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Speaker 4: The New Orleans Saints take on the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they did.

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Speaker 4: Coming up it's going to be in soldier field.

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Speaker 2: And twenty twenty four rookie QB.

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Speaker 3: Action Spencer Raler does have more passing yards than Caleb

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Williams in case anybody's keeping score at home, more completions

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as well, and less interceptions and more attempts. So just

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putting that out there, it's going to be a nice

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little battle. Dennis Allen, defensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears,

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obviously knows this roster pretty well just being the head

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coach of the Saints over the last couple of years.

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A great opportunity for the Saints, a team and the

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Bears that have some momentum after they went to Washington

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and found a way to win that game in some

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bad weather.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of storylines coming into this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the Chicago we've been talking about them

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for a couple of years. Of course, they have reach

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in Eberflus as their head coach. When Kayleb Williams gets drafted,

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and you know, I know that Taylor over here, he's

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got a real pet peeve about people firing a head

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coach the year after they draft a first rounder, a

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top pick. But I think we've kind of always known

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the talent surrounding. They were one of the few teams

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that had a top pick at quarterback that kind of

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had the pieces in place for that quarterback to be successful.

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A lot of times you see a guy go one

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of these top picks and they're just in a bad situation.

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The team's not ready for a quarterback, so that they

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have all the pieces now, Caleb Williams, say what you

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want about him, Say what you want about last year.

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The guy's gifted. The guys talented. And I really really

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do like their head coach and Ben Johnson. The offense

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that he runs. I loved, love, love the defensive Lions

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offensive philosophy, their play calling, their schemes, how they're under center,

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they're in shotgun they do, They're versatile, they're creative. I

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have loved that in the past. So I do think

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that they are going to continue to get better and

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be a really dangerous team at the back half of

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this year. And they do. Like you said, they went

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to Washington, they won and a just a nasty game. Uh,

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it was it was either team's game to win right there.

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You'd like to see Jayden, you had a couple of picks.

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I believe in then a fumble at the end one.

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It's one of his very few like blemishes in games

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like that. But if you can notice on television with

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the cameras, the quality of cameras that they use in

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the NFL, you can notice the rain and bad weather

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on TV, it's extremely bad on the field because most

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of the times when it rains, those cameras, you don't

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even see the rain. It's so crystal clearly you don't

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even see the rain, so you can't tell how bad

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it is. So it was really any any team's game

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to win on that one, But there's an emotional win

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for them, I'm sure. And the Saints, yeah, I mean,

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going on the road, they have all the opportunity. I

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think it's a Saints team that is playing hard. Maybe

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not the talent, the talent top to bottom that the

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Chicago Bears have, but a quarterback that's playing really well. Yeah,

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I want to see him open it up, take some shots,

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take take a maybe take a few more risks here

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and there. But it's gonna be a it's gonna be

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a good matchup, and I think the I think the

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Bears are gonna be sneaky good again towards the last

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half of the season. But they do think it's a

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winnable game for the Saints. They gotta go on the road,

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able to make the plays that matter when it matters.

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Speaker 3: I do think Spencer did take some more chances, even

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that that ball he threw to Chris Olave. You know,

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it's kind of like, hey, I'm gonna give a chance

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to my guy to go make a play. And then

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Chris Olave made the play, but then came down and

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he absolutely fumbled that ball.

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Speaker 4: That was a catch in a fumble.

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Speaker 3: They caught it incomplete, But like, that's a chance he

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probably didn't take in the first couple of weeks and so,

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and you saw him push the ball down the field

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certainly more in the last two games than he has before.

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when what year would that have been, twenty twenty two

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Jayden Daniels where he didn't have any interceptions and Brian kellyes,

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like now we kind of want you to throw one

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because we want you to take some chances and you

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Speaker 4: To be perfect there.

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Speaker 3: I do feel like over the last two weeks Spencer

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Ratler has and probably because he feels safe for in

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his job security, it's probably like, Okay, I can take

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that chance now. Now you're not reckless, right, It's just

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a chance because it's like a fifty to fifty situation

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and you're gonna throw it up to your guy and

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allow him to go make a play.

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Speaker 4: But in the first couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to assume that he was like, man, if

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I throw two interceptions here, I'm have Tyler shuck in

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this game real quick, and I don't want that.

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Speaker 2: And it's just and a couple of plays here or

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there changes everybody's kind of view of this, their outlook

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on kind of changes that narrative. I think that's the

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only narrative out there that would be at least pointing

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in the direction of a negative towards his play. Was like, hey,

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you know what I think we I know you have

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only one interception on the season. I think we want

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to kind of take a risk here there at times.

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Now it's not every play, and you don't want him

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to make a big adjustment in that direction, Like if

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he hits one or two more plays in a game

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that narrative's changed because I mean you look back at

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I mean we used to watch clips and clicks. We

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played a lot of common opuements. Watch Drew Brees all

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the time. And it was shallacross, shallacross, flare rout, screen

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behind the line of scrimmage, screen, shalacross, shalacross, post route, Yeah, gellacross, shalacross,

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stick route, go ball like it was. It was that

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type of situation. So that that is how the good

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quarterbacks operate. That is how they are successful because you

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are patient, patient, patient, and then when the opportunity is there,

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you take advantage of it. You take advantage of a

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mistake that the defense makes. It's not like I'm calling

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this play because I want to go deep and I

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want to Sometimes you do that when you pass protect

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and you have something that you saw on film where okay,

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we're gonna occupy the free safety, then we're gonna run

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a deep V route with the backside guy. We know

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this is a shot play, but most big plays are

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not called quote unquote shot plays. They are you run

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your offense and you take advantage of a mistake that

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the defense makes. But when that happens, you have to

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see it and you got to make the play. And

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the Saints just have not made that play enough. Now

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we saw it more. We certainly saw it more first

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play the game this past week. They made the play

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that wasn't probably called like we know that this is

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gonna be a deep shot, and it was all right,

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if it's there, let's take it. If not, shat lacrosse

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check down, and I think he's been Maybe the coaching

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point is, hey, on these certain situations, on these certain plays,

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maybe give it, like just a split second more to

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read that safety's momentum. Read that safety he's on his

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heels or not the fees you know you read when

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you take shots, like you're reading the safety. It's if

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they're backpedaling, if they're on their heels, back pedaling like

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looking at like a crossing route. And you got a

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guy running a post. He's running full speed even if

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they are at the same level, and he doesn't look open.

