Speaker 1: This is WWE superstar Drew McIntyre and you're listening to
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Speaker 4: It is Friday, July eleventh, twenty twenty five. We're gonna
Speaker 4: go through the preview and predictions show here for Saturday
Speaker 4: Night Main Event and for Evolution. I'm gonna try to
Speaker 4: get to the mailbag on the back end of the show.
Speaker 4: I'm very limited on time today. I'm gonna be traveling
Speaker 4: back home tonight, so I'm trying to squeeze in a
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Speaker 4: mailbag or if we cut short, I'll add it to
Speaker 4: the review show that we do for Saturday Night Main
Speaker 4: Event and Evolution. So keep that in mind. I want
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Speaker 4: Now we're gonna jump right into the card again. This
Speaker 4: is gonna be probably be pretty abbreviated starting with Saturday
Speaker 4: Night's main event, Solo so CoA versus Jimmy Usso for
Speaker 4: the United States Championship. This one's a no brainer. There's
Speaker 4: just really no chance that Solo Socoa loses here. They
Speaker 4: took the belt or gave the belt to Socoa over
Speaker 4: the last month or two, right, so they're not gonna
Speaker 4: have him drop it to Jimmy Usso, a guy that
Speaker 4: has the most mediocre momentum of anybody on the roster
Speaker 4: right now, a guy that is still trying to find
Speaker 4: his own way, trying to find his own voice. Jimmy
Speaker 4: Uso has certainly not found it like his counterpart yet
Speaker 4: his brother. So I think that Solos the code retains.
Speaker 4: It could be because of jac Matteo, Talatanga Tamatanga, Tongaala,
Speaker 4: one of the guys that starts with the T. Is
Speaker 4: really why Jimmy Uso is going to lose this match,
Speaker 4: and I expect a solid match, one that really wouldn't
Speaker 4: be anything better than what you'd see on a Friday
Speaker 4: night SmackDown main event.
Speaker 3: I think that's.
Speaker 4: Probably what we're going to be seeing here, so yeah,
Speaker 4: looking forward to it, but this outcome is fairly fairly predictable.
Speaker 4: Now Randy Orton and Drew McIntyre, this matchup interests me
Speaker 4: from the perspective of who needs the momentum more and
Speaker 4: what is this for? Because we have Drew McIntyre coming
Speaker 4: off of a loss, a big loss of several months
Speaker 4: ago before he took his leave and healed himself up,
Speaker 4: and we have Randy Orton. Also, who is Randy Orton?
Speaker 4: I mean, Randy Orton is a guy that nearly won
Speaker 4: the WWE Championship from John Cena six weeks ago, and
Speaker 4: Randy Orton could be positioned to be back in that
Speaker 4: scene again after Summer Slam. So when I look at
Speaker 4: this though, who needs it more? The answer is pretty clear.
Speaker 4: The answer is Drew McIntyre. Drew McIntyre needs this match
Speaker 4: more than Randy Orton because Drew McIntyre, to me, has
Speaker 4: been behind the scenes since three months before Russell Mania.
Speaker 4: Drew McIntyre needs to get himself going in what better
Speaker 4: way to get himself going than to beat Randy Orton.
Speaker 4: I don't care if it's by hook crook interference, I'd
Speaker 4: prefer it to be straight up. But my guess is
Speaker 4: that Randy Orton is going to lose here to Drew McIntyre,
Speaker 4: and it could be by happenstance, it could be by
Speaker 4: straight up. I really again, I hope it is, but
Speaker 4: I think that Randy Orton takes the l Drew McIntyre
Speaker 4: needs this win more than Randy Orton does. And my
Speaker 4: hope is though, that if they give Drew this victory,
Speaker 4: that they actually do something with it, that it's actually
Speaker 4: Drew McIntyre doing something, giving Drew something solid to actually
Speaker 4: do something after this victory. Now what does that mean, Well,
Speaker 4: hopefully inserting him into the title picture after SummerSlam, because
Speaker 4: we know Cody and John Cena are destined for a
Speaker 4: title match at SummerSlam, with Cody Wrohats winning King of
Speaker 4: the Rings. So I think Drew being inserted for whoever
Speaker 4: wins that after would be the right call. And by
Speaker 4: the way, I know I and I apologize for the humming.
Speaker 4: In the background, there's somebody mowing the lawn where I'm at, Okay,
Speaker 4: so I'm trying to over talk over that, but I
Speaker 4: promise I'll be back in the studio where it's nice
Speaker 4: and quiet in a couple of days. So I just
Speaker 4: think that Drew is due a title run. And I
Speaker 4: will say though that I wish John Cena's final opponent
Speaker 4: could be Edge. I want to totally off topic, I know,
Speaker 4: but Edge would be the perfect opponent for John Cena
Speaker 4: in his final match in December. Unlikely because Adam Copeland
Speaker 4: is under contract with AW through twenty twenty six from
Speaker 4: what I understand through October of twenty twenty six, so
Speaker 4: it doesn't look like the stars are going to align
Speaker 4: for Edge and John Cena to lock up, which is
Speaker 4: really disappointing given the storied history between Edge and John Cena,
Speaker 4: the promos that those two could cut, it'd be it'd
Speaker 4: be awesome. But if Drew is the one to eventually
Speaker 4: take the belt off of John Cena, I think nobody
Speaker 4: would complain about that. In fact, I would argue Drew
Speaker 4: is one of the top, if not the top contender
Speaker 4: for that to happen, because Drew has yet to really
Speaker 4: hold a championship since changing his persona what over a
Speaker 4: year ago and becoming his own version of a heel
Speaker 4: that we haven't seen where he just tells the truth.
