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Speaker 2: Some surprising news out of out of ESPN the Four
Speaker 2: Letter Network. They have fired and I guess laid off
Speaker 2: is probably the better way to describe this this move,
Speaker 2: but they have moved on from Robert Griffin third RG
Speaker 2: three and Sam Ponder, who I feel like Sam Ponder
Speaker 2: has been there forever. You know, she used to be
Speaker 2: involved in college in college football coverage, and then she
Speaker 2: made the move to being I think the host of
Speaker 2: the ESPN NFL pregame show on Sundays, and she was
Speaker 2: let go and no reasons were given, at least not
Speaker 2: from what I can see here. But at Awful Announcing,
Speaker 2: they're citing a report from the athletics Andrew marchand that
Speaker 2: they fired both Griffin and Ponder. The moves are considered
Speaker 2: to be budgetary and are the only two layoffs expected
Speaker 2: at this time. So there's a little bit of a
Speaker 2: probably just a coincidence, and I mean that sincerely. I
Speaker 2: have learned to not be so dismissive of potential conspiracy
Speaker 2: theories as I get older, But this came just a
Speaker 2: day after he went on because RG three. I don't
Speaker 2: know if he handles his social media, but if he does,
Speaker 2: props to him because he gets a ton of engagement
Speaker 2: and he's good at putting stuff out that gets a
Speaker 2: lot of engagement, which is what you want on social
Speaker 2: media this day and age. But it's not looked at
Speaker 2: as like it was clearly just something for attention, although
Speaker 2: he did randomly one day just throw out, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: who you taken in the election this fall, Biden or Trump? Like,
Speaker 2: come on, man, you know what you're doing. It's kind
Speaker 2: of funny. But yeah, so you know, his elon checks
Speaker 2: from myzation or probably pretty big. But some are saying
Speaker 2: that like this move had something to do with what
Speaker 2: he tweeted yesterday and what he said was actually not
Speaker 2: going to read the whole thing, but he criticized anybody
Speaker 2: still mocking Florida State for being snubbed from last season's
Speaker 2: college football playoff, and some took those comments as a
Speaker 2: thinly veiled shot at ESPN and Paul Finbaum, who had
Speaker 2: done you know who had done just that the day
Speaker 2: before on his show, like still mocking Florida State for
Speaker 2: you know, feeling as if they were worthy of being there,
Speaker 2: and you know, you got to wonder like Paul Finbaum.
Speaker 2: Let's be clear, he's a honk for the SEC. That's
Speaker 2: quite literally, like his his purpose, his role for the
Speaker 2: Four Letter Network. And you know, I don't I don't
Speaker 2: get really what the appeal is in regards to fine Baum,
Speaker 2: Like I don't. I don't find him to be entertaining
Speaker 2: or interesting. But hey, that doesn't mean I'm a hater.
Speaker 2: I got respect for this guy who's probably making more
Speaker 2: money a year than I'll ever make in this business.
Speaker 2: And he's got a huge following and does well, so
Speaker 2: shout out to him out college football coverage. I mean,
Speaker 2: I feel like RG three has been involved in the
Speaker 2: college football coverage a little bit more in recent years,
Speaker 2: and I think he does a pretty good job. Like
Speaker 2: I actually feel like RG three was was a pretty
Speaker 2: good analyst, but he has been he's been let go
Speaker 2: and then Sam Ponder and I think most recently she'd
Speaker 2: been doing a lot of a lot of NFL stuff.
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Speaker 2: kent Spencer from w h as eleven can. I'll start
Speaker 2: with a rapid fire question. What's your favorite thing about
Speaker 2: the Kentucky State Fair?
Speaker 3: The Crispy Creme donut cheeseburger.
Speaker 4: So it's legit?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, I've never tried it. You feel
Speaker 3: like you're gonna have a heart attack afterwards, But man,
Speaker 3: is it's so nice going down.
Speaker 2: I mean to me, it just it sounds like such
Speaker 2: a rich food item to where like I would take
Speaker 2: a bite and feel like, okay, that's enough. But it's
Speaker 2: clearly popular. I don't remember when it debuted, but it is,
Speaker 2: I think consistently for many many years now, been one of,
Speaker 2: if not the most talked about food item at the
Speaker 2: Kentucky State Fair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let me tell you something. It's not like
Speaker 3: I go to the State Fair every year, but when
Speaker 3: I go, I have one of those things. So I've
Speaker 3: only probably had three or four in my life, but
Speaker 3: thoroughly enjoyed it every time.
Speaker 4: Good stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm such a plain jain when it comes to like,
Speaker 2: I have the palette of a toddler.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I eat chicken, chicken wings, a burger like I'm pretty
Speaker 2: you know, I don't really mix it up a whole
Speaker 2: lot with food. I'm trying to try different things as
Speaker 2: I get older, but like a lot of the State
Speaker 2: Fair food is just a little much for me. I'm
Speaker 2: an old fashioned, Kentucky proud pulled pork sandwich kind of guy.
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that. But every now and then,
Speaker 3: you know, it feels good to spread your wings and
Speaker 3: get weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I might have to do that this time around,
Speaker 2: because you know, the it smells heavenly, not just the
Speaker 2: burger with the doughnut as the bun, but like all
Speaker 2: the Fair food. Man, it just it's it smells amazing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, first day of the ki Oreo cookie. Oh
Speaker 2: that that sounds like a cavity, That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure it is very, very very tasty. All right.
Speaker 2: So you covered it on on Saturday post the first
Speaker 2: scrimmage for Louisville football camp. It was, you know, first
Speaker 2: time they were able to actually get out there and
Speaker 2: replicate as best you can during camp what a real
Speaker 2: game situation is. I just wanted to get your thoughts
Speaker 2: on Jeff Brahm's comments. I don't think he was too
Speaker 2: high too low, but he did make it pretty clear
Speaker 2: throughout his post his post practice interview that he wants
Speaker 2: to see more playmakers emerge. Is that just you know,
Speaker 2: how much do you think that's just a coach trying
Speaker 2: to continue to tell guys, hey, you know, we got
Speaker 2: to have his you know, we got to keep getting better.
Speaker 2: Or do you think maybe he is a little bit
Speaker 2: maybe he's a little surprised that he hasn't seen more
Speaker 2: guys emerge as you know, playmakers as he says.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it may be a little bit of both.
