Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. The most important part of the story when
it comes to Jeffrey Epstein is the fact that he
destroyed so many lives, And the truth is we've only
heard from a fraction of the people that suffered at
his hands, and over the past few months or so,
there has been a concerted effort to try and destroy
the credibility of a lot of these survivors, and they
try to be smooth about it. You have people like
Anna Paulina Luna, who has a pretty big reach right
as a congresswoman out here posting all kinds of crazy
stuff on x about the survivors being traffickers themselves. And
while there certainly was a few instances of people that
were in Epstein's circle that ended up trafficking forum after
being abused by them, Luna instead chose to use a
broad brush. She could have narrowed it down, she could
have said this one or that one, or you know,
name the core four by name. But instead she lobbed
that grenade, knowing that it would cause confusion, and that
confusion would lead to people saying that the survivors themselves
were traffickers. She's never come back out and provided any
clarity about that right or context. And you know what's
really telling about people like Anna Paulina Luna the fact
she has nothing to say about Glenn Maxwell get the
homie hook up, Because I have news for you. If
you want to be angry at somebody or people when
it comes to this case, the survivors are not the
ones to be angry at. If you're looking for somebody
to target with your anger, my suggestion is you start
with the people that actually did the abusing and the
people that helped enable that abuse. So today we have
an article from The Independent and the headline this is
my way of trying to breathe. Epstein's survivors speak out
about abuse. This article was authored by Rebecca Whittaker. Four
years Johanna Harrison lived with the shame of the abuse
she suffered at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein, but when
her name was included in the millions of documents released
as part of the Epstein Files, she felt she had
to speak up and remember all the bullshit they gave
us about all the man hours being spent to make
sure that these names were redacted. How that work out Todd.
Blanche is an absolute buffoon, and he thinks the rest
of us are gullible. Imagine trying to pitch that BS
story that he pitched us, that whole ass narrative and
doing it with a straight face. How do you go
home at night and look at yourself in the mirror, like, honestly,
the job doesn't pay that much money. What would make
you sell your soul? And in my opinion, that's exactly
what Blanche has done. It gets to a point where
you're being suffocated and you need to breathe. And I
feel that this is my way of trying to breathe,
she told BBC's Newsnight. Miss Harrison and four other Epstein's
survivors were brought together to share their stories of grief
and anger and memories of his private island, Little Saint James.
And look again, keep in mind, this is only a
small portion of the women that were abused overall. These
are the women that are coming forward and sharing their stories.
And for Joanna Harrison, she didn't even want to come forward.
She was outed in the files and once she was outed,
she decided that it was time to tell her story.
But the vast majority of these women who were girls
when they were abused, they just want to put this
behind them. They don't want this to blow up and
be a whole lass thing. They have kids of their own,
they have careers, they have things they can lose, right,
never mind bringing up all these old memories. So for
a lot of people, this is very traumatizing. And as
far as I'm concerned, people that have been abused, they
should set the timeline for when they want to talk
about things. And if they feel like they never want
to talk about it outside of, you know, their therapist
or confidant whatever, that's their business too. What should never happen,
at least in my opinion, is that the DOJ should
be outing people who wanted their names to stay redacted.
Considering we spent a whole bunch of money and man
hours to make sure that didn't happen. It's gross that
it did, and it just shows you the kind of
negligence that we're dealing with. If you can't go through
those documents and look for the survivors' names and make
sure they're redacted and do so in a manner that
is acceptable, why should we trust you with anything when
it comes to this case. You can't even do the
redactions correctly. But you investigated everything. You left no doors unopened,
no rocks overturned. I mean, come on, nobody believes that,
even though that's what they continue to pitch. Nobody believes.
She met Epstein in Florida aged eighteen, and recounted how
he raped her on his birthday. Speaking publicly for the
first time, she expressed her concerns that she and other
survivors would not get justice now that Epstein is dead.
And that's a valid concern, especially considering the history here.
Imagine being one of these survivors and being told time
and time again that people were taking you seriously, that
they were going to look into it, they were going
to find out what happened, only to be deceived once again.
Because that's what's happened with these women time and time again,
by multiple administrations, by multiple law enforcement agencies, and by
multiple people in power. So why should they think that
they're going to get justice after all these years, all
of a sudden, they're going to get justice. Another survivor,
Chantey Davies, who is a trained massage therapist, shared images
with the BBC from her time traveling with Epstein on
his private plane to Africa. They included photographs of actor
in Spacey and former President Bill Clinton, who were traveling
on a humanitarian trip to promote AIDS prevention, and it
was Chante Davies who was giving Bill Clinton that massage
in the airport photo. She recalled traveling on a once
in a lifetime trip to five different countries in five days,
but she said the experience was tainted by what was
happening behind closed doors. She said that she was raped
by Epstein on his private island after being hired to
give him massages, but she said she never considered telling Clinton, who,
while giving testimony in front of the US House Oversight
Committee in February, said he wished miss Davies had told
him about Epstein's wrongdoing. Yeah, let me go and tell
Jeffrey Epstein's buddy, Bill Clinton that I'm being assaulted. You know,
the guy that I watched on TV lie about Monica Lewinsky,
the guy that I saw being accused by multiple women. Yeah,
let me go and tell him. Can we be serious
for a minute, please, nobody's gonna run and tell Bill Clinton?
