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<v Speaker 1>It's NIC's Eyes with Dan Ray. I'm going you Mazy

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Madison, get the duck boats ready. Let me tell you

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<v Speaker 2>it's on again, off again anyway, and they have Crochet

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<v Speaker 2>pitching tonight, so I think we can put that one

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<v Speaker 2>in the win column. My name is Dan Ray, host

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<v Speaker 2>of Nights Side. I'm heard every Monday through Friday night

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<v Speaker 2>except for this weekend. Next I'll give you prior advance

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<v Speaker 2>notice that I will be here along with Rob Brooks tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow night and Wednesday night. I think Rob will be

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<v Speaker 2>here Thursday and Friday night. We'll be here with Morgan White.

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<v Speaker 2>And next week you will have some Bradley Jay and

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<v Speaker 2>some Morgan White. So I will be off next week

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and I will return to join you again

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of my vacation on July fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will look forward to my vacation and I

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<v Speaker 2>will look forward to coming back and being back with

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<v Speaker 2>my friends eight side friends every Monday through Friday night

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<v Speaker 2>from eight until midnight. I will guarantee you that I

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<v Speaker 2>will take you almost through the month of June. Will

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<v Speaker 2>be about two minutes short when we finish the show

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<v Speaker 2>at eleven fifty eight tonight. It will be a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of minutes away from July, the halfway point of the year. Goodness, gracious,

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<v Speaker 2>where's the year gone? We have some four We have

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<v Speaker 2>four very interesting guests, timely topical and most importantly interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to start off with Julie Heckman. Julie is

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<v Speaker 2>the executive director of the American Pyrotechnics Association. Julie Heckman,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to night Side. This is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>busy week for you, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, but thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we want to get the word out everybody loves

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<v Speaker 2>to watch fireworks, particularly when they are handled by the professionals.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a great fireworks display here in Boston, both

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<v Speaker 2>generally out over Boston Harbor and then the one over

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<v Speaker 2>the Esplanade concert the Boston Pops concert, which has become

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<v Speaker 2>such a great tradition here in Boston. I'm sure you're

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with that concert, correct.

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<v Speaker 3>I had attended the Boston Fireworks show, and I will

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<v Speaker 3>say it is the most patriotic experience in all of America.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and all the credit goes to the Boston Pops,

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<v Speaker 2>but also to a great gentleman who's no longer with us.

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<v Speaker 2>David Mugar who owned Channel seven here in Boston, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the NBA what was the NBC affiliates now a

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<v Speaker 2>Fox affiliate. But he threw his heart and soul into

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<v Speaker 2>that concert. However, all the fireworks were handled by professionals.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not what goes on in America. There are

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<v Speaker 2>people who tonight are sitting at home who will find

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<v Speaker 2>themselves to the misuse of fireworks injured sometime in the

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<v Speaker 2>next few days. Tell us what people can do to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid getting injured, other than just don't play with fireworks,

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<v Speaker 2>which is obviously the most important caveat that we can

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<v Speaker 2>that we can offer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, you need to obey your local law.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know you're in Boston. Massachusetts is the only

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<v Speaker 3>state that still has a complete prohibition on all backyard

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<v Speaker 3>consumer fireworks. So for your listeners, I encourage you to

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<v Speaker 3>obey that local law. For those who travel out of

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<v Speaker 3>state and want to use fireworks, purchase your fireworks from

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<v Speaker 3>a reputable dealer. Make certain that the packaging is brightly colored,

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<v Speaker 3>contains instructions for use and precautionary warnings.

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<v Speaker 2>Why brought why brightly colored? That strikes me as does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean that they're new and fresh. They haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there for years.

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<v Speaker 3>No, the professional product that the pros use do not

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<v Speaker 3>have colorful wrapping on them. They are pretty much brown

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<v Speaker 3>paper wrapped and cautionary warnings on them or instructions for use.

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<v Speaker 3>Because professionals know how to use those products. Consumer product

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<v Speaker 3>is required to be in colorful wrapping.

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<v Speaker 2>Good and thank you for Thank you for that clarification.