Speaker 3: I think he definitely wants his guys to he he
Speaker 3: wants this group because if you kind of look at
Speaker 3: this group, you know, what have they really done in
Speaker 3: a Louisville uniform. So don't don't rest on anything that
Speaker 3: you have or you think you're gonna get or anything
Speaker 3: like that. Like you got to continue to push, you
Speaker 3: got to continue to work, and those things can happen
Speaker 3: for you. So you know, for him, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I think, you know, especially with you know,
Speaker 3: we're still several weeks out before they played their first game,
Speaker 3: you definitely want to keep pushing, you know. You you
Speaker 3: praise when you need to praise, but you you want
Speaker 3: your players to still have the pedal on the gas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think just just an observation for me
Speaker 2: as we are still early in this new era of
Speaker 2: college sports with the portal and within I l I
Speaker 2: think talking season, which is what we're in right now.
Speaker 2: Obviously they are practicing, but you know, we haven't. We've
Speaker 2: aust at a lot of the different talking points and
Speaker 2: now we're just you know, anxious and eager for you know,
Speaker 2: for for for real football. But I think because you
Speaker 2: just haven't. Like, there's gonna be examples on every side,
Speaker 2: right A guy who transferred in that had high expectations
Speaker 2: but it didn't work out, a guy who transferred in
Speaker 2: that you didn't expect much of and he was great,
Speaker 2: or you know, no matter what I think, for the
Speaker 2: next ten years, there's going to be different cases that
Speaker 2: tell you you really don't have a clue, which you
Speaker 2: have when you are reliant so much on the portal
Speaker 2: to where I feel like a lot of folks have
Speaker 2: just kind of chalked it up as, look, we're going
Speaker 2: to see when we get here, right, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like we're in a different world now whenever
Speaker 2: you could look and see, Okay, they bring back ninety
Speaker 2: percent of their starters and that team is pretty damn good,
Speaker 2: so they should take a step up. I think now,
Speaker 2: you know, I think fans have just kind of realized,
Speaker 2: we have no clue what we're going to get from
Speaker 2: these from these dudes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look and talking season, it starts at the
Speaker 3: end of July, and sometimes that actually, you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: it can it could start really in the in the
Speaker 3: middle part of July, to be quite honest with you,
Speaker 3: and then you know, it lasts until the first game.
Speaker 3: So you know, you're only projecting, You're only trying to
Speaker 3: predict what these guys are going to do. You know. Now,
Speaker 3: you know, Louisville opens up you know quite of actually,
Speaker 3: you know, when it comes to you know, Power five
Speaker 3: schools and mean, Louisill opens up a lot of practices.
Speaker 3: I want to say it was anywhere from like six
Speaker 3: to eight practices they opened up in fall in fall
Speaker 3: camp specifically, you know, kind of at the beginning where
Speaker 3: fans and media could go and watch them and you
Speaker 3: get you can you can glit a glimpse or a
Speaker 3: snapshot of what somebody you know can do on a
Speaker 3: particular play, but it's not the same as a flow
Speaker 3: of the game. I mean, I remember last year, like
Speaker 3: you know, we thought Jamari Thrash was going to be good,
Speaker 3: but you don't really know until you actually saw it
Speaker 3: in the first game because you need to see it
Speaker 3: against somebody else. And and man, he was really good
Speaker 3: against Georgia Tech. And he was really good from that
Speaker 3: that forard that point on until you know he got
Speaker 3: banked up and hurt and was much less of a factor. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the coaches at times probably have had a
Speaker 2: newcomer come in from the portal and they're really really
Speaker 2: loving what they see, but they kind of maybe hesitate
Speaker 2: to really know. Okay, maybe I'm maybe maybe there's some
Speaker 2: maybe there's some newness here that I'm getting really intrigued by.
Speaker 2: Maybe I need to remind myself that, hey, this guy's
Speaker 2: coming from I'll give you an example. This isn't even football,
Speaker 2: but I know when Carleigue Jones got to u of
Speaker 2: L during his one season they were thinking, Okay, this
Speaker 2: guy might be like really really really good, but then
Speaker 2: they were hesitant, Okay, well, maybe it's because of who
Speaker 2: he's playing against it on our team. Maybe it's because
Speaker 2: you know, we just haven't had a dynamic guard like
Speaker 2: this in a while. And sure enough, you know, he
Speaker 2: ended up being better than they ended up thinking. So
Speaker 2: you really, you know, you really never know. But I
Speaker 2: just think as a coach, and we talked about this
Speaker 2: last week, just how the job has changed so much.
Speaker 2: I mean, again not to make it a pity party
Speaker 2: for these coaches, because you know they're they're very well compensated,
Speaker 2: and you know, making adjustments and things changing is not
Speaker 2: that uncommon in every day life for people in their job.
Speaker 2: But you know, I feel like that would be wouldn't
Speaker 2: that be a real thing that would weigh on your
Speaker 2: mind you're a football guy, like if you're a coach,
Speaker 2: and like you really have like you know, it's a
Speaker 2: complete roll of the dice with maybe forty to fifty
Speaker 2: percent of your guys you're throwing out there in your
Speaker 2: first string because it's just you know, we'll see, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, I know there's always been a level of
Speaker 2: like you never know what you're going to get, but
Speaker 2: it's just different now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, some guys could give you a really good
Speaker 3: indicator and practice with their you know, they're with their
Speaker 3: athleticism and physicality, and you know, you try to do
Speaker 3: the best you can of studying these guys on tape,
Speaker 3: so you have a decent you know, so you have
Speaker 3: a decent idea. But you know, whether it may be
Speaker 3: a wide receiver or a quarterback, what are they going
Speaker 3: to do in your system? You know, how are they
Speaker 3: going to you know, how are they going to interact
Speaker 3: with their teammates? How how are they going to play
Speaker 3: off of each other? You know all of that. To
Speaker 3: be quite honest with you, I mean, you get a
Speaker 3: little bit of a good indication in practice, but sometimes, man,
Speaker 3: when the stadiums are full and that music's blaring, sometimes
Speaker 3: everything changes and you just hope when those things are
Speaker 3: in place that those guys can deliver. And so you know, like,
Speaker 3: let's be honest with you, there there are highly talented
Speaker 3: freshmen and how many have we seen at local programs
Speaker 3: over the years, and on signing day they are going
Speaker 3: to be the best thing since slice bread. You never
Speaker 3: hear from them again.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like that's happened more often than
Speaker 2: the other way around. I feel like some of the
Speaker 2: some of the bigger names during that signing day period
Speaker 2: where you know, it was a big get, you know,
Speaker 2: I feel like more often than not, those guys end
Speaker 2: up either being you know, good but nowhere near expectation,
Speaker 2: or they just don't get on the field and leave.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, and like you know, and look freshman coming in.