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because my guy's running full speed. The other guy's back pedaling,

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so he's open. So maybe give like that type of

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read a split second longer so I don't want him

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to change much, if anything at all. Yeah, I just

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think they got it. They do have to hit those

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plays and went in their whole operation of the offense.

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Like look, one or two more big plays made in

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a game, that narrative is completely cut out.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure you enjoyed like him taking this shot

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early in the game, because a lot of times that

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route is clearing for what you're talking about, like a

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shallow cross.

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Speaker 4: Something coming underneath.

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Speaker 3: I mean every level of football has that where you

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run the rail and here comes shallow cross from the

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other side, and the rail is supposed to take the

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coverage with them. But if they don't cover the rail,

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or if you think the rail route has you know,

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a step ahead, take the shot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Nothing says you can't throw it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even like even most quick games, most quick games

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where when you have five eligible receivers, even if it's

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a three step drop and we got a slant flat

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or a triple slant on one side, or a stick

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route which is sticking like a five yard out route. Yeah,

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at least there's usually one guy that's going deep. Yeah,

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one guy that's running at least a fade route or

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a corner route or something like that. So and it's

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like alert, alert that if it's normal down a distance

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and you got what you want, alert the deep ball.

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So at that it's like, okay, well we just said it.

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I love how our offense is taking shots now. Well,

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in reality, it was a three step drop that we've

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already called five times in the game. He just hit

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a slant, he hit a stick route, he hit a

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flat route, and then they just presented this opportunity. And

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didn't present itself because of all the shell coverage that

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the Saints were facing. And they're like, I don't think

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y'all are talented enough. I don't think y'all are good

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enough to go fifteen plays and walk it down the field,

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taking three four five yards at a time. I don't

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think you can run. I think you're gonna make mistakes,

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you're gonna have penalties. And they were kind of right, yeah, right,

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they're right, and they just didn't allow I mean, a

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defense they don't want you to throw the ball. A

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defense doesn't have to let you.

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Speaker 3: Take and look credit to Spencer Ratler early in those

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games because he didn't force the issue. He didn't, you know,

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become reckless with the football. But they were gonna make

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you prove that you could do something else. And now

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that he has you're gonna see some different looks and

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you're gonna have the opportunities, and you got to take

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those opportunities. And look, if he throws for an interception,

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that's fine, right, If he takes those chances and he

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throws for one, it's okay. I know he only has

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one on the year, But as the playbook opens up,

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as the coverage opens up a little bit, you'd like

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to see your quarterback go out there and do what

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like he was reading it and if it was there,

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he was letting it rep. He's taking chances down the sideline.

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Some were completed, some were not because the guy graised

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your forearm with his hand and it became too much

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to catch the football. So I thought last week was

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it was a lot of real growth. And look, Spencer's

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offensive players for the Saints all year long, but he

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was the second highest graded quarterback in the entire NFL

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last week, and you could see that on tape, Like

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the tape told the story of that grade. And I

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think that hopefully has unlocked something with him and within

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the offense that they can now play.

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Speaker 4: A little bit more aggressive. It doesn't have to be

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a whole lot, just a little bit.

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Speaker 3: More aggressive here in this game against Caleb Williams because

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Calep's gon to play aggresive because Caleb knows he's the

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first overall pick.

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Speaker 4: He knows he's the guy, and he knows he can

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take chances.

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Speaker 2: And Ben Johnson is gonna take He's a shot taker, yeah,

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and he likes to hit you with a running game,

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hit you a quick game pass, and then all of

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a sudden, we're gonna play action and hit a hit

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a deep shot, and we're gonna hit a couple of

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reverses up, maybe a reverse pass, a little Philly special line.

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Like he's just a guy that does a lot of

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those crazy random things and they usually work. He just

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times it up really well. But you saw with Spencer Rattler,

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you started seeing a little fire come out of him

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late in the game, little competitiveness. And I think we

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talked about this yesterday with Nick Underhill. It's like that

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little ghost, that little little ghost of Tyler Shuck over

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his shoulder. I think it's starting to fade away a

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little bit. With the better and better he's playing, the

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more confident and more you see that, I think, the

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more leeway you give him to take charge.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, let's go ahead and take a break.

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Speaker 2: I'll be laughing at it.

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Speaker 4: There life. She got the sneezes over there.

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Speaker 2: I just keep sneezing, just over and over saying the

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ghost of Tyler shuck. I mean, he's still here with us.

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Speaker 5: He's still with us.

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Speaker 6: And also we know Spencer bullies and goes to some

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degree degree.

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Speaker 2: Friend of the Show, Spencer Rautler.

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Speaker 5: Friend of the Show, Spencer Ratler, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, uh tough questions? Are you ready? No?

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Speaker 4: Not to take over the float for him?

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Speaker 2: I think away, We're good, We're good.

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Speaker 4: I throw it away because he's up. He's up. Get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good question.

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Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU Football twenty four to seven. You're

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listening to Off the Bench relaxing.

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Speaker 5: And outcast last and not clashing, not at all because

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you went to google little act and that he wasn't

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asking and give me.

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Speaker 4: Want to pass them rip trip there Gas.

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Speaker 2: You're coming all right, welcome back in Off the Bench

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one of four five ESPN. We did it, everybody, We

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got rid of them. We dropped the dead weight, Doc.

