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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Gimmick Here on geek Verse.

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It is your wrestling show. I am the Phantom and

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I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: At some bobs. Here. We're back again with a quicker

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episode than usual.

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Speaker 1: I'd say, yep, quicker than usual. Travis Snell is not here,

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as some of you know who has been following the

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geek Verse as a whole. He was viciously attacked at

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his own home wall talking about his return to podcasting.

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So since that attack, he is still at home recovering,

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so we are waiting on an update on our co

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host when he will be back. He did make a

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brief cameo on Marvel Alliance podcast this week where I

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had the pleasure of seeing him full bandish up. So

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I mean it's real to.

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Speaker 3: Him, damn it.

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Speaker 1: So where are we seeing him? A speedy recovery, but

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we are going to just start off by a s

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Bub's house. Your time been since I've last seen.

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Speaker 2: You, It's been good. I went to a WA house

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show holiday tour a few weeks ago. That was fun

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just seeing live wrestling there and also just hearing other people,

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like casual fans' thoughts on wrestling stuff. That's happening. I

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have a funny one. I can mention play later when

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we talk about some stuff related and related to it.

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But yeah, I've been having a good time so far.

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And yeah, it's definitely a big week of lots of

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wrestling news of all sorts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's been a lot of wrestling going on on.

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You know, we've had the big one with Raw's Netflix

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debut and everything that's gone on with that. We've had

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some stuff happening in the sphere of a w and

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you know, we ended the year and now we're looking

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forward to seeing what is next in the world of wrestlings. So,

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speaking of Rall's Netflix debut, let's just go ahead and

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start with that. Oh, something's happening here.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, he.

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Speaker 4: Has risen, I have risen. I'm here. We can think

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that there's no words that God damn.

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Speaker 2: Make the joke that, like much like aw with Keny,

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Omega will really never know when he's ready to come back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just like Kenny, o'meagel will never know when

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he's come back. And I'm here. Luckily the grandparents picked

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up the other kiddos a little earlier, so I thought,

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you know what, I mean, come by, it's not my

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return to geek first gimmicks. Gimmicks are show. I was

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made sure the lawyers got right to that, so we'll

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talk about that all another time. But no, I'm I'm

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here to join some fun. So I didn't tell these

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two guys. And I'm like, oh if I, cause I

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didn't know I it was gonna line up like if

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not I had the cooking video ready, I'm like, Okay,

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I'm gonna get ready. Damn why if I think it

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slowed it down and stuff. But no, I'm I'm happy

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to be here because there's lots of talk about So

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I'm excited to join here.

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Speaker 1: So awesome, And you're jumping in at a perfect time.

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We were just about to get into the wonderment that

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was the raw Netflix debut January sixth, Big things happened.

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It was hyped to note in they have moved from

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their home on the USA network, where they have been

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with the exception of a brief stint with another channel

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for a while, but they have been with Spike.

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Speaker 4: Remember they were on Spike the network for men. Were

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you alive? S? Pubs? When Spike was a thing where

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you know what that is. It was. That's what it was.

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It was the network for men and it was all

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like Cops. It was Girls Gone Wild. It was I'm

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not sure if you ever heard of this show. It's

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called A Thousand Ways to Die. It's like it's yeah,

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so it's all like the most like male coded stuff and.

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Speaker 2: Of like something like it was it like they had

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like an awards show or something. I think I think

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the Men's Award or something like accepting. I forget what

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the context of it is. I remember it's a funny video,

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but you awards.

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Speaker 4: They used to give antlers out to people's awards. I

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think it was the Men Awards.

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Speaker 1: Because they had a Man Show with Adam Carolla and

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after Ross. You would have Raw, you'd have the Man Show,

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and then you'd go into three hours of ads for

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, if you're watching that any time from two

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am to six am, it was a wild time to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a big moment for the WW. They

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promised us something along the lines of a WrestleMania.

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Speaker 3: They did deliver that in some ways.

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Speaker 1: I will say that I wouldn't say when it comes

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to match quality or things like that, but when it

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comes to the presentation, it had the big event feel

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and when it came into the massive run ins and

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constant bringing back of old school wrestlers, it did definitely

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have the WrestleMania field to it. So as well as

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to the Netflix Raw debut.

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Speaker 2: I'd say overall, I liked it. I think it was

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good and we'll for me in the and you know,

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for us viewers it was had didn't have no ads,

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but I had reduced ads. I do think that made

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a difference. Like I feel like it wasn't like I

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felt like, okay, we're right back to it after only

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a little bit. I thought like overall it didn't feel

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long as it was. I think there was a lot

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going on, even if just match was there was only

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smack down the pacing, but I guess there's a well

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and even when you look at it, you're like, oh,

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just more matches. But then you look at stuff like

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how long was that opening promo? How long was the

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scene of promo. How long did it take Rock to

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walk to the ring and put the ula pall on Roman.

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when you really look at it, there was probably just

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like an hour of stuff that's not wrestling. Was still

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stuff going on, just that's not ads. And because I

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think without ads, on the replay it's like two thirty

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or two twenty or something like that.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's much lower on the replay. They they cut

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it down significantly. They also on the replay, Uh cut

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the Rocks massive amount of cursing. You know, if anyone

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has seen the backstage footage of him and Drew, and

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curse now.

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Speaker 4: Drew in for the Juggular, I.

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Speaker 2: Saw and I forgot to watch it. I knew, I

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knew what it would be, but I watch it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he goes in. He says, you know, the standard

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words that they normally get bleeped forward. Then he says

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some words that you do not expect to see on television.

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Speaker 4: Even words I've never heard undert.

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Speaker 1: Yes, words that I rarely even hear on Netflix television,

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Like it was that much. So uh yeah, Now what's

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your initial thoughts of it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so overall, I I enjoyed it. I understand why

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more lately. So I saw the reactions the day after that,

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right because there's always this expression. Maybe it's different with

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general audience and SummerSlam was the big event for the

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wrestling fans. That's when you'd get your likes.

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Speaker 2: A lot from fans that said, like Backlash was WrestleMania.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that had to be the thing. That money of

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the bank at times has been WrestleMania. So that's the thing.

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company started being like, oh this feels like WrestleMania, It's

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like Okay, I know exactly what type of show we're

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gonna get. You know where they get Netflix, because they

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only told me about fifteen hundred times, Like I may

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get it in.

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Speaker 2: The in the Netflix, like the like the Raw Top

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ten moments in between each moment they tell you, like

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get Netflix to watch Raw, Like we're all I watching this,

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I'm watching Netflix. There's Raw top set moments and yeah,

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tell me it's they get Netflix to watch.

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Speaker 4: Like I don't have it here. But it's the same

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thing with you, guys and Kim telling you to come

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to AMC. It's like you're already there. It's the same thing.

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on the ring. It's like there's a Netflix logo everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Stuff to me makes sense Like if you're if this

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clip is going around, then there's a big Netflix starving

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on it. Like that makes sense to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like out of context or anywhere else. Yeah, that's fine.

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padding and biggest debut ever and everything like that. So

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it was a long time. But for me, I just thought,

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that's what they're gonna do. They do the same thing

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in WrestleMania. We're sold out, biggest gate ever.

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Speaker 2: We are super Kicks, but we should It's it's exciting.

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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that would have been good.

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Speaker 2: Maybe more than the Super Kicks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, it could be close to fifty honestly in

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a three hour broadcast. But overall I thought it was good.

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it's been, to the point of I shared you guys

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article where they're like they're looking at new superstars to

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I don't understand. But overall, I thought it was a

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good debut. But this week we'll be back to regular raw.

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it was great because now it's like a, I don't

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Speaker 2: I saw videos of like I saw the international for NXT.

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was watching live, there were some do you I don't

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know if there's like for in the When I was

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watching it live, it was like they had picture and

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it just went to the to the graphics so that you.

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Speaker 4: Mean to these videos the and it's just like all them,

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Speaker 2: Know because it was like a special CW thing like it.

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picture picture and it said like c he presents NonStop NXT.

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the picture and picture who was just the Entrick Williams

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was tough to.

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Speaker 2: I think the lawn last, like the SmackDown three hour

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debut last week, was pretty good. But I think what

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I've learned is like if there's a show with no

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matches announced, like in Triple, it's gonna it's gonna be

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bad or like Killer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just it's just I think stuff like

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we obviously we didn't get pental. We'll talk about that

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at some point, I'm sure, but that stuff where it's

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like Penton needs to go to smack Like I think

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SmackDown needs a couple and I know people like, oh,

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bron Shaman's injured. It's like, that's not the juice I'm

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talking about. Maybe I guess that's all right, but yeah,

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so I need somewhere. But yeah, David, what do you

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think about Netflix?

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Speaker 1: I thought, overall, like I said, it was a WrestleMania

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caliber show, and the fact that it had all the

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pomp and circumstance, It had all the let's bring this back,

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let's have this moment. It was all about the moments,

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not the matches, except there was four matches, three of

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which were pretty good matches, but it was four matches

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to just get us through. But it was more about

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let's give you these memorable moments. We started off with

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the video that they released that beforehand, so we kind

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of knew what was coming with that. We had the video,

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and then of course Papa h has to do the intro.

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Speaker 4: We yeah, we all call that.

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Speaker 1: We we dropped the curtain and there he is. I

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did get fearful at a moment when they set off

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the pirro and he's still in the ring, like.

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Speaker 4: I love those means. It's like, and then they killed

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Triple A. It's just just like, shit, he's gone.

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Speaker 2: It's like because in the like in the hard tamp angle,

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it looks like he's like right near the front of

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the ring. But if you look at the other angle,

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that's like, yeah, he was like in the back, like

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sort of near the the other side of the ropes

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with the pirate in front of him. But yeah, I

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just looked like he blew up and immediately.

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Speaker 3: Immediately it looked like he was right in there.

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Speaker 1: And then of course we've got the biggest star in

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all of wrestling. Dwayne makes his babyface. Dwayne makes his

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return to the w WE and just says, hey, remember

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the last year and a half. Forget about it.

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Speaker 4: I love Cody Rhodes, I love Roman Reins. Like I

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guess yeah, because you get your thoughts, we could start there.

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I absolutely hated all this. I'm of two minds right

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because I think clearly the Rock has no fucking clue

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when he's coming back. So I do appreciate I could

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be wrong, right because people are like, oh, he could

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wake up Tuesday and change his mind. I felt like

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this was probably like, yeah, like even a backstage I'm

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not doing Mania like and this to me felt like

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a standout. So I like that. I like that for

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the talent because all the scoopers have said, like everyone's

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super paranoid back there, So now he can start to

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build and not be like last year when it's just

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a big change. But I wish there was other ways.

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I even think there's a way he could have said

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the things he said about Cody but still had the

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final boss more character and kind of just still make

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it like I'll see assume, but it Honestly, I would

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have been surprised that the Rock was like and I've

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learned I can never wrestle again, and like I'll be here,

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but I'm just an ambassador.

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Speaker 2: He apparently got like some injury and like that like

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the eight twenty four movie was filming, he got like,

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oh did he like, yeah, he like tour something like

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in training and that was like they delayed a bunch. Yeah,

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it's like they feel didn't get injured at all in

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the working the match at WrestleMania in the training floor,

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and then he's training for a movie of MMA, and

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yeah he got injured there.

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Speaker 4: He's too fucking big. He needs to take a note

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from Batista. He needs to slip. Rock is a massive dude.

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If he were to trim even twenty pounds, he's still

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gonna look more massive than most humans.

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Speaker 2: Like he just he's so definitely not for WrestleMania because

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I remember people are concerned, like he was he hit

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gender in a hall like three times and he was

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looking gassed and then yeah, Fornia, Fornia is looking better.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so I guess it all depends for me

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of what happens in the future. If we never get

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Rock and Roman and RockA Cody, then I was kind

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of like, Okay, fine, he just blewed off went away.

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If we do revisit that, it does take a little

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steam off it because I thought last year, like you're else,

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they did it such a good job of what's real

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and what's not. This to me literally felt like the

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magicians showing you how the trick was made. And I'm fine,

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if they do it, maybe I can get excited, but

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just felt like there was still that.

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Speaker 2: It was like a Hall of Fame segment where they're

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just like, not, why the.

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Speaker 4: Same yeah, and that's where like all so it was.

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It was odd. There was that stuff he didn't have

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to do. I also found all they didn't think Triple

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H at all, like you think almost everybody tap person

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and not Triple I'm sure it's fine, even though the

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great video of them backstage Triple H going for like

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the Dab and Rock.

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Speaker 2: One of my most liked letter box reviews is me

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reviewing that WrestleMania documentary and saying, I think I think

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Rock and Triple hate each other for real.

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Speaker 4: I think there's a part of that still does. Seeah,

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I hated the opening segment. I was really disappointed. But

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we know we're going somewhere else for Mania, so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see in the chat that Rock promo was

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a disaster, basically Pat Cody on the head. Also, why

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no entrance in big deal for the U versus Champ.

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I get that everything about the Rocks promo, yet it

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was off. He could have stayed the final boss. He

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could have said, hey, here's your kudos, but I'm giving

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you these because I wasn't here.

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Speaker 3: You the whole everything he said.

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Speaker 1: About you know, you've been running with the ball all

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year and things like that. He could still set that,

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but then made it safe because I wasn't here, like

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you are only to do able to do those things,

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because I wasn't here to do that.

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Speaker 2: What you're saying right there is like literally the exact

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promo that Oba said to Trick Williams like two weeks

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ago about why he was n XT champion. He said

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that he was only un champion because he was a

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North American champion for the whole year, and then he

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let him be champion.

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Speaker 1: Tis triple Ace doesn't want to work Tuesdays.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, and even the Roman Reins thing was odd

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because he said that he's like, I'm gonna be watching

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real close to travel cal himbat So I thought, Okay,

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he's piecing out like the rocks out of here. But

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then he still can back to do the Ulafalla gimmicks.

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So I was like, why did he even say anything?

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It was It was strange, But I I with Heines's question.

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I yeah, I'm I'm a Cody Rhodes guy, so I'm biased.

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But I said to you guys in the discord, I'm like,

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he better not just be there to brawl Kevin Owens,

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and he was. That's all they did with them. He

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was sitting in the crowd. He kind of looked a

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little like a chump with the rock in the ring

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having this fucking he didn't have the people tell that point,

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but the girl.

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Speaker 2: When they had all the lights off before I started

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playing the cold open and it was all dark, people

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are chanting Cody like before the thing you started.

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Speaker 4: I just feel it's I don't think it's as bad

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nowhere near, but the conspiracy guy. I lived through the

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Punk twenty twelve, twenty fourteen era, and I still feel like, Okay,

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so if why is Roman and Solo having their big match,

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is that not Cody? You know, I still feel like

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WW says Cody's the quarterback, but they Roman's still the

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guy to them. And I'm still waiting for that that

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moment of when Cody is a little bit of abumman

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because I said, I think I'd have to do the math.

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But I think since anytime Roman's on a show, I

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don't think Cody's ever man invented over him. It's always

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Cody somewhere else unless they're together, right, So yeah, yeah,

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I was a little disappointed that all it was was

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just you know, you get the woe he beats up Kevin.

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You know, that was it.

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Speaker 1: I will say the one good and redeeming part about

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the Rocks promo is him calling out Netflix and saying

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that if he starts glitching, he was gonna come up

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there and handle him. I was like that that was

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a nice little nod, because you know, that's been a

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conversation that's been happening, like how will they be able

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to handle the traffic? So him calling that out immediately

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was a little bit funny, Bud, and that there was

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no need even says, hey, I'm going to be watching

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the tribal combat closely before he gets into the his

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catchphrase of if you can smell with the rock is cooking.

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And then right after that we move move into our

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first to four matches of the night, the solo versus

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Roman Reigns in the tribal combat match, Which why do

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we keep doing the tribal combat matches? I get, it's.

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Speaker 2: Seconally only been one other tribal combat match. This is

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different from a Roman Reigns is undefeated in tribal combat,

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Cody r is undefeated in bloodline rules.

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Speaker 4: They're different there, I forgot is.

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Speaker 2: For the for the tribal chiefdom. Okay, bloodline rules, it's

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just blood blood line.

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Speaker 1: If anyone can run in and thirty people will run in,

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which is.

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Speaker 4: Other than the Jay other than the Jam Roman Trial

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Combat one, they're all the same match where it's the

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they wrestle and then it turns into w w N

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game where people come out and it's just it's it's

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like lasting degrees from WrestleMania to SummerSlam to now, I

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don't need another trial combat.

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Speaker 2: Like the Well, we'll talk about the Summer Slam match later.

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I'll say that that the Cody versus Solo SummerSlam match

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is on one of my My Awards.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, they they have their traditional wrestling

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match to start it off before Tomatonga comes in and

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Jacob Fox two comes in and they're going down on it.

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And then the first person to run out to the.

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Speaker 3: Ring is Sammy Lusso.

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Speaker 1: He's the great savior of all these people that you

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had in the back. And I'm gonna get to another

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point with this in the second is Sammy Uso is

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the first one to come out. No one else from

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the old blood line, no one else from his family.

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Speaker 2: Sammy and Jimmy like running together. Yeah, they both came

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in at the same time. It was just Sammy's music.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you give you give Sammy the pop out of

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all of them, You're giving sam the pop.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy comes down him again.

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Speaker 4: That is jim again, that pop though like he'll get

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somewhat pop up. People aren't pop in the same way

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for Sammy. You know, I'm very curious what Jimmy does

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when he's not teaming with Cody, his brother or sam.

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Speaker 1: So they go back and forth and then it's uh

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Sammy saying, and Jimmy versus Uh Jacob and Toma Tonga

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all the brawl and Kevin Owens comes down to nowhere

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hits the stars.

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Speaker 3: Awesome.

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Speaker 4: That that was great. I actually thought Rome was gonna

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lose there because I thought, oh what, and I kind

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of hope he did, not that I want more of

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the tribal comment, but just like that would have been

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such a great mode for the Kevin Owens character, like

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to fuck and know what sucks. It's it's weird that

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Roman's like when you back next Juary too said like

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doesn't give a fuck, Kevin Owens gone involved the match

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all it's like whatever I'm piecing off. So I was

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hoping that was the end of it. Actually to see

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what happened.

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Speaker 1: So, uh, he comes out and then Cody hits the center.

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Cody has to come out, hit the ring, you know,

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get his mother in there. Rains connects with the spear

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one two three, he wins.

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Speaker 3: After the match, we.

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Speaker 1: Get Paul Hayman doing the kneel down with the ulafalla

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handed to him and who comes back? But the Rock

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gotta make it about him. Remind you while he is

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00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,039
the head of the table. So he comes back. He

472
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,880
places the ulafalo around Roman Rains's neck. They have that

473
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:35,240
stare down before they then have the Arnold Schwarzenegger grasp

474
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:41,519
clap up so that they're all quote unquote united, which

475
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:45,000
again furthers the whole Rock's not coming back. I think

476
00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:50,119
that while Roman reigns, winning in this context did fit

477
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,799
and it does help with the story. I think because

478
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,039
you're gonna have more with new bloodline versus the old

479
00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:59,519
blood line. So this was booking wise, a good decision.

480
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,799
Rock coming out at the end. I'm not too sure

481
00:25:03,799 --> 00:25:06,720
about that. Even if it was just to blow up

482
00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:09,720
the last year of booking. It just it didn't seem

483
00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:11,200
to make that much sense.

484
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: I was hoping for rock Bottom, man, I was so

485
00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:17,359
I was so even if we didn't pick up on

486
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,000
it later, I was like, okay, even if we don't

487
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,319
get Roman or Cody and Rock, that's fine, I want

488
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,799
one the Butani he still stood there. I know people

489
00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:26,359
are like, he looks mad after but who knows.

490
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: But you never do the turn.

491
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,839
Speaker 1: You gotta as stone clothes say call in audible, say hey,

492
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,319
look forward, hit him with the rock bottoming call of

493
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,759
the day.

494
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 4: When I suppose is at a frame, I just love it.

495
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:43,720
Just shoot her with the keeek thing. Uh yeah. The

496
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:46,039
actual match, I don't have much to say. I thought

497
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:49,160
it was fine. I thought, yeah, no, I just thought

498
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,960
it was It was okay. I think it's the type

499
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,160
of match that people meme solo for, and I feel

500
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,640
like I'm a solo defender. I don't think he's great,

501
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,759
but I think people talk about him like he's this

502
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,599
awful worker. But this match just it was kind of

503
00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:02,920
I think the problem is because when all these matches

504
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,599
they work around knowing what that ending is gonna be

505
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,599
all interference. So I thought it was fine. My last

506
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:11,039
point because I don't think we're fully reviewing smacked, I said,

507
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:14,079
you guys in discord, I'm just officially done with Bloodline

508
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,720
versus Bloodline stuff. That now that to me, this should

509
00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:20,640
have been the end. And already on SmackDown we're getting

510
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,440
Cody and Jimmy teaming up. But uh yeah, I don't

511
00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:25,640
I don't really care about it now. I think let's

512
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,079
move on.

513
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: They're sort of moving on to like now there's sort

514
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,000
of like this l A Night stuff with Jacob and

515
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,400
the US title. Yeah stuff. I think that's where they're

516
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:36,880
gonna go.

517
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,599
Speaker 1: Now, Solo's gonna come back and he has to answer

518
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,519
for him his loss. So who knows where they're gonna

519
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:44,720
go from here. I don't know if jacobatu is going

520
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:46,599
to take over the New blood Line and we go

521
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,319
from there, but.

522
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,079
Speaker 5: Home more New blood Line, the exact same segment they

523
00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:54,480
always do, really kick someone on, someone new comes in

524
00:26:54,599 --> 00:27:00,039
and that's we finally got the debut of Talatonga and

525
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,480
changes his name as Caesar.

526
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:06,759
Speaker 4: So goa, I get the I get the ideas behind them.

527
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,440
It's just like, well, we're gonna kick Solo. That's Jacob,

528
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,119
Talma and Tall. It's just like we're really we're really.

529
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:16,279
Speaker 1: Really starting to go in wo style. We had to

530
00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:18,680
split off. We had the wolf Pack and now we.

531
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: Are just diluting the waters here.

532
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,079
Speaker 1: So yeah, my.

533
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,559
Speaker 4: Pitch is, I don't know if if they want to

534
00:27:25,559 --> 00:27:28,559
do Jacob and Roman, because obviously Jacob would have to

535
00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:31,000
be heal. But obviously we'll talk about Roman later in

536
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,599
his plans.

537
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: Uh.

538
00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:35,039
Speaker 4: I've been pitching that you keep the new bloodline around

539
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:38,200
to Rumble and then you have Jacob and Solo clash

540
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:40,920
at Rumble and that starts the full on breaking. To me,

541
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,839
that's the that's the agenda, Solo and Jacob at Many.

542
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,519
I think that's like a good mid card like twelve

543
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:49,119
to fifteen match. You put Jacob over Strong and then

544
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:52,920
I don't know, he goes and beats, squashes, Knockamora or

545
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,960
somebody like. I think, like Jacob and Roman, you can

546
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,200
do it any time. I think Jacob and Solo because

547
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,599
if not, I really I suppose me like Soulo is

548
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,680
going to be like a batter oil guy, like I

549
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,440
don't know what like that to me is the last

550
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:10,759
cap of that. But I suppose was this was this

551
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,839
match a match of year for you?

552
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: It was what I expected. I think the the run

553
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,680
in and stuff made it more fun and like I said,

554
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,880
I really like the ko one really got me. But overall, yeah,

555
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,880
it was what I expect. I didn't think Solo was

556
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:35,799
gonna win and he didn't. Uh, But yeah, just like

557
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:38,000
you said, interesting to see where they go, what the

558
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:43,079
new Bloodline does sort of outside of Bloodline stuff in

559
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:43,839
the future.

560
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: Where do we go from here with them? That is

561
00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:50,000
going to be the big question, and we'll have to

562
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,799
stay tuned to see what Triple H has in store

563
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,599
for them, whether it be going forward on Raw on

564
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,680
Netflix or if they stay on Small. I have a

565
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,119
feeling though, that they started off and they kicked off

566
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,000
Raw because Roman will be moving to Raw. He will

567
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:10,559
be one of their faces for that.

568
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: What do we think he's doing the twenty seventh, because

569
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:15,759
I feel like it's I don't know, it could be

570
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,599
something too K related, but that's dumb because like it's

571
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,359
we like, I don't think it's a big thing. We

572
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,880
know he's probably the cover. They already said he's in

573
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,079
the Rumble. That's what I thought it was gonna be

574
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,799
of him just doing a cinema proma and then I'm

575
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:29,960
gonna win the Royal Rumble, but they let Paul do that,

576
00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:33,000
so I'm not sure if it's just a stare down

577
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,440
with someone. They could always go for an easy scene

578
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,720
a Roman segment. I actually think that could be fun.

579
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:41,079
Speaker 2: To talk about. I mean maybe he says like, I

580
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:43,119
don't know, like I'm the greatest of all time and

581
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960
I'm gonna win the rumble and then see it comes out.

582
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,279
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, so that'd be good fun.

583
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: I think it will be uh Paul Hayman having a

584
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:56,079
celebration of Roman where he announced they formally announced him

585
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,680
as not only the tribal chief but the for the

586
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:03,960
new two K game. And then that's when we will

587
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:07,359
have the Who's Roman's next opponent? Who's gonna come out

588
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,319
ruin this celebration? Where do we go from here?

589
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,119
Speaker 3: As someone else declares for the rod.

590
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,559
Speaker 4: Rumble carrying Cross gonna come out with fucking little sand

591
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,640
a time thing because he did that to Roman when

592
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,160
he came back. He interfered in a Roman match. They

593
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,720
got to pay that off. I'm waiting every time, like

594
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:29,400
when's Roman and Carrion Cross getting it. I was gonna

595
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,440
say something else about the oh the I was gonna

596
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,079
say the game. They shouldn't make like a pre order

597
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:37,160
bolt bonus where you get like an Ula Falla or

598
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,880
something like that. I'm surprised.

599
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: It's like it's like the pre order bonus. Yeah, because

600
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,200
this year is the for Cody. The pre order bonuses.

601
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:49,039
You've got a I think you got Undashing Cody Rhodes,

602
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:54,160
you got Dusty, and you got I think Superstar Billy

603
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,359
Grant you did.

604
00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get like Roman's dad. That could be one.

605
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,400
You could get him in like the FCW worries in

606
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,319
the trunks Like really, I think, yeah, Joe like yeah,

607
00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:08,319
whatever he went by, and like Shield he's always there,

608
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,200
Like there's a Shield version always in the game. So

609
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,400
you get that. I guess you get the Action Figure

610
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,359
one two, right, Roman? But I was gonna say, why

611
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:17,839
aren't they I know it's like precious, but why is

612
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,759
W not selling fake Ula falls for people to boy?

613
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,680
You know back in the.

614
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: Back when physical copies were more of a thing, like

615
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,559
how they had to undertake a edition and you had

616
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:28,640
to coffin or you had to find ballad one with

617
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,920
the toy or things like that. I think if we

618
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,240
were still heavy into the physical editions, they would probably

619
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,920
have a deluxe edition that had an Ula follow with it.

620
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,200
Because I got frontality. If Roman Reigns is going to

621
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,240
be uh this one. You would have a quote unquote

622
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:50,559
Tribal Chief Edition that would come with the Samoan Dynasty

623
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,319
DLC included, so you would get, you know, all those

624
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,640
versions of Roman, you would get, all the members of

625
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,720
the blood line, you would get his uncles, would get

626
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,000
Rakishi like. You would have all of these people unlocked.

627
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:08,279
If you got the Tribal Chief Edition that came automatically

628
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:12,039
with that Samoan Dynasty unlock you can get.

629
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: I can't remember. I saw a clip the other day

630
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,279
on Twitter. It was like Roman's cousin. I think it

631
00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:19,119
was like Lance Lenore or something like that, where he

632
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,559
wrestled Shane for one time in Shanter beat him up.

633
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:24,319
So yeah, lots of cousins he could do.

634
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:24,559
Speaker 2: So.

635
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:25,119
Speaker 3: Yeah.

636
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: So after the Roman Rains match and after the Rock,

637
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,920
we hear from a good friend of the Rock, John

638
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:36,759
Cena makes his way to the ring. It's probably the

639
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:39,960
worst kept secret that he was going to be making

640
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,200
an appearance here, you know, it's part of his farewell tour,

641
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,680
and in a shock to no one, he does his

642
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:49,240
little I don't know how much time I have left.

643
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,799
I don't know this. I want to win a Championship,

644
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:53,920
but I don't know if I can be on that

645
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,640
big stage.

646
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: If only there were a way I could get there.

647
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,359
Oh yeah, the Royal.

648
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,799
Speaker 1: Rumble is coming up, and he announces himself into the

649
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,519
Royal Rumble.

650
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I was because now obviously the big working

651
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,039
rumor is which you know, I'm wrong on some stuff

652
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,119
we'll talk about today. But I remember me and Daytablo this,

653
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,920
I said, Cody and Sena because they know the last episode.

654
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,039
You're like, I don't know if they should do it.

655
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:23,680
Months ago, I'm like, they that uber babyface Sean Taker,

656
00:33:23,799 --> 00:33:25,880
it's there and it seems like that's the way to go.

657
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:29,240
And I I would imagine if you're doing that, I

658
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,799
think you just have Seena win the rumble. I think

659
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:34,319
there would have been something fun where it's he tries

660
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:36,680
the Rumble, he loses, he tries the chamber, he loses,

661
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,119
and he has to get money in the bank. And

662
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,279
sure he'd win money bank in. But if they're going

663
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,680
that direction the way he set it up, he says

664
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,599
he hasn't won a match it over two thousand days,

665
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:48,119
so that is the way to get the win. I think. Obviously,

666
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,400
gunn Thro's opponents up in the air. There's been rumors

667
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,440
of rollins and rumors of Logan Paul. Paul winning the

668
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:57,519
Rumble is fucking nightmare one on one, and I feel

669
00:33:57,559 --> 00:33:59,440
like that would be such a Vince move. So I

670
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,799
don't know if you're he's like, oh, I'm gonna make

671
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:02,799
the old man a little happy watch this one. But

672
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:05,319
I just feel like that's a smart way to go.

673
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,199
Just have seen her win the rumble. Get him to Cody,

674
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,199
he can have the whole who could I face? He

675
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,840
could go because who is Cody? And Gun? Yeah, I

676
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,400
guess he could tease Gun there and even if they

677
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,519
wanted someone go Gun through. But I think he's I

678
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:20,480
know we're gonna do rumble predictions next episode, but I

679
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:22,360
do think he's I think he's winning the rumble. I

680
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,159
think the way they set up is how do I

681
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:25,079
get a shot while I got to win.

682
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:30,039
Speaker 2: I think it was pre locked in the draft.

683
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 4: You yeah, thats a good job.

684
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,599
Speaker 1: I definitely can can see that. And you know what,

685
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,159
that's that would be a good shout for them because

686
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:44,199
then you can promote WrestleMania his matchup WrestleMania as his

687
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,639
last WrestleMania match, and it is for a title like

688
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,039
that is a big promotional tool. And again, WrestleMania is

689
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:55,840
all about getting those casuals, in getting those people because

690
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,119
you already know the wrestling fan is gonna watch it.

691
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,199
You're promoting now for the casuals. So if you have

692
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,519
John Cena in a big marquee match, then I think

693
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:10,679
that's a perfect opportunity to do that. And at this

694
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,280
point I wouldn't be mad at it.

695
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:16,159
Speaker 4: I want your early gut predictions. We're so far away,

696
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,480
like three four months. Does he win or not?

697
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, he's in my heart or.

698
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: The title the title he beat? Does he let's say

699
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,119
it's specifically if it's Cody versus Scena, because Cody versus

700
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:32,719
Cena versus Gunther, I feel like that's more like sea

701
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,599
Like it's like, okay, it's just gun to. But Cody,

702
00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:37,079
this is the long rain. He's the new quarterback at

703
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:39,119
the Does he beat Cody? So David r.

