are pretty much brown
Speaker 3: paper wrapped and cautionary warnings on them or instructions for use.
Speaker 3: Because professionals know how to use those products. Consumer product
Speaker 3: is required to be in colorful wrapping.
Speaker 2: Good and thank you for Thank you for that clarification.
Speaker 2: What else that should we be concerned about? Obviously I
Speaker 2: interrupted you, but I had to go right ahead. I apologize.
Speaker 3: That's quite all right. You need to have a sober,
Speaker 3: responsible adult in charge of all firework activities. Alcohol and
Speaker 3: fireworks do not mix. That creates a disaster. You should
Speaker 3: never let young children handle fireworks. Even sparklers can be
Speaker 3: dangerous if they're misused. They burn it roughly eighteen hundred
Speaker 3: degrees fahrenheit, and the wire stays hot long after the
Speaker 3: sparkler's finished emitting its shower of sparks. So we recommend
Speaker 3: have a bucket of water handy and toss those hot
Speaker 3: sparkler wires in the bucket and let them soak during.
Speaker 2: The course of an average fourth of July. Let's just
Speaker 2: put it in some historical perspective. How many folks across
Speaker 2: America do suffer a bad fireworks experience? Are we talking
Speaker 2: about dozens, hundreds or what's the number?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: Last year's data indicated there were about fourteen thousand individuals
Speaker 3: who were injured and treated for firework related injuries. Most
Speaker 3: of them were burned to the hands and fingers that
Speaker 3: they were also caused by product misuse, people holding devices
Speaker 3: that are intended not to be held, but to be
Speaker 3: discharged on the ground from a hard, flat level surface.
Speaker 2: Wow, this is something that most people, in particular, I
Speaker 2: assume that the profile of the people who make mistakes
Speaker 2: here are people who are using fireworks and perhaps have
Speaker 2: had a drink or two. But I'll bet you it's
Speaker 2: a lot of young guys. Or am I missing missing
Speaker 2: my guess?
Speaker 3: I know you were right on the mark. And actually,
Speaker 3: our foundation, the American Pyrotechnic Safety and Education Foundation, produced
Speaker 3: a new series of videos trying to target that audience
Speaker 3: between twenty and thirty five where we see a lot
Speaker 3: of just ridiculous and careless mistakes and we have a
Speaker 3: series of videos called Explosive Mistakes. Don't be that guy,
Speaker 3: And it's on our website at Celebratesafel dot org.
Speaker 2: So that is a video message that people can can
Speaker 2: look at and maybe it will make them think a
Speaker 2: little bit about what sort of activities they're going to
Speaker 2: get involved in. About the I'm going to use the
Speaker 2: word clown. What about the clown at the at the
Speaker 2: party who maybe says had a couple of drinks and
Speaker 2: he decides it's a great idea to maybe light a
Speaker 2: firework and flip it towards some people just to scare them.
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you deal with that person because
Speaker 2: that person can do a lot of damage to innocent bystanders. Well.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you know, if I was at a party
Speaker 3: and saw somebody with that type of behavior, I would
Speaker 3: either tell them you're not going to be igniting any
Speaker 3: fireworks or I would tell my family and friends to lease.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it takes it takes a little bit of
Speaker 2: courage to do with a stand up to the to
Speaker 2: the to the person who's misbehaving, or if necessary, just
Speaker 2: just it's just absent yourself from a dangerous situation.
Speaker 4: Well you have to do that.
Speaker 3: And it's really important that people understand fire works are
Speaker 3: safe when they're used properly. But if you don't follow
Speaker 3: the instructions.
Speaker 5: For you, it can create a very serious situation.
Speaker 2: All right, So let's give that website one more time
Speaker 2: where people can get more information and look at these videos.
Speaker 2: Go right ahead, Julie.
Speaker 3: It's the website Celebrate Safely dot org RG and we
Speaker 3: have a lot of safety tips and we have great
Speaker 3: videos that show you how to properly use pretty much
Speaker 3: every type of legal consumer firework there is on the market.
