Speaker 1: I made a decision.
Speaker 2: Sunny Sun on ahead a Visions night.
Speaker 1: What's happening? Everybody?
Speaker 2: Welcome to for crying out loud, Happy Friday, Happy Friday.
Speaker 1: Line is parenting away like this. It's Friday, and Sunny's
still at the airport actually seeing Gabby. She's just still. Yeah.
I ran into them.
Speaker 2: They were they were trying to help them sneak them
onto the plane on another flight. It's going to be
a stowaway, yeah, yeah, but they got caught and arrested,
so they're in They're in a burbank security jail at
the airport. But anyway, Yeah, it's still Monday, and Sunny
is now I don't know if I said it on
the other show, but he's got a late flight.
Speaker 1: Is he on the plane by now?
Speaker 2: He's on the plane and he's going to get to
San Francisco and then the next flight's not until nine
twenty now.
Speaker 1: So he's gonna get in at like four.
Speaker 2: I don't know, k So, yeah, then he has to
do or something. Then he has to wear it wait
till nine to twenty, and then he's not gonna get
home until like eleven thirty twelve, where he was supposed
to get home at like six thirty.
Speaker 1: Right, and then would he from the airport? Would he
just take an uber? Yeah, he takes an uber.
Speaker 2: So anyway, after this show, I'm gonna see if there's
any other He just he didn't check any bags, So
I'm gonna see if there's Southwest or Alaska. See if
they have any flights earlier. Oh huh, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Then will you have to eat the money or can
you just call them and cancel? Since I will, they will.
Speaker 2: They've they've done this many times because every time he
comes home, practically, there's always some issues with their flight
and I always get credit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they it was their fault they left late. Okay. Yeah,
so for the next time, even if you fly a
different airline, they'll still credit you. They have.
Speaker 2: I mean, he basically missed his second flight. You know,
well they did book them on a later flight. But
I've done it before where I said that's not going
to work. I had to get him home earlier, and
then they credit if they're delayed, they will credit Okay, Yeah,
as far as I've done so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well you've got the time, You've got a
little bit of time while he's on the plane, and
you can't really see that much about him do much. Yeah,
you got to make sure he gets in on whatever,
right right? Yeah, you so much time he needs, yes, between,
So like, let's make the most of them.
Speaker 2: We'll make the most of it by talking about murder.
Hell yeah, we could talk about that show first.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about that show first? Yeah? Okay, okay,
So you told me to watch Death Death, Death in
Apartment six oh three.
Speaker 2: Yet Ellen, it's on Hulu. It's the Ellen Greenberg story. Now,
I've heard about this story on some podcasts not that
long ago, where somebody was talking about this.
Speaker 1: I think it was an Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2: Somebody was talking about this mysterious death that happened on
a six floor apartment in Philadelphia during like a nor'easter
snowstorm and the woman was found dead in the kitchen
with So we're going to talk about this, so we're
gonna have spoilers, right, So.
Speaker 1: I guess except that it's it's unsolved, it's not so right,
I don't know how much we can spoil it be
what we think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was, yeah, death found she was found
by her husband that could not get into the apartment
because the apartment was latched from the inside, so he said,
so he said, with the chain like they have in
the hotel rooms.
Speaker 1: No way to know if that's true, though, because then
he broke down the door to get in.
Speaker 2: Right, But see, he claims, And there was no witness,
even though I think in the very first police report
there was a witness. Somebody said that the them. The
concierge downstairs came upstairs with him and witnessed it, and
the concierge said, oh, no, I did not because I'm
not allowed to leave my post so I couldn't go upstairs.
Speaker 1: And then they had security footage showing that the security
guard was correct right and the husband was making up
both story. Yes, so Zoey says that he had to
kick the door. So from the from the very beginning,
I started watching this and then I texted Lynnette and
I was like, well, the husband did it, and she
was like, well, yeah, I had you watched it, Like well,
I don't really need to, I mean it seems real obvious. Yeah,
And I still maintain like, yeah, yeah that well, so
what did they say if you see if you see, oh,
don't look for a zebra. Oh isn't that what it is, Yeah,
I don't know, or if you's whatever it is, why
are you like Ocham's razor.
Speaker 2: Yes, the most obvious is the answer. So so so this.
Speaker 1: Guy was a full on liar. It's and I mean
so basically. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he goes into the apartment, calls nine one one,
and you hear the nine one one call, and there
is so.
Speaker 1: Talk about this nine one Yeah.
Speaker 2: I said to Stephanie, I go, there is so much
meat on that bone or that nine one one called
to pick apart.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I wish we could play it.
They said. They say, too, you gotta go hear this
because they say they're like, oh, you know, he was
real upset. No, I heard now he was not.
Speaker 2: He was like, well, first of all, he's texting her.
You see all the texts like hey, open the door.
What the fuck? Like pretty aggressive, not like are you okay?
You know, he thought she was blow drying her hair,
or she was or she was in the shower or something.
But no, so he kept texting like open the door,
open the door. You this, you better open the door.
