Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka colored a podcast from the Mac
of All Trade studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dots jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on,
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the
word about the pirate Ship. I am so excited today
because sitting in the studio, I think for the first
time in this studio.
Speaker 3: Second time.
Speaker 2: Okay, you have been here before.
Speaker 3: I remember here with David Brody.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I do remember that. Yep, Okay, that's what
I thought. It is racing Randy, you know Randy. As
I was coming over today, I've been getting up early,
and I was like, wow, I got a lot done.
I made protein muffins this morning. I had put together
another podcast for that'll drop later today. I folded laundry
and then I discovered I don't know where my head
was yesterday. But I wish this wasn't me who did this,
because then I could really bitch about it. But I
can't because it's my fault, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: So I had I was running around yesterday running all
these errands. You had my kid with me. Come home
and I'm like, let me throw in some whites. So
I do the whites, and then I go, well, let
me get some other things done too, so I'm not
stop backing up on me. And I'm like, I should
even wash the pants I have on. So I put
on some sweatpants and I take the pants off, and
I'm in such a like just go mode that I
don't even I didn't even take the belt out of
the pants, so I throw them in. I would go
to put everything in the dryer, and I go, shit,
I left belt, so I let the belt air dry.
Take that out. Put everything in today. I go because
I you know, I got late last night, and I'm like,
I'll just fold it tomorrow. So hey, go to take
it out of the dryer. I had a pen in
my pocket. Oh the pen melted, and now it's all
over the dryer like it looks like spin art inside
the dryer and on some of the clothes there's ink
like jeans stuff all just covered an ink like fuck.
So now I don't know if I have what I'm
gonna do about the dryer. So I went in there
with with alcohol and you know, not whiskey, just the
rubbing alcohol. And I was like trying to rub it
out and some of it came out, but not all
of it. And then I'm like, I better just let
this air dry because if I turn on the dryer
there's a chance it'll fucking catch fire because I had
the alcohol in there. So I like, let that fucking
air dry out. Let's see what happens. And I go,
but is this ink going to continue to melt in there?
Or is it now like just part of the dryer.
It's just a speckled dryer. And that's fine. I just
don't want to getting on all the clothes. That's my thing.
Speaker 3: I've done that before. I've left Penn's and huh, I
got lucky. They came out in the washer and I
found him before putting them in the driver. Yeah, well
I didn't.
Speaker 2: I did, not, fucking fucking buddy.
Speaker 3: Yeah it does.
Speaker 2: Racing Randy is a guy I've known for a number
of years. Met him through the radio when I was
on w CMF. Randy is a NASCAR enthusiast and he
even brought this for our studio that we will proudly
display you can get all kinds of stuff up.
Speaker 3: I gotta say that's brand new, never been hung. That's
a promo from the company, and uh, it's it's got
to be the minimum nineteen ninety four and ninety five
when that's.
Speaker 2: From who whose car was it?
Speaker 3: Hutch Strickland drove it first, that Jimmy Spencer was the
one who's really known for driving it. Okay, but hutch
Drickland and I have both die camps up, Hutch Jockland
and Jimmy Spetrick.
Speaker 2: You do you know I had yet? Yes, So we
met Randy because we were on CMF. Wes had left.
It was me and Tommy and I think everybody was
still there.
Speaker 3: No Christian Dan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there was a bunch of people. Yeah.
I think they were all.
Speaker 3: Phil Billailly, philil Billy, Sally.
Speaker 2: And so Tommy starts making fun of a couple that
got that were engaged and they went to a toy
show at the Village Gate mall. Yes, and this guy
was interviewed by the paper and Tommy He's like, what
a loser man? How could this guy get engaged? I
can't even get laid and this guy get laid that
at that, and so he goes if you collect or whatever,
and Randy calls up to defend collecting, and then I say,
I want to come out and see this and video it.
And we went out to Race and Randy's house and
it just became a thing, and we had Randy on
regularly on the radio. When I left CMF, Randy came
over to radio ninety five to one for a while
and then the podcast sporadically, and that's how it all
kind of began. But how much money do you have
invested in die cast?
Speaker 3: If I had to, if I had to get like,
if you could value it, well, what it's valued now,
it's not very shit. I'd be lucky. Truthfully, what even
all the stuff I got, Yeah, nobody will pay nothing
for it. I'd be lucky if I could get lucky.
If I could get five to eight grand for it,
and I probably got close to fifty to sixty invested. Wow,
But that's collecting from nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2: Why why the disparity in the investment versus the value
just drip?
Speaker 3: Everything's dropped like baseball cards. They took a hit. I
remember they were I mean, I remember paying twenty five
hours for a baseball card. Ooh, this is great, it's
gonna go up. And next thing I know, it went
down to five dollars and now I was down to
a buck. And you know, some cards are coming back.
But racing is not the same as it used to be.
And the worst part about it is die Cast. Now,
when I was buying die Cast the top of the
Line back in nineteen ninety five, brand new in the package,
thirty eight bucks, thirty eight dollars, the top of the line. Yeah,
Now top of the lines are one hundred and twenty five,
one hundred and forty dollars sometimes more.
Speaker 2: Why is that? If the value is in there.
Speaker 3: It's just that the companies have changed. There used to
be Action and it was Motorsports Authentics, then it was
somebody else and now Linel Trains that own them. For
like the last five to ten years, Linel Trains has
owned them. Okay, I mean, and they're all upscared and
you can buy a cheaper version. Yeah, I mean you can't.
Speaker 2: They very rarely.
Speaker 3: You see them in the like Walmart. Back when Racing
Champions was around and there was winter circles around, you
could buy them in Walmarts. You don't see that anymore.
In twenty four scale cars they're gone. So now you
still buy the little ones. Yeah, still buy sixty four
scale cars, but the big ones are gone, you know.
And it's just crazy how it all changed. And like,
I've got cars. I mean I was back then. I
was buying what was forty five bucks by I'm buying
I'm buying it. I'm buying it. I have bought cars
since then. True story. There was drags. I have some drags.
Was at home that when they came out in nineteen
ninety five there were thirty eight dollars and they were
so rare they skyrocketed three fifty four hundred and five
one with six hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Why didn't you part with him? Then?
Speaker 3: I didn't have them? Oh I couldn't afford the prices. Yeah, yeah,
I got them. Yeah. I have bought all those drags
or within the last five years and not paid over
twenty seven dollars for them.
Speaker 2: Okay, And do you think they'll go up again?
Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't care. I bought them because
I wanted them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what because you are? I would say, I was
going to say a NASCAR enthusiast. But but I'll say this,
I think you're a race enthusiast, maybe a motor sports enthusiast. Uh,
you go to all the dirt track in Canandaigua. You're
a big supporter of the local guys to your race,
and Randy is sponsored.
Speaker 3: On cars right to me bored and Nick Cooper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and then you're you love drag racing yep.
Speaker 3: As you know, I helped run Sealth Butler drag right. Yeah,
there's my number one thing. This is my use of
Sunday Morning, Welcome to self, Butler here on August twenty eight,
twenty twenty five. That's when my call, that's my first call.
I'm helping everybody. Now. I used to do that about
a thirty quarter to nine talking and Mike and he
love that stuff though, Oh I love it. I mean
it goes crazy now. And since I've got Tracy involved
the last two years, it's even better.
Speaker 2: Than Tracy's your wife. What's the uh what what's better?
Does dirt beat asphalt in terms of racing?
Speaker 3: Well, you know what kind of does to me because
I couldn't go to them.
Speaker 2: Yes, ah, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 3: So it's fun and I got I know a lot
of the drivers of Justin Harris, Matt Williamson has been
the track champion there. Justin's the three time chief of CANDEGO,
Darryl Ruggles, who you mean you both know, his daughter Alisha,
Mike Minutlow, Blaine Smith, uh all kind of just Peter Britton, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know and gil Ted guy with the broke headed,
broke his neck, who got hurt the first first race
this year, got hurt real bad. You know, it's nice
to be you can talk to them guys to see
what's going on.
Speaker 2: Right, you know, talk, Well, you going to the pits
and they all bring some of these guys bring a spread.
The Phelps cement guys bring a whole spread. Randy's over, Hey,
you gotta come over here, tryna buddy, rubbers put out
of spread. Yeah, they do. And Randy go and is
invited to all of them. He goes and dines nicely.
Speaker 3: We just to let you know. Remember Alex Payne we
first a sixteen year old kid. Yeah, he just won
a big race down in Charlotte yesterday. I think it
was yes modified, not big modified, had the dirt track
in Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, Kid's on his way, Yes he is.
And the kid is on his way.
Speaker 3: They call him the slide Job Express.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite NASCAR memory? Do you have a favorite
nat because I know, like you have gone to a
couple different tracks and think you've been to Bristol.
Speaker 3: No, I've never been to Bristol.
Speaker 2: You've been to New Hampshire. Been to New Hampshire that
was okay, you weren't in the Poconos Pocono's and then
Watkins Glenn on the regular bit.
