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it when you do. We're getting you prep getting you

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ready for that. BYU Utah Holy War the rivalry game,

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Big noon kickoff is coming to town.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be there in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you show up, show out, get there early,

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create your signs and see if you can get on

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live television. And Utah's the favorite in this game. They

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are objectively if you look at some of the advanced analytics, okay,

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they are a slightly better team for ESPN SP plus

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ESPN FPI, and you can go into some other data

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and analysts Massey and Sagarin. There's a slight favorite there

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even on the objective data to the Utes, and so

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Vegas came out with their line and they're favoring the

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Utes even though BYU's at home. But we all know

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anything can happen in this game. Baus on a two

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game winning streak right now, and they're looking to make

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it three. They want to send Kyle Witdingham off into

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the into retirement, and you hope that BYU can come

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out Victoria's and continue down their their quest for staying undefeated.

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In this twenty twenty five season. They're looking good, as

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are the Utes. Their only loss is to Texas Tech.

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They Texas Tech's the best team in the conference. I

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don't think there's any question about that. And Texas Tech

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maybe one of the best teams, maybe top five teams

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in college football this year.

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Speaker 1: They look different.

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Speaker 3: They had to pay for it and they are built

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different through the nil transfer portal era. So we're gonna

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delve into all the knicks and grandis as it relates

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to the BYU Utah game.

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Speaker 1: We got to start study cast for you.

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Speaker 3: Let's fire up the ESPN, the fans starting lineup, and

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I can introduce you to my coast and the rest

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of the Star study cast.

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Speaker 1: Joining us for this.

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Speaker 3: Wednesday, October fifteenth edition of Cougar Sports, one of my

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favorite insiders has joined us. He's a fantastic rider for

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the Daily Herald. He's been covering the coog Sor for

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twenty years. Now let's welcome in the g man, Brandon

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see Gurdy?

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Speaker 1: What was that g man? I covered Ben Krittle when

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he was a player. That's how old I am old? Now, yeah,

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season seasoned indeeds. Right.

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Speaker 3: What's the biggest lessons you've learned over the last twenty

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years about covering the BYU Cougar football team?

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Speaker 4: Some things are not worth knowing about the football team.

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That is absolutely the number one thing I've learned since

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covering Bay year. And I think you know what I'm

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talking about here, but one thing you have, Like I

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started Total Blue Sports and that was like the insider site,

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and you have a lot of people around the have

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lots of family members, lots of big donors, and they

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tell you information is juicy that you think is great,

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but you can't really do anything with the information. So

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guess what, I don't even want to know it anyway.

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That's what thing I learned. That's probably a little too deep,

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maybe that's that's not what you're looking for, but that's

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absolutely the number one lesson I've learned since becoming a

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reporter is there's information that's worth knowing and there's information

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that no, I don't really want to know it's not

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Speaker 1: So there you.

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Speaker 4: Go, going deep just saying with this, I don't care

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what the players do off the field. That's that's that's

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their interest. That that's that's that's not my concern. That's

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not my job. So anyway, I got you. I reach

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here you go, I reach a loud and clear.

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Speaker 1: Did I go a little too deep on that? You know?

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I like to go deep. I like to go deep.

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But that's absolutely the number one thing I've learned. So yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: A great lesson to learn, in my opinion, and I'm

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glad you learned it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm glad you learned it. I heard all sorts

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of dirt about Cridle, all sorts of dirt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me living in the condemned home of my grandparents

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off of nineties Palmo, all manner of debauchery, shenanigans.

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Speaker 1: They called it.

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Speaker 3: The I have multi generational like multiplying and replenishing there.

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I didn't get to multiply and replenish there, unfortunately, but

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many did Grandma and grandpa, mom and dad, uncles and aunts.

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My I mean, look I got, I got, I got

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a lot of posterity that came forth from the love shack.

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It's now now it's a duplex. They tore it down

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and built a duplex because the church kept on, b

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y you rather kept on uh trying to buy it

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at like a discounted rate. They wanted that tithing discount.

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They wanted that. The LDS discounts didn't play ball with that. Well,

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the Websters, like Grandpa Webster wasn't about that action. No, no,

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he was not about that action. You're gonna you're gonna

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pay market rate. You're gonna pay market rate. And so

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finally I think Grandpa Webster is like, not, I'm building

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a duplex. Oh man, Grandma Webster is like to sell

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it to mom super Christ, just.

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Speaker 1: Sell it to him. Hell no, I gonna sell it

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to him. Good for grand.

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Speaker 3: Military man, boxer basket competitive dude had thirteen kids, you

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know he just yeah, he just poor.

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Speaker 1: Kid after kid.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Uh, they had joy and rejoicing in their posterity,

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no doubt about it. Grateful for their their uh, their

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grittynessh and their their their competitiveness and also uh Grandpa's

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uh and and Grandma's virility and potency and creating prosterity. Anyway,

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Let's get into something on the field, shall we uh.

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Let's also welcome in Ronald the three Man. We were

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to the show Ronnie, how you live It great? That's

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a great opening a bottle log by you.

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Speaker 1: Those things.

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Speaker 5: I always love it, I laugh, gim and I too

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had to learn that lesson. I won't reveal too much,

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but I twoted out a certain injury and I learned

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my lesson very young about sometimes it's a good just

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to know certain things, but not know some things. So

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you have to you have to go through the refiners.

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Fire experience is always good. So I too have learned that.

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But I've taken a lesson from you and Ben. I

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write down every lesson you guys tell me.

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Speaker 3: It's good to to to to learn from the wise.

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I wouldn't call me wise, but g Man definitely wise.

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Let's welcome in Bred always bringing the hammer hammer time

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show what's up?

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Speaker 1: Buddy?

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Speaker 6: Every time g Man and Ben Krittle get together, it

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is always something. Typically it's the over usage of the

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word girth, but today it was something different on the

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same vein.

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Speaker 4: In the all entirety, Yeah, girth is overused, not by me.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's be honest, Gernie, he's he's been known to

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to to be girthy. He's look at I'm looking right

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out girthy Gurnie's they can squat the house, but very strong.

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Speaker 1: And I also have a girth of knowledge.

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Speaker 3: And a girth of knowledge, no doubt about it. Shout

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out to you being here, guys, appreciate you. You got

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the rest of our esp and the fans starting lineup.

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We got a ton of content to peruse and get through.

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Aaron Roderick in the nitty gritty, don't miss that bredon day,

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a little cougar inside of report getting to know the

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foe as well. Kyle super Choke, He's a by U

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offensive lineman that recovered the fumble that Bear Bachmeier was

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unfortunately coughed up, but Kyle was able to recover it

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and b Well ended up winning steel.

