Speaker 1: Stuck at home, bored and alone. You'd think I could
Speaker 1: have some fun on my own, but not all. I
Speaker 1: AF with Cecily and Stephanie.
Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, Welcome to board AF just regular, just
Speaker 2: chilling like villain's like Bob.
Speaker 1: Like Matt Dylan or Bob Dylan. I go with Matt
Speaker 1: Dylan only because I feel that he's more chill than
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan is not super chill.
Speaker 2: I I feel, I feel that that's you probably are
Speaker 2: onto something there, h.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's not the chillest I think he's.
Speaker 1: I think he's funnier than people give him credit for.
Speaker 1: He was a funny funny. He is a very funny man.
Speaker 2: I know, I really, I told you my my Bob
Speaker 2: Dylan story, h.
Speaker 1: I have. You've probably forgotten it was.
Speaker 2: It's like not super exciting, but what I do think
Speaker 2: is interesting about it. So when I first moved to
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, remember I told you that I was living Okay,
Speaker 2: I moved in with this girl that had been living
Speaker 2: in She was my best friend when I lived in Spokane, Washington.
Speaker 2: Then I moved to Springfield, mass And like, I missed
Speaker 2: her so much.
Speaker 1: So so much.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, we were planning like as soon
Speaker 2: as we graduate high school, like I'm going to move
Speaker 2: to LA and she's going to be in LA and
Speaker 2: we're going to live together.
Speaker 1: That's our big plan. So moved to La.
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't know anybody. We were supposed to say,
Speaker 2: at my friend's aunt's house. But her aunt, it turns out,
Speaker 2: was a bit of an alcoholic maybe maybe drug addict.
Speaker 1: I think they were kind of coming back to me
Speaker 1: now is coming back to me a little.
Speaker 2: And so immediately we were almost like displaced, like she
Speaker 2: would take the phone with her. And remember this around
Speaker 2: the time that I got almost got involved in the
Speaker 2: cult in the Nomeo Coler Yeah Orange ko Okay. So
Speaker 2: right at that time though literally had been was staying
Speaker 2: at this at my friend's ant's house. We heard somehow
Speaker 2: that they were filming a music video at that big
Speaker 2: church on Franklin and Highland, I.
Speaker 1: Know, the big church people park they're going to the
Speaker 1: Hollywood Bowl, and they really up those prices at that church.
Speaker 1: Yeah for parking, it's like fifty bucks, yes, yeah, totally okay.
Speaker 2: So that church was having a music video. So I
Speaker 2: don't remember, like I guess somebody had seen it in
Speaker 2: the paper.
Speaker 1: So me and my two and.
Speaker 2: The girl and the girl that I brought with me
Speaker 2: Heidi who was seventeen, who I brought with me from Springfield,
Speaker 2: mass and the girl that we were staying at our
Speaker 2: aunt's house. The three of us got dressed up full
Speaker 2: eighties because it was the eighties, big hair, whatever, and
Speaker 2: we're like, we're going to show up and be in
Speaker 2: this music video.
Speaker 1: And it was Bob Dylan and Dave Dave Edwards Dave
Speaker 1: Edwards from Your Rhythmics, Okay, doing a song called when
Speaker 1: the Night Comes Falling from this guy? Is this is
Speaker 1: this story coming back to you? Noe? Okay?
Speaker 2: Weirdly, So they did this collab back before they even
Speaker 2: called them collabs. I think they just did a song
Speaker 2: together and they were making the video and it was
Speaker 2: at this church and it was supposed to look like
Speaker 2: it was like a concert, so we were like concert goers.
Speaker 1: So I just remember being.
Speaker 2: Like sort of like, Okay, you're going to go stand
Speaker 2: in front of the stage and then you're gonna here's
Speaker 2: the part where you're gonna cheer wildly, you know. And
Speaker 2: there was this one scene where the girl there's like
Speaker 2: a hot girl in the video Allah like Courtney.
Speaker 1: Cox, you know, the guest star.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and she comes down like like one of
Speaker 2: them is supposed to spot her in the crowd, and
Speaker 2: then she comes like the crowd kind of parts for her,
Speaker 2: and there's this There were all these places where I
Speaker 2: I was making myself like I would try to be
Speaker 2: wherever somebody was going to walk by me. I was
Speaker 2: hell bent on being in this motherfucking video. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on camera, and I am, but.
Speaker 1: For like the split like a split second, you can
Speaker 1: totally see me.
Speaker 2: And I remember I must have talked about this on
Speaker 2: either on our show or for crying out loud, because
Speaker 2: I found the video and frozen to where I was.
Speaker 1: You can still see this video online. But anyway, that
Speaker 1: is not even the exciting part of the story. We
Speaker 1: had to do this over and over and over and
Speaker 1: and over and over all day. Well.
Speaker 2: I had only lived in La for you know, like
Speaker 2: two days. So when I parked my car, I was like, gosh.
Speaker 1: It's so amazing.
Speaker 2: There's just so much parking available. Well, because I parked
Speaker 2: in a towway zone. Okay, so this is a big
Speaker 2: spoiler alert. I just parked my car. I'm like, gosh,
Speaker 2: there's just like sidewalk for days.
Speaker 1: It's just part Yeah. You can park where it's red,
Speaker 1: where it's white, where it's pink.
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't park in the red. I don't believe
Speaker 2: I parked in a red spot. But I parked somewhere
Speaker 2: that was like a no parking zone without reading a side.
Speaker 2: I didn't read signs because I.
Speaker 1: Was I don't know why they didn't have a lot.
Speaker 2: Of no parking signs in Springfield. I guess anyway, I
Speaker 2: parked the car. We're there all day. We're there for
Speaker 2: like twelve hours. I come out at the end, my
Speaker 2: car is gone, and I'm like, okay, where I must
Speaker 2: have mistaken where I parked. But we went back and forth,
Speaker 2: we looked all around. I was like, no, this is
Speaker 2: where I parked. So I literally call the police because
Speaker 2: I'm like, my car was stolen, and I go to
Speaker 2: say I was like, oh my god, my car and
Speaker 2: all of my shit is in the car. All of
Speaker 2: my life because I lived, all my stuff was stuff.
Speaker 2: Stuff was in the hatchback of my Masa GLC. My
Speaker 2: travelers checks were in the car, balked in the car.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh my god, I mean, my life
Speaker 2: is flashing before my eye. I call the police. I'm crying.
Speaker 2: The police person goes, what does the sign say.
Speaker 1: Like where we were parked?
