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<v Speaker 1>City by CARECD talk station, Happy Wednesday. The world's a

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<v Speaker 1>better place. Thank you to Claremont County Prosecutor Mark to Coulby,

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<v Speaker 1>along with assistant prosecutors Christine Detillo and Zachary Zipper, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the Union Township Police Department for all the

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<v Speaker 1>work they did on prosecuting and convicting Charlie Theetterman. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the morning show. How Many County Prosecutor Mark to

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<v Speaker 1>Culvey on behalf of my entire what Joe, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Claremont County Prosecutor Mark to Colby on behalf of my

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<v Speaker 1>entire listening audience and me personally for taking care of

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<v Speaker 1>this vile human being. Let my listeners know about what

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<v Speaker 1>this guy did and what you went through and prosecuting him.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me on my pleasure. It's great

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to communicate with the community about this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of, as you say, vile individual. This involved a

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<v Speaker 2>young woman known to him, under age at the time

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen sixteen years old, and he obviously ninety three counts

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<v Speaker 2>facing up to four hundred and fifty some years in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>This came to light a few years ago. It was

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<v Speaker 2>investigated extraordinarily well by the Union Township Police Department, Chief

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<v Speaker 2>Reese and his detectives did a great job on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Clairemont County Children's Protective Services got involved early on and

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<v Speaker 2>was instrumental and more fully developing the initial allegations so

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<v Speaker 2>the police could do something meaningful with him. This sick individual, theaterman,

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<v Speaker 2>he videotaped every one of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Crimes, ninety three felony charges. We've got rape, growth, sexual imposition,

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<v Speaker 1>sexual battery, pandering and sexual ornament oriented material, involving a minor,

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<v Speaker 1>and tampering with evidence. But he recorded all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>He recorded every bit of it. And with the cooperation

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<v Speaker 2>between my office, the assistants of our highly trained victim

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<v Speaker 2>witness advocates and all of us who pete great heed

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<v Speaker 2>and attention to Marcy's will to protect victims, and with

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<v Speaker 2>the expertise of my assistant prosecutors, mainly Christina Dondolo, who

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<v Speaker 2>has vast experience in protecting and prosecuting these types of

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<v Speaker 2>cases and protecting these types of victims. The jury had

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<v Speaker 2>to sit through days and days of vile, disgusting videos.

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<v Speaker 2>This victim is crying, telling theedman that she hates him.

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<v Speaker 2>But they did their job as in their civic duty.

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<v Speaker 2>They sat through this trial, They deliberate, and they returned

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<v Speaker 2>a verdict of guilty on all accounts. And we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be extremely pleased to go to court for

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<v Speaker 2>his sentencing on August twenty sixth at one pm and

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<v Speaker 2>demand that he received a substantial sentence. One we believe

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<v Speaker 2>it will ensure that he never gets out of prison alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you know, adding insult to injury bad enough

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<v Speaker 1>that he molested this young woman. He represented himself a

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<v Speaker 1>trial and after having to see all of the horror

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<v Speaker 1>that he meted down upon this young woman, he got

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<v Speaker 1>to question her about this. I cannot imagine what was

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<v Speaker 1>going through her head.

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<v Speaker 2>She is one of the most brave and courageous victims.

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<v Speaker 2>If you probably have a good idea how child's sex

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<v Speaker 2>abuse victims suffered this trauma for their entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, came through.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a horrible experience for her. But we met

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<v Speaker 2>with her. My assistants met with her, the victim witness

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<v Speaker 2>advocates met with her and did our best to handle

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<v Speaker 2>her in a respectful and dignified way and still at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time go through these materials that were discussing

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<v Speaker 2>so she could be ready for trial, prepared for trial,

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<v Speaker 2>and that we could secure a conviction against this this

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<v Speaker 2>disgusting pig.

