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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Some surprising news out of out of ESPN the Four

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<v Speaker 2>Letter Network. They have fired and I guess laid off

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<v Speaker 2>is probably the better way to describe this this move,

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<v Speaker 2>but they have moved on from Robert Griffin third RG

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<v Speaker 2>three and Sam Ponder, who I feel like Sam Ponder

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<v Speaker 2>has been there forever. You know, she used to be

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<v Speaker 2>involved in college in college football coverage, and then she

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<v Speaker 2>made the move to being I think the host of

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<v Speaker 2>the ESPN NFL pregame show on Sundays, and she was

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<v Speaker 2>let go and no reasons were given, at least not

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<v Speaker 2>from what I can see here. But at Awful Announcing,

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<v Speaker 2>they're citing a report from the athletics Andrew marchand that

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<v Speaker 2>they fired both Griffin and Ponder. The moves are considered

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<v Speaker 2>to be budgetary and are the only two layoffs expected

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<v Speaker 2>at this time. So there's a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>probably just a coincidence, and I mean that sincerely. I

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<v Speaker 2>have learned to not be so dismissive of potential conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>theories as I get older, But this came just a

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<v Speaker 2>day after he went on because RG three. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if he handles his social media, but if he does,

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<v Speaker 2>props to him because he gets a ton of engagement

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<v Speaker 2>and he's good at putting stuff out that gets a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of engagement, which is what you want on social

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<v Speaker 2>media this day and age. But it's not looked at

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<v Speaker 2>as like it was clearly just something for attention, although

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<v Speaker 2>he did randomly one day just throw out, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>who you taken in the election this fall, Biden or Trump? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, man, you know what you're doing. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of funny. But yeah, so you know, his elon checks

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<v Speaker 2>from myzation or probably pretty big. But some are saying

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<v Speaker 2>that like this move had something to do with what

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<v Speaker 2>he tweeted yesterday and what he said was actually not

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<v Speaker 2>going to read the whole thing, but he criticized anybody

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<v Speaker 2>still mocking Florida State for being snubbed from last season's

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<v Speaker 2>college football playoff, and some took those comments as a

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<v Speaker 2>thinly veiled shot at ESPN and Paul Finbaum, who had

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<v Speaker 2>done you know who had done just that the day

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<v Speaker 2>before on his show, like still mocking Florida State for

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<v Speaker 2>you know, feeling as if they were worthy of being there,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you got to wonder like Paul Finbaum.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be clear, he's a honk for the SEC. That's

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<v Speaker 2>quite literally, like his his purpose, his role for the

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<v Speaker 2>Four Letter Network. And you know, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>get really what the appeal is in regards to fine Baum,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't. I don't find him to be entertaining

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<v Speaker 2>or interesting. But hey, that doesn't mean I'm a hater.

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<v Speaker 2>I got respect for this guy who's probably making more

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<v Speaker 2>money a year than I'll ever make in this business.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's got a huge following and does well, so

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to him out college football coverage. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like RG three has been involved in the

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<v Speaker 2>college football coverage a little bit more in recent years,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think he does a pretty good job. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I actually feel like RG three was was a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good analyst, but he has been he's been let go

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<v Speaker 2>and then Sam Ponder and I think most recently she'd

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<v Speaker 2>been doing a lot of a lot of NFL stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, anyways, it's our number two coffee and company,

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<v Speaker 2>hour in the books. We got a couple more to go,

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<v Speaker 2>and we are gonna get the second hour started. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got company. It's the one. It's the only, mister

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<v Speaker 2>kent Spencer from w h as eleven can. I'll start

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<v Speaker 2>with a rapid fire question. What's your favorite thing about

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<v Speaker 2>the Kentucky State Fair?

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<v Speaker 3>The Crispy Creme donut cheeseburger.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's legit?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, no, no, I've never tried it. You feel

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<v Speaker 3>like you're gonna have a heart attack afterwards, But man,

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<v Speaker 3>is it's so nice going down.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to me, it just it sounds like such

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<v Speaker 2>a rich food item to where like I would take

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<v Speaker 2>a bite and feel like, okay, that's enough. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>clearly popular. I don't remember when it debuted, but it is,

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<v Speaker 2>I think consistently for many many years now, been one of,

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<v Speaker 2>if not the most talked about food item at the

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky State Fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and let me tell you something. It's not like

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<v Speaker 3>I go to the State Fair every year, but when

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<v Speaker 3>I go, I have one of those things. So I've

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<v Speaker 3>only probably had three or four in my life, but

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<v Speaker 3>thoroughly enjoyed it every time.

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<v Speaker 4>Good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm such a plain jain when it comes to like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have the palette of a toddler.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I eat chicken, chicken wings, a burger like I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't really mix it up a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot with food. I'm trying to try different things as

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<v Speaker 2>I get older, but like a lot of the State

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<v Speaker 2>Fair food is just a little much for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an old fashioned, Kentucky proud pulled pork sandwich kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing wrong with that. But every now and then,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it feels good to spread your wings and

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<v Speaker 3>get weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I might have to do that this time around,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, the it smells heavenly, not just the

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<v Speaker 2>burger with the doughnut as the bun, but like all

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<v Speaker 2>the Fair food. Man, it just it's it smells amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, first day of the ki Oreo cookie. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>that that sounds like a cavity, That's what it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm sure it is very, very very tasty. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So you covered it on on Saturday post the first

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<v Speaker 2>scrimmage for Louisville football camp. It was, you know, first

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<v Speaker 2>time they were able to actually get out there and

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<v Speaker 2>replicate as best you can during camp what a real

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<v Speaker 2>game situation is. I just wanted to get your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on Jeff Brahm's comments. I don't think he was too

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<v Speaker 2>high too low, but he did make it pretty clear

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<v Speaker 2>throughout his post his post practice interview that he wants

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<v Speaker 2>to see more playmakers emerge. Is that just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how much do you think that's just a coach trying

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to tell guys, hey, you know, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to have his you know, we got to keep getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>Or do you think maybe he is a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he's a little surprised that he hasn't seen more

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<v Speaker 2>guys emerge as you know, playmakers as he says.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it may be a little bit of both.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he definitely wants his guys to he he

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<v Speaker 3>wants this group because if you kind of look at

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<v Speaker 3>this group, you know, what have they really done in

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<v Speaker 3>a Louisville uniform. So don't don't rest on anything that

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<v Speaker 3>you have or you think you're gonna get or anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that. Like you got to continue to push, you

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<v Speaker 3>got to continue to work, and those things can happen

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<v Speaker 3>for you. So you know, for him, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I think, you know, especially with you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're still several weeks out before they played their first game,

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<v Speaker 3>you definitely want to keep pushing, you know. You you

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<v Speaker 3>praise when you need to praise, but you you want

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<v Speaker 3>your players to still have the pedal on the gas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think just just an observation for me

