Speaker 1: Six, yet I thought it was late, No, you know,
late just on time.
Speaker 2: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the I didn't
know what to title this the NFL after nine, the
NFL twenty twenty five Fantasy Draft results after nine? Who knows,
But just like we did last year, we're doing it
after nine, and I will explain what happened here. So
we're here with myself the number one Sam Darnald Fan
tres Snow, which is a perfect name, perfect name. I
don't know what kirk On sign about, perfect name.
Speaker 1: And we're joined by I am better luck next year
their compator, fair.
Speaker 2: Luck next year. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was trying to.
Speaker 1: Fun former Sam Darnald Fan.
Speaker 2: I was trying to find our entire the ranking, but
after I gotta go maybe the app, but the website
once the season ends for Sleeper is awful. Even last
year trying to find what her rankings was.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought they had the previous they do, but.
Speaker 2: It's like it's putting like a weird spot or something
like that. Like right now it's showing me like it's
already ready, yeah, and it's already ready for this year.
It's like you're showing everyone at zero zero zero. But
what this is?
Speaker 1: Season here?
Speaker 2: You go, Okay, keep that up, keep it up. After yeah, well,
wait till runs in the room, Wait till RNs in
the room. We'll go over it again. But yeah, so
what this is, it's a kind of a doubleware. If
you're a football fan, you'll enjoy probably the first half
this half of this, and if you're not, then you'll
enjoy the second half. Because what we do is there
is a copious amount of pools. There's three pools. There's
our fantasy draft, there's the playoff pool. What's the other one? Oh,
there was a like a win you're in sort of
pool many. It has all the he's the pool master,
you know. So this year what we've deemed is obviously
the winners. You get to pick a movie. We'll see
if detail joins us. If he does not join us,
i'll read off his review because he was the loser
of the Fantasy Draft. I'll least reveal that I made
him watch a Siberian film, which is one of the
most grotesque films you can ever watch. I'll save his
full review for a vet if he comes on Alaska.
But then, in a good sense, we're gonna be reviewing
the prestige, we're gonna be reviewing the replacements, and we're
gonna be viewing Tusk because Tusk. Yeah, that's when you won, right, Kirkle,
because you won the.
Speaker 1: Win in the Survivor pool. I think it's what it
was called.
Speaker 4: You pick you pick.
Speaker 1: One team every week to win. You can only pick
one team one, so there it is fun. It ended
early and a quick. There was some upsets for sure,
but I ended up pulling out on that one, so
I was I was pretty happy with it. That was
like my one win this entire NFL season, unfortunately, but
you had three.
Speaker 2: You had three at least or didn't have four. We
were pretty close. Some record like oh that when I'm
I think you man in your actual win. Don't want
to go on and wait to the links there now
some people gym, we're not live today. People were wondering,
oh did I miss this because Marble Liance is six,
so I didn't want to ruin their livetime. But man,
this season down, like we said, NFL close of the
channels there, uh if people don't know, so yeah, it's
us and some patriot some listeners. We get a fantasy
dress so if you want to The best thing is
if you like football or want to join us next year,
join the Discord click the solo link down below that
has our link for everything, and the Discord link does
not change it all anymore. It is one solid link.
We talk football all year. Also, it's a little quiet
during the off season, but there's still memes and sprinkling
of other sports and stuff. So yeah, we got that.
We got channels for everything, so check out that, and
then lots of contents on the the right. Now Golden
Geeks is hot and heavy MCU Golden Geese's drop draft
is starting. We've got tons of retros. You're ready for
that next week. Kirklen we got two residue retros, A
Punishure retro, what else? What is the other? We were
reading something else too, I thought what is? And these
are for Patreon producers. As we've said, oh oh, the
flashback episode, right, we're gonna be talking about a right
third episode of all time. Dylan's gonna have that prepare
we have to check on it. I've been half listening
to it, just save my thoughts. Hate listening to it, Hey,
absolutely hate listening to it. But yeah, as we said before,
there is a schedule for the year based on the tiers,
but if you come a Patreon producer, you get everything early.
The seconds record shout to pature On producers Aaron Braden,
April Darkness, Jack Rant, super Bad, Mike Gollows Me sixty nine,
Remember his Fetus a Dog All, Lenny Kravitz, Cocktail, Clay,
John no H, Sam Green, and John with an.
Speaker 5: M So.
Speaker 1: John with an M.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: It's just like because John and no n H and
then John he's just John m.
Speaker 1: But you know it's throwing off for a second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, so this this was an interesting season.
We'll wait to fully deep dive into it. What were you
gonna say, sir? Yeah, Uh, you're gonna tell at the season,
weren't you? Sure?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was gonna talk about the season. It was funny.
Speaker 2: Mash and No One joints for the two hours, just
you and I talking about these movies. I was like, yeah,
try this soon after night. It's just they just wanted
to hear us review them. The bastards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just stretching out those two hour long episode. Yeah,
but no, this was, Uh, it's been an interesting ride
because as of last year, that was like my first
year actually following the NFL and participating in fantasy football.
I chose a team last year who had a fantastic record.
It was a really exciting time. And then I feel
like this year was very very important for me as
a football fan now because it just it really set
in the reality of what NFL football is and and
choosing the team to follow is like it's literally just
back to back disappointments and failure. Every year. Only one
team wins and sometimes you get on a ride, but
it's just like it's mostly disappointment. I feel like a
lot of good teams also that that are like the
set favorites. Injuries are like pretty much the one thing
that is like me to.
Speaker 2: Talk about about it. And the Colts man, the Colts
were the favorite.
Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, like a over.
Speaker 2: Season of hals like, oh, they're the guys there, that's
it and uh, no one injury Indiana Jones and he's done.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's like so hard to predict too, like
what's going to be coming up on on who's gonna
be the favorites or or whatnot just because of injuries, longevity,
trades or you know, repeating this year go Hawks.
Speaker 2: I'm a Hawks fan.
Speaker 1: You gotta get a you gotta get Donald jersey now,
because you said that those your your role right, if
they're Super Bowl winners, then you got Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I feel too, that's too badwag me for me. Honestly,
if so my.
Speaker 1: Storey family, isn't she a Hawks fan?
Speaker 2: She is, but I don't think she wants a full
on jerseys. That's the kids, No, I I so, I
My story is. I'll tell this quickly so we don't
get in the season without the boys, because yeah, I'm
a Packers fantom used to disappointment. We have won the
worst blown leads of all time. Not only do we
not fire Matt Lafere, we give an extension. Fuck yeah,
that's that's what we do over here on Greenwan.
Speaker 1: The most swins in like NFL history though where Yeah, where's.
Speaker 2: The most trophy? Okay, no, the trophies, but I'm say
Matt Lafere. They always throw the stupid status of the
most winningest coach of Packers history. Yeah, well, I'm not
wearing a Packers twenty whatever NFC champions jersey or a
superl jersey, but like, uh and uh, quickly before I
tell my story. We'll bring in. Uh, he did warn us,
And this is just he's always on the move, you know,
the trivia day and not here John, or you'll just die.
One day you're gonna see this man on the FBA
must want him, like, oh, it completely makes sense. He's
always That's how they caught him through our stream. But
how's it going, John?
Speaker 3: Looking sure?
Speaker 7: Thank you?
Speaker 6: I just got out to work.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I noticed that every time I I'm only walking
around somewhere or in an undisclosed location.
Speaker 6: So what I doing after dines?
Speaker 2: Yeah, one day we'll get you sat down in a chair,
but that's okay. And yeah, we know you gotta leave
bit earlier, but we'll make sure to hit your thoughts up.
But I kirkl And asked me if I was gonna
buy a jersey, because I told him the only reason,
the only way I buy jerseys. Maybe it sounds like
a bad fan, but I buy them as like a
commemorative thing. So in raw Rogers and the company won
the Super Bowl, I bought a jersey and wore it.
I was going for the Hawks, and I consider myself
a Hawks fan, but I'm too new to be in
that sort of club like to me with the Commanders.
I was never a Commanders fan, but because I just
sniped Daniels in the draft and he just rose up,
I felt like, oh I found something, you know, like
the Hawks. Like I did have Jas in my draft,
and I had Darnold at some points. But I felt
like I became a fan throughout the season. But that's
too much of a band waging for me just to
get the jersey. Then, because I've told this story a
couple of times. This here where we are in Colona, BC,
closest place to us in America is Seattle. And anytime
Seattle's doing anything good in sports, it's like everyone, oh,
Hawks been my favorite team. I love the Seahawks. People
that I've never ever heard say anything about a single
game of football, they're like, you going for the Hawks
so almost like out of like necessity. Like I'm not
cheering for the Hawks and never did, other than when
they vers Patriots the last time. But I was always
just because everyone, even be with my family, were like,
oh go Hawks. It's like you don't watch a fucking game,
you know, Yeah, that's the end of the team.
Speaker 3: Well, Toronto Ist is like.
Speaker 1: Seattle is. We've said this multiple times. It's like basically Canada.
Speaker 2: Yesous it's the most Canadian American place and just like
Toront's most American Canadian place. So that's what Honestly, if
now I consider myself an actual fan of the Hawks,
it is donald those two things of one just we'll
go over to Buck Kirkland forever. But I did love
the story of this guy that's been on five different teams,
could never get it right now you're and then yeah
with Jay said like awest you talk about when we
draft you. We watched them and he was just like
the commanders For me, anytime he was on field was
so fun. So now I can say I am a
Hawks fan or a fan of these people, but I'm
not going to buy like next year if they win
and then I'll be like, Okay, I'll get a jersey.
I would feel too bad wing and be like I
just adopted them this year and get a jersey. You know,
do I think they're actually gonna repeat? No, but you know,
go Hawks, It's gonna happen. You know.
Speaker 8: We should have had a bet with Kirkland at the
beginning of the playoffs that if Seattle won, he would
have to buy Sam Darnold Jersey.
Speaker 6: We should make him wear it tonight.
Speaker 2: That great, great, yeah, but none of us have that,
none of us peg that actually happening. But we'll bring up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was happy I picked up. I was when
we had to pick I did feel Hawks because it
felt like they just had that momentum. They just felt
like they were starting the role. But we're talking about Canadians, Mike,
what happens over there, because obviously we are. You're not
as close Seattle as we are, But it's the same
thing when Seattle's in like the past few years, like decades,
when they've gone the playoffs, have you gone the like, well,
you know, we should root for them? Or what is
it like where you live for No, to.
Speaker 4: Be fair, I do not talk with many friends in
my area that are football fans, So it's mostly with
my dad and he's a Jets fan nose he.
Speaker 2: Like, does he still an enjoyment of these games where
he's just sit in his chair just like just look
like the crip keeper, just mad at life, just like
the chips.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a damn good question because every year he
goes in with hope and every year I.
Speaker 2: Hope his dash. So he's like that video of the
Jets that young guys like I was raised with the
team my family, but I hate this team, man. I
hate coming to these games, I hate watching the sports.
It's like you gotta change at that point.
Speaker 8: But yeah, my favorite Jets moment this year was I
think it was Game three against the Bucks where I
think they scored a special team's touchdown and Aaron.
Speaker 6: Glen just did that dance yeah Ron and losing the game.
Speaker 2: For god, that's the guy. Like I I liked his vibe.
I liked him. You want to do well, But yeah,
Jets are definitely one of your more curse teams out there.
Speaker 9: Like they had Donald too, right at one point they
did have him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's good words about it. He just said
he was disappointed. Couldn't uh, you know, like give them anything.
But yeah, I feel like with you know, Vikings packers,
like even Johnson with Giants, like, you know, you go
through rough patch. Obviously you're I think in quite a
rough patch right now, john like you've been for a
little bit, but Jets have just been a rough pack
Like oh yes, like yeah, I feel like there's two
times in my life is when far was there and
that didn't end up that well. And then like Mark Sanchez,
you know who had an interesting season this year.
Speaker 4: There was the hope of Rogers that one year, and
then that was quickly dashed the first game.
Speaker 2: The flag man he was was the Achilles. In the
next season, he got everyone fired on that team and
then left after being like, I just hate these people.
They're the worst type of people I've ever played with.
But uh uh no, So yeah, that's for people that
don't know. We alluded to it, but I was very happy.
That's Kirklin avoid the Super Bowl newscast. I was so excited.
I was hype. So now I'm cool down, but I
was so excited because Kirkland knows. Now until we die,
every year, I'm gonna because like I liked getting that
pizza bet. That was such a long term call, Kirkland
me calling that out, saying the Vikings aren't going to
get them. But you know why, because it specifically was
on San Donald. I said, why did they let him go?
So that's what makes me feel better about it, and
forever I'm gonna bring up this, and I if I
felt better, I should have brought a Sam Darnold Jersey.
But again, I feel too fraudulent doing that right now.
But next year it happens. Oh I'm gonna I'm yeah,
I'll buy two. I'll buy one for myself and make
Cookland where the Seahawks.
Speaker 3: One as well.
Speaker 1: I'll I'll absolutely wear it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's worse because they had Daniel Jones too, both
of them.
Speaker 1: Go oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Speaking of JJ, I did have something here where.
Speaker 1: I knew you had something. I couldn't even find it.
I was like a for earlier.
Speaker 2: How did you know I had something?
Speaker 1: It's just by your eyes. I've been doing this a
long time with you. I can see when.
Speaker 2: You I'm know, like savant, like Taylor Field. But I
did try to make I tried to get like an AI,
wanted to fix it, and it kept like I don't
know if I still I don't think I have the
AI ones were making you look like it looks a
little bit like your bone structure, but none of your
features were the same. But that's the best I could
do in like fifteen minutes, was that? And yeah that
I'm very curious how his season goes next year. It's
not only do they have like a bad season. I
don't think. Now we're in the Internet age, so that's
what happens. I've never seen a quarterback memed on as
much as this call yea fact that this image any player,
any coach, any receiver, they're doing bad. Like that doesn't
even happen in movies. It happens sometimes in wrestling, but
like in football, the fact that you just man, I
hope he just activated. I hope, like no action his
phone with social media. He doesn't look because you're just
the fate.
Speaker 8: Like I feel like he's in fairness, he did it
to himself, like with all this hype and how he
gets ramped up before games, how he has this alter
ego he has done anything in the league.
Speaker 6: He's just like this different person.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a different person that throws three picks a game.
Speaker 6: That's what we got so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how do you feel about that? Kirkland, your Vikings fan?
So you got that? Look forward to next year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I mean, I'm hoping that there's some some
interesting at least some support around him, because like just
the like the setup around the quarterback position for the
Vikings this year was I feel like just horrible, Like,
especially in hindsight looking at this guy that's like completely
unproveny like no support system. Carson Wentz had like a moment,
but he like his shoulder was just so fucked that
like he could even play at all. After however many
games he did end up starting, and just like, what's
what's the plan? B?
Speaker 6: Like, I have a prediction. I think the Vikings trade
for Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: I have seen that buzz going around. I've seen a
lot of names going around. It's like it's hard to
kind of see what is true or not murmurs. But yeah,
I don't know really anything about Kyler Murray other than
he's like four feet tall. But yeah, a lot of
a lot of players.
Speaker 8: He's a very talented player. He just hasn't had the
best coaching.
Speaker 1: I mean, who's the Colts guy that got replaced to
I saw that name thrown around.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't be a bad I mean he's still young.
I would. I think Kyle will probably.
Speaker 8: A better fit because he's more of a veteran, and
I think Kevin O'Connell can have a bigger impact on him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you need another QB to challenge nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, absolutely, and hopefully somebody that's and has been
around for a long time, because that that's that's the
hardest part about losing, you know, Sam Darnold the Mema side.
But like Daniel Jones and I think there was another
vet that they had in the quarterback room at the
end of last year that they ended up just saying
goodbye to at the end of season. I can't remember
because the qb room was stacked at the end of
last season, like five quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: They actually turned Tom Brady away too. He wanted to
come back for the Vikings. Yeah, you should have. I
offered Kirkham many times on the fantasy draft tom Brady
to trade for you was there. He never He never
accepted him, you know so I remember that.
Speaker 1: Bad for the Vikings. It was even worse here for
the for my fantasy team this year. But other my
lesson not to put all my eggs in my uh
in my bias pic of picking up mostly Vikings players,
that kind of shot myself on the foot, especially when
they obviously weren' getting points for fantasy.
Speaker 2: It would sometimes work for Clay and Mike. For the
Mike had the Cowboys connection going on.
Speaker 4: Which completely happened by accident because after Jackson kind of
went sideways, I had to quickly scramble something together and
it ended up working out pretty well.
Speaker 2: You got them in the best times. And then play
had the Lions, which ollestly with the They were very
hot and cold this year, but they worked out quite
a well for him. I did feel bad though, because
I feel like there's multiple weeks he had Josh Allen
and he just wouldn't play him, and then I feel
I can't remember it was a week one in the
playoffs he did play Josh all it went It went
terrible for me. It was like a really bad Josh
Allen game. So yeah, uh, but he was pretty hot
and cold this year, yes, yeah, and then like mostly
cold near the end, I know, the playoffs. That's that's
something that's uh yeah. There's a lot of interesting storylines
that are going to head into next year with like
Alan and see how he's gonna pick up, See what
if which I think Kelsey's coming back, if that whole
thing is gonna be run back, and see how if
they can like rebound or if it's over and what
the deal is. So and I'm excited to just watch
my fucking packers go eight to nine and do the
exact same thing over again. Travis rant I read like
a little I read it like a little bit. I
just I I that's where it's just because, yeah, Kirk
was talking about being disappointed and I'll bring in another Canadian.
You're out number one, but yeah the champ is heredness. Yeah,
congratulations man on the on the win. You went from
last to first. That's a that's an incredible feat. So
I guess before yeah, I'll go back to back ash.
How did it feel because last year, yeah, you took
a beating and I know that's like now because there's
nothing worse than going weeks without a win. Like I
think last year I.
Speaker 9: Was in the middle.
Speaker 2: I think I finished like fourth or fifth or maybe
fifth or I don't know. But like when you're in
the middle, if you got like an even record, that's okay.
When you have those, you win one and it's like
five weeks. I eventually went back. The first few weeks
were awful when it's like Maddy beat me the first week,
but I could have beat everybody else. And then there's
a little shit like Kirkleim beat me, when like La
or no, Jane Daniels went down quarter well that and
then the second time we verst like Jane Daniels like
went down quarter one. I was like, well that's it
for my you know. So there's definitely some games I
got destroyed in. But I had a streak of like
six games in a row where I couldn't do anything,
and then I got a couple of wins and nothing.
