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Speaker 1: Step into your power. I would love to talk to
ray La Montagne about how this song came about. Welcome
to another episode of Billifi that we or I should
say bill Lightenment that we do on Billified on this
snowy Saturday. Kind of a bonus. And Sheila Tillik, who's
been on twice now this is your third time, Sheil,
you keep coming back. What we must be doing something right.
I'm glad you love it. Uh. But here I this
will lead into some different things. So I woke up
yesterday and I noticed I had like redness in the
corner of my eye. And then last night, before I
went to bed, I noticed that I had a really
dark red splotch on the just below the outer part
of your color part of your eye, right, whatever that is. Yeah,
but is that the people? I thought the people was
the dark part. Yeah. So I'm looking at iris, the iris,
and I thought I was thinking to myself, Eh, I
wonder if I got pink eye, and I'm gonna be
around my parents who my dad is kind of COMPROMISEDLF.
My sister lives with lime disease, and she does all
kinds of things to try to, you know, keep herself going.
She's had it since she was eighteen and really at
times been very crippling and compromising her health. So I thought,
I don't want to bring anything. So I went to
urgent Care and I had a contact to Sheilding and said, listen,
I don't I don't know. I got a nine thirty
and then I'm going to try to sneak in there
in between. And it all worked out. I get in
there and they look and they go, no, it's just
a hemorrhage in your eye, and so you sort of
feel dumb, right, But at the same time, I thought,
I don't want to be bringing anything to anybody, and
I didn't want to bring it to you. I didn't
want to. Sheila's response was, which I absolutely loved. I
just won't hug you and I'll use hand sanitizer. And
I was like, oh, that's really cool. Okay, that's good.
So but I didn't want to. And then I'm thinking, like,
I don't know what I'm gonna do for Christmas if
I don't go to my sister's, what I'm gonna do
for my son? And so then they say it's just
an eye hemorrhage, and I thought, okay, and the guy's like,
I said stress and he said it could be a sneeze.
He goes, They're they're benign, and then blah blah blah.
And I'm thinking, you just took my blood pressure and
my pulse. They didn't tell me what it was. And
then when they said do you want the paperwork that
I'll have it, I said no because it just because
it just becomes cluttered, right it's yeah, so I don't
even know what it was. But my pulse is usually
around fifty five sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, that's low.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it's usually resting rate is fifty five. I've
did an EKG once and I went into I really
went into a meditative thing and I set off an
alarm because it got down to forty three beats minute. Yeah,
isn't that nuts? And I don't know what my blood
pressure was, but I know that lately I have been
stressed and it's bad and I am a I'll call
it the human part of our experience because I know
all the things, and I say all the things. And
when I say all the things, like let let it
go and you know, relax into the universe and let
it be and try to keep that better feeling thoughts,
because I think our feelings are our guide and our
emotions are our guide to you know, how we're doing
and where we're vibrating and all this stuff. And I
was like, man, what am I doing wrong? And I
told Chila that I often look for patterns in life.
I look for it with people and I look for
it with different things. And I'll just as an example,
if somebody gets accused of something, I'll go, I know
this person and I haven't seen that pattern. I'm not
saying that they're not guilty, but I would say we
need to kind of look into this right so that
those are the things how I live. And I've noticed
a pattern around money with me that sometimes I just
get and I've noticed, like my whole life, there's always
been right down to the wire, buddy, you're you know
what I mean, You're right down to the wire and
it's always worked out. And I've had a nice life.
I've done tremendous things. I write, Everything's always worked out.
But I go, how do I how do I fix that?
How do I unblock that? I do think that there's
a blockage. And it's funny because I want to try
to teach my son, but at his own pace with
different things. So and I don't mean to a lot
of thoughts in my head right now, So I just
just let me just share this with you. Aaron Rodgers
is a quarterback in the NFL. Are you familiar with
Aaron Rodgers? Okay? So he has sort of been vilified
at times. And I noticed this Netflix series called Aaron
Rodgers Enigma, and in it it does this whole thing
about how he grew up and all these things to
winning the Super Bowl. And he said after that, it
was like, now what? And he said, I always wanted
to be so much. I wanted to be more of
than So he went on this spiritual journey, and he
goes down to Costa Rica and does ayahuasca ceremonies and
then he did a miretreat and he gets I mean,
they blast him right, and then he gets traded to
the Jets. And last year their opening game was against
the Buffalo Bills, and four plays into the thing, here
comes thirty nine year old four time NFL MVP Aaron Rodgers,
super Bowl winner only once and he blows out his
achilles on the fourth play out for the season. Herman
that if they make it to the playoffs, he's going
to be back. He works so hard, and it shows
him working and stretching it and going back and then
he went into it. He had done the Darkness to
Retreat at one point and all these things. And I
so my son walks in and he says to me,
I always think that Aaron Rodgers may be a little
bit misunderstood. And I said, yeah, I think I think
he is. And he said, uh, but he does some
of this weird stuff, you know, like that, And I said, yeah,
but I sort of do too. I mean, I haven't
done ayahuasca ceremonies, but I said, I believe a lot
of the similar things of him, and he's like and
he goes, oh, like the lady that you've had on
I oh, yeah, Sheila. He goes yeah. I said, do
you know that your grandmother is a level three Reikie
healer And he went what And I said yeah. He goes,
I don't know about all this stuff. Dad. I said, oh,
this is okay, And he started having kind of a
for a fourteen year old what I would say was
a deeper philosophical discussion about this sort of stuff. And
I said to him, well, you don't have to, I said,
I certainly would like to guide you to be thinking
and be open. That's all I'm asking. Just try to
be open about it. But I'm not going to tell
you what to do or how to live. Because he
even in a prior conversation said to me, you're really
loose with me. And I'm like, I didn't know what
that meant at first, Well, like, yeah, but not strict.
I don't I said to him, what do you mean
by that? I said, look, you had a buddy over.
You guys went out when I told you not to.
And I got up and I go into your bedroom
and you've got balls and things under the blankets to
make it like like you're there and you come walking
back to get something, and I said, get that kid
back here, he's going home. Yeah, and he goes, yeah,
but you never really brought it up again, you don't.
I go, why one and done. I don't need to
yell at you. I don't need to bring things up.
I go, I have a father who still brings up yeah,
everything I did. I'm fifty three. He still brings up, Hey,
remember when blah blah blah. Remember that girl you dated
babba like all the time. I said, I don't want
that for you. I don't want to do that. And
I said, if we can learn and move forward, that's it.
Repeat it and well things will get tighter. But until
then we're fine. And he's like, yeah, but you let
me cook my weird stycho. Yeah. I think it's good
for your brain. I don't appreciate the mess, and I
don't appreciate your lame attempt of cleaning up. But that
will work on that, and that's it. So but to
that point, I call my mother on the way here,
and my mother answers the phone and I hear another
voice and I hear something else, and they're like, are
you going to answer it? And she's like, they go, well,
then hit the red button, and I'm going, what is
going on? And I go, I thought, my mother's going.
I can't see it. I don't know where it is.
I don't know where it is. I thought, oh my god,
my mom something stroggling. No, she is at a healing ceremony.
She's at a sound healing and she was helping them
set up early because she called me back and I said, oh,
I said, I got worried that you were in the
emergency room and you stroked out and couldn't remember how
to use your phone or something. And she said, no,
I'm out of healing and we're gonna do sound healing.
And I got here early to help set up and
she said I couldn't you know whatever. So all this
stuff has been around. My mother never really talked to
us about any of this stuff. And she was brought
up Irish Catholic to the point where I think, I
told you my grandfather didn't talk to us when we
switched Protestant. And she does all these these things and
she still goes to church. She says, she goes. Can
blended all together for her and it makes her feel good.