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What do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: Very special?

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Speaker 7: Sitting here on the whole side of the table to myself,

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I know.

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Speaker 2: We're not same side sitters right now. It's fantastic. I

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don't know, so do y'all go through like I think

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that is the second time you played Is that that's

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the second time you played Outcast? I go through like

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these random outcast kicks where I just listened to Outcasts

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for like three weeks and I won't listen to him

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for three years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're so good, all right?

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Speaker 4: Everybody they're calling.

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Speaker 2: You, they're calling me. Is that like the great value vers? Okay, well,

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fair enough, I'll take that. He's pretty good. All right.

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We're here just like we do every single week. We

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got LSU team doctor doctor Steven Ethridge joining the show. Doc.

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How we doing doing great?

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Speaker 4: How about yourself?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic. Uh you know, just uh Jacob taking

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the training wheels off here and we're just gonna roll

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right into it. So, yeah, we got a lot of

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a lot of injuries out there, a lot of things happening,

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nothing specific with with the LSU team, but we've in

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college football for sure, there was some uh, some injuries

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that kind of took some headlines last week and made

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some big difference in the top ten, probably in the

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top ten of college football. We of course, the Oklahoma

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Sooner quarterback John Mattie are choosing to play after really

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just a couple of weeks. I think he thumb injury,

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thumb surgery. What did you kind of think of that decision?

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It seemed pretty quick that he just kind of got

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rushed back there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt really fast.

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Speaker 7: You know, he never want to be critical of anybody's

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decisions to how they handle things. But you know, I

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think when all of us talked about it, you know,

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we knew it was a hand injury. We heard thumb injury.

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whether it's a torn ligament, if it's something to requires surgery.

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than that.

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Speaker 4: I know, it's a big game.

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Speaker 7: I'm sure he wanted to play, and I'm not saying

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it was it was the wrong decision at the time.

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It sure looks like it in hindsight, just the way

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he played. You know, you got to assume, you know,

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there's certain positions with the thumb injury, and I think

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we had talked about this in the past, but you know,

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if I'm a defensive lineman, we can put a big,

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you know, cast over the hand.

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Speaker 2: You can club it up, it's a lot easier to play.

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Speaker 7: But when you're a quarterback as you're throwing hand at

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that or wide receiver, it's a little bit of a

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I had a high ankle spring, and I remember it

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but hide the fact like which foot it was, Like,

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I remember, we went to very extensive like spat both

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feed up the exact same way, because when you have

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an injury like that, it's also kind of a big,

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big target, a big bullseye for the defense. So as

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much as like we want to say it's a you know,

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sound a gentleman's game out there, like you're looking for

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every advantage you can. I think we talked about it.

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Booger McFarlane just like on calling on ESPN was like, oh,

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well John Ateer's got a right hand. He's like, if

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I'm a defensive lineman, I'm looking for that to step on. Yeah,

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like ways on the medical staff, the training staff, like

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how do you protect it in between plays?

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Speaker 7: Well, you do your best, like you said, is there

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some some gamesmanship or we're gonna try and hide it,

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or we're gonna try and downplay whatever. Of course, you

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know you're gonna hear that a lot, but but it is.

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It is a physical game. You know, you're gonna take

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every advantage you can get. And some people don't like

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hearing that, you know, for those people who never played

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the game or don't understand it's it's it's it's war

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out there, you're trying to win. It may seem dirty,

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and it really it is dirty, but that's what people

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are gonna do. There's gonna be guys. They're gonna try

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and grab that thumb and twist it in a pile.

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They're gonna step on it, they're gonna kind of roll

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over on it. They're gonna do what they can. And

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for an injury that that is that acute, you know,

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it's something that clearly, in my opinion, affected his play.

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Speaker 2: And then so do I remember so I think they

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were talking about it like game day they had so

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he had surgery on it, and it was a pretty

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pretty sizable screw that was put into his thumb. And

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this is like if you're a quarterback and if it's

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our left hand fine like a right hand. That's I mean,

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there's no way two weeks post surgery, like what what

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what should the normal lead time be like that? And

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I know it's different for defensive line. Someone that doesn't

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isn't having to use to find motor skills of their

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fingers that you can club it up. You can do

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stuff like that before a quarterback, for a receiver, for

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even a running back that's got to hold onto the

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ball and grip it did not fumble. Like what would

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your normal like recommendation be we got to sit or

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is it more of like, let's see how the rehabs going.

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Speaker 7: It's a little bit of both. You want to see

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the swellings gone down. You want to see that function

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is good. So we're gonna look at can you open

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and close your hand? Can you grip as your deckst

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already there? You know, we look with the thumb, You're

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gonna look at opposition strengths. So when you kind of

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hold your thumb towards your pink, you're one of your

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other fingers is their strength, is their full motion. So

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that's what you want to see first. But then you

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also want to kind of see, you know, is this

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thing healing. You know, you're gonna look for if it's

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a broken bone, is there what we call a callus

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that's forming. Is there a new bone that's forming around

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that fracture site. So you want to know that it's

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a stable injury, because even with a screw or some

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kind of hardware in there, you still want to see

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an injury healing. It's still, especially in some of these

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small bones in the hands, it's not like the hardware

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is going to be as strong as it might be

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another places. You know, we've talked about the high ankles

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when we do the tight rope procedures, and that we

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know that tightrope holes that ankle together. It's a little

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different with these little di bones. You want to see

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that they are healing first. So we're looking on an

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X ray, we're looking on a CT scan, we're doing

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our evaluation, you know, and typically you're looking at a

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position like quarterback or wide receiver. You're you're probably looking

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at it more like a month, you know, on the

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short end. Sure, it's kind of been our experience. Start, yeah,

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get started doing that.

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Speaker 2: So like when when when you have surgery and guys

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have like metal put into the when they have screws.