Speaker 2: Celebrate Safely dot org your lips to God's ears. I
Speaker 2: got to tell you, let's hope that everybody celebrates safely
Speaker 2: and that this year, I'm sure I'm being a little
Speaker 2: overly optimistic that no one in America is injured by
Speaker 2: any sort of firework at any caliber. Julie, I appreciate
Speaker 2: your time tonight, very important message, and hopefully my listeners
Speaker 2: will have been paying attention and will follow through and
Speaker 2: that they just enjoy a good time and watch the
Speaker 2: fireworks that are presented to us by the professionals. They're
Speaker 2: always going to be better than backyard fireworks, no doubt.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate your interest, and I wish you would say.
Speaker 4: Fourth of July.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Julie, Heckman, the executive director of the
Speaker 2: American Pirate Technics Association. Thanks, Julie, appreciate it, same to you.
Speaker 2: Well we get back. We're going to talk about a
Speaker 2: different type of tragedy, and that is suicide and what
Speaker 2: do we do about it. Suicide prevention in Massachusetts. The
Speaker 2: samaran is a great organization. They answered one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: calls last year on its twenty four to seven crisis helpline.
Speaker 2: And we're going to be talking with the Samaritans President
Speaker 2: and CEO, Kathy Marchie or Markie. I'm not exactly sure
Speaker 2: we'll get that pronunciation correctly. I used to sit on
Speaker 2: the board of the Samaritans way back in the day
Speaker 2: as a young lawyer and met a lot of great
Speaker 2: people who were involved in that organization trying to help
Speaker 2: those who at some point, and I guess all of
Speaker 2: us at some point have felt really down, whether we've
Speaker 2: attempted or thought about suicide. It's no shame, but there
Speaker 2: needs to be people there to help. In the Samaritans
Speaker 2: are those people. We'll talk about it right after this
Speaker 2: break on Nightside.
Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on.
Speaker 2: Boston's news Radio now fourth of July is a great
Speaker 2: time of year, really, the beginning of summer or beginning
Speaker 2: of vacation, so much to look forward to. And yet
Speaker 2: at any time during the year, some of our fellow
Speaker 2: neighbors and our fellow citizens, fellow Americans get depressed, and
Speaker 2: some of them contemplate suicide, and some of them actually try,
Speaker 2: and some of them actually succeed. And if there's one
Speaker 2: organization that has spent decades trying to prevent suicides from occurring,
Speaker 2: it is the Samaritans. With us now is the president
Speaker 2: and the EO of the Samaritans here in Massachusetts, Kathy Marky. Kathy,
Speaker 2: welcome tonight's side, and I mean that from the bottom
Speaker 2: of my heart.
Speaker 4: Hi, Dan, thank you so much. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: A long time ago. You were probably not, but back
Speaker 2: in the late seventies through the eighties, I was on
Speaker 2: the board of directors of the Massachusetts Samaritans, and I
Speaker 2: knew Monica Dickens, who was the founder of the organization,
Speaker 2: the granddaughter of Charles Dickens. Fill us in, how did
Speaker 2: how did the Samaritans come to be?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's yeah, it's great that you can go back
Speaker 4: to those early days which are so so wonderful well.
Speaker 4: Monica learned about the art or the skill of befriending,
Speaker 4: which is really what most of us want to do
Speaker 4: right when we're connecting with someone that we care about,
Speaker 4: someone that we know. We want to be a good friend.
Speaker 4: We want to connect, we want to listen, not judgementally,
Speaker 4: we want to care about what they're telling us, validate it,
Speaker 4: and so on. Monica learned about this in the UK,
Speaker 4: and she brought it to the United States, forming the
Speaker 4: first Samaritans in the United States in Boston, which is
Speaker 4: our organization, and she is credited with bringing other Samaritans
Speaker 4: to the United States, which are opened over time and
Speaker 4: later some of which have been incorporated into other organizations. Notably,
Speaker 4: she also is credited with getting the barriers erected on
Speaker 4: the Sagamore and Born bridges to help prevent suicides from
Speaker 4: the bridges.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks, someone goes over the Sagamore or the board,
Speaker 2: they should look at the fencing. It curves inward makes
Speaker 2: it much more difficult for someone to climb up and
Speaker 2: literally jump off the bridges where people have yes and
Speaker 2: using that venue for the purposes of ending their lives. Now,
Speaker 2: one thing that many people don't understand that. I understood
Speaker 2: it very well as a TV report order with WBZ
Speaker 2: for many years, is that if there is a murder suicide,
Speaker 2: they do say it's been a murder suicide domestic dispute. However,
Speaker 2: individual suicides, unless it happens to be some really famous person,
Speaker 2: are not covered by local news. I have mixed feelings
Speaker 2: about that. I'd be interested in what your thoughts are
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I think that one of the most
Speaker 4: important things that we want to do when we hear
Speaker 4: news like this is be aware and attentive to the
Speaker 4: needs of the surviving loved ones. And I think sometimes
Speaker 4: we folks may want to rush to understand or ask
Speaker 4: questions or even sadly placed judgment on a scenario, and
Speaker 4: we don't know. Most of us will never know the
Speaker 4: details around anyone's suicide or death by suicide, so it's
Speaker 4: important I think that we think about the loved ones
Speaker 4: and the survivors, and the reporting doesn't necessarily right serve
Speaker 4: those individuals in that time. I think talking about suicide,
Speaker 4: talking about how do we help people who are struggling,
Speaker 4: how do we recognize signs in those that are around us?