Speaker 2: And I look and I read it and it's like
Speaker 2: a tow way zone or what different. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: your car was towed. And I'm like, pork pops.
Speaker 1: Oh. They're like, you hear the siren, you hear you
Speaker 1: see oj Goby and they're like, hold on a second,
Speaker 1: I'll be back. He just goes by in his Bronco
Speaker 1: and he's like, I got to take care of this
Speaker 1: called real quick.
Speaker 2: So the sign, yes, exactly exactly. So we're standing there,
Speaker 2: me and my me and my friends, and I guess
Speaker 2: and I don't quite remember it exactly this way, but
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan pulls over in a limo because my friend
Speaker 2: was super into him and like, you know, remembers every
Speaker 2: part of this, and he was like, hey, how's it going.
Speaker 1: Are you guys? Okay? Okay, yes, my god, Hey he's good.
Speaker 1: How you go? I was like, okay, did you get
Speaker 1: your cut? Limo?
Speaker 2: In a limo rolls down the window and for like
Speaker 2: gray poupon style you know, was just like and I guess,
Speaker 2: I guess we were just I was very shell shocked.
Speaker 2: So Heidi says that I was very preoccupied with like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, the car is gone. And of course
Speaker 2: Heidi was younger and didn't give a fuck as much.
Speaker 1: And it was also Bob Dylan is rolling his window down.
Speaker 2: Like she was way more excited about that, and I
Speaker 2: was like, what, No, we're fine. And you know, I
Speaker 2: think I feel just embarrassed to ask him for a
Speaker 2: ride to like the towyard.
Speaker 1: I'll give you a ride to the toe, please. I'll
Speaker 1: write a song about it on the way. Yes, not
Speaker 1: as amazing. So I know.
Speaker 2: I've said in the past that like the movie Funny,
Speaker 2: people like there's a big part about me. I just
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the biopic about him, but I'm assuming
Speaker 2: that there's a big part about me in it.
Speaker 1: I knew it was you. I knew it was you.
Speaker 1: There's a hole. He's like, you just did my video
Speaker 1: and then you're like not even looking at him. Whoever's
Speaker 1: playing you? Right, you were played by Aubrey Plaza again,
Speaker 1: and then then your friend, and then the friend weirdly
Speaker 1: is played by me. I never told you that that
Speaker 1: I was in the biopic A Complete Unknown and I
Speaker 1: play your friends. So I was like, I know a
Speaker 1: little bit about the story. Let me, let me just
Speaker 1: method act this. And I never wanted to tell you
Speaker 1: because I was like, what if she doesn't like the
Speaker 1: way I played her friend? It's a old thing. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's a whole thing. Also, I have a similar story.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, it's very embarrassing. I'm definitely not the
Speaker 1: hero of the story I'm about to tell you, okay,
Speaker 1: and very rarely am. But in this case, I was
Speaker 1: dating a guy who lived with me. You didn't, you
Speaker 1: never met him. But I was dating this guy who
Speaker 1: we lived together and I have yeah, and I had
Speaker 1: We were together like three years and lived together for
Speaker 1: like a year and a half, and I have a
Speaker 1: parking space and he didn't. Oh and it was kind
Speaker 1: of not know that you lived together for a full
Speaker 1: year and a half. Oh yeah, yeah, at least hold on,
Speaker 1: you're going to hear a noise. That's me plugging in
Speaker 1: my top that I didn't plug in all night. I
Speaker 1: just told the it's going to be worth it. It's
Speaker 1: going to be worth it. Me out for a second, Okay,
Speaker 1: I will tell the audience while you're busy for a
Speaker 1: second that I last time we were talking about a biopic,
Speaker 1: I called it a biopic.
Speaker 2: And then I also did that, I think when I
Speaker 2: was talking to Lynnette. And it's one of those things
Speaker 2: that you will stand up for me, because it's one
Speaker 2: of those things that I guess I just hadn't noticed
Speaker 2: people saying that word out loud, and I just read
Speaker 2: it a lot, and I got so much shit for
Speaker 2: calling it a biopic instead of a biopic. And and
Speaker 2: then I was speaking to somebody else. I was interviewing
Speaker 2: somebody for Drunkish, and that person referred to a biopick
Speaker 2: as a biopic, and I did not correct them, but
Speaker 2: I felt so strangely like better about myself because this
Speaker 2: was a very smart person, like college educated.
Speaker 1: I think it's an easy mistake, and I think there's
Speaker 1: probably an argument that it could be both because it's
Speaker 1: just a word, like what our I'm not even joking
Speaker 1: about that, like what are letters? Who decides? I say,
Speaker 1: biopica's like a biography picture right, a biopic? It's a biopic, whatevers.
Speaker 1: I won't I'm not done on that hill.
Speaker 2: I say it's like myopic, you know, like you're you're
Speaker 2: short sighted.
Speaker 1: I just make a whole yeah, okay, damn it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you're living with this guy. So I'm living with
Speaker 1: him and he doesn't have a parking space and I do.
Speaker 1: And it kind of was sucky because I never really
Speaker 1: even thought like, oh, he could just take my space
Speaker 1: and I'll look for parking. I just I lived there
Speaker 1: for a long time and I was like, it's my
Speaker 1: space and he can, Like I think he paid a
Speaker 1: little lesson rent because I had the parking. Okay, so
Speaker 1: he did have a pickup truck, which sucks to have
Speaker 1: to park at run Yan Ganyon, Like it's already hard
Speaker 1: enough to park around here, but he had like a
Speaker 1: giant pickup truck. Giant. Why did think that? I don't.
Speaker 1: I never knew. And I fucking hated that truck. I
Speaker 1: really did. And I'm not anti pickup truck. I grew
Speaker 1: up in Texas, Like, I don't mind. It just didn't
Speaker 1: belong in Los Angeles on my street and it was
Speaker 1: just so ugly and weird and whatever. But that wasn't
Speaker 1: the point. So he was also pretty flaky and didn't
Speaker 1: look at signs and like never it was just very
Speaker 1: in his own head. We would we would argue a lot,
Speaker 1: Like we went on a trip together. That was the trick.
Speaker 1: He wanted to take me home to meet his family,
Speaker 1: and so he's like, I'm getting the tickets and I'll
Speaker 1: take care of Like we were going to stay in
Speaker 1: Portland for a while, so he was he got us
Speaker 1: a hotel, he was planning all that. But he's not
Speaker 1: the guy you want planning things like it's not that
Speaker 1: fun because you're like, do you have the tickets? He's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, like you're halfway to the airport. He's just
Speaker 1: he's not the guy. And then we'd argue because then
Speaker 1: I have to be the bossy type a because somebody asked.
