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Speaker 2: That is true. That is true.
Speaker 3: Crazy that he said he's been in SAG for what
Speaker 3: forty years? Oh yeah, and he's like forty six years old.
Speaker 2: And he's thirty five, So how about that? Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's true. Who else who could we possibly be talking about?
Speaker 2: Peter Parker? No, Josh Keaton? How about that?
Speaker 1: Josh Keaton Spider Man himself, And if you're lucky he'll
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Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 1: But stay tuned and stay sticky and watch that one.
Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. He's a hell of a guy.
Speaker 1: I've known a for a long time. Yeah, he and
Speaker 1: I And I'll give you a little trivia question. What
Speaker 1: is the scariest, most ridiculous gig that I've ever had?
Speaker 1: And it was not a cartoon, but it did involve
Speaker 1: Josh Keaton.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody to another episode of Tuned In with
Speaker 3: Jim Cummings. I'm producer Chris, joined as always by the
Speaker 3: legendary Jim Cummings.
Speaker 2: How's it going, folks, and.
Speaker 3: Today we have another special guest for you, Josh Keaton.
Speaker 3: You know him from The Spider Man, you know him
Speaker 3: from many many other things. Thank you for joining us,
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: It's great to see this.
Speaker 4: Always welcome.
Speaker 2: Welcome brethren, Chrises.
Speaker 1: All right, very cool man, It's good to see you
Speaker 1: you too, Always good to see you. Back many moons ago,
Speaker 1: we had the same agent.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's true, right, I remember seeing it in the
Speaker 2: DPN in the office from Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I have to tell you one of the coolest
Speaker 1: things is I was getting ready, I'm pulling up, you know,
Speaker 1: getting ready to go in, do some auditioning, do some
Speaker 1: contract signing, whatever, and up comes this Volkswagen and it
Speaker 1: was a spider mobile. Oh no, wait, this was a
Speaker 1: Mini Yeah, the Mini Cooper, Mini Cooper. Yes, Mini Cooper
Speaker 1: even better and and I and I said, who the hell?
Speaker 1: And Josh gets out that's right, uh huh. And then
Speaker 1: he threw up shot a web up into a tree
Speaker 1: and swung into the building right over my.
Speaker 2: Head, right inside. It was awesome.
Speaker 1: And I had to go up there and I mean,
Speaker 1: you you spent some money.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I had whip on the on my
Speaker 2: license plate and yeah, yeah it was cool. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was really cool.
Speaker 3: What was the interior like?
Speaker 2: Uh, the interior was was pretty stock web. I'm a
Speaker 2: car guy. I'm a car guy, so I like modifying cars.
Speaker 2: I'll never buy another Mini again because, unfortunately, even though
Speaker 2: it was really fun to drive, from a reliability standpoint,
Speaker 2: there awful cars.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh but it was a really fun car to drive.
Speaker 2: And it had a nice flat roof. So I got
Speaker 2: this cool vinyl wrap of the artwork from Spectacular Spider
Speaker 2: Man on there and it looked great.
Speaker 1: It looked amazing. I remember it to this day.
Speaker 2: It was super cool. That was a good time.
Speaker 4: Good for you.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 3: That don't have it anymore?
Speaker 2: No, I mean the end, it blew a head gasket
Speaker 2: at like eight thousand miles, oh man, and it has
Speaker 2: no oil pressure gauge. So and apparently these engines really
Speaker 2: drink oil, so even from the factory, so you don't
Speaker 2: really know that anything's wrong with your car until the
Speaker 2: light goes on and it's too late to do it
Speaker 2: until it's dead. So they they replaced the motor and
Speaker 2: then at like sixty thousand miles it happened again. And
Speaker 2: by this time I was religiously like putting oil. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you knew, and and it still did it. So I
Speaker 2: was just like I said, haul it out here. I
Speaker 2: don't want this car anymore.
Speaker 1: So you couldn't expose it to radiation to renive it. No,
Speaker 1: I mean if I give it you know a little
Speaker 1: uh yeah, a little past, yeah, I could have cling
Speaker 1: clung to the road, clung cling, yeah, clung, yeah, yeah, clung, yes, yes, definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you may call in and let us know. That's right,
Speaker 1: because this is live at the time we're doing it,
Speaker 1: it's live. But yeah, I mean, but boy, what a
Speaker 1: legacy I mean for to be involved in something like that,
Speaker 1: you know that I get.
Speaker 2: To this day. Yeah, like that's so much of my
Speaker 2: like when I see people at conventions, so much of
Speaker 2: of the people, so many of the people coming up
Speaker 2: to me or are coming up to me for spectacular
Speaker 2: Spider Man. Absolutely, and that was my favorite superhero since
Speaker 2: I could read. Like that was the first comic book
Speaker 2: I ever picked up. It's probably been the only one
Speaker 2: I've ever really consistently read, even into my adulthood, and
Speaker 2: it's it was a dream come true to get to
Speaker 2: play that part, and it gets to play it on
Speaker 2: on a show that I mean, everybody that worked on
Speaker 2: that show was bringing their a game. Everybody loved Spider
Speaker 2: Man so and it was evident. I mean it was
Speaker 2: evident in the art style, it was evident in the
Speaker 2: writing and the quips, and it was evident and in
Speaker 2: the fact, like the thing that I loved about that
Speaker 2: show was a Spider Man fan. Is the bigger a
Speaker 2: fan you were, the more there was for you in
Speaker 2: that show. That's a good way to be. They write
Speaker 2: about that. They would absolutely take iconic covers from the
Speaker 2: comics and work it into the show, so like you
Speaker 2: could freeze frame it at a certain point and be
Speaker 2: like that's it. That's like, yeah, you know, you'd know
Speaker 2: exactly where that came from. It was really cool. And
Speaker 2: Greg Weisman was also very proud of the fact that
Speaker 2: if anybody ever spoke on the show, if they had
Speaker 2: a line, they had to have appeared in the comics
Speaker 2: at some point, even if it was like a one
Speaker 2: line janitor. Oh okay, they had a line. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: there was a comic tie back to them. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now I'm so interested in this because I've heard this
Speaker 3: talked about before, you know, even like the Marvel Cinematic
Speaker 3: Universe and everything. Do they have a role where it's
Speaker 3: like you're the comics specialist, because can they really expect
Speaker 3: everybody to read like sixty years of comics? I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, so you have to have somebody else. They
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 2: Did, and I think they I think I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: they actually had somebody that did the research. But I
Speaker 2: mean Greg would do a lot of it himself.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh so yeah, well he was a true nerd absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 2: in the best sense, in the best sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That always fascinates me. With like all the little
Speaker 3: Easter eggs and everything, I'm like, there's no way a
Speaker 3: crew of like ten thousand people we're all like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: we know every single character the comics, we all read them,
Speaker 3: you know, just all happens to beyond this project.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe he was going to put in a
Speaker 2: Janitor and then searched everything for when when was there
Speaker 2: a Janitor and Spider Man or whatever?
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fascinating that.
Speaker 1: I remember being pissed off sort of kind of at
Speaker 1: the last Spider Man movie where the three who played
Speaker 1: the on camera in the in the film Spider Man.
Speaker 1: I was thinking that you should have been in there,
Speaker 1: just as like a cameo.
Speaker 2: I would have loved that. I mean, they come on
Speaker 2: in across the Spider to be Spider Man and that
Speaker 2: as spectacular and honestly, I think the fans are what
Speaker 2: brought me into that show or into that movie. Because
Speaker 2: that movie came out in June of last year. They
Speaker 2: didn't call me into record until March, like I wasn't
Speaker 2: even a part of it. And I remember two weeks
Speaker 2: before they called me, they released this poster and it
Speaker 2: was basically an upside down miles in front of like
Speaker 2: a sea of Spider Man, spider and spectacular Spider Man
Speaker 2: was like down at the in the front, but like
Speaker 2: in you know, off off to the right and the
Speaker 2: Internet went crazy. The Internet went crazy, and Spectacular Spider
Speaker 2: Man was trending number one on all the socials the
Speaker 2: entire day. It was trending higher than Spider Verse, and
Speaker 2: that was what the thing was supposed to be promoting.
Speaker 2: And everybody was taking this confirmation that I was going
Speaker 2: to be in it, and I was like, no, I mean,
Speaker 2: they haven't even called me, and they're like, oh, he's
Speaker 2: just he's pulling in Andrew Garfield. He totally like, no,
Speaker 2: I really have no idea what you're talking about, and
Speaker 2: they're like you And it wasn't until like two weeks
Speaker 2: later that they called my agent and offered me a role.
Speaker 2: And I really feel like they saw that social media potential,
Speaker 2: like you know.
Speaker 1: We got to tap into that. Yeah, oh that's that's wonderful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about Spectacular Alive.
Speaker 3: Yeah. We keep saying that jokingly about this podcast. We'll
Speaker 3: have guests on and then all of a sudden they're
Speaker 3: in like a new commercial or something. Yeah, what what
Speaker 3: did you call it, Jim? Yeah, the not the tuned
Speaker 3: in crease, tuned increase. I love it, get it. It's
Speaker 3: a little play on words. Yes, yeah, fingers cross for
Speaker 3: that tuned increase.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. You never know, man.
Speaker 3: That must be so cool though, like being such a
Speaker 3: fan of a character and then getting the opportunity, like
Speaker 3: when that first came up, like what was your feeling?