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Speaker 1: Kyle was Stella would be more accurate steal it, not

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recover that thing. I was right there, Yeah, you were

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right there. I was also right there. Yeah crazy times.

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Hey all it matters that he came up with the ball,

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that's right. Who knew?

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Speaker 3: Who knows what unfathomable acts he had to perform in

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that pile in order to come out of that LJ

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sound from Aaron Rodgers. Now, bear Bachmeyer had to tote

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the ball twenty two times, and he's been averaging up

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to that point before this last game. I think it

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was around like twelve totes per game. He's a big body,

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six two two thirty two thirty five. He can take

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probably some some beatings and some wear and tear on

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the body, but twenty two seems like a lot. A

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rod isn't sustainable to keep running bear Bachmeyer this much.

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Speaker 7: No, we just had to do it for that one game,

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is uh. That was our weather game plan. Yeah, we

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had two. We had two separate call sheets, one for

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good weather, one for bad weather. And after the rain delay,

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we went to the We went to plan B.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What's interesting is the second and third quarter did not

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There wasn't as many totes from bear Bachmeer, And the

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Speaker 1: Came came to pass.

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Speaker 3: Because I tweeted out, I'm like, up to this point

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in the game, bear Bachmer I felt it like we

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needed to run Bear more in order to win that

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game because LJ was getting pretty high in his in

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his his volume, and I'm like, we got to find

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a one to two punch here, and the easiest thing

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to do is Bear Bachmeyer. Preston I think has potential.

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I just don't think like he's a different type of back.

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Him and Joe Vessa are going to be different types

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of backs. So but we didn't really see Joe Vessa.

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Speaker 1: The week before.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I knew it was Bear Tom, I just didn't

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Speaker 4: The most interesting thing Bear said in his interview was

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when he took the podium and he looked at the

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stat sheeting and goes, wow, twenty two carries. The first

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thing he said, oh wow, holy cow. Yeah he was gassed.

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Holy And I yeah, I'm I'm I really like what

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a Rod said there, because I think there's this no

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show he's in this dry but he can do that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Rod knows he can't be doing that every game.

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It can't be.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's got that big lower body. You think

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he's in this and but then bam, he's broken down.

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Speaker 1: He can't do it.

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Speaker 4: And Bear exclaiming that and just reacting the way he

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did kind of told me, yeah, I'm feeling it. I'm

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feeling every single one of those twenty two carries. He's

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willing to do it. He's willing to do everything he

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can for the team. But nah, you don't want to

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do that moving forward. He got to use that throw

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game and continues to frustrate me. Beyond him the b

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WA he does not have that number two running back.

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They're just not there. You'd think now Wahini could be

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afforded more carries. I don't know. It's kind of weird

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to me that he's not. But man, LJ is absolutely

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the most indispensable person on this entire team, and that

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includes a Bear babber.

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Speaker 1: They cannot lose LJ. He can't slow down. He is

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doing so much right now. Yeah, that's so much.

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Speaker 3: Who's the most valuable football player on By's football team

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right now?

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Speaker 4: It's LJ. I don't think it's even close. I really don't,

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Jack Kelly. I think we saw how valuable he is

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last game and I will listen to that argument for me.

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But for me right now, the guy that goes out

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that you cannot replace because they have pretty good linebackers

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like Ace Cafus can get it done. LJ goes out. Uh,

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who's getting it done? Logan Pain? Maybe I'd give Logan

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a chance. I really like Logan actually, but could.

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Speaker 3: You make an argument for like the offensive line as

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a position group though I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: Uh No, I as far as what I'm talking about

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is just the differential between one and two is so

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vast between LG. Martin and what's behind him that you

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just can't lose what's above him.

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Speaker 1: As Kfusi's pretty good, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's not Jack Kelly, but you can put

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Aston and yeah he can, he can get things done.

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There's a backup safeties, there's a backup offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Obvious line.

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Speaker 4: I think I think the especially if the tackle position

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you might be in trouble.

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Speaker 1: But guard, yeah, pretty good depth there, I.

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Speaker 5: Think for offense since LJ. Martin and then split it

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up the defense. I'll go Jack Kelly. Then you're right, Uh,

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Gurney's right. Ace, the depth linebacker's good but don't play

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Jack Kelly this week.

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Speaker 1: And you let me know how it goes. Yeah, they

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need like they I'm not trying to be rude you.

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Speaker 5: That may work against Arizona, but that's not gonna work

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against the Utah or Iowa State or a Texas Tech

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or a TCU. Like Jack is just as valuable as LJS,

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but on the defensive side of the ball, saw separate

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it and go on offense since LJ defense is Jack

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Kelly because if you don't have Sack Kelly, it was

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tougher for Isaiah at times like you see that, and

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so he had an interception, right, you know, He's still

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a phenomenal player, but Jack being able to spy and

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rush gives you a different element. And they did miss him.

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You did see it. So I'll go Jack on defense.

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I'll go LJ modern offense, and I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 4: I noted in the game. And a lot of people

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have been in frustrated with the opposite. Why are round

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locking and all that? Well, well, guess what they're stacking

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that box and as already stacked the box, and guess

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what happened, Wow, they suddenly have holes. L J can

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run like you did against Portland State. It's it's not

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the offensive line so much as what's been schemed against

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that that offensive line, Arizona had very good cornerbacks. They

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had very good coverages, and Bear saw coverages that he

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hadn't seen before, a lot of holding, grabbing, really good

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prep for Utah. I'm really glad he saw that and

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the receivers saw that, because I think they're gonna be

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that much better taking on Utah having seen that, I

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think youa is gonna go back to stack in the

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box though. I think that's going to be the game plan,

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and and you're gonna be afford more single coverage looks

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than you did against Arizona. Plus, not only Utah's defensive

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backs are as good as Arizones. Man, I'm going on

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a tangent here, aren't I? But anyway, I'm gonna continue.

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But LJ is fantastic. I don't think we can overstate

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just how important he is to this team. And I'm

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really glad that he got his flowers for last game

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because in the offensive line, I thought the offensive line

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was fantastic in that game. The pass pro Andrew Janstrick

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can bust open a line.

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Speaker 1: He can bust some holes.

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Speaker 4: He is really good that right side off tackle and

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Isay is doing okay on that left side, but off

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tackle right, that's where b way he's making it. Say,

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if you notice Lj's runs, it's it's it's off tackle right.

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That's where it's getting done right there. And guess well

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that's gonna be away from John Henry Daily. That's right

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at at Fana, who's pretty good. But yeah, that's that's where,

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that's where it's getting it done. And and yeah, I

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just wanted to point that out because I think the

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offensive line has gotten kind of a bad rub most

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of the season.

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Speaker 1: They were very good against Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting dynamic the tackle versus d ns

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UH in this BYU Utah game.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to win that?

