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Speaker 4: The New Orleans Saints take on the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: Yeah they did.
Speaker 4: Coming up it's going to be in soldier field.
Speaker 2: And twenty twenty four rookie QB.
Speaker 3: Action Spencer Raler does have more passing yards than Caleb
Williams in case anybody's keeping score at home, more completions
as well, and less interceptions and more attempts. So just
putting that out there, it's going to be a nice
little battle. Dennis Allen, defensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears,
obviously knows this roster pretty well just being the head
coach of the Saints over the last couple of years.
A great opportunity for the Saints, a team and the
Bears that have some momentum after they went to Washington
and found a way to win that game in some
bad weather.
Speaker 4: So a lot of storylines coming into this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the Chicago we've been talking about them
for a couple of years. Of course, they have reach
in Eberflus as their head coach. When Kayleb Williams gets drafted,
and you know, I know that Taylor over here, he's
got a real pet peeve about people firing a head
coach the year after they draft a first rounder, a
top pick. But I think we've kind of always known
the talent surrounding. They were one of the few teams
that had a top pick at quarterback that kind of
had the pieces in place for that quarterback to be successful.
A lot of times you see a guy go one
of these top picks and they're just in a bad situation.
The team's not ready for a quarterback, so that they
have all the pieces now, Caleb Williams, say what you
want about him, Say what you want about last year.
The guy's gifted. The guys talented. And I really really
do like their head coach and Ben Johnson. The offense
that he runs. I loved, love, love the defensive Lions
offensive philosophy, their play calling, their schemes, how they're under center,
they're in shotgun they do, They're versatile, they're creative. I
have loved that in the past. So I do think
that they are going to continue to get better and
be a really dangerous team at the back half of
this year. And they do. Like you said, they went
to Washington, they won and a just a nasty game. Uh,
it was it was either team's game to win right there.
You'd like to see Jayden, you had a couple of picks.
I believe in then a fumble at the end one.
It's one of his very few like blemishes in games
like that. But if you can notice on television with
the cameras, the quality of cameras that they use in
the NFL, you can notice the rain and bad weather
on TV, it's extremely bad on the field because most
of the times when it rains, those cameras, you don't
even see the rain. It's so crystal clearly you don't
even see the rain, so you can't tell how bad
it is. So it was really any any team's game
to win on that one, But there's an emotional win
for them, I'm sure. And the Saints, yeah, I mean,
going on the road, they have all the opportunity. I
think it's a Saints team that is playing hard. Maybe
not the talent, the talent top to bottom that the
Chicago Bears have, but a quarterback that's playing really well. Yeah,
I want to see him open it up, take some shots,
take take a maybe take a few more risks here
and there. But it's gonna be a it's gonna be
a good matchup, and I think the I think the
Bears are gonna be sneaky good again towards the last
half of the season. But they do think it's a
winnable game for the Saints. They gotta go on the road,
They got to prove it. They just have to be
able to make the plays that matter when it matters.
Speaker 3: I do think Spencer did take some more chances, even
that that ball he threw to Chris Olave. You know,
it's kind of like, hey, I'm gonna give a chance
to my guy to go make a play. And then
Chris Olave made the play, but then came down and
he absolutely fumbled that ball.
Speaker 4: That was a catch in a fumble.
Speaker 3: They caught it incomplete, But like, that's a chance he
probably didn't take in the first couple of weeks and so,
and you saw him push the ball down the field
certainly more in the last two games than he has before.
But you're right, it's like one of those situations back
when what year would that have been, twenty twenty two
Jayden Daniels where he didn't have any interceptions and Brian kellyes,
like now we kind of want you to throw one
because we want you to take some chances and you
don't have.
Speaker 4: To be perfect there.
Speaker 3: I do feel like over the last two weeks Spencer
Ratler has and probably because he feels safe for in
his job security, it's probably like, Okay, I can take
that chance now. Now you're not reckless, right, It's just
a chance because it's like a fifty to fifty situation
and you're gonna throw it up to your guy and
allow him to go make a play.
Speaker 4: But in the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: I'm going to assume that he was like, man, if
I throw two interceptions here, I'm have Tyler shuck in
this game real quick, and I don't want that.
Speaker 2: And it's just and a couple of plays here or
there changes everybody's kind of view of this, their outlook
on kind of changes that narrative. I think that's the
only narrative out there that would be at least pointing
in the direction of a negative towards his play. Was like, hey,
you know what I think we I know you have
only one interception on the season. I think we want
to kind of take a risk here there at times.