Speaker 4: Those are the important conversations that we should be having
Speaker 4: and having openly, right, having more more aggressively, more openly,
Speaker 4: more more attentively to say, hey, I've noticed you don't
Speaker 4: seem like yourself lately. How I'm worried about you? How
Speaker 4: are things? Tell me more about what's happening, what are
Speaker 4: you know, what's troubling you? And listening, like we said,
Speaker 4: non judgmentally and with care and concern for what someone's
Speaker 4: telling us, validating their feelings. That's the part of the
Speaker 4: conversation that I think is really important. And I guess
Speaker 4: the other thing I would add is that when we
Speaker 4: learn about a loss suicide, it is in fact helpful
Speaker 4: and important to families to know that people care about them, so,
Speaker 4: you know, dropping a card or a message to say
Speaker 4: I'm sorry for your loss. When we learn about a suicide,
Speaker 4: tell me the person's name, tell me what they were like,
Speaker 4: you know, really listening for you know what this person
Speaker 4: was like in life, not how they died.
Speaker 2: Sure, now here's a program you mentioned conversations. You have
Speaker 2: a program called Every Conversation Counts. You still look for
Speaker 2: volunteers to help staff the telephone lines. I think that
Speaker 2: last year, you folks Is it just in New England
Speaker 2: or in Boston handled more than one hundred thousand calls
Speaker 2: on the twenty four to seven crisis service line?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: OK, yeah, So how can people get involved here? And
Speaker 2: I had this for is there a special peer to
Speaker 2: peer program for young people? Yes?
Speaker 4: So every conversation counts as a campaign that we have
Speaker 4: launched to help us fundraise for all the programs that
Speaker 4: we do. But it's named Every Conversation Counts because that's
Speaker 4: exactly You're exactly right. Every conversation we have counts for
Speaker 4: lost survivors, for folks on the helpline for young people,
Speaker 4: every conversation, so we do need volunteers. We also have
Speaker 4: some paid positions, so we always encourage people to go
Speaker 4: to our website at Samaritanshope dot org to learn more
Speaker 4: about how they can volunteer. People can also volunteer and
Speaker 4: help us by attending our five K or you know,
Speaker 4: joining us at the breakfast for Hope, other ways that
Speaker 4: they can show their support and their care for the
Speaker 4: work that we do. The two things, as you were saying,
Speaker 4: the one hundred thousand calls that's for the Samaritans Boston
Speaker 4: location and by itself apart from all the other support
Speaker 4: and work being done across the state, across the region.
Speaker 4: We are part of the nine eight eight network, but
Speaker 4: we also handle all of the calls to the legacy line.
Speaker 4: So the line, the original line when you engage with
Speaker 4: the organization, is still in service. We still take calls
Speaker 4: to that line.
Speaker 2: We give that number one right now because people are listening.