Speaker 3: And Dover and then Richmond I've been to. I mean,
the stories from Watkins Glenn back in the nineties are crazy.
And I told you before, but probably my proudest moment
is because I wanted to do this for my wife.
Tracy was two years ago. We got to be real
friends with the people that run Kyle Busch's trailer. We
got to talk to him. We talked to him the
year before before he had left Joe Gibbs and he
said he's gonna go somewhere, but he wasn't quite sure.
Then we signed with Richard JODI's Racing. So we go
back and the guy actually remember him and his wife
remembers us. We got Betsy.
Speaker 2: That was Betsy.
Speaker 3: God, what's his name? God, I can't remember. We've got
to be friends. They know U when we come to walk,
they know us. All the tracks they go to all
over the country. The remember us. So we got talking
to him, and then he says to me on on
Friday morning, Hey, Kyle's going to be signing autographs on
Sunday morning for I think it. It's like ten thirty
eleven o'clock for an hour. You're gonna have to get
in line. You gotta get this band, Okay, he says.
When we did it at Lanta, the first one, there
was people at twelve thirty in the morning in line.
No ship to get a band?
Speaker 2: Really, how do where is this release? The information?
Speaker 3: Well, this will come, this comes out. I'm getting to
so and he says, but don't say nothing because Kyle's
supposed to release it Saturday morning on his Instagram.
Speaker 2: It'll explode, right.
Speaker 3: So we go over to So we go this is Thursday.
We go see him Friday. God, damn, Kyle freaking said
something on his Instagram. Now, So Kyle let it out early,
so you know, and I'm talking to him in me
andwhile me and trace you're buying. So we spent oh,
Bobby eleven hundred bucks on his trailer that year. I
kid you not. We had spend one hundred bucks, but
you had to buy fifty bucks with the stuff that day,
so we trace. You're talking about it. I said, well,
I'm going to get up early and go. Shea's what
time going to get up? I said, well, I'm not
going at twelve thirty. Ain't gonna happen. So we go
to bed Friday. I go to bed Saturday night. Okay,
I go to bed ten o'clock. Toss, turn, toss, turn.
I know. I got to get up, and finally ten
after two, it said I'm done. Get. I got up,
I got dressed, gave her a kiss, and away I
go with my chair, my sweatshirt and the bottle of water,
and I go walking up through all these people. We're
still just comming home to go to bed. Get even
going to bedget and walking through the campsites and all
that stuff. And I'm laughing. And I get up there
and I'm the only one standing there. Okay, at two
forty five in the morning, I'm the only person there.
So I'm looking around and said, that's okay, and you
still watch people down drunk fall down, and what didn't
fall down, well about about fifty one hundred feet. Awave
me somewhere. It's a bathroom and it was nice when
I went up there, really nice. Started to get cold
in the morning. It's a guy than I got a
sweatshirt on it, and I'm kind of getting a little
so I'm going into the bathroom and they got the
heaters you push on, and I got my shirt like this,
and I'm gonna heat down on my shirt. I've done
that with four or five times. Nobody else showed up
until six thirty to show up there, and the kid
showed up with a bike. He said, you're the first one.
I said, yeah, how long you've been here? I say
it's two forty five. He says wow, yeah. So then
we're standing in a couple more guys. It was like
four of us standard. Also, there comes this lady around
from the backside of the trailer. This is like seven
point thirty. She goes, you guys in line. Yeah, I'm first. Oh,
I'm on the wrong side of the trailer. I thought
it was over there, but she didn't get there untill
like seven o'clock. She was standing over there at seven.
Speaker 2: O'clock on the other side.
Speaker 3: I said, she was on the wrong side. But it
says okay, he said, you're fifth in line. That ain't bad.
She goes, what times you can and I tell you,
and she goes, God, my husband wouldn't do that for me.
He would even do it with giving away cash. So
I'm standing there, you know. And then we're talking and
then uh, Tracy texted me a quarter after seven. She goes,
how many people are there? I said, no, right now,
there's about ten. I said, nobody got her. At six thirty.
She goes, would you like some coffee? As I would
love some coffee? And bring me my hood has sweatshirt
out of the truck ause I'm freezing. So she comes
up there, gets there about seven thirty and we're talking,
and there's a while. The line has gotten down if
they partly. They're going Parler trail and they go back
around behind the trail and I'm staying. I said, hey,
you guys, mind if I let her sneak in, we
don't care. We're in line, we don't get care. So
she pops in line and made her go first, so
we got to be the first two. Meanwhile, we're standing there.
Here comes to people that run the trailer. They're laughing
if they see us standing there. First, then these guys
from NASCAR and then from RCR there and they interviewed me. Okay,
they find out I was there at two forty five
in the morning. Yeah, And he said, how about that?
I said, well, I did this for my wife. She
wants to meet Kyle Busch and she just get all
the grabbed. I said, at least we're gonna get all get.
Speaker 2: Her fantasy, right, I want her fantasy man. She dream
about him Randy at night.
Speaker 3: He used to be Casey Kanes. He's retired now, so,
but she wanted me, and she's always loved Kyle, and
Kyle was great. So you know, they're interviewing me stuff
and I the guy. The reps were really cool. They
were funny. Would hit him laughing, and Tracy goes, yeah,
it's all him. He can he's the talker. So we
go up, get the bands and I give Tracy my
credit card. Whatever, get what you want. She buys the
jacket she wants. I gotta buy something, give me two
of those sweatsress. We spent a couple hundred bucks right there. Yeah,
we get two bands and we go back to the
camper and I crash on the camper and I just
want sleep to all I want to do. And we
got to get up. You gotta get up at nine
thirty to get in line, at ten thirty to get
in the thing. Tracy's father call it nine thirty, calls
at eight thirty in the morning, wakes me up, end
up talking him for a while. Forget that. I'm also
just stay up. So we got to be nine thirty
and I did change from then in the short stuck
as it started to warm up. So we go up
and line and we get up there and all the
people around wis about halfway back. So we're just standing
there like it's no big deal, you know, and due
the guy comes around. Make sure you have your stuff
because you don't have to take it out. So Kyle said,
wait for you to take it, just sign it. Yeah. Well,
I had bought this helmet, the three chi helmet, which
I don't really care about three chi, but it was
the only helmet they had. And Tracy had to the
guy who runs the trays, said, Kyle's got to sign
his first win our shair is California. He's likes this.
He likes people to get those signs. He signs up.
So Tracy brought that with her. So we're standing in
the line, no big deal. All of a sudden, this
guy comes walking, Hey, where's my two forty five? And
I go like this. She because you and your wife
come here and follow me. I said, okay, what's going on?
Says Kyle wants to meet you. Mail Kyle had come in.
We saw him come in with his on the ride
up in the trailer. He says, Kyle wants to meet you.
He said, I can't believe. He couln't believe you were
here a two forty five in the morning. Said I
got a timestamp picture. But when I took it if
he wanted to see what time I got there. And
we went up and he was the nicest guy. He
couldn't believe, and I said he I said, Kyle, I
did this for her. I said, she wanted to meet you,
and I had to make it happen. I didn't. We
didn't expect to get on the trail.
Speaker 2: We're just good autographed. You're like a cuckhole there. I'm kidding.
Randy I know that's a uh man.
Speaker 3: That that that's a hell of a story there to be,
you know, but I wanted to make sure trades to
me and well, look, you know what we didn't.
Speaker 2: Every man should be doing something like that for his lady,
right right, you know, just out of love and respect.
Speaker 3: We went back this year and he was signing, but
he wasn't gonna do like he did. Him and his
son were gonna be signing on the trailer. Yeah, of course,
pile biggyd buy one hundred bucks for the stuff. We
didn't spend four hundred bucks. So I got four bands,
So I gave a couple of a cap a couple away,
and we've got to do and got some stuff signed.
Speaker 2: Is there a driver you still yell at the TV
for as well?
Speaker 3: Anybody was driving a forty who immunally for I have
a three time champion Joey loganal that Tracey bought me,
and I'm Ryan Blaney and Penske Racing. Uh those are
my two biggest guys that I would follow, But then
Kyle Bush is really big too. I mean those I
can't rank them guys good. They're all because Kyle has
been so good to US and you know, and watching
him go from Joe Gibbs racis they couldn't get any
sponsorship for him, and he goes to RCR next to
you know, a guy made sixteen point nine million dollars
can't get no sponsorship.
Speaker 2: That was wrong, we you guys.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what happened. I think Joe Gibbs
want just get Kyle Loo get his grants on Tie
in Earth. Ah okay, but how can you? I mean,
the guy's most market little guy on NASCAR, He really is, so.
But I still pulled it mostly Ford guys, but I
was disappointed the last racer here. I could care less
there was no Ford guy in it. But yeah, I
had a favorite. I wanted Chase Briscoe to win. I didn't.