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, But when by the time Spectacular Spider Man
Speaker 2: came out, I was ready. I was ready because I
Speaker 2: had already kind of played Spider Man in a couple
Speaker 2: of video games, well actually a video game. It was
Speaker 2: the two thousand and two tie in for the first
Speaker 2: Spider Man Toby Macguireasa two yeah two one, and I
Speaker 2: originally played Spider Man in that, but then after I
Speaker 2: had finished recording everything, they ended up getting Toby to
Speaker 2: be able to do it. So I guess they didn't
Speaker 2: want to waste all the audio they had done with me,
Speaker 2: so they had me come in and record a couple
Speaker 2: of extra little parts so that they could make a
Speaker 2: hidden mode of play where if you beat the game,
Speaker 2: then you get to play through the game again, as
Speaker 2: like Harry in the Goblin Suit that it was really
Speaker 2: Spider Man, like all the stuff for Spider Man. Like
Speaker 2: I said, they had me come in and record a
Speaker 2: couple of extra little things. So it's you know, oh,
Speaker 2: this is Harry, but it was Spider Man. And I
Speaker 2: wasn't like super crestfallen that they had like replaced me,
Speaker 2: because I'm like, it was a Toby movie and you
Speaker 2: can't do video games. Weren't then what they are now exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And so I was just like you know whatever, you know,
Speaker 2: I was. I was thankful that they actually kept me
Speaker 2: in the game somehow, So thank you, thanks being Knox.
Speaker 2: That was that was, you know, solid. But then when
Speaker 2: it came to to do the Spider Man two game,
Speaker 2: they just brought me in as Harry. Like by that
Speaker 2: point I was the de facto Harry. So then there
Speaker 2: was like a game called spiders Transition.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, there was a game called Spider Man Friend or Foe,
Speaker 2: and I was Harry in that and James Arnold Taylor
Speaker 2: was Spider Man in that one. Who was Harry in
Speaker 2: our show. So we ended up like doing a little
Speaker 2: flip flop. Yeah. But by the time the audition came
Speaker 2: around for Spectacular Spider Man, I was like I'm ready
Speaker 2: for this, Like I'm gonna do this now, like this
Speaker 2: is I went in there just guns blazing and turned
Speaker 2: out it turned out well, yeah it did.
Speaker 3: And how many years did that last?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 2: I mean we got cut short because that was that
Speaker 2: was right around the time that Disney was was going
Speaker 2: to buy Marvel. So we did a season. It was
Speaker 2: like critically acclaimed, it got it was getting great ratings,
Speaker 2: and then we were doing season two and while we
Speaker 2: were recording season two was when Disney bought Marvel and
Speaker 2: they basically never canceled us and never picked us up.
Speaker 2: They just never said anything, but they told, you know, oh,
Speaker 2: you're going to be headlining our new network, Disney XD.
Speaker 2: But then when they put us on Disney XD, the
Speaker 2: they showed the episodes out of order. They kept changing
Speaker 2: the times that it was going to air. They never
Speaker 2: really Didney promotion.
Speaker 1: That was a chunky period, right, Yeah, when they were
Speaker 1: that launch was happening, there were things that were they
Speaker 1: were kind of truncating shows like, oh, here's three.
Speaker 2: Of them, what are we going to do? Yeah, I
Speaker 2: remember that was it was. It made it they they
Speaker 2: made it hard to get an audience. And also we
Speaker 2: went from being on network TV Kids w B to
Speaker 2: a show that to a network that really at the
Speaker 2: time was only on like Dish Network. If you didn't
Speaker 2: have Dish Network, you didn't have Disney obscure, so very obscure,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, I mean it the way it all
Speaker 2: worked out, because people are always asking me, you know,
Speaker 2: could it ever come back? And the thing is is
Speaker 2: that Disney now owns the rights to the character of
Speaker 2: Spider Man for TV, but Sony still owns the rights
Speaker 2: to the show The Spectacular Spider Man. So if Disney
Speaker 2: wanted to continue making it, they would have to basically
Speaker 2: pace Sony life the show so they could keep making.
Speaker 4: They're crazy, they do that. They can't wait to spend money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like, we can just make our own show.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's got to be. They never released it
Speaker 3: on Disney Plus either, right, or they briefly did.
Speaker 2: Briefly they did right when, right when Across the Spider
Speaker 2: Verse was going to come out.
Speaker 3: It makes sense they had it on there.
Speaker 2: And I think that the reason they even put it
Speaker 2: on there is that Netflix put it on there, so
Speaker 2: any put it on Netflix, and this show that had
Speaker 2: been absent from media for all these years was like
Speaker 2: trending number one on Netflix. Yeah, well, like it did
Speaker 2: amazing on Netflix. It's not a whole new generation of
Speaker 2: kids into the Spactacular Spider Man. And then when that happened,
Speaker 2: Disney XD put it on Disney XD still had the
Speaker 2: season finale and another thing out of order. They still
Speaker 2: never fixed it, and so they had it on there
Speaker 2: out of order, and and then once the movie was
Speaker 2: out of theaters, it disappeared again.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it's been. It's been Parker luck one
Speaker 2: one d yes one thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know I remember because of my age group,
Speaker 1: I can remember all of the Fantastic Four, the Avengers,
Speaker 1: Captain America, Spider Man. I had the first Spie. The
Speaker 1: first Spider Man comic book wasn't a Spider Man comic book.
Speaker 1: It was amazing tales.
Speaker 2: Amazing fantasy.
Speaker 1: And he's and I can remember, I can see it
Speaker 1: right now, he's swinging across the cover, classic Spidery pose
Speaker 1: and and it just it gives me goosebumps. And I
Speaker 1: always every time I tell the story, I just it
Speaker 1: just kind of ruins my day. But I remember, I
Speaker 1: was probably in my thirties and I went back home.
Speaker 1: I was born in Austown, Ohio, and I went up
Speaker 1: into the attic and I go, hey, mom, you know
Speaker 1: I had that first Fantastic Four, first Spider Man, first Avenger,
Speaker 1: the Captain America. There was and I just went down
Speaker 1: the line Iron Man back when he looked like a
Speaker 1: tin can.
Speaker 2: And I can't.
Speaker 5: I can't find them anywhere. And she goes, oh, don't worry, hon,
Speaker 5: I gave it away. I took them down to the
Speaker 5: church and and we I think they gave them away.
Speaker 5: They gave them to kids and the orphanage or something.
Speaker 5: And I'm thinking, well, good, well, you know those kids
Speaker 5: in the orphanage are going to go buy their mother's
Speaker 5: house because of what you gave away.
Speaker 2: And it was coming and it's still yeah, and she goes, oh,
Speaker 2: don't worry, don't worry. Why would I worry. You threw
Speaker 2: away a fortune, Oh man, I mean I found an
Speaker 2: amazing fantasy named.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had an and they were pristine. I didn't abuse,
Speaker 1: like somebody roll them up and stick them in their
Speaker 1: back pocket, you know, or whatever. No, I kept it.
Speaker 1: They were pristine. They were they were in ace condition.
Speaker 1: I have to I need a moment now.
Speaker 2: I'm back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's it's just a it's an actually slightly
Speaker 1: painful memory, slightly Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think i'd ever recover from something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the fans are watching, they're going on man,
Speaker 1: that's definitely.
Speaker 2: I think anybody watching. When you started this story about hey,
Speaker 2: you just going back home, as soon as you said
Speaker 2: going back home, like she threw them away, went rid
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 4: Looking for the box, you know, the one that wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one, that one I was looking for, that one,
Speaker 1: that one that's painful.
Speaker 2: Moment of silence is brutal. Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm back
Speaker 2: half in the chat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to you stream, right, you stream?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I haven't for like a year, Okay,
Speaker 2: and I need to get back into it and maybe yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's the what I want to play. I want
Speaker 2: to play. I'm bad right now because I just started,
Speaker 2: but I want to play Iron Man, and I want
Speaker 2: to troll people in chat because like he's got this move,
Speaker 2: the maximum pulse, where like apparently it gives people PTSD
Speaker 2: hearing it, because if you hear it and they get
Speaker 2: off that move, you're the whole team is dead. He
Speaker 2: just goes maximum pulse. And so I just want to
Speaker 2: go into chat and just start randomly like saying maximum
Speaker 2: like making people freak out thinking it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: It's easy to counter now, like there's some of the
Speaker 2: classes that can counter his ultimate move. But still but
Speaker 2: if I in chat, they might blow their counter and
Speaker 2: then I can actually land.
Speaker 3: All Yeah, I thought you did a great job with
Speaker 3: that voice as Iron Man in the game. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a great game. We had Colleen O'shawnese and yeah, I
Speaker 3: had a bunch of voice actors from that show, but
Speaker 3: I mean from that game. But since it's you know,
Speaker 3: we got to have him back on to talk about it.
Speaker 2: They got a packed cast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they really do, they really do. They went all
Speaker 3: out and Uri was playing Spider Man in that.
Speaker 2: One, correct, Yeah, very spider Man in that Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets a lot of stabs at him, doesn't
Speaker 3: he probably?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think everybody's having to go at Spider
Speaker 2: Man all the time. Yeah, all the time.
Speaker 1: And you were pretty active in the Marvel universe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they you're thankful to to have been. You're all over. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been Steve Rogers and what And that one was
Speaker 2: scary because America actually Chris Evans voice match and it
Speaker 2: was supposed to be like MCU canon. Oh I so
Speaker 2: that one was probably the scariest one I've had to do,
Speaker 2: because like, he was one of only three people from
Speaker 2: the MCU that didn't come back to reprise their roles show.
Speaker 2: So I was like, how are what are they going
Speaker 2: to think about, like not being Chris?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm thinking about I'm trying to listen for
Speaker 1: it in my head and it's not. And he's He's
Speaker 1: one of those voices that I hate having to try
Speaker 1: to voice Metro because there's nothing you can really hang
Speaker 1: your head on. It's not like he sounds like Jack Nicholson, right,
Speaker 1: you know, he sounds like some guy and you're okay,
Speaker 1: well that's good.