Speaker 4: He's actually telling the truth. He's just going after the
Speaker 4: guys that we like, or the guys that the fans
Speaker 4: generally like. I shouldn't say me or we. But so
Speaker 4: let's continue on here Seth Rollins in La Knight. This
Speaker 4: match interests me because La Knight has been really shot
Speaker 4: to the top here in the last several weeks, meaning
Speaker 4: he's been in the main event seen consistently now for
Speaker 4: I mean better part of a month, showing up on Raw,
Speaker 4: getting the better of Seth Rollins, getting good crowd reactions.
Speaker 4: Is this potentially a setup for La Knight to win
Speaker 4: the World Championship. There's a case to be made for
Speaker 4: it because we have yet to see La Knight consistently
Speaker 4: in a world title picture of the last we saw
Speaker 4: was him with Roman Reigns when Roman was on his
Speaker 4: four year run, and I think that having him take
Speaker 4: the belt off of you know, off of Gunther is possible.
Speaker 4: But right now he's targeting Seth. We know Seth is
Speaker 4: eventually going to capture the world title, so it doesn't
Speaker 4: look like they're setting up for an La Night title victory.
Speaker 4: But the idea that he's in the main event consistently,
Speaker 4: is a good thing if you're an l A.
Speaker 3: Knight fan.
Speaker 4: Now, who wins this, well, I think Seth Rollins probably
Speaker 4: wins this. He's got the money in the bank, briefcase,
Speaker 4: he's got a lot of momentum.
Speaker 1: L A.
Speaker 4: Knight got the better of Seth on the night before
Speaker 4: or the week before the pl which rule of thumb,
Speaker 4: although not a you know, hard and fast rule, one
Speaker 4: that's never broken, of course, is that we have the
Speaker 4: person who gets the advantage lose at the event, you know,
Speaker 4: the week before. So to me, it's La Knight who
Speaker 4: loses this. Seth Rollins continues his momentum, and you know,
Speaker 4: La Knight maybe sticks around the title picture or maybe
Speaker 4: sticks around the upper mid card. But I don't think
Speaker 4: this is right now. A LA Knight main event world
Speaker 4: title I should say, main event title push for La Knight.
Speaker 4: I think this is right now. A way to see
Speaker 4: how the crowd reacts to a Seth Rollins La Knight matchup.
Speaker 4: How much did they get behind LA Knight? Is something
Speaker 4: worth pursuing down the line. With Lla Knight as world champion.
Speaker 4: Maybe this is one of those.
Speaker 3: One of those tests.
Speaker 4: But the crowds continue to support La Knight, no doubt
Speaker 4: about it. All Right, Gunther versus Bill Goldberg for the
Speaker 4: World Heavyweight Championship. I think this one is going to
Speaker 4: be longer than we expect. And I've said that before
Speaker 4: and I'll say it again. This one is going to
Speaker 4: be longer than three minutes because Gunther has said it's
Speaker 4: going to be because he's going to punish Goldberg. So
Speaker 4: this is not going to be your three minutes special.
Speaker 4: Even on on either end. It's not gonna be Goldberg
Speaker 4: beating gun Thro in three minutes. It's not gonna be
Speaker 4: gun Through being Goldberg in three minutes. They're gonna try
Speaker 4: to string this out as much as they can. Goldberg
Speaker 4: is in his hometown, He's in front of his family.
Speaker 4: Guntherer is going to absolutely punish Goldberg in front of
Speaker 4: his family, get heat from the crowd. Crowd should get
Speaker 4: behind Goldberg, I would think in his retirement match here,
Speaker 4: and ultimately it's probably gonna be ten twelve minutes with
Speaker 4: gun Ther doing a lot of the work, a much
Speaker 4: slower paced match from what we're used to. I mean,
Speaker 4: this is gonna be a match in slow motion with
Speaker 4: an explosion of power a spear and then a kickout,
Speaker 4: and then guntherer hitting a power bomb and a kickout,
Speaker 4: and then you know, five minutes of rear you know,
Speaker 4: rear naked chokes and holds, and you know, a kick
Speaker 4: in a pause, and like it's gonna be one of
Speaker 4: those slower pace matches. And I think we're all kind
Speaker 4: of understand that at this point, but ultimately Gunther wins.
Speaker 4: There is no scenario, none in which it makes sense
Speaker 4: for any reason for Goldberg to win the world title.
Speaker 3: None.
Speaker 4: There is nothing you could tell me. There is no
Speaker 4: scenario though it make sense. I don't care if it's
Speaker 4: Goldberg with his family celebrating the title and then relinquishing it.
Speaker 4: That is to me damaging to Gunther. Why does Goldberg
Speaker 4: get a world title shot every single time he comes back?
Speaker 4: As another question I am going to I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: hammer Goldberg here for his pace, for his pace of
Speaker 4: the match, for his inability to have anything other than
Speaker 4: two moves. Because this is Goldberg's final match. It's his
Speaker 4: final match. We should just enjoy it. We really should,
Speaker 4: because this is the last time we will ever see
Speaker 4: Goldberg competing inside of a ring, and we should appreciate that.
Speaker 3: We really should because.
Speaker 4: It's it ten minutes and then that's it for the
Speaker 4: rest of our lives. So yeah, Gunther wins. Just nothing
Speaker 4: else about this should have no other scenario should play
Speaker 4: out here.
Speaker 3: Let's not fool around.
Speaker 4: So let's see that was the evolution, or rather the
Speaker 4: Saturday Night main event. We now have evolution here. Let's
Speaker 4: go through the card. So what's happening here? Well, the
Speaker 4: evolution card. Eosky versus Rea Ripley. Let's just get into it.
Speaker 4: I expect a lot out of this match, a lot.
