WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.759 Bonus. 2 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:12.080 Hey, this is Brian, and before we begin, I want 3 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:15.279 to set up the start of this bonus episode. Before 4 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:18.280 we'd hit record, Zachie read me a message he'd received, 5 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:23.519 playfully stating that in our Odyssey review he had gone 6 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:26.000 pretty hard on people who had been bad mouthing the 7 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:29.079 movie before they'd seen it. This led to a conversation 8 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:32.679 between Zachi and I about performative bad mouthing and negativity 9 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:36.560 on the internet, and well, it pretty much picks up 10 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:37.280 right about there. 11 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:44.759 It's it's interesting because because I think what we saw, 12 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:46.960 and this is something I talked about on our show, 13 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:49.399 you know, several years ago, how there was a tendency 14 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:53.399 towards what I call like performative wokeness, and I found 15 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:57.159 that very phony and hollow too, right, So I mean, 16 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:59.079 to me, this is like two peas in a pod, right, 17 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:02.039 These are like, these are the extremes that need each other. 18 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:05.400 Yeah, I mean so much of it is performative now, 19 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:07.840 I mean even the stuff, there's the obvious stuff. 20 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:09.319 You know, I talk about this all the time. 21 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:12.079 I don't want to lump all influencers in with this, 22 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.200 but many influencers have this thing where it's like, Okay, 23 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:17.120 a studio has paid me to go watch this movie. 24 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:18.640 So I'll go in here and put this hat they 25 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:20.439 gave me on, and I'll act like this was the 26 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:24.319 most transcendent night of my life. Yeah, you know, and 27 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:28.200 when it's extra phony and performative and they're playing like 28 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:30.719 a character almost like you know what they're doing, they're 29 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:33.120 act I think these things are directed at adults. I 30 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:35.319 have to imagine, but they're acting like a character out 31 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:38.719 of like a Blues Clues TV show, you know, Like, 32 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:39.599 you know. 33 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:43.040 I saw this movie tonight. You won't believe what it is. 34 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:45.599 It was amazing. My life's different now. 35 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:48.719 And it's like, dude, I you know, like and so 36 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:50.519 that stuff kind of drives me crazy. But I do 37 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.519 think then there are other people, to your point, who 38 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:59.040 aren't acting like they're genuinely angry about certain things, which 39 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:01.920 they aren't. They just know it's going to get them 40 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:07.799 engagement clicks, money, right, and to use your phrase, they 41 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:11.840 are for their own selfish profit microwaving people's brains. 42 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:16.479 Yeah, Like you know, I've used this example before. But 43 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:20.919 back in nineteen eighty nine, there was a movie came 44 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:24.080 out called Batman. I think you've heard of it, and 45 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:26.719 you had a character called Harvey Dent played by a 46 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:30.520 guy called Billy D. Williams. Yes. Now, I'm not gonna 47 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:33.800 speak for you here, but me personally, I saw the 48 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:36.840 movie and then later on I found out that, oh, 49 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:40.479 Harvey Dent is the character two face, and I was like, oh, 50 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:42.960 oh that's cool, you know, And that was the extent 51 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:44.400 of my reaction. At a ten year. 52 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:46.319 Old Lando could be two face cool. 53 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:49.520 That was the extent of my reaction. And I have 54 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:51.800 a feeling very broadly that was the extent of most 55 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:52.719 people's reactions. 56 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:53.319 Yeah. 57 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:58.319 Right, now, cut to you know, twenty twenty six, and 58 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:00.520 we have the Master's of Universe movie. You come out 59 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:05.599 and you have Adris Elba, who is at least as 60 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:07.960 good an actor as Billy D. Williams, at least as 61 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.639 respected cast as Man at arms. And what do we 62 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:13.800 see online? Oh, look at how they're making this woke? 63 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:17.479 I know, I know, right, So this is to me 64 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:22.400 a perfect evocation of how our discourse has, you know, 65 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:24.919 de evolved. 66 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:27.680 Yeah, we didn't used to be like this, That's what 67 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:28.240 I'm saying. 