Now it's not every play, and you don't want him
to make a big adjustment in that direction, Like if
he hits one or two more plays in a game
that narrative's changed because I mean you look back at
I mean we used to watch clips and clicks. We
played a lot of common opuements. Watch Drew Brees all
the time. And it was shallacross, shallacross, flare rout, screen
behind the line of scrimmage, screen, shalacross, shalacross, post route, Yeah, gellacross, shalacross,
stick route, go ball like it was. It was that
type of situation. So that that is how the good
quarterbacks operate. That is how they are successful because you
are patient, patient, patient, and then when the opportunity is there,
you take advantage of it. You take advantage of a
mistake that the defense makes. It's not like I'm calling
this play because I want to go deep and I
want to Sometimes you do that when you pass protect
and you have something that you saw on film where okay,
we're gonna occupy the free safety, then we're gonna run
a deep V route with the backside guy. We know
this is a shot play, but most big plays are
not called quote unquote shot plays. They are you run
your offense and you take advantage of a mistake that
the defense makes. But when that happens, you have to
see it and you got to make the play. And
the Saints just have not made that play enough. Now
we saw it more. We certainly saw it more first
play the game this past week. They made the play
that wasn't probably called like we know that this is
gonna be a deep shot, and it was all right,
if it's there, let's take it. If not, shat lacrosse
check down, and I think he's been Maybe the coaching
point is, hey, on these certain situations, on these certain plays,
maybe give it, like just a split second more to
read that safety's momentum. Read that safety he's on his
heels or not the fees you know you read when
you take shots, like you're reading the safety. It's if
they're backpedaling, if they're on their heels, back pedaling like
looking at like a crossing route. And you got a
guy running a post. He's running full speed even if
they are at the same level, and he doesn't look open.
Right now, you gotta say, all right, this guy's open
because my guy's running full speed. The other guy's back pedaling,
so he's open. So maybe give like that type of
read a split second longer so I don't want him
to change much, if anything at all. Yeah, I just
think they got it. They do have to hit those
plays and went in their whole operation of the offense.
Like look, one or two more big plays made in
a game, that narrative is completely cut out.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure you enjoyed like him taking this shot
early in the game, because a lot of times that
route is clearing for what you're talking about, like a
shallow cross.
Speaker 4: Something coming underneath.
Speaker 3: I mean every level of football has that where you
run the rail and here comes shallow cross from the
other side, and the rail is supposed to take the
coverage with them. But if they don't cover the rail,
or if you think the rail route has you know,
a step ahead, take the shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Nothing says you can't throw it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even like even most quick games, most quick games
where when you have five eligible receivers, even if it's
a three step drop and we got a slant flat
or a triple slant on one side, or a stick
route which is sticking like a five yard out route. Yeah,
at least there's usually one guy that's going deep. Yeah,
one guy that's running at least a fade route or
a corner route or something like that. So and it's
like alert, alert that if it's normal down a distance
and you got what you want, alert the deep ball.
So at that it's like, okay, well we just said it.
It was a shot play. We had a shot play.
It was a forty five yard game. Awesome first down.
I love how our offense is taking shots now. Well,
in reality, it was a three step drop that we've
already called five times in the game. He just hit
a slant, he hit a stick route, he hit a
flat route, and then they just presented this opportunity. And
I think early in the season a lot of that
didn't present itself because of all the shell coverage that
the Saints were facing. And they're like, I don't think
y'all are talented enough. I don't think y'all are good
enough to go fifteen plays and walk it down the field,
taking three four five yards at a time. I don't
think you can run. I think you're gonna make mistakes,
you're gonna have penalties. And they were kind of right, yeah, right,
they're right, and they just didn't allow I mean, a
defense they don't want you to throw the ball. A
defense doesn't have to let you.
Speaker 3: Take and look credit to Spencer Ratler early in those
games because he didn't force the issue. He didn't, you know,
become reckless with the football. But they were gonna make
you prove that you could do something else. And now
that he has you're gonna see some different looks and
you're gonna have the opportunities, and you got to take
those opportunities. And look, if he throws for an interception,
that's fine, right, If he takes those chances and he
throws for one, it's okay. I know he only has
one on the year, But as the playbook opens up,
as the coverage opens up a little bit, you'd like
to see your quarterback go out there and do what
he did. Like last week, there was no checkdown Charlie,
like he was reading it and if it was there,
he was letting it rep. He's taking chances down the sideline.
Some were completed, some were not because the guy graised
your forearm with his hand and it became too much
to catch the football. So I thought last week was
it was a lot of real growth. And look, Spencer's
been the top five in the top five of graded
offensive players for the Saints all year long, but he
was the second highest graded quarterback in the entire NFL
last week, and you could see that on tape, Like
the tape told the story of that grade. And I
think that hopefully has unlocked something with him and within
the offense that they can now play.
