Speaker 1: It's night time with Dan Ray. I'm gelling you Boston's
Speaker 1: and News Radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what we're doing here is talking about what's
Speaker 2: going on halfway around the world. It's now dawn morning
Speaker 2: in Israel and in Tehran. Tehran has been hit overnight
Speaker 2: very hard. I'm looking at the New York Times. Let
Speaker 2: me just to set this up. The Times is reporting
Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes ago, Israel carried out a
Speaker 2: major attack in Iran's nuclear program on Friday morning, killing
Speaker 2: top Iranian military officials as well. That would indicate to
Speaker 2: me that they have some people on the ground who
Speaker 2: can target where these people are spending the evenings. The
Speaker 2: strikes raised fears the long shimmering conflict between the two
Speaker 2: countries could escalate into a war involving the most powerful
Speaker 2: militaries in the Middle East. I don't know that Iran's
Speaker 2: military is particularly powerful after tonight, but we'll find out.
Speaker 2: The commander in chief of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards, General
Speaker 2: Hossein Salami, among the dead reported by state media residents
Speaker 2: of Tehran. The Iranian capitol reporter hearing huge explosions in
Speaker 2: Iranian state television broadcast images of smoke and fire billowing
Speaker 2: from buildings. One senior Iranian official, speaking on the condition
Speaker 2: of anonymity, said Iran's fighter jets had taken off to
Speaker 2: intercept the Israeli warplanes. Well, we'll say. Several Israeli officials
Speaker 2: described the attacks as a preemptive strike intended to keep
Speaker 2: Iran from acquiring a nuclear bomb. The Israeli military said
Speaker 2: the strikes had targeted sites critical to Iran's long range
Speaker 2: missile capabilities, delivery system, and its nuclear programs. Four minutes ago,
Speaker 2: a number of Republicans in Washington, Washington are issuing stark
Speaker 2: warnings to leaders in Iran if US interests are targeted.
Speaker 2: Senator Lindsay Graham, Republican of South Carolina, sat in a
Speaker 2: social media post that America should have an overwhelming response
Speaker 2: if American personnel or installations are targeted, vowing to destroy
Speaker 2: all of Iran's oil refineries and oil infrastructure with the
Speaker 2: aim of putting the Aetola and his hencement out of
Speaker 2: the oil business. Oil prices have surged in the last
Speaker 2: day or so, UH and stock prices have in the
Speaker 2: short term tumbled, but that would to be would to
Speaker 2: be is to be expected. The sites that were hit
Speaker 2: uh Tabreeze explosions reported near a nuclear research center and
Speaker 2: two military bases. Kermanshaw, I'm unfamiliar with that. What is there?
Speaker 2: A rock? A rock ar a k the ton's israels
Speaker 2: attacked Iran's main enrichment facility, and Tran residents reported seeing
Speaker 2: Israeli fighter jets. Nor News reports that Ali Shamkani has
Speaker 2: been severely injured in air strikes on his home. Home
Speaker 2: is in a hospital in Tehran. Shakami with spearheading nuclear
Speaker 2: negotiations on behalf of the Supreme Leader. Raphael Grossi, the
Speaker 2: chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency, confirmed in a
Speaker 2: statement that Natan's nuclear strike has been targeted in the
Speaker 2: Israeli attacks. These agencies in contact with Iranian authorities regarding
Speaker 2: radiation levels, who are also in contact with our inspectors
Speaker 2: in the country. Grossi said on social media, calling this
Speaker 2: situation in Iran deeply concerning. Well, it is deeply concerning
Speaker 2: to the Iranian people. Let's go six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. Mike,
Speaker 2: you were first this hour on night Side. Your thoughts
Speaker 2: on what is transpiring in Iran, even as we speak.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Mike, Hey, anybody I.
Speaker 2: Can hear you, Mike, right ahead.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I awesomely support it one hundred percent. You know,
Speaker 4: with about time we finally knocked them out, and this
Speaker 4: situation we're go on for a while. And you know,
Speaker 4: I had been dragging the feat about this situation for
Speaker 4: a while, you know, and are good for them. And
Speaker 4: it's not like a one and done. It's going to
Speaker 4: be going for numerous days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think. I don't think,
Speaker 2: and I'm no expert here, but I don't think when
Speaker 2: Israel decides to take something out, the Israel will want
Speaker 2: to finish this. There's a there's a photograph of the
Speaker 2: New York Times here of Iranians. This looks like a
Speaker 2: photograph that was taken for the New York Times maybe
Speaker 2: four or five hours as the attacks were going on.
Speaker 2: A group of Iranians are watching from a It looks
Speaker 2: like a I don't gather at the top.