Speaker 2: Those are the hardest ones to match, the hardest one,
Speaker 2: the hardest ones to match. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Do it Now?
Speaker 3: Do you get asked to voicematch a lot for certain people.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, back in the day, I used to
Speaker 2: voice match uh Jay barukel for for hiccup for the Dragon.
Speaker 2: I used to do that one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so that's how you pronounce it.
Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that. I think, I hope, yes,
Speaker 2: kind of something, Oh yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1: It's in it, like he chooses words and it's very
Speaker 1: up in the back of the nasal area.
Speaker 2: It's funny, like a lot a lot of stuff's in there.
Speaker 2: I mean, even even the even the Steve Rogers stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean with with him, you know, you kind of
Speaker 2: got to lower his voice a little bit, but then
Speaker 2: he's still kind of putting it out through that that
Speaker 2: that mask and uh and he does a little bit
Speaker 2: of like a Brooklyn thing, especially where in the part
Speaker 2: that I was that I was doing, which was before
Speaker 2: he gets the serum.
Speaker 1: Okay, when he was from the Bronx or somewhere right
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Brooklyn, Brooklyn Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah, I knew it was
Speaker 1: a B word.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Marvel Comics, is it for me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and but for you, you have the distinction of
Speaker 1: going from the Marvel universe to the d C universe
Speaker 1: and back again. And yeah, I mean because you're like
Speaker 1: all over the lantern. You're very Yeah, why it's funny
Speaker 1: you mentioned green lantern.
Speaker 2: Okay, you ready, I'm ready, and brightest and brightest day
Speaker 2: in blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight. Let
Speaker 2: those who worship evils might beware my power green lantern light.
Speaker 2: We did it. Okay, amazing, Good night, everybody. That made
Speaker 2: my day. That was another show that got cut short
Speaker 2: way too, and that one. That one was because of
Speaker 2: the movie. The movie did so poorly that they never
Speaker 2: even made a toy line for our show because they
Speaker 2: couldn't get the movie toys to even move in the stores.
Speaker 2: So when the toy line, the toy companies pitched the
Speaker 2: toy line, the stores are like, we have enough green
Speaker 2: lantern toys. They're like, no, this is for the show,
Speaker 2: not the movie. They're like, no, we're good on green lanterns.
Speaker 2: So it never even made a toy line.
Speaker 3: So without that, we were kind of songs that was
Speaker 3: the Ryan Reynolds one that.
Speaker 2: Was a Ryan Reynolds, but our show had nothing to
Speaker 2: do with that, Like it was a it was a
Speaker 2: it was a Bruce tim show. And it really look
Speaker 2: in fairness, like, I feel like the movie really had
Speaker 2: a lot on its plate in terms of what it
Speaker 2: had to do. The movie had to basically, let's preface
Speaker 2: this by saying that Green Lantern, for most of its
Speaker 2: time has been something that like comic book fans will
Speaker 2: really know a lot about, like the Normies. It's not
Speaker 2: at all Spider Spider Man, It's not like that. So
Speaker 2: they had to basic introduced people to the entire world,
Speaker 2: make them care about these characters, and then give the conflict.
Speaker 2: And they just try to do too much in that movie.
Speaker 2: I mean they had Hector Hammond and Parallax and parallaxes
Speaker 2: like endgame that's like that's like way like way down
Speaker 2: the lap. Yeah yeah, and as the first thing, and
Speaker 2: he's beaten super quick, and it's just like you don't
Speaker 2: really get a chance to really get the stakes, and
Speaker 2: and they didn't really do enough to introduce people into
Speaker 2: the fact, oh, these are like like space cops and
Speaker 2: this is like that type of stuff. So there was
Speaker 2: so much more that they had to do. But how
Speaker 2: do you do that in.
Speaker 4: Like two hours?
Speaker 2: Whereas our show we had you know, twenty six episodes
Speaker 2: to do it, So we had a lot more of
Speaker 2: a time to roll roll this out and explore all
Speaker 2: the different spectrum colors.
Speaker 1: I was wondering, did they did they get into the
Speaker 1: green lantern universe of the core?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the different They're like, oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: you met a lot of other lanterns. You met Guy Gardner,
Speaker 2: who was expertly portrayed by d Drich Bader. Ye kill
Speaker 2: a wog was Kevin Michael wins O. But you also
Speaker 2: saw the red lanterns. You saw, you saw the orange
Speaker 2: lanterns or well Larflee's, and then you saw you saw
Speaker 2: no yellow lanterns.
Speaker 1: Though I can't because they because yellow is his nemesis.
Speaker 2: I want to say there was. They did have an
Speaker 2: opisode about a yellow ring. It's been a while since
Speaker 2: I've since I've gotten Yes, I think the only one
Speaker 2: we never we we had blue lanterns. I think the
Speaker 2: only one that we ever didn't see what No, there
Speaker 2: was a yellow lantern episode. The only one that we
Speaker 2: never saw was black and that one was touched upon
Speaker 2: in the very last episode. You see him kind of
Speaker 2: like looking at these books and you see the Book
Speaker 2: of Black right there, So it's kind of like previewed
Speaker 2: that that was going to be in there, gone on
Speaker 2: more season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they couldn't really do a book of white
Speaker 1: because that would just be a flashlight. Sure, it's not
Speaker 1: the same. It's just not the same. Oh man, that's
Speaker 1: good stuff. Well you good playing superheroes. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt about that. But the Human
Speaker 1: Torch too.
Speaker 2: Really, that was a long time ago. That was like
Speaker 2: that in what ultimate a line? I want to Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was like when video when video games were just
Speaker 2: starting to have voice acting, and uh that that went
Speaker 2: beyond like just grunts and stuff. Where where they beyond grunts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the name of your autobiography, right, beyond grunts,
Speaker 1: Beyond grunts.
Speaker 4: That's actually that's not bad.
Speaker 2: That's still that's not bad.
Speaker 4: Josh, beyond grunts, beyond guns.
Speaker 3: But you guys, you share another commonality. You're both in
Speaker 3: bands back.
Speaker 1: In the day.
Speaker 2: It's true, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 3: What did you play?
Speaker 2: I was in a boy band, so I played myself. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did dancing and everything, did dancing and everything.
Speaker 2: And I'm not I wasn't like a dancer growing up.
Speaker 2: I was always real self conscious. And the thing about
Speaker 2: boy bands is that it's less about how good of
Speaker 2: a singer you are art most of the time and
Speaker 2: more about like just the performance. So if you're like
Speaker 2: a great dancer and like a mediocre singer, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have a better chance over somebody who can't dance for
Speaker 2: shit and is a great singer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I actually auditioned for this group twice. The first
Speaker 2: time I didn't get in because like I wasn't that
Speaker 2: great of a singer and I couldn't dance to save
Speaker 2: my life. So after that, I ended up being in
Speaker 2: a gospel group for like three or four years. But
Speaker 2: I was like the only I was like one of
Speaker 2: the only like sambourine here, and I mean I'm Latino,
Speaker 2: but I I read Caucasian. But yeah, like I I
Speaker 2: basically learned how to sing in that group. And that's
Speaker 2: where I really learned my love for like R and
Speaker 2: B music and soul music and and that's, uh, that's great,
Speaker 2: and that's that's what I ended up like gravitating towards.
Speaker 2: That's still what I love to this day. But I
Speaker 2: remember after that group kind of fell apart, I ended
Speaker 2: up auditioning for this group again, and one of the
Speaker 2: lead singers I guess had left and got in and
Speaker 2: and I ended up becoming one of the lead singers,
Speaker 2: much to the chagrin of the now sole lead singer,
Speaker 2: who now had to give up half his parts to me.
Speaker 2: He never really liked me. It was called No Authority,
Speaker 2: and I always hated the name because I know, like
Speaker 2: it was it was thought up by one of the
Speaker 2: guys in the group, and he was super you know,
Speaker 2: he had this this aura of being like, you know,
Speaker 2: really rebellious, and he thought it was like nobody has
Speaker 2: authority over us and all that, Like this really just
Speaker 2: sounds like we have no power, so it sounds like
Speaker 2: we have no authority.
Speaker 1: Either that or a guy named Noah who's from Italy,
Speaker 1: Noah oh Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I always hated the name, but I had
Speaker 2: a great time in that group. I will say, but
Speaker 2: it heads with with the other lead singer a lot.
Speaker 2: But I mean we were we were teenagers. We were
Speaker 2: we were all trying to figure out who we were
Speaker 2: and establish ourselves.
Speaker 1: And it was a terrible way to meet girls.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, just terrible. Yeah, we're worried about you. It was,
Speaker 2: I mean, it was great. I got to see the world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to make some some great music. We worked with this
Speaker 2: producer named Rodney Jerkins, who ended up going on to
Speaker 2: produce pretty much all of Destiny's Child's hits, Brandy Monica
Speaker 2: all of their hits, produced stuff for Michael Jackson. He's
Speaker 2: still making music, I mean, and he was nineteen when
Speaker 2: he produced our album. So I mean we made we
Speaker 2: and our record, Like I've gone back and listened to
Speaker 2: it and it's still a great record.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like is there anywhere online we can find it?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, actually, and there's actually two because I left
Speaker 2: the group after the first after the first album because
Speaker 2: the manager was was a crook and uh that really yeah,
Speaker 2: like I just couldn't work for him anymore.
Speaker 4: I've never heard of that in the record industry.