This better be good? Like why are you not answering
the door?
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, I feel like the texts were
absolutely real. Yeah, it's whatened, which is what happened afterwards, right,
And I think that she did have him locked out
of the apartment.
Speaker 2: Yes that yeah, that could be true. So he hit
he broke it first, he broke down the door and
then killed her. And then was like, oh my gosh,
I was just worried. She had the door was locked
from the inside. She wasn't responding yes.
Speaker 1: So on the nine one one call, he's like, uh,
setting up his alibi.
Speaker 2: So I was down in the lobby gym. By the way,
it doesn't look like he really works out. Oh is
that a shape? Anyway, I was working out in the
middle of a nor'easter and uh, I'm going I come
back upstairs and I'm locked out. So I had to
bust the door down. And now my wife looks like
she killed herself.
Speaker 1: She's laying on like with.
Speaker 2: Her her body is like half up, half slumped in
the kitchen, blood all around all around her, her bloody
scenes tuddy like twenty stab back to her back to
her head.
Speaker 1: Neck right, and then she stabbed up. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he's like, looks like she killed herself, and she's like,
is she breathing, you need to do CPR. And he's like, oh, okay,
I guess, Like all right, she's got a zipper jacket
on and she's like, well, unzip the jacket.
Speaker 1: And then he goes, okay, oh god, wait, there's a knife.
Speaker 2: Sticking out of her neck, out of her chest. No,
there's a knife sticking out of her heart. He said,
oh yeah, which to me, when you're stabbing her, you
want to get the heart right like that, you know,
like yeah, why would he say there's a knife sticking
out of her heart?
Speaker 1: That means like one of us, Like it's so obvious
that he murdered her. Okay. So the weird thing about
the documentary is that we got to figure out who's
in cahoots why people are trying to cover it up.
Because the police come and he's like, guys, let me
just tell you what happened. I mean, this is horrible, right,
Like she that must have taken a lot for her
to just kill herself, like you know, hella stab wounds
on her and the police are like, man, yeah, that's
that's sad, okay, right, suicide it is. And then they
just have the crime scene clean professionally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they give the lady that owns the apartment buildings
is the number, here's the number of the crime scene.
Get it cleaned up so that you can show the
apartment again and rent it out. Yeah, so yeah, she
has she has a crime scene team coming like this,
all evidence gone gone, no evidence. And then like the
next day, the husband or no, he's not even the husband.
The fiance comes with his uncle who's a high powered
lawyer in Philadelphia who's very well connected.
Speaker 1: He's like a Mark Geragos.
Speaker 2: He is a Mark Garrigos, and he's very well connected
with I think politicians, and uh, the police and comes
and what are they take out of the apartment Her
purse and they take her lap, her phone and her laptops,
all her electronics. Dude, you're not her next of kid,
you're just her fiance. Why would they let her? Why
was he allowed to even do that? So then who knows,
like what's been wiped?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: I listened to this guy that did a pot that
is doing a podcast about it. He was a guest
on somebody else's podcast. His name, I'll post it. His
name is some I don't know. His name is something
something fish. His last name is fish.
Speaker 1: I think. His first name is Josh.
Speaker 2: He's he's been doing a podcast about this crime. He's
friends with the parents of Ellen Greenberg, and they gave
him her laptops and her phone to do a data dump.
And he said, now, he said that he did not
see any mean text messages. That they did not They
talk to each other very kindly. They were not fighting
or whatever. Now, okay, now you go to the documentary.
She's acting really weird in the days leading up to
her alleged suicide.
Speaker 1: But she's acting, in my opinion, like somebody who's the
victim of domestic violence. Thank you. They were saying. It
just seemed like her light had kind of dimmed. She
just wasn't as talkative. She was really keeping to herself.
She had a lot of anxiety, a lot of tons
of anxiety. She also wanted to go move back home
with her parents. Now, this guy, Josh said, she also
called another friend and said, hey, how about I come
stay with you for a little bit. And she's like, oh,
you want to come you mean live at my place?
And she was like, oh, never mind, never mind.
Speaker 2: She said that, and she got on medication for anti anxiety.
She never mentioned to the therapist anything bad about him.
Speaker 1: But because she was probably scared shitless of him. Right,
he's a monster.
Speaker 2: So still in the documentary, they said that she had
a lot of like like she had. They said in
the documentary she had in certain spots of her body,
a couple spots of bruises in different stages of healing
or whatever, right, like one on her forehead or whatever.
This guy that does this did this podcast, said he
counted he saw the autopsy fifty six bruises all over
her body. Yeah, and when they did they they opened
up her neck.
Speaker 1: The bone in her neck.
Speaker 2: Looks like it was like basically she was strangled, which
now shows why she didn't have any defensive wounds. It
looks to him what he thinks is that she they
got enough fight and they could have happened. It could
have happened in the bathroom because if you notice, she's
clutching the towel of a bathroom towel, not a kitchen towel.
So she's in the kitchen looking like she's making herself
a fruit salad.
Speaker 1: But if you look at.