What is he? Sir, fucking Lancelot? This guy's out here
hanging out with Epstein, having a big laugh, sharing a
hotel suite. But sure, I'm going to go and talk
to you about my abuse. Being included in the Epstein
files is not an indication of wrongdoing, and the former
US president has repeatedly said he didn't witness Epstein's abuse.
Spacey has called for release of all the Epstein files,
saying for those of us with nothing to fear, the
truth can't come soon enough. Imagine being Kevin Spacey and
speaking confidently about anything that has to do with sexual
assault seems like a pretty big leap to me. The
release of the files by the US Justice Department brought
to light allegations that prompted the US state of New
Mexico to reopen a criminal probe into Epstein's or ranch
after an investigation in twenty nineteen. Miss Davies said the
ranch was where most of the assaults happened, calling it
dark and dearie. Another Lisa Phillips, also said the range
was creepy, yo, no doubt about it. I was never
in the house, but when I went to the property,
goddamn absolutely eerie as hell. It was so vast and
in the middle of nowhere, and as somebody that understands
that kind of terrain and the kind of climate that
comes with it, YO, you're in for a big trouble
if you're trying to get away, like say, you're brought
there against your will, and it's the middle of the winter,
you're in the high desert, it's going to be freezing
out and chances are there's going to be snow. And
then in the summer, forget it. You're in the desert.
It's hot and for people that aren't skilled in the outdoors,
navigating that is not easy. And it just added to
the eeriness and just the overall creep factor that the
ranch has. Miss Phillips, who was a fashion model when
she met Epstein, spoke about his connection to Charles's brother
Andrew mount Batton Winsor. She said that her friend, who
wanted to remain anonymous, was allegedly instructed to have sex
with Mount Batton Windsor in a New York apartment in
two thousand and three. The former prince, who was stripped
of his last royal titles last year over his links
to the convicted pedophile, has consistently denied all wrongdoing. That's
worked out well for him. Huh, denied all wrongdoing. Well,
we all believe you, Prince Andrew. You're exactly the kind
of truthful guy that everybody gives the benefit of the
doubt to. No, no, I hear you laughing. Don't laugh.
He's earned it. Prince Andrew is, you know, a pillar
of the community, right, Just ask him. He wasn't even
wearing the right kid to commit any kind of abuse.
The former Duke of York was arrested in February on
suspicion of misconduct and public office over accusations that he
shared confidential information with Epstein while serving as a UK
trade envoy. He remains under police investigation by Thames Valley Police,
whose officers are assessing the claims that emerged in the
Epstein files. Now, look, who knows where that's gonna go.
We've talked about that how many times now, and I
hope that they keep digging, and I think if they do,
there's plenty there. But do I think it's going to
end up with Prince Andrew rotting in a cell? I
do not. And maybe that's just the cynicism that has
been built up in me throughout the years dealing with
this nonsense that comes with Epstein. But I'm in the
show me phase. They can say whatever they want, but
I want proof. Miss Phillips told the BBC she asked
Epstein why he had made her friend have sex with
Mount Batten Windsor. She claimed that Epstein replied, I like
to have things on people. Well, that all fits. We
all know that the compromount was real, and anybody denying
it has no idea what they're talking about. Survivor Jenna
Lisa Jones and Wendy Pisanti both met Epstein when they
were aged fourteen. Miss Pisanti said that a fourteen year
old should not have the mindset of a sex worker.
And this is what I'm talking about with people like
Anna Paulina Luna. You have a girl that shows up,
she's fourteen, and she gets caught up in this nonsense.
We're gonna call her a sex trafficker. You're gonna be
more mad at her than you are at Leon Black
or Jess Staley or Andrew or Gallaine Maxwell, who they're
not talking about at all, Who they should be talking about.
You know, all these people that act like they're concerned,
Why aren't they concerned that Gallayne Maxwell is getting the
treatment that she's getting. Shouldn't that be a big deal.
Shouldn't you be talking about that instead of trying to
paint these survivors as criminals, Because, make no mistake, that's
what people are trying to do. And the whole reason
that they're trying to do that is because they know
that the credit bil factor is going to come into play,
So they're trying to preempt what survivors have to say
by trying to paint them all as not be incredible.
And I think at this point that narrative has been
shattered because people can see and hear for themselves what
went down, and now that that's happening and people are
being exposed to what these women are saying, there's no
moving on. There's only moving forward. All the information that
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