Speaker 2: There are you sucked, man, And the thing, the thing
Speaker 2: that really sucked is that like he he basically kind
Speaker 2: of like smeared me to the rest of the bandmates,
Speaker 2: and I left because my problems were with him, and
Speaker 2: he went and told them that I was like high
Speaker 2: on my own farts and that thought I was better
Speaker 2: than all of them and that I was going to
Speaker 2: go solo, and and like he basically turned like like
Speaker 2: the one that that was the other lead singer. We
Speaker 2: always had kind of we always didn't mess with yea,
Speaker 2: so it was very easy to kind of turn him
Speaker 2: against me. But there was another one in the group
Speaker 2: that was like my buddy in the group, and he
Speaker 2: ended up doing a complete one eighty because he bought
Speaker 2: the kool aid who drank the kool aid that my
Speaker 2: manager was selling and and ended up like talking all
Speaker 2: kinds of shit about me to fans and like all
Speaker 2: this stuff, and that one kind of that one kind
Speaker 2: of hurt because I was like, you were you were
Speaker 2: like my boy in the group. And then I'm still
Speaker 2: friends with another one in the group, my buddy Danny
Speaker 2: so and and the funny, the funny thing is is
Speaker 2: that the guy that replaced me in the group, I
Speaker 2: like the guy.
Speaker 4: We're friends. That's cool, dude, Yeah, well it's funny.
Speaker 1: The guy you didn't get along with is a hell
Speaker 1: of a la here at So it's not.
Speaker 2: I can't even it's not far and I can't even,
Speaker 2: I can't even go there.
Speaker 1: But he can park the hell out of a car,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. So that's what you what you
Speaker 1: get when you messed with Josh, you got that folks.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it was it was still it
Speaker 2: was still a lot of fun. So, yeah, you're asking
Speaker 2: if he could find it online. There's two albums. The
Speaker 2: one that I'm in has like a red cover. It's
Speaker 2: called Keep On and uh yeah there's and you'll see
Speaker 2: me like pouting because apparently I got the reputation as
Speaker 2: the bad boy in the group, even though I was
Speaker 2: the furthest thing from a bad boy, because I was
Speaker 2: a freaking boy scout, like literally, but I was always
Speaker 2: real self conscious about my smile as a teenager, and
Speaker 2: I never wanted a smile in pictures. So because of that,
Speaker 2: I was always like serious in pictures, and you're the
Speaker 2: brooding bad boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's funny, that's funny.
Speaker 2: That's all the most innocent bad boy ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, so you always wanted to be in show
Speaker 3: business or entertainment, you.
Speaker 2: Know what's funny? No, No, Like, because I grew up
Speaker 2: I have three sisters. My older sister was the one
Speaker 2: that was like first put into it. My parents got
Speaker 2: me into it, and it was just kind of by
Speaker 2: the time she was into it, they had spent so
Speaker 2: much time with her. I mean I was probably four, Yeah,
Speaker 2: she was like maybe even maybe even younger. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: but it was just kind of like that's what we
Speaker 2: did because she had dance classes, she had singing classes.
Speaker 2: At that time, I wanted to do other things, like
Speaker 2: we would every time we would drive to her dance classes,
Speaker 2: we had to drive over this hill and there's like
Speaker 2: a big beautiful baseball diamond off off like the mountain
Speaker 2: road that we had to go on, and it was
Speaker 2: like field of dreams, Oh wow, and we passed by
Speaker 2: it every time. I'm like, I want to play baseball.
Speaker 2: I want to play but there was no time for
Speaker 2: that because we had dance classes and all. So it's
Speaker 2: like if I wanted to do anything, I kind of.
Speaker 3: Had to do this. It's like the opposite of step up, right,
Speaker 3: and so this is like this.
Speaker 2: What was expected of me. You know you you're going
Speaker 2: to do this. And so at the time, like I
Speaker 2: didn't really want to do it, but over the time,
Speaker 2: like I grew to love it, and then there there
Speaker 2: there came a point in my life where I was
Speaker 2: like I can't really imagine myself doing anything else, and
Speaker 2: and by that time I had grown to really really
Speaker 2: love it. And there's still other things that I enjoy
Speaker 2: like I also, I loved space. I wanted to be
Speaker 2: an astronaut, like I wanted to do all kinds of
Speaker 2: other stuff. I'd still love to go to space.
Speaker 3: They're not like they're selling flights these that that's in space.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's a ride, that's like, that's like going.
Speaker 3: I got shredded on ready because I was like, why
Speaker 3: are people hating on Katy Perry so much? Like she
Speaker 3: got to go to outer space? And I get all
Speaker 3: these comments. Yeah, they're dropping terminology on that. That's all
Speaker 3: I know. That's a person in sci fi. I don't
Speaker 3: know it's a rich person. I don't know the classifications
Speaker 3: of space.
Speaker 4: I wanted to fall from there.
Speaker 3: I mean, I said, that's like three times higher than
Speaker 3: a commercial flight, Like come on.
Speaker 2: But the thing that amazing is that they're like calling
Speaker 2: themselves astronauts, and I'm like, dude, you are so spitting
Speaker 2: in the face of every actual astronaut that is actually.
Speaker 3: Actual astronauts even care though they're.
Speaker 2: Like probably not, but I mean all care for them
Speaker 2: because that's a lot of schooling whatever inner space or whatever,
Speaker 2: that astronomy in the same category as astro Like I
Speaker 2: cringed so hard I almost disappeared into my own It was.
Speaker 2: It was crazy, man, Like I was like, come on, dude,
Speaker 2: this is and I think that so many people were
Speaker 2: like united in that sentiment where they really.
Speaker 3: Didn't see Yeah, and when.
Speaker 2: They started calling themselves astronauts and yeah, just well have
Speaker 2: you ever been to space? I was like, get out
Speaker 2: of here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't go back to not space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go back to Shatnerville.
Speaker 2: He was up there, wasn't he.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was on the the first one. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: was on the first one with Bezos. And he's out there.
Speaker 3: This is off topic, but whatever, we're on this. Ye,
Speaker 3: he's out there and they just land back, you know,
Speaker 3: and they're all in their suits and he's trying to
Speaker 3: give this profound statement about what space was like. And
Speaker 3: the Bezos comes in with a bottle of champagne, spraying
Speaker 3: it with all these hoo cheeser happened. Oh what a moment,
Speaker 3: So profound.
Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing. It could be risky.
Speaker 3: Hey man, though the average person is going to be
Speaker 3: terrified to go up that high in an aircraft. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you that. That's I've seen people praying in minor turbulence.
Speaker 4: I'd absolutely me too.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't parachute back, no, no, no, there might be
Speaker 1: a little.
Speaker 2: Though, like they didn't even really go high enough to
Speaker 2: really escape.
Speaker 3: They were like waitless though, they didn't really I.
Speaker 2: Mean you could do that with a flight you see one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how they filmed the comet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they fly the botic arc right, yeah, still in
Speaker 2: the atmosphere. But I mean that capsule didn't even look
Speaker 2: like it had any kind of burn marks from re entry.
Speaker 3: So that's what I was curious about. The atmosphere, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think, because yeah, that the capsule looked like it.
Speaker 1: How come you didn't catch fire? That's are just supposed
Speaker 1: to catch fire.
Speaker 2: I mean even caps those those are all they're all charge.
Speaker 2: That's right. It is a crazy yeah.
Speaker 3: Crazy time we're living in where people are just going
Speaker 3: to and from outer space. Elon Musk pretty much has
Speaker 3: an intergalactic trucking company, like just sending these rockets up
Speaker 3: and downs. Pretty wild, pretty wild.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, back onto the topic of you.
Speaker 2: Me more me? That's right.
Speaker 3: So you were raised English as in your first language.
Speaker 2: No, actually, my mother's Peruvians from Lima and so we
Speaker 2: my dad sometimes would work. He would work two sometimes
Speaker 2: three jobs. My mom also worked, so a lot of
Speaker 2: times we were with our grandparents. Are I would this
Speaker 2: and so. Yeah, So Spanish was pretty much the first
Speaker 2: thing I spoke with them. Interesting, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I'm guessing just being you know, around like
Speaker 3: your classmates and teachers and everything, there's no accent because
Speaker 3: that's how you spoke normally, you know, just in person.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing yeah, yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3: Not normally, but like you spoke English around, yeah, well,
Speaker 3: because I mean I was.
Speaker 2: I always grew up with both My dad's an English teacher. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I mean their pronunciation was drilled into my
Speaker 2: head from a very very young age, even speaking English
Speaker 2: like the first actually it's not the first job I
Speaker 2: ever got, but like I remember the Back to the
Speaker 2: Future animated series. That was probably like nine when I
Speaker 2: got that. And the reason that I got that was
Speaker 2: because as a nine year old I was able to
Speaker 2: just rattle off and I remember this to this day.
Speaker 2: Was I'm computing the logarithmic equivalents of the atomic weights
Speaker 2: of certain isotopes found in the Lanthanide series of rare
Speaker 2: Earth elements.
Speaker 3: I bet you were fine.
Speaker 2: Parts.
Speaker 4: I was just I was just going to say that.
Speaker 2: And I actually knew what that meant because I was
Speaker 2: a big periodic table person when I was nine. Wow,
Speaker 2: Like I loved it. I was like, this is so cool,
Speaker 2: this is all everything that makes.
Speaker 3: Everything that is so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was a huge, huge nerd. Oh I'm actually nerd.
Speaker 3: But it's funny how it's like nerdy when you're a kid,
Speaker 3: but then it's cool when you're an adult. That's funny
Speaker 3: how that stuff works absolutely like bland in a band,
Speaker 3: you know, playing in a band. Yeah, I saw it
Speaker 3: at least when I was young. I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to play an instrument, and it's like I
Speaker 3: wish I played.
Speaker 2: For an instrument. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's not a tuba
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet there's somebody on social media making a
Speaker 3: living doing some tuba thing, you know.