I hated, absolutely hate fantasy football this year. It's fun
to play on ready for next year, but waking up
on that Thursday and you're seeing like one and seven
and like, I'm gonna make my roster, like do I
care to make this? And I see the projection it's
like you're projective eighty nine points project at two seventeen.
Speaker 9: You're like, Projection's gonna be pretty tricky. Okay, you don't
you don't trust them.
Speaker 2: They can't. But it's deflating when you see it like that.
I could do the best in my roster and I
won't even win. I wouldn't get enough points to win this.
Speaker 3: But you made a lead push.
Speaker 10: Though you made a lead push, it's because you you
had that losing streak, you know, Then you dig yourself
a hole and you made a little push at the end.
Speaker 2: At least if I could beat Kirking one of those times,
I would at least made it to the playoffs. Then
it would have changed it all. I would have wont it, Manny,
it would be over for you. It wouldn't happen.
Speaker 10: No, No, the story this year, like you said, last
to first, you know, I had to make that flip
that worked out perfectly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you earned it after you destroyed me in that
uh that pre final final week there the forty forty
eight points.
Speaker 3: I think you're you're you gave me a scare, man.
Speaker 10: I thought that I was in the bag and you
always you just weren't going away, you know, you're always
kicking in there.
Speaker 3: Well, seriously, you gave me a real scare.
Speaker 4: Yeah that was a tricky one, but you know what
I was in. I think it was it was you
and me really in.
Speaker 9: Uh the the the last time before.
Speaker 4: Last place last year. So the fact that we matched
making it to the top this year pre damn good.
Speaker 3: I would say he slipped around and Dalton went the
other way. Unfortunately he didn't.
Speaker 2: He paid for it. I don't know if he's joined
to night, but uh, yeah, I was. I was very
glad that the Siberian film got picked because, as I
said before, that's a film that went around in school
and it was just it was one of those like
we've told this before where it's like two girls in
one cup, the pickle video, the horse video, like all
this stuff was going around high school, and the Siberian
film is definitely one where it's like, oh, have you
seen this thing? And uh, you know, Kurt, have you
seen it?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Well, if you lose next year, I'm putting
it back in the pool. I think every year it's
not me I'm gonna put And honestly, if it was me,
you could put in the pool because I've only seen
the one time that was enough for me. It is
a god awful here.
Speaker 4: I read the Wikipedia flocks summariment that was enough.
Speaker 3: How was that?
Speaker 4: Uh it's almost unbelieve. I'm wondering about myself. How the
hell did they even put this on screen?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It it definitely feels like close to like snub Film. Currently.
I don't know if it's long. I mean to say
it's maybe two hours, but it feels it feels a
lot long.
Speaker 4: Like Faces of Death back in the day that that
was a big thing too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, aren't they making a new one or something like that.
Speaker 4: It's it's not it's not actual because faces of death
with actual like you know, deaths on film, that was
the whole point of thing. It's like, it's gonna be
like a send up of it. Uh oh yeah, those.
I saw a couple of clips of those back in
the day, and that's some hoof still haunts me to
this day sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeahs.
Speaker 10: So that's exactly why though, when you when I saw
you picked that movie and the tie was between that
and The Last Airbender, and I saw that Dalton voted
for that, so I was like, oh, yeah, we can't
let him get off that easily. He's voting for Last
Airbender either he's seen it or he's not that scared
to watch it.
Speaker 3: So I was like, we gotta we gotta give him
something more serious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a literally I feel don't know, it's
literally called us Abian film. It's a it's an hour
and forty four minutes there, Kirkland this, so I'll just
get the plot synopsis and aging porn Star needs to
participate in an art film quotitionars in order to make
a clean break from the business, only discover that he
has been drafted into making pedophilia and necrophilia themed snuff films.
And I will, I will, I'll pull up his review
because because I don't think he's joining us tonight. But
before I pull it up, Clay, how's it going, sore?
Not from your vehicle?
Speaker 6: This time?
Speaker 2: John's in his vehicle, but you're not. Usually you're there.
So how you doing.
Speaker 11: I'm at my house. Good to see you guys. Can
you hear me?
Speaker 12: Ok?
Speaker 2: We can hear it?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Pretty good? Okay, cool?
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, yeah, doing well. Glad to not be in
my car from.
Speaker 2: The Clay, what was with the letterblox change up?
Speaker 9: Too?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: Why is why is this not your profile picture of.
Speaker 11: I found it in my camera roll and thought it
was funny and weird.
Speaker 2: I just didn't know as you. I saw Kevin James
my more he literally did details said he was gonna
Watchington as a cleanser. He did watch padding to literally
there you go, but he said my fancy yeah. So
his review was my fancily punishment movie coming in the
last place. An oh boy, this was exactly that. First off,
I had a ridiculously hard time even finding this movie
to watch. I had to go to old school sketchy
free movie website just to stream it. Then tracking down
a version with English sometimes was a whole another ordeal.
So the punishment started before the movie even again, it's
basically just a full feature length porn film masquading as
a movie. There's so many grotesque and disturbing scenes that
I could barely get through it. I end up cranking
the playback speak to one point five just to power
through it. His hands on the most disturbing movie I've
ever seen, and I've seen Old Boy. The sexual violence
and incests were almost too much the stomach. I give
it a half star purely for the fact that exists
as a movie. This is the worst film I've ever watched,
and I generally don't understand the point of it at all.
We should make him rewatch and be like, yo, you
watch it one point?
Speaker 3: You reading that fast?
Speaker 2: He probably at that point he probably wasn't. He was
probably just like, let's move on, let's go through with this.
So yeah, no, I don't know who. Even though you
had to watch the Holiday special last year, Maddie, I
feel like detail probably had it worse because the Holiday
Special does feel like a black hole, but the Saberian
film is it's just there is just like a lot
of just gross stuff in it, and it's stuff that
you don't even want to think about, and it is
graphic as it is a foreign film. So I think
he got Call You for Life. Yeah, it definitely will.
I think he got it like a little bit easier.
I wonder if this guy's directed anything since then.
Speaker 10: But.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, can you read out you had the ranking?
What were the official rankings in the fantasy draft here? Yes,
this guy's only directed two things. He directed this and
then a segment of ABC of Deaths. There you go.
He is an upcoming movie called wear Out, so uh, okay,
we'll have to keep our eyes on it, and Kurtkicle
we'll review it.
Speaker 1: As in the order it's just like the final playoff bracket.
Speaker 2: But well I know in the bottom so that's okay. Actually, no, right,
detail I last meant still be detail, poor detail. He
had that that fall down?
Speaker 3: So oh wait, no it isn't got you next year?
Speaker 2: Wait, as know, I don't know what my strads is
going to be next year.
Speaker 3: I I don't know.
Speaker 2: Uh, and you know detail deserves it because he took
Josh Jacobs from me. I was going to draft him next,
and then he revealed he was on the like just
the auto draft thing, so that pissed me off even more,
even though when it worked out my I told kirkle
my my stragio, I want to have the Triny. I
was gonna have Barkley, uh, Derreck Henry and Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Really the first two wouldn't help me at all because
I don't know. King James decided to fumble lot this
year and Barkley and A. J. Brown and Hurts have
all their fucking shit going on, So I don't know
the next year other than maybe one or two players,
I have no idea what I'm doing. I might just
let the computer do for me and hope for the
best is at the bed.
Speaker 3: So what would be your prime pick if you got
to choose, like.
Speaker 2: With draft Towalian, Like, it's gonna be gonna be number
number one for sure, So I get the person I want? Hey,
yeah for sure, the Snake draft that's fine, but yeah
number one, Yeah I got, And I'm gonna I'm gonna
try to trade Sam Darnold to Kirklin every week. If
I got with Brady, so Clay, Clay and man amature's
on my background, I said, I'm not a savant, like yeah,
I like it.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 9: What was that ranking?
Speaker 1: Hair is crazy? Yeah, I'll start at the bottom and
then uh yeah, work up. So at the bottom we
got Detoll Yeah, three and eleven was his final score.
Not so great. We have Travis four and ten a
little bit better. Then we got myself who finished six
and eight on the year, so not positive. And then
we got Clay eight and six, and then we got
John eight and six. We got Maddie eight and six.
Of course he's the one that ended up winning. This
is like the final of the end of the season ranking.
So you went into the playoffs and third, congratulations to you, sir,
and super bad Mike nine and five second place, and
then Sam ten and four finished the season number one,
but fortunately couldn't take down Maddie.
Speaker 3: Sam was a beast man.
Speaker 10: Sam's team was scary, and then just clean down Under
please the Classic with all the Lions players. So if
the Lions pop off, you're getting you're getting belted that week.
Speaker 1: That's why I did so bad because I took all
Minnesota players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Claire got to ask you, what's your uh, what's
your stats?
Speaker 6: Right now?
Speaker 2: I know you're a Lions fan for life, but like,
where where's your heart right now? Last year you had
that terrible I.
Speaker 13: Thought you were shaking a different kind of status and
it was gonna be like now, if you want to.
Speaker 2: Talk about that, you can't.
Speaker 3: But first.
Speaker 2: Breaking playoff game and now this year to go to
the playoffs, So what do you expect last year?
Speaker 13: I was, I was gonna say I was pretty I
was pretty bummed out offensive coordinator pick that we had,
Like it seemed like kind of a budget pick, like like, oh,
we don't want to spend money, We're just gonna go
after this random Arizona Cardinals offensive offensive coordinator.
Speaker 11: But there's there's all kinds of weird.
Speaker 13: Stuff since then, Like apparently this guy was in Ben
Johnson's wedding and their their buddies from way back when,
didn't U.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so apparently they're what's weird about that he just
went to a wedding the.
Speaker 13: Job man, Right, this is weird that we that we
went after some guy who was in Ben Johnson's wedding.
Speaker 2: Right, Football experience.
Speaker 11: I'd love to be a fly on the wall for
that wedding and know like how close they are. And
I don't know, I'd love to know the.
Speaker 13: Inside story on all this. But in terms of in
terms of I mean, I'm trying to be optimistic. I
like that Ben, the fact that he's buddies with Ben Johnson,
the fact that he's young, Like Ben Johnson was a
nobody when we got him. This guy's basically a nobody.
And I don't know, I mean, it could turn out
that he's the next Ben Johnson.
Speaker 11: I have no idea.
Speaker 13: It's it's come to light now with Ben Johnson doing
so well with the Bears that you know, he was
a big, big part of the Lion's success. So we'll see,
I think fantasy wise, for the next year. Can commenting
on me grabbing all the Lions players, I feel like
it's really hard to and I don't think I've screwed
myself over by saying this, Like it's hard to turn
down taking Aman Ross Saint Brown as a as an
really early fantasy pick. Like that guy's mister consistency, it's insane,
Like he plays through injuries, he always even if he
starts off a game slow, he comes through with something
later in the game.
Speaker 11: There are very few times where he snubs you. So
I don't know.
Speaker 13: I'm trying to stay optimistic about next year. We need
to reload on our O line and D line in
the big time, and we need to not catch the
injury bug as much.
Speaker 11: We'll see what happens.
Speaker 10: But you're skeptical about the new the new OC I
what But like everything you just listed is like they're
just trying to replicate another Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3: So maybe that's that's the right way to just take it.
Speaker 1: Party that the next guy.
Speaker 3: Nobody, you know.
Speaker 10: So it's like it sounds like they're they're trying to
just recreate that in the lab. I don't know if
that's good, But.
Speaker 11: Right I don't either. It could it could burst into flames.
Speaker 13: But I I'm trying to be optimistic because like Ben
Johnson was a nobody when we got him, So it's
kind of unfair for me to say, like, oh, this
is a budget pick some nobody offensive coordinator I've never
heard of out of Arizona.
Speaker 11: Like he's gonna suck. No, we'll see. I'll give him
a chance.
Speaker 10: So and while we're on the lions quickly before we
move on, I have to put you on the spots
because I asked a few of these guys what's their
top five qbs in the NFC, and a couple of
them had golf in there.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you you would probably lean that way too.
Speaker 10: But I told him, I'm like, I didn't hate any
of the lists. I just said I don't know if
I would to have golf in there.
Speaker 2: So he didn't mind lest either. I think was the
best one.
Speaker 4: It's just it's just really tough golf GoF.
Speaker 13: I think like, if you put him in his element,
is definitely a top five QB. But then he has
these like really really really volatile strengths and weaknesses, Like
he has to be in the dome.
Speaker 11: He can't be outside with his little gloves. You don't
want him outside.
Speaker 9: A little glove.
Speaker 11: If at all possible.
Speaker 13: If you need to run the ball well that way
you can set him up in play action. He is
he's the best quarterback in the NFL if he has
good play action going. If your running game is strong
that game and you set him up with play action.
Speaker 11: Like he's just the king of that. But he has
these rules like.
Speaker 13: Like you gotta have a you gotta have a decent
pocket because he.
Speaker 11: Can't get outside of it.
Speaker 13: You know, He's just he's extremely specific and if you
figure out all those things, I think he's a top
three quarterback, top two, top one in the NFL. But
it's talent and he has his weaknesses. I don't know.
Speaker 10: As long as he's not rocking the long sleeves and
the gloves, then you know you're cooked, you know.
Speaker 4: But yeah, his his little gloves or his weakness.
Speaker 2: I wish you well. I stual, don't wish you luck.
I hope you guys go. I hope you and Kirklan
both go oh in sixteen oh and seventeen and uh,
same to you, sir. I hope next year Packers get
to play a team that has an injured quarterback in
the NFC Championship game. That would have been for the
taking if they would have done that. I would have
loved to see what would have happened if bow Nix
was there, and I would have been a whole different
game in Brockless and Seahawks. You know that would have
been that would have been very I I'll see, I
think much closer yeah, and the Super Bowl, like I like,
i'll see you know, I'm sorry, detail, but like I
enjoy anytime the Patriots are getting dogged on. So I
I enjoyed the Super Bowl. Though it wasn't a close game.
It just never felt like that was gonna be. I
just would have been shocked once we were watching the
game that if the Patriots were actually gonna pull it off.
It just never felt like that. It just felt like, Okay,
Seahawks gonna strike. And that's why I said, I thought
it was either gonna be a hot start hot and
then what was the final score? Was like twenty eight
to seven or something like that or thirty something seven
they got yeah, twenty oh yeah, yeah it was the sane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't finish.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, not the most exciting game, but we'll
see for next year, there's gonna be lots of interesting storylines.
Speaker 9: So literally every single playoff game was more exciting than
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yes, even games leading up to it, like that the
Raven Steelers game to get into the like that last
quarter when Rogers and Lamar were just bombing it back
and forth, back and forth, like that was the Super
Bowl right there.
Speaker 1: You know, twenty nine thirteen, that was the final.
Speaker 2: There you go, twenty nine thirteen. Okay, it felt it
felt like forty eight to three or something.
Speaker 3: That score doesn't do a justice. Yeah it wasn't.
Speaker 1: That seems closer than an she was like most field
goals made, right, they.
Speaker 2: Made history five? Yeah, yeah, he broke kish Man. There
are a lot of history they broke rough. I think
they said, like, even though Drake May didn't have the
grace game, you had the most like yards in a
single quarter in the playoffs, Like the postseason you threw
for two hundred and forty five yards in just a
fourth quarter, and then you had the kicker. But then
you also had Drake May break history with the most
sacks and postseason history at twenty one.
Speaker 6: So don donner Brook a record too.
Speaker 8: He was the only quarterback in the playoffs did not
have a turnover, I think since Drew Brees.
Speaker 2: Wo look at that. Yeah, and then seeing the whole season,
the seahows didn't turn over the postseason, so you know,
boring game, but lots of lots of history made there
and stuff. So yeah, we'll see what happens with Patrios
Drinke May again. I think Patriots are owed like thirty
years of just nothing like they like, what I would
like is one day to someone like Snap and like
what's happening with the Jets. Happened for Patriots for like
seventy years and then the Jets go on to become
like this dynasty or whatnot. You know, it's like you
you guys had the Brady and Belichick, you had all
those years, you had all the bows. Yeah, sure there's
some machines. Well evolve too, so you know there's some
asterixs there, but like you got those championships, just enjoying,
you know, take a break and let's here long term prediction.
They I can't remember the stat but I think it's
been like I think, what's whatever? Was it Broncos? Because
I thought that sounds it's been Patriots and Chiefs for
how many long time? Was the Broncos the last AFC
team that wasn't those two in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: Must have been well, Bengals, Bengal Bengals.
Speaker 2: A Bengals, that was the last one, right, So it's
like in that amount of time, like those only two
and yeah, let's hope, uh, let's hope there's some fresh
blood there and ain't getting to be the Bills and
Josh Allen, I don't know what they're doing. That organization's cooked,
that head coach is gonna be cooked. Like, as a
Phils fan, that press conference was wild to watch, just
throwing people under the bus. You got these rumors and
Josh Allen's apparently texting people like this isn't good and
do't like what's happening. Like I could see Josh Allen
not be a bill in the next three years and
that's been them. I'll give them nine nine, the Vikings
gonna Yeah, I get a Viking jersey from a Stime
film a new Child. Yeah, but yeah, we'll go to
Maddie first, So we will u because we'll go to
his film first. So, Maddie, you'd picked the Prestige. This
This worried me a little bit because you'd brought up
a good point of who we're talking about on after
nine We're like, oh, Clay seemed like this, but then
you looked at their review and it was like seven
years old that so like, oh, oh Clay with new eyes.
But Maddy, I'll ask you first, why did you pick
the Prestige? And Austin what are your thoughts on the prestige.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was an easy pick for me. Like I'd
written it in the discord a little description. Basically, it's
a It's a movie that ever since I saw it,
I've seen it in theaters when I came out with
my dad. I still remember watching it that night and
I was blown away. It's always been basically the movie
I would list all those years when someone would ask me,
what's your favorite movie? For some reason, that's always the
movie that I that I would point out, and you know,
looking back to in a retrospect that I feel like
I enjoyed so much more too, just knowing it's Nolan
and what Nolan became after that too, you know, yeah,
just done. Batman begins at the time. So even seeing
Bail in both movies back to back, like he blew
up in my mind as well. And looking back, you know,
you have Jackman in there. I know, Travis, You've listed
it multiple You've said it multiple times that you wish
we'd get Jackman back.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know why I wonder. There's part
of me because I feel i'd have to look. But
if I guess, has he worked with Guy Pierce again
I don't think so, right, So no guy appears to
me and those two like like, but Gino, that's kind
of different because he didn't even think that's a remake
of a movie. That just felt like that was he
was a director trying to get a gig at that point.