Speaker 2: To you don't have the tickets, so meaning like I
Speaker 2: forgot the tickets, or like I forgot to buy the tickets.
Speaker 1: Period, different different versions of that early seriously, and nothing
Speaker 1: was ever really he had great intentions and a really
Speaker 1: nice it's a really nice person that just like was
Speaker 1: like absent minded professor guy, you know. So he would
Speaker 1: sometimes and also so it sucked to park this giant car.
Speaker 1: So one day he came home or he was leaving,
Speaker 1: I was home and he left to go and then
Speaker 1: he came back really quick, and I'm like, what's up.
Speaker 1: And I was checking my email exactly when this happened.
Speaker 1: He's like, my car has gone. My car's been stolen.
Speaker 1: So he'd left it somewhere on our street overnight and
Speaker 1: then it wasn't there when he went to go get
Speaker 1: it in the morning. He's like, my car was stolen.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. Okay, well, what do we do.
Speaker 1: We have to call the police. He's like okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So he starts to call the police. And as he's
Speaker 1: calling the police, I went ahead and checked my email
Speaker 1: because I was already doing that. So as I checked
Speaker 1: my email.
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, but I also might have like an
Speaker 2: offer on my contract.
Speaker 1: What's worse than that? It's the worse. So Monroe I
Speaker 1: had sent off to have his his breed analysis done,
Speaker 1: uh huh, and the results came in and I was
Speaker 1: just so excited to get because he was a rescue
Speaker 1: mutt and I'm like, course, oh my god. And so
Speaker 1: he's on the phone with the police and I'm like John,
Speaker 1: his name was also John, so John John. But I
Speaker 1: like knew enough to maybe not keep saying John because
Speaker 1: he was on with the cops, right, so same, he
Speaker 1: went through the same thing. The cops were like, you
Speaker 1: look at the sign, Yeah, okay, it was it was Toad.
Speaker 1: I think it finally came to me. I was like,
Speaker 1: I bet it was just Toad. So we had to
Speaker 1: figure out through the cops which toe company was. It
Speaker 1: was a thing. So then he's pretty upset because he
Speaker 1: was We were both pretty broke at the time, and
Speaker 1: he definitely didn't have enough for the three hundred. It
Speaker 1: had been there overnight too. Oh yeah, it was like
Speaker 1: quite like two full days.
Speaker 2: You might as well buy your car at that point,
Speaker 2: the way they charge you for.
Speaker 1: That, yes, each day, And so I knew I was
Speaker 1: going to have to drive him to the toe place.
Speaker 1: I like nobody was happy obviously about this, but neither
Speaker 1: of us were great problem solvers, especially not me, so
Speaker 1: I just was sort of like, god, get I think
Speaker 1: I made him get another friend do it because I
Speaker 1: was so agitated by the whole like like, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: you look at the fucking sign kind of thing. But
Speaker 1: I also still really want to tell him these results,
Speaker 1: so I kept I go, can I please just can
Speaker 1: I just open this and he's like, I guess, so
Speaker 1: I opened it. I look, can I tell you? Can
Speaker 1: I just tell you what it is? And he goes
Speaker 1: like not right now. Now I have to find a
Speaker 1: friend to go get me. I mean, it was terrible
Speaker 1: on all accounts, but especially my end. But the results
Speaker 1: here's the best part. The results were so stupid and false.
Speaker 1: Oh so I was really riled up about. I was like,
Speaker 1: I think they sent us the wrong results. He's like,
Speaker 1: I have to deal with that later. I cannot deal
Speaker 1: with that right now. I have to figure out where
Speaker 1: my car is my truck, like my thirty thousand dollars truck,
Speaker 1: you know. And I was like okay. But I was
Speaker 1: like but but but real quick, like they're saying he's
Speaker 1: a poodle and he's like Cecily. And it was an
Speaker 1: it was like an obvious fight, which I was in
Speaker 1: the wrong on. I do get that because I was.
Speaker 1: And finally finally we got I think maybe I did
Speaker 1: drive him. I don't remember that, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: great with the stol on detail. But we got it.
Speaker 1: We got the car back. It was we were mad
Speaker 1: at each other for a while, and I was like,
Speaker 1: can I read you the whole thing. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess, and I was like, yeah, they're saying he's
Speaker 1: half poodle, half Pomeranian. I should write a letter, right
Speaker 1: because he's not. And he didn't really see never really
Speaker 1: got as invested as to what Monroe's breed was. But
Speaker 1: I think it also was just really bad timing.
Speaker 2: I highly relate though to the like wanting we I've
Speaker 2: done two different reads.
Speaker 1: I got to do a new one. I did Wisdom panel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did Wisdom and Embark okay, which was better because
Speaker 1: Wisdom was terrible, but this was twenty thirteen. I think
Speaker 1: they were kind of equal.
Speaker 2: But I was always very sus because you know, I
Speaker 2: always felt it was ridiculous because they they wanted you
Speaker 2: to send a picture.
Speaker 1: I didn't send a picture. I didn't do it. That's bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, some of what they said Penelope was was
Speaker 2: definitely not true.
Speaker 1: But they did.
Speaker 2: They did say that she was definitely part pit. They
Speaker 2: said she was part pit, part American bulldog. But Penelope
Speaker 2: is a long hair dog. She's not super Yeah, she's pretty,
Speaker 2: she's long hair. And they never could tell us why
Speaker 2: not one of the breeds, even in like the one
Speaker 2: percent you know, they give you like the yeah major
Speaker 2: and then they met every dog right now, they go
Speaker 2: one percent, this, this, this, you know chihuahua.
Speaker 1: None of her all had long hair though, so I
Speaker 1: was always like, that's so weird. When did you do it, though,
Speaker 1: because I think that's the issue. I think they got better.
Speaker 1: I did it. I'd only had her.
Speaker 2: Well, we've had her nine years going on ten years, okay,
Speaker 2: so I probably did it like a year into it,
Speaker 2: tears into it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you did it well around the same because
Speaker 1: I did it, and yeah, it was twenty thirteen. I've
Speaker 1: had him since twenty ten, which is crazy. I've had
Speaker 1: her twenty sixteen. Okay. I mean it was definitely wrong.
Speaker 1: And I sent a letter. I did send an email,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what the fuck. Then they asked
Speaker 1: for a picture again. I go, I'm not sending you
Speaker 1: a picture. And not only that, I'm making my Instagram.