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Jada and Andrew Gentry or John Henry Daily and

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Logan Fano.

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Speaker 1: John Henry Daily alignment versus Isaiah.

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Speaker 4: Jada is the matchup of the game in my opinion,

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big one.

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Speaker 1: That is a big matchup.

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Speaker 3: Getting back to Aaron Rodercks dound here in the Nady

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gritty off as a coordinator, b yu the with ten

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minutes to go in the fourth you ran almost seven

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minutes off the clock on that drive.

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Speaker 1: Was that all part of the play in.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yea, we we you know that we have an analytics

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book that gives us an idea of how many possessions

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are left in the game.

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Speaker 8: We're down two.

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Speaker 7: Scores, and I thought, as a staff and as the players,

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manage that pretty darn well. We left them with eighteen

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seconds left at the end of the game, tied the

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game with eighteen seconds left.

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Speaker 8: It was It was exactly as we planned.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was masterful. A lot of media memories were like, well,

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aren't the hurry up? I thought it was great. It

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was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: What be what he was able to do.

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Speaker 4: It was game management. It was knowing what you got,

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what you can execute. And I think that's what Bears shown.

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I think that's the most impressive thing about him is

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he doesn't get outside of himself. He understands situations, he

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doesn't try to do too much, and you saw that

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exemplified on that final drive. Yeah, and he was fantastic.

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And the way a Rods managed it has been phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And when they that passed to Chase, Roberts said, you know,

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could have been a touchdown, but wasn't. It was a

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big time blessing in disguise that it was not. Because

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there were fifty five seconds left on that clock. Arizona

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can do a lot of things well that afforded that

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much time. So that absolutely worked to be always advantage

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of taking a knee so instead, Yeah, anyway, I phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think you know, from a fear factors standpoint, the

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thought was, you a's offense has moved the ball pretty

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effectively versus ba's defense between you know, the post rain delay,

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and they could pick up a first down and then

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you're gonna have to eat up all your timeouts, right

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and and so in what it was like a two

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and a half two and a half minutes left or

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whatever when they got the ball. And so if they

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they were to pick up a few first downs and

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you're eating up those timeouts, you don't have enough time

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to just get a three and out. That that's the

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fear there. But they ended up getting that. They ended

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up getting in and they only had to use freaking

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one was it one time out?

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was relying on that offensive line. He

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knew that offensive line was getting it done and relying

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on to get him off the field. Yeah, and you know,

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and like not not allowed for first downs, must knowing

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the situation as understanding what your team can do well

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and executing it.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: Going back to the A rods sound. How much do

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you use analytics and your decision making?

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Speaker 7: It guides most of the decisions we make in a

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game as far as strategy. You know, doesn't not every

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play calls, but yeah, I mean, uh and I you know,

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I learned about it first at Utah up the road.

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Speaker 8: With coach Wit.

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Speaker 1: Give him some love to coach with, give me a

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little tip of the cap, or we can't do that.

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Speaker 4: Gotta have the facials and enemy, right, you gotta comport

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yourself petulant week?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're supposed to do in these rivalry games.

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That's that's what Kyle Whittingham does, is that right? You man?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just focusing on us, that's all we're doing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: To me, it's silly, stupid, But I'll comment on Sam

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levittret will you know last.

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Speaker 1: Week that's stupid.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, for those not on Twitter, I looked up

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his press conference and he whackx pretty eloquently and about

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Sam Levitt bere Bob, And he wasn't even.

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Speaker 1: Asked about Sam Levit.

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Speaker 4: He just volunteered it because guess what, that's what coaches

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normally do. And Kyle Winningham's kind of a normal coach,

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but something grabs a hold of that dude when it's

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b yu weak, ah, focusing, awesome, and he's been good

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with it.

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Speaker 1: He knows what motivates his team.

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Speaker 4: It's not about me, it's not about Ben Krutal, it's

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not about Ron we were the third.

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Speaker 1: It's about his team, right. You know, he don't care.

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He doesn't care what we think.

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Speaker 4: He cares about winning that dang game and he believes

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that's the best way to motivate his team. So he

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has a bunch of players that need that pettiness, They

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need that. They can't rise above that, I guess, or

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at least Kyle Whittingham believes that where Kilani shows the

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love because he believes he has a mature team that

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can rise above that and still give their best effort.

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Speaker 1: Two different approaches.

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Speaker 4: But I think where Kyle witting have fails in this

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regard is the outside perception. Recruits are seeing that parents

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of recruits are seeing that, and I think Kilane and

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transfer portal candidates are seeing that. I think one of

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the reasons Keanu A ton of Us is now in

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Royal Blue is I'll be what he comports itself under Klannie,

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probably more so.

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Speaker 1: Than he saw it Utah. I think that's absolutely a

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reason Klannie is winning in at regard.

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Speaker 4: He's embracing what he is the message of the university.

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Speaker 1: We don't want con to be anything different than who

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he is, and he is.

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Speaker 3: You gotta remember, he's an undersized mike linebackers that became

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a whack defensive Player of the Year at BYU and

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talking trash to Steve Young and Jim mcma.

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Speaker 1: And that's who he is.

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Speaker 4: And I don't want this to sound like I'm ripping

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too much on Kyle Whittingham because exactly what you said,

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you play.

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Speaker 1: To your restraint. That's who he is.

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Speaker 4: Bronco can't be Klannie. Klonnie cannot be Bronco, So you

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don't try it. Just is what he is. He knows

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that type of motivation and that's what he exudes, So

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go for it. And he saw a really good initial success,

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initial success being the keyword. I I don't believe Utah

471
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has those in They're very good, right, but I don't

472
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believe that Utah has those pregame advantages that we saw

473
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so many times throughout the Arab independence. I don't think

474
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they're there anymore, I really, But anyway, it is what

475
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it is.

476
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,839
Speaker 1: Again. I went on a massive tangent. Everybody wanted to address.

477
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Speaker 3: That anyway you said regarding the way Ky Whittingham chose

478
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,720
to handle the rivalry this week. I think it's silly

479
00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:12,960
and bit petulant. But it's hardly about me or you,

480
00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:17,400
or Kate w or Kyle Whittingham couldn't care less. It's

481
00:23:17,559 --> 00:23:19,559
entirely about motivating his own team, and he feels that

482
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,920
not addressing anything BA you, let alone even mentioning any

483
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,720
of its players individually, is the best way to help

484
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motivate his team. He knows his team and that is

485
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what he believes works, and his record in doing it

486
00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:34,119
this way has been stellar, at least initially. As you

487
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stay Becaulanie chooses that completely different approach. So follow g

488
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Man on Twitter as he he bestows wisdom to all

489
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of us.