Speaker 4: A little bit more aggressive. It doesn't have to be
a whole lot, just a little bit.
Speaker 3: More aggressive here in this game against Caleb Williams because
Calep's gon to play aggresive because Caleb knows he's the
first overall pick.
Speaker 4: He knows he's the guy, and he knows he can
take chances.
Speaker 2: And Ben Johnson is gonna take He's a shot taker, yeah,
and he likes to hit you with a running game,
hit you a quick game pass, and then all of
a sudden, we're gonna play action and hit a hit
a deep shot, and we're gonna hit a couple of
reverses up, maybe a reverse pass, a little Philly special line.
Like he's just a guy that does a lot of
those crazy random things and they usually work. He just
times it up really well. But you saw with Spencer Rattler,
you started seeing a little fire come out of him
late in the game, little competitiveness. And I think we
talked about this yesterday with Nick Underhill. It's like that
little ghost, that little little ghost of Tyler Shuck over
his shoulder. I think it's starting to fade away a
little bit. With the better and better he's playing, the
more confident and more you see that, I think, the
more leeway you give him to take charge.
Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, let's go ahead and take a break.
Speaker 2: I'll be laughing at it.
Speaker 4: There life. She got the sneezes over there.
Speaker 2: I just keep sneezing, just over and over saying the
ghost of Tyler shuck. I mean, he's still here with us.
Speaker 5: He's still with us.
Speaker 6: And also we know Spencer bullies and goes to some
degree degree.
Speaker 2: Friend of the Show, Spencer Rautler.
Speaker 5: Friend of the Show, Spencer Ratler, all.
Speaker 2: Right, uh tough questions? Are you ready? No?
Speaker 4: Not to take over the float for him?
Speaker 2: I think away, We're good, We're good.
Speaker 4: I throw it away because he's up. He's up. Get
the box. Here in the box.
Speaker 2: You're not a left we come in.
Speaker 4: It's uh, you're not a lefty.
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Speaker 5: They say, good question for you all the time.
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What do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Very special?
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Speaker 2: We're not same side sitters right now. It's fantastic. I
don't know, so do y'all go through like I think
that is the second time you played Is that that's
the second time you played Outcast? I go through like
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for like three weeks and I won't listen to him
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Speaker 4: Everybody they're calling.
Speaker 2: You, they're calling me. Is that like the great value vers? Okay, well,
fair enough, I'll take that. He's pretty good. All right.
We're here just like we do every single week. We
got LSU team doctor doctor Steven Ethridge joining the show. Doc.
How we doing doing great?
Speaker 4: How about yourself?
Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic. Uh you know, just uh Jacob taking
the training wheels off here and we're just gonna roll
right into it. So, yeah, we got a lot of
a lot of injuries out there, a lot of things happening,
nothing specific with with the LSU team, but we've in
college football for sure, there was some uh, some injuries
that kind of took some headlines last week and made
some big difference in the top ten, probably in the
top ten of college football. We of course, the Oklahoma
Sooner quarterback John Mattie are choosing to play after really
just a couple of weeks. I think he thumb injury,
thumb surgery. What did you kind of think of that decision?
It seemed pretty quick that he just kind of got
rushed back there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt really fast.
Speaker 7: You know, he never want to be critical of anybody's
decisions to how they handle things. But you know, I
think when all of us talked about it, you know,
we knew it was a hand injury. We heard thumb injury.
You know, a lot of the reports that a broken bone.
You know, typically those injuries, whether it's a broken bone,
whether it's a torn ligament, if it's something to requires surgery.
In our experience, you're looking at a few more weeks
than that.
Speaker 4: I know, it's a big game.
Speaker 7: I'm sure he wanted to play, and I'm not saying
it was it was the wrong decision at the time.
It sure looks like it in hindsight, just the way
he played. You know, you got to assume, you know,
there's certain positions with the thumb injury, and I think
we had talked about this in the past, but you know,
if I'm a defensive lineman, we can put a big,
you know, cast over the hand.
Speaker 2: You can club it up, it's a lot easier to play.
Speaker 7: But when you're a quarterback as you're throwing hand at
that or wide receiver, it's a little bit of a
different injury.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I remember so when I was my senior year,
I had a high ankle spring, and I remember it
was a big deal to kind of not hide the injury,
but hide the fact like which foot it was, Like,
I remember, we went to very extensive like spat both
feed up the exact same way, because when you have
an injury like that, it's also kind of a big,
big target, a big bullseye for the defense. So as
much as like we want to say it's a you know,
sound a gentleman's game out there, like you're looking for
every advantage you can. I think we talked about it.