Speaker 3: You know that that's a crapshoot transfers, you know, you
Speaker 3: believe you're getting a little better of a known product
Speaker 3: when they're coming in. And that's why I think so
Speaker 3: many people are trying to take advantage of it. And
Speaker 3: you probably see, to be quite honest with you, you
Speaker 3: probably see more of those guys pan out than not.
Speaker 3: And that's one of the that's one of the reasons.
Speaker 3: And I think you know, when you look at what
Speaker 3: Jeff Bromm and Louis wore a building, you know, these
Speaker 3: last couple of years, they they've gone transfer heavy. And
Speaker 3: I just think that if they feel like they have
Speaker 3: a need and they can get it by a by
Speaker 3: a proven somewhat proven commodity, that they would much rather
Speaker 3: take the chance on that than the unprovend did come
Speaker 3: out of high school and you never really know how
Speaker 3: that person's going to develop.
Speaker 2: No I, and I think, I think you're going to
Speaker 2: continue to see more and more coaches go that, you know,
Speaker 2: go that route. Maybe some will have bad results and
Speaker 2: maybe mix it up. And No, I I think if
Speaker 2: you want to win now, and you know, hey, I've
Speaker 2: got some an IL money aside, and and it's pay
Speaker 2: for play quite clearly, and we've got this need, let's
Speaker 2: let's go get it done. I think, you know, over
Speaker 2: the next few years, you'll get it. You'll get a
Speaker 2: sense of who really you know, which which way each
Speaker 2: coach really he is going to try to make it
Speaker 2: work in this new world of college athletics. But Ken
Speaker 2: Spencer's our guest. You're joining us on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: We talked, you know, I know there's as we just
Speaker 2: have discussed the last five minutes or so, there's so
Speaker 2: much unknown now. But what are you hearing in regards
Speaker 2: to what Kentucky has a quarterback? Brock Vandergriff of course,
Speaker 2: was behind some really good quarterbacks at Georgia, one of
Speaker 2: the best teams, if not the best team in the
Speaker 2: country in the last few years collectively. But now he's
Speaker 2: at Kentucky. Obviously he's going to be their starter, a
Speaker 2: really highly ranked recruit. Again, it's all we all know
Speaker 2: that there's a lot of unknown here. But are you
Speaker 2: getting any kind of a sense as to what they
Speaker 2: feel like they have Do they feel like they maybe
Speaker 2: got better at that position post Devin Leary?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, to be quite honest with you,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, they opened up their first practice,
Speaker 3: you know, of media day, and then they had their
Speaker 3: fan day, but they haven't really had any open practices
Speaker 3: since then. I get the sense, you know, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of positive talk about him, but generally speaking, you
Speaker 3: don't hear negative. Sure, yeah, and you haven't heard. You know,
Speaker 3: sometimes if a guy, if an offensive coordator, feels like
Speaker 3: his starter needs to be pushed, he'll put something out
Speaker 3: there that you know, he kind of fires a shot
Speaker 3: across the bow, so to speak. This guy needs to
Speaker 3: this guy needs to take a step forward. Bush Hampden
Speaker 3: has not done that. It makes you think that, you know,
Speaker 3: they really have liked what they've seen as long as
Speaker 3: you know, he's probably playing in the confines of the offense.
Speaker 3: I think it hurts that trip train them. They're running
Speaker 3: back that they got from Ohio State that was going
Speaker 3: to be their starter. He's got a hand injury. They
Speaker 3: say he's going to be out for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 3: You know, that probably doesn't help a new quarterback that's
Speaker 3: going to be starting in the SEC for the first time.
Speaker 3: So I don't know how long he'll be out. I mean,
Speaker 3: they got Southern miss in their first week, and then
Speaker 3: you know it's like that must win game. They have
Speaker 3: South Carolina in week two, and you know, oftentimes it's
Speaker 3: those kind of games that really kind of make break
Speaker 3: their season because you know, look, eventually, you know, on
Speaker 3: this on their schedule, they've got Georgia, They've got you know,
Speaker 3: the Tennessee, They've got Texas. You know, they like those games,
Speaker 3: they just keep coming. And so the games that you
Speaker 3: could win, those fifty to fifty type games, you really
Speaker 3: need to win those games and put them in your
Speaker 3: favor or it's going to be a long year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt. I can't remember a Kentucky schedule,
Speaker 2: not that I have all of them, you know, fresh
Speaker 2: in my mind, where you know, within the first couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, a game that really does kind of get
Speaker 2: you know, are you going to be closer to maybe
Speaker 2: an eight and four, You're going to be closer to
Speaker 2: a six and six. That South Carolina game is certainly
Speaker 2: a big factor. One more question in regards to to
Speaker 2: this Kentucky team. Again, a lot of it will depend
Speaker 2: on how Vandergriff does and how the offensive line holds up.
Speaker 2: But I know these two receivers did have a little
Speaker 2: bit of a let down season last year with some
Speaker 2: drops and just really expectations were really high after a
Speaker 2: sensational freshman campaign from both Barry and Brown and Dane Key.
Speaker 2: Those are two guys that I still believe just from
Speaker 2: a talent person, like at any moment, if they if
Speaker 2: they take over a game with with you know, big
Speaker 2: time plays, like, I think those guys are as far
Speaker 2: as talent. Again, you got to you gotta get results,
Speaker 2: you got to prove it, and they have at times.
Speaker 2: But I think those guys are special. I think Kentucky
Speaker 2: in a way like they've got two weapons there that
Speaker 2: if if Brock granted, if brog grant Vandergriff is is
Speaker 2: you know, even have to be Georgia level, great, But
Speaker 2: if he's serviceable and he gets protection, Like, I think
Speaker 2: those guys could be primed for a big bounce back year.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I couldn't agree with you more. And here's what
Speaker 3: I would say about those two guys going into last year.