Speaker 2: We're going tonight to a ceremony.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to a healing ceremony.
Speaker 2: As Sissy Institute. Okay, all right, so we're gonna have
gathering spiritual people get together too. Yes, it's all about
love and being together.
Speaker 1: Right, So all this stuff is I'm telling you, I'm
kind of rambling here. It all sort of tied together.
And I go, how weird is this? That? The stress?
And you're seeing the ceiling. Sheila who is a healer,
and you can go to Shila tillic dot com t
I L L I c H and she will set
up an appointment and go and find out for yourself
how wonderful this stuff is. And I just thought, and
there's my mom doing it, and here's my son asking
about it. And I watched Aaron Rodgers who's been on
this thing, and it gave me a greater understanding and
honestly and appreciation for what that guy is trying to
do and trying to figure out. And I know you
want to talk about a specific thing that we're not alone,
we're not alone, and which is I think should be
a comforting thing.
Speaker 2: For people, very comforting, excuse me, very comforting.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: What I want to share about is I am the
only one left out of my family eight kids, two parents,
so there was ten of.
Speaker 1: Us, and I feel like a winner.
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm the one. I know that last one, but
I knew it. But that's my role.
Speaker 1: What do you mean you knew it?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: How did you know it?
Speaker 2: I felt it? And so what I shared before and
a couple other ones, I've always been able to communicate
with angels, yes, all right, And angels always been divine
messages of God. And I was always told by the
Catholic Church, especially the nuns, that I couldn't and that was,
you know, blasphemy and only the priests and God can
connect with the angels type thing. And so I hit
it for a long time. But I always knew and
everything that I had gone through my life, I felt
like I had warm arms around me, all right, and
they were the angels. They were the angels connecting with me.
So we talk about angels, you talk about and higher dimension,
all right, and higher frequency, and so we're in that
higher frequency now and my whole life has been building
up to do what I do now. So you were
talking about programming and belief systems right, And you know
your mother doing you know reiki and energy work, and
you're you know a different other people. That's the energy
that's here now, all right. And I had many many
siblings that I'm very close with, more closer with all
of them in death than I was. I was close
to many of them. But the one brother's name was Bob,
and he had passed away in twenty nineteen. Now, he
was very spiritual. We were we shared our lives together,
and we did a lot of things with our recovery people.
And because he's gone, I can say his name just Bob.
And however, he had a lot of anger inside. And
so we talked about fear, and you talked about lack
of money wise, right, So that's that's natural, that is society.
Speaker 1: But the weird thing, and I'm sorry to interrupt, I
want you to stay on track here. It didn't matter
how much money I made, Jack, it was always there
I made Without sounding too much like a jerk, I
made a lot of money. Yeah, I made a lot
of money, and I still would go it's not that,
but I just I will tell you that. The other
thing that I think is I never did a budget.
I never did I just went about things and it
was always there and so I never really worried. And
then but there are times where I've gone, oh, man,
I really need to get my shit together, and I don't,
and I just keep kind of going on shorts guilty.
Speaker 2: You know, you you, you know been told you need
to do this. But many of us are wakening up
that there's more than things that we've been taught, and
there's more important things, you know, like that football player
went on a spiritual journey, you know, anyone on high
walsca and plant medicine is good to a point, and
there's a whole bunch of different ways of getting in
touch with the higher power inside. All right, So when
you talk you did the song with power. That's what
it's all about, is that each and every one of
us have power inside. But we've been told that we don't.
We've been told that we need to do this, this,
and this or not going to be with God or
whatever or be sixessful or approved or liked. And as
we have been growing, things have been evolving. And that's
what's here now, is the evolving of who we are
as souls. We have the power, but a lot of
people are still stuck in the fear. And that's exactly
what I do. I help them with a fear and
I know it because I've gone through it. And so
my brother was very stuck in the fear. And he
was a staunch marine. He was a staff sergeant Marine.
It was his way or the highway, Oh my gosh,
and I love that of him, and I'm very, very
proud of him. However, we also had a lot of
dysfunctional stuff that we grew up with, having both alcoholic parents,
and so with that we learned how to live and
not look at things that, you know, take care of ourselves.
If I don't do this, this is what's going to happen.
So he lived in a lot of fear. And before
he died, about eight months before he died, we were estranged.
And we call it our time out and I'll throw
our lives. We've been estranged like three times. And why
we were estranged that we were at one of the
Mexican restaurants and we were talking about my will, about
being executor and stuff like that, and then he turns
it around of people that he didn't want at his funeral,
and he was screaming at me in the restaurant exactly.
Speaker 1: That's sort of funny.
Speaker 2: It's funny because.
Speaker 1: How do you you don't have any control of them? What? Okay?
Speaker 2: No, but but his anger was still there and he
didn't want certain people that he was angry at, and
he caught out of his life because they were telling
him about his anger, all right, and he didn't want
to listen to it, just like I had told him
many times about his anger. But it's okay. It's like,
it doesn't matter if you're together or not. You're still
in each other's lives in your soul. And that's why
I say I'm very very close to them after death.
He's very close with me now and tell me that
I was right on everything. But that's another story. So
what happened was eight months went by and he had
a massive heart attack and he was brain dead for
almost brain dead. He had to listen twenty percent of
his brain left for five days. And during that time
I was his advocate to communicate with the health professionals
and they were also my old co workers, and he
also was the archivist for the hospital, so he was
known and so during that time, so many beautiful things happened.
And when it happened. His son called me from New
Orleans and said, you got to go to Dad real quick.
And I was a healthcare proxy ever since he was
in the Marines in the seventies, so we were always
that close. However, when we got to the hospital, all
of our friends were there, and the doctor told us
that he had lessened twenty percent of his brain left,
which I knew because I was with him, and I've
taken care of a lot of patients like that when
I used to work at RGH. And so what happened
was after they told us that all my family members
came to me, and you know, I was in shock.
You know, my friends around me and his neighbors. His
son wasn't because he was down in New Orleans. And
I said to myself, oh, here we go again, because
I've helped a lot of my my siblings pass over,
you know, as the hospice caregiver since in the nineties.
And then I'll call also what I do in the
metaphysical world and what I did at the hospital. And
so they came to me and I said why another one,
why And all of my loved ones, all my angels,
and also my family members came to me and they said,
this is what you're here to do. And then I knew.
I knew. I already knew that I was going to
be the last one left. I already knew that, but
also it confirmed me. And then all of a sudden,
my brother, the one Bob and I'm talking about his face,
came right before me. And he wasn't angry because I
can see, I can feel, and I know, and I
can hear, and he says, I'm not coming back. You
know what to do. I'll be calm the shots and
understanding right beside you. And that's exactly what happened for
those five days. One of his friends, who was actually
a sponsor, was a retired hospice nurse, and if I
wasn't at the hospital, he was at the hospital, and
a lot of the stuff orchestrated that when a person
has that type of stuff, there's different procedures that you
do to try to keep them alive and find out
how much damage was done. But he was going to
control it, and he did with the different things that
happened to him. So it took five days before he
actually passed. I was with him. I was the only
one with him, and I'm very very grateful for what
I do. I really am. And so there's a whole
bunch more stuff, but the key here is the day
of his service.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: One of his friends, who was, you know, to do
what you do, kind of a disc jockey. He actually
kind of let everything. I mean, I'm a minister too,
but you know, it's kind of personal stuff. And then
I was the last one to spoke. And before he
went to the service, you know, I asked, you know,
what do you want me to say? You know, because
I give the eulogies all the time, and he says,
tell everybody what I told you when I came to you.