490
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Speaker 4: I got a lot of really stupid comments from fans

491
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,680
under that, oh you did really stupid, Like what if

492
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they say, ja, Man, I don't know, but but but

493
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the worst thing you can do is respond to stupid comments,

494
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so I don't do it.

495
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Speaker 1: But man, there were some spectacularly stupid comments.

496
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Speaker 5: My dad never said stupid comso and this is going

497
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to be a shot. No, I'm sorry if it is.

498
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,640
But but dad says, never stupid comments, stupid people.

499
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Speaker 1: So take that, take that away, how you name, Well,

500
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they were probably stupid people.

501
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Speaker 3: By by the anyway, having been at both schools, A Rod,

502
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how is the preparation different between the two head coaches.

503
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Speaker 7: I don't think there's much of a difference. Both teams

504
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,519
know it's a really important game. It's you know, I

505
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think both teams know it's not just a regular game.

506
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And so yeah, there's not much difference.

507
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Speaker 1: Not much difference. Well, he said about as little as

508
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possible with that response. He's not he's not taking any bait.

509
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Speaker 4: Maybe another coach will take a Rod's exactly the wrong

510
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coach to take bait.

511
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Speaker 1: He don't play that. He does not play that. He

512
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answered that very you imagine.

513
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Speaker 3: You know, like what would he say, like, let's go,

514
00:24:53,519 --> 00:24:55,960
what's the theory on that?

515
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Speaker 5: It's also not as nature you go personality like, that's

516
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not who a Rod is.

517
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Speaker 1: He's never been that. I'll tell you what I've really

518
00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:02,720
liked about Aaron.

519
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Speaker 4: I sawt after the Arizona game, and I saw it

520
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,240
after the Colorado game. That dude got excited. He was

521
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,200
hugging people. I don't know if I share this on her,

522
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,279
but I'm just standing there and I hear like I

523
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:16,720
feel like a side hug and it's Hey, Rod, I'm like,

524
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,599
do you know who? I don't think you do, but

525
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that he was kissing babies. He was excited. He was

526
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just in the grew like I'm excited.

527
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Speaker 1: I got people are.

528
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Speaker 4: Because I was Bear's coming out game. He showed things

529
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that I think ay Ron body had. But seeing that

530
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he was, he was, he was sky high, he was

531
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flye was. It's just really cool to see a guy

532
00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:43,279
like a Rod in that demeanor, is what I'm saying.

533
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Speaker 3: So, I mean he's a call him the bespectacled UH

534
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,799
strategist from the booth, right, That's who he is. He's

535
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:58,920
a film junkie, highly analytical, not overly extroverted in public forums. Uh,

536
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,880
He's always been that guy and so UH to see

537
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:09,559
the elation right, his his you know, jovial nature after win.

538
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:14,519
I think that was contrasting to what some people believe

539
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:16,559
about him. And you know, you want to be you

540
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,880
want to be able to celebrate these moments, these wins

541
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,720
one hundred percent. We all need to do that in

542
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:22,960
all our lives. Yeah, all right, let's go to break.

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Speaker 1: We got to keep that song going.

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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, keep that going because I want g Man

567
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to hear this.

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Speaker 4: This is a great I was kind of digging it

569
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until I heard that wretched voice that reminded me.

570
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Speaker 1: Oh so bad. So are you gonna be shot through

571
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the heart on Saturday? It keeps going one, I have

572
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to do it face.

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Speaker 3: In the post game, Kilani was asked by the onfield reporter, I.

574
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Speaker 4: Can't hear what you're saying. But I can't because when

575
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the music's playing, so we might want to turn that off.

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Speaker 3: Look, g Man Gurney or g Kalani said, they kept

577
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the faith in this game. That's how they won. So

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John bon Jovi is the band of today. Lord, you

579
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gotta keep the faith. You gotta keep the.

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Speaker 1: Faith, g Man.

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Speaker 3: You gotta believe in your team. You gotta believe in

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your squad. You gotta believe in what you're doing. John

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Speaker 1: G Man, I know you're keeping the faith of this

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00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,039
BA football team.

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Speaker 3: Do you think b Yu is going to get a

592
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win versus the Utes uh this weekend?

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Speaker 1: It's really surprising.

594
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Speaker 4: A lot of the BWAU fans I speak with family

595
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:46,079
members otherwise, they they really don't think Bway's gonna win

596
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:50,279
this game. Oh, Utah's just that dominant and all that.

597
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,039
I'm not seeing it. I think I think it's gonna

598
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be a very close game. What gives me pause is

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00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,319
b what you was very fortunate to win last year's game.

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You saw a significant banning that Uti zooted, particularly with

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their defensive line versus Bway's offensive front. I don't believe

602
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Utah's defensive front is quite as good as it was

603
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last year, and I believe the Bwayu's offensive front is better.

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I think it's gonna be able to mitigate a lot

605
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of that. The Way's defense is better. I think it's

606
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bee Way. He's going to have a game plan for

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Devon dam Pier. I think it's gonna be effective, and

608
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I think he's gonna have to throw that football. I

609
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do not see him gashing up and down the field

610
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like he did against Arizona State. I don't believe that's

611
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going to happen. It's what I'm saying is take the under.

612
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It's going to be something. I also think YOUA is

613
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gonna stack that box, are gonna take away LJ. Martin,

614
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and Bear's going to have to when with the arm.

615
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That's going to be what's going That's what this game

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is gonna be. Who's gonna be able to beat the

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opposing team with their arm?

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Speaker 1: Better?

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Speaker 4: Bear Bachmeyer, Devon Daan Pier, and I take Bear Bachmer

620
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every day in that regard. One thing that gives me

621
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pausitive Utah's offensive line is very very good, and Utah

622
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I might be able to run that football effectively, whereas

623
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b Way you might see a deficit in that regard

624
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that could be a thing. But if if they're left

625
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to their own their devices throwing the football. You take

626
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Bear Bachmeyer, Chase Roberts, Parker Kingston, who's look fantastic the

627
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last three weeks, fantastic posts bye week, and we're still

628
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waiting for Cody Hagen to emerge.

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Speaker 1: I still think that's coming.

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Speaker 4: I think Carson Ryan is going to bounce back from

631
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,400
what was a kind of a subpar outing from him

632
00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:32,119
last week. He'll be resurgent. And how about Freshneck. We're

633
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gonna see Freshneck emerge?

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Speaker 1: Yeah'd be interesting. He's there, he's.

635
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Speaker 4: Working out, he got a lot of problem. I don't know. Yeah,

636
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I think Chase Roberts is gonna have a big game.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a bounce back type of game.

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I think he is. I think Chase Roberts going is

639
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going to do things against the University of Utah Autovation.

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That's my prediction. There you go.