I feel like with Guy Piers saying thing it's like
an indie movie, the Jackman thing, I wonder if that
was a WB like, we'd really like you to use
like Hugh Jackman as the lead of this movie, not
like he was like a post too. But we hear
that happens all the time where a studio is kind
of like we would like it if you, like, we're
really close with Robert pass and like we work with
him all the time. You should take a look at him, right,
So I just wonder because and even some scar Jos
kind of like that too. I just feel like, you
look at all his other movies, He's worked with almost
everyone again, and I guess same thing, not Leo, but Leo,
Like Leo's pretty like he doesn't do that many movies,
so that one is not as unbelievable to me. And
I also feel like him and Leo could work together again,
but Jack when I just don't know why, and I
maybe it's a hot take. I feel like I know
Mike's probably gonna go I'm not sure, Mike, what is
your What do you think is the best FW Jackman
performance you've ever seen? Oh? Leamy's That's what I was
gonna say. Yeah, I would say that, Yeah, And I
could argue. For me, it's either Logan or it's this.
These are the two always go back and forth. And
I love him in this movie. I thought Nolan's got
some stuff out of him, and the fact they've never
done like not even just like a supporting character. He
could pop up Oppenheimer's like a teacher.
Speaker 4: You imagine if we would have gotten him as Odysseus
in the Odyssey that we haven't seen the Odyssey all
saying oh, that could have been amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm curious about Damon version.
Speaker 11: He's doing his version of that with that weird rob
the Death.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't laugh, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be
good on tailor on you. I like direct, I like
the director. I'll be there buying a ticket unless it's
like I alone show me. It's gonna be like those
two be Southern Malawney Trump documentary in Colonne, sitting in
the back alone like I probably will be alone, but
uh yeah, I hope you jacking on him work together
again one day.
Speaker 3: So he's so good in this. I love it.
Speaker 10: I love this, Like you said, it's even for myself.
I think it's it's up there for my favorite performance
of his. And I feel like we don't see we
don't see him play these type of characters a ton either,
you know, for the for the most part throughout his career,
unless you're I know me being like Peter Pan, he
played a villain once more of a villainous role.
Speaker 3: I've never I never watched him not.
Speaker 2: Gonna kick Hook, We're not gonna know he plays like
the Pirate before Hook.
Speaker 3: I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1: I never see that's claw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know I know who he is. All
I know is they sing like a like a old
age version of Team teen Spirit in that and apparently
it's really bad. Nice. There's a you know, I'll pull
up before this cast that one. They're like they're like
doing like instrumental Jackman's like it's one of those like
I don't know who they were making that movie for
what's her name? Who's Rooney? Mar is playing a Native American,
So it's just like a lot of bad things. She's
playing tiger Rudey Ma, who might be one of the
whitest women plant her and I say it's massive. Then
I had a massive crushing her. After the nightmre El
Street remake, I was like, Rudey's my girl, but her
as a Native American, I think we're gonna striking really
far right on this one. Like I don't know so,
but how often you watch this movie, Maddie, Like every
couple of years or year I've watched it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point I kind of lost count how
much how often I've seen it. I used to have
the DVD of it. It was it was full pin man.
I loved it.
Speaker 10: It's it's so good and I feel like I enjoy it.
A lot of Noldan's movies, Honestly, they hits me that
way that I just the age like five and Wine.
You know, the more I watch them, I just, uh,
so your favorite of his, it's up there, and it
might it's probably between this and this and Oppenheimer. Honestly, yeah,
I know, I know you didn't love Oppenheimer, but it's
it's up there for me for sure. So good Man,
it's just Jackman and Bail like doing a master class.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Bail Bail there too, Michaels.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Michael Kaine's awesome. And this also the fable thing
is Scargo's accent.
Speaker 2: Sorry, yes, oh yes, I think Scargo can be a
great actress. I don't think it's here. I know there's
not much for the character to go on, and I'm
not trying to be mean. I just feel like Rebecca
Holmes movie like run circles around her, but even that
she gets more meat. Right, there's like a child and
there's divorce, Like there's where she's just playing the you're
the lust, you're the seductors. Right, You're gonna look hot,
both guys gonna fall in love with you, the audience
gonna fall in love with you. But like, it's not
her one of her best roles, i'd say out there.
So Burkaine, as far as him an inception, I'm trying
to think, like, maybe other than Alford, I think this
might be my favorite role that he's in here, because
he's barely an Interstellar. And then I felt like I
think he's the heart of the movie in this I
absolutely yes. I mean he gets the best speech too
at the beginning, in the end to close it off.
Oh yeah, he's barely inception. He just gets Matt Leo
once and then he has his kids. He what is
he in Dunkirk? Is he in Dunkirk? Is that when
it stopped?
Speaker 3: Interstellar? Interstellar? Yes he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an halfway's dad. He's the one that sends
him up. He's the one that he knows Earth is dying.
But he didn't he didn't tell anybody. He just sends
in his face.
Speaker 1: He don't admit he doesn't know how to do the bath.
Speaker 2: Problem A good luck, good luck out there, because the
only the only other person that does know is Matt
dam remember mister doctor Man or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: He knew that.
Speaker 2: They're the only two that knew.
Speaker 1: So think of your children.
Speaker 2: Look at the look at their eyes in your dark clothes.
Speaker 10: I do want to shout out quickly, and I'm very
curious to hear obviously what you guys think.
Speaker 3: You guys thought of it. My favorite scenes are there.
Speaker 10: There's a ton but the two that always I'd always
remember is Jackman when he asks him when not did
you tie?
Speaker 3: I love that scene, Oh yeah is so good and
he's just saying like, you know how don't you know?
Speaker 10: He starts yelling, and then the bail at the dinner
when he goes the secrets are my life. But that
whole the whole scene at the dinner, at the table,
that performance is so good because there's just there's like
two three layers to it.
Speaker 3: To the character that he's that he's portraying. So yeah,
which is so good.
Speaker 2: Which also in that scene, he that that version of
Bail might legit not know which for no, he tied,
because he might be asking the wrong guy, Like I
don't I don't know, man, I don't. I don't know
what my brother was up to that day.
Speaker 11: You know, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that happens multiple times movies now, granted I do.
And this is where I'm not sure if some of
you will come out it is. I think if you
look at it too hard, it does start to break
because like all you do is the other brother be like, hey,
what not do you tye? Oh? I tend to okay,
I know there there's tons of stuff that happens like
even bail, like getting at Rebecca Hall's house and he's like,
I'll see Larry just pops up in her house.
Speaker 10: Like that's the one scene that always does not doesn't
bother me. But that's see, I'm always like, how how.
Speaker 6: Does this.
Speaker 1: Around the trick?
Speaker 2: How do we know? He's like to say, what awful?
I never want to see you again. He's like like
one please, or like I know there's probably some trickery,
but like when he gets the chains around the guards,
it's like, all right, there's some stuff. But then at
the end, like Magic Man, but at the end it's
like he's still sucking cloning people in this movie. So
it's like I don't know, like what what is happening?
So I will bring in Sam, Who's can I believe
you see your call from a Starbucks?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Can you hear me? We can hear yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's apologize Back of Noise.
Speaker 2: Watch it's.
Speaker 3: Exciting, very good battle. Had a good battle man, Thank
you no.
Speaker 7: Really you smashing.
Speaker 2: And John, I know you got to go like in
the next fifty or twenty. So when you do, let
me know, because then I can let you rattle off.
Is it so true? You're gonna go next twenty or so.
Speaker 8: Yes, I'm gonna have to start driving in a few minutes.
I'll still stay on while I'm driving, but then I have.
Speaker 2: To Okay, Oh no, I'll throw to you because I
give us your thoughts because you're leaving next week. Give
us your thoughts on all three of these ones you watch,
and then we'll get back to Prestige. But just so
we can get your thoughts on all three before you
got a piece off here.
Speaker 8: I'll thought with Prestige, I love to pick. This is
actually my third time watching it. This movie is what
made me a huge fan of Christian Bale. So I
saw him in American Psycho Batman, and this is what
really gave me the idea that he has such a
big range.
Speaker 6: So I loved him in this.
Speaker 8: I was already a huge, huge Jackman fan, so I
just furthered my popularity with him. But both of those
actors are definitely my top ten growing up. I think
the cast was ten out of ten. Obviously, Nolan is
one of my favorite. He's probably my top three directors,
with Scorsese and Tarantino. I probably have him seconds. I
think to me, if Tarantino was my my favorite. But
I loved the movie, love the storyline, replacements. I've seen
a million times. I probably haven't seen it in like
ten years, but it's such a fun, cheesy movie. Watching
it as a grown adult realized how cheesy it actually is.
I forgot who said in the chat it felt like
such a two thousands movie, And I got that within
the first fifteen seconds with like the with the music
going and there was a lot of like music montages
with these weird facial expressions, and I laughed.
Speaker 6: I couldn't stop laughing at the scene.
Speaker 8: Where they were in the bar and they kiss for
the first time and they're like just staring at each other.
Speaker 2: When closed the door, he literally they had the shot
of him turning around three times. It was he closed
if he looks over and then goes back to her
and it goes back to him. He's like they forgot
that they already turned him. He should get him and
he's like fully not facing her at one point. Then
at times he keeps turning like it's brutal, but and the.
Speaker 6: Way she's looking at him is like this sad puppy.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 6: It was just really awkward.
Speaker 2: It was it was hysterical, completely forgives him later on
for standing hi out, No no reason why she's crying
the next time she sees him, like you're back.
Speaker 6: You're back because he didn't go attend to date. But yeah,
it was really funny. But great movie. And and Tusk
I've never heard of, never.
Speaker 9: Seen it before.
Speaker 1: Great Canadian flick man.
Speaker 6: So I saw the replacements.
Speaker 8: Had a lot of fun. It was such an easy walk.
Then I put on Tusk and the first half I'm laughing.
You know, I forgot to act his name, but you
know he was mixing a lot. Yeah, just a long
and and then you know he's having a conversation with
the old man and then they keep talking about this
fucking walrus.
Speaker 2: That scene goes on forever too. I only seen this
movie twice. I did not remember this that. I look
like this has been off for like fifty he it's
weird because Kevin Smith says, He's like, oh, I love
to cut so much that there should have been at
least I'll say, be nicely five minutes cut from that,
like that scene alone. But that seemed agreed.
Speaker 9: That scene.
Speaker 8: I shut filled it halfway through and I'm like, oh
my god, there's fifty more minutes, like what are they
gonna do?
Speaker 6: And and when he became the wall, I couldn't believe
it what I see. I have to like pause it
a few times. I was so overwhelmed. After watching the
replacements and then going to Tusk, it was. It was
a wild ride. I I enjoyed it. The only thing
that was that was kind of annoying was just justin
long like yelling for thirty minutes, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he has no tongue anymore, and then you
got Johnty Debt with his fucking accent, the whole thing
back like and all the giant dep stuff. Just feels like, yeah,
we don't know what to do for half an hour,
just gonna have him coming here and be fun for
a little bit.
Speaker 9: Again, Mike gee lap point to get back.
Speaker 2: I will get to him later, believe you means, And
he's in yoga hoss is. I guess after they did
TUSS because I was listening to podcast at this point
joined Depp called comes from after He's like, I can't
stop doing the acts and like we got I gotta
do this role again, and they were supposedly I don't
think it's gonna happen now because these films bombed so hard,
he was gonna make Moose Jaws. He wanted to remake Jaws,
but just with a moose, like he said, shot for
sawt but with a moose, which probably financially good thing
he didn't. And I don't know because I wonder if
he was gonna put John Depp in the Brody roll.
I feel like he might have, so he could have.
That could have been one of the most disastrous things
the world has been spared. Yeah, I said, I think
he still wants to make it. One day. I think
I bet before he dies he's gonna make Moose Jaws.
But I don't know what John anymore?
Speaker 6: Who knows?
Speaker 2: So Yeah, So that that's quite a That's quite a
watch that you had there.
Speaker 13: It is.
Speaker 8: I have justin Long's Water's face like like embedded in
my brain, Like I feel like I'll never forget that.
Speaker 2: For I were you were you now after that?
Speaker 9: Would you?
Speaker 2: Were you happy with the replacements Tusk or would you
have swapped him?
Speaker 6: I absolutely would have swapped it first and then replacements.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have before I have all I got
the two scenes, but I got the one that John
was talking about because yeah, I had a problem with
this too. So this is the kiss scene, and we'll
track how much he turns here. So here you go.
So he's going, he's walking right, Okay, he stops. It's
been so okay.
Speaker 1: Look he's like, yeah, that's when you have John Mannon
coming in too.
Speaker 2: She's like, he's gotta go for it. He's turned again.
Speaker 3: Look at why did he turn again? His book?
Speaker 4: She didn't move.
Speaker 2: Hang on, let's she did? Like he turned, he turns
right here he's readjusting a little bit more. It happens again.
Speaker 9: Song was expensive. They played the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Look he was turned fully face. They turned three times.
He started the scene facing her. But yeah, oh and
then yeah, the John Man like he's going for it.
He feels hot.
Speaker 6: I want you to give him back of the book.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, so.
Speaker 2: Gosh, but where's the schools? I can't fine? Of course
Jean Man has one thing that one other thing to say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was Uh, I didn't mind it.
Speaker 2: I will reveal my cards. I have never seen that
movie until a couple of days ago.
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what to pick. I didn't have to pick.
Emily since we started dating. Has been bugging me for
years years to watch the replacement, and I was like,
you know what football movie, Let's finally do it for
all my relationship. She fucking hates the Sam Raimie to
McGuire Spider Man. She's like, these are so cheesy on
how you watch? Shees after this when we loft her,
I said, you can never bug me about those ever again.
She's like, oh, this is crazy, Like, no, maybe you
saw this when you were like ten to twelve. I like,
I didn't hate the movie, but it's like a I'm
rated on letterbox. It's a solid three stars. I hate
going I think, yeah, that was you. That's okay. Yeah,
I hate like Assaulid three stars. Unless Anna's watched I
will never watch this movie ever again. So that's not
I couldn't wait. And she's like, oh my god, you're
making them watch them all. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna
wait to see because and now as I've watched the movie,
like oh my god, these guys think that I fucking
love this movie or something like that, like this is
a twist.
Speaker 9: I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, this is one of Trasha's favorites from
my kids. No, never seen this movie before in my life,
and like other than Reese Iphens, I don't think I
laughed at anything. That's like Favra was okay, Kean who
was like he was just living off that Matrix money.
He was checked, he was waiting for reloaded, like he's
just like yeah, like no whatever, I can't believe they
got Hackman to do this, Like it's just so it
was like a fought. It feels very much like a
two thousand. It's crazy because like the next like like
you said, the year before you got Matrix, the year
after this got Fellowship the Ring. When I think about
it's like, man, the late ninety two thousands, you had
this almost perfect bounce of still practical stuff like David
Joneston and like the CGA that comes in like you
have such a good bounce where now there's too much.
But then if for on the two thousands, you got
a lot of shit like this, it's just like super
generic and sports like. So yeah, I apologize if anyone
really disliked it. Not my fault. I have never seen
this movie and I probably will never watch it again.
Speaker 10: So you got lucky because a few of us had
seen it. We were like, nice, we're gonna watch We're
gonna watch this.
Speaker 4: I thought I missed out on this giant could class
like everyone was hitting, and I'm like, I've never heard
this movie in my life.
Speaker 9: I guess I watched it.
Speaker 2: It's just this generic, like like you said, soundtrack driven.
There's a couple of fun performances in there, I guess,
but like and and then. And that led me to
today because of recypherents I started. I'm only halfway through
Little Nikki. Never watch a Little Nikki. If you've seen
that movie, I have seen it in like fifteen twenty years.
It's not good and I liked it as a child.
Not a good movie. It's don't go, don't revisit it,
leave it where it is, leave it in the past,
let it die.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 5: So, man, I didn't watch your I didn't watch your
advicements because I'm terrible with discord.
Speaker 7: So so I miss no Now that, now that you
show me that, I reckon. I saw that at the cinemas.
I'm pretty sure I did. I remember my dad dropping
me in a friend off to watch it because we're like.
Speaker 5: Football, this is gonna be so cool and then we
watched it all like probably a girl here instead of
gone like.
Speaker 2: That because it's not like and like, there's so many
rules that don't make sense. I bug I guess saying
that I bug me so much. Where they got a
penalty and Keanu would run over time out tim they
took the kick off and he ran over and took
a time out. That's not how rules work here. And
then sometimes like some teams had names and then San
Diego was just SD no team name whatsoever. Sometimes you
didn't see the coaches. It's very bare bones. Again, I
think Geneackman must have just been looking for a Pacheck.
I don't know how they got him into that, but
like not like a football s movie. But uh, we'll
turn back that second. We did start with the prestige, Sam,
what did you What did you think of the prestige?
Have you seen that before? If you saw your thoughts
on it, et cetera. Where you want me to go
to someone else? You're can you hear, Sam, I'm gonna
go to Clay. I don't know he's watching. He started
the replacement now he started it.
Speaker 11: But you said, you said you want to go to
the prestige.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd hear now, Sam, Yeah, I think you're you're
cutting in. I think that's what it. Yeah, so yeah,
we'll go back to the Prestige because we rant on
the replacements with John the Yeah, Prestige. So Clay, we
had done some slew thing on your letterbox account to
see that it had been a minute since you had
seen it. So that's why we were like, okay, on's
again to think in present day, and I was like,
I se you didn't you didn't rate it yet. I
just saw you did the rewatch he's with a little.
Speaker 11: So yeah, wanted to. I wanted to build the suspense.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I I truth be told. I would say
like middle school, when I really got into watching movies,
it was like Christopher.
Speaker 13: Nolan was kind of a guy like I would I
would watch his movie Dark.
Speaker 11: Night and Prestige in inception.
Speaker 13: I would watch over and over and over again, and
then I think my teeth changed. I don't know, maybe
like coming out of high school, I'm like, Okay, action
movies are my thing, and that's what I think Christopher
Nolan's weaknesses.
Speaker 2: Oh no, this is where this guy's one Helm Stephen
honestly and I keep telling him it's not happening, and
get ready for those close up no cuts man, getting ready.
Speaker 13: Brother, I'm really nervous, but I will say prestige holds up.
I thought for me, like they slap a star rating
on there, nine out of ten.
Speaker 11: I thought. I thought it was like like it reminded me.
Speaker 13: It reminded me how much range Christian Bale has, like
like take this versus Ford versus Ferrari, versus American psycho,
versus Batman versus his kid performance.
Speaker 11: And I love Spielberg.