I said, you got to be kidding me. A lot
of those people don't even know that I talked to angels.
When I have this ability, he says, they have to
know that it's all about love. The fear is gone.
Those are just things that you learn to do to
learn these lessons. And we talked about that before, about
the lessons that you learn and the roles that you
play in each of your lifetimes and why you're here.
And so that's what I did. I kind of share
a lot of them knew who I was. Of course
they were all you know, close friends and stuff like that,
and also people that he worked with at the hospital,
but he worked for Strong at the time, and so
I told that, you know, he had a lot of
stuff inside of him and he wanted everybody to know
that he loves you all and that it's really all
about fear. That's about love. Let go of all the fear,
the anger, all those emotions that you have with your
loved ones is because when you cross over, it's about love.
Everything's gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything's gone, sheil. I have always, not always, but
I have come to believe that the resistance is gone.
So which would be fear? Correct?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's the things we put in, like
why don't we do something, Why don't we do this?
Why don't we do that? And it's fear or I
guess because I always thought, Man, I'm not afraid of
I'm not really afraid of anything, but I am.
Speaker 3: But you are.
Speaker 2: But you know what it's it's as like we said before,
it's good fear and you know, bad fear, you know,
and it's being smart you know?
Speaker 1: Did that mean? Yeah? Did I ever tell you about
what happened here? A couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Tell me, you know.
Speaker 1: If I remember, just to give you a perspective on
maybe my interpretation of what fear would be or not.
So I don't normally like the door. It's just a room.
It's a studio, right, It's just the studio. And I
have a front window that will point out to the
sidewalk and things, and there's a Chinese restaurant on this
and it's nice. I like it. I love watching people
walk by. Sometimes people stop in and they'll talk to
me about the podcasts and things. And there was a
gentleman who was pacing back and forth in front, and
then all of a sudden just opens the door and screams,
very loudly, take a picture, motherfucker, or something like that.
So I'm sitting here and I what is my reaction?
I started laughing because it was funny to me. I'm like,
this is nuts. So the guy disappears, and then all
of a sudden he comes back and he'll opens the
door and he starts screaming again and accusing me of
having ben with his girlfriend. Oh no, and I never was.
I never was. But I didn't even know who he
was talking about and then the girl walks up and
I go, oh, I do know her, but I've never
so he's like yeah, and so then he lunges at
me and he's doing this. So I stood up and
I just started screaming, get the blank out of here.
I will kill you. Do never come in here again.
This is where I do business. You don't come in
here and do that sort of stuff. And then I
was telling somebody. They go, you're you're insane, like why
wouldn't you have lied? And I didn't lock the door. Again,
I didn't. I didn't even think to I just like
I walked out. I mean I walked right out there
and he and he's going, I'll knock you out. And
he's mentioned another friend of mine that he's gonna knock
out and all this stuff, and I'm going okay, and
he walked away, clearly having a bad day. I would say,
it's not normal, but whatever, and his girlfriend was standing
in the window giving me the cut sign to cut
it out. Now. Normally that would be something that you
should be afraid of, right, A fight or flight? Yeah,
And I why, I don't know. And there are things
like fight or flight that would scare me right, But
I always get to the point where I'm like, well,
let's see what happens, and I've had this awful saying
and I hope this doesn't offend you. And I don't
know if if you've heard it all, let these words
out on what I know. I understand, but I don't
know if you want this, like if I were to
share this video with you or something. But I was
always like, fuck it, jump, Let's see what happens, right,
fuck it jump, because what's the worst that's going to happen.
So I haven't had and that's only in things like
get in a race car and how fast can we
get around the track, or let's go on a dragstrip.
Those are things that will scare you like I, but
I love the adrenaline and how I feel after I've
done one hundred and forty miles an hour and a
quarter mile. It's amazing, it's it's it's an unbelievable feeling.
But that's not really fear. Fear of not going through
with the project because I don't know what's going to
happen or I don't know what the next step is,
and instead of trying to find it, you just go
as easier not to which I think that's the real fear.
And this other stuff is sort of like it's sort
of like a challenge with that. I don't know if
I'm saying it correctly. I don't know if I am
to you or not.
Speaker 2: You are, but that's just being human. I mean, what
happened was, yeah, I would stand up and say whatever.
But as you evolve, you kind of you can see
the anger of coming towards you, and then you can
you can choose to be part of it or not. Yeah,
but it's it's hard. It's hard being human. It's hard
going through those emotions, yes, and also things that you've
done in the past you can unchange. A lot of times,
stuff that we do, all right, we feel will still
feel guilty for and there's nothing we can do to
change it. But we can go from here on. Like
people who are very scared to die, yes, right, Yes,
they're so scared to die, and because they've been told
that they're going to go to hell, all right, and
that this is what's going to happen. And a lot
of times it's older people that keep hanging on, hanging on,
hanging on, and a lot of people say why, it's
because they're fear. You know, they haven't. You know a
lot of times the loved ones will come to them, right,
and then they will start to connect with the loved
ones that type of stuff. They'll let go of the fear.
But the human way of living is hold on to
that fear is because that's what you've been programmed to know.
Now the energy is different, and now you meet people
like me in the energy field who are coming forward
to say, this isn't spooky, this isn't bad, this is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I've hit on such a thing for me.
The story I told was to say most people would
be scared in that situation, right, And my thing was like, eh,
this is nothing. I know that this guy's just he's
not after me. He's mad about something else. It has
nothing to do with that everybody's But I'm going to
push you out. I'm gonna push you in your anger
out my door, and I'm not I'm not gonna come
after you and I'm not gonna lay hands on you.
I'm not going to do anything. And I don't think
you are either. But I think that you're something's crazy
and it doesn't involve me. And that's how I see
a lot of things lately. That's how I see a
lot of stuff. I see it. I think with my
kid where he says, you're loose with me, it's I
can see what happens. I can see when I need
to not be loose, and I can see when I
can be loose, and I I it's it's a total
change for me over the past couple of years. And
then I also see but I see things where like
right now, I have talked to people about a new
project and they're sending me things like a deck and
this is how you would do it, and this is
how we pitch it and can we sell it to
Netflix or whatever? And I'm like, I almost shut down,
like I but it's not fear. I wouldn't say I'm scared,
but I am because I'm not stepping into it and
doing it, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that that's your that's your awakening, all right.
And then you you have the fear of not succeeding
of what you've always done. And these people are you know,
bringing all this and only makes sense and they like,
they say, well, why don't you do it? Only makes sense?
But you're listening to your eternal thermometer. You're listening to
your power inside. And there's no coincidence. Why I'm here,
there's no coincidence is that this time and humanity is
changing so rapidly and it's gonna get worse. It's gonna
get worse. But the thing is, what do.
Speaker 1: You mean what do you mean by by worse?
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of stuff that's come out with with
the UH being, a lot of things speak becoming concealed.
A lot of things are coming out too. It's just
coming out where there's more than that coming out. And
what's happening is that they're playing upon a fear of
This is the agenda. This is what's going to happen.
The Conspiracy series has been here from for a long
long time, and the whistleblowers are starting to come out.
It's not only in politics. It is about the whole world.
That's why we're all connected to it and we're all
going through it. But what I want to tell your
audience is that we're going to be okay. It has
to come out before for us to go forward. Now
with your situation, I can see you're understanding it. It's
about you don't have to behave that way, and you're
learning to step in your power. That's where the energy
of your field or electromagnetic field is changing because you're
being connected with powerful energy yourself, but also other people
like me and other people like your mother, and so
like that. It's like, well, maybe they're right, Maybe this
is true, and it's all about facing your fears and
going beyond it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I the only reason I brought up the
thing because I think that that's what we say is
scary the dog barking on the end of a chain,
which is what I would equate this gentleman to who
came in here that people's sphere where I think the
real fear is why aren't you doing something? What is
holding you back? What's blocking you on this path to evolving?