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<v Speaker 2>as we are still early in this new era of

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<v Speaker 2>college sports with the portal and within I l I

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<v Speaker 2>think talking season, which is what we're in right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously they are practicing, but you know, we haven't. We've

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<v Speaker 2>aust at a lot of the different talking points and

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<v Speaker 2>now we're just you know, anxious and eager for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for for for real football. But I think because you

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<v Speaker 2>just haven't. Like, there's gonna be examples on every side,

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<v Speaker 2>right A guy who transferred in that had high expectations

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<v Speaker 2>but it didn't work out, a guy who transferred in

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<v Speaker 2>that you didn't expect much of and he was great,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, no matter what I think, for the

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<v Speaker 2>next ten years, there's going to be different cases that

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<v Speaker 2>tell you you really don't have a clue, which you

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<v Speaker 2>have when you are reliant so much on the portal

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<v Speaker 2>to where I feel like a lot of folks have

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of chalked it up as, look, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see when we get here, right, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like we're in a different world now whenever

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<v Speaker 2>you could look and see, Okay, they bring back ninety

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<v Speaker 2>percent of their starters and that team is pretty damn good,

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<v Speaker 2>so they should take a step up. I think now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think fans have just kind of realized,

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<v Speaker 2>these from these dudes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and look and talking season, it starts at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of July, and sometimes that actually, you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>it can it could start really in the in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle part of July, to be quite honest with you,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you know, it lasts until the first game.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, you're only projecting, You're only trying to

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<v Speaker 3>predict what these guys are going to do. You know. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Louisville opens up you know quite of actually,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when it comes to you know, Power five

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<v Speaker 3>schools and mean, Louisill opens up a lot of practices.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say it was anywhere from like six

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<v Speaker 3>to eight practices they opened up in fall in fall

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<v Speaker 3>camp specifically, you know, kind of at the beginning where

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<v Speaker 3>fans and media could go and watch them and you

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<v Speaker 3>get you can you can glit a glimpse or a

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<v Speaker 3>snapshot of what somebody you know can do on a

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<v Speaker 3>particular play, but it's not the same as a flow

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<v Speaker 3>of the game. I mean, I remember last year, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we thought Jamari Thrash was going to be good,

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<v Speaker 3>but you don't really know until you actually saw it

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<v Speaker 3>in the first game because you need to see it

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<v Speaker 3>against somebody else. And and man, he was really good

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<v Speaker 3>against Georgia Tech. And he was really good from that

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<v Speaker 3>that forard that point on until you know he got

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<v Speaker 3>banked up and hurt and was much less of a factor. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the coaches at times probably have had a

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<v Speaker 2>newcomer come in from the portal and they're really really

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<v Speaker 2>loving what they see, but they kind of maybe hesitate

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<v Speaker 2>to really know. Okay, maybe I'm maybe maybe there's some

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there's some newness here that I'm getting really intrigued by.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I need to remind myself that, hey, this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>coming from I'll give you an example. This isn't even football,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know when Carleigue Jones got to u of

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<v Speaker 2>L during his one season they were thinking, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy might be like really really really good, but then

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<v Speaker 2>they were hesitant, Okay, well, maybe it's because of who

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<v Speaker 2>he's playing against it on our team. Maybe it's because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we just haven't had a dynamic guard like

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<v Speaker 2>ended up being better than they ended up thinking. So

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<v Speaker 2>you really, you know, you really never know. But I

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<v Speaker 2>just think as a coach, and we talked about this

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<v Speaker 2>last week, just how the job has changed so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, again not to make it a pity party

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<v Speaker 2>for these coaches, because you know they're they're very well compensated,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, making adjustments and things changing is not

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<v Speaker 2>that uncommon in every day life for people in their job.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I feel like that would be wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>that be a real thing that would weigh on your

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<v Speaker 2>complete roll of the dice with maybe forty to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of your guys you're throwing out there in your

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look, some guys could give you a really good

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<v Speaker 3>athleticism and physicality, and you know, you try to do

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<v Speaker 3>so you have a decent you know, so you have

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<v Speaker 3>a decent idea. But you know, whether it may be

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<v Speaker 3>off of each other? You know all of that. To

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<v Speaker 3>let's be honest with you, there there are highly talented

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<v Speaker 3>freshmen and how many have we seen at local programs

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<v Speaker 3>over the years, and on signing day they are going

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel like that's happened more often than

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<v Speaker 2>the other way around. I feel like some of the

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<v Speaker 2>some of the bigger names during that signing day period

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, it was a big get, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like more often than not, those guys end

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<v Speaker 2>up either being you know, good but nowhere near expectation,

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<v Speaker 2>or they just don't get on the field and leave.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, and like you know, and look freshman coming in.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that that's a crapshoot transfers, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>believe you're getting a little better of a known product

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<v Speaker 3>when they're coming in. And that's why I think so

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<v Speaker 3>many people are trying to take advantage of it. And

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<v Speaker 3>you probably see, to be quite honest with you, you

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<v Speaker 3>probably see more of those guys pan out than not.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's one of the that's one of the reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you know, when you look at what

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of years, they they've gone transfer heavy. And

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<v Speaker 3>I just think that if they feel like they have

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<v Speaker 3>a need and they can get it by a by

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<v Speaker 3>a proven somewhat proven commodity, that they would much rather

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<v Speaker 3>take the chance on that than the unprovend did come

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<v Speaker 3>out of high school and you never really know how

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<v Speaker 3>that person's going to develop.

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<v Speaker 2>No I, and I think, I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>continue to see more and more coaches go that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go that route. Maybe some will have bad results and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe mix it up. And No, I I think if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to win now, and you know, hey, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got some an IL money aside, and and it's pay

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<v Speaker 2>for play quite clearly, and we've got this need, let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's go get it done. I think, you know, over

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<v Speaker 2>the next few years, you'll get it. You'll get a

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<v Speaker 2>sense of who really you know, which which way each

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<v Speaker 2>coach really he is going to try to make it

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<v Speaker 2>work in this new world of college athletics. But Ken

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<v Speaker 2>Spencer's our guest. You're joining us on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked, you know, I know there's as we just

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<v Speaker 2>have discussed the last five minutes or so, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much unknown now. But what are you hearing in regards

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<v Speaker 2>to what Kentucky has a quarterback? Brock Vandergriff of course,

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<v Speaker 2>was behind some really good quarterbacks at Georgia, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best teams, if not the best team in the

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<v Speaker 2>country in the last few years collectively. But now he's

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<v Speaker 2>at Kentucky. Obviously he's going to be their starter, a

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<v Speaker 2>really highly ranked recruit. Again, it's all we all know

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a lot of unknown here. But are you

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<v Speaker 2>getting any kind of a sense as to what they

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they have Do they feel like they maybe

