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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening to Depictions Media Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Policy and Writes.

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<v Speaker 3>Show Policy and Human Joy.

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<v Speaker 2>This is policy and Rights. I'm Kelly Rayburn here in

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<v Speaker 2>the metro Adelaide of South Australia and in Shadow Park

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<v Speaker 2>where it's thirty minutes south of Adelaide on the Motor Expressway.

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<v Speaker 2>Today I'm going to be talking about the issues on

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<v Speaker 2>the parklands in South Australia and especially the parklands rate

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<v Speaker 2>in the heart of Adelaide. Adelaide deals with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of parklands surrounding the area near the city district in

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<v Speaker 2>South Australia. Adelaide Parklands Association is a community based nonprofit

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<v Speaker 2>organization founded in nineteen eighty seven to protect, restore and

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<v Speaker 2>to promote exploration of the Adelaide Parklands, which are National

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<v Speaker 2>Heritage Heritage listed urban park system. Its activators include guided walks,

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<v Speaker 2>park art prizes and the use of social media to

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<v Speaker 2>share photos and advocacy to protect the four of the

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<v Speaker 2>parks from threats. The Adelaide Parklands Association gives out open

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<v Speaker 2>publics and they give out twice monthly newsletter to people

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<v Speaker 2>who are interested in green space public but the situation

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<v Speaker 2>that is happening to the parklands in Adelaide is changing

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<v Speaker 2>all of that. The City of Adelaide and north of

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<v Speaker 2>Adelaide are taking part of the parkway and giving some

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<v Speaker 2>space to many of the sports fans who do, I

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<v Speaker 2>should say, dealing with golf courses. All that parkland is

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<v Speaker 2>part of the parkland, including a little bit of the

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<v Speaker 2>golf course. However, what South Australians are saying and what

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<v Speaker 2>the South Australian government is saying, they're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>all of that golf lands and really put it in

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<v Speaker 2>use of a professional golf tournament over there anywhere in

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<v Speaker 2>that area where the Torrents River is north of Adelaide

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<v Speaker 2>and west of the Adelaide Oval where the AFL does

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<v Speaker 2>their footing with the Adelaide Crows and the Port Adelaide

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<v Speaker 2>Power on right beside where there's the parklands is beside

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<v Speaker 2>where the stadium is. That area is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>cut off two professional golfers and all of it's uh,

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<v Speaker 2>all of its parklands. The premier Peter Maling's Malling alcass

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pronounce it m A l I n

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<v Speaker 2>a U K s k A S has a vision

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<v Speaker 2>that your parklands must be profit centers and that therefore

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<v Speaker 2>open green in public land as well as trees. Bivoua's

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<v Speaker 2>bid buy or bionosity must be servant or sacrifice to monkey,

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<v Speaker 2>not monkey to money making impersonative such as in brackets,

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<v Speaker 2>but not only l ivy golf. Many people are frustrated,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the city of Adelaide, and especially my mother

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<v Speaker 2>who is participated in all of this, is furious, is

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<v Speaker 2>fumed about this situation of where all these cut trees,

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<v Speaker 2>trees are gonna be cut and design a bigger golf

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<v Speaker 2>course for professional golfers. If you want more information about

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<v Speaker 2>the situation here on the parklands, you can go to

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<v Speaker 2>the website Adelaide Parklands adlaid dash Parklands, dot asn dot

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<v Speaker 2>AU forward slash golf. I'm going to play use some

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<v Speaker 2>of the clips that is everywhere you see it in

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<v Speaker 2>your valleys and you probably might have seen my picture

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<v Speaker 2>with myself with the postage with my mother along with it.

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<v Speaker 2>How frustrated on this Adelaide Park Parklands Association is demanding,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the local governments and the state government of

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<v Speaker 2>South Australia to stop this petition on adding in luxurious

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<v Speaker 2>high rises and of course, the golf course, the PHA

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<v Speaker 2>golf course that is happening here in South Australia. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you lots of clips on it

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<v Speaker 2>now wherever I can to give you some examples of

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<v Speaker 2>the takeover to the parklands. Sadly, however, that I was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do the clip for Facebook on the last

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<v Speaker 2>night's meeting, the sound quality isn't very well quality. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>put it that way all right. Last night's are not

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<v Speaker 2>yes last nights, but it was on recorded on September

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, of which I am now recording on September

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seconds. So with me, I'm going to do my

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<v Speaker 2>best to do my do the recordings and even if

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<v Speaker 2>I have to do an interview that is like three

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, I may as well have to do it anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So they go. Anyways, here's here's some of the clips

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<v Speaker 2>that are give you an example of what is really

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<v Speaker 2>happening with the Adete Parklands Association. I hope you enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to know more about me, I do

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<v Speaker 2>my show Comes and Maples, my email addresses comes and

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<v Speaker 2>Maples at gmail dot com. And of course I uh

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<v Speaker 2>this is depictions media where it shows about government policy

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<v Speaker 2>and issue rights. You can contact him in Canada Michael

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<v Speaker 2>at depictions media dot com. And now I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>give you the information on what's on YouTube and what's

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<v Speaker 2>on the social media part of what's happening in and

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<v Speaker 2>around Alaide park Lands Association. So now we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>hear the City of Adelaide's Mayor, Jane while Mac Smith

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<v Speaker 2>on the address of the issue to the Alaide Parklands.

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<v Speaker 4>So I want to apologize to the Parklands Association because

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<v Speaker 4>I am out of the state and actually out of

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<v Speaker 4>the country this morning, but I wanted to have a

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<v Speaker 4>chance to speak to you. In reality, I can't contribute

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<v Speaker 4>much to the discussion about how liver Golf will operate

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<v Speaker 4>or what will be occurring in the design phase of

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<v Speaker 4>this development. But what I do know is the wording

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<v Speaker 4>of the legislation that went through I have to say

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<v Speaker 4>at warp speed through both houses of Parliament because I

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<v Speaker 4>think it has implications for the future of the City

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<v Speaker 4>of Adelaide Parklands and also the relationship that the state

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<v Speaker 4>has with local government generally. So if I can just

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<v Speaker 4>talk about that, because I know that most people or

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<v Speaker 4>many of you would not have read the legislation. I

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<v Speaker 4>just want to explain what it does and what the

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<v Speaker 4>parameters for the future will be. The North Adelaide Public

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<v Speaker 4>Golf Course Act twenty twenty five has some extraordinary features.

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<v Speaker 4>It starts, of course, by involving ten percent of our parklands,

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<v Speaker 4>but gives the state the right to take extra land

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<v Speaker 4>if required. It does something unusual that changes the status

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<v Speaker 4>from crownland or parklands into fee simple, which is the

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<v Speaker 4>way my house and land is described, because it's the

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<v Speaker 4>way that normally ownership of land occurs in the state.

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<v Speaker 4>It also takes all care and control of the away

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<v Speaker 4>from the council and takes all the infrastructure, plant and

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<v Speaker 4>equipment that has been frankly invested in for one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>years by the city Council and our ratepayers. It requires

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<v Speaker 4>all leases to be canceled. Amazingly, it designates every development

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<v Speaker 4>or any development as complying, and takes all legislative protections

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<v Speaker 4>away from our park lands. These aren't council regulations. These

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<v Speaker 4>are government introduced regulations and they are all removed except

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<v Speaker 4>one act, fortunately, which is the Aboriginal Heritage Act. It

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<v Speaker 4>specifically says the EPA will not apply during events, which

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<v Speaker 4>is in itself pretty unusual because having been involved with

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<v Speaker 4>major events for many decades. Over the years, we have

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<v Speaker 4>increased the environmental management and quality of these events to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure that our priceless environment is preserved. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>it precludes all fees and licenses being charged and doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>have any space for compensation, which is interesting because, however

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<v Speaker 4>you look at it, the people of Adelaide and the

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<v Speaker 4>red players have invested in this land. But most extraordinarily

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<v Speaker 4>for me, it states explicitly that if the Adelaide City

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<v Speaker 4>Council fails to comply with the direction of the Minister

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<v Speaker 4>under subsection two, the Minister may take any action required

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<v Speaker 4>under the direction or necesscessary for the direction to be

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<v Speaker 4>carried out, as if the Minister were the Adelaide City Council.

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<v Speaker 4>So I am optimistic and the most important relationship the

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<v Speaker 4>city council has is the one with the state government.

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<v Speaker 4>But let us never forget that we only have the

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<v Speaker 4>parklands in the state therein now because the City of

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<v Speaker 4>Adelaide has fought to protect them, preserve them and invested

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<v Speaker 4>in them. This is an episode. We have a long

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<v Speaker 4>history behind us and we have a future. We have

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<v Speaker 4>to ensure that our parklands are protected.

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<v Speaker 1>There is only one city in the world that is

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<v Speaker 1>built inside a park. This is the story of that park,

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<v Speaker 1>the only park in the world with a city inside it.

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<v Speaker 1>City life can take a toll. Many of us live

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<v Speaker 1>and work in crowded artificial environments, but more and more

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<v Speaker 1>evidence is emerging about the health benefits of spending time

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<v Speaker 1>in open, green public spaces and retaining mature estate ablished trees.

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<v Speaker 1>Nearly every city has one or more parks. Around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>urban parks are prized like jewels. A city with lots

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<v Speaker 1>of open green public space is a wealthy city. One

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<v Speaker 1>city has not just a few green gems, but an

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<v Speaker 1>entire garland of jewels. Adelaide is the only city in

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<v Speaker 1>the world that is built inside a park. The park's

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<v Speaker 1>not a circle, It's a figure eight wrapping around the

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<v Speaker 1>CBD and North Adelaide. Your Adelaide parklands were designed. In

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirty seven, European colonists took over the land from

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<v Speaker 1>Ghana people who had lived here for tens of thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of years. Despite losing their lands, many Ghana people remained

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<v Speaker 1>in the vicinity of the colonist's settlement. It took only

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<v Speaker 1>two decades for the colonists to strip the parklands of

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<v Speaker 1>almost all native vegetation, but since then, slowly and gradually

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<v Speaker 1>parts have been revegetated. Over generations, Your Adelaide Parklands have

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<v Speaker 1>become like a vintage patchwork quilt, made and remade to

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<v Speaker 1>serve a variety of purposes sports fields, playgrounds, formal gardens,

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<v Speaker 1>open air event spaces and areas where native vegetation has

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<v Speaker 1>been restored. The patchwork includes lots of separate parks, but

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<v Speaker 1>they make up something larger, much more significant than any

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<v Speaker 1>one park in isolation. In two thousand and eight, Your

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<v Speaker 1>Adelaide Parklands were listed as part of Australia's National Heritage.

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<v Speaker 1>They are described on the National Heritage Register as a

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<v Speaker 1>master work of urban design, a major influence on the

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<v Speaker 1>garden city planning movement, one of the most important Western

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<v Speaker 1>urban planning initiatives in history.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of cities around the world have a park land,

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<v Speaker 5>but to have this incredible north south east west area

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<v Speaker 5>of parklands that envelops the whole city is really special

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<v Speaker 5>and quite twadlight.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's a great idea because it ensures that

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<v Speaker 6>everyone in a city is going to be able to

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<v Speaker 6>have the benefits of being in a park.