Booger McFarlane just like on calling on ESPN was like, oh,
well John Ateer's got a right hand. He's like, if
I'm a defensive lineman, I'm looking for that to step on. Yeah,
So it's like that, it's got to be something that
like ways on the medical staff, the training staff, like
how do you protect it in between plays?
Speaker 7: Well, you do your best, like you said, is there
some some gamesmanship or we're gonna try and hide it,
or we're gonna try and downplay whatever. Of course, you
know you're gonna hear that a lot, but but it is.
It is a physical game. You know, you're gonna take
every advantage you can get. And some people don't like
hearing that, you know, for those people who never played
the game or don't understand it's it's it's it's war
out there, you're trying to win. It may seem dirty,
and it really it is dirty, but that's what people
are gonna do. There's gonna be guys. They're gonna try
and grab that thumb and twist it in a pile.
They're gonna step on it, they're gonna kind of roll
over on it. They're gonna do what they can. And
for an injury that that is that acute, you know,
it's something that clearly, in my opinion, affected his play.
Speaker 2: And then so do I remember so I think they
were talking about it like game day they had so
he had surgery on it, and it was a pretty
pretty sizable screw that was put into his thumb. And
this is like if you're a quarterback and if it's
our left hand fine like a right hand. That's I mean,
there's no way two weeks post surgery, like what what
what should the normal lead time be like that? And
I know it's different for defensive line. Someone that doesn't
isn't having to use to find motor skills of their
fingers that you can club it up. You can do
stuff like that before a quarterback, for a receiver, for
even a running back that's got to hold onto the
ball and grip it did not fumble. Like what would
your normal like recommendation be we got to sit or
is it more of like, let's see how the rehabs going.
Speaker 7: It's a little bit of both. You want to see
the swellings gone down. You want to see that function
is good. So we're gonna look at can you open
and close your hand? Can you grip as your deckst
already there? You know, we look with the thumb, You're
gonna look at opposition strengths. So when you kind of
hold your thumb towards your pink, you're one of your
other fingers is their strength, is their full motion. So
that's what you want to see first. But then you
also want to kind of see, you know, is this
thing healing. You know, you're gonna look for if it's
a broken bone, is there what we call a callus
that's forming. Is there a new bone that's forming around
that fracture site. So you want to know that it's
a stable injury, because even with a screw or some
kind of hardware in there, you still want to see
an injury healing. It's still, especially in some of these
small bones in the hands, it's not like the hardware
is going to be as strong as it might be
another places. You know, we've talked about the high ankles
when we do the tight rope procedures, and that we
know that tightrope holes that ankle together. It's a little
different with these little di bones. You want to see
that they are healing first. So we're looking on an
X ray, we're looking on a CT scan, we're doing
our evaluation, you know, and typically you're looking at a
position like quarterback or wide receiver. You're you're probably looking
at it more like a month, you know, on the
short end. Sure, it's kind of been our experience. Start, yeah,
get started doing that.
Speaker 2: So like when when when you have surgery and guys
have like metal put into the when they have screws.
Is that what you want to see as a doctor,
You want to see new bone growth around that.
Speaker 7: For a lot of the injuries, again, each location is
a little bit unique, but it's just kind of a
blanket statement.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Usually that's part of what we look for. You want
to see that the body is responding, you know, is
there some healing, is there some recovery because even though
the screw is there, if it's a smaller screw, or
if it's in the hand, where's such a small joint,
sometimes you still need a little bit of extra reinforcement there.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, So all right, another injury on the NFL level,
or I guess what wasn't an injury, but it made
a lot of headlines. The New York Giants played this
past week and an absolutely electric game, a division game
for them. They got they got two just absolute meathead
rookies playing for them. They got Camp Scatterby. They got
Jackson Dart. Okay, so Jackson Dar's playing great. They are
a moment, they're playing a game about to win, a
game that you know, people are saying they shouldn't win,
and it is in the height of the moment. They
got the ball they're driving, he's playing great, They're up
by I can't remember the score, but it was probably
a one score game at the time, and they need everything,
they need all the bullets they can. Well, he gets hit.
It didn't look like like a crazy hit on the head,
but sometimes like a concussion or something, some sort of
brain injury doesn't always look bad. Sometimes it does, but
on this occasion it didn't. So they rush them off
to the side, They rush them to the tent, and
a ton of controversy coming out of all these people
going to the tent. Brian Dave all trying to rush
them out of the tent. What is Is the tent
a sacred place? Is it a place where not many
people have admission to it? Is the coach normally is
it coach allowed to go into there? Is other players
allowed to go into that tent? What happens in that tent?