Speaker 2: Her body, she's clutching a white bath towel, not a
kitchen towel, and it looked like he could have strangled
her in the bathroom and then pulled her into the
kitchen and then just started stabbing at her somewhere like superficial,
like not too deep stabbed, but she was stabbed over
twenty times and again parts of her body, like how
are you gonna First of all, women don't really typically
kill themselves by stabbing, and then not yeah, typically noble, right,
and then not even like on your back, like there's
all these stab wounds to the back mid back of
her like the net midnck, lower neck, like everybody's at
home now trying to like see if they could stab
the back of your neck, Like it's there's no way.
So so he stabbed her a bunch of times. It
made it because I think he killed her. And then
he was like, how am I going to make this look?
Like there's no he can't say that she took medication
because they'll do a tox toxicology test and they're not
it's not gonna show up. So how else is he
gonna say she killed herself? Right?
Speaker 1: Unless he like the fact that he didn't even try
that that he was like, oh shit, I'm fucked right,
Like I just stabbed her to death. Now I'm gonna
have to be like it was suicide. Yeah, right, he was.
The acting was so bad in the nine one one call, Yes, like,
oh my god, I think my wife has killed herself.
Like I was like, what that's this? And they're like, yeah,
he sounded really upset. Yeah, he did not sound upset
at all. Now was talking almost in a normal tone
of voice, I know, like he was doing a cold reading. Yeah,
some thing.
Speaker 2: He kind of sounded a little annoyed too, like I
got an unzip her jacket. Oh I guess there's a
and you how do you not see the knife sticking
out of her chest?
Speaker 1: Like come on, yeah, it's ridiculous. So then they they
ruled it a suicide, and then a lot of people
were like this is crazy. How can you have ruled
this as suicide? He was the only one who could
have done it. He was He lied and said that
oh no, the security brought escorted me up to the
thing and you know, saw me have to break the
door or whatever was there. No, that didn't happen. The
security guard was like, why do you got to try
to lie on? Right?
Speaker 2: I know, I know because there was the security video
in the in the in the lobby, but no video
in the hallways at that time, and you know, so yeah,
so they just took his word for it.
Speaker 1: And and then but first they they said it was
a suicide.
Speaker 2: Then two days later she's getting her buried in her
she's at her funeral, and they announced it was this homicide, right.
Speaker 1: I think because the family was like, what the hell? Right,
So then they're like, oh, yeah, okay, no, it was
a it was a homicide, right. But then I think
the guy's uh uncle got cover up. Ye, it was
a cover up. And then they're like, oh wait, wait wait,
never mind, No, it was definitely a suicide, right, And
then it stayed.
Speaker 2: That way for years, years, and the poor parents unbelievable.
I mean, this is their only child, her, They're never
going to have grandchildren. They are still fighting to this day.
This guy is just out and about married, remarried with kids,
living his life. However, you know that his wife is
fucked not I feel bad for her because she has
nothing to do with this or whatever, but you know
she's going to like drop off the kids and everybody's
talking about the new Hulu doc about her husband, Like
could you imagine how embarrassing that must be, Like, oh
my god, that's got to suck. But you know, I
don't understand how there's no arrest. I hope that maybe
this Hulu documentary brings enough flight to the case that they.
Speaker 1: Here's what I don't understand, speaking of like the new wife,
how do you meet a guy? Okay, I don't know
where you are, a bar tender. Wherever you meet a
guy go on a date. You're like, oh my god,
he's super cute and charming. You know, doesn't really work out,
but still, you know, yeah, you know, it makes me
laugh whatever. And then you're you're like, oh, but he
was married before. Oh my gosh, it was horrible. His
wife tragically died. She killed herself by stabbing herself like
fifty times, right, aren't your friends like wait? Wait what what? Wait?
What happened to her? So this guy, Yeah, she was
really messed up in the head. She just like stabbed herself.
I mean she was really mentally like unstable, right, but
also too, how does know how does that work? Like
he tells you, yeah, so this is what happened. I
don't know. You're going to google You're gonna google me
and you'll find out, So let me just tell you
what happened. And you're like, oh man, you poor thing cool?
You know that is I mean we talk about people
missing red flags, right, that is just red flag is
like when your boyfriend's like late all the time, Like
what how do you overcome his ex wife stabbed herself
to death that many times? Right? I know?
Speaker 2: And then yeah, you're right like what her friends might say,
like come on now, Sheila, you gotta like go look like,
did you do the deep dive?
Speaker 1: I did? I listened to a podcast. Have you not
listened to any podcast about it? Because it's been suspicious case.
It's not like just this Hulu documentary came out.
Speaker 2: It's like I said, I heard about it like a
couple like a year ago that people were somebody was
writing a book about it. You know, because when you
hear you don't see the documentary and you hear about
it on paper, it does sound suspicious. She's on the
sixth floor. The guy had to break the door down,
you know, like but.
Speaker 1: So suspicious only to hit for him, right, because there's
no other person that was around, right, the doors locked
from the inside, he says, I broke it down yeah,
there's no proof that, like, there's nothing right, but he
was in. There have videotape, So yeah, and you don't.