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<v Speaker 2>What else that should we be concerned about? Obviously I

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<v Speaker 2>interrupted you, but I had to go right ahead. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 3>That's quite all right. You need to have a sober,

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<v Speaker 3>responsible adult in charge of all firework activities. Alcohol and

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<v Speaker 3>fireworks do not mix. That creates a disaster. You should

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<v Speaker 3>never let young children handle fireworks. Even sparklers can be

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous if they're misused. They burn it roughly eighteen hundred

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<v Speaker 3>degrees fahrenheit, and the wire stays hot long after the

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<v Speaker 3>sparkler's finished emitting its shower of sparks. So we recommend

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<v Speaker 3>have a bucket of water handy and toss those hot

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<v Speaker 3>sparkler wires in the bucket and let them soak during.

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<v Speaker 2>The course of an average fourth of July. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>put it in some historical perspective. How many folks across

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<v Speaker 2>America do suffer a bad fireworks experience? Are we talking

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<v Speaker 2>about dozens, hundreds or what's the number?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Last year's data indicated there were about fourteen thousand individuals

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<v Speaker 3>who were injured and treated for firework related injuries. Most

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<v Speaker 3>of them were burned to the hands and fingers that

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<v Speaker 3>they were also caused by product misuse, people holding devices

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<v Speaker 3>that are intended not to be held, but to be

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<v Speaker 3>discharged on the ground from a hard, flat level surface.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is something that most people, in particular, I

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<v Speaker 2>assume that the profile of the people who make mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>here are people who are using fireworks and perhaps have

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<v Speaker 2>had a drink or two. But I'll bet you it's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of young guys. Or am I missing missing

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<v Speaker 2>my guess?

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<v Speaker 3>I know you were right on the mark. And actually,

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<v Speaker 3>our foundation, the American Pyrotechnic Safety and Education Foundation, produced

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<v Speaker 3>a new series of videos trying to target that audience

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<v Speaker 3>between twenty and thirty five where we see a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of just ridiculous and careless mistakes and we have a

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<v Speaker 3>series of videos called Explosive Mistakes. Don't be that guy,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's on our website at Celebratesafel dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is a video message that people can can

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<v Speaker 2>look at and maybe it will make them think a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about what sort of activities they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get involved in. About the I'm going to use the

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<v Speaker 2>word clown. What about the clown at the at the

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<v Speaker 2>party who maybe says had a couple of drinks and

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<v Speaker 2>he decides it's a great idea to maybe light a

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<v Speaker 2>firework and flip it towards some people just to scare them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how do you deal with that person because

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<v Speaker 2>that person can do a lot of damage to innocent bystanders. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And you know, if I was at a party

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<v Speaker 3>and saw somebody with that type of behavior, I would

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<v Speaker 3>either tell them you're not going to be igniting any

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<v Speaker 3>fireworks or I would tell my family and friends to lease.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sometimes it takes it takes a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>courage to do with a stand up to the to

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<v Speaker 2>the to the person who's misbehaving, or if necessary, just

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<v Speaker 2>just it's just absent yourself from a dangerous situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Well you have to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's really important that people understand fire works are

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<v Speaker 3>safe when they're used properly. But if you don't follow

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<v Speaker 5>For you, it can create a very serious situation.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So let's give that website one more time

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<v Speaker 2>where people can get more information and look at these videos.

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<v Speaker 2>Go right ahead, Julie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the website Celebrate Safely dot org RG and we

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of safety tips and we have great

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<v Speaker 3>videos that show you how to properly use pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>every type of legal consumer firework there is on the market.

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<v Speaker 2>Celebrate Safely dot org your lips to God's ears. I

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<v Speaker 2>got to tell you, let's hope that everybody celebrates safely

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<v Speaker 2>and that this year, I'm sure I'm being a little

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<v Speaker 2>overly optimistic that no one in America is injured by

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<v Speaker 2>any sort of firework at any caliber. Julie, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your time tonight, very important message, and hopefully my listeners

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<v Speaker 2>will have been paying attention and will follow through and

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<v Speaker 2>that they just enjoy a good time and watch the

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<v Speaker 2>fireworks that are presented to us by the professionals. They're

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<v Speaker 2>always going to be better than backyard fireworks, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I appreciate your interest, and I wish you would say.