Speaker 5: Said earlier.
Speaker 2: What did he say earlier? I missed what you said there, Mike.
Speaker 4: It's going to be going off for days. There's not
Speaker 4: a one and done.
Speaker 2: Dang, no question about that. There's no question about that
Speaker 2: Israel is in is in this fight to win it.
Speaker 2: They they've been attacked so many times. They know that
Speaker 2: once Iran got a nuclear weapon and had a delivery system,
Speaker 2: Israel was in the crosshairs and yeah, who was not
Speaker 2: going to allow that to happen. So I hope that
Speaker 2: they're successful, but we will see the.
Speaker 4: Only problem with them is they don't have any bunker bombs.
Speaker 4: Bunker bombs and uh really take effect on a nuclear program,
Speaker 4: you know they're taking. The big thing was that it
Speaker 4: took out the leader guy, which is as clover as
Speaker 4: to uh Solemione when Trump did. So that's a good
Speaker 4: hit right there.
Speaker 2: Well, the leader of the revolutionary God. That's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't be don't be surprised if we find out at
Speaker 2: some point that somehow Israel had some bunker bomb bunker
Speaker 2: busting bombs that they were able to use because as
Speaker 2: some of the Iranian locations are so built inside mountains
Speaker 2: that they're almost u you know, just inaccessible to a job.
Speaker 2: Which also we may find out when this is over
Speaker 2: that Israel had some troops on the ground, some special
Speaker 2: forces on the ground, so uh, they they hit it
Speaker 2: was it was unexpected. It was a surprise attack. Uh,
Speaker 2: we'll we'll get it better by this time tomorrow night,
Speaker 2: we'll have a better understanding of how much damage was
Speaker 2: done and what what what Israel has to do from
Speaker 2: here on out. I think what Israel is looking to
Speaker 2: try to do is regime change. I mean, if it's possible.
Speaker 2: For there's a lot of unrest, particularly amongst young people
Speaker 2: in Iran who are just tired of theocracy. Uh, they
Speaker 2: want their food. Mike, I appreciate your callers always. Thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us, Thank you, thank you, you too. Got
Speaker 2: some open lines here six one seven, six one seven
Speaker 2: nine three one, ten thirty. This is a real quick break,
Speaker 2: So dial away and we'll turn it around and we'll
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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Just checking around here as as I tend to do
Speaker 2: it nights, as I tend to do at night. I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the They have what they call the Dow
Speaker 2: futures stock market futures. And whenever something like this happens, Uh,
Speaker 2: you you always get an immediate downturn. So we have
Speaker 2: the Dow futures down one and a half percent. Uh,
Speaker 2: that is not where it will end up tomorrow, but
Speaker 2: that's where it at least is starting. Uh and uh,
Speaker 2: you know this is this is always the way that
Speaker 2: you have these futures down. Sm P futures are down
Speaker 2: one point seven percent, nestack down one point eight percent.
Speaker 2: That is always the uncertainty that the market hates, and
Speaker 2: also oil prices immediately go up. But my suspicion is
Speaker 2: that if the Israelis are successful and in the runs
Speaker 2: nuclear capabilities are severely damaged or eliminated, it'll be good
Speaker 2: for not only the world, but for the stock market
Speaker 2: as well. Join the conversation. We got open lines, folks.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Harriet in Tewksbury. Harriet, you were
Speaker 2: next on nightside.
Speaker 3: Welcome, Hi, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 6: I'm just so sad that Israel has to get into
Speaker 6: so many battles and citizens have to be put through
Speaker 6: a while. They're just still waiting for the hostages to
Speaker 6: be relieved. It's so awful.
Speaker 7: And that when President Obama was in they want him,
Speaker 7: they said, please, don't let them get the nuclear power
Speaker 7: and they didn't really need it, and he lets them
Speaker 7: get it. And so now Israel has to suffer and
Speaker 7: go into another war that shouldn't have even to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, if Israel is successful and they strategize these things
Speaker 2: out very well, they take their time, and if they're
Speaker 2: successful in their strikes tonight, and we won't know, probably
Speaker 2: for twenty four to forty eight hours, the extent of
Speaker 2: the damage that they've inflicted Israel. Israel is in a
Speaker 2: tough spot over there, geographically and militarily. There's surrounded by
Speaker 2: countries that have been traditionally hostile to them.
Speaker 8: And.
Speaker 2: This is not going to increase Israel's stature in certain
Speaker 2: parts of the Middle East. But I think this had
Speaker 2: to be done. Israel just couldn't stand by and wait
Speaker 2: for Iran to hit him with a nuclear weapon in
Speaker 2: my opinion.