Speaker 4: What is the number, right, So we really want to
Speaker 4: encourage people to reach nine eight eight, which is the
Speaker 4: easy right. That's the number for everybody to reach, no
Speaker 4: matter where you are in the country, no matter you
Speaker 4: know where you are at that moment. The other thing
Speaker 4: is for folks to reach hey Sam, which you were
Speaker 4: just that's the peer to peer line for young people
Speaker 4: and that's where we've got young people taking texts from
Speaker 4: other young people and we want them to text four
Speaker 4: three nine seven to six. That's nine. So that's for
Speaker 4: young people up to the age of twenty four to
Speaker 4: reach another young person. So all of that is the
Speaker 4: way that we, you know, again achieve these texts and
Speaker 4: calls that we take twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: And again if people would like and for young people,
Speaker 2: it's a great experience to realize how lucky everyone is
Speaker 2: who is not dealing with these issues. How do folks
Speaker 2: get in touch with you if they want to become
Speaker 2: a volunteer, want to contribute. What's what's the website?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the website is Samaritanshope dot org and that's where
Speaker 4: they can find all of that, the events, the programs,
Speaker 4: every there's information about how to volunteer, you know what
Speaker 4: we look for all of those things to learn about
Speaker 4: the campaign. You know, all of this is essential right
Speaker 4: for us to keep doing what we started doing fifty
Speaker 4: one years ago and continuing to serve people in the
Speaker 4: state and across the region. Really sounds great.
Speaker 2: Kathy Markie, thank you very much for what you do
Speaker 2: and besta luct to the Samaritans. And I met some
Speaker 2: wonderful people when I was young associated with that organization,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure the group has only grown more stronger
Speaker 2: every year. So thanks so much for what you say.
Speaker 4: Indeed, thanks and thanks thanks for bringing life to this Thanks.
Speaker 2: Dan, absolutely, Kathy, my pleasure. It's something I believe in
Speaker 2: the mazin. Thank you much. Kathy Marquis, the Samaritans President
Speaker 2: and CEO. The website Samaritans Hoope dot org. All sorts
Speaker 2: of information. When we get back, we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about the rescue of a bald eagle and its rehabilitation efforts,
Speaker 2: and I think it's about to be released back into
Speaker 2: its native habitat, which is the world. We'll be talking
Speaker 2: with Kim Aman. She's a veterinarian raptor specialist and founder
Speaker 2: of Wisconsin's Winged Freedom Raptor Hospital. Sounds exciting, Stay with us.
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Speaker 1: Side, Dan Ray, I'm WBZ Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Madison, delighted to welcome Kim Amon. Did I
Speaker 2: get that pronunciation fairly close?
Speaker 5: Kim It's ammen.
Speaker 2: Amen, okay, immen. That's fair enough. That double m is
Speaker 2: what threw me off there. Ammen. You're a veterinarian, a
Speaker 2: raptor specialist, and founder of Wisconsin's Winged Freedom Raptor Hospital.
Speaker 2: How long has there been a Wisconsin's Winged Freedom Raptor Hospital.
Speaker 5: We have formerly been an organization for four years, but
Speaker 5: I've been doing raptor work my whole career. I've been
Speaker 5: a veterinarian for twenty eight years.
Speaker 2: All right, So you have just or you're releasing in
Speaker 2: time for the Fourth of July celebration. An injured bald
Speaker 2: eagle American bald What were the circumstances that this bald
Speaker 2: eagle found him or herself involved in.
Speaker 5: So last September, this female adult bald eagle was found
Speaker 5: nearby any campground and she had a really severe wound
Speaker 5: on her leg that was life threatening. And when she
Speaker 5: came in, I realized that it was wide open. I
Speaker 5: had no way to close this wound, and I knew
Speaker 5: I was going to have a challenge trying to get
Speaker 5: it to heal. Wow, So that's how she came to us.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me start at the beginning. Any way, Do
Speaker 2: you have any idea how she suffered this horrific wound?
Speaker 5: We really can only speculate. My guess is this was
Speaker 5: a fighting injury. There were some deep grooves in it
Speaker 5: that were consistent with talent. So these birds have very
Speaker 5: large claws and they are very territory oriol during the
Speaker 5: breeding season and nesting, and this would have been towards
Speaker 5: the tail end of that. But my suspicion is she
Speaker 5: was fighting.
Speaker 2: So fighting with another bald eagle or another raptor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, probably with another bald eagle. Yeah.
Speaker 2: How many bald eagles exist approximately? I know that there's
Speaker 2: such a beautiful bird, and obviously there's all sorts of
Speaker 2: laws to protect them. I'm just curious. Are we talking
Speaker 2: about ten thousand or one hundred thousand?