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<v Speaker 3>Adelaide is a truly unique place, the only city entirely

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<v Speaker 3>embedded within a park, and that's such a special thing

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<v Speaker 3>to have that really strong connection with nature.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no city that has this kind of inner

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<v Speaker 4>city landscape.

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<v Speaker 7>There are so many cities around the world that don't

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<v Speaker 7>enjoy quite the same parkland that we do have. But

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<v Speaker 7>by treasure those parklands.

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<v Speaker 8>A visitor falls in love with that LFE because of

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<v Speaker 8>the parklands.

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<v Speaker 6>In a perfect and ideal world, all of these cities

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<v Speaker 6>could as fire to be.

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<v Speaker 1>This despite their world's significance, your parklands are shrinking. Year

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<v Speaker 1>after year, new buildings are constructed on your parklands, gradually

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<v Speaker 1>whittling them away.

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<v Speaker 5>Think about the challenges the world's facing now around climate change.

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<v Speaker 5>It's really important to have green spaces, cooling spaces in

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<v Speaker 5>your CBD, in around your city centers.

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<v Speaker 7>We can't have a situation where the parklands are slowly

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<v Speaker 7>eaten up by pet projects for politicians.

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<v Speaker 4>If we use it and it means more buildings will

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<v Speaker 4>eventually lose the asset that is world class.

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<v Speaker 1>Community actions in support of your parklands are sometimes effective.

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<v Speaker 2>From the wide of rphy of that to take that

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<v Speaker 2>away from mush.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is no more that protects your Adelaide parklands

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<v Speaker 1>from these constant attacks. Ad hoc decision making leaves them vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 9>Of all places, they've got to choose our parkland.

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<v Speaker 1>Valuable land next to the city center. Is it a

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<v Speaker 1>green treasure or is it merely a future development site?

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<v Speaker 8>They can't be considered as a land bank. It is

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<v Speaker 8>just horrifying to think that anyone would consider this as

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<v Speaker 8>a land bank.

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<v Speaker 1>But your Adelaid parklands will be protected only when a

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<v Speaker 1>sufficient number of people demand that they're protected. They are

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<v Speaker 1>worlds only, but they need you to help protect them.

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<v Speaker 10>All right.

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<v Speaker 11>Welcome to the third episode of Meet Adelaide, and my

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<v Speaker 11>guest this evening is Shane Sodi. Now, Shane is an

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<v Speaker 11>avid cyclist. You hold a couple of world records. I

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<v Speaker 11>believe only one world record.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll go into that.

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<v Speaker 11>He wrote one hundred and fifty one kilometers today. But

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<v Speaker 11>he's also the president of the Adelaide Parklands Association, and

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<v Speaker 11>he's one of the most determined people that I've ever

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<v Speaker 11>think I've met who's in the political sphere. You're a

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<v Speaker 11>strong advocate for the parklands and quite inspiration to me.

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<v Speaker 11>The way that you pursue this vision and your your

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<v Speaker 11>commitment and passion for something, and I found that absolutely

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<v Speaker 11>inspired me from when I first met you as well.

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<v Speaker 11>So welcome, Shane, thanks for being on my show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much for having me. That's very kind words.

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<v Speaker 10>No, so well, Shane, let's start off.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, so I want to hear a little bit

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<v Speaker 11>about your background, where you came from and growing up

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<v Speaker 11>and your early life.

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<v Speaker 10>So where'd you where'd you grow up to grow up

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<v Speaker 3>Or No, Well, I'm sixty six years old, so I've

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of backstory, born in nineteen fifty six.

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<v Speaker 3>And Judith Durham died yesterday and she was like the

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<v Speaker 3>soundtrack of my childhood, totally apropell of nothing. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I just know who that is. The Seekers nineen sixty

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<v Speaker 3>years Hey there, Georgie Girl, the Carnival is over all

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<v Speaker 3>those songs.

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<v Speaker 10>The only Seekers I know play quidditch.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well it's sort of you know, nostalgia is in

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<v Speaker 3>what it used to be, they say, But that just

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<v Speaker 3>took me back to my childhood and all those songs

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<v Speaker 3>that was bigger in the nineteen sixties. Or I'm really

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<v Speaker 3>showing my age. Okay, I grew up in Melbourne and

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<v Speaker 3>I only came to Adelaide when I was sixteen years

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<v Speaker 3>old with my family. We lived at Ony right opposite

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<v Speaker 3>the road and only over.

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<v Speaker 10>So we'd have to pay for a teat Yeah, from

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<v Speaker 10>the roof as well, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wasn't game enough to get off on the

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<v Speaker 3>roof with him. But yeah, that was our introduction to

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<v Speaker 3>Adelaide in the nineteen That would have been when I

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<v Speaker 3>was nineteen seventy.

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<v Speaker 10>Two, okay, yeah, and so why they.

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<v Speaker 3>Move, oh, from Victoria. I don't know. God, that's going

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<v Speaker 3>so far back I can't remember. But yeah, anyway, the

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<v Speaker 3>family came over here then, and yeah, we loved Adelaide,

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<v Speaker 3>fell in love with it, and I left home when

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<v Speaker 3>I was eighteen and I traveled around Australia working in

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<v Speaker 3>radio stations and then eventually came back to Adelaide to

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<v Speaker 3>settle in nineteen eighty five and I've been here ever since.

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<v Speaker 10>Right, So.

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<v Speaker 11>You would have moved from you would have had a

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<v Speaker 11>whole friendship group and everything when you were sixteen coming Adelaide.

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<v Speaker 11>What was it like moving here and then going to

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<v Speaker 11>I'm only high I'm guessing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, when I came to Adelaide, i'd already left high school.

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<v Speaker 3>I left high school pretty early. I was a dropout.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh great, Yeah, I later went back to you. I

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<v Speaker 3>did university when I was thirty five?

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<v Speaker 10>Right, what did you study?

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<v Speaker 3>I have an arts degree and a law degree? Me too,

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<v Speaker 3>first class honors, you get first class? Well, one thing

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<v Speaker 3>you know about me? When I'm determined to do something, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I do it all the way. There's no sort of

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<v Speaker 3>half measures. So I thought, if I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 3>to university, I want a law degree, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>just want any law degree. I want first class and honors.

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<v Speaker 3>So I did what I had to do to get that.

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<v Speaker 11>See, I am an outcomes focused person, so for me,

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<v Speaker 11>peace get degrees.

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<v Speaker 10>But yeah I did. So what did you do in

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<v Speaker 10>your arts? I guess you would have done media or no.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, having had a long experience in media in commercial

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<v Speaker 3>radio and a tiny little bit in TV.

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<v Speaker 10>But exclusively at thirty five, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, commercial radio from my early twenties. Yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>need to study that. At Uni. I studied art subjects

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<v Speaker 3>that just appealed to me. Great, I wanted a law degree,

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<v Speaker 3>and you at that stage. I don't know whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>still a case, but you can't get a law degree

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<v Speaker 3>unless you had another degree at the university. So I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just do what appeals to me. So I studied

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<v Speaker 3>philosophy and psychology and Japanese language and Asian history.

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<v Speaker 10>Great.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, so I added philosophy and economics, and economics would

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<v Speaker 11>have killed me if I did as a major. So

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<v Speaker 11>my philosophy actually massively sub like softened my economics degree.

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<v Speaker 11>So I didn't have to do any of the mass subjects,

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<v Speaker 11>even though I'm a tax law I didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 11>So I did words instead. But why did you do

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<v Speaker 11>the law degree at such at thirty five? Did you

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<v Speaker 11>want to transition to become a lawyer?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah I was. I was news director at five

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<v Speaker 3>a D and five DN, and I was getting I

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<v Speaker 3>had no qualifications as a journalist. I was very experienced

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<v Speaker 3>as a journalist, but no formal qualifications. Back then, you

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<v Speaker 3>could do that. You could just come up through the ranks.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was getting to the stage where I was

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<v Speaker 3>hiring and firing journalists and the ones who are coming

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<v Speaker 3>to me for a job all had degrees in journalism,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought, this is a bit weird. Here I

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<v Speaker 3>am with no qualifications, and I'm assessing people with qualifications.

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<v Speaker 3>And it just occurred to me that sooner or later,

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<v Speaker 3>with no qualifications, they're going to turf me out and

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<v Speaker 3>bring in somebody younger with a qualification, and then I'll

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<v Speaker 3>have no I'll have no skill to fall back on.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no sort of career advancement beyond news director.

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<v Speaker 3>So I said, I need a qualification. What would I

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<v Speaker 3>be good at a veterinarian?

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<v Speaker 10>Veterinarian the next progression.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're a kid, you want to be a fireman

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<v Speaker 3>or a sign writer or whatever. But no, I decided

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<v Speaker 3>that my skills were best suited to studying law.

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<v Speaker 11>Fantastic, Yeah, so I did, Yeah, right, and so and

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<v Speaker 11>did you use the degree after that or you just

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<v Speaker 11>used it as that.

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<v Speaker 3>I have this arc of you know, because I'm sixty

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<v Speaker 3>six and I've been around for a while, I have

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<v Speaker 3>this arc of experience in my career, and the starting

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<v Speaker 3>point and the ending point look really weird. But each

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<v Speaker 3>of the transitions over my life makes sense in its

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<v Speaker 3>own terms. So I started off as a rock and

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<v Speaker 3>roll disc jockey.

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<v Speaker 10>Knowing your brother, I've seen your brother play. I can

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<v Speaker 10>understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>My brothers are Yeah, he's in my brother Brett Sodi

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<v Speaker 3>has Sody Pop Studios. He's a recording engineer and he's

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<v Speaker 3>in the South Australian Music Hall of Fame. He really,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a legendary music.

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<v Speaker 10>That's the one that played at the Parkland and.

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<v Speaker 3>He played at the Yeah, unpaving Paradise. Yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 3>aw sundraiser. Yeah, well that's his side.

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<v Speaker 10>I couldn't believe it. I was looking at you were

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<v Speaker 10>a spitting image of him. I can't believe you're twins.

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<v Speaker 10>He's just got long hair and I'm like, it's cool Shane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, cool shine. And he's also two years younger than me. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But but playing in a band is his side hustle.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>His main hustle is being the go to guy if

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<v Speaker 3>you want something recorded.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah great, Well I'm in a band actually with my

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<v Speaker 11>producer Handol Kim, So we're we're working on that. We

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<v Speaker 11>only play it law society gigs or step conferences. So

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<v Speaker 11>after you know, Wills and Estates practitioners get together, then

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<v Speaker 11>we play a couple of tunes, but we're still working

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<v Speaker 11>on that. First. Yeah, the force measures, Yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 11>you know, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's force legal legal jargon, but it.

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<v Speaker 11>Also means like basically a dog ate my homework. So

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<v Speaker 11>that's the legal turn. Something went bad, it's not my.