Speaker 7: Well, well, by design, yeah, it's supposed to be a
little bit of an inclusive areas, supposed to be something
that's private that gives you a little bit of a
sanctuary on the sideline. From the medical standpoint, somewhere we
can go where you don't have the prying eyes of
whether it's the coaching staff, but also you know, the media,
the fans, everybody.
Speaker 4: That's part of it.
Speaker 7: Part of it is privacy, part of it is dignity,
part of his being able to do a good exam
without that pressure from from what you know, can be
a high pressure situation if you're trying to get a
guy ready to go out.
Speaker 4: There with concussions.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: The NFL has their policy which is similar to everybody.
We all have a policy, but the NFL is is
probably one of the most rigid ones, at least in
American sports, and the tent during concussion protocol by NFL standards.
Part of their league policy is yes, it is a
closed environment. It is basically team physicians, athletic trainers, and
that's pretty much it. So if a coach is coming
in there or even you know, I think Scataboo went
in there just to check on his guy, that technically
is a violation, which but yeah, and I don't know
what the conversation was, but but on the you know,
and and there's a part of me though that gets
that because these are also guys that love each other.
These are guys that you know, I mean, sure, I've
been in the tent plenty of times. We're looking at,
you know, one of the guys. You know, if if
you're in the tent and and you know, Jacob might
comming and say, hey, this is my guy.
Speaker 4: Is he okay?
Speaker 7: And that's that's just his love, That's that's me showing
my guy. I'm here for you, that's me being there.
So I do, I do have some sympathy in that situation.
And I also get the coaching standpoint. You know, you
don't have a timeline is is this guy gonna be
ready to go in five minutes.
Speaker 4: Or do we know? Do you know the answer?
Speaker 2: You burn a precious time out right there, right.
Speaker 7: And if you know you're gonna get your guy back,
that makes sense, you're like, hey, we're about done here.
But having said that, the policy is the policy, and
the policy in the NFL is that if it is concussion,
if it's head or neck injury, no one else can
come in the tent until the exam is done. And
it is so that there is that not that undue
pressure because you know, I can I can think back
to you know, one of the situations, and this is
one that was a very obvious one, but you know
when when a burrowed you got hit in the UCF game,
everybody thought he had a concussion. I thought he had concussion.
And yeah, and I'm walking out there, and I mean,
I'm going through my head already. I'm like, dang, I'm
gonna have to talk to coach. I'm gonna tell O
that that his guys out and you know, and and
and we had to you know, our our backup was
almost of medical stuff at that point. So we had
a scenario where it was, you know, I'm already prepping
myself for that conversation. Well if he wasn't, he was
clear as a bell. And I mean I did everything
on him twice, and like he's got to have a concussion, right.
But in the NFL, the policy is you're in the tent,
you cannot have anybody else come in the tent until
you are done. And you know, so they may probably
get a fine or I think they can even lose
a draft pick. There's a whole bunch of potential penalties
their policy. Like I said, they have independent neurologist on
the sideline. They have a very rigid policy, and most
of us have a pretty rigid policy with concussions. They're
just slight variabilities from one group to another.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't know. I mean, Brian Dabo might
not have even known he was in concussion protocol. You
might have thought it was a shoulder or something like that.
But have you on the sideline have you ever been
absolutely yelled at and undressed by a head coach?
Speaker 4: I have not on the sideline.
Speaker 7: I've had a couple of players, you know, because one
thing that people have to understand too is an addition
to everything that we're looking at, we have the medical
spotters that are up.
Speaker 4: So we have a spotter that's up in the booth.
Speaker 7: And there was one time when one of the players
got pretty angry with me because the spotter had called
down and said, hey, you need to check this guy out.
He got hit in the head. And once that call
comes down, we have to check them out. That is
part of our policy is if I get a call
from the spotter, I can't just say, oh, now he's fine.
So I get a call from spotter. If they call
and say, hey, you need to check on Flinn. If
even if you're in the game, we have to pull
you out. If it's for a head injury. I have
to do an evaluation before you go back in. And
I had a guy that was just really really angry,
uh because he'd tell him he's fine, and it is
your fault. Yeah, it was my fault, you know. And
and and you know when he of the moment I
get it motioned adrenaline, he's he's jacked up, you know,
he doesn't want to come out of the game. And
the sad thing is he spent so much time, like
you know, fussing and arguing with us, and you know,
the trainers over there, coaches had to come settle them down.
And finally we do our evau and he was fine,
but we wasted so much time that if you just said, hey,
do the evout would have taken just a few minutes.
Never never had too bad from a coach that there was.