Speaker 7: Oh that I know, But I'm saying it's just a
Speaker 7: band that they had to come to the They shouldn't
Speaker 7: have had that in the first place. But anyway, I'm.
Speaker 6: Hoped hopefully there's fil and it's all taken out.
Speaker 7: And they can have some peace over there. They certainly
Speaker 7: deserve it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let me tell you, sometimes peace is not
Speaker 2: the absence of war. And if if they have been
Speaker 2: as successful as it would appear, and again I think
Speaker 2: it's going to take days weeks to figure out exactly
Speaker 2: the extent of their success. It looks as if they
Speaker 2: the Iranians, got a little sloppy because they Israel knew
Speaker 2: where some of the leadership were spending their nights, and
Speaker 2: they were they were hitting. They hit the private homes
Speaker 2: of some of these Iranian leaders in the military and
Speaker 2: of the scientific community, and they those those people are
Speaker 2: now off the battlefield, if you if you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and Israel. Israel took the gloves off tonight
Speaker 2: in my opinion, But there are other people who might
Speaker 2: disagree with both you and me. But I appreciate you
Speaker 2: taking the time to call in Harriet as always. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, talk soon. Bad night.
Speaker 2: All right, folks, don't be shy, step right up. Let
Speaker 2: me know what you think, whatever your point of view is.
Speaker 2: It seems as if the US can claim clean hends,
Speaker 2: they can. They can say, hey, we had nothing to
Speaker 2: do with this. I'm sure Iran will blame us anyway.
Speaker 2: That's not a problem. But the big question coming out
Speaker 2: of this is has their capability been crippled or do
Speaker 2: they have the ability to strike back I know that
Speaker 2: watching during the eleven o'clock news some of the cable
Speaker 2: network news, a lot of it was, well, Iran, now,
Speaker 2: what will Iran do? My question is what can they do?
Speaker 2: Six one, seven, two five for ten thirty six one,
Speaker 2: seven thirty. Always difficult to talk about a breaking news story,
Speaker 2: particularly of this magnitude. So if you're out there and
Speaker 2: you have an opinion, feel free to join our conversation.
Speaker 2: Next up is Matt. Matt glad to hear you, hear
Speaker 2: you call in tonight. What's your thoughts on all of this?
Speaker 3: Hey, Dan?
Speaker 9: Well, first off, I want to say that this is
Speaker 9: historic and a monumental and a win for not only
Speaker 9: the world, but for Israel and for society. Definitely unprecedented
Speaker 9: from just what I'm hearing, and there's little basis I
Speaker 9: can hold to that something that likely may have been
Speaker 9: carried out by Massad and they, as you said a
Speaker 9: couple minutes ago, this may have been a strategic move
Speaker 9: to change the occupation of government going on over there,
Speaker 9: which is so desperately needed, so many great people over
Speaker 9: there that are held since nineteen seventy nine by the
Speaker 9: rule of the.
Speaker 3: Iatola and stuff like that of the Sharia law.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, back in two thousand and seven, there
Speaker 2: was an Israeli operation that hit a suspected nuclear reactor
Speaker 2: in Syria, and then there was a I believe that
Speaker 2: there was a strike back in the early eighties as
Speaker 2: well by Israel. So Israel has always been willing to
Speaker 2: to They're not just sitting there waiting to be hit. Okay,
Speaker 2: they you know, they they look they have been.
Speaker 3: Through this before any times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again they have. They hit a Syrian nuclear
Speaker 2: reactor which had been built ironically by North Korea, back
Speaker 2: in September of two thousand and seven, and I believe
Speaker 2: that in the early nineteen eighties there was another site
Speaker 2: is that Israel hit as well, So there's a lot
Speaker 2: you know, Israel. Israel is a small country, It's a
Speaker 2: powerful country, and it was not going to stand by
Speaker 2: and watch their neighbor build the bomb, be able to
Speaker 2: deliver it and drop it on an Israeli city, thank God.
Speaker 9: Right, I agree, And I think first and form I mean, okay,
Speaker 9: one or two very quick things to mention is that, look,
Speaker 9: Israel is capable. Israel is a small country, but they
Speaker 9: are a strong country. They stand, you know, warts and
Speaker 9: all they stand and they do defend and give them
Speaker 9: a Rubio's statement today. They took this out and they
Speaker 9: took it on themselves, and they've done this before and
Speaker 9: it's recognizable to know that Israel's capable of this, and
Speaker 9: Israel defends a democracy in themselves and this will hopefully
Speaker 9: bring peace in some way to Iran and change and
Speaker 9: to the other end of it, they unlike what goes
Speaker 9: on in Gaza, they use mountains, they use inside of
Speaker 9: you know, mountainous regions. They don't go into the tunnels
Speaker 9: in Iran as much.