I don't care for Denny Hamlin, but I kind of
look to see him because he's like Mark Martin, the
two best drivers that may never win a championship, be close,
but never win it, right, you know, So it kind
of would have been a good feeling story for him
to win it. And I understand that.
Speaker 2: Sure, you're a mechanic as well by by trade, Yes, yeah,
so you I mean cars are really just your life.
What's the wildest kind of mechanics story you have? And
if it involves beer and duct tape, even better.
Speaker 3: Well, the best story I can tell you is when
I worked at cherroll Ford back in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2: Okay, going back forty something years. Oh yeah, I worked
there forty years.
Speaker 3: Me and my buddy Dale Emily, who was a jokeser
in Rest in Peace Missie a lot. He was always
the jokester and whatever we used to go and I
worked up it was up in East Rochester for a
part area and up there where Van Bordil is now.
That was in the old building. It wasn't a new building,
it was the old building. It used to be have volkswagons.
They weren't really made to pick up pickup trucks and
he used to drop pickup trucks and bend drive shafts
all the time on them up there. But we're so
it was one day it was hot, Muggy was on
a Friday. We got paid on Thursday. But Friday, well
we go to this place street called Brandies I think
it was in theast Rochester. It was called Brandy's and
we would go there for lunch. Well, we decided to
leave for lunch at eleven thirty for some reason, just
the way mood I was in. Let's have a liquid lunch. Yeah,
so we had a liquid lunch. Damn well we got
back a quarter after one. Yeah. They handed me a
pickup truck. I'm half inee braided. I mean, I'm in.
I don't want to do this, So I get a
pickup trucks. Got a noise in driving, so I go
for Rye with it down marsh Road. I hear it.
I come back and I was way down at the
end on the lift. It was all these technico I
mean a huge shop. Yeah. I was all the way
in on the corner, far corner. Couldn't even see me. Yeah,
So I pulled it in. I knew it was the noise,
and I said, I'm not gonna put some of my creeper.
And I came over to the creeper and I find
it there.
Speaker 2: Going creeper is the thing that they on that you
can go underneath Scott Wheels. Usually Wooden has a little pillow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little pillow. So I get underneath it and
I'm fighting up the shield. The bolts were losing his shield.
I tighten them up and I know that's the noise.
Speaker 2: I go back down.
Speaker 3: I'm just checking a couple of them there and says, God,
it's nice and cool down here, because there was a
little warm that day. So I put my arms around
a drive. Shit, I fell asleep. I slept all afternoon.
My buddy Dale comes by a ten minutes if I
kicks me, kicks my feet and says, hey, you're going
to get up go home today? That said, what time?
It is? Just ten minutes to five? Oh shit, I've
been sleeping all afternoon, So I get out. I gotta
write a story. I wrote a story. I had to
pull the transmission out that that that I got paid
eight hours, slept all afternoon, and I that's the last
time I drank at work.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, and I get it right, because
you know what, that's very very very funny. Kids. Are
they going? Are there mechanics still coming up today?
Speaker 3: Buddy?
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, can they fix things? Here's I'll ask.
And I'm sorry to interrupt, but from what I understand,
new cars now are designed and then the engineers are
told fit the engine in this space. So it's like
they build the car first and then to fit the
engine in, so things aren't like they're not. It's it's
not like your old cars that you can work on
in your driveway. And a lot of it's computerized now
and so you have to have I mean, I think
you've gone for recertification on a lot of things and stuff.
So I go, boy, that that is something. And I
don't know if AI will somehow fix take over to
these things, but I go, I also don't know that
young people really interested in doing it. I'm hearing about
less people, less kids, you know, rushing to get their
license at sixteen, and YouTube is where they'll go to
learn something. And if they can fix it, okay, no
big deal.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, there's a big thing. I mean
the CEO of Ford there, I think it's Jim Farley
that this guy's name is. He said, you know, there
is a big drop in technicians. There's a huge drop
in theres. I mean, I'm sixty five, yeah, and I'm
done working on cars. I hate working on cars. I
don't hate it, but I don't can't stand it anymore.
If you can see the arth threat, I got a
picture of arthritis in my hands. If you can see
what the art the picture when they took a picture
of my hands for something. The arthritis in my hands?
Is it? I have a hard time. I get up
in the morning, I can't move right away. I gotta
do this. I've had knee surgeries, torn both my rotator
cups about clean off. Yeah, how bad is that? Not
going in for surgery here sometime soon? When I got
a hernia. I just got another hernia that I'm gonna
have to go get fixed. It's just you see younger
kids coming in, but whether they're gonna stay or not,
I don't know. You really gotta have a passion for
this stuff. You really do. Because if my grandson wants
to do it, he does, and I don't know if
he's gonna make it or not. And I told him
if I was you, I would do something else. Wow,
I mean, unless you really got the patient bill.
Speaker 2: It's like this.
Speaker 3: You want to be a technician. Great, you gotta buy
a toolbox. You gotta buy tools. You're gonna spend twenty
grand your first year, yeah, you know, and you gotta
buy all that stuff and even going to Harbor Freight.
Still you have to buy all this stuff. It's not
like you know, you commit that up.
Speaker 2: And adds up and then depending on the quality of
the stuff, it can break.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: This is where I always feel bad when I hear
a guy who may be a mechanic, maybe handyman whatever,
has their tools taken. Oh yeah, I hate that. I
hate hearing that because somebody's gonna go and pawn it
somewhere and you know, get money. But it really sets
these guys then that is their livelihood and they are
really independent contractors.
Speaker 3: A lot of these guys. Yeah, if you work flat ray,
you're pretty much an independent contractor. What you get paid
is what you know, whatever job page it page as much,
they paid as much to do it. And I feel bad,
especially guys like the construction They get their stuff stolen out,
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And it's thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2: Thousands of dollars and it holds projects up and it's
it's just it's shitty and it's it's tough. But uh yeah,
it's interesting to me because I was thinking about that.
I go, boy, it's harder, right, it's harder to work
on cars.
Speaker 3: It's much harder. I mean, I'm sixty five and there's
stuff for me t I still get me the stuff
under freaking dashes, you know, and I can't. I don't
move like I used to. I still can move, but
I don't move like I used to. And I have
a hard time grabing on stuff sometimes and holding it sometimes. Yeah.
But it's forty eight years of me doing this, forty
eight years because I was in high school. Wow, it's
and cars, yeah you know? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, uh, not only that, though, Randy isn't just a
NASCAR car gear head kind of guy. You also raised
uh two boys yep, right, and you have a slew
of grandchildren ye what.
Speaker 3: And slu of a daughter. I got three step daughters,
but I call them my dollars because I pretty much
help raise them all.
Speaker 2: Uh huh. What what's the rule for raising good guys?
To me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just try to keep him out of trouble literally,
I mean, I mean, I mean, I know what I did.
I mean, don't get me wrong, and I don't advocate this, please.
I drove, drink and drive. I'm not gonna lie with
not gonna lie my buddy Howie. And really we used
to go to Collagen and Seneca Falls four bucks from
one to not from one to nine to one all
you could drink, you know, while the beer could drink,
you know, and we used to never you know, we
never came home sober.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: We always had a few beers in us. And uh,
I should tell my kids don't drink and drive. And
my son Robert, who I'm really proud, was my oldest son.
He was drinking at a bar one time and he
tried to calm in for some reason to let my
phone downstairs. Never heard the phone, so he ended up
staying there for like another three hours. They sober up
a little bit more, and then he drove home. Okay,
you know he didn't. He doesn't drive, or he'll call
and my son Brett has drank and walked home before.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, it's just well, I mean it's one
of these things too, because I remember we used to
talk to you on the radio and you would talk about,
you know, uh kind of hot rotting it out there
and three one five and racing and doing all these
different things, and it's like you're very honest about it.
And it's hard to then when your kids kind of
know what you did and they kind of look at
you like, yeah, you're a hypocrite.
Speaker 3: Well and it could be and I do and I don't.
And that's me. If that's what it is, I understand,
but don't. I mean me and my buddies. We'll get together,
we'll start to talking about the old days. We'll start
laughing just as her as we did back then.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing that I often think too, is that, uh,
you survived.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You survived.
Speaker 3: I survived, And I'm going to tell you right now.
I literally said, I hope we make it this far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, I said, what, what was the most dangerous
thing you did as a young guy? Do you remember
a time where you thought, holy shit, we looking back,
we could have died. We you were scared maybe in
the moment that that would happen.
Speaker 3: Probably probably one, because I was. Of course, we were
half in a bag. We're coming home from college in
and we're coming down the road my buddy's cars like
six or some card doing about one hundred miles an hour,
and I'm sitting on the windowsill out, hanging on the
roof like this. I'm sitting on the window still in
the back seat like that. Ha. See your ass is
out the window and you're sitting on I'm sitting.
Speaker 2: On the yes, and you're holding onto the roof, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see myself doing that too at the
same end, you know.
Speaker 3: And it's stuff we and the stuff stuff like that.