Speaker 5: How rare I suspected six digits? You'd have to ask
Speaker 5: a wildlife biologist. That's not my area of That's.
Speaker 2: Fine, I know, I just didn't know if you might
Speaker 2: have known, because it's one of those questions when you
Speaker 2: say six digits you're talking somewhere over one hundred thousand,
Speaker 2: because that gets you to say, absolutely, Okay, do these birds?
Speaker 2: Do they tend to replicate themselves or is there a
Speaker 2: population going I just want to get just people thinking
Speaker 2: about these birds, and then I want to talk about
Speaker 2: obviously what you were able to do to bring this
Speaker 2: bird back to health. Are they.
Speaker 5: Birds? Yeah, they are maintaining their populations. They've come back
Speaker 5: when we had the DDT issues in the fifties and
Speaker 5: sixties and we just about exterminated.
Speaker 2: Them silent spring Rachel Carsonari.
Speaker 5: Right, exactly right, And they were discovered that.
Speaker 2: They were victimized by that, that's right.
Speaker 5: It was causing eggs ending shelfenning and their eggs were
Speaker 5: breaking before they could hatch.
Speaker 2: Okay, So in September, did someone just discover the bird
Speaker 2: with this gash in her leg which prevented her from
Speaker 2: flying or how was she found?
Speaker 5: Yes, she was found by some campers who saw her
Speaker 5: fly into the area and made an awkward landing and
Speaker 5: it appeared that she couldn't fly well and they didn't
Speaker 5: know what was wrong. We have a network of volunteers.
Speaker 5: One of our volunteers went to the site and was
Speaker 5: able to pick her up and brought her into the hospital.
Speaker 2: Now, how do you pick up a bald eagle, I
Speaker 2: assume very carefully.
Speaker 5: Yeah, lots of heavy gloves and usually a blanket to
Speaker 5: wrap over them and then scoop up, trying to get
Speaker 5: those feet under control.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you look as the attending veterinarian and you
Speaker 2: say this, gash. I assume that when not only they land,
Speaker 2: do they have their legs have to absorb the landing.
Speaker 2: But I assume when they take off they use their
Speaker 2: legs as a spring as any large bird. But I'm
Speaker 2: not a bird expert, but I assume a leg an
Speaker 2: injured leg is as as critical to a bald eagle
Speaker 2: as it is to a baseball player who hopes to
Speaker 2: steal second of third base.
Speaker 5: Certainly, yes, in her case, the reason it was life
Speaker 5: threatening was the infection that had set in. So this
Speaker 5: was not a fresh wound. It had been open for
Speaker 5: days and days, and now we had this huge, deep
Speaker 5: infection in the wound that this would have taken her life.
Speaker 2: Okay, so ANTIBEO. I'm not a veterinarian, No do I
Speaker 2: play them on the radio, but I'm assuming heavy doses
Speaker 2: of antibiotics to kill the infection initially. And then you
Speaker 2: said you weren't able to sow the wound as you would.
Speaker 5: There was no way to close this wound, which is
Speaker 5: what we would be wanting to do to keep infection out.
Speaker 5: So I started to look into some type of alternative therapies.
Speaker 5: Some people have tried with eagles or other birds of
Speaker 5: prey to take skin grafts from elsewhere on their bodies
Speaker 5: and move it like they would in a human. But
Speaker 5: there just was nothing this large that I could harvest anywhere.
Speaker 5: So I got online. I started researching other options, and
Speaker 5: that's where I ran across the Keras's company that makes
Speaker 5: the cod skin.
Speaker 2: Graft what are called skin grass.
Speaker 5: So cod, we're talking cod. This is the Icelandic cod,
Speaker 5: the fish that are naturally harvested out of the oceans
Speaker 5: in Iceland. This company is based in Iceland, and the
Speaker 5: skin from those fish that are harvested for human consumption,
Speaker 5: the skin is a byproduct. They throw it away, and
Speaker 5: so this company has developed a process where they take
Speaker 5: all of the DNA material and the cells out of
Speaker 5: the skin, but maintain the architecture of the skin and
Speaker 5: they are able to dehydrate it and make it into
Speaker 5: a sterile, shelf stable product that then can be rehydrated
Speaker 5: and used in a patient that has either like a
Speaker 5: human patient that's had a surgical wound, you know, created
Speaker 5: when they had something removed, or a burn, something where
Speaker 5: skin is missing. And so they I reached out to
Speaker 5: them and said, hey, this is what I'm doing. You know,
Speaker 5: this is a nonprofit, this is a bald eagle. Would
Speaker 5: you be able to help me, either with advice or
Speaker 5: you know, some product or whatever. And they just they
Speaker 5: were so supportive. They they rose away.