Why aren't you whatever that is? Why are you avoiding
something that you and it gnaws at you when you
know that it's there. You need to do this, But
but how or what or whatever?
Speaker 2: Because being turned away, being not accepted, you have to
do different, And a lot of people don't want a differ
different because they know they're going to lose a lot
of people. So think about that. People that have been
brought up a certain way, and if you start doing different,
you don't behave then say well I told you so,
and then you're going to feel worse again.
Speaker 1: That's how Aaron Rodgers in this piece exactly says he
doesn't talk to his family. And it's been a big thing,
you see at least in this docuseries. And it's three episodes,
and I laid on the couch like a lump and
watched all three. They're about an hour each. I always
worry that I'm wasting my time, but I don't think
I did with this one. Uh well, I'll.
Speaker 2: Think about that. You're not wasting your time because you've
been able to come and talk about it this time. Yeah,
and to help your audience see that there's more to
life than what you're seeing.
Speaker 1: Well, what the what I was going to say is
he does not talk to family members who were so
rigid as he had in their biblical belief And you know,
he was so happy that he had different opportunities to
sort of expand his thinking and expand his awareness of
things and all this. And at one point I think
RFK Junior asked him to be his vice presidential candidate,
and he it down because he wanted to continue playing football.
But that's all in the docu series. But his whole
thing was like, yeah, I don't talk to them much
because there's too much. And he said, I'm not saying
that there's ever a chance that I won't talk to
them again. That's not true. I will. And he said,
I'm a reconciliation. Absolutely, he said, but I but right
now it can't happen. And I thought, wow, okay, but
it was exactly what you were saying. Exactly what you're
saying where some people will not want to be around
you or not want to deal with you, or think
you're kookie or woo woo or whatever. And you know
when you were saying things about loved ones come to
us and help us cross over. Right. I just remember,
and this will lead me to something else that I
will ask you. When my grandfather, I was nineteen years
old and he was a New York City fireman and
like that big man of the hell, he was gonna
always do stuff, and he was huffing and puffing and
all around him. My father hadn't It wasn't his father,
my mom's dad. He always had a nickname for him.
He called him the flop because he never sat down
like my grandmother would say something. He's up and huffing
and puffing and fixing them, doing and doing and do it.
So he's dying in the hospital with colon cancer because
and he was young by comparison to today. He was
sixty nine years old. But he had never he wouldn't
have his prostate checked, he wouldn't have any Yeah, that's
why you got it. So uh he go by the way, yep,
and that there's a lot of talking ego in uh,
a lot of talk of the death of ego in
Aaron Rodgers' docu series. I almost want to watch it
again exactly. So he is dying and like to the
point of always wanting to be helpful. I had done
a triathlon. I was nineteen, down in Bear Mountain and
my bike chain broke as I was coming into the shoots,
just fell off the thing whatever, And I remember coming by,
I'll never forget it, and this woman blows past me
and this little kid goes, hey, mister, a girl's beating you,
which I thought was the cutest thing in the world.
So everybody must have told my grandfather and I come
up to see him. He goes, oh, Billy, when I
get out of here, we'll fix that bike. I'm like, yeah, no,
you're not getting out of here. And then like the
next day or something, he starts talking to the wall basically,
and he says, Mom, not yet, not yet, Mom, not
right now, not yet. No, I see you, Mom, I
see you, but not yet, not yet. I got it
a little bit more, a little bit more. And everybody
said it's the morphine talking, because he was in pain.
He was the morphine talking. So I've always always stuck
with me that he was so like it, calm, not
freaked out, not yet, mom, not yet, not yet, little
thing I got. So I don't know, I have no idea.
So everybody said it was the morphine. I wrote it
off to the morphine, but always in the back of
my head going, em, that's so sure. And then I've
met somebody since who told me that sometimes people die
and they don't know they're dead because they're so drugged up,
or they died so suddenly that they will sometimes attach
to your human spirit because they don't realize they're dead.
And then we have attachments. Do you believe this or
am I being nutty?
Speaker 2: Okay, so part of that was linear thinking, trying to
make sense of it. I come from the frequency, the
vibrational part, and I know because I've lived it. And
there's a couple other stories too, and I got to
finish about my brother, but I'm sorry, no, no, no, no,
that's right, and it's spirit is there. Your loved ones
are there. They're just in a different frequency, yes, right,
And when a person is towards the end, they're like
halfway in and halfway out. So when I set up
my brother was five days was he was handling everything.
He was above his bed. I was talking to him
as soon as I seen him. He was above his head.
And I knew it when I first went into the hospital.
And so he was here in the physical body, but
he really wasn't here. The spirit was above. And that's
the same with our loved ones. They do come back
for us and they are around. So why I wanted
to continue is when I got the diagnosis from the
doctor about my brother, his sponsor, Herb, who was a
you know, as I said, a retired hospice worker, I
was like kind of embarrassed because I emotionally he says,
he says, don't ever feel embarrassed for feeling your feelings,
which I that's what I tell other people too. But
he says, you know, he says, many cases I've had,
I've always wondered that, and I've seen that, and I
wondered myself, and I always knew that it was real.
The spirit was real. They were here to come, and
he said, says, I had this one person that he says, herb,
I love you. I love you, And he was almost
ready to go. He says, he says, but if you
walk through my angel at the end of the bed
one more time, I'm going to get up and coll
cock you. And he told me, he says, I am
so grateful for you. He says, I wish I had
your abilities to be able to see. He said, but
from then on, I respected the spirit. I respected when
they were talking about it. And I know all my
loved ones did the same. I know it. And same
with my older brother when he died in twenty twelve,
he came to me. Well, the night before he died,
he came to me and I was at the hospital
and he was so excited about a bunch of stuff.
And the next morning is when he passed, and he
came to me when he died and I was in
Ivy services. I was taking my lunch. It was one
twenty eight, and he says, chill, chill, it's beautiful here.
And I was in shock, and the nurses behind me,
they were working on the computers. And I said, in
my head, validate yourself. This is how this is evidence
of stuff that I'd gone through. And he says, in
my mind, I seen he showed him and I walking
down the wedding nile, and he says, I gave you away,
didn't I. And then I set out loud, oh my god,
my brother just died. My brother just died. And the
nurses behind me said, oh, Jill, you're nuts with all
this physical stuff. But they wanted all my books about
the doctors that have crossed over and come back and
starting to come to light. This is twenty twelve, okay.
And so what happened within the hour I was able
to verify that's exactly what happened. And there's a whole
bunch of things that he did, But personally, what he
did with me is that I went and picked up
my other sister in Panyane and that night, all of
a sudden I heard on my phone angelic can kind
of space age music. I said, what the heck's going on?
And he loved Hearts of Spade, like you know, Star
Trek stuff was. He was a metaphysical researcher, you know,
so he believed in all this stuff that I that
I know now that he laughs at me about it.
This is my brother George, right, and he's the one
that had the radio show over four thousand taped shows,
and so we used to say, yeah, he's just just crazy,
years and years ago. So what happened was that I
could turn that phone off and that music was still
playing for two weeks. And he did the same thing
to his daughter's phones, all right, and he did with
some of the other family members. And when we went
to the funeral, you know, in Albany, my brother Bob,
the one that died in nineteen was so angry because
my sister Karina and I were saying, well, that's George,
that's George, and the music woke them up in the
middle of the night and he threw that phone and
he says, you have to go back to Verizon and
get phone fixed, you know, and we laugh because we
knew it was him, and so that was for two weeks.
