Speaker 1: City by CARECD talk station, Happy Wednesday. The world's a
Speaker 1: better place. Thank you to Claremont County Prosecutor Mark to Coulby,
Speaker 1: along with assistant prosecutors Christine Detillo and Zachary Zipper, as
Speaker 1: well as the Union Township Police Department for all the
Speaker 1: work they did on prosecuting and convicting Charlie Theetterman. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the morning show. How Many County Prosecutor Mark to
Speaker 1: Culvey on behalf of my entire what Joe, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Claremont County Prosecutor Mark to Colby on behalf of my
Speaker 1: entire listening audience and me personally for taking care of
Speaker 1: this vile human being. Let my listeners know about what
Speaker 1: this guy did and what you went through and prosecuting him.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on my pleasure. It's great
Speaker 2: to be able to communicate with the community about this
Speaker 2: sort of, as you say, vile individual. This involved a
Speaker 2: young woman known to him, under age at the time
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen years old, and he obviously ninety three counts
Speaker 2: facing up to four hundred and fifty some years in prison.
Speaker 2: This came to light a few years ago. It was
Speaker 2: investigated extraordinarily well by the Union Township Police Department, Chief
Speaker 2: Reese and his detectives did a great job on this.
Speaker 2: Clairemont County Children's Protective Services got involved early on and
Speaker 2: was instrumental and more fully developing the initial allegations so
Speaker 2: the police could do something meaningful with him. This sick individual, theaterman,
Speaker 2: he videotaped every one of these.
Speaker 1: Crimes, ninety three felony charges. We've got rape, growth, sexual imposition,
Speaker 1: sexual battery, pandering and sexual ornament oriented material, involving a minor,
Speaker 1: and tampering with evidence. But he recorded all of it.
Speaker 2: He recorded every bit of it. And with the cooperation
Speaker 2: between my office, the assistants of our highly trained victim
Speaker 2: witness advocates and all of us who pete great heed
Speaker 2: and attention to Marcy's will to protect victims, and with
Speaker 2: the expertise of my assistant prosecutors, mainly Christina Dondolo, who
Speaker 2: has vast experience in protecting and prosecuting these types of
Speaker 2: cases and protecting these types of victims. The jury had
Speaker 2: to sit through days and days of vile, disgusting videos.
Speaker 2: This victim is crying, telling theedman that she hates him.
Speaker 2: But they did their job as in their civic duty.
Speaker 2: They sat through this trial, They deliberate, and they returned
Speaker 2: a verdict of guilty on all accounts. And we are
Speaker 2: going to be extremely pleased to go to court for
Speaker 2: his sentencing on August twenty sixth at one pm and
Speaker 2: demand that he received a substantial sentence. One we believe
Speaker 2: it will ensure that he never gets out of prison alive.
Speaker 1: Well, and you know, adding insult to injury bad enough
Speaker 1: that he molested this young woman. He represented himself a
Speaker 1: trial and after having to see all of the horror
Speaker 1: that he meted down upon this young woman, he got
Speaker 1: to question her about this. I cannot imagine what was
Speaker 1: going through her head.
Speaker 2: She is one of the most brave and courageous victims.
Speaker 2: If you probably have a good idea how child's sex
Speaker 2: abuse victims suffered this trauma for their entire life.
Speaker 1: Yes, came through.
Speaker 2: It was a horrible experience for her. But we met
Speaker 2: with her. My assistants met with her, the victim witness
Speaker 2: advocates met with her and did our best to handle
Speaker 2: her in a respectful and dignified way and still at
Speaker 2: the same time go through these materials that were discussing
Speaker 2: so she could be ready for trial, prepared for trial,
Speaker 2: and that we could secure a conviction against this this
Speaker 2: disgusting pig.
Speaker 1: Well Clarimon County Prosecutor to Caulby, you also illustrate one
Speaker 1: of the more disturbing elements of what law enforcement and
Speaker 1: the other agents he's involved with this have to go through.