704
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,599
Speaker 1: Versus Sena Sena wins, but it's it's not a clean

705
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:45,280
win there.

706
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,559
Speaker 3: Someone is gonna.

707
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: Cut he turns, slow blow, he does the Austin Fince

708
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:53,039
turn when triple h and then just beat the ship

709
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:55,480
out of Cody and he finally does it.

710
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: I think it would be a situation where someone costs Cody,

711
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,880
but it won't be uh it did. It won't be

712
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:04,280
like you know, the massive runands where Sina knows he

713
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,519
got help. I think it will be a situation where

714
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:10,239
they're just brawling and someone comes out takes out Cody,

715
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,239
and then that's how Sena overcomes.

716
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think, like, what aw wrestler can we

717
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:19,960
bring in the.

718
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 4: Oh, let's say, I mean Malachi Black did kick his

719
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:44,039
head off, So remember Malchi Black's first Yeah, it was

720
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:47,440
with Cody. Right now, here's my dream pitch that legitimly

721
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,199
would be full circle makes sense. Could you fucking imagine

722
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,239
they do the whole hoodie thing if that was MJF,

723
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:58,880
because the whole Cody and MJF thing that would be math.

724
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,239
I got chills right now.

725
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: That was laughing at this.

726
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: That's you're out of context, like standing over Cody at WrestleMania. Well,

727
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,719
Sina's confused with the title. No, see, I think it's

728
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,320
like they do. Remember I'm not sure have you ever

729
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,719
watched Rock and Sina one?

730
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:25,079
Speaker 2: Uh no?

731
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 4: But they know, yeah, what they did, they'll win. Sena

732
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,840
lost the match they had cole Vince made him hit

733
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,320
him over the head that Cena didn't lose the match.

734
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,159
It was like a football game where it's like the

735
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,039
Rock just happened to get last possession, like the Sina

736
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:42,760
ran out of time. It's like no hit with a

737
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,800
rock bombing, like yeah, you know, if you watch it,

738
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,000
it's like, oh, it's like the Rock got last possession.

739
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:49,679
They're just trying to make it seem like Sina got

740
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:52,159
swept up. I think they'll do the same thing where

741
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:55,400
Cody just got hit with one too many aas. And

742
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,039
I think that we've talked about this where I think

743
00:37:57,039 --> 00:38:00,599
there's a good possibility. I would love Drew I s

744
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:03,199
Bub's Pitch Drew winning King of the Ring SummerSlam of

745
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,880
Drew Sena and Drew beat Sena. I think it's awesome.

746
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,039
And then you can even get Cody to wrestle it,

747
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,000
because this is what I think. I think if Cody

748
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:14,800
loses to Sena, I think Cody will beat him again

749
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,800
later on before he retires. I don't think. I don't

750
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,800
think it's gonna be a one and done squash and

751
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,840
that's it. But I I don't know. I think Cody,

752
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,920
I think Sina's gonna win, because I also don't think

753
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,960
Cody would care about losing to Sina, like I don't

754
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,199
think that's like a it's like a you're losing the scene.

755
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,719
In his last year they were travel buddies. He always

756
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,400
praises him like that. I don't think it's that bad.

757
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,320
And I think he'd beat me in so I would

758
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,119
have my money on Sena winning.

759
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: So I think his reverence for Sena, plus his love

760
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,880
of the business, and then to know that someone that

761
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,639
your dad beat it with Rick Flair would have his

762
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,719
records beat. I think that that'd be just one more

763
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,519
notch for Cody to be like, yeah, no, go ahead,

764
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:56,440
get seventeen.

765
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah with us fully thought it through your guys' pitcher.

766
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:04,440
I like that idea.

767
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,079
Speaker 4: Along with Alisons are good.

768
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: I think it had to rank them play mj as

769
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:17,159
number one, then Malacha and then a clean finish to

770
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:18,239
the to the match.

771
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no one, There's no one else, because I

772
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,079
was trying to think of like there's no one elite

773
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:25,559
that makes sense. The Moxley thing you gotta say for

774
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:27,840
Seth and Roman, right, like what if he comes back,

775
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,599
which like hey, the way this death writer's angle's going,

776
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,880
not that I it sounds bad. I do want Moxley

777
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,199
to lay leave a w I've said this before because

778
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:39,639
I want him with the Shield Boys for a little bit.

779
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,159
And I think the way this death writer's angle's going,

780
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:43,960
I think it's gonna leave a bad taste in Tony

781
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,039
and Moxley's mouth. And then he's been like, you know what,

782
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:47,719
maybe it is just best I get out of here.

783
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,679
Moxley could also just wrestle for z CW for like

784
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,719
ten years and not do anything else, but uh, yeah,

785
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,400
it's interesting.

786
00:39:54,559 --> 00:40:00,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I he's declared, I think that it it's

787
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:03,119
going to be a good time having him in the

788
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:07,280
rumble no matter where he goes. So we transition out

789
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,960
of two old timers making their return to the current

790
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:14,719
and future of the biz. We have Lived Morgan with

791
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,719
Raquel Rodriguez and Dominic Mysterio versus.

792
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:19,559
Speaker 4: Those are the two future live in.

793
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:28,199
Speaker 1: Raquel and what was promoted as the last woman Standing

794
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,480
match that didn't really have the last woman's standing stipulation.

795
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: The people all got fooled by it, like people looked

796
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,159
it up, like like the the tweet that went around,

797
00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:41,679
it's like, oh, they just announced it on main event.

798
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,199
It was on the graphic and main event, and then

799
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,719
like three weeks later after everyone believed that someone checked

800
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,119
and it's like that was like someone just completely made

801
00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:51,360
it up and everyone believed it.

802
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,599
Speaker 4: Oh I never heard that all. I thought it was

803
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:54,599
just a w.

804
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: It was just like a date graphic. But it was

805
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,199
on main events, so no one not the check.

806
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: It even could imagine.

807
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: But they never mentioned on TV or anything like never

808
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:06,960
broke as the last woman's standing.

809
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think everything that I saw was like, oh,

810
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,519
we've got this last woman standing coming up and then nope.

811
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,599
Speaker 4: Do you imagine if they would have done the ending

812
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:17,639
because I said, like, oh, this last woman's standing, I

813
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:19,840
feel like Live's gonna win in the ending is like

814
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,360
Undertaker choke slamming Ria I helpfully get go in. But uh, yeah,

815
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,519
you know what. I think that for me, I was

816
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:30,280
always I always thought, I agree that Live is a

817
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,960
serviceable wrestler. She's a better character and probe than she

818
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:34,599
is in ring, right, But I still think she's good

819
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:36,199
and she's had like I don't know if I can

820
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,559
say a great match, but some pretty good matches. I

821
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:41,079
thought her and Rie at some point we're gonna have Oh,

822
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:43,280
this is the one that Hey, the angle was a

823
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,719
little long, but they really got us. I don't think

824
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,800
they had that here. I think the issue is I

825
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,639
think they need to They don't need to swap, but

826
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:51,559
I'm saying to have that great match, I think you

827
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,800
need to have Live as the baby and riheas the

828
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,960
heel to do the whole like underdog little wrestler with

829
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,400
gigantic big wrestler when Riea's the babyface against it. Just

830
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:04,400
it never clicked to the degree that I was hoping

831
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:06,079
in the ring. I still think. I know lots of

832
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,400
people hate the rain. I push against it because I

833
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,920
think it gave a lot of moments. I think I

834
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,760
will say that office I'm completely wrong because Live run

835
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,920
this won this even though or Live losses, even though

836
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,320
you know I did say that was the original plans.

837
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,159
I knew they were going that way. I just felt it.

838
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:23,280
But I think they did read the room. Okay, most

839
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,320
of the people are over this. I thought it was

840
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,000
like a It was a fine match. They did the

841
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:31,079
dom Andria moment, but I still think they should have

842
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,800
done that for in a bigger crowd. They should have

843
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,559
done it somewhere else. Now, but still they did that

844
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:39,599
and this was fun. The Undertaker moment was odd. It's

845
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:44,239
like Rhea, she doesn't like good for her. She enjoyed that,

846
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,000
but it's like she doesn't need that anymore. Like the

847
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,159
way he said she's the future, It's like she kind

848
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:50,159
of is, but she's not even now. She's like the present.

849
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:52,559
Like to me, the top three of this company is Roman, Cody,

850
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:55,360
and Her as far as like everything right, and it's

851
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,800
just it's odd. So I thought it was fine. And

852
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,360
I'll give s Bubbs's credit that so far. If you're

853
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,000
in the discord is uh, his theory might be right.

854
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,320
I still say that. I like I said, I think

855
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,280
Rio and EO. If we're going riah Ria and EO

856
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,519
and we go that way, it's gonna be great. I

857
00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:13,679
just want to see what the story is because I

858
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,559
just I worry if we got Cody and Sina's the

859
00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:19,679
Babyface Babyface match. If we have two of them, they'll

860
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:22,280
get lost in the shuffle and people will kind of

861
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,760
forget about it, but the match will be great. So yeah,

862
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,559
and yeah, and I would live. I don't know where

863
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:29,440
they go from there. I know people make all the

864
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:31,760
jokes with the tay Rope and the y at whatever thing.

865
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,079
Like I still think Triple H has plans for because

866
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:38,880
on the raw profile Netflix she there's only like seven icons.

867
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:41,920
She's one of them. And to me, like, if you

868
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,679
take what you've done with Live this whole year and

869
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,920
just kind of make our tag team wrestle again, that's

870
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:50,480
bad booker stuff. Because the wrestling fans may not, you

871
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:53,400
know whatever, enjoy lots of her work, but I feel

872
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,559
like in the mainstream she's like I just saw on

873
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:57,719
ET the other night where she's showing off her house

874
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,760
like it's whatever.

875
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: The solos code and it's like they gave him like

876
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,280
nineteen of pl e main events, but what's he gonna

877
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,400
do at Wrestlingia.

878
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing, And that's where for her,

879
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:12,039
I'm kind of hoping it's not the Wyats and it

880
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:15,280
is something moreth the US or Inner Cardinals something, because

881
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:17,840
I feel like they raised her stock a lot and

882
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,760
if you're just throw in a tag but yeah, we'll see.

883
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:25,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, this is out of the four matches,

884
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,119
this is the least of my least favorite of the

885
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:31,519
four matches, not saying it's a bad match, it was

886
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:32,559
just my least favorite.

887
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 3: It was very just.

888
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,039
Speaker 1: It was there.

889
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: It started itself with the ending.

890
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: I think that this could have been closed out and

891
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,760
done better on a bigger stage, but hey, they wanted

892
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:50,000
this for the Netflix debut, so they got it. Outside

893
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:53,320
of that, Yeah, you get through the match, Morgan does

894
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:59,159
thing real, ends up going over. Dom comes in, looks

895
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:02,800
like he's following the championship, like he has no allegiency

896
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:08,039
in the Honey I'm Home before Ripley gets him down

897
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:10,119
low and then follows up with the rip Tide.

898
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,639
Speaker 3: Everyone pops.

899
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: You knew everyone was gonna pop forward, and I think

900
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,199
that's really what they wanted from that.

901
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 3: That was a social media moment.

902
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,199
Speaker 1: That's something that they could put on their Twitter, on

903
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,880
their TikTok for however long it's left to say, here's

904
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,360
a clip of this, and then after that, yeah, Ripley celebrates.

905
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,840
We get the Undertaker as the American Badass comes out

906
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:37,400
takes a lap. It was odd the way that the

907
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,559
Undertaker came out, because she's just walking and all of

908
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:43,320
a sudden, Undertaker comes out, just drives right past her,

909
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,679
circles off and then pulls up to do the looks

910
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:47,159
at all right.

911
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: On three one, and she didn't need that rub.

912
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: She is a I can confidently say right now real

913
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,320
Ripley is a future WWE Hall of aimer, Like she

914
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:07,679
has solidified. Yeah, unless she just does something crazy, she

915
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,159
has already solidified herself. That so she didn't need the

916
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,519
rub from the Undertaker. You guys just want to have

917
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:13,639
an Undertaker moment.

918
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: And yes, it reminds me of when punked at the

919
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,079
podcast a long time ago with Coldcbana and the plan

920
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:24,199
was supposed to be him and Triple A Huk WrestleMania

921
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,960
and he said to Triple Ah, Chuck, I don't need

922
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,960
to wrestle you. You need to wrestle me, meaning like

923
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:30,320
you're not that relevant anymore. And that's how it felt

924
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,440
about opposite the Hogan thing, but the Taker thing too,

925
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,800
It's just like how do we get him on the show.

926
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,719
It's like, I don't know. Next time, just put him

927
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,719
beside his wife in the fucking crowd, you know, like

928
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,840
how the gong go off? That's good, like he did

929
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,280
not like I guess, yeah, he threw his fist up. Cool,

930
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,119
but it's just like I don't know, but yeah, that's fine.

931
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,639
Speaker 1: For the Undertaker. What they could have done just how

932
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:50,360
they had. Like you said, everyone in the crowd, they

933
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,719
could have been doing the crowd shots, boom, lights go out,

934
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,199
you hear the gong, lights come back on undertakers in

935
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,440
the crowd. He throws up the face like you could

936
00:46:59,480 --> 00:46:59,719
have just.

937
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 4: Had Cauli Culkin.

938
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, people would have. People would steal pop for the Undertaker,

939
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,559
despite what some people say about the reasons Hulk Hogan

940
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:10,280
got booed, Like, I don't think the Undertaker would have

941
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,320
got the massive booze at that he He would have

942
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,920
still got cheered in, but he didn't need to do

943
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:18,760
the He didn't need to take Rhea Ripley's moment.

944
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,639
Speaker 3: It may have been cool for her as.

945
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: Someone who's grown up watching wrestling buzz, and that it

946
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:23,519
wasn't needed.

947
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 4: And even that stuff asidecause I don't think we're talking

948
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,199
about much even Hogan. Take take the political stuff, take

949
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:30,960
the race stuff, which is all bad. It's not just

950
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,960
one event, there's several, but it's like he's from He's

951
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:36,239
at that point where when you and I were watching David,

952
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,639
it's like Buddy Rogers was like way beyond our era.

953
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,039
That's Hogan for a lot of like Hogan is so

954
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,320
far removed for the new people watching, like like haspots,

955
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,880
have you felt the need to go back and be

956
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,760
like I gotta watch a Hulk Hogan match. It just

957
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,760
feels like it's such a and I'll see with you

958
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,639
coming in, it's like you kind of okay, this guy's

959
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,679
like me, not the greatest anymore. I don't need to invest.

960
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,360
But I just feel like, you know, people don't want

961
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,880
to hear that for some of the old timers, but

962
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,840
there is a certain It's like Peel won't watch black

963
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,519
and white films. Like I feel like Hogan's at that

964
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:04,960
stage where it's like, eh, like that was eighties, I

965
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,360
don't care about that. Here Undertaker is still in that Hey,

966
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,039
he retired only what like five years ago or something

967
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:15,360
like he was still around with this generation or people upcoming.

968
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:19,679
He's still doing stuff that was like relevant to the product,

969
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,360
like his documentary Hogan. It's like there's nothing, there's nothing

970
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,639
more to do, like when he's there to promote his beer.

971
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,400
That's the other thing too, it's like he's not there

972
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,760
to be like I don't know the GM of raw.

973
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,239
It's like, oh, and I team a macho man, and

974
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,320
like he has a real American. Just that's the thing

975
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,960
where Undertakers he's still relevant, Hogan's not anymore.

976
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:40,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Undertaker is gonna gonna get his pops. He's gonna

977
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:44,320
get when it comes to Undertaker and politics or whatever.

978
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:47,159
For me, that is he is one who falls into

979
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,559
separating the art from the artists. And I can do

980
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:53,280
that with the Undertaker because there's not all that extra stuff.

981
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:56,119
This just wasn't needed. You could have had him there,

982
00:48:56,159 --> 00:48:57,320
you could have had him in a moment, you could have

983
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,679
had him in a backstage moment with Triple Ah and

984
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,760
that had just been fine, Like, but we didn't need

985
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,400
this teasing a Mania match.

986
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,079
Speaker 2: Like Dave Meltzer when he saw the backstage segment that

987
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:14,920
he thought it was the remember that was the Rock

988
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,840
in Tripleation, he misremembering segments ago like ten years ago,

989
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,800
and he's like, they're clearly setting up a WrestleMania match.

990
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I suppose you can take your lap now.

991
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,039
You For a while, we're saying it was losing the

992
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:31,519
Netflix and no, it's not gonna happen.

993
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: But I finally convinced you might by saying that it

994
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,199
wasn't a last one's standing match.

995
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was that. I was like, oh, there's

996
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,159
some wiggle room, but no, it was it's over.

997
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,519
Speaker 2: So but yeah, the match it, Sophie, I liked it.

998
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,519
I wouldn't say it was my least favorite match up theirs.

999
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,800
I'd say my least fair. There's probably the Bad Blood

1000
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,440
one just because the ending was like completely botched. But

1001
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,559
I definitely like the Summer Slam one and definitely with

1002
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:02,360
the ending of the Thummer Slow one. So this was

1003
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,239
just like, uh, it was good. I mean, had everything

1004
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,719
you kind of expected it was gonna happen with the

1005
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,559
interference and uh you know they they let Live kick

1006
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:16,239
out of the the rip side and stuff, but uh, overall, yeah.

1007
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: I almost thought for a second when she kicked out,

1008
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,440
I was like, oh my god, there's a chance.

1009
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, but uh yeah it was what I expected.

1010
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,000
But it was still good.

1011
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. So again it went to a semi predictable ending

1012
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:36,360
for me with everything. They got their pops out the

1013
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,480
way and we went on. After that, we get a

1014
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:43,760
quick segment with Jackie Redman in the back talking with

1015
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,199
the Miz and carrying cross.

1016
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 3: They say we're gonna go after the why six miss.

1017
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: I didn't get that at all on my on my stream.

1018
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, uh, I'm not about this life. I

1019
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,320
don't want to do this. Karen krosslick you face, John Cena.

1020
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,400
You can take on the White Six. Let's go.

1021
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,079
Speaker 4: And they already beat the Wyatt six. That's what I

1022
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:11,880
don't understand with this whole storyline.

1023
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,199
Speaker 1: They beat the y I don't understand anything with Karen

1024
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:20,119
crossed the storylines. He is just there, so it makes

1025
00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:22,360
no sense. But I guess on a future episode we

1026
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,639
are going to get the final testament in the Miz

1027
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,239
versus the Wyat six.

1028
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,079
Speaker 4: Again, David, were you watching on the American Netflix? We're

1029
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:33,119
using a VPN.

1030
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: I was using a VPN because I.

1031
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 4: Won't That's why you didn't.

1032
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,199
Speaker 1: I wanted to see what the I started off on

1033
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,880
the American version and then I switched over to my

1034
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:48,000
other computer to see the different version because I was

1035
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,880
seeing through the internet. They're like, oh, we have different stuff.

1036
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,559
I'm like, well, I don't want to see stupid commercials

1037
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:57,719
or the same watch this on Netflix because I'm already

1038
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,599
watching Netflix. I don't need to see a commercial for

1039
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:03,599
whyou watch Netflix while I'm watching Netflix. So that's when

1040
00:52:03,639 --> 00:52:04,360
I switched over.

1041
00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:09,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the only backstage segments that got in the

1042
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,760
American version was like the quick New Day one with

1043
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:22,320
like the comedian guy and Fluffy Bluffy. Yeah, that one

1044
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:25,960
and the Chad Gable one where he looked for a

1045
00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:28,639
luchador and then those are like the only two backstage

1046
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:31,000
segments in the American feed.

1047
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:39,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. After this, we go to jo Versus Drew McIntyre.

1048
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:42,840
Jason Usso has quite the entrance.

1049
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,079
Speaker 3: With a little bit of.

1050
00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:50,679
Speaker 1: Even though he is wearing blue and fuchave, there was

1051
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,719
a lot of green in his entrance, picking up on

1052
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:54,800
foot down.

1053
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: Him and Travis.

1054
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: He made his intro with Travis Scott, who came out

1055
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:07,239
with his new Hardcore Championship. And I did not know

1056
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,840
that you could well, I knew it was legal in California.

1057
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,239
I did not know that you could publicly smoke in

1058
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,360
the middle of an arena while making your entrance. That

1059
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,199
is from everything that I hear. Travis Scott did that

1060
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,559
on his own. That was not scripted, but it was

1061
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:26,480
steel and Jay So even said afterwards, he goes, I

1062
00:53:26,519 --> 00:53:29,320
didn't partake, I smelled, but I didn't inhale.

1063
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 4: So I think my favorite thing.

1064
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 2: Did you guys notice what title is destroyed to create

1065
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,800
the new Hardcore Championship. Is it the Red Universe, the

1066
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:44,400
Red Universal title?

1067
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 4: Ugly ugly fruit roll up belt.

1068
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 2: I think I think that's the the joke of why

1069
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,800
they picked that one destroyers.

1070
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: And it's just smashed with duct tape like it's Yeah,

1071
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:02,760
it is so such a horrible title that again, sometimes

1072
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,360
they just like give him famous people titles. It is

1073
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,360
what it is, but they come out it's not like

1074
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,159
a recognized title.

1075
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, let Matchdruzenegger's HBO title, which was a modification of

1076
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:22,679
the globe WW title. Right.

1077
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, people just get there their famous titles. They

1078
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,519
like that recognition, same reason that they give them their

1079
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:31,000
sports teams and everything else.

1080
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,519
Speaker 4: Do uh do Tras Scott Logan, Paul and bad bunny

1081
00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:40,760
Mania for the Hardcourt Champion? Yeah, and then have I

1082
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,639
don't know somebody that's where Taker can referee. He can

1083
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,639
be a ref But the best thing of the wee

1084
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,840
thing is I like that Drew tweeted out after that

1085
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,360
he had a contact high so that's why he lost

1086
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,800
the match. I thought this was fine. It was like

1087
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,880
a just like a regular raw match. It's not the

1088
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,719
biggest deal because they made it like a role he stolen.

1089
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,000
But I don't like Drew losing Right now.

1090
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:10,039
Speaker 2: I was listening to the Wrestle Purists stream and I boo,

1091
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:13,079
what's talking about that? He said he couldn't fully report

1092
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:16,239
it since it was mostly off the record types of way.

1093
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:21,280
Said he heard it's a certain either a tribal chief

1094
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,559
or a final boss. Looked at this card and said,

1095
00:55:23,559 --> 00:55:25,559
why did Jay used to losing? We can't have that.

1096
00:55:26,599 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah, I just yeah, I especially you've sent

1097
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:34,159
h up to be the bloodline hunter. He took down

1098
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,920
Jimmy and then he goes for Jay and like that,

1099
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,000
I guess you got Sammy right, because I got Sammy.

1100
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,320
But like, still just it feels like an inevitable, like

1101
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,039
pushing it down the road. But now I also feel

1102
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:45,519
like especially.

1103
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,199
Speaker 2: A Roman being like, you're not facing me at Mania.

1104
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 4: That's what I not even Mania, because I remember we

1105
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,079
had heard those rumors. I think we discussed on one

1106
00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:57,079
of the last episodes I was on. I was like, oh,

1107
00:55:57,159 --> 00:55:59,280
Drew and Roman, there's tons of story there. They should

1108
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,360
do that. But I said, like that to me has

1109
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,119
to be a Summer Slam money bag. That can't be

1110
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,639
just like a bad blood that should be a big one,

1111
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,719
and to me this felt like, yeah, True's not getting

1112
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,599
to Roman anytime soon, and that kind of sucks. And

1113
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,039
same thing with the Kevin and Roman thing. It just

1114
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:17,320
feels like they have or the Kevin and Ko, the

1115
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:20,159
Ko and Drew thing, they had such just hatred for Roman,

1116
00:56:20,559 --> 00:56:23,519
but Roman's like, ah, yeah, whatever, I'm gonna go do

1117
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:25,599
this now and do this now. I could just that's

1118
00:56:25,679 --> 00:56:27,840
the the things that do suck that he is so

1119
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:30,199
kind of isolated. But I thought this match was that

1120
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:30,599
was good.

1121
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was.

1122
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't great. I mean it was a if this

1123
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:41,880
was the main event of a regular raw. I could

1124
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,159
definitely see this being the main event of a regular raw.

1125
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,519
Like it was a good match that he had some

1126
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:52,960
good back and forth. The commentary for this match was

1127
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:56,840
all over the place, but in a fun way. I

1128
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:02,000
love Pat McAfee when he is doing Jay's entrance. I

1129
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:03,679
love the fact that Michael Cole got up there and

1130
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,280
then his watch alerted him that he might have fallen

1131
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:10,400
because he got so far into it. So that helps

1132
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,639
make these matches. But yeah, it was just it was

1133
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,320
a good normal raw main event, but it wasn't. Again

1134
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,840
for the big raw spectacular that this is supposed to

1135
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,960
be the match just to me didn't live up.

1136
00:57:26,639 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like definitely like you said it was.

1137
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,920
It was like, well, it's like it was a raw

1138
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:39,440
match on the NIA type of show. But yeah, I'd

1139
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,760
say overall it was like.

1140
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 4: That apparently on these big events really show up for.

1141
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:53,679
Speaker 2: Some reason unless they're they're together, and they're.

1142
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,679
Speaker 4: Together, you know Five Star Classic, you know, separately.

1143
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,559
Speaker 1: The main event. Jay Uso in the semi main event

1144
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:03,719
gets is win and we will see where both these

1145
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,039
gentlemen go from here, how far this whole bloodline Hunter

1146
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,559
storyline goes now that he just took this loss?

1147
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 4: Was bro bron Breaker was in the crowd, right, I think? Okay, okay,

1148
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:19,280
that's all I had.

1149
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: But what was the like, what was the reason for asking?

1150
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:27,039
Speaker 4: I just because I because we're ad about Jay and Braun?

1151
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:28,760
I was like, why was Braun not on this show?

1152
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:29,840
Because I know a lot of you have the problem

1153
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,599
with great. I guess he was in the crowd, so

1154
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:34,679
he was there, but just even this week coming up,

1155
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,320
maybe he has like an easy squash match or something.

1156
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,000
But we there was nothing announced. I know, we got

1157
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:41,119
Seamus and Ludwig for the thousand times.

1158
00:58:41,039 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: I still got Braun versus Jeamis at Wrestlingannia locked in.

1159
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 4: Yeah Braun, oh okay breaker and I'm like, why are

1160
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,559
you fucking that? Why? Yeah? Okay, now I'm down for that.

1161
00:58:56,679 --> 00:58:57,039
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1162
00:58:57,079 --> 00:59:02,239
Speaker 1: So at this point, what we should have had was

1163
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,920
your World heavyweight Champion Gunta live and in person, but

1164
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:11,360
instead what we got was Hulk Cogan and Jimmy Hart

1165
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:16,480
appearing so that he can promote his beer. I have

1166
00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:19,480
a lot to say about this, so I will go

1167
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,519
last on all that I have to say about this,

1168
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,800
just because of how much as a biracial person who

1169
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,440
grew up in an African American household, this whose grandfather

1170
00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:35,960
is the one who got him into wrestling, because of

1171
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,400
his love of these people, I will go last on

1172
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,480
my comments and I will let you guys say whatever

1173
00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:44,320
you want to say about this segment.

1174
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 4: First, I'll just say it was great for the crowd,

1175
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,239
so big shout out to the LA crowd for representing

1176
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,280
because I love I said this earlier, but most people

1177
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,559
when they start doing the like and I was, I

1178
00:59:56,719 --> 00:59:59,480
thought Undertaker and I thought matchra Man, the crowd usually

1179
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,760
turns its Yeah. I like those guys even this like

1180
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,719
boo no. So I'm happy the crowd didn't take the bait.

1181
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,920
I hope w's kind of done with this. Put him

1182
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,719
in pre tape stuff, sell the beer on the side, whatever,

1183
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,400
even if it sells, well, do your thing. We don't

1184
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,000
need I don't have time for Hull Kong right now

1185
01:00:18,679 --> 01:00:21,559
in general. But yeah, shout out to l a crowd

1186
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:24,199
for representing I hope it is the last time I

1187
01:00:24,239 --> 01:00:26,920
know he's on the Saturday night's main events like promos.

1188
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:31,159
But I just you know, I'm like, I don't need

1189
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:33,199
there also be an angle from this going home. It's

1190
01:00:33,199 --> 01:00:34,800
just like, let's take this go. You know what, we

1191
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,639
learned a lesson. Let's move on.

1192
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'll say the thing a lot is people

1193
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,280
hate Hogan so much that even and I've looked at it,

1194
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,320
if you go to WrestleMania thirty seven, I think it is,

1195
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,880
and they're bringing out the whole nWo for the Hall

1196
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,400
of Fame at Wrestling in Tampa. So Hogan's hometown and

1197
01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:58,920
their whole MWO is out there, and the second Hogan

1198
01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:01,920
walks out, they just booing in like crazy. And that's

1199
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:05,079
at wrestling in Tampa and the whole rest of the

1200
01:01:05,159 --> 01:01:08,960
NW are there too, but they're just booing Hogan over everybody.

1201
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:13,079
So I feel like, yeah, I don't think hopefully it

1202
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:15,800
doesn't show up or they don't put him in front

1203
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,920
of a crowd again or at all on TV really

1204
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,679
would be the optim option. But yeah, it was paper.

1205
01:01:23,719 --> 01:01:26,039
It did sound like a good idea and an execution

1206
01:01:26,239 --> 01:01:27,280
it definitely.

1207
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 4: Wasn't and like next to like raws on Netflix that

1208
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,880
got the most like mainstream press like CNN talked about it,

1209
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,960
Fox News talked about it, variety like for I share

1210
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,320
an article fighting like I don't remember last I saw

1211
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,519
a Variety report, Wrestling News, other them like oh seth

1212
01:01:42,639 --> 01:01:44,559
Rawlins is gonna be in Captain America, which is knowing

1213
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:47,320
more but like that was that was like the big

1214
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,639
takeaway from it.

1215
01:01:48,679 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: So it was it was those were most talking about.

1216
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nikki Pella was almost talked about things.

1217
01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: All right, So Hulk Coogan deserved every piece of boo

1218
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,280
that he got And I am so thankful for the

1219
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,519
city of Los Angeles and the into a dome for this.

1220
01:02:10,119 --> 01:02:12,840
A lot of people have stated that this is because

1221
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:18,559
of politics and because of his outward support of incoming

1222
01:02:18,599 --> 01:02:23,920
President Donald Trump and his appearing at Republican National Convention

1223
01:02:24,239 --> 01:02:28,599
and things like that. This had absolutely zero to do

1224
01:02:28,719 --> 01:02:34,000
with that. This was an entire building showing that they

1225
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:39,480
do not stand or hate when it comes to politics.

1226
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,960
There are a lot of people within WWE that are

1227
01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:45,960
right leaning, there are some that are left leaning. Their

1228
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,920
politics are all over the board. Again, situation with the Undertaker,

1229
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,880
I would say that it is pretty safe to say

1230
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,920
that trip H and Stephanie are right leaning just because

1231
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,320
of some appearances that they have made in some people

1232
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,960
that they have with. That is not the issue. The

1233
01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:08,840
issue is this Hulkkin has displayed a history of racism

1234
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:14,639
and a complete lack of empathy, care and understanding. He

1235
01:03:14,719 --> 01:03:18,559
had a situation where he was on tape telling his

1236
01:03:18,639 --> 01:03:21,840
daughter that he did not want her to date anyone

1237
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,480
at that he referred to using a racial slur with

1238
01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:28,920
a hard R. When this tape came out and he

1239
01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:32,199
was asked to speak to some of his colleagues in WWE,

1240
01:03:32,519 --> 01:03:36,239
his response to them was, I am sorry that that

1241
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,960
tape leaked. There was no accountability and responsibility for that.