Speaker 2: But by the way, to say that, in June of
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one, Israel destroyed an unfinished Iraqi nuclear reactor
Speaker 2: very close to Baghdad, and that was considered a breathtaking
Speaker 2: operation at the time. So so yeah, they have a
Speaker 2: record of acting preemptively when they feel us in the
Speaker 2: interest of their country. Matt has always appreciate your voice.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Appreciate ga to hepciated, thanks for giving the time.
Speaker 2: On So for now, everybody seems to be pretty happy
Speaker 2: with what's going on. Let me go to Margie and
Speaker 2: the cat Skills. Margie in New York, Welcome, How are
Speaker 2: you tonight.
Speaker 8: Guess Srian, I agree totally what your last caller said,
Speaker 8: especially his last sentence, And what I'm going to talk
Speaker 8: about is what do you think has been the major
Speaker 8: cost of war over the last centuries.
Speaker 2: Being unprepared for war and appearing too weak?
Speaker 8: Well, if you think about it, religion has been the
Speaker 8: major cause of war, either acquiring land or religion.
Speaker 2: But no country has been attacked because the other country
Speaker 2: thought they were too strong. We exactly, We in nineteen
Speaker 2: forty one were perceived by the Japanese as being weak.
Speaker 2: We were perceived by the Germans as being isolationist.
Speaker 8: You nailed it. I'm going to make this very brief
Speaker 8: because I'm recalling something I heard word for word in
Speaker 8: about nineteen fifty one or fifty two, and it has
Speaker 8: exactly to do with the situation today. And it was
Speaker 8: made by a comedian. Now you're too young to know him,
Speaker 8: but when I was in college, the most popular comedian
Speaker 8: in the war in America made seventy eight records. You know,
Speaker 8: in the old days, comedians like New Art and all.
Speaker 8: You could buy a seventy eight record.
Speaker 2: Who is the comedian you're referring to that now?
Speaker 8: I don't know if you've ever heard him. I'm sure
Speaker 8: you can use to him. He sings his act. His
Speaker 8: name is Tom lera L e h R e R.
Speaker 2: Never heard of him that.
Speaker 8: Okay, he's much too old for you, but he's worth
Speaker 8: looking up. He was as brilliant as George Carlin. But
Speaker 8: he sang everything. And I'm going to give you his
Speaker 8: exact quote from I'd say fifty one or fifty two.
Speaker 2: I don't hang up, but whatever you do, don't sing it.
Speaker 2: Give us the quote.
Speaker 8: No, no, no, God anyway, isn't it funny that I've
Speaker 8: never forgotten it.
Speaker 10: I don't have to look it up.
Speaker 8: I've remembered it. And the song goes. It's a long song,
Speaker 8: but one verse says, Israel's going to get one two
Speaker 8: just to drop on you know who the lord's are.
Speaker 8: Shepherd says the psalm, but just in case, we better
Speaker 8: get a bomb.
Speaker 2: Well, Israel's had a bomb for a long time.
Speaker 8: They have Thanks a lot. I'll say good night, thank you, right,
Speaker 8: thank you, Marjorie.
Speaker 2: Israel has had a bomb for a long time. They
Speaker 2: are a nuclear power. They haven't used it even while
Speaker 2: they were fighting several wars. To their credit, let me
Speaker 2: go to Doreen. I'm gonna try to get Doreen here
Speaker 2: before we go to a CBS news special. Hi, Doreen,
Speaker 2: go right ahead.
Speaker 11: Hi Dan, I wanted to maybe that's what you were
Speaker 11: talking about. Did you ever hear with the studskun missile error?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, that was yeah, I remember that. That was
Speaker 2: back in the early nineties. Yes, I remember it, Yes
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 11: Isn't that one Israel shot the missile because someone fired
Speaker 11: at them first?
Speaker 2: Well, they were, they were under attack, and and and
Speaker 2: we had we had a scud missile that Israel had
Speaker 2: bought was from a Massachusetts company. I mean they bought
Speaker 2: a lot of them, and the scud missile would would
Speaker 2: knock down missiles that were raining down. Now they have
Speaker 2: their their dome facility, which is not a physical facility,
Speaker 2: but it structured to defend Israel from from these attacks.
Speaker 2: Israel is attacked every week and it's benefitic.
Speaker 11: Jan I got to say, this is true.
Speaker 5: Why are they always picking on that time for Israel?