Speaker 4: I expect this match to be a blast. I expect
Speaker 4: this match to be brutal, brutal in the way that
Speaker 4: it's physical, not with weapons, very much physical. Both women
Speaker 4: are excellent inside the ring. They have very stiff particularly
Speaker 4: Rea Ripley, a very stiff, stiff style, and I like
Speaker 4: that Eo Ski is truly a magician inside the ring.
Speaker 4: I expect this to be fifteen sixteen minutes with a
Speaker 4: lot of fun near falls. Probably this is awesome chance
Speaker 4: going on Eo Ski. This is not easy, but I
Speaker 4: think she retains. Although rear Ripley winning here wouldn't be
Speaker 4: the craziest thing, but Eo Ski has got a lot
Speaker 4: of momentum.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to cut her short.
Speaker 4: I think there's more of a case to be made
Speaker 4: for Eo Sky to win this, to continue her assent.
Speaker 4: Then to give the belt to Rhea, that's not gonna
Speaker 4: do much for her because everybody kind of considers Rie
Speaker 4: Ripley a women's champion, even if she doesn't have a
Speaker 4: title around her waist. So this is gonna be a
Speaker 4: fun match. I'm really really looking forward to this one,
Speaker 4: all right. We then have Becky Lynch versus Bailey versus
Speaker 4: the Lyra for the Women's Intercontinental Championship another I expect
Speaker 4: a lot out of this, and it's a triple threat,
Speaker 4: which does add an element of champion doesn't need to
Speaker 4: get pinned to lose. We know that whole narrative that
Speaker 4: gets pushed every single time is a triple threat. I
Speaker 4: think Bailey, or rather Becky Lynch retains Lyra just dropped it.
Speaker 4: Bailey doesn't seem to be in a position to hold it.
Speaker 4: Becky Lynch has only held it for like a month
Speaker 4: or so. There's no need to have Becky Lynch in
Speaker 4: for any reason.
Speaker 3: Reason.
Speaker 4: Drop this. This is a this kind of be playing
Speaker 4: hot potato here. I don't need it. Becky Lynch is
Speaker 4: a obviously top tier performer. You could have somebody coming
Speaker 4: out here that we're not expecting to join Becky Lynch
Speaker 4: in kind of a heal maneuver here to have her
Speaker 4: start some kind of group. But Becky Lynch retains, probably
Speaker 4: off of night wing on Bailey or Bailey hitting Lyra
Speaker 4: with Bailey to belly or you know, Rosebud and then
Speaker 4: Becky Lynch capitalizes on that and wins the match. But ultimately, yes,
Speaker 4: Becky Lynch should retain this This matchup Tippitty Stratton and
Speaker 4: trist Stratus for the Women's Championship. I'm not super excited
Speaker 4: about this, I have to say. I mean, I'm good
Speaker 4: if I never see trist compete again. And I don't
Speaker 4: mean that disrespectfully, but I've accepted that we're never gonna
Speaker 4: see her again.
Speaker 3: And she keeps popping up. Now. I know she's a.
Speaker 4: Legend in the women's division in women's wrestling.
Speaker 3: She can still go.
Speaker 4: She had her best match with Becky Lynch in their
Speaker 4: series of forty eight matches two years ago. But Tris
Speaker 4: Stratus and Tiffany Stratton I don't actually expect a ton
Speaker 4: of a ton of holy s chance out of this.
Speaker 4: This is gonna be probably an eight to ten minute
Speaker 4: match with Tiffany Stratton retaining. So I think three retentions
Speaker 4: so far, with Ria Ripley being the one that is
Speaker 4: the most likely so far to win out of any
Speaker 4: title change that's possible out of these three I've just
Speaker 4: talked about. So Tiffany Stratton retains Women's Championship here, No
Speaker 4: no need to have trist Stratus win. She's a name
Speaker 4: on the card that they're trying to use to bolster
Speaker 4: the evolution event. So all right, fatal four way for
Speaker 4: the women's tag team Championship. We're Keel Rodriguez and Rock
Speaker 4: San Perez versus Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss versus Oscar
Speaker 4: and Kyrie Saying versus Sol Ruka and Zaria.
Speaker 3: All Right, this one, I can.
Speaker 4: See the title change, and the reason is these titles
Speaker 4: don't matter. I could absolutely see and Kyrie is sane winning.
Speaker 4: In fact, That's what I'm going with. They just reunited
Speaker 4: this week. The Kabuki Warriors are an excellent tag team.
Speaker 4: They are much better together than separate at this point
Speaker 4: and Charlotte and Alexa.
Speaker 3: They're not really a tag team.
Speaker 4: There are two individuals that were put together, Raquel and Roxanne.
Speaker 4: You can make a case they're actually a tag team,
Speaker 4: but right now them dropping the belts would cause tension
Speaker 4: inside the Judgment day even more with Roxanne maybe being
Speaker 4: the reason that Rakala loses or vice versa. That leads
Speaker 4: to more tension, which leads to a potential Live Morgan return.
Speaker 4: And what does Live do when she comes back and
Speaker 4: sees that Roxanne has taken her place and they lost
Speaker 4: the belts because Live wasn't there. I mean, there's a
Speaker 4: lot you can do. There's a lot you can do,
Speaker 4: so to me, that's the only one that is really
Speaker 4: plausible here. If you're going to drop the belts, and
Speaker 4: that's Oscar and Kyrie, sol Ruka and Zaria.
Speaker 3: No, I mean just no.
Speaker 4: They're a newer team. The Triple A acquisition has certainly
Speaker 4: provided new talent, but no, Alexa and Kyrie win the
Speaker 4: tag team titles. Alright, I'm sorry, Osca and Kyrie win
Speaker 4: the tag team titles. All right, a battle we're all
Speaker 4: for the women's title. I mean this one is pretty easy.
Speaker 4: I think that Nicki Bella is the one to take this.
Speaker 4: Nikki Bella is and was scheduled before Live Morgan's injury
Speaker 4: to have a championship match. So I don't think that
Speaker 4: they're gonna position Nicki Bella to win a championship, but
Speaker 4: perhaps they're gonna make good on her lost opportunity because
Speaker 4: of an unfortunate injury with Live Morgan to have her
Speaker 4: to have Live or I'm sorry to have Nikki Bella
Speaker 4: get an opportunity at the championship by winning this Battle Royal.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's not much else to say.
Speaker 4: Nobody's really excited about this, and I don't even know
Speaker 4: does anybody know when the title match is going to
Speaker 4: take place for whoever wins this. I don't know if
Speaker 4: that was ever determined. Not Summer Slam, I know that,
Speaker 4: but probably on a SmackDown or the next ple after
Speaker 4: Summer Slam. I'm not sure, all right, Jade Cargil and
Speaker 4: Naomi in a no holds barred match. What I will
Speaker 4: say for Jade, it's probably the best for her that
Speaker 4: this is a no holds barred match because it's able
Speaker 4: to mitigate some of her weaknesses, hide some of her
Speaker 4: weaknesses because you're gonna have Jade in a position to
Speaker 4: use weapons and tables, hopefully it's a slim Gym sponsored table,
Speaker 4: and use those in place of actual, you know, having
Speaker 4: a match. While Jade is certainly capable of having a
Speaker 4: match with Naomi, she showed it to WrestleMania. This adds
Speaker 4: a new flavor and again it is helpful for Jade
Speaker 4: to win now or to hide which she's not good at,
Speaker 4: which is just having a lengthy match. So who wins this?
Speaker 4: I hope Naomi, but I think Jade is gonna win.
Speaker 4: Why because Jade is positioned to have a championship match
Speaker 4: at SummerSlam. So you can have somebody who's just in
Speaker 4: a few weeks time going to have match at SummerSlam
Speaker 4: lose the match just a few weeks before to somebody
Speaker 4: that's not a contender. So I want Naomi she to win.
Speaker 4: I wish she would, but based on booking forward, you
Speaker 4: want Jade to look as strong as possible and have
Speaker 4: her win. However, the caveat beyond that logic is does
Speaker 4: the crowd start to fully reject her they have not
Speaker 4: been endearing them, or she hasn't been endearing herself to
Speaker 4: the audience. Very well at all lately, and the crowd
Speaker 4: is seemingly turning a little bit sour on Jade. Does
Speaker 4: that trend continue if they have her win this match?
Speaker 4: It's not going to help things because people are relating
Speaker 4: to Naomi. They respect Naomi in a way that they
Speaker 4: don't respect Jade yet. So I think Jade is in
Speaker 4: trouble here if she wins the match. From a crowd perspective,
Speaker 4: this is just really could be the start of a
Speaker 4: heel turn for Jade inadvertently, but maybe the crowd, maybe
Speaker 4: the crowd embraces her. And I'm completely wrong, but I
Speaker 4: think Jade Cargill wins this simply because that we want
Speaker 4: her to, not that the crowd wants her to, but
Speaker 4: because of the logic of the fact that she's going
Speaker 4: to have a championship match in just a few weeks
Speaker 4: time at SummerSlam because she won Queen of the Ring.
Speaker 4: All right, final match, boy, there are what seven matches
Speaker 4: on this card? Leads you to believe this is not
Speaker 4: going to be a long pl e or rather a
Speaker 4: long match ple. These matches are going to go fairly quick.
Speaker 1: J C.
Speaker 4: Jane versus Jordan Grace n XT Women's Championship. I think
Speaker 4: Jordan Grace wins the win NXT Women's Championship. They've been
Speaker 4: low key trying to push her. Every time they make
Speaker 4: a you know, she comes out, the crowd reacts to her.
Speaker 4: I think Jordan Grace is poised to win the NXT
Speaker 4: Women's Championship from j C.
Speaker 3: Jane.
Speaker 4: And that's just how I feel. I mean, outside of
Speaker 4: that logic, I don't have another strong reason other than
Speaker 4: just the crowd has seemingly embraced her.
Speaker 3: She's a veteran of the business.
Speaker 4: She may be somewhat new to the w WE landscape,
Speaker 4: but wrestling fans are smart. They followed her work. They
Speaker 4: know who she is. She looks like a champion, she treats,
Speaker 4: she walks like a champion, she positions herself like a champion.
Speaker 3: I think this.
Speaker 4: Would be a nice, a nice way, especially on a
Speaker 4: pl to anoint Jordan Grace as the NXT Women's Champion.
Speaker 4: So to recap, we have and this is the tough one.
Speaker 4: Eosky retaining against Rhea, although that's tricky, Becky Lynch retaining
Speaker 4: the women's in her Continental Championship, Tiffany Stratton retaining the
Speaker 4: women's Championship. We have Oscar and Kyrie winning the women's
Speaker 4: Tag Team Championships. We have Nikki Bello winning the Women's
Speaker 4: Battle Royal for a women's title match. We have Jade
Speaker 4: begrudgingly beating Naomi in a no holds barred match, and
Speaker 4: Jordan Grace winning the NXT Women's Championship.
Speaker 3: From j C.
Speaker 4: Jane, there you go. Let's see how right or wrong
Speaker 4: I am with that now. Quickly going through maybe an
Speaker 4: email or two, we have one from Darius. Darius says,
Speaker 4: when do you think Sina will drop the belt? Possibly
Speaker 4: at SummerSlam, because I'm getting tired of John and Cody
Speaker 4: arguing even though Cody's range of boring as a babyface,
Speaker 4: it is the right time in place to do it.