Speaker 2: I actually went to the Roast Parade for the first
Speaker 2: time this year, and like usually especially hate parades, and
Speaker 2: but my if your sister, well no, I wasn't in it.
Speaker 2: I want to say, but my sister lives literally like
Speaker 2: maybe six hundred feet from the parade route. Ohez, So
Speaker 2: like if you have to go to the bathroom. You
Speaker 2: just go to her house. Oh that works. When you've
Speaker 2: got a park, you park right in her in her garage.
Speaker 3: So it's great.
Speaker 2: Like all the things that I hate about, like huge
Speaker 2: crowd stuff like no bat no parking. It midigated. So
Speaker 2: there was this There was this high school band from
Speaker 2: Japan and I want to say it was an all
Speaker 2: girls school. Oh wow. They were incredible and they they
Speaker 2: made playing a tuba while marching look awesome because they
Speaker 2: were like they were like dancing with the two Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: We were like towards the end of the route and
Speaker 2: I'm like, they've been doing this for miles and they
Speaker 2: still had the same kind of energy. I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how how they did this. They were
Speaker 2: they were incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're a.
Speaker 2: Lot lighter nowadays too. They would have had to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah they had because I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2: I've played saxophone and you tube was easily twice that size,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it can even imagine marching with that. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't even the wrap around the suzophone kind
Speaker 2: of it was like like a lick a legit tub.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you had you were lift weightlifting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where you're you're holding that bole.
Speaker 1: It was wrapped around you. You were not you know,
Speaker 1: it was holding you too. Yeah, yeah I remember those.
Speaker 2: Can you hug?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I bet that makes it harder to play. You've
Speaker 3: got to control your breath way more. And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you never even thought about that.
Speaker 2: You're marching, you're dancing, you're doing it in line right,
Speaker 2: or you're doing it in sync with everybody else. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's crazy.
Speaker 3: That's just crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I that gave me a whole new respect for
Speaker 2: marching bands, because I mean I've seen marching bands, but
Speaker 2: like I was like right in front of them. It's
Speaker 2: one thing to see it on TV, and its one
Speaker 2: thing to like actually hear the sound of the band
Speaker 2: right there, like feet from it.
Speaker 3: With a lot of things in life, with a lot
Speaker 3: of things, it's a lot different to experience something in
Speaker 3: sports like first hand.
Speaker 2: I can't watch sports on TV. Yeah, I can't get
Speaker 2: into it. And I think one of the main reasons
Speaker 2: is is, like I would love it if in order
Speaker 2: to play for a team you had to be from
Speaker 2: that city, because then you would actually see like city
Speaker 2: versus city. It was super cool New York Miami, right
Speaker 2: now it's just mercenaries for rich people. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is this rich guys team. This is this rich
Speaker 2: guys team.
Speaker 1: Well, the Brooklyn Dodgers, that's what they were from Brooklyn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were a bunch of guys from Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: I feel like if the stakes are higher, when it's
Speaker 2: like this hood versus this hood, yeah that would be
Speaker 2: really cool. But that being said, when you actually go
Speaker 2: to see a game, it's it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Like they had this father's son event for my well,
Speaker 2: both my kids go to the same school, but for
Speaker 2: for they had a father son event and it was
Speaker 2: at Angel Stadium, and so I took my son to
Speaker 2: see a baseball game. And neither of us really watched
Speaker 2: sports or into sports, but it was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially baseball, I thinks.
Speaker 2: And we sat and we watched, and you know, he
Speaker 2: didn't this is the first time with anything with baseball.
Speaker 2: So I was explaining the game to him and saying, okay,
Speaker 2: this is this is, uh, you know what happens when
Speaker 2: they get three outs and this is what makes it
Speaker 2: out and this is when they're pitching. And then when
Speaker 2: there's this one there's this one part where like the
Speaker 2: ball actually like the pitcher actually hit the battle he
Speaker 2: actually hit the batter, and then the batter actually returned
Speaker 2: one of the hits and hit the pitcher in the
Speaker 2: same place. It was crazy, you know. It was like
Speaker 2: it's like instant karma right there. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: this is this is why you come to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's funny that.
Speaker 2: That's kind of fun stuff. So that is good.
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Speaker 3: Do you guys remember the first time you worked on
Speaker 3: a project together? You guys have worked on quite a
Speaker 3: few projects, or at least been in the same I
Speaker 3: think the.
Speaker 2: Thing that we worked on the most together was Splatterhouse.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because we were both the leads in that game.
Speaker 2: He was the mask and I was the vessel for
Speaker 2: the mask, the guy that puts on the mask. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I talk you know.
Speaker 1: I've signed a ton of those at conditions and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's still a cult favorite game unbelievable, worked on stuff
Speaker 1: before the Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I've kind of
Speaker 1: guested on your shows. I've been the Hammerhead or a
Speaker 1: couple of Spidy villains over the year. I think I've
Speaker 1: got some written downer so more.
Speaker 2: But I know we did.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, rush your Hogan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, crush your hogan. Oh yeah, you were the the
Speaker 2: that's exactly right in Yeah, in my favorite episode of Spectacular.
Speaker 1: Spider Man and mine too because the black and white
Speaker 1: I was in it.
Speaker 4: It was Yes, that's what did it for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, crush your Hogan, all those, all those sort
Speaker 1: of like b villains of Yeah, Marvel Universe.
Speaker 3: Marvel Superhero Squad, uh, the Finnity Gauntlet, You're Spider Man
Speaker 3: and Jim was Thanos super super Yes, I feel like
Speaker 3: that's supposed to say super Skull.
Speaker 2: Scroll scroll scroll excuse me, scrolls scrulls.
Speaker 3: Leave me alone in the comments.
Speaker 2: They're cooking you already, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah man, well, yeah, so did you guys record these
Speaker 3: together in the booth or it was kind of like
Speaker 3: I wanted a seven deal.
Speaker 2: On Spider House not every time, but there were a
Speaker 2: couple of sessions where we were together in the Boy,
Speaker 2: and then there were some times where we weren't together
Speaker 2: but Jim had already recorded and so they would play
Speaker 2: me his lead in I would get to actually react.
Speaker 3: That helps. You must have been pretty young. You look
Speaker 3: like a young guy to me.
Speaker 2: No, I'm forty six.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's pretty young.
Speaker 2: Well that's still pretty long, long of.
Speaker 3: A career that you've had.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean i've been I've been acting. I've been
Speaker 2: in the Union since I was four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've been.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, I've been. I've been in the Union
Speaker 2: for more than Yeah. It feels weird to say that.
Speaker 3: Man's it's especially in your forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1: We've been in the Union the same time, but I'm
Speaker 1: like forty years older than you.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: So this is knucking futs.
Speaker 2: It's been crazy. And the thing is is, like I
Speaker 2: remember always when when we were still at DPMDPN, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was like I would look I would look to
Speaker 2: guys like you as like the living legends. It's like
Speaker 2: like you guys were like the old guard. Oh there
Speaker 2: you go. And and so I remember going in to
Speaker 2: read at the office with you guys and hearing you
Speaker 2: guys tell stories and stuff and oh yeah, and I
Speaker 2: was like the young guy. Sure, I was like the
Speaker 2: young guy. And it's just funny just running into all
Speaker 2: my old guard friends who I've still stayed friends with,
Speaker 2: like you, Dan, Jiloviazan and all that, and they still
Speaker 2: looked at me like the young guy when there's I'm
Speaker 2: probably the age that you guys were, well I met
Speaker 2: you guys probably, yeah, and it's just yeah, that's about right.
Speaker 2: But I don't feel like that time has passed. I
Speaker 2: don't feel like I'm that much older.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I am. It's just weird, I know what
Speaker 3: you mean. Pop Stars always do that to me. It's
Speaker 3: like when you see this new pop star and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: they're like twenty one years old, like you just you
Speaker 3: know that meme. There's a saving private Ryan just getting
Speaker 3: older in real time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, there's weird people them where you feel like
Speaker 2: you're never going to grow old and then like you
Speaker 2: are and yeah, just crazy.
Speaker 1: Well that that's how it went for me. I went
Speaker 1: like being into business. I was very very fortunate. I
Speaker 1: blessed that I got my first job, and then I
Speaker 1: never ever did it, never lagged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I went.
Speaker 1: From working full time in the video store to working
Speaker 1: full time in this thing. So I didn't have a
Speaker 1: transition period. And I remember thinking, you know that, gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm whatever age I was, the late twenties or right
Speaker 1: at thirty, thinking I'm the youngest guy out here, and
Speaker 1: it's this and it's that. And I went from like
Speaker 1: being the youngest guy to being the veteran. And I
Speaker 1: couldn't even tell you when it happened. It was like
Speaker 1: it was overnight. Well wait are you sure?
Speaker 4: Wait I'm the veteran.
Speaker 2: Damn. Okay, all right, well it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I guess that means I'm still working, so I'll take it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, beats beats dying.
Speaker 2: Sure does, Sure does. So far, it's wild. The passage
Speaker 2: of time is cruel and fascinating and it's uh, it's wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it fascinating, you get I think fascinating is the
Speaker 3: perfect word for you. Yeah, because especially like hearing like
Speaker 3: young kids talk shit on like a video game or something,
Speaker 3: it's like you're gonna be old one.
Speaker 2: Dah you will, like you will?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you better hope you're gonna be old, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I promise you you will.
Speaker 3: I was one of those young shit talkers too, man,
Speaker 3: like I'd be on the video games year old you Die.
Speaker 3: I was a kid like you ones playing sports, you know,
Speaker 3: and you make fun of somebody for being like twenty three,
Speaker 3: it's like you're old. Yeah, here twenty three.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was a kid that was the who.