1242
01:03:43,159 --> 01:03:45,920
It continues on to win. His son got into an

1243
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,840
accident that resulted in the death of some people, and

1244
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,480
he spoke to his son and he was recorded on

1245
01:03:52,599 --> 01:03:57,039
a line as most Jelsen prisons do, saying that he

1246
01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:00,920
did not want his family to be reincarnated as black people.

1247
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:05,599
As a result of their actions, there has been numerous

1248
01:04:05,639 --> 01:04:11,800
reports from African American and other wrestlers of different descents,

1249
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:16,280
both black and brown, that Hogan outright refused to do

1250
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,159
jobs for them. The famous moniker of that doesn't work

1251
01:04:20,159 --> 01:04:23,320
for me. Brother was very prevalent in who he would

1252
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:27,159
put over, including at one point telling Booker t that

1253
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:32,599
the time just wasn't right for you. Mark Henry offered

1254
01:04:32,639 --> 01:04:36,840
to take ho Cogan around two different HBCUs, which are

1255
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:42,400
in the United States historically black colleges and universities, take

1256
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,800
him around to those to have talks with young African

1257
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:51,559
American males to learn and get perspective, to which Hogan

1258
01:04:51,679 --> 01:04:54,679
said he really didn't feel like he needed to. He

1259
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,440
knows all that he needs to know. So again, this

1260
01:04:58,519 --> 01:05:04,599
is not about politics. This was an entire stadium making

1261
01:05:04,639 --> 01:05:08,800
a stand for what they felt was right, and I

1262
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,840
absolutely applaud them. If you follow me on Twitter, you know,

1263
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,039
for the last six months, once a week I tweet

1264
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:19,480
the exact same thing, and I will continue to tweet

1265
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,920
that exact same thing. Hok Hogan is a racist. You

1266
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,719
can love him for the work that he put in.

1267
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,960
You can cherish the memories you had. I cherish the

1268
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,440
memories of me sitting in a room with my grandfather

1269
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:38,199
on Saturday nights and watching WCW. Those are memories that

1270
01:05:38,239 --> 01:05:42,360
I will always cherish. I will cherish the fact that

1271
01:05:42,519 --> 01:05:45,000
the first pay per view that my grandfather bought us

1272
01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:48,880
to watch together was WCW Bash at the Beach. I

1273
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,840
got to see the Hogan turn for myself. I will

1274
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:59,679
always cherish those memories. But I will not condone racist acts,

1275
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,960
and LA made it very much apparent that neither will they,

1276
01:06:04,159 --> 01:06:07,360
and I applaud them for it. That is my soapbox.

1277
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:15,639
Speaker 4: Now tell me how you really feel, are you? Oh boy? Yeah,

1278
01:06:15,719 --> 01:06:18,599
let's just hope it's done in the future. But uh no,

1279
01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:20,599
I agree with everything. But I hope it's I hope.

1280
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,719
I just hope it's not other thing that has to

1281
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,679
come up again. But yeah, we'll see.

1282
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,519
Speaker 1: I hope that someone higher up doesn't listen to the

1283
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,719
Oh well, you know, any heat is good heat, you know,

1284
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,760
if they're having a reaction that means something. This is

1285
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,000
not one of those occasions. This is not dom Mysterio,

1286
01:06:39,159 --> 01:06:42,800
This is not Logan Paul. Like people want to see

1287
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,840
Logan Paul get his comeuppins, but it's not for those

1288
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,559
same reasons. Yeah, he's kind of a jackass at times,

1289
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:52,840
but it's not that people want to see Dominique get beat.

1290
01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:56,519
They wanted to see Rhea Ripley give him her finish,

1291
01:06:56,639 --> 01:06:59,719
or they wanted that pop because of his character. This

1292
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,599
is not that. This is you have been against us

1293
01:07:04,639 --> 01:07:07,599
as a people in a society. We do not want

1294
01:07:07,639 --> 01:07:10,000
to see you on our TVs in any way, shape

1295
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:12,559
or form, even if it is you getting put to

1296
01:07:12,599 --> 01:07:15,280
a table. I would just rather not see you.

1297
01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:22,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, And on that note, we then move

1298
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:28,400
into our final match of the night, the main event,

1299
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:33,039
the match that everyone's been waiting for, the blood feud

1300
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,880
of seeing Punk versus seth Rawlins.

1301
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 1: What people were predicting was going to be a match

1302
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,599
in last year's WrestleMania, and then people were predicting what

1303
01:07:41,679 --> 01:07:44,199
was going to be a match in this year's WrestleMania.

1304
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:49,920
We got it on the raw Netflix debut, and they delivered.

1305
01:07:50,159 --> 01:07:55,760
They They put on a match. I mean it's rare

1306
01:07:56,119 --> 01:07:59,639
that you will see Rawlins put on a bad match,

1307
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,920
see them Punk is the self professed best in the world,

1308
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,880
so I expected these two deliver. And I will say

1309
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,239
that given everything that I know about Rowlins and how

1310
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:17,000
he feels about seeing Punk, that is the most professional

1311
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:22,279
of professional wrestlers on Earth, that he was able to

1312
01:08:22,359 --> 01:08:25,239
do what he did and do the job at the end.

1313
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:29,600
So close to you, Rowlins, you deserve all the accolades

1314
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:30,359
for that.

1315
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:37,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to talk to Seph Rowlins in

1316
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:39,399
a room because also we know he doesn't like Punk.

1317
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:41,880
But I just feel like there's even situations where we're here,

1318
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,880
like iues, let's talk about romans, like oh, Jay, so

1319
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,239
shouldn't we lose night. It's just like U, there's a

1320
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:49,279
time I guess the politic time to nod. I just

1321
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:52,359
can't believe. I thought, you can go back when we

1322
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,199
did the big like the gimmick before the giming, when

1323
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:57,560
we did the Survivor series watchlong and we are on

1324
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,560
air when the rawlinsy happened, So we talked about that

1325
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,640
and everything, and I always said, like, yeah, that gets

1326
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,000
his restume. But like Rowlands has to win that like,

1327
01:09:05,079 --> 01:09:08,039
to me, Rawlins has always had to win. Now, granted,

1328
01:09:08,119 --> 01:09:11,600
I'm gonna plead the fifth because Triple H, both Rowlands

1329
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,399
and Punk were trying to me in k fabe, yeah

1330
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,279
I think we're done, and Triple A's like, oh, I

1331
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:17,479
think this is the beginning, Like you totally gave away. Oh okay,

1332
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:20,640
we're gonna get more if for some reason they got

1333
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,920
some big deal of Hey, let's say Punk wins the

1334
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,319
title and Seth beats him for it. If they do

1335
01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:29,000
the trilogy, and I think, to me, Seth doesn't win

1336
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:31,680
the trilogy, that's crazy. That's why I'll wait and see,

1337
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,800
because maybe that's the thing is Seth Rawlins goes to

1338
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,399
the next two to oh some big decisive wins. I

1339
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,840
thought they had great chemistry. That's no surprise they did

1340
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,600
in twenty fourteen. They're both more mature now, but like

1341
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:43,920
very good chemistry. I think I might get a four

1342
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,159
point five. It didn't get exactly to the fly to be.

1343
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:49,520
I want to rewatch it, but there's just something, maybe

1344
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,399
a little more I needed, maybe a little longer. Even

1345
01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:54,520
though it was the last matches, the main event, I

1346
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,079
think it went like twenty some Mitch, but I don't know.

1347
01:09:56,119 --> 01:09:58,159
I just felt like there's a little more kind of

1348
01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:00,319
felt like the first Dru and Punk match, where like, okay,

1349
01:10:00,319 --> 01:10:01,720
there's a little more and they got there. I don't

1350
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,039
think it needs to be in the cell, but uh yeah,

1351
01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:07,239
I can't believe if what they do in the future

1352
01:10:07,239 --> 01:10:11,000
that Rollins, uh you know, he's looking up at the

1353
01:10:11,079 --> 01:10:13,800
lights and I'm I'm just surprised, and I just feel like,

1354
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,279
and David, I'll ask you because they'll come back to you,

1355
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:18,000
because I'll talk and then I supposed to talk to

1356
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,199
May you can tell me. I don't know if there's

1357
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:24,640
anybody in the history of WW and I could be wrong.

1358
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,119
Maybe it's Macho man, but I don't even know if

1359
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:29,319
Monchell carried as much like he did to extent, but

1360
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,960
like there's somebody like I don't know if there's anyone

1361
01:10:34,079 --> 01:10:37,399
like Rowlins where Punk was Rollins but then he left

1362
01:10:37,399 --> 01:10:39,319
once he had enough bad booking or on bad book

1363
01:10:39,399 --> 01:10:41,199
just like felt like he is always the guy that's

1364
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:43,199
gonna lose these big matches. He left and now here

1365
01:10:43,239 --> 01:10:45,840
we are. I felt like, maybe it's like Brett Harp,

1366
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,840
But even Brett Harp multiple times was like the guy

1367
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,359
at WrestleMania, right, Like I'm always being like, when is

1368
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,600
Seth Like he like he was to be the MVP

1369
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,119
of last WrestleMania. He did so much, he carried a lot,

1370
01:10:56,319 --> 01:11:00,920
and I just feel like for Mania, there's even Rivers

1371
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,359
and Gun there. It's like that that's fine, but we

1372
01:11:03,399 --> 01:11:05,600
all know he's gonna lose that. I just don't know

1373
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,479
if somebody that has always been at the top but

1374
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,439
has never ever really got a chance to be the

1375
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,600
guy at all. Like it's just like at Mania when

1376
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,439
he cashed in, he was not the main event, just

1377
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,600
in the tag match last year because Punk was hurt. Right,

1378
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,439
It wasn't that, you know, I hate to do the

1379
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,159
rock promo, but it is that like what Seth Rollins

1380
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:25,800
doing at Netflix, Like they didn't put Seth in there

1381
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,079
because like, oh we need to have Seth in the

1382
01:11:28,079 --> 01:11:29,960
main man. It was like who goes best with Cody?

1383
01:11:30,079 --> 01:11:32,520
Right Yeah? And it's just like I'm not saying the

1384
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,399
dude should pack up and go to TK and cash in,

1385
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,680
but it's just like I feel like he's got to

1386
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,319
do something because all these big moments, he's all like

1387
01:11:40,359 --> 01:11:42,039
he's gone any big moments, Don't get me wrong, he's

1388
01:11:42,039 --> 01:11:44,439
won the Rumble, he'd beat Brock once. But just like

1389
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:48,279
the tippy Top moments and just even stuff like this

1390
01:11:48,399 --> 01:11:50,920
where it's just like, even if you're gonna do a trilogy,

1391
01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:53,680
and I guess because like Punk's gonnaverse Roman, right, And

1392
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,319
that's when I asked you guys in the discord. It's like,

1393
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,439
if Punk or Roman does not win the world titled

1394
01:11:59,239 --> 01:12:03,079
other than Bam Bam Bigelow versus l T. Taylor, or

1395
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,000
am I screwing up Lawrence Taylor? Yeah, okay, Lawrence Taylor,

1396
01:12:07,159 --> 01:12:10,439
which was like a special attraction. There's never been a

1397
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:16,279
solo single wrestling match that wasn't a big return, a retirement,

1398
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,720
or a title So title matches obviously retirement like you know,

1399
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,439
Shawn Michaels, what we thought Taker and Rome was, or

1400
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,960
a return where it's like oh, stone cold Kevin Owens, Right,

1401
01:12:25,119 --> 01:12:28,199
It's always there's some gimmick. Thet if I was wrong,

1402
01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:30,279
it is the fact that Punk and Roman main event

1403
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:33,079
WrestleMania and it's just because well they want to fight,

1404
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,640
I would be fucking livid because I'd be like, why

1405
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,800
is it? Because I'd understand if you go to Triple A,

1406
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,840
say hey, why isn't I'm in the main event. They go, oh, well,

1407
01:12:41,079 --> 01:12:44,920
we're gonna have Punk BEATU counther Gunther, We're gonna we're

1408
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,359
gonna have a beat Gunther and we're gonna have Roman

1409
01:12:47,399 --> 01:12:48,920
win the rumble and we want to do this title

1410
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,800
And you go, okay, I get that that's a big

1411
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,359
title match. But if Roman and Punk main event, and

1412
01:12:53,359 --> 01:12:56,000
I'm fine with that. I wasn't. On last episode when

1413
01:12:56,039 --> 01:12:58,039
you guys were talking about it. I was the one

1414
01:12:58,079 --> 01:13:01,159
that said you should do Punk over a Punk and

1415
01:13:01,279 --> 01:13:04,359
Roman over Rawlins and Punk. But I did not think

1416
01:13:04,399 --> 01:13:06,319
it would come to the extent of Rawlins. I thought

1417
01:13:06,359 --> 01:13:09,000
they would just kick Rolins down the way, like, oh,

1418
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,920
we'll get to another time. The fact that they had

1419
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,279
Punk and I'm Punk's in my top three, the fact

1420
01:13:13,279 --> 01:13:16,439
that they had Punk go over clean on Rawlins, I'm like,

1421
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,279
this man must be livid. And that's why if it's

1422
01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:21,319
just Punk and Roman, to me, it makes no sense.

1423
01:13:21,399 --> 01:13:24,079
I'm down because the aura is gonna be off the charts,

1424
01:13:24,119 --> 01:13:27,560
It's gonna be fantastic. But from a kf A point

1425
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,680
of view, how is it the main event? And from

1426
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,399
seth Rawlins as a professional, how does he cope with like,

1427
01:13:34,399 --> 01:13:36,479
like because you could just make the case me and

1428
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,119
like him and Punk, they had great promos. People love

1429
01:13:39,159 --> 01:13:41,560
the match, they love the build. Why aren't I the

1430
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,600
main event of night want to WrestleMania. So I thought, like,

1431
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,960
to me, it's so interesting of the match was great.

1432
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,840
They had such good chemistry. I'm like, I do want

1433
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,279
to see more of this than I think we'll get it.

1434
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,479
But I'm just so curious about the Rawlins Roman Punk

1435
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,680
of it all. And I think Rawlins is the first

1436
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,760
time ever where there's been someone this loyal that's always

1437
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,399
been close to the top and still it's never left.

1438
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,239
And like I said, I can't think of who it

1439
01:14:03,279 --> 01:14:05,760
would be. Maybe someone can tell me, because there's people,

1440
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,079
but I feel like they either leave or unfortunately they

1441
01:14:08,119 --> 01:14:10,640
pass away, or they went to w CW. Like there's

1442
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,960
all this stuff, and I just it's it's a fascinating

1443
01:14:14,119 --> 01:14:17,840
situation and like especially to jump to like let's say

1444
01:14:18,039 --> 01:14:23,479
Gunther does Verse Logan Paul WrestleMania, Like I don't think so, right,

1445
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,520
but it's just like even gun then Rolland's like it's

1446
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,760
just like that's a good match, But I just I

1447
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,920
don't know the man I know. I watch this Chris

1448
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,199
Vanfleet interview and he says he puts the company a

1449
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:35,760
lot before himself. But I think he's got to stop now,

1450
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,720
he's he's got to start. I don't know. And maybe

1451
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,800
they don't care about him that much, you know, maybe

1452
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,880
they would, I hate to say it, maybe they would say, hey,

1453
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,359
go to aa W because and I don't think he will.

1454
01:14:47,399 --> 01:14:49,960
He's a lifer. But I just like, maybe, like is

1455
01:14:50,039 --> 01:14:52,720
Rawlins if he left WW a big deal. I don't know.

1456
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,640
And that's where my last one is. I agree with

1457
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,399
what Punk said the press to where I think it's

1458
01:14:56,399 --> 01:15:00,279
the sef fricing Rollins as the costumes. Like, I think

1459
01:15:00,319 --> 01:15:02,439
there is too much of a character stuff that people

1460
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,479
don't believe in the guy Seth Rawlins. He's a great

1461
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,640
wrestling character, but people believe in see him Punk. People

1462
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,479
believe in the Tribal Chief in the aura, he has

1463
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,000
some of the war criminals.

1464
01:15:13,119 --> 01:15:18,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, curss Roman main events, it's already gone on thirty

1465
01:15:18,159 --> 01:15:21,960
five minutes. Then Seth and All Black runs out, stomps

1466
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:26,039
both them. Main event ends in double DQ's the biggest

1467
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:27,680
game right there.

1468
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's what you got. You gotta turm Heel.

1469
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,079
But yeah, the matchup, that was great. I think there

1470
01:15:33,159 --> 01:15:34,720
is a five star in there. I don't think this

1471
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,399
was it, like I said, IM four point five. But

1472
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,079
uh yeah, it's been a fascinating couple of months to

1473
01:15:39,119 --> 01:15:40,279
watch this all go down.

1474
01:15:40,359 --> 01:15:44,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, I can't think of anyone who

1475
01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:49,439
has stayed with a company so long. Even with Macho Man.

1476
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,439
He got demoted to ring announcing because Vince felt he

1477
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,920
was too old, and then he went to they left.

1478
01:15:57,119 --> 01:15:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like, fuck this, I'm out of here. I

1479
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:00,640
don't want to be commentator.

1480
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,319
Speaker 1: He did his thing. You know, everyone has jumped ship

1481
01:16:04,399 --> 01:16:07,760
in some way, somehow, even before AW came back. I

1482
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,720
mean people were jumping ship, even aj Styles with TNA

1483
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,079
when it was like, look, if you guys are gonna

1484
01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:16,479
keep bringing in all these other people, then fine, I'm

1485
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,760
gonna go to Roh, I'm gonna go to New Japan.

1486
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,359
I'm gonna go test myself somewhere else. Like everyone leaves.

1487
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:26,159
And he said in his interview with Chris Family that

1488
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,479
he doesn't feel like he's ever been given the ball.

1489
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,720
He's had to work for it, He's had to show

1490
01:16:32,039 --> 01:16:34,600
his worth every time. But he's had these people who

1491
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,319
have come in and have been given the ball, and yeah,

1492
01:16:37,359 --> 01:16:40,039
that can put a chip on your shoulder. I think

1493
01:16:40,079 --> 01:16:43,399
that I would love to see these two run this

1494
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,239
back again on Night one of WrestleMania. I don't think

1495
01:16:47,239 --> 01:16:51,640
it's gonna close out Night two. That's gonna be whoever

1496
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,479
the ww champion is at the time, and I'm guessing

1497
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,239
that's gonna be Cody versus Sena closing out Night two.

1498
01:16:59,279 --> 01:17:03,079
But if this, yeah, for sure headline Night one, I'm

1499
01:17:03,119 --> 01:17:06,079
all for it. But I do think that if this

1500
01:17:06,319 --> 01:17:10,359
is going to be another Rollins trilogy, Rollins needs the win.

1501
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,920
He did not get the win. Oh, in the Cody

1502
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,800
trilogy he has he was.

1503
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 4: Zero in three. He didn't know, he didn't get he

1504
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,439
didn't get the win. He got zero wins. It's five.

1505
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,239
You take a loss. But it's like in the Punk

1506
01:17:21,319 --> 01:17:24,079
Drew trilogy, it's like, hey, Punk won the trilogy, right,

1507
01:17:24,079 --> 01:17:26,119
which I actually still think Drew should have. In my opinion,

1508
01:17:26,119 --> 01:17:28,199
I think Drew should have Punk getting one win would

1509
01:17:28,199 --> 01:17:30,720
have been fine, it's still be over. But Rawls didn't

1510
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,640
even get a single win on Cody and the other person.

1511
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,520
I was gonna say, I've seen people sometimes say like, oh,

1512
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,399
well Daniel Brian, but it's like Brian had a whole

1513
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,920
Yesselmania built around him. And when they're originally gonna do

1514
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,279
Roman in edge at Mania, the rumor was Vince has

1515
01:17:45,319 --> 01:17:47,640
like changed his mind and he's like, eh, it's not

1516
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,520
like juicy enough what you're doing. He's like, it's good

1517
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,319
Daniel in there. They've never had that with Sas Sess

1518
01:17:52,399 --> 01:17:55,039
never been the like. So even that point of like

1519
01:17:55,039 --> 01:17:58,279
I saw people brought up like Brian in a similar vein,

1520
01:17:58,359 --> 01:18:00,960
It's like, No, Brian multiple time was the guy, even

1521
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,840
if it was just for a year. Yeah, he was

1522
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,199
a guy. Rowlands has never been the guy. You know,

1523
01:18:05,239 --> 01:18:06,479
he's been the second guy.

1524
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,199
Speaker 1: He had to pitch himself for that triple threat ending

1525
01:18:10,279 --> 01:18:13,640
where he beat Brock and Roman, like he had to

1526
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,680
be the one to say that that wasn't Vinsus saying

1527
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,319
he was the one who's like, this is how we

1528
01:18:17,319 --> 01:18:19,279
should do it. Yeah, he's never been the guy. For

1529
01:18:19,319 --> 01:18:21,880
the fact that in the Cody's story, it was the

1530
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,279
I am the torch bearer for WWE. I'm willing to

1531
01:18:26,279 --> 01:18:29,720
take on all comers and here comes Cody. Now again,

1532
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,079
you've got this history with Punk and again, you're the

1533
01:18:33,079 --> 01:18:36,039
torch bearer for WW. You can't be the torch bearer

1534
01:18:36,079 --> 01:18:39,439
and keep getting beat Like, at some point he has

1535
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,319
got to solidify that he is the torch bearer.

1536
01:18:43,239 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 4: While like it was, there was definitely lots of cheers

1537
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,000
for Seth Rowlands, but like Punk still gets the much

1538
01:18:49,039 --> 01:18:50,880
bigger reactions, So you just make him look like a

1539
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,359
geek in my opinion. You know, it's just like I

1540
01:18:53,399 --> 01:18:56,239
suppose's backphoto. It's like that's where I feel rollins. It's

1541
01:18:56,239 --> 01:18:58,880
just like I don't know what's gonna happen there, but

1542
01:19:00,079 --> 01:19:00,680
what about.

1543
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 2: Uh Yeah, I liked the match. I definitely have to

1544
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,960
rewatch it to fully get my thoughts on. But like

1545
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,880
I said, I mean there was a point I was

1546
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,199
scared because Punky like jumped all the way over the

1547
01:19:13,239 --> 01:19:15,680
top rope, like straight to the floor. I was like, oh,

1548
01:19:16,119 --> 01:19:20,520
the same broken leg right, yeah yeah, because it.

1549
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,079
Speaker 4: Looked like he was trying to land on his feet.

1550
01:19:22,199 --> 01:19:24,479
And then I was like, oh, no, it's over again.

1551
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:25,039
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1552
01:19:25,279 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's watched him and doing rehab together.

1553
01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, and uh, like people said that, uh and

1554
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,079
they showed it like when Seth got him with that

1555
01:19:37,239 --> 01:19:40,720
uh that GTS right to the to the face and

1556
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,079
then Punk got him back. Later people were pushing the

1557
01:19:44,119 --> 01:19:47,319
photos of he had like a set of like a

1558
01:19:47,359 --> 01:19:51,640
bruise on his eye afterwards, big one. But yeah, they

1559
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,199
both hit each other hard there, and yeah it was

1560
01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:56,439
a good match. I definitely have to rewatch to uh

1561
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,560
fully get like a star rating in the in the

1562
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,039
moment there, but I liked it, and yeah, definitely a

1563
01:20:03,079 --> 01:20:07,279
lot of space to do more obviously.

1564
01:20:08,119 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: Yeah I have it at a good four and a

1565
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:11,640
half stars right now.

1566
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 3: Again, I like the ending.

1567
01:20:14,279 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: I like how Punk has joked and said that he's

1568
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,359
gonna have to rethink his finisher after taking a GTS himself.

1569
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,600
So you know that they had a hard hitting match.

1570
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,159
I want them to run it back. But I and

1571
01:20:26,279 --> 01:20:29,159
I am a huge, huge seeing Punk fan, don't get

1572
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:32,199
me wrong, and he is one of my absolute favorites,

1573
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,920
not just because of his entering work but him as

1574
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,560
a whole. It's just one of my absolute favorites. But

1575
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,960
in this case, I want Rawlins to if they're going

1576
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,239
to do a trilogy, I want Rawlins to win it.

1577
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,279
Speaker 4: You know, give him something, Give give this man and

1578
01:20:46,399 --> 01:20:46,720
he can.

1579
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,520
Speaker 1: Give Punk his Night one main event, but give Rollins

1580
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:50,720
his Star Wars.

1581
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,600
Speaker 3: You've earned this because he and I guess definitely.

1582
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,159
Speaker 4: Said, oh he has. And I think I've said this

1583
01:20:57,239 --> 01:20:59,479
in the path past that I feel like if Punk

1584
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,039
gets a world title run, it should be like a

1585
01:21:01,079 --> 01:21:03,199
month that to me would be the perfect thing. Seth

1586
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:08,000
that's a Punk beats Gunther, Seth wins it contenders match

1587
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,720
and he beats him, and like what a fun like

1588
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,520
almost embarrassment way that like Punk didn't get this big

1589
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,439
run because Rawlin's ruined it for him, and even if

1590
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,680
Roland's cheats, which again I know Prons wants to do,

1591
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,119
like you have to cheat to beat Punk, but like

1592
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:20,279
I don't even want that. I want just to beat him.

1593
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,359
And the only other thing I've thought before that would

1594
01:21:22,399 --> 01:21:25,600
like help Rawlins if Seena doesn't beat Cody. I've always

1595
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,319
thought that would be like give him a mulligan from

1596
01:21:29,359 --> 01:21:32,039
that whole zero three thing, like let him beat Cody.

1597
01:21:32,039 --> 01:21:34,159
But I just I don't know. Like I said, I'm

1598
01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:37,439
very curious what happens with him during WrestleMania season because

1599
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,920
I just feel like to go from two years in

1600
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,039
a row that it feels like you're gonna even if

1601
01:21:42,039 --> 01:21:45,520
they didn't main event WrestleMania this year, punk and rolls.

1602
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,439
I feel like people was like, oh, that could steal

1603
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,880
the show right where who knows, maybe Gunther and Steph will,

1604
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,439
maybe they'll maybe they'll have a huge ship on the shoulder, right.

1605
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,560
But I don't know how Gunther operates yet, Like I

1606
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,199
don't know what type of political type of guy he is.

1607
01:21:59,239 --> 01:22:00,800
I don't know if he's a guy.

1608
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:05,319
Speaker 2: That like the main event in WW.

1609
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 4: So Like yeah, but and this is what I mean,

1610
01:22:09,159 --> 01:22:11,880
this is what's so weird about the situation. You have

1611
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,000
gun there and you let's say that's the reason Gun

1612
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,359
there and Rawlins that's a match. I feel like they're

1613
01:22:16,359 --> 01:22:19,399
way more invested in protecting gun through than Rawlings, which

1614
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:22,000
is odd because Rawlins has done so much and he's

1615
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,920
so established. But I feel like if they're looking, hey,

1616
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,479
in the future, who should be a bigger deal with

1617
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,840
this probably be gone there, you know. And it's just

1618
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,119
I don't know, Like I said, I I don't I

1619
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:33,479
don't think you should do rash with aw but something

1620
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:34,399
needs to be done with them.

1621
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:39,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, but overall, that was raw on Netflix's debut.

1622
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:43,600
That's how they ended with the big match at seam Punk.

1623
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:47,680
We don't have any huge surprises to end off the

1624
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:52,079
show or anything like that. It's it's not some big,

1625
01:22:52,159 --> 01:22:56,359
massive stay tuned to next week where you'll hear from

1626
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,560
x y Z. No one ran out anything like that.

1627
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,359
It was just all right. They ran a little bit

1628
01:23:02,399 --> 01:23:06,399
over time. They didn't run as far over as we assumed,

1629
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:10,319
but they did. They had been talking about being a

1630
01:23:10,319 --> 01:23:13,119
little bit flexible with this Netflix timing, and they gave

1631
01:23:13,199 --> 01:23:15,920
us a good I think it went six minutes over time,

1632
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:21,760
but that that's just how it is. No huge bang,

1633
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,119
no huge setup. But it was a good match and

1634
01:23:25,159 --> 01:23:28,079
a good way to end it for those who were

1635
01:23:28,079 --> 01:23:32,239
looking for to more wrestling on Netflix. So I'm excited

1636
01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:35,800
to see where they go from here. They're gonna have

1637
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,760
the shake up soon, so we'll see who lands on

1638
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:39,399
which brand.

1639
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 4: And also you got the women's IC final. You got

1640
01:23:44,359 --> 01:23:47,000
Finn and Damien in a street fight, which I learned

1641
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,720
that for some reason. Gwen, my oldestah has Damien three

1642
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,239
in our top three. She's like, oh, I like, I

1643
01:23:52,319 --> 01:23:54,760
can't remember who it was, Like, I think it was

1644
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,239
just Cody seem Punk. She said, Damien Prieze and me

1645
01:23:57,239 --> 01:24:05,439
and both Damien Prieze like, so it's worked. But and

1646
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,039
then apparently I didn't see this video Piers saying there's

1647
01:24:08,039 --> 01:24:10,159
some Adam Pierce video of him saying it's like there's

1648
01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:10,960
a Rhea Ripley.

1649
01:24:11,079 --> 01:24:15,119
Speaker 2: Yeah. Today he's a segment like gunn Punk will be

1650
01:24:15,239 --> 01:24:16,159
live on Raw.

1651
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you got that. People speculate that Becky, which

1652
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,439
has apparently signed a contract, she might be in the

1653
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,159
real segment. People are speculating Hayman might be in the

1654
01:24:25,279 --> 01:24:27,399
punk segment. And then also we got pent as well,

1655
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,600
which will be it will be tons of fun. I'm

1656
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,039
very curious to see how they do that. It was

1657
01:24:31,039 --> 01:24:33,119
cool to see that pop behind the scenes on the

1658
01:24:33,159 --> 01:24:36,439
crowd for Penta, and I think I'm very happy if

1659
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,960
they are not putting with the l w O. Not

1660
01:24:39,079 --> 01:24:42,479
every Lucha door has to be with Santos or Ray

1661
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,560
maybe in the future, but have him on his own

1662
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,520
for a bit. I think I'm looking very forward to

1663
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,039
the presentation. I think they're gonna give him a fucking

1664
01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:51,239
killer entrance.

1665
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's gonna get like all the buyer

1666
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,159
He's gonna get like how Drew uses like every single fire.

1667
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,279
Speaker 4: Cody levels of fire like Cody Pyra, but it's gonna

1668
01:25:02,279 --> 01:25:03,039
be the Pento fire.

1669
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:05,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1670
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:12,399
Speaker 1: So then we also had uh n xten New Year's Evil.

1671
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,720
Now I know, s Bubbs, you are super uxcited about

1672
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:22,199
this as our resident NXT guy. And just like Raw,

1673
01:25:22,319 --> 01:25:25,079
we kick it off with the Man, the Myth, the Legend,

1674
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:26,159
the Rock.

1675
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 2: They switched him to Zoa so he wouldn't be drinking

1676
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:34,760
and driving his Teremona like you did on Raw. But yeah,

1677
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:39,279
he started off the show there to hold those rating.

1678
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,560
They kept teasing it until the very end, and clearly

1679
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:43,039
it worked.

1680
01:25:44,039 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they said throughout the night they used the

1681
01:25:47,039 --> 01:25:50,920
Rock as a lunch pin of the night to say, hey,

1682
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,199
I'm starting off with the rock. Stay tuned, We're gonna

1683
01:25:54,199 --> 01:25:56,720
hear from the rock. You remember at the end of this,

1684
01:25:57,039 --> 01:25:59,439
you're gonna have the Rock. It was a whole lot

1685
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,159
of don't forget about the Rock.

1686
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think about that? I didn't see it,

1687
01:26:05,119 --> 01:26:06,520
So what did you guys say with the overall show?

1688
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,279
Because I didn't see that, and I still haven't seen

1689
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,239
Russell Kingdom. I've seen Dynasty, so I have some thoughts

1690
01:26:11,239 --> 01:26:12,600
in there. But what do you guys thought about New

1691
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:12,960
Year's Eve.