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<v Speaker 3>Fault, that's your excuse for not doing it. Yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 3>force measure Act of God.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, so I'm intrigued.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I find that interesting that you when did the

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<v Speaker 11>degree after you after all that time, because it's interesting. Most,

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<v Speaker 11>like they're really successful people in life do start their

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<v Speaker 11>degrees and they drop out and then they don't ever

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<v Speaker 11>finish it. So they just go, this is what I

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<v Speaker 11>want to do, and then they start pursuing that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I dropped out of high school at age fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>and went to university at age parents say about that,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a long story and we don't get and because

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<v Speaker 3>it's so long ago, we don't need to go into that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's a lot of water under the bridge

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<v Speaker 3>since then. But I went to university at age thirty five,

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<v Speaker 3>so there was a twenty year gap in formal education,

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<v Speaker 3>and it took me ten years to get the law degree.

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<v Speaker 3>From age thirty five to age forty five.

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<v Speaker 6>Yea.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was working and this is where the park

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<v Speaker 3>Lands come in, right, because I was working at the

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<v Speaker 3>time as personal advisor consultant PA media advisor to the

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<v Speaker 3>Honorable Ian Gilfillan, MLC, who was with the Australian Democrats,

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<v Speaker 3>who was a member of the upper House of State Parliament.

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<v Speaker 3>And Ian was the best boss I've ever had. He

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<v Speaker 3>was really really gracious in that I was studying law

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<v Speaker 3>part time, and the requirements of your law degree change

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<v Speaker 3>every semester, you know, like on Tuesdays you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>in a trustsitute. And so I would go to Ian

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<v Speaker 3>and say, look, this semester, I have to change my workdays.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you mind? And he was always accommodating, which was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>So right through the law degree, I was changing my

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<v Speaker 3>workdays with the end to suit the studies in my

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<v Speaker 3>law degree. But it was a two way thing because

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<v Speaker 3>what I was studying in law was valuable for him

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<v Speaker 3>in some of the political things he was doing, and

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<v Speaker 3>the two fed each other. And around about the time

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing my honors dissertation, there was a huge

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<v Speaker 3>court case going on between the Conservation Council of South

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<v Speaker 3>Australia and the tuna boat operators.

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<v Speaker 10>Those tuna but tuna boat yeah those people.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's a massive industry. At Port Lincoln. They

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<v Speaker 3>harvest not fully grown tuna in the Southern Ocean and

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<v Speaker 3>toe well, I'm telling you what used to happen around

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<v Speaker 3>the year two thousand. I don't know if it's changed

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<v Speaker 3>since then, but they would toe the tuna back and

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<v Speaker 3>fatten them up in feed lots of Port Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 10>I think they still do that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And these fully grown tuna were selling back in the

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<v Speaker 3>year two thousand or ninety ninety nine for over one

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars per fish in the Japanese sashimi market. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was a license to print money. And that was

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<v Speaker 3>my honest dissertation still happening. My honest dissertation was about

426
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<v Speaker 3>the legal framework that allowed that to happen amazing, and

427
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 3>what if anything, should be done to regulate both the

428
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 3>environmental effects on the seafloor and Port Lincoln and also

429
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<v Speaker 3>the fact that people who had inherited the right to

430
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<v Speaker 3>take what was not an endangered species, but a species

431
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 3>that is subject to dwindling stock. What was the legal recognition,

432
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:06.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, the legal framework around that. So that was

433
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<v Speaker 3>my honor's dissertation, and that fed into a parliamentary inquiry

434
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.160
<v Speaker 3>that was going on with the Environment, Resources and Development

435
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Committee of State Parliament, on which Ian Gilfillan, my boss,

436
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 3>was serving as one of the members.

437
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:20.839
<v Speaker 10>Of other committee.

438
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I was helped. My research was helping that

439
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:27.440
<v Speaker 3>inquiry and that inquiry was helping my honest dissertation.

440
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.359
<v Speaker 11>Wow, that's called the two going simultaneously. Yeah, so it

441
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 11>was the outcome the concert. I can't remember.

442
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<v Speaker 3>Well, not long after my honors dissertation was finished, in

443
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:41.279
<v Speaker 3>the year two thousand, there was a new Aquaculture Act,

444
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.400
<v Speaker 3>so that basically made my honest dissertation irrelevant very soon

445
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.039
<v Speaker 3>after I had finished it out of date.

446
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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, oh yeah, I mean, isn't it funny how people

447
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<v Speaker 11>do PhDs and.

448
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:53.000
<v Speaker 10>The most obscure things.

449
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and they're all contributing to human knowledge, I suppose

450
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:56.839
<v Speaker 11>at the time.

451
00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:59.759
<v Speaker 3>Well we were, and for all I know, it might

452
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<v Speaker 3>have been what my research might have informed some of

453
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 3>the subsequent legislative changes.

454
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<v Speaker 10>Sure.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, fascinating is that so that was at your first

456
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<v Speaker 11>foray into well, I guess being a disc jockey and

457
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 11>being in volume radio and the news, you were always

458
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:16.240
<v Speaker 11>involved in politics.

459
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.839
<v Speaker 3>To a greater or lesser extent. And I was interviewing politicians.

460
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 3>You know, I've got you don't list all the people

461
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.240
<v Speaker 3>you interviewed, but you know, I remember one of the

462
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 3>very first days on my job, in my very first

463
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 3>spot as a journalist, I was interviewing Joe Biolki Peterson,

464
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<v Speaker 3>who at the time was the Premier of Queensland. H

465
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<v Speaker 3>I just rang him up at home, as you did

466
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:34.680
<v Speaker 3>back then.

467
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<v Speaker 10>Right, and that was the yeah, is probably on the

468
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<v Speaker 10>internet pages.

469
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<v Speaker 3>Well, well we didn't ever did it pages back then.

470
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<v Speaker 10>But I was pre internet.

471
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<v Speaker 3>Wow, well well before I'm talking nineteen seventy nine. But yeah,

472
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:48.960
<v Speaker 3>I interviewed lots and lots of politicians, so I was

473
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.079
<v Speaker 3>familiar with the environment. And then I went to work

474
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Speaker 3>for a politician later on, or several politicians. I worked for,

475
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:57.920
<v Speaker 3>not only Ian Gilfillan, but I was for a time

476
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:03.559
<v Speaker 3>the media advisor to a liberal environment minister, really David

477
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:08.599
<v Speaker 3>Watton in nineteen ninety seven. And then after I got

478
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:11.079
<v Speaker 3>my law degree, I was a legal advisor to the

479
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:15.719
<v Speaker 3>Labor Attorney General at the time. Michael Atkinson. Wow, that

480
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.320
<v Speaker 3>wasn't a political appointment, that was a public service appointment.

481
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 3>So I was one of.

482
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.079
<v Speaker 10>A team of you in the Department.

483
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Policy and Legislation section in the Attorney General's Department.

484
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<v Speaker 11>And have you always had that focus on the environment,

485
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:33.400
<v Speaker 11>and like what kind of developed that passion for it?

486
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<v Speaker 3>Well, when you, I'm I don't know whether I can

487
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.920
<v Speaker 3>say that I've always had that focus, but it's become

488
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:45.119
<v Speaker 3>grown up. It's grown on me as the most important

489
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.480
<v Speaker 3>thing because you know, we've only got one world. There

490
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:50.039
<v Speaker 3>is no planet B. We're doing a very good job

491
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:54.280
<v Speaker 3>of messing up the planet and it desperately needs protection

492
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:59.480
<v Speaker 3>because so many people have a short term monetary interest

493
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:03.400
<v Speaker 3>in despoiling the planet or a part thereof whether it's

494
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 3>the atmosphere with carbon emissions, or whether it's wanting to

495
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:10.960
<v Speaker 3>build something on what is open green public parkland. Somebody's

496
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 3>got some and where there's a pot of money to

497
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.360
<v Speaker 3>be made. What's the saying you don't stand in between

498
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:19.599
<v Speaker 3>a developer and a pot of money, or maybe it's

499
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:20.679
<v Speaker 3>a politician and a pot.

500
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 10>Of money greenfield.

501
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, so when there's that financial interest. It's very

502
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.320
<v Speaker 3>one sided, you know, the people who are trying to

503
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:37.719
<v Speaker 3>protect something for the public. If you're saying something for

504
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 3>the public interest, by definition, you don't have huge corporate

505
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 3>interests behind you. You've got to raise money through small donations.

506
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:50.519
<v Speaker 3>You've got to continuously hustle, continuously try to get your

507
00:35:50.519 --> 00:35:54.840
<v Speaker 3>point of view or the public interest into people's consciousness.

508
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:57.000
<v Speaker 3>And if you're not spending thousands of dollars or millions

509
00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:59.159
<v Speaker 3>of dollars on an advertising campaign.

510
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:00.000
<v Speaker 10>That's so difficult.

511
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:03.039
<v Speaker 11>I think, Yeah, I really admire everything you've put together

512
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 11>with the Adelaide Parklands Association because it's without that kind

513
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:11.119
<v Speaker 11>of continuous and dogged determination it you just wouldn't get there.

514
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:12.960
<v Speaker 11>And because you don't have that large resources that you

515
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:15.119
<v Speaker 11>do if you're a developer. You know you've done one

516
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:17.239
<v Speaker 11>hundred projects before and so now you can do something

517
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 11>else and you've got all the resources there and all

518
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 11>the staff, all the systems everything, and as a small

519
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.880
<v Speaker 11>community group, you don't have any of that.

520
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:29.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, let's talk about the Adelaid Parklands. I've been the

521
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.639
<v Speaker 3>president since twenty seventeen.

522
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:32.519
<v Speaker 10>Had come into five years.

523
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:34.519
<v Speaker 3>Ah, Well, that goes back to.

524
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:36.159
<v Speaker 10>Ian Gilfillan, right, okay.

525
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:42.559
<v Speaker 3>MLC Democrats. He was when I knew him, No, back

526
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 3>in the twenty years ago or less than that. Actually,

527
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 3>he was the president of what was then called the

528
00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:52.079
<v Speaker 3>Adelaide Parklands Preservation Association, and he was on the committee.

529
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:54.320
<v Speaker 3>And he said, look, i've since I did you such.

530
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 3>He didn't say this, but when he asked me to

531
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:00.199
<v Speaker 3>join the committee, I felt a sense of obligation. You

532
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.719
<v Speaker 3>was this, Oh, that would have been twenty.

533
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:04.440
<v Speaker 10>Fourteen, twenty fourteen, so it was.

534
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 3>A long time after I'd stopped working for him, because

535
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.159
<v Speaker 3>I still working for him about two thousand and one.

536
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:10.360
<v Speaker 10>And he still reckon you owed him?

537
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.559
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, no, He didn't say I owed him.

538
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 10>Oh okay.

539
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

540
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 3>I felt a sense of obligation since he had really

541
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:21.320
<v Speaker 3>really helped me so wonderfully in helping me to get

542
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:21.960
<v Speaker 3>my law degree.