68 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:29.919 It's strange, That's what I'm saying. 69 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:32.000 You know. I was even recently thinking about the movie 70 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:36.400 Independence Day, and just how diverse that cast is. And 71 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:38.719 when that movie came out in nineteen ninety six, I 72 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:40.479 wasn't thinking about how diverse that. 73 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:43.280 Cast was, right, it was just the cast. 74 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:48.360 It's strange, like I love that phrase, the microwaved our brains, 75 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:52.360 they have, and for some people it's scrambled their brains 76 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:54.159 in such a way that now they're spouting stuff that 77 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:57.039 I don't even know that they really feel. They're almost 78 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.719 like regurgitating exact and they're making me, who used to 79 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:02.120 not even think about this stuff, notice things where I'm like, oh, 80 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:04.080 so I's gonna get mad about that, and I don't 81 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:06.000 even like having that thought. I just want to watch 82 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:06.759 the damn movie. 83 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.479 Yeah, you know, it's it's funny because again, like using 84 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:13.000 Eat yourselb as an example, he is objectively one of 85 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:18.279 our great actors absolutely moment, right, and any rational person 86 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.439 is like, holy shit, you got Idris eld Up on 87 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:24.360 Men at Arms? Yeah right, right, that's crazy, right, And 88 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:27.120 by the way, he was great in that movie. And 89 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.040 and so again it's it like, you know, really, let's 90 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.879 drill down here, what is it in you? Not you, 91 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:38.519 not you, Brian? Just the general you point me while 92 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:43.560 I have you, Brian, you that would hear that casting 93 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:48.240 and you're you're just your reflexive go to reaction. The 94 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:52.920 base that you touch home to is oh this is woke. Yeah. 95 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:55.160 I don't think you even understand what that means. 96 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:58.439 You know, I know, And well it makes me think obviously, 97 00:04:58.639 --> 00:04:59.920 well this the this. 98 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:04.560 The Odyssey. Sorry I was I was going to go 99 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:05.680 into like three different directions. 100 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:08.480 But speaking of the movie The Odyssey, where there was 101 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:11.199 this whole discourse about like, well I don't like this 102 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:15.319 actress being cast as this person. Yeah, well actually it 103 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:17.560 turns out they're pretty good in it. Well I don't 104 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:20.800 like that there are armor isn't historically accurate? 105 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.360 Okay, you know what I mean. Like, it's just like. 106 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:28.120 I'm just mad. That's what it distills down to. I'm 107 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.959 just mad. And this is my target now because other 108 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:33.360 people are telling me this is a target this week. 109 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.240 Well my my favorite because because what we're seeing right now, 110 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:39.759 right we're about a week into the Odyssey's run, and 111 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.879 it's it's it's well on its way to making all 112 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:45.759 the money. Yes, if there is money. 113 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.879 It will make it, yes, yes. 114 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:50.319 Uh So people are showing up there enjoying it. I 115 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.959 mean there's sellouts. I mean this it's it's objectively empirically 116 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.199 a massive, massive hit. And this this goes to something 117 00:05:58.199 --> 00:05:59.480 you and I talk about all the time. I guess 118 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.240 what if you it, they will come make stuff people 119 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:04.360 want to see. They're gonna show for it. So now 120 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:07.600 during you know, the folks who had been decrying the 121 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:10.920 movie's release over the last to to you know, four months, now, 122 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:12.759 they're in kind of their version of the stop the 123 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:17.439 Steel moment where they're like, no, the theaters are faking 124 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:19.439 that they're full. I mean real kakamimi stuff. 125 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:23.319 I'm saying, well, I thank god I haven't seen any 126 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:25.800 of that stuff because I just it's I don't know 127 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:26.639 how I miss that. 128 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:28.439 So I see some of it, but not all of it. 129 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:30.319 I haven't set well, you have a healthy you know 130 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:32.600 what's funny, by the way, is I I like to 131 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:36.800 believe I have a healthy life online balance because I 132 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:39.839 don't spend too much time in this stuff in these trenches, 133 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:42.800 you know, but you know, you dip in and I 134 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:46.439 realized that I've like when I use Twitter, I've I've 135 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.360 got a plug in that basically really filters out a 136 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:50.319 lot of shit. 137 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:51.480 A plug in. 138 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:54.399 Yeah. Yeah, so I I don't use the app. I 139 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.519 use it in my browser, and I've got, like I said, 140 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.279 I just put in a plug in that really it 141 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.160 makes it It's still shitty, just to be clear, but 142 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:03.560 it makes it slightly less shitty. 