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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. The most important part of the story when

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it comes to Jeffrey Epstein is the fact that he

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destroyed so many lives, And the truth is we've only

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heard from a fraction of the people that suffered at

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his hands, and over the past few months or so,

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there has been a concerted effort to try and destroy

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the credibility of a lot of these survivors, and they

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try to be smooth about it. You have people like

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Anna Paulina Luna, who has a pretty big reach right

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as a congresswoman out here posting all kinds of crazy

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stuff on x about the survivors being traffickers themselves. And

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while there certainly was a few instances of people that

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were in Epstein's circle that ended up trafficking forum after

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being abused by them, Luna instead chose to use a

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broad brush. She could have narrowed it down, she could

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have said this one or that one, or you know,

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name the core four by name. But instead she lobbed

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that grenade, knowing that it would cause confusion, and that

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confusion would lead to people saying that the survivors themselves

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were traffickers. She's never come back out and provided any

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clarity about that right or context. And you know what's

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really telling about people like Anna Paulina Luna the fact

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she has nothing to say about Glenn Maxwell get the

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homie hook up, Because I have news for you. If

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you want to be angry at somebody or people when

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it comes to this case, the survivors are not the

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ones to be angry at. If you're looking for somebody

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to target with your anger, my suggestion is you start

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with the people that actually did the abusing and the

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people that helped enable that abuse. So today we have

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an article from The Independent and the headline this is

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my way of trying to breathe. Epstein's survivors speak out

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about abuse. This article was authored by Rebecca Whittaker. Four

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years Johanna Harrison lived with the shame of the abuse

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she suffered at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein, but when

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her name was included in the millions of documents released

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as part of the Epstein Files, she felt she had

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to speak up and remember all the bullshit they gave

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us about all the man hours being spent to make

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sure that these names were redacted. How that work out Todd.

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Blanche is an absolute buffoon, and he thinks the rest

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of us are gullible. Imagine trying to pitch that BS

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story that he pitched us, that whole ass narrative and

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doing it with a straight face. How do you go

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home at night and look at yourself in the mirror, like, honestly,

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the job doesn't pay that much money. What would make

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you sell your soul? And in my opinion, that's exactly

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what Blanche has done. It gets to a point where

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you're being suffocated and you need to breathe. And I

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feel that this is my way of trying to breathe,

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she told BBC's Newsnight. Miss Harrison and four other Epstein's

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survivors were brought together to share their stories of grief

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and anger and memories of his private island, Little Saint James.

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And look again, keep in mind, this is only a

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small portion of the women that were abused overall. These

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are the women that are coming forward and sharing their stories.

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And for Joanna Harrison, she didn't even want to come forward.

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She was outed in the files and once she was outed,

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she decided that it was time to tell her story.

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But the vast majority of these women who were girls

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when they were abused, they just want to put this

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behind them. They don't want this to blow up and

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be a whole lass thing. They have kids of their own,

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they have careers, they have things they can lose, right,

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never mind bringing up all these old memories. So for

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a lot of people, this is very traumatizing. And as

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far as I'm concerned, people that have been abused, they

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should set the timeline for when they want to talk

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about things. And if they feel like they never want

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to talk about it outside of, you know, their therapist

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or confidant whatever, that's their business too. What should never happen,

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at least in my opinion, is that the DOJ should

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be outing people who wanted their names to stay redacted.

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Considering we spent a whole bunch of money and man

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hours to make sure that didn't happen. It's gross that

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it did, and it just shows you the kind of

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negligence that we're dealing with. If you can't go through

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those documents and look for the survivors' names and make

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sure they're redacted and do so in a manner that

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is acceptable, why should we trust you with anything when

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it comes to this case. You can't even do the

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redactions correctly. But you investigated everything. You left no doors unopened,

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no rocks overturned. I mean, come on, nobody believes that,

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even though that's what they continue to pitch. Nobody believes.

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She met Epstein in Florida aged eighteen, and recounted how

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he raped her on his birthday. Speaking publicly for the

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first time, she expressed her concerns that she and other

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survivors would not get justice now that Epstein is dead.

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And that's a valid concern, especially considering the history here.

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Imagine being one of these survivors and being told time

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and time again that people were taking you seriously, that

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they were going to look into it, they were going

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to find out what happened, only to be deceived once again.

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Because that's what's happened with these women time and time again,

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by multiple administrations, by multiple law enforcement agencies, and by

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multiple people in power. So why should they think that

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they're going to get justice after all these years, all

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of a sudden, they're going to get justice. Another survivor,

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Chantey Davies, who is a trained massage therapist, shared images

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with the BBC from her time traveling with Epstein on

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his private plane to Africa. They included photographs of actor

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in Spacey and former President Bill Clinton, who were traveling

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on a humanitarian trip to promote AIDS prevention, and it

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was Chante Davies who was giving Bill Clinton that massage

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in the airport photo. She recalled traveling on a once

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in a lifetime trip to five different countries in five days,

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but she said the experience was tainted by what was

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happening behind closed doors. She said that she was raped

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by Epstein on his private island after being hired to

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give him massages, but she said she never considered telling Clinton, who,

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while giving testimony in front of the US House Oversight

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Committee in February, said he wished miss Davies had told

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him about Epstein's wrongdoing. Yeah, let me go and tell

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Jeffrey Epstein's buddy, Bill Clinton that I'm being assaulted. You know,

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the guy that I watched on TV lie about Monica Lewinsky,

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the guy that I saw being accused by multiple women. Yeah,

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let me go and tell him. Can we be serious

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for a minute, please, nobody's gonna run and tell Bill Clinton?