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<v Speaker 4>Fourth of July.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much, Julie, Heckman, the executive director of the

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<v Speaker 2>American Pirate Technics Association. Thanks, Julie, appreciate it, same to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we get back. We're going to talk about a

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<v Speaker 2>different type of tragedy, and that is suicide and what

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<v Speaker 2>do we do about it. Suicide prevention in Massachusetts. The

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<v Speaker 2>samaran is a great organization. They answered one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>calls last year on its twenty four to seven crisis helpline.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're going to be talking with the Samaritans President

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<v Speaker 2>and CEO, Kathy Marchie or Markie. I'm not exactly sure

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get that pronunciation correctly. I used to sit on

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<v Speaker 2>the board of the Samaritans way back in the day

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<v Speaker 2>as a young lawyer and met a lot of great

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<v Speaker 2>people who were involved in that organization trying to help

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<v Speaker 2>those who at some point, and I guess all of

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<v Speaker 2>us at some point have felt really down, whether we've

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<v Speaker 2>attempted or thought about suicide. It's no shame, but there

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be people there to help. In the Samaritans

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<v Speaker 2>are those people. We'll talk about it right after this

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<v Speaker 2>break on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan Ray on.

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<v Speaker 2>Boston's news Radio now fourth of July is a great

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<v Speaker 2>time of year, really, the beginning of summer or beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of vacation, so much to look forward to. And yet

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<v Speaker 2>at any time during the year, some of our fellow

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<v Speaker 2>neighbors and our fellow citizens, fellow Americans get depressed, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of them contemplate suicide, and some of them actually try,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of them actually succeed. And if there's one

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<v Speaker 2>organization that has spent decades trying to prevent suicides from occurring,

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<v Speaker 2>it is the Samaritans. With us now is the president

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<v Speaker 2>and the EO of the Samaritans here in Massachusetts, Kathy Marky. Kathy,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome tonight's side, and I mean that from the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of my heart.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Dan, thank you so much. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>A long time ago. You were probably not, but back

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<v Speaker 2>in the late seventies through the eighties, I was on

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<v Speaker 2>the board of directors of the Massachusetts Samaritans, and I

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<v Speaker 2>knew Monica Dickens, who was the founder of the organization,

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<v Speaker 2>the granddaughter of Charles Dickens. Fill us in, how did

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<v Speaker 2>how did the Samaritans come to be?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's yeah, it's great that you can go back

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<v Speaker 4>to those early days which are so so wonderful well.

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<v Speaker 4>Monica learned about the art or the skill of befriending,

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<v Speaker 4>which is really what most of us want to do

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<v Speaker 4>right when we're connecting with someone that we care about,

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<v Speaker 4>someone that we know. We want to be a good friend.

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<v Speaker 4>We want to connect, we want to listen, not judgementally,

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<v Speaker 4>we want to care about what they're telling us, validate it,

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<v Speaker 4>and so on. Monica learned about this in the UK,

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<v Speaker 4>and she brought it to the United States, forming the

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<v Speaker 4>first Samaritans in the United States in Boston, which is

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<v Speaker 4>our organization, and she is credited with bringing other Samaritans

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<v Speaker 4>to the United States, which are opened over time and

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<v Speaker 4>she also is credited with getting the barriers erected on

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<v Speaker 4>the Sagamore and Born bridges to help prevent suicides from

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<v Speaker 4>the bridges.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Thanks, someone goes over the Sagamore or the board,

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<v Speaker 2>they should look at the fencing. It curves inward makes

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<v Speaker 2>it much more difficult for someone to climb up and

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<v Speaker 2>literally jump off the bridges where people have yes and

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<v Speaker 2>using that venue for the purposes of ending their lives. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that many people don't understand that. I understood

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<v Speaker 2>it very well as a TV report order with WBZ

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<v Speaker 2>for many years, is that if there is a murder suicide,

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<v Speaker 2>are not covered by local news. I have mixed feelings

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<v Speaker 4>those individuals in that time. I think talking about suicide,

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<v Speaker 4>and having openly, right, having more more aggressively, more openly,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, dropping a card or a message to say

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, now here's a program you mentioned conversations. You have

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<v Speaker 2>a program called Every Conversation Counts. You still look for

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<v Speaker 2>last year, you folks Is it just in New England

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<v Speaker 2>or in Boston handled more than one hundred thousand calls

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<v Speaker 2>on the twenty four to seven crisis service line?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>OK, yeah, So how can people get involved here? And