143 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:04.120 Interesting. 144 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:06.600 Okay, so a lot. So it's not really skewing my 145 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:08.920 algorithm very much. But you know, just from talking to 146 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:13.800 people whose whose heads are are are are ensconced in this, 147 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:15.800 you know, like they're dicking dipping their head in a pool, 148 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:19.399 they really see some of this. But I'm like, Ben, 149 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:24.240 I couldn't live like that, you know. Yeah, Like even 150 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:27.560 if I'm I'm paying attention just for critique, I'm like, 151 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:33.519 this is like Donnie Brasco territory, you know, like right right. 152 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:39.000 But I saw, in addition to this, the the oh, 153 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:41.199 the theaters are lying about about the seats being full, 154 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:43.680 which totally that sounds like something a MC would do, right, 155 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.839 Like if people want to watch The Odyssey, they'll be like, sorry, 156 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:51.639 it's sold out, wink, right, That's what Regal is all about, 157 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:55.720 you know. Yeah. But I saw somebody online was like, 158 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.839 uh it posted a picture of Elliott Page and the 159 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.680 Niango in the Odyssey and they're like, well, if their 160 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:07.000 screen time is so short, then why did the studio 161 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:10.079 put them all over the marketing? And it's like, bro, 162 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:10.600 they didn't. 163 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:17.399 No, that's you guys, that's y'all. Yes, yeah, I just 164 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:19.399 I don't know the anger. 165 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:22.120 It's so it's it's weird. I mean, there there's so 166 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:25.240 many see this. This is I had a conversation with 167 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:28.160 this about this rather with my friend with Jahalli over 168 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.240 over the weekend, and we were just talking about the 169 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.519 box office reception to The Odyssey and everything else, and 170 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:35.320 one thing I said is, I think this proves two things. 171 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:41.080 Number one, it proves how well two things. First, it 172 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:45.799 proves that that Elon Musk has utterly destroyed Twitter like 173 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:50.120 any utility it had right is gone. Right because because 174 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.720 by virtue of whatever he's done to that site, algorithmically, 175 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:56.360 he's shown that it has no it, It has no 176 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:59.960 bearing or reflection of the overwhelming majority of humanity. 177 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:01.480 Right, Yeah, good point. 178 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.000 The right. The stuff that people are pissed off about 179 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.360 on that hell site, other people are just living their 180 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:11.360 life and so you know, talk about talk about spending 181 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:13.759 four billion dollars and just throwing it down the drain. 182 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.799 So all of this is I mean, it's it's interesting 183 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:23.679 because the Odyssey, I'm gonna say, even ten years ago, 184 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:27.279 none of this woke discourse or anything would have even 185 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:32.919 plugged in. It would have been a standard four quadrant blockbuster, right, 186 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.559 And so again you see how things have changed, where 187 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.320 again everything is so it's you had you have engagement 188 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:46.399 farmers whose income, whose livelihood is contingent upon you getting 189 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:49.039 pissed off. Yeah, and we got to think about that, 190 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:54.240 you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean shit, I used to man, 191 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:56.360 I used to say this about talk radio back in. 192 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:58.720 The day, you know, yeah, but it didn't have like 193 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:00.399 the reach, you know. 194 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.320 I mean, now we all have the device in our pockets, 195 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:04.519 every single one of us. 196 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:07.679 I mean, it's it's just the next evolution of that, 197 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:07.960 you know. 198 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:11.600 Yeah, And you know, it taps into the way human 199 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:14.480 beings are wired. We're all susceptible to it. It's just 200 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:18.120 some people are able to recognize it and reject it, 201 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:22.919 whereas others just just the way they're wired or whatever 202 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:28.000 insidious way it's reached them, they might more easily fall 203 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:32.120 prey to it, you know, and then get their brains microwaved. 