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<v Speaker 1>Well Clarimon County Prosecutor to Caulby, you also illustrate one

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<v Speaker 1>of the more disturbing elements of what law enforcement and

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<v Speaker 1>the other agents he's involved with this have to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>I recall them when my sister, before she retired from

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<v Speaker 1>the CINCINNT Police Department, spent a number of years in

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<v Speaker 1>the Special Crimes Department, which involved yess, in part, molesters

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<v Speaker 1>of children, and the weight of having that on your mind,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that there's this pervert out there probably continuing to

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<v Speaker 1>do this this commit these crimes while you're gathering enough

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to prosecute them. They're still out there, don't I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't go home and sleep at night knowing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you made me think that this opportunity you're

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<v Speaker 2>giving me to speak on your show is it is

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<v Speaker 2>an avenue for me to convey to the public if

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<v Speaker 2>anyone knows of a victim of a crime of any type,

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<v Speaker 2>but in particular this type of crime sexual abuseful child,

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<v Speaker 2>encourage them to come forward. There are many many services

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<v Speaker 2>out there, yes for metal health treatment, and certainly law

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement knows how to investigate these matters. And yeah, there

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<v Speaker 2>enough evidence is here to secure convictions and protect the public.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know the Union Township Police Department did their

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<v Speaker 1>best to look into it. But you're talking about there

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<v Speaker 1>was one single victim with all this video, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was the one that had to testify in court. Are

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<v Speaker 1>there any other victims out there? I mean, you say,

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<v Speaker 1>if you looked, Because usually these perverts are looking for

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities wherever they are.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, you're correct, and that is generally what

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<v Speaker 2>I believe to be true from my experience. We know

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<v Speaker 2>of no other victim.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the good. Did you have some connection? I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of the parents out there that maybe they're one of

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<v Speaker 1>their children is going through this right now and they

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea that it's happening. Is there information or

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<v Speaker 1>advice you can give to parents what to look out for,

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<v Speaker 1>or I mean anything at all by way of advice.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this obviously went on for a long period

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<v Speaker 1>of time, considering the number of charges that were made.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, did. I'm going to hand you off to Christina Dabelo.

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<v Speaker 2>She handles these. She's the chief assistant in my office,

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<v Speaker 2>handles these these horrible sex abuse cases. Again, she's vast experience,

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<v Speaker 2>and she if you don't mind to what I think,

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<v Speaker 2>she can probably give you a better answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Than I'm I'll be more than happy to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>her and thank her in person. Get her on the

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<v Speaker 1>She's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Here you, sir, Good morning. This is Christina Dottello. Your

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<v Speaker 3>question was, are there signs and things that parents could

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<v Speaker 3>look out for? Is that right? Yes, yes, I'd say

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<v Speaker 3>primarily a lot of kids who are being abused tend

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<v Speaker 3>to start dressing differently. They if it's a female who

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<v Speaker 3>who is being abused, she often wants to associate with boys,

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<v Speaker 3>wants to be a boy, wants to change her name

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<v Speaker 3>to a boy or something else, wants to start dressing differently.

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<v Speaker 3>They've often told me and my coworkers that they want

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<v Speaker 3>to associate with anything but the gender that they were

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<v Speaker 3>because that gender is what keeps getting abused. So that's

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<v Speaker 3>one big thing. Another thing is ifanging and sleep habits,

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<v Speaker 3>eating habits, if they start withdrawing from friends, family, just

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<v Speaker 3>big change in behavior. But one of the big ones

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<v Speaker 3>is there are a lot of kids changing their names

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<v Speaker 3>right now and changing their genders and their identities that's

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<v Speaker 3>a huge one.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that. I've never heard that before. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Now did she have any connection with

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<v Speaker 1>hear it's the uncle who was involved. I mean, are

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<v Speaker 1>there warning signs for parents to look out for for

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<v Speaker 1>people who are you know, connected with the family in

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<v Speaker 1>some way that brings them around regularly that is suggested

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<v Speaker 1>that their behavior is inappropriate and maybe something's going on

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes that they need to keep their eye

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think it's just common sense. Keep your

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<v Speaker 3>eye open, your eyes open, if you see something that

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<v Speaker 3>strikes you as a little odd, then look into it

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<v Speaker 3>because it might be Trust your instincts, and I am

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<v Speaker 3>going to hand you back to Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank thank you on behalf of the entire community,

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<v Speaker 1>Assistant prosecutor. That it's just I really truly pre what

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<v Speaker 1>you do and what you go through on behalf of

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<v Speaker 1>protecting children, because I could not personally cope with having

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<v Speaker 1>to look at this type of evidence. It just it

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<v Speaker 1>brings up bio in my throat to even talk.