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<v Speaker 4>So every conversation counts as a campaign that we have

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<v Speaker 4>launched to help us fundraise for all the programs that

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<v Speaker 4>we do. But it's named Every Conversation Counts because that's

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<v Speaker 4>exactly You're exactly right. Every conversation we have counts for

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<v Speaker 4>lost survivors, for folks on the helpline for young people,

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<v Speaker 4>every conversation, so we do need volunteers. We also have

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<v Speaker 4>to our website at Samaritanshope dot org to learn more

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<v Speaker 4>about how they can volunteer. People can also volunteer and

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<v Speaker 4>joining us at the breakfast for Hope, other ways that

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<v Speaker 4>work that we do. The two things, as you were saying,

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<v Speaker 4>the one hundred thousand calls that's for the Samaritans Boston

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<v Speaker 4>We are part of the nine eight eight network, but

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<v Speaker 4>we also handle all of the calls to the legacy line.

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<v Speaker 4>So the line, the original line when you engage with

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<v Speaker 2>We give that number one right now because people are listening.

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<v Speaker 4>What is the number, right, So we really want to

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<v Speaker 4>encourage people to reach nine eight eight, which is the

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<v Speaker 4>easy right. That's the number for everybody to reach, no

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<v Speaker 4>matter where you are in the country, no matter you

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<v Speaker 4>know where you are at that moment. The other thing

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<v Speaker 4>is for folks to reach hey Sam, which you were

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<v Speaker 4>just that's the peer to peer line for young people

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<v Speaker 4>and that's where we've got young people taking texts from

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<v Speaker 4>other young people and we want them to text four

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<v Speaker 4>three nine seven to six. That's nine. So that's for

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<v Speaker 4>young people up to the age of twenty four to

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<v Speaker 4>reach another young person. So all of that is the

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<v Speaker 4>way that we, you know, again achieve these texts and

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<v Speaker 2>And again if people would like and for young people,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a great experience to realize how lucky everyone is

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<v Speaker 2>who is not dealing with these issues. How do folks

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<v Speaker 2>get in touch with you if they want to become

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<v Speaker 2>a volunteer, want to contribute. What's what's the website?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the website is Samaritanshope dot org and that's where

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<v Speaker 4>they can find all of that, the events, the programs,

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<v Speaker 4>every there's information about how to volunteer, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>we look for all of those things to learn about

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<v Speaker 4>the campaign. You know, all of this is essential right

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<v Speaker 4>for us to keep doing what we started doing fifty

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<v Speaker 2>Kathy Markie, thank you very much for what you do

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<v Speaker 2>and besta luct to the Samaritans. And I met some

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful people when I was young associated with that organization,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure the group has only grown more stronger

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<v Speaker 2>every year. So thanks so much for what you say.

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed, thanks and thanks thanks for bringing life to this Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, absolutely, Kathy, my pleasure. It's something I believe in

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<v Speaker 2>the mazin. Thank you much. Kathy Marquis, the Samaritans President

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<v Speaker 2>and CEO. The website Samaritans Hoope dot org. All sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of information. When we get back, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the rescue of a bald eagle and its rehabilitation efforts,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's about to be released back into

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<v Speaker 2>with Kim Aman. She's a veterinarian raptor specialist and founder

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<v Speaker 2>of Wisconsin's Winged Freedom Raptor Hospital. Sounds exciting, Stay with us.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Dan Ray. This is night Side. If

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<v Speaker 1>Side, Dan Ray, I'm WBZ Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Madison, delighted to welcome Kim Amon. Did I

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<v Speaker 2>get that pronunciation fairly close?

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<v Speaker 5>Kim It's ammen.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen, okay, immen. That's fair enough. That double m is

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<v Speaker 2>what threw me off there. Ammen. You're a veterinarian, a

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<v Speaker 2>raptor specialist, and founder of Wisconsin's Winged Freedom Raptor Hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>How long has there been a Wisconsin's Winged Freedom Raptor Hospital.

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<v Speaker 5>We have formerly been an organization for four years, but

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So you have just or you're releasing in

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<v Speaker 2>time for the Fourth of July celebration. An injured bald

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<v Speaker 5>So last September, this female adult bald eagle was found

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<v Speaker 2>So fighting with another bald eagle or another raptor.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, probably with another bald eagle. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>How many bald eagles exist approximately? I know that there's

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<v Speaker 2>such a beautiful bird, and obviously there's all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, I know, I just didn't know if you might

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<v Speaker 2>obviously what you were able to do to bring this

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<v Speaker 5>Right, exactly right, And they were discovered that.