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<v Speaker 2>got better at that position post Devin Leary?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what, to be quite honest with you,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, they opened up their first practice,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, of media day, and then they had their

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<v Speaker 3>fan day, but they haven't really had any open practices

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<v Speaker 3>since then. I get the sense, you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of positive talk about him, but generally speaking, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't hear negative. Sure, yeah, and you haven't heard. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes if a guy, if an offensive coordator, feels like

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<v Speaker 3>his starter needs to be pushed, he'll put something out

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<v Speaker 3>there that you know, he kind of fires a shot

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<v Speaker 3>across the bow, so to speak. This guy needs to

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<v Speaker 3>this guy needs to take a step forward. Bush Hampden

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<v Speaker 3>has not done that. It makes you think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they really have liked what they've seen as long as

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's probably playing in the confines of the offense.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it hurts that trip train them. They're running

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<v Speaker 3>back that they got from Ohio State that was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be their starter. He's got a hand injury. They

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<v Speaker 3>say he's going to be out for the foreseeable future.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that probably doesn't help a new quarterback that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be starting in the SEC for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know how long he'll be out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>they got Southern miss in their first week, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's like that must win game. They have

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<v Speaker 3>South Carolina in week two, and you know, oftentimes it's

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<v Speaker 3>those kind of games that really kind of make break

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<v Speaker 3>their season because you know, look, eventually, you know, on

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<v Speaker 3>this on their schedule, they've got Georgia, They've got you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Tennessee, They've got Texas. You know, they like those games,

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<v Speaker 3>they just keep coming. And so the games that you

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<v Speaker 3>could win, those fifty to fifty type games, you really

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<v Speaker 3>need to win those games and put them in your

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<v Speaker 3>favor or it's going to be a long year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no doubt. I can't remember a Kentucky schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>not that I have all of them, you know, fresh

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind, where you know, within the first couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks, a game that really does kind of get

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<v Speaker 2>you know, are you going to be closer to maybe

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<v Speaker 2>an eight and four, You're going to be closer to

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<v Speaker 2>a six and six. That South Carolina game is certainly

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<v Speaker 2>a big factor. One more question in regards to to

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<v Speaker 2>this Kentucky team. Again, a lot of it will depend

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<v Speaker 2>on how Vandergriff does and how the offensive line holds up.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know these two receivers did have a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a let down season last year with some

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<v Speaker 2>drops and just really expectations were really high after a

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<v Speaker 2>sensational freshman campaign from both Barry and Brown and Dane Key.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are two guys that I still believe just from

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<v Speaker 2>a talent person, like at any moment, if they if

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<v Speaker 2>they take over a game with with you know, big

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<v Speaker 2>time plays, like, I think those guys are as far

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<v Speaker 2>as talent. Again, you got to you gotta get results,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to prove it, and they have at times.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think those guys are special. I think Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>in a way like they've got two weapons there that

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<v Speaker 2>if if Brock granted, if brog grant Vandergriff is is

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<v Speaker 2>you know, even have to be Georgia level, great, But

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<v Speaker 2>if he's serviceable and he gets protection, Like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>those guys could be primed for a big bounce back year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I couldn't agree with you more. And here's what

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<v Speaker 3>I would say about those two guys going into last year.

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<v Speaker 3>They were the ones doing the talking. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, like, oh yeah, they were the ones

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<v Speaker 3>that talked about how great they were going to be

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<v Speaker 3>and how good they were going to be. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think the expectation or their assumption that they were just

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<v Speaker 3>automatically going to take that next step and make that jump,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that bit them a little bit. Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, you actually did see Brown and Key

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<v Speaker 3>play much better towards.

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<v Speaker 2>The end of the season against lolle.

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<v Speaker 3>Well and and and they they both played well against Clemson,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not even just Loull, you know, I mean obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of settled down a little bit and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know what pressing at the end of.

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<v Speaker 3>The season, and they and they started to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>live up to the hype that they created for themselves

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<v Speaker 3>towards the end of the season. And so I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really anxious to see because it really seems like they

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<v Speaker 3>have they have had a much more grounded mindset coming

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<v Speaker 3>to this year, and if that's the case, then they

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<v Speaker 3>have a chance to both be really good and guess

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<v Speaker 3>what that would be just a huge best friend for

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<v Speaker 3>that for Brock Randogriff. A new quarterback coming in and

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<v Speaker 3>you got guys that if you throw in to them,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to find a way to make a play

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<v Speaker 3>come down for you man, that just for a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just a confidence builder right there.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt, it's growth, it's it's you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's of you know, going through growing pains. They'd made

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<v Speaker 2>enough plays early on to where they did generate I

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<v Speaker 2>think buzz that was worthy. As you mentioned, they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing a little bit of the talking, probably getting a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit caught up in that hype that was there,

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<v Speaker 2>and they didn't deliver right away. Some losses took, some

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<v Speaker 2>losses hit, and then I think they were having some

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<v Speaker 2>drops that you know, maybe some of it was on quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were probably overthinking it for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>maybe in their careers. Football players. These are guys that

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<v Speaker 2>were like, oh wow, you know, the hype was there,

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<v Speaker 2>and now I'm not delivering. They're probably overthinking it some,

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<v Speaker 2>which is leading to some drops and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I those are two guys that like HiPE

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<v Speaker 2>buzz whatever word you want to use. I would never

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<v Speaker 2>be surprised if they go off and take over a

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<v Speaker 2>game because I mean, they've got the talent, especially Barry

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<v Speaker 2>and Brown. I mean that, I mean some of the

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<v Speaker 2>plays he made as a freshman, and then again, as

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned later in the year, that guy's got the talent.

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<v Speaker 2>And Dane Key, I mean you could you could you

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<v Speaker 2>could say the same about him. I think it's there

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't been as much chatter about those two guys because

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<v Speaker 2>it just didn't hit for them last year. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>I will not be somebody that's ever surprised when those

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<v Speaker 2>guys make big plays. They're they're that good.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll say that, and this is honestly, like as

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<v Speaker 3>much as we talk about both both programs and the

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<v Speaker 3>sexy talk is always about quarterback, wide receiver, running back, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But man, does it start with the guys up front

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<v Speaker 3>in the trenches. I mean you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, you know, they don't get talked about now.

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<v Speaker 2>They get talked about when a play doesn't doesn't work right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they don't get any of the preseason chatter. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not sexy talk, as you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 3>So so when you have a hole that you can

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<v Speaker 3>drive a semi through, the running back gets the credit,

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<v Speaker 3>not the dudes who opened the hole that you could

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<v Speaker 3>drive a semi through, You know what I mean? Sure

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<v Speaker 3>and so, but but for both teams, you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>all have both programs. They have question marks up front.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, how is you know, how's Louisville going to

421
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<v Speaker 3>replace a guy like Brian Hudson and some of those

422
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<v Speaker 3>other guys up front? You know, can they do it?