Speaker 1: You know, the Who, the Beatles of Stones, the Who
Speaker 1: had a song called my Generation People try to put
Speaker 1: us down and one of the lines was, hohope I
Speaker 1: die before I gain old toe game by my generation.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, I don't know about that part
Speaker 1: about dying. Yeah I'm thirty. I think I'll kill myself. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'll wait for thirty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: And now it's like, yeah, let me know.
Speaker 1: When you run into a you know, who wants to
Speaker 1: be one hundred, a guy who's ninety nine, that's.
Speaker 4: Who wants to be absolutely you know. That's the how
Speaker 4: about that?
Speaker 2: I want to say, My kids keep me young because
Speaker 2: like they're constantly reintroducing me to everything that is like
Speaker 2: current and fresh and oh yeah, and I get to see,
Speaker 2: you know what what kids are like these days. But
Speaker 2: then right when I start to get a little bit
Speaker 2: more confident, I was like, I was just kind of
Speaker 2: like my son was sitting on the couch playing video
Speaker 2: games and I just come up and I just start
Speaker 2: like mugging in his face, and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: check this out. And I just started doing the stupid dance,
Speaker 2: just some stupid dance. I literally threw my back out. Oh,
Speaker 2: I threw my back out. And it wasn't even anything
Speaker 2: that was crazy acrobatic or anything like that. It was
Speaker 2: like it was stupid.
Speaker 4: It was like it was just like you were dancing.
Speaker 2: And I was literally just like doing this with like
Speaker 2: like like a weird look on my face, and and
Speaker 2: all of a.
Speaker 4: Sudden, I was like and the weird look.
Speaker 2: And it was bad for like two weeks almost doctor,
Speaker 2: because I was like, did I really do something bad?
Speaker 2: Because it should this be hurting after all the time.
Speaker 4: That's that's the something that would happen to me, Like,
Speaker 4: what what is that?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Forties of Well, you know, I'd rather have a ship
Speaker 1: ton of birthdays than one funeral.
Speaker 4: That's true, because you only get one one of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll put that one off with that party.
Speaker 1: Make it good, yeah, make it a good one. Yeah okay,
Speaker 1: and yeah.
Speaker 2: Taxidermy up in the front, and I'll just be like,
Speaker 2: you know, to.
Speaker 1: One of my old my old goals was because you know,
Speaker 1: every now and I mean, one of our legends dies
Speaker 1: and of course, you know, melt Blank or Paul Freeze
Speaker 1: or whatever you and then there's a rush to replace
Speaker 1: these characters. And one of my goals I can remember
Speaker 1: from from day one was, Okay, when I eventually die,
Speaker 1: you know, like when I'm a hundred, I want eighteen
Speaker 1: people to get a gig because they all go and
Speaker 1: can go out and fill one of my one of
Speaker 1: my roles, you know, yeah.
Speaker 4: All the guys who came and said I could.
Speaker 1: Now you're number one, assuming you weren't older and are
Speaker 1: already dead. So yeah, that's that's my goal. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for. Maybe somebody, maybe someday you'll be Winny
Speaker 1: the Pooh, I would love that.
Speaker 2: I have to learn. I'd be queath it unto you.
Speaker 2: I grew up listening to you. Yeah, oh yeah, that
Speaker 2: was a big Winnie the Poof fan. Yeah, you have
Speaker 2: like to read along books, the ones that came with
Speaker 2: the cassette. Oh yes, yes, well I hope you bought
Speaker 2: tons of them. I did.
Speaker 4: I probably mean I still listen to.
Speaker 2: Those even, like I mean, honestly, that's probably one of
Speaker 2: the reasons I got into voiceover, was just like listening
Speaker 2: to so many of those, and I I they were
Speaker 2: just a comfort to me. Like I listened to those
Speaker 2: even when I was like like a teenager. Sometimes if
Speaker 2: I couldn't get to bed, I'd throw on like a
Speaker 2: Winnie the Poop and just bore you to sleep. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just comforting. Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you share that with your kids as well? Like
Speaker 3: is this something that you've passed?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well they they listened. They they love
Speaker 2: to listen to stuff, my son especially, and I mean
Speaker 2: I would read to them a lot when they were
Speaker 2: and they're both very avid readers. I mean my daughter
Speaker 2: reads it like it's good levels in she's in fifth grade.
Speaker 2: She reads at twelfth grade. My son reads I think
Speaker 2: at like tenth and he's in third. Wow. But again,
Speaker 2: like I started them really really early, so from the
Speaker 2: time they were cognizant, I was reading to them.
Speaker 4: And I would read that my mom gave me. That's
Speaker 4: a gift. It's my mom did that for me.
Speaker 1: I could read it five I showed up in first
Speaker 1: grade and and the nuns liked me temporarily took a
Speaker 1: couple of years later not so much, but right then there.
Speaker 2: Oh he can read. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And then, of course, you know, they had all taught
Speaker 1: my mom Saint Sally. You may have heard of her,
Speaker 1: God Rest nrs. And they expected me to be a
Speaker 1: good kid because she was. And that part didn't work
Speaker 1: out so well.
Speaker 4: But the reading, I was.
Speaker 2: Fine, you're good, yeah good, yeah, no, I mean yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: And they would those are great for teaching kids to read,
Speaker 2: because just the meeter and the rhyme and all that
Speaker 2: and the absolute silliness of what they're talking about makes
Speaker 2: it very memorable. So like they would memorize the story
Speaker 2: that was being read, and I would notice my son
Speaker 2: he would go back and he would start looking over
Speaker 2: the book, having now memorize it because I had read
Speaker 2: to it, read to him so often that now he'd
Speaker 2: be kind of going through and reciting the appropriate words
Speaker 2: for the appropriate page. And then that just makes the connection, Oh,
Speaker 2: these are the words that I'm reading. So pretty much
Speaker 2: through that figured out how to read. And once I
Speaker 2: could see that they could read and sound stuff out,
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, why stick with this? Why not read
Speaker 2: some more advanced stuff. So I always loved rawal doahll,
Speaker 2: So I was like, let's let's read THEFG you know,
Speaker 2: not even thinking about the fact that, hey, this is
Speaker 2: the book about the giants that eat children and crunch
Speaker 2: on their phones like the five. But yeah, I started
Speaker 2: having my daughter read this stuff and that's tasty, kid. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh god. Yeah. So then they they ended up and
Speaker 2: I would read it to them with the voices and
Speaker 2: all that, and then I know what's start having them
Speaker 2: read it back to.
Speaker 1: Me, traumatizing them one book at a time, one book
Speaker 1: at a time. Oh, that's wonderful, that's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are they? Are they showing any inkling of following in debt.
Speaker 2: Some of it? Basically like, I don't ever want to
Speaker 2: push it on them because I feel like when I
Speaker 2: was growing up it was pushed on me. And so
Speaker 2: I've told them like, if this isn't something you want
Speaker 2: to do, you don't have to do it. Oh what,
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's there's a lot less competition right now.
Speaker 2: There you have somebody who can help you. You are
Speaker 2: already repped by one of the best agents in business.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know you can. It'll make your
Speaker 2: life easier if you have savings from the time they did.
Speaker 2: They're both union members because they've both worked enough to
Speaker 2: be part of the union. Oh that's great. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean my daughter during COVID, my daughter actually worked
Speaker 2: quite a bit because at that time, like I already
Speaker 2: had a studio. It happened for ten years already, and
Speaker 2: this was when people were rushing to do home studios
Speaker 2: because that's the only way that they could work. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so she did. She actually did a couple episodes of
Speaker 2: Spidey and his Amazing Friends.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: And and it was cute because she sounds totally different.
Speaker 2: Now now she can pronounce her ours no problem, but
Speaker 2: back then she couldn't pronounce her ours. And I said,
Speaker 2: don't worry about it, because you know, this takes place
Speaker 2: in New York and just you're a little New Yorker,
Speaker 2: so when she's saying it's Spidy's web shooter, it's not
Speaker 2: like you're from from the city. That's great, great, yeah,
Speaker 2: so but yeah, just going back and listening to that,
Speaker 2: that's cute. And I'm very open and honest with them about,
Speaker 2: you know what, the money that they'll make on all that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is what a residual is. I'm like this,
Speaker 2: you're you see, you're getting this and this is something
Speaker 2: you did like three years ago and you're getting a
Speaker 2: little bit of money from that. And yeah, the more
Speaker 2: of this you can do, the more of this adds up.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always want to. It was weird, like my
Speaker 2: parents did all of that, so I kind of went
Speaker 2: into adult life with like a kid's set of social
Speaker 2: and financial skills and had to learn a lot very quickly.
Speaker 2: And I don't ever want them to be like that. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm very open with them about this is what you make,
Speaker 2: this is what the structure is, how much you pay
Speaker 2: your agent, this is how all that works when taxes
Speaker 2: come around. I'm very very open with them about, Okay,
Speaker 2: now this is what you have to do, this is
Speaker 2: how much you have to pay, this is what it's
Speaker 2: all that. So, but but some of it's going to stick.
Speaker 2: And the more I talk to them about it, the
Speaker 2: more of a of a mind they're going to have
Speaker 2: for the fact that this is still show business, you know,
Speaker 2: and and that there's a business to everything, and the
Speaker 2: more verse you are in this side of it, the
Speaker 2: easier your life is going to Yeah yeah, because they
Speaker 2: don't have classes in school that teach you that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff like just life skills about you know, show
Speaker 2: my agure, but balancing a checkbook, but balancing balancing at
Speaker 2: a bank account or or you know, filing your taxes
Speaker 2: or knowing.
Speaker 1: For you that you have so much money you have
Speaker 1: to hire an accountant. There you go, absolutely, that's that's
Speaker 1: the way to go it. Yeah, that's the goal. That
Speaker 1: is the goal.