204 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:34.879 Well, that's the thing right, because because we really, I mean, 205 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:40.759 we seek validation, and sometimes that validation comes in some 206 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:45.440 random bot hitting like on whatever stupid nonsense we posted, right, 207 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.679 And and that's that's the problem. You could say something 208 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:56.600 just egregiously stupid, you know, you know, nine to eleven 209 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:02.840 happened because of Steve from Blues Clear, and most people 210 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:05.799 would be like, all right, let's just you know, walk 211 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:08.159 past this guy, you know, yeah, don't make eye contact. 212 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:09.720 But you put that on Twitter, you're gonna have like 213 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:12.559 three people who hit, like three or three accounts that 214 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:15.840 hit like and suddenly you're like, all right, look at this, 215 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:19.120 I got some takers for my shit, you know. Yeah, 216 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:20.480 And that's a problem, you know. 217 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.440 I mean, if you've got enough people willing to kill 218 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:27.320 themselves thinking they'll join a spaceship behind a comet, that's right. 219 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.519 Obviously enough people. 220 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:34.679 Are wired in such a way that they will see 221 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:39.320 that comment to go interesting, you know, that's right. And 222 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:41.120 also I want to say I was making I think 223 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:43.159 what I was just saying right before you were speaking. 224 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:45.679 You know, people who see this stuff and then maybe 225 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.600 they're susceptible and then they get sort of converted or something. 226 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:50.639 I'm making it sound like they're all innocent. Some of 227 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:51.879 them may be, and then they. 228 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:54.879 Do get their their wires fried. But other people they 229 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:56.759 have this darkness in their heart already and they're just 230 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:58.639 being emboldened. So I don't want to make it sound 231 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.879 like all these people are innocent. It is making some 232 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:05.399 people who have these things inside go oh, I can 233 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:08.080 say the quite part loud now, right. 234 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:11.039 I mean, yeah, there is. You know, there has historically 235 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:14.639 been sort of like social regulation. Right, You exist among people, 236 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.360 and and by virtue of having to interact in your 237 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.320 day to day existence, you kind of figure out, you know, 238 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:23.759 the proper way to conduct yourself. And you can call 239 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:30.320 it censorship, self censorship, or just like coexisting, but it's 240 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:33.559 that same thing, right, like, just just how to be right. 241 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:37.840 And far too often social media has actually fed our 242 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:41.960 our anti social instincts, where it's like, well, I just 243 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:44.840 want to say whatever I want and if you don't 244 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:49.519 like it, tough, you know, without any any cost attached, right, 245 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:54.039 And and that's kind of what we're seeing right. Like again, 246 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:58.080 a lot of these folks on the internet, the rage farmers, 247 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:00.320 well they've they've built they've built their brain and they've 248 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:02.720 built their livelihood around it. So they're doing fine, but 249 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:05.639 the people who follow in their footsteps maybe not so much. 250 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:11.000 You know, I think that the success of the the 251 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:15.519 unquestionable success of the Odyssey is maybe this is this 252 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:18.159 is the optimist in me here. Maybe it's the thing 253 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.919 that finally breaks this this mass delusion that somehow social 254 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:23.679 media matters. 255 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:25.080 Yeah. 256 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:28.360 Yeah, you know, because I think there's a lot of 257 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.279 folks who are like tweeters who maybe just kind of 258 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:33.519 listen to These folks are going to watch this movie 259 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:34.960 and be like, I don't know, man, what's the big deal? 260 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:37.919 Yeah? Yeah, I have seen some people do that. 261 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:42.720 So you know, maybe maybe it maybe it took Christopher 262 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:46.919 Nolan to make this happen, you know. 263 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:50.440 Yeah, he was the He's the chosen one, the chosen 264 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:53.039 one for this moment new we Actually I want to 265 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:55.559 ask you were going to see it a second time? 266 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:56.720 Did that pan out? 267 00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:01.039 I'm trying, Okay, it's I've had this convergence off. You know, 268 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.759 we have guests staying over, plus it's a three hour movie, 269 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:08.399 plus trying to get into I'm not even bothering trying 270 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:10.000 to get into a seventy millimeter I just wanted to 271 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:12.720 get into the Fomax in my neighborhood. M Yeah, but 272 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:15.399 even that has been somewhat challenging, so I expect it'll 273 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:17.120 probably be sometime next week hopefully. 