Speaker 2: They rose to the ocasion. Now how large was this
Speaker 2: was the piece of codfish skin that you used to
Speaker 2: graft over the wound and protect the wound.
Speaker 5: About six inches long and about four inches wide.
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, that is twenty four square inches. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at my hand right now. That's a that's a big
Speaker 2: piece of codfish skin, and so you you attached that
Speaker 2: how quickly September October? How long did it take you
Speaker 2: to you had the eagle in.
Speaker 5: It took about three weeks to get all of the
Speaker 5: infection and the dead things out till I had a
Speaker 5: nice clean wound bed. You can't apply a graft to
Speaker 5: something that's still infected or dying, So it was about
Speaker 5: three weeks into it. So she came in early September.
Speaker 5: It was about early October when I was able to
Speaker 5: apply the first graft And these grafts go on. They're
Speaker 5: sutured on with you know, stitching around the edges and
Speaker 5: then tack down, and the bird is bandaged and a
Speaker 5: little bit of a pressure bandage on it. And she
Speaker 5: was up and standing. She was using the legs. She
Speaker 5: would stand on her piece of fish and pull her meat.
Speaker 5: Just the most incredibly tolerant bird. And she had at
Speaker 5: least two surgeries to have these grafts put on because
Speaker 5: they eventually dissolve. They integrate into the wound as the
Speaker 5: skin is growing in, her own skin growing in, and
Speaker 5: then so we reapply it and reapply it. And I
Speaker 5: estimated that she had over fifty bandage changes throughout the
Speaker 5: ten months that it took us to get this to
Speaker 5: heel completely.
Speaker 2: Did she get to the point that she You think
Speaker 2: she understood intuitively the you were there to help her,
Speaker 2: and therefore you were less concerned about her snapping at
Speaker 2: you or clawing at you.
Speaker 5: She got to the point where she tolerated, I'll put
Speaker 5: that term. She was willing. I still had to restrain
Speaker 5: her when she would be laying on the exam table,
Speaker 5: but she allowed me to take her leg reposition it. However,
Speaker 5: I needed to do what I needed to do, bandaging
Speaker 5: or whatever. She was the most tolerant bird, and there
Speaker 5: was a rapport there, There was a trust. You know,
Speaker 5: if she'd had her choice, of course, she would have
Speaker 5: gotten up and you know, escaped off the table. But
Speaker 5: given the circumstances that were there, she was tolerant of it.
Speaker 5: She never took the bandages off, and she she We
Speaker 5: had her all through the you know, Wisconsin winter indoors,
Speaker 5: you know, to keep the bandage clean and things progressing along.
Speaker 5: And then towards spring we were able to get her
Speaker 5: out into some more of a fresh air open enclosure,
Speaker 5: and then she needed to recondition because she had no
Speaker 5: flight muscle. She had been you know, laying around all
Speaker 5: this time. So we got her reconditioned for release, and
Speaker 5: we actually released her on June twenty second, So she's
Speaker 5: she's been out there for a little over a week
Speaker 5: and she's just she flew off nice and strong and healthy,
Speaker 5: and we were just super happy.
Speaker 2: And any chance you think that she might drop by
Speaker 2: for a visit at some point, or at least a.
Speaker 5: Flyover, it's never happened yet. We do have eagles fly
Speaker 5: over all the time, but I certainly don't you know,
Speaker 5: know them apart. They don't send a postcard. They don't
Speaker 5: you know, dip a wing and say thanks a lot, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Doctor, thank you, thank you very much for what you do.
Speaker 2: If folks want to help your project, you must have
Speaker 2: a website. Maybe we'll have some generous listeners who would
Speaker 2: like to send something along. What is the website?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's Winged Freedom rh dot com.
Speaker 2: Where it stands for Raptor Hospital so wingedfreedomurag dot com.