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Is that what you want to see as a doctor,

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You want to see new bone growth around that.

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Speaker 7: For a lot of the injuries, again, each location is

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a little bit unique, but it's just kind of a

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blanket statement.

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00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:09,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

476
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 7: Usually that's part of what we look for. You want

477
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,440
to see that the body is responding, you know, is

478
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,200
there some healing, is there some recovery because even though

479
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,720
the screw is there, if it's a smaller screw, or

480
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,519
if it's in the hand, where's such a small joint,

481
00:21:20,599 --> 00:21:22,960
sometimes you still need a little bit of extra reinforcement there.

482
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay, So all right, another injury on the NFL level,

483
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,920
or I guess what wasn't an injury, but it made

484
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,680
a lot of headlines. The New York Giants played this

485
00:21:34,759 --> 00:21:39,279
past week and an absolutely electric game, a division game

486
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,119
for them. They got they got two just absolute meathead

487
00:21:43,319 --> 00:21:45,720
rookies playing for them. They got Camp Scatterby. They got

488
00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:49,000
Jackson Dart. Okay, so Jackson Dar's playing great. They are

489
00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:51,000
a moment, they're playing a game about to win, a

490
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,680
game that you know, people are saying they shouldn't win,

491
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,119
and it is in the height of the moment. They

492
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,880
got the ball they're driving, he's playing great, They're up

493
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,640
by I can't remember the score, but it was probably

494
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,720
a one score game at the time, and they need everything,

495
00:22:03,759 --> 00:22:07,240
they need all the bullets they can. Well, he gets hit.

496
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,559
It didn't look like like a crazy hit on the head,

497
00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:11,960
but sometimes like a concussion or something, some sort of

498
00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:15,759
brain injury doesn't always look bad. Sometimes it does, but

499
00:22:16,039 --> 00:22:18,119
on this occasion it didn't. So they rush them off

500
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,799
to the side, They rush them to the tent, and

501
00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:23,200
a ton of controversy coming out of all these people

502
00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:25,160
going to the tent. Brian Dave all trying to rush

503
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,440
them out of the tent. What is Is the tent

504
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,319
a sacred place? Is it a place where not many

505
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,960
people have admission to it? Is the coach normally is

506
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,880
it coach allowed to go into there? Is other players

507
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,359
allowed to go into that tent? What happens in that tent?

508
00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:42,279
Speaker 7: Well, well, by design, yeah, it's supposed to be a

509
00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:44,400
little bit of an inclusive areas, supposed to be something

510
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,160
that's private that gives you a little bit of a

511
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,720
sanctuary on the sideline. From the medical standpoint, somewhere we

512
00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:51,920
can go where you don't have the prying eyes of

513
00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:54,880
whether it's the coaching staff, but also you know, the media,

514
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,960
the fans, everybody.

515
00:22:56,319 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 4: That's part of it.

516
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,839
Speaker 7: Part of it is privacy, part of it is dignity,

517
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,279
part of his being able to do a good exam

518
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,680
without that pressure from from what you know, can be

519
00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:05,440
a high pressure situation if you're trying to get a

520
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,400
guy ready to go out.

521
00:23:06,279 --> 00:23:07,839
Speaker 4: There with concussions.

522
00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

523
00:23:08,519 --> 00:23:11,519
Speaker 7: The NFL has their policy which is similar to everybody.

524
00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:13,720
We all have a policy, but the NFL is is

525
00:23:13,759 --> 00:23:15,519
probably one of the most rigid ones, at least in

526
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,839
American sports, and the tent during concussion protocol by NFL standards.

527
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,440
Part of their league policy is yes, it is a

528
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,119
closed environment. It is basically team physicians, athletic trainers, and

529
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,759
that's pretty much it. So if a coach is coming

530
00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:31,960
in there or even you know, I think Scataboo went

531
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,640
in there just to check on his guy, that technically

532
00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:38,440
is a violation, which but yeah, and I don't know

533
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,279
what the conversation was, but but on the you know,

534
00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:43,319
and and there's a part of me though that gets

535
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,319
that because these are also guys that love each other.

536
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,880
These are guys that you know, I mean, sure, I've

537
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,559
been in the tent plenty of times. We're looking at,

538
00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:49,839
you know, one of the guys. You know, if if

539
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,680
you're in the tent and and you know, Jacob might

540
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,759
comming and say, hey, this is my guy.

541
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 4: Is he okay?

542
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 7: And that's that's just his love, That's that's me showing

543
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,359
my guy. I'm here for you, that's me being there.

544
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,960
So I do, I do have some sympathy in that situation.

545
00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:02,000
And I also get the coaching standpoint. You know, you

546
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,640
don't have a timeline is is this guy gonna be

547
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,440
ready to go in five minutes.

548
00:24:05,559 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 4: Or do we know? Do you know the answer?

549
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,279
Speaker 2: You burn a precious time out right there, right.

550
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,799
Speaker 7: And if you know you're gonna get your guy back,

551
00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:12,839
that makes sense, you're like, hey, we're about done here.

552
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,000
But having said that, the policy is the policy, and

553
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,720
the policy in the NFL is that if it is concussion,

554
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,920
if it's head or neck injury, no one else can

555
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,240
come in the tent until the exam is done. And

556
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,200
it is so that there is that not that undue

557
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,640
pressure because you know, I can I can think back

558
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,480
to you know, one of the situations, and this is

559
00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:31,200
one that was a very obvious one, but you know

560
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,880
when when a burrowed you got hit in the UCF game,

561
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000
everybody thought he had a concussion. I thought he had concussion.