The only explanation that he's trying to put forth, which
he started from this moment that he found her, he
was like, he why if you're the guy, here's here's
the whole problem, here's why he's one hundred percent guilty. Yeah,
you're the guy. You go in. Why wouldn't you say, oh,
my god, somebody must have broken into the apartment and
like murdered my girlfriend. Why would you go like, oh,
she killed herself of course, right, Why would you say
that now unless you're like, oh, there's videotape and they're
going to see they're going to be able to tell
that nobody broke in the apartment. That's the only explanation
that I can give them.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and exactly. And if the door was locked
on the inside, because.
Speaker 1: That's he broke the door. He did. He broke mad
because she wasn't wouldn't let him in because he was
really angry at her. And remember in the beginning, there
was that neighbor that said he did hear our doing
that day? Yeah, outside, Yeah, he's probably yelling at her
through the door. He like stormed out. Then he comes
back and he's like he's gotten madder and matter and matter.
As he's out, he comes in and then he's like,
you fucking bitch, like open the door. Because it was
crazy the way he was talking to her over the text. Yeah,
you're gonna you are this best better bid whatever? You
better open this right now? We're are You're doing right right?
I know? Why else would she have him locked out? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was afraid of him. I kids can't believe.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, n So a couple of things. Well, I also
wanted to talk about Wayward. We talked about a little
bit about last week, but I hadn't seen it yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I didn't finish it until I finished it.
Oh you did, and you finished it, so I won't
we won't.
Speaker 1: Do spoilers on this one, because this is like a
serious this is like eight episodes or something, right, But
I will tell you that when it ended, I was like, wait, what,
thank you? I was gonna say, can we talk about
the ending? Because I was totally confused. I feel like
we shouldn't talk about it specifically. But you ever watch
something you spend all this time, you're totally invested, and
then the ending happens and you're like, wait what? And
I had to google what happened at the end. Yes,
and then it was explained to me what happened. We
explain to me. I wonder if people already watch it
and feeling the same way. So if you don't want
to be spoiled, maybe just do though, and I don't
feel like, really, hinch is the way we do? Like
I watched it all in like one session. Now you
did sort of like Dana Mora, Escape a Dana you
love Dana Moura. Wasn't it great? I? And I know
I said this last week too when we were when
you guys were like, oh my god, you got to
watch Escape at Dana Mora and I was like, I
think it's Australian. And then I post I postponed doing it.
Uh huh. And then I was like, you know what,
even though it's Australian hon Air, it's not in Austria. Try.
And then I was like, wait, why did I think
this was Australian. It's regular now. I know. Reminded me
of like Mayor of Easttown. Okay, yeah, it had that
like gritty, pretty vibe. But it was so freaking good,
so good.
Speaker 2: I love it. I loved it so much. I've watched
it twice. I told you last week. I think it's
the acting was phenomenal. It's a true story. Yeah, and
it's just it it's just the way it's filmed, the
way you know, just the husband of Patricia Arquette now
he is like it's just so good.
Speaker 1: And then you look up it's like a documentary. Yes, yeah,
doesn't it. Yeah. The acting is so so louistic.
Speaker 2: Right, And then I look up the real people and
it's like, wow that the husband looked like the actor.
I know, you know, they kind of looked alike, you know.
And the story, I just it's such a good show
or docues.
Speaker 1: Arcat's character is such an interesting character, really, right, very flawed, yes,
like probably, I mean she's based on a real person. Obviously,
real people out there like that. Yeah, just constantly cheating
on her husband. She's so mean, I know, mean to
her husband.
Speaker 2: They're at the Chinese restaurant, like, yeah, I mean, she
was going to kill him, right, at one point, she
was gonna they were at the Chinese restaurant and she
was hadn't met she had something crushed up.
Speaker 1: She was going to kill her husband. Was going to
put him to sleep or put him to sleep so
that she he would be asleep so that she could
take off, Yeah, with these guys to Mexico. Yeah, she
really thought she was going to Mexico with these guys,
with those guys, Oh my god. And then it was
so good because what's his name? Benicio? Yeah, El Toro
is like I love that they wait until a little
bit in and I won't I won't spoil it, even
though it's been out for a really long time. But
how they give you the backstory of the guys. But
way later, right you're watching it and you don't you're
kind of feeling bad for them, but then you see
you see their crime Tori, and you're like, oh my.
Speaker 2: God, this guy is really bad news. Yeah, he is bad.
Yeah yeah, and then they're just on the run. It's
like they like almost made it. But I know they
almost made I was rooting for them too, and it's
like his real.
Speaker 1: Name is Mike Sweat.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah. Oh I cry I get away.
Speaker 1: I literally cry. I did too.
Speaker 2: And he was like running at the end and like
I shot him, like, uh, like he's still in jail,
still in jail, we're getting out.
Speaker 1: He's in for life. I was like, he didn't do it.