We used to had a buddy of mind that hung
onto winshow wipers one time to going down a roll
with him. He's like sixty miles an hour and she's
just hanging on by the winshow wipers. Yeah, you know
this stuff that you don't see that anymore. Please don't
do that. Kids, if you're listening, well.
Speaker 2: The thing is like you survived it, right and and
young young men in particular have this like invincibility. It's
not gonna happen, right and and hopefully they're correct. But
that's also the mindset that we wanted young men, because
if a conflict breaks up, whose asses on the line,
right the young man?
Speaker 3: Because you know you're you're just reckless. I mean, I
mean I've done stuff like I can remember coming home
one time from the bar. I'm still living at home,
and I backed my car up and I hit the
next door neighbor's fence and broke his fence. I got
up the next morning, walked out and went, oops, the
answers you better go over. Yeah, I went over, and
they went over, talk to him, help him fix it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, these are the these are the things, yeah,
because I can remember doing similar stuff. There was even
a time I was with a buddy on the Taconic
State Parkway and we got behind some really like an
old man in a hat, going real slow. So my
buddy goes, pull up as close as you can, and
I so I do, and I'm home in it and
he rolls down the window, leans out, bangs on the
driver's side window. The old man is startled, like he
doesn't even fucking know. I don't think he even knew
we were behind him, maybe, and he gives him the
finger and we just take off, and I go, how
terrible is that?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: If I heard my kids do that now, I'd be
out of my fucking mind, because one, you could have
given the guy a heart attack, right, you could have
caused an accident with him no matter what, and you
and me, right, and it's just reckless. I mean, that's
really really reckless. You know, we would do that with
beers who do all Kay, and I I think you
survived it. And so what I always try to say
is the line my dad used on me. I'm not
here to ruin your good time. I'm just here to
keep you alive, right, And uh, I think that that's
kind of how I've gone about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, the funniest part I kept most
of these stories away from my parents. Yeah, yeah, and
they never heard them until my daughter Breeze graduation party
when my buddy Billy's parents and my parents were and
Bill was telling them stories back and for because he
knew them all. My dad just looking at me, he says,
I should have known. I should have known.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But see, the great thing is and I almost
feel like it's a it was a better time.
Speaker 3: I loved it, Buddy, I won't go back to high school.
If I goaigh school four years I'm back.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if I would do high school,
I would definitely probably college.
Speaker 3: Well, I loved high school. Now. Tracy hated high school. Okay,
she hated it. I didn't know her back then, so
that's one why she paid school because she didn't know
me that well then. But we had a lot of
fun and me and the ability buddies. Yeah, we have
so much fun in high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm sure. But see the thing is that
this device in my hand, the phone, has changed everything
in terms of of course, your parents didn't know. One,
you weren't filming yourself and put it on social media
for any other parent to see and go, hey, mister cleerno,
did you know that Randy was sitting his ass down
at one hundred miles an hour? Like that would be
on TikTok? Right? Oh yeah, I mean I'm just saying
like that would have been. And the tracking devices where
your parents could track where you are, you know, So
those are all things that that just didn't exist. And
so when I say it was a better world, I
there's an argument.
Speaker 3: To be made to say, no, it wasn't right.
Speaker 2: There's an argument to be made to say no, it
wasn't at least now we kind of know and we're
keeping kids safe and we do this. And then the
other side for me is I think you learned how
to navigate life better because no one was there to
constantly scoop you up, you know, a parents' job, you know,
build you up, build you up, whatever. But they didn't
know where you were. And I remember as even as
a kid, I'd jump on my bike, I'd be gone
all day, go down to the town wreck. I'd be
over at the little grocery store, grabbing you who's and
you know, and looking at girls in bathing suits and whatever,
and it was awesome. And they didn't know where I was.
Or we'd be stealing one of my friend's older brothers
cigarettes and we'd be smoking those, and you know what
I mean, And there's something that's so innocent about that,
and I feel like that's were a loss. Now I'm
not saying kids should be smoking, that's not it, but
that freedom where you had that fun. One of my
favorite movies, really, I always loved it was stand by Me.
It was about the kids, you know, about twelve years old.
It's that age where they kind of go off and
they find a body in the woods and you know,
it becomes this big, big adventure, but they're they're kind
of they were I don't want to say they were
feral kids, because they weren't. The parents were checking in,
but it was just a difference. You couldn't you didn't
have the ability, you know what I mean. I mean.
The great thing was like could you imagine if you
tried to pull that stunt where you were sleeping under
the car now, they'd be wringing your fucking phone. Oh yeah,
you know what I mean? Hey, Randy, you know somebody
be texting you, somebody be doing this, somebody doing that.
It's I it's just where we are, I guess, but
I think I go was it better when we didn't
have constant communication and constant contact for everybody to sort
of develop? You develop a personality. Now, you develop a
personality that's very similar to probably everybody your age, because
you're all looking at the same fucking thing, right, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3: You see when I grew up in my favorite one
was murder Graffiti, one of my favorite. Yes, yes, cause
are the cars you know, and and today's day you
can see bick when I was a kid. Yeah, you
can take a picture of high schools in the seventies
and like the early eighties, hot rides in the high school.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, what do you go see now?
Speaker 3: Corollas Hondas Yeah, sugar rus right, you don't I.
Speaker 2: Mean ship, Brandy. You and I grew up in rural areas.
They used to have uh during hunting season. Guys would
have their guns in the car. Oh yes, and there'd
be no double thinking about it at all, because really
they were just responsible hunters, but they wanted to get out.
It got dark early, and you know, you got out
of school at two eighteen and Pine Plains. I'll never forget.
I always to to eighteen. I remember my Chief Triggle
on someday, I'll never remember the time he got out
of school.
Speaker 3: I go, I'll always fucking remember.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite time of day. Yeah, and it was different.
I had a friend who was a little bit older
than me. He baby sat us and he had a
road Runner and he painted canary yellow with black racing
stripes up the front. It was It was amazing. People
would borrow that car for proms and things and all
kinds of shit. You don't that that is not done today.
No it's not.
Speaker 3: I mean you don't see anything like that. I mean no,
we It was big for you know, when I was
high school, guys from wintertime like now, cars are put away,
motors are out getting rebuilt. This is getting done, this
is getting painted. It comes springtime, it's get it all
out and know AND's see what can do? What right,
and all that kind of stuff, and it's all you
worried about. And it's funny because I worked at I
worked for Burning Pray years ago, and then I worked
at Sonoco Station and Lendy Duert owned it. And my
buddy's hot ruts are always up on the lifts, you know,
doing something. You know, I go, you know, I'm working
on my car. I had a Nova SS with my
first hot ride ahead, and I did some work to
the motor and all that stuff. I was so anal
about that motor that every Saturday I changed oil in
that car every Saturday. Every I changed fifty weight race
and oil quicker state and a new filter. Every Sarday.
Every Saturday I changed the oil on that car. Okay,
and back that time would cost me like seven bucks.
Why though, just because I was animal about the motor.
I wanted to kept clean. I wanted to make sure
everything was great. Yeah. And then my buddy used to
take my old oil. They take and put it in
their curse.
Speaker 2: Well, sure, because it was hardly used. The oil then
was what three thousand miles? Yeah, thou about three thousand
miles was lucky If I was putting one hundred on
it and dumping it. Yeah. Fuck now I think you
you could probably go ten.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't even see, and I'm that's the biggest thing.
I'm still proponent. I won't go ten thousands. I used picker.
I used pens oil. Okay, yeah, says right on a
good for fifteen thousand miles. Get five thousand miles at
all out of it. I just changed oil in Tracy's vehicle. Yeah,
oil's out out. I don't care and bring a new vehicle.
Change oil two thousand miles, get it out because I
want all the filings that are in the motor. Any Yeah,
well there is right, yeah, and that I was brought
up there way and my father taught me that stuff.
I mean, not three thousand miles anymore. But and I
use full synthetic and everything I use. Yeah, So I mean,
as I'm proposing, I read about this stuff. I've done
testing for penns Oil. I've done testing for Quicker State.
You know, years and years.
Speaker 2: Ago, you're you were you speak to your parents and stuff.
They're they're still with us and uh, very family oriented
guy racing Randy.
Speaker 3: Yes, my dad's got a congenital heart failure, so he's
gotten a lot slower. You remember how my dad, yes,
I met him, have to remember the christ the Santa
Claus story at the house, you know. And my mom's
you know, she's slowing down too. But you know, Dad's
getting a little slower. He moves a lot slower, but
he's still sharp. He's still there. Let me tell you something.
He doesn't miss a thing. He doesn't miss the thing.
He's pretty sure. And it's funny because I am so said, turns.
I'm sixty five years old and I'm busier now when
it was when I was thirty five.
Speaker 2: Why is that?
Speaker 3: I don't know in terms of what I'm busy with. Family, family,
I got racing stuff, I got doing, I worked on
I'm worried about. I mean, I got me and Tracy
are working with sALS Butler. She's involved with it now
more on the T shirt Stales side and all that
kind of stuff. And I still chase sponsors and talk
to people people. I got people calling me even when
there're season's over. What they call me. I'll get phone calls.