562
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,599
And yeah, and I'm walking out there, and I mean,

563
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,440
I'm going through my head already. I'm like, dang, I'm

564
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,720
gonna have to talk to coach. I'm gonna tell O

565
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,960
that that his guys out and you know, and and

566
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,640
and we had to you know, our our backup was

567
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,400
almost of medical stuff at that point. So we had

568
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,240
a scenario where it was, you know, I'm already prepping

569
00:24:50,319 --> 00:24:52,519
myself for that conversation. Well if he wasn't, he was

570
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:54,039
clear as a bell. And I mean I did everything

571
00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:56,039
on him twice, and like he's got to have a concussion, right.

572
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,640
But in the NFL, the policy is you're in the tent,

573
00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:02,000
you cannot have anybody else come in the tent until

574
00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:04,359
you are done. And you know, so they may probably

575
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,759
get a fine or I think they can even lose

576
00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:07,839
a draft pick. There's a whole bunch of potential penalties

577
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,680
their policy. Like I said, they have independent neurologist on

578
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,480
the sideline. They have a very rigid policy, and most

579
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:16,920
of us have a pretty rigid policy with concussions. They're

580
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,920
just slight variabilities from one group to another.

581
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't know. I mean, Brian Dabo might

582
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,359
not have even known he was in concussion protocol. You

583
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,680
might have thought it was a shoulder or something like that.

584
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:29,519
But have you on the sideline have you ever been

585
00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:33,400
absolutely yelled at and undressed by a head coach?

586
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 4: I have not on the sideline.

587
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 7: I've had a couple of players, you know, because one

588
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,039
thing that people have to understand too is an addition

589
00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:41,960
to everything that we're looking at, we have the medical

590
00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:42,799
spotters that are up.

591
00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:44,519
Speaker 4: So we have a spotter that's up in the booth.

592
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 7: And there was one time when one of the players

593
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,559
got pretty angry with me because the spotter had called

594
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:50,240
down and said, hey, you need to check this guy out.

595
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:52,200
He got hit in the head. And once that call

596
00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:54,079
comes down, we have to check them out. That is

597
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,960
part of our policy is if I get a call

598
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,759
from the spotter, I can't just say, oh, now he's fine.

599
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,680
So I get a call from spotter. If they call

600
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,160
and say, hey, you need to check on Flinn. If

601
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,799
even if you're in the game, we have to pull

602
00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:04,680
you out. If it's for a head injury. I have

603
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:06,720
to do an evaluation before you go back in. And

604
00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:08,640
I had a guy that was just really really angry,

605
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,759
uh because he'd tell him he's fine, and it is

606
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,200
your fault. Yeah, it was my fault, you know. And

607
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:13,759
and and you know when he of the moment I

608
00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:16,880
get it motioned adrenaline, he's he's jacked up, you know,

609
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,200
he doesn't want to come out of the game. And

610
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,960
the sad thing is he spent so much time, like

611
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000
you know, fussing and arguing with us, and you know,

612
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:24,319
the trainers over there, coaches had to come settle them down.

613
00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:25,880
And finally we do our evau and he was fine,

614
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,200
but we wasted so much time that if you just said, hey,

615
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,079
do the evout would have taken just a few minutes.

616
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,200
Never never had too bad from a coach that there was.

617
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:36,279
There was an event where we had a pregame because

618
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,519
where the coach is pretty angry because it happened for

619
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,039
the game. Uh, but not really with me, you know.

620
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:43,400
And I know sometimes he the moment it's like just wait,

621
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,920
we got one in pregame. This guy's going on.

622
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:45,599
Speaker 4: It was crazy.

623
00:26:46,039 --> 00:26:48,519
Speaker 7: And so sometimes they get they get animated, they get heated,

624
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:50,799
they get excited, and I think even in most of

625
00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:54,160
those situations, you understand they're they're trying to get their

626
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,759
head around what's going on, and they're trying to win

627
00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:57,759
a game. And you know, I think We've been pretty

628
00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:00,119
lucky with our coaching staff. I've never felt pressure to

629
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,960
get a guy healthy. I've never felt like I had

630
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,519
to do something to make the coaching staff happy. And

631
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,839
I know that does happen someplaces sometimes.

632
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,799
Speaker 2: So with the concussion with the brain injury we see

633
00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:11,079
in the NFL, and I think a lot of people

634
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,519
roll their eyes at this when they see it, But

635
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:14,680
we've seen a lot of people with the Guardian caps on,

636
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,519
with the logo. A couple of receivers for Green Bay Taylor.

637
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,759
Taylor doesn't like looking at it. Is there good evidence

638
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,839
and research that that improves the safety I'm assuming it does,

639
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,119
Or is a guy that's wearing that somebody that's kind

640
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,440
of predisposed to it, who's had concussions in the path

641
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:35,240
and should the way Jackson Dart dives into people, should

642
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:35,680
he wear one?

643
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,799
Speaker 7: So the concussion caps, the Guardian caps, there is some

644
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,559
evidence there. It's pretty clear that they do reduce the

645
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,960
risk of concussion that there's a lot of evidence mostly

646
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,880
the NFL does a really good job that they have

647
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,319
a lot of data on head injuries that they have

648
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,079
date on helmets. So just anybody that's looking for a

649
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,160
helmet for your kid, if you want to the best helmets,

650
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,680
you can go to the NFL and they will rate

651
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,519
the helmets from their best all the way down, and

652
00:27:57,559 --> 00:27:58,839
they'll show you the ones that are kind of junk

653
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,079
for preventing concussions. But they've done a lot of research

654
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,480
in the guarding caps. They did it, you know, looking

655
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,400
at looking at practices through camp, they had all the

656
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,480
teams wearing them, looking at the incidents of concussions they

657
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,559
did go down. That's that's why they opened that opportunity. Look,

658
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:12,480
I agree, I think they're ugly, but you know, you know,

659
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:14,599
I don't like the look on the one hand, but

660
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:16,599
but they work. You know, we wear them at practice

661
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,960
at LSU, the guys wearing for practice. If you have

662
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:21,119
players that want to wear them, pretty much, at least

663
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,599
at most of the hot leagues, they give the guys

664
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,759
the choice. But yeah, if a guy we know is

665
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:27,000
more more concussion prone, if he's had a few, he'd

666
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:28,519
probably be a guy. We might say, Hey, you really

667
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:29,599
want to think about wearing this?