423
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<v Speaker 3>Can they run the ball? Can they protect Tyler Shuck?

424
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<v Speaker 3>We'll see. Can Kentucky get back to be in the

425
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<v Speaker 3>big Blue wall because it's a great nickname. But you know,

426
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<v Speaker 3>at some point, remember the thing Nebraska has the black Shirts?

427
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<v Speaker 2>Right, I can give you, I can give you a

428
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<v Speaker 2>better one. Do you remember Louisville's the worst defense in

429
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<v Speaker 2>Power five history called themselves? Was it No Fly Zone

430
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<v Speaker 2>or the tax Boys?

431
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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

432
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<v Speaker 2>My god, it was the tax Boys, wasn't it? Do

433
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<v Speaker 2>you remember this at all? My refreshing your memory? Whenever

434
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<v Speaker 2>the Louoisvelles guys did a lot of talking and then

435
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<v Speaker 2>they were terrible. Is that what we're looking at the

436
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<v Speaker 2>blue wall potentially.

437
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but like and you know, Nebraska forever they were

438
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<v Speaker 3>still handing out these black shirts for their defensive line.

439
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they were terrible.

440
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<v Speaker 3>And so the thing about it is is like, yeah,

441
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<v Speaker 3>it's a nickname. It's a cool nickname when it works.

442
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<v Speaker 3>But you got to be able to get back to that.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have some self awareness.

444
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<v Speaker 3>Got to start off front.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you, all right, one more question here,

446
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<v Speaker 2>I'll put you on the spot. This is just something

447
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<v Speaker 2>I found to be interesting. In eighteen the last twenty seasons,

448
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<v Speaker 2>a preseason top ten team has finished unranked at the

449
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<v Speaker 2>end of the season. Who would you say has the

450
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<v Speaker 2>best chance of being that team? Georgia, O High State, Oregon, Texas, Alabama,

451
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<v Speaker 2>Old Miss, Notre Dame, Penn State, Michigan, Florida State. I

452
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<v Speaker 2>think you actually have a few different candidates here that

453
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<v Speaker 2>I could see with a scenario where they're not ranked.

454
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<v Speaker 2>But of those ten, and I know I just threw

455
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<v Speaker 2>them at you rapid fire there, who stands out if

456
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<v Speaker 2>you think, okay, yeah, won't be shocked if they're unranked

457
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<v Speaker 2>when we get to the end of November.

458
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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's there's something that tells me as I as,

459
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<v Speaker 3>I'm just kind of glossing over this thing and looking

460
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<v Speaker 3>at it right now. My two top candidates would be

461
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<v Speaker 3>I actually have to My three top candidates would be

462
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<v Speaker 3>old miss Notre Dame in Penn State.

463
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<v Speaker 2>I could see it. I could see it, no doubt

464
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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame is one for me, and I don't I

465
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<v Speaker 2>don't know enough about their personnel, but I just I

466
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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I feel like that doesn't it feel like

467
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<v Speaker 2>this is the year where everybody you know takes a

468
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<v Speaker 2>side here. Either Marcus Freeman's the guy for Notre Dame

469
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<v Speaker 2>or maybe his days are numbered. I just kind of

470
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<v Speaker 2>feel like he's been just good enough to where the

471
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<v Speaker 2>chatter hasn't started that he's you know, that he's in trouble.

472
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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like if they go to they go

473
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<v Speaker 2>to College Station for the first game of the season

474
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<v Speaker 2>at A and M. I kind of feel like if

475
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<v Speaker 2>if they if they don't win, that I think you'll

476
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<v Speaker 2>start to hear some more noise about maybe Notre Dame

477
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<v Speaker 2>made the wrong decision.

478
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, And look, to be quite honest with you,

479
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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually gonna walk the notor I'm actually gonna walk

480
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<v Speaker 3>the Notre Dame thing back. I just I just took

481
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<v Speaker 3>a look at their schedule. They're gonna they're gonna find

482
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<v Speaker 3>a way to stay in the top twe it's.

483
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<v Speaker 2>Their weakest schedule in a long time. I just saw

484
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<v Speaker 2>that the other day.

485
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll go with old mister pent State. I think

486
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<v Speaker 3>one of those, one of those two teams out of

487
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<v Speaker 3>the top ten will probably, if it happens, one of

488
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<v Speaker 3>those two teams will not will not be ranked.

489
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<v Speaker 2>Good stuff as always can't appreciate the time. I'm going

490
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<v Speaker 2>to the fair with my kids on Saturday afternoon. I'm

491
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<v Speaker 2>gonna do it. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be

492
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna branch out and be a little bit more,

493
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<v Speaker 2>you know, open to trying new things. I'm gonna have

494
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<v Speaker 2>the doughnut burger for you.

495
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<v Speaker 3>I can't let me tell you something. I cannot wait

496
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<v Speaker 3>to hear the report. I think you're gonna thoroughly enjoy

497
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<v Speaker 3>it and then feel like you need to do a

498
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<v Speaker 3>cleant afterwards.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Good stuff, man, appreciate you can't hiba all right, that's

500
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<v Speaker 2>kid Spencer from WHAS eleven always appreciate its time. Good

501
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<v Speaker 2>stuff there. Yeah, Notre Dame. I will say this, everything

502
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<v Speaker 2>I said about Marcus Freeman I totally stand by. But

503
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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad he brought up their schedule because I saw

504
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<v Speaker 2>because I've always defeated Notre Dame, they actually for not

505
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<v Speaker 2>playing in a conference. People just assume they play nobody.

506
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<v Speaker 2>They usually have a pretty good schedule. This year not

507
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<v Speaker 2>as much, which of course will benefit will benefit Marcus Freeman,

508
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<v Speaker 2>but it also could really expose him too if they

509
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<v Speaker 2>have more losses than people are expecting. All right, quick break,

510
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<v Speaker 2>We will come back on the other side. Talk a

511
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<v Speaker 2>little more Louisville hoops, because you know, John Rostein was

512
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<v Speaker 2>just a complete clown for where he put Louisville in

513
00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:44.000
<v Speaker 2>his preseason ACC rankings. The Athletic the you know, I'm

514
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<v Speaker 2>only saying this because they're more high on Louisville. They

515
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<v Speaker 2>have a new ranking out that I want to take

516
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<v Speaker 2>a look at that I think is a little more

517
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<v Speaker 2>legit as you could expect. And also the G five

518
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<v Speaker 2>are they reading the room. They're gonna meet collectively and

519
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<v Speaker 2>talk about their own college football postseason, which isn't so

520
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<v Speaker 2>surprising if you think about it. So stick with Us're

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<v Speaker 2>about how there it's Coffee and Company fuel about Thorton's

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<v Speaker 2>and Chris Brown, not Tiger Tiger. That's right, t Yga

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff here, all right, it's Coffee and Company speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of good stuff. That's us, Nick, Coffee, the company man,

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<v Speaker 2>mister John all on alongside today and we are fueled

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<v Speaker 2>about Thornton's. Appreciate you guys hanging out with us. Also

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate Ken Spencer for making time for us like he

529
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<v Speaker 2>usually does. Good conversation there. If you guys missed it,

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<v Speaker 2>be sure to check out the podcast. We'll have it

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<v Speaker 2>up once the show comes to an end. Five ver

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<v Speaker 2>two sixty five three zero seven ninety is the Llenn

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of the show, participate contribute. And this

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<v Speaker 2>text says, Nick, you said it earlier, and I think

536
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<v Speaker 2>you're spot on. I am starting to be a little

537
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<v Speaker 2>worried as to why we're not hearing more about Tyler Shuck.