How come they didn't, like if they knew this in
the documentary, how come nobody's like tried to get him
a new trial.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. Well he but also
look at what he did to get out of that jail.
It took him so long and it was so planned out.
I mean, what a bummer, What a bummer? I know,
I know, you get that far and he gets so
right and like, come on, he's almost at the Canadian border,
I know, like almost there.
Speaker 1: I loved when he left a Benicio yes behind yeah,
because you know when they're like why'd you leave me room?
And he goes that fuck is like slowing me down.
Speaker 2: He's slowing him down. He's getting drunk and stuff on
the run. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Imagine though, like that's your partner. Yeah yeah, and you
know you kind of need a partner in this kind
of thing. Me and you, Stephanie. And then the yeah,
the person's like not listening to you. He's like, dude,
do not get drunk. We're staying at somebody's farmhouse and
we do not get drunk. And he's like, fuck you,
I'm getting drunk.
Speaker 2: It'd be like me and you on the run, like like,
let it stop drinking.
Speaker 1: Is you're the sober one, you're gonna slow us down, Like.
Speaker 2: Come on, I got whiskey in here, Like, come on,
we're on the run, let's celebrate we got out.
Speaker 1: Then you'd be like, Stephanie, you can drive faster than
fifty miles on the freeway. We're making a getaway. I'm like, next,
we're kind of close to the sidewall. Though I don't
like that.
Speaker 2: I like go like trying to press your foot to
the neck to the gas.
Speaker 1: You're like, I can't drive because I've been shot. I
gotta drive faster, broke if I can't know my anxiety
stop and it's late at night, I can't see the
road too good? Where am I in a park?
Speaker 2: When we get to the border, do they have parking there?
Speaker 1: We should have planned out for parking. Yes, know where
the parking?
Speaker 2: Like what don't we just drive to the border and
then just what hop over the fence and leave the car?
Speaker 1: Like how does that work? Oh my god, that would
be a disaster. I don't know how they did it. Also,
even when they were early in the escape, Oh my god,
didn't you get claustrophobic? Do you remember the scene where
he climbs into that pipe? Ellieah does get a little klaustrophobic.
He's like, has to go through a pipe, Like, oh hell,
I'd be like, I'm gonna make the best of prison.
Speaker 2: Go back, abort, abort, abort. Yeah, it did get clusterphobic.
There was a lot of The second time I watched,
I realized there was so many scenes of him like
sawing and like working and down. It was a little much.
I was like, yeah, okay, but but just the rest
of the story is just so good. Guys should all
watch Escape to Dan Moore at Dana Mora. Yeah, it's
called and it's on Netflix.
Speaker 1: And then okay, okay, So then the Wayward so watch that.
Here was my takeaway. Yeah, May Martin had a great
actor actor actress. Yea, they are not. Here's the interesting thing.
And so now that we talked about this last week
and I did look into it, May Martin is non binary, okay,
but their character is trans man, so it's a little
bit confusing. They wanted to have a trans man representation,
but they themselves are not. They don't identify okay as male, okay,
but they have had top surgery, so they're non bin
you know, right, Okay, masculine non binary, got it? Okay?
Acting not amazing, right. There's this one scene kind of
early on where the character I forgot their name. Let's
call them mic. Yeah, okay, Mike's like, uh, I forgot
what their name is. Do you remember.
Speaker 2: His name in the show? Was it was Matt or something?
I think it was Matty.
Speaker 1: So Matt is in the house with the fiance and
the dog was outside. And then now we both have dogs.
If your dog was like you couldn't find your dog
and there outside, would you be? This is this was
my impression of Matt, Yes, looking for the dog dog Toast, Yes, toast, Yeah, Toast?
Where are you? Toast? Right. I was like, really what toast? Yes, like, yeah,
come on, tell like I would freak out. Yeah, for
at least your voice would go a little bit loud
or you're looking for I was like, there was a
lot of kind of stilted.
Speaker 2: There was like it did seem like Okay, this must
have been their first big role in a Netflix show, right,
you know, so you know it's their show that they
wrote it.
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yes, I saw that. Yeah, and you
know take you're going with You're like toast right, toast?
Wouldn't you be like, let's do it one more time? Yeah?
And just like but I think my friend told me
that she thinks that May directed themselves.
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to ask. Did May direct it?
Speaker 1: I don't know if they directed the whole thing, but
I heard that they directed themselves in that scene. Okay, okay,
and that explains it. So you're like, I think that
was pretty good.
Speaker 2: I think, right, Yeah, where did they get the idea
for that story? That's a crazy story. It is a
crazy wrote they wrote it right, so right, but was
it based on.
Speaker 1: A book derivative of like a lot of different I mean,
there's been a lot of stuff about those kinds of yeah,
that's true, places where they go to like recanclitate kids.
I just didn't get the ending at all. Well, the
ending was was supposed to leave room for a second season. Okay,
oh okay, so they left it open ended, got it? Okay,
so May goes back. Yes, but I guess it was
supposed to be like our imagination that they leave and
they show them and they don't. They didn't leave.