Speaker 1: I recall them when my sister, before she retired from
Speaker 1: the CINCINNT Police Department, spent a number of years in
Speaker 1: the Special Crimes Department, which involved yess, in part, molesters
Speaker 1: of children, and the weight of having that on your mind,
Speaker 1: knowing that there's this pervert out there probably continuing to
Speaker 1: do this this commit these crimes while you're gathering enough
Speaker 1: evidence to prosecute them. They're still out there, don't I
Speaker 1: couldn't go home and sleep at night knowing that.
Speaker 2: Well, and you made me think that this opportunity you're
Speaker 2: giving me to speak on your show is it is
Speaker 2: an avenue for me to convey to the public if
Speaker 2: anyone knows of a victim of a crime of any type,
Speaker 2: but in particular this type of crime sexual abuseful child,
Speaker 2: encourage them to come forward. There are many many services
Speaker 2: out there, yes for metal health treatment, and certainly law
Speaker 2: enforcement knows how to investigate these matters. And yeah, there
Speaker 2: enough evidence is here to secure convictions and protect the public.
Speaker 1: And I know the Union Township Police Department did their
Speaker 1: best to look into it. But you're talking about there
Speaker 1: was one single victim with all this video, and she
Speaker 1: was the one that had to testify in court. Are
Speaker 1: there any other victims out there? I mean, you say,
Speaker 1: if you looked, Because usually these perverts are looking for
Speaker 1: opportunities wherever they are.
Speaker 2: I would say, you're correct, and that is generally what
Speaker 2: I believe to be true from my experience. We know
Speaker 2: of no other victim.
Speaker 1: Of the good. Did you have some connection? I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of the parents out there that maybe they're one of
Speaker 1: their children is going through this right now and they
Speaker 1: have no idea that it's happening. Is there information or
Speaker 1: advice you can give to parents what to look out for,
Speaker 1: or I mean anything at all by way of advice.
Speaker 1: I mean, this obviously went on for a long period
Speaker 1: of time, considering the number of charges that were made.
Speaker 2: Yes, did. I'm going to hand you off to Christina Dabelo.
Speaker 2: She handles these. She's the chief assistant in my office,
Speaker 2: handles these these horrible sex abuse cases. Again, she's vast experience,
Speaker 2: and she if you don't mind to what I think,
Speaker 2: she can probably give you a better answer.
Speaker 1: Than I'm I'll be more than happy to talk to
Speaker 1: her and thank her in person. Get her on the
Speaker 1: She's right.
Speaker 3: Here you, sir, Good morning. This is Christina Dottello. Your
Speaker 3: question was, are there signs and things that parents could
Speaker 3: look out for? Is that right? Yes, yes, I'd say
Speaker 3: primarily a lot of kids who are being abused tend
Speaker 3: to start dressing differently. They if it's a female who
Speaker 3: who is being abused, she often wants to associate with boys,
Speaker 3: wants to be a boy, wants to change her name
Speaker 3: to a boy or something else, wants to start dressing differently.
Speaker 3: They've often told me and my coworkers that they want
Speaker 3: to associate with anything but the gender that they were
Speaker 3: because that gender is what keeps getting abused. So that's
Speaker 3: one big thing. Another thing is ifanging and sleep habits,
Speaker 3: eating habits, if they start withdrawing from friends, family, just
Speaker 3: big change in behavior. But one of the big ones
Speaker 3: is there are a lot of kids changing their names
Speaker 3: right now and changing their genders and their identities that's
Speaker 3: a huge one.
Speaker 1: How about that. I've never heard that before. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Now did she have any connection with
Speaker 1: this guy? Because you know, I think quite often you'll
Speaker 1: hear it's the uncle who was involved. I mean, are
Speaker 1: there warning signs for parents to look out for for
Speaker 1: people who are you know, connected with the family in
Speaker 1: some way that brings them around regularly that is suggested
Speaker 1: that their behavior is inappropriate and maybe something's going on
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that they need to keep their eye
Speaker 1: out for.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's just common sense. Keep your
Speaker 3: eye open, your eyes open, if you see something that
Speaker 3: strikes you as a little odd, then look into it
Speaker 3: because it might be Trust your instincts, and I am
Speaker 3: going to hand you back to Mark.