And what happened was when I got back, I went
to a spirit board class and some of my teachers
that were teaching me mediumship and stuff like that, and
George came through and he validated. He told through the
other people the dates that he died. First of all,
his name, the date that he died, and then also
that he was going to be there when my cat
passed over. He didn't know anything about my cat having problems,
and it was the next month my other two sisters did.
So it was like they know things. They're always with you.
So what I want to tell you about my brother Bob.
So it was in twenty nineteen, right before Christmas, is
when he passed, right, And it was last summer. I
was at Unity Hospital with another friend, Junie Healan, and
somebody that was almost going to be a paraplegic, and
I knew she wasn't going to be Katie, my friend Katie.
I knew she wasn't going to And then so you know,
we were on the east side and we went all
the way to the west side of Rochester and we
went out to dinner and I said to her, where
did you want to go because I used to live
on the West Side, and she goes, I don't care.
I said, well, let's go to the brook House and
read Fidelli, you know. So we went there, and as
soon as we sat down, right across from us was
the person that he didn't want at his funeral, Tommy.
Now Tommy and another guy that eadn' wants the room
they came to the funeral. Yeah. I talked to his
son and he said, absolutely. They helped grow me up
and something, you know, help raise me. So they were there,
you know, so they heard what I said. What Bob
said is all about love, kind of like a healing.
So almost four years later, we walk in and they're
right across and him and his wife were celebrating their
fiftieth wedding anniversary. Oh nice, no coincidence that we went
to the brook House, they told me, and I could
hear Bob the whole time talk to me Brooks.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: We had lots of fun there. So I went there
and as soon as I seen Tommy, him and I
we started crying. I got up and I went and
hugged him whatever. And then before and when I came
and sat down Michelle. Michelle and I was eating and
all of a sudden, I took a sip of my
coffee and my brother comes from behind me around. Michelle
goes over to Tommy and gives them a big hug.
And Tommy and Michelle, so, are you okay? Because I
was drinking coffee and I said, my brother's here. He
just went and hugged tom and so, you know, they
were just he just kind of went like this when
he was eating. He didn't know what was going on.
So we went outside afterwards, and he says, She'll He says,
I have been thinking about Bob the last couple of days.
He says, I cannot believe that I was never was
able to make amends, you know, for the stuff that
happened between them, And I says Tommy, I said, don't
you get it. I says, he had me come here.
I live overund the West east Side. I haven't been
over on this side in eleven years, at brook House
to Red's house, you know Red. And I said, there's
no coincidence. I says, he came and he wanted to
wish you guys and give you a gift, a big
hug for your fiftieth wedding anniversary. This stuff you can't
make up.
Speaker 1: No, But if you say it, Sili, you sound like
a lunatic. Do you know what I'm saying? Like people
got it, but but it happened. But it doesn't matter
because I I don't know why. But I think the
purchase that you're talking about. Absolutely believe that that's what happened.
Speaker 2: Well it did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it happened. I mean I do. But
I'm saying you say that to some people that are like, oh,
that's right.
Speaker 2: But if you think about it, think about when you've
lost somebody and all of a sudden you're thinking about them,
and all of a sudden you you pick up something,
you find someone that there's that's evidence too, but people
don't want to that's that's spooky and I'm not going
to believe that. But a lot of that stuff is
coming out now and you can connect with your loved ones.
Speaker 1: I don't think that there's any coincidences in life anymore.
I don't think there's any accidents. I think that everything
is sort of I don't know if it's already done.
I don't know. There's people who say it's all done.
Everything's happened. You're just looking at memories, just a different
perspective on what had happened. I don't know, but I
The only thing I had recently was I wanted to
get I was looking for a book for one of
the guys on the podcast, and down at the bottom
they made a suggestion for another one. And the book
is called Don't Believe Everything You Think. It's the beginning
and ending of suffering is thinking. The beginning and ending
of suffering is thinking. So I thought, oh, I got
to get that book. And I didn't write down the title.
I didn't write down anything. And I meet with a
group of guys once a month or so, I call
them my wise counsel. I think I've told you about that.
So I go to this breakfast. Did I tell you
this story? Ready?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But go ahead.
Speaker 1: So I get there and I can't remember the name
of the book, and the guy goes into another room,
comes out with it, and I'm like, oh my god,
that's the book. And then I was because my plan
was I was going to Barnes and Noble after the
breakfast to get the book, and I go that wasn't
an accident, No, that wasn't an accident. I need to
get that book for people, and I don't know, I
don't know what that is.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's what I'm talking about. The energy feels
is different now and it's purposely on different different and
that's the energy that's here now. And what I said,
you know what's come out in the last six months,
what we have seen played out in the world, okay,
is showing the things that have been held from us, right,
the conspiracy theories and stuff like that that whenever we
come out and talk about they say, oh, it's just
conspiracy theories. But it's the opposite way around it is.
But it's all trying to get you confused. Just like
these drones that we talked about. It's all about fear
how when you think that we're being invaded, But there's
so much more behind it, and it's coming The truth
is coming out. So the truth is with that book
is that what is being revealed has always been here.
It's the spiritual side. It's the higher frequency side. Just
like they say, you know, the revelation, Jesus coming back,
and you know all the Christians believe this is what's happening. Well,
what's coming back is the spiritual awakening is the power
that we have inside to use that and intuition and
knowing things. Your gut feeling is the spiritual part of
your DNA you have. Okay, all right, it's scientific, a
lot of scientific stuff, you know, and that's what's going
to come out. It's going to show it, just like
with Kennedy with all the pesticides and all the food,
the stuff and our food and what we've been known.
We've known and we've been trying to get it out,
but of course we've been controlled that we couldn't. Right now,
things are opening up and things are going to change.
It's going to be rocky, but it's going to open
up and it's going to be better. It's just the fear.
So that's what my job is to help people learn
that it's okay and you can feel all these emotions,
which is great, but nothing can hurt you unless you
allow it. That's that's where taking responsibility and taken action.
And a lot of people they can't take action because
they don't know how.
Speaker 1: So okay, that that that's a right there is I
think the they don't know how The point right.
Speaker 2: So that this stuff is crazy.
Speaker 1: Right, So how do you Because I I'm a big believer,
and I say things. It's like life is never gonna
stop coming at you, right, It's never gonna stop coming
at you. So, but I also believe there is no
meaning to any of it's other than the meaning you
attached to it. So but no one And and then
sure somebody says something. You can be in a bad mood,
your feelings are hurt, or somebody does something and that
pisses you off or whatever, and you can say I'm
this way because you blanked.
Speaker 2: Because they're blaming that they have to blame somebody else, right.
Speaker 1: But but the truth I believe is there's no assertion.
And yet we allow assertion, like we'll say, well, all
the boss made me or the whatever. But there's no assertion.
There's really no assertion here. And that's a nice and
easy thing to say, but a hard concept I think
to sometimes really truly buy into with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's coming though, coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that okay, and.
Speaker 2: I understand it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And when you, like I believe, we all have
the power. I had a weird thing the other day.
You can't mean to say stuff I would never say.
Speaker 2: But I, well, you know a lot of people didn't
know that about me, but it's true. I mean, I
can't you can't take those stories away from me because
they happened to me.
Speaker 1: Yes, And also the.