Speaker 2: So Brandon who Brando?
Speaker 5: Who is?
Speaker 13: What?
Speaker 9: I say?
Speaker 2: You know, like I know everyone says brand or day Lewis.
Speaker 13: Brands Yeah, bail Is Bail's up there? What's the Empire
of the Sun? Like in every decade he has like
awesome performance. This is totally different. He's he's so chameleonic
to steal that word that everybody over uses, but like
he fits that Bill.
Speaker 11: Like that is an awesome performance. And then Travis, you
were saying earlier, like does he uh?
Speaker 2: Was this was?
Speaker 12: It?
Speaker 11: Was it mandated by the studio? Uh to have something
about something about Jackman?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: I just thought Jackman because they never worked together and
Jackman was obviously hot because of X Men, right, So
just I feel like almost all these actors like Inception
and on you see uh Nolan work with him again,
which is funny. He hasn't worked with Bail since Rise
is either, right, Like, I've been waiting for that, Like
I don't know why. Maybe they got sick of each
other after the four movies, but like I've been waiting
for them to. I thought, I really thought, honestly, there's
gonna be a chance Bail was gonna be in that
when he's getting so many people, and it feels like
that's not a thing anymore now. I hope I'm wrong,
but did uh?
Speaker 13: So My thought is like, did they force did they
force Jackman to do his American accent?
Speaker 11: There?
Speaker 13: Do an American accent in it post Wolverine because he's
British right in real life, Australian, Australian sorry.
Speaker 9: National treasure.
Speaker 2: No matter what, he's no matter what, he's definitely not American.
Speaker 3: He's just.
Speaker 11: Don't tell him, don't tell him, don't tell him. I knew,
I knew he wasn't American. I'm like, I'm like, this
just seems a little off, But anyway, I think he's
awesome in it.
Speaker 13: I love how I love the twist of like kind
of putting him is a little bit of a hero
at the beginning and then shifting him to a big
time dyllain as the movie goes on. And I love
like movies magic in real life, if you go to
a magic show, that's clear like how did they do that?
Speaker 11: In a movie, it's a little more like, Okay, you've
got cameras everywhere, obviously it's easy to fake magic. So
then let's take it up a notch. Let's create this
cloning machine. And I don't think any of it is
over explained, which I like. Like in some of Nolan's
future movies, I think things are.
Speaker 13: A little over explained, and it bothers me, and I
thought this was just the right amount of explanation on everything.
I thought the dialogue was super unpretentious, like I think
of other just in the last year, and or bothers
me because I don't like the dialogue.
Speaker 11: I'm like, I like the premise a lot, but the
dialogue pisses me off.
Speaker 13: And I think I think with prestige, it's like, not
only do I like the premise, but I think the
dialogue is just pretty straightforward and like it fits and
it's the movie is propulsive, it doesn't slow down and
you don't get bogged down, and like he never he
never adds a million metaphors to his dialogue, which I
think of other talkie dramas like this, and in the
last year we watched like an Alien Earth.
Speaker 11: Alien Earth has so many.
Speaker 13: Metaphors conversation someone, It is so pretentious and it pisses
me off so much, and Nolan in The Prestige does
not do that at all. I don't think he does metaphors. Well,
he does do metaphors. I feel like sometimes like that
Teaches thing in Dark Knight.
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, it's just Michael Kaine. It's Michael Caine,
you know.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he does even in Prestige. Maybe he speaks in
them a little bit.
Speaker 3: But anyway, dialogue moments. What are some memorial memorable dialogue
moments for you?
Speaker 12: Like you said, like you said, the the part where
Christian Bale uh and Olivia or no, Olivia's across your hands,
Rebecca Hall, like they have all of their conversations I
think are really.
Speaker 2: Not today that's a brutal delivery by him. Not today.
It's like, oh my god, it's it's so damn especially
because they that that's like to your point, Clay, I
feel like they established it early in the movie, but
it doesn't feel like it's over, like it's hitting you
in the head. It's just like in aside that Rebecca
Hall says, like all some days you love me and
some days you don't. It's not like sometimes, like she stands,
I would make like a proclamation of like right, why
don't you love me? Like it's just like it it
works so good, and like it continues to come out
throughout and that's uh, that's that's some great stuff there.
Speaker 3: The movie.
Speaker 13: It reminds me most of especially with the family drama
of it and uh and just like the big finale
where you figure out the cloning is going on because
it's got a sci fi element.
Speaker 11: It's a family drama kind of with some some uh
sci fi baked in at the end and like this
big this is this big.
Speaker 13: Event that's going on at the Aandy, You're like, holy shit,
they've been cloning this entire time. Remind me of A
Close Encounters, which is one of my favorite movies. And
it's like this guy these guy in this movie it's
two guys and Close Encounters. It's one guy slowly losing
their minds, completely disintegrating their family unit, all in pursuit
of this thing they're obsessed with.
Speaker 11: And I, yeah, I think like that that got me.
Speaker 13: I was like, man, this is this is exactly what
I want out of a movie. These guys striving for
for these big, big ideas and you know, big spectacles
like Close Encounters, which just one of my favorite movies.
And yeah, if you can have all this, all this
really really good dialogue surrounding that, and then a big
finale where you're like, holy shit, that's a recipe for.
Speaker 11: Me to like your movie. No no action, So I
can't complain about no One.
Speaker 2: There a lot of stuff they really like Were you
Find without Jackman fell in the Tank? Were you Find
with that? It's such a great opening too, right, And
it's it's so like the way they opal Jackman dying,
and I love the dual journals and then that reveal.
It's fun when you're talking about accent, So when he
puts on that like the Lord Colbal accent, like his
second accent, that's something to where it's like I don't
know that choice was maybe like he's like, I don't
know Joe secret anymore. It's like why are you Like
I get he's I get he's trying to hide his identity,
but he doesn't have to de bail like Bill knows
who his but he's just like, but mine's bat Honey's.
He has like this peppy old pew sort of like.
Speaker 11: Think about him, you grew a mustache.
Speaker 2: And it's not like they killed him like early on
like they at one point miay, it's like you're the
biggest act in London, not just magician acts. It's like
I imagine a few it was I get why you
went there as like an enemy but felt very risky
and broad daylight to be there with the tricks with
his daughter. Like there's stuff like for me, this is
a ten out to ten movie, but there is stuff
if I were to break it down, there's little stuff
like that where it's like, yeah, you could easily chip
away at certain things that just just don't work with
multiple dynamics of the twins and that type of stuff.
But it's just I think I'm with you, Clay, where
it's like it's two great characters and it's them constantly
switching back forth, even though Michael Kaine right, like he
has ties of Christian Bale's character from Like a Teenager.
But then most of the movie we seem kind of
sighed with Jackman because he's like the better guy at
that point until he's not. My I think, I don't
know if it's my favorite scene the movie, but my
probably favorite scene is when he finds the diary jack
Win's Scars, Like, oh when he fake she fakeally gives
it to him, right, like pretending that she stole it,
and he's like, all secrets are right here, and you know,
he's like, oh what about he's giving all this scenarios,
what he's gonna do with this, blah blah blah, and
scarg Go's like, oh, well, what about your wife? And
he's like, Oh, I don't care about my wife. I
care about secret. And they just hang on the scene
for like fifteen seconds and they're just both silent, because
I love that's the moment you see Jackman's characters like
he's he's flipped over, he's gone because before he won't
even change his bad magician name because that's what his
wife gave him, right, But in this he his wife
is the firstest thing from his mind because he has
his diary and that really I love to see it
there and then and that's when yeah, and again, you
just you just let them hang out there for a bit,
You wait a second, and then you move on.
Speaker 3: And there's just that that line delivery. You found that
that line delivery when he says it is.
Speaker 2: So yes, it's just everything is like he seems so determined,
and it seems like he right away like he didn't
even regret it, but he just knows how bad that sounds. Like,
oh man, he said that, so yeah.
Speaker 13: Would not would you not read the end of the
diary first? Like where He's like, yeah, I've been writing
to you.
Speaker 11: I would read the last page first.
Speaker 2: Jackman's like, cut her. We have a journey in front
of us for going to America.
Speaker 11: You spent no, maybe maybe read it all before you buy.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, I spent a fortune over here, Like yeah,
he spends all this money and luckily like well, I
don't know if it worked out for him, but at
the time worked out. But yeah, he's there in America
reading this journal feeling like the biggest at least. Bale's
like he's in prison, he's going nowhere. This doesn't even
matter if he reads it at the end, right, But
like Jackman spends all this money, which I do like
to reveal, there's multiple things in the beginning the movie
that hints that he's very well off and whatnot. So
I like that isn't just because in fact, the first
time I saw as a kid, I was like, why
is he just got the mustache?
Speaker 9: Where?
Speaker 2: Like, how's he got all this money? But they do
establish he's from this family. It's kind of like the
black sheep of it. But I guess he just accepted
his his lineage again when he faked his death.
Speaker 13: You know, saying and then I'm gonna shut up, is
like how uh how you were commenting on Scarlett jwayats doing.
Speaker 11: The British accent.
Speaker 13: I think I think it needs to be more acceptable
that that Americans do British accents England so many people
over here to do American accents. Like I think it's
one of my favorite movies the last couple of years
that uh ju Lawn Nicholas Hold, what's that police movie?
Speaker 3: Or Order the Order?
Speaker 13: Yeah, like those are two British guys playing two very
American guys. We do that so often we never send
them the other way that I.
Speaker 10: Don't mind that she's doing it though she's I didn't
think the accent was very good.
Speaker 11: I was fine with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just prepping us for your honesty complaints that
no one's gonna be doing a British accent. We understand.
You got John Bertha, you have something to.
Speaker 6: Say, you know, all right, I'm done.
Speaker 10: I do want to ask clean also for everyone else,
what you guys thought the scene that we had brought
up earlier when he asked him what not?
Speaker 3: Which not did you tell?
Speaker 10: And you know, Travis, you had mentioned like okay, like
like how did you guys take it? Was it the
guy that tied the knot?
Speaker 3: And like he's just just shell shocked and he doesn't
one answer. Do you take it? As it's the brother?
And he just genuinely doesn't know because he's not the
one who did it? How did you? How did you guys?
Speaker 2: Or he knows and he's lying. That's the third option, right,
that he just doesn't want to admit to it because
he's a coward. Yeah, And I kind of lean that
way because I feel like he's kind of cowardice at
the beginning, or maybe he just I don't know, Like
it's just because how I guess you could be. I
think to me would have to be shell shocked because,
like you said, if we talked about if the other
brother dude it, why wouldn't you ask him like, hey,
what not you tie brother? Like could you could you
give me heads up? I just like I personally want
to know you killed our partner's wife, Like I think
I would like to know it not you tied. So
I think it has to be shell shocked or he's
just lying because he just he's too cowards to like
face him. I feel like Baill is a bit more
cowards than in the first act where heugh Jackman's very
you know, at the funerals, he's yelling and he's proud.
Speaker 11: So I like it regardless. I don't care which way
it is.
Speaker 12: I like it.
Speaker 3: I like, did you take how did you take it?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 3: When when you see it?
Speaker 13: I took it as he got, he got like it
all happened so fast that he was traumatized and he
legitimately can't remember kind of planked it out of his memory.
Speaker 11: I didn't think about the other solutions, but I like
those too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I I took it that way. Also, I
just feel like he probably did do the other Nott
that he thought was better, and then whether it was
the other brother or not, I feel like it's just
like he was emotionally damaged by like losing her, because
it's like they do show that they at least work together,
and like he did feel remorse for her.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like, yeah, I mean, he showed up to
the funeral right the bull play, though I wouldn't have
showed up that. I don't know I would have. I
would have sat that one out if I because I
feel like, like you're going about he didn't get the memo,
he got the wrong memo. He's like he didn't even
see the show that week. He just showed up the funeral.
Speaker 1: He has no idea what happened.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. I can't believe she drowned. I
told him that's a dangerous trick, and you'd walk up,
but not to tie board. I don't know. Yeah, I
swear it's like an inception though, where they show you
that he tied the other knot because I swear he's
tying the regular not and they show his hands to rapper. Yeah,
so I think he did tie. Yeah, like he tied
the bad nod whether he like meant or not.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Michael cam was right.
Speaker 3: How did you take it?
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, basic guy.
Speaker 4: I figured that he probably because he he's such a like,
oh I know better kind of guy. I figure he
probably did it. And then afterwards whether he was lying
or he generally just didn't know and he it was
instinct it was probably that.
Speaker 9: But yeah, I think he he definitely was responsible.
Speaker 2: He's Oh, he's deft for a response, because like I guess,
she could have drawn like it happens all the time.
She could have knock got out, which would have been
an interesting twist too if this whole feud is based
on he did tie the right knot and she just didn't,
like didn't get out, because then the jack his whole
life is kind of a I don't know, it's sad then,
like he's mad this guy for his time that not
Michael Kane told them to you know, it's almost pointless,
but yeah, but yeah, Sam, what do you think of
the nine? And then what do you think of the
movie we threw to you earlier?
Speaker 5: And then we'll Sorry, it's hard to follow a Wilms
Films sort of part star review, but I'll try my best.
So I'm a bit of a newcomeray movie. So I
I watched this for the first one three years here. Yeah,
And so that was back in my infancy when I
just had lists of movies to watch.
Speaker 7: And just get through all are and that sort of thing.
Speaker 5: And I remember watching The Prestige and getting to the
end of it and just seeing here going, well, Nolan's
the best, Jackman's the best, Bales are best, no worries, and.
Speaker 7: Then thirty seconds later going what the fuck just happened?
Speaker 5: I'm not It was just so I think it's on
my letterbox reviews, Like I was just like YouTube explanation
straight away, which there's more about.
Speaker 7: Me than it does the movie obviously.
Speaker 5: But I've had that a few times with Christopherola movies
where I'm just like, I think I've missed something because
I really don't know what's going on.
Speaker 7: So it's definitely what I need to rewatch.
Speaker 5: Like even just hearing you guys talking about it there,
I'm just like, man, I can't remember any of that stuff.
So yeah, it's one I need to rewatch. So yeah,
that's my take on the film. But having said that,
I loved it. Like with most of these movies, I
loved it. I just needed a little little bit of help.
Interstellar as a good example as well, just getting.
Speaker 7: To the end and just going what exactly do I
just watch?
Speaker 3: I liked it, but I don't know what.
Speaker 2: In his books yelling no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: So that's why I'm very grateful to Yeah, the reviews
and stuff you guys do, which put a lot of
context around those sorts of things, things that I'm too
you could pick up.
Speaker 7: So yeah, but I do remember lacking it for sure.
But yeah, I'm gonna have to rewatch it. It's just
one of those ones where I look at and I go,
I really should watch this, but just.
Speaker 5: I'm just going to have to concentrate so closely to
watch this film again, and I just don't have it
in me at the moment.
Speaker 7: I'm tough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're saying tut last that's uh, because Tusk
is something. But Mike, you also were like Clay where
you were a little uh shady with your thoughts or
I saw some thoughts.
Speaker 9: I saw something interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So when when was the last we saw this
or was this the first time I saw this for
the first time?
Speaker 4: When a year after it came out around when it
came on on Blu ray, I remember reading out Blockbuster
I had a double feature between that and Another Magician
where they came out.
Speaker 9: I think like like within a month of it.
Speaker 4: The illusions, Yes, yes, I can't even.
Speaker 9: Like separate them in my mind. To me, they're like
twined together.
Speaker 2: Cinematic Magician Universe exactly the original.
Speaker 4: Well, it's like the two White House movies that came
out the same there's almost like two movies that have
the same games that come out within the same year.
Speaker 2: And Dante's Peak. Yeah, it was a situation right again,
is all?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, it's illusions like worth going to because I think
I've only seen bits of piece, but I don't think
i've ever seen all the ways.
Speaker 9: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 4: Back when I watched both of them, I was I
think I was like eleven or twelve years old. I
remember liking The Illusionist more. Now that being said, it's because.
Speaker 2: Right now, it's because when I was that age, I
barely understood anything that was happening in the Pristige.
Speaker 4: All I remember was the ending, and at that age
I was like, oh, my mind was brokenly, Oh that's
and this was But this is before I knew anything
about like Christopher Nolan or director's names or anything like that.
Speaker 9: So I was just looking to it as a movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh so the longest isn't the illusions right? Yes,
which is funny because at the time that they were,
Scargion and just Bill were like that those were the
two hot it girls. It was like those were the
Scargion wasn't in one. Jessica Bale was in the other thing,
you know, So it's funny.
Speaker 9: But yeah, so I remember watching those two and with
the Prestige.
Speaker 4: I don't know why, but ever since then, I've always
had it in my mind as like once I knew
who Chrisphilan was, I was always like, yeah, The Prestige
is probably my favorite non Batman christ Vhanolan movie, and
I for some reason, I just never had it in
my mind to rewatch it. We were watching it now,
I would still say I have. I would give it
a very solid eight out of ten. It's just going
back and like watching it again knowing the twists, I
could not help. But have those thoughts in my head
of like, well, oh, here's one thing. When I was
a kid, I thought that the Christian real character.
Speaker 9: I thought they weren't twins. I thought he was a clone,
and unlike Jackman, he just kept the clone alive.
Speaker 2: I thought that at one point for sure.
Speaker 9: Yes, So because to me that made more sense, I'm like, Okay,
it's a clone.
Speaker 4: And obviously a clone, you're not gonna like, he's not
gonna live an independent life.
Speaker 9: He just was created.
Speaker 4: So that's why he kept them around and they decided
to switch lives because he took pity on him.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, it's a twin.
Speaker 4: I feel like it raises a lot of questions, like, well,
didn't this twin have an independent life before he became
a magician, when there were people who know this, how
did he shut those people up? Like stuff like that
that rattles in my mind, that keeps me from like
really really loving it. That being said, I really appreciate
a lot of the filmmaking technique that went into it.
This is a movie that may in two thousand and six,
it could have been come out today. It would still
feel just as well made. It did not feel old
that I credit song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I like the song separately, but it
is like it is an odd like did you get
this for free? Like is that war brothers called like
unless who knows me? And Nolan's like, I love this
song man, and I got to put up the fits
with the prestige, like it doesn't fit at all in
the ending. You know, it's just it. It's a super
super odd choice. I think the only thing about you're
saying with the others, I think the thing that would help,
but they don't do it. I feel like when they
when him and Jackman see The fish Bowl Magician, they're
supposed to be like a lot younger than they actually
look in the movie. So I think it's almost like
you're still right that even if he was sixteen or seventeen,
why it's like, what's Bale's brother doing this whole time?