And I had a phone call a couple of weeks ago,
some guy calling him, I want to bring this dragster blah, blah,
can I bring a bug? Yeah, yeah, you can bring
lots of passes teck. And I get people think this
gets done when I get done in September. Oh no.
I get phone calls all year and the best people,
like Tracy said, sometimes people complain because I'm in the
tower and I'm trying to talk, and she goes, well
you mis racing driving. I said, well, you know what,
I'm the only guy in there that everybody knows my
phone number. Guess who they're calling. I get phone calls.
It's eleven o'clock at you guys racing today? We started
racing at nine thirty. I got so mad that I
shouldn't have done it. But I got mad one time
last year. It's the last race of the year, and
have the driver's meeting and my phone rings, right, so Harry,
I'm staying with all these Are you guys racing today?
I pick up my phone, Hey, guys, is eracing today?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: There's your answer? Click?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I just I just it's not bad, no, but it's
just I got upset because I'm trying to do something
and I miss people talking to racing, you know, and
I feel bad I do it, but I'm the only
one that gets called during race day.
Speaker 2: Well, put number one delegate that shit, or put your
phone on do not disturb.
Speaker 3: No, I can't do that because you just somebody that
might might want to come. And buddy, you can't believe
the people. Yes, do you tell for South Butler Racetrack
is open again. Oh I raced their back in nineteen
sixty three. Blah blah yah. But I raced there in
sixty five and you're still running. And you know what.
We go to car shows well, and my buddy Bill
Arnold as a video sets up shows the races there
and the people that stop and look and go, oh, well,
you know, and it's it's just ridiculous stuff that went
on back then. Yeah. Like I said, remember that was
the first racetrack to use the Christmas tree in nineteen
fifty eight and HJA never used till sixty two. We
still have the win to the original stop place that
they for a Christmas tree. We still have one of them. Really,
we still have it, and Ronnie work still has it.
We had it set up for this will be our
tenth anniversary coming off.
Speaker 2: Do you have the ability to give people the reaction times? Yes,
we have a whole set up. We can get time.
Speaker 3: We got time slips, we got the whole smash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because what they can do in in NASCAR NASCAR,
in drag racing is you can actually see your reaction
time when the light drops. So how long? How long
does it take? And I think even if it's two seconds,
that's slow. Oh it's really slow, which sounds so weird,
right because it's two seconds. We watch NFL games and
I go, I'm fucking amaze when they go, hey, guy
gets the ball out of his hands in three point
two seconds, I'm like, three point two seconds. That's like amazing.
You have to just trust where that guy's going to be.
But with this, your reaction time is everything, and.
Speaker 3: We get reaction time trophies away in each class. Whoever's
got the best reaction you get a triple zero and
it means you were right.
Speaker 2: On the light. Yeah, I mean there are I don't
think I never got a triple zero. The best I've
done is zero zero five. That's the best, and that's fast. God,
I was gonna say I think the best I did
was zero. I think I did ten, not ten seconds,
zero point one zero. And then I was hoping to
get to eight. You know, I wonder, but I mean
it is like and I you know, I don't do
it as regularly as you, but it is as I'll
tell you what I'm not. I'm not big on watching
motorsports as much as I am and participating in motorsports. Yeah,
I would much rather be dragging, you know, going that
one forty and a quarter mile or whatever I can.
There's something about it. And I'll say this for for
that kind of stuff, and maybe you'll even be able
to agree. I'm very into like being mindful and meditations
and that sort of thing. I don't think and all
it is is like just kind of clearing your mind, right,
You don't think of really anything else, right, the thought
comes into your head, you kind of I always think
of myself as on an iPad, just swiping on away,
swiping away. When you're doing that, there ain't a fucking thing.
You may not even be breathing. At some points. You
are just so focused, right, you know what I mean,
holding that because you could lose the front end, you
could go, but and you are so like just in
the moment, there is not another thought in your head.
Speaker 3: You don't even hear the car running. No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I think you are absolutely randy. That is so true
until you start to slow down and the adrenaline is wild.
And I every time I would just burst out laughing
at the end because I just it's fucking what a thrill,
what an absolute thrill. That is to me one of
the best. Like I had never done the drag racing
until I was down there at Empire, and uh, because
even you know race car driving is I like, because
there there you have to think. You gotta think like
going in here and there and and different different turns,
and you want to know, like if you're seeing guys
break early, maybe you break late because they're gonna put
down a lot of sticky tack, right, so you can
kind of grip that turn and break a little later
out of it and that sort of thing. But and
by the way, watching a race with you is a
whole lot of fun. And I've done it at Watkins, Glenn,
and I've done it at your house, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the parties are memorable at the house, I believe,
Oh god, the parties were great. They what is like
I say too, And like you go to Empire and
you race there, okay, I'm Jerry and Claire people. Yeah,
top notch up him and his son, great people, the
whole crew there is absolutely phenomenal. You go there, your race,
you get beat, you're out. Yes, okay, let now come
to South Butler you pay, you race all day. We
just race for fun. When I call your class, you
come race. Yeah, you go, okay, I call her class,
I call your class and you come up a race.
You just race all day for one price? Is it
no prep ours? Is no prepay? Water water burnout only? Yeah?
You know, like you go to like some no prep races,
you'll see, Well, some guys they put the stuff. It's
called it's called stripper glitter they call it, yeah, and
it's for a bite to burn your tires sticky. Like
if you go to like I went to Christmas class,
well they do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they usually do that at like Empire stuff.
Speaker 3: No, Empire's water burnout only.
Speaker 2: Oh it is. What are they spraying down on there?
Speaker 3: Now? There's a sticky sales down the track. It's a glue.
It's a special glue that they put on the track.
But in the burnout it's water burnout only. But on
the track it's a special glue to help because.
Speaker 2: There are times I'm walking on there and then your
feet are stick you're probably stepping out of your shoes
with it.
Speaker 3: But I walked down.
Speaker 2: So that's a no prep too that. No, he's not
no prepp. Yeah he preps the track right.
Speaker 3: Yes, Jerry actually asked me one times, what do you
use to do? We don't do it. We're on no prep.
Speaker 2: We don't.
Speaker 3: You're kidding me, It says, no nothing. Yeah, and we
say we replaced the pavement there four or five years ago.
There was original payment from nineteen fifty eight. Yeah, we
just repaved off.
Speaker 2: I thought in the I've not empires.
Speaker 3: Water only in that in the burnout, in the in
the burnout. Now, I don't know when they did the
no prep kings there. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: What they know they did. Okay, I didn't see the
no prep I don't remember. I didn't go, but the
sticky stuff I would. I thought it was in the
starting area.
Speaker 3: No, that's that's the water. That's what the East Fream
spree water down. That's all this is water before we
do to burnout. But that's just from the tires burn
off grip. Yeah, but I went to Charlotte. Mean Trees
went to Charlotte and O nine we went in October.
The last race was there in July. We're walking and
I'm still sticking with my feet on the dragons still sticky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because it gets all hot.
Speaker 3: The that doesn't that doesn't happen at our place. But
we don't care, you know, We just water and you know,
sometimes you don't get enough water down. They get the
guys street car don't really need it. But the guys
that runs Super Pro got the tires like this, Yeah,
get them hot and get them and hot. We've got
new track records set there there again this year. It's
been broke again by Joe. Joe Schmoe alias Joe Williams
is the Joe Schmoe And I've got people to want
that track speed record. That's a big thing. We're known
for us a speeder. It's only a tenth mile yea
now it's like one twenty nine. I think it's just yeah,
and the tenth of the month. That's pretty quick. That's
pretty quick. Yeah. I got a guy, Sean Barney. He's
back out to the Sema show. He's out there right now,
probably coming back Seama should be shutting down. I think
after today. And uh, he came out there trying to
get the record and he ran one, but I knew
it wasn't fast enough. But speed didn't work on it lane.
It quit working, and I heard all about it. I said, listen,
I said, not a multimillion dollar corporation. I don't hit
millions of dollars in wiring. But we're gonna have to
rewire all that this uh comes spring. Yeah, we're gonna
have to We're gonna be wear all of it again.
And it's been ten years.
Speaker 2: So your whole life has really revolved around motors. Motors,
I'll just say motors, right, not mechanic all that stuff.
But you were also a referee for basketball and football,
high school game, baseball, baseball. Do you got basketball and baseball,
basketball and baseball, which I thought that's a lot. Did
you do that because your sons were playing or do
you just do that for.
Speaker 3: The love of it? I did it for the love
of it, and I didn't. I did little league in
Newark from like nineteen ninety one till nineteen ninety nine.
I did like over eight hundred games. I did Newark
Little League umpire and I did My kids were playing
and I did in something and I really kind of
got thrown into it by somebody that needed an umpire. Hey,
will you please just come and do this? And I
did one game and I got hooked and a hague
will you come back? Because people like how you did it,
and you always get the complaints. It doesn't matter, you know.