668
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 4: Uh?

669
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: Because it does? It does work, all right. Last question,

670
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,720
this one comes from our listeners in the chat. Is

671
00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:38,079
there a cure for cankeles?

672
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:42,279
Speaker 7: Cure for cankles? Yeah, you know, I haven't found one yet.

673
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:43,960
Haven't found one yet. We'll keep looking.

674
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: He's a plastic surgery. I don't know. We'll figure it out.

675
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,839
But Doc, I can't thank you enough. Thanks for joining us,

676
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,640
Doctor Steven at their Jealousy Team. Doctor enjoy the trip

677
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,559
to Nashville. Yeah, would be good one. Have some fun

678
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,400
listening to some country music, have some good food, and

679
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,880
we appreciate your time, my pleasure. You next week, all right,

680
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,680
I'll wrap it up for the segment. We will come

681
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:04,240
back here. We appreciate it right here, off the bench,

682
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:12,960
Off the bench, all right, just like every single day

683
00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:15,279
we tell you about it. It's we're almost getting close

684
00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:17,279
to tailgating time. We're getting close to the weekend time,

685
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:20,759
we're getting close to grilling time. With that weather changing

686
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,000
just a little bit, there's no better time to go

687
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,759
for dose than right now. Do sekis Delicious Mexican lager.

688
00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:32,039
They have the tall green bottles they got the cans,

689
00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:34,400
they got the amber especial, how they got the michiladas,

690
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,839
the chiladas, whatever it is. If you're going to do it,

691
00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:39,440
make sure you're packing that cooler. Make sure you're packing

692
00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:43,319
that fridge with ice cold delicious. Do Scis that's right,

693
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,400
dosequis the beer that turns your tailgate into a celebration

694
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:50,559
and your postgame into story worth telling. Crisp, refreshing, bold

695
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,079
enough for the big moment, smooth enough to keep them coming,

696
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:56,640
whether it's a classic Lagger especial or the rich amber

697
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,680
smoothness of Do Skis Amber. You can't go wrong. So

698
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,519
when the crew asked for what's next, you already know.

699
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,160
Go for the taste, go for the moment, Go for dope.

700
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:15,559
Speaker 1: No no no no no no no no no no

701
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:36,559
no no no. When you feeling in your body found

702
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,920
somebody who makes you change your way from the locker

703
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:44,000
room to the airwaves, gets off the bench with Jacob

704
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:45,359
Hester and Matt Flynn.

705
00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: Get everything in your path, won't let it go up

706
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:49,880
in there?

707
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: Nodded. Then, after all that, all right, welcome back in

708
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,200
off the bench.

709
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: Nobody wants to be.

710
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,640
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711
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712
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713
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714
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715
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716
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717
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718
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719
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720
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721
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722
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723
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nominate someone, someone in your family, someone close to you,

724
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725
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726
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727
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729
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730
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731
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732
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go see him pelicanroof dot com. All right, you'll ready

733
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:17,039
for it? Oh yeah, hell yeah, let's do it. Let's

734
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:18,440
do it. It's Wednesday. You know what that means?

735
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Speaker 5: That floater has me fired up?

736
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: Are you?

737
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:24,279
Speaker 5: Yeah? I'm going to Blinds right now. I mean Pelican roofing.

738
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,480
Wait which one did you just do?

739
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:26,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

740
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,839
Speaker 5: I'm going to Pelican.

741
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: Would you rather?

742
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: Hell?

743
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got one?

744
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: Mm? I got one right. We didn't have like a

745
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,440
little sound thing.

746
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: We don't have one for that, but I am I

747
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,640
am going to play a song under it.

748
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:42,079
Speaker 2: Okay, we don't like one of those would you other things?

749
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:44,799
Speaker 5: But we got a little song to go under.

750
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: What a rookie me? Not you? Yeah? Taylor, go ahead?

751
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:51,319
All right?

752
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:56,519
Speaker 8: In honor of spooky season, would you rather stay in

753
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:02,759
a non haunted Hells for an entire weekend or have

754
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,000
to hide from a slasher for an whole weekend?

755
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,759
Speaker 5: I basically grew up in a haunted house, so I'm

756
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:10,880
staying in the haunted house.

757
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:17,519
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, the I have stayed in some haunted houses too.

758
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:21,720
The place that we stayed at at training camp in

759
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,039
Green Bay Saint Norbert's College that the dorm that we

760
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:26,599
stayed in was haunted. I stayed in the haunteds place

761
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,559
in Buffalo some kind of like Spencer Rally and to

762
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,119
a certain extent, definitely not the go situation.

763
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 6: I feel like that's when you either have to be

764
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:36,319
all in on or not though, like I don't know

765
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,559
how you can believe in them and to some degree, yeah, and.

766
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,839
Speaker 2: Then from the like so definitely that Like I don't

767
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:43,319
want to like the chance to get murdered. You don't

768
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:45,359
think you're gonna get, you know, murdered by ghosts. You

769
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,720
might be get scared. But a slasher, if you're a slasher,

770
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:52,279
and you get the term slasher like you're pretty, you're

771
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,799
pretty brutal to you're probably a badass, like you're not

772
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:57,640
you gotta be tough, right, You're not carrying a pocket

773
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,599
knife around. You're more like acts of masshif. Yeah, fake

774
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,440
tough guys are carrying around firearms. But if you're just

775
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:07,200
a slasher, like you're bad, you're all right. But you

776
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:11,639
watched some of these slasher movies and the people running

777
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,280
from are pretty dumb. They are in the heat of

778
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,400
the moment, I get it. You make emotional decisions. Your

779
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,880
brain's not thinking correctly, but from the outside looking in,

780
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,599
real dumb decisions.