Speaker 2: Well, the world doesn't like Israel for a whole lot
Speaker 2: of reasons. There's a lot of anti Semitism in the world. Uh,
Speaker 2: and they uh, the some in the Arab community who
Speaker 2: do not want to coexist with Israel feel that they
Speaker 2: can defeat Israel, and that's a huge mistake, as many
Speaker 2: of the nations over there. I found out over time, Doren,
Speaker 2: I'm coming up on a CBS News report, and so
Speaker 2: I got to let you go. But I thank you
Speaker 2: for joining us tonight, and thank you for reminding us
Speaker 2: of the SCUD Mischel missile. Thanks Doreen. Right there goes Toreen.
Speaker 2: We're coming back right after the CBS News special report.
Speaker 2: I got wide open lines. There's no reason for that
Speaker 2: light that lines up. We'll be back right after this
Speaker 2: report from CBS.
Speaker 1: Newsnight SI with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Of course, we're beginning to get more reaction from the
Speaker 2: Middle East, and again I realized this is a huge story,
Speaker 2: and I know that many of you are probably thinking, well,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what I feel. I would ask you
Speaker 2: to please feel free to give us a call. I
Speaker 2: have wide open lines. There is an attack tonight by
Speaker 2: Israel on the government of Iran, and I emphasize this
Speaker 2: on the government of Iran, not of the people of Iran.
Speaker 2: These were selected targets of military leaders, nuclear scientists in
Speaker 2: Iran as well as nuclear facilities. The attack is now
Speaker 2: expected to continue for many days. There are different reports
Speaker 2: coming out Iranian media. It's reporting that Brigadier General Muhammad Bagheri,
Speaker 2: the commander in chief of the armed forces and the
Speaker 2: second highest commander after the Supreme Leader, has been killed
Speaker 2: in an Israeli targeted strike. The blow to Iran's chain
Speaker 2: of command is significant. Israel has taken out three top
Speaker 2: ranking senior commanders, similar to the operations that took out
Speaker 2: the Hespola's command staff, so that is an interesting development.
Speaker 2: A third wave of attacks has started targeting targeting radars
Speaker 2: and ear defenses across the country. This is as a
Speaker 2: result of a reporter named faranars Fasisi Fasihi. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure where she is reporting from. Meanwhile, a reporter in
Speaker 2: Jerusalem says that Mohammad MoManI, Jordan's government spokesman, said that
Speaker 2: the Kingdom of Jordan will not allow its airspace to
Speaker 2: be violated. According to the state run Petra news agency,
Speaker 2: Jordan is located between Israel and Iran, and saw Iranian
Speaker 2: ballistic missiles fly through its territory toward Israel twice last
Speaker 2: year during Iranian attacks. Against Israel, So a little bit
Speaker 2: of a double standard there by Jordan. The commander in
Speaker 2: chief of Iran's powerful Islamic Revolutionary Guards, General Hossain Salami,
Speaker 2: is among the dead reported by state media. And again
Speaker 2: what's important through all of this is that Iran is
Speaker 2: on its heels. Israel has killed top Iranian commanders, in
Speaker 2: nuclear scientists. This is what's being admitted by Iran. Israel's
Speaker 2: wave of attacks, this is just twenty nine minutes ago
Speaker 2: in the New York Times in Iran overnight on Friday,
Speaker 2: targeted top Iranian officials and appeared to successfully kill the
Speaker 2: leader of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard in a shocking series
Speaker 2: of strikes that aim to deal significant blows to Iran
Speaker 2: security leadership. Again, we mentioned this guy before. Hostan Salami,
Speaker 2: the commander of Islamic Revolutionary Guards, killed in an Israeli
Speaker 2: airstrike within the Iranian capital of Tehran. According to Tasnim,
Speaker 2: the semi official news side affiliated with the government. As
Speaker 2: leader of the force, mister Salami had helped oversee the
Speaker 2: relationship with Iran proxies like Hesbola, the Lebanese arm group
Speaker 2: which had long menaced Israel. So again as this continues
Speaker 2: into the day now and whether or not Israel will
Speaker 2: continue attacking during the day. They are now trying to
Speaker 2: hit the radar installations, which will further cripple to Ran.
Speaker 2: This is a again, it is a breath taking attack
Speaker 2: in terms of its ability to pinpoint civilian and military
Speaker 2: leadership in their homes. Apparently these people died in the
Speaker 2: beds that they slept, very similar to what happened when
Speaker 2: they went after Hesbolah leaders in Lebanon. The Israeli military
Speaker 2: is very good, is very good. Iran has been I
Speaker 2: think stalling for time and I think that's what the
Speaker 2: Israelis belt and they are paying a price for it tonight.