Speaker 2: Coworkers started talking to me, coworkers at the hospital with
my brother, stuff that we've always sown. In the healthcare,
we see people die, we see things, and we can't
tell people about it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: One of the doctors says, do you see auras? Do
you know about the chakras? Like you know, my grandmother
told me when I was a kid, I was going
to be healer. And this guy was from the east,
you know, East whatever and so, and towards a couple
of days before the day before he died, one of
the doctors came to me that wasn't the regular doctor
and says, you know, we're worried about the fever. And
then my brother's yelling at me. He said, I don't
care them. They have to listen to the power of
attorney that I don't want any life support and they're
trying to keep me alive, and I know we're going
in healthcare is so that they can you know, he
was an organ donator why they were doing that, but
he was like he was in control. He was a marine.
He wanted and it wasn't only me. And the doctor says, yeah,
I know, I can feel it. He can feel what
the energy in the room that he was a very
and also she said, I see you as a very
powerful man, and you know his wishes aren't being abided
by I says, yeah, I says, so we have to,
you know, talk to my net whatever. So people are
wakening up to it, but they don't want to admit it.
And I remember when I first was placed on the
IVY services, the manager that I had. It's a long story,
but anyway, she says, you're the right person because you've
been through it, and a lot of the young nurses
have never been through it, so you can help them
deal with, you know, the anger and the feelings they
have that they didn't save their person right. A lot
of times those persons were ready to go, but their role,
as you know, do no harm always. Yes, It's like
people are here for a certain amount of time and
it is for those lessons. And when we start to
look at those lessons and realize that the power that
we have to use those lessons or not. All right,
So your grandfather, you know, and your parents and stuff
like that, and your own awakening is happening. And by
you showing other people your awakening by having these kind
of podcasts about enlightenment, enlightenmentt you're opening up to who
you really are and helping everybody else.
Speaker 1: Well, I believe this. I believe that, as we said,
it's nothing but love, right, and it's a higher frequency.
You're still here, just on a different frequency. I can't right.
I would think that you can have heaven on earth
if you you don't have to wait to die to
live that way exactly. And I think that that's part
of the thing. But we get bogged down and I
always think, now, well we've been programmed wrong exactly. That's
how I see things exactly. So with all that, but
go back to where you're you know, like you have
all the power. We have all the power. And I
was starting to say to you, I was listening to
something the other day and it was a stream. They're saying,
you know, you get in the stream, but you control
that stream of how it goes. And I had this wild,
nutty vision of myself standing there and just kind of
moving my hands around and moving things like you would
on an iPad or a giant screen, and I'm just
gonna put this here, and I'm gonna put this here,
and I go, ah, that's the kind of power we
actually have if we get to the right frequency. Excuse me.
And I thought, is that sounds kind of kooky? And
if you say that to somebody, like you could just
do this and that, you know, I'm not saying we
have to you know, the grind and the hard work
and all that stuff. I'm not so sure that that
is necessary. And it is, but when you get into
the zone, it's easy. In the zone, it's easy, and
so you can go. But the word grind has such
a negative connotation to it, and I don't yeah, and
I don't think you have to to feel that way.
I think you have to probably do the same steps,
but you could do them with a lighter heart, and
you'll see that it's actually easier and things can move
and you can just kind of I mean, you know,
I'll move in my hands, move your hands around and
just go, okay, I'm putting this over. I'm pushing energy.
Speaker 2: Energy. It's all about energy, yeah, And that's what.
Speaker 1: You're doing but I and I'm gonna always say to people,
think of yourself as you know, just put your hands
sort of like this, and you can feel the heat.
I have heat that comes off me. I would always
say to people, I run hot, I run hot. I
always am warm. I'm always warm. And when you do this,
I can feel it. And then I try to go
out and out and out and out and out, and
then sometimes I'll just shoot that energy somewhere. I don't
know if I'm doing anything. It sounds crazy, and I
don't normally admit that you are.
Speaker 2: You are and so okay, this is good. So I
teach this. I teach integrated energy therapy, and there's three
different levels and each of those levels you are tuned
and your mom knows about this about reiki to that frequency.
When we get to the advance frequency, we talk about
more of the energy work. And once you start to
work on yourself and expand your energy field, you have
a field, all right that is around you, and you
can change what is going to happen all right. Or
a lot of people say manifest I want to manifest. Yes,
Manifesting is about the energy in the field. The right
sacrenosity and serendipity. So when you follow the inner core
things that you say, I'm not comfortable going down that
road or whatever, and then you see why afterwards. That's
building your knowledge, your understanding of the power that you
have inside. Right, so we all have it. So once
we go and we learn all this stuff, then things
start to happen.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Your awakening gets stronger and stronger, and the right people
come into your environment, comes into help you. That's why
we talked before we started about you know, the fear
of lack of and really just standing. You're going to
be okay. You're not alone. You're going to be okay,
and this is how it's supposed to be. But it's
also learning skills for yourself, learning that you can see
back before and then also have confidence. Now okay, I'm
gonna be okay. I really feel it the cut learning
to feel that power withinside you. So and you can
ask he put it out there into the field, please
bring somebody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Care So.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I know it's hard.
Speaker 1: Well, no, it's it's not. I see things. My father
used to always jokingly say to me, the sun always
signs where you walk, Willie, the sun always shines where
you walk. And I have to say, Sheila, Yes, I've
never I mean I have. I've kind of had a
charmed wife, you know, and and things have always worked out.
But I've had different things happen over the years. I
was married and my wife's uncle came to visit and
he brought his girlfriend at the time, and she was
a healer or I don't. I don't really know because
I'm very naive. And she said to me when she
was doing something, She's like, you have a lot of energy.
You could be a healer. You're a healer. You're you're
a healer. And I was like, She's like, but I
You've got like it's it's there, it's there. And I've
been told by other people you have you have great
energy of it. I don't. I don't. I never knew.
I don't know what that is. But I've never at
my core, my true self is a very loving, fun,
playful person. That's who I am. I know that at
my core, at my at my absolute core. But Oliver,
in my I've had anger issues. I've had different things.
And I'll ask you this because you talked about your
brother and and anger, and anger can be something that
is uh, the word that just popped in my head
is repulsive in a way right to other people, it
can be very scary and and and people absorb it differently. Again,
how you're programmed, right, I mean.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, And so you know, we did. I did
say about my classes. The first and second class kind
of explains those energy fields of anger, shame, resentment, fear,
all guilt, you know, and that's what understanding how the body,
you know, the scientific part about it. And a lot
of people don't want to believe that, but it is science,
the energy field of us.
Speaker 1: Yes, so now you kind of tick me off, my pet,
but I'm sorry, no, no, no, this is great. I would
say that you're going up the emotional scale, that anger
is better than despair. Yes, okay, that's sort of what
I'm saying. So when I say for people reach for
the better, sometimes anger is the better feeling. Thought, as
much as that sounds counterintuitive, I think that's sort of
the truth. What you do with it, well, exactly, So
here's my question. We there are are medicines and things
that people take, and I have come to believe that
in certain ways it gives you a moment to almost
step outside yourself, just that beat you need to go
instead of the knee jerk reaction. Let's say something really
fires you up and you just turn around and go
kaboom into a wall. Silly, but okay? And what does
that do for everybody else around there? Scares the shit
out of them? What is this unhinged? But if sometimes
and I don't know if, because I go, we're just
pumps and pipes inside our potty, right right? I mean,
how many times have we heard about the person they
they went in and I was ninety percent clogged, They
put in stints. It's like you, it's like your bathroom sake.
So we're pumps and pipes and that sometimes we have
set them builds up. Okay, But with the anger, does
it give you a chance and the energy to sort
of step back? And it should it be seen as
a tool and not so much as a dependency. I
don't I don't know if I'm saying it clearly, But
sometimes we hear things like well, I don't want to
be dependent on something. I don't want to be on
a medicine. But I don't want to be this. I
don't want to be that it's a weakness, it's this
And my thinking is is it a tool to give
you the clarity of the moment and see that I
don't need to do this. It gives you just a
chance to step outside yourself that maybe you've been so
programmed that everything is knee jerk reader, that this is
almost a gift in a way. But I don't I
don't know if I'm sounding nutty. No, no, oh, I'm
sure I'm sounding nutty.