Speaker 4: I'm loving the rumors of Randy and Cody's potential heel turn.
Speaker 4: Then it would be more interesting to have Cody as
Speaker 4: a champion. Maybe John can when it's back later in
Speaker 4: the year as a babyface, because I don't think WWE
Speaker 4: will let him leave the company as a heel. Well,
Speaker 4: I've been very steadfast that I don't care what they do.
Speaker 3: With John Cena.
Speaker 4: They could set and have been very extreme and dramatic
Speaker 4: and over the top about this analogy, but it's there's
Speaker 4: a grain of truth to this. John Cena could light
Speaker 4: a fan on fire in the middle of the ring
Speaker 4: in the next several months, and the crowd wouldn't care.
Speaker 4: They're gonna cheer because the the crowd is just ready.
Speaker 4: The crowd is ready to just shower their love on
Speaker 4: John Cena, appreciative of his career, what he's done. It's
Speaker 4: now coming down to the wire. The human element of
Speaker 4: the reality, of the realization of the reality that John
Speaker 4: Cena is going away will supersede anything that they try
Speaker 4: to do with Seena as a heel.
Speaker 3: As good as.
Speaker 4: Seena is on the mic, and he is a master
Speaker 4: on the mic, we know that it's not going to
Speaker 4: matter how many times he runs down the fans, blames them,
Speaker 4: calls us an abusive relationship, makes fun of us, points
Speaker 4: out fans, tells us that he doesn't care about us.
Speaker 4: It doesn't it doesn't matter. It's you know, ram on
Speaker 4: our sports teams in the city. Doesn't matter. The crowd
Speaker 4: is going to organically turn to love John Cena in
Speaker 4: the in the last several months of his career. It's
Speaker 4: already happening now, So they're not going to try to
Speaker 4: turn him or not try to keep him heal. The
Speaker 4: crowd is going to organically turn him no matter what
Speaker 4: they do. There's just nothing that can be done. And
Speaker 4: I'm on the record of that now. As far as
Speaker 4: Cody turning heel there was a h There was certainly
Speaker 4: a tease by Cody saying this is the end of
Speaker 4: a chapter and teasing seemingly teasing a heel turn. But
Speaker 4: Cody's a smart guy. Despite what I think about him,
Speaker 4: on a professional level, he's clearly a very smart guy. Okay,
Speaker 4: why would he at this point be teasing us with
Speaker 4: a heel turn instead of just surprising us with one.
Speaker 4: There is no need, as a top guy in business
Speaker 4: who's a top babyface to tease us with a heel turn.
Speaker 4: Will you should do it when no one's thinking about it,
Speaker 4: when no one sees it coming, that's when you do it.
Speaker 4: So I actually don't think we're anywhere near a Cody
Speaker 4: heel turn, because why would we do it when Cody's
Speaker 4: teasing it on social media, putting it out to millions
Speaker 4: of people.
Speaker 3: It'd be foolish.
Speaker 4: And if that happens, then Cody's a fool on a
Speaker 4: real level, dude, like, don't tell us. We love surprises.
Speaker 4: So and as far as when do I think John
Speaker 4: Cena will drop the belt, I think Summer slams a
Speaker 4: very real possibility. In fact, I think it's a fifty
Speaker 4: to fifty shot he drops it there. He's certainly not
Speaker 4: gonna go all the way through his entire run here
Speaker 4: and drop it in December. I think it's probably before then.
Speaker 4: And there's a couple of matches at the end of
Speaker 4: his career here in October, November, December that are just
Speaker 4: nostalgic fun, good old John Cena in his you know,
Speaker 4: in John Cena mode, having some matches with guys that
Speaker 4: you just wanted to have one more match with John Cena.
Speaker 4: This heel run is coming to an end. It's flaming out.
Speaker 3: It just is.
Speaker 4: Because there's what thirteen twelve dates left on his calendar.
Speaker 4: People are gonna realize that real quick, and they already are.
Speaker 4: So I think John Cena, if you're gonna put a
Speaker 4: gun in my head, loses it at SummerSlam, maybe back
Speaker 4: to Cody, and then Cody and Randy have their matchup
Speaker 4: that I I think is long overdue.
Speaker 3: There you go. I could be totally.
Speaker 4: Wrong, and Johnsena holds it past Summer Slam, and I mean,
Speaker 4: there's an outside chance he goes all the way to
Speaker 4: mid December in his final match and has his final
Speaker 4: match still be a championship match.
Speaker 3: But I hope they don't do that.
Speaker 4: I hope they have him drop it and we all
Speaker 4: say thank you and we can move on. All right,
Speaker 4: one more DJ, I gotta abbreviate your email, DJ, because
Speaker 4: of my time. Here's your predictions. We got Gunther and Goldberg.
Speaker 4: You think that Gunther retains, you're predicting Randy beats Drew,
Speaker 4: Solo retains, and Seth beats l A.
Speaker 3: Knight.
Speaker 4: And for Evolution, EO wins or EO retains. I should
Speaker 4: say Tiffany retains against trist Stratus, Naomi wins against Jade,
Speaker 4: Becky retains, the Women's Inner Continental Championship retains against Jordan Grace,
Speaker 4: Alexa and Charlotte become the new tag team champs, and
Speaker 4: Stephanie Vicoor wins the Women's Battle Royal. Oh okay, thank
Speaker 4: you for and you know what, thank you, DJ, because
Speaker 4: I do remember seeing a graphic about the winner of
Speaker 4: this gets a shot at Clash in Paris, So thank you,
Speaker 4: Stephanie viccor is absolutely up there. But here's the thing.
Speaker 4: Is the crowd ready to and Sephanie on the main
Speaker 4: roster is brand new on the main roster, she's brand new.