Speaker 2: But Israel and Netanyahu, and I know Netanya, who is
Speaker 2: not very popular in this country, although he should be
Speaker 2: in my opinion. Let me go to Ken in Waltham,
Speaker 2: would like to join the conversation with wide open lines. Everybody,
Speaker 2: Ken and Waltham. Hi, Ken, how are you okay?
Speaker 5: Good? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I'm taking all past.
Speaker 2: Because circumstances require that. Go right ahead, Ken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so one, I think I so scud missiles are
Speaker 3: a Russian missile by the way, I think I heard
Speaker 3: you say they were ours.
Speaker 2: I thought they were developed by trying to remember the
Speaker 2: name of the company here, I.
Speaker 3: Think you're maybe you're I don't know, if you're thinking
Speaker 3: of a Patriot which we were using.
Speaker 2: Maybe I was thinking of the Patriot missiles. Yeah, okay, another.
Speaker 3: No, I was going to say another kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Tidbit from nineteen eighty one was Israel actually had to
Speaker 3: fly over uh. It was I think it might have
Speaker 3: been Syria to UH Syria or Saudi Arabia. I don't
Speaker 3: I didn't look at a map I should have before
Speaker 3: I called, but to hit Baghdad and that was like
Speaker 3: a big deal because whichever country it was, that the
Speaker 3: whole thought was that Israel had had to have coordinated
Speaker 3: with them and they and you know that country was
Speaker 3: just as concerned about Baghdad as nuclear facility.
Speaker 2: Is that case. I think it was only a couple
Speaker 2: of Israeli planes. It was nothing on the scope of this,
Speaker 2: by the right. By the way, Ken, you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 2: Scott missil is one of a series of tactical ballistic
Speaker 2: missiles developed by the Soviet Union during the Cold War.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was exported widely to Second and third
Speaker 2: World countries. It was the Patriot missile and I'm trying
Speaker 2: I'll figure out that's what I was thinking. There was
Speaker 2: also there was a reporter was who was nicknamed the
Speaker 2: stud Scud, the scud stud, and I forget his name,
Speaker 2: but he was in like during the First the First
Speaker 2: War that they took out Saddam Hussein from a from
Speaker 2: Iraq by in nineteen ninety one. If I wet.
Speaker 3: So I did. I didn't. Yeah, No, I wanted to.
Speaker 3: I mean, one of the reasons I haven't really talked
Speaker 3: explicitly about this and I just I'm concerned about doing it.
Speaker 3: But one of the reasons I'm so passionate about supporting
Speaker 3: Ukraine is episodes like this, because what kind of support
Speaker 3: at this point can Russia give a Ran And I
Speaker 3: would it's probably a lot less than they could have
Speaker 3: done maybe three years ago.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And now the question also is the flip
Speaker 2: side of that coin, what support Iran has been selling
Speaker 2: or giving drone missiles to Russia that have been used
Speaker 2: in the attacks on Ukraine. And by the way, you're
Speaker 2: the Patriot missile system was a Raytheon product.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I worked for a raygun for twenty four years,
Speaker 3: so I'm familiar with it.
Speaker 2: I got it, okay.
Speaker 3: And you know, the scud was. It wasn't a very
Speaker 3: advanced missile, but Patriot wasn't so advanced back in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety one either, and all capabilities are much much improved now.
Speaker 2: By the way, here's another thing. The stud, the scud stud,
Speaker 2: was a reporter, Canadian TV journalist whose name was Arthur Kent,
Speaker 2: and he was there's an article here. He was an
Speaker 2: NBC reporter. And I guess he didn't have a great,
Speaker 2: great career in the media. He was fired. He was fired.
Speaker 2: I guess he was. He was an NBC dismissed Arthur
Speaker 2: Kent in nineteen ninety two. So he had a he
Speaker 2: had a meteor a meteor like career, a meteoric career,
Speaker 2: but it didn't last a long time. It's funny how
Speaker 2: people they sort of drifted and out of our lives.
Speaker 2: He was, he was, he was, He was always there
Speaker 2: and that was his nickname. You can people can look
Speaker 2: it up, Arthur Kent. They stud scud, the scud stud.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, the scud stud.
Speaker 3: Oh man, if if anyone could bring some levity into
Speaker 3: this situation, you're the you're the man on that mean
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm the other thing I was going
Speaker 3: to say. I mean, I'm just so supportive of Israel here.
Speaker 3: You know, the United States and are support of both
Speaker 3: Israel and Ukraine. I think has just been paramount for this.
Speaker 3: You know, Hezbalah is weak, Hamas is weak, right, Iran
Speaker 3: is weak, right. I mean the timing is maybe perfect
Speaker 3: for Israel to take this action. I'm I'm very with
Speaker 3: my knowledge of what's going on here, which isn't that great.