But that's why it takes like, Okay, well, maybe if
they saw them as like young men, maybe the jig
isn't up. Maybe somewhere else unless they're I don't think
they're always playing this because I always think as the
fish bowls like that's hiss aha, moment of like, oh
that's what it takes to be a good magician.
Speaker 9: Is you gotta do this sacrifice.
Speaker 2: All the time every time?
Speaker 4: All that that brings up my last big complaint that
I'll go to the positives. I think this movie could
have been a lot better if it had like a
half hour more to breathe. I feel like if we
could have gotten stuff with that bit more backstory on
both characters, to see why they chose this path, why
it turned into an obsession for them, and also at
the end, like it ending on the big twist is
like a big, like oh shit moment, So I.
Speaker 9: Just why they did that. But I would have loved
a little bit.
Speaker 4: More context to just see more interactions between the twins
of them talking to each other, more like stuff to
make it feel more.
Speaker 9: Like a main package.
Speaker 4: But apart from that, like I said, I have nothing
bad to say about any of the performances aside from
Scarlett Johansson Hugh Jackman. That man is a versatile actor.
Oh wait, he has to play all these different performances.
He plays like the drunk that they hire to be
is double. He has to play the English accent, the
American accent.
Speaker 9: He's fantastic.
Speaker 4: Christian Bale I think I was just poisoned by him
because I was never a huge fan of him as Batman,
but seeing him here, I'm like, this is a Christian Bale.
Speaker 9: I like, I like Christian Bill in this mode. And
when he doestly like, well, you don't even recognize him,
like when he's in in Vice or.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 2: Do you like him as is it all of them
or is it just him as like literal Batman, Like
do you like his Bruce Wayne or is it I'm both.
I'm not a Hutch fan of That's fine, Yeah, no,
I was just wondering. And last thing, I'll also say,
Andy serkis great little cameo in this.
Speaker 9: He was delightful.
Speaker 4: I could have taken more of him in his weird
little American businessman accent.
Speaker 3: He should be.
Speaker 2: Another Nolan guy too, you know. Like when I was
watched that, I was like, it's like the prestigious, this
weird little other than Bail and Kan who already worked
with He didn't work with any of these people ever again,
like not Rebecca Hall, who I'd kill to see him
in Rebecca Hall, like I love Rebecca Hall and stuff.
Never scarred Joe, who's like a better actress now today
than she was back then. Not not Hugh Jackman, not
any circus. I'll see Bowie pass And if you don't
know the history behind that, like Nolan, like he went out,
it was like Spielberg trying to get Lewis for Lincoln.
He had to send like Bowie, like three hand written
notes because Bowie kept turning him down. It's like, I
really don't want to do this forever reason. Bowie's like,
I don't want to do this, and he like wrote
again and wrot again eventually, like I think he just
battered him down to like and Bowie's greatest tesla, Like yeah,
he didn't have that, but when you see that on paper,
you're like, oh, that's gonna be super distracting, Like David
Bowie has tesla, that's gonna be like really, Hammy.
Speaker 9: He just hit stage right into the performance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a really like I mean this in
a good way, like mundane, subtle performance. Like same thing,
like if you add a half narrowmore, I could take
more of the scene and tusk of those two in
that Towinament conversation. I could have had that with Hugh
Jackman and Tesla like I could have had that.
Speaker 4: The Edison dynamic could have been like a better comparison
between the two main characters who have their rivalry going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could have had that. And I do understand
your points, especially with the Twins. I think with Jackman,
I'm fine because when he dies, at least he explains
the like, oh you never got it is to look
on their faces. The fact that surprise them so like
the ending made me understand why he does it. He
just loves the oh I got you moment. I do
love though that they kind of like make what's in
the barrels of twist even though they before that they
show us like a fifteen minute montage of him killing
multiple Hugh Jackmans and these things, but it's like he's
like scared to like move it and it shows Hugh Jackman.
They kind of treat it like they almost shouldn't have
showed us that it was Jackman dying these things because
we know what's.
Speaker 11: We know what's.
Speaker 4: I love when he said with you Jackman, we said,
like I went up there not knowing whether I was
gonna be the clone who died or the one that
I thought. Man the huge evn't care to me, Like,
that's why I know they're both supposed to be kind
of like the villains of the movie in a way.
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna lie. Up until the end, I was
still kind of rooting for Jackman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's still yeah near the end when
he's like taking his daughter and doing and like frame
it like now, it's like, okay, man, your obsession is
like too far. But yeah, that's what I love. Like
in the first time, he like clones himself. Technically, the
guy that ends up over there could be the guy
who were following the whole movie, right, we don't know
for a fact of like how this system works and everything.
So it's such a.
Speaker 4: Fun and at least the sacrifice that Jackman makes to me,
like this is how I frame it.
Speaker 9: He only does that to himself.
Speaker 4: He's only hurting himself, whereas with Bail living the double life,
doing that to the two women is such a like
that's just an awful thing he's inflicting upon even the daughter,
Like the daughter doesn't know that she has two different
dads and one of them is taking care of her
now and anyone's dead. I don't know how he's gonna
explain that to her, but that's probably a future him problem.
Speaker 2: I don't think he will. Yeah, I don't think. I
think all she knows is just that that's her dad
because the last conversation he which I love when you
watched the first one, know, he's like, I'm gonna see
you real soon, and you just say, oh, it's a
dad comforting his dar. But no, legit, he's gonna see
her soon. Just with the brothers, I think it's just
they just they never heals, never gonna reveal that conversation
or anything that daughter, and just you're gonna grow up
thinking that, Oh, I guess he's gonna have to walk
around like big Hugh Jackman mustaches now too, because he's
like a dead man, right, So they gotta they gotta
get out of there.
Speaker 9: And I do like that.
Speaker 2: Michael Kaine is the like he helps you Jackmans so
much in the movie, but then when he finds what
Jackman's doing, he switches like back to his like original
protge kind of like, okay, you've you're messing up this
kid's life. Now. I can't I can't be with you
on there. Even though I like again that Hugh Jackman
was like I didn't want to involve you in any
of this. Like he's actively looking out for Michael Kaine
the whole time. He doesn't want to get like his
hands dirty. But uh, you know he's, I guess a
good person, you know so, And Michael Kaine is the
heart of the movie for sure. Oh yeah, he's he's fantastics.
Speaker 10: And that and that ending shocked too, like you like
you look, you alluded to you you know what's going
on because when he's using it, you know, you know
he's cloning himself at that point, you know what he's
doing with the tank.
Speaker 3: But I feel like it's also just the visual of it.
Speaker 10: It hits two because you know there's multiple shots of
like just like rows of tanks you know, yeah, filled
up in that place. So then when you when you
see the body, it's like it just puts into context
like everything he's been doing like hot and he literally
killed himself, you know.
Speaker 4: It's uh, it's like he also implied that in his
head he died the day his wife died, and everything
he's done since then has just been Again That's why
I feel like the Jackman characters is a lot better
realize than the Bail character because you know his motivation
is this guy probably killed my wife. I'm going after
this son of a bit of everything I've gotten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's one thing, like with the tanks and everything,
you can like, how does he all the times where
both Bail and Hugh Jackman end up on stage in costume,
It's like it's an unbelievable amount of just like how
did you not check him? Like yeah, and he volunteers
all that guy that looks like bored and like even
the last night, like how's he no Bail? And I
just take it that he must be up there and
Steve's bell corner's eye and he knows, like, okay, tonight's
the night. All I can imagine is the Jackman goes
to the box and the other gentleman goes up. It's
just booking it through the streets. He doesn't want to
be seen anywhere near that arena. He's just like, oh
my god, I got him. He's down there and he
thinks I'm dying like I would have loved to see. Yeah,
the flashback of him on that night, like oh, I
fuck it. Finally and he's gonna He's watched him getting
arrested and he's just like because like you got like
how you like? And if Borden doesn't ever come, what's
he just gonna do? It's just gonna kill himself the
rest of his life.
Speaker 9: He's really had one hundred shows. I think that was
the big deal is that he had a hundred right.
Speaker 2: So he's they kill himself the one hundred times, which
I guess he knew Bord's gonna eventually come and get him, right,
And even that dynamic, it's so great when that Bordon
is talking to God, what's the fake brother's name, what's
the assistant's name? Fall Fountain. Yeah, when he's like, okay,
that he it's Bail telling found to leave it alone.
We're done with it. And then later on in the
prison he's like, oh, sorry, he told me to leave
it alone. I should have That's not the conversation that
we saw Austin once. You know the twist, you know
it's him talking to Foun, who's dressed is won So
when he the Fallon, he's the one that goes to
the show. By the time, you're like, why is he
saying like you told me I should have gone the show?
Like we just saw a scene of Bail saying no,
you don't go to the show. So it's like at
times that's with the done stuff. You're like, is this like,
like are these actively connuity errors? Then like, oh no,
it's it's because he's talking to himself right now and
Faln's there. You know.
Speaker 10: That's why I love this for a rewatch though, because
I find you pick us those moments so much when
you've seen it already, obviously, like the Twist sticks out,
it seems more apparent. But for the most part, I
feel like throughout my life, when I've given this movie
for people to watch for the first time, I'm always
worried on.
Speaker 3: They're gonna pick up on it, because when I rewatch it,
it feels obvious. Like with Fallen, he seems a bit
a bit sketchy.
Speaker 10: They never they kind of avoid him a little bit,
but no one ever really comes back to me saying, oh,
like they figured it out. It was so obvious, Like
it seems to like the movie describes itself, you know,
did it fools it fools the audience, you know.
Speaker 2: And they also drop multiple brother references too throughout the movie,
which seems like at the now when you know the Twister,
like it seems so like audacious, but like there's some
line that I can't remember. Bail says it to Scarlett
Johansson's care about time, like not like he is, probably,
but just like the concept of a brother in general,
and it's almost like him.
Speaker 10: Like ah, like you want to know, like like also
when when they when they killed the bird, right, Rare
is his.
Speaker 2: Brother, right? And how does he pull off the trick
as the bird as a brother. And there's all these
little things where it's just like it seems like it
should be right there in your face, you know, but
it's it's it's no that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I appreciate that I felt stupid this time around.
Speaker 13: I'm like, did I really not realize like that it's
Christian Bale and makeup like like and I I didn't.
Speaker 11: I had no idea the first time I watched it
years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Well, even on that note from the literally the opening shots,
like that opening line challenges the viewer, you know, you
hear Bail the voiceover, are you watching closely? And the
first two shots is all the the duplicates of the
top pat and then it's a it's a shot of
the two birds, you know, the two identical birds. So
like literally from the opening shots, it reveals what you
like one of the motifs, the theme, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, one's definitely good with like thematics and layering
that throughout the story.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's pro with that and best of the
best there, Kirklan. I know you've talked about Preceige quite
a few times being one of the ones.
Speaker 6: You go back to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, It's funny. Uh My origin is so
similar to Mike's because I I have like very vivid
memories of watching this with my uncle and we watched
this and The Illusionists like around the same time. Uh,
I don't know, just at my grandma's house. Yeah, the
one is hard Drive or something, so we just like
watched those. We watched Fracture too, at like the same time.
I don't know if that movie Anthony Hopkins movie.
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah no, I'm on the thumbs down Kirkland.
Speaker 1: I've rewatched it. I've rewatched it, so it's like it's
in my head.
Speaker 3: Maybe I won't rewatch it.
Speaker 2: He was one day listing all these great movies and
one day like snuck it in frat Action and I
was like, for a fraction I have Okay, visit that
saying I think Hopkins, yeah, the last time you.
Speaker 3: Guys saw it, sorry before what.
Speaker 2: I'll say within I feel like the I felt like
maybe before or early days of the podcast, probably ten
years ag because I feel like I'd see it not
that long ago. And Kirkli's like, oh, fractions great. So
I'll say in a decade, I was like fracture, like,
I like rewatch.
Speaker 10: I'd give it a rewatch because even me my first viewing,
I was underwhelmed.
Speaker 3: You have those two actors.
Speaker 10: But I rewatched it the last couple of like maybe
two years ago, and it was actually decent.
Speaker 3: I'd give it a rewatch, give it another and shot.
Speaker 11: I don't like I don't like Hopkins.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we can't even get in that. You just
don't like Hopkins period.
Speaker 11: That's he's always old, he's always boring.
Speaker 2: It's not his fault.
Speaker 9: He was born.
Speaker 13: It's a world many Yeah, yeah, he was thirty.
Speaker 11: He's boring.
Speaker 2: He's got the Rick Flair effect. Sam, you a fracture
free so you're you're like, you know, you're somewhere. Yeah,
and then Clay Clay.
Speaker 7: You three in this economy is good?
Speaker 2: I reckon that's not too bad. And Clay, you gave
you two point five to clarify, that's a fail for you, right, Clay.
Speaker 11: Too high, that's too high?
Speaker 2: And also cud click your box. Why do you have
Howard the Duck is your favorite movie on letterbox currently? Okay, yeah,
I was, I was like, I thought you were hacked
for a second, but okay, we'll come back to Fracture
one day, Kirkly and go.
Speaker 1: Back to go back to Prestige and I'll pick that
movie next year.
Speaker 9: Watching absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that came to mind right away. But you know,
it was just this era of me being exposed those
types of movies of like they have a twist at
the end fight Club to like I just feel like
this around that time was when I first saw those movies,
and it just like it just awoken something and be
of like this is something different than like Spy Kids
or Land Before Time. You know, like this is a
different type of film that I'm watching that It's just
it really makes you, yeah, exactly makes you think more.
And uh, I feel like the Butterfly Fleck too, the
Butterfly effect was in there too, of just like a
movie that I watched and I hadn't always happen, and
then at the end.
Speaker 2: Ashion Culture trying his best for two hours. Have you
ever seen the time with you at Guy Pierce? I
know you don't like Guy.
Speaker 1: Piers, but there's another one like, oh, I don't think so,
don't like achieval movie?
Speaker 2: No, it's it's well, no, he goes back to actually, yeah,
he goes back to the time that looks like medieval times.
But I think it's like Plan the Apes where it's like, no,
this is Earth, like two thousand. That's kind of shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe I have I don't know.
Speaker 2: You can skip it, don't. You don't like guye Peers,
so yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it just it was it was a different
type movie that I'd seen, and I just love that
idea of like, holy fuck, I did not see that
twist coming at all. I did not understand the like
the double Christian Bale thing and the prestige, especially like
the first time, first couple of times that I had
watched it, Like you, Mike, I was like so on
Hugh Jackman's side, I'm like he is the protagus.
Speaker 9: Of the movie.
Speaker 1: Like I'm so like heartbroken that he dies at the end.
And then now like rewatch it him like, oh he
just like stole that guy's daughter. Let him die, Like
it's so like fucked up, how like deep off the
end he goes. But uh no, I love the movie
back then, and it for I think all of Nolan's
films like they just get better on rewatches. For me,
I knew I was gonna be watching this, so I
watched Inception leading up to it too, another one that
I just loved even more. I rewatched Tenant every year
because I just I love that movie. I try and
understand it even even more even more on each rewatch.
But yeah, no, I absolutely love this movie. This was
my most favorite rewatching of it. I don't know, it
just it just hit so much harder. The Michael Caine
dialogue hits so good, Christian Bale so fantastic, Hugh Jackman,
I don't mind Scar Joe's accent in this. It's kind
of fun just because it's like she's just been black
widow in my eyes for so long lately, so to
just have like a different performance of hers. Has anybody
seen the perfect score with her and Chris Evans in it?
Oh my god, that was like a d we had
in like the minivan growing up, and it was we
would just watch it whether we're going to soccer practice
or whatever. It was just always on in the minivan.
And uh, I remember her from that, but no, I
think I was just gonna say, yeah, no, I love
the smell of the twist. Magic is wild. It's just
like the hardcore committers of doing this, especially like this era,
where like you gotta fully commit the catching bullet technique,
where like they said, like anyone can just fuck with you,
put anything.
Speaker 3: Out of paper.
Speaker 2: You're gonna kill birds all the time. Yeah, the poor
lady just got her fingers mangled for just good knight
on the town, going to we'll say Magic Show tonight.
Christian Bale just destroys her hands.
Speaker 3: He gives, he gives that little grin.
Speaker 1: It's like the fakest beard I've ever seen in my life.
It's like nowhere near the same color of.
Speaker 2: His head the trick and they look up Christian Bale's
slip right there, what's about to happen here? And like,
you know, I'm usually on the lady, the ladies her head,
you know, I'm usually on their side. And they're like, oh,
we'll just cut the quid. The act and the guy's
like no, he shows are canceled, like I'm getting the
commend now. This actually was Christian Bale when they looked
like snap, innocent woman, she did not deserve to have
sing this mangle.
Speaker 3: Dead in the eyes.
Speaker 6: He stares.
Speaker 2: No, No one arrested me either. No one stops this
guy who just assaulted her, like especially back then, like
you got show on the streets I'm watching fucking uh
peaky blinders right now. Somebody could have caught him.
Speaker 9: Know I'm saying that I was always getting other people
involved in this ship.
Speaker 2: He can't. Yeah, he really is. Yeah, Okay, well before
we move in replacements. I forgot that I had this up.
Before we move on. This is just it's called parents.
This is Hugh Jackman. This is Huge Wagman's. So here
you go. This is an edition of.
Speaker 9: Versatile Actor.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Kirvana is one of my all time
favorite bands. And I die when I saw.
Speaker 13: So.
Speaker 9: I don't know whend up beginning a black widow.
Speaker 2: And it's something just like technically like isn't supposed to
be like for your fans, is early nineteen hundreds or
some shit like that.
Speaker 9: It makes no sense type of stuff.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it looks like an old spice commercial.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it looks like a parad movie. I've never
seen it in my life, but I just remember that
clip going around with that movie was I was like,
what are they doing to my boy over here?
Speaker 4: It was a good director that made that too, Like
I think it was the guy who did like Anna,
Karinana and a bunch of other like old the Victorian
era movies.
Speaker 2: I think so. I think it's I think it's called Oh,
I think it's called Pan. That's why it's just called Pan.
That's why it was forgetting, because he's not he has
to learn that he's not Peter Pane. He has to
earn the Peter. It's directed by Joe Wright. Yeah, did
Pride and Prejudice and told me, yeah, what the fuck
is he doing?
Speaker 10: Pan?
Speaker 2: Dark as Our Hannah like sometimes Syriana, which I want
to watch it. Sometimes these directors when they're doing something,
I'm like, what, Like how did he find like same thing,
same situation? How the guy that meant the Green Knight,
why did he direct a fucking Disney plus Peter pan adaption?
Like why did that happen?
Speaker 9: When he wants to make their Peter Pan movie.
Speaker 2: You know they really do. It's like they're, God, what's
what's he's getting re remade? Oh like Chris Well that
and Christmas Carol because we got like two when people
always go I got my own take on Scrooge and
it's only like two percent different. But I watch it
like a fiend anyways. But uh, all right, let's go
to replacements. I do have much more sticular I think
I said my thoughts that like I enjoyed it enough.
It wasn't a at least like watch that I hated,
but I just like, yeah, it's the type of two
thousands movie that maybe probably wasn't up my alley, didn't
laugh too much. Yeah, fun soundtrack. I think at this
thing that I had a good time watching it, but
on the enjoyment sense and like the Okay, this is
a cool little like if my kids asked me, like
described me like a two thousands movie, this is probably
a top ten movie. You could show me like, oh yeah,
this is some of the like very mediocre fine stuff
and it was crazy and a little much trivia. But
this movie like bombed at the box office. It had
a budget of fifty million, only made fifty eight million,
so like like and back then at least they had
DVD sales and cables, so they probably still made a profit.
But still, like you would have thought after Matrix and
especially too because not even them, I've heard other people
talk about their placements. I thought, like you might get
was like a cult hit that I've just been avoiding
for years because like, honestly, like, I'm not a big
fan of sports movies. I have ones that I love,
but I'm not like, oh, every every time this comes up,
I need to watch them, like because they just follow
it's like a musical bile pick for the most part.
They follow all the similar tropes. And hey, I'm not
way with combook movies, but I like combooks, so that's
where it's like, that's the difference. So for me, the
sports stuff, I always avoided it, and it's crazy stuff
of just like the let's say this is the NFL,
the entire leagues going on strike four weeks before the playoffs,
Like what if this issuation would ever happen, It would
at least happen after the season, no way, some fucking
quarterback or anybody. It's like, especially this team, it'd be
different if you were a loser team, it would sart
of the season. It's like, oh, somehow, that to me
would be more believable. If the strike happens, these rookies
get to the playoffs and then they come back and
take the glory. There's this team only has to win
three games to get the playoffs. There's no way the
players like, you know what, I'm not gonna do that.
And especially it's so funny when we're in the two thousands. Nowadays,
you could never do a movie where like the league
is the good guy. Like they paint all the players
wanting money and more rights and more travel stuff. It's
like they should want that. They're rich quarterbacks, it's like
and nowadays, like look how much they get paid. And
anytime Roger Goodell like waves to the fucking queen, they're like,
fuck this man, Like he gets booed the same way
Trump does at a rally, Like when he shows up,
it's like, I don't know about Roger Goodell, but like
I don't know if he does boot out of the house.
Like every single time you see him, like he'll be
up there presenting the fucking Super Bowl trophy and like
fuck you, Roger, you know, like it's like, I'm fine, yeah,
do it once. But yeah, so it's it is a
It is a strange movie. I can see why people
like anyway if they grew up with it. Why they
could because I have movies like that, right, like Bedazzled.
I fucking love the Dazzled. Is that good movie? No
it is not, but I brand fray a hurly the
Wishes all that. Orlando Jones is also in that movie,
which shout out to him, where is Orlando Jones? That days?
He should have been somebody like been around more? So
I I enjoyed it, but I will likely buy my
choice never watching it, just because it's like a it's
like a fine, whatever call me movie.
Speaker 13: Your thing about Orlando Jones is my thing about Faison Love.
I think that guy should be in every movie.
Speaker 2: Hamily likes this Love too, and I was like, who.
Speaker 11: He's great. He's the guy in Elf who's like, there's
no singing in the North Pole. He's fucking awesome, that guy.
He makes me laugh.
Speaker 13: So there's a movie that now has an age well
because Diddy is in it, and it's John Cavreau Vince
Vaughn follow up, Just Swingers, which is one of my
favorite movies.
Speaker 11: It's called made. Have you guys seen this?
Speaker 13: No, It's like John Favreau and Vince Vaughn becomes small
time gangsters and they go from LA to New York
to do a small job for a gangster and he's
a drawn there comedy. It's it's a comedy and it's
like it's kind of like Swingers, but if they somehow
got a job to be gangsters and they have to
do some deal.
Speaker 11: With like the Irish Irish mafia or something.
Speaker 13: And uh and Faison Love and Diddy are the guys
who they meet in New York and go to meet
these Irish mobs or guys and uh, it's really stupid,
but Faison Love is really funny. Fabreau and Vincent.
Speaker 2: Before for sure? Is this like a be cool pulp
fiction situation where it's like the lesser of the Swinger?
Like yes, yeah, like that where it's like we're trying
to recapture that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, very much like Swingers B minus version.
Speaker 2: Okay, she's in there.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Yeah, that's like Favreau's girlfriend. He's he's he's dating
her and he's also like her bodyguard when she goes
out to do strip club parties and then he gets
really angry and beats people up if they touch her.
Speaker 11: It's a weird movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see did he I wonder when it feels
like he's trying since True Detective's trying to do that,
But I wonder when, like like Vince Vaughan was almost
in like Academy a Ward of Jason stuff for a
while and then he just did I'd have to look
maybe it's old schools, Like he just did old school
and he's like, I'm doing this for twenty years, you know,
like he tried True Detective, and I don't you think
he's bad there. I think that he's just not the
greatest and there's other stuff he's tried. But along the way,
oh you know, it probably cooked him to roast his
brain cell was when he was fucking Norman Bates. I
forgot about that when he had when he did that
Shot for Shot remake, and I think he got pretty
like maligned, like critically for that. It's like and that
if I was his agent, terrible. That's a bad setup.
Like they're gonna Shot for Shot remake, Psycho, when you're
gonna play Norman Baits never like no actor. It's like
fucking Mike Clanag and doing the mist It's like your agent,
your wife and say, Mike, not this one, don't do this.
It's not gonna go well, it's it's I hate to say,
I say this whole Ton guy's playing fuck and Snape
and that Harry Potter show. I feel bad for him.
I just feel like everyone because everyone that doesn't read
the books think Snape acts like that. He doesn't. That's
just Alan Rickman playing Snape and everyone's gonna expect him
to be that. It's like, you can't be on Rickman.
So it's just like the fact that this agent ever
let Vince Vaughan be Norman Bates in the Cycle remake
what and.
Speaker 11: You know you did The Lost World? Where like cool,
like what is he He's like an environmental specialist, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: He has a gun or so like he's like he's
a bit more bad. But but at least that's Spielberg.
I can understand that, right, Like he's like, yeah, they're
they're doing a sequel Jurassic World. Spielberg's back, and it's
like all right, like yeah, no, not either, not like
I like I like it. The only thing I love
about is like Goldblum's the lead in it, and it's
Goldblum before Goldblum's like like a caricature of himself. Like
rarely nowadays do you get like a real Jeff Goldblum performance.
Sing Now, it's like joining Depp in those last Pirates
movie where he's just he's playing Johnny Depp playing Jack Sparrow.
That is Jack Sparrow.
Speaker 9: And we've got a greatch of Goloblin performance in the
past couple of years.
Speaker 14: We don't talk about Don't bring Don't Bring Me up,
the reveal and the damn he's not in that movie
that much, Mike, Like he's in there, but he's like
he and he's playing like a Goldblum like he's playing
what you would want.
Speaker 2: I get that, you know, So.
Speaker 9: I found a way to sneaking at him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Mike. Yeah, what did you think of
the replacements? Mike? You talked a little bit about any
more thoughts before?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually mirror a lot of what you thought
about it. To me, it's just like a is it
a pretty example of a five out of ten movie?
Like nothing bad about it, nothing great about it? Felt
very much like a two thousands era movie. Felt weird
that it was oddly against unionization, and and like there
was so much about it that was it was kind
of fascinating. And like how I said about how The
Prestige felt like it was a movie that could have
been made years later, this felt like a movie I
saw it was made in two thousand.
Speaker 9: This like it was made in the early nineties at least.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was the film green quality
or what was going on.
Speaker 3: It just felt old.
Speaker 4: The storyline two hours long, and yet when I look
back at it, I'm like, there couldn't possibly have been
more than like an hour and twenty minutes worth of
plot going on there.
Speaker 2: They could cut the entire romantic angle, like and I
know that's the thing of the two thousands is every
movie like that was like a comedy and even like
act like almost every genre needed the love interest that
wasn't needed at all. It added nothing to Like the
whole thing was him bonding with the team.
Speaker 9: You did.
Speaker 2: It's not like the team hated him and she was
like the bridge to be like no, like you guys
should work to get like they didn't give her anything.
Speaker 1: Else, Like the villain was like, you don't deserve her.
At the end when he comes in, it's that much conflict.
Speaker 4: That villain was like a big nothing burger, like you
need to build up to a big conversation. They just
kick him out at the end and it's like, Okay, well,
I guess that's done.
Speaker 2: Tie back to Nolan, he's also in Darn Night Rises.
Don't forget. He's the mayor that gets kidnapped by Anne Hathaway.
Who then and he's Joke, he's Arthur Or he's Thomas Wayne,
he's Bruce Wayne, and Joker's dad and that one.
Speaker 12: He is.
Speaker 2: But me and him, I have a feeling that I
guarantee you there was a storyline where they used to
date or he tried hit on her because that and
they cut it, like I bet because that line made
no sense. He was like, she's too good for you.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 2: What you've shown there's you guys have a zero interaction.
It's not like, oh, that's the one person he's friendly
with or fake friendly with. He's you don't deserve her, man,
say what?
Speaker 4: Like on the side, characters had storylines that got cut,
like the recent character.
Speaker 9: He was probably my favorite guy in the whole movie.
He had this like subplot where he was like had
a gambling debts or something and they to take his
bar away. I don't think that guy in the game.
Speaker 2: They showed them in the game he gets nervous, gets injured,
and they never duved him, like because even at the end,
she happens like, no one remembered them. They didn't get
any sponsorship deals. So what did Rice even or Reese
Evans get fucking killed the next day?
Speaker 9: Like this movie? And I thought it was gonna happen.
Speaker 4: It needed an Animal House style ending where it's just
a freeze frame on all of their faces.
Speaker 9: And a little thing of text saying what happened to them?
That was I thought for sure we were gonna get that.
Speaker 2: And especially to them. They emphasized so much of the
crowd in four games fell in love with these people.
So the fact that they're like, oh and after this
game they really never heard from again, it's like why,
like why, like and you.
Speaker 9: Just brought up that.
Speaker 4: Okay, so the strike was the entire league. I thought
it was just that team because now I'm thinking, well,
why were they only talking about their replacements when they
came to that team and not the other teams?
Speaker 2: No, It's like they had the worst replaced. And I
feel like the movie went back and forth between it
was the league and it was the team, like it
was always it was always the whole league, but it
felt like the story they were telling, it felt like
it was just that team. Yeah, and it was a
too like why did just the quarterback come across the
line and no one else from the team, Like I know,
because drama, right, but like why didn't nobody else know, like, oh,
we could go to the super Bowl sure, or I'll
all cross the line like they know, like they they
didn't care about any of that stuff.
Speaker 4: If we heard a thirty second Keith David cameo too,
which I'm not going to knock more Keith David, but
still I thought he was gonna be a main character
at the beginning.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I wish because they showed all the people
in the credits, and they did show Keith David when
they show Oh my god, they kept him as a
secret and oh no, he's just I don't know, owed
someone a favor for something I don't know.
Speaker 9: You look at his IMDb page and I think that
pretty much is his career.
Speaker 2: He oone, he owes someone a favored David, which which
is kind of funny you say that, like like I
liked him more than other people. But he did show
up in like Shelby Oakes, like the Chris Stuck movie.
He's like the Insane Asylum like director or whatever, like
the Warden. So hey, maybe that means, Kirk, we can
get him for one of the GV movies. Begin we
got we get something on him, and oh it's a favor.
You know, we told you to watch this movie for him.
You know there's our favor.
Speaker 3: So I'm wondering if there's another cut because even that
scene with the with the.
Speaker 2: At least releast the replacements, because.
Speaker 10: Mike, when you when you were describing that, as I
was watching, I was waiting for that scene of them
confronting him in the locker room, like, hey, if if
you don't miss this kick whatever, something's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I was literally waiting for that scene as if I'm
seeing that scene, and it never came. So I'm wondering.
Speaker 2: And you know what's weird too, is those mobster guys.
I'm gonna show this because kirkles laughing because I just
checked my DMS. I show it Maddie sent me find up.
Oh yeah, the fakest Sperod of all time. Christian Belle's
Rocky in that look too. Oh I got you man.
I'm probably gonna have that to our music. That's a
good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so weird.
Speaker 2: Like those Gambler guys they sit down like they're there
to watch just the game, right, because they look surprised
and series there. But clearly if they're fans, like they're
they're paying money to see this game, you would think
that maybe they would be falling up and see like, oh,
this guy's kicker, Like I thought, oh, they're showing up
to get them, but they look surprised to see them there.
So like it's so weird this whole storyline, Like, well
I even do this. I guess it sets up that, yeah,
I want the ball, I want to win, but like
that's that's all it does.
Speaker 4: Even the John Favrell character, I feel like there was
more to him that got cut out. It's like they
had all these things and then they realized, oh, well
we got Kean, so we got we got to keep
the camera on him.
Speaker 9: So all those are some plots. Let's just cut those
right now.
Speaker 2: Hatrex was huge. Man, we got to give him that
screen time, you know.
Speaker 13: So I completely agree with everything you guys are saying.
Who is the actress who plays his girlfriend. I've never
seen her in anything, get me wrong, Like, like I
think she was really cute, Like I thought she was fun.
She was willing to like like put up with a
really dumb part, like he has nothing to do.
Speaker 1: Knowledge though, man, her football knowledge, Yeah, she should be then.
Speaker 9: With the super cheerleaders that never came back either.
Speaker 2: No, just that one game when they're like humping each
other and spanking each other and like distracts the team.
Speaker 11: I've never seen her.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that she's done a bunch of TV swingers.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, he meets.
Speaker 13: Her, Okay, so she's never another Fabreau friend. He meets
her at the bar, and he's the girl who he
leaves like twenty messages on her answering machine. Oh, she's like,
don't ever call me again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So it's that and this and then after this,
she's like a bunch of TV. But I thought for
years because I've always threatened to watch this and I didn't.
When I saw the cover, and it's like Gene Hackman
who's just like photoshop, like randomly there, like they just
go it's just a scene from the movie. And that's
Kean with this girl. It's always like her from the
back or the side. So I thought, oh, it must
be some big nineties actress and yeah, same thing. It's
something that i'd never seen before. And then other than
I guess Swingers, which I haven't seen a while or after.
So but yeah, she's done a bunch of TV. She's
still like acting. She's in stuff. I think she's done
like a couple like uh like Wholemark movies and everything.
So she's still still get work, you know, GV movie.
Sure we're getting current reunite her and Keith David together.
But yeah, Clay continue on what do you what are
you going any more thoughts on replacements?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 13: Not really, I think I've said every day like, perfectly
fun movie.
Speaker 11: I don't know. I think it was a good time.
And I echo the recitsions Love. He's hilarious.
Speaker 13: It's so stupid, uhay On Love is my guy.
Speaker 11: Favro cracks me up. It is such a dumb movie.
And I had a perfectly good time watching. That's all.
Speaker 4: So many Neil drops too, I was counting the seconds
in between them. Sometimes it would be like one song
would end and the next one would immediately kick in.
Like there was like a triple shot of that going
on in the games.
Speaker 2: They ran the budget. There's two songs they played back
twice throughout.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say when when recypherens every time he
scores a field goal, they like play that one song.
I don't know what song it is. It's not the
old a song that he keeps singing. It's like a
different one. Yeah, I watched it earlier today. I can't
remember what song it is. But yeah, they just kept
replaying whatever songs.
Speaker 2: But they did they leave impression on you. Kirkly watched
The Day in Rotation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched it today. I thought I had seen
this movie before, but I definitely have not. I thought
this was invincible with.
Speaker 2: I would never made you No, I would never may
watch that. I would. I went on a double date
during that movie. The Quick Aside for Equal Kirkland, I
literally did not have a ride. My friend rove me
there and he said, oh, it's gonna creat You're gonna
love her. Me and this girl did not click whatsoever.
And this is like in the middle school, high school,
high schooler. I guess, and it's like like you like, oh,
we're gonna hold hands. I don't know why I'm holding
this girl's hand. I just met her. We haven't talked.
It's just a double date. And I didn't because I
didn't have a ride. But I remember I was like,
I wa wash him. I walked outside the theater and
I was like, how long would it take for me
to walk home? I was close to leaving the date
and this movie because I was not like in the state.
I was not like the movie, and I could not
wait for it to be over. I eventually cowardly like, okay,
I'll go back in. I don't want leave my friend alone.
But I was like, I was like Walter White. I
was like pacing back and forth, like how do I
get at us? How do I get do I say
I'm sick? Do I do this? And my mom was
working too, so I couldn't call her come pick me up?
Like I was fucked. I was like I was game
over for me, so I had to sit there and
do this double date. Never saw this girl ever again.
It was that's good you bring up trauma for bring
up Invincible, and I remember the movie and it ends
right when he joins the team and it's just like
they give them all text. It's over. It's like, what
that's it?
Speaker 3: Like kickoff the end of the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's fucking legal.
Speaker 10: What percentage sorry, quickly, what percentage was the date? And
what percentage was Invincible that was making you want to leave?
Speaker 13: Was it like?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: I'd actually say it was like a fifty to fifty
because the movie just bort me. I didn't like it,
and I was just annoyed the whole time by the
date thing, because I think at first it was just
we're gonna see this movie, and then it's like, oh,
like this girl like is gonna come along, and you
know she has a friend. It's like, no, man, Like
that's the worst type of setup. It's like you just
want to like just just say just cancel on me
and say you want to go to this movie with
your girl? Like that's really I think what it was
is we had plans, but his girl that he was
either trying to woo want to see it was just
like just leap being home. We can go see another
movie another time. And I don't think I even want
to see Invincible, because I just talked about I'm not
a sports movie guy, so here I am look like
fucking Homeland or in the theater, and I just I
just remember the next Oh yeah, her friends, they didn't
talked to her much. It's like, yeah, I know interest
in this person, Like I've never met her. You asked
me to hold her hand. I was nice as a gentleman.