But I loved it. And when I did high school stuff,
I you know I did. I liked the high school stuff.
And don't get me wrong, there are some coaches that
are idiots. I'm not gonna lie to you, but they're
all the ones. Most of them are great. There's a
few that were idiots, you know.
Speaker 2: And it was the most chaotic moment we hear about
the worst part of youth sports being parents my most.
Speaker 3: But I never had too much of a parent problem.
They would get upset and I would just look at them,
you know, I just the biggest one. I had a
coach and I can't He was from a un Roe
County school, playing in Victor, doing a JV game and
sometimes on GV games and blind believe me, if you
want to umpire baseball, please hook up an organization. They
are really short at umpires. They wanted me to come back,
but I won't come back because I've had cornea damage
in both eyes. That's why I won't go back and
do it. But I was doing a game JV game
by myself.
Speaker 2: What are you blind? Ref? Yeah, exactly, you got cornea
damage Jesus Christ. That was on a strike.
Speaker 3: So I doing this game by myself and said, and
I heard about this this coach that he was kind
of a hothead, But I didn't, you know, calling the game,
calling the game. And there was a call at second
base where I got to come out from behind the
pig and I got to run, Yeah, get out quick like.
And I got out to the pitcher's mound and made
a call. Well, I turn around and here's that coach
standing next to me. I said, what are you doing there?
He said, get back over that line. I said, you
better get back over that line. You got assist a
coach because you got two seconds. Get back to that line,
and you're gonna be going home. Do you understand me.
I'm gonna call your call wherever you want. Let me
give you his phone number. Get off my field. Ah,
he got he got reprimanded. I heard he got reprimanded.
I mean in the victory.
Speaker 2: Why did he run out?
Speaker 3: Because he didn't like to call? He was he was
such a hot head.
Speaker 2: What do you remember what school this was?
Speaker 3: I cannot remember. I was Monroe County School, I do.
That's all I remember.
Speaker 2: Well, look, I mean there's I'm talking.
Speaker 3: I'm talking twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been some players that have come out of here.
A lot of times you'll hear baseball players. Where do
they come from? Usually it's warmer climate where you can
play year round, Florida, Texas, those kind of things, Southern California.
We've had a couple of guys who have had shots
at the big league. Seeo Culver being taken with the Yankees.
I think he only made it up to Triple A,
but I went to see him play at Frontier Field.
And then Ernie Clement is just a great story with
the Blue Jays and had a I think just set
a major league record for the most hits in a postseason.
Speaker 3: Right. So I got a friend of mine from Newark there.
I can't rock Stan Darren. I can't murder the last
name of off Time. Their sons with the Chicago. He
was started out with the jiggas he's with the Codes organization.
Now I'm hoping he makes it. He's a good, good player,
good ball player. Hoping he makes up to something, you know.
So it's pretty cool to watch that.
Speaker 2: It is very cool to watch that, and uh, you're
very involved, Like where where does that come from? This
involvement and everything, like the idea like oh, I'll go, ref.
Speaker 3: I'll go, I'll go. I just went and did it.
I mean, I was big in sports when I was
a kid. I played basketball, played baseball. I didn't play
I didn't play high school football. I played soccer. Was
a soccer player. So I got my leg broken and
that's when that's when the cars really took over, you know.
But I played all that stuff and I had a
good time with it, you know, and I just did
it when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: I was good at it.
Speaker 3: I just but once I broke my leg and you know,
it was here and then my man, Dad is you
want a car, You either got to get a job
and buy because we ain't paying buying if one. So
you know, leg's broken. I'm a hot ride guy. Okay,
cars win, go to work, get cars.
Speaker 2: Right, cars get girls back then or sports get girls
back then.
Speaker 3: It didn't really matter to me. I was more into
the cars. But I did get some bros. I mean,
not that I didn't have a little fun.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to it, all right, Okay, huh,
you know it was, you know, not Randy Wise, the
spec seat all standed up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all right, you know, but I'm not going
to say that the cars didn't help. But you know,
to me, it wasn't that big of a deal. I
you know, I do. Cars were cars with me, and
you know, if it had a motor and it ran
and it was you know, but it was a three
ninety six l or four to twenty six or three
forty Duster.
Speaker 2: A lot of songs about now that I'm thinking about it,
a lot of songs about cars but referring to her,
to the car as a her or a she.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she's real fine.
Speaker 2: My four own and nine sto Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Love the Beach Boys and yeah, I love the Beach Boys.
Speaker 2: Beach trying to think about what is the one I'm
thinking of?
Speaker 3: Yeah, go on, what is it? The Beach Boys tunes
that come on? I love all of them, the Beach
Boy tunes when they come on, I get around, Prince
of Fire, you know, all this stuff, you know I get.
Speaker 2: Did you go ever see them in concert? Yes? I
used to get very mad at Brian Wilson. Not Brian Wilson, Uh,
Mike Love, Yeah, because he always wore a fucking hat.
Speaker 3: This is Beach Boys.
Speaker 2: I'm like that he's so old that you forgot what
band you're in. You're not supposed to wear the band shirt. Like.
I've never seen Nick come out in a stone shirt.
I don't think. I don't think I've seen Keith Richards
do that or any of them.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen Gene Simmons come out with a kiss shirt.
Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm saying. You know right, they were this.
He comes out with Beach Boys on his head. I'm like, God,
don't do this. Everybody annoys the shit out of me.
I'm trying to think of the song that.
Speaker 3: That I'm thinking of.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 3: But little Old Lady from Pasadena, Yeah, there's one, remember
that one with a four four thirteen wedge car, which
is a Chrysler. Yeah, let's see, uh.
Speaker 2: Learning desire by the dashboard lights. Little Deuce Coop.
Speaker 3: Little Duce Coop's a big one, a little.
Speaker 2: Floater, Cadillac Ranch. Yeah, I'll think of it when we're
done here.
Speaker 3: But I remember when I was a kid where my
parents live, across from them was all housing development, but
years ago it was all farmland and Pierson Avenue was
just all Lincoln Road. And when I was a kid,
I could sit on the front stuff because I would
watch all these guys, including my next door neighborhood a
the time, Kip Tag. They all had road runners, Dodges, Chevells. Yeah, yeah,
you go line up a piercing them when they go
racing down pierces. I could sit on my front steps
of watching race until the cops came. I used to
it during the summer. It was usually every other day
they were racing down Pierson Avenue. And also I got
to watch all that stuff, you know. And then my
dad was big into it before. You know, he was
big in the cars, and he had a fifty five
Chevy and other things. Damn, he had some Pontiacs that
were pretty quick, and you know, it's so I grew
up with that kind of stuff. Like I said, the
first time I heard of Nascar, I sayed on my
dad's lamp watching the sixty four day, watching black and
white on Why World of Sports. The first time I
heard Richard Petty's name, Oh, it was yes, And that's
how I have Richard Petty's my man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Richard Petty is your your guy. All right, So
let's go back to NASCAR for a moment, because every
year you and your wife, that is your annual vacation.
Yes to Watkins Glenn. Yes, And you've done this for
how many decades do you think.
Speaker 3: I've done I started in the eighties, okay.
Speaker 2: So almost let's say three for almost four decades, right,
so over forty years. Some funny stories have come out
of there, the time your your son's took your money
and went all kinds of shit. But this year, what's
going on?
Speaker 3: And nine stupidest thing? Whatever?
Speaker 2: What is NASCAR doing? Because Watkins Glenn has been flexed, right,
they flexed it. It was usually the first or second
weekend in August every.
Speaker 3: Year, anywhere from the sixth to the fifteenth year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right there, right in August, and it was kind
of a thing. And I used to go down and
broadcast from the radio and do stuff like that. Now
you've got they did it in September.
Speaker 3: But they were doing that, that was two years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was flexed for what reason they would
put it in the playoffs of the Olympics or that.
Speaker 3: And they wanted to put it in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: They did want Watkins go on a road course in
there in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: And then this year did they move it to May
for twenty twenty tenth? Oh my god, stupid? Is that
Mother's Day weekend?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Well that's kind of cool for NASCAR because.
Speaker 3: They know it's not. Watkins Glenn is pissed off. The
whole town is pissed off. Why because it's not what
they expect. Watkins Glenn has a big deal on Mother's
Day weekend down there, and now they've taken that and
put NASCAR in there.
Speaker 2: What's the big deal on Mother's Day weekend? You can
come down and do hot laps.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but all I know is that the
town of Watkins Glenn's mad. Every to go NASCAR fan
to go to that races up in arms over this, buddy.
I'm telling you right now. You know it's New York State.
It's snowed in me.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you know many.
Speaker 3: Pictures I snowplows and the racetrack at Watkins Glenn. Here
we come, getting ready to get the track ready. I'll
get your study snow tires ready. I don't think we're
going this year, truthfully, really, Tracy has said we are
not going on Mother's Day weekend.