781
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 5: Very dumb.

782
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: Mich he just walks.

783
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:27,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, super fat like.

784
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,599
Speaker 2: He got a little bit more magical appears as the

785
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:31,440
movies went on to get more magical.

786
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: The.

787
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 5: More deep into the Halloween series that you.

788
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,599
Speaker 2: Get, the more like supernatural.

789
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

790
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 8: I have a theory that Michael Myers actually sprints and

791
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,719
then when people start to turn around, he walks again.

792
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: And he's off camera. Bro, he's he's high.

793
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 5: Means, what's like the fastest forty of all time?

794
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,559
Speaker 2: Believe bo Jacks. I think I think ran a four

795
00:34:58,599 --> 00:34:58,920
to one.

796
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 6: Michael Myers probably wins or runs like a three five

797
00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:03,679
or something like that.

798
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:12,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, or as like transport like, uh yeah, it's gotta

799
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:17,039
be kind of really defines physics. But we're all in agree.

800
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:19,320
In hornted house, Yeah, it's on a house.

801
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 6: Ye.

802
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 8: Would you be more scared in a hanted house that

803
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,559
you'd survive better because it's not gonna happen?

804
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:28,639
Speaker 2: But would you be more scared in the house, But

805
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:30,320
I'd be terrified for my life?

806
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:30,679
Speaker 3: Right?

807
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,119
Speaker 6: Slasher Again, I grew up in a haunted house, So

808
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:37,719
I haunted ghosts don't bother me.

809
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: I've stayed the night here. Yeah, this place is harnted.

810
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,440
So like when I was in the dorm in Green Bay,

811
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:47,480
like we were, it was there was ghost situations happening,

812
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:52,280
there's paranormal activity. Many of my close friends witnesses of it,

813
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,599
felt it right. When that situation happens, you know, you

814
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,159
just put the covers over your head, close your eyes,

815
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:02,000
ignore it, and then you're good. If you just close

816
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:05,039
your eyes Stareth Wall, what can they do?

817
00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:06,639
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's I was gonna say, like, what does

818
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,679
it really matter if there's a ghost or not.

819
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 6: You know, there's just like a spirit here chilling with me,

820
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:14,679
but it's not gonna do anything to me, so it

821
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,880
doesn't really have an effect on me. So I don't

822
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,199
really care if there's a if a house is haunted.

823
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,519
So yeah, I'm one thousand percent staying in the haunted house.

824
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,679
Speaker 2: Okay, here's a good one. Let's stick with a Halloween

825
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,000
theme coming up. Would you rather go to for fun?

826
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:31,199
Of course, go to a haunted house, a Halloween haunted house,

827
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,239
thirteenth d or whatever, or a really good corn maze?

828
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:36,760
Is the corn maze also I think like you could

829
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,039
have half of the corn maze where it's family friendly,

830
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,199
half of it haunted.

831
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,079
Speaker 5: Then corn maze.

832
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, corn maze, I'm gonna say corn maze. Corn maze

833
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:46,679
is more naturally scary. You're outside, it's a nighttime, you

834
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,079
can't really see, like you're trying to navigate your way

835
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,559
through it while being scared.

836
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:52,079
Speaker 2: Like I think, I think a corn maze is like

837
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,239
scary by itself. Yeah, so probably that. Yeah, you can

838
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,559
control the controllables a little bit more there. I feel

839
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:00,639
like in a haunted house, it's I hadn't been to

840
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,000
hotted house since like ninth grade. I went two weeks ago,

841
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:05,280
probably weeks ago.

842
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: But if we did an OTV Thirteenth Gate and film, I.

843
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:11,079
Speaker 2: Hadn't been to the UH. I hadn't been to the

844
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:15,239
thirteenth Gate since like, oh college and UH I went

845
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:15,800
two weeks ago.

846
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 5: Why do I feel like y'all made me go in

847
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:18,079
the front.

848
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: Because we would There used to be a corn maze

849
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:25,119
in bean Rouge in college that was I don't know

850
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,000
if it was out on Nicholson or was it used

851
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,920
to want to Poured Island right across the bridge. There

852
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,599
was one that wasn't across the bridge. It was maybe

853
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:34,400
it was like three or four something like that. It

854
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:36,400
was early on in my college career. Maybe it's out.

855
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,280
I thought it was out on Nicholson and it was

856
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,440
like that. It was like a pretty legit corn maze.

857
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,400
And one side was like just the maze, you'll figure

858
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,880
it out. And one side was like people with chainsaws

859
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,599
like chasing. You still got one up in pine Grove.

860
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,440
The You don't know where that is. It's close to Kentwood, Okay,

861
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:52,840
I didn't.

862
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,159
Speaker 5: Okay, here's another Halloween one.

863
00:37:58,079 --> 00:37:58,599
Speaker 2: I like this.

864
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 6: I know, would you rather turn into a scarecrow every

865
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:10,119
night or have that's constantly nesting in your hair a scarecrow? Right?

866
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so say the first one turn a scarecrow.

867
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 5: Every night every night, or have that's constantly nesting in

868
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:18,880
your hair.

869
00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 8: At least I'm something cool with his share at least

870
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,199
like yeah, because the bird's gonna land on you.

871
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well actually yeah, I want to be done. I

872
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,840
don't want to bat landing on me. At least I'm

873
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,920
averaging twelve good hours a day. I think scarecrows they

874
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,320
just chill. They're probably getting some sleep.

875
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 5: Okay, I feel like that wasn't that great?

876
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 6: So would you rather have to babysit Chucky for a

877
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,840
weekend or share a bunk bed with Pennywise.