Speaker 1: I'm making all my stuff private so you can't find him.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. Because my dad had a big
Speaker 1: thing about that. He's like, you're just throwing one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: You're giving them one hundred dollars and they have a
Speaker 1: dart board and then they're throwing the dart and they're like,
Speaker 1: your dog is a rottweiler, and like, you know, he's
Speaker 1: not wrong, so I said. They're like, yeah, that happened
Speaker 1: a lot, and they had all this jargon bullshit, and
Speaker 1: they're talking to the wrong bitch because like, I know
Speaker 1: all that shit. I'm interested in that, and I can't
Speaker 1: just say. So they're like, yeah, let's read, we're gonna
Speaker 1: redo it. I go, do you want me to send
Speaker 1: a DNA sample and they're like, no, we still have
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you still have a vial of it.
Speaker 1: I just kept it just in case. So then they
Speaker 1: re ran it and I think they found a picture
Speaker 1: of him, so they're like, we do you see It's funny.
Speaker 1: We do now see a little basket hound, which you
Speaker 1: can see he has kind of long ears and his
Speaker 1: legs go out like a basset, so he's definitely got
Speaker 1: hound in them, which they did not see the first time. Like,
Speaker 1: so the first time around, you got no hound dog,
Speaker 1: which he clearly is. But now you see a little
Speaker 1: basket in there. Now that popped up in the DNA. Oh,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't use them again. I'd like to try embark sport.
Speaker 1: It's too late. I really do want to. I think
Speaker 1: that they have come a long way. If anyone is
Speaker 1: listening knows, But yeah, they're just looking at the pictures.
Speaker 2: I was like obsessed for many years with because there's
Speaker 2: no there are no dogs.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a dog that looks like Penelope. Same.
Speaker 2: Of course, now I do sometimes I just I see
Speaker 2: the pity in her, the Staffordshire Terrier in her. So
Speaker 2: I recognize that more when I see somebody else as
Speaker 2: a dog that's that's staff.
Speaker 1: I see like a little Schnauzer or maybe Visla because
Speaker 1: they have long hair. They have wire haired Vislas, so
Speaker 1: that could be a little bit Penelope or a little
Speaker 1: bit of.
Speaker 2: A total pitface though Stafford. But the long hair part, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, I don't know. But I just remember there
Speaker 1: was this dog.
Speaker 2: I found a picture of this dog online, and then
Speaker 2: I was really obsessed with trying to find like the owner, Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, like what kind of dog do you have?
Speaker 1: I have the same, I don't like. I wanted to
Speaker 1: compare pictures, but they would never I couldn't figure it out.
Speaker 1: I googled like beagle dogs and like put together because
Speaker 1: the Monroe looks like both. So then I found exactly
Speaker 1: that dog. But then it looks like that's like stock
Speaker 1: footage for anybody who googles anything. Mm hmm. It turned
Speaker 1: out that it was like because I tried to do
Speaker 1: the same thing, like what's the instinct account mean? While
Speaker 1: John's like in jail now he's gotten in a fight
Speaker 1: with the toe guy and he's in prison and he's like,
Speaker 1: can we can you please just make my bail Like
Speaker 1: I gotta hold on, I gotta email them again. I
Speaker 1: have to find out. The timing just was really bad.
Speaker 1: It just my bad. But I feel like your story
Speaker 1: is a little bit worse because Bob Dylan was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what kind of dog? I was like, I don't even
Speaker 1: have a dog, Like, but you will, you will. I'm
Speaker 1: a truth teller, I'm a super a suit saar That's
Speaker 1: what I was trying to And then you're like, he
Speaker 1: has a song called Stephanie I'm a suit sayer. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't. This is a just a pimple and they
Speaker 1: didn't even really have a lot of pits back then.
Speaker 1: Well he hasn't. The harmonic it's like a sixteen minute
Speaker 1: harmonica solo, You're gonna have to pay more in homeowners insurance.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't I live in an apartment, Like
Speaker 1: I'm Bob Dylan. I mean, listen, do we all it?
Speaker 1: Moral of the story is do we always make the
Speaker 1: best decisions? No? No, I guess is the moral? Like,
Speaker 1: let's do a sliding doors here. Let's say you were like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna find the car. The car
Speaker 1: will come back to me as it should when it's time.
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan's right here, so let's get let's go do
Speaker 1: some coke. Right? I think was he a coke guy?
Speaker 1: What year was this? I could tell you it would
Speaker 1: have been nineteen eighty six. He had gone through a
Speaker 1: religious period. Remember, he became he is a Jewish Man,
Speaker 1: Robert Zimmerman, and he became born again Christian at some
Speaker 1: point in the eighties, and he recorded a few albums
Speaker 1: as such. I know this because my friend, a very
Speaker 1: good friend of mine, is a Bob Dylan aficionado, like
Speaker 1: he lives for him. So he gave me the whole timeline. Okay,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he was born again and he had a
Speaker 1: lot of weird stuff going on there. So I feel
Speaker 1: like that would have been that time. I think maybe
Speaker 1: he probably would have taken you to church. But if
Speaker 1: you'd gone to church with Bob Dylan instead of being.
Speaker 2: Mad, maybe that's why he wanted to do the video
Speaker 2: at church.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, though, I mean I'm not sure exactly the
Speaker 1: time period. Someone might know that, but let's just say
Speaker 1: I had not fiddle faddled around with my John getting
Speaker 1: his car back. I mean, I don't know what the
Speaker 1: difference would have been, though, Like I just would have
Speaker 1: been more attentive. We would have broken up either way,
Speaker 1: so that sliding door wouldn't have changed us. That's not
Speaker 1: what broke you guys up. No, we were together a
Speaker 1: good year and a half after that, but he was
Speaker 1: I wasn't like proud of that mole. I mean, it
Speaker 1: wasn't my best like I could have. I had another
Speaker 1: one like that that I did tell you about on
Speaker 1: the show, which was a really bad one. I was
Speaker 1: kind of living with a different guy, kind of just
Speaker 1: for the summer. I was in between places. So for
Speaker 1: like three months I lived with someone who I very
Speaker 1: much loved, okay, very much one to be with, and
Speaker 1: we gotten at tiff, which we didn't often do, and
Speaker 1: he was I don't remember what it was, but his
Speaker 1: grandmother died, remember the story. And then he had to leave.
Speaker 1: I had to go. I had to temp or something.
Speaker 1: I had to be at my temp job at eight
Speaker 1: or some shit, and you're having a thing. And then
Speaker 1: he wanted me to take him to the airport, like
Speaker 1: not do my temp job, and I was like, didn't
Speaker 1: want to, didn't do it, And I so regret that.