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<v Speaker 2>They were victimized by that, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So in September, did someone just discover the bird

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<v Speaker 2>Now, how do you pick up a bald eagle, I

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, lots of heavy gloves and usually a blanket to

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you look as the attending veterinarian and you

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<v Speaker 5>Certainly, yes, in her case, the reason it was life

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<v Speaker 5>threatening was the infection that had set in. So this

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<v Speaker 5>was not a fresh wound. It had been open for

423
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<v Speaker 5>days and days, and now we had this huge, deep

424
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<v Speaker 5>infection in the wound that this would have taken her life.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so ANTIBEO. I'm not a veterinarian, No do I

426
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<v Speaker 2>play them on the radio, but I'm assuming heavy doses

427
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<v Speaker 2>of antibiotics to kill the infection initially. And then you

428
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<v Speaker 2>said you weren't able to sow the wound as you would.

429
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<v Speaker 5>There was no way to close this wound, which is

430
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<v Speaker 5>what we would be wanting to do to keep infection out.

431
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<v Speaker 5>So I started to look into some type of alternative therapies.

432
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<v Speaker 5>Some people have tried with eagles or other birds of

433
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<v Speaker 5>prey to take skin grafts from elsewhere on their bodies

434
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<v Speaker 5>and move it like they would in a human. But

435
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<v Speaker 5>there just was nothing this large that I could harvest anywhere.

436
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<v Speaker 5>So I got online. I started researching other options, and

437
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<v Speaker 5>that's where I ran across the Keras's company that makes

438
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<v Speaker 5>the cod skin.

439
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<v Speaker 2>Graft what are called skin grass.

440
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<v Speaker 5>So cod, we're talking cod. This is the Icelandic cod,

441
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<v Speaker 5>the fish that are naturally harvested out of the oceans

442
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<v Speaker 5>in Iceland. This company is based in Iceland, and the

443
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<v Speaker 5>skin from those fish that are harvested for human consumption,

444
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<v Speaker 5>the skin is a byproduct. They throw it away, and

445
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<v Speaker 5>so this company has developed a process where they take

446
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 5>all of the DNA material and the cells out of

447
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:36.839
<v Speaker 5>the skin, but maintain the architecture of the skin and

448
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.839
<v Speaker 5>they are able to dehydrate it and make it into

449
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<v Speaker 5>a sterile, shelf stable product that then can be rehydrated

450
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<v Speaker 5>and used in a patient that has either like a

451
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<v Speaker 5>human patient that's had a surgical wound, you know, created

452
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 5>when they had something removed, or a burn, something where

453
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:58.920
<v Speaker 5>skin is missing. And so they I reached out to

454
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<v Speaker 5>them and said, hey, this is what I'm doing. You know,

455
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<v Speaker 5>this is a nonprofit, this is a bald eagle. Would

456
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<v Speaker 5>you be able to help me, either with advice or

457
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:12.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, some product or whatever. And they just they

458
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:14.920
<v Speaker 5>were so supportive. They they rose away.

459
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<v Speaker 2>They rose to the ocasion. Now how large was this

460
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<v Speaker 2>was the piece of codfish skin that you used to

461
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<v Speaker 2>graft over the wound and protect the wound.

462
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<v Speaker 5>About six inches long and about four inches wide.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Wow, wow, that is twenty four square inches. I'm looking

464
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<v Speaker 2>at my hand right now. That's a that's a big

465
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:42.359
<v Speaker 2>piece of codfish skin, and so you you attached that

466
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<v Speaker 2>how quickly September October? How long did it take you

467
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<v Speaker 2>to you had the eagle in.

468
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<v Speaker 5>It took about three weeks to get all of the

469
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<v Speaker 5>infection and the dead things out till I had a

470
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:58.079
<v Speaker 5>nice clean wound bed. You can't apply a graft to

471
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<v Speaker 5>something that's still infected or dying, So it was about

472
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<v Speaker 5>three weeks into it. So she came in early September.