Speaker 2: But we're talking about two different things. So we're talking
about science. Yes, we're talking about chemicals to less you
feel better, but also you're talking about the energy field
of the kids, all right, and how you you are
raising him. You're raising him right by the way, all right,
because you're picking up you know, using the tools that
you have, and a lot of people don't have those tools,
you know, the parents that we had before or whatever.
So that kind of shows the energy that's changing here.
We we have help now, all right. We also have science.
We have modern science, and then we have alternative science, holistic,
which also has helped. So when we talk about being anger,
all right, and how do you change that? When I
said before about being heart math right. Heart math is
about making the connection of stress and trauma and building
resilience against that stress or that anger or that fear.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So a lot of times in the mental health issue,
mental health practice, you know, they do many many different things.
They do also emdr eye movement, desensilitation and reprogramming, so
that's very good, and they usually use that for post
traumatic stress or people that have fear anger, fear, and
to release that. A lot of that time that stuff
is stuck in the pituitary clan. So when when we
go through all this stuff of evolving in our life issues,
it does chemical stuff to our bodies, right, and sometimes
it changes the chemistry of the brain. So that's why
sometimes people need to have medicine to change that, which
is great, yes, but there's sometimes it is more of
the emotional layer, meaning the energy layer. That's what's happening
in the life situation. Right, programming, how you relate to people,
you know, your belief system and so you know, doctors
sometimes friends have actually invited people to come to me.
And heart math is about changing the heart variability rate
of your frequency of your body of fixing the blood pressure, okay,
and how when you feel calm and relax But what
it's doing is opening up to your consciousness field of
the power that you have inside. So it uses the
energy of the heart and the mind, thinking of just
being in the moment all right, and think of things
that bring you love and joy and appreciation. Right at
the same time, you just slow down your breathing and
you into relaxed mode and you think about things that
make you happy. So the heart and the brain connection
is very, very powerful. And there's many people that you
know do yoga and all the other stuff they talk
for you to do it doesn't cost you anything, but
it's learning to do that and understanding that there it
is out there and there is help out there. And
that's what I like about the energy work that I
teach and I do. It's all about heart center. It's
about going withinside the love inside yourself, but also allowing
your DNA, your body to heal itself. But you need
to be taught it, so a lot of people aren't
aware of it. All they're aware of of is seeing
the chemicals, and this is the way you have to
do because they don't want to know that there's other ways.
Is money profit, you know, all that other stuff. But
what I say it said is that things are changing.
It is coming out and we're seeing it play out,
and there's more coming out, and it's all good. It
is going to change, the world is going to change,
but it's for the good, and it's the way you
look at it. And a lot of people are in
We talk about the dimensions, the three D and the
five D, and we're actually in the four D right
now for us talking about this. The people that become
aware or enlightened that they know that there's more to
us than our meat suits and what's in it. We
are spiritual beings, all right, and we do have the ability.
Speaker 1: I've had people tell me that this is two percent
percent of what you are three percent and isn't it
amazing that they can get two percent of it? So
it's so weird, Chill, It's weird, and I I'm so like,
that's why I want to do this. I feel like
the Bill Lightenman stuff that I want to make it
as separate podcasts and I'm trying to figure out how
to do this. I'm with you all the way, but
I feel like I have to do this, like I
have to do this. I don't know why I have
to do this as.
Speaker 2: Part of your passion and your mission, what you're here
to do. It's the same with my life. It's the
same thing when I look back and I have no
doubt this is what I'm supposed to do. But it's
also my evolution that I've seen my path grow to
understand it, all right, And I mean we can get
a whole discussion about that, but it is. It is enlightenment.
It's the frequency. And three D is the way they've
always done, you know, history and anger and wars and
stuff like that. And the five D is a different dimension.
So that's what you're going to hear about the new dimension, right,
And it's a higher frequency, and that is where your spirit,
your families go. All they do is just change dimension.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that, and I think for people that
I always go back to radio. You can't hear what's
on ninety two five when you're listening to ninety six
five exactly right, But you can raise your vibration and
sometimes you what happens is you could be around people
on a lower vibration you just don't even see them,
You don't even interact with them. It just doesn't happen,
and I go, I know this sounds very, very strange,
but I feel like Sheila that now I hear things
in music, I hear words, I hear the things I go.
They've been trying to tell us this, the enlightened people
have been trying to tell us this forever.
Speaker 2: This is your DNA, this is the frequency of your chromosomes.
We talked about it before, is that science shows that
we have twenty three chromosomes, human chromosomes. And they've known
about the physical and the emotional part by different testinges,
whether you're introvert extrovert, how you relate to things, whatever.
But there's more to it. And since twenty twelve in
the science world is showed and approved heart math showed
when we had the twin towers come down, and that
we were all together, we were all one after it
hit because we were all in that frequency of compassion. Right,
that kind of proved it that we are magnetic machines
and our frequency is out there all right. But the
twenty fourth is, you know, our start connection, the galactic connection.
We've always known that we came from someplace else, but
there is a lot of help out there in the
twenty fourth is what is awakened. So when you were
talking about radio signals, when I teach people that are
in this field mediumship or spirituality or whatever, I you know,
they come to me and nothing's working. Is because they're
trying to tap into the old frequency, right, and since
twenty twelve. And there's a reason why. It has to
do with the planets and alignment and the actual magnetic
field of the Earth when it shifted where it changed
a magnetic grid, right, and how we perceive things and
how we think feel things, and so it's a different frequency.
So understanding to tap into that twenty fourth and that's
your intuition, that's your knowing. I don't know why I
know this, but I know this that's used to scare
the heck out of me is that I knew when
my mother in law was going to die. It was
the same day that my sister was killed three years before.
I mean, this is when I first got sober. All
this stuff was coming to me. I said, how the
hell do I know this stuff? But it was part
of my awakening that I knew. And when I chair,
if I do a meeting or whatever online or whatever,
I share this spiritual part about it, and it's about
the power that we have inside. We all have it.
I can explain it now scientifically, I couldn't back then,
back thirty one years ago when I got sober for
alcoholism and I started back in nineteen eighty five, or
there's something going on here and I have to start
working on myself when I started my recovery journey. But
instead of recovery, you know, being a recovery metaphysician, people
always thinks it's addictions, and it can be because I
do have that background, But it's about getting stuck with
why do I keep doing and feeling the same way?
And all of a sudden, I feel more joy when
I do this, but I don't dare because I know,
feel guilty or whatever. So think about that, think about
you know how you're feeling, why are you feeling that?
And then also do what you don't want to do,
and do what you don't want to do, meaning don't
do something that you don't really like, right all right,
and do something that you like, and then you're going
to start seeing, oh, I get it, I feel more happier. Well,
I'm going to make that choice to do this and
feel happier that's where you have the power. You have
the power to go with inside and waking up and
know that you're not alone.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's I find it fascinating and
I believe all of it. And I do think that
we've been taught wrong, and I don't you know, I don't.
Speaker 2: Well, we think about not being taught wrong because that's
where we were. That's how it evolves science.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I was. I was trained to be a nurse midwife,
you know, and we did things a lot different than
sixteen hundreds seventeen hundreds, when when the modern medicine started
coming to play and make it more convenient for you know,
doctors to lay down instead of birth naturally or in
the water. Right, all right, So there's there's a lot
of evolvement. The same with penicillin. We didn't know about penicillin.