Speaker 2: And of course people can go on and see some
Speaker 2: of the work you've done at the website and then
Speaker 2: reach for their checkbook.
Speaker 5: Thank you, talk to We have an active Facebook page,
Speaker 5: and we are one volunteer and one hundred percent donor funded,
Speaker 5: so we appreciate any support we get.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. I appreciate the work you
Speaker 2: do on behalf of all bald eagles everywhere. I'm not
Speaker 2: a bald eagle, but thank you very much for what
Speaker 2: you do. Okay and happy welcome.
Speaker 5: Thanks for the story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we get back, when we talk about your
Speaker 2: fourth of July weather forecast, ACUVE meteorologist Brian Thompson. Brian
Speaker 2: Thompson's been here before. Brian will join us and he's
Speaker 2: going to walk us through the week, right through the weekend.
Speaker 2: Coming back, stay with us here on Nightside, and at
Speaker 2: nine o'clock we're going to talk about a street fight
Speaker 2: in Newton. It is a classic street fight in Newton
Speaker 2: between citizens and city hall. You can fight city hall.
Speaker 2: We'll find out coming back after the nine o'clock news.
Speaker 2: But first your July fourth weekend weather forecast.
Speaker 1: Week weather forecast, you're on night Side with Dan Ray
Speaker 1: on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the fourth of July week. The fourth
Speaker 2: of July is on Friday. Many people have this as
Speaker 2: a holiday week. Some very lucky people like me have
Speaker 2: a holiday week next week, but either way, all of
Speaker 2: us will celebrate the Fourth of July this Friday. With
Speaker 2: us Now from AKI Weather Brian Thompson, one of my
Speaker 2: favorite AKI weather forecasters. Brian, let's take a walk through
Speaker 2: the next few days and tell us when it's gonna
Speaker 2: be good and when it's gonna be bad. We're through.
Speaker 2: We're through Monday, June thirtieth. We're heading into July. Lie,
Speaker 2: what's tomorrow likely be like across New England July? First?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Dan, it's going to be a pretty humid day tomorrow,
Speaker 6: and we're gonna be out ahead of an approaching cold
Speaker 6: fronts and a lot of times when there's a cold
Speaker 6: front approaching out ahead of it, it gets pretty warm and humid,
Speaker 6: and that'll be the case for tomorrow. We'll see temperatures
Speaker 6: get into the mid and upper eighties, and as that
Speaker 6: front gets closer, we will have to watch for some
Speaker 6: showers and even some thunderstorms to come through, especially during
Speaker 6: the afternoon and into the evening hours. There is a
Speaker 6: fair amount of moisture in the atmosphere, so some of
Speaker 6: these storms all have the potential to produce some downpours,
Speaker 6: So there could be some ponding on roads as we
Speaker 6: head through tomorrow into tomorrow evening with any of these
Speaker 6: downpours as well, But that.
Speaker 2: Just can happen anywhere north of Boston. I just am
Speaker 2: trying to help folk figure this one, this one out.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's tough because the weather can
Speaker 2: be so different from north of Boston to the Cape
Speaker 2: or the mountains of New Hampshire. Where's the big problem
Speaker 2: going to be?
Speaker 6: Well, the big problem will probably be more toward well,
Speaker 6: let's say a cross southern New England, really all across
Speaker 6: New England, but as you get closer to the coast,
Speaker 6: especially toward the Cape and islands, it may not be
Speaker 6: as much of an issue during the day Tomorrow, may
Speaker 6: take until almost tomorrow evening for those storms to reach.
Speaker 6: But with a front like this, it's going to span
Speaker 6: basically all of New England. There will be some showers
Speaker 6: of storms around really throughout the day tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it gets us to Wednesday, does it those
Speaker 2: storms clear everything out as they sometimes do, so we
Speaker 2: get a beautiful Wednesday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it should be for the most part. If there
Speaker 6: is any shower activity left over Wednesday, it's probably toward
Speaker 6: the Cape or the we'll be closer to the front
Speaker 6: that may take a little while to get through, but
Speaker 6: for most of New England it will be clearing out.
Speaker 6: High pressure is going to come in from the north
Speaker 6: and west, and it looks like for the most part
Speaker 6: it will be a mostly dry day on Thursday as well.