Speaker 2: So Matt goes back to his wife, Yeah, got it?
And baby spoiler Yeah all right, but.
Speaker 1: Seriously, I watched the whole thing and then I'm like,
I don't understand what happened. Yeah, I mean we're not
even doing it, just a deeper meaning of it. And
it's like I don't like that because I feel like
I'm smart enough, Like if if I really don't get
it right, I'm not saying that I'm the smartest, don't
I know, not, Like if I don't get it, nobody
will get it. I'm sure tons of people were like, oh,
I totally get it right when you have to read
the deeper meaning like the symbolism and right, like oh right, yeah,
it was just like a fun thing that I was
also playing threes on my phone, right, yeah, yeah, yeah subtitles. Yes.
Speaker 2: Did you ever see like Behind Her Eyes? It's on Netflix.
I got duped into that show once, not that long ago,
and I it seemed like it was I don't know,
probably eight episodes and it was I think based on
a book. I think it was one of those good,
like you know, Netflix juicy kind of shows, and I'm
like watching it, and then the second to last episode
it turned into something supernatural, and I was like, wait
a minute, what the fuck, Like what this woman is
like supposedly like has these crazy, you know dreams where
they're what do you call the dreams where you're awake
but your dream paralysis? And then but then she's like
you want to know, like how does she know that
they had that her husband had that conversation with her
husbands cheating on her? Anyway, it's going, it's going, it's going,
like second to last episode, all of a sudden, the
lights come like circulating above her body, out of mind,
and it's it's called something that is really like some
court of like orbital, I don't know whatever, some stupid
but it was like supernatural, and I was like, that's
how you're explaining the ending like she was reading everybody's mind, like, no,
that's not true, that doesn't happen. I was like, what
the fuck I wasted all this time on this stupid show.
Speaker 1: I hate that so much. I hated it. How many
books are like that these days too, the thrillers. Yeah,
and then it's like I want something that's based, grounded
in real reality, right, so with a I don't mind
a twist, but make it it, make it real believable, like,
but no, you get to the twist and it's like again,
like you said something supernatural and you're like, well, come
on time, Yes, I hate that, like say it up front,
or be supernatural to the whole thing. Like Stephen King, Yeah,
fine is the best, Yes, like the king of that.
Yeah of course, right, he's the king of that.
Speaker 2: But even like in the description under Netflix, it's like
suspenseful drama, thriller, right, didn't put in supernatural too? Yeah,
so that like I know what's going to happen or
something like give me a And I went and read
it and everybody said the same thing. They were like
what the fuck? Like I was pissed, Like I was.
Speaker 1: Really believing the story for a while and then all
of a sudden, like this shit happened, Like, okay, come on,
I love Reddit for that. I know I love And
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Speaker 1: Okay, so I want to talk about something, well, I
want to admit something about how crazy my brain is. Okay,
I already know I'm crazy, everybody, so like, relax, I'm
a I'm a brand of crazy. That's like, I know,
if you're just listening to me talk, you're going to
be like, oh my god, she's so anxious, she's compulsive. No, yeah,
and I'll tell you about it. Yeah, I'm an addict
and so I was thinking, I just everybody is on
like the ozempic right, Yeah, buddy and their brother and
their mother. It's so true. It's so funny.
Speaker 2: Like somebody was saying to me the other day, like
basically like, if you have enough money, there's no reason
for you to be overweight.
Speaker 1: And this is the weird the thing that we were
kind of going in a direction to body positivity and
different shapes and sizes being okay, and now that there
is ozimbic and other weight loss drugs like this, it's
a weird thing. It's like taking over my brain where
it's like I feel like I have no excuse to
be like, okay, let me go back. I've always been
obviously dealing with like not always, but when I was younger,
I definitely was boliemic. I was obsessed with my weight.
I'm a compulsive person, and many years ago when I
first when I got over bolimia in my early twenties,
I went to a twelve step program. I got really
locked in. I was like, I'm not going to do
that behavior anymore. And then I got really perfect my eating,
super clean eating, and then I started losing weight, and
then I got kind of obsessed in that way, like
very perfectionist, watching every calorie, thinking about everything that I
put in my body, and not in a fun, fucking
ye kind of way. No sweets, no white flower like
all this. And then somehow I did kind of stop
doing that. But you know how I probably did it.
I probably started like drinking more. Like I think my
brain shifts from like, yeah things one saying to another.
So the eating thing and the weight has gotten like
a lot better over the years. And I've been like
I've always fluctuated a bit. I've never been like obese.
I've never been well. I have been super skinny. And
the time that I was super skinny was because I
went on zoloft for depression after I had LB and
I think I got super skinny. Oh, I got very skinny.
For my wedding. I got too skinny, and people were
like concerned about me. Yeah, because I got compulsive. Then
I got married, Then I got pregnant. I gained a
bunch of weight when I was pregnant. Then later after
I had LBY, I went on a high dose of
zoloft because they were experimenting with the dose, and I
stopped eating. And I didn't think I did. I just
wasn't hungry. Yeah, one of the side effects of zola
and be losing weight. I can also be gaining weight,
but for reason I just didn't. I was forgetting to eat.