Speaker 3: They were the ones doing the talking. Yeah, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, like, oh yeah, they were the ones
Speaker 3: that talked about how great they were going to be
Speaker 3: and how good they were going to be. And I
Speaker 3: think the expectation or their assumption that they were just
Speaker 3: automatically going to take that next step and make that jump,
Speaker 3: I think that that bit them a little bit. Sure.
Speaker 3: And you know, you actually did see Brown and Key
Speaker 3: play much better towards.
Speaker 2: The end of the season against lolle.
Speaker 3: Well and and and they they both played well against Clemson,
Speaker 3: you know, not even just Loull, you know, I mean obviously,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: They kind of settled down a little bit and and
Speaker 2: you know what pressing at the end of.
Speaker 3: The season, and they and they started to kind of
Speaker 3: live up to the hype that they created for themselves
Speaker 3: towards the end of the season. And so I'm I'm
Speaker 3: really anxious to see because it really seems like they
Speaker 3: have they have had a much more grounded mindset coming
Speaker 3: to this year, and if that's the case, then they
Speaker 3: have a chance to both be really good and guess
Speaker 3: what that would be just a huge best friend for
Speaker 3: that for Brock Randogriff. A new quarterback coming in and
Speaker 3: you got guys that if you throw in to them,
Speaker 3: they're going to find a way to make a play
Speaker 3: come down for you man, that just for a quarterback,
Speaker 3: that's just a confidence builder right there.
Speaker 2: No doubt, it's growth, it's it's you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: it's of you know, going through growing pains. They'd made
Speaker 2: enough plays early on to where they did generate I
Speaker 2: think buzz that was worthy. As you mentioned, they were
Speaker 2: doing a little bit of the talking, probably getting a
Speaker 2: little bit caught up in that hype that was there,
Speaker 2: and they didn't deliver right away. Some losses took, some
Speaker 2: losses hit, and then I think they were having some
Speaker 2: drops that you know, maybe some of it was on quarterback,
Speaker 2: but they were probably overthinking it for the first time
Speaker 2: maybe in their careers. Football players. These are guys that
Speaker 2: were like, oh wow, you know, the hype was there,
Speaker 2: and now I'm not delivering. They're probably overthinking it some,
Speaker 2: which is leading to some drops and things like that.
Speaker 2: But no, I those are two guys that like HiPE
Speaker 2: buzz whatever word you want to use. I would never
Speaker 2: be surprised if they go off and take over a
Speaker 2: game because I mean, they've got the talent, especially Barry
Speaker 2: and Brown. I mean that, I mean some of the
Speaker 2: plays he made as a freshman, and then again, as
Speaker 2: you mentioned later in the year, that guy's got the talent.
Speaker 2: And Dane Key, I mean you could you could you
Speaker 2: could say the same about him. I think it's there
Speaker 2: hasn't been as much chatter about those two guys because
Speaker 2: it just didn't hit for them last year. But again,
Speaker 2: I will not be somebody that's ever surprised when those
Speaker 2: guys make big plays. They're they're that good.
Speaker 3: But I'll say that, and this is honestly, like as
Speaker 3: much as we talk about both both programs and the
Speaker 3: sexy talk is always about quarterback, wide receiver, running back, whatever.
Speaker 3: But man, does it start with the guys up front
Speaker 3: in the trenches. I mean you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, you know, they don't get talked about now.
Speaker 2: They get talked about when a play doesn't doesn't work right,
Speaker 2: Like they don't get any of the preseason chatter. It's
Speaker 2: not sexy talk, as you mentioned.
Speaker 3: So so when you have a hole that you can
Speaker 3: drive a semi through, the running back gets the credit,
Speaker 3: not the dudes who opened the hole that you could
Speaker 3: drive a semi through, You know what I mean? Sure
Speaker 3: and so, but but for both teams, you know, they
Speaker 3: all have both programs. They have question marks up front.
Speaker 3: You know, how is you know, how's Louisville going to
Speaker 3: replace a guy like Brian Hudson and some of those
Speaker 3: other guys up front? You know, can they do it?
Speaker 3: Can they run the ball? Can they protect Tyler Shuck?
Speaker 3: We'll see. Can Kentucky get back to be in the
Speaker 3: big Blue wall because it's a great nickname. But you know,
Speaker 3: at some point, remember the thing Nebraska has the black Shirts?
Speaker 2: Right, I can give you, I can give you a
Speaker 2: better one. Do you remember Louisville's the worst defense in
Speaker 2: Power five history called themselves? Was it No Fly Zone
Speaker 2: or the tax Boys?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: My god, it was the tax Boys, wasn't it? Do
Speaker 2: you remember this at all? My refreshing your memory? Whenever
Speaker 2: the Louoisvelles guys did a lot of talking and then
Speaker 2: they were terrible. Is that what we're looking at the
Speaker 2: blue wall potentially.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like and you know, Nebraska forever they were
Speaker 3: still handing out these black shirts for their defensive line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were terrible.
Speaker 3: And so the thing about it is is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a nickname. It's a cool nickname when it works.
Speaker 3: But you got to be able to get back to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have some self awareness.
Speaker 3: Got to start off front.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, all right, one more question here,
Speaker 2: I'll put you on the spot. This is just something
Speaker 2: I found to be interesting. In eighteen the last twenty seasons,
Speaker 2: a preseason top ten team has finished unranked at the
Speaker 2: end of the season. Who would you say has the
Speaker 2: best chance of being that team? Georgia, O High State, Oregon, Texas, Alabama,
Speaker 2: Old Miss, Notre Dame, Penn State, Michigan, Florida State. I
Speaker 2: think you actually have a few different candidates here that
Speaker 2: I could see with a scenario where they're not ranked.
Speaker 2: But of those ten, and I know I just threw
Speaker 2: them at you rapid fire there, who stands out if
Speaker 2: you think, okay, yeah, won't be shocked if they're unranked
Speaker 2: when we get to the end of November.
Speaker 3: You know, there's there's something that tells me as I as,
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of glossing over this thing and looking
Speaker 3: at it right now. My two top candidates would be
Speaker 3: I actually have to My three top candidates would be
Speaker 3: old miss Notre Dame in Penn State.