There was an event where we had a pregame because
where the coach is pretty angry because it happened for
the game. Uh, but not really with me, you know.
And I know sometimes he the moment it's like just wait,
we got one in pregame. This guy's going on.
Speaker 4: It was crazy.
Speaker 7: And so sometimes they get they get animated, they get heated,
they get excited, and I think even in most of
those situations, you understand they're they're trying to get their
head around what's going on, and they're trying to win
a game. And you know, I think We've been pretty
lucky with our coaching staff. I've never felt pressure to
get a guy healthy. I've never felt like I had
to do something to make the coaching staff happy. And
I know that does happen someplaces sometimes.
Speaker 2: So with the concussion with the brain injury we see
in the NFL, and I think a lot of people
roll their eyes at this when they see it, But
we've seen a lot of people with the Guardian caps on,
with the logo. A couple of receivers for Green Bay Taylor.
Taylor doesn't like looking at it. Is there good evidence
and research that that improves the safety I'm assuming it does,
Or is a guy that's wearing that somebody that's kind
of predisposed to it, who's had concussions in the path
and should the way Jackson Dart dives into people, should
he wear one?
Speaker 7: So the concussion caps, the Guardian caps, there is some
evidence there. It's pretty clear that they do reduce the
risk of concussion that there's a lot of evidence mostly
the NFL does a really good job that they have
a lot of data on head injuries that they have
date on helmets. So just anybody that's looking for a
helmet for your kid, if you want to the best helmets,
you can go to the NFL and they will rate
the helmets from their best all the way down, and
they'll show you the ones that are kind of junk
for preventing concussions. But they've done a lot of research
in the guarding caps. They did it, you know, looking
at looking at practices through camp, they had all the
teams wearing them, looking at the incidents of concussions they
did go down. That's that's why they opened that opportunity. Look,
I agree, I think they're ugly, but you know, you know,
I don't like the look on the one hand, but
but they work. You know, we wear them at practice
at LSU, the guys wearing for practice. If you have
players that want to wear them, pretty much, at least
at most of the hot leagues, they give the guys
the choice. But yeah, if a guy we know is
more more concussion prone, if he's had a few, he'd
probably be a guy. We might say, Hey, you really
want to think about wearing this?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Because it does? It does work, all right. Last question,
this one comes from our listeners in the chat. Is
there a cure for cankeles?
Speaker 7: Cure for cankles? Yeah, you know, I haven't found one yet.
Haven't found one yet. We'll keep looking.
Speaker 2: He's a plastic surgery. I don't know. We'll figure it out.
But Doc, I can't thank you enough. Thanks for joining us,
Doctor Steven at their Jealousy Team. Doctor enjoy the trip
to Nashville. Yeah, would be good one. Have some fun
listening to some country music, have some good food, and
we appreciate your time, my pleasure. You next week, all right,
I'll wrap it up for the segment. We will come
back here. We appreciate it right here, off the bench,
Off the bench, all right, just like every single day
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Speaker 5: Yeah? I'm going to Blinds right now. I mean Pelican roofing.
Wait which one did you just do?
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Speaker 5: I'm going to Pelican.
Speaker 4: Would you rather?
Speaker 3: Hell?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got one?
Speaker 2: Mm? I got one right. We didn't have like a
little sound thing.
Speaker 5: We don't have one for that, but I am I
am going to play a song under it.
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Speaker 5: But we got a little song to go under.
Speaker 2: What a rookie me? Not you? Yeah? Taylor, go ahead?
All right?
Speaker 8: In honor of spooky season, would you rather stay in
a non haunted Hells for an entire weekend or have
to hide from a slasher for an whole weekend?
Speaker 5: I basically grew up in a haunted house, so I'm
staying in the haunted house.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, the I have stayed in some haunted houses too.
The place that we stayed at at training camp in
Green Bay Saint Norbert's College that the dorm that we
stayed in was haunted. I stayed in the haunteds place
in Buffalo some kind of like Spencer Rally and to
a certain extent, definitely not the go situation.
Speaker 6: I feel like that's when you either have to be
all in on or not though, like I don't know
how you can believe in them and to some degree, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Then from the like so definitely that Like I don't
want to like the chance to get murdered. You don't
think you're gonna get, you know, murdered by ghosts. You
might be get scared. But a slasher, if you're a slasher,
and you get the term slasher like you're pretty, you're
pretty brutal to you're probably a badass, like you're not
you gotta be tough, right, You're not carrying a pocket
knife around. You're more like acts of masshif. Yeah, fake
tough guys are carrying around firearms. But if you're just
a slasher, like you're bad, you're all right. But you
watched some of these slasher movies and the people running
from are pretty dumb. They are in the heat of
the moment, I get it. You make emotional decisions. Your
brain's not thinking correctly, but from the outside looking in,
real dumb decisions.