538
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<v Speaker 2>You would think with brom having a quarterback that, as

539
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<v Speaker 2>he said, can make the offense a little more vertical,

540
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<v Speaker 2>that there'd be a little bit more love for him.

541
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<v Speaker 2>Well again, what are you looking for when you say love?

542
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<v Speaker 2>I mean I've not heard anybody say, hey, I'm I mean,

543
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<v Speaker 2>it's easy to forget this because this era of the

544
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>calendar as a college football fan is forgotten. Every year

545
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<v Speaker 2>I'll remind you, like if stuff's coming out of camp,

546
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<v Speaker 2>it's usually bad news. Like you don't want to be

547
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<v Speaker 2>making news during fall camp because it's usually bad. And like,

548
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<v Speaker 2>for example, you know Kentucky they're running back kent mention it,

549
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<v Speaker 2>Chip train them. That's the guy who I feel like

550
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<v Speaker 2>is called on to be the next not the next

551
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<v Speaker 2>Ray Davis. Ray Davis is pretty good in the grand

552
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<v Speaker 2>scheme of things, but like he's the guy that is

553
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<v Speaker 2>to fill that role and he's hurt, broke his hand,

554
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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna miss the first few games for them. That's

555
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<v Speaker 2>certainly problematic. And as far as the next guy up

556
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<v Speaker 2>at running back for them, I mean, I don't even

557
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<v Speaker 2>know who would be. I mean, I'm looking at their

558
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<v Speaker 2>depth chart, and you know, I'm not as familiar with

559
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:53.079
<v Speaker 2>their personnel as I am Louisvill's obviously, but I don't

560
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<v Speaker 2>even know who any of these guys are. So anyways,

561
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<v Speaker 2>like I don't think you're hearing anything about I'll put

562
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<v Speaker 2>it this way. I don't think you're not hearing things

563
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<v Speaker 2>about Tyler Shuck because they're worried about him. I think

564
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<v Speaker 2>I'll put it this way. I think Tyler Shuck if

565
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<v Speaker 2>you put a you know, a lot of tector equipment

566
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<v Speaker 2>on Jeff Brahm, he would tell you that he believes,

567
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<v Speaker 2>and maybe he would say he knows that he has

568
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<v Speaker 2>a better arm to work with than what he did

569
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<v Speaker 2>last year with Jack Plumber. But I can also tell

570
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<v Speaker 2>you that he probably expected I don't know. Maybe I

571
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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't put I shouldn't speak for Jeff and his staff,

572
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<v Speaker 2>but I wouldn't put it this way. I wouldn't be

573
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<v Speaker 2>shocked if they told you they did expect to have

574
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<v Speaker 2>better quarterback play than what they got from Plumber. But

575
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<v Speaker 2>with Plumber it was weird man like, he didn't have

576
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<v Speaker 2>a terrible arm. He didn't. I mean, in fact, this

577
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<v Speaker 2>may this may sound uh, this may sound crazy, but

578
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<v Speaker 2>there was a little bit of Jack Plumber in Malie Cunningham.

579
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<v Speaker 2>I know what you're thinking, What the hell are you

580
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<v Speaker 2>talking about, you idiot? They were nothing alike. Yeah, Mollie

581
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:04.119
<v Speaker 2>clearly made his plays mostly with his with his legs now.

582
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<v Speaker 2>But at times he could make throws, like he would

583
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<v Speaker 2>make a throw every now and then we are like, damn,

584
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<v Speaker 2>why can't you do that more often? That was a

585
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:15.039
<v Speaker 2>needle like that was that was perfect and you know

586
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.359
<v Speaker 2>then the next series out he couldn't throw a five

587
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>yard pass that seemed to be the easiest pass that

588
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>he'd have all day. So, like, what separates guys from

589
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 2>being like good enough or good to where you can

590
00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:31.000
<v Speaker 2>be a strength of the team is consistency. And you

591
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.279
<v Speaker 2>also have to keep in mind if you're inconsistent as

592
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<v Speaker 2>a quarterback with your arm, and on one day you

593
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<v Speaker 2>can make the throws, on the next day, you can't.

594
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<v Speaker 2>As a play caller, what do you do? You don't

595
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<v Speaker 2>know what you're gonna get, right, Like, okay, let me

596
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<v Speaker 2>dial this up, But like are we going to get

597
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<v Speaker 2>the good arm or the bad arm that we see

598
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<v Speaker 2>here and there? So with all that said, back to

599
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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Shuck, I just think with Jeff, like, you know,

600
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<v Speaker 2>he's not a First of all, he's not gonna come

601
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<v Speaker 2>out and gas up his quarterback. So I've heard nothing

602
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 2>but good things about Shuck. That doesn't mean that like

603
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<v Speaker 2>he's going to be the acc player of the ear.

604
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<v Speaker 2>But it really is just a wait and see situation,

605
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<v Speaker 2>you know. I'll put it this way. Shuck enters his

606
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<v Speaker 2>career at Louisville with better credentials than Jack Plumber did.

607
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<v Speaker 2>It all just comes down to how healthy can can

608
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<v Speaker 2>he stay? And only time will tell. But I do

609
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<v Speaker 2>think it wasn't a quinn, It wasn't just a random

610
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<v Speaker 2>thing he put in there. I think you know, Jeff

611
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<v Speaker 2>wanted it out there that they don't intend to utilize

612
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<v Speaker 2>him the way with his legs, the way that Texas

613
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<v Speaker 2>Tech and Oregon did with Shuck. Now they're gonna have

614
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<v Speaker 2>a package in there to where he could be utilized

615
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:38.039
<v Speaker 2>on the ground, and he could be serviceable in that role.

616
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<v Speaker 2>But you also have to know this guy's fractual. You

617
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:42.440
<v Speaker 2>got to keep him safe, so you know. To answer

618
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:44.039
<v Speaker 2>your question, I guess you didn't really have a question,

619
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<v Speaker 2>more of a comment. To respond to your comment, I wouldn't.