Speaker 3: But I'm a little more pessimistic. I mean, it's really
Speaker 3: hard to I think, to get to these Iranian facilities.
Speaker 3: I sure hope Israel successful. I think this might be
Speaker 3: more of a long term mission. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: mean I'd love to see tomorrow that they were one
Speaker 3: hundred percent successful and it's over, right, I mean, I
Speaker 3: think that's unlikely, but well.
Speaker 2: Would be the overturning of the Iranian government. This this
Speaker 2: theocratic regime here, which has kept the Iranian people under
Speaker 2: the boot for forty six years and is time to
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the Iranian people are an innovative
Speaker 2: and freedom loving people, and they've had the Green Revolution
Speaker 2: there as I'm sure you know, and uh yeah, there
Speaker 2: have been. There have been protests there which we don't hear.
Speaker 2: A lot of this is ah a government that allows
Speaker 2: gay people to be thrown off the roofs of buildings.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 2: And that's to me, it's like I see some of
Speaker 2: these anti Israeli demonstrations here in America and it's like,
Speaker 2: if you're anti Israeli, you were supporting You're get You're
Speaker 2: giving support too to the Iranian government, which would throw
Speaker 2: a lot of these demonstrators off the roof of a
Speaker 2: building without without thinking for a second. Uh.
Speaker 3: It justice is insane, but there is there is a
Speaker 3: lot of underlying support for it. And I think we
Speaker 3: saw it a lot on the Obama administration, and there
Speaker 3: were some protests right and the right really criticize Obama
Speaker 3: because he was slow to, you know, vocalize his support
Speaker 3: for the Iranian people who are supporting the West. And
Speaker 3: I think there's there has been a lot of underlying
Speaker 3: support for the West in Iran.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I'm happy about that. Conser was Obama was
Speaker 2: he and Kerry were we're going to make a deal
Speaker 2: with Iran, and they sent him bales of money, crates
Speaker 2: of money, billions of dollars to try to buy Iran,
Speaker 2: and Iran just took the money and gave nothing back,
Speaker 2: and they just continued to develop the potential capacity. And
Speaker 2: it's now up to little old Israel to take him
Speaker 2: out tonight.
Speaker 3: So you know, so I think's yeah, I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I think I agree with all of that, except for
Speaker 3: maybe the last part. I mean, I according to what
Speaker 3: I was reading, you know, we really did have good
Speaker 3: verification when the deal was in place, and and Iran
Speaker 3: did stop, you know, producing in our uranium and those
Speaker 3: kinds of things.
Speaker 2: They stopped, they stopped briefly. We we sent them literally
Speaker 2: billions of dollars.
Speaker 3: We well, I think, yeah, we we on what's the word?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think we sent them any We
Speaker 3: unfroze their assets, I think, which is effectively is the
Speaker 3: same thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's right. They were eight billion dollars
Speaker 2: richer as a result of what we did. Hey, I
Speaker 2: got a run ken, appreciate you taking a hall pass tonight.
Speaker 2: Thank you much.
Speaker 3: We thank you, Dan, great talking you good night.
Speaker 2: Little disappointed here that more people aren't rising to this issue.
Speaker 2: I'm sure by tomorrow night everybody will know about it
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about this again tomorrow night. But I
Speaker 2: got a couple of open lines. Feel free if you
Speaker 2: dial now, I'll get you in six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: I would expect my audience to be supportive of Israel,
Speaker 2: but you know, you know, I'd like to hear that support, uh,
Speaker 2: and just not it's out there. We'll be back on
Speaker 2: Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Okay, we got a bunch of folks here, so let's
Speaker 2: try to get everybody in. Nobody has been on any
Speaker 2: longer than nine minutes, so Larry, you're going to start
Speaker 2: us off here. I'd love to give everybody a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes.
Speaker 12: Go ahead, Larry, Okay. To begin with, I've actually had
Speaker 12: contact with people from the Israeli Air Force as well
Speaker 12: as Israeli Defense forces.
Speaker 5: And I'm retired in the.
Speaker 2: US Air Force, and thank you for your service.
Speaker 12: Which is where some of that come from, including the
Speaker 12: commander or Fighter Wings and Israeli Air Force on the
Speaker 12: types of defenses I can't get into the details, okay,
Speaker 12: but and also Israeli defense members coming here in a
Speaker 12: meeting which I also attended and met him, including another
Speaker 12: Israeli general.
Speaker 2: And it's.