473
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<v Speaker 5>It was about early October when I was able to

474
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<v Speaker 5>apply the first graft And these grafts go on. They're

475
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<v Speaker 5>sutured on with you know, stitching around the edges and

476
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:19.440
<v Speaker 5>then tack down, and the bird is bandaged and a

477
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 5>little bit of a pressure bandage on it. And she

478
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 5>was up and standing. She was using the legs. She

479
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.119
<v Speaker 5>would stand on her piece of fish and pull her meat.

480
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<v Speaker 5>Just the most incredibly tolerant bird. And she had at

481
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:38.279
<v Speaker 5>least two surgeries to have these grafts put on because

482
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 5>they eventually dissolve. They integrate into the wound as the

483
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.519
<v Speaker 5>skin is growing in, her own skin growing in, and

484
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.559
<v Speaker 5>then so we reapply it and reapply it. And I

485
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 5>estimated that she had over fifty bandage changes throughout the

486
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<v Speaker 5>ten months that it took us to get this to

487
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<v Speaker 5>heel completely.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Did she get to the point that she You think

489
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<v Speaker 2>she understood intuitively the you were there to help her,

490
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<v Speaker 2>and therefore you were less concerned about her snapping at

491
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<v Speaker 2>you or clawing at you.

492
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<v Speaker 5>She got to the point where she tolerated, I'll put

493
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<v Speaker 5>that term. She was willing. I still had to restrain

494
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<v Speaker 5>her when she would be laying on the exam table,

495
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<v Speaker 5>but she allowed me to take her leg reposition it. However,

496
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 5>I needed to do what I needed to do, bandaging

497
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<v Speaker 5>or whatever. She was the most tolerant bird, and there

498
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<v Speaker 5>was a rapport there, There was a trust. You know,

499
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<v Speaker 5>if she'd had her choice, of course, she would have

500
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<v Speaker 5>gotten up and you know, escaped off the table. But

501
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<v Speaker 5>given the circumstances that were there, she was tolerant of it.

502
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<v Speaker 5>She never took the bandages off, and she she We

503
00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 5>had her all through the you know, Wisconsin winter indoors,

504
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 5>you know, to keep the bandage clean and things progressing along.

505
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.400
<v Speaker 5>And then towards spring we were able to get her

506
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<v Speaker 5>out into some more of a fresh air open enclosure,

507
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.759
<v Speaker 5>and then she needed to recondition because she had no

508
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 5>flight muscle. She had been you know, laying around all

509
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:09.640
<v Speaker 5>this time. So we got her reconditioned for release, and

510
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 5>we actually released her on June twenty second, So she's

511
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<v Speaker 5>she's been out there for a little over a week

512
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:19.640
<v Speaker 5>and she's just she flew off nice and strong and healthy,

513
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.279
<v Speaker 5>and we were just super happy.

514
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<v Speaker 2>And any chance you think that she might drop by

515
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<v Speaker 2>for a visit at some point, or at least a.

516
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 5>Flyover, it's never happened yet. We do have eagles fly

517
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 5>over all the time, but I certainly don't you know,

518
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:35.880
<v Speaker 5>know them apart. They don't send a postcard. They don't

519
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, dip a wing and say thanks a lot, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor, thank you, thank you very much for what you do.

521
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>If folks want to help your project, you must have

522
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<v Speaker 2>a website. Maybe we'll have some generous listeners who would

523
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 2>like to send something along. What is the website?

524
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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, it's Winged Freedom rh dot com.

525
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Where it stands for Raptor Hospital so wingedfreedomurag dot com.

526
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.640
<v Speaker 2>And of course people can go on and see some

527
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 2>of the work you've done at the website and then

528
00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>reach for their checkbook.

529
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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, talk to We have an active Facebook page,

530
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.720
<v Speaker 5>and we are one volunteer and one hundred percent donor funded,

531
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:22.559
<v Speaker 5>so we appreciate any support we get.

532
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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much. I appreciate the work you

533
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>do on behalf of all bald eagles everywhere. I'm not

534
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<v Speaker 2>a bald eagle, but thank you very much for what

535
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<v Speaker 2>you do. Okay and happy welcome.