Speaker 4: Is the crowd ready to embrace her in a championship opportunity?
Speaker 4: I think she is number two for me. I still
Speaker 4: believe Nikki Bella's number one. Nikki Bella, stephanievicor a close second.
Speaker 4: But thank you for clarifying about when the opportunity for
Speaker 4: a championship match takes place Clash in Paris, So thank you,
Speaker 4: DJ Awesome weekend in Wrestling. Yes, it absolutely will be,
Speaker 4: and thank you so much.
Speaker 3: All right, so let me see.
Speaker 4: If there's anything else there might be one. Let's try
Speaker 4: to get to a voicemailer two and we'll wrap it up,
Speaker 4: and uh, that'll be that.
Speaker 2: This is DJ Cooles melt Back added again on your
Speaker 2: mailback show records.
Speaker 5: You live on the Wednesday board, and you know what
Speaker 5: time it is. It's time to see his name man, hepeers.
Speaker 5: I believe in Joe Hendry.
Speaker 3: I believe in Joe Hendry.
Speaker 5: That's right, folks, Joe Hendry is his name.
Speaker 2: As I take it to my fifty second episode of
Speaker 2: The Judge of Fort La Always coming to you live
Speaker 2: from an undisclosed location. Before we get to today's episode,
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know that we are
Speaker 2: two weeks away That's right, folks, two weeks away to
Speaker 2: TNA Slammerversary TNA's wrest Somnia Style Evan, which will be
Speaker 2: happening on Sunday, July twentieth lar from Elmont, New York
Speaker 2: in Long Island at the Ubas Arena. As of right now,
Speaker 2: as of this recording, we now have seven matches on
Speaker 2: the card. Last week we had three that was recorded.
Speaker 2: Now we have an additional four to make it it's
Speaker 2: seven matches, So I'm gonna quickly go through this list.
Speaker 2: Of course, we have for the TEENA World Championship a
Speaker 2: triple threat of Trick Williams versus Joe Henry versus Mister
Speaker 2: Mike Santana. For the TEENA Ex Division Championship, we have
Speaker 2: Moose versus Leon Slater. We have a fatal four way
Speaker 2: for the TEENA World Tag Team titles, and they consist
Speaker 2: of the Never Brothers of Ryan Nemant and Nicknammit the
Speaker 2: Tag Team Champions versus the Hardys of Matt Hardy and
Speaker 2: Jeff Hardy versus the Rascals of Trey Miguel and Zachary
Speaker 2: Wentz versus First Class of AJ Francis aka Top Dollar
Speaker 2: and K C. Navarro. Now Here are the four additional
Speaker 2: matches and it goes as follows Tessa Blanchard versus Indy Hartwell,
Speaker 2: we have Moustafi Lee. That's right, folks, moose to f
Speaker 2: A Lee versus Cedric Alexander. Cedric Alexander has recently been
Speaker 2: added to TNA and they will rekindle their rivalry on
Speaker 2: Summer versary of Mustafah Lee versus Cedric Alexander. We also
Speaker 2: have for the teen A Knockouts World Tag Team typeitles,
Speaker 2: which basically are the female world tag team titles, and
Speaker 2: they are the champions the Elegance brand of Ash by
Speaker 2: Elegance and heatherby Elegance. They'll be taking on the Inspiration.
Speaker 2: If you remember the Inspiration in WWE, they were known
Speaker 2: as the Iconics. A couple of weeks ago, the Iconics
Speaker 2: aka The Inspiration made their return to TENA, and of course.
Speaker 5: They consist of Cassie Lee and Jessica McKay.
Speaker 2: They will be competing for the TENA Knockouts World Tag
Speaker 2: d titles at ten A Slimmer Firstry and in last
Speaker 2: but not least, a very interesting NXT and TNA collaboration,
Speaker 2: and this is for the major women's world titles, and
Speaker 2: that is a title for titles match of Marshall Slamovik,
Speaker 2: the TNA Knockouts Champ, versus j C. Jayne, the NXT
Speaker 2: Women's champ. Whoever wins this match will have both the
Speaker 2: TNA Knockouts Championship belt and the NXT Championship. Here's a
Speaker 2: very interesting stipulation here. This coming Sunday at Evolution, there
Speaker 2: will be a match between Jordan Grace versus j C.
Speaker 5: Jane. Jac Jane is the current champion on NXT. If
Speaker 5: j C.
Speaker 2: Jane loses, and of course Jordan Grace becomes the new
Speaker 2: NXT Women's Champion, she will be facing Marshas Slamovich at
Speaker 2: TNA Stimiversary.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of moving parts here.
Speaker 2: I like this idea of a title for title match
Speaker 2: of Marcia Slimovich versus either j C.
Speaker 5: Jane or Jordan Grace at TEENA Slammer Versity.
Speaker 2: But now let's get to the Joe Hendry Report, which
Speaker 2: took place pre tape again from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. As we
Speaker 2: had a very interesting talking segment in the final part
Speaker 2: of this episode of TDA par Wrestling, and it was
Speaker 2: mister Frankie Kazarian as he had his debut show called
Speaker 2: The King's Speech, and of course it was mister Frankie
Speaker 2: Kazerian as he was the host, and he invited the
Speaker 2: three opponents that's gonna be in this triple threat for
Speaker 2: the TEENA World Championship. He first invited mister Joe Henry,
Speaker 2: followed by Mike Santana and of course the teen A
Speaker 2: World Champion Trick Williams. He gave each of them an
Speaker 2: opportunity to talk, and let's get to this talking segment
Speaker 2: call the king Speech, and Trick starts it off by
Speaker 2: saying the truth is he has defeated both Henry and
Speaker 2: Santana for the TEENA World title on separate occasions, and
Speaker 2: he declares that at Slammer Versary he will do it
Speaker 2: again in this triple threat. Then we get Santana as
Speaker 2: he gets on the microphone and says that he wants
Speaker 2: to be the best in the world and to do that,
Speaker 2: he has to become the world champion at slammer Versary.