878
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:48,599
Speaker 8: I'm babysitting Chucky. I'm gonna throw him across the room

879
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,719
repeatedly until he gives up. That's anybody ever seen the

880
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,880
movie Child's Play? It is not a horror movie.

881
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: It's hilarious. It's kind of funny. It's a hilarious movie.

882
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,360
I'm choosing. I guess I'm choosing Chucky. Ye, Anywise, Like,

883
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,800
I don't do that. I don't mess with clown sue.

884
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 5: No, clowns are so freaky to me.

885
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: Let's see Chucky open the door. He's like a foot

886
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,199
toll walking in a closet. Right, you don't have.

887
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 5: On Wolf of Wall Street where they're with the little people.

888
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you just do that to Chucky, put him

889
00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:29,039
in a bell crow suit and start throwing him at targets.

890
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:30,639
Speaker 2: And I didn't expect to bring this up, So I

891
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:32,079
don't have all like all the I don't have an

892
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:33,880
all that information like that sort of give. But did

893
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,639
y'all see that clip the guy there's this YouTuber, young

894
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,840
guy who bought like the this doll that is like

895
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:42,920
the most haunted doll.

896
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:43,679
Speaker 3: It was.

897
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: Bull. No, it's it's a well known guy, Anna Bell doll. Yeah,

898
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,360
there you go. And he had and he bought this

899
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,800
whole house with like all these haunted artifacts. And I'm like, man,

900
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,199
this dude, wait no, no, no, no, this was Matt Rife. Yeah,

901
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:01,800
I don't know who that is. He's a comedian.

902
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,119
Speaker 5: Matt rf did this insane. He bought the insane.

903
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:08,079
Speaker 8: I don't know if he bought the house. He bought

904
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,039
like the rights to the house that the dolls kept

905
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,400
in or something like that. It's it's something weird.

906
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did. He bought for like one hundred years

907
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,880
or something like or twenty years. He owns the rights

908
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,400
to it. Like that doll.

909
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,079
Speaker 5: She's creepy.

910
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: I know, M.

911
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: Just thinking about it. Yeah, sixteen Days of Halloween. All right,

912
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,920
all right, flavor, flav it was actually a fun Would

913
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,119
you really that was really good? Would you always had

914
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:40,119
to get Jake out of here? It's a tripod? All right,

915
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,920
we're gonna come back. We will close out our number two,

916
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:46,199
continue talking lsu Vandy. Obviously we did in this segment,

917
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,719
but we'll continue talking. We'll get a little game film.

918
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,079
Uh in our three we got lots left, big show

919
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where you still left right here? Off the bench, off

920
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921
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924
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925
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because he always puts me on the spot. We're gonna

926
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927
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928
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929
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930
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931
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932
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933
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934
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936
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937
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Speaker 5: We call the club is full.

938
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,599
Speaker 2: Of ballas and au and now you fellas little friends

939
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,960
because the club.

940
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,599
Speaker 5: Is jumping, jumping.

941
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,599
Speaker 1: Tigers turn talkers.

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Speaker 2: This is off the bench, all right, welcome back in

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off the bench. We are closing out our number two

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right here, and we all finally got what we want.

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Jake's out of here, driving Clafayette to talk about safety

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from the guy that didn't care about his own safety.

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What an anomaly? All right? So we talked about l

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s U Vandy and the big kind of storyline for

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me right now outside of the x's and o's, is

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that Vanderbilt is favored against LSU. I think it started

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at about a point point and a half. I think

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it's up to two and a half point favorites against

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the top ten, one loss LSU football team. What the

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hell is happening? I don't know. Vanderbilt is they got

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a a group, they got a head coach, they got

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a team that is eras tacking up, they got a

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quarterback that plays like a caveman and Taylor Landra. Can

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y'all tell me when the last time LSU was or

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Vandy was favored against LSU.

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Speaker 8: Never it's gotta be like seventies eighties or the nineteen

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ninety game they won nineteen forty eight.

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Speaker 2: This was my next guest was nineteen forty eight was

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the last time Vanderbilt was favored against the LSU fighting tires,

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So seventy seven since seventy seven years, and of course

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we said it earlier. Vandy has not beaten LSU since

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nineteen ninety. So I kind of thought it'd be fun

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to take a trip down memory lane and take a

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look at what else in the world and in sports

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was happening in nineteen forty eight, the last time Vandy

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was favored against LSU. All right, we're gonna start with

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just kind of the world. The state of Israel was proclaimed,

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first year of it State of Israel. Nineteen forty eight,

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Gandhi was assassinated, the Indian leader famous North Year, Big Year,

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it's a big year for nineteen forty eight, North and

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South Korea were established as separate nations. So the last

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time Vandy was favored was when North and South Korea

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were established. They were just Korea. Also, the People's Republic

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of China was also founded. The first Porsche car was created,

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the first bar.

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Speaker 4: And Harry S.

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Speaker 2: Truman won a surprise victory in the US presidential electioning

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he defeated Thomas E. Dewey. Hello, and then in sports,

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let's go away from I like that. Yeah you see.

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June twenty fifth, at New York's Yankee Stadium, Joe Lolis

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knocked out Jersey Joe Walcott in the eleventh round to

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retain his heavyweight title for the twenty fifth time. How

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about that twenty five times? The defendit time. The Cleveland

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Indians defeat the Boston Braves four games. The two four

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went out the Great Mambino Babe Ruth Askaway nineteen forty eight.

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I know the horse citation becomes the eighth horse to

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win the Triple Crown. How about that citation? Very famous,

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and the horse racing community. I'd have dabbled in a

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few bets there, and then they grew. Golfer Ben Hogan

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wins two majors, wins the PGA Championship in the US Open.

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So the last time Bandy was favored over Elis Shoe,

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America was a real country, still had the paper boys

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with their paper boy hats, and people said, yeah, you see,

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join us our three, We'll talk some more sports.

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Speaker 1: Off the bench,