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Speaker 3: Would love to see it, ge man, I would love

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I'm three see twenty three to twenty B way you

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I like it? How about how about that? Let's let's

644
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talk with with Aaron Roderick in number five SoundBite? Is

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this game more important to you than any other game.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, it's it's.

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Speaker 7: Just it's important every year because it's it's a huge game.

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I've been involved in it. I think twenty one times.

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I think this is my twenty second time as a

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player coach, and I think I counted today nine or

651
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,480
ten of those came down to the last possession or

652
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the last play, so about half the time.

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Speaker 8: But it's it's a huge game. The whole states into it.

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Speaker 7: I've been following it my whole life, have coached on

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both sides of it, and I always did everything I

656
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could to help my team win.

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Speaker 8: And it's fun.

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Speaker 1: What do you make with that comment?

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Speaker 4: That's a really good answer. He volunteered a lot of

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good stuff there. And it's probably going to come that

661
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,319
last possession comes Saturday. These teams are very very evenly matched,

662
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,599
very evenly. There's no start differences, like all much better

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in that regard. I'm not seen in this statistics aren't seen.

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And I think Bill Conley game came out and Utel's

665
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zero point five points better is all that's. Yeah, it's tired,

666
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,079
it's going to be chippy. It's always chippy, but I

667
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think it might be even ratcheted up. It's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: A The hope, honestly to me, is like, how consistent

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can the fan base be throughout the entirety of the

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offensive possession of the utes. I've said this many times, guys,

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Like communication between the the the offensive line and the quarterbacks.

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It's happening as soon as they're walking onto the football field.

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It's not just when they line up before they snap. Yeah,

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there is a communication pre snap. There's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: You have to be.

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Speaker 3: Consistent as soon as they're on the field, like loud

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and proud, disruptive throughout the higher game. And that's a

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hard thing to do. Like, it can be tiring. It

679
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could be tiring for a fan base. It really can be.

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So you may want to conserve your energy when the

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offense is on the field, for for the b AU

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offense for and wait until the Utah offense.

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Speaker 1: Is on the field.

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Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be a critical thing because we've

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seen it be disruptive in the past. How disruptive can

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the the twelfth man, the roar of the Cougars. We

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all know that the fan base, the student body will

688
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be great. Well, the rest of the fan base be

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is loud, you better create a roucous environment at Lavelle

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on Saturday night. Now, with so much crossover on each staff,

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does the advantage lean one way or the other.

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Speaker 7: It's it's a tricky thing where both both of us

693
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know each other so well.

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Speaker 8: It's it's sort of like, uh.

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Speaker 7: Compare it to like a game seven of an NBA

696
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find an NBA you know, a playoff series where you've just,

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you know, you know each other so well that that

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00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:06,799
last game is just you know, we know that, they

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00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:08,199
know that, we know that they know you know.

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Speaker 8: It's one of those kind of things.

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Speaker 7: It's you can you can now smart yourself sometimes and

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the players just have to go out and make plays

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00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,440
and execute.

704
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wonder like how Morgan and Kyle view their

705
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,199
defensive game plan versus a Rod.

706
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: This is where I think Gary Anderson is so important

707
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:30,079
for this staff. Gary Anderson isn't just someone who coached

708
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:35,360
these guys. He he basically developed all these games. They

709
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:38,599
learned from him. They are acolytes of Gary Anderson. I'm

710
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,480
Kyle Whittingham as well, but sure, but Gary Anderson's a

711
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:43,880
acolyte a Kyle Whittingham, and he's kind of the chief

712
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,639
acolyte and and going on down. So it makes a

713
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:54,159
very very interesting dynamic in that regard. And I think

714
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,159
Gary Anderson is a huge, huge advantage for this team.

715
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,599
And I see I'm guessing he's done a lot of

716
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:01,400
advance work.

717
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,679
Speaker 1: I'm just guessing.

718
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:07,559
Speaker 4: I think Gary Anderson he sees this as a big,

719
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:08,639
big challenge.

720
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:11,599
Speaker 1: He wants to be that guy that disrupts and all that.

721
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,079
Speaker 4: And having him in that move on that staff, I

722
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,800
don't think it can be overstated just how important it is.

723
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,079
And it's I think particularly so in this game against

724
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,719
the University of Utah.

725
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,519
Speaker 3: So BYU scored twenty six and twenty two respectively in

726
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:30,639
the last two games. In order to get the win,

727
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:34,320
they held you taught to seventeen and twenty one points respectively,

728
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,360
right the other the prior to games, now these are

729
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,760
all these are Aaron Roderick games as well, because a

730
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,920
Rod was the passing game coordinator technically right Utah one

731
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,960
in twenty eighteen thirty five to twenty seven, and then

732
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:55,880
BYU lost at home thirty to twelve in twenty nineteen,

733
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,280
so their lowest output in in their worst limitation of

734
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,800
points as well. In twenty nineteen the twenty eighteen game

735
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,679
was the one that Ba was a big at half,

736
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,039
and due to injuries and just getting too probably comfortable,

737
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:14,760
they fell to the utes. That was a tough one.

738
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,239
That was a very tough one. But anyways, going back

739
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,159
to kind of like a Rod versus Morgan, are you

740
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:24,760
more intrigued by a Rod versus Morgan Scalley and Kyle Whittingham,

741
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,440
or you're more intrigued by you know, Jay Hull, Gary Anderson,

742
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:33,400
Kelly Papinka versus Jason Beck and his squad.

743
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 4: I think it's the Jason Beck versus Jay Hill. I

744
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,280
really do, because that might be the big deficit you see.

745
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,840
I think Jason Beck's a quality offensive corner. I think

746
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,000
he's very good. I think he's proven to be very good.

747
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,639
But I wonder about this offense if it's set in

748
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,119
emotion where b way you had to encounter relate in

749
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,559
the game, where it has to make plays and do

750
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,400
stuff and execute, where there's not really any margin for error,

751
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,639
that's what Devin dan Pier in this offense is going

752
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:05,639
to be fraught with, more likely than not, and I

753
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:08,880
haven't seen that yet from this Utah offense, And that

754
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,400
could be an interesting thing. I think maybe the rub

755
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,719
with the Jason Beck offense bringing it from New Mexico

756
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,760
is that it's kind of a bully offense when if

757
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,079
things get going, yeah, they can pour it on and

758
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:24,159
all that. Can it counteract? Can it when something scheme

759
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,960
for it? Because we didn't see that at all against

760
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,840
Texas Tech, that they were done. I mean, I know

761
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,360
David dan Pier was quote unquote heard. I don't know

762
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,000
how hurt he was. They claim he was very hurt.

763
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,519
I don't know, but I just know that Texas Tech

764
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:38,679
did not allow them to do much of anything.

765
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: And I think b Way you had that same capability.