Speaker 2: Man, oh man.
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Speaker 2: Do it now?
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I think it's time for a voice swap.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Oh, this is true, It's so true.
Speaker 3: This is a little game we play, little game we play.
Speaker 3: It's pretty straightforward, but somehow I always managed to screw
Speaker 3: it up. Okay, So Jim will do a voice of
Speaker 3: one of his characters, okay, and then you will do
Speaker 3: that same line, but in a voice of one of
Speaker 3: your characters, and then we'll swap vice versa.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, there we go.
Speaker 4: That sounds good, so.
Speaker 3: Se, So wait, what if we do two characters from
Speaker 3: in the same show. Oh, do you still remember the
Speaker 3: voice of Scroll?
Speaker 1: I think sort of. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: Or Thanos? I know you remember Thanos?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Thanos I do?
Speaker 3: And Spider Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do okay. Oh no, I gotta think of
Speaker 1: a likely line.
Speaker 3: Well, you do a Spider Man line and then we'll
Speaker 3: just do it back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: Oka, say my name and I magically appear. Say my
Speaker 2: name and I magically appear.
Speaker 1: I don't have that kind of depth, but I'll try.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was tritoned into the last two okay movies.
Speaker 1: So let's see supastioned sebastioned.
Speaker 2: They have not one brain among them, and I do
Speaker 2: the same one. Uh huh.
Speaker 4: As from as one of you.
Speaker 2: You okay, Sebastian, Sebastian one. They have not one brain
Speaker 2: among them? Okay, I'll do it as iron Man Sebastian. Sebastian,
Speaker 2: they have not one brain among them.
Speaker 1: Well Tony Stark has a lot of He's got enough
Speaker 1: brains for everybody he does.
Speaker 2: That is so freaking awesome.
Speaker 3: Wait, can you do what as iron Man for me?
Speaker 3: Just a little personal? Can you say, uh, Jarvis maximum
Speaker 3: pulse that family of four?
Speaker 2: Jarvis maximum pulse, that family of four? Yeah, that that
Speaker 2: one right there.
Speaker 4: At all.
Speaker 2: I want to see it later when I'm having shwarma.
Speaker 3: That when you do that voice, do you put some
Speaker 3: of Robert Downey Junior in it?
Speaker 2: You kind of have to, Like, I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: voicematch him, because like they when I first got hired
Speaker 2: for that, they it's funny like they didn't necessarily want
Speaker 2: to Rob Downey Junior voice match because there's somebody that
Speaker 2: does it way better than I do. My friend McK
Speaker 2: winger is like the official Robert Downey Junior voice match
Speaker 2: and he can sound literally just like him. You close
Speaker 2: your eyes, you wouldn't know it's not RDJ in front
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But even though I'm not necessarily trying to be him,
Speaker 2: it's He's defined that.
Speaker 3: Character exactly like exactly.
Speaker 2: So it is kind of disingenuous to not really have
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's a lot of just his dismissiveness
Speaker 2: and and the fact that he could just go and
Speaker 2: be talking and talking and then just immediately switch to
Speaker 2: something else. And uh, it's it's more just in certain
Speaker 2: mannerisms and attitude that he carries that I've now kind
Speaker 2: of associated with that character. And so yeah, so I
Speaker 2: mean just popping some of that stuff in there helps
Speaker 2: it still identify to people who are very familiar with
Speaker 2: that Iron Man and just put it in that spirit.
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I personally think it's one of the
Speaker 3: best performances in the game. I think you, I think you.
Speaker 3: James Arnold Taylor is Magneto. That's he does a great job.
Speaker 3: And I forget his name, but he plays no more.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just I just saw him.
Speaker 3: He does a great job.
Speaker 2: He did like a Marvel rival signing over at one
Speaker 2: of my convention agents and he was there. I just
Speaker 2: met him. And what is his name? I'm gonna look
Speaker 2: it up because it's gonna bother me. And he was
Speaker 2: so sweet, he was so nice, and I don't I'm
Speaker 2: horrible with names. It's like a week. I'm usually not.
Speaker 2: Let me see, I'll look.
Speaker 1: Him up right now, talk amongst yourselves out there, folks.
Speaker 1: We're doing research. This is top notch, highly professional research.
Speaker 2: Here it is.
Speaker 3: And he's a younger guy. He's a younger guy, if
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, My sweet.
Speaker 2: Susan Daniel Daniel Marin, Yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, no more more, man. That game is. That
Speaker 3: game is a blast. You should really you should stream
Speaker 3: that game.
Speaker 2: I do want to play it. You have one viewer
Speaker 2: A wa yeah, sweet, because right now I've mainly been
Speaker 2: streaming World of Warcraft.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, which is another thing.
Speaker 2: I mean I've played that thing.
Speaker 3: You've been playing that for a while, right, twenty years?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an old game and it's still awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm King of the Alliance in that and I
Speaker 2: had already been playing for like eight years before I
Speaker 2: even auditioned to be in the game.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you believe in the law of attraction?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, seems like you've manifested a lot of things with
Speaker 3: that one.
Speaker 2: Like when I got the audition for that, I was
Speaker 2: cocky as hell because I was like, I don't care
Speaker 2: who they get to audition for this. There's nobody in
Speaker 2: this town who has played this game more than I have. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I'd literally played the character that I had been
Speaker 2: playing at the time. I mean I had maybe four
Speaker 2: months of in game time, like months, twenty four hours,
Speaker 2: Like if you were to take all my in game
Speaker 2: put it all together, really four months of my life.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, Now are you are you hip to
Speaker 1: Lord Walker Chow in that game?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, did you Iwalker?
Speaker 2: That's amazing, And they're actually they're bringing because what they
Speaker 2: do they have retail Wow, which is like the most
Speaker 2: current expansion, but then they've been also doing Wow Classic,
Speaker 2: which is older expansions that you play as they were,
Speaker 2: and Pandaria is the next minute Classic and that that
Speaker 2: actually was the first expansion that I was in. That's
Speaker 2: where I started as.
Speaker 4: And the mists of Yeah, have you ever been down there?
Speaker 2: It's a Blizzard too. Oh yeah, I mean is that
Speaker 2: place insane?
Speaker 1: It's super cool, unbelievable if you guys ever get a
Speaker 1: big statue, unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's kind of profitable to be in that business.
Speaker 2: Oh only slightly, I guess, just a.
Speaker 4: Little little bit yeah, very small.
Speaker 1: What is it ten times more than Major Motion Pictures.
Speaker 3: The last I saw it was up to like four
Speaker 3: and a half. Yeah, it's crazy four and a half times.
Speaker 2: And they're not even at their like peak right now,
Speaker 2: Like their peak was was right before Minecraft came out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like at that point that.
Speaker 3: I think it was crazy. For me personally, Fortnite was
Speaker 3: just insane the amount of money that game was Jared
Speaker 3: it was like twenty eighteen. I think they made like
Speaker 3: almost three billion dollars in one year.
Speaker 2: Crazy, It's crazy for a.
Speaker 3: Freezer play game. And just like blew my mind. I
Speaker 3: was like what, like, yeah, they're having live concerts and
Speaker 3: stuff in this game, Like, what is going on here?
Speaker 3: What kind of game is this? Wow?
Speaker 4: I got to get this off my chest.
Speaker 1: Years in, I mean twenty something years ago, when when
Speaker 1: video games were first starting to weasel their way in
Speaker 1: there was something Gabriel Knight, Tim Curry was in and
Speaker 1: this and that, and I remember going to two SAG
Speaker 1: after meetings and we had just first they were if
Speaker 1: you can actually believe this out there they were going, oh,
Speaker 1: well we're not going to worry about cable TV. Listen,
Speaker 1: we got MBC. We got ABC, we got CBS. There's
Speaker 1: a and then there's a PBS. We get a few
Speaker 1: nickels there, and so I went out cable Mabel.
Speaker 4: Okay, I was the only one.
Speaker 2: I go.
Speaker 4: If we don't, nothing comes out and then fails.
Speaker 3: Did I mean yet?
Speaker 1: You know remember the horseless carriages?
Speaker 2: I don't either, But apparently.
Speaker 1: Cars are doing okay as you know that they seem
Speaker 1: to be sticking around and they didn't know nobody listened.
Speaker 2: I feel like the Union has been so behind every
Speaker 2: single new technology as it comes out. With new media,
Speaker 2: yeah I still call new media, and it's like it's
Speaker 2: not new anymore. Yeah yeah, I mean with that, it
Speaker 2: just it sucks. It's like I love so many of
Speaker 2: the technological advances and so many of the business changes
Speaker 2: that have happened, like when they switch from like taxis
Speaker 2: to uber and where they go and just say, well,
Speaker 2: this is a new thing, so these contracts don't apply,
Speaker 2: and it's just basically a way of getting out of
Speaker 2: like all of their old stuff. Because if you look
Speaker 2: at the way that if you look at the way
Speaker 2: that new media is released now, it's released like week
Speaker 2: by week, just like like broadcasts used to be and
Speaker 2: now they have ads on it just like they had
Speaker 2: with broadcasts, and they can track the audience more than
Speaker 2: they can with broadcasts. But now you don't get the
Speaker 2: same kind of residuals that we did with broadcast TV,
Speaker 2: even though like you literally have to pay for that service.
Speaker 2: It's not even like a free to broadcast thing. It's
Speaker 2: just crazy like they're none of it's caught up. And
Speaker 2: then the fight that we're going through with AI and
Speaker 2: all of that in video games where we're on strikes
Speaker 2: still because I mean I had to walk away from
Speaker 2: there was a Triple A game. I obviously can't say
Speaker 2: what it was, but there's a Triple A game that
Speaker 2: I was one of the leads in and it was
Speaker 2: one of these ones that was kind of like on
Speaker 2: the fence where it was because for those that don't know,
Speaker 2: there's red tag games, which are like games that you
Speaker 2: cannot touch because they were striking those companies. They haven't
Speaker 2: even started production, they're completely struck. There's the green tagged ones.