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What is he? Sir, fucking Lancelot? This guy's out here

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hanging out with Epstein, having a big laugh, sharing a

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hotel suite. But sure, I'm going to go and talk

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to you about my abuse. Being included in the Epstein

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files is not an indication of wrongdoing, and the former

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US president has repeatedly said he didn't witness Epstein's abuse.

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Spacey has called for release of all the Epstein files,

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saying for those of us with nothing to fear, the

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truth can't come soon enough. Imagine being Kevin Spacey and

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speaking confidently about anything that has to do with sexual

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assault seems like a pretty big leap to me. The

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release of the files by the US Justice Department brought

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to light allegations that prompted the US state of New

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Mexico to reopen a criminal probe into Epstein's or ranch

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after an investigation in twenty nineteen. Miss Davies said the

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ranch was where most of the assaults happened, calling it

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dark and dearie. Another Lisa Phillips, also said the range

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was creepy, yo, no doubt about it. I was never

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in the house, but when I went to the property,

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goddamn absolutely eerie as hell. It was so vast and

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in the middle of nowhere, and as somebody that understands

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that kind of terrain and the kind of climate that

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comes with it, YO, you're in for a big trouble

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if you're trying to get away, like say, you're brought

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there against your will, and it's the middle of the winter,

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you're in the high desert, it's going to be freezing

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out and chances are there's going to be snow. And

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then in the summer, forget it. You're in the desert.

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It's hot and for people that aren't skilled in the outdoors,

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navigating that is not easy. And it just added to

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the eeriness and just the overall creep factor that the

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ranch has. Miss Phillips, who was a fashion model when

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she met Epstein, spoke about his connection to Charles's brother

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Andrew mount Batton Winsor. She said that her friend, who

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wanted to remain anonymous, was allegedly instructed to have sex

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with Mount Batton Windsor in a New York apartment in

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two thousand and three. The former prince, who was stripped

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of his last royal titles last year over his links

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to the convicted pedophile, has consistently denied all wrongdoing. That's

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worked out well for him. Huh, denied all wrongdoing. Well,

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we all believe you, Prince Andrew. You're exactly the kind

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of truthful guy that everybody gives the benefit of the

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doubt to. No, no, I hear you laughing. Don't laugh.

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He's earned it. Prince Andrew is, you know, a pillar

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of the community, right, Just ask him. He wasn't even

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wearing the right kid to commit any kind of abuse.

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The former Duke of York was arrested in February on

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suspicion of misconduct and public office over accusations that he

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shared confidential information with Epstein while serving as a UK

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trade envoy. He remains under police investigation by Thames Valley Police,

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whose officers are assessing the claims that emerged in the

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Epstein files. Now, look, who knows where that's gonna go.

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We've talked about that how many times now, and I

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hope that they keep digging, and I think if they do,

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there's plenty there. But do I think it's going to

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end up with Prince Andrew rotting in a cell? I

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do not. And maybe that's just the cynicism that has

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been built up in me throughout the years dealing with

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this nonsense that comes with Epstein. But I'm in the

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show me phase. They can say whatever they want, but

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I want proof. Miss Phillips told the BBC she asked

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Epstein why he had made her friend have sex with

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Mount Batten Windsor. She claimed that Epstein replied, I like

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to have things on people. Well, that all fits. We

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all know that the compromount was real, and anybody denying

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it has no idea what they're talking about. Survivor Jenna

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Lisa Jones and Wendy Pisanti both met Epstein when they

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were aged fourteen. Miss Pisanti said that a fourteen year

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old should not have the mindset of a sex worker.

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And this is what I'm talking about with people like

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Anna Paulina Luna. You have a girl that shows up,

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she's fourteen, and she gets caught up in this nonsense.

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We're gonna call her a sex trafficker. You're gonna be

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more mad at her than you are at Leon Black

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or Jess Staley or Andrew or Gallaine Maxwell, who they're

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not talking about at all, Who they should be talking about.

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You know, all these people that act like they're concerned,

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Why aren't they concerned that Gallayne Maxwell is getting the

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treatment that she's getting. Shouldn't that be a big deal.

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Shouldn't you be talking about that instead of trying to

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paint these survivors as criminals, Because, make no mistake, that's

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what people are trying to do. And the whole reason

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that they're trying to do that is because they know

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that the credit bil factor is going to come into play,

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So they're trying to preempt what survivors have to say

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by trying to paint them all as not be incredible.

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And I think at this point that narrative has been

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shattered because people can see and hear for themselves what

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went down, and now that that's happening and people are

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being exposed to what these women are saying, there's no

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moving on. There's only moving forward. All the information that

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goes with this episode can be found in the description

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