Speaker 6: That we are going to have to watch for perhaps
Speaker 6: a heavier thunderstorm Thursday afternoon, and that'll be coming down
Speaker 6: from the northwest kind of with a secondary push of
Speaker 6: some more comfortable air so heading into the fourth of July.
Speaker 6: So again with that next front lay or Thursday, there
Speaker 6: could be a heavy, gusty thunderstorm at a few spots.
Speaker 2: Okay, So now we get to the day itself, Yes,
Speaker 2: the fourth on Friday, generally, I'm here and it's going
Speaker 2: to be a pretty good day. Might be the best
Speaker 2: of the week.
Speaker 6: It certainly looks like that right now. It looks like
Speaker 6: it will be the nicest weather day of the week.
Speaker 6: We're expecting a fair amount of sunshine. High pressure is
Speaker 6: going to build in behind that secondary front on Thursday
Speaker 6: and that's going to allow things to not only clear out,
Speaker 6: so we'll see a decent amount of sunshine, it'll stay dry,
Speaker 6: but the humidity comes down pretty nicely as well. We're
Speaker 6: looking at two point temperatures in the fifties, which is
Speaker 6: which is a very comfortable level, certainly for this time
Speaker 6: of year. In the early part of July, so looks
Speaker 6: really good temperatures will be in the mid eighties. So
Speaker 6: if you want to get in the pool, it's gonna
Speaker 6: be warm enough for that. But if you're doing other
Speaker 6: outdoor activities, it's not going to be like it was
Speaker 6: last week when you as soon as you step outside
Speaker 6: you're covered in sweat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, we remember that. Well, okay, so let's
Speaker 2: just just talk long term. After the fourth, we get
Speaker 2: to Sunday, the fifth, and then there's a week next week.
Speaker 2: What's the long term forecast looking like for next week?
Speaker 6: Well, after we get past the fourth, it is going
Speaker 6: to gradually turn hotter over the weekend. By the time
Speaker 6: we get to Sunday, especially, it is going to be
Speaker 6: pretty hot, pretty humid again. I think we'll be back
Speaker 6: up near ninety degrees. The thunderstorm risk may go up
Speaker 6: a little bit by Sunday, but overall, I think most
Speaker 6: of the holiday weekend is going to be dry. The
Speaker 6: way it looks right now, and as we get into
Speaker 6: next week, we'll likely overall see a fairly humid stretch
Speaker 6: of weather that's going to take us through the at
Speaker 6: least the first half of the week. Again, at least
Speaker 6: through the first half of the week, it looks pretty hot.
Speaker 6: Temperature is probably up near ninety degrees. Maybe temperatures come
Speaker 6: down a bit so the middle part of next week,
Speaker 6: but the humidity is probably gonna be with us through
Speaker 6: a good chunk of next week, which is not terribly
Speaker 6: un common this time of year.
Speaker 2: Last question, Okay, and I'm going to exercise the talk
Speaker 2: show host prerogative here on Tuesday, I'm going to we
Speaker 2: have some tickets for called a farm to table dinner.
Speaker 2: It's outdoors. A year ago it got rained out on
Speaker 2: the cape. What are the chances that it won't get
Speaker 2: rained out this year? If you get my drift Tuesday
Speaker 2: Tuesday evening.
Speaker 6: It looks promising at this point. I don't think it's
Speaker 6: one of the better rain chances next week, I'll put
Speaker 6: it that way. A lot can change the late thie.
Speaker 2: It's only New England. I utanded I do, but I'll
Speaker 2: tell you if it works out as well as you said,
Speaker 2: I'll give you a little toast with a glass of wine. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, sounds good. That's great. I do appreciate it
Speaker 2: so much, Brian. Thank you very very much for joining
Speaker 2: us tonight, that is for sure. And we'll talk soon,
Speaker 2: maybe a couple of weeks. Thank you, Budy, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Fourth of July to you as well, you too. All
Speaker 2: we had done for this hour, we're moving on to
Speaker 2: the nine o'clock news, and after the nine o'clock news,
Speaker 2: we are going to talk about a street fight Newton.
Speaker 2: This is a big street fight Newton and Will. It's
Speaker 2: really interesting. Stay with us. There's there's no violence here,
Speaker 2: but a lot of anger and a lot of frustrations.