1692
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: Overall, I really like the show. I mean, I like

1693
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,720
pretty much every episode of any NXC is probably the

1694
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:25,039
show where I'm most I think NXT is because obviously

1695
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:30,359
it's I feel like the rotation of characters is kind

1696
01:26:30,359 --> 01:26:33,439
of consistent on NXT. Like on XTC, I don't field

1697
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:37,119
there's that many people who like disappear for a long time,

1698
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:41,000
or even NXT backstage segments will have like thirty five

1699
01:26:41,039 --> 01:26:43,199
people in them, so I feel like everyone shows up

1700
01:26:43,239 --> 01:26:47,000
at least like every week. So NXC is probably the

1701
01:26:47,119 --> 01:26:51,039
show that I'm most interested or invested in like the characters,

1702
01:26:51,359 --> 01:26:54,600
so obviously that makes the matches like more more fun

1703
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,600
to watch for me since I like all these characters.

1704
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,399
But yeah, overall, I thought it was a really good show.

1705
01:27:01,239 --> 01:27:04,159
It was I think five matches in two hours, and

1706
01:27:04,199 --> 01:27:06,920
it felt like they were all just going pretty much

1707
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,039
back to back and getting right into it. And yeah,

1708
01:27:10,079 --> 01:27:15,600
the overall show is good. It ended like I wasn't

1709
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:20,079
expecting Trick, Like with this whole triple threat storyline they

1710
01:27:20,079 --> 01:27:22,119
were putting in here, I didn't think he was gonna

1711
01:27:22,159 --> 01:27:24,239
I thought they were doing that toil, like maybe he

1712
01:27:24,359 --> 01:27:27,199
was gonna pin Eddie Thorpe, so they Yeah, so they

1713
01:27:27,239 --> 01:27:30,960
went in the be Oba. But now the both titles changed,

1714
01:27:31,079 --> 01:27:34,720
I mean all three titles on the even the Lexus King,

1715
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,279
even after he got his his win revoked, he won

1716
01:27:38,399 --> 01:27:41,319
it back fair and square, even if it was with

1717
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:46,560
the accidental low blow, which is his thing now. But yeah,

1718
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,600
that was a good show, and I've been watching some

1719
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,159
people who like don't usually watch that. Next year it

1720
01:27:53,239 --> 01:27:55,880
started watching with this Netflix stuff, and it seems like

1721
01:27:56,319 --> 01:27:58,239
pretty much everyone who watched, even if you were on

1722
01:27:58,319 --> 01:28:02,079
the usual viewer, enjoyed it. So I was happy for

1723
01:28:02,159 --> 01:28:03,520
that as well.

1724
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched it in segments. I didn't watch all

1725
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:07,159
of it live.

1726
01:28:07,279 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: I watched the opening live h with the Rock and

1727
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:14,680
then kicking it off with Roxane Perez versus Julio, which

1728
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:19,680
I thought was an incredible match. I love watching Julie wrestles,

1729
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:24,039
so that was good. And then I saw the fatal

1730
01:28:24,079 --> 01:28:28,239
four way Number one Contenders match because I also like

1731
01:28:28,359 --> 01:28:32,159
watching Stephanie Vakuur and Coor Jade are two people who

1732
01:28:32,199 --> 01:28:39,239
I really like watching as well. So oh yeah, I'm

1733
01:28:39,239 --> 01:28:40,560
not putting it over here.

1734
01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 4: There's like ten wrestling ladies are the THIRSD Traps And

1735
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,920
that's definitely two of them that every day at my timeline.

1736
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,560
And that's why I said in the disc or I'm like, man,

1737
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,239
when Stephanie and Rea have a match, like all the time,

1738
01:28:52,279 --> 01:28:55,439
when you'd see like different Twitter accounts that are very

1739
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,479
popular Twitter accounts without wrestling accounts, they just like get

1740
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,920
some sort of horny video or something. It's like when

1741
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,760
Stefanie and Riego to to to I just like when

1742
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,239
Ria has is there a name for the move when

1743
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:07,880
she wraps people around the head and she does like

1744
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:11,680
the slamming like one, they need to get a name

1745
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,640
so they market that. But when she does that to

1746
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:19,239
Ria Ripley, the I can just see the view counts

1747
01:29:19,239 --> 01:29:22,680
on all these videos happening very like it's gonna be

1748
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:24,680
Twitter is gonna break down.

1749
01:29:24,119 --> 01:29:28,079
Speaker 1: There was a video move that's the one that's going

1750
01:29:28,159 --> 01:29:28,800
to break Twitter.

1751
01:29:29,159 --> 01:29:32,399
Speaker 7: Both there was there was a cliff that went I

1752
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:38,359
think it was like rening Live at at its Yes,

1753
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:41,399
I think like one hundred and thirty thousand likes or

1754
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:45,439
something like that, and it was like yeah.

1755
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's true. There's just so many people that

1756
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,880
know Rihea Ripley from just like like like on the pot,

1757
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,199
like when like after nine, she's a patron in the

1758
01:29:52,279 --> 01:29:54,640
discord like Summer Hans. He has never seen a rest

1759
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,159
like a lick of wrestling in her life, but she

1760
01:29:56,199 --> 01:29:58,079
knows who Rihea Ripley is. Like That's where it's just

1761
01:29:58,079 --> 01:30:00,800
like I could make an argument that re Ripley is

1762
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:04,399
like above Cody and Roman.

1763
01:30:06,159 --> 01:30:08,520
Speaker 2: I put, I put. When I went to that house show,

1764
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,600
I said, Ria got a bigger pop than anyone there.

1765
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,319
I'd say that top three for me. I would generally

1766
01:30:14,359 --> 01:30:16,680
rick down and say Roman, Ria, and then Cody in

1767
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,560
terms of popularity.

1768
01:30:19,119 --> 01:30:21,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was gonna say, I forgot to say

1769
01:30:21,279 --> 01:30:23,600
in the live Ria thing, I'm not gonna bring up

1770
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,479
till happens. But my new agenda is the live face

1771
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,399
turn and then the tag team. We need that soon.

1772
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:31,439
I'm excited for that to happen in two years. Continue

1773
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:31,840
the show.

1774
01:30:32,079 --> 01:30:37,159
Speaker 3: I watched those two matches. I watched them on mute,

1775
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:41,000
so I didn't hear booker T until.

1776
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,159
Speaker 4: Now you set yourself real up.

1777
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:46,520
Speaker 2: Book booker t Is favorite is Lolavice. If she's in

1778
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:48,479
a match, he doesn't care about anyone else.

1779
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,319
Speaker 1: So Yeah, the next day, I'm scrolling Twitter, and I

1780
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:54,680
just hear I see all of the commentary on Booker

1781
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:58,840
T just absolutely losing his mind during all the spots

1782
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,640
of the Fatal four Away mad Switch. I'm like, okay, So,

1783
01:31:03,199 --> 01:31:06,840
because I watched this the next day, I was at

1784
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,279
work and so I just had it on my iPad

1785
01:31:09,319 --> 01:31:11,800
and it was on mute when I was watching it.

1786
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the Fatal Influence match.

1787
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:18,159
Speaker 1: I've heard you know that it was okay, but it

1788
01:31:18,279 --> 01:31:19,600
wasn't a big deal.

1789
01:31:20,079 --> 01:31:22,039
Speaker 2: I thought. I thought it was fun. I feel I

1790
01:31:22,119 --> 01:31:26,359
saw people saying, like like a shatzi and NXT is

1791
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,840
just like better than she's ever been in in main roster,

1792
01:31:30,039 --> 01:31:35,239
like I do stuff in NXCAR. Maybe it's just since

1793
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:39,840
it's a tag slash trios type scenario, you're not doing

1794
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,439
all the work the whole time. Yeah, but I think

1795
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,079
she's been good so far in this group there.

1796
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the Ethan page in The Rock, I saw

1797
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,880
their exchange. I unmute it for that because it's the Rock.

1798
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,239
I had to hear what was going to be said.

1799
01:31:56,119 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 4: Why did he do that? Why did he slap his

1800
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:05,199
ass like that? Whatever said it's odd made the right call.

1801
01:32:07,279 --> 01:32:09,960
I didn't watch the slap of Penta in a couple

1802
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,680
of months, go get on Penta.

1803
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:16,520
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the Charlie Dempsey Alexis King match. I

1804
01:32:17,159 --> 01:32:19,800
heard how it ended and things like that, didn't watch.

1805
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:23,760
But I did definitely watch the Trick Williams obam Eddie

1806
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:28,800
Thorpe match because I like Trick Williams. I've been loving

1807
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,920
his ascension over the last year. Same with Obafemi, so

1808
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:38,199
I really wanted to see what happened with that. I

1809
01:32:38,359 --> 01:32:42,680
did not expect them to give the title to Oba already,

1810
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,920
but hey, I'm I'm good with that. So they they

1811
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:49,199
had a good match. Those guys put on a hell

1812
01:32:49,239 --> 01:32:51,640
of a show. Thorpe is a great wrestler in his

1813
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,520
own right, so I'm like, all right.

1814
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:54,039
Speaker 3: Cool with that.

1815
01:32:54,159 --> 01:32:58,039
Speaker 1: And then the rock comes out and just goes, uh

1816
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:03,880
full rock, just full, all over the place rock.

1817
01:33:04,199 --> 01:33:07,239
Speaker 4: And if you were telling me he's on cocaine in

1818
01:33:07,239 --> 01:33:10,640
that segment, I would completely believe you. He was all

1819
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:12,920
over the fucking place. I'm just gonna say, hey, loss.

1820
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 1: Of Zoa's let's just say ship the steel shot of

1821
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:22,000
this in uh, I don't even know what pulling up

1822
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:27,319
and it just it brings me joy, just the level

1823
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:33,720
of this picture of him and so. But other than that, yeah,

1824
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,319
the rock was just there. I don't know if on

1825
01:33:36,399 --> 01:33:40,279
you guys' string, but on mine it cut off as

1826
01:33:40,319 --> 01:33:42,600
he was finishing his.

1827
01:33:43,079 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, mine cut off. Well, he was like and then

1828
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:47,479
they cut off.

1829
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:50,399
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1830
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:55,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just I just shared that picture.

1831
01:33:58,399 --> 01:34:00,319
Speaker 4: I hang and I can bring it up your for

1832
01:34:00,359 --> 01:34:06,960
the video. Verson because he's he's he literally looks like

1833
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:08,720
if you've seen painting.

1834
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,159
Speaker 2: Gas well half caremona.

1835
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:21,199
Speaker 4: He's on a different He thinks he's about to wrestle

1836
01:34:21,279 --> 01:34:23,399
John seen to wrestle me in twenty nine. Man, now

1837
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:26,359
I'm saving that photo.

1838
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 3: He's not only twenty steps ahead, he is looking twenty

1839
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:31,520
years ahead.

1840
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 1: He is.

1841
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 4: Oh man, Yeah, that's good stuff. No, the only thing

1842
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,199
I had to I was surprised they put it on

1843
01:34:41,239 --> 01:34:45,520
Obie this. Uh we were this quick. But yeah, it's

1844
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:49,039
gonna be interesting. Uh yeah, we'll do quick fire ones

1845
01:34:49,119 --> 01:34:50,600
so we don't go too long. David, do you have

1846
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,840
any what's your quick fire review on a wrestle Kingdom?

1847
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:56,640
Not Dnasty Kingdom because I meant to see that but

1848
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,800
I never got round to it, just like I think

1849
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:01,760
I'll It was just because like the reviews just weren't

1850
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,159
the greatst for like a lot of the bigger matches.

1851
01:35:04,199 --> 01:35:05,600
So that's why I didn't go out of my way.

1852
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,600
I still want to, but yeah, what do you think

1853
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,359
about the show for Elevator Pitch?

1854
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:16,119
Speaker 1: So overall it it had its its highlights. It it

1855
01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:19,520
had some super high moments, and its high moments were

1856
01:35:20,119 --> 01:35:22,760
high moments. But then there were other moments that I

1857
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:28,319
could have absolutely done without, like the Tequesta's Shinochicagi match

1858
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:35,359
that was that was great. I was all for it.

1859
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:36,520
Speaker 4: Of course, Keshta.

1860
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:43,319
Speaker 1: You know Naito versus R. Takahashi, they were both gassed

1861
01:35:44,199 --> 01:35:47,079
within minutes of that match, and it was a seventeen

1862
01:35:47,119 --> 01:35:50,159
minute match, and you can tell that match needed to

1863
01:35:50,279 --> 01:35:52,680
end around the eight or nine minute mark, like it

1864
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:54,800
was just it was not there.

1865
01:35:55,079 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 4: NIO's got to be a tag guy or they just

1866
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,359
got to call it, which I think they're starting to

1867
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:03,119
do the tag team stuff with them now. And banged up.

1868
01:36:04,199 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: I like the junior heavyweights, but el desk Berdo in

1869
01:36:07,279 --> 01:36:11,600
dokie match and that ending with the referee stoppage, seeing

1870
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,840
that live, seeing the way that his elbow bent on

1871
01:36:15,119 --> 01:36:19,600
that bounce to the outside was just uh, it was

1872
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:26,319
not goodhe versus Evil. It was just a match. I mean,

1873
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,840
it wasn't nothing. Again, it's a ton of how she's

1874
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:33,640
doing his fil farewell tour as well, so it just

1875
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:35,760
it is what it is for me though. The match

1876
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:42,199
of the Knights for that was Zach Saber Junior was

1877
01:36:42,239 --> 01:36:46,520
probably in the top to of the matches him versus Shooter,

1878
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:52,000
who it was okay, but it wasn't crushing. I'll put

1879
01:36:52,079 --> 01:37:00,159
Zach Saber Junior and Shooter at three and she go

1880
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:03,159
to Kagi at two. But the match of the night

1881
01:37:03,399 --> 01:37:08,800
was actually the IWGP women's match and it was only

1882
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,039
an eight minute match, eight and a half I think.

1883
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 2: But those about that one.

1884
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they went all out and that was probably

1885
01:37:19,159 --> 01:37:24,520
my match of the night. But yeah, so that's that's

1886
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:28,079
it for Russell Kingdom. I woke up super early to

1887
01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:33,800
watch it, and I probably if it wasn't for the

1888
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:35,800
fact that it is Russell Kingdom and this has been

1889
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:37,840
a tradition for the last seven years, I would have

1890
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,560
watched it the next day. There was nothing that really

1891
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,439
was a grabber that made me go I need to

1892
01:37:45,039 --> 01:37:48,720
get back to watching New Japan on the regular it

1893
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:52,880
will probably be something where I only watch the three

1894
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:56,720
big shows that they have. Outside of that, I'll just

1895
01:37:57,079 --> 01:37:58,359
catch highlights here and there.

1896
01:37:59,279 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 4: I think because of what we talk about this next,

1897
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,159
I think Dynasty did a bare job of making me

1898
01:38:03,319 --> 01:38:06,600
want to watch New Japan more than the which also

1899
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,159
didn't watching him. But I just feel like from the

1900
01:38:08,199 --> 01:38:10,319
reviews of it, and obviously that was an aw k

1901
01:38:10,319 --> 01:38:13,439
New Japan crossover show, and that's been the toughest thing, right.

1902
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:17,600
Speaker 2: Is it was supposedly a Japan.

1903
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Zach sit showed to match the

1904
01:38:29,119 --> 01:38:32,319
reason that, like, for the most part, it was good.

1905
01:38:32,359 --> 01:38:33,079
Speaker 4: It was just long.

1906
01:38:33,239 --> 01:38:36,319
Speaker 1: It was forty plus minutes. That match could have gotten

1907
01:38:36,399 --> 01:38:38,439
cut in half because it's.

1908
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 4: Face said it all. That's what you're supposed to do, though,

1909
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:44,279
right Wressell Kingdom main event, you're supposed to They're always

1910
01:38:44,319 --> 01:38:47,640
supposed to be the long drawn out like epics.

1911
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,359
Speaker 1: It's you know, they always effer that from pacing. It

1912
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:54,720
definitely suffered from pacing. Showdow couldn't figure out whether he

1913
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,720
was face or heel in this match. They kept playing

1914
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,960
up the fact that his is the legendary referee for

1915
01:39:02,079 --> 01:39:06,079
New Japan Red Shoes, but outside of one interaction where

1916
01:39:06,119 --> 01:39:08,680
shut Is put in some boots to Zach Saber Junior

1917
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,319
and he's just he keeps going and Retch's like, hey,

1918
01:39:11,399 --> 01:39:13,680
knock it off, and he just kinda like, hey, get

1919
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,880
off me. Other than that, they really had no interaction,

1920
01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:19,640
So why hype that up the entire match for them

1921
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:21,800
to have absolutely no interaction?

1922
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 3: It just it fell short.

1923
01:39:24,319 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 1: Technical wise, wrestling wise, that they did pretty good, but

1924
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:33,239
I don't think shooters in that position to be a

1925
01:39:33,319 --> 01:39:39,159
worthy challenger, and Zach Saber Junior style doesn't mesh well

1926
01:39:39,159 --> 01:39:42,000
with everybody, No.

1927
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,319
Speaker 4: Not at all, which the next night him and Records

1928
01:39:45,399 --> 01:39:47,239
she had like a better outing, right, I thought that

1929
01:39:47,359 --> 01:39:51,119
was good. I still think, well, I'll save the cannything

1930
01:39:51,239 --> 01:39:53,119
last because we'll probably I'll go around top about that.

1931
01:39:53,119 --> 01:39:55,399
That also should have went last, I think at the

1932
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,079
end of the day. But still like, I think they

1933
01:39:57,119 --> 01:39:59,760
did a great job still getting the crowd back. But

1934
01:40:00,199 --> 01:40:02,560
Dynasty was tons of fun. I'd have to think about it,

1935
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:04,439
but I think I enjoyed it more than Forbidden Door

1936
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,319
from last year. Like for like the crossover shows. I

1937
01:40:07,359 --> 01:40:09,960
thought Mina and I always still want to call Asasha.

1938
01:40:10,199 --> 01:40:13,159
I thought Mina and Mercedes had tons of good chemistry.

1939
01:40:13,159 --> 01:40:15,640
When I liked about it, it was like the bell rang

1940
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:17,640
and then it wasn't like a not a fight like

1941
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:19,119
well the hatech other it was just to me, I

1942
01:40:19,199 --> 01:40:20,920
liked it was like someone they're just trying to get

1943
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,279
the win quick. It felt like it was like a

1944
01:40:23,359 --> 01:40:25,399
time like you guys only got ten minutes, you gotta go.

1945
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,840
But it wasn't that. So I just really liked the

1946
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,600
style and the quick pace. And I think mon A

1947
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:32,640
I'll talk about her later in some awards thing, but

1948
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,119
I think that this back half of the year really

1949
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,880
like there are some stumbles all the way, but really

1950
01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:40,840
showed Okay, no, she's still the fucking person she was

1951
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,680
five years ago. She can have these bangers and very

1952
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:46,039
different style of matches. So that was tons of fun.

1953
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,079
Very surprised. The Bucks are tag champs now, so I

1954
01:40:49,079 --> 01:40:50,520
don't know what they're doing with that. I thought they

1955
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:52,439
were just there to be like, hey, we used to

1956
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,319
be in New Japan, a big deal. But maybe they're

1957
01:40:54,319 --> 01:40:56,560
gonna be there for a bit. But overall, I thought

1958
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,920
it was a really good show. I can't speak on

1959
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:02,479
the Gauntlet. I didn't know seventy people in that match.

1960
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 2: That was the clip of that. I think I forget

1961
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:12,520
his name, maybe moscadd I think, but it got like, yeah,

1962
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:15,960
it got like that clip went like crazy viral, just

1963
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,680
like a sequence of him doing like wild stuff. It

1964
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,039
got on Twitter. Was like when I chock was like

1965
01:41:21,039 --> 01:41:23,560
one hundred and seventy thousand likes or something like that,

1966
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:25,840
or like two hundred k likes or something like that.

1967
01:41:26,279 --> 01:41:29,359
I think someone joked that's like, it's like, well, CML,

1968
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:31,159
we'll see him in three months.

1969
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:32,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1970
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:37,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the guys in the Gauntlet match, I know

1971
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:41,239
most of them, and I'm familiar with most of their work,

1972
01:41:41,399 --> 01:41:46,039
like has been part of Bullet Club for a while. Yea,

1973
01:41:46,039 --> 01:41:50,039
And I remember yeah t Ten, who it looks like

1974
01:41:50,119 --> 01:41:55,800
Titan t Ten. He's great. Al Desperado is great. So

1975
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:57,560
like a lot of these, I knew that they were

1976
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:01,159
going to have a good back in fourth match. So

1977
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,600
again this this ended up being the better of it.

1978
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,319
The only thing that was a disappointment to me really

1979
01:42:08,399 --> 01:42:13,119
with this one was the ton of Hashi versus the

1980
01:42:13,239 --> 01:42:14,079
Shabbata match.

1981
01:42:15,079 --> 01:42:18,119
Speaker 4: I thought, you're gonna throw some Jack's Perry sprays strays

1982
01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:23,119
coming up here. I've got another great, great rock photo here.

1983
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,600
Speaker 3: It had a five minute time limit and it just

1984
01:42:28,279 --> 01:42:31,199
ends and that was just I mean, I.

1985
01:42:31,119 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 1: Get it, but it was just like but yeah, so

1986
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:39,800
the fact that that one just ended in yet as

1987
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:48,800
far as the Jack Perry match, it put over, Yeah when.

1988
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:49,640
Speaker 4: Was that taken?

1989
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 2: Though?

1990
01:42:50,079 --> 01:42:53,520
Speaker 4: I know because he's wearing the he he doesn't have

1991
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:54,560
the beard, so it's.

1992
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:59,199
Speaker 2: Weird, like like Rodd one and Dragonly just posted like

1993
01:42:59,279 --> 01:42:59,960
a year later.

1994
01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:07,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Jack Berry just he just needs a refresher

1995
01:43:07,159 --> 01:43:09,399
because I'm I'm the same thing as the sole thing

1996
01:43:09,399 --> 01:43:12,319
where I don't think he's as bad as people say,

1997
01:43:12,359 --> 01:43:15,359
but I do understand the scapegoat thing didn't work, and

1998
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:17,520
I think he's talented in the ring, but it was

1999
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:19,079
it wasn't add fit down there. I think it's just

2000
01:43:19,079 --> 01:43:21,520
because the bucks were there and like, let's you're a

2001
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,720
part of the I guess the new elite. But I

2002
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:26,079
feel like that's but.

2003
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,199
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know because they didn't have any interactions to

2004
01:43:32,239 --> 01:43:34,439
say he's part of the new elite.

2005
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 2: Things.

2006
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 1: He did escapegoat gimmick, but again that there's nothing to

2007
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:41,439
really say that. I think it was a good showing

2008
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:42,159
for the.

2009
01:43:42,239 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 4: Well he did wear the fucking huge goat mask though,

2010
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:46,079
remember he wore.

2011
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:50,359
Speaker 1: That, and I am happy though that with this uh

2012
01:43:51,279 --> 01:43:55,199
New Japan took home a good chunk of the winds.

2013
01:43:55,359 --> 01:43:57,199
It was a good showing for them. It's not like

2014
01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,800
Forbidden Door where it was just like, all right, you guys,

2015
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:03,239
show up just for our people to beat you. This

2016
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:07,439
was a pretty back and forth with who won and

2017
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,960
who took what and things like that. You know, they

2018
01:44:10,319 --> 01:44:15,760
won the women's match, Athena representing our wage per Sephanie

2019
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,880
with CMLL. We'll the night and get with aw Mamo

2020
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:23,680
watsonab with stardom and Momo ends up winning. Athenas suffers

2021
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:27,479
a loss. Now, granted she got hit with a baseball bat,

2022
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,800
and that baseball bat had a lot of beIN to

2023
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:34,119
it if you see that hidden uh replay. But you know,

2024
01:44:34,399 --> 01:44:37,439
so they they had a good match with with that,

2025
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,079
and overall it was a good showing. But we all

2026
01:44:40,119 --> 01:44:44,920
know what was the highlight of this pay per view,

2027
01:44:45,119 --> 01:44:49,880
and god it it was an absolute banger.

2028
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:53,279
Speaker 4: That's part of the reason I had to try to

2029
01:44:53,279 --> 01:44:55,880
get on here. You know, there's been a we've coming

2030
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:57,800
on a year of a gimmick. How many they'll talk

2031
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,560
about Kenny Omega at all. I thought for sure too

2032
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,279
when I supposed to watch came Omega, He's gonna be like, oh,

2033
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:05,199
like what the fuck about? Like he was not gonna

2034
01:45:05,239 --> 01:45:08,000
because I think me and David speaks so highly of him, like, man,

2035
01:45:08,319 --> 01:45:11,640
okay's gonna come back washed, and you guys talk.

2036
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,199
Speaker 2: About me watching maybe one of the matches that might

2037
01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:16,119
be someone's best match of the year.

2038
01:45:16,279 --> 01:45:19,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know what. I can't believe that. But no,

2039
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:22,800
I I was happy because like that's a big thing

2040
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,159
he went through and you never know, but he was

2041
01:45:25,199 --> 01:45:27,840
in great shape. The entrance was great. I like the music.

2042
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:32,880
Everything was great. Yeah, for like it's fun dumb thing

2043
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:34,680
to say it is my match of the year, like yeah,

2044
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,159
eleven days in, but like that, this is one where

2045
01:45:37,199 --> 01:45:40,079
it's like, man, now, like this is the standard for

2046
01:45:40,119 --> 01:45:42,239
twenty twenty five for me when I think, Okay, what's

2047
01:45:42,279 --> 01:45:44,880
gonna have to match it? And I wasn't sure, And

2048
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:47,359
I was taken completely off guard because I had to

2049
01:45:47,359 --> 01:45:49,800
ask David because I've not seen a single Gabe Kid match,

2050
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,640
and if I did, he was like, very very early on,

2051
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:55,039
I wouldn't even remember it. So I'd asked what the

2052
01:45:55,039 --> 01:45:57,640
styles and I was shocked that even if he's a brawl,

2053
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:59,720
I thought, okay, but I shocked that they win a

2054
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:03,640
full like like blading, like street fights, fighting outside like

2055
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:05,680
I did not think there was gonna be Kenny's first

2056
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:07,680
match back at all. I thought it'd be more of

2057
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:10,000
a classic New Japan thing, and he's done those brawls

2058
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,119
like him and Jericho did that Wrestle Kingdom, right, that

2059
01:46:12,199 --> 01:46:13,680
was their match where it was a big brawl, But

2060
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:15,439
I didn't think that'd be the first one. So I

2061
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:17,560
kind of liked that. It was like he's coming back,

2062
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,119
but he's on the back step because he's been gone

2063
01:46:20,119 --> 01:46:22,479
for whistle. Gabe can control the narrative the match, and

2064
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,000
he made his style of match, and I thought Gabe

2065
01:46:25,079 --> 01:46:28,079
Kid looked like a fucking massive star actors Like this

2066
01:46:28,239 --> 01:46:31,119
is like I said to David, they gotta follow the

2067
01:46:31,199 --> 01:46:34,439
Kenny Omega formula where next year he should win the

2068
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:37,079
g One, but he should lose the Wrestle Kingdom made

2069
01:46:37,079 --> 01:46:38,840
event and make him chase it because that was a

2070
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,199
huge thing with Kenny that he kept getting close. It

2071
01:46:41,239 --> 01:46:43,319
took him like three years and then Kenny won it,

2072
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,760
and then three months later he dropped the title left

2073
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:47,840
to AW, so it felt like such a small portion.

2074
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:49,960
But I think with Gabe Kid, which I think I

2075
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,560
have heard his contracts coming up, so New Japan should

2076
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,279
do everything to make sure he sticks around. If not,

2077
01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:58,239
WDNAW should go after him. Because that felt like I

2078
01:46:58,279 --> 01:47:00,920
know people have made the comparisons of and Stone Cold.

2079
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:02,760
I don't know if I can go that high. Those

2080
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,079
are both five out of five matches, but it had

2081
01:47:05,119 --> 01:47:08,680
that like I was absolutely shocked to hear fans booing Kenny.

2082
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:12,319
That's never happened since he's left. Every time he's come back,

2083
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:15,760
Massive Pop's big reception. So and Kenny is so good

2084
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,439
because the second years the booze he plays to it.

2085
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,800
You see his face, he starts emon, he starts reacting.

2086
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,199
That's why, and that's why I'm not gonna get on

2087
01:47:23,239 --> 01:47:25,800
that debate. Because Osprey with winning a lot of Best

2088
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,000
Wrestling years, people talk about how bad he is or

2089
01:47:28,039 --> 01:47:30,239
like they're all the same. But I'm on that train.

2090
01:47:30,399 --> 01:47:33,640
But that's where I've always been a Kenny guy. Because Kenny,

2091
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,840
it's he. It sounds cheesy, but he is a storyteller

2092
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,079
and there's always stuff he can do, all the physical stuff,

2093
01:47:39,319 --> 01:47:41,760
but it's the stuff in his face. It's the stuff.

2094
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,800
That's why even there's a match like years ago that

2095
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:47,279
him and Codey had roh for the News and it's

2096
01:47:47,279 --> 01:47:49,680
there's so many good dynamics Like that's why one of

2097
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:51,760
my favorite matches all the time is him and Coda

2098
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:54,560
versus the Bucks. Like he does such a good job

2099
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:58,760
taking little moments and making work. That's why, Yeah, him

2100
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,359
versus Roman would just be the fucking ultimate of like

2101
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:03,760
talk about it has to be New Japan Kenny, because

2102
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:06,680
even Kenny back on dynam and I was like, there's

2103
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:08,560
something not right here. It's probably because it's like, oh

2104
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:11,239
we got I'm back with Don Colls. I think Tony

2105
01:48:11,319 --> 01:48:14,159
kind of it's already flubbed Kenny coming back. It felt

2106
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:16,399
like that return was not as big as it could

2107
01:48:16,399 --> 01:48:18,760
have been, like throwing him back with Don Cows. But

2108
01:48:19,199 --> 01:48:21,279
that match with Gabe Kid that for me, yeah, it's

2109
01:48:21,319 --> 01:48:23,479
it's it's matched year, but not in the way where

2110
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:25,520
it's like, because there's been so little is that it's like,

2111
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,000
this is gonna be really tough to talk for me

2112
01:48:28,079 --> 01:48:30,760
because I was I was surprised how good it was

2113
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,960
and I can't wait to see what outa Gabe kid does.

2114
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,600
But I can't wait to see. Hopefully we won't talk

2115
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,199
too much about but I just hope that yeah, AW

2116
01:48:38,279 --> 01:48:41,720
pivots and Kenny becomes the guy, because I feel like

2117
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:44,399
everyone's feeling that momentum, like, hey, we really like him

2118
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:46,920
to be up there again. And if it's just yeah,

2119
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,840
but he's the Connell Classic Champion and that's huge because

2120
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:51,680
he's a workhorse and we love him and he represents

2121
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,119
the brand. And when he represents the brand, that's AW

2122
01:48:54,199 --> 01:48:56,039
and that's for the that'st for wrestling. I don't need

2123
01:48:56,039 --> 01:48:57,640
that from Tony Khan where he gives me a thirty

2124
01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:00,760
minute answer of why is Kenny like on collision with

2125
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,840
Brian Cage or whatever? You know, I know he's not.

2126
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,720
But it's just like there's times where you gotta you

2127
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,920
gotta change. You can always make Darby win at any point.

2128
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,239
Hell I've said, make him beat Kenny. Make it a

2129
01:49:11,279 --> 01:49:13,680
shocking one, two three kid where Kenny goes in a

2130
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:16,960
six month run, he fights Darby and Darby rolls him up.

2131
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,279
It's like Jesus, he beat Kenny O Maker for the title.

2132
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:21,880
That's and I don't Thinkkenny and Kelly that's a big moment,

2133
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,039
like we'll talk about the world then after. But yeah,

2134
01:49:25,079 --> 01:49:28,000
I thought this match was fantastic. I blew my expectations.

2135
01:49:28,039 --> 01:49:30,840
I'm glad Kenny he still got it. He still got it,

2136
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:31,119
you know.

2137
01:49:31,319 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, suppose before I get your thoughts in the match,

2138
01:49:34,119 --> 01:49:36,560
I just want to the little little step there because

2139
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:41,359
I've been watching Gabe Kid for years and my first

2140
01:49:41,399 --> 01:49:47,039
introduction to him was back in WCPW What Culture Pro Wrestling,

2141
01:49:47,119 --> 01:49:51,560
which then became Defiant Pro Wrestling, to which he won

2142
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:55,960
their Internet Championship. And without looking, can either of you

2143
01:49:56,159 --> 01:49:59,720
guess the two men that he beat for this championship?

2144
01:50:02,399 --> 01:50:06,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not looking. Are they where? Where the current

2145
01:50:06,319 --> 01:50:07,199
wrestle Give me.

2146
01:50:07,159 --> 01:50:12,520
Speaker 1: A hint, w W for one, and a couple of places,

2147
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:14,560
but mostly TNA for the other.

2148
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:22,520
Speaker 2: So Joe Hendry is the one, uh other guy? It's

2149
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:26,920
like ww British or maybe not British, but probably British.

2150
01:50:27,359 --> 01:50:31,199
Speaker 1: Remember they w CFW spent their bank on bringing in

2151
01:50:31,279 --> 01:50:32,159
a lot of people.

2152
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:37,039
Speaker 4: Drew. Did Drew do a stint over there at some point?

2153
01:50:37,239 --> 01:50:37,640
Speaker 3: He did?

2154
01:50:38,199 --> 01:50:43,119
Speaker 1: But he is not the one. Okay, he beat Cody

2155
01:50:43,199 --> 01:50:49,640
and Joe injury jeez, were the Internet Championship that he

2156
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:54,680
then lost to Zach Saber Junior. So around two thousand

2157
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:58,199
is when he joined New Japan, and he went in

2158
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:02,880
as a young Lion. Those who are familiar with New

2159
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:06,159
Japan's way of doing things, the young Lions are basically

2160
01:51:06,199 --> 01:51:08,399
the bottom of the bottom. They're the guys that you

2161
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:10,560
see surrounding the rings. They put up the rings, they

2162
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,239
take down the rings. They learn the business from the

2163
01:51:13,279 --> 01:51:17,119
ground up. They're the ones throwing ice on Kenny Omega

2164
01:51:17,159 --> 01:51:20,520
after the match and helping escort him out like they

2165
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:24,199
are doing everything. They are mopping the mats in the

2166
01:51:24,239 --> 01:51:27,720
practice arena, all this other stuff. So he went, after

2167
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:31,119
having this run in WCPW and Defiant and even a

2168
01:51:31,159 --> 01:51:33,760
little bit of a run in Rev Pro, went to

2169
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:38,000
New Japan under the recommendation of Shebata and started from

2170
01:51:38,079 --> 01:51:40,840
the ground up. So that's why it was so important

2171
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:44,279
to him to have that lion's mark on his trunks

2172
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,760
when he came out against Kenny Omega. That's why he

2173
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:51,159
was getting such a pop against Kenny because they have

2174
01:51:51,279 --> 01:51:55,520
been watching this kid for the last five years rise

2175
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:57,720
up through their system.

2176
01:51:58,039 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just like I feel in this one match.

2177
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:07,079
They did the Soul of the Company story. Then all

2178
01:52:07,159 --> 01:52:10,079
of aw has been trying to do for like a year.

2179
01:52:10,159 --> 01:52:13,039
Speaker 3: The good Heart and Soul match. Yeah.

2180
01:52:13,319 --> 01:52:15,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's where sometimes it just like you just

2181
01:52:15,239 --> 01:52:17,800
need the two guys. You don't need multi groups trying

2182
01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:21,880
to kill Ricky Morton or you know, like throw Darby

2183
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:22,560
down a stairs.

2184
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2185
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:26,680
Speaker 1: This was built on one guy's return and him saying, hey,

2186
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:28,920
I want to come back to New Japan where you

2187
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:31,840
know I made my name versus another guy who goes

2188
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,239
you left and I've been making a name. I've been

2189
01:52:35,279 --> 01:52:38,640
holding this place up since you left. And that gave

2190
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:42,239
it that good gravitas to the match. And yeah, I'm

2191
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:44,880
I'm glad the match is what it is. Like you said,

2192
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:48,319
I didn't want s Bubbs coming back and looking like

2193
01:52:48,399 --> 01:52:54,119
kill Monger going, is this your king? What did you

2194
01:52:54,159 --> 01:52:56,479
think not only about the match, but this is your

2195
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:59,760
first real Kenny Omega experience.

2196
01:53:01,399 --> 01:53:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think I've seen one other Keny Omega match.

2197
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:13,159
I've seen him versus Moxley full Gear, the the I

2198
01:53:13,159 --> 01:53:16,479
don't know death match or no DQ or whatever it's called.

2199
01:53:17,279 --> 01:53:20,239
I've seen that one. But yeah, this is definitely I've

2200
01:53:20,279 --> 01:53:23,560
seen all this hype about his return really since he

2201
01:53:24,279 --> 01:53:30,039
had to leave because of the illness. Yeah, so yeah,

2202
01:53:30,039 --> 01:53:32,960
it was definitely exciting to see and yeah, I love

2203
01:53:33,039 --> 01:53:41,279
the match. It was awesome. Yeah, yeah, it was definitely it. Yeah,

2204
01:53:41,319 --> 01:53:43,680
and I'd say it flew by, like because I don't

2205
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,720
know what the final runtime ended up being, but I

2206
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,760
remember feeling like we were just getting started and then

2207
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:53,439
they announced like thirty minutes in or whatever, and I

2208
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:55,600
was like, wow, it's already been that time. But yeah,

2209
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:58,439
it was definitely a really exciting match. And yeah, it

2210
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:01,640
was good because since they didn't ounater as any like

2211
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:04,319
it was just special singles match, so when they when

2212
01:54:04,319 --> 01:54:07,159
they started going all with these weapons and stuff like that.

2213
01:54:07,319 --> 01:54:09,840
But it was really fun and yeah it was that

2214
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,319
was a five star match for me. I loved it.

2215
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a little bit light with the rules over

2216
01:54:15,199 --> 01:54:18,720
in Japan. This match went thirty one minutes in fifty

2217
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:23,359
five seconds, but yeah, they are definitely they are white

2218
01:54:23,399 --> 01:54:27,239
with the rules. His last match before this was against

2219
01:54:27,359 --> 01:54:30,800
Ethan Page on Collision in Canada.

2220
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,039
Speaker 4: They wrestled in Canada.

2221
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 1: YEP in Montreal, Quebec on December fifth, so of twenty

2222
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,399
twenty three, so he went December fifth of twenty twenty three,

2223
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:44,279
all the way up intil January fifth of twenty twenty

2224
01:54:44,279 --> 01:54:45,560
five without a match.

2225
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:50,039
Speaker 2: Jeez, I kind of want to people were bringing up

2226
01:54:50,079 --> 01:54:54,359
recently because now that now that now that he's okay

2227
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,760
and you can laugh about it, and like, I want

2228
01:54:56,760 --> 01:55:00,159
to go back and watch that promo the Golden just

2229
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:05,560
watched that happened, because I remember people talking about him

2230
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:08,960
because people say that's like I saw that, that's like

2231
01:55:09,039 --> 01:55:12,039
bottom five promo of the Lab. But I mean he

2232
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:14,600
was like on on every drug right there, like.

2233
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:15,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, since he didn't even remember.

2234
01:55:16,119 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he went to the hospital like what literally like

2235
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,159
the next day and that's when they told.

2236
01:55:20,079 --> 01:55:22,600
Speaker 4: Him I had it. And there's just it's just there's

2237
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,279
weird stick because like Ricky Starks is also starting to

2238
01:55:25,319 --> 01:55:27,840
be checked out and then he's like, yeah, Jerico, that

2239
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:29,479
one didn't really work. So yeah, I guess it's like

2240
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,960
it's it feels like it's like practice. But uh yeah

2241
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:36,720
for that. Yeah, World's inn and an a w thoughts World,

2242
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:39,119
and I'll give it a quick rundown of what had happened.

2243
01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:45,680
We had the Canno classic Osprey beat Fletcher Aqua defeated Ricochet,

2244
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:49,000
Rick Cheares this gimmick going on. Uh and then o'conda

2245
01:55:49,079 --> 01:55:51,439
beat well Ospry and we got the aforementioned you know,

2246
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:53,800
Ken Omega's back, will he be ready? And then he

2247
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:57,239
wrestles like you know, a banger a week from then.

2248
01:55:57,319 --> 01:56:00,800
But obviously they're doing Ocada versus Kenny at all in

2249
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,640
I think there's a big debate online about trying to

2250
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:06,479
change up. I think t K is pretty set, but

2251
01:56:06,479 --> 01:56:09,159
I hope it will. MGF beat Adam Cole with an

2252
01:56:09,159 --> 01:56:11,199
Adam Cole and his buddies beat him up.

2253
01:56:11,239 --> 01:56:15,239
Speaker 2: So they did this studied era reunion in Orlando to

2254
01:56:15,479 --> 01:56:17,560
like a light crowd reaction.

2255
01:56:18,119 --> 01:56:20,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was not, because it's just it's past that

2256
01:56:21,199 --> 01:56:24,239
uh Money and Chris Statlander had the rematch, and then

2257
01:56:24,319 --> 01:56:26,760
also uh In Marima and thunder Rosa and then you

2258
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,960
all said, Moxley win that four witch, which we've talked

2259
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:33,439
about because what is it? Darby's climb out out for ever?

2260
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:38,520
So will be back till July and Dikesha parasovs. The

2261
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,279
only thing that I thought this was like a decent show.

2262
01:56:40,279 --> 01:56:42,239
This is like a it was like a fine B show.

2263
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:45,399
I thought o'caonda Osprey was great, but they've had many

2264
01:56:45,399 --> 01:56:48,920
great matches before, but I thought I was great, yeah

2265
01:56:49,119 --> 01:56:52,399
like that, And I thought Monette and Chris Statlander they

2266
01:56:52,399 --> 01:56:54,520
didn't get my match the year when we do our

2267
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:56,840
awards here, but that to me was the woman's match

2268
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,600
the year for myself. That was my favorite last year.

2269
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:03,119
And I do think that they gotta give Chris a

2270
01:57:03,159 --> 01:57:05,680
big win here. I keep pitching it. I want her

2271
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:08,439
and moment just like Hot Potato the title for like

2272
01:57:08,479 --> 01:57:11,159
six months, just have like, okay, do a nody Q match,

2273
01:57:11,199 --> 01:57:13,840
do a submission match, do a like just do a

2274
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:15,159
bunch of steps.

2275
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 2: Like I've ever done, like a Hot potatoing of the title.

2276
01:57:22,159 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 4: Other than injury, they did that with the tn T win.

2277
01:57:25,479 --> 01:57:29,399
Ray Phoenix accidentally concussed Moxley, and Moxley was just like

2278
01:57:29,439 --> 01:57:32,960
have them pinned me? Like like he Moxley knew like undone.

2279
01:57:33,039 --> 01:57:35,920
And then right after I think they had I.

2280
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:38,279
Speaker 2: Think that the international title. Yeah, I think they had

2281
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:44,359
beat Ray Phoenix, like.

2282
01:57:43,119 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it went from Orange to mox like two weeks

2283
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:48,760
and then like mox So other than injury, no, and

2284
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:50,720
I love them because I think one can take a

2285
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:55,560
loss she'll be fine. She has two other titles. Yeah,

2286
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:58,680
you're not gonna yeah, right, you're not gonna see her losing. Like, man,

2287
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:00,920
she sucks now it's like no, like he can just

2288
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,359
be like no, Chris has my number. So I was

2289
01:58:03,399 --> 01:58:06,520
kind of disappointed there. And then we've hinted throughout before.

2290
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:09,000
I think I was. I don't say on the internet,

2291
01:58:09,079 --> 01:58:11,359
but in the world. Even some of it was more

2292
01:58:11,359 --> 01:58:12,920
on the camp of like, oh, I'm liking the death

2293
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,479
Rider stuff. I understand why some people don't. For me,

2294
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:18,039
it has like very much jumped the Shark. There was

2295
01:58:18,119 --> 01:58:21,800
already some rockiness. But for me, once they did try

2296
01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:25,800
to kill and express.

2297
01:58:24,359 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 2: That screenshot of monks looking crazy, like in his hoodie

2298
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:31,079
and he's got them ductive to the he's.

2299
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 4: Looking like Joe Pesci from Home Alone. He's looking like

2300
01:58:34,039 --> 01:58:36,960
Harry Like, that's for me where I agree. I can't remember.

2301
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,000
There's a trending tweet it was. It was a quote

2302
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:41,359
tweet off that tweet, the tweet you shared about like

2303
01:58:41,359 --> 01:58:44,000
them no Pop. And I was in that camp of

2304
01:58:44,359 --> 01:58:46,920
when they killed Brian Off and he cut that promo

2305
01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:49,359
of like, hey, people are people.

2306
01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 2: Like that. Shane McMahon was coming.

2307
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 4: Right, there's a higher power. But I liked the setup

2308
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:58,840
of you know what, this company, the people in here,

2309
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:00,600
they need to step up, like they're not on my

2310
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:03,279
level and I'm going to bring them up. That I

2311
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:06,239
like that as far as there's this veteran that he's

2312
01:59:06,319 --> 01:59:08,880
gonna beat you to be better. And even though Orange Cassie,

2313
01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:11,319
I like that, Okay, he's being more violent, he's wearing

2314
01:59:11,319 --> 01:59:14,239
the different colors, you know, black den him. Now. I

2315
01:59:14,359 --> 01:59:16,720
like the idea of I want to challenge the roster

2316
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:19,520
and the soul of aw that's met. But the idea

2317
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:22,000
of like, I want to make everyone better because you know,

2318
01:59:22,479 --> 01:59:23,960
if I'm gonna leave this place, it has to be

2319
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:27,680
better than it was. But now it's transformed into mouth,

2320
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:30,000
you know, the poison in the mouth, throwing Darby down.

2321
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 2: The stairs and everything like they're holding Orange is mouth.

2322
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:40,079
Speaker 4: Like that's where I liked the idea of Moxley, uber competitor,

2323
01:59:40,319 --> 01:59:42,479
how can I make this place better? And it being

2324
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:45,000
wrong right like Fanos being like I want to make

2325
01:59:45,039 --> 01:59:46,960
the world better, let's get rid of half the people,

2326
01:59:47,439 --> 01:59:49,279
and the idea of oh yeah, mox And you're trying

2327
01:59:49,279 --> 01:59:51,439
to make feel better, but you're really hurting them, but

2328
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:55,000
to really hurting them, to killing them is a different level.

2329
01:59:55,359 --> 01:59:59,239
Even then, if FTR is fucking with them, they should

2330
01:59:59,399 --> 02:00:02,520
like what the first promo that Moxley cut about this

2331
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:04,720
idea which I liked the store, I thought, all, this

2332
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:06,600
is gonna be great. Should not go to like you

2333
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:08,760
know what, to get back at them, I'm gonna take

2334
02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:10,359
out the Rock and Roll Express. No, it should be

2335
02:00:10,399 --> 02:00:12,479
I'm gonna beat the shit of cash and dacs. I'm

2336
02:00:12,479 --> 02:00:15,159
gonna beat them up and just squash them show. Yeah,

2337
02:00:15,159 --> 02:00:16,840
you guys aren't on our level. You guys can talk

2338
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:19,119
this game, but look what you're doing. Not beat up

2339
02:00:19,119 --> 02:00:21,279
the seven year old men. And that's where it's gone

2340
02:00:21,319 --> 02:00:24,920
to like mustache vincy, and that's what sucks. It's like

2341
02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:26,840
the same way with the Elite thing that I liked

2342
02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:29,000
the new elitem, Like, Okay, that's here it goes, and

2343
02:00:29,039 --> 02:00:31,199
it's the fall up. They fall down. And I do

2344
02:00:31,319 --> 02:00:32,199
think they.

2345
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:36,079
Speaker 2: On Kenny Omega's birthday cake.

2346
02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that was too much. Yeah, And that's where

2347
02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:41,199
it's like if they do this to July, I do

2348
02:00:41,279 --> 02:00:44,720
think this is going to hurt the company even more

2349
02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:46,600
because I think the main stuff and I'm somebody that

2350
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:50,079
I think Edge, I'm not call them Cope. Edge of Moxley,

2351
02:00:50,159 --> 02:00:53,079
I think is legitimately gonna be really it's gonna be great.

2352
02:00:53,159 --> 02:00:55,079
I think they are gonna have Edge always has great

2353
02:00:55,159 --> 02:00:56,920
chemistry at the Shield guys, and I think Moxy and

2354
02:00:57,039 --> 02:00:59,159
Edge can have some good stuff. I do think that

2355
02:00:59,279 --> 02:01:01,800
is like a pseudo dream match. But I think him

2356
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:05,079
having the title the whole time, I think I'm kind

2357
02:01:05,079 --> 02:01:07,720
of hoping that Christian does cash in one way or

2358
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:10,199
another and they, like I said, Darby can win at

2359
02:01:10,239 --> 02:01:12,239
any point and it can be a feel good And

2360
02:01:12,279 --> 02:01:14,640
my last one is David remembers like when man Kind

2361
02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:17,279
won he Run. He won on a fucking random raw

2362
02:01:17,399 --> 02:01:19,720
main event, and guess what, It's one of the biggest

2363
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:20,880
moments in raw.

2364
02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:22,840
Speaker 3: Because it was everything.

2365
02:01:23,079 --> 02:01:25,800
Speaker 4: Just yeah, it was one of the biggest moments because

2366
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:27,880
it was the underdog finally winning. You can do that

2367
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:30,239
with Darby. He could win on a Dynamite. He can

2368
02:01:30,319 --> 02:01:33,239
win a Gauntland and say tonight, I want you Omega,

2369
02:01:33,239 --> 02:01:36,239
and Omegan be like, yeah, sure, and it's like Darby

2370
02:01:36,279 --> 02:01:38,239
at any point you can do that, and you can

2371
02:01:38,239 --> 02:01:40,199
have him beat Maxley without the title to me, it's

2372
02:01:40,239 --> 02:01:42,760
not even shouldn't even be about the title. It's like,

2373
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:45,520
I don't know, but they've already said Moxley said, you'll

2374
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:48,520
never be world champion, which is weird because like multiple

2375
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:51,479
times Darby has been like inches away from being Moxley,

2376
02:01:51,479 --> 02:01:52,920
so it's not like Moxley squashed him.

2377
02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:57,239
Speaker 2: But that's my thoughts, like it's weird to do the

2378
02:01:57,680 --> 02:02:02,880
thing wanting people to early people who are actually known one.

2379
02:02:03,159 --> 02:02:04,239
I was thinking of the wrong thing.

2380
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:06,039
Speaker 1: Oh.

2381
02:02:06,119 --> 02:02:08,439
Speaker 4: My last point too, is because I have nothing more

2382
02:02:08,439 --> 02:02:11,560
to stay on the World's NAW. If they have Jared

2383
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:14,880
legitimly win the world titled any point, I won't be

2384
02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:17,159
done with to AW because I watched I want I

2385
02:02:17,279 --> 02:02:19,920
like lots of wrestlers. There's lots of great wrestling. It's

2386
02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:22,720
not in that company, but I like, I can no

2387
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:24,880
longer defend Tony con or anything in the.

2388
02:02:26,479 --> 02:02:28,039
Speaker 2: No confidence moment.

2389
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:30,199
Speaker 4: That is my no confidence. I'm fine if you get

2390
02:02:30,279 --> 02:02:32,119
him a match on Dynamo and he gets close, but

2391
02:02:32,199 --> 02:02:34,920
like even MGF and Jared like this is what we're doing.

2392
02:02:35,439 --> 02:02:38,039
I like Jarrett, but he should not be getting fifteen

2393
02:02:38,119 --> 02:02:42,079
minute promo segments that we are in twenty twenty four

2394
02:02:42,479 --> 02:02:45,399
if he's not even aw original. He came from TENA,

2395
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,119
he left WWE because he was a producer.

2396
02:02:48,159 --> 02:02:51,840
Speaker 2: Like well, I forget about the supposed rumor that mgf's

2397
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:54,720
contract could be up soon when we talk about our

2398
02:02:55,279 --> 02:02:56,560
wrestling thing.

2399
02:02:57,359 --> 02:03:00,279
Speaker 4: That's what SRS said on the Raw Review, because he

2400
02:03:00,359 --> 02:03:03,640
said that the idea is twenty twenty four, the bidding

2401
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:06,000
or whatever. But he said that he thinks he signed

2402
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:08,239
a new contract when he like walked out, and that

2403
02:03:08,279 --> 02:03:11,640
was in twenty twenty twenty two, and that is, you know,

2404
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:14,720
gonna be three years. So I don't know. MGF. It's

2405
02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:17,279
tough because I think he's just done almost everything. I

2406
02:03:17,279 --> 02:03:18,600
think you gotta do him and swerve.

2407
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:21,439
Speaker 2: But I do think he is a young up and

2408
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:23,680
comer like Jarrett before he goes for the.

2409
02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:27,760
Speaker 4: Of course yeah yeah, of course yeah, and then maybe after,

2410
02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:33,560
but like he is, he is WW bound whenever that

2411
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:36,439
contracts up, MGF, and I think he needs to. There's

2412
02:03:36,439 --> 02:03:38,159
nothing left for him to do here. I think there's

2413
02:03:38,319 --> 02:03:40,399
whack load. So I know I ranted, but there's a lot.

2414
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:41,800
Just looking at this card, I was like.

2415
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 1: H this was for all. Aw has consistently been great

2416
02:03:46,640 --> 02:03:49,319
at pay per views. This was for me a lackluster

2417
02:03:49,399 --> 02:03:52,359
pay per view. Yes, oh God of Osprey on there.

2418
02:03:52,439 --> 02:03:56,199
They they always do good, but the main event, I mean,

2419
02:03:56,239 --> 02:03:59,319
it's just it was what it was for this match.

2420
02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:03,279
Mariah Maya, I love her to death, but her and

2421
02:04:03,319 --> 02:04:06,159
thunder Rose, it was a disappointment for me, even.

2422
02:04:06,119 --> 02:04:07,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was gonna be better.

2423
02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, a Tijuana street fight. It was just a disappointment.

2424
02:04:12,199 --> 02:04:15,399
So I'm just like it. It is what it is.

2425
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:18,840
It was a pay per view. It's going to further

2426
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:21,640
some storylines. But I agree with you on certain things

2427
02:04:21,680 --> 02:04:25,800
like the whole not being able to win a championship thing,

2428
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:29,399
and I don't know where they're going with the Death Riders,

2429
02:04:29,439 --> 02:04:32,239
the whole let me beat up the old people who

2430
02:04:32,279 --> 02:04:36,000
can't fight back for themselves to galvanize you in order

2431
02:04:36,039 --> 02:04:39,119
to want to fight against us. That's a stupid, played

2432
02:04:39,119 --> 02:04:42,199
out Vince mcmon trope that needs to go away again.

2433
02:04:42,279 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 3: If you want to fight.

2434
02:04:43,560 --> 02:04:47,279
Speaker 1: FTR, just go fight FTR. Like their whole gimmick, are

2435
02:04:47,319 --> 02:04:49,760
guys who like to fight as well, So just be

2436
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:51,079
some guys who like to fight.

2437
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:53,880
Speaker 4: And why Spoksley running away all the time in these

2438
02:04:53,880 --> 02:04:56,840
segments too? It's it's I love.

2439
02:04:57,479 --> 02:05:01,479
Speaker 2: On collision right now, try and look if anything interesting.

2440
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:06,319
Speaker 4: I heard Hangman, who I love, give a great promo,

2441
02:05:06,359 --> 02:05:08,520
And that's another one. I don't hate that one as much,

2442
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:11,319
but the internet fucking hates hang Man and Christopher Daniels.

2443
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:13,560
I do get to extent. I guess I'm just kind

2444
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:15,520
of fine because I guess I like Daniels more than Jared's.

2445
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:17,640
I mean, that's my bias, but that's another one. The

2446
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:20,279
internet is fucking like, how can you do this to

2447
02:05:20,399 --> 02:05:22,239
hang Man? Is with Christopher Daniels.

2448
02:05:22,239 --> 02:05:24,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I will say this when it comes to

2449
02:05:24,920 --> 02:05:27,960
Mox being champion, though, I want to see the belts again.

2450
02:05:28,119 --> 02:05:30,920
Speaker 3: I get that it's in this briefcase.

2451
02:05:31,159 --> 02:05:34,199
Speaker 4: That bugs you. See that doesn't bug me, but you

2452
02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:37,039
brought that multiple times. That's an hERG for you, Like.

2453
02:05:38,239 --> 02:05:43,439
Speaker 1: Aw has all these stupid belts for no reason. Yet

2454
02:05:43,479 --> 02:05:46,399
the world title is sitting in a case somewhere. I

2455
02:05:46,399 --> 02:05:50,600
don't care about all these other belts, and everyone's got

2456
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:56,159
a belt of some sort. I this is your world championship.

2457
02:05:56,239 --> 02:05:59,680
It should be thought of as that price. So yeah,

2458
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:03,800
when and I think if Darby does end up winning

2459
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:06,000
and taking it and getting that big baby face moment.

2460
02:06:06,279 --> 02:06:09,960
It should be like Kofe was with Daniel Brian's belt

2461
02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:13,199
when they bring back and they're like, we're holding this

2462
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:18,159
is the belt, this signifies I am champion, and celebrate

2463
02:06:18,199 --> 02:06:20,560
with it and have that moment. As far as Jared,

2464
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:23,039
I do not want to see him win the championship

2465
02:06:23,119 --> 02:06:25,840
at all. I could see a situation where he has

2466
02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:29,159
a slow descent back into madness and he starts up.

2467
02:06:29,279 --> 02:06:32,479
He starts off on a baby face run and the

2468
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:35,079
more he doesn't get to the title, he gets more

2469
02:06:35,079 --> 02:06:37,359
and more desperate, until you have a match with a

2470
02:06:37,399 --> 02:06:39,359
lot of run ins, a lot of guitar shots, and

2471
02:06:39,399 --> 02:06:41,479
you actually think he's going to come close, and then

2472
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:44,399
he doesn't, and then he rides off into the sunset. Fine,

2473
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:45,880
but he does not need to win.

2474
02:06:47,359 --> 02:06:50,760
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, I suppose wantson win. I can see that smile.

2475
02:06:54,399 --> 02:06:59,039
Speaker 2: I'll say, Jeff jarreted guitar shot does factor into why

2476
02:06:59,159 --> 02:07:01,479
one of the matches is on my top ten matches

2477
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:04,239
list is on my list. But we'll get to that.

2478
02:07:07,199 --> 02:07:08,840
Speaker 4: Was I supposed to be the top ten matches.

2479
02:07:09,319 --> 02:07:11,279
Speaker 2: You didn't have to. I just made.

2480
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:12,960
Speaker 4: That's fine.

2481
02:07:14,199 --> 02:07:19,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, I've got my awards. I've gotten my awards.

2482
02:07:20,039 --> 02:07:22,359
Speaker 4: You know, and that thing. That's why I'm excited drop.

2483
02:07:22,159 --> 02:07:25,520
Speaker 2: Kick works tend just because I really can't like my

2484
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:28,600
number one is I said it earlier. I think I

2485
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:30,920
think it was maybe off there. I don't actually remember,

2486
02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:34,319
but like the my toime, like I have my number

2487
02:07:34,359 --> 02:07:36,800
one pick for Match of the Year, but really all

2488
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:39,199
the matches in my top ten are ones like I

2489
02:07:39,199 --> 02:07:41,039
could watch any day and say, like this is my

2490
02:07:41,119 --> 02:07:41,600
favorite match.

2491
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:45,880
Speaker 4: That's what I'm excited for next year's awards because now

2492
02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:47,800
with drop Kicked, I feel like I can do a

2493
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:49,399
better It's the same letter box.

2494
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:54,079
Speaker 2: Unlog everything I watched because I was sort of like

2495
02:07:54,119 --> 02:07:55,760
a couple of months I kind of dropped in. I

2496
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:57,359
like block some stuff. But this year I want to

2497
02:07:57,399 --> 02:07:59,760
log like every wrestling stuff.

2498
02:08:00,439 --> 02:08:02,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to go back and do the raw

2499
02:08:02,239 --> 02:08:04,680
Netflix and Wrestle Dynasty because I went to go do

2500
02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:05,920
Dynasty and it wasn't on there and.

2501
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:12,960
Speaker 2: That twenty Yeah okay, I think I think just took

2502
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:16,239
longer because like the weekly shows, they like auto update them,

2503
02:08:16,239 --> 02:08:18,399
but I guess that's like a first time show. They

2504
02:08:18,439 --> 02:08:21,239
had to probably like manually put it on there. Something

2505
02:08:21,279 --> 02:08:21,720
like that.

2506
02:08:22,479 --> 02:08:24,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, so okay, so we'll do awards and then we'll

2507
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:27,079
do just a draft update. We'll quick fire. So how

2508
02:08:27,119 --> 02:08:30,640
about we we'll just do well, we will go.

2509
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:33,000
Speaker 2: We can start from I don't know if you guys

2510
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:36,439
wan start from like the top or like the bottom,

2511
02:08:36,439 --> 02:08:38,479
like work back, ending with.

2512
02:08:38,439 --> 02:08:43,479
Speaker 1: Likes with wrestler and Match of the Year. I mean

2513
02:08:43,600 --> 02:08:46,119
we sure you might touch on those later, but we

2514
02:08:46,159 --> 02:08:48,720
will save this. Yeah, we can start bottom up. So

2515
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:49,560
let's start with.

2516
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:55,800
Speaker 3: The Chills Award the most quotable line of the year.

2517
02:08:57,359 --> 02:09:00,239
Speaker 1: And I can tell you, uh, I have a top

2518
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:06,119
I only wrote down four, but three of them have

2519
02:09:06,239 --> 02:09:06,720
a theme.

2520
02:09:07,960 --> 02:09:13,119
Speaker 4: No, just in case in honor of the category.

2521
02:09:13,319 --> 02:09:14,600
Speaker 3: Do we want to.

2522
02:09:16,039 --> 02:09:18,880
Speaker 1: Each of us give our top ones or do we

2523
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:22,399
want to go round robin everyone gives one until we

2524
02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:26,760
run out. I say we each give all of ours

2525
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:27,439
and then move on.

2526
02:09:28,279 --> 02:09:31,319
Speaker 4: I agree, because then we won't be here for another hour.

2527
02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:35,640
Speaker 1: I will go first, my my top one, the one

2528
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:36,680
that loves rent free.

2529
02:09:36,720 --> 02:09:40,640
Speaker 3: In my head is I prayed for this and it happened.

2530
02:09:41,680 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can spoil because I only have two. That

2531
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:45,680
is my number one for the year. I thought.

2532
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:49,680
Speaker 2: That that line at number two.

2533
02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that line is so cold. I remember Drew

2534
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:56,920
dropped that and promo It's like, fuck, that's so because like,

2535
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:58,760
you know, he came in he was acting all sad,

2536
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:00,560
but you know he wasn't sad. But that for me,

2537
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:04,199
that's that's my number one. That line is man so good.

2538
02:10:04,199 --> 02:10:06,399
Whoever gave that to him or he brought up so.

2539
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: Okay, show along those lines and keeping with the same theme. Uh,

2540
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:16,439
my next one is chosen one? Who chose you? Who?

2541
02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:18,520
Speaker 3: What's his name? Hauh say it?

2542
02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:25,039
Speaker 1: That moment that call out, I was like, oh, we're we're.

2543
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:25,560
Speaker 3: Going for it.

2544
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:30,920
Speaker 1: We are are are really doing it. My number three

2545
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:34,560
is you never drink, you never do drugs. You spend

2546
02:10:34,680 --> 02:10:36,399
all your time to get rehab.