536
00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:35.440
<v Speaker 5>Thanks for the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when we get back, when we talk about your

538
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<v Speaker 2>fourth of July weather forecast, ACUVE meteorologist Brian Thompson. Brian

539
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<v Speaker 2>Thompson's been here before. Brian will join us and he's

540
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<v Speaker 2>going to walk us through the week, right through the weekend.

541
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<v Speaker 2>Coming back, stay with us here on Nightside, and at

542
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<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock we're going to talk about a street fight

543
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 2>in Newton. It is a classic street fight in Newton

544
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:08.480
<v Speaker 2>between citizens and city hall. You can fight city hall.

545
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<v Speaker 2>We'll find out coming back after the nine o'clock news.

546
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<v Speaker 2>But first your July fourth weekend weather forecast.

547
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<v Speaker 1>Week weather forecast, you're on night Side with Dan Ray

548
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<v Speaker 1>on WBZ Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the fourth of July week. The fourth

550
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<v Speaker 2>of July is on Friday. Many people have this as

551
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<v Speaker 2>a holiday week. Some very lucky people like me have

552
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>a holiday week next week, but either way, all of

553
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 2>us will celebrate the Fourth of July this Friday. With

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<v Speaker 2>us Now from AKI Weather Brian Thompson, one of my

555
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:51.599
<v Speaker 2>favorite AKI weather forecasters. Brian, let's take a walk through

556
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<v Speaker 2>the next few days and tell us when it's gonna

557
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>be good and when it's gonna be bad. We're through.

558
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<v Speaker 2>We're through Monday, June thirtieth. We're heading into July. Lie,

559
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<v Speaker 2>what's tomorrow likely be like across New England July? First?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Dan, it's going to be a pretty humid day tomorrow,

561
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.679
<v Speaker 6>and we're gonna be out ahead of an approaching cold

562
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:12.599
<v Speaker 6>fronts and a lot of times when there's a cold

563
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 6>front approaching out ahead of it, it gets pretty warm and humid,

564
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 6>and that'll be the case for tomorrow. We'll see temperatures

565
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 6>get into the mid and upper eighties, and as that

566
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:22.760
<v Speaker 6>front gets closer, we will have to watch for some

567
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 6>showers and even some thunderstorms to come through, especially during

568
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.760
<v Speaker 6>the afternoon and into the evening hours. There is a

569
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<v Speaker 6>fair amount of moisture in the atmosphere, so some of

570
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:33.480
<v Speaker 6>these storms all have the potential to produce some downpours,

571
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<v Speaker 6>So there could be some ponding on roads as we

572
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.920
<v Speaker 6>head through tomorrow into tomorrow evening with any of these

573
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:40.840
<v Speaker 6>downpours as well, But that.

574
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<v Speaker 2>Just can happen anywhere north of Boston. I just am

575
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<v Speaker 2>trying to help folk figure this one, this one out.

576
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know it's tough because the weather can

577
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 2>be so different from north of Boston to the Cape

578
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 2>or the mountains of New Hampshire. Where's the big problem

579
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<v Speaker 2>going to be?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the big problem will probably be more toward well,

581
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 6>let's say a cross southern New England, really all across

582
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<v Speaker 6>New England, but as you get closer to the coast,

583
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<v Speaker 6>especially toward the Cape and islands, it may not be

584
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<v Speaker 6>as much of an issue during the day Tomorrow, may

585
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 6>take until almost tomorrow evening for those storms to reach.

586
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<v Speaker 6>But with a front like this, it's going to span

587
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 6>basically all of New England. There will be some showers

588
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 6>of storms around really throughout the day tomorrow.

589
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it gets us to Wednesday, does it those

590
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 2>storms clear everything out as they sometimes do, so we

591
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:26.360
<v Speaker 2>get a beautiful Wednesday.

592
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it should be for the most part. If there

593
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<v Speaker 6>is any shower activity left over Wednesday, it's probably toward

594
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<v Speaker 6>the Cape or the we'll be closer to the front

595
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 6>that may take a little while to get through, but

596
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 6>for most of New England it will be clearing out.

597
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.039
<v Speaker 6>High pressure is going to come in from the north

598
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 6>and west, and it looks like for the most part

599
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:45.800
<v Speaker 6>it will be a mostly dry day on Thursday as well.