766
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,840
So it's a.

767
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,159
Speaker 4: Big, big game for Jason Beck because I think a

768
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,920
Rod and Morgan Stalley is probably gonna be a wash.

769
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,199
They're both going to be very good and all that.

770
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,960
But I think we're b ware you can have that

771
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,719
significant advantage and maybe overcoming that regardless when you have

772
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,199
Gary Anderson, Kelly pop pinga SCIONI phu wah, all those guys,

773
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,760
Jay Hills certainly scheming against Jason Beck for that first time,

774
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,679
that could be the big advantage.

775
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: B Way, you had a Rod.

776
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 3: What do you recall about the last time This game

777
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,480
was played here at Lavelle Edwards Stadium in twenty twenty one.

778
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:19,639
Speaker 8: Well, I just I just remember Jared Hall. I was really.

779
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,639
Speaker 7: Remember Jaron Hall being a really good leader for our team.

780
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,280
And I remember more just relationships and players than I

781
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,639
do about the you know whatever, how I felt after

782
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:32,360
the game or like that.

783
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,159
Speaker 8: But yeah, that's that's I just remember Jaron Hall.

784
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: Jared Hall. Baby, And who's bear backmer a lot like

785
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,320
like Jared Hall. Yeah, I would say like I would

786
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,920
say bear in.

787
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:48,199
Speaker 3: Jaron stayed within the architecture of the offense more than

788
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,519
any other quarterback under the Grimes A Rod era right

789
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,440
play calling era one hundred percent. And typically when you

790
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,840
stay within the architecture of a Rod's offense, you thrive,

791
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,280
You're a fit.

792
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: Look at Baylor Romney.

793
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 3: Baylor Romney was a really good quarterback under a Ron,

794
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,519
you know, and maybe he could have been great elsewhere,

795
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:09,800
but like he was, he was good. He was good

796
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,440
under a Ron. The only one you can say, hey,

797
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:15,480
not so good. King Slovas struggled a little bit. Jake

798
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:21,360
Redslow you know this, in spite of his poor decision making,

799
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,320
won a lot of football games for BYU or you know,

800
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,079
some people think in spite of of Jake Won, but anyway,

801
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,440
I would say if you stay within the architecture, you

802
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,679
you it bodes well for you.

803
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: At Brigham under a Rod.

804
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 3: A couple of last things here was it was that

805
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:41,119
last touchdown designed to be a fake rollout for Bear.

806
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 8: It's the last touchdown the game.

807
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 7: It's it's a it's a he can throw it or

808
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:47,760
run it in, and so we have a yeah, he

809
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,639
had he had two choices, so.

810
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:53,199
Speaker 3: It's a choice. There's a screen to the field that

811
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,000
he's rolling out to, so you have like a pick

812
00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:59,199
play that can be thrown to h Parker on the

813
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,039
quick out, and we've seen that a lot in the

814
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:05,559
a Rod era. There's also uh maybe like a kind

815
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:08,320
of like a safety valve off to the the other side.

816
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,000
It's rarely, rarely utilized. It's going to the field. It's

817
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,079
either going to be that screen. Typically there's a slant

818
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:16,840
coming across and then he can he can tuck and

819
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,880
run if he sees it and he saw it, saw

820
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,880
the opening, didn't like what he saw on the outskirts.

821
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,440
I mean those you have a go back and watch

822
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,599
that particular play like that could hold it there was

823
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:29,119
a big hole on Parker, like grasping him, tackling him,

824
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:30,039
and the side.

825
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm just like, play on game on It's okay. So

826
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:38,880
these are Mark Harlan approved officials. Well, b what you got?

827
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,559
Speaker 3: They got a timely call right that limited a touchdown too, so.

828
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 5: Or they were waiting to see if he scored. Didn't

829
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,840
throw the flag you know those lad flags. Yeah, it

830
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,800
happens sometimes. I asked a question. I just wanted to know, uh,

831
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,360
what happened on that plane. I feel it's always best,

832
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,599
you know. John Bechtolds just asked the coordinator and Aro.

833
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: Told us, yep, no doubt about it.

834
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: With Bear not having grown up with this rivalry game,

835
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,119
how do you want him to treat this game.

836
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 7: Not just another game? So you can't do that, but

837
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,760
you have to, you know, you have to play the

838
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,079
position with poise, and you have to prepare the same

839
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:13,000
way you do every week.

840
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:15,039
Speaker 8: And I think a big.

841
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,119
Speaker 7: Part of this game is controlling your emotions and just

842
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:20,559
you know, staying within the system. At quarterback, you gotta

843
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:23,320
stay within the system and be ready to execute against

844
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,079
a really good defense.

845
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 4: Bear's mentality is perfect for this game, and the fact

846
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,239
that he's just a freshman. He nothing gets to this guy.

847
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,199
He's I'm not worried about that in any regard. Utah's

848
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,960
going to be coming. They're going to be hitting him

849
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,840
harder than he has all year. I believe that. But

850
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,519
I also believe the Bear can withstand that and maybe

851
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:47,840
even raise his level of play because of it. I

852
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:52,199
like what Bear has upstairs, and I like what that

853
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,920
is in relation to this Utah game where he doesn't

854
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,880
have any history. It's like, oh, it's just a game, yes, Utah.

855
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,840
You kind of want that, right. I think Retslov benefited

856
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,480
because of that. He kind of want that out of

857
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:09,480
state non LDS guide to be your quarterback in this game,

858
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,960
without any history, without any motion.

859
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,559
Speaker 1: Just just level headed to us. So yeah, I'm not

860
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:16,519
worried about that in any regard. I think Bear's gonna

861
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:16,880
be fine.

862
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: What or why was it important for you to get

863
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:26,719
Matt Matt Mitchell back here just a season or so ago.

864
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 7: I just think Matt's a really good coach, and we

865
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,280
had a good working relationship before, and he's he's done

866
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,679
a really good job with our quarterbacks. He does he

867
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,760
does a lot to help me out and help out

868
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,239
our staff. He's an excellent coach.

869
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,199
Speaker 3: Matt Mitchell undersung hero maybe in that coaching within that

870
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,800
coaching staff. A couple of last things here, what's it

871
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,960
like having your freshman quarterback having a learning experience and

872
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:54,039
a comeback win on the road.

873
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean every when you're a freshman six games

874
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,719
in his career, every single game he's having experiences that

875
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,239
are happening for the first time. He's having learning experiences,

876
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,079
and you know, as those experiences a crew, you know,

877
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:12,039
you gain growth and then you know it's it's year two,

878
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:14,920
year three, where veteran quarterbacks go, Yeah, I've seen this before.