Speaker 5: Very dumb.
Speaker 2: Mich he just walks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, super fat like.
Speaker 2: He got a little bit more magical appears as the
movies went on to get more magical.
Speaker 3: The.
Speaker 5: More deep into the Halloween series that you.
Speaker 2: Get, the more like supernatural.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I have a theory that Michael Myers actually sprints and
then when people start to turn around, he walks again.
Speaker 2: And he's off camera. Bro, he's he's high.
Speaker 5: Means, what's like the fastest forty of all time?
Speaker 2: Believe bo Jacks. I think I think ran a four
to one.
Speaker 6: Michael Myers probably wins or runs like a three five
or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or as like transport like, uh yeah, it's gotta
be kind of really defines physics. But we're all in agree.
In hornted house, Yeah, it's on a house.
Speaker 6: Ye.
Speaker 8: Would you be more scared in a hanted house that
you'd survive better because it's not gonna happen?
Speaker 2: But would you be more scared in the house, But
I'd be terrified for my life?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: Slasher Again, I grew up in a haunted house, So
I haunted ghosts don't bother me.
Speaker 2: I've stayed the night here. Yeah, this place is harnted.
So like when I was in the dorm in Green Bay,
like we were, it was there was ghost situations happening,
there's paranormal activity. Many of my close friends witnesses of it,
felt it right. When that situation happens, you know, you
just put the covers over your head, close your eyes,
ignore it, and then you're good. If you just close
your eyes Stareth Wall, what can they do?
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's I was gonna say, like, what does
it really matter if there's a ghost or not.
Speaker 6: You know, there's just like a spirit here chilling with me,
but it's not gonna do anything to me, so it
doesn't really have an effect on me. So I don't
really care if there's a if a house is haunted.
So yeah, I'm one thousand percent staying in the haunted house.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's a good one. Let's stick with a Halloween
theme coming up. Would you rather go to for fun?
Of course, go to a haunted house, a Halloween haunted house,
thirteenth d or whatever, or a really good corn maze?
Is the corn maze also I think like you could
have half of the corn maze where it's family friendly,
half of it haunted.
Speaker 5: Then corn maze.
Speaker 8: Yeah, corn maze, I'm gonna say corn maze. Corn maze
is more naturally scary. You're outside, it's a nighttime, you
can't really see, like you're trying to navigate your way
through it while being scared.
Speaker 2: Like I think, I think a corn maze is like
scary by itself. Yeah, so probably that. Yeah, you can
control the controllables a little bit more there. I feel
like in a haunted house, it's I hadn't been to
hotted house since like ninth grade. I went two weeks ago,
probably weeks ago.
Speaker 5: But if we did an OTV Thirteenth Gate and film, I.
Speaker 2: Hadn't been to the UH. I hadn't been to the
thirteenth Gate since like, oh college and UH I went
two weeks ago.
Speaker 5: Why do I feel like y'all made me go in
the front.
Speaker 2: Because we would There used to be a corn maze
in bean Rouge in college that was I don't know
if it was out on Nicholson or was it used
to want to Poured Island right across the bridge. There
was one that wasn't across the bridge. It was maybe
it was like three or four something like that. It
was early on in my college career. Maybe it's out.
I thought it was out on Nicholson and it was
like that. It was like a pretty legit corn maze.
And one side was like just the maze, you'll figure
it out. And one side was like people with chainsaws
like chasing. You still got one up in pine Grove.
The You don't know where that is. It's close to Kentwood, Okay,
I didn't.
Speaker 5: Okay, here's another Halloween one.
Speaker 2: I like this.
Speaker 6: I know, would you rather turn into a scarecrow every
night or have that's constantly nesting in your hair a scarecrow? Right?
Speaker 2: Okay, so say the first one turn a scarecrow.
Speaker 5: Every night every night, or have that's constantly nesting in
your hair.
Speaker 8: At least I'm something cool with his share at least
like yeah, because the bird's gonna land on you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well actually yeah, I want to be done. I
don't want to bat landing on me. At least I'm
averaging twelve good hours a day. I think scarecrows they
just chill. They're probably getting some sleep.
Speaker 5: Okay, I feel like that wasn't that great?
Speaker 6: So would you rather have to babysit Chucky for a
weekend or share a bunk bed with Pennywise.
Speaker 8: I'm babysitting Chucky. I'm gonna throw him across the room
repeatedly until he gives up. That's anybody ever seen the
movie Child's Play? It is not a horror movie.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious. It's kind of funny. It's a hilarious movie.