Speaker 2: I will not go.
Speaker 3: It's my mother's Mother's Day. I'm not going. So I've
already spent money I bought, we buy our stuff. So
you bought ticket. I got seven hundred and fourteen dollars
wrapped up in tickets and camping.
Speaker 2: So what would you do?
Speaker 3: I'll probably sell my camping spots to tickets. I don't
know what we're gonna do with those. I have no idea. Yeah,
and I understand Tracy. I mean I want to go,
but I understand it. I mean, it's there's a guy
I saw in our article.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm from Itsago. I don't think it's that bad. Hey,
stupid Hallings Bens. You've been in New York State, dumbass,
because it snows it rains. But we've been down there
in August when it rains. If it's good to be
raining an april like it does. Yeah, telling right now,
you better have fifteen tractors out there to pull everybody
out of the mud, because that's what's gonna happen. Stupid move.
I don't know what's up, NASCAR is asked, but that's
the dumbest thing. And I know they've got I bet
they've had over forty fifty thousand complaints right there. Their
office is no problem really because its called NASCAR.
Speaker 2: I've called there. There's a there is there is a
real possibility that it snows there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean you were just telling the story, did you
Was that two years ago that you met? So was
that September? Yeah? Okay, so September you said you were
cold at night and sometimes down there you're right next
to Seneca Lake. Uh one of that, by the way,
I think one of the coldest finger legs. I think
they used to do naval submarine stuff in there. So
I I don't know if I don't know if it
won't snow.
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you right now, me Tracy went, could
this be?
Speaker 2: I mean, if they had snow? Have they ever had
snow in a NASCAR race?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, Bristol happened at Bristol back in the nineties. Yep.
I remember a picture of Ailing Kowiki walking around with
his helmet on and his fire sewed on in the
jacket because it was snowing at Bristol, Tennessee, and his
dad was.
Speaker 2: In April, and that's an April So you know, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, like I said, me and Tracy. The first time
me and Tracy went together to watch this glen was
two thousand and six. Yeah. The first night we were
there went down to thirty eight degrees at night. We
were in a tent. Oh next year we had a camper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you know, I got you.
So it was a little well what did you do
to stay warm that night? Right here on Buddy Robin's racing.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's just it's, you know, the habit.
And I can't imagine in May what the weather could be.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I hope it turns out.
But and they said, well, it's going to be good
for like kids in school, No, you moround people could
through vacations around it in August their kids before they.
Speaker 2: Go to school.
Speaker 3: Sure not what during school in May?
Speaker 2: What is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Who you want to scream at them, what is wrong
with you? Why would you do something like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is definitely it's locked in.
Speaker 3: It's happening, Wow, Watkins Glenn is what it's going to
happen this year. There's no change going to change.
Speaker 2: That's around the time of the Lilac Festival. And we've
had snow at the Lilac Festival. Like it's been brutally cold,
brutally cold, and you figure you're down kind of in
the hills and of senecon Watkins Glen, and I.
Speaker 3: Mean I can hear everybody now, you know, because you
run generators all day during the day, but not you're
supposed to shut them off. Ain't gonna have it?
Speaker 2: Why did they want you to shut them off so
it's quiet and want quiet time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, No way where you can have a generator run
is you have a sticker and it's medical things that
you need it, Yeah, like you know, or at night
and stuff like that. People are gonna screw you. I'm
gonna my generator can help run my propane furnace here,
you know. And it's I I don't understand it. I
just don't understand it. What is your mindset? That you
would do that without I'm sure the town will walk
down ahead. No deal part. They just got it thrown
at them.
Speaker 2: I'm sure what happens if there is like a let's
just say a freak snowstorm comes through, we get and
we get like six inches at racing.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're gonna do. You're gonna wait
till Wednesday to race. I don't. I don't know what's
gonna happen.
Speaker 2: They be out there with heaters on the track, the blowers,
and I can't imagine.
Speaker 3: I don't think it, truthfully, I don't think it would
happen that weekend either. Yeah, I don't think it would happen.
I maybe I could see working up Sunday morning be
four inches or no on the ground. Yep, I guess
we're not reading. Maybe tomorrow, maybe tuesday, you know. Yeah,
you're New York State is so screwed with the weather
the last few years. You know, it could be anything,
could be ye, watch it be beautiful and suld be nice.
What would be great? Get me wrong, it'd be great.
Speaker 2: What's in the box there?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a U. I wanted to see what
you I got.
Speaker 3: A collect you know that clut stuff. Yes, well I
told you we got that helmet to sign by one.
This is a helmet from his new sponsor.
Speaker 2: Wow, even got the cover on the Now, is this, say,
a Rebel.
Speaker 3: Bourbon, Rebel Bourbon helmet and it's.
Speaker 2: What he Rebel Bourbon has been around for a long time.
Speaker 3: When they start sponsoring Kyle two years ago?
Speaker 2: No, maybe I'm wrong? Is it rebel yell? Was it
rebel yell?
Speaker 3: The now?
Speaker 2: Is this a helmet that you could wear in a race?
You can't.
Speaker 3: It's just a replica. Is this a replica? Put a
thing in the bottom so you can't. You cannot put
it on. There's a thing in the bombs. You can't
put it on your head. But you know, I thought
that was so cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's okay. I see it's all
painted up.
Speaker 3: It looks like a keg. Yeah it does, yeah, like
a barrel there. I just thought it was very cool.
So it's another I get. I have a Kevin Harberck
helmet from his last year racing. Yeah, you have a
bush helmet.
Speaker 2: May I ask what a helmet like that? What does
that cost? One hundred and seventy five bucks?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So but it's just one of the collectible just
you know, certain things that Tracy didn't let me buy. Yeah, yeah,
you know, so guys say that's somebody like I said,
I've got three helmets, this one Kyle Kyle Busch other helmet,
and then I have a Kevin Harbert beer helmet.
Speaker 2: So well, I think if you were to buy an
actual racing helmet, you're in the two fifty three fifty
range minimum.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and then you see all the designs they
got put on them, and all the designs.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that that would be the cost of those.
I mean, you were probably I'm thinking you could go
four hundred r yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The manufacture and all that stuff. Remember it's one
of them, and they got to add some They add
the stuff for the mics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the air holding and all that.
Speaker 3: You know, some of them they start making them that
way now.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I'm just thinking like if you were just
to do even dirt track and stuff. I don't know
that you have radios in those helmets, do they They
have a.
Speaker 3: Radio and them so you can hear, Like you can't
talk bag or forth to your pits, right, you can't diggle,
but they have a soul race control, say an accident
here blah blah, or if your transponders not working, ton't
let you know.
Speaker 2: There seems to be a lot of accidents in turn
one as they come in front of the grand stands
there and then back out. That's where I've seen most
of the accidents.
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to get that first turn on. I want
to lead that first lab.
Speaker 2: Right right, I got it. That's what happens, Randy. Did
we not cover anything? Uh?
Speaker 3: Just I don't think we got everything. Yeah, I just
want to say thank you forhaving me on. Oh sure,
many pleasure. First eve was two thousand and eight when
we got together. Yep, two thousand and eight. All them years,
and I still got to get your ass out the
south Butler, one time, I gotta get out there. Graham's
been out there, you have been out there. Come on,
I'll go this summer, it's our tenth anniversary. This year
is our tenth anniversary running the track, so it's a
big deal.
Speaker 2: It's been fired up for ten years.
Speaker 3: Nen years we've been doing this.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, where did that time go?
Speaker 3: I know, tell me, how what do you think?
Speaker 2: Buddy?
Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight imagine.
Speaker 2: Wait, you started South Butler in two thousand.
Speaker 3: We started selling Butler in twenty sixteen. You're twenty seventeen, okay, yeah, sure,
this is coming up to be our tenth twenty Yeah,
twenty twenty six Yeah, coming year anniversary. All right, Yeah,
I'll come out where the time went, because you know
what You're gonna get in for nothing?
Speaker 2: You know that well, I know it has nothing to
do with the money. It has to do with get
up pain. He has to get down there. It's this
is like me going to a Bills game. You know,
I'll be all enthusiastic until the day of like, go, fuck, man,
I gotta get up.
Speaker 3: I gotta go anyway.
Speaker 2: You know, I have to be there like and I go,
I go. I should never ever complain about that because
I've I don't remember the last time I drove to
a Bills game. Oh I did with Danny. I did
do that one with Danny on a Monday night. But
most of the time I'm a passenger. I'm getting VIP
parking and sweet tickets with heaters, and I mean it's
a fuck and yet here I am going a man,
but I would like to come down. Maybe I'll.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: There's so many things happening right now, but I would.
I would love to get a that I could.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll get you. I'll get your riding one
of them cars. No, one of the Supero. You're riding
in a super Per. I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to ride in it. That's what I'm saying.
I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: I mean, I might be just somebody drive a street car.