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<v Speaker 3>About it, I know, And that's why I appreciate Mark

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<v Speaker 3>so much, because he's given me the opportunity to handle

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<v Speaker 3>cases like these, and that's my primary focus, which makes

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<v Speaker 3>me better at it. So I have to thank my boss,

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Tokolby for allowing me to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a good man, and you obviously are not

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<v Speaker 1>standing assistant prosecutor. Well, but you don't need to give

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<v Speaker 1>back just I have an evidentiary question to ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a litigation attorney, but I practice it exclusively

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<v Speaker 1>in civil litigation. So in spite of my knowledge of

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<v Speaker 1>the criminal justice system, I'm just wondering, from an evidentiary perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>was there any way to prosecute this case without having

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<v Speaker 1>to provide all of this video, every single one of

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<v Speaker 1>them to the jury for the trial. I mean, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>like an illustration of it enough so they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to suffer through it?

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<v Speaker 3>As far as providing the video to the jury, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the best evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hate to hear that.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. Here is my boss. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 3>for you. Thank you very much, Brian, Thank you for much.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Kama County Prosecutor Mark to Calvey again, congratulations on the

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<v Speaker 1>outstanding work. I know you're hard at work on other

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<v Speaker 1>cases out there. Did how did this first come on

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<v Speaker 1>your radar? If I could ask real quick because it

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<v Speaker 1>took obviously it sounded like several years from start to finish.

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<v Speaker 2>As most cases do. There's a report to somehow gets

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<v Speaker 2>filtered to the police department of all involved in time

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<v Speaker 2>Union Township, who we work very closely with all law

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement agencies from the outset. They don't just bundle up

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<v Speaker 2>a case and bring it to us. When they have

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<v Speaker 2>an emerging investigation today, they get a hold of us

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<v Speaker 2>right away. We're typically there on the ground floor with them,

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<v Speaker 2>working together with them to put together the best case

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<v Speaker 2>we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly you did in this case. Well, I hope he

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<v Speaker 1>gets all four hundred and fifty years he's eligible for.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll have a great time prison giving these a child molester.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know that, Clairemont County Prosecutor to Calby, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for spending time with my listeners and

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<v Speaker 1>me this morning on this case and for the great

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<v Speaker 1>work you did leading up to the prosecution. I'll look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to the sentencing day which is coming up August

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixth one if you want to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Bi Brian, let me close out with this, Nashield.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week is National Police Night Out. Oh yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>there Tuesday. The Sheriff's office and Goshen PD and Milford

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<v Speaker 2>p D and Miami Township PD have theirs. Peerce Township

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<v Speaker 2>has THEIRS on Wednesday, and Union Township has THEIRS on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>So we would encourage everyone to come out to speak

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<v Speaker 2>with the police officer and get to know them. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a great community event and.

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<v Speaker 1>An opportunity to thank them for the hard work they

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<v Speaker 1>they are involved with each and every day. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much, sir, it's been a pleasure having you on

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<v Speaker 1>this show. Great job, great job. E fifty six but

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<v Speaker 1>you got cares the Talk Station Big Picture with Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Addan about letting children vote. Donovan Neil talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>one Small Step campaign. You can get involved, Just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of efforts going to go a long way.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Betsy Sunnoman on curfews not working, and that's because

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<v Speaker 1>the police have been told not to enforce them. Judge

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<v Speaker 1>and Paulton. Of course, my conversation with Claremont County Prosecutor

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<v Speaker 1>Mark to Kalby, it's all there. Fifty five KRC dot

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<v Speaker 1>com on the podcast page. Tomorrow Sarah Haringer, widow of

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<v Speaker 1>the late stabbing victim from downtown Cincinnati. She has been

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<v Speaker 1>on a tear and a rant for reform in the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Cincinnati. She'll join the program in studio tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>for a full hour along with the other guests lined up.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Joe Stracker, you do a great job man. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>have a great day and stick around Glendex.

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<v Speaker 3>Up next.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump made clear that a peaceful resolution was possible

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<v Speaker 2>if I Ran agreed to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions.

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<v Speaker 1>Another updates at the top of the hour. Fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>KRZ the talkstation