Speaker 2: I could see it. I could see it, no doubt
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is one for me, and I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know enough about their personnel, but I just I
Speaker 2: don't know. I feel like that doesn't it feel like
Speaker 2: this is the year where everybody you know takes a
Speaker 2: side here. Either Marcus Freeman's the guy for Notre Dame
Speaker 2: or maybe his days are numbered. I just kind of
Speaker 2: feel like he's been just good enough to where the
Speaker 2: chatter hasn't started that he's you know, that he's in trouble.
Speaker 2: But I feel like if they go to they go
Speaker 2: to College Station for the first game of the season
Speaker 2: at A and M. I kind of feel like if
Speaker 2: if they if they don't win, that I think you'll
Speaker 2: start to hear some more noise about maybe Notre Dame
Speaker 2: made the wrong decision.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And look, to be quite honest with you,
Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna walk the notor I'm actually gonna walk
Speaker 3: the Notre Dame thing back. I just I just took
Speaker 3: a look at their schedule. They're gonna they're gonna find
Speaker 3: a way to stay in the top twe it's.
Speaker 2: Their weakest schedule in a long time. I just saw
Speaker 2: that the other day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go with old mister pent State. I think
Speaker 3: one of those, one of those two teams out of
Speaker 3: the top ten will probably, if it happens, one of
Speaker 3: those two teams will not will not be ranked.
Speaker 2: Good stuff as always can't appreciate the time. I'm going
Speaker 2: to the fair with my kids on Saturday afternoon. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do it. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: I'm gonna branch out and be a little bit more,
Speaker 2: you know, open to trying new things. I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: the doughnut burger for you.
Speaker 3: I can't let me tell you something. I cannot wait
Speaker 3: to hear the report. I think you're gonna thoroughly enjoy
Speaker 3: it and then feel like you need to do a
Speaker 3: cleant afterwards.
Speaker 2: Good stuff, man, appreciate you can't hiba all right, that's
Speaker 2: kid Spencer from WHAS eleven always appreciate its time. Good
Speaker 2: stuff there. Yeah, Notre Dame. I will say this, everything
Speaker 2: I said about Marcus Freeman I totally stand by. But
Speaker 2: I'm glad he brought up their schedule because I saw
Speaker 2: because I've always defeated Notre Dame, they actually for not
Speaker 2: playing in a conference. People just assume they play nobody.
Speaker 2: They usually have a pretty good schedule. This year not
Speaker 2: as much, which of course will benefit will benefit Marcus Freeman,
Speaker 2: but it also could really expose him too if they
Speaker 2: have more losses than people are expecting. All right, quick break,
Speaker 2: We will come back on the other side. Talk a
Speaker 2: little more Louisville hoops, because you know, John Rostein was
Speaker 2: just a complete clown for where he put Louisville in
Speaker 2: his preseason ACC rankings. The Athletic the you know, I'm
Speaker 2: only saying this because they're more high on Louisville. They
Speaker 2: have a new ranking out that I want to take
Speaker 2: a look at that I think is a little more
Speaker 2: legit as you could expect. And also the G five
Speaker 2: are they reading the room. They're gonna meet collectively and
Speaker 2: talk about their own college football postseason, which isn't so
Speaker 2: surprising if you think about it. So stick with Us're
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Speaker 2: text says, Nick, you said it earlier, and I think
Speaker 2: you're spot on. I am starting to be a little
Speaker 2: worried as to why we're not hearing more about Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 2: You would think with brom having a quarterback that, as
Speaker 2: he said, can make the offense a little more vertical,
Speaker 2: that there'd be a little bit more love for him.
Speaker 2: Well again, what are you looking for when you say love?
Speaker 2: I mean I've not heard anybody say, hey, I'm I mean,
Speaker 2: it's easy to forget this because this era of the
Speaker 2: calendar as a college football fan is forgotten. Every year
Speaker 2: I'll remind you, like if stuff's coming out of camp,
Speaker 2: it's usually bad news. Like you don't want to be
Speaker 2: making news during fall camp because it's usually bad. And like,
Speaker 2: for example, you know Kentucky they're running back kent mention it,
Speaker 2: Chip train them. That's the guy who I feel like
Speaker 2: is called on to be the next not the next
Speaker 2: Ray Davis. Ray Davis is pretty good in the grand
Speaker 2: scheme of things, but like he's the guy that is
Speaker 2: to fill that role and he's hurt, broke his hand,
Speaker 2: probably gonna miss the first few games for them. That's
Speaker 2: certainly problematic. And as far as the next guy up
Speaker 2: at running back for them, I mean, I don't even
Speaker 2: know who would be. I mean, I'm looking at their
Speaker 2: depth chart, and you know, I'm not as familiar with
Speaker 2: their personnel as I am Louisvill's obviously, but I don't
Speaker 2: even know who any of these guys are. So anyways,
Speaker 2: like I don't think you're hearing anything about I'll put
Speaker 2: it this way. I don't think you're not hearing things
Speaker 2: about Tyler Shuck because they're worried about him. I think
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. I think Tyler Shuck if
Speaker 2: you put a you know, a lot of tector equipment
Speaker 2: on Jeff Brahm, he would tell you that he believes,
Speaker 2: and maybe he would say he knows that he has
Speaker 2: a better arm to work with than what he did
Speaker 2: last year with Jack Plumber. But I can also tell
Speaker 2: you that he probably expected I don't know. Maybe I
Speaker 2: shouldn't put I shouldn't speak for Jeff and his staff,
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't put it this way. I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: shocked if they told you they did expect to have
Speaker 2: better quarterback play than what they got from Plumber. But
Speaker 2: with Plumber it was weird man like, he didn't have
Speaker 2: a terrible arm. He didn't. I mean, in fact, this
Speaker 2: may this may sound uh, this may sound crazy, but
Speaker 2: there was a little bit of Jack Plumber in Malie Cunningham.
Speaker 2: I know what you're thinking, What the hell are you
Speaker 2: talking about, you idiot? They were nothing alike. Yeah, Mollie
Speaker 2: clearly made his plays mostly with his with his legs now.
Speaker 2: But at times he could make throws, like he would
Speaker 2: make a throw every now and then we are like, damn,
Speaker 2: why can't you do that more often? That was a
Speaker 2: needle like that was that was perfect and you know
Speaker 2: then the next series out he couldn't throw a five
Speaker 2: yard pass that seemed to be the easiest pass that
Speaker 2: he'd have all day. So, like, what separates guys from
Speaker 2: being like good enough or good to where you can
Speaker 2: be a strength of the team is consistency. And you
Speaker 2: also have to keep in mind if you're inconsistent as
Speaker 2: a quarterback with your arm, and on one day you
Speaker 2: can make the throws, on the next day, you can't.
Speaker 2: As a play caller, what do you do? You don't
Speaker 2: know what you're gonna get, right, Like, okay, let me
Speaker 2: dial this up, But like are we going to get
Speaker 2: the good arm or the bad arm that we see
Speaker 2: here and there? So with all that said, back to
Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck, I just think with Jeff, like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's not a First of all, he's not gonna come
Speaker 2: out and gas up his quarterback. So I've heard nothing
Speaker 2: but good things about Shuck. That doesn't mean that like
Speaker 2: he's going to be the acc player of the ear.
Speaker 2: But it really is just a wait and see situation,
Speaker 2: you know. I'll put it this way. Shuck enters his
Speaker 2: career at Louisville with better credentials than Jack Plumber did.
Speaker 2: It all just comes down to how healthy can can
Speaker 2: he stay? And only time will tell. But I do
Speaker 2: think it wasn't a quinn, It wasn't just a random
Speaker 2: thing he put in there. I think you know, Jeff
Speaker 2: wanted it out there that they don't intend to utilize
Speaker 2: him the way with his legs, the way that Texas
Speaker 2: Tech and Oregon did with Shuck. Now they're gonna have
Speaker 2: a package in there to where he could be utilized
Speaker 2: on the ground, and he could be serviceable in that role.
Speaker 2: But you also have to know this guy's fractual. You
Speaker 2: got to keep him safe, so you know. To answer
Speaker 2: your question, I guess you didn't really have a question,
Speaker 2: more of a comment. To respond to your comment, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't take it that you not hearing that he's
Speaker 2: killing it in practice as a sign that maybe he's
Speaker 2: not going to be good enough. I think Plumber made
Speaker 2: it to where fans are going to be a little
Speaker 2: more hesitant to just expect a transfer quarterback to come
Speaker 2: in and give you good results. So put it this way,
Speaker 2: and this sounds so mean. I don't think he could
Speaker 2: be worse than Jack Plumber, right, And I say that
Speaker 2: knowing that Plumber did make plays that helped you win
Speaker 2: games at times. He also a place that made you
Speaker 2: feel like you were going to lose a game that
Speaker 2: you had no business losing at times. So I just
Speaker 2: hope you get consistency. And look, if you go back
Speaker 2: and look at all the quarterbacks that Jeff has coached
Speaker 2: as a head coach, I think Jeff made them in
Speaker 2: times look a lot better than they actually were, just
Speaker 2: because of who he is as a play caller and
Speaker 2: as an offensive guru. Plumber was weird, man like, it
Speaker 2: was just weird how that worked out, because Plumber couldn't
Speaker 2: make himself look good, and you know, it's just it
Speaker 2: is bizarro. Jeff Brohm to know that last year they
Speaker 2: went ten and three, ten and four, I guess in
Speaker 2: the end after the Bowl loss, and they did not
Speaker 2: have really any true consistent participation from the from the
Speaker 2: tight end position. And I say that knowing that, yes,
Speaker 2: Nate Kriski last year made some plays and even Joey
Speaker 2: Gatewood caught a couple of touchdowns. Like those guys were
Speaker 2: on the field. I don't want act as if they
Speaker 2: didn't play with the position of a tight end last year,
Speaker 2: but it was not a factor. And usually Jeff Brohm
Speaker 2: really can can get a balanced attack going and then
Speaker 2: just carve you up with his tight ends being you know,
Speaker 2: available and you know, making big plays. So the quarterback
Speaker 2: kept it to where you really had to rely on
Speaker 2: and really take full advantage of two great running backs
Speaker 2: in Garrindo and Jordan, and you didn't really use the
Speaker 2: tight ends and you didn't really go vertical downfield like
Speaker 2: it was a good year, in fact, a really good
Speaker 2: year in the grand scheme of things. Ten win seasons
Speaker 2: don't happen that often around here. But the way they
Speaker 2: got there was just a little weird. All right, Let's
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Speaker 2: who at one point has has told us their name
Speaker 2: was Tom, because that's what I saved it at in
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Speaker 2: I'm not as worried about the win total. I think
Speaker 2: ten is unrealistic this year. If they get any lower
Speaker 2: than eight, I'll be disappointed. But for me, if they
Speaker 2: get eight or nine and one of those wins is
Speaker 2: Clemson or Kentucky, I'll say it was a good season. Well, Tom,
Speaker 2: if you say it, then we all say it. But
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. Like I understand that mindset, right, Like,
Speaker 2: maybe ten wins is a little bit harder to do,
Speaker 2: just because again, the schedule. I'm not going to present
Speaker 2: it as some daunting schedule that you just, you know,
Speaker 2: you're crying yourself to sleep at night, worried about who
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to play, because it's not that. But
Speaker 2: it is better than what was on the slate a
Speaker 2: year ago. So, you know, SMU, let's say, like you're
Speaker 2: replacing SMU with let's see here, let me pull up
Speaker 2: the schedule because I'm not ready to say that they're
Speaker 2: going to come in here and be you know, one
Speaker 2: of the top three teams in the in the ACC.
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm wrong, maybe they will be. I just look,
Speaker 2: nobody's talking about the fact that they lost to Boston
Speaker 2: College in a bowl game last year coming off of
Speaker 2: what was a really special season for them. Like I
Speaker 2: just I don't know, Like I can't have a hard
Speaker 2: time ignoring that, Like that didn't like that wasn't somewhat
Speaker 2: of a somewhat of a test there to see where
Speaker 2: they stand against a program in the ACC that really
Speaker 2: wasn't good. So, you know, Louisville this year, instead of
Speaker 2: playing n C State, who by the way, ended up
Speaker 2: being pretty good, you know, they've got Stanford instead of
Speaker 2: playing uh, Virginia Tech, who they don't play right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: instead of playing Virginia Tech, they now have you know, Clemson,
Speaker 2: Like clearly you're playing a better team in Clemson instead
Speaker 2: of playing Let's see, I'm trying to see how many
Speaker 2: repeat opponents they had. I guess the only the only
Speaker 2: teams on their schedule last year in ACC play that
Speaker 2: aren't there this year is Duke in, Virginia Tech and
Speaker 2: n C State. So with that, again, you've replaced Duke
Speaker 2: in C State and who is the other one I
Speaker 2: mentioned va Tech, Yeah, and vaw Tech. So you've added SMU,
Speaker 2: Stanford and Clemson. So I mean, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: feel like Clemson alone means that you have a tougher
Speaker 2: schedule because they're usually the winner of this league. They're
Speaker 2: a top fifteen right now. But Stanford should suck really
Speaker 2: bad if we're being honest. And Simus kind of a
Speaker 2: wild card. So you got rid of Duke, who is
Speaker 2: you know, clearly starting over with Manny Diaz and va Tech, who,
Speaker 2: by the way, is viewed to be one of the
Speaker 2: surprise teams, right, Like, I think VA Tech were ay
Speaker 2: right behind.
Speaker 4: Louisville, and they were at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: Last year, they were right behind Louisville. Also in the
Speaker 2: preseason rankings, for whatever that's worth, right, it was Florida State, Clemson,
Speaker 2: n C State, Miami, Louisville. That I'm pretty sure is
Speaker 2: how the preseason rankings came down. So you know, if
Speaker 2: Louisville ends up with eight or nine, like, let me
Speaker 2: cause not when you only play twelve games, not every
Speaker 2: record is the same, is that if that makes sense?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Like, not every seven and five is the same thing.
Speaker 2: Not every eight and four is the same thing, because
Speaker 2: I feel like when you are Louisville and you don't
Speaker 2: have a schedule that features, you know, six to seven
Speaker 2: ranked teams like some ACC and Big ten teams will face.
Speaker 2: If you get to eight and four, I kind of
Speaker 2: feel like you need to have one of those wins,
Speaker 2: be one that was notable. And last year you knocked
Speaker 2: off Notre Dame and that at the end of the
Speaker 2: year didn't look as good as it did at the time,
Speaker 2: but it's still still mattered. It's still a good win,
Speaker 2: no doubt. But if you look at Louisville schedule from
Speaker 2: top to bottom, and now I'm looking at like there
Speaker 2: are tiers here, let's start with the games you should
Speaker 2: just win, like there's no real conversation. You should win Stanford,
Speaker 2: Austin p Jacksonville State, Georgia Tech, and Virginia and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Like that's six games Austin p Jacksonville State. And I
Speaker 2: know Georgia Tech is believed to be better than a
Speaker 2: year ago, and they did have a good year last
Speaker 2: year with Brent Pry and they ended up being a
Speaker 2: bowl team and all that, but like little at home,
Speaker 2: first real test, they should win. If Louisville is anything
Speaker 2: anything close to what we think to, we can circle
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech on September twenty first and say, no, you
Speaker 2: should win that game. So those are your first three
Speaker 2: games that you should You should just win. Like you
Speaker 2: may lose, maybe something crazy happens, but like nobody can
Speaker 2: be scared as a Louisville fan that embraces expectations and
Speaker 2: say we should not be undefeated when we play Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: So six games, those first three. I'm throwing Virginia in
Speaker 2: there because they stink and they're going to be the
Speaker 2: worst team in the league. Maybe Boston College, I mean,
Speaker 2: same situation. I mean I know they've they've you know
Speaker 2: they've they've made some changes to their staff and whatnot,
Speaker 2: and you know they got that quarterback everybody likes. But still, again,
Speaker 2: if Louisville is who we think they can, if love
Speaker 2: was even close to who think they are, these are
Speaker 2: games you should win. So I'll start over again. Austin
Speaker 2: p Jacksonville State, Georgia Tech, Virginia, Boston College, Stanford, and
Speaker 2: Pitt did I li seven? I can't Countford, Yeah that's seven.
Speaker 2: So if you lose any of those games. It's not
Speaker 2: gonna be a crazy thing because one Louisville always seems
Speaker 2: to lose a game you shouldn't have lost, and let's
Speaker 2: be honest, Jeff, unfortunately, and look we can say it.
Speaker 2: He says it himself like he knows what's out there about. Hey,
Speaker 2: he can win these big games, he's proven that. But man,
Speaker 2: he'll turn around and lose to a nobody. So like
Speaker 2: the other five games, you've got Georgia Tech, SMU, Miami,
Speaker 2: Clemson in Kentucky, I'm gonna go with two tiers here,
Speaker 2: games that you are expected to lose but you know
Speaker 2: you can win. I would say that is I mean
Speaker 2: at Notre Dame is still gonna be a game they're
Speaker 2: not expected to win. At Clemson still a game they're
Speaker 2: not expected to win. Miami is a is a game
Speaker 2: they could easily lose at home. But given that they
Speaker 2: beat them there last year and they are at home
Speaker 2: this year and again Louisville should be better in my opinion. Again,
Speaker 2: that's a game like to me, that's the ultimate coin
Speaker 2: flip game, like they could go anyway, right, So you're
Speaker 2: not going to be expected to win Clemson in Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: But if you do, hell yeah, and then when it
Speaker 2: comes down to Miami, I put them as the ultimate
Speaker 2: coin flow. And then with you know, with with Kentucky,
Speaker 2: I don't really know what to do because I mean,
Speaker 2: let's be real, it shouldn't be looked at as some
Speaker 2: super tall task to go in and beat them in Lexington.
Speaker 2: But you couldn't beat them last year. They seem to
Speaker 2: no matter what, be ready to go in that game.
Speaker 2: They got your number, and they're gonna have confidence, like
Speaker 2: they can now come into that game having a very
Speaker 2: underwhelming season, just like they did last year, not feel
Speaker 2: great about themselves, but feel good knowing, hey, we got
Speaker 2: the get right game coming up. We got Louisville. And
Speaker 2: I hate that they were able to view it that way,
Speaker 2: but they can, and it's just right like they last
Speaker 2: year was the ultimate game, where like you better get
Speaker 2: them because they're down. They don't even have any confidence.
Speaker 2: Their coach is telling their fans to pay more money.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was no life to Kentucky football when
Speaker 2: that game happened last year. And then they showed up
Speaker 2: and they won and it was a punch in the gut.
Speaker 2: So I'm leaving that one alone, Like I think fans
Speaker 2: should still be able to look at that and say, yeah,
Speaker 2: we expect to win, because look, this isn't sadderfield football.
Speaker 2: Jeff Bram's a winner. He's proven that hedn't be Kentucky,
Speaker 2: and I know he's probably been bothered by that more
Speaker 2: than anybody. But that's the tier. You've got seven games
Speaker 2: that you just should win. You can lose to anybody,
Speaker 2: we know that, but seven games where if you take
Speaker 2: care of business, you win, and then you have two
Speaker 2: that you're not supposed to win, but if you do,
Speaker 2: hell yeah, that's at Clemson, an at Notre Dame, and
Speaker 2: then you know from there, it's who's the two that
Speaker 2: I've left off? Miami and SMU is the team I
Speaker 2: knew I was forgetting a team SMU. I put them
Speaker 2: in the same thing with Miami. They're not ranked like
Speaker 2: Miami is. They're clearly a team that's getting some respect.
Speaker 2: But you should win, like you could lose. It's a
Speaker 2: more losable game than you know, hosting Pittsburgh. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think if you're eight and four, nine and three,
Speaker 2: to me, I think it really depends on who those
Speaker 2: wins were and who those losses, because again, I know
Speaker 2: some people can just say, look, they're nine and three.
Speaker 2: What do you want? It's nine and three, and you're
Speaker 2: right about that. But at the same point in time,
Speaker 2: like who you beat matters. And that's why I was
Speaker 2: so crazy to me that Scott Saturdayfield could never really
Speaker 2: break through and win eight regular season games, because there
Speaker 2: were like three seasons where he could have won eight
Speaker 2: regular season games, been eight and four going into a ballgame,
Speaker 2: and he would at the end of the year actually
Speaker 2: not have a win. That was all that impressive. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been his fault, Right, you can only play who
Speaker 2: was on your schedule. But anyways, quick break will come
Speaker 2: back on the other side, wrap of the four o'clock hour.
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Speaker 4: I know this song.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't. I mean, I'm like humming along that.
Speaker 2: I don't know any of the words. Who is this?
Speaker 4: This is Candlebox with far behind?
Speaker 2: Okay, look at this a known song, right? People know this? Right?
Speaker 4: Their biggest hit back in the mid nineties. I believe.
Speaker 2: Good vibes, good vibes, all right, So we'll get a
Speaker 2: little more into this on the five o'clock hour, But
Speaker 2: I continue to see more and more stories out there
Speaker 2: in regards to this Group of five commissioners meeting that's
Speaker 2: going to take place next week. I believe in Texas
Speaker 2: and it's taught. It's in regards to a potential reshaped
Speaker 2: G you know, group of five. G five is what
Speaker 2: I call them postseason where they kind of have their
Speaker 2: own playoff. Some have even said n it of college football,
Speaker 2: which I'm curious, like, I don't know, like I feel
Speaker 2: like doing that, you are confirming what everybody already says
Speaker 2: about you, but yet everybody knows it's true. Like it's
Speaker 2: clearly a big There's a big difference right in playing
Speaker 2: in a G five league and playing in a power
Speaker 2: forward being a dominant in a dominant independent like Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: When I say dominant, I just mean, you know, they
Speaker 2: cannot be in a conference and still break in a
Speaker 2: ton of money. I mean they're a national program, they
Speaker 2: really are. But anyways, it's a part of me that
Speaker 2: if I am somebody like a Boise or a like,
Speaker 2: who's the most likely G five successful program moving forward? Like, gosh,
Speaker 2: it's tough to say, but like, is it Boise Memphis,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, maybe there's a Sun Belt team that, Like.
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of the really good ones
Speaker 4: recently jumped to the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean Cincinnati, Central Florida, Houston BYU Houston.
Speaker 2: So you know, maybe Nevada is in Nevada actually pretty good? Yeah, basketball,
Speaker 2: theyre pretty No, they're not Nevada. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: good now, but yeah, a Mountain West team like oh,
Speaker 2: like San Diego State. Yeah, but I feel like all
Speaker 2: these programs were mentioning you know, you're you're It really
Speaker 2: just is a year by year thing, like you know,
Speaker 2: the only of all the programs we've thrown out there,
Speaker 2: I feel like the one that has for the most
Speaker 2: part been good or really good for who they are
Speaker 2: consistently is Boise State. Like maybe they're going to be
Speaker 2: the consistent team that does get that spot as the
Speaker 2: one G five. So if if you're them, I would say, look,
Speaker 2: you know, we know what we can do, Like we've
Speaker 2: played in BCS Bowl games before when that existed to
Speaker 2: where I don't know, I just feel like if you
Speaker 2: have your own it will further speed up the powerful
Speaker 2: people within the college football playoff to make it quite
Speaker 2: clear you're not involved, you're.
Speaker 4: Out, you know what I mean? It makes sense like
Speaker 4: it'll almost be another like you have the FBS and
Speaker 4: the fcs. You almost have to have a middle tier
Speaker 4: for the G five.
Speaker 2: Like you also, you know that could be a big
Speaker 2: revenue thing. Though, is this other playoff that is for
Speaker 2: you to where and you need that? So like, no,
Speaker 2: there's way more that would go into than I would
Speaker 2: ever know. But I just feel like if you're fighting
Speaker 2: to let people know, hey, yeah we're we don't have
Speaker 2: the resources of the power for and we don't have
Speaker 2: you know, the tradition, but man, you give us a
Speaker 2: chance to get in that playoff, We're going to show
Speaker 2: you where who we are. I think by doing this
Speaker 2: it kind of creates a little bit more of a
Speaker 2: of a scenario to where they could say, well, look,
Speaker 2: you already have you know, you kind of confirmed that
Speaker 2: you aren't you aren't one of us. But then again,
Speaker 2: you're only doing that because you know for a fact
Speaker 2: that you're only going to get one team in every year.
Speaker 2: So anyways, we got another hour to go, five o'clock
Speaker 2: hours coming up next A lot more to get into,
Speaker 2: so stick with us. We'll get back to the text line.
Speaker 2: Talk a little more about the Kentucky State Fair. Let
Speaker 2: you know just how bad John Rostein was a putting
Speaker 2: together a SEC rankings because the athletic has put out
Speaker 2: the official rankings because they make Louisville look better. Who
Speaker 2: else knows, whoever, who knows? What else we'll get into.
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