274 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:18.200 Yeah. 275 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.960 I've I've spoken with people who are trying to do 276 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:23.440 the IMAX thing and they're like, yeah, no's it's it's 277 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:24.480 booked through August. 278 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:28.120 Yeah, and it's tough because I'm telling people, look, just 279 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:29.679 go see it, go see it on a big screen. 280 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:30.320 You'll be fine. 281 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:32.600 That's what I was saying. I was like, would that 282 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:33.840 be nice? Would that be cool? 283 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.919 Absolutely, and if you get an opportunity, that would be great. 284 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:41.519 But really truly, at the heart of it, it's a 285 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:46.320 great story, Yeah, told in a really exciting and epic way, 286 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:49.000 and just go to the theater and you're you're gonna 287 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:52.879 get that, yeah. 288 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.799 You know, I mean, I guess they've done the work 289 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.799 of making people really want to see the the you know, 290 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.679 the seventy millimeters. I'm a so kudos on the marketing. 291 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.279 Absolutely, yeah, and it will be a. 292 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:06.679 Great experience for sure, you know. And I I I 293 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:10.919 didn't see Odyssey in seventy million, but I saw Oppenheimer 294 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:13.399 and seventy miliary and it was fantastic, So I I 295 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:15.840 know you will get something special, but the movie itself 296 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:20.000 is special too. Yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm hoping, hoping, hoping 297 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:23.720 to catch my second viewing sometime in the coming week. Uh. 298 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:25.840 And of course we got we got Spider Man brand 299 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:28.960 new day coming up. So it's like it's I'm sort 300 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:32.399 of balancing many plates because you know, I have kids 301 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:34.000 who want to watch this and I'm gonna I have 302 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:37.759 like multiple screenings of Spider Man uh in the barrel. 303 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:41.600 Mm hmm. These are these are good problems to have. 304 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:45.720 But yeah, this is because because my wife wants to 305 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:47.559 watch Odyssey and I want to go see it with her. 306 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:51.480 And you know, again it's it's you know, having somebody 307 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:54.840 watch the baby for three hours can be more challenging, 308 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:55.240 you know. 309 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:57.080 Oh man, I can't even imagine. 310 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:00.080 Yeah, I mean three hours, that's just the film, and 311 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:02.919 it's getting to the theater and getting back and you 312 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:04.440 know previews if you're. 313 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:08.200 Yeah, I mean in that sense, we are very fortunate 314 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:10.279 because and you know this because our movie theater is 315 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:12.639 like less than a five minute drive. 316 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:15.559 Yeah, both of us are really lucky, all right. 317 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:19.759 So it's like I'm able to budget based on like, okay, 318 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.519 I know exactly when to park so I can roll 319 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:25.159 into the theater just as the trailers are ending. You know, 320 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:29.200 I'm and this also helps me in that I know 321 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:31.000 this is something you complain about, Like I keep seeing 322 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:33.279 this trailer again and again. I'm like, man, I don't 323 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:34.639 ever see the trailers. 324 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:37.240 Really, Oh my gosh, there, yeah, the cat and the hat. 325 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:39.679 If I had to hear him say did you say 326 00:16:39.720 --> 00:16:41.399 two to fart one more time? 327 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:42.200 I was gonna lose it. 328 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:43.759 I've not seen it even once. 329 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:44.480 Oh really? 