543
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 10>Oh okay.

544
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 3>So when he said, look, would you like to join

545
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:29.679
<v Speaker 3>the parklands committee? I said, okay. I felt I owed

546
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:33.320
<v Speaker 3>him that, and I just joined the committee. And I

547
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:37.320
<v Speaker 3>looked as you do. You know, I was doing the minimum.

548
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.440
<v Speaker 3>I was turning up to a committee meeting once a month,

549
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 3>and you know, putting my two cents worth in that

550
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:44.119
<v Speaker 3>the committee meeting and that was it. And then it

551
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 3>dawned on me in twenty fourteen that this little group

552
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:52.599
<v Speaker 3>of people were trying to influence the outcome for the

553
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Adelaide Parklands and we're not having much success because they

554
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 3>were basically talking amongst themselves. They a great expense printed

555
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:11.159
<v Speaker 3>a glossy quarterly magazine which got posted to their members only,

556
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 3>so it was only the people who were already committed parklands,

557
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 3>and it was totally an echo chamber, and a very

558
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.880
<v Speaker 3>small echo chamber that and I realized that if anything

559
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.519
<v Speaker 3>was going to you know, there's no point doing that.

560
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:27.400
<v Speaker 3>You've got to reach out to a broader audience and

561
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 3>help the broader audience see why the Adelaide parklans well.

562
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:36.880
<v Speaker 3>And this comes back to eventually dawned on me, not

563
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:38.960
<v Speaker 3>the first week or the first month, or even the

564
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.360
<v Speaker 3>first year. It got through to me that the Adelaide

565
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Parklands are world unique, where we are the only city

566
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:50.760
<v Speaker 3>in the world built inside a park. And later on

567
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 3>I discovered, and this is actually a contentious point, that

568
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:58.960
<v Speaker 3>the Adelaide Parklands were the first park created for the

569
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:03.119
<v Speaker 3>purposes of being for the public. Sure as opposed to

570
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:04.360
<v Speaker 3>being for the royalty.

571
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:05.480
<v Speaker 10>It wasn't a military thing.

572
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Ah, the military can we can we come back to that,

573
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:14.360
<v Speaker 3>because that's one of the furfees, common furfees. But there's

574
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 3>parks all over the world, of course, but most of

575
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 3>the old ones we're talking hundreds of years ago were

576
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.679
<v Speaker 3>created for royalty, nobility, lords of the manor you know.

577
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:29.000
<v Speaker 3>The phrase crown land implies that the crown can enter

578
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 3>and common people can come in only if the crown

579
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.199
<v Speaker 3>says yes, you can come in. Today, the Adelaide parklands,

580
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.280
<v Speaker 3>and this coincides with the creation of municipal authorities the

581
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:42.920
<v Speaker 3>city of Adelaide, so they created for the public. So

582
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:46.159
<v Speaker 3>there's an argument, and it's it's it's really splitting hairs

583
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 3>whether this is the case or not. But I'd like

584
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 3>to use this argument that were the first parks created

585
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 3>for the public preceded the creation of Central Park, New

586
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:01.280
<v Speaker 3>York by eighteen fascinating by eighteen years yeah and then.

587
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:04.000
<v Speaker 10>Sorry, say that again, So it preceded the question.

588
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Of eighteen thirty seven. And of course we're totally glossing

589
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.719
<v Speaker 3>over the dispossession of the Garner people. And I don't

590
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 3>want to do that because of course it was a

591
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 3>public park for the Garner people four thousands and thousands

592
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.719
<v Speaker 3>of years. But if we just focus on from eighteen

593
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:19.320
<v Speaker 3>thirty seven European settlement and that was when the past,

594
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:19.599
<v Speaker 3>so that.

595
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<v Speaker 11>Was straight away, that was when the city was designed.

596
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.880
<v Speaker 11>Those parklands were part of immediate Yep.

597
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:28.639
<v Speaker 3>Colonel Light did the famous survey to you know, and

598
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:33.039
<v Speaker 3>there's a lovely illustration of his that he drew up

599
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:34.920
<v Speaker 3>in eighteen thirty seven. I think this is the town

600
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.639
<v Speaker 3>square and we've got North Terrace, South Terrace, East Terrace,

601
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:43.079
<v Speaker 3>West Terrace. Outside the terraces there's parklands and that was

602
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.360
<v Speaker 3>the first place in the world where that had.

603
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.199
<v Speaker 10>Actually been the floor in the middle as well.

604
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:47.320
<v Speaker 6>That.

605
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh and the squares of course.

606
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:50.320
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and then the ones around the middle, which was.

607
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.159
<v Speaker 3>Five squares in the CBD and one square in North Adelaide.

608
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<v Speaker 11>So we've got you might not answer, sorry if there

609
00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 11>is one, but it just occurred to me, is there

610
00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:02.519
<v Speaker 11>a you know, symbolism between the kind of looks like

611
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:03.920
<v Speaker 11>a dice really the.

612
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Five dots on a dice.

613
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Yea.

614
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 3>There there are other cities in the world where that

615
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:13.199
<v Speaker 3>sort of thing, the layout with the with the squares

616
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.119
<v Speaker 3>inside the grid that's been done. There's a there's a

617
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:17.760
<v Speaker 3>book that I've got at home, of course, you know,

618
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Donald Johnson is the author, and it is I can't

619
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:29.440
<v Speaker 3>remember the actual title of the book, Predicting Municipal Parks

620
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:33.039
<v Speaker 3>or something, and he goes through the history of what

621
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 3>cities looked a little bit like Adelaide in the past,

622
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 3>were laid out in a similar way to Adelaide, but

623
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 3>none of them had the the parks all around them.

624
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.480
<v Speaker 3>There's a few other cities in the world that have

625
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 3>some aspects of that. Christ Church in New Zealand has

626
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 3>got parks on three sides and the ocean on the

627
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 3>fourth side.

628
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:54.280
<v Speaker 11>Yeah. I grew up in Canberra and a Canberra is

629
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:58.719
<v Speaker 11>basically parks with houses in it. And they were just

630
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 11>they were everywhere, and I just beautiful sit Yeah, it

631
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:03.800
<v Speaker 11>is beautiful and you could you could drive, like you

632
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:06.239
<v Speaker 11>could get on the bike path from my house, get

633
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 11>all the way to Parliament House on a private.

634
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:11.719
<v Speaker 10>Bike path. And I used to be a roller, so

635
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:13.599
<v Speaker 10>I'd rode through and then we'd have like.

636
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 3>The private bike path.

637
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<v Speaker 11>Well sorry, public public park, not next to the road

638
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 11>for out, That's what I came mean. So it's completely

639
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.239
<v Speaker 11>separated off and it was really thought through at that

640
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 11>next level of you know, watching an ideal city look like,

641
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:29.360
<v Speaker 11>and that of course was designed by Burley Griffin, and

642
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:31.719
<v Speaker 11>that I think when you have that kind of plan,

643
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:35.920
<v Speaker 11>that vision, that's so amazing. And since the camera bushfires,

644
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 11>that has also now been encroached on that vision, So

645
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 11>that public thoroughfare through the bike paths and the bike

646
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 11>lanes is now being encroached on with suburban suburbs that

647
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.079
<v Speaker 11>are just coming out of nowhere. So they're now building

648
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.239
<v Speaker 11>on all of these these parks.

649
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 10>And losing all sounds a bit familiar because.

650
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:56.239
<v Speaker 3>In Adelaide we've been encroaching on the park lands ever

651
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.239
<v Speaker 3>since they were created in eineteen thirty seven.

652
00:42:58.519 --> 00:42:59.360
<v Speaker 10>What do you think that is?

653
00:42:59.440 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 8>What?

654
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:03.039
<v Speaker 10>Because it baffles me, you know, I don't get it.

655
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, it upsets me, but it doesn't baffle me

656
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:11.320
<v Speaker 3>because every single state government from eighteen thirty seven on,

657
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 3>well before they were called states, provincial government sees the

658
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 3>parklands as vacant land waiting to be developed, not all

659
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.760
<v Speaker 3>the content time, of course, and not at every spot,

660
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:25.119
<v Speaker 3>but chipping away, chipping away, chipping away, and every time

661
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.920
<v Speaker 3>something's put on the park lands. It's for very good reasons,

662
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:29.440
<v Speaker 3>of course.

663
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.840
<v Speaker 10>I love you're reminded me of that the YouTube sort.

664
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 3>There's a video that we produced, an animated video called

665
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Egypt is Selling the Pyramids brick by brick that and

666
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, why would you get rid of something that

667
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.639
<v Speaker 3>makes a place unique. But we're doing that. We've got

668
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:47.599
<v Speaker 3>the only city in the world built inside of park

669
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:49.920
<v Speaker 3>and we're getting rid of that park bit by bit

670
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 3>by bit.

671
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:55.599
<v Speaker 11>I think it's always there's always a pressure politicians. I

672
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.800
<v Speaker 11>believe in our system, I believe need to generate political

673
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 11>doing things, and I think very rarely, probably more and

674
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:07.559
<v Speaker 11>more so now given the last federal and state elections

675
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:10.800
<v Speaker 11>that by I suppose not doing something and actually keeping

676
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.119
<v Speaker 11>something as it was, you're actually going to get credit

677
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.119
<v Speaker 11>for that. Like of a state government, you know that

678
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:19.280
<v Speaker 11>was their policy. We've done nothing, yes, to develop the

679
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:21.960
<v Speaker 11>parklands like that would be actually quite a statement that

680
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 11>I think would resonate.

681
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:26.159
<v Speaker 3>In fact, well, there are lots of being missed, but

682
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:28.800
<v Speaker 3>you can do lots of things within the parklands without

683
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:33.840
<v Speaker 3>robbing future generations. And look, a great example is the

684
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:36.519
<v Speaker 3>new Wetlands has been constructed just in the last twelve months.

685
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:37.039
<v Speaker 10>It's amazing.

686
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.960
<v Speaker 3>In Victoria Park Pakaba Kanti in the Ghana language. Now,

687
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:45.039
<v Speaker 3>that was a thirteen million dollar project. They had to

688
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.719
<v Speaker 3>remove a stand of white poplar trees invasive species. No

689
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.400
<v Speaker 3>big deal there. But what they've created is something beautiful

690
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:57.480
<v Speaker 3>and it's open, green, public and it cost only a

691
00:44:57.519 --> 00:45:01.360
<v Speaker 3>fraction of what a huge infrastry ructure project would have gone.

692
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:04.960
<v Speaker 3>The former Liberal state government was wanting to build in

693
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Helen Mayo Park what they call the River Bank Arena,

694
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.199
<v Speaker 3>a massive stadium, fifteen thousand seed stadium. It was going

695
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:14.679
<v Speaker 3>to cost in the order of six hundred million dollars

696
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:21.199
<v Speaker 3>six hundred million dollars to destroy a park versus thirteen

697
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.320
<v Speaker 3>million to create a beautiful wetland.

698
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 10>And I went there the other day.

699
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:27.519
<v Speaker 11>I went for a walk around at and then it's

700
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:32.320
<v Speaker 11>not even developed yet. It's still just a rudimentary state.

701
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:33.679
<v Speaker 11>But it looks amazing and.

702
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 3>There's going to be some Garner Garner inspired artwork installed

703
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:44.000
<v Speaker 3>there to increase the experience. But there's also infrastructure that

704
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:48.239
<v Speaker 3>can be done which does not let me come back

705
00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:50.519
<v Speaker 3>to One of the things that the Adelaid Parkland's Association

706
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:54.039
<v Speaker 3>insists upon is that the standard for what should be

707
00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 3>in a park. And this may be blindingly obvious, but

708
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 3>until you say it, people have funny ideas of what

709
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:05.679
<v Speaker 3>should be in parks open, green, public. Now we like

710
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:08.480
<v Speaker 3>to portray that as three circles in a ven diagram.

711
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:10.599
<v Speaker 3>You can have open, you can have green, you can

712
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:15.519
<v Speaker 3>have public when the three interlock. That's the essence of

713
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.840
<v Speaker 3>what a park is. Sure, you can have things that

714
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.480
<v Speaker 3>are open and green but not public. You can have

715
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.119
<v Speaker 3>things that are open and public but not green, and

716
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:27.079
<v Speaker 3>so on. So open, green, public, and that's what we've

717
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:32.159
<v Speaker 3>got with the new wetlands in Victoria Park. The other

718
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.519
<v Speaker 3>thing that I think that we keep pushing really hard

719
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:39.639
<v Speaker 3>is something to help people appreciate the fact that it's

720
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:44.119
<v Speaker 3>not just one park here, one park there, and that

721
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:47.280
<v Speaker 3>it's a whole. The whole is much greater than the

722
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 3>sum of its parts.

723
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 11>I think that's totally true, because when I'm going through

724
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:54.039
<v Speaker 11>the parklands, it does feel disconnected, and that's obviously because

725
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:58.800
<v Speaker 11>it is, yes, and you don't think you generally think

726
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 11>about the botanical gardens and maybe where the pedal pre

727
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:05.320
<v Speaker 11>is and I run through the parklands, but that whole

728
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:10.079
<v Speaker 11>western side is completely devoid of attention from me.

729
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.679
<v Speaker 10>Anyways, as an individual, you haven't been to.

730
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:14.599
<v Speaker 3>The we're in in the Wetlands in park twenty three,

731
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:16.519
<v Speaker 3>No haven't, no won? You should come along to our

732
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.360
<v Speaker 3>guided walk on twenty eight in the in the Wetlands

733
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:21.559
<v Speaker 3>because it's absolutely spectacular and how.

734
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:23.159
<v Speaker 10>Many guarded walks. So that's another thing we do.

735
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 11>So let's talk about how the campaign for the parklands

736
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:29.760
<v Speaker 11>and how you achieve that, because I think this would

737
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.320
<v Speaker 11>be very helpful for this is I think what you're

738
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:35.800
<v Speaker 11>doing with the with APPA is amazing as almost like

739
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.559
<v Speaker 11>a template for other community groups that might advocate for something.

740
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 10>So what are the some of the things.

741
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.199
<v Speaker 3>So you have the we have four streams of activity,

742
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:48.639
<v Speaker 3>and we've got a strategic plan which prioritizes each one

743
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 3>of these four streams. They're quite distinct, but they're complementary.

744
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.400
<v Speaker 3>People will want to protect the parklands only if they

745
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 3>know what's in them. Our four streams of activity are

746
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 3>pay attention, explore, inspirect, restore, and they're in that order

747
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.760
<v Speaker 3>because first you have to explore before you will be inspired.

748
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.519
<v Speaker 3>If you're inspired, you will want to protect. Once you

749
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:16.920
<v Speaker 3>know that how important it is to protect, you'll want

750
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:23.159
<v Speaker 3>to restore, so it works in that order. Explore, inspire, protect, restore.

751
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:26.480
<v Speaker 3>So the first thing that gets people interested in the parklands.

752
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:29.039
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it doesn't always have to be this way, of course,

753
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:32.920
<v Speaker 3>but explore. So we offer guided walks roughly one every

754
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:35.199
<v Speaker 3>two weeks in the good months. It could be in

755
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:38.239
<v Speaker 3>the good weather, we might be doing them every week.

756
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:42.480
<v Speaker 3>We've just been planning next year's calendar and we've got

757
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.320
<v Speaker 3>thirty two events over the course of twenty twenty three

758
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:47.960
<v Speaker 3>already being planned in the pipeline. But every couple of

759
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.119
<v Speaker 3>weeks at the latest we'll be having a different guided

760
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 3>walk in a different part of the parklands, and hopeful

761
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:55.719
<v Speaker 3>and people will come. If you're an Apple member, you

762
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:57.400
<v Speaker 3>get a ticket for free. If you're not a member,

763
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 3>it's a fairly low cost day out, afternoon out, and

764
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 3>you'll get the history, the explanation why this bits of

765
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.559
<v Speaker 3>parkland is treated this way, what it used to be

766
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:12.480
<v Speaker 3>like in the past, what's going to be happening in

767
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:14.880
<v Speaker 3>the spot in the future, and if it's very well,

768
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:16.960
<v Speaker 3>all very well telling people about it. But until you're

769
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:21.960
<v Speaker 3>standing in let's say, for example, a stand of one

770
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.000
<v Speaker 3>hundred year old blue gums and looking up into the canopy.

771
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:26.440
<v Speaker 10>I appreciate it.

772
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:30.559
<v Speaker 3>Hopefully seeing you know a rosella or you know a

773
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 3>rainbow lorocket or something above your head. You know, you

774
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:39.840
<v Speaker 3>don't really appreciate the significance, yeah, of where you are standing, absolutely,

775
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.760
<v Speaker 3>and the fact that these trees were planted by you know,

776
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.199
<v Speaker 3>the city gardener in nineteen oh seven or whatever, and

777
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:48.280
<v Speaker 3>they're still there and they're still being looked after, and

778
00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:51.079
<v Speaker 3>then you will think, well, wouldn't this be worth protecting?

779
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 10>Right?

780
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.920
<v Speaker 11>So you do the guided walks as that's explore as explored,

781
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 11>and then and.

782
00:49:56.840 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 3>The trail guides so that you can do the guide

783
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 3>to walk at any time when you we want to.

784
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 3>We're all on our website, so we've got that. That's resource.

785
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:05.840
<v Speaker 10>That's handy.

786
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, I would love to

787
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:09.840
<v Speaker 11>do them all. Do you get something when you complete them?

788
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:11.519
<v Speaker 11>Do you get like a sticker.

789
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Or we'll give you a leaflet when you come along

790
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:15.800
<v Speaker 3>on the guided wall, yeah, which and that will have

791
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 3>a QR code to link back to the full trail guide.

792
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 3>So the leaflet's a bit of a souvenir if you

793
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:21.360
<v Speaker 3>come on the gold.

794
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:22.679
<v Speaker 10>I feel like we had a T shirt.

795
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.360
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, you know like I've done every guide of Walk

796
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:26.960
<v Speaker 11>or I've been everywhere man.

797
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:28.920
<v Speaker 10>Or something that's a good idea. Yeah, I mean I

798
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:29.960
<v Speaker 10>have to buy the T shirt.

799
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:34.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so let's explore Inspire.

800
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:35.159
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

801
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.440
<v Speaker 3>The main thing that we're doing with Inspire is the

802
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Adelaide park Lands Art Prize. Yes, every two years, and

803
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:43.280
<v Speaker 3>that's getting bigger and bigger. We ran it in twenty fourteen,

804
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:47.280
<v Speaker 3>twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen, COVID hit the twenty twenty version,

805
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:49.320
<v Speaker 3>so it wasn't finished till twenty twenty one. But we're

806
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:52.639
<v Speaker 3>doing it again in twenty twenty three with a fifty

807
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.079
<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars prize pool.

808
00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:57.079
<v Speaker 11>And I believe that makes it Adelaide's or South Australia's

809
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.960
<v Speaker 11>third largest art prize, equal second, equal second with who,

810
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:03.360
<v Speaker 11>now don't quote who's this.

811
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.800
<v Speaker 3>There's the wars that the Waterhouse, the water Prize. First,

812
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:10.360
<v Speaker 3>there's one prize it's way out the front with one

813
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand dollars, and then there's the Adelaide Parklands Our

814
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Prize and one other that are on fifty thousand dollars.

815
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:20.679
<v Speaker 3>Forget whether the Waterhouse is one hundred or fifty anyway.

816
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.000
<v Speaker 10>Yep, well, I think it's one hundred. Yeah, I think

817
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:24.239
<v Speaker 10>the White House is a hundred so.

818
00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:26.079
<v Speaker 11>And that was done by trust and so I think

819
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:29.159
<v Speaker 11>this is so. How many entries would you get for

820
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:30.239
<v Speaker 11>the art prize.

821
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:34.679
<v Speaker 3>Well, we haven't got any yet, but last time around

822
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:36.119
<v Speaker 3>we had I think it was about three hundred and

823
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 3>fifty three hundred and sixty entries and finalists get whittled

824
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.239
<v Speaker 3>down to a round about seventy odd because that's how

825
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:49.159
<v Speaker 3>many will fit in the display the display space at

826
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:53.159
<v Speaker 3>the Festival Center. So something similar will be happening in

827
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:57.519
<v Speaker 3>early twenty twenty three. Entries will be closed. Entries are

828
00:51:57.519 --> 00:51:59.360
<v Speaker 3>open on the fifteenth of August and closed on the

829
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.400
<v Speaker 3>end of January, worry. So we're hoping we'll get hundreds

830
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:05.079
<v Speaker 3>of entries whittle down to seventy odd that will be

831
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 3>on display in the Festival Center from I think it's

832
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:11.559
<v Speaker 3>the near the end of March, March eighteen nineteen about

833
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:11.880
<v Speaker 3>that time.

834
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:13.280
<v Speaker 11>So what I'll do is I'll do a little bit

835
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.360
<v Speaker 11>of a I'll get a Natalia on who's the yes

836
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 11>convener of it, and I think we'll do a little

837
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:20.559
<v Speaker 11>bit of a fifteen minute chat about what the our

838
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 11>praise is and what the different options are. But coming

839
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:25.559
<v Speaker 11>back to it, so the outcome of the like so

840
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:29.159
<v Speaker 11>it's to inspire. So the idea is that artists will

841
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:33.320
<v Speaker 11>submit works internationally from around the world and then showcasing

842
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 11>the parklands and its beauty and the idea is to

843
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.000
<v Speaker 11>inspire people to love the parklands.

844
00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:44.679
<v Speaker 3>Well, the word inspire is deliberately ambiguous because the artists

845
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 3>will be inspired by the party.

846
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:48.000
<v Speaker 10>I think your inspire.

847
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:53.760
<v Speaker 3>The artists will I will be inspired by the parklands,

848
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.719
<v Speaker 3>but their artworks will inspire others to love the parkland.

849
00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:58.239
<v Speaker 3>So the inspire word.

850
00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:01.679
<v Speaker 10>There does it comes both both both ends.

851
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:05.119
<v Speaker 3>And then the other thing that is part of our

852
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:07.119
<v Speaker 3>strategic plan is protect.

853
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 11>Right and so there's income that comes from the so

854
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:13.039
<v Speaker 11>you generate and that helps to fund some of the protecting.

855
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.840
<v Speaker 3>As the income for the Adelaide Parklands Association, where we're

856
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:18.840
<v Speaker 3>a small community group, we don't have a huge income

857
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:23.679
<v Speaker 3>by any means, it comes partly from membership fees. We've

858
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:26.320
<v Speaker 3>got fairly low cost membership.

859
00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:27.559
<v Speaker 10>How many members would you have.

860
00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 3>As of today, it's around about four hundred and twelve.

861
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:33.360
<v Speaker 3>But you know, then you know you renew for a

862
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:37.000
<v Speaker 3>year and you know people, more people join, others drop off,

863
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:42.840
<v Speaker 3>so well over four hundred so membership fees. We get

864
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:45.480
<v Speaker 3>a dividend from a Parkland's Art Prize. We raise a

865
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:49.400
<v Speaker 3>little bit of money from the tickets to the guided walks, sure,

866
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.079
<v Speaker 3>and some donations and of course.

867
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:55.559
<v Speaker 10>The unpaving Paradise concept. That's what that we did for.

868
00:53:56.000 --> 00:54:01.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we did a gig Diverse City in early June

869
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:03.880
<v Speaker 3>which raised That was a great night. I love that.

870
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:07.199
<v Speaker 3>We hopefully do that again next year. That raised a

871
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:11.719
<v Speaker 3>little bit of money for Restore, which is the fourth

872
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:17.079
<v Speaker 3>part of our strategic plan Explore, Explore, Inspire, Protect Restore.

873
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 3>Restore is something we're only new at. We haven't done

874
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.639
<v Speaker 3>this a lot before in the past. We have got

875
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:27.840
<v Speaker 3>approval from the city Council to restore a little bit

876
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:31.239
<v Speaker 3>of Bitchmen in benythen park off Port Road near the

877
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Thurberton tram stop, and that will. Yeah, if we do

878
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:39.440
<v Speaker 3>a good job with that, they might let us restore

879
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:42.000
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more bitchmen somewhere else in the parklands. Sure,

880
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:44.440
<v Speaker 3>it's a pilot project.

881
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:46.920
<v Speaker 10>The government chips away, you can chip away the bitchmen.

882
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Well exactly. We don't always have to be on the defensive.

883
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:51.119
<v Speaker 11>Can I can I tell you a little bit of

884
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.800
<v Speaker 11>a story when I was younger as well, Right, I

885
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.760
<v Speaker 11>used to go to Tolopia, which are school and we

886
00:54:56.840 --> 00:54:59.920
<v Speaker 11>just have bitchmin warts. So we would dig up the

887
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:03.719
<v Speaker 11>bitchamen and use it as currency.

888
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:04.639
<v Speaker 9>We would dig up.

889
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:06.039
<v Speaker 10>The netball courts or whatever it was.

890
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:08.239
<v Speaker 11>So you know, I'm going to claim that as my

891
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:13.039
<v Speaker 11>young environmentalist, digging up bitchamen and restoring it to open space,

892
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.119
<v Speaker 11>much of the annoyance of the teachers.

893
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:18.639
<v Speaker 3>Well that that particular bit of bitchmen that I referenced

894
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:21.800
<v Speaker 3>in Beneathen Park used to be netball courts right back

895
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:23.840
<v Speaker 3>in the nineteen nineties, but they haven't been used in

896
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:29.320
<v Speaker 3>network courts for decades. Sure, So that's our well, and

897
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:31.079
<v Speaker 3>that's the only part of what we do for restore.

898
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:33.440
<v Speaker 3>We also want to be in Quadic Center clean up

899
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:36.000
<v Speaker 3>days ah, the Aquatic Center.

900
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.039
<v Speaker 10>So that's a good opportunity to restore some parklands.

901
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's it's too it's both protect and restore, yes,

902
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:47.239
<v Speaker 3>because the state government, and we talked earlier about the

903
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:49.039
<v Speaker 3>fact that governments for years and years and years have

904
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.440
<v Speaker 3>been chipping away, chipping away, chipping away at parklands. And

905
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.079
<v Speaker 3>you've got to remember that at the moment there are

906
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:56.840
<v Speaker 3>at least four sites on the parklands that are under

907
00:55:56.880 --> 00:56:00.719
<v Speaker 3>threat from state government projects. You've got a proposal for

908
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:04.480
<v Speaker 3>a new eight story addition to the Botannic High School,

909
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:08.599
<v Speaker 3>which will take away from park in Park eleven off

910
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Frome Road. You've got the proposal for a new women's

911
00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:15.639
<v Speaker 3>and children's hospital which will destroy a garden in Park

912
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:18.480
<v Speaker 3>twenty seven next to the Royal Atheltte Hospital. You've got

913
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:21.559
<v Speaker 3>a proposal from a multi story car park across the

914
00:56:21.639 --> 00:56:24.559
<v Speaker 3>railway line in Kate Cox Park, part of Park twenty seven.

915
00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:28.559
<v Speaker 3>And you also have a proposal to build a new

916
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:34.039
<v Speaker 3>aquatic center on Denise Norton Park Party part in Nilla

917
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Park two. So coming back to that one, the fourth

918
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:41.280
<v Speaker 3>the aquatic center, and this is both protect and restore.

919
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:43.519
<v Speaker 3>A lot of people have said to me, why don't

920
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.559
<v Speaker 3>we just renovate the current aquatic center, because you know

921
00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:50.400
<v Speaker 3>it needs renovation. Now, I'm hardly an engineering expert. The

922
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 3>last thing I would claim to build times.

923
00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:54.920
<v Speaker 6>Well.

924
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Indeed, and the city council a couple of years ago

925
00:56:57.400 --> 00:56:59.400
<v Speaker 3>got a report from an engineer saying it isn't really

926
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:02.360
<v Speaker 3>worth it has reached the end of its useful life

927
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:04.360
<v Speaker 3>and needs to be replaced.

928
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:08.360
<v Speaker 11>And of course that's very different from normal. So like

929
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:12.559
<v Speaker 11>it was privately owned, it's a publicly owned facility. Well,

930
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:14.159
<v Speaker 11>it just saw life is actually a lot shorter because

931
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:16.119
<v Speaker 11>they have to comply with all the standards and have

932
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:16.880
<v Speaker 11>a much high rating.

933
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:22.519
<v Speaker 3>So the council has been postponing a decision on this

934
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.920
<v Speaker 3>because it's a very difficult decision. But during the election campaign,

935
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:29.679
<v Speaker 3>the then Labor opposition promise they if elected, they would

936
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:33.239
<v Speaker 3>build a new aquatic center and the state government would

937
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:35.920
<v Speaker 3>run it, not the city council. Really, that was the

938
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:39.000
<v Speaker 3>promise made by Peter Malinowskis during the election campaign, and

939
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:41.440
<v Speaker 3>he said he would build the Labor government would build

940
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:44.199
<v Speaker 3>it either on the existing site or and this is

941
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:47.039
<v Speaker 3>the words used at the time, or an adjacent site.

942
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:51.519
<v Speaker 3>Adjacent was not defined. So they've been elected and their

943
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:54.679
<v Speaker 3>proposal since well just in the last couple of months

944
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:58.760
<v Speaker 3>July twenty twenty two, is that they are only going

945
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:05.679
<v Speaker 3>to be looking at sites within the same park. Well,

946
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.880
<v Speaker 3>we're very very happy that the current side of the

947
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:14.840
<v Speaker 3>aquatic center is going to be returned to parklands. If

948
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.280
<v Speaker 3>you think of the park on which the aquatic center

949
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:22.519
<v Speaker 3>is located on Robe Terrace, Jeffcott Road, Barton Terrace West

950
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:26.480
<v Speaker 3>and Prospect Road. That's basically a rectangular area and the

951
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:30.079
<v Speaker 3>aquatic center takes up the northwestern corner. That's going to

952
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:34.679
<v Speaker 3>be returned to Parklands. That's fantastic, that's restore and that's

953
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:37.880
<v Speaker 3>one of the things we are really really happy about

954
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:41.639
<v Speaker 3>restoring that area of Parklands. But then the other sites

955
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:44.519
<v Speaker 3>of the state government is considering all on the same park.

956
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:48.920
<v Speaker 3>We're saying, why not put it somewhere else, why not

957
00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:53.639
<v Speaker 3>put it on a brownfield site, closer to public transport,

958
00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:58.039
<v Speaker 3>somewhere that's convenient for people, not just in the city

959
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:00.800
<v Speaker 3>of Adelaide, but for any of the suburbs around about.

960
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:03.760
<v Speaker 3>We've got the State Swim Center down at Marion, so

961
00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:05.639
<v Speaker 3>something that would be more convenient for people in the

962
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:10.360
<v Speaker 3>northern suburbs. So we conducted our own research asking people

963
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:12.719
<v Speaker 3>where would you prefer to see it? And we got

964
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.679
<v Speaker 3>six or seven hundred responses to our survey, and by

965
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:20.800
<v Speaker 3>far the most popular area was around heind Marsh, Theberton Bowden, Brompton.

966
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:23.960
<v Speaker 10>There are plenty of so much space in Boden Fredrico plenty.

967
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Of brown field sites that could be acquired by the

968
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:27.880
<v Speaker 3>state government for an aquatic center.

969
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:30.960
<v Speaker 10>I think sech government seem very reluctant to acquire property.

970
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:33.840
<v Speaker 3>So you do it all the time. For road widening, yeah.

971
00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:34.960
<v Speaker 10>They do it very south road.

972
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:40.480
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, that's that freeway has been that they're doing massive

973
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:45.519
<v Speaker 11>acquisitions there which are actually unnecessary. Speaking to an engineer

974
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:47.239
<v Speaker 11>about it, and a lot of it's actually unnecessary and

975
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:49.480
<v Speaker 11>they're spanning way beyond what they need to because actually

976
00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:51.480
<v Speaker 11>don't know where the tunnel's going to go. But see,

977
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:53.920
<v Speaker 11>something I do like about Camber is you don't own

978
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:55.519
<v Speaker 11>the land. You only have a ninety nine year lease.

979
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:58.079
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Canberra's unusual in that respect.

980
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.400
<v Speaker 11>And so it's implied that at some stage the government

981
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:04.000
<v Speaker 11>might take that back and provide infrastructure. But something that

982
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.960
<v Speaker 11>I see that Adelaide doesn't necessarily had an Actually Rex

983
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:09.519
<v Speaker 11>Patrick made this point recently is we don't have a

984
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:12.480
<v Speaker 11>ten or twenty year plan for the infrastructure that we

985
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:14.400
<v Speaker 11>need for the city. So how many people are going

986
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:17.000
<v Speaker 11>to have living there and what do they need? And

987
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:19.559
<v Speaker 11>to me it seems like, oh, well, populations increasing, they

988
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:20.440
<v Speaker 11>need a new stadium.

989
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.000
<v Speaker 10>So let's just check it here.

990
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:25.519
<v Speaker 11>But the converse point is, well, they actually need more

991
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:29.159
<v Speaker 11>open space and they need more parklands at the same

992
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:32.039
<v Speaker 11>time as population goes up. So there doesn't seem to

993
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 11>me from what I can see, a long term vision

994
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:35.760
<v Speaker 11>on that, and I think that would really help, and

995
01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:38.079
<v Speaker 11>a master plan for the parklands would be something I think.

996
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, the irony is that there is a master plan

997
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:43.559
<v Speaker 3>for the park Well, it's part of the statute law.

998
01:00:43.639 --> 01:00:47.840
<v Speaker 3>The Adelaide Parklands Act requires the City Council and the

999
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:52.320
<v Speaker 3>State Government to agree on Adelaide Parklands management strategy, and

1000
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:54.440
<v Speaker 3>they've done that. It's just that the State government pays

1001
01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:56.880
<v Speaker 3>no attention to it. Sure, no part of.

1002
01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:59.239
<v Speaker 10>The Adelaide Park Act do what's the point of the act?

1003
01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:03.199
<v Speaker 3>The Adelaide Park Act is pretty useless when it comes

1004
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:08.760
<v Speaker 3>to protecting the parklands. It sets up an Adelaide Parklands Authority, which,

1005
01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:12.239
<v Speaker 3>despite its name, is an authority that has no authority.

1006
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:15.760
<v Speaker 3>It is a body that merely advises. It advises the

1007
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.880
<v Speaker 3>City Council, it advises the State government, but neither the

1008
01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:21.719
<v Speaker 3>State government nor the City Council is obliged to do

1009
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:23.679
<v Speaker 3>what the Parklands Authority recommends.

1010
01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:26.119
<v Speaker 11>So how would you change that, what would be your

1011
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:30.079
<v Speaker 11>how could you ameliorate that situation to give them a

1012
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:30.639
<v Speaker 11>bit more teeth.

1013
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'd love to see a really wide ranging discussion

1014
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:38.039
<v Speaker 3>with the community about how best to ensure that the

1015
01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:41.880
<v Speaker 3>parklands that remain don't get further chipped away in the future.

1016
01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:46.480
<v Speaker 3>There is a whole range of possible governance models, and

1017
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:49.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm not necessarily recommending this, but there is because I

1018
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.199
<v Speaker 3>really don't know enough about it. But in Central Park,

1019
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:55.880
<v Speaker 3>New York, there is a Central Park Conservancy and I

1020
01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:58.519
<v Speaker 3>don't know how that is managed, but they've managed to

1021
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:01.880
<v Speaker 3>make sure that Central Parks stays park absolutely. You know,

1022
01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:05.320
<v Speaker 3>there's there's there's no multi story schools put in there. Yeah,

1023
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:08.679
<v Speaker 3>there's no getting expanded, Yes, no hospitals put in there,

1024
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:11.280
<v Speaker 3>there's no car parks put in there. It stays as

1025
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:14.039
<v Speaker 3>a park. So I would suggest that whatever they've got

1026
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:17.119
<v Speaker 3>there to manage Central Park is something that would you know,

1027
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:20.239
<v Speaker 3>we might be able to just take that model and

1028
01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:22.039
<v Speaker 3>use it here, or there may be some reason why

1029
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.000
<v Speaker 3>we can't take that model. I don't know, but there's

1030
01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:26.880
<v Speaker 3>got to be better models for making sure that the

1031
01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Adelaide park lands that remain emphasize remain because we keep

1032
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:33.480
<v Speaker 3>losing them day by day by day, well, year by

1033
01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:37.199
<v Speaker 3>year by year. Are still there in ten years, twenty years,

1034
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:39.480
<v Speaker 3>thirty years, and are not chipped away, chipped away, chipped

1035
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:41.920
<v Speaker 3>away as we are still in the process of doing.

1036
01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:45.039
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and I think there's so much there's a lot

1037
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:50.000
<v Speaker 11>of because we don't we don't have that long term

1038
01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:53.440
<v Speaker 11>vision that I've seen anyway about and that work done

1039
01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:55.440
<v Speaker 11>to say, well, you know what, we could create the

1040
01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:58.960
<v Speaker 11>most incredible parklands or gardens in the world. So with

1041
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:01.960
<v Speaker 11>Central Park, I've never been to New York, but my

1042
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:05.119
<v Speaker 11>impression of it is it's the best park in the world.

1043
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:07.840
<v Speaker 11>And there's so many movies and things shot there as well. Right,

1044
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:09.320
<v Speaker 11>it's an absolute showcase.

1045
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:12.840
<v Speaker 3>For New Yorkers would be outraged if their park got

1046
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:15.800
<v Speaker 3>treated the way the Adelaide park lands get treated chipped.

1047
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:19.199
<v Speaker 11>Away all the time, And I think we should, yeah,

1048
01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:22.280
<v Speaker 11>if we actually had that vision, you know, and it's

1049
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:25.239
<v Speaker 11>things like putting in the wetlands, or expanding the botanical gardens,

1050
01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:28.960
<v Speaker 11>or creating what could be the most incredible piece of

1051
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:31.639
<v Speaker 11>open space there is in the world, and that becomes

1052
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:33.639
<v Speaker 11>an attraction. You have to invest in that over time.

1053
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:38.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're not valued in and of themselves by people

1054
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:41.000
<v Speaker 3>in power. I'd liked to come back to something that

1055
01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:45.679
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned earlier, which is infrastructure, a particular type of

1056
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:50.519
<v Speaker 3>infrastructure that we've been promoting. But it isn't our idea.

1057
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:58.239
<v Speaker 3>And strangely this has the support of Business Essay, Australian

1058
01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Hotels Association, the Committee for Adelaide, It's got a support

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<v Speaker 3>across the board. So let me just explain. It's called

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<v Speaker 3>the Adelaide Recreation Circuit and this is the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>one man who's been pushing this for the last few years,

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01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.559
<v Speaker 3>beating his head against a wall. It's really very simple.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just the idea of linking each park with either

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01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:22.159
<v Speaker 3>a tunnel or a bridge under or over every road

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01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:25.440
<v Speaker 3>that separates parks. You know, like if you want to

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01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:29.039
<v Speaker 3>go from Rhymal Park to King Rodney Park just to

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01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:31.360
<v Speaker 3>its south into Victoria Park just to its south, you've

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01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:34.280
<v Speaker 3>got to go across Bartell's Road and Wakefield Road. If

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01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:37.719
<v Speaker 3>there was a bridge or a tunnel that could take

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01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:42.199
<v Speaker 3>you through, then you would. We could. We should have

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01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:46.159
<v Speaker 3>a circuit right around the city and or the North

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01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:49.800
<v Speaker 3>Adelaide parks as well. And Jason Redman's idea is that

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01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:53.159
<v Speaker 3>this should be illuminated so that it's safe and open

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01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:57.079
<v Speaker 3>twenty four hours a day for Yeah, and it would be.

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01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:00.239
<v Speaker 3>And this idea has got support from walking essay from

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01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:04.400
<v Speaker 3>the road Runners Club, from athletics, from bicycle essay from

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01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:08.760
<v Speaker 3>the Bicycle from Bike Adelaide. People would come from all

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01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:12.559
<v Speaker 3>over the world to participate in events in the only

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01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:16.559
<v Speaker 3>city in the world encircled by parklands where you can

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01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.239
<v Speaker 3>where you can ride or run or walk around the entirety,

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01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:22.199
<v Speaker 3>never leaving parklands.

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<v Speaker 11>It's so necessary because I run in the mornings and

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01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:30.599
<v Speaker 11>run through through the South Parklands and crossing the roads

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01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:35.360
<v Speaker 11>is really disturbing and it's dangerous because you're crossing like six,

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01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:38.320
<v Speaker 11>you know, six or five different lanes of traffic and

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01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:39.760
<v Speaker 11>there's lights going and everything.

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01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:41.159
<v Speaker 3>Just to get from one park to the other, let

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01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:42.760
<v Speaker 3>alone around the whole circuit.

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01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:44.719
<v Speaker 11>And the ability for you to cross is very difficult.

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01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:47.280
<v Speaker 11>So there's very few crossing spaces as well, so that

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01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:49.480
<v Speaker 11>connectivity in the way that people move through it is

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01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:50.760
<v Speaker 11>also really really difficult.

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01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it would. Jason Redmond, who's done some research on this,

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01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:59.800
<v Speaker 3>is trying to get funding for a feasibility study. Yeah, right,

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01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:03.320
<v Speaker 3>just to develop a business case. A couple of years

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01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:05.719
<v Speaker 3>ago he was quoting the figure of seventy five thousand

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01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:08.280
<v Speaker 3>dollars and I don't know why he can't get commitment

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01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:11.400
<v Speaker 3>from either side of politics and or the city council.

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01:06:11.559 --> 01:06:12.800
<v Speaker 10>One thousand dollars.

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01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:15.679
<v Speaker 3>It's not much in the terms of a state government budget. Yeah,

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01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:18.800
<v Speaker 3>the former Treasurer Rob Lucas ruled it out, and we're

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01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:22.079
<v Speaker 3>hoping that the state labor government might come to the

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01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:28.199
<v Speaker 3>party with at least a feasibility study. Jason might be

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01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:30.159
<v Speaker 3>a great person to have on your blog to talk

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01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:32.639
<v Speaker 3>about this in greater depth because he's done a lot

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01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:36.079
<v Speaker 3>of work on it. He seems to think that a

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01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:39.639
<v Speaker 3>tunnel is cheaper than a bridge cut and cover because

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01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:41.280
<v Speaker 3>you don't have very far to do it. You could

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01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 3>close the road and open it again within a couple

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01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:49.159
<v Speaker 3>of days, and you would need some way to make

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01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:54.199
<v Speaker 3>sure that the lighting was good so that nobody felt

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01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:56.880
<v Speaker 3>in danger going under a road.

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01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:58.840
<v Speaker 10>You could run a whole bunch of different events.

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01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:02.639
<v Speaker 3>Circle roughly around the well.

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01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:04.920
<v Speaker 11>It depends, will be like an Adelaide marathon, you know, yes,

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01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:06.400
<v Speaker 11>and then have a have a run around the.

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01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Park without having to close any roads.

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01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:13.480
<v Speaker 11>That's right and really open that up, involve Adelaide.