Speaker 1: Well, thank thank you on behalf of the entire community,
Speaker 1: Assistant prosecutor. That it's just I really truly pre what
Speaker 1: you do and what you go through on behalf of
Speaker 1: protecting children, because I could not personally cope with having
Speaker 1: to look at this type of evidence. It just it
Speaker 1: brings up bio in my throat to even talk.
Speaker 3: About it, I know, And that's why I appreciate Mark
Speaker 3: so much, because he's given me the opportunity to handle
Speaker 3: cases like these, and that's my primary focus, which makes
Speaker 3: me better at it. So I have to thank my boss,
Speaker 3: Mark Tokolby for allowing me to do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a good man, and you obviously are not
Speaker 1: standing assistant prosecutor. Well, but you don't need to give
Speaker 1: back just I have an evidentiary question to ask you.
Speaker 1: I was a litigation attorney, but I practice it exclusively
Speaker 1: in civil litigation. So in spite of my knowledge of
Speaker 1: the criminal justice system, I'm just wondering, from an evidentiary perspective,
Speaker 1: was there any way to prosecute this case without having
Speaker 1: to provide all of this video, every single one of
Speaker 1: them to the jury for the trial. I mean, isn't
Speaker 1: like an illustration of it enough so they don't have
Speaker 1: to suffer through it?
Speaker 3: As far as providing the video to the jury, that's
Speaker 3: the best evidence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate to hear that.
Speaker 3: I know. Here is my boss. Thank you so much
Speaker 3: for you. Thank you very much, Brian, Thank you for much.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Kama County Prosecutor Mark to Calvey again, congratulations on the
Speaker 1: outstanding work. I know you're hard at work on other
Speaker 1: cases out there. Did how did this first come on
Speaker 1: your radar? If I could ask real quick because it
Speaker 1: took obviously it sounded like several years from start to finish.
Speaker 2: As most cases do. There's a report to somehow gets
Speaker 2: filtered to the police department of all involved in time
Speaker 2: Union Township, who we work very closely with all law
Speaker 2: enforcement agencies from the outset. They don't just bundle up
Speaker 2: a case and bring it to us. When they have
Speaker 2: something that pops up or comes to their attentions as
Speaker 2: an emerging investigation today, they get a hold of us
Speaker 2: right away. We're typically there on the ground floor with them,
Speaker 2: working together with them to put together the best case
Speaker 2: we can.
Speaker 1: Clearly you did in this case. Well, I hope he
Speaker 1: gets all four hundred and fifty years he's eligible for.
Speaker 1: He'll have a great time prison giving these a child molester.
Speaker 1: We all know that, Clairemont County Prosecutor to Calby, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for spending time with my listeners and
Speaker 1: me this morning on this case and for the great
Speaker 1: work you did leading up to the prosecution. I'll look
Speaker 1: forward to the sentencing day which is coming up August
Speaker 1: twenty sixth one if you want to be there.
Speaker 2: Thanks Bi Brian, let me close out with this, Nashield.
Speaker 2: Next week is National Police Night Out. Oh yeah, we're
Speaker 2: there Tuesday. The Sheriff's office and Goshen PD and Milford
Speaker 2: p D and Miami Township PD have theirs. Peerce Township
Speaker 2: has THEIRS on Wednesday, and Union Township has THEIRS on Thursday.
Speaker 2: So we would encourage everyone to come out to speak
Speaker 2: with the police officer and get to know them. It's
Speaker 2: a it's a great community event and.
Speaker 1: An opportunity to thank them for the hard work they
Speaker 1: they are involved with each and every day. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much, sir, it's been a pleasure having you on
Speaker 1: this show. Great job, great job. E fifty six but
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