620
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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't take it that you not hearing that he's

621
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<v Speaker 2>killing it in practice as a sign that maybe he's

622
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>not going to be good enough. I think Plumber made

623
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<v Speaker 2>it to where fans are going to be a little

624
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<v Speaker 2>more hesitant to just expect a transfer quarterback to come

625
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<v Speaker 2>in and give you good results. So put it this way,

626
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<v Speaker 2>and this sounds so mean. I don't think he could

627
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<v Speaker 2>be worse than Jack Plumber, right, And I say that

628
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:14.200
<v Speaker 2>knowing that Plumber did make plays that helped you win

629
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.839
<v Speaker 2>games at times. He also a place that made you

630
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:18.440
<v Speaker 2>feel like you were going to lose a game that

631
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 2>you had no business losing at times. So I just

632
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.000
<v Speaker 2>hope you get consistency. And look, if you go back

633
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:24.720
<v Speaker 2>and look at all the quarterbacks that Jeff has coached

634
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>as a head coach, I think Jeff made them in

635
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 2>times look a lot better than they actually were, just

636
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.920
<v Speaker 2>because of who he is as a play caller and

637
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>as an offensive guru. Plumber was weird, man like, it

638
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 2>was just weird how that worked out, because Plumber couldn't

639
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:49.559
<v Speaker 2>make himself look good, and you know, it's just it

640
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 2>is bizarro. Jeff Brohm to know that last year they

641
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.279
<v Speaker 2>went ten and three, ten and four, I guess in

642
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:59.319
<v Speaker 2>the end after the Bowl loss, and they did not

643
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>have really any true consistent participation from the from the

644
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 2>tight end position. And I say that knowing that, yes,

645
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Nate Kriski last year made some plays and even Joey

646
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Gatewood caught a couple of touchdowns. Like those guys were

647
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:12.240
<v Speaker 2>on the field. I don't want act as if they

648
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:14.359
<v Speaker 2>didn't play with the position of a tight end last year,

649
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>but it was not a factor. And usually Jeff Brohm

650
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>really can can get a balanced attack going and then

651
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:23.319
<v Speaker 2>just carve you up with his tight ends being you know,

652
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:27.279
<v Speaker 2>available and you know, making big plays. So the quarterback

653
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:29.359
<v Speaker 2>kept it to where you really had to rely on

654
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>and really take full advantage of two great running backs

655
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>in Garrindo and Jordan, and you didn't really use the

656
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.480
<v Speaker 2>tight ends and you didn't really go vertical downfield like

657
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 2>it was a good year, in fact, a really good

658
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:41.039
<v Speaker 2>year in the grand scheme of things. Ten win seasons

659
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.799
<v Speaker 2>don't happen that often around here. But the way they

660
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:46.759
<v Speaker 2>got there was just a little weird. All right, Let's

661
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>go back to the text on five OO two six

662
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 2>five three zero seven ninety. That is the number if

663
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<v Speaker 2>you want to give us. If you want a text end,

664
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<v Speaker 2>you can fibo two six five three zero seven ninety.

665
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>The L and N Federal Credit Union text line fallons

666
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:58.799
<v Speaker 2>are open as well. Five O two five to seven

667
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 2>to one seventy nine hundred. This text is from somebody

668
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:05.559
<v Speaker 2>who at one point has has told us their name

669
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>was Tom, because that's what I saved it at in

670
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 2>our text line here. But Tom writes and says, Nick,

671
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm not as worried about the win total. I think

672
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>ten is unrealistic this year. If they get any lower

673
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.519
<v Speaker 2>than eight, I'll be disappointed. But for me, if they

674
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:24.279
<v Speaker 2>get eight or nine and one of those wins is

675
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:28.839
<v Speaker 2>Clemson or Kentucky, I'll say it was a good season. Well, Tom,

676
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>if you say it, then we all say it. But

677
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that's fair. Like I understand that mindset, right, Like,

678
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe ten wins is a little bit harder to do,

679
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 2>just because again, the schedule. I'm not going to present

680
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>it as some daunting schedule that you just, you know,

681
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:46.640
<v Speaker 2>you're crying yourself to sleep at night, worried about who

682
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to play, because it's not that. But

683
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 2>it is better than what was on the slate a

684
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:54.559
<v Speaker 2>year ago. So, you know, SMU, let's say, like you're

685
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:59.119
<v Speaker 2>replacing SMU with let's see here, let me pull up

686
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.400
<v Speaker 2>the schedule because I'm not ready to say that they're

687
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:03.319
<v Speaker 2>going to come in here and be you know, one

688
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>of the top three teams in the in the ACC.

689
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:07.960
<v Speaker 2>But maybe I'm wrong, maybe they will be. I just look,

690
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:11.920
<v Speaker 2>nobody's talking about the fact that they lost to Boston

691
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 2>College in a bowl game last year coming off of

692
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>what was a really special season for them. Like I

693
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>just I don't know, Like I can't have a hard

694
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>time ignoring that, Like that didn't like that wasn't somewhat

695
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>of a somewhat of a test there to see where

696
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 2>they stand against a program in the ACC that really

697
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>wasn't good. So, you know, Louisville this year, instead of

698
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.200
<v Speaker 2>playing n C State, who by the way, ended up

699
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.559
<v Speaker 2>being pretty good, you know, they've got Stanford instead of

700
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:45.079
<v Speaker 2>playing uh, Virginia Tech, who they don't play right, Yeah,

701
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:48.720
<v Speaker 2>instead of playing Virginia Tech, they now have you know, Clemson,

702
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Like clearly you're playing a better team in Clemson instead

703
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>of playing Let's see, I'm trying to see how many

704
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:56.759
<v Speaker 2>repeat opponents they had. I guess the only the only

705
00:32:56.799 --> 00:33:00.079
<v Speaker 2>teams on their schedule last year in ACC play that

706
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.720
<v Speaker 2>aren't there this year is Duke in, Virginia Tech and

707
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:09.000
<v Speaker 2>n C State. So with that, again, you've replaced Duke

708
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:13.359
<v Speaker 2>in C State and who is the other one I

709
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>mentioned va Tech, Yeah, and vaw Tech. So you've added SMU,

710
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:26.519
<v Speaker 2>Stanford and Clemson. So I mean, I don't know. I

711
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.480
<v Speaker 2>feel like Clemson alone means that you have a tougher

712
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 2>schedule because they're usually the winner of this league. They're

713
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>a top fifteen right now. But Stanford should suck really

714
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:38.079
<v Speaker 2>bad if we're being honest. And Simus kind of a

715
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:39.960
<v Speaker 2>wild card. So you got rid of Duke, who is

716
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, clearly starting over with Manny Diaz and va Tech, who,

717
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:48.039
<v Speaker 2>by the way, is viewed to be one of the

718
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:50.240
<v Speaker 2>surprise teams, right, Like, I think VA Tech were ay

719
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>right behind.