600
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<v Speaker 6>That we are going to have to watch for perhaps

601
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<v Speaker 6>a heavier thunderstorm Thursday afternoon, and that'll be coming down

602
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 6>from the northwest kind of with a secondary push of

603
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<v Speaker 6>some more comfortable air so heading into the fourth of July.

604
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<v Speaker 6>So again with that next front lay or Thursday, there

605
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<v Speaker 6>could be a heavy, gusty thunderstorm at a few spots.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So now we get to the day itself, Yes,

607
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<v Speaker 2>the fourth on Friday, generally, I'm here and it's going

608
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<v Speaker 2>to be a pretty good day. Might be the best

609
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<v Speaker 2>of the week.

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<v Speaker 6>It certainly looks like that right now. It looks like

611
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<v Speaker 6>it will be the nicest weather day of the week.

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00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 6>We're expecting a fair amount of sunshine. High pressure is

613
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 6>going to build in behind that secondary front on Thursday

614
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:29.119
<v Speaker 6>and that's going to allow things to not only clear out,

615
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 6>so we'll see a decent amount of sunshine, it'll stay dry,

616
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.599
<v Speaker 6>but the humidity comes down pretty nicely as well. We're

617
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<v Speaker 6>looking at two point temperatures in the fifties, which is

618
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.119
<v Speaker 6>which is a very comfortable level, certainly for this time

619
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<v Speaker 6>of year. In the early part of July, so looks

620
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:43.480
<v Speaker 6>really good temperatures will be in the mid eighties. So

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<v Speaker 6>if you want to get in the pool, it's gonna

622
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.239
<v Speaker 6>be warm enough for that. But if you're doing other

623
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<v Speaker 6>outdoor activities, it's not going to be like it was

624
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 6>last week when you as soon as you step outside

625
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:54.239
<v Speaker 6>you're covered in sweat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt, we remember that. Well, okay, so let's

627
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<v Speaker 2>just just talk long term. After the fourth, we get

628
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<v Speaker 2>to Sunday, the fifth, and then there's a week next week.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the long term forecast looking like for next week?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, after we get past the fourth, it is going

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<v Speaker 6>to gradually turn hotter over the weekend. By the time

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<v Speaker 6>we get to Sunday, especially, it is going to be

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<v Speaker 6>pretty hot, pretty humid again. I think we'll be back

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<v Speaker 6>up near ninety degrees. The thunderstorm risk may go up

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit by Sunday, but overall, I think most

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<v Speaker 6>of the holiday weekend is going to be dry. The

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<v Speaker 6>way it looks right now, and as we get into

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<v Speaker 6>next week, we'll likely overall see a fairly humid stretch

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<v Speaker 6>of weather that's going to take us through the at

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<v Speaker 6>least the first half of the week. Again, at least

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<v Speaker 6>through the first half of the week, it looks pretty hot.

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<v Speaker 6>Temperature is probably up near ninety degrees. Maybe temperatures come

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<v Speaker 6>down a bit so the middle part of next week,

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<v Speaker 6>but the humidity is probably gonna be with us through

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<v Speaker 6>a good chunk of next week, which is not terribly

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<v Speaker 6>un common this time of year.

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<v Speaker 2>Last question, Okay, and I'm going to exercise the talk

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<v Speaker 2>show host prerogative here on Tuesday, I'm going to we

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<v Speaker 2>have some tickets for called a farm to table dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>It's outdoors. A year ago it got rained out on

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<v Speaker 2>the cape. What are the chances that it won't get

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<v Speaker 2>rained out this year? If you get my drift Tuesday

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday evening.

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<v Speaker 6>It looks promising at this point. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 6>one of the better rain chances next week, I'll put

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<v Speaker 6>it that way. A lot can change the late thie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only New England. I utanded I do, but I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you if it works out as well as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you a little toast with a glass of wine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, sounds good. That's great. I do appreciate it

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<v Speaker 2>so much, Brian. Thank you very very much for joining

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<v Speaker 2>us tonight, that is for sure. And we'll talk soon,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a couple of weeks. Thank you, Budy, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourth of July to you as well, you too. All

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<v Speaker 2>we had done for this hour, we're moving on to

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<v Speaker 2>the nine o'clock news, and after the nine o'clock news,

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to talk about a street fight Newton.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a big street fight Newton and Will. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting. Stay with us. There's there's no violence here,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of anger and a lot of frustrations.