I just wasn't hungry. I had no appetite. So I
got super skinny, and I was worried about myself. So
I went to the doctor, and the doctor did tests
and everything came out normal. And then I read this
one of the side of of zoloft could be weight loss.
So I dropped my dose in half and I fully
went back to like eating normally. That's fine. Yeah, Okay. Interestingly, though,
like I've, like I said, I've always kind of fluctuated
when COVID happened and I was not working out, and
I've always been back and forth on the like sometimes
I won't eat sugar for years at a time, yeah,
and then my weight stays real stable. But over COVID,
I gained a lot of weight and I felt uncomfortable,
you know. Then I lost some But then the sugar
thing has been a thing, And now so many people
I know are on ozempic and they're like, oh, yeah,
like it's really easy to not eat sugar when you're
on ozempic or on some glue tags, right, all these things. Yea,
then I just started getting really obsessed with the idea
of like, well maybe I should do it. Okay, so
I went to dinner, yeah, the other night with it.
Speaker 2: Let me just say, you don't you do not you
look healthy to me. You do not look like you
need to lose any weight.
Speaker 1: But well, this is the thing that's so crazy, right,
is like if like I weighed myself at the gym
today and I weigh one hundred and thirty nine pounds,
which if you're listening to this, you're going to be like,
you're ridiculous. Yeah, that's crazy. Right now, My like a
comfortable weight for me is like one twenty five yeah thin, yeah,
you know. So like okay, so I need to lose
like ten pounds, right, So why is my brain like
it's a it's a compulsive thing. This is why I
can't drink, you know. And the thing is it's like
the sweets. This is what gets me like heavier. It's
just like when I eat sweets, I can't stop, and
I always think, you know what, this will be different,
like I could moderate now. It's the same way I
think about alcohol, right, Yeah, Okay, today I'm not going
to have any alcohol, like and then okay, you know what,
I'll just have one glass of wine. Yeah, and then
before you know it, I'm drunk, right, And that's how
I am with sugar, like, and but for some reason,
my brain like today I'm like three days no sugar,
and I'm like and you know what, And I've been
going to the gym. So now I'm like really hungry
because I had some cereal for breakfast, I had like
a lean cuisine for lunch. I worked out though this morning,
and now I'm like I'm super starving. And then my
brain goes, well, if I was on like weight loss medication,
like I wouldn't even think I'm hungry because everybody's on
it because that's what everybody is full of. You can
get some of you don't even have to have a prescription.
And I'm like, it's like a freaking monster brain going.
You could just you could be skinny the way you
could be really skinny, Like if you did this in
like a month, you could lose ten pounds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now our phones are listening to us, so
now you're going to get a ton.
Speaker 1: Oh it all rane my face right now, you would laugh.
It's just all because the other day. So this is
the thing. So I have a friend who was legitimately
needed to lose weight and she found literally like I
like a woman who's a nurse. I guess who got
her this medication. It's like, this woman could have just
gone to the doctor for you, and we're all like
nice Jewish value women. Yeah, for some reason, it's this
friend of mine who always has a hookup to everything.
So she was like, I got a woman who's been
giving me this medication and she gives you the needles
and she shows and she's like, it's amazing, you don't
think about food. So this is what my brain does.
My brain goes, I know I don't need to lose
I know I'm not obese obviously, and I know I
don't really need to lose a lot of weight. But
wouldn't it be great to like not crave sweets? You
get rid of the food noise? Right? But the truth
of these medications, because you know, I did a bunch
of research and it's like, well it will come back
though when you stop, you still stop. So even if
I was to let's say I was to go I'd
have to do it like forever, right, yeah, really eliminate
the well I have. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I have some friends that legitimately needed it, especially
with back problems and stuff, and you know, they went
on it.
Speaker 1: And then I have one friend that went on it
and did.
Speaker 2: Lose like ten pounds, and then she was like, Okay,
I think I'm okay because she was craving like a lot,
like she was always wanting to eat a certain time
a day and she was craving a lot, you know food.
Speaker 1: She only needed to lose ten pounds.
Speaker 2: But she only needed really to lose ten pounds and
she could have maybe lost more, but she was like
okay after that, So then she felt like, Okay, now
I feel maybe I'm okay. So she stopped taking it.
She still is like, I don't have an app really
an ap petite still and she's been off of it for
a while and she really isn't a weak No, she's
been off of it for like a couple months, and
she's she's now, I feel.
Speaker 1: Like you're talking me into it. I'm not. I'm just
telling you what I know.
Speaker 2: I'm just yeah, I mean, I can see why you
would want to like do it for the craving of
the isn't it for like alcohol, craving toos they say,
or something.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to like listen, this is the thing is
it's supposed to be like pretty great, Like it's supposed
to stop the food noise. It's supposed to be good
for people that need to quit other things. Make even
maybe smoking, I could maybe I'm maybe I'm adding that,
but I feel I think it is smoking or alcohol something.