Speaker 1: I so regret not taking my boyfriend whose grandmother just
Speaker 1: died to the airport when he needed me to. I
Speaker 1: was like worried about myself, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: have to get to my temp job and I don't
Speaker 1: want to go to lax and let me. I'll just
Speaker 1: pay for your cab, you know, or whatever. It was
Speaker 1: so stupid. I was kind of mad at him, and
Speaker 1: I I that could have been a different sighting door,
Speaker 1: because I think that was the moment where he was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be with this person. Really. Well.
Speaker 1: We stayed together a little bit after, but not much.
Speaker 1: We broke up, like a few months later. He went
Speaker 1: off to do a shoot a movie and I stayed
Speaker 1: at his place, and I, you know, nobody was acting
Speaker 1: on their best behavior, to be honest.
Speaker 2: Was that But was that like a one a one
Speaker 2: off or do you feel like you were just in
Speaker 2: a phase of your life where you just were more selfish?
Speaker 1: I mean maybe a little bit of both. I was.
Speaker 1: I remember I was mad because he cheated on me.
Speaker 1: You left some really important I did forget about that,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I was pretty pissed about it.
Speaker 3: And also yeah, I mean still also but also it's
Speaker 3: just what I'm gonna sound like an asshole, Okay, I know, yeah, right,
Speaker 3: it's his grandma.
Speaker 1: It's not like his mom died. But let me push back,
Speaker 1: even on my own thing is that I loved her too.
Speaker 1: I'd met her, We'd spent time in the state he
Speaker 1: was from together. I really I really cared about her
Speaker 1: as well. So like even that, I mean, she was
Speaker 1: she was, she was exquisite. And it doesn't matter you're together.
Speaker 1: Of course you take of course, you take your boyfriend well,
Speaker 1: but also temp jobs.
Speaker 2: It's really easy, as we have experienced, if you don't
Speaker 2: show up for your temp jobs, do get real mad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was really mad about this other thing,
Speaker 1: but I do, I will say so whether whatever it is, like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I was in the wrong on that one.
Speaker 2: But it's dausible that you broke up more because he
Speaker 2: was a cheater.
Speaker 1: He broke up. We were in a weird situation. It's
Speaker 1: kind of strange to talk about because like he I
Speaker 1: think we've talked about it, but he like kind of
Speaker 1: cheated a little, and he wasn't committing and he was
Speaker 1: only really into me when I would say, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going to move on, right it come back, and like
Speaker 1: it was a really really confusing situation, and then I
Speaker 1: started dating someone else pretty seriously, and then then we
Speaker 1: all just were like, remember we kind of opened it up,
Speaker 1: and so I was dating two people pretty seriously openly
Speaker 1: and that and then everybody was also kind of dating
Speaker 1: other people after that. Like it it got, it got,
Speaker 1: it got challenging, certainly not. I don't have the And was.
Speaker 2: This during the time that you would that you didn't
Speaker 2: take him to the airport?
Speaker 1: Trying to remember, so that would been that would have
Speaker 1: been the summer of two thousands, So no, this was
Speaker 1: after the fact, So I think this was after I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think the timeline. I think this would have
Speaker 1: been after we sort of got back together because something
Speaker 1: really bad happened with one of the guys and we
Speaker 1: broke up. Broke up, so it was I was all
Speaker 1: the same guy. It was all Guy A, and Guy
Speaker 1: A didn't really want that. Now now Guy A is like,
Speaker 1: I liked it when you were just you know, when
Speaker 1: I didn't have as much pressure. So now the other
Speaker 1: guys out, Now I'm in. Now I'm staying with him
Speaker 1: for three months, which he didn't want. I could feel
Speaker 1: all that he wasn't being great to me, he wasn't
Speaker 1: being very nice. I think a little hard on yourself maybe,
Speaker 1: but I do wonder sometimes, like, yeah, what would have
Speaker 1: happened if I had just been a little nothing. He
Speaker 1: still would have cheated, and he still would have been
Speaker 1: avoidant because he chosen someone else. He ended up getting married.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. It's like I always say, I can't
Speaker 1: all be avoidant, like they just didn't choose me, when
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you can like the ones that are avoidant.
Speaker 2: Though it sounds like which I sounds like you did
Speaker 2: to me because right, because they're because they are the
Speaker 2: kind of people that don't commit very easily.
Speaker 1: Because I am avoidant. Remember we talked about that. I
Speaker 1: have the issues too, So I choose on purpose, so
Speaker 1: I get to act out a different role. Right, I'm
Speaker 1: the one like, oh my god, no, no, no, no, wait
Speaker 1: what No, it's not moving in. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: I feel that too. I'm the one that's like, oh god,
Speaker 2: I can't this guy likes me too much.
Speaker 1: Oh God.
Speaker 2: But then I want the guy that doesn't like me
Speaker 2: that much, and then I can be like, I don't
Speaker 2: understand why he's to me.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, why am I not the one who's chosen
Speaker 1: when I know exactly why? Because I don't want to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I did, then I would have ended up with
Speaker 1: some schlub no offense back in Texas. Wasn't that hard
Speaker 1: to snag a husband in your twenties?
Speaker 2: Tell you that I just couldn't. I know, I couldn't
Speaker 2: like the ones that liked.
Speaker 1: Me, I know. I mean this is why I'm still
Speaker 1: I'm still fucked up. I mean, I'm learning more about it,
Speaker 1: like I'm in there. I'm I'm That's how I'm saying it,
Speaker 1: like as though I'm I'm hiding my fate, like I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I'm in thorough But I'm learning that a lot of
Speaker 1: it comes not from anxious or all that stuff, all
Speaker 1: the attachment stuff. It doesn't necessarily mean something happened in
Speaker 1: your childhood. It just means that you're you get bored easily.
Speaker 1: I have I probably have a little bit of a
Speaker 1: it's an addiction to not chaos, but to like excitement,
Speaker 1: And that's more exciting to me to you know, be
Speaker 1: with someone who's inconsistent, because then I'm chasing a hit.
Speaker 1: I mean they say that sometimes you're just born that way.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's maybe.
Speaker 2: How does anybody ever get together in a way that's
Speaker 2: like equal?
Speaker 1: Such a good question? I mean you and John did.
Speaker 1: I think it has to just it all has to spark,
Speaker 1: like at the right time, early enough that you're you're
Speaker 1: not carrying too much baggage and and like you said,
Speaker 1: you need a secure person that can just be like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, you're good. And that's I feel like that's
Speaker 1: something you had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I feel like I was tricked because I
Speaker 2: feel like I was having to work too hard for
Speaker 2: John at the beginning.
Speaker 1: But that's just because.
Speaker 2: He's not actually well, you know what, John is a
Speaker 2: little bit of a avoid, isn't He's a little m
Speaker 2: a little bit and he hadn't been in like many
Speaker 2: relationships before me he had, but he was like not
Speaker 2: that into it, and I was worried that I would be.
Speaker 2: I just was always worried he didn't like me enough,
Speaker 2: which allowed me, It freed me up to be like
Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure of him all the time, like
Speaker 2: not totally be my guy, I am madly in love
Speaker 2: because he didn't seem like he was well, So.
Speaker 1: The spark happened exactly at the right time. It all
Speaker 1: kind of came together at the right time. And then
Speaker 1: through whatever your trials and tribulations, like you stuck by
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, and you became healthier and healthier, both
Speaker 1: of you, you know, and like, yeah we were we
Speaker 1: talked everything out and then yeah, but I definitely like
Speaker 1: think I freaked out at some point when I realized,
Speaker 1: oh no, he really is madly in love with me.
Speaker 1: Yeah I could, Yes, I totally. I used to be
Speaker 1: able to be Okay, I was in the Remember, I
Speaker 1: was in very a lot of long term relationships, and
Speaker 1: I would just sort of settle in. I'd love them
Speaker 1: and I would love having a boyfriend and all that,
Speaker 1: but I was never that excited. I was never like like,
Speaker 1: this is my purse. I just never I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's like I can't have that unless there's like always
Speaker 1: a bit of a challenge. And then when they would
Speaker 1: eventually sense that, well, after six years of me not
Speaker 1: even wanted to give them a key to my apartment, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: And then they would go, well, what is this? How
Speaker 1: do you feel? Right? And then you would say I
Speaker 1: mean I love you, Yeah, exactly, I love you. I
Speaker 1: love this, and they're like, but I only see you
Speaker 1: twice a week, and like I want to travel more
Speaker 1: and I want to go though, ye, well this week
Speaker 1: is good for me. It's a little much for me,
Speaker 1: to be honest. I mean, my thing was like I
Speaker 1: really would be cool with that duplex thing, or you
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I guess I've always been a little
Speaker 1: like that and just didn't realize it or something something.
Speaker 2: But then okay, but then when the guy was being
Speaker 2: like that, let me ask you this. When the guy
Speaker 2: was the one who was like, yeah, twice a week
Speaker 2: is like a lot for me, you know, and I
Speaker 2: could think of somebody who was pretty like avoided that
Speaker 2: we both experienced. Did you feel a pining did you
Speaker 2: feel like, oh my god, why doesn't he want to
Speaker 2: see me every day with Pug or yeah, with anybody,
Speaker 2: with anybody that you well, if it was Pug, no,
Speaker 2: like it was perfect. Oh, it was absolutely perfect.
Speaker 1: I saw him once or twice a week, sometimes three,
Speaker 1: but sometimes one, and I never really felt the pining
Speaker 1: was just enough where I'd be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: am I going to hear from him? Like what concerts
Speaker 1: are he gonna invite me to? Or is he not?
Speaker 1: You know, I got that dopamine hit. He always did.
Speaker 1: I saw him a lot actually, so you never.
Speaker 2: Had any like sense of pining or wanting more from him.
Speaker 1: No, I think I did. I mean I definitely had
Speaker 1: some anxiety around him, you know, being really hot and
Speaker 1: cold as a person. So I definitely had that anxiety.
Speaker 1: But I think we saw each other the right amount.
Speaker 2: So if he'd been less hot and cold but also
Speaker 2: didn't need to see that much you would it would
Speaker 2: have been fine.
Speaker 1: I think so. I think. So we're so interesting. So
Speaker 1: what precipitated him the breakup with Hug? Which one with Pug? Oh?
Speaker 1: He did. He just said he'd never love me. Remember,
Speaker 1: he took me to a show or something. We went
Speaker 1: out and then he walked me home to my apartment
Speaker 1: into the and he was like, I just want to
Speaker 1: talk to you real quick, and then he was pretty high,
Speaker 1: and then he's just like, I'm sorry, I feel really bad.
Speaker 1: He was actually pretty nice about it. He was like,
Speaker 1: I just don't think I'm gonna ever really get there.
Speaker 1: And it was a very calm. It was actually one
Speaker 1: of my best breakups. I like handled it. I didn't
Speaker 1: freak out, I didn't bag, I didn't do anything. And
Speaker 1: then he said almost he goes, I'd gotten you theater
Speaker 1: tickets for your birthday? Would you still want to go?
Speaker 1: And I mean that was already ten times more than
Speaker 1: most guys. So I was like, yes, that was fine,
Speaker 1: and we went and did he try to kiss you?
Speaker 1: Oh no, you mean goodbye after he broke up with me.
Speaker 2: No, I mean like when he when he took you
Speaker 2: to something for your birthday?
Speaker 1: Oh no no. And he never like we never made out.
Speaker 1: There was no we didn't like kiss at concerts or
Speaker 1: dinner or anything. He wasn't very PDA. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember that, but he was. It was very compartmentalized. Yes,
Speaker 1: you were doing this thing and now you're doing this thing,
Speaker 1: and now you're back and maybe I'll do this. But
Speaker 1: it was actually a very kind he, you know, he said,
Speaker 1: he said it relatively kindly, and I handled it well
Speaker 1: and oh fine, and you.
Speaker 2: Didn't you didn't feel like why why won't he like?
Speaker 1: Oh, I fell apart after he let Oh my god, Laura,
Speaker 1: you know, we should get Laura on the show. My
Speaker 1: friend Laura's wish. Sure she'd be like, oh, you weren't
Speaker 1: that fine, But I was in front of him. I
Speaker 1: was fine. Oh I've melted down, of course. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was so upset. And she listened for hours, you know,
Speaker 1: and tried to be nice about like, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's the guy though, you know, like I just don't
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 2: I just don't see what anytime I see a picture
Speaker 2: of him, and I saw one because I was looking
Speaker 2: up and we can talk about this briefly. We talked
Speaker 2: about it on Cringe, so that's up today too. But
Speaker 2: I was looking up a picture of John Reap, who
Speaker 2: is a comedian. We discussed this and who was charged.
Speaker 2: He's in jail. Maybe he has several counts of child
Speaker 2: sexual exploitation. And anyway, I was looking at some pictures
Speaker 2: of him because I was looking at last comic standing.
Speaker 2: And my point is every time I see Hug Penson,
Speaker 2: it's like a jump scare.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ewe, you don't know, you don't but
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: And I had had a recent one where it's just
Speaker 2: like a literal jumps where I'm just like.
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, well, it's odd different and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I just was like, I can't believe I ever that
Speaker 2: was a full on for me, full on avoidant. And
Speaker 2: I was like, I will I will make that avoidant, man, mine,
Speaker 2: I will fix the thing. I will be I will
Speaker 2: feel free to go to love hard because this guy
Speaker 2: is never going to be even nice to me.
Speaker 1: I so was get that and I and I definitely
Speaker 1: experienced that as well. I guess my thing was just
Speaker 1: sort of I knew, I kind of kind of knew
Speaker 1: what I was signing up for in an a right
Speaker 1: way because but because mine went on for a while,
Speaker 1: I think I thought I was being sort of chosen, yes,
Speaker 1: like in this weird way, even though one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: if I could go back with like I go go
Speaker 1: back and watch myself and watch the whole thing play out,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, sweetie of god, no, that's not
Speaker 1: how that goes like, that's not that, ain't it right?
Speaker 1: You know? No, that guy should when you go to
Speaker 1: the improv the next day after you slept over, he
Speaker 1: should talk to you. Yeah, maybe or make eye contact. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember he wouldn't walk me to the car after
Speaker 1: we'd gone. I'd been you know, like we've been hooking
Speaker 1: up for a long time and night, I mean like
Speaker 1: a couple times a week. He wouldn't walk me to
Speaker 1: the improv, I mean to the to my car at
Speaker 1: one in the morning. And then and I think it
Speaker 1: was before he got jumped. Remember he got jumped in
Speaker 1: that Fred Seagull parking lot. Yes, So I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if it was before or after that, because if it
Speaker 1: had set, yeah, maybe it just wasn't a very good set.
Speaker 1: He was went out to smoke weed with like two
Speaker 1: other people and not no, not Hug Penson. He didn't
Speaker 1: go smoke weed. You must be confusing him with a
Speaker 1: different Well, he was with Zoe and I want to say,
Speaker 1: like Aukerman or something. Yeah, yes, and they went and
Speaker 1: they got like they got pot Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So imagine if it was before he would like if
Speaker 1: it was beforehand, and then he still wouldn't walk me out. Well,
Speaker 1: it was after, So either way, it's an interesting story
Speaker 1: because if it was before, if he'd already been jumped
Speaker 1: and would not walk me to the car, that's horrible. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Abby was there and Obvi's like I'll walk her.
Speaker 1: Because I remember saying like, can you walk me? He's like,
Speaker 1: I'll walk you. I mean, it was so sad. But
Speaker 1: if it was before, I mean, that's just cruel. But
Speaker 1: if it was after, that's just karma. I mean that
Speaker 1: I really I think. Uh. In conclusion, Yeah, it worn't great,
Speaker 1: and we I think we both like people like that,
Speaker 1: get people like us that, you know, to be way
Speaker 1: too kind and stick around way too long. Yes, and
Speaker 1: then they they settle when they settle, because I think
Speaker 1: they don't ever settle. He has a longtime girlfriend, I think,
Speaker 1: but I think that they just had to get keep
Speaker 1: getting a little younger, you know, like whatever. He's in
Speaker 1: his six mid sixties. Yeah, so then they've got to
Speaker 1: be probably I don't know, forty, they've got to be
Speaker 1: at least they couldn't be close in age or whatever.
Speaker 1: That's not going to work out. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I do hope he's happy if I saw him, I'd
Speaker 1: be happy to see him. That's the truth. I have
Speaker 1: no hard feelings for that guy. That's the truth, Ruth.
Speaker 1: There's been so much worse, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like that guy is just he's just bumbling along.
Speaker 2: You don't know, Yeah, I mean, you know it's listen,
Speaker 2: if I think about it in a more how should
Speaker 2: I say empathetic more from his perspective?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Of course I was so mad. I mean I was
Speaker 1: raging mad.
Speaker 2: At the fact that, but really what I was mad
Speaker 2: at was that he wasn't going to love me either. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and also that he decided to leave a message on
Speaker 2: my voicemail.
Speaker 1: Well that's kind of shitty. Well it just like it means.
Speaker 2: But also if he wasn't into me, like what is
Speaker 2: the point really? If I think about it, of like,
Speaker 2: what are we supposed to go to lunch? And then
Speaker 2: you have to make a big pronouncement that like we're done,
Speaker 2: Like I think I.
Speaker 1: Think a person phone call. I think a phone call
Speaker 1: like where he gets reaches me on the phone and
Speaker 1: tells me you're actually madder and like your response matters and
Speaker 1: he has to hear it. I think is fair? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think. I think though, when.
Speaker 2: I when I look at relationships and like other people's
Speaker 2: relationships and see both sides, he wasn't going to I
Speaker 2: chose somebody who wasn't going to love me or right,
Speaker 2: and who didn't who.
Speaker 1: Was very distant. Chose that, chose somebody who was never
Speaker 1: even nice to me.
Speaker 2: Then I got really mad at the consequence of that choice,
Speaker 2: which was that he wasn't really that into me, and
Speaker 2: then told me in a voicemail, which is not It
Speaker 2: kind of tracks that like, hey, similar to you, I'm
Speaker 2: just not going to ever be able to meet your like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to really love you. It's not this
Speaker 2: isn't really going to go anywhere. And sorry I'm leaving
Speaker 2: this on your voicemail, but I would just be too
Speaker 2: worried that I would like try to make out with
Speaker 2: you or something if we were in person, because you're
Speaker 2: so pretty something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's a better That was a better breakup
Speaker 1: than I got, now, you know. Then Then at the time, though,
Speaker 1: I was so mad about it, because I was like, oh, really,
Speaker 1: you would just be too overwhelmed with lust to be
Speaker 1: able to hold hold to your like, I'm not into
Speaker 1: you like, what the fuck? That feels fake as fuck?
Speaker 1: And I was very mad.
Speaker 2: And then you know, and then he did the same thing,
Speaker 2: which was he was like, hey, like a little very
Speaker 2: short time later, he's like, hey, you want to go
Speaker 2: to like a show.
Speaker 1: But not dating. And he got me like a birthday
Speaker 1: present that was Oh my god. It was like a
Speaker 1: It was like a ceed little it's like a little
Speaker 1: knife that you open. He gave me that too, got
Speaker 1: that too. He got like a fucking bulk. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I got exactly, I got a whole little package of them.
Speaker 1: Oh like, well I didn't get a package. I think
Speaker 1: I got one.