Speaker 2: And last, and certainly not least, Joe Hendry gets the
Speaker 2: microphone and says that the TEENA fans they love the
Speaker 2: chat whoop that Trick, but they want to see Trick
Speaker 2: get whooped. Henry goes on to say that he respects
Speaker 2: Mike Santana's abilities passion, but one day he will become
Speaker 2: a TNA world champion. He will be that top guy,
Speaker 2: but he wants Mike Santana to respect Joe Hendry because
Speaker 2: the fans still chant we believe. Trick interrupts and says, lies, lies, lies.
Speaker 2: Henry lied for a long time, stating that he was
Speaker 2: the guy in TENA, but he couldn't finish the job
Speaker 2: at NXT Battleground. He also says that Mike Santana lied
Speaker 2: to his daughter because he failed to win the TNA
Speaker 2: world title on an episode of NXT.
Speaker 5: When he lost to Trick Williams. Then we see.
Speaker 2: After the talking segment after when mister Frankie Kazerin says
Speaker 2: his final two cents that how Trick Williams is the
Speaker 2: most worthiest of people to regain and keep the TEENA
Speaker 2: World Title After Slimmiversary, we get to see an attack
Speaker 2: of Trick Williams as he attacks both Mike Santana and
Speaker 2: Joe Hendry, which leads to a brawl as both Trick
Speaker 2: Williams and Ka Gazerion beat down on Joe Hendry and
Speaker 2: Mike Santana. We also see Trick Williams using the TEENA
Speaker 2: World Title belt to attack Joe Henry and knock him out,
Speaker 2: and then Trick Williams goes for a knee high trick
Speaker 2: shuck to Mike Santana as he gets knocked out as
Speaker 2: the heels stand tall to close off this episode of
Speaker 2: tenae pe Wrestling, but leading into TNA Simmiversary, Mike Santana
Speaker 2: and Joe Hendry have to work together to take on
Speaker 2: high Rise on the next episode of NXT.
Speaker 5: And let's get to that match.
Speaker 2: Folks of Joe Hendry and Mike Santana versus Tyson and
Speaker 2: Tyrek of high Rise. This match lasted eight minutes and
Speaker 2: forty three seconds, but as we fast forward to the
Speaker 2: course of this match, after when Santana delivered a belly
Speaker 2: to back souplex to Tyson, Santana goes to the top
Speaker 2: turnbuckle but then all of a sudden, here comes Wesley
Speaker 2: as he tries to distract the referee and Santana. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: outside the ring, Trick Williams appears and shoves Joe Hendry
Speaker 2: into the ringside steps. Then Santana quickly knocks out Wesley
Speaker 2: with a massive form to West's face. Tyson tries to
Speaker 2: get to Santana in the corner of the ring, but
Speaker 2: Santana moves quickly out the way as Tyson goes face
Speaker 2: first into the top turboko. Santana then goes for the
Speaker 2: spinning disc at Larott also known as the Spinning the
Speaker 2: Block on Tyson and one two three, Henry and Santana.
Speaker 3: Get the victory.
Speaker 2: But then after when the match is over, we get
Speaker 2: a quick postmatch beat down from Trick Williams as he
Speaker 2: delivers a spinning trick kick to Mike Santana, and then
Speaker 2: Henri gets back into the ring as Henry and Williams
Speaker 2: begin to brawl, but then all of a sudden, Wesley
Speaker 2: comes back into the ring and delivers a superkick to
Speaker 2: Joe Hendry and knocks him out, and high Rise proceeds
Speaker 2: to beat down on Joe Hendry while Wesley beats down
Speaker 2: on Mike Santana and here's the final blow. Folks with
Speaker 2: high rise holding Joe Hendry, they shoved Joe into the
Speaker 2: direction of Trick Williams as Trick Williams delivers yet again
Speaker 2: another knee high trick shot to Joe Henry, and once
Speaker 2: again they heal stand toll over Joe Hendry and Mike
Speaker 2: Santana as the road.
Speaker 5: To the triple deat for the ten World Championship.
Speaker 2: Continues at Slammer Versary. Well, also remember this coming Saturday
Speaker 2: at the Great American Bash, it will be the contract
Speaker 2: signing of Trick Williams, Joe Hendry and Mike Santana for
Speaker 2: the TEENA World Championship. Always remember to believe, say his name,
Speaker 2: Always remember the words that Joe Hendry says anytime, any place,
Speaker 2: at any show, and most simporly, most simporly, always remember
Speaker 2: to do this strong.
Speaker 3: Sight sciencing.
Speaker 5: Welcome leading to.
Speaker 2: See once again this is your guy, DJ COULSMO, have
Speaker 2: a blessed week, Big kai to one of the stays
Speaker 2: in my friends, Believe and peace.
Speaker 3: All.
Speaker 4: Thank you as always, DJ, very detailed in your analysis,
Speaker 4: very much appreciated to keep us abreast of what is
Speaker 4: going on with Joe Henry on the TNA side of things,
Speaker 4: and the triple threat for the TNA World title that's
Speaker 4: going to be taking place at Slammiversary. I you know,
Speaker 4: I'm actually may check that out. I have not exactly
Speaker 4: been a consistent viewer with TNA. I know a lot
Speaker 4: of the listeners don't consistently watch TNA. But maybe you're
Speaker 4: gravitating us into that world because Joe Henry is a guy.