720
00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.039
<v Speaker 4>Louisville, and they were at the end of the year.

721
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Last year, they were right behind Louisville. Also in the

722
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:58.759
<v Speaker 2>preseason rankings, for whatever that's worth, right, it was Florida State, Clemson,

723
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.119
<v Speaker 2>n C State, Miami, Louisville. That I'm pretty sure is

724
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 2>how the preseason rankings came down. So you know, if

725
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Louisville ends up with eight or nine, like, let me

726
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:11.159
<v Speaker 2>cause not when you only play twelve games, not every

727
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:13.360
<v Speaker 2>record is the same, is that if that makes sense?

728
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Right?

729
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Like, not every seven and five is the same thing.

730
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Not every eight and four is the same thing, because

731
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I feel like when you are Louisville and you don't

732
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 2>have a schedule that features, you know, six to seven

733
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 2>ranked teams like some ACC and Big ten teams will face.

734
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.320
<v Speaker 2>If you get to eight and four, I kind of

735
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 2>feel like you need to have one of those wins,

736
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:33.719
<v Speaker 2>be one that was notable. And last year you knocked

737
00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:35.039
<v Speaker 2>off Notre Dame and that at the end of the

738
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:36.679
<v Speaker 2>year didn't look as good as it did at the time,

739
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's still still mattered. It's still a good win,

740
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:43.599
<v Speaker 2>no doubt. But if you look at Louisville schedule from

741
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>top to bottom, and now I'm looking at like there

742
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 2>are tiers here, let's start with the games you should

743
00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:55.079
<v Speaker 2>just win, like there's no real conversation. You should win Stanford,

744
00:34:55.639 --> 00:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Austin p Jacksonville State, Georgia Tech, and Virginia and Pittsburgh.

745
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Like that's six games Austin p Jacksonville State. And I

746
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:11.920
<v Speaker 2>know Georgia Tech is believed to be better than a

747
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:13.440
<v Speaker 2>year ago, and they did have a good year last

748
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 2>year with Brent Pry and they ended up being a

749
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 2>bowl team and all that, but like little at home,

750
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.960
<v Speaker 2>first real test, they should win. If Louisville is anything

751
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 2>anything close to what we think to, we can circle

752
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech on September twenty first and say, no, you

753
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 2>should win that game. So those are your first three

754
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>games that you should You should just win. Like you

755
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>may lose, maybe something crazy happens, but like nobody can

756
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 2>be scared as a Louisville fan that embraces expectations and

757
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:39.239
<v Speaker 2>say we should not be undefeated when we play Notre Dame.

758
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:44.320
<v Speaker 2>So six games, those first three. I'm throwing Virginia in

759
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>there because they stink and they're going to be the

760
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.559
<v Speaker 2>worst team in the league. Maybe Boston College, I mean,

761
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 2>same situation. I mean I know they've they've you know

762
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.800
<v Speaker 2>they've they've made some changes to their staff and whatnot,

763
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:58.280
<v Speaker 2>and you know they got that quarterback everybody likes. But still, again,

764
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 2>if Louisville is who we think they can, if love

765
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:02.039
<v Speaker 2>was even close to who think they are, these are

766
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.480
<v Speaker 2>games you should win. So I'll start over again. Austin

767
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>p Jacksonville State, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Boston College, Stanford, and

768
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Pitt did I li seven? I can't Countford, Yeah that's seven.

769
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>So if you lose any of those games. It's not

770
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:24.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a crazy thing because one Louisville always seems

771
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 2>to lose a game you shouldn't have lost, and let's

772
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 2>be honest, Jeff, unfortunately, and look we can say it.

773
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:33.199
<v Speaker 2>He says it himself like he knows what's out there about. Hey,

774
00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.159
<v Speaker 2>he can win these big games, he's proven that. But man,

775
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.480
<v Speaker 2>he'll turn around and lose to a nobody. So like

776
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:43.480
<v Speaker 2>the other five games, you've got Georgia Tech, SMU, Miami,

777
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Clemson in Kentucky, I'm gonna go with two tiers here,

778
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 2>games that you are expected to lose but you know

779
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 2>you can win. I would say that is I mean

780
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:00.960
<v Speaker 2>at Notre Dame is still gonna be a game they're

781
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 2>not expected to win. At Clemson still a game they're

782
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 2>not expected to win. Miami is a is a game

783
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:11.320
<v Speaker 2>they could easily lose at home. But given that they

784
00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 2>beat them there last year and they are at home

785
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:16.599
<v Speaker 2>this year and again Louisville should be better in my opinion. Again,

786
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 2>that's a game like to me, that's the ultimate coin

787
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:23.760
<v Speaker 2>flip game, like they could go anyway, right, So you're

788
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.079
<v Speaker 2>not going to be expected to win Clemson in Notre Dame.

789
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:29.639
<v Speaker 2>But if you do, hell yeah, and then when it

790
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:31.679
<v Speaker 2>comes down to Miami, I put them as the ultimate

791
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:36.440
<v Speaker 2>coin flow. And then with you know, with with Kentucky,

792
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't really know what to do because I mean,

793
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.039
<v Speaker 2>let's be real, it shouldn't be looked at as some

794
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.199
<v Speaker 2>super tall task to go in and beat them in Lexington.

795
00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:49.639
<v Speaker 2>But you couldn't beat them last year. They seem to

796
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 2>no matter what, be ready to go in that game.

797
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:55.400
<v Speaker 2>They got your number, and they're gonna have confidence, like

798
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:57.639
<v Speaker 2>they can now come into that game having a very

799
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:01.599
<v Speaker 2>underwhelming season, just like they did last year, not feel

800
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.320
<v Speaker 2>great about themselves, but feel good knowing, hey, we got

801
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the get right game coming up. We got Louisville. And

802
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:08.480
<v Speaker 2>I hate that they were able to view it that way,

803
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:12.679
<v Speaker 2>but they can, and it's just right like they last

804
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:16.119
<v Speaker 2>year was the ultimate game, where like you better get

805
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:18.280
<v Speaker 2>them because they're down. They don't even have any confidence.

806
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Their coach is telling their fans to pay more money.

807
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was no life to Kentucky football when

808
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 2>that game happened last year. And then they showed up

809
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 2>and they won and it was a punch in the gut.

810
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 2>So I'm leaving that one alone, Like I think fans

811
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 2>should still be able to look at that and say, yeah,

812
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>we expect to win, because look, this isn't sadderfield football.