Speaker 2: No, I think I would. Uh, maybe i'll maybe I'll
purchase one. I don't know. I have so many things
like I'm trying to. I don't want to say too
much because when I say things like what I want
to do and I haven't, I told you something already
that I haven't really shared with many people.
Speaker 3: Remember what it is.
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's not that big, not that big a deal,
but it's just something that uh, and I The reason
I haven't said anything is I don't I want to.
Let's get through it and then I'll tell you how it's.
You know, it doesn't really affect anything for anybody. It
actually makes life a little easier.
Speaker 3: But that I'd like you to come down May seventeenth
for a car show and judge helped judge cars. I
love to hear you do that. Yeah, you know where
is that right is South Butler drag Way. We have
a big car for fucking snows never believe it or not.
We've only had one rain time there. Yeah, we get
two hundred cars for a car show, which is damn
for a little town of Wayne County. Yeah, out in
the middle of nowhere, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Randy's been in the Times and Wayne County featured
as as uh Danny interviews you. He writes the sports stuff,
and I think there were some other things they.
Speaker 3: Did on you. Oh, Danny would do different things.
Speaker 2: No, but I thought there was one where they did
a whole thing on you. Was it Danny who did it?
About the radio? You got like a featured thing in
the Times of Wayne.
Speaker 3: County when the radio thing, when you guys first came
out at one time, you came out that day we
went down to uh Parker's afterwards. Yes, remember that party
that was like that was that was awesome. That was fun.
Came down for the Newark Fest at one time, and yeah,
you know they had a good time there.
Speaker 2: But there because the Times of Wayne County is is known.
I I only found out about it when I was
doing afternoons and somebody called me up and goes, you
got to get a copy of the Times of Wayne County.
And I think they must have been online because how
would I get it. And the guy goes, you gotta
check it out. And it's these two police officers standing
in the bedroom of a house like this was there.
This was their you know ten point buck right, this
is their ten point buck picture. They're posing because they
just did a big drug bust. And over their shoulder
on the dresser is a giant dildo. And it was
in the Times Wayne County and I just remember and
that was when I started like, you know, three one
fivers and all this stuff. And the Times Way County.
I mean, look, there's a story in there today about
uh or this this latest issue about a woman who
uh and this is a country thing.
Speaker 3: I would think, I would say, this has got to happen.
Speaker 2: In rural areas. She uh, she got pissed at her
husband and whipped out a machete. Now I'm going, who
has a machete? I happen to have a machete. I
do happen to have one for real, because it was
given to me by Mike the Dead.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, hey, hey Billy, you need a you need protection.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I but this woman whipped out a machete
and then she choked her husband, like put her hands
on it, and then she went around and just started
smashing the machete into bags of cement. So I'm sure
there was just cement powder everywhere. Who the hell knows
you get you know, you just get a synopsis. So
I used to like to call people who were in
the times Wayne County to get the other side of
the story, because I always go, Okay, this sounds too funny,
but I'll never forget one more. A guy got pulled
over for having a taillight out and who's found to
be in a pair of green silk underwear and had
a bottle of West and Oil chicken, and he was
on his way to Ontario Video News, which, by the way,
well they had they had the buddy booths back there.
You could go in and in the back of Ontario
and Video and News, which had at first it was
a smoke shop up front, then it was an adult
store in the back, and in the way back they
had movies. And I remember going there once to pick
up something for a stag party, and I'm curious person,
so I got to know what's going on. And I
see all these people and they're in the back and
it was I think it was gay guys. Like they
would wait till the movie started and then then the
one guy would open the curtain and pop in and
they two guys would be in there watching whatever they
were watching. And I was like, oh, And then some
guy followed me around the play. I've told this story
so many times, but I'll give it to you because
he made a face I was looking. So he started,
he came out and he just kind of locked eyes
on me, and I got really nervous. Now this was
bringing back everything for me, because don't forget I was
sexually molested by a guy. I'm like, this is freaking
me out. I mean, like, I am twenty one, twenty
two years old, and maybe I'm around there and I'm
I'm I'm like really nervous. So I can't say don't
look at me, right because the guy could deny it.
But I could feel his eyes on me. I could
feel him following me around. So I thought, what do
I do. I find a video VHS with the woman
on the cover that has the biggest tits ever. I
just felt like that screams heterosexual, leave me alone. That's
really what I thought. So I buy this shitty tape.
I didn't even want it. It could have been nine dollars.
So I get it and I leave and I walk
out and the guy is now he's out in like
the vestibule area, and he smiles at me, and I'm like, fuck,
so I don't know. So it's freaking me out, Randy,
Like I could tell that this guy was interested, which now,
if it happened, I'd be like, that's flattering. I'm an
old man now, but that's okay. But even then I
should have been more flattered and like, oh flattering, not interested,
probably would have ended it no problem. But I am
all like, I'm up in my head. I don't know
what's going on. So now there are there's an entrance
on each side of this vestival stairs come up in
Ontario video notes out in Ontario off one oh four.
So I decide, okay, I'm parked. When you're looking at
the building on the left side, I will go out
the right door and then juke duck down and get
to my car. So I do that, and I'm out
of the car, and I still had a key to
unlock my door, and I can hear the gravel crunching
slowly like it's honest to god, it would be like
a horror movie. And and and this probably isn't even
what happened, but this is what's going on. My I
am so nervous. Now I drop the fucking keys. I
drop them, I pick them up. I'm all nervous. I
finally get in the car, I slam it down. I
turn on the headlights, and the guy is standing right
in front of my car, right in front of my car.
I fucking back out, kicking up dust in a little
Volkswagon rabbit.
Speaker 3: I'm fucking shit in my pants. One oh four.
Speaker 2: At that point is two lanes headed east and two
lanes headed west.
Speaker 3: YEP the ones.
Speaker 2: So this is on the east side. You have to
go east. You have to go east to get off
Ontario Video News. I'm sure if you're going west there's
a way off. But so I am so nervous. I
punch it. I punch out. I fished out, and I
start going west in the eastbound lanes. Now this is like,
I don't even know what time it was. I think
I had been out drinking, so this is really helpful.
And I decided, oh, let me go get my friend Scott,
who I'm his best man. I'm gonna go get the
stuff for the stag party. And now I'm driving and
then all of a sudden, I see cars coming and
people beeping, so I cut through and I keep driving.
I'm like, holy shit, my heart was racing. I was sweating,
and that that was my uh, that was my He
has been back, folks, No I haven't. That's that's a
true story. I have not.
Speaker 3: I've never heard that story. But sometimes you can tell
you can feel, you can feel.
Speaker 2: What can't you tell when someone's like you could feel it?
Speaker 3: Like you just you do?
Speaker 2: You know? Well, it's because we all admit an energy
and like I should have been flattered that this this
guy wanted to, Hey, you want to come in the
buddy booth, you know? But man, and I I just
remember buying the most ridiculously because I'm not even like
a big tit guy.
Speaker 3: Right, you know, I like grab something to make it
look Yeah, more of their mouthfuls of waste, folks. He
did buy.
Speaker 2: No Wessonnoy Uh anyway, but I think we we covered everything.
Thank you very much for the camel sign. Uh we
will get that up. Uh. Please give my best to
your lovely wife and uh we gotta get Yeah. I
know Robin's racing and there you.
Speaker 3: Boy, she smiles and I'm naked. All it happens.
Speaker 2: It happens even at sixty five, even at sixty five.
Speaker 3: Well, and folks, do me your favor. If you can't
get out to South Butler Draguay. If you're looking for information,
go to the official South Butler Draguay on Facebook, okay,
and you will see stuff. We do have flyers made
or not out yet with flyers are made for next
year's events. It's the last Sunday in June, July, August
and September. Love to hear you come out. You can
mention my name. You want to find me, you'll baby
to find me. Wear shirt says a racer Randy on
it in a bright yellow sheet. Can't miss it, you know.
So if you want to meet me or if you
want to just talk.
Speaker 2: Race was rac and Randy the Moniker born in two
thousand and eight. Yes, that's when we started calling Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah monker and I and I said, just said it
just for the hell of it. And it stuck. Yeah,
it did did stick. Well, that's great.
Speaker 2: Normally I closed with John Hyatt's Tennessee plates. But I
think I'll do this John Hyatts song. This is called
Detroit Made, which I believe is I think he says
in this refers to the car as as sheep. I
think it probably does. Yeah, but that's the We'll just
listen to just a second one.
Speaker 3: But I don't think many people will do. Santa Quara bab,
she will ride you there, you go, take you up
about half past nine. We can't ride all that there
it is.
Speaker 2: I came up from the country.
Speaker 3: Maid City is where I'll say, you got me a
due Santa Quarta's fad.
Speaker 2: That's all I've got to say. She's a dern. Yeah,
there you go, santaqua Good all American Maid Automobiles, Randy,
And right, that's right for racing, Randy. I'm Bill Moran.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3: All work so we can't ride in start and around
those bucking seats. The common up