So think of all the stuff that we had to
go through, and it's not bad. It is part of
the evolution understanding it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with all that, and I think we're
always sort of evolving. It's sort of my problem with
things like the cancel culture, which seems to have gone
away a little bit. But my problem with that was okay.
If it's not so egregious, it's not physical assault, why
aren't we saying this is no longer acceptable acceptable, do
better and give a person a chance to do better
and evolve. We are right, and I think I do
think that, but I think in the beginning there was resistances. No,
you're wrong, you're dead wrong.
Speaker 2: Well, it's all resistance because people aren't educated or understand it.
But once you go back, go inside. It's always about
going inside. Yeah, you know, what are you feeling? You know?
That's not the only thing to do, you know, it
is it is think about that, you know, And it's
the same. You know, women are you know, more intuitive
and all that men are too. It's just that they're
taught not to tap into it, right, and you can.
And that's where many people.
Speaker 1: Are, well right they are and that I want to
say this and I don't know why. I don't really
know why, but I don't people who were right now
it's all it's the holidays, right, and it's all around
the birth of Jesus if you're a Christian, and and
uh and even Hankikah with you know, the jewsh which
they don't believe that he's the son of God. But
I would say that I don't ever want somebody to
think that you look down upon a religion or whatever.
I am love. Yeah, I have no problem with that.
I just think that sometimes there's a restrictor plate that
doesn't need to be there. Does that make sense. It's
like we're trying to put a governor on the motor
of life and tell you have to do this, and
you can. I don't think that there's a hell. Do
I think that there's evil? Yeah, I mean, there's a
very simple philosophy that would say there is no evil.
It's just a privation of good. It's a very simple
philosophical But I'm trying to remember who that was. It
might have been Saint Thomas Aquinas. But that was just
the way things were. And I think that's more true
than we believe, because even the people that we see
shunned in society and stuff or I'll tell you this,
here we go.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: I know I've told you, and I've been very open
on the podcast that I've been substitute teaching, right, and
sometimes I will substitute in what's called a Kotak class,
and so you've got kids there that just need a
little more prompting or whatever. And I can see that
some of those kids were the ones that would be
the wild troublemakers. And I saw this girl and I
went over and she sat alone by herself in the back,
and I could tell that there was something not wrong,
I know, and that's not the term, but that she
could probably cause some trouble according to the standards of
the school exactly. Yeah. So I went back there and
I worked with her on this math and we went
through and she was laughing at me because I had
to look some things up to remember certain formulas and things.
But we went through and got it, and then I
went back in the class again. She said hey. And
then one day I'm down in the main office, She's like, hey,
you helped me with that study for that quiz and
I did really well, thanks so much, and blah blah blah.
And then one day I'm talking to the person who's
the head of subs and she said, you know, you
really make a great connection with these kids. It's very
well noticed. And she springs up that girl specifically, and
she goes, man, she was a wild one last year
with blah, blah blah blah, And I could see it,
but I knew underneath it's not she's not She's not
a wild one. She's she's a beautiful soul or whatever.
I don't know, but I could, I just could tell.
And I always say that those are my people because
I was a wild one. I mean, I do dumb
things like climb to tell you this, and then you're
going to.
Speaker 2: Well, those are they called labels?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That yes, but she wasn't. But there's a lot of
stuff going on, you know, in the background why she
acts the way she does, whether it's bullying, yes, whether
it's whether not looked at the same, whether it's it's
usually home life. You know what's happening to the child.
That's why I say, once you understand energy work, you
can pick up on different things that are going on
in the person's life and then you can help them
and be be that hero.
Speaker 1: All right, I didn't even think of anything. All I'm saying,
I really believe you meet people where they are, meet
people where they are. Not just kids, but everybody, meet
them where they are. And my father used to say,
and I thought it was a wonderful saying. And I
wish you would really put it into practice with us
when we were kids. But he would say, you never
know how somebody's day began. And he taught in the
inner city of Poughkeepsie where some mornings there was a
raid in the house at three am and a dad
was dragged out in handcuffs for selling drugs exactly, And
he said, you just never know how somebody's day began.
And so that was more his way of just kind of, hey, everybody,
come and I'm like, why can't you fucking do that
with us. You're always yelling at me, right, But that
and I think that that's kind of how I think
of that often. I think that I don't know where
somebody's coming from, but I don't need to meet them
on that frequency exactly, And I don't but I don't
need to be mean to them. I don't need to
be anything. I can just be. I can just I
don't need to do anything. And those are all the
things that I'm realizing, and I believe that it's very true.
Speaker 2: Oh it's very true, very very true. And a lot
of people are becoming awakened to understand that you know
labels and the way you know you've been taught to
relate to somebody or somebody trying to influence you not
to do something.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, that's a big.
Speaker 2: One and it's called manipulation.
Speaker 1: Well and okay, so since you hit on that in particular.
Speaker 2: We could talk about that or another.
Speaker 1: We can, but but I'll just and we'll rap with
this one. Okay. But I think like that's your mom, right,
your mom. But it's always coming. And I will say
this all the time to people whoever just giving you advice,
they're giving it to you from a place of love.
Whether you believe that or not, it may come with
with you know, I would hear things like you need
to have your head examined from a parent. I would
hear that, okay, but I would think that now when
I think about that, that was their fear for what
I was going to do and what was going to happen,
And it was honestly coming from a place.
Speaker 2: Of love exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's why I often think, go forth and tell
no one. If you have an idea, go forth and
do it, because other people are going to tell you
from their perspective on you. And believe me, from a
place of love, You're gonna hear things like good fucking
luck with that one man. Right. But and then if
you start to think about that, and I always go
back to the healing of Jesus, go forth and tell
no one, because the doubts seeks in. And you know,
I always I would love to do a stand up
routine about that where you guy comes back with his
ear on and give it two weeks, Bob, that fuck
you're gonna be you know what I'm saying, Like, but
that's the doubt, and I think that was the message
in there is you really have all the power. You've
got it, you just need to step into it, as
the song says. And the wisdom within, yes, it's always
been here, but we've been looking for it on the
outside because that's where we told. We're told where it was,
and it's not. It's in here and you can figure
it out.
Speaker 2: So my title as galactic Grandmother is about the wisdom
I have inside like a grandmother. Yeah, the wisdom of
given the wisdom and it is galactic, yes, because I
know it, and I'm here on purpose at this time
to help humanity the way that is.
Speaker 1: And people can go get help from you just through
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Speaker 2: Right, and also at this time I have a great
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Speaker 1: That's really, that's wonderful. I would also tell people that
sometimes you'll be called selfish for doing things like this,
but you can't can't be good for anybody else if
you're not good yourself, you can't bring it forth.
Speaker 2: Yes, self worth we are and we are so worth it.
And if you can't, it's always begins with you first.
Anybody in your life, it begins with you first, heal
yourself or understand the way you think and feel, and
then put the love out. It's always about the love.
Speaker 1: It is about the love.
Speaker 2: Love for yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, love yourself because you're worth it.
Speaker 2: You're worth it.
Speaker 1: That's where I say again, and I feel like I
am repeating myself, but I just want to throw it
out there. The unconditional love, which I think humans are
almost incapable because there's always going to be that thing.
If I just did this, I would love you more.
Speaker 2: But that's why we're humans right right now.
Speaker 1: But the universe loves you unconditionally and whatever you believe.
It will support If you believe that you're broken, you will,
it'll support that. If you believe that you are something else,
it'll support that. Yeah. But you've gotta and you can
change that. You can change all that because all you
have to do, Yeah, you just have to step into
the power as the as the song says. Right here, Sheila,
it's always fun when you're in. I feel so much better, Yeah,
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