879
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,639
I've already been through that. So we're still growing with him,

880
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:20,000
you know. And he had a couple of mistakes the

881
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:24,400
other night. There were things that first time things, you know,

882
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,840
and so what we're trying to do is keep growing

883
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,920
from those things, and there'll be some more things this

884
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,599
game that he hasn't seen before as well.

885
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: Learning through the trials and the airrors of youth, no

886
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,039
doubt about it. And luckily be we found a way

887
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:42,079
to win on the road versus Colorado and U of A.

888
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,559
What do you when you look at those two games

889
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:47,320
on the road, specifically, how did Bill you get those

890
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,679
wins on the road, Like, what do you attribute those

891
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,920
two wins on the road to?

892
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 4: I think just the demeanor and just the resilience to

893
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,280
improve and show your best at the end of the game,

894
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,719
making the proper adjustments to what's being shown relative to

895
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,519
how you started that game. And I think that's a

896
00:44:05,519 --> 00:44:09,320
Barry promising going against a team like Utah, and that's

897
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,559
kind of been the hallmark that Bear's shown, and that's

898
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:13,920
why he's been so successful. As yeah he can be

899
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,440
hitting them out, Yeah it doesn't he's not completing anything,

900
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,800
but he gets better, he learns, he adjusts, and a

901
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,239
Rod deserves at least as.

902
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: Much credit for Bear in that regard. And that's the

903
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,639
hallmark of the team.

904
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 4: And that's why I think a Rod's so giddy and

905
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,719
so happy after these games because he sees a quarterback

906
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,079
that's understanding what he's telling him, and he's probably only

907
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:37,280
telling him one time. He is Barry, you gotta do this,

908
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,719
you gotta do that. Bear's doing it. It's like no,

909
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,679
remember how I told you? Says like no, he just

910
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,039
moves on. He understands concepts, he understands the framework, and

911
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:48,360
it's a really good working dichotomy that I think is

912
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,920
being developed and it's absolutely made relevant in these games.

913
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,079
Speaker 1: How has the offense grown so far? A Rod?

914
00:44:57,159 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 8: I think we're improving every week.

915
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 7: I see I see areas improvement, I see players stepping up.

916
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 8: I think we're a balanced team.

917
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 7: I think you have to you gotta respect the run

918
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:12,480
in the past with us, and.

919
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:12,559
Speaker 8: We're just looking for a little bit of improvement each week.

920
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: Thoughts on that GMT.

921
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 4: Well, it wasn't a lot there, but uh, but they

922
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:22,440
are improving. It's an improved product. I think a lot

923
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,360
of times in the past you see a team max

924
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,599
out and defense is adjust and then and then the

925
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,119
team kind of goes down and you wonder why.

926
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: But you're seeing b way. You get better every single game.

927
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:36,199
Speaker 4: Yet, know the passing game was not as good this

928
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,920
past game, but you check that up to Arizona. They

929
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,280
didn't stack the box and they have really good defensive backs.

930
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:44,119
There you go, that's it, But guess what they were

931
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:46,199
able to al. You had his best game of the year.

932
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,559
So pick your poison. That's what a Rod sees, that's

933
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:51,920
what he likes. So you can beat you in a

934
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:55,360
multitude of different ways. You love that as an offensive coordinator.

935
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:57,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good breakdown.

936
00:45:57,079 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: Have you ever coached a young guy who's able to

937
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,800
bounce back from mistakes as quickly as Bear has?

938
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 7: No, he's pretty mature kid. Yeah, first for a young guy.

939
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:11,519
I'm impressed with how I'm not bothered he is by

940
00:46:11,559 --> 00:46:15,639
any situation and how easily he bounces back from a mistake.

941
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, it doesn't bother him.

942
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 4: I gave the comparison that Peter Gibbons from Opfice Space

943
00:46:21,559 --> 00:46:25,159
was like Will Farron. I still hold to that, but

944
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,480
maybe applying it to Bear would be a better application, right,

945
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:35,199
becauseparts just yeah, yeah, whatever, cracking jokes is nothing bothers him,

946
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:39,039
just keeps on going. His mentality is phenomenal. It is

947
00:46:39,079 --> 00:46:41,400
absolutely phenomenal. And I want to point this out. I

948
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,039
wonder what it would be if Tiger wasn't there. I

949
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:47,880
think having Tiger the older brother, I wanted to ask

950
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,840
this last interview, but it really wasn't the scenario for that.

951
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,639
But I want to ask just how the conversations and

952
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,559
just how Tiger's been guiding this kid and just having there,

953
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:01,039
that's gotta be a thing that's got to be helping

954
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,400
a lot Tiger's interviewing him. He's just a phenomenal human being, right,

955
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:08,920
and I have to believe having him in this BWAU

956
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,119
program has helped quite a bit.

957
00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 5: Speaking of Tiger, Jimil, we don't gamble on this airways,

958
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,039
but I would like a Twitter shout out because I

959
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:22,719
think Tiger is gonna get into the end zone in

960
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,800
this first touchdown of the season.

961
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,039
Speaker 1: We make that declaration.

962
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 5: Wow, there seems to be brothers that like to score

963
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,039
touchdowns in this rivalry. So something tells me I festin

964
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:34,519
a Rod might have something drawn up. I think that's

965
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:36,280
a little hanging through Ben, but I think it's on

966
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:36,719
the table.

967
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: Let's go back Meyer to Bachmeyer connection. Would love to

968
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,239
see it under the lights of Levell.

969
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 4: But but what did a say? He didn't even has say.

970
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,400
He says, no, I've never had a quarbet that learns

971
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:46,639
from this.

972
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I.

973
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,599
Speaker 5: Asked a question because Jaron Hall. But Jaron Hall was older,

974
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,519
served dimission mature. Even Zach was a little bit older,

975
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:55,119
like he's eighteen doing this. That's why I was like, Hey,

976
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:56,679
I got asked this, Hey you tell me and not

977
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,719
on like you said.

978
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: Well, hopefully he doesn't have any turnovers into Utah game.

979
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,679
When BAU has won this game last few times, they

980
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:08,000
have not coughed up the football, So you don't want that, obviously,

981
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,440
But how do you prevent turnovers from showing up in

982
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:10,960
this game?

983
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: Aron super important?

984
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 7: You're right because a week ago I was standing here saying,

985
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,360
you know, we're not going to freak out about that yet,

986
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,159
but two games in a row, that's that's the problem,

987
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:20,800
and so we have to nip that in the bud. Now,

988
00:48:21,199 --> 00:48:25,760
turnover margin will probably be the one of the maybe

989
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,880
the probably be the deciding factor in this game. You

990
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,000
know it'll be, if not the deciding factor, it will.

991
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: Be up there.

992
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 8: It's it's super super important. In every game.