Speaker 12: To say nothing of the last time or they had
Speaker 12: a situation I ran. They went over with eight F
Speaker 12: sixteens each carrying a pair of two thousand pound bombs
Speaker 12: into Iran and hit every single one of the targets. Basically,
Speaker 12: sixteen strikes, sixteen bombs, and all sixteen were right on target.
Speaker 12: And that's something that's actually been on the news.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's good to know, Larry. I appreciate that information.
Speaker 2: I really do. In two thousand pound bombs, are they
Speaker 2: considered bunk or busting capacity?
Speaker 12: Yes, they are. And in that case, each F sixteen
Speaker 12: carried a pair of them, and there were eight F
Speaker 12: sixteens involved in that, and the lieutenant colonel from Israeli
Speaker 12: Air Forces lad and they flew right over Jordanian airspace
Speaker 12: to access I ran.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why Jordan responded, Larry, great information, Thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. I'm trying to get everybody else in,
Speaker 2: but that was one of the best calls of the night.
Speaker 2: As late as it was, I showed wish I could
Speaker 2: have talked. Call again and we'll we'll have a longer conversation.
Speaker 12: Okay, okay, and I'll let you go. I know they
Speaker 12: got other callers, but I thought i'd get that into.
Speaker 12: I'll let you get in Israel's dealt with Iran before
Speaker 12: and in some of the contact I've had that people
Speaker 12: normally wouldn't have had. It sounds like I'll let you
Speaker 12: escape me and get onto the next callers.
Speaker 2: All right, and thank thank you for your service. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Larry. You got to keep rolling here, Steven Merrimack, Steve,
Speaker 2: you've got to be quick for me. Please go right ahead.
Speaker 5: I just want to say I would rather see a
Speaker 5: preemptive conventional attack like Israel did tonight than the alternative,
Speaker 5: which would have been a nuclear prevent because.
Speaker 2: Absolutely that that was what they were going to do.
Speaker 5: If if we're in developed a bomb and they already
Speaker 5: said they were not going to let them do it,
Speaker 5: this is the next best thing. I also believe that
Speaker 5: we've provided intelligence, you know, satellite intelligence to help Israel
Speaker 5: for these target getting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm certain of that. There's no question in my mind.
Speaker 2: I'm certain of that. Steve. Thank you, great points, well presented.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Next up, Bill and Danvers. Bill, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get you in here and one more maybe go ahead, Bill.
Speaker 5: Get you up. No, it had to be done. And
Speaker 5: I don't want to say, you know, it's not yet
Speaker 5: a relief because we don't know, but hopefully it's at
Speaker 5: least effective. And yeah, and could they seem to take
Speaker 5: out some real leadership.
Speaker 2: So all they do with those guys are sleeping tonight.
Speaker 2: That's that's the mark of Israel. They're pretty smart. Thank you, Bill.
Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, I'll let you go.
Speaker 2: Bye, Thankyboddy, Larry you need him, Larry, you gotta be
Speaker 2: quick for Iim're gonna try to get one more and Larry.
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, yes. Tom Lera is very famous around here.
Speaker 10: He listen Cambridge. He was born in nineteen twenty eight.
Speaker 10: He was brilliant. He's a mathematician, graduated High and Todd
Speaker 10: at MIT. And his topical music. I have some of
Speaker 10: his record his vinyl.
Speaker 2: That's that's what Maggie and the Cats and the catskills.
Speaker 10: I call just just to tell you about him, that
Speaker 10: he lives here in Cambridge and he came from New York.
Speaker 2: Thank you much, thanks, thank you so much. That's great
Speaker 2: to know. I hope he's doing well. Okay, my friend,
Speaker 2: Harvey Silverglade, Harvey, we got like thirty seconds that I
Speaker 2: can give you here.
Speaker 3: I can say it. In thirty seconds, the world is
Speaker 3: going to be howling at Israel's aggression, and eighty five
Speaker 3: percent of the world is going to be relieved.
Speaker 2: I think that's an astute observation. I truly believe that
Speaker 2: I really do well. We'll have a longer conversation maybe
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Okay, thank you, my friend, Bye bye, bye bye.
Speaker 2: What do we gotta let you?
Speaker 5: Dan?
Speaker 2: Okay, let me get uh in Roxbury, Richard. I can
Speaker 2: give you about twenty seconds. You just called. What can
Speaker 2: you do with twenty seconds? Richard? Well, you got a
Speaker 2: call early. We got a bad connection. This all right, man,
Speaker 2: appreciate it. All right, We're done for the night. I
Speaker 2: don't know why. I don't know why people call that
Speaker 2: late and don't have their thoughts together. But that's that's
Speaker 2: a problem anyway. Dan Catano, thank you very much. Great
Speaker 2: job tonight. I want to thank his flexibility. Tonight. We'll
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