I think they do give it to people. Yeah, so
I'm like, well, what's the harm now? I need to
look into it, I know, right, yeah, but then the
harm I guess, I don't know. The harm is a
few stuff to stand to it or talk me out
of it, right because I could. Okay, oh here's the
thing I was gonna say, So this drug, so I
went down a freaking rabbit hole. Yeah, okay, good, you
do it. On the research that the friend recommended to
me starts it's not oh, zembic, it's not. There's three kinds.
There's the manjaro is from the medication that starts with
a T like taraza something. Okay. Then there's then there's
the uh, the other kind njaros, which okay, Sema glue, tides,
raza whatever. Let's just call it Trapeze. And then there's
this one that the friend of mine can get. It's
a new one that's on the market. Okay, that's supposed
to work even better. Okay, I'm going to tell you
the name of it because I have it in front
of me. Hold on. It is called Redda True Dye
Redda Redda True Tide. Okay. So r E t A
t r U t I d Okay, Okay, it's new
and it works supposedly even faster. Right now, that's the
one that I could get really easily for kind of cheap,
and the woman gives you the needles and shows you
how to do it or whatever. But I looked into
this one. Here's my biggest fear of these medications. I'm like,
I don't want to feel nervous. I remember taking trying
to take Dexa trim in high school and just wanting
to like jump off a building.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't like feeling edgy, nervous, anxious. Do they make
you feel that way? Well, this one. One of the
reported side effects is it can make you feel anxious
and it can give you like heart pop up stuff
that shit so right. So I was like, okay, but
then I was comparing side effects for different ones, and
the one that does that the least is the Manjaro. Okay,
it's one of the more expensive ones though. Okay. So
I'm like, okay, do I want to bet Are you.
Speaker 2: Supposed to go see a doctor though, to make sure
that you're okay to take these things like get a
test and stuff or no?
Speaker 1: The thing is doctor knock around going to be like, yeah,
I could see why you would want weight loss medication. Oh,
I bet you, doctor knock around, I'll give it to you.
I bet you. I need to make an appointment. Anybody
out there is like, why not just get into therapy,
but it doesn't do a therapy talk. Therapy doesn't really
change the feeling like hungry all the time, feeling like
I want sweets. Right, although, Okay, now I know I'm
being crazy. Here's my plan, and you tell me if
this sounds correct. When I am really being good about
no sugar, which is the same as not drinking, I
don't have drinking cravings anymore. I quit. If I quit
sugar and really try to stay quit and I go
to the gym, I will probably lose some weight on
my own, okay, because I'm not eating ten brownies in
a sitting. So I should probably try that first. Yeah,
and if I just cannot do without sweets and I
just keep going back, then maybe look into it.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, I definitely try that first, of course. But
I don't blame you for wanting to look into it either.
Speaker 1: Because when you see everybody around the people that are
I know, everybody me that are just like want to
lose like ten pounds, fifteen pounds, and they're like doing
it and going it's great, right, Why I feel why
do you feel it? I know?
Speaker 2: I mean again, I have girlfriends that are, like a
year ago, we're saying like, no way, I'm never going
to do that, I'm just gonna go to the gym,
go to the gym whatever, and blah blah blah. Well
here we are a year later and everybody around them
is on it. They went to their doctor and their
doctor was like, yeah, I could give it to if
you want, you know, and they legitimately, you know, are
overweight and you know for issues like back, like I said,
knee problems. So they got prescribed and now they're on it.
Speaker 1: See. I feel like I would be being sneaky though
and trying to get it it. You know, do I
want to I don't know, you know what I mean
when you're not like I'm not My BMI is not
high enough to like actually get it by like listen,
I went on the websites and I put in my
true weight and they were like, no, oh, that you're
not you don't really qualify. Yeah, but I could just
All I would have to do is say I'm a
little bit heavier, and then they would be like great,
I can tried that too.
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, I think doctor knock around if
you talk to him about it, tell him your situation.
I bet he would get like a low dose or
something like that. You know, I'm not trying to.
Speaker 1: Talk you in or out, but like, yeah, no, I
guess I could ask him about it.
Speaker 2: I think you're overthinking it too, Like you're you're very
like aware, Yeah, you're very aware though of the you know,
the way your brain thinks and the addiction side of you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also you know, I am nearing sixty years old,
which is you know, it's harder to lose weight you're
older and post menopause, and right right now, I start
feeling sorry for myself, like, well, how am I going
to ever? Listen, I go off sugar for three days
and I'm like, why am I not finn yet? Right? Yeah?
I must have really slow metabolism. That's why I can't lose, right,
I mean, And it's like, well, no, it's because three
days ago you were eating an entire bag of yogurt
covered pretzels. Yeah, and ice cream. Yeah, well ice cream
gives me a stomach ache. But I think try to
just keep trying. You're doing it on your own, but
make an appointment, see the doctor and see what he says. Okay,
you're so sane. I wanted to just see what people
if people, Yeah, let's see what they say. Should do it?
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