993
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 7: We have to take care of the football. And I'm

994
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,400
sure they're trying to do the same thing. And both

995
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,760
defenses are trying to get takeaways and that's the name

996
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:39,159
of the game.

997
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 5: I'll make this quick because we got to go to

998
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,840
break Ben. But his body language when he was saying

999
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,719
that he had his notebook in his hand, he was

1000
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,840
like this, He's like it is super important, Like he

1001
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,840
does not like that it happened two weeks in a row.

1002
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:57,199
Speaker 3: Poor dravesa he's got a little bit more grace for

1003
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,039
like quarterbacks. He just does. He's got more grace for him. Yeah,

1004
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:02,679
he does.

1005
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: It's fine.

1006
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:08,079
Speaker 4: Those two interceptions threw against Arizona really bothered they did.

1007
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:14,199
They bothered you because they just weren't the first they

1008
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:17,760
were really forced errors. Right, He's just he's just locking

1009
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,000
down on Parker, just not looking anywhere else. Ball he

1010
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:24,679
threw on the Yeah. Yeah, then the other one. You

1011
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,880
just never do that ever. But you know what I

1012
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,239
know about Bear Bommeyer, He's never gonna do it again ever.

1013
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,679
We're not gonna see it ever again. I'm gonna say that,

1014
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,559
you will never see Barry Brockmeyer for the rest of

1015
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:38,880
his career throw against his body running back on the run.

1016
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,000
That's never going to happen again. You saw that one time.

1017
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,800
It was onerous, it was it was very uncalled for.

1018
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,280
But Bear Bachmeyer, what I know about that kid, You

1019
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,639
will never see that type of throw ever again from him.

1020
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: Interesting, I'm saying staying that right here.

1021
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 4: Bear don't let me down, buddy. I'm not even scared

1022
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,360
of that. You will never see Bear that ever again. First,

1023
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:03,960
one got to give the safety, that's their NFL safety. First,

1024
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,719
and he made a good play. If he doesn't turn around,

1025
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,320
the ball hits him in the back and well, yeah,

1026
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,039
he did a great job recovering and all that.

1027
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:12,079
Speaker 1: But no, you don't. I don't know the second one. Yeah,

1028
00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:14,599
first one. Now, both of them were bad.

1029
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 3: Last couple sound bites here a Rod, What do you

1030
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,079
like about what Preston Rex showed you last week?

1031
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 7: He was not you know, the moment wasn't too big

1032
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,320
for him. He went out and did what we expected

1033
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,199
him to do. He did did what he's been doing

1034
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,639
in practice, and you know, we're gonna keep bringing him

1035
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:34,159
along and getting him more and more involved, especially with

1036
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:35,039
being out.

1037
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:41,679
Speaker 4: Can can he be that Poke hwenga type to that offense?

1038
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,119
Everyone wondered why I was freaking out about Poke? How

1039
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,960
I'm gun It's dynamic. It's a different look that you

1040
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:49,559
bring to that backfield where you can be a receiver

1041
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,079
hybrid type that can scat, can go around and all

1042
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:54,000
that Poke was perfect for that.

1043
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: And maybe Preston Rex can be that guy.

1044
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,639
Speaker 4: I don't know. I want to promote Logan Pain. I

1045
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:04,320
I'm driving that pain. Logan Pain is going to be

1046
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,639
Matt Hadley.

1047
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: That's man.

1048
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:08,639
Speaker 4: I've given hot takes right here, right now. Logan Pain,

1049
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,800
I am in on that dude. Get that guy in

1050
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,840
that backfield. I think he can do things. Everyone's looking

1051
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,280
for that running back. It hasn't been Joe Vessa. It

1052
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,800
hasn't been eating the only moment. May never play football game.

1053
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,679
Let's just be honest there, Preston Rex kind of one dynamic.

1054
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,000
He's not taking it between the tackles. Guess who can

1055
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,480
Logan Pain. I'm I'm driving that band where you guys

1056
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,920
can hop on if you want to. Logan Pain needs

1057
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,599
to be the guy. Give him some May him be

1058
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,920
that guy. I believe in this kid.

1059
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: So Logan Pain in high school led to six A

1060
00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:43,760
and Utah and Russia after ninety one carries on for

1061
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,079
ninety yards and sixteen touchdowns at we were high school.

1062
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,760
He comes from a legacy family where toughness and grit

1063
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,360
and competitive nature thrives his uh. His father, Matt Payne,

1064
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,000
one of the greatest punters to come through Brigham and

1065
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,639
he was seeing reps in fall camp or an injury

1066
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,400
he sustained to Lord ttremity injury. We have a lot

1067
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,000
of different injuries that have occurred during fall camp or

1068
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:09,000
even prior to fall camp, and I would like to

1069
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,960
see Logan get an opportunity, no doubt.

1070
00:52:11,039 --> 00:52:14,039
Speaker 4: I'm guessing the one deficit he has is the common one.

1071
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,280
He can't trust him quite yet in pass pro. That

1072
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,480
might be what's keeping him off the field.

1073
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:20,119
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1074
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 4: It's pretty tough though, but I want to see that

1075
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,199
Logan pain bring the paint, baby. I think he can

1076
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,440
do it. Confidence in that kid. He's going to be

1077
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,480
Matt Hadley two point zero. I'm telling you, I would

1078
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:30,079
love to see it.

1079
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,639
Speaker 3: Final thing, how would you evaluate the offensive line play

1080
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:33,000
thus far?

1081
00:52:33,039 --> 00:52:35,039
Speaker 1: A rod A good job.

1082
00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 8: I thought they played well last game.

1083
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,079
Speaker 7: We ran the ball well against a really tough defense

1084
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:42,599
that I think the most rushing yards they've given up

1085
00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:46,239
was like one hundred and eleven, and then we had

1086
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,679
no sacks. So they did a good job in that game.

1087
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,239
A whole new challenge this week, and these.

1088
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:52,599
Speaker 8: Guys are good.

1089
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 7: This is a really tough defense and everybody has a

1090
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:56,639
lot to prove in this game.

1091
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: Got a lot to prove. Still.

1092
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 3: That's are kind of a reading between the line segment.

1093
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,599
Little question poll today as well. Chime in on some

1094
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:07,599
of my questions and polls. By the way, Cougar Nation

1095
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:10,679
want to hear from you. Hit me up a couple

1096
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:14,599
of things. I've posed Which OCDC battle you're most intrigued

1097
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:18,679
by and why Jay Hill versus Jason Beck, Aaron Roderick

1098
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:19,760
versus Morgan.

1099
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: Scaley chime in on that one.

1100
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,119
Speaker 3: And also who's been the MVP of the offense who's

1101
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:27,039
been the MVP of the defense through six.

1102
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: Games thus far this season.

1103
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1112
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