2547
02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:40,319
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they're all punk or round punk or anything

2548
02:10:40,399 --> 02:10:42,119
like that, and know that that's a good one.

2549
02:10:42,279 --> 02:10:42,840
Speaker 1: So yeah.

2550
02:10:42,920 --> 02:10:43,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2551
02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:45,880
Speaker 1: So those were my top three and then my number

2552
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:51,039
four was just simply the Rock introducing the term Cody

2553
02:10:51,119 --> 02:10:56,479
cry babies because that was a staple for about a

2554
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:59,720
good two solid weeks in the wrestling community. Was the

2555
02:11:00,119 --> 02:11:00,920
do you cry babies?

2556
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:04,439
Speaker 4: I yeah, I have just to wrap it all up.

2557
02:11:04,720 --> 02:11:07,199
I have it in another category. It's just I know

2558
02:11:07,239 --> 02:11:09,920
it's not in the ring, so it's just multiple rock

2559
02:11:10,119 --> 02:11:12,039
social media rans like a.

2560
02:11:12,079 --> 02:11:15,359
Speaker 2: Video where they're just like like multiple of something or

2561
02:11:15,439 --> 02:11:17,279
like this's in general as like.

2562
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:20,880
Speaker 4: And that's what I had, those drew lines and this

2563
02:11:21,119 --> 02:11:24,560
the that and just kind of in general and stuff.

2564
02:11:24,279 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 2: So I guess, so I'll start with number five. I

2565
02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:32,600
have restored the feelings slashed where the best wrestles slashed,

2566
02:11:32,600 --> 02:11:36,039
the soul of a w and like making fun of it.

2567
02:11:36,119 --> 02:11:41,600
Way at number four, I have I just choked them

2568
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:46,920
a bit. From the Area L interview one three, also

2569
02:11:47,039 --> 02:11:51,039
from the same interview, the word betrayed was used for

2570
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:56,920
him going to raw and the two as I prayed

2571
02:11:56,960 --> 02:11:59,840
for this and it happens. And one is and I

2572
02:12:00,079 --> 02:12:03,560
quote where the mono runstrong dot dot dot just the

2573
02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:10,880
shore as the rock is covered in chills already.

2574
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:13,079
Speaker 4: Just as sure as a rock is covered in chills already.

2575
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:15,600
I don't know the full thing, but I have some

2576
02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:17,760
of it. So yeah, and you know what, shout out

2577
02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:24,199
because now Kirkling, he's taking he's using it. It's what

2578
02:12:24,239 --> 02:12:27,439
the fuck about it? What about it? I use that to.

2579
02:12:28,199 --> 02:12:30,199
Speaker 2: Put on the I feel like we're the only one

2580
02:12:30,239 --> 02:12:30,880
to use it.

2581
02:12:32,239 --> 02:12:34,520
Speaker 4: Starts because when I saw kirklam dropped, like, oh he

2582
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:36,880
saved it when I dropped it, and now he's strong

2583
02:12:36,920 --> 02:12:39,840
because it starts his it's his whole a tune like

2584
02:12:40,039 --> 02:12:42,840
what about? What the fuck about it? Like it's so good.

2585
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:44,640
I cannot wait for that guy. I can't want to

2586
02:12:44,680 --> 02:12:48,600
wait until he's in fucking aw jail and inn w W.

2587
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:50,840
It's like, let him be free for a bit.

2588
02:12:51,039 --> 02:12:55,279
Speaker 1: So let's see what's our next.

2589
02:12:55,159 --> 02:12:59,119
Speaker 2: Keett non wrestling moment, moment that didn't happen.

2590
02:12:59,119 --> 02:13:00,960
Speaker 1: Entering all right.

2591
02:13:01,199 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 3: So for me, number five I have is punk is vindicated.

2592
02:13:06,479 --> 02:13:11,079
Speaker 1: So and that is all because aw decided to put

2593
02:13:11,119 --> 02:13:12,680
out that footage that basically was like.

2594
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:14,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he was telling the truth.

2595
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:19,079
Speaker 2: That moment might be on another one of my awards.

2596
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:21,199
Speaker 3: It is for me as well. That's gonna come back.

2597
02:13:21,439 --> 02:13:27,880
Speaker 1: Number four is the Rustlemania press conference that got a

2598
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:31,800
lot of it and a lot of people's eyes on there.

2599
02:13:32,359 --> 02:13:36,279
Number three Joe Hendry taking over the Internet. Joe Hendry

2600
02:13:36,359 --> 02:13:39,640
became a household people news anchors were quoting about Joe

2601
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:44,279
Hendry and things like that. So number two is the

2602
02:13:44,520 --> 02:13:50,680
Rock's Twitter presence. So all the all those promos from before.

2603
02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:54,720
Everything from the Rock on Twitter has just been amazing,

2604
02:13:54,880 --> 02:14:01,279
Like these were WW centered pros, Like this is building

2605
02:14:01,359 --> 02:14:04,199
a match and he's using the F word, he's calling

2606
02:14:04,279 --> 02:14:06,039
people bitches, he's going left and.

2607
02:14:06,119 --> 02:14:08,439
Speaker 2: Right, and it's just like he was going like twenty

2608
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:11,119
five minutes on Instagram like every day.

2609
02:14:11,239 --> 02:14:13,159
Speaker 4: It was we can do that now.

2610
02:14:13,439 --> 02:14:17,439
Speaker 1: And my number one, uh non restling moment slash moment

2611
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:21,119
that didn't happen in the ring is Hangman the Arsonist.

2612
02:14:22,439 --> 02:14:24,800
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good one. I didn't have that I like.

2613
02:14:27,039 --> 02:14:29,560
Speaker 1: And then the fact that TNT went and used that

2614
02:14:29,840 --> 02:14:33,560
as their Yu'll log for Christmas, that was so good.

2615
02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:35,680
Speaker 4: I put it on a little bit. I just you

2616
02:14:36,159 --> 02:14:38,239
talking about the Rock and the twenty five mint pros now,

2617
02:14:38,279 --> 02:14:41,920
I just instantly think, like, this is him every day again.

2618
02:14:44,960 --> 02:14:47,520
But no, I'm still glad you guys aren't prepared because

2619
02:14:47,560 --> 02:14:50,600
the Hangman one, absolutely, Yeah, that's that's the Toper one.

2620
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:52,720
The only two I had that was I agree with

2621
02:14:52,760 --> 02:14:54,760
you all the Rock stuff. And then for me, just

2622
02:14:54,800 --> 02:14:56,600
because it was a full circle moment, the whole c

2623
02:14:56,840 --> 02:15:01,359
mpunk Ri interview because I was there twenty fourteen, I

2624
02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:04,039
was working at Target. I remember getting that notification like

2625
02:15:04,119 --> 02:15:07,199
cocoa banasy and punk like holy fuck. I remember listening

2626
02:15:07,239 --> 02:15:08,960
to it once I went home, and then me and

2627
02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:10,800
Emily listened to it again, and then they did the

2628
02:15:10,880 --> 02:15:14,319
full week after and that was such a huge That's

2629
02:15:14,359 --> 02:15:16,600
why I've always said Bunk and Roman is the match

2630
02:15:16,680 --> 02:15:20,000
that was a shift in wrestling culture at that time,

2631
02:15:20,520 --> 02:15:23,600
and that was that was really the start of like

2632
02:15:24,079 --> 02:15:27,239
fuck w Dow, Like like I watched you for many years,

2633
02:15:27,279 --> 02:15:29,359
but that I think was the start of people really

2634
02:15:29,399 --> 02:15:31,520
starting to sour on that product, because that was the

2635
02:15:31,880 --> 02:15:34,079
you always hear stuff, but this was the first time

2636
02:15:34,399 --> 02:15:36,479
it was coming from someone that had just worked there. Hey,

2637
02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:38,319
it is all the shit that's going on and the

2638
02:15:38,359 --> 02:15:40,000
stuff that you think is happening that they say, no,

2639
02:15:40,079 --> 02:15:42,479
it's not happening. No, it's happening, and that's where it's

2640
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:44,520
like okay, And that was such a big deal. So

2641
02:15:44,600 --> 02:15:47,199
I felt like this was like the Force Awakened sequel

2642
02:15:47,319 --> 02:15:50,359
to that interview, and it was about aw It was

2643
02:15:50,399 --> 02:15:53,039
about WW as well, but it was about it was

2644
02:15:53,159 --> 02:15:54,880
tons of stuff. There's the thing where.

2645
02:15:54,720 --> 02:15:57,399
Speaker 2: Some wild stuff in that, like the Ben Lost stuff

2646
02:15:57,560 --> 02:15:59,039
is the Ben Lost stuff.

2647
02:15:59,039 --> 02:16:01,279
Speaker 4: It's like I remember be like fuck you gotta you

2648
02:16:01,359 --> 02:16:03,239
can't be talking and stuff like that, you know, and

2649
02:16:03,359 --> 02:16:06,319
it's just like it's crazy and him talking about like

2650
02:16:06,680 --> 02:16:09,439
and yeah, I agree, there's some stuff that he sugarcoats

2651
02:16:09,479 --> 02:16:12,119
now because of a WWE, but of course he's gonna

2652
02:16:12,159 --> 02:16:13,960
do that, you know. And that's where I hope when

2653
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:17,159
they have a second match. On the Chris van Vleet episode,

2654
02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:19,159
I love that ron And said like, oh you know,

2655
02:16:19,279 --> 02:16:21,760
Punk said like I worked for the last guy and

2656
02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:23,399
he loved you and I didn't like him. And he's

2657
02:16:23,439 --> 02:16:26,359
like you didn't like the guy that's running things now either,

2658
02:16:26,439 --> 02:16:28,760
And I'm mad Ronins didn't bring up on TV because

2659
02:16:28,800 --> 02:16:30,520
like that is the thing where like you listen that

2660
02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:34,600
twenty fourteen interview, there's it's so weird, and that's where

2661
02:16:34,600 --> 02:16:37,000
I do agree. Like he says that he hates Vince.

2662
02:16:37,159 --> 02:16:39,719
You listen that podcast, it is more Triple H. Like

2663
02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:43,520
fuck Triple H centric that's the bigger issue. Triple H

2664
02:16:43,680 --> 02:16:45,639
is the one that found out he was getting married

2665
02:16:45,680 --> 02:16:48,559
on a Tuesday and faxed him as firing papers on

2666
02:16:48,719 --> 02:16:51,600
the like Wednesday, like it's Triple H code. So that's

2667
02:16:51,600 --> 02:16:55,079
why this interview is I was such a huge moment

2668
02:16:55,120 --> 02:16:57,079
and they were talking about everything. He talked about aw

2669
02:16:57,239 --> 02:16:59,760
as much as he could, and there's tons of stuff.

2670
02:16:59,799 --> 02:17:01,559
So yeah, that was my Number one was that interview.

2671
02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:04,600
It just felt like a closing a loop finally.

2672
02:17:04,360 --> 02:17:10,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, mine is I took it like very literally,

2673
02:17:10,559 --> 02:17:13,120
so it's like, well, it is non wrestling moments that

2674
02:17:13,239 --> 02:17:15,200
didn't happen in a ring, but it's not stuff like

2675
02:17:15,680 --> 02:17:18,159
the interview or stuff like that, like every much took it.

2676
02:17:18,520 --> 02:17:21,600
So at number five, I had Joe Hendry's NXT debut,

2677
02:17:22,159 --> 02:17:24,040
and I think that one I especially remember it because

2678
02:17:24,040 --> 02:17:26,959
I was literally there in like the row right next

2679
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:30,159
to the to the entry ramp at NXT, and it's

2680
02:17:30,239 --> 02:17:32,840
like probably the like the loudest, one of the loudest

2681
02:17:32,879 --> 02:17:35,520
things I've ever heard was that pot for when he

2682
02:17:35,680 --> 02:17:39,520
when he showed up there. Number four I have like

2683
02:17:40,399 --> 02:17:46,559
all the lips seducing dom segments like leading up to stuff,

2684
02:17:46,920 --> 02:17:50,600
like I especially remember like the ones where they're like

2685
02:17:50,879 --> 02:17:54,879
she's teaching how to stretch Memore's match and like the

2686
02:17:55,079 --> 02:18:00,200
jacket won and yeah there was some great Yeah, so

2687
02:18:00,680 --> 02:18:03,719
just all those leading up to SummerSlam. Three, I have

2688
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:06,079
the Wyatt six reveal.

2689
02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one. That's really good.

2690
02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:09,680
Speaker 1: That's super good.

2691
02:18:10,520 --> 02:18:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Two I have Hangman burning down Swerve's house, and

2692
02:18:15,559 --> 02:18:18,840
number one, I have Rock and Cody in Chicago.

2693
02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:22,600
Speaker 4: That's a great one too. Yeah, that whole Mama Roads

2694
02:18:22,719 --> 02:18:26,000
and you know the stuff that came out after.

2695
02:18:26,280 --> 02:18:28,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're catching out all right.

2696
02:18:29,920 --> 02:18:32,120
Speaker 4: Rock just fully ready behind the bus.

2697
02:18:32,879 --> 02:18:36,040
Speaker 2: There's also that clip, like the behind the clip where

2698
02:18:36,040 --> 02:18:38,719
they're trying to get him to stop because the show's

2699
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:39,360
already over.

2700
02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:43,440
Speaker 4: That's yeah, it's not.

2701
02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:51,399
Speaker 2: Cold and bladed, perfect, like with it raining outside and

2702
02:18:51,639 --> 02:18:55,440
like in the background. Yeah.

2703
02:18:55,559 --> 02:19:00,440
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a top top ten like backstage fights segment,

2704
02:19:00,559 --> 02:19:02,040
like it's yeah, and the.

2705
02:19:02,120 --> 02:19:03,760
Speaker 2: Whole thing leading up to like people are on the

2706
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:06,600
stuff outside of like when he's throwing the trash can

2707
02:19:06,719 --> 02:19:07,559
at Cody and.

2708
02:19:09,079 --> 02:19:13,200
Speaker 3: Cody's brumping all around making his way to the door, and.

2709
02:19:13,319 --> 02:19:14,399
Speaker 1: It is just incredible.

2710
02:19:15,239 --> 02:19:16,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, massacred.

2711
02:19:16,799 --> 02:19:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, let's see, so we have the you

2712
02:19:20,399 --> 02:19:24,399
think your special award for the Feud of the Year. Now,

2713
02:19:24,399 --> 02:19:27,200
if you're a fan of WrestleMania seventeen, you will definitely

2714
02:19:27,280 --> 02:19:30,479
get that reference for the name of the award, but

2715
02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:33,200
so Feud of the Year for feet of the year

2716
02:19:33,360 --> 02:19:36,760
I had see him Punk and Drew McIntyre. I mean,

2717
02:19:36,840 --> 02:19:41,200
they were just incredible. Yeah, I quoted it so much

2718
02:19:41,319 --> 02:19:44,520
in those lines of the year. The match itself was

2719
02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:48,879
a top five possibly even top three match of the year.

2720
02:19:50,399 --> 02:19:54,600
Speaker 3: True's Twitter game is just immaculate.

2721
02:19:55,840 --> 02:19:59,959
Speaker 1: So yeah, everything about them, Punk costing him at Russell Mainia,

2722
02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:02,879
you know, their entire feud after that, even the fact

2723
02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:05,280
that at one point it's all about a bracelet, they

2724
02:20:05,399 --> 02:20:10,479
still were making gold out of this thing of DM

2725
02:20:10,719 --> 02:20:15,559
hunk everything. I just like, I loved all of their feeds.

2726
02:20:15,680 --> 02:20:18,520
So Punk and Drew got it for me.

2727
02:20:20,040 --> 02:20:21,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it was a tie. I got Punk

2728
02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:24,399
and Drew forever. Reason you said, I think that's one

2729
02:20:24,399 --> 02:20:27,159
of the rare feuds that Punk getting hurt actually did help.

2730
02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:29,360
But I think right near the tail end it was like, okay,

2731
02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:31,440
we're going a little too long, but I think and

2732
02:20:31,559 --> 02:20:33,920
it all pretty much at the right amount of time,

2733
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:36,319
like maybe a month earlier. But of course they want

2734
02:20:36,319 --> 02:20:38,000
to do hell and sell bad Blood, so that's fine.

2735
02:20:38,079 --> 02:20:40,719
But uh yeah that and then I have a tie

2736
02:20:40,760 --> 02:20:43,920
with Hangman and Swerve Hangmen Swarf, I absolutely loved. I

2737
02:20:44,079 --> 02:20:47,000
love that they did anytime you can do the double

2738
02:20:47,079 --> 02:20:49,920
turn the bread and Austin. This was more in promos,

2739
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:53,520
but the fact that Swerve invades Hangman's house, now some

2740
02:20:53,639 --> 02:20:56,479
of this does trickle over to twenty twenty three, like

2741
02:20:56,559 --> 02:21:00,120
the Foundation, but for hangmen coming back, and it's like

2742
02:21:00,159 --> 02:21:03,159
the Kevin Owens thing being completely justified. Like this man

2743
02:21:03,280 --> 02:21:06,000
broke in my home. He went in my child's bedroom,

2744
02:21:06,040 --> 02:21:08,280
and you're cheering this fucking guy like fuck all, you

2745
02:21:08,399 --> 02:21:11,239
like it's it's perfect. And the fact that he he's

2746
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:15,399
just become crazier and crazier. You had the whatever no

2747
02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:18,600
non sanctioned match and that was just brutal and stuff

2748
02:21:18,639 --> 02:21:21,200
going on glass and he did whatever the fucking needle was.

2749
02:21:21,600 --> 02:21:26,200
And it's just little stuff like when Hangman he wins

2750
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:28,600
the match and he goes back, but he's like he

2751
02:21:28,760 --> 02:21:31,319
looks back at Swerve and he's only mat He's like

2752
02:21:31,399 --> 02:21:33,399
concerned and he like goes to check but then he

2753
02:21:33,520 --> 02:21:35,440
like snaps back and he's mad again, and you're like,

2754
02:21:36,040 --> 02:21:38,600
what's going through his head? So yeah, that's uh that

2755
02:21:39,159 --> 02:21:41,399
those are the two for me. But Swerve Hangman anytime,

2756
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:44,360
like just this past time and when Ricochet did the

2757
02:21:44,399 --> 02:21:47,680
fake anytime, I got swerve and hangman, that is just

2758
02:21:48,280 --> 02:21:50,920
it's money. It's so funny because I saw the first match.

2759
02:21:51,000 --> 02:21:52,920
Speaker 2: The match he does, Yeah, it was for a second

2760
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:55,280
he has like the like the one that I just

2761
02:21:55,399 --> 02:21:58,000
do space and then he gets angry again.

2762
02:21:58,719 --> 02:22:00,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why I love it's like stuff And

2763
02:22:00,479 --> 02:22:02,040
that's right. No, man, one day we're gonna get that

2764
02:22:02,079 --> 02:22:04,239
tag team. I can't wait for the can they trust

2765
02:22:04,280 --> 02:22:06,600
each other? But and it's so funny because I saw

2766
02:22:06,920 --> 02:22:09,440
when when I was at Wrestle Dreaming twenty three, Like

2767
02:22:09,559 --> 02:22:11,520
I saw their first match and I had no idea

2768
02:22:11,520 --> 02:22:12,879
and it was a great match, but no idea it

2769
02:22:12,959 --> 02:22:14,920
was gonna be come And so yeah, it has to

2770
02:22:14,959 --> 02:22:16,600
be a tie for me those two personal ones.

2771
02:22:16,959 --> 02:22:20,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I had Drew versus Punk as my feud

2772
02:22:20,680 --> 02:22:22,440
of the year, And yeah, I agree with all the

2773
02:22:22,479 --> 02:22:25,200
stuff you guys have said, just like the whole build

2774
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:27,600
to it, and like how they're able to make it

2775
02:22:27,719 --> 02:22:31,079
last so long, even with the injury and just the

2776
02:22:31,159 --> 02:22:34,559
whole promos and the matches and ending with the hell

2777
02:22:34,639 --> 02:22:36,280
and a Stall match was just great.

2778
02:22:37,159 --> 02:22:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2779
02:22:37,600 --> 02:22:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always said that my issue with Helena Sella's

2780
02:22:41,799 --> 02:22:44,959
it got overused. It should be the ender of big

2781
02:22:45,079 --> 02:22:48,360
blood feuds, and this was the perfect type of match

2782
02:22:48,479 --> 02:22:50,159
to end this in and they put on a hell

2783
02:22:50,159 --> 02:22:52,799
of a match to end it. So yeah, that was great.

2784
02:22:52,879 --> 02:22:53,200
Speaker 2: All right.

2785
02:22:53,959 --> 02:23:02,040
Speaker 1: Next up is most improved wrestler. He may take some

2786
02:23:02,079 --> 02:23:05,600
months bridge with this s bove, but I'm going to go, uh,

2787
02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:06,559
Tiffany Stretton.

2788
02:23:07,760 --> 02:23:08,959
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, she.

2789
02:23:10,840 --> 02:23:12,719
Speaker 1: You know, when she first came on the scene, she

2790
02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:15,280
had the daddy's gammick, and then she's been slowly improving.

2791
02:23:15,399 --> 02:23:19,079
She improved a lot in NXT, but this last year

2792
02:23:19,239 --> 02:23:22,319
her on the main roster, not just the winning money

2793
02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:24,959
in the Bang, but a lot of her other matches.

2794
02:23:25,040 --> 02:23:29,079
She has been showing her athleticism, she's been putting on

2795
02:23:29,479 --> 02:23:32,399
on a big stage, and she has not been letting

2796
02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:36,200
down when given the opportunity. So I'm gonna have to

2797
02:23:36,239 --> 02:23:39,000
say Tiffany Stretton is my most improved because she has

2798
02:23:39,120 --> 02:23:41,200
just it's been leaps and bounds for her.

2799
02:23:43,239 --> 02:23:45,719
Speaker 4: All right. Well, I got a female as well, sometimes blonde,

2800
02:23:45,840 --> 02:23:48,559
but not always. I'm going with Chris Statlander because she's

2801
02:23:48,639 --> 02:23:51,559
somebody before this year, No, I wouldn stay I didn't

2802
02:23:51,559 --> 02:23:54,120
care about her, but okay, good solid worker like her,

2803
02:23:54,120 --> 02:23:57,200
whole TBS Championship run. I thought was fine, but it's

2804
02:23:57,239 --> 02:23:59,440
not really that memorable other than she beat Jay Cargill

2805
02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:02,799
and that was it. But between the will Ningale match,

2806
02:24:02,879 --> 02:24:05,280
she had that street fight the two Monet ones. Now

2807
02:24:05,600 --> 02:24:08,000
I look at her and I think it's even it's

2808
02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:11,879
character and the way she presents herself. I do think

2809
02:24:11,959 --> 02:24:14,319
they screwed up by turning her face. I would love

2810
02:24:14,360 --> 02:24:16,399
to see in a six month hey, what if we

2811
02:24:16,559 --> 02:24:18,399
like have her run as a monster. Because after that

2812
02:24:18,479 --> 02:24:20,559
street fight, I was like, man, I want to see

2813
02:24:20,559 --> 02:24:22,440
her go, And it sucks that they did that, So

2814
02:24:22,559 --> 02:24:25,440
I think that is really gonna hurt her potential from growing.

2815
02:24:25,600 --> 02:24:28,600
But the Monet matching, I thought I was hoping that

2816
02:24:28,719 --> 02:24:31,200
that could be her kind of muse in aaw and

2817
02:24:31,319 --> 02:24:33,159
I think it will be. So yeah, I think it's

2818
02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:35,559
just that she was good before. But there's something this

2819
02:24:35,719 --> 02:24:38,360
year where there's multiple matches where I was like, Okay,

2820
02:24:38,719 --> 02:24:40,520
this could be the match of the night. Like I said,

2821
02:24:40,559 --> 02:24:42,760
for me, Money and her had the women's match year

2822
02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:45,360
last year, So yeah, I was statler. Now I'm actively

2823
02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:48,440
when they announced her for something, I'm excited her. Even

2824
02:24:48,479 --> 02:24:50,479
the match she had this week obviously we're in twenty

2825
02:24:50,559 --> 02:24:52,799
twenty five, but her Tony and Will that was another

2826
02:24:52,879 --> 02:24:54,639
fun one as well. That was a good three ways.

2827
02:24:54,680 --> 02:24:57,879
So she's constantly putting out like a like a three

2828
02:24:57,920 --> 02:24:59,879
point seventy five to four quality and like the big

2829
02:25:00,319 --> 02:25:02,840
I'm not saying some random collision against like the local worker,

2830
02:25:02,879 --> 02:25:06,760
but like when some pay per view she's delivering. So uh, yeah, no,

2831
02:25:06,840 --> 02:25:08,879
I got Christatlander are most improved nice.

2832
02:25:09,719 --> 02:25:12,760
Speaker 1: I can definitely see that she's been putting on in

2833
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:16,719
you that does money matches have been just amazing, really

2834
02:25:17,079 --> 02:25:17,760
good show.

2835
02:25:17,639 --> 02:25:18,079
Speaker 4: Off for her.

2836
02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for me. I also have a woman on

2837
02:25:23,319 --> 02:25:26,520
this list, and so no, it is not my goat

2838
02:25:26,639 --> 02:25:30,200
Damien Priest, but it's actually Nia Jackson is my most

2839
02:25:30,280 --> 02:25:35,079
improved Okay, because I think I've enjoyed like every I

2840
02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:37,639
think I've enjoyed every single match that Nia Jackson is

2841
02:25:37,639 --> 02:25:40,079
said this year, I think I can say that, and

2842
02:25:40,159 --> 02:25:43,399
I think she's had some really great ones, Like I

2843
02:25:43,559 --> 02:25:46,920
think I liked the whole mini feud with Becky at

2844
02:25:46,959 --> 02:25:50,760
the start of this year. I think it was done.

2845
02:25:51,479 --> 02:25:54,159
I really like people post that clip of her beating

2846
02:25:54,280 --> 02:25:56,399
Becky on the Day one and the guys in the

2847
02:25:56,479 --> 02:25:59,879
front Row are just so mad. They're just like yelling

2848
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:03,120
and they do the whole breaking the nose spot. But

2849
02:26:03,319 --> 02:26:06,239
like with the Blood Castle and people online were so

2850
02:26:06,440 --> 02:26:10,239
mad at that. But uh yeah, I'm picking Nia Jackson

2851
02:26:10,319 --> 02:26:13,520
my most improved because I just like all her matches

2852
02:26:13,600 --> 02:26:17,360
of someone who like like people didn't really care. I

2853
02:26:17,440 --> 02:26:19,920
think a lot of people see it that, not all,

2854
02:26:20,159 --> 02:26:24,559
not everyone definitely, but I think people have definitely like

2855
02:26:24,760 --> 02:26:25,760
during Moore or Less year.

2856
02:26:26,639 --> 02:26:29,879
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, no, I agree, No, definitely being improvement from

2857
02:26:29,920 --> 02:26:32,559
that original run, which was very tough to wash as

2858
02:26:32,600 --> 02:26:33,360
somebody that was there.

2859
02:26:33,479 --> 02:26:36,319
Speaker 1: So she's she's had a lot of improvements. I don't

2860
02:26:36,319 --> 02:26:39,799
know if I could rock with most improvement, uh, but

2861
02:26:39,920 --> 02:26:43,159
that will come around a little bit later. My reasonings.

2862
02:26:44,639 --> 02:26:48,719
Speaker 3: So ill for this one.

2863
02:26:48,840 --> 02:26:52,920
Speaker 1: We have three to five picks ranked with number one

2864
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:59,159
being the winner, so Breakout Star. My number three is

2865
02:26:59,479 --> 02:27:03,799
Kyle Fleck. I liked him as a tag team, but

2866
02:27:04,719 --> 02:27:08,360
he has really been getting his shine outside of the

2867
02:27:08,559 --> 02:27:11,399
United Empire this solo run. As much as I hate

2868
02:27:11,440 --> 02:27:14,879
Don Kallas, I've liked the work that Kyle Fletcher has

2869
02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:17,920
been doing. He has not only his ring work, but

2870
02:27:18,040 --> 02:27:23,879
his character work has been just amazing. Number two is

2871
02:27:24,479 --> 02:27:28,680
Jacob fasu Uh not only his wild in the ring work,

2872
02:27:28,799 --> 02:27:31,280
but I mean the guy just makes me laugh with

2873
02:27:31,479 --> 02:27:35,799
the whole I Love You solo and just the only

2874
02:27:35,879 --> 02:27:39,600
man I know who can stand for a ten minute

2875
02:27:40,040 --> 02:27:45,000
solo promo and keep the same pose the entire time

2876
02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:48,319
with the menacing face and everything else. Just everything about Jacobazu,

2877
02:27:48,479 --> 02:27:51,159
like my man is here for the business and he's

2878
02:27:51,440 --> 02:27:53,959
he's putting on. He is the best part of the

2879
02:27:54,000 --> 02:27:57,079
New bloodline and I'm all for it. And my number

2880
02:27:57,120 --> 02:28:01,000
one breakout star is Obafemi, who has it's just been

2881
02:28:01,440 --> 02:28:06,680
absolutely dominating. Like I can't remember a time that I've

2882
02:28:06,719 --> 02:28:09,000
tuned into NXT or someone has said, hey, you need

2883
02:28:09,079 --> 02:28:13,399
to watch this match, and Obathimmy has not been putting on.

2884
02:28:13,719 --> 02:28:17,280
So he is my absolute breakout star this year.

2885
02:28:19,159 --> 02:28:21,680
Speaker 4: That's good. I'm not watching NXT as much just agree

2886
02:28:21,719 --> 02:28:23,680
with that. But I feel like just watching from the outside,

2887
02:28:23,760 --> 02:28:25,719
I'd probably agree with that this was a tough one.

2888
02:28:25,719 --> 02:28:28,159
I had multiple people, so it's gonna probably sound weird

2889
02:28:28,159 --> 02:28:30,559
when I say this, but I'm saying Brown Breaker. The

2890
02:28:30,639 --> 02:28:32,239
reason I'm saying this is because like he was like

2891
02:28:32,280 --> 02:28:34,479
a bigger deal when he came in the NXT champions stuff.

2892
02:28:34,680 --> 02:28:38,440
But I feel like he's becoming like he was over,

2893
02:28:38,680 --> 02:28:41,239
but I feel like it's like now he's over over,

2894
02:28:41,440 --> 02:28:43,799
you know, like with the where are my dogs barking

2895
02:28:43,840 --> 02:28:47,079
at all? That he's arrested. That's a fucking tweener, which

2896
02:28:47,159 --> 02:28:51,360
is super not that common nowadays in a WWE world.

2897
02:28:51,559 --> 02:28:54,040
Other companies, sure, but just to be like he's listened

2898
02:28:54,120 --> 02:28:56,280
is like he can flow either way. That shows like

2899
02:28:56,360 --> 02:28:58,479
how popular. And I remember we it was one of

2900
02:28:58,520 --> 02:29:00,479
the few first few episodes we did when he was starting.

2901
02:29:00,520 --> 02:29:02,399
I was like, this guy can't stay a heel for

2902
02:29:02,520 --> 02:29:06,120
this long because the whole the dogs gimmick and the

2903
02:29:06,159 --> 02:29:07,879
other thing is like every time he's in like a

2904
02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:10,719
big title match or pay per view, there's always some

2905
02:29:10,840 --> 02:29:13,120
crazy thing he does and it's like it's being shared

2906
02:29:13,159 --> 02:29:15,479
on Twitter, whether it's him moving the ring or it's

2907
02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:17,799
like he spears someone out of camera. Like I feel

2908
02:29:17,840 --> 02:29:19,719
like that's why I mean that, Sure, it's kind of

2909
02:29:19,719 --> 02:29:21,120
like the Christ and I think, sure he was on

2910
02:29:21,159 --> 02:29:23,280
a level last year, but I feel like that's why

2911
02:29:23,360 --> 02:29:26,159
he's on a different level. And even then I almost

2912
02:29:26,159 --> 02:29:29,559
even thought about putting Jay usso again because last year

2913
02:29:29,639 --> 02:29:31,200
was his breakout year, but now it feels like he

2914
02:29:31,280 --> 02:29:33,879
just keeps getting bigger and bigger, which is kind of crazy.