I did it, but god damn it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kirk continued, he was probably too nervous to go
on the date alone, so he needed back up. That's
probably the real reason. Maybe I don't know, but yeah,
So I thought this was Invincible, a movie that I
haven't seen since the first time I've seen it, but
I remember liking it. So I was like, oh, it's
gonna be fun fun, rewatch I do like sports movies?
Remember The Titans, one of my all time favorites. Denzel
come on, he's fantastic. Yeah, and I kind of thought
it was gonna be like one of those where it's
like a feel good I mean, it is an underdog story,
I guess. But right away, like the first opening scene
when he's on his boat and then go scuba diving,
He's like scrumming off the barnacles and then he finds
the trophy in the water and grabs the football and
he like stops his foot and he's calling plays and
he's like he's just pretending to be a quarterback underwater.
I honestly thought this was gonna be like a top
secret level like spoof movie. Like I thought it was
gonna be that level of ridiculous things going on where
they're just playing football underwater. It doesn't make any sense
at all, just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Building the Dolorean over there. He's going back in time
trying to win the fantasy draft.
Speaker 1: I know who to draft, But uh, yeah, this was
this was a wild movie. I I thought it was okay. Uh,
I don't know. I feel like if I watched it
back in the day, I would have left a lot
more impressiable memory of like, Oh, I really liked that movie.
Speaker 3: I like Keanu.
Speaker 1: You know, there's some good moments in it.
Speaker 12: It.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like a Nightties movie for sure, And.
Speaker 2: Uh it's two thousands. That's the thing.
Speaker 11: I think.
Speaker 1: I was surprised I didn't laugh more than I did.
John Favreau is definitely one of my favorite parts of
this he was just such a wild card and I
didn't know what was gonna happen.
Speaker 2: He's just playing the character from four Seasons almost like
he's done this character a few times, like the big
like juiced up guy that's really angry, you know, he
likes that a setting.
Speaker 3: Is he?
Speaker 9: I think he is.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that movie in a in a long time.
I feel like that one does not hold up.
Speaker 9: Probably not. I'm not gonna test that theory.
Speaker 11: He plays the same character in four Christmases and like the.
Speaker 2: All right, he's best man, best man? What's one him
and Jason Siegal. Yeah, I love you man, that's what. Yeah,
he's like he's all like funny and he always is
the same, like buzz cut and everything. If he's buzz
cut that you know what favre you're going And it's
just funny. I'm watching this movie and I know there's
many people that are included in it, but he's just
tackling doing all this stuff off. He's like making eyes
of this his black player, and you don't know are
they making him racist or not? They never answer that,
by the way. He just stares at his black guy
for half an hour, and it's very uncomfortable by just
watching him. Like this guy started the MCU. You know
this guy he directed Iron Man and we were seeing Douesday.
He hes happy, he brought Star Wars the TV. Yeah,
he's direckeding the Friends moving seven years. It's just like
it's it's that like jokes. I know what a crazy
career that guy has had, like even just stuff like
me he pops up, yeah, Chef, like he pops up
in fucking Friends for like a five episode arc. Like
it's the most random stuff ever.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: So Chef good, Chef and Burnt, the one Chef's very good.
Speaker 2: Never seen that poster. That poster for Burnt turned me
off right away. It looks like Badley Cooper's trying to
sell me something, you know, like Chef, Chef's good, Burnt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've never seen it, but yeah, I what
was I gonna say?
Speaker 2: Uh Gen.
Speaker 1: Gene Hackman, I I love him and Superman. So to
have him in here, it was just like a complete
It was like a ginger ale left out for three days,
like no bubbles left. It was just so flat. I
think he like looks like a good coach on the side,
like like like you know, like with the mustache, like
he just looks like that.
Speaker 3: Era of football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the football logistics didn't make any sense at all,
but like just thinking of like, man, it wasn't that
long ago where they just didn't have headsets in the
quarterbacks helmet, like just calling plays such a different, different idea,
not that long ago. So that that, you know, made
me think, and that was that was my only real
football thought about this.
Speaker 2: I was happy I was having Man gone there too,
you know.
Speaker 1: I liked that it was reminded me of like the
the aughts Madden games when like his voice would be
like pick this play, like fuck man, oh.
Speaker 2: It's coming back. The second family agrees to AI, John
Man is gonna be all You're gona be able to
play as John Mann.
Speaker 1: Get that chicken that we saw today.
Speaker 11: I love the John Madden narrating the kiss. When I
know we talked about it earlier. I thought it was
so funny I was dying.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Also, this movie oddly enough made me want to watch Dodgeball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought about it's definitely the Dodgeball is definitely
the better version of this movie. I feel like more
funnier and more like it's just like even though I
think the last time I watched I didn't love it
as much as I did as like a youth. Yeah,
it definitely has.
Speaker 1: Been it didn't age as well, but wow, wild but
that one has.
Speaker 9: The nostalgia hooks and me, so that's why I might
be more And Ben Stillerman.
Speaker 2: Ben Stiller's delivering at an all time level right there.
You know he in the two thousands, either he was
on or the cocaine was really good. But Ben Stiller
could not be touched like Zoolander that you know, like
he he's doing wild stuff so that I've still mad
we never got the mission possible with him and Tom Cruise, like.
Speaker 11: Love that behind the scenes ship.
Speaker 2: Oh so good. Yeah he could have been great in here,
But mad.
Speaker 11: Have you heavyweights for Yeah?
Speaker 6: I have?
Speaker 2: They played on Disney all the time. It's definitely him.
He's playing the same Dodgeball character like it's it's almost
like the same pa. Yeah, and it's a great setup
because his his real life mom and dad are in
the movie and they play the people that run the
camp and they set it up. They're like very nice,
like well we love these kids and we love everything
we do. And then he comes in and he's just
a fucking.
Speaker 3: Raging ball in that movie.
Speaker 2: And yeah he's just being mean these kids and stuff.
But yeah, they used to play it on the Canadian
Disney Channel here like all the time. I think technically
it is a Disney movie.
Speaker 4: Rights he's written written by.
Speaker 2: That tracks actually for like that, I just feel like
and would still averd that tracks is like the early
It's like when you watch because I talked about this
all the time, like early in Living Color and you
see Jim Carrey, it's like his whole career is there.
You see like everything he's going to become later on
like this like just genetic jackhammer of just facial expressions
and movements and all this stuff. But uh, yeah, heavyweights
have not seen in a good minute. Definitely. I got
to watch at some point. So Maddie, what do you
think about replacements?
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's the it's the exact situation some of you
guys described. I basically saw it when I was when
I was a kid, I saw it growing up. So
it definitely has that, uh that nostalgic vibe to it.
And it's not a classic movie by any means, but
it's it's a classic in my mind when you refer to,
you know, a classic that you you saw as a kid.
You know it was a classic in your mind growing up.
But it's obviously a quality quality why is not up
to part But it's an enjoyable watch. I was happy
when you chose it because honestly, you haven't seen it.
I can't tell you the last time I saw it,
so it's so ironic that you chose it not having
seen it.
Speaker 3: And like you know, half half of.
Speaker 10: The league was genuinely pumped, like I know Clay was,
and even John John had seen it. He was excited.
So yeah, and for the end of the rest of
you guys, it was it was the first time watched
it was It was a fun choice. It was a
fitting choice, you know, even with the football season ending. Yeah,
I was in that football mood, so I was kind
of kind of amped. Uh in my opinion, It's better
than Invincible. Sorry, sorry, Mike, I know you like it,
but I will not die on that hill.
Speaker 2: It's fine next year if Mike Lindsay's yeah, that's a
good time.
Speaker 10: I drotted down a few notes for for all the
movies for replacements, I did not Clay's the one who
brought it up, Shane Falco.
Speaker 3: Just very cool character name and quarterback name.
Speaker 10: I love it and as a kid always remembered them
recruiting a soccer player as a field goal kicker. Genuinely,
I'm curious we don't see it ever happened in the NFL.
I feel like we're going to see it happen one day, honestly, because.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's been like former like collegiate soccer
players that have been NFL kickers. I can't name you one,
but I feel like that's.
Speaker 3: Respont there Rugby right, yeah, rugby punters. Yeah, I know.
I would love to see it. Honestly, I'm surprised that
someone hasn't taken taken.
Speaker 1: Christian Ronaldo at the age of forty one.
Speaker 2: See what I take for this movie. I'd love to
see like Asuma wrestler as a linebacker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sc eggs what a character?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 9: What name?
Speaker 11: What did that guy's name again?
Speaker 1: Is Jumbo?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Jump throwing up on the field.
Speaker 1: Man, that's just scoring eggs down. I'm like this, this
is wild. I'm like, I can't do that before I
go to work. Let a little like tackle people and
then turn up he throws up and I'm like, yeah,
that's that's exactly what I thought was gonna happen.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then the two of the last two notes
that that the soccer player as a kicker. And I
always remember the scene of a Favril because just he's
just a cycle in this movie one day when Gene
Hackman tells him, go get me the ball. I want
the ball, you know, and he he instantly goes and
stripped the guy and gets the fumble recovery.
Speaker 3: So that always stuck with me.
Speaker 10: And on this watch, which I didn't recall, it was
the what clache shout it out? John Madden narrating Falco
making his move.
Speaker 3: It was so cheesy, but I loved it. I thought
it was I thought it was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I could stop thinking. Who was the villain's name, Malick,
like the quarterback whatever his name was. Yeah, I'm like, man,
this is just this is just Aaron Rodgers right here.
This is his characters reminded me I was just getting
mad at his team, his players aren't working out. He's like,
I got two super Bowl rings.
Speaker 9: He's cause he crossed the picket line.
Speaker 2: Rogers for sure, playing the Weekend I don't have to
get back, all right, Yeah, we're good to go. Yeah, alright,
now we've come to the end. Kirkland tell us why
picked Dusk?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean the Survivor series ended pretty early
on in the season. I feel like it was the
first quarter.
Speaker 2: It was longer next year, and only like three weeks
of it or something. Everyone that quick.
Speaker 1: I feel like I was at that point in the season.
I was still didn't start hot, but I'm like, I'm
feeling good. I'm feeling good this year. You know, there's
some potential. I think we're still making the playoffs. It's
potential out there. And I was just feeling good, and
I was just feeling like, like cocky, like I wanted
to put you guys through some punishment there. And one
movie that just instantly came to mind was Tusk. And
I had only seen this movie one other time before this.
I had heard this movie before because my dad watched
it and told me about it and it just sounded
so funing weird, and he he watches weird movie like
I watched fu up movies with him. But I feel
like the like the ones that filter through the cracks
that we I don't watch like he just he just
watches them. Rubber Has anybody seen Rubber but the Killer? Yes,
there you go. So he's the one that told me
about that movie stuff like that. But uh, you decided
to throw this on when I think my sister my
brother in law were at their place. I was there
with Shay. This is like early on.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: The other one that we watched, Travis, the one that
we watched with this like exact same setting of people
was what was the Broms movie? Was it The Boy
with the.
Speaker 9: Just the Boy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Boy, the same thing, Like we all watched
that as a family. It's just I don't know why
we picked these movies. Was the one we threw on.
I think we double featured it with get Out. That
was the first time I've seen get Out. Tusk very similar,
but followed up with so we started.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's fine, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how early were you in a dating Shay at
this point? Like she had houses? Not two years? Okay,
that's fine. First year. She's getting the funk out of here.
You guys don't live together. Your dad's putting on Tusk.
Speaker 1: Very much, not her movie very much.
Speaker 2: Not rarely anybody's Ruin.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, I mean I feel like he told me it
was like Kevin Smith, so it was like someone interested.
Johnny Depp played like a wild role in it, so
that's I was eating that up. And I love Justin Long.
I love Justin Long.
Speaker 2: I loved him back in the day and like he's
a two thousand kid love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like common rolls him as accepted, Like I
love that movie too as a kid.
Speaker 2: He's so perfect is he could play the lovele loser
or the most douchious guy in the world, like look
at Barbarian.
Speaker 1: Like this point of of his his career, even like
his small role in uh Weapons, Yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
I just want to keep seeing Justin Long in these
roles and uh in here. Yeah, he's he's he goes
through the ringer and oh my god, what's the name Michael.
Speaker 2: Parks right, Michael Park's great Michael Parks Man.
Speaker 1: Such a fucking canon cannon ball performance. And that in
the dinner scene when when they're like doing the interview
like we were talking about, it's like twenty minutes long.
He is just so fucking terrifying when he's like yell
at like when he's screaming for help, and he's just
like doing it back to him, just mocking him.
Speaker 2: It's just so intense and just so long when the
first time he like makes that neither and then just
like you're fucked. Man, Parks is like getting like he's
getting more there. He was going for it. He was
not phony in at least Michael Parks.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, one hundred percent. And then it and then
it goes to the point like, while I was watching
it is like, are they really going to do the
whole Walrus thing? And yeah they do. They do the
one v one showdown Waller's form it is. It is
an original movie for sure. It's very very unique, and
I'm glad you guys saw it and we could talk
about it. It felt like a punishment type movie, nowhere
near to the Serbian film levels I would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought about going full Meme when I won
and picking that for everyone and watch they could a
bond together, Like no, so make make sure I get
some good draft picks next year. And I won't to
do that, but I'll go because I think I'm gonna
leave Mike flast because I feel like he's bottling some
thoughts and so I've just seen his face. I'm leaving
my glass on test. I had seen Tess because my
relationships weird with kems Smith where I've seen a couple
of movies younger, but that's like the same thing. Didn't
know directors were just saw his movies, and then I
feel like in the two thousands he's amid this, like
he kind of had a stage where he was just
kind of annoying and he was just like very kind
of pretentious, and I did not like Ken Smith. And
the only time I circle back to Kem Smith was
when I saw the first season A Daredevil because he
got the screener early no one because it was a
binge drop. No one had reviewed Daredevil yet and was
talking about it. So that's how I found my way
back as he reviewed the first season A Daredevil, and
then I started like his podcast more. Then I kind
of found out that he kind of admitted like, yeah,
he was kind of jerk at this point and changed
some stuff, and so I was like, okay, and there's
still some stuff in his filmography I need to get
back around to seeing. But I was in the situation
where like, Okay, I'm a bit more warmer up to him,
and I'd heard about this movie before I saw it,
and at that point I heard it it was on
one of those like worst films of this year, like
it's on all those type of liistic worst film that decade.
So the first time I watched it, I think I
just was like prepped and I did not think it
was that bad. I don't know if I I have
to look at the year it came out and everything
and think about it. But I can see why if
someone said this is the worst movie they've ever seen,
I would not argue the may Okay, I could understand
your point of view. I don't necessarily like this. I
think I planned this probably to be my last watch.
I think I don't know if I'll come back around,
Like Michael Parks is good knit, but I'll just watch
kill Bill or some other stuff he's done in the past,
you know, Like.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 2: So the first time I watched it thought, oh no,
I think I actually like this more than a lot
of other people. I appreciate that it is original. I
do appreciate that he went for it with the Walrus.
I actually appreciate the sad ending. I actually liked the
ending of the movie when his friends look at him
and he's just a fucking sad waalvers and whatnot. But
then I think this time and I do like and
I appreciate. I appreciate the passion because I love in
the credits when they play the podcast of him and
Scott Moser talking about what if they did that? And
now that we've done this, me Kirkly with hair have
been that situation where like, we talk about stuff. I
think this has showed me the dangers of that though,
and you got to like you gotta find that scope
of like a stupid fun idea and like, hey, what's
an actual story idea? So I think this time they'll
watching it. I was like, yeah, I don't really enjoy, Like,
I don't enjoy I don't even know if I enjoyed
it the first time, but I think I just went
in with so many people tell me this is one
of the worst things I've ever seen, and I saw
I think I've seen worse to this time, and this
is probably like ten nine years later. I was like,
you know what, this was hard to get through. It
took it, it felt long, and it also definitely it's
a I think it was like a full two hours
or was it our forty whatever it was, definitely could
have been. It could have been cut down for sure.
Like we talked about that scene multiple stuff. You didn't
need the whole storyline of his girlfriend's sleep with Haley
Joel Osmond, like that went nowhere. Like there's so much
stuff that just I don't know. I like justin Longsa
Helps and there's there's some some funny stuff. I like,
I'm oh, another scene that's just fucking brutal. Oh my god,
the flashback of Johnny Depp and Michael Parks take that
all out. That scene, I feel like I'm being waterboarded.
It goes on, Yeah, on the porch. It's not funny.
It's stuff that I know that Kevin Smith, and this
is at the era where.
Speaker 9: He was doing a lot of Gum Tree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew he was laughing his fucking ass off.
Go listen to those episodes with him Scott Motion, listen
to scan BC. He will laugh about the stupidest shit,
which all must do. But this was him putting on
film and it's like, we don't like this joke, but
he keeps going. So this film I think, even like
one p. Fifteen it would be like way more like
palpable but here, oh it was, yeah, more of a
tough watch.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 2: I still like give it like a fifty percent pass
just based on like passion creativity, like that's about it.
But like I would just give it that like a
five out of ten for me. So yeah, Clay, what
was your experience with uh what TuS? Was it your
first time? Second time?
Speaker 11: It's been a while now, like since I watched this.
Speaker 13: It was my first time watching it, but I'm trying
to recollect my thoughts, and I remember thinking the first
twenty twenty minutes were kind of funny, and then I
remember hearing Yeah, I remember hearing about this movie like
back in I don't know, maybe I was in middle
school when this came out, and I remember like this
is one of those like there's twenty fourteen and okay,
yeah so late no early high school?
Speaker 11: Yeah, high school.
Speaker 13: So yeah, I remember like this was in that same
camp of like human Centipede and two girls, one cuff
and like all.
Speaker 11: That stuff like oh have you seen this shit? It's wild?
And I never fired it up back then.
Speaker 13: So yeah, watching it watching it as an adult by
myself was an annoying experience this ship. It was kind
of funny for the first twenty minutes and it was
so drawn out and there's so much yelling and yeah,
I don't know, like nothing is satisfying whatsoever, and you
like you take it justin Like Justin Long is really
good at a lot of things. You cripple him and
you don't let him do anything. You just make him
yell like a maniac like you just like Justin Long,
Like what are you doing?
Speaker 11: I love Justin Long. Stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you almost could put like a worse actor in
that role and seeing him for something else, Like I
get he has to be in the beginning, but it's
like the beginning is on right that long and talk
about like jump scares, we're talk the people in this
movie always forget like I get why because their dad's
in there. But Lily rose Down just pops up and
it's just so crazy like she's in here and then
like you know, ten years later she mean nos raw
too giving this like all star performance, but you watch
her here it's like, man, like I don't have to
be mean, but I'm a good thing. You got away
from Smith and this era, I think like they still
been yoga daughters in there too. Yeah, Harley Quinn. Yeah,
I think they're best friends in real life too. Yeah,
I think they're close. And I think that's how him
and Johnny matt and that's how I think it was.