330 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:45.000 Yeah? 331 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:45.799 Oh wow? 332 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:48.960 Okay, And I know there's like a Jessica Tastain movie 333 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:51.759 that I guess. Oh yes, what's the story behind this? 334 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:55.679 By the way, so it's called Other Mommy, I think okay. 335 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:58.240 And I was like, other Mother was right there, right, 336 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:00.840 it was right there. It drives me crazy. I've seen 337 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:01.519 it twice now. 338 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:03.799 And the way they do it is it's like an 339 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:08.160 all white screen and it's just like oh t h 340 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:09.119 E R. 341 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:11.319 And I was like, oh, other Mother, genius. 342 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:13.119 If I worked at a studio and you dropped a 343 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:15.440 script on my desk and said other Mother, I'd read 344 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:16.279 it immediately. 345 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:18.039 I don't know why. It's just a great title, but 346 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:21.799 then it's like other Mommy. I was like, no, what, 347 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:26.200 so is this like a horror picture? Yeah? 348 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.240 So it's you know, this is one of those unique 349 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:30.960 things where I don't think people would be talking about 350 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:35.039 this trailer except Odyssey is such a phenomenon that so 351 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:38.359 many people have experienced that everyone is now seeing this 352 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:42.240 particular trailer, and so it's getting talked about like it is. Basically, 353 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:45.480 it starts with Jessica Chestain is this sort of Stepford 354 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:49.559 Wives seeming mother like, oh, hi, do you want some 355 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:52.680 ice cream? You know, like being really sweet to the girl. 356 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:55.119 But then you realize there's something kind of off, and 357 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:57.039 then it turns out that's not really her mom, and 358 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:00.200 it's like some sort of duplicate and the I think 359 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.480 the moment everyone's talking about is the girl then walks 360 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:05.960 into the kitchen in another scene and doesn't see the 361 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.200 mom at the counter, and then she looks down and 362 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:11.920 the Chestain character is all contorted in a weird sort 363 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:16.000 of spidery exorcist sort of way under the counter and 364 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:18.440 it's like a jump scare. Okay, but she's got this 365 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:20.480 big Stepford smile on her face. 366 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:24.000 Hmm. So you know, I don't know, it's like it's 367 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:27.000 scary or funny that moment. 368 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:32.559 To me, Uh, it's creepy. I don't know, Like it didn't. 369 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:35.519 It takes a lot, I think, to really scare me 370 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:36.640 or make me jump these days. 371 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:38.559 But like I understand in a. 372 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:41.200 Fat like inadvertently funny is what I'm asking. 373 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:44.400 Well, you know, that's a good point. 374 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:47.599 If people find it ridiculous, I would in my experience 375 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:50.279 people actually jumped because they're expecting it. 376 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:52.400 Gotcha, It okay, But. 377 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:54.240 That is funny that it's become sort of a thing. 378 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:58.359 I'm actually loving, like all the shared conversation about the 379 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:00.960 experiences of watching this, and like the memes I've been 380 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.400 sending you a lot of the memes. Yeah, the one 381 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:06.799 that cracked me up the most was James Franco from 382 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:08.960 Spider Man two playing Harry Osbourne. 383 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:10.160 Oh that was very funny. 384 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:13.039 He's like walking out of rubble and from the movie. 385 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.279 This is his line in the movie. He goes, I'm ruined. 386 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.000 Oh no, no, over the top, it says me after 387 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:21.240 watching the Odyssey, and then it's Harry Osbourne being. 388 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:24.799 Like, I'm ruined. I have nothing left except Spider Man 389 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:29.200 wrecked by the Odyssey. Bring on Spider Man. 390 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:35.519 What is kind of funny is it seems like the 391 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:42.920 Spider Man marketing is leaning on this is something like 392 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:50.039 smaller scale and lower key to unwind after the odyssey, right, right, right, 393 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:53.519 I mean they're really leaning hard into just ground level 394 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:56.240 Spider Man antics. And isn't that nice? You know? 395 00:19:56.599 --> 00:19:56.839 Right? 396 00:19:58.119 --> 00:19:59.839 And I have a feeling it's gonna work. I mean, 397 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:01.400 I I have no reason to think that movie is 398 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:05.559 not going to perform like Gangbusters, but that is interesting 399 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:10.279 how the center of gravity has shifted, you know, and 400 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:12.240 and you know what, this is Nolan's moment. It's not 401 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:13.240