2915
02:29:33,920 --> 02:29:35,680
But that's where I picked Braun just because I feel

2916
02:29:35,760 --> 02:29:39,040
like now he he really leveled up and he went

2917
02:29:39,079 --> 02:29:41,440
into a guy that like, he's very popular and I

2918
02:29:41,479 --> 02:29:43,399
can see in the main event scene. I don't know

2919
02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:46,000
tomorrow he could he could lose his IC title and

2920
02:29:46,079 --> 02:29:47,840
win the Rumble and I wouldn't blink an eye if

2921
02:29:47,840 --> 02:29:50,000
they're like, yeah, it's Gun there and Braun at WrestleMania,

2922
02:29:50,159 --> 02:29:53,959
I wouldn't think all that, Like that doesn't make sense, Like, no,

2923
02:29:54,120 --> 02:29:55,719
I could. I could see people be more hyped for

2924
02:29:55,760 --> 02:29:58,040
that than him and the Gun there and Seth. You know,

2925
02:29:58,200 --> 02:29:59,920
so I think Braun has just like gone a lot

2926
02:30:00,239 --> 02:30:02,399
more people so like on his side.

2927
02:30:02,479 --> 02:30:06,120
Speaker 2: So okay, Yeah, I do have five picks, and some

2928
02:30:06,239 --> 02:30:09,719
of them are stuff you guys have mentioned. So okay,

2929
02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:12,719
So number five of the Jacob Fatu for the same

2930
02:30:12,799 --> 02:30:16,040
reasons you you mentioned. Yeah, just like even though he

2931
02:30:16,079 --> 02:30:19,879
hasn't actually yeah, just the I Love You solo and

2932
02:30:20,120 --> 02:30:23,000
like people chant that with the with one of his

2933
02:30:23,120 --> 02:30:26,479
moves he does the running hip attack. He charges it

2934
02:30:26,600 --> 02:30:29,760
up with a with and I Love You solo, and yeah,

2935
02:30:29,799 --> 02:30:32,760
he's just like a great talker and just a great

2936
02:30:32,879 --> 02:30:36,200
character and just I'm sure he could probably be number

2937
02:30:36,280 --> 02:30:38,920
one and for next year's awards in terms of.

2938
02:30:39,520 --> 02:30:42,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think next year he's like primed just because

2939
02:30:42,399 --> 02:30:43,879
he was like in the background a bit too much

2940
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:45,760
music because I thought about it, but it's like I

2941
02:30:45,799 --> 02:30:50,639
still can't even name like one great soul matches match.

2942
02:30:51,239 --> 02:30:53,159
Yeah right where this year, I feel like he's gonna

2943
02:30:53,159 --> 02:30:54,399
have a lot of bangers.

2944
02:30:54,639 --> 02:30:58,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, number four I have Chelsea Green. I feel

2945
02:30:58,760 --> 02:31:01,840
like that is a year for her from even just

2946
02:31:02,000 --> 02:31:05,600
having like a great performance in The Rumble, just like

2947
02:31:05,719 --> 02:31:09,200
as a character, it's obviously being in the money in

2948
02:31:09,239 --> 02:31:12,200
the bank match and like all the taking the bump

2949
02:31:12,319 --> 02:31:16,159
off the ladder, through through the tables and obviously winning

2950
02:31:16,239 --> 02:31:19,840
the Women's US Championship and just being like just a

2951
02:31:20,000 --> 02:31:22,559
heel in all of this and just being so popular

2952
02:31:22,639 --> 02:31:25,479
and just like everyone says about Chelseaingan, it's the most

2953
02:31:25,600 --> 02:31:28,920
like maximized your minutes wrestler out.

2954
02:31:28,799 --> 02:31:32,639
Speaker 4: There consistently talked about throughout the whole year, which is

2955
02:31:32,760 --> 02:31:35,000
hard in a role for her because she doesn't get

2956
02:31:35,040 --> 02:31:37,280
that much screen time. Yeah, she's not like like even

2957
02:31:37,360 --> 02:31:39,280
Jacob fought too. He's with the blood line all the time, right,

2958
02:31:39,319 --> 02:31:41,559
like the Chelsea greenwork. She'll miss a week or a couple,

2959
02:31:41,680 --> 02:31:45,200
you know, she'll be just Bringside with Piper. But no,

2960
02:31:45,440 --> 02:31:46,559
that's a good one as well.

2961
02:31:46,799 --> 02:31:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2962
02:31:47,159 --> 02:31:52,600
Speaker 2: Then Number three, I've swerved Strickland like won the aw Championship,

2963
02:31:53,079 --> 02:31:58,120
main evented all in like just a big year, had

2964
02:31:58,319 --> 02:31:59,760
well main event all out too.

2965
02:32:00,760 --> 02:32:03,159
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I guess, yeah, he did the double. Yeah,

2966
02:32:04,280 --> 02:32:06,120
I think I think the only reason it's funny because

2967
02:32:06,120 --> 02:32:08,079
I completely agree with you, it's just because like after

2968
02:32:08,159 --> 02:32:10,440
all Out, he just like disappeared for a while, and

2969
02:32:10,440 --> 02:32:13,920
even then he's just been doing like bowling Ricochet promo.

2970
02:32:14,680 --> 02:32:17,559
Speaker 2: People I didn't have on my lift because they were

2971
02:32:18,280 --> 02:32:22,120
not a breakout start of the whole year like Bronson Reid,

2972
02:32:22,680 --> 02:32:25,360
Like he only he got like the Mega Push only

2973
02:32:25,440 --> 02:32:28,120
in like the last couple of months before like the

2974
02:32:28,520 --> 02:32:31,159
on Raw, like a few months before he was losing

2975
02:32:31,239 --> 02:32:34,280
to like Tazala. Literally that's one of his he's lost

2976
02:32:34,360 --> 02:32:38,920
the on Raw. Yeah, but he would have been one

2977
02:32:38,959 --> 02:32:40,639
of my options. But yeah, I didn't last too long.

2978
02:32:41,079 --> 02:32:44,399
Number two, I have Osprey as a breakout like literally

2979
02:32:44,479 --> 02:32:47,360
going from like like this guy is like known for

2980
02:32:47,520 --> 02:32:50,680
having good matches to being like face of the company

2981
02:32:51,280 --> 02:32:52,760
levels in like a year.

2982
02:32:53,239 --> 02:32:54,959
Speaker 4: I'd say it's like the people being like should he

2983
02:32:55,000 --> 02:32:56,680
beat Swerved like and he was there for like a

2984
02:32:56,799 --> 02:32:57,440
month and I was like.

2985
02:32:57,520 --> 02:33:00,760
Speaker 2: I don't like on his first title defense, and like

2986
02:33:01,000 --> 02:33:03,239
people write in an essay on why it should happen.

2987
02:33:04,600 --> 02:33:09,200
Speaker 1: See as someone who has consistently watched Osprey since twenty seventeen,

2988
02:33:10,200 --> 02:33:11,760
That's why I don't even think about him for a

2989
02:33:11,799 --> 02:33:14,680
breakout star, because he's been in my top three wrestlers

2990
02:33:15,040 --> 02:33:17,479
since he moved up to a heavyweight when he was

2991
02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:21,399
as the champion in Japan beating Gokata and you know,

2992
02:33:21,799 --> 02:33:25,360
having bangor matches with Kenny Omega. Like I've been watching

2993
02:33:26,000 --> 02:33:31,319
his ascension through that. I've watched his PWG stuff, his WCPW,

2994
02:33:31,600 --> 02:33:34,959
his rev pro So for me, like, I never would

2995
02:33:35,000 --> 02:33:38,360
even consider that from someone who hasn't watched him, So

2996
02:33:38,520 --> 02:33:41,799
for you, this is your first introduction. Yeah, that that

2997
02:33:42,040 --> 02:33:43,680
makes a whole lot of sense.

2998
02:33:44,319 --> 02:33:46,360
Speaker 4: And I suppose is alone. I've seen that before. Repeel

2999
02:33:46,360 --> 02:33:48,040
didn't watch that stuff. It was like, okay, a lot

3000
02:33:48,079 --> 02:33:49,639
of hype because there's a chance he could have came

3001
02:33:49,719 --> 02:33:53,120
in like which I'll have about controversial pick. I think

3002
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:54,840
Money when she came in, had that hype in the

3003
02:33:54,920 --> 02:33:57,479
first two months was not good. And that's it was like, okay,

3004
02:33:58,239 --> 02:34:00,559
where I think Ospar was the office where he came

3005
02:34:00,600 --> 02:34:03,239
in and like almost doubled the oh yeah, this guy's

3006
02:34:03,239 --> 02:34:04,799
gonna be great, and I was like, yeah, okay, great

3007
02:34:04,840 --> 02:34:06,479
matches and I was like, oh no, he should be.

3008
02:34:07,040 --> 02:34:11,479
Speaker 2: Like yeah, he only had one match that says completely overrated,

3009
02:34:11,559 --> 02:34:16,040
so you know, for most of the year there, but

3010
02:34:16,319 --> 02:34:20,040
uh yeah, and number one, I have the man himself

3011
02:34:20,200 --> 02:34:24,360
main event Jayu. So yeah, I mean just like that

3012
02:34:24,639 --> 02:34:28,440
backlash France entrance with like the whole crowd with the lights,

3013
02:34:28,559 --> 02:34:31,040
like this is just his year from being a guy

3014
02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:33,520
like he was just like a tag team guy like

3015
02:34:33,600 --> 02:34:36,520
literally forever to be in like one of the top

3016
02:34:36,600 --> 02:34:39,280
stars is yeah, I had to put him number one.

3017
02:34:40,239 --> 02:34:42,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're You're probably right. I probably should just

3018
02:34:42,559 --> 02:34:44,600
go with Ja because it's tough because that same thing

3019
02:34:44,639 --> 02:34:47,040
of like some of his assents started at the end

3020
02:34:47,079 --> 02:34:49,440
of last year, so he started like to give him

3021
02:34:49,479 --> 02:34:51,159
that but it's just like, yeah, you're right. I kind

3022
02:34:51,200 --> 02:34:54,159
of forget the timeline of he didn't really break away

3023
02:34:54,200 --> 02:34:56,239
and they did the USO stare down and everything like that.

3024
02:34:56,399 --> 02:34:59,040
So now Jays they got like, I don't care, they

3025
02:34:59,079 --> 02:35:01,200
gotta strap him up, like they gotta give him world title.

3026
02:35:01,280 --> 02:35:03,360
Like it's just like he's so over and shot.

3027
02:35:03,520 --> 02:35:06,399
Speaker 1: He's had the entrance for a while, but I think

3028
02:35:06,520 --> 02:35:09,159
this is the first year he started the starting from

3029
02:35:09,239 --> 02:35:12,360
the back, clapping it up. Have everyone fallen through, and

3030
02:35:12,559 --> 02:35:17,319
that is I mean, that's one hell of an entrances.

3031
02:35:16,319 --> 02:35:19,879
Speaker 2: And winning the icy title too, winning a singles title

3032
02:35:20,399 --> 02:35:24,239
and like a great match against Ron Breaker. Two. Yeah,

3033
02:35:24,280 --> 02:35:25,280
I remember one.

3034
02:35:26,280 --> 02:35:28,360
Speaker 4: Oh what oh, what are we gonna have to do?

3035
02:35:28,520 --> 02:35:30,440
Is I gotta rapid fire these ones because I gotta

3036
02:35:30,440 --> 02:35:32,680
go feed some twins now because we're at two and

3037
02:35:32,680 --> 02:35:34,799
a half hour something. I gotta'll rap find my awards

3038
02:35:34,840 --> 02:35:36,520
and then I'll dip and then I'll hear what the

3039
02:35:36,840 --> 02:35:39,000
draft is. I'm excited because I can't wait to hear

3040
02:35:39,040 --> 02:35:43,600
my Tiffany Stratton points. But yeah, so I apologize, so

3041
02:35:44,120 --> 02:35:46,239
best free agent, Like I said, this is my controversial

3042
02:35:46,280 --> 02:35:48,680
one because I suppose was right. We couldn't pick Austrey

3043
02:35:48,680 --> 02:35:51,280
because he was signed the year before, so didn't I

3044
02:35:51,399 --> 02:35:53,799
did pick Monet. The reason I did is just because

3045
02:35:54,159 --> 02:35:56,959
things there's multiple matches. Whether it's in I know it's

3046
02:35:57,200 --> 02:35:59,559
not an ativy, but other places where she had great matches.

3047
02:36:00,280 --> 02:36:03,760
Places obviously in aw with stat Lander and with Willow

3048
02:36:03,959 --> 02:36:07,959
great match, and then stuff like Stephanie Vakir, Like I

3049
02:36:08,079 --> 02:36:10,159
know that became such a controversial thing with where she

3050
02:36:10,239 --> 02:36:12,600
going stuff like that, but I do like it might

3051
02:36:12,639 --> 02:36:15,760
be a conspiracy theory. I legituinely believe people saw that.

3052
02:36:15,799 --> 02:36:17,239
I was like, we got to get her. So I

3053
02:36:17,360 --> 02:36:20,239
feel that, like at the signings, I thought about Okay

3054
02:36:20,239 --> 02:36:25,120
who said multiple great matches, promos in ring segments not great.

3055
02:36:25,239 --> 02:36:27,079
I can give you that. That's where it's very tough

3056
02:36:27,360 --> 02:36:29,920
and it's weird because like I thought she could. She's

3057
02:36:29,959 --> 02:36:31,399
been a much better promo in the past. So I

3058
02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:33,719
don't know what happened, but I for me, that's why

3059
02:36:33,760 --> 02:36:36,639
I think for aw Ocatta, I didn't give it there.

3060
02:36:36,719 --> 02:36:38,479
And then there's some in WWE that I could have.

3061
02:36:38,520 --> 02:36:41,040
But I just thought there's multiple instances where and I

3062
02:36:41,120 --> 02:36:43,360
think it's more the back half year she's recovered so

3063
02:36:43,520 --> 02:36:47,639
much from the Britbreaker Monet like match that was tough,

3064
02:36:47,719 --> 02:36:50,360
but I think it's more the start and the end.

3065
02:36:50,760 --> 02:36:54,040
The middle. There's some iffy stuff, but that's Stephanie match,

3066
02:36:54,120 --> 02:36:55,680
Like I didn't see much of Stephanie, and yeah, she

3067
02:36:55,799 --> 02:36:58,760
made her a star and I think she elevated Christatlane

3068
02:36:58,840 --> 02:37:00,399
like she's doing what she used to do. So I

3069
02:37:00,440 --> 02:37:03,319
put mon a worst disappointing match. I did just go

3070
02:37:03,440 --> 02:37:06,159
with thes. I say it's disappointing, not worse, but I

3071
02:37:06,319 --> 02:37:08,680
just thought it was gonna be more story driven and

3072
02:37:08,760 --> 02:37:12,520
we did just get the kicks the Devil's mass Men

3073
02:37:12,719 --> 02:37:16,000
word dumbest booking decision. This might be controversial too because

3074
02:37:16,040 --> 02:37:18,319
it led to great stuff. So I'm happy I'm here

3075
02:37:18,360 --> 02:37:21,040
to say it, but it is Rock taking Cody's spot.

3076
02:37:21,120 --> 02:37:25,000
Speaker 2: Now listen.

3077
02:37:25,239 --> 02:37:28,920
Speaker 4: It obviously led to a fantastic payoff, but if you

3078
02:37:29,120 --> 02:37:35,000
just look at it as an as a pure idea,

3079
02:37:35,840 --> 02:37:38,399
strictly awful and what are you thinking, There's so many

3080
02:37:38,399 --> 02:37:40,399
other ways you could have tried to do that, even

3081
02:37:40,559 --> 02:37:42,520
just like having Cody win the Rumble, because I think

3082
02:37:42,559 --> 02:37:45,040
that was triple h being a fed soldier, like I'm

3083
02:37:45,079 --> 02:37:46,879
gonna make him win the rumble. Fuck these guys, So

3084
02:37:46,920 --> 02:37:49,559
I'm glad you guys agreed. Taking the Year. I really

3085
02:37:49,639 --> 02:37:51,719
had no one, so I just took Espo's word and

3086
02:37:51,799 --> 02:37:53,600
gave it to Phraxi him. Even though I've seen just

3087
02:37:55,600 --> 02:37:58,200
I just see Twitter clips, I'm like, yeah, they look great.

3088
02:37:58,479 --> 02:38:01,000
Show the Year. I gave it a Slamdia forty nine

3089
02:38:01,040 --> 02:38:04,440
two just because offly the Cody Roman thing, big stuff there.

3090
02:38:04,840 --> 02:38:09,079
Match year. I'll listen to suhit on later Osprey and Brian.

3091
02:38:09,280 --> 02:38:11,319
The reason is I thought it lived up to what

3092
02:38:11,399 --> 02:38:13,360
I want from him, and it's an aspray match that

3093
02:38:13,559 --> 02:38:17,280
has emotion, that moment of him taking the thing off

3094
02:38:17,559 --> 02:38:19,520
and Danie Ryank getting up and they did the whole

3095
02:38:19,600 --> 02:38:22,360
injury thing. Obviously, later on the Tiger driver thing kind

3096
02:38:22,360 --> 02:38:24,760
of became a joke, but in the moment I thought

3097
02:38:24,799 --> 02:38:26,920
it was great should he use it? So I think

3098
02:38:27,000 --> 02:38:29,200
it did level up. But I also had a tough

3099
02:38:29,239 --> 02:38:32,239
time not doing Punk and McIntyre cell there, so it's

3100
02:38:32,280 --> 02:38:33,600
like a one A one B for me.

3101
02:38:34,200 --> 02:38:34,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

3102
02:38:34,559 --> 02:38:37,879
Speaker 4: And then finally I have rest of the Year I

3103
02:38:38,079 --> 02:38:39,799
had to give to my boy Cody Rhoades. I had

3104
02:38:39,840 --> 02:38:41,920
a preference that Osprey for me, was the best in

3105
02:38:41,959 --> 02:38:44,799
the ring. Hangman was the best like promo character, but

3106
02:38:44,879 --> 02:38:47,760
the total package. It's Cody Rhodes year, and I had

3107
02:38:47,799 --> 02:38:49,680
to give it to my boy, and I think he

3108
02:38:49,760 --> 02:38:52,559
did a fantastic job being the true quarterback. I know

3109
02:38:52,639 --> 02:38:54,719
he's sitting in the crowd of fucking raw Netflix, but

3110
02:38:55,120 --> 02:38:56,399
I think he's he's the guy.

3111
02:38:56,559 --> 02:38:59,680
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I could, I could see all of those.

3112
02:39:00,159 --> 02:39:02,920
We're pretty close on most of this.

3113
02:39:05,840 --> 02:39:07,959
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm excited to listen. So yeah, I was happy

3114
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:10,079
to jump in here and do this. I'll be back

3115
02:39:10,120 --> 02:39:12,040
for the next one. But yeah, before these kids lose

3116
02:39:12,079 --> 02:39:15,319
it and I'm excited here the draft, I'll catch you guys,

3117
02:39:16,600 --> 02:39:17,399
right Yah.

3118
02:39:18,799 --> 02:39:20,879
Speaker 1: All right, So I guess I will go with my

3119
02:39:21,719 --> 02:39:25,200
best free agent signing, and you know what, I'm going

3120
02:39:25,280 --> 02:39:29,600
to follow his route. I'm going to rapid fire all

3121
02:39:29,680 --> 02:39:32,280
of mine until we get to the best match and

3122
02:39:32,399 --> 02:39:35,920
the best year. So I'll do I'll rapid fire everything

3123
02:39:36,040 --> 02:39:39,520
except for those last two. Uh, then you'll wrap it

3124
02:39:39,600 --> 02:39:41,879
fire yours and then we'll actually go in detail for

3125
02:39:42,280 --> 02:39:44,120
match of the year and rest of the year. So

3126
02:39:44,559 --> 02:39:48,959
best free agent signing, I had four, I had money,

3127
02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:52,399
I had Julia Jade car deal because Jade had been

3128
02:39:52,479 --> 02:39:55,280
on a roll up until she got injured from her

3129
02:39:55,360 --> 02:39:59,399
debut in the Royal World Rumble up until now. And

3130
02:39:59,520 --> 02:40:03,280
then I also I put Stephanie Vaku on there because

3131
02:40:03,280 --> 02:40:04,959
she's been doing good in an x T. But I

3132
02:40:05,040 --> 02:40:08,440
call her one of the best free agent signings because

3133
02:40:08,479 --> 02:40:10,719
that match with Monette and the way that they just

3134
02:40:10,959 --> 02:40:14,319
stole her out of that like that, that is just

3135
02:40:14,600 --> 02:40:16,520
and I mean she's been putting on there.

3136
02:40:16,600 --> 02:40:20,079
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's like in sports, when they do

3137
02:40:20,360 --> 02:40:22,360
a move so good, they have to invent a rule

3138
02:40:22,440 --> 02:40:27,120
around it. That's what happened with them taking her.

3139
02:40:27,760 --> 02:40:30,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is thinking the worst disappointing match Jay and

3140
02:40:31,000 --> 02:40:34,159
Jimmy's on there, But I also have two different Nie

3141
02:40:34,239 --> 02:40:38,120
Jackson matches. That's why I said, So I have Nie

3142
02:40:38,280 --> 02:40:41,920
Jacks versus Jade. The reason that it was disappointing is

3143
02:40:42,040 --> 02:40:47,520
because yes, the DQ so she doesn't she loses her

3144
02:40:47,600 --> 02:40:51,280
undefeated shriek in such a piss poor manner. And then

3145
02:40:51,479 --> 02:40:54,559
Nia Jackson versus Bailey and that's the Hurricane Rono match

3146
02:40:54,879 --> 02:41:00,600
where she goes with her power by herself. Yes, so

3147
02:41:01,319 --> 02:41:04,639
that is my reason behind that the Devil's mass Men

3148
02:41:04,760 --> 02:41:08,440
Award for the worst slash dumbest booking decision. Rock Stills

3149
02:41:08,520 --> 02:41:12,440
Cody Spott is number one. Jericho winning the rh Championship

3150
02:41:12,680 --> 02:41:16,040
is number two. I'm tired of Jericho in these prominent positions.

3151
02:41:16,479 --> 02:41:20,360
And number three worst slash dumbest booking decision was airing

3152
02:41:20,479 --> 02:41:24,079
the CM Punk footage that did nothing for AW whatsoever

3153
02:41:24,520 --> 02:41:27,600
but legitimately make them look bad and make them not

3154
02:41:27,799 --> 02:41:31,760
look as credible. Tag Team of the Year is Fhraxium.

3155
02:41:32,000 --> 02:41:35,719
No One's been as consistent as them all year. From

3156
02:41:35,840 --> 02:41:37,920
the matches I've seen and from the clips I've seen,

3157
02:41:38,040 --> 02:41:43,200
they've been just great show pay per view slash p

3158
02:41:43,399 --> 02:41:45,680
lee of the Year. I went back and forth between

3159
02:41:45,799 --> 02:41:49,040
AW Dynasty and WrestleMania nighte two, but I'm just going

3160
02:41:49,120 --> 02:41:51,280
to have to give it to WrestleMania Night two for

3161
02:41:51,399 --> 02:41:57,159
multiple reasons. The finishing the story, the moment with Seth

3162
02:41:57,399 --> 02:42:02,159
Rollands hobbling out and doing his best there the match

3163
02:42:02,239 --> 02:42:04,440
at the beginning, Drew's match with see Him Punk and

3164
02:42:04,479 --> 02:42:07,959
everything like that was a moment. Drew tweeting in the

3165
02:42:08,000 --> 02:42:11,639
middle of the match, that was a moment so that

3166
02:42:12,319 --> 02:42:14,719
I had to just give it to WrestleMania night too

3167
02:42:14,879 --> 02:42:16,879
for the show of the year. All right, so rapid

3168
02:42:16,959 --> 02:42:19,760
fire yours all the way up until those last two.

3169
02:42:20,719 --> 02:42:25,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So for free agents, I have number four Julia

3170
02:42:26,280 --> 02:42:30,719
uh just speaks for itself. Number three I've Shotlan Benjamin.

3171
02:42:31,200 --> 02:42:33,799
I think like took a guy who wasn't doing anything

3172
02:42:34,079 --> 02:42:36,440
and put him into a prominent ficion he still got

3173
02:42:36,520 --> 02:42:40,479
it like for sure to eat them page like you

3174
02:42:40,559 --> 02:42:43,959
guys said before, like from doing nothing so like NXT

3175
02:42:44,159 --> 02:42:48,639
Champion segment with see him punk the rock like and

3176
02:42:49,000 --> 02:42:52,440
number one, I do have Stephanie with Care for the

3177
02:42:52,559 --> 02:42:54,879
same reasons you listen, and I think she's got I

3178
02:42:55,079 --> 02:42:57,920
like Julia a lot, like I really like Julia. I

3179
02:42:58,000 --> 02:43:04,159
think Stephanie Viccia is a huge future. Yeah for or

3180
02:43:04,200 --> 02:43:07,799
you're gonna say something, Nope, go ahead, okay, worst slash

3181
02:43:07,879 --> 02:43:12,200
most disappointing match for I have Mercedes mon A versus

3182
02:43:12,319 --> 02:43:17,319
Britt Baker all in. Number three, I have an absolute

3183
02:43:17,440 --> 02:43:22,639
dynamite classic, which is j White versus Daddy Ass Billy

3184
02:43:22,719 --> 02:43:26,959
Gun and a banger that ended but with d Q

3185
02:43:27,799 --> 02:43:31,840
he didn't even beat Billy Gun there. Number two I

3186
02:43:31,920 --> 02:43:35,680
have Jimmy u So versus jayu So at Wrestlingia. And

3187
02:43:35,799 --> 02:43:40,360
Number one I have Cody Rhodes versus Soulisicoa at SummerSlam

3188
02:43:41,040 --> 02:43:44,559
for dragging this out so long and it wasn't good

3189
02:43:45,079 --> 02:43:47,959
and it was just forgettable and they had a better

3190
02:43:48,079 --> 02:43:50,840
match like a month later. The steel Cage match is

3191
02:43:50,879 --> 02:43:55,520
like really good and the Summer Slim match was not good. Yeah,

3192
02:43:55,799 --> 02:43:59,239
okay for a double masked Man Award for worst slash

3193
02:43:59,360 --> 02:44:03,079
Thomas Bucky decision. Number one, I have the gable Otis

3194
02:44:03,440 --> 02:44:07,920
feud that just like never continued until like nine months later,

3195
02:44:08,079 --> 02:44:09,719
like they had a hot feud and then just did

3196
02:44:09,840 --> 02:44:14,600
nothing with it. Number four statlander face turn slash. Where

3197
02:44:14,680 --> 02:44:19,520
did Stokely go? Where is he? No one knows? Number

3198
02:44:19,600 --> 02:44:24,920
three I have the Elite Takeover aw as a storyline.

3199
02:44:24,920 --> 02:44:27,959
I could have put the the Tony Kahan pile Driver,

3200
02:44:28,120 --> 02:44:29,799
but that could have been in Best Moments of the

3201
02:44:29,920 --> 02:44:32,360
Year too, but it wasn't a ring so I couldn't

3202
02:44:32,399 --> 02:44:36,719
put it there. Number two i've aw releasing the CM

3203
02:44:36,799 --> 02:44:39,639
punk footage. And number one I have but not at

3204
02:44:39,639 --> 02:44:43,760
Wrestlingia as I said before. Yeah, Tag Team of the

3205
02:44:43,879 --> 02:44:49,040
Year Praxium. Yeah, just same reasons, just completely consistent like

3206
02:44:49,239 --> 02:44:53,920
haven't had a single bad match the entire year. And yeah,

3207
02:44:54,000 --> 02:44:56,280
for my Show of the Year, I went with WRESTLINGIA

3208
02:44:56,600 --> 02:45:00,319
forty in general, but also it's more specifically n too,

3209
02:45:00,840 --> 02:45:03,239
like you said, Yeah, Seth and Drew is just like

3210
02:45:03,360 --> 02:45:06,920
a fantastic match to show. So I had Eo versus Bailey.

3211
02:45:07,639 --> 02:45:11,000
Very underrated match there, I feel, And yeah, the main

3212
02:45:11,079 --> 02:45:13,600
event also and the whole finishing the story thing is

3213
02:45:13,719 --> 02:45:14,079
just great.

3214
02:45:14,879 --> 02:45:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. So those are great ones.

3215
02:45:18,159 --> 02:45:18,479
Speaker 4: All right.

3216
02:45:18,719 --> 02:45:23,239
Speaker 1: So four Match of the Year, and what is the

3217
02:45:23,360 --> 02:45:27,760
surprise to No One? I am going with Osprey versus

3218
02:45:28,120 --> 02:45:32,719
Brian Danielson, Like that was jess to me. That was

3219
02:45:33,079 --> 02:45:37,920
an event. Those guys went all out. You had the

3220
02:45:38,000 --> 02:45:41,559
whole thing with the respect, wouldn't use the Tiger drivers,

3221
02:45:41,680 --> 02:45:45,360
just everything about it. That was an absolute event and

3222
02:45:46,200 --> 02:45:49,600
it was one of the best matches that I've seen

3223
02:45:49,760 --> 02:45:50,840
in a very long time.

3224
02:45:52,559 --> 02:45:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I couldn't give that no selling Indie Flipper

3225
02:45:56,799 --> 02:45:58,879
his match of the year obviously, so I had to

3226
02:45:59,000 --> 02:46:01,879
go with Cody versus is Roman as the match of

3227
02:46:01,879 --> 02:46:06,559
the year. Yeah, this is the Like the Cody versus

3228
02:46:06,639 --> 02:46:09,639
Roman was just like the most exciting match of the

3229
02:46:09,719 --> 02:46:13,159
whole year. For me with like and I think even

3230
02:46:13,239 --> 02:46:17,159
before the run ins and stuff like WrestleMania thirty nine,

3231
02:46:17,159 --> 02:46:20,319
people said that, like before the whole interference is one

3232
02:46:20,319 --> 02:46:24,040
of the best WrestleMania main events. I think just the

3233
02:46:24,159 --> 02:46:27,319
in ring portion of not thirty nine is better. But

3234
02:46:27,440 --> 02:46:32,040
this one still great. Just some great sequences. Roman gun

3235
02:46:32,200 --> 02:46:37,440
Full the bright Lights mode. He's hitting like bridging suplexus

3236
02:46:37,520 --> 02:46:41,799
in this match. But yeah, this is my And if

3237
02:46:41,840 --> 02:46:44,840
you have your other top matches, you can list them

3238
02:46:44,879 --> 02:46:46,600
off also because I in mine as well.

3239
02:46:47,399 --> 02:46:47,600
Speaker 6: I know.

3240
02:46:47,879 --> 02:46:52,479
Speaker 1: So I had some honorable mentions which were Punk and

3241
02:46:52,600 --> 02:46:55,440
Drew and Helen is sal Yes, Roman Cody.

3242
02:46:55,600 --> 02:46:56,760
Speaker 3: It was a great match.

3243
02:46:57,079 --> 02:47:00,840
Speaker 1: I what knocked it out of a time contention for

3244
02:47:01,000 --> 02:47:03,440
me was the fact that it kind of got convoluted

3245
02:47:03,559 --> 02:47:07,680
with another year of run ins and things like that,

3246
02:47:07,959 --> 02:47:12,639
and some of them just again the Undertaker one confronting

3247
02:47:12,680 --> 02:47:15,280
the Rock, Like, I get it, he was there. You

3248
02:47:15,360 --> 02:47:17,520
didn't have stone Cold there. I thought the stone Cold

3249
02:47:17,520 --> 02:47:19,399
thing would have made more sense than the Undertaker, but

3250
02:47:19,520 --> 02:47:24,000
you got to use what you got. But that just

3251
02:47:24,159 --> 02:47:27,200
kind of made it seem a little bit off to me.