Speaker 2: The green tagged ones are ones where they've actually signed
Speaker 2: an interim agreement. So even though we're on strike, they
Speaker 2: these particular games have agreed to our turn to come
Speaker 2: to yeah, to come to the table and agree by
Speaker 2: these rules and these protections. So we're like, okay, we'll
Speaker 2: work on those during the strike. And then they're the
Speaker 2: yellow Tag games. The yellow Tag games are ones that
Speaker 2: were started before the strike, so they were technically started
Speaker 2: under the old contract, and you can technically work on them.
Speaker 2: You're not going to get in trouble with the union
Speaker 2: by working on them. However, it does kind of undermine
Speaker 2: the strike because you're giving the the video game company's
Speaker 2: material to release to weather out the strike, and so
Speaker 2: you're kind of shooting yourself in your foot. And there
Speaker 2: are still some actors, like big actors, who are working
Speaker 2: these games and it's really not productive for anybody. But
Speaker 2: it's not are they You're you're not considered a scab,
Speaker 2: but but but you're not helping, You're you're actively harming,
Speaker 2: but you're taking home a paycheck, which I guess is
Speaker 2: their main concern. I walked away from this game where
Speaker 2: it was it was like a team of people, uh
Speaker 2: and I was one of the four and I don't
Speaker 2: I don't know who the fourth one was, but I
Speaker 2: remember a couple of friends mine. Again, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to say their names, mainly because NDAs and all that.
Speaker 2: But a couple of friends of mine were the other
Speaker 2: two two of the others in the squad, and they
Speaker 2: just kind of contacted me and said, are you're going
Speaker 2: to do this game because it's you know, we're we're
Speaker 2: thinking of withholding work on it. And when they said that,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'm not going to be the
Speaker 2: one that Yeah, you be.
Speaker 3: My buddies.
Speaker 2: So the three of us withheld work. I'm sure they
Speaker 2: probably still went through with production on that game. But
Speaker 2: and that that was a mocap game. Any sessions I
Speaker 2: was making well over scaled for that, so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: all that money gone. But if we have to fight
Speaker 2: this fight now, because if we don't, there's no there's
Speaker 2: no business. Like there's stated their stated goal. Their stated
Speaker 2: want is to be able to basically use anything that
Speaker 2: we've ever done, feeded into a machine and yes and
Speaker 2: never pass, not pass for anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy, it's all.
Speaker 2: It's all built on theft.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I always say here, take this with the end.
Speaker 2: There you go, like if somebody did the calculation and
Speaker 2: if you were to act actually work into the cost
Speaker 2: of AI because they say, oh, it's cost savings and
Speaker 2: all that. If you were to work into the cost
Speaker 2: of AI, the cost of actually tracking everything that goes
Speaker 2: in to train the AI, and the cost of fairly
Speaker 2: compensating everybody who's stuff trained the AI, there's no cost savings.
Speaker 2: It's actually more expensive than to just hire the actual person.
Speaker 1: I've heard.
Speaker 2: I've heard people feed my voice into AI. There have
Speaker 2: been like mods that they've done where they put like
Speaker 2: my Spider Man voice into the Spider Man game. And
Speaker 2: the thing is is, like the AI can match my
Speaker 2: voice print. It can do that, but it doesn't match
Speaker 2: what I do. It doesn't match my acting with choices
Speaker 2: all that. Like when I listened to it, I heard
Speaker 2: it and they're they're modeling the Spider Man game that
Speaker 2: you're a Spider Man in. So I listened to it.
Speaker 2: It's my voice print, but it's still URI's acting. Still,
Speaker 2: it's still the way that he acts. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 2: with the way he acts, but it's not what I
Speaker 2: would So it's not really me. It's like a weird thing.
Speaker 2: It's not the choices that I would have made. Like
Speaker 2: I said, nothing against you, it's just but what this is,
Speaker 2: it's just my voice print for that, but that kind
Speaker 2: of further cements the fact that on its own, AI
Speaker 2: really has to have an actor underneath it to drive
Speaker 2: the voice. Print. Yes, the same way that like mocap,
Speaker 2: if I'm playing like a creature that looks nothing like me,
Speaker 2: it still has to have an actor underneath it, moving
Speaker 2: it and puppeting it and doing it all on that
Speaker 2: for it to be real and for it to feel.
Speaker 4: Like for you actually feel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it still needs somebody to drive it. So at
Speaker 2: that point, like you're gonna have to still hire an
Speaker 2: actor to like drive the voice, So why not just
Speaker 2: cut up and it seems like acting with extra steps?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy to me, it's crazy, Yeah, unnecessarily.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My main concern is not what AI is capable of,
Speaker 2: it's what people are being trained to accept. Because when
Speaker 2: you go on TikTok, like a majority of this stuff
Speaker 2: on there is narrated by the same crappy AI voices.
Speaker 2: You know, you see so much of that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: a lot of AI art, So it's like people have
Speaker 2: already had this stuff seeded into their mind for so long.
Speaker 2: My concern is like they're just gonna think it's good enough. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was gonna're gonna think that the crap that AI
Speaker 2: can turn out on it's going to be the great.
Speaker 2: It's going too we're settling. Yeah, like it's it's good
Speaker 2: enough because that's what they've been trained to accept. So
Speaker 2: that's that's my concern. That's legit. Yeah, that's a very
Speaker 2: good that's a good point, the dumbing down. But I
Speaker 2: still exactly, but I still feel like there's still going
Speaker 2: to be a market for for for like, you know,
Speaker 2: actual actual creativity, actual acting.
Speaker 1: There always has to be a market for excellence. Yea,
Speaker 1: you know, there's always room for better, right, Absolutely, that's
Speaker 1: that's got.
Speaker 2: To be you know, knock on wood all that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and if not, you know, I I like doing stuff
Speaker 2: around the house and doing electrical work. Maybe I'll get
Speaker 2: my electricians license and do that. You know, we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens.
Speaker 4: So listen, do you have anything you'd like to announce
Speaker 4: like an upcoming ben.
Speaker 2: I'm doing a ton of conventions this year. When is
Speaker 2: this going to air?
Speaker 3: About two weeks? Three weeks?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I will have already been at four State
Speaker 2: Comic con in Hagerstown, Maryland, which I'm doing this weekend.
Speaker 2: But that's going to be after this.
Speaker 3: I will be at Galaxy Con Oklahoma City on Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2: I will also be how about New Orleans, I will
Speaker 2: be at the New Orleans one.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'll be at that one as well, my second hometown.
Speaker 2: Are you going to be at that one? I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I hope you're there. I am too. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 2: I'll take it to the palace. I would love that.
Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing a bunch of them. Just
Speaker 2: I'm gonna actually put together a list of the ones
Speaker 2: that they've cleared me to announce on my socials. So
Speaker 2: my socials will be on Twitter. I will always call
Speaker 2: it Twitter. Josh Keaton just Josh Keaton on Twitch, It's
Speaker 2: space Padre on Instagram at space Padre. On Facebook, it's
Speaker 2: Josh Keaton's page, and uh TikTok, it's v Josh Keaton
Speaker 2: because somebody already had Josh Keaton. I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: it's fair. Yeah, I know that I'm not the only one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's something I can't be too mad at other Josh Keaton. Yeah.
Speaker 4: There was a guy out.
Speaker 1: There named Jim Cummings and he was and he had
Speaker 1: a band, the Jim Cummings band, and that was really
Speaker 1: pissed me off a little.
Speaker 4: Wait, I'm not in that band.
Speaker 2: You should?
Speaker 3: I should?
Speaker 1: What the hell anyway? But yeah, he played bass. Anybody
Speaker 1: can play it. But you're also going to be at
Speaker 1: Chattanooga Comic Con. Yes, so you have, so I've done
Speaker 1: look at that. Yeah, and we've got your social media. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we mentioned that Josh Keaton or space Space
Speaker 1: that was.
Speaker 4: An interesting one. Space that one came from.
Speaker 2: It came from Voltron because I got nicknamed Space Dad
Speaker 2: from that because he was kind of like the leader
Speaker 2: of the team. He kind of was like the the
Speaker 2: oldest one of the group and so and so they
Speaker 2: kind of called him Space Dad. They actually called Hal
Speaker 2: Jordan in Green Lantern Space Dad as well, because he
Speaker 2: kind of like he kind of like had this this
Speaker 2: dadish vibe towards his ai Aya, who ended up taking
Speaker 2: on a humanoid form and was very protective of her.
Speaker 2: And so that's where I first got called Space Dad.
Speaker 2: But it really got popularized with Voltron, and uh, space
Speaker 2: Dad was already taken. So I'm latinos so I was like, well,
Speaker 2: let's let's do uh No, that's great, because I didn't
Speaker 2: I didn't want to do Papa, because then it would
Speaker 2: just like space Papa, which could also be like space Potato,
Speaker 2: which is actually kind of funny, and maybe space Potato.
Speaker 2: But I was like, by the way, space Jam was taken,
Speaker 2: Space Jam was definitely taken.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Well, thanks for being here.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Man.
Speaker 3: It's always good to see you.
Speaker 2: Always, good to see you.
Speaker 3: Yes, pleasure talking too.
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. Yes, great to see all of you.
Speaker 3: And we have to get a picture before we go.
Speaker 3: Absolutely have to get a picture. Absolutely, But before that
Speaker 3: I will wrap this up. Thank you everybody for watching
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Speaker 2: Hey, that was fun. Thank you that you brother,