Speaker 4: Not just with Joe Henry, of course, but we've got
Speaker 4: Trick Williams, as you've mentioned, a long time adversary of
Speaker 4: Joe Hendry, certainly making things interesting hearing and seeing Joe Hendry,
Speaker 4: you know, get beat down by heels as you're you're
Speaker 4: telling us. Because I didn't see it, I'm taking your
Speaker 4: word for it. Getting beat down on a weekly basis,
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks is a good thing to have happen.
Speaker 4: You know, that's a good reset for any babyface if
Speaker 4: you're feeling like they're losing getting some momentum, you know,
Speaker 4: slow down, or their even reversing course. I think that's
Speaker 4: a great way Joe Henry no exception to kind of
Speaker 4: correct a little bit, get the sympathy back on the
Speaker 4: baby face, having the heels week after week get the
Speaker 4: best of the baby faces. I don't think that happens enough.
Speaker 4: It's not a tried and true, you know, cure all,
Speaker 4: but it's something that is certainly a way to build
Speaker 4: that anticipation of seeing the he'll get their ass handed
Speaker 4: to them. And I don't think we get enough of
Speaker 4: that in pro wrestling in general, because the promotions are
Speaker 4: so interested in making sure that we go home happy,
Speaker 4: but they don't use the emotion of anger enough, that
Speaker 4: emotion of anger and anticipation of getting to see the heel,
Speaker 4: you know, finally get put down by the babyface, overcoming
Speaker 4: the odds or whatever the case. I don't think we're
Speaker 4: seeing that enough in pro wrestling generally. So hearing Joe
Speaker 4: Henry get his you know, get beat down a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks in a row is not a bad thing.
Speaker 4: And you know the thing is does does he win?
Speaker 4: It's Slammiversary.
Speaker 3: I do wonder. I mean, I'll leave that to you
Speaker 3: to decide.
Speaker 4: Does he win or you know, do they give the belt.
Speaker 3: To somebody else?
Speaker 4: It's certainly something that I can't speak on intelligently. I'll
Speaker 4: leave that to you, DJ or and others that watch DNA.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that's good. And also let me know,
Speaker 4: I guess DJ or anybody if you've been listening to
Speaker 4: the crowd reactions for Joe Henry, I know it was
Speaker 4: a sticking point a few weeks ago that the crowd
Speaker 4: reactions seemed to be waning and that maybe he was
Speaker 4: a flash in the pan. And I don't know if
Speaker 4: that's still the case with the crowd reactions for Henry.
Speaker 4: The thing is that concerns me with him. I've seen
Speaker 4: his entering work. That's not really the issue. He had
Speaker 4: a big moment at WrestleMania with Randy Orton. But my
Speaker 4: concern is is he a one trick pony with just
Speaker 4: an entrance?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: Like people love the music and the turn and the smile.
Speaker 4: He's got a very much He's got an infomercial smile.
Speaker 4: He's got a car salesman smile. He's a smile that
Speaker 4: you could put on a billboard. But my concern is
Speaker 4: that there's nothing beyond that for him, Like, is that
Speaker 4: his only is that all he's got to bring? Now again,
Speaker 4: in the I think he's fine. His finished move is good.
Speaker 4: Choke Slam's fine, but my concern is that people are
Speaker 4: more love the music than him. You could say the
Speaker 4: same thing for Cody, but Cody's built a relationship off
Speaker 4: of that music. Yes, the crowd still loves that music.
Speaker 4: It's a great song for I mean, it's one of
Speaker 4: the most perfect wrestling entrance music themes I've ever heard.
Speaker 4: But my concern is for Joe Ken. Joe grab onto
Speaker 4: the fans in a way that's not just hey, listen
Speaker 4: to my music, let's participate in the entrance, and then
Speaker 4: after that they seem to kind of fall off. I
Speaker 4: hope it's not a superficial love for Henry, and the
Speaker 4: way you find out if it is is time time.
Speaker 4: Did they consistently follow him during the match? Does he
Speaker 4: get a reaction when he wins? Is it all about
Speaker 4: the entrance or is it just is there more? The
Speaker 4: best example I can think of of somebody that seemingly
Speaker 4: was all entrance and nothing else is Bobby Rude. When
Speaker 4: he got to WWE, he was glorious and that's all
Speaker 4: we knew. That's all he was glorious, glorious, glorious. He's glorious.
Speaker 4: I'm glorious you're glorious. That's all we freaking new, and
Speaker 4: I hope that's not the case for Joe. It doesn't
Speaker 4: seem like it is. But I am a little bit,
Speaker 4: you know, watchful of that. So that I think will
Speaker 4: conclude a little bit of the mailbag here. We did
Speaker 4: go through the predictions, and that may be it. If
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Speaker 4: Sunday night, depending on the results of the shows. If
Speaker 4: the show's results are big enough, I will be back
Speaker 4: Saturday night with your review. But I need to kind
Speaker 4: of take a breath from my vacation trying to record
Speaker 4: and family and everything. But certainly if it's warranted, I
Speaker 4: will be back, certainly on Sunday.
Speaker 3: It'll be no matter what.
Speaker 4: I'll be back on Sunday for the Evolution Slash Saturday
Speaker 4: Night main event wrap up, and then we'll be off
Speaker 4: to a non pl e week next week before SummerSlam
Speaker 4: comes to us. I think the following week. I mean SummerSlam.
Speaker 4: It's like, I think it's like two weeks away.
Speaker 3: It's just wild.
Speaker 4: I mean, SummerSlam is just too it's too quick of
Speaker 4: a turnaround. But either way, I appreciate everybody listening so much.
Speaker 4: I hope you guys are having a good week staying cool,
Speaker 4: and I'll be talking to you in a day or two.
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