I'm choosing. I guess I'm choosing Chucky. Ye, Anywise, Like,
I don't do that. I don't mess with clown sue.
Speaker 5: No, clowns are so freaky to me.
Speaker 2: Let's see Chucky open the door. He's like a foot
toll walking in a closet. Right, you don't have.
Speaker 5: On Wolf of Wall Street where they're with the little people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you just do that to Chucky, put him
in a bell crow suit and start throwing him at targets.
Speaker 2: And I didn't expect to bring this up, So I
don't have all like all the I don't have an
all that information like that sort of give. But did
y'all see that clip the guy there's this YouTuber, young
guy who bought like the this doll that is like
the most haunted doll.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: Bull. No, it's it's a well known guy, Anna Bell doll. Yeah,
there you go. And he had and he bought this
whole house with like all these haunted artifacts. And I'm like, man,
this dude, wait no, no, no, no, this was Matt Rife. Yeah,
I don't know who that is. He's a comedian.
Speaker 5: Matt rf did this insane. He bought the insane.
Speaker 8: I don't know if he bought the house. He bought
like the rights to the house that the dolls kept
in or something like that. It's it's something weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did. He bought for like one hundred years
or something like or twenty years. He owns the rights
to it. Like that doll.
Speaker 5: She's creepy.
Speaker 1: I know, M.
Speaker 2: Just thinking about it. Yeah, sixteen Days of Halloween. All right,
all right, flavor, flav it was actually a fun Would
you really that was really good? Would you always had
to get Jake out of here? It's a tripod? All right,
we're gonna come back. We will close out our number two,
continue talking lsu Vandy. Obviously we did in this segment,
but we'll continue talking. We'll get a little game film.
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Speaker 1: Tigers turn talkers.
Speaker 2: This is off the bench, all right, welcome back in
off the bench. We are closing out our number two
right here, and we all finally got what we want.
Jake's out of here, driving Clafayette to talk about safety
from the guy that didn't care about his own safety.
What an anomaly? All right? So we talked about l
s U Vandy and the big kind of storyline for
me right now outside of the x's and o's, is
that Vanderbilt is favored against LSU. I think it started
at about a point point and a half. I think
it's up to two and a half point favorites against
the top ten, one loss LSU football team. What the
hell is happening? I don't know. Vanderbilt is they got
a a group, they got a head coach, they got
a team that is eras tacking up, they got a
quarterback that plays like a caveman and Taylor Landra. Can
y'all tell me when the last time LSU was or
Vandy was favored against LSU.
Speaker 8: Never it's gotta be like seventies eighties or the nineteen
ninety game they won nineteen forty eight.
Speaker 2: This was my next guest was nineteen forty eight was
the last time Vanderbilt was favored against the LSU fighting tires,
So seventy seven since seventy seven years, and of course
we said it earlier. Vandy has not beaten LSU since
nineteen ninety. So I kind of thought it'd be fun
to take a trip down memory lane and take a
look at what else in the world and in sports
was happening in nineteen forty eight, the last time Vandy
was favored against LSU. All right, we're gonna start with
just kind of the world. The state of Israel was proclaimed,
first year of it State of Israel. Nineteen forty eight,
Gandhi was assassinated, the Indian leader famous North Year, Big Year,
it's a big year for nineteen forty eight, North and
South Korea were established as separate nations. So the last
time Vandy was favored was when North and South Korea
were established. They were just Korea. Also, the People's Republic
of China was also founded. The first Porsche car was created,
the first bar.
Speaker 4: And Harry S.
Speaker 2: Truman won a surprise victory in the US presidential electioning
he defeated Thomas E. Dewey. Hello, and then in sports,
let's go away from I like that. Yeah you see.
June twenty fifth, at New York's Yankee Stadium, Joe Lolis
knocked out Jersey Joe Walcott in the eleventh round to
retain his heavyweight title for the twenty fifth time. How
about that twenty five times? The defendit time. The Cleveland
Indians defeat the Boston Braves four games. The two four
went out the Great Mambino Babe Ruth Askaway nineteen forty eight.
I know the horse citation becomes the eighth horse to
win the Triple Crown. How about that citation? Very famous,
and the horse racing community. I'd have dabbled in a
few bets there, and then they grew. Golfer Ben Hogan
wins two majors, wins the PGA Championship in the US Open.
So the last time Bandy was favored over Elis Shoe,
America was a real country, still had the paper boys
with their paper boy hats, and people said, yeah, you see,
join us our three, We'll talk some more sports.
Speaker 1: Off the bench,