I think that was the case that she's in this
movie and somehow Johnny's like, oh, like then they started
talking about and he became the detective and everything. So yeah,
that's something, Maddy. Your thoughts on Tusk.
Speaker 3: I'll be on an island on this one. Boys, I
unapologetically enjoy this.
Speaker 2: He's too Canadian, he likes it.
Speaker 10: You know, it's the second time I've watched it, but
it's been a while. I think I watched it. You
said it came out in fourteen.
Speaker 2: I think twenty fourteen.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, either fifteen or sixteen, so not too long after.
It falls apart a bit in the third act, but
I genuinely enjoy the build up.
Speaker 3: Once he turns into the Walrus.
Speaker 10: From there kind of kind of goes downhill in terms
of enjoyment, but like the first half of it, I
I genuinely enjoy it. Even when it's just the two
of them talking, it gets it gets wacky and his
yelling as a walrus is super annoying, but it's it's
a good time. Besides, you know, Mike's gonna get to it.
But when a certain character shows up again, it kind
of There's some scenes that I.
Speaker 3: Check out a bit, but for the most part, it
was enjoyable. It was I don't hate. I gave it
like a three point five, so that's pretty high. It's
a good time. When Kirklin named it, I was I
was excited. I was like, you know what I'm doing
to rewatch this?
Speaker 10: And and I got the vibe from Kirklin, I think
exactly what he described that he was just out for
blood and he as as he won that pool, he
instantly had tusk fucking loaded up and ready.
Speaker 3: He's like, you guys are you guys are all? Well,
you're gonna watch this and sit through this?
Speaker 6: He was.
Speaker 3: He was ready to go.
Speaker 1: So I knew at least somebody had never heard of
it before, and that that's like, if you can get
somebody watch this. I've never seen it or like heard
it or looked into it at all.
Speaker 2: And John, yeah, he said, you said, John on big
Time And he said that.
Speaker 1: He's like, never heard of it.
Speaker 3: I'm like I was.
Speaker 1: I was fropping at them.
Speaker 3: Even Sam, Sam, I think gave it a pretty uh score.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I should. I should try to find Yeah,
we should try to find it. He he had to
leave us. So every time you want to read it off,
no you can't. I don't have it right now if
you have it, yeah, So he.
Speaker 10: Gave it one star, so one out of five, you
give it less than me. Really enjoyed justin long for
half an hour, great humor, then he goes. That's where
it ends for me. A great punishment film if you
want to annoy somebody. So so you enjoyed the first
the first act, you know at least, and then it
goes when it gets wacky, that's where it loses on
people for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, def definitely. Have you seen your hoss, Maddie.
Speaker 3: No, That's why I was waiting for Mike to go.
Speaker 10: But Mike, after your rant, you're gonna have to tell
me how this compares to yoga holsers, Like which one,
which one you think is worse?
Speaker 3: That's what I'm curious to know.
Speaker 2: And Mike's the floor is yours?
Speaker 9: Okay. So I'm a I was a big Kevin smith fan.
I watched all of the oldest movies. Yes, you know,
mal Rats, Clerks, all those stuff that it.
Speaker 2: Was good, good with essential geek movies, you know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would watch those.
Speaker 4: I would have like a bunch of like rotation movies
I'll put on the background. I was playing video games.
Those would be some of them. Yeah, and uh, then
he went weird when he did Red State, which was
not terrible, it put its a weird move for him.
And then when he announced Tusk, I was like, Okay,
it sounds like he's blending kind of the Whore and
the Colmedy together. Let's see what he does. Watched it
when it came out on on I guess it was
the stream back then. I watched it somehow, I don't
remember how. It wasn't in theaters. And we were talking
about magic tricks before the with the sheets. This movie
is a magic trick because for the first half of
this movie, he genuinely makes you think you're watching something good.
Speaker 9: I was invested.
Speaker 4: I like, justin long Michael Park comes out of nowhere
and gives a better performance than this movie ever deserved.
I actually like the dialogue and that scene you're talking
about it goes on for too long. I liked how
they committed to the bit and I appreciated that. Yeah,
then we meet get up point. Played by Johnny Depp
in What Is I would dare to say the most
I've hated a fictional character in my entire life. My
blood boiled every time he was on screen. That scene
where it's him and Michael Parks, who is for some
reason playing a weird, simple Jack type character, and they
are just going back and forth for what feels like endless,
endless minutes. I am ready the things I can't say here,
but it is without question. If I had to make
a list the top three worst scenes in cinema history,
that scene would be honest.
Speaker 9: It was pure unmitigated torture.
Speaker 2: It feels like John purgatory. You're just like remember Jack
Sparrow at World's End when he's stuck in that like area.
That's what that seems like. You're just stuck there forever.
Speaker 4: Johnny Depp deserves every bad thing that happened to him
after making this movie.
Speaker 9: For owing this movie.
Speaker 4: He should have had his bed shot in every night
for the rest of his life. For giving us this character.
Speaker 9: It is horrendous. Nothing after can save this movie.
Speaker 4: I give it a one point three just because that
first half managed to be somewhat entertaining.
Speaker 9: Fucking up point he definitely should have that was that
was embarrassing. Embarrassing.
Speaker 13: But in that movie, I totally thought during the first
half that the girlfriend was the gal from and Or
and hit Man and it's not.
Speaker 11: Likely got marked it correct, And I was like, oh,
I feel like an asshole.
Speaker 2: So in twenty fourteen, Maddie Uh joined At was nominated
for a Razzie, but it was for The Lone Ranger,
not this, not this movie the nominees were. The winner
was Jane Smith for After Earth. It was Joined At
the Lone Ranger, Ashon Kutcher and Jobs, Adam Sandler and
Grown Ups two Yeah, and then Sylvester Sloan for a
bolt Aheads Escape, Plant and Grudge Match. So there you go.
Speaker 4: Oh he got multiple movies, but didn't really no one
because no one watched tous that's the problem.
Speaker 2: See, that's why the lot that took out that year.
Oh wait, actually no, I guess's be in the wrong year,
right twenty fourteen. That probably be tme about twenty thirteen.
Speaker 9: Right twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, because the winner that years movie for A three.
That's okay. Yeah, So let me go to twenty fifteen,
so I apologize. Maybe I was around there. Let's see
if he made it in that.
Speaker 9: I don't care.
Speaker 2: He's going to be no, because I think it was
so under No, Adam Sandler was back. No, it was
Why have you heard this? Kirk Cameron won for worst
active for Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas. What the fuck is that?
Speaker 9: That's probably some kind of religion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nicholas Cage for Left Behind, Callum Lutz for the
Legend of Hercules, Seth MacFarlane a Million Ways to Dine
in the West, and then Adam Sandler for Blended, and
then the worst films that year were The winner was
Kirk Cameron Saving Christmas. I'll bring it up left Behind,
the Legends of Hercules, Transformers, Aged Extension and the Live
Action Teenage Music and Turtles. Oh, I feel like I've
seen this this Kirk post or. Oh, I don't like this.
This is bringing some bad thoughts into my mind.
Speaker 3: You've seen the movie?
Speaker 2: Just no, just a post nothing. I'm not seeing this movie, Maddie.
Speaker 3: Like, what the fuck?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I win next year, that's no.
Speaker 2: Was he Jesus? Was he Jesus or something? Oh yeah,
I should never showed Kirkland this, but it's gonna come up.
But yeah, So Mike to his question, how does Yoga
Hols compare this, which maybe could come up the next
couple of years, as I I see that one. No,
I haven't seen it going okay, so yeah, no, I
saw it short, so it could we could be talking
about in the next five years here.
Speaker 4: As a movie a pound for pound, it's definitely one
worse than Tusk. And there's nothing redealed about that movie whatsoever.
Austin Butler, that's one of his early roles, it is.
I'm happy he got saved from that though, so, but
I will say nothing in Yogo Hosters is worse than
not one scene in Tusk.
Speaker 2: That's fair. No, I I agreed that, And that's just
like Ken Smith really Kevin Smith just really wanted to
play a Nazi brought worse as well too, like he
had so much fun doing that. I don't know if
it's fun watching it. I've seen it once, I barely remember,
and I thought it was like, I think that's why too,
Like it's bad, but there is like you said, there's
nothing even good memorable perks there.
Speaker 9: Which is what saves Tusk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so you don't have any of that,
And like I get it. Kevin Smith has obsession with Canada.
This is my point, whereas a Canadian say, like, sure
there's many some places like that, but this is definitely
like kevin'sm this chim was like like what he thinks
Canada is all along, Like he's been to a couple
of places in Canada and he thinks it's all like
I'm saying the word about none of us are saying
the word of fucking a boot, you know, and like
and that and like all the way like like the
shops with all the like the well maybe there's some
anti American stuff now, but back then at this point,
like the we don't have the blue we just said
the random like all the all the stuff that comes
with is like created in his like multi versus Canada.
It's like, oh, and if you think Justin.
Speaker 9: Long is bad, in Tusk, he is way worse than
yoga hosers. He plays the yoga instructor.
Speaker 2: Oh I forgot about that.
Speaker 9: He plays not seeing it.
Speaker 2: Oh god, well I would wait because again they might
you might have to next year.
Speaker 9: Clear if you didn't like Austin Butler and caught stealing,
you're gonna hate him in this.
Speaker 2: Yeah I forgot about that. Yeah awesome. Yeah yeah, but
that's just such a it is a bad it was
just like forgettable.
Speaker 3: It's just for the Elvis, all right.
Speaker 2: If it's before yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Kevin Smith had it when he had the talent, you know,
he got a hold of him then. But yeah, I
know it's probably for the best. He has a new
Moose Jaws. I'd still like to see it one day, but.
Speaker 9: I'd say he bounce back from that period.
Speaker 2: I think so. But I wonder. I wonder if he's
at because I feel like he's just it feels like
that Hollywood thing where it's the Michael Keaton Birdman thing
where he's trying to be a new artist and they're like, hey,
when you do a bird bang as well, I think
we're doing like a number two or something like we're
talking about like Ken Smith did all this stuff that
he was passionate about, but then he just went back
to like, Okay, well I'm gonna do like another Jane
sim Bob and then I'm gonna do another Clerks now
while I'm doing another Jane Science.
Speaker 4: He was passionate about Clerks three though. I heard a
couple of his interviews about that, and it was like
I really wanted to do I.
Speaker 2: Think, especially because he tied that a lot to his
heart attack because he said the original script was super dark.
So I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 9: I just was like, yeah, I just got some motion
to it.
Speaker 2: I just were that is he just like he does
kidding only get finance for the like, oh, you're making
another movie in your universe, Like, yeah, I'm doing that.
I yet to have not seen that movie he made
in the Theater though, I've not seen that where it's like, okay,
was it okay? Yeah, I haven't Yeah, yeah, is it
supposed to be like mall Rats in the Theater kind.
Speaker 9: Of right, It's the one of his movies I haven't
seen yet.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Either. I just just feel like i'd have to see,
like because it's like very like young person type of
I just feel like he can't I'm not sure to
be move like he can't like talk about that generation
like he's not the maall Rats and Clerks say that
was his era, like he was really like in tune
that we're now he's making movies about young people. It's like,
I don't think this is the right, can't right. He's
doing Dogma two apparently, so that I'm interested in. Yeah,
why does this IMDb say Moose Jaws came out, it
has a rating and everything. It always says it came out,
But then the post is coming soon. People have rated
it five point three in IMDb, but it's not even out.
I don't know he had that NFT movie too, Oh right, yeah, yeah,
right now he's doing Dogma to Jane Simon, Bob Star
Wars Sam and Twitch, which I don't think is happening,
and then Twilight of Them all rats. So but again
it's all like all stuff, right, Yeah, that's what I
hope he's happy. I hope it's not just like this
is all you can do now because you did he
like should be in director's jail for Tuskan Yos Horbes, right,
But it's because he's such a following, That's why. It's
not because people will come up to those movies, but
most directors, like look at Gore Rovinsky, he directs the
fucking what was the last was Lone? Ranger something else,
and he's finally as well, yeah, yeah, it was that
lone Ranger back to back, and then he's finally as
the movie came out this week, you know, like the
director said, like Patty Jenkins, like she's gonna be tortured
for another ten years for one of Woman Too, which
she shouldn't be, but it's like, yeah, but you did
one of them two, so like, I'm not gonna like this.
Speaker 3: Kevin Smith.
Speaker 4: The one product you're forgetting is cop Out, which he
did before he went to the Tusk and Yogo hoa stuff.
And I think that was his his bottom point because
he he hated making that movie. I saw one of
his like long talk squiggles on stage and he described
he hated working with Bruce Willis. He hated making that movie.
And I think that's really what broke him on the
big studio stuff. So after that, he was like, if
I'm gonna make a movie, I'm gonna make it cheaper,
but on my terms.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think it was both ways. I think
it broke him and I think it broke him for
them because he said that's the only movie he's ever
directed that they didn't right, So he didn't like that,
But also I think a lot of people that time
did not like the way he talked about the filming
of that stuff. That's at the same time, I remember
that him and Athlete at a falling out because he
would like just talk about stuff in the affleck we're
talking about all the like he'd make like jokes about
like him and Jennifer Garner on his podcast and all
these late night things, and he's like, dude, you can't
like me talking about my marriage like in front of everybody.
And I think, I'm sure he doesn't regret all that stuff,
but I think in the studios too, they're like, man,
we're not gonna hire Kim Smith. He's gonna go on
and just like skewer us about like, oh, this was bad.
Like I feel like it wasn't that long after the
movie came out. He's already talked about like he did
not like the movie, and as a director, he should
say it to me like years later, maybe then you
can kind of But if people are still trying to
sell this movie and it's a year and I know
him and Bruce Will said it falling on and then
they got they figured it out after the fact, because before.
Speaker 4: It's not just like like I needed to cost A
situation with the with the Marvels where she was like, oh, well,
it wasn't movie I wanted to make, but it was
still you know, it was a job. But he came
out really really against it. He was like he was
bad mouthing it to yes, any chance he got.
Speaker 2: Plus plus To be honest, I bet need A cost
got paid more than Kevin Smith for for the Marvels.
That's why I feel like it's much easier for her
to be like, yeah, it's not really my movie, but
I'm still friends with Kevin's foggy. I love Kevin, you know,
like got me that check, you know, like my checks. Yeah,
Like that's definitely I like the approach that she took, like, yeah,
doesn't mine, but like shit happens, and I moved on.
The next time she makes twenty years later, Bone Temple,
you know, and that's a great movie.
Speaker 11: So yeah, yeah, so cool story for whatever she does next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering I didn't see the Hennah movie with
Testaiton that I want to, but I feel like it's
gonna fall into my backlog of movies. Yeah, I've heard
I think I've heard like the movies good to Find,
but like Tessa Thompson's goodn't it? But like I worry
I won't have time to watch it. But I don't
know if she's anything else announced. I really worried between
the Marvels and Bone Temple that studios aren't going to
give her a shot anymore at big stuff because I
feel like they just look at that and they're like eh,
Like because now she's doing two TV shows and those
could be great. But sometimes I worry that happens directors
that have a couple of bombs, like ah, you can
go direct TV for a couple like ten years like that,
having Patty Jenkins, she directed Monster Choice there and won
an Oscar and she didn't direct a movie since then
to wonder one, like, I don't know how that happens
in Hollywood, right, and Monsters a good movie, So it's
like she was in director jail for like a Academy
Award movies. I don't know how it works sometimes, So.
Speaker 10: Travis, let me get a pick of your background before
we wrap up. Yeah, just duck out, thank you.
Speaker 2: I can also drop in the NFL discord if you
want to clear run. Yeah, is on his occasion, so
I didn't want to bug him for a photoshop or
anything like that. But I've been stewing on this one
ever since I won that bet. I'm like, I'm gonna
make this photo for sures. But uh yeah, I haven't
decided when, Kirklin, but eventually that pizza's that pizza is
gonna happen, so we'll see the time I see you, No,
that's when it's that. That's that's like next week. No,
I'm yeah, no, I'm still doing some time. There's a
chance I might wait till like GV day because at
that point, k No, there's still fucking rules on the
expiration day that that's a lie. No, I feel like
it might be good because at that point, I think
you and I will cash in our pizza with Dylan
and Taylor, so we could just kind of like a
big pizza. I'll like, you can pay for the pizza,
but I'll share it. We get like three larges and whatnot,
go double nothing, double or well, he has to find something.
I'm down for double or nothing, but we gotta find
some of the bad. I feel like Kirkland is now
a little jumper.
Speaker 1: Gets traded to the Vikings. Then I'll make my bed again.
Speaker 2: Will next year, Wow, yeah I will. I will drop
it at some point. I gotta find that picture. Yeah again,
as always everyone, thanks for being the Discord and thanks
for doing this. But then also big thank you to
Maddie who is just running all the polls you like,
get the Survivor poll this year and whatnot. So uh,
it's a fun time. It definitely makes me way more
like I like, I think somehow indirectly you made me
a Seahawks fan, not just because the Kirk mean, but
because of the draft and I'm falling their players. I'm like,
you know what, I actually like these guys and I
like this team. So it's like somehow that just kind
of happened. So a big thank you to you that
can do all that stuff. And I'm looking forward to,
uh looking forward to next year and see what happens
and see if you can two Pete or see they'll
be a new winner. And uh yeah and if if
Detail loses again, we should make them watch Saberian film again.
Every like making like a running tradition, just detall every
February is just sitting there watching right there. Actually no
low like slower, like.
Speaker 9: Thank your it's always a different website.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be clockwork orange, whereas size.
Speaker 2: Just like that's gonna be you. We're making on GVA,
we're making one of the stretch goals for our if
we Kurkle's gonna have to watch the terrifier if we
hit it. So I hope, I hope we hit it.
We'll see what happens. But that that will have a camera.
That's gonna be cameras on Kurkle. No, we're gonna be
watching together and I can't wait because he hates torture
porn and that is like the tippy top of some
stuff's there. So but no, everyone, thanks for listening, things
for playing, and yeah, I'm looking forward to next year.
And like I said, hopefully next year, I want to
try and do one in the middle of season, but
we just got busy, so hopefully we can. But if not,
it's been a great system. And uh yeah, we'll see
what movie you talk about and see what happens and
until next season, you won't be born. And you guys
have good rest of your weekend.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: No worries