813
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Bram's a winner. He's proven that hedn't be Kentucky,

814
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:40.360
<v Speaker 2>and I know he's probably been bothered by that more

815
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 2>than anybody. But that's the tier. You've got seven games

816
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>that you just should win. You can lose to anybody,

817
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>we know that, but seven games where if you take

818
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 2>care of business, you win, and then you have two

819
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 2>that you're not supposed to win, but if you do,

820
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>hell yeah, that's at Clemson, an at Notre Dame, and

821
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>then you know from there, it's who's the two that

822
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:05.599
<v Speaker 2>I've left off? Miami and SMU is the team I

823
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 2>knew I was forgetting a team SMU. I put them

824
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 2>in the same thing with Miami. They're not ranked like

825
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Miami is. They're clearly a team that's getting some respect.

826
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.760
<v Speaker 2>But you should win, like you could lose. It's a

827
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:23.599
<v Speaker 2>more losable game than you know, hosting Pittsburgh. But yeah,

828
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I think if you're eight and four, nine and three,

829
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:30.079
<v Speaker 2>to me, I think it really depends on who those

830
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:32.079
<v Speaker 2>wins were and who those losses, because again, I know

831
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:34.119
<v Speaker 2>some people can just say, look, they're nine and three.

832
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:36.280
<v Speaker 2>What do you want? It's nine and three, and you're

833
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<v Speaker 2>right about that. But at the same point in time,

834
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<v Speaker 2>like who you beat matters. And that's why I was

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<v Speaker 2>so crazy to me that Scott Saturdayfield could never really

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<v Speaker 2>break through and win eight regular season games, because there

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<v Speaker 2>were like three seasons where he could have won eight

838
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.360
<v Speaker 2>regular season games, been eight and four going into a ballgame,

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<v Speaker 2>and he would at the end of the year actually

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<v Speaker 2>not have a win. That was all that impressive. Wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been his fault, Right, you can only play who

842
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<v Speaker 2>was on your schedule. But anyways, quick break will come

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<v Speaker 2>back on the other side, wrap of the four o'clock hour.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing rolling along, it's coffee and company. We are

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<v Speaker 2>feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 4>I know this song.

847
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<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't. I mean, I'm like humming along that.

848
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know any of the words. Who is this?

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<v Speaker 4>This is Candlebox with far behind?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, look at this a known song, right? People know this? Right?

851
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<v Speaker 4>Their biggest hit back in the mid nineties. I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Good vibes, good vibes, all right, So we'll get a

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<v Speaker 2>little more into this on the five o'clock hour, But

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<v Speaker 2>I continue to see more and more stories out there

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<v Speaker 2>in regards to this Group of five commissioners meeting that's

856
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<v Speaker 2>going to take place next week. I believe in Texas

857
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<v Speaker 2>and it's taught. It's in regards to a potential reshaped

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<v Speaker 2>G you know, group of five. G five is what

859
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<v Speaker 2>I call them postseason where they kind of have their

860
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<v Speaker 2>own playoff. Some have even said n it of college football,

861
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<v Speaker 2>which I'm curious, like, I don't know, like I feel

862
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<v Speaker 2>like doing that, you are confirming what everybody already says

863
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<v Speaker 2>about you, but yet everybody knows it's true. Like it's

864
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<v Speaker 2>clearly a big There's a big difference right in playing

865
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<v Speaker 2>in a G five league and playing in a power

866
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<v Speaker 2>forward being a dominant in a dominant independent like Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>When I say dominant, I just mean, you know, they

868
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<v Speaker 2>cannot be in a conference and still break in a

869
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<v Speaker 2>ton of money. I mean they're a national program, they

870
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<v Speaker 2>really are. But anyways, it's a part of me that

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<v Speaker 2>if I am somebody like a Boise or a like,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the most likely G five successful program moving forward? Like, gosh,

873
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<v Speaker 2>it's tough to say, but like, is it Boise Memphis,

874
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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know, maybe there's a Sun Belt team that, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like a lot of the really good ones

876
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<v Speaker 4>recently jumped to the Big twelve.

877
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, I mean Cincinnati, Central Florida, Houston BYU Houston.

878
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<v Speaker 2>So you know, maybe Nevada is in Nevada actually pretty good? Yeah, basketball,

879
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:57.760
<v Speaker 2>theyre pretty No, they're not Nevada. I don't think it's

880
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.239
<v Speaker 2>good now, but yeah, a Mountain West team like oh,

881
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.800
<v Speaker 2>like San Diego State. Yeah, but I feel like all

882
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<v Speaker 2>these programs were mentioning you know, you're you're It really

883
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<v Speaker 2>just is a year by year thing, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the only of all the programs we've thrown out there,

885
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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the one that has for the most

886
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<v Speaker 2>part been good or really good for who they are

887
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<v Speaker 2>consistently is Boise State. Like maybe they're going to be

888
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<v Speaker 2>the consistent team that does get that spot as the

889
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<v Speaker 2>one G five. So if if you're them, I would say, look,

890
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<v Speaker 2>you know, we know what we can do, Like we've

891
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<v Speaker 2>played in BCS Bowl games before when that existed to

892
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<v Speaker 2>where I don't know, I just feel like if you

893
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<v Speaker 2>have your own it will further speed up the powerful

894
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<v Speaker 2>people within the college football playoff to make it quite

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<v Speaker 2>clear you're not involved, you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Out, you know what I mean? It makes sense like

897
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<v Speaker 4>it'll almost be another like you have the FBS and

898
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<v Speaker 4>the fcs. You almost have to have a middle tier

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<v Speaker 4>for the G five.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you also, you know that could be a big

901
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<v Speaker 2>revenue thing. Though, is this other playoff that is for

902
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<v Speaker 2>you to where and you need that? So like, no,

903
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<v Speaker 2>there's way more that would go into than I would

904
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<v Speaker 2>ever know. But I just feel like if you're fighting

905
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<v Speaker 2>to let people know, hey, yeah we're we don't have

906
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<v Speaker 2>the resources of the power for and we don't have

907
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<v Speaker 2>you know, the tradition, but man, you give us a

908
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<v Speaker 2>chance to get in that playoff, We're going to show

909
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<v Speaker 2>you where who we are. I think by doing this

910
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<v Speaker 2>it kind of creates a little bit more of a

911
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<v Speaker 2>of a scenario to where they could say, well, look,

912
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<v Speaker 2>you already have you know, you kind of confirmed that

913
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<v Speaker 2>you aren't you aren't one of us. But then again,

914
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<v Speaker 2>you're only doing that because you know for a fact

915
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<v Speaker 2>that you're only going to get one team in every year.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, we got another hour to go, five o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>hours coming up next A lot more to get into,

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<v Speaker 2>so stick with us. We'll get back to the text line.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk a little more about the Kentucky State Fair. Let

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<v Speaker 2>you know just how bad John Rostein was a putting

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<v Speaker 2>together a SEC rankings because the athletic has put out

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<v Speaker 2>the official rankings because they make Louisville look better. Who

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<v Speaker 2>else knows, whoever, who knows? What else we'll get into.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and company. Feel about Thorton's right here on

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety