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Brady Papinga on the line, Beatpop. How you living?
Speaker 4: What's up? Ben? How you doing, Buddy? Always fun to jump.
Speaker 3: On do an awesome man. One of the best times
of the year is we get We get Camp Kallani, Springball,
we get March Madness and NFL free agency. The combine
NFL free agency and eventually the draft coming up one
of the most wonderful times of the year in my opinion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty fun. Fan of the springball element. But uh,
I get it. It's it's always good to talk football
and specially to be Willia football. But but yeah, I
think my favorite time of year is August September. Yeah,
that where it gets really exciting.
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, champions are built in the offseason. Uh
what is uh what's the buzz around b YU right
now during springball? Would you say?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean the guys are competing hard, you know,
and I think that's just expected. That's just who these
guys are, you know. And that's one thing that I
always laugh at, you know. And you get these coaches
sometimes and they're always like, we gotta we gotta find
some physical or we gotta have a physical football team
that can pete hard.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Well, the first step in doing that, ladies and gentlemen,
you recruit those kind of guys. You recruit guys that
are physical. You're recouit guys that are competitive, and then
you just let them go. And that's what Kilani and
their staff is done, is they got a high level,
high volume amount of guys that are competitors. They put physical,
they play hard, they like the game, actually love the game,
and so you put the ball down anywhere. I mean,
at any time. These guys are gonna go out. They're
gonna play hard, they're gonna have fun doing it, They're
gonna be physical, they're gonna do it the right way.
And that's how they've been this whole time during the spring.
And the things that just jump out of me, though,
are you just have guys stack in years. You know,
you have guys that maybe got the feet wet last
year or entered the program last year. Bear, and now
all of a sudden you have this whole time now
where you kind of reset the installation, you reset you know,
the how comfortable you are with certain things. Now you
have an offense it's geared towards you, and all of
a sudden, it's like, I'm just in the flow, you know.
That's what Bar looks like right now, which is fun
to see, you know. And then he's getting more and
more comfortable with his new auditions at tight end and
then also on the edges there with Casper, and Casper's
looked great, by the way, the big tak receiver from
Ore getting very good in the fade game. He's also
shown some proficiency in this route running in the short area. Also,
I liked how all the guys in terms of offensive
receivers have been very adept to reacting to man versus
his own, finding the dead spaces in the zone, understanding
the leverage points and man and where the help is,
and then running away from the leverage point and not
running towards help. You know, like for example, he's got
a you know, middle of field safety, and you got
a guy who's running a post. Oh, he's gonna skinny
that post a little bit more if he's got a
middlefield safety sit there, you know. And it's listen to
nuances that I just don't know, we saw a lot
of last year, which makes sense because you got guys
that are kind of just learning. And then I'll talk
that you're getting comfortable with this, you know, with quarter
I'm referencing training camp, you know, getting comfortable with your quarterback.
And so that's very much behind us right now. And
then we have two other quarterbacks that have looked also
very sharp, you know, you know, watching the young guy,
I'd say is the guy that really is interesting, just
because he's so big and he's got all these different
arm angles he can throw from and he's so rod
just because he has showed up a couple of months ago.
But you kind of see him going through that same
learning curve too, where every day he's kind of getting
a little more comfortable, a little bit more in the flow.
So it's been it's been good. I'd say overall is
you're Kwai and that staff. You have to feel good.
You're especially happy guys that stayed healthy and just hope
he continued on that same path. And like I said,
if anything, you're gonna if there's any air here, just
air to keep guys fresh, keep him healthy because they're
looking good.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like Kyler Casper could be a wide
receiver one for BYU, similar to what like Chase was
maybe last year for b Yu.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's you know who I receive one, two,
three things an interesting conversation because it's not really dictated,
pre determined. I mean, it's really not pre determined. I
think that's what I'm getting at it. It's really who's
open and who's gonna beat a guy like especially if
you know it's Manda Man and and he's the guy
that really seems like it doesn't matter who you have
on him. He's he's able to use his height. His
catch radious too, and and he's competitive. That's one thing
too that people try to cut I I do don't
don't give a lot of these receivers credit. Is when
there are those fifty fifty balls or you got our
you know, Carver corner just drades all over, you gotta
find a way to make the play. And he's been
doing that pretty consistently. He's been testing our guys, and
our guys are good. You know, got Trey, you got
you know, got maybe there and you get you know,
I got a new addition from uh, you know down
south there that's uh, that's transfer. So we got some
good corners and he's been he's done a nice job
of being competitive. But I will say there's other guys
too that are showing up and they're they're doing good stuff,
and it's gonna come to me. It's very suf to
just get open, make plays and gets like Jojo he's
been looking good to But it's like, get open and
make plays and they're just gonna give you the ball
and then ball it's like, oh, I guess you're the one,
you know, number one right, white out or whatever. Number
one receiver. So just that's that's my thing is just
get open, make plays. You're gonna get a lot of
opportunities because guess what, everybody wants to see you make plays.
And that's the beauty of also being by U part
of the BYU experiences. Those fans, man, it's it's it's
just they yearn for people to make plays. They want
to cheer for you, they want you to become legendary,
you know, So just just just comply with them, man,
Just go ahead and do it.
Speaker 3: Go make some plays. We're gonna see a whole lot
more twelve personnel this season for Kaloni Sataki Kalani was
asked the question about who he's been most impressed by
from a position group, and he mentioned Walker Lyons and
Roger style of Paga. The two transfers, one from USC
one from from Oregon and uh look like uh? Is
this another dynamic doulo a like onto a tool a
Melian had Lewis like under Johnny Harley and Dan Coat
like onto Dennis Pitta and Andrew George. What do you
make of it?
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's very evident that it's very difficult when
you have a two tight end tandem like that to
defend because they can mold and morph without change of
personnel groupings into a lot of different offenses. You know,
they they can flex those guys out into the slot
and make it basically a spread formation. They could flex
one guy out, put one guy in the end of
the line of scrimmage like a general eleven personnel grouping.
Then you can put them both on the end of
the line of scrimmage where you can just make like
a twelve personnel with two tight ends on either side,
and then you can put one in the back of
the kind of motion of around. Now you got a
twenty one personel look all with the same personnel grouping,
and they're capable of doing that. I like about these
tight ends that I feel like I haven't seen in
a while, although we had some good tight end play
last year. I'm not trying to, you know, thrill them
under the bus. But one thing I feel like I'm
seeing more with these two guys, as Fannie mentioned, is
their propensity to get into a man and man situation.
Shake a guy, option off a guy, cut off a guy,
and then boom, they're open. I mean, it's like and
it's tough. You know, these guys are not easy to cover,
and it's nice to see that because that also creates
a lot of actions for your quarterback, and it creates
a lot of problems for defense if you try to
man up these guys, because then you have to start
to think. In addition to all your fun stuff that
you do on defense, you start have to wonder, okay,
do we want a linebacker on this guy? Do you
want a safety even or maybe at times we need
a corner. So adds for defense is kind of another
level of how you're going to implement your personnel, which
complicates things. It doesn't help you, it makes it harder.
And so it's interesting to see that. We'll see how
far they can take it, because if, like I said,
they get to a point to where they're just uncomfortable
with the tight end up on a linebacker, now you
have to make some adjustments in terms of your Manda
Man fits who you're gonna match up with. And those
are good things. And then when you have cas for
some of these other guys showing some signs too of
being really proficient against man and man, all of a sudden,
now things start to read challenging for a defense, because
you got to remember the reason why we're going to
see a lot of Manda Man is because uh Manda
man concepts. Cover three post safety stuff is because of
wanting to stop Bear in our offensive rushing attack. So
we're going to see a lot of it. They're not
gonna want to go to you know, split safety that's
allowing us just to gain yards. And the other complexity
of Manda man also is you have to then have
some spy to put their eyes on the quarterback because
you just can't go straight that man and man against Bear.
I mean, he's you're looking at the defense is looking
at their man to cover. He can run eight ten
yards before all of a sudden you realize, oh, he's
not throwing the ball, he's trying to run it. So
there's some good stuff going on offensively. I'm I'm pretty impressed.
And then you know, you got Roderick's's skill of and
they're they're an installation face, so you don't see a
lot of nuances of game planning, but they still have
a really cool schemes that just bust your reads as
a defense, you know, and so it requires you as
a defense to be extra detailed, layered in your ability
to decipher what's going on. So our offense is I
like it. It's very different, you know, because the vibe
last year in training camp was like, Okay, let's make
this very simple, let's simplify this as much as we can.
Where as now it's like, this is full blown what
we can see it. It's a beautiful thing to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love where those teams at right now. In
your opinion, how does this team coming off of the
eleven and two and twelve and two seasons, stay humble,
stay hungry, and not fall prey to maybe that pride
cycle this year?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it comes down to the leaders. The
leaders have to keep guys locked in and they have
to also keep their their focus on what's most important,
you know. I mean, are they okay with just showing
up or they want to really go for what they're
capable of? And as we all know, if you want
to go with what your for what you're capable of,
it is going to be the hardest way you could imagine.
There's nothing easy about it and there will be nothing
easy about it. And I hate to say it, I'm
not trying to dog on the basketball team. But I
think the basketball the football team has actually fallen into
that trap where there was a lot of assumption of, hey,
we got more talent, we could just show up and win,
and all of a sudden, all these teams are less talented.
You are just I mean, just ripping you apart. And
it's because nothing is ever easy. As a matter of fact,
the more talent you do have, it actually gets more
complex because with it comes expectations, There's comes higher pressure
from the outside, there comes that that interior intrinsic challenge.
The thing we gotta we gotta keep pushing because we
and then we got to find a way to get
a chip on our shoulders. We have to keep this
edge and urgency because the thing that will ultimately put
YU over the top isn't raw talent. I hope people
realize that it's not row talent. Now, raw talent helps,
but it's the combination of broad talent and that BYU
traditional underdog mentality that led to US beating Miami in
nineteen ninety that led to us beating you know, Kansas State,
Texas A and m in ninety six, that led to
us having a heck of a run at two thousand
and one. That led to us and you know my
year two thousand and four to beat Door Dame and
and and then you can go down you know where
we went down and we beat Oklahoma in the Jerry
World the first time and TCUs and you know, upsetting
these teams that really, I mean, you go look at
that Miami game. I don't know, so you guys, just
just for fun, go YouTube that Miami game in nineteen
ninety and go look at the receivers we had. Wow,
I'm just still shocked. And I mean I was looking
at our receivering car. I was like, ho, how did
we how do we score let alone win the game? Right?
But it's because dudes showed up and competed their tails
off and they didn't care. They weren't caught up with talent,
they weren't caught up with anything. Going out and finding
a way to make it happen. Having some urgency and
your competitive approach, those are the things that really have
to happen. Now, you can have all the talent in
the world, but if you don't have the combination of
those two, then the talent will get canceled out, like
we see them with the basketball team, and it'll be
very disappointing. So the team has to get their mindset,
and the mindset is this the way for them to
achieve their goals is the only way possible is through
the hardest, most challenging path that they're ever going to
have to face. And if they don't accept that reality,
then they're in for a really big surprise because guess
what they're gonna face. Something else is equally as challenging,
it as hard. That's just the nature of this game,
the nature competition. It is going to be brutally hard.
I don't care what talent we have. And so they
keep them out and the colonia does a nice job
and the staff does a nice job of that. I
think we've got a chance. If not, then it's gonna
be really frustrating to have to try to humble these
dudes and get them back on track and get their
focus back on. Half of that edge, which also may
be part of the dealer is year. We just don't know.
These guys are going to have to make that choice
based off of how they're gonna approach this year.
Speaker 3: Let's uh, one last thing regarding b YU football is
it is it feasible to see like a two like
an empty set with you know, two tight ends, Walker Lions,
Roger Saliapaga and then these three other wide receivers. Kyler
Casper six six two ten, Jojo Phillips sixty five to ten,
Reggie frishnet sixty four to ten. That's a big receiving group.
It kind of reminded me of like a Cody Hoffman
Ross Oppo, Tarren Howe, Mitch Matthews, that crew with a
bunch of tall, lanky, physical wide receivers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: That's I think that's that's possible. You know, I'm partial,
quite frankly, to just this. Give me a five eight,
one hundred and seventy five pound due that can get open.
Give me that guy, just just any anything that's in
his area, he is going to sacrifice his soul to
get it. Give me that guy. I don't need size.
I don't need these dudes that look good. Get them
out of here if they can't get out there and compete.
Quite frankly, I don't need a I don't need a pony.
When I needed some freaking dogs, man, I need some
rough edged dudes. They're gonna be on the edge. When
the dude comes up and jam you, you better be
disrespected that he would come up and put his hands
on you to the point to where not that you're
going to foul him, not that you're going to have
to retaliate, but that you're gonna beat him, and you're
gonna catch ball after ball after ballf and then you're
gonna get back on the other day to kick. That's
the guy, like, that's that's the guy I like to see, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?
Speaker 4: That's the guy. What was that guy that we had
that you had in six Cody that give me.
Speaker 3: Nate mickelkel Man, Yeah, false love, Nate, mikel Eric Eric
Drag give me this.
Speaker 4: Give me those guys you know, now let's let's hey.
I will tell you this. You give me those guys
with the physical ability of the guys you just mentioned. Okay,
now we got a real lethal combination. But I don't
mean all this. You know, we we got look we
look good, okay, but I played against a lot of
teams that look good that suck. Okay, play you know.
We gotta towns low. I mean, I out dude. Every
single times we played the Cowboys. It was a dog
and Pony Show. Even when I played on the Cowboys
forging out loud. I'm looking around on my there's a
lot of good looking players that are just not good.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I remember just so crazy, you know. And then you
look at the Patriots, you know, even though the Packers.
I'll never forget it, dude. And we were we were
playing actually we're playing the Vikings, and Vikings had this
minute they had like they had a future Hall of
Famer in Hutchinson who was like six' five three point.
FIFTY i swear he's like a. Bulldog then we had
this big tackle he was From. MIAMI i forget his.
Name he's like six eighty sixty. NINE i swear hes
three hundred and seventy five. Pounds and then they have
all these just big, dudes you. Know i'm looking at,
them and THEN i look at our offense. Line our
offensive line, average like we had our center literally was
six feet and on and on the, program his name
Is Scott well as you guys should look him. Up
he's a he's a, redheaded short.
Speaker 2: Guy.
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listed him at two like ninety. Five in, reality he
was a six foot two hundred and seventy pounds, center you,
know what the? Heck and THEN i look at their defensive.
Front you, know they Got Kevin, Williams Pat, williams they
Got Jared, allen And i'm, like how is our offensive?
Line that of how is this going to? Work and guess,
what we hardly ever lost to those, guys hardly ever
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Speaker 8: Man you KNOW i couldn't be doing much better after
that big win On, Saturday i'll tell you.
Speaker 3: That, yeah, man give me your reaction watching that. Game
how important was it for B yu to get that
final that that final win of the regular season In
big twelve play.
Speaker 8: Well momentum is a real, thing right and confidence is
a real.
Speaker 5: Thing and so as they.
Speaker 8: Win that, game they go to they go To Kansas.
City they have an important game tomorrow Against Kansas, state
AND i would say, THIS i would have offered them
to get.
Speaker 5: Two wins In kansas In Kansas.
Speaker 8: CITY i love them to Be Kansas state, Today West
virginia tomorrow and then be able to lose Against houghton
Only houston On, thursday then they would fly.
Speaker 5: Home they would Have Friday.
Speaker 8: Saturday In sunday off and then it's Election, sunday and
Then monday day get to.
Speaker 5: Work most Likely monday night Or tuesday. Morning they fly
wherever they, go and it's n say a.
Speaker 8: Tournament and so that to me would be the absolutely
perfect scenario for A byu for the next two.
Speaker 3: Weeks you mentioned the. Confidence what does a win like,
THIS i guess create within that locker room and maybe
even create within the coaching. Staff have they found their?
Rotation have they found their guys that are gonna that
they can wide and die with During march?
Speaker 8: Madness, yeah so that's a good, question. RIGHT i will,
SAY i don't know if they found a magic.
Speaker 5: Formula But i'm a bigger.
Speaker 8: Fan of the Way Kevin young is coaching based on
yesterday in the last two, weeks and that's BECAUSE i
can tell YOU i was over there in the tunnel
and there were a couple of timeouts When kevin was extremely,
animated where he was very feisty and fiery the way
he was talking to the, players and SO.
Speaker 5: I love. THAT i absolutely loved. That before the. Game you,
know sometimes you know, Me ben.
Speaker 8: RIGHT i mean SOMETIMES i get nostalgic and you get
text messages for me, thinking you, know talking about old.
Stuff and On, SATURDAY i just felt nostalgic AND i missed, basketball,
Right AND i don't miss it a, time but SOMETIMES i.
Do AND i wanted to go to The Mayott, center you,
KNOW i told THE. Uygv i'm, like, hey mic me
up and get me ready BECAUSE i want to go
to The Meyot. Center AND i spent about fifteen minutes
on the floor and it was kind of empty and
there was just you, know just staff over, there AND
i just kind of want to soak it in that,
moment you know WHAT i, mean like a lot of
it THAT i, remember or you, know it's it was
me working out by myself in that, gym and SO
i kind of just want to soak it into. Nostalgia
and and then AS i was heading back to go
to to go through the W A tv, STUDIO i
Saw kevin and we talked for a couple of. Minutes he's,
like oh, man they let anyone around, HERE i, see
huh and. Uh we had a good conversation quick visit
not being crazy and but but you, know it's just
one of those things that you could tell that he
was in a in a in a very committed state of,
mind and AND i love.
Speaker 5: That have they nailed their?
Speaker 8: ROTATION i don't, Know AND i don't mean there's negative
like they don't know what they're.
Speaker 5: DOING i just.
Speaker 8: Think that against EXAs, stack having a, smaller shorter rotation.
Speaker 5: WORKED i don't Think, beido you, Know i'm At.
Speaker 8: ABDULLAH i don't think he played ten. Minutes and so
you know WHAT i, Mean like you, Know hadean played a,
Ton keba played a, ton and so to, me maybe
what they figured out is if it's a smaller, rotation
these are the guys THAT i.
Speaker 5: Use if they have a seven, FOOTER i have.
Speaker 8: To Put amat In and so MAYBE i think that
they got that.
Speaker 5: Down but you, KNOW i.
Speaker 8: Think, TUESDAY i Think tomorrow And, wednesday maybe a little Bit,
thursday Because houston is a formidable full that is a
potential national, champion, RIGHT i think the WAY biu, plays
if they can't compete, then which has been the one
thing you AND i the last two, weeks three weeks
that we've been saying over and over, again what can we?
Speaker 5: Get what can we?
Speaker 8: Do what can be done for these guys to, compete
and they did it On.
Speaker 5: Saturday, yeah what stood.
Speaker 3: Out to you specifically about the competitive spirit and the
effort that they. Employed was this a more invested team?
Collective and where did you see it?
Speaker 8: Tangibly, well you, KNOW i will say, this to, me
it was more than.
Speaker 5: Anything it was their.
Speaker 8: Effort you, know the fifty to fifty loose balls by
you won most of. Them and there's a specific play
that comes to mind Is Connard david started the game
like zero for, three oh for, four something like. That
but there was a possession on the on the court
side seats side of the west the west hoop Where
canard fought for the ball and was able to tip
the ball and as Two Texas tech players were not a,
bounce the ball BECAME buyu. Ball and so that to.
Speaker 5: Me is the highlight of the.
Speaker 8: GAME i don't Think i've ever Seen conard made an
effort play like, that and so it was really exciting to.
Speaker 5: See it was super cool to see and to, me
that was, uh that was.
Speaker 8: Ah that was a snapshot of everything you know of
of the whole. Night and so to, me if they
can duplicate that, effort it would be difficult to beat.
Speaker 3: Them Jonathan, taminari former Bo you're, great The Brazilian. Bomb
we're talking TO Bau basketball here on Your UTAH Espn Radio,
Network Little College, Basketball Cougar sports brought to you By
Central Garage Utah Central Garage utah dot. Com so you
mentioned her, TEAM i, mean let's talk About keva's also
ability to play defense on the. Perimeter, Uh was that
the difference in a win or a loss this game
was the ability of her team And keba to guard
on the perimeter and shut Down Christian.
Speaker 9: ANDERSON i, mean we we don't know What keba is capable, of,
right and SO i don't think here if it was
his ability to do, SO i think it was more
of you, know the.
Speaker 8: Coaching stats felt comfortable going to a smaller.
Speaker 5: Lineup.
Speaker 8: Credit you, know all the credit in the world needs
to go to To, boop you, know because the way he.
Speaker 5: Played you, know like there was a play and you will.
Speaker 8: Remember This ben in the second half where he grabs
the rebound and makes a tough, bucket comes back on,
defense he's guarding the point guard and he's clapping and
he is waving his arms up and it had been
a minute since The Marriott center was so, loud since the,
manu since The Marriott center was so, engaged and so to,
me you know that those are the things to me
that make a. Difference you, know we Know keba is freakish.
Athletic we know he can jump out of the, gym
but to be able to see them do it with
energy is.
Speaker 5: Unbelievable.
Speaker 3: YEAH i was extremely impressed with the perimeter. Defense now
let me ask you, this how how good a team
Is Texas tech WITHOUT Jt? Topping like we, know IF.
Jt toppin's on the, squad they are a legitimate top
ten team at. WORST i think they're A sweet sixteen
team WITH Jt. Topping at, best maybe they're A final
four team WITH Jt. Topping how good are they WITHOUT?
Jt do you think what it give us a barometer
of just how Good brigham is and what they're capable
of beating right, now especially on their home.
Speaker 8: Court, yeah and you, KNOW i will say, THIS i
think WITHOUT Jt, Topping Texas stack is probably still a
top twenty five.
Speaker 5: TEAM i, mean.
Speaker 8: If you, think if you go back and watch the,
game then those dudes make twelve threes in the first,
half and you, know that's a team that they do
that night in and night, out and so you, know to,
me it becomes one of those things that they are so,
good they are so well, coached they're so, sharp.
Speaker 5: You know that they're so.
Speaker 8: Efficient, now, obviously when you lose your player of the, year,
right it's, difficult but it's nothing short of what b
Y u has an, experience you know WHAT i.
Speaker 5: Mean and so it's they're they're still very.
Speaker 8: GOOD i think J c top makes a, difference especially
at you, know at THE ncaa tournament, level as games
get a little bit clutch and, uh and they need
some they need some someone to take a game winning.
Shot they need someone to be able to you, know
close the game for. Them but you, know the next man,
up next man up has to step, up and you,
know we've seen people at B yu having to do,
it and, uh you, know But TEXAS tack is a
very good team even without even without J c Topping Jonathan.
Speaker 3: Tabnari, uh let's talk about By u's quest For March madness.
Perfection where you where do you stand right now with
expectations for B yu in the in the n c
DOUBLE A. Tournament what seeding do you project they'll get
in THE ncaa.
Speaker 8: Tournament, so in full, TRANSPARENCY i didn't think they're going
to Win.
Speaker 5: SATURDAY i really, didn't and so with the you, know.
Speaker 8: AND i thought that they would even have a hard
time winning more than a game In Kansas. City, now
based on their reaction right in the way that they
came out of, PLAY i would be extremely surprised IF
byu doesn't win a game most likely too this week
In Kansas. CITY i, will you, KNOW i will improve
my outcome a little, bit And i'll say that there'll
probably be a seven or eight. Seed you, KNOW i
don't think they'll go as high as a, nine BUT
i definitely see them being a seven or eight. Seed you,
know right, now they're listed as a.
Speaker 5: Sixth you know better THAN i do that B yu gets.
Speaker 8: Adopted a seed because Of sunday, play and so this
will be one of those things THAT i think they'll probably.
Speaker 5: Be a seven or eight seed Come.
Speaker 3: MARCH i, think you, know all things, CONSIDERED i Think
cougarnation should be pretty happy with, that considering they've been
on a down spiral for the last you, know thirteen
or fourteen.
Speaker 5: Games, YEAH i mean to be.
Speaker 8: Honest you, Know i'm a firm, believer And i've always
said this even when.
Speaker 5: When they weren't playing.
Speaker 8: Well you, know Like aj is so good that he
will probably win AN ncaa tournament game by, himself, right you,
know he gets up for the, moment he understands he's
in a, moment and you, know he really responds. Well
and SO i think he's good for one game on his,
own and then from, THERE i definitely think that some
of the other players are going to need to step.
Up AND i will say, this ben If buyu is
able to make back to The sweet sixteen with the
roster deplete of the way it, is oh, man that
will be.
Speaker 5: Crazy but then here's the.
Speaker 8: Thing Ben aj is so good that after a week of,
rest you, know can he pull off a magical run
and be able to GET yu to The elite.
Speaker 5: Eight you, KNOW i think it's. POSSIBLE i think he
is that good of a. PLAYER i Think robert right
is that good of a. Player you. KNOW i think
it's you, know somewhere along the. Lines you, know these
guys just got a little bit. TOO i don't want
to say, complacent.
Speaker 8: But they got a little bit. Too the sense of
urgency just went. Away AND i can tell you by
WHAT i Saw, saturday it looked like the entire team
had that sense of.
Speaker 3: Urgency how impactful was it to Have Richie saunders on
the on the, bench, coaching getting in the into the
grills of those that you, know he's been playing alongside
for the entire. Season what impact did that?
Speaker 8: Have, WELL i, Mean Richie saunders is the face of
The Kevin younge era AT. Wyu Richie saunders most most
likely is the last.
Speaker 5: Uh you, know the LAST yu player to stay for
four years and.
Speaker 8: Improve, RIGHT a lot can be said about Maybe Brody
koalaslowski becomes that, guy maybe being you, know record becomes that, guy,
Right but, nonetheless right, now you, know he is you.
Speaker 5: Know Richie. Saunders it looks like he is the less
of The.
Speaker 8: Mohicans and so just based on, that you, know he's
the face of the, Program he is the you, know
he he was the emotional, leader and, uh he was very, animated,
right and be able to see him talking to guys
and guys. Responding it was super super cool to. See
and SO i have been told that he is on
his way To Kansas, city which means you, know B
yu will have you, know an extra coach on the
coaching staff if you, will you know Of Richie saunders being,
there which is a great.
Speaker 5: Thing right when you have.
Speaker 8: Your, leader your senior, leader your emotional leader with, you that's.
Speaker 5: Always you, know a very good.
Speaker 3: Thing Jackson payne tweeted out at the end of the,
game this is why you never give up on the.
Season B way you fans had stormed the, court the
student section of The rock was alive and, well had
people really given up on the, SEASON jt had fans,
donors had they given up on THIS bau basketball. Team,
NO i don't.
Speaker 8: Think that's a fair thing to, say. RIGHT i get
Why jackson said, it BUT i. DON'T i don't agree with.
THAT i didn't think people had given up on the.
SEASON i think people, had you, know just WHICH i did,
too been to be fair with, YOU i was at
a point WHERE i was.
Speaker 5: Like just get To.
Speaker 8: March just can we just get to the A Saa
tournament and skip the last two three weeks because you,
know the the mental told that the season was Taking
it was hard and SO i definitely understand where people
were coming, from and you, know but obviously you, know
nobody had given up on the. Season but to, me
it's one of those things that you're just, like can
we get To? March can we get to THE ncaa.
Speaker 3: Tournament do you think that that Aj De bonsa deserves
to Be big Twelve player of The? Year has he
did he do enough to be The big Twelve player
of The.
Speaker 8: YEAR i think he, did he did. Right BUT i,
mean you know that's the. Thing an argument can be
made for J t toppin, right an argument can be
made for you, Know. KIYOTOA i, mean there is a
lot of different arguments that can be. MADE i am
curious to see the way to The big twelve, handles you,
know the, standings Because buyu had a very poor. PERFORMANCE i,
Mean buyu was speak to finish second in The big.
Twelve Second buyu finished. Tenth and so we all Know
ben Because, buyu we have all the excuses in the
world in the, world we know.
Speaker 5: That and that's that that that's a fair thing to.
Say b Y u has been.
Speaker 8: Depleted there has been multiple injuries and so But i'm
wondering how you, know the, committee the voting committee will
handle the fact that A j you, know A j seem,
finished you, know tenth in the, league which is the
same argument for him to Be player of The, year,
right which is WHY i Think Cam boozer From duke
most likely will be The player of the, year you,
know just Because duke is so good and they've been
very consistently throughout the, year and, so BUT i do
think that there is an argument to be made THAT
aj is going to be The freshman of The year
in the. Conference he's going to be An All. American
he's going to be a first Team All, american you.
Know and BUT i am curious to, see you, know
when when they release the the awards where every you,
know where all of the chips.
Speaker 3: Fall Jonathan, tabinaari ladies and, Gentlemen and just to, rehash
you think THIS byu team can at least get To?
Houston is that your expectation in The big twelve? Tournament
you can at least get To? Houston, correct that's my.
Expectation it'd be great to see love THIS byu basketball,
team and they hopefully made some of those that had
given up on the on the squad the season into.
Believers once again to top ten. Wins even though you
had a lot ye had the the low, point you
obviously had some great high points towards the end of
the year as, well With Iowa state And Texas tech.
VICTORIES jt for Three Jonathan. Tabanaar ladies and, gentlemen thanks
for hopping on for yet another edition Of Cougar sports
and college basketball And Cougar.
Speaker 8: Sports, well let's let's let's take another two minutes. Here
you tell me what is your expectation of this team
going to The big twelve?
Speaker 5: Tournament, Ben what.
Speaker 8: Are you seeing from a you, know a sports top,
show you, know a talking?
Speaker 5: Head what are you? Seeing where are you being the
chips fall with these?
Speaker 3: Guys, YEAH i mean for, me, LIKE i think you
can you could be a one and done and there's
also a possibility that you could probably get to the semi.
Finals you can get Past. Houston just depends on what
type of team comes out in, matchups, Right it depends
on you, KNOW i THINK i think you match up
well with With Kansas state And West, Virginia maybe not
as well With houston because they're so, big long and.
Athletic that's where the trial's gonna. Come BUT i do
think scoring, wise b why you can keep pace with
just about? Anybody can you rebound and play good enough?
Defense so they have the, CAPABILITY i think as a
ceiling to get to the semi. Finals but you, know you,
know do they have the capability of getting to the
final and winning it? All most, likely as you, mentioned
they're gonna be ousted by a much more talented and
equally as well coached team In. Houston it's a neutral, court,
though you, know SO i guess anything can. HAPPEN i
don't know how MANY byu fans are heading out to
The big twelve, tournament? Right do they feel like there's enough?
Momentum does that? Matter are they are they buying tickets
to go to The Big Towel? Tournament are they in
wait and cimo to see WHICH byu basketball team shows
up In? March?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 8: Well, well and then that brings my follow, up my
follow up, question which is my last. QUESTION i know
we're wrapping up this, segment but then my question for
you is did THIS byu team do enough On saturday
to convince.
Speaker 5: You that they have a chance to go to The sweet.
Speaker 3: SIXTEEN i feel like The Iowa state game gave me
more confidence that they could get to The sweet sixteen
than even The Texas tech. Game and the reason WHY
i see, That, Yeah i'll give you my reasoning behind,
it because LIKE i THOUGHT aj had a good, Game,
like but he was eight of twenty five from the,
field one of six from the three point. Line luckily
he got to the charity stripe as much as he,
Did but he's not getting the calls Like i'm IF
aj is getting CALLS byu can be A sweet sixteen?
Team does that make? Sense like if he's getting to
the line like Under Jim er Or Tyler hawes in their,
heyday drawing fouls and he's getting to the to the
line twelve times in a, game GETTING byu into the,
bonus then, YEAH i think by is A sweet sixteen.
TEAM i don't. THINK i don't Think BoA's A sweet sixteen.
Team WITH aj going eight of twenty, FIVE i don't see.
IT i just can't see. It, so LIKE aj is
arguably the best player in college, basketball you can't go
eight of twenty, five and if you, do you better
go eight of twenty five like most of those better
than be three, pointers, Right like you gotta make up
for it if you're gonna shoot that that at that.
Clip so that's kind of WHERE i, Stand, LIKE i
IF i SAW aj getting call hitting threes and still
shooting it with that volume and that raid at that,
clip and he's he's almost up to thirty points per. Game,
YEAH i THINK bau can be A sweet sixteen. Team
So i'm hoping he gets the. CALLS i hope that
THE ncaa tournament and the refs that that are employed
at the, tournament The Big Twelve, tournament THE ncua, tournament
they begin to give him a little bit more of
the whistle because up to this point in The Big,
twelve would you agree The Big twelve has not been
friendly TO aj drawing fouls.
Speaker 8: Has been fifty to. FIFTY i would say. THAT i would,
say you know, What, ACTUALLY.
Speaker 5: I will agree with. You he has been more.
Speaker 8: Like you, know thirty forty percent of the time he
gets the. Call, yeah and sixty to seventy percent they
are kind of not giving him a friendly.
Speaker 5: WHISTLE i would agree with.
Speaker 3: That, yeah it Is i'd agree with. That i'll meet
you in the. MIDDLE i think it's probably fifty to.
Fifty sometimes it gets the. Call sometimes he. Doesn't AND
i think if you look at the numbers when you
get into the the you, know nine and ten and
eleven free. Throws you, know that's when the whistles a
little bit more kind to AJ jt we got to,
run but always appreciate our. TIME i think it's a really,
good great, segment great. COMMENTARY i HOPE aj can can
lead the way along With Rob right and the. Crew
thanks so, much, brother appreciate you. All there you go
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