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01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.000
<v Speaker 3>And he's wanting to involve the Garner community and having

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01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:21.400
<v Speaker 3>spots on the circuit where the Garner were acknowledged, referenced

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01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:27.400
<v Speaker 3>in some way participated. So that's and the idea, you know,

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01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:32.519
<v Speaker 3>in terms of helping the parklands, when people can appreciate

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01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:36.239
<v Speaker 3>them as one whole, not just as we've got Park

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01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:38.480
<v Speaker 3>fifteen here, we've got Part twelve over there, we've got

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01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Park six over in the north, and you know, they're

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01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:43.000
<v Speaker 3>separate parks that get picked off one by one or

1127
01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:44.679
<v Speaker 3>bits in them get picked off one by one. But

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01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:47.000
<v Speaker 3>when they're acknowledged as a whole.

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01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:47.679
<v Speaker 10>That's a major threat.

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01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:51.519
<v Speaker 11>Still unique because for me as a user, I definitely

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01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:56.679
<v Speaker 11>see as a southeast and part of the north of

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01:07:56.719 --> 01:07:59.559
<v Speaker 11>the parklands. But yeah, having that whole ring route would

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01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:02.159
<v Speaker 11>absolutely open up the western side for me.

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01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:07.199
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, it's a figure eight wrapping around the North Adelaide

1135
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:11.719
<v Speaker 3>in a city. Well, I mean you can do a

1136
01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:14.239
<v Speaker 3>loop of the CBD of course it's a circle, or

1137
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:16.159
<v Speaker 3>you can do a loop of North Adelaide is a circle,

1138
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:18.199
<v Speaker 3>or you can take the whole figure eight yeah.

1139
01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:20.079
<v Speaker 11>But one an amazing thing if you came to Adelaide

1140
01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:21.880
<v Speaker 11>as a tourist even and you want to experience it,

1141
01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:24.800
<v Speaker 11>you hire one of the bikes, the e bikes even,

1142
01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:27.079
<v Speaker 11>and go for a tour around Adelaide and you'd see

1143
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:29.199
<v Speaker 11>all of that and you can even have then a trail.

1144
01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:30.960
<v Speaker 10>We've got so much amazing stuff happening.

1145
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:34.000
<v Speaker 11>You could go and do a trail and stop in

1146
01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.279
<v Speaker 11>at the zoo or the Wine Center and that could

1147
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:38.119
<v Speaker 11>then become a part of that and then have the

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01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:40.880
<v Speaker 11>Adelaide Marathon or a matathon.

1149
01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:42.760
<v Speaker 3>A marathon is forty two point two.

1150
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:45.640
<v Speaker 11>K there you go, so half marathon, yeah, you can

1151
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:47.239
<v Speaker 11>make it twenty one two loops.

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01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:48.359
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's right.

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01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:52.159
<v Speaker 3>There is a Parkland's trail, but it's not very well

1154
01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:54.560
<v Speaker 3>signposted and it requires you to cross.

1155
01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:56.079
<v Speaker 10>A lot of roads for sure, that's right.

1156
01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:57.960
<v Speaker 3>And a couple of train lines too, I think, yeah,

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01:08:58.199 --> 01:08:58.760
<v Speaker 3>at least once.

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01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:01.680
<v Speaker 11>So just coming back to the restore point as well.

1159
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:06.399
<v Speaker 11>So what else my view would be that the Aquatic

1160
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:08.760
<v Speaker 11>Center should go into into Bowden.

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01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:12.279
<v Speaker 10>What else? Yeah?

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01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:15.039
<v Speaker 3>Sure, Oh well, we we also do a clean uper

1163
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Park Day twice a year, so we do it on

1164
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:24.520
<v Speaker 3>clean Up Australia day and another day. Well, how long

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01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:27.119
<v Speaker 3>have we got to talk Kenry, because you know we've got.

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01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:31.159
<v Speaker 10>Dozen we've two minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there are a lot of buildings that have been

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01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:36.800
<v Speaker 3>put on park lands and suggesting that a building should

1169
01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:38.840
<v Speaker 3>be demolished is very controversial.

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01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:41.279
<v Speaker 10>But the most got the skate park right on.

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01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:46.439
<v Speaker 3>The skate park is almost finished completion in there's a

1172
01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:50.439
<v Speaker 3>skate park on that's been constructed now in Park twenty five,

1173
01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:56.039
<v Speaker 3>but that was We've got a once in a generation

1174
01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:58.960
<v Speaker 3>opportunity with the aquatic center because that is going to

1175
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:03.119
<v Speaker 3>be demolished. It can't stay and so that's the greatest

1176
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:06.359
<v Speaker 3>opportunity for restoration at the moment because both the state

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01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:09.039
<v Speaker 3>government and the City Council agree that that spot is

1178
01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:12.319
<v Speaker 3>going to be restored to parklands. There are a lot

1179
01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:17.359
<v Speaker 3>of bitchumen places and it's a lot easier to propose

1180
01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:22.239
<v Speaker 3>reinstalling something green in what was bitchumen than it is

1181
01:10:22.279 --> 01:10:23.079
<v Speaker 3>to knock down.

1182
01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:25.319
<v Speaker 10>The street because that's been closed for twelve weeks now.

1183
01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:26.479
<v Speaker 10>No it sins.

1184
01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Don't tell Rundel Street traders, but no, there's a lot

1185
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:32.000
<v Speaker 3>of bitchumen car parks that don't need to be there.

1186
01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:36.720
<v Speaker 3>And I was really really happy to see that cattle tilla.

1187
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:40.600
<v Speaker 3>The Parklands Authority only a few weeks ago decided that

1188
01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:45.000
<v Speaker 3>when a new sports building is put in Golden Wattle

1189
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Park off Goodwood Road, that there will be no car

1190
01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:51.000
<v Speaker 3>parks associated with that new building in that park. That

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01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:53.279
<v Speaker 3>there's plenty of car parking on Goodwood Road or on

1192
01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:56.800
<v Speaker 3>South Terrace for people. But yeah, I can. There's a

1193
01:10:56.920 --> 01:11:01.000
<v Speaker 3>lovely little video that we've got on apps YouTube channel

1194
01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Unpaving Paradise that is the name of the video, and

1195
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:07.600
<v Speaker 3>it goes through and shows you all of the spots

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01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.479
<v Speaker 3>in the parklands where there are car parks.

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01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:12.279
<v Speaker 11>So the last point I'd also like to make, which

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01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:17.159
<v Speaker 11>is something that in burnsideom and City councilor there, there's

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01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:19.239
<v Speaker 11>been a real pressure to put in and pave a

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01:11:19.319 --> 01:11:25.960
<v Speaker 11>large area. And often people who are advocates for open

1201
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:28.800
<v Speaker 11>green space they're seen as negative or saying no to

1202
01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:31.800
<v Speaker 11>everything and saying no to development. And something you inspired

1203
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:35.000
<v Speaker 11>me was well, no, you're you're saying yes to keeping,

1204
01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:37.319
<v Speaker 11>you're saying yes to retaining what we have.

1205
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sometimes the Adelaide Parklands Association is characterized as being

1206
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:46.439
<v Speaker 3>negative and that's not true because we have said that well, yeah, which.

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01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:46.840
<v Speaker 10>Is so not true.

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01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:49.359
<v Speaker 11>It's you know, in his environment Minister, and you're there

1209
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:51.560
<v Speaker 11>saying we love our parklands, let's keep them.

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01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:56.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're not negative because we value. We have different values.

1211
01:11:56.680 --> 01:12:01.119
<v Speaker 3>We are very very positive about what we value, and

1212
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:03.680
<v Speaker 3>it's we could easily just turn that around the other

1213
01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:05.279
<v Speaker 3>way and say, if you want to put a big

1214
01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:08.319
<v Speaker 3>building on parklands, then you're being negative about the parklands.

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01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:12.880
<v Speaker 11>Exactly right, last point, you have a record, what's it in?

1216
01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:14.960
<v Speaker 11>Because this is incredible.

1217
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:18.920
<v Speaker 3>We're going for totally changing. We're not talking about parklands.

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01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:24.039
<v Speaker 3>We're talking about Shane's Because I am such a determined

1219
01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:29.199
<v Speaker 3>person and I love cycling, and I'm not really fast.

1220
01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:33.600
<v Speaker 3>I have tried racing, and you should veteran cyclist. Master's

1221
01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:36.479
<v Speaker 3>cycling racing is horrific. You know, those people are really

1222
01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:41.680
<v Speaker 3>really fast. So I've got endurance. So I am the

1223
01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:48.600
<v Speaker 3>current world record holder in a rather obscure event called

1224
01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:54.880
<v Speaker 3>everesting ten k, which involves riding your bike up a

1225
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:59.079
<v Speaker 3>hill repeated times until you've reached more than the height

1226
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:02.119
<v Speaker 3>of everest, in fact ten thousand meters, hence the ten k.

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01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:04.680
<v Speaker 3>That's that's not ten k of distance. That's ten k

1228
01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:08.399
<v Speaker 3>of altitude. So in December last year, I wrote up

1229
01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:12.239
<v Speaker 3>and down Old Wolunga Hill forty one times over twenty

1230
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:16.960
<v Speaker 3>six hours and exceeded ten thousand meters in altitude. And

1231
01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:19.119
<v Speaker 3>my record is not that I did it or that

1232
01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I was the fastest. It's that I'm the oldest person

1233
01:13:22.640 --> 01:13:25.279
<v Speaker 3>in the world to have been stupid enough to do that.

1234
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:29.399
<v Speaker 3>So the record is sixty five years ten months, which

1235
01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:30.720
<v Speaker 3>was my age when I did it.

1236
01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:32.439
<v Speaker 10>Amazing. Well there you go.

1237
01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:36.399
<v Speaker 11>So thank you so much Shane for coming on my podcasts.

1238
01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:39.520
<v Speaker 11>You're you are an inspiration to me and someone who's

1239
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:42.520
<v Speaker 11>you know, still fighting for that. You have this absolute determination.

1240
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:45.600
<v Speaker 11>I think that's showcased at your world record. I'm sure

1241
01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:48.119
<v Speaker 11>you'll do it again someday, maybe in a couple of

1242
01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:49.000
<v Speaker 11>years because you want to.

1243
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh there's another world record that I'm after, which is

1244
01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:53.760
<v Speaker 3>held by somebody in Canada, but that's another story.

1245
01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:55.359
<v Speaker 10>Yeah right, well I'll have you back on.

1246
01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:58.239
<v Speaker 11>But like, thank you, thank you so much for your

1247
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:03.079
<v Speaker 11>passion around about the parklands. That's absolutely inspired me and

1248
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:05.560
<v Speaker 11>I think so many people, whether they.

1249
01:14:05.479 --> 01:14:07.640
<v Speaker 10>Know it or not, I really do appreciate all the.

1250
01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Work that you do, and so many people either do

1251
01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:11.760
<v Speaker 3>love the Parklands or.

1252
01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:14.199
<v Speaker 10>Would if they knew what we had exactly.

1253
01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:15.920
<v Speaker 3>And we would love to welcome them as.

1254
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:16.800
<v Speaker 10>Members absolutely well.

1255
01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:55.800
<v Speaker 9>Thank you, Seane, Thanks Henry.

1256
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1257
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:06.319
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