Speaker 2: He was like, hey, I'm going to give this to Cecily,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna hold one back.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's hilarious. What do you call those things? Remember? Exactly?
Speaker 1: I still I kept it for a long time while
Speaker 1: I still had CDs. And it looked like one of
Speaker 1: those things yellow. It was yellow, and it looked it
Speaker 1: was designed to look like one of those things that
Speaker 1: you put in the middle of a forty five to
Speaker 1: play it on your stare, to play it on your turntable. Correct, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I got I got one of those. We all
Speaker 1: all did anybody anybody with the last name Silverman got it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got it, and I got taken.
Speaker 2: I got taken to a concert by I always. I've
Speaker 2: told you this many times and then I can never remember.
Speaker 2: Oh semi sonic, the ones that close in time.
Speaker 1: God, you don't have to go home, but you can.
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of bands that I was not into.
Speaker 1: I saw Jesus and Mary Chain with him.
Speaker 2: He would I would just go, of course, because I
Speaker 2: was like, you'd invite me to a show and I'd
Speaker 2: be like cool, and then I wouldn't. We did not
Speaker 2: have the same taste in music. But I do remember
Speaker 2: that I got that as a gift, and I was like,
Speaker 2: is he going to try to make out with me?
Speaker 1: Which is why I asked you? And know he sure didn't.
Speaker 1: He was. He's very compartmentalist. He was able to and
Speaker 1: I kind of like that because you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of like staying friends with people, and
Speaker 1: I don't like there to be muddy waters. So I
Speaker 1: was ye with that. I didn't really want to make
Speaker 1: out that much anyway, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is the nice part is going to
Speaker 1: the concert. I would just rather talk to me if
Speaker 1: you see me out somewhere.
Speaker 2: But I felt confused and then would get drunk and
Speaker 2: start to fights with him because he would always be around.
Speaker 2: So then he would show up at other people's like
Speaker 2: at things that he knew I was going.
Speaker 1: To be at, and I was just like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? Why are you here? And I would be
Speaker 1: drunk and mad. I mean, anyway, I think drinking. You
Speaker 1: talked about him for a long time over many episodes,
Speaker 1: and we have. In fact, even in the five years
Speaker 1: that we've been doing the show, I've changed my I'm like,
Speaker 1: I love the guy. I think it could be cool,
Speaker 1: but I think we should have him. How do we
Speaker 1: get him on the show? How do we probably still
Speaker 1: have his number? I might, I might still have his number.
Speaker 1: He like, I don't know. I don't think he'd do it, though,
Speaker 1: because how do I say, like, we have talked about
Speaker 1: you at length, not always in the most positive Like
Speaker 1: I have to tell him that, like how do we
Speaker 1: do that without like really but really okay? And I
Speaker 1: know that this has like been a this has been
Speaker 1: a an epiphany episode for me, But really, if I
Speaker 1: think about it, with all the shitty things that I
Speaker 1: say about him.
Speaker 2: It's really not his fault, Like he was just living
Speaker 2: his life and like he's a he's got to he's avoided.
Speaker 2: Like if I think about Okay, was he ever? Was
Speaker 2: he a mean to me? Not really he did. He
Speaker 2: did try to shame me, and we both have our
Speaker 2: own story and now we can't remember.
Speaker 1: Who was who's one of us?
Speaker 2: One of us got shamed about disliking Kathy Griffin, and
Speaker 2: one of us got shamed about the show Friends.
Speaker 1: You're this was Friends, and mine was Kathy Griffin. I
Speaker 1: just said I just didn't think she was a very
Speaker 1: good actress. And he's like, nobody asked for your opinion,
Speaker 1: con solicited. I mean, I guess, how do we have
Speaker 1: him on as a guest? How do we do this?
Speaker 1: Like I think we owe him an apology? Is what
Speaker 1: what we're learning? I could say. Listen, for five years
Speaker 1: we talked about like how because remember how we almost
Speaker 1: named the show after him yep, the Punk Penson experience,
Speaker 1: except that we were just going to use his actual name.
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, we're not going to give
Speaker 1: that fuck or the satisfaction of us naming our entire
Speaker 1: podcast after him, because you know there have been also
Speaker 1: like episodes where you saw him like that when he
Speaker 1: saw him at the poker thing recently. It's like, we'd
Speaker 1: have to take that down if we if we asked
Speaker 1: him to be a guest on the show, and you
Speaker 1: guys let us know.
Speaker 2: No, because he's so self centered, he'd never go back
Speaker 2: and listen to old episodes.
Speaker 1: But somebody will tell him. We have people to tell
Speaker 1: people things. So you guys, guys, if you want to
Speaker 1: have a fun experience, you can't fuck with us. Don't
Speaker 1: do the same thing. Yeah, we're trying to do a thing.
Speaker 1: We're trying to heal. Don't fuck with our healing. I'm serious.
Speaker 1: I think we should have him on the show. I
Speaker 1: swear to God. And we'll just say hey, through the years,
Speaker 1: we've we've kind of gone through a rollercoaster of our
Speaker 1: feelings about you. We did mock some of the highness.
Speaker 1: Now he's not so cool that he'd be cool with it.
Speaker 1: Though he's not as laid back as you know, Oh
Speaker 1: he's not. He'd be very much. We've seen stuff. We've
Speaker 1: seen YouTube videos where he like stormed out of podcasts
Speaker 1: because he decided everybody was stupid. He was a Haitian
Speaker 1: and shouldn't have to put up with people. And they
Speaker 1: were like, wait, are you joking? And he was not joking.
Speaker 1: He gets these like spikes. I defended him, remember, because
Speaker 1: I was like, I know he has back pain, and
Speaker 1: I do think he gets like spikes of back pain
Speaker 1: and that makes him like lash out. That's what I
Speaker 1: want to believe. I don't want him to have that.
Speaker 1: But how do we get him on the show and
Speaker 1: erase everything we've talked. We'd have to go through like
Speaker 1: we're not doing that. I refuse, I refuse. Then we
Speaker 1: don't have him on the show.
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Speaker 1: love with. Yeah, all right, you guys, well we love you,
Speaker 1: We thank you. Not sorry today? I feel like we
Speaker 1: really made some are we sorry? No, we're not sorry today?
Speaker 1: No sorry, no, no, well no wait, I am a
Speaker 1: little sorry. I made some mistakes. I should have driven
Speaker 1: that guy to the airport.
Speaker 2: Okay, well you're sorry for that, but you're not sorry
Speaker 2: for the show.
Speaker 1: No, okay, all right, bye bye