3252
02:47:27,360 --> 02:47:30,840
But the redeeming part of that was Seth Rollins coming

3253
02:47:30,879 --> 02:47:34,079
out and doing his thing, and that man couldn't even walk,

3254
02:47:34,200 --> 02:47:37,479
but he still had the gumption to push forward. So

3255
02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:42,680
that was a good one. Another good one, I'm going

3256
02:47:42,760 --> 02:47:45,840
to pull it from a different list that I have

3257
02:47:46,959 --> 02:47:52,840
is Osprey versus Swerve at Forbidden Door was a top

3258
02:47:52,959 --> 02:47:56,159
one for me. Even with Osprey losing that one, that

3259
02:47:56,399 --> 02:48:01,840
was still just a great match. And then another ospray

3260
02:48:01,920 --> 02:48:06,680
match was Osprey versus Michael Oku from Refpro High Stakes,

3261
02:48:06,719 --> 02:48:11,440
which was basically a passing the torch match, Like my

3262
02:48:11,559 --> 02:48:14,159
time with Refpro is done. You were the future and

3263
02:48:14,639 --> 02:48:17,719
I mean those guys put on an absolute banger and

3264
02:48:17,840 --> 02:48:22,799
that just that was February and that match steal lasts

3265
02:48:22,879 --> 02:48:28,360
with me. So but Osprey Danielson is definitely the top

3266
02:48:28,479 --> 02:48:28,760
for me.

3267
02:48:29,799 --> 02:48:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the other ones on my list would be

3268
02:48:32,760 --> 02:48:36,840
Chris Statlander versus Willow the Street Fight, just like an

3269
02:48:36,879 --> 02:48:40,079
amazing match like that one I have to rewatch, but

3270
02:48:40,120 --> 02:48:42,559
I'd probably go to like five stars for that one.

3271
02:48:44,399 --> 02:48:47,159
Staying in Darby Island versus the Young Bucks. This was

3272
02:48:47,200 --> 02:48:50,799
probably like this was extremely close between the Cody and

3273
02:48:50,959 --> 02:48:53,239
Roman one for me, Like for a long time, this

3274
02:48:53,319 --> 02:48:56,520
is probably it's always between these two, but yeah, this

3275
02:48:56,639 --> 02:48:59,680
is an amazing match, that match, and like the whole

3276
02:48:59,760 --> 02:49:03,799
dark jumping off the ladder into the glass spot. Yeah,

3277
02:49:03,840 --> 02:49:06,840
it's just like one of the most memorable moments there.

3278
02:49:08,040 --> 02:49:10,559
I al said, punk and drew the hell in a

3279
02:49:10,719 --> 02:49:14,959
cell match, like you said, Yeah, just great story feud

3280
02:49:15,319 --> 02:49:17,959
ender and just like the brutality of it that you

3281
02:49:18,079 --> 02:49:21,159
hadn't really seen in like WW for a long time.

3282
02:49:23,000 --> 02:49:25,639
I had one that I don't know if many people watch,

3283
02:49:25,719 --> 02:49:29,719
but I love this match. It's EO Sky versus Hyashida.

3284
02:49:30,520 --> 02:49:33,079
I'd have to find her. I don't remember her full

3285
02:49:33,200 --> 02:49:36,120
name I have written down somewhere, but from Marigold. It

3286
02:49:36,319 --> 02:49:39,000
was that same weekend with her and then also aj

3287
02:49:39,159 --> 02:49:41,440
Styles went over to Japan that week. And that's a

3288
02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:46,200
great match, just like Eosky and just like a full

3289
02:49:46,479 --> 02:49:49,399
showing off mode really yeah, and just doing like all

3290
02:49:49,479 --> 02:49:52,840
this stuff, just going like she ends this match with

3291
02:49:53,959 --> 02:49:57,639
with a tombstone into the moon salt, like she does

3292
02:49:57,719 --> 02:49:59,879
the tombstone pile driver and then does the moon Salt

3293
02:50:00,239 --> 02:50:04,360
to finish this match, and it's just a really fun match.

3294
02:50:05,319 --> 02:50:08,920
I have next. I have the Casino Gauntlet from all In.

3295
02:50:10,079 --> 02:50:12,239
I just I just love this match of the debut

3296
02:50:12,280 --> 02:50:15,760
of Ricochet and a W And honestly I mentioned it before,

3297
02:50:15,840 --> 02:50:18,280
but this is really the only match you can say

3298
02:50:18,399 --> 02:50:21,000
that hangman out on Page gets hit by a chair

3299
02:50:21,079 --> 02:50:22,639
shot from Jeff Jarrett.

3300
02:50:22,360 --> 02:50:29,159
Speaker 1: In this match, then oh yeah, go ahead, Oh yeah, I.

3301
02:50:29,200 --> 02:50:30,879
Speaker 2: Was gonna say. Next. I have also a match from

3302
02:50:30,879 --> 02:50:35,159
the same show, and I've swear versus Brian Danielson the

3303
02:50:35,239 --> 02:50:39,200
main event of all in just a fantastic match. There

3304
02:50:39,799 --> 02:50:43,319
was just obviously the entrance of Danielson with the final

3305
02:50:43,440 --> 02:50:45,920
count Dyn the whole story of it, and I thought

3306
02:50:45,959 --> 02:50:48,159
it worked really well. Where the title went on and

3307
02:50:48,280 --> 02:50:51,440
where this led to death Riders, maybe not, but in

3308
02:50:51,559 --> 02:50:55,639
the moment, great story and match there. Then if I

3309
02:50:55,639 --> 02:50:58,440
couldn't really decide, there's so many great matches, but if

3310
02:50:58,479 --> 02:51:01,639
I had to pick one, just one of Praxium versus

3311
02:51:01,920 --> 02:51:05,639
Chase You from NXT Heatwave. This is the one that

3312
02:51:05,760 --> 02:51:09,239
tys rated like on Cage match, and I think Meltzer too,

3313
02:51:09,879 --> 02:51:13,319
but really either one. I think there had three matches,

3314
02:51:13,399 --> 02:51:15,559
but either this one or the No Mercy match are

3315
02:51:15,600 --> 02:51:18,799
both like equally great to me as a tag team match,

3316
02:51:18,879 --> 02:51:21,120
probably the tag team match of the year. Just in

3317
02:51:21,280 --> 02:51:24,920
normal rules outside his sting in Darby, which is the

3318
02:51:25,520 --> 02:51:29,159
different type of match there. Then I have Obafemi versus

3319
02:51:29,319 --> 02:51:33,520
Die Jack versus Josh Briggs from Stand and Deliver. It's

3320
02:51:33,600 --> 02:51:36,719
like the big meaty men match of the year with

3321
02:51:36,959 --> 02:51:38,600
like maybe one of those spots of the year with

3322
02:51:38,719 --> 02:51:42,840
Obafemi carrying die Jack and Josh Briggs at the same

3323
02:51:42,920 --> 02:51:46,520
time and doing like a super death valley driver on

3324
02:51:46,639 --> 02:51:49,639
both them. And this is just like a a big

3325
02:51:49,799 --> 02:51:53,360
hard heading match there and just the great moment of

3326
02:51:53,440 --> 02:51:57,840
his whole reign. And last I have the NXT Championship

3327
02:51:57,920 --> 02:52:03,079
Fatal four way from NXT with Trick William, Sean Spears,

3328
02:52:03,280 --> 02:52:06,959
Javan Evans and Ethan Page. Those are just a fun match,

3329
02:52:07,000 --> 02:52:10,719
so just like plays to all for their strengths and

3330
02:52:10,840 --> 02:52:13,120
had a great crowd, and this is the ending with

3331
02:52:13,600 --> 02:52:18,520
Ethan Page winning the NXC Championship. Yeah, that was my

3332
02:52:18,840 --> 02:52:19,879
my top ten there.

3333
02:52:21,879 --> 02:52:27,399
Speaker 1: Hey, those those are all good choices. You can definitely

3334
02:52:28,239 --> 02:52:32,120
see why you achieve some of those. I forgot about

3335
02:52:32,159 --> 02:52:36,440
that EO match from Japan until just now, so yeah,

3336
02:52:36,479 --> 02:52:39,719
that that was that was a bang of a match.

3337
02:52:41,719 --> 02:52:45,440
Speaker 3: She she did Mace. I remember going back and having

3338
02:52:45,479 --> 02:52:46,040
to watch that.

3339
02:52:46,239 --> 02:52:50,639
Speaker 1: Because of how many people uh talked about just what

3340
02:52:53,719 --> 02:52:58,159
what she did with that match. So yeah, I'm I'm

3341
02:52:58,200 --> 02:53:02,520
all for that. That was a good one. So yeah, no,

3342
02:53:02,680 --> 02:53:07,879
that that's good. So from there we then go on

3343
02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:14,920
to our wrestler there, our our wrestler of the year,

3344
02:53:15,319 --> 02:53:21,360
our top dog, our person that we uh we think

3345
02:53:21,920 --> 02:53:27,319
was the absolute best. So I again, I think it's

3346
02:53:27,719 --> 02:53:33,680
it's pretty clear who mine is and that is the man,

3347
02:53:33,840 --> 02:53:39,399
the myth, the legend, will Osprey, and I will I

3348
02:53:39,440 --> 02:53:42,200
would give you a rundown of will Ospray's year.

3349
02:53:43,559 --> 02:53:49,639
Speaker 3: Will Ospray's year, for the most part, goes like this.

3350
02:53:51,440 --> 02:53:56,600
Speaker 1: January thirteenth, has a banger with Okata at New Japan's

3351
02:53:56,680 --> 02:54:01,000
Battle in the Valley. Then he goes to Impact to

3352
02:54:01,079 --> 02:54:04,239
give the rub to Josh Alexander. The very next night,

3353
02:54:05,200 --> 02:54:08,920
he has the match against Michael Oku at RevPro. A

3354
02:54:09,000 --> 02:54:12,479
month later in February eighteenth, to give Michael Oku the rub.

3355
02:54:14,319 --> 02:54:19,840
March third, he goes against Takeshta at aw Revolution.

3356
02:54:21,920 --> 02:54:23,719
Speaker 3: Then we move on to April.

3357
02:54:23,520 --> 02:54:27,559
Speaker 1: Twenty first, that is him versus Brian Danielson at Dynasty.

3358
02:54:29,520 --> 02:54:33,319
May twenty six, him versus Roddy Strong at Double or

3359
02:54:33,520 --> 02:54:37,719
Nothing where he wins the international title. Three nights later

3360
02:54:37,840 --> 02:54:41,559
he wins the number one contender for the world title.

3361
02:54:42,239 --> 02:54:46,399
Then we get will Asprey versus Swearvet Forbidden Door. That's

3362
02:54:46,520 --> 02:54:50,760
in June. And then July we get will Ospray versus

3363
02:54:51,120 --> 02:54:54,920
mjf on Dynamite where they go just shy of one hour,

3364
02:54:55,120 --> 02:54:59,920
fifty nine minutes in ninety seven seconds. That's July seventeen.

3365
02:55:00,959 --> 02:55:04,120
They have the rematch where will Ospray wins the title

3366
02:55:04,319 --> 02:55:08,319
back at all In on August twenty fifth. Will Ospray

3367
02:55:08,399 --> 02:55:12,399
faced his pocket all Out on the seventh of September.

3368
02:55:13,319 --> 02:55:17,680
Then in October, it's over a month later, he has

3369
02:55:17,840 --> 02:55:21,399
the three way match he did lose, but again excellent

3370
02:55:21,559 --> 02:55:26,760
showing Osprey Ricochet to catch that Russell dream. Then in November,

3371
02:55:27,079 --> 02:55:30,399
will Ospray versus Kyle Fletcher in that full gear match

3372
02:55:30,520 --> 02:55:33,559
that was just an absolute banger. And then he ends

3373
02:55:33,639 --> 02:55:38,840
his year at World's End versus Akata, after already having

3374
02:55:38,920 --> 02:55:42,840
an incredible match earlier that night. This man has been

3375
02:55:42,959 --> 02:55:46,760
putting on, in the words of Seamus, banger after banger

3376
02:55:46,920 --> 02:55:52,520
after banger after banger, will Ospray is that dude.

3377
02:55:53,959 --> 02:55:56,520
Speaker 2: See the problem there is he wasn't drawing money and

3378
02:55:56,639 --> 02:55:59,479
he wasn't telling real cinema like my man the real

3379
02:55:59,520 --> 02:56:01,360
wrestler the year Cody Rhoads.

3380
02:56:03,559 --> 02:56:07,600
Speaker 3: Was Cody drawn or was the Rock and Roman drawing.

3381
02:56:08,840 --> 02:56:09,200
Speaker 4: I don't know.

3382
02:56:10,079 --> 02:56:13,280
Speaker 2: Well, clearly clearly Triple H says he's the quarterback and

3383
02:56:13,360 --> 02:56:16,719
he is no bias against Rock obviously, so Cody Roads

3384
02:56:16,799 --> 02:56:20,600
is the real wrestler. No, Like like Travis said, like

3385
02:56:21,520 --> 02:56:24,239
just the whole story up to wrestling, like the whole

3386
02:56:24,319 --> 02:56:28,879
we want Cody movement, Like he he made Rock change

3387
02:56:29,079 --> 02:56:31,719
from being the corporate Rock that he's been for like

3388
02:56:32,520 --> 02:56:37,559
how many years now, like fifteen years or so, And yeah,

3389
02:56:37,959 --> 02:56:40,719
just the whole story up to winning the title and

3390
02:56:40,799 --> 02:56:44,200
being the champion based to the company the whole year

3391
02:56:44,399 --> 02:56:49,399
and just being the top guy in this whole run

3392
02:56:49,479 --> 02:56:53,000
has been really great and he's had again like a

3393
02:56:53,120 --> 02:56:56,319
lot of good matches I think, also like aj Styles

3394
02:56:56,879 --> 02:57:00,719
in Backlash France, the great match, like I said, the

3395
02:57:01,520 --> 02:57:04,920
surprisingly good Cody Roads versus Toles the Coast, the Old

3396
02:57:04,959 --> 02:57:11,120
Cage match which is actually a really good match. Yeah, oh,

3397
02:57:11,239 --> 02:57:14,559
let's just fell. The Kevin Owns Fewed has been really

3398
02:57:14,639 --> 02:57:19,040
good with some good matches there, But yeah, it was

3399
02:57:19,120 --> 02:57:20,719
just one of those. Like I said when I was

3400
02:57:20,719 --> 02:57:23,479
talking about NXC, it's like when I get invested into

3401
02:57:23,559 --> 02:57:28,559
the characters of specific wrestlers, that's what really makes me

3402
02:57:29,079 --> 02:57:33,600
enjoy them more. And that's definitely the case with Cody Rhoads. Yeah.

3403
02:57:33,719 --> 02:57:37,600
Speaker 1: My my only thing against Cody is I can't without

3404
02:57:37,639 --> 02:57:40,879
a shadow of is out say that Cody is the

3405
02:57:41,799 --> 02:57:44,799
building block behind a lot of that you know you mentioned,

3406
02:57:45,319 --> 02:57:46,200
and I love it.

3407
02:57:46,280 --> 02:57:48,879
Speaker 2: I think I think it relates a lot like uh

3408
02:57:49,319 --> 02:57:51,959
it has to do. I agree with also some picks.

3409
02:57:52,000 --> 02:57:55,520
It definitely bleed over from twenty twenty three in terms

3410
02:57:55,559 --> 02:57:57,879
of like rise and stuff like that.

3411
02:57:58,840 --> 02:58:03,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cody's field is a carryover from last year, a

3412
02:58:03,159 --> 02:58:06,440
lot of those matches. Again, the drawing money at WrestleMania,

3413
02:58:06,639 --> 02:58:08,559
I think that has more to do with the rock

3414
02:58:08,680 --> 02:58:09,879
and the end of the blood line.

3415
02:58:10,079 --> 02:58:13,639
Speaker 2: I was more so joking about about that and calling

3416
02:58:13,719 --> 02:58:16,959
Osprey a no selling indie flipper. I don't think.

3417
02:58:18,840 --> 02:58:22,639
Speaker 1: The Backlash match was incredible, but again it's AJ styles,

3418
02:58:22,799 --> 02:58:27,079
Like if you are not having good matches with the

3419
02:58:27,159 --> 02:58:31,879
AJ styles, you are the problem. His stuff with Kevin

3420
02:58:31,920 --> 02:58:34,760
Owens has been great, but again Kevin Owens is great.

3421
02:58:34,840 --> 02:58:35,799
Speaker 3: I think he's had some.

3422
02:58:36,639 --> 02:58:41,239
Speaker 1: Incredible Dan's partners along the way. Yes, but I don't.

3423
02:58:42,000 --> 02:58:44,879
I wouldn't say in ring like I'm tuning into a

3424
02:58:45,000 --> 02:58:49,600
Cody match expecting it to be just a solid banger,

3425
02:58:49,799 --> 02:58:53,200
like I am a will Ospray match again. Finishing the

3426
02:58:53,280 --> 02:58:55,799
story was great. It was a highlight of my year.

3427
02:58:56,440 --> 02:59:00,440
I was damn near Samantha Irvin over there on the

3428
02:59:00,559 --> 02:59:03,159
sideline when he won. I was happy that he finished

3429
02:59:03,239 --> 02:59:07,280
his story. But if I'm going just absolute banger, it's

3430
02:59:07,319 --> 02:59:08,159
will Osprey bro.

3431
02:59:09,040 --> 02:59:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely agree with that. If you're going just

3432
02:59:11,159 --> 02:59:14,399
purely off in ring, then it's definitely will Ospray, even

3433
02:59:14,479 --> 02:59:17,559
with you know, having a super overrated match in there

3434
02:59:17,600 --> 02:59:20,239
where you know, Cody had his Summer Slam match, so

3435
02:59:20,360 --> 02:59:24,440
I can't fault him there. Oh well, yeah, I can

3436
02:59:24,559 --> 02:59:27,719
actually talk about what I didn't like about the I'd

3437
02:59:27,760 --> 02:59:30,559
still get like like four stars out of five if

3438
02:59:30,600 --> 02:59:32,600
I had to rate it. I just the stuff I

3439
02:59:32,600 --> 02:59:34,840
didn't really like is like I felt like it was

3440
02:59:34,920 --> 02:59:38,840
like everything and it was definitely more so like it

3441
02:59:39,239 --> 02:59:41,600
felt like and I was pretty much taking counts like

3442
02:59:41,840 --> 02:59:44,959
they would hit three moves and then like emo to

3443
02:59:45,120 --> 02:59:48,760
the crowd, like especially Osprey, like it was like three moves,

3444
02:59:48,760 --> 02:59:51,760
they'd go down and then he'd like charge up the crowd,

3445
02:59:51,920 --> 02:59:54,120
and then they'd get up, do three more moves and

3446
02:59:54,200 --> 02:59:56,520
then charge up the crowd, and each sequence would be

3447
02:59:56,639 --> 02:59:59,079
really good. But it was just it felt too like

3448
02:59:59,200 --> 03:00:01,399
stop and start for me the whole match.

3449
03:00:01,920 --> 03:00:06,760
Speaker 1: Also, Cody's got his little entrance with the oversized mask

3450
03:00:06,920 --> 03:00:09,799
and everything, but you're not top in a good Will

3451
03:00:09,879 --> 03:00:13,360
Ospray entrance. I mean, my man's coming out, Assassin's creed.

3452
03:00:14,159 --> 03:00:18,440
He's having all these just incredible, over the top entrances.

3453
03:00:18,600 --> 03:00:22,120
So I don't know that I've gotta again give that

3454
03:00:22,239 --> 03:00:25,239
shout to will Osprey. But now Cody would be my

3455
03:00:25,360 --> 03:00:29,239
number two. Cody would definitely be my number two because yes,

3456
03:00:29,319 --> 03:00:32,159
he does serve the whole package, but I also think

3457
03:00:32,280 --> 03:00:36,399
a lot of his has been very much helped by

3458
03:00:37,360 --> 03:00:41,559
who he's wrestling with. I think that his character work

3459
03:00:41,879 --> 03:00:46,280
is great, but when it comes to the n ring work,

3460
03:00:46,360 --> 03:00:49,840
it is definitely serviced by who he is in there with,

3461
03:00:50,000 --> 03:00:52,639
and you can tell a drop off when he is

3462
03:00:52,760 --> 03:00:53,920
in there with certain people.

3463
03:00:55,159 --> 03:00:58,559
Speaker 2: I guess in that same vein he has Osprey wrestled

3464
03:00:58,680 --> 03:01:03,399
someone like that would be like your solo's to go level.

3465
03:01:04,799 --> 03:01:06,399
I mean, I was like at this, but I'm generally

3466
03:01:06,440 --> 03:01:09,280
thinking like I only remember obviously, like the good matches,

3467
03:01:09,319 --> 03:01:11,639
so I can remember if there was like just this

3468
03:01:12,399 --> 03:01:16,120
Osbury match against just someone like like random or like

3469
03:01:16,239 --> 03:01:18,799
considered to be like not that good.

3470
03:01:19,760 --> 03:01:27,479
Speaker 1: He has had some random matches this year, especially coming

3471
03:01:27,639 --> 03:01:30,879
out of his new Japan work, like his stuff that

3472
03:01:31,040 --> 03:01:38,200
he did with the United Empire. Let's see shot. He said,

3473
03:01:39,040 --> 03:01:42,879
Oh yeah, there was the huge Steelcage match the Bullet

3474
03:01:42,920 --> 03:01:47,520
Club war Dogs versus United Empire. That was amazing. Let's

3475
03:01:47,559 --> 03:01:48,719
see catch.

3476
03:01:50,959 --> 03:01:53,520
Speaker 2: Because I feel like you're saying, like the Dance Partners thing.

3477
03:01:53,639 --> 03:01:56,360
I think obviously Ausbury's rustled a ton of good people too,

3478
03:01:56,680 --> 03:01:59,120
and I'm not playing that down as like he's being

3479
03:01:59,239 --> 03:02:01,680
carried by the or anything. But I feel like he.

3480
03:02:01,760 --> 03:02:08,959
Speaker 1: Went back to back Lee Moriarty and Shane Taylor, Stege

3481
03:02:09,479 --> 03:02:19,040
Colaradi Strong, Kyle O'Reilly, Ray, Phoenix, Brian Cage. He teamed

3482
03:02:19,159 --> 03:02:21,959
Ris were strickling against the Gates of Acany, and I

3483
03:02:22,040 --> 03:02:26,760
actually remember that match from Dynamite and Gates of Agony.

3484
03:02:28,280 --> 03:02:30,799
They are serviceable at best, but they are nothing to

3485
03:02:30,840 --> 03:02:34,120
write home about. And I think that they really made

3486
03:02:34,159 --> 03:02:40,520
that match. Let's see good win against Daniel Garcia, Lance Archer,

3487
03:02:40,719 --> 03:02:43,319
who their styles don't really mesh up.

3488
03:02:47,680 --> 03:02:50,920
Speaker 2: Isn't it. Kenny Oh yeah, Kenny against fighting Brian Cage.

3489
03:02:52,079 --> 03:02:57,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh if he if he doesn't win that, then

3490
03:02:57,159 --> 03:02:59,719
they have definitely dropped the ball. Let's see, he had

3491
03:03:00,200 --> 03:03:05,879
no classic matches against Juice Robinson before Juice Robinson had

3492
03:03:05,920 --> 03:03:11,159
to drop out, Claude Castianelli, Darby, Allen Riy, Koshet, Brodie King,

3493
03:03:12,600 --> 03:03:16,760
Kyle Fletcher, the final match against Okada, and then he

3494
03:03:17,159 --> 03:03:20,360
just had the match against Buddy Matthews. So I mean

3495
03:03:21,399 --> 03:03:24,680
he's had some pretty stellar matches. But then again, aw

3496
03:03:24,920 --> 03:03:28,959
does have a pretty good roster of wrestlers for him

3497
03:03:29,040 --> 03:03:30,040
to go up against.

3498
03:03:31,280 --> 03:03:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I can definitely see her argument with

3499
03:03:35,319 --> 03:03:39,000
with Codys and like definitely been putting him against like

3500
03:03:39,200 --> 03:03:44,120
the top top people. But honestly, that's the idea when

3501
03:03:44,159 --> 03:03:47,840
you want to make someone look good and have good matches,

3502
03:03:47,879 --> 03:03:49,959
which is usly the idea. You don't want to have

3503
03:03:50,079 --> 03:03:52,840
someone go out there and have bad matches. But I

3504
03:03:52,920 --> 03:03:55,920
agree with your point of Osprey just being able to

3505
03:03:56,440 --> 03:04:00,239
deliver against all these different kinds of people. Yeah, so

3506
03:04:00,559 --> 03:04:06,159
I think those two options are probably ninety nine percent

3507
03:04:06,239 --> 03:04:08,879
of people's picks for earlier.

3508
03:04:09,840 --> 03:04:13,840
Speaker 1: I think if Cody did more outside of this bloodline

3509
03:04:13,920 --> 03:04:17,159
stuff and the new bloodline everything like that, to me,

3510
03:04:17,360 --> 03:04:20,120
it would help his stock a little bit more. But

3511
03:04:20,239 --> 03:04:23,479
the fact that it's been a lot of the same

3512
03:04:23,639 --> 03:04:27,479
stuff outside of the AJ match has just been all right,

3513
03:04:27,520 --> 03:04:30,760
we're back here with you and these same people, Like

3514
03:04:30,879 --> 03:04:31,959
I need a break from that.

3515
03:04:32,600 --> 03:04:35,600
Speaker 2: I hope for this year he's able to do some

3516
03:04:35,840 --> 03:04:38,440
more of that. Even maybe if he does lose the

3517
03:04:38,520 --> 03:04:41,559
title at some point, I'm interested to see what kinds

3518
03:04:41,600 --> 03:04:44,440
of feuds he would do there outside of having the title.

3519
03:04:45,559 --> 03:04:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that is our awards picks.

3520
03:04:50,479 --> 03:04:51,680
Speaker 3: For the year.

3521
03:04:53,319 --> 03:04:56,559
Speaker 2: I can do like a very quick draft points update here,

3522
03:04:56,760 --> 03:04:59,760
just so we can end this show here.

3523
03:05:00,479 --> 03:05:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go ahead and check those. Where are we sitting?

3524
03:05:04,159 --> 03:05:07,520
Speaker 3: How bad am I losing right now?

3525
03:05:08,840 --> 03:05:09,040
Speaker 4: Well?

3526
03:05:09,200 --> 03:05:11,399
Speaker 2: I can start with years. I think I have all

3527
03:05:11,479 --> 03:05:12,200
these points here.

3528
03:05:12,360 --> 03:05:15,079
Speaker 3: Okay, so it should be the easiest because it's the lowest.

3529
03:05:16,079 --> 03:05:18,719
Speaker 2: Well, you had a really good good week this week

3530
03:05:18,840 --> 03:05:24,319
with a lot of points, so you have four hundred

3531
03:05:24,360 --> 03:05:29,840
and seven normal points with two hundred or three hundred

3532
03:05:30,479 --> 03:05:38,399
and four bonus points. Then it's me Eric Travis. He

3533
03:05:38,520 --> 03:05:44,920
has five hundred and nineteen normal points with two hundred

3534
03:05:45,120 --> 03:05:50,280
sixty two bonus points, so I believe he's still ahead

3535
03:05:50,319 --> 03:05:56,360
in terms of normal points. Yeah, then I have four

3536
03:05:56,440 --> 03:06:01,760
hundred sixty seven normal points with four hundred and thirteen

3537
03:06:02,079 --> 03:06:07,319
bonus points. So yeah, I guess the next episode will

3538
03:06:07,360 --> 03:06:14,079
be our final draft swaps slash drops of the season

3539
03:06:14,840 --> 03:06:18,959
before the Rumble obviously, and that's really Rumble and Chamber

3540
03:06:19,000 --> 03:06:22,280
are gonna be last chances to get those big swings.

3541
03:06:22,479 --> 03:06:24,760
Those are your fifty pointers there.

3542
03:06:25,559 --> 03:06:29,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see. Yeah, we have Rumble Chamber when Saturday

3543
03:06:29,559 --> 03:06:30,479
Night's main event.

3544
03:06:31,280 --> 03:06:34,920
Speaker 2: A week book Board, cham or Reekbook or Rumble.

3545
03:06:35,280 --> 03:06:41,360
Speaker 1: Gotcha s Yeah. Time time is winding down. Time is

3546
03:06:41,479 --> 03:06:47,959
winding down, and I desperately, desperately need some points. So

3547
03:06:49,479 --> 03:06:54,360
hopefully next time we redraft and do some shuffling, and

3548
03:06:54,920 --> 03:06:58,120
hopefully with this new shuffle that they are doing between

3549
03:06:58,200 --> 03:07:00,719
the shows, that's going to get some new eyes and

3550
03:07:00,799 --> 03:07:05,319
new matchups that will hopefully go in my favor. Yeah,

3551
03:07:07,200 --> 03:07:09,799
that's good, all right, I think that is all the

3552
03:07:09,920 --> 03:07:14,399
topics we had for tonight. So s S Bubs tell

3553
03:07:14,479 --> 03:07:16,399
the folks where they can find you.

3554
03:07:18,719 --> 03:07:22,159
Speaker 2: Just I'm usually just on Twitter at the s Bubs

3555
03:07:22,239 --> 03:07:25,879
Early s Bubs on any social media platform you can

3556
03:07:25,920 --> 03:07:26,559
probably find it.

3557
03:07:29,319 --> 03:07:34,479
Speaker 1: Awesome awesome. I am on All Socials at the Phantom.

3558
03:07:35,799 --> 03:07:40,520
Also here on the Geek First Network under the Marvel

3559
03:07:40,520 --> 03:07:46,079
Alliance show every Thursday night with Chris Balga going over Marvel.

3560
03:07:46,120 --> 03:07:49,680
I'm still filling in for Brent in his absence and

3561
03:07:49,920 --> 03:07:52,520
so well you can find me there. Other than that,

3562
03:07:52,639 --> 03:07:55,879
you can find me on All Socials at the Phantom.

3563
03:07:56,799 --> 03:08:01,440
So I hope everyone has a great week. We've got

3564
03:08:01,680 --> 03:08:05,719
a lot of exciting wrestling coming up, including the debut

3565
03:08:05,799 --> 03:08:09,600
of Penta hopefully knock on wood Cart subject to change

3566
03:08:09,680 --> 03:08:14,479
coming this Monday, and we are about to start, since

3567
03:08:14,520 --> 03:08:19,159
it's January, our road to WrestleMania, so I'm very much

3568
03:08:19,239 --> 03:08:20,040
looking forward to that.

3569
03:08:21,239 --> 03:08:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

3570
03:08:22,479 --> 03:08:25,959
Speaker 1: So we'd like to thank our friend and coach Travis

3571
03:08:25,959 --> 03:08:30,319
sneil Ford dropping in joining us, especially as you saw

3572
03:08:31,000 --> 03:08:34,040
still recovering from his injury. You could check the Geek

3573
03:08:34,120 --> 03:08:36,920
for a channel you can find out a little bit

3574
03:08:37,040 --> 03:08:39,680
more what's going on with the channel as a whole

3575
03:08:39,959 --> 03:08:44,399
and this egregious, egregious thing that has happened to him,

3576
03:08:44,559 --> 03:08:47,239
such a travesty, but we are hoping a speed of

3577
03:08:47,280 --> 03:08:50,319
recovery for our friend. But with that, I will bid

3578
03:08:50,440 --> 03:08:54,479
you all a good night, enjoy your Saturday, enjoy your weekend,

3579
03:08:54,600 --> 03:08:59,159
and we will talk to you again soon. Bye bye,