Speaker 1: Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Today,
Speaker 1: I want to welcome back to the show Frank Jacob.
Speaker 1: He is an international award winning filmmaker, presenter, visual artist, musician,
Speaker 1: and composer. His recent films and research explore the frontiers
Speaker 1: of consciousness raising subjects. Frank, welcome back. How you doing.
Speaker 2: Good to see it, Chris, Yeah, I'm doing good. It's
Speaker 2: been a crazy time and you have a new presidence.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is a crazy time President new old president.
Speaker 1: President very I'll say, just interesting things unfolding right now.
Speaker 1: To stay the least. Now, today we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about your online webinar time capsule for the Future past.
Speaker 1: This is what we're all about here. It examines humanity's
Speaker 1: hidden history, origins of the parasitic ruling class, what could
Speaker 1: be behind them and all sorts of ancient esoteric knowledge
Speaker 1: as well as where it has led humanity and maybe
Speaker 1: where would we could be possibly headed in the future.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm very excited about this. I
Speaker 1: love these topics. Before we dive too deep into this, though,
Speaker 1: it's been a while since you've been on, remind the
Speaker 1: audience a little bit about yourself and your work.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well sure, why not. It's a good place
Speaker 2: to start. Well, how did we meet the first time?
Speaker 2: Was it after the was it after my Looking Glass?
Speaker 2: It was before that?
Speaker 1: It was before that?
Speaker 2: Right? We were talking about my film Packing from Ours.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the first.
Speaker 2: Time Packing from Ours? Well, okay, so that's a good
Speaker 2: place to jump incil packing. So I am the director
Speaker 2: of a film called Packing from Mars, which was released
Speaker 2: almost going on ten years ago now, and that was
Speaker 2: a film that explored the crazy world of the press
Speaker 2: that was put forth by Leslie Watkins, the British author
Speaker 2: investigative journalist back then called Alternative three, which was itself
Speaker 2: a novel version of a sort of a mockumentary put
Speaker 2: out by a English science report show that kind of
Speaker 2: talked about a breakaway civilization setting up calling them Mars.
Speaker 2: So that set me on a well, I mean, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't plan on making a film about it, but it
Speaker 2: kind of became the topic for me to venture into
Speaker 2: doing my first sort of cinematic version. I've been making
Speaker 2: films and I've I've come out of the music business,
Speaker 2: you know, so I wanted to make something which was
Speaker 2: you know, rich and you know, like cinematic worthy you
Speaker 2: could sit in a theater and watch it, because a
Speaker 2: lot of these fringe topics are underproduced. The videos at
Speaker 2: that time were really garbled looking. So I thought, okay,
Speaker 2: well here I have the ability to do this, so
Speaker 2: why not. And that sort of set me on to
Speaker 2: a a trajectory, Okay, that's a good word for it,
Speaker 2: leading into kind of this fringe material for better or
Speaker 2: for worse, and I try to keep my feet on
Speaker 2: the ground, in my head up in the clouds, you know,
Speaker 2: so I can explore kind of you know, these ideas
Speaker 2: and yet still try to kind of find something you
Speaker 2: can hold on to, something that makes it, you know, plausible,
Speaker 2: or what would be you know, what part of it
Speaker 2: would make it plausible, and just to kind of keep
Speaker 2: us from you know, going way out there, because as
Speaker 2: we know, since then, there's been so many way out
Speaker 2: ideas about secret space programs and whatnot, so you don't
Speaker 2: even really know what's true anymore. And we know that
Speaker 2: there's a massive movement out there of disinformation as well,
Speaker 2: so that after that, you know, a lot of series
Speaker 2: of things happened. We released a film called Solar Revolution,
Speaker 2: Clouds Down the Chronicles you know, a lot of talks,
Speaker 2: a lot of live appearances, and eventually started to venture
Speaker 2: into webinars as a result of a crazy story act
Speaker 2: covered about something called the Guardians of the Looking Glass,
Speaker 2: which then went into the tangent of that looking glass technology. Uh,
Speaker 2: and you know time travel and parallel worlds and and
Speaker 2: you know past future interactions and things like that. Those
Speaker 2: are topics that fascinate me. So that's how that whole
Speaker 2: thing started. And ever since then I've been, yeah, venturing
Speaker 2: down that avenue because webinars seem to be a lot easier,
Speaker 2: or let's say, not easier actually than not easier at all.
Speaker 2: What am I saying? They're cult I mean they're hard
Speaker 2: in terms of the research, but they're faster to produce
Speaker 2: than a film is because film requires you know, setting appointments,
Speaker 2: making filming things, edding it and all making it look
Speaker 2: pretty and stuff. And we are releasing a film actually
Speaker 2: right now. It's called The Extraterrestrial Species Almanac with Greg
Speaker 2: Campobasso and my partner Tani Maiden for it, so that
Speaker 2: one's coming out. Look for it. It's been about there soon.
Speaker 2: So that's my world. You know, crazy fringe stuff and
Speaker 2: all those topics, and I try to kind of keep
Speaker 2: myself abreast of, you know, what's going on and how
Speaker 2: to tie current events into these amazing informations, you know,
Speaker 2: and of course the latest thing being nostigists.
Speaker 1: There has been a huge resurgence of gnostic understandings and
Speaker 1: research into this, and I really love what you're doing
Speaker 1: and what you've been doing. You're paving the way for
Speaker 1: a lot of creative endeavors and people who were on
Speaker 1: the fence about starting things because I think right now
Speaker 1: is the time for people like yourself, for myself to
Speaker 1: take over the entertainment space because it's crumbling. People are
Speaker 1: seeing what's really behind it. It's not even about entertainment anymore.
Speaker 1: It's about propaganda. It's about brainwashing. And independent creators like
Speaker 1: yourself and many others that have started to come out
Speaker 1: of the woodwork and produce their own content is becoming
Speaker 1: way more popular than a lot of the mainstream bullshit
Speaker 1: that we're subjected to right now. So it's a very
Speaker 1: very exciting time that we're in now. Give us well.
Speaker 2: Totally, yeah, you're right, I agree with you. I agree,
Speaker 2: And that's actually part of the motivation to make webinars
Speaker 2: because they're like courses, you know, like it's like deep dive.
Speaker 2: You want to go into it. Like a film, Okay,
Speaker 2: an hour and a half, you can only cover so
Speaker 2: much in seventy to ninety minutes, but like a course,
Speaker 2: you can really take the time and explore stuff and work,
Speaker 2: you know, work through the material because a lot of
Speaker 2: the stuff is actually you know, it's you know, it's
Speaker 2: hard for people to grasp some of this stuff. So
Speaker 2: it's good to kind of spend a little more time,
Speaker 2: you know, to to work through it.
Speaker 1: Anyway, give us a synopsis of the webinar and we'll
Speaker 1: kind of break down the sections and dissect it a
Speaker 1: little bit as we go.
Speaker 2: Well, essentially, I started to, you know, look at doing
Speaker 2: a webinar about kind of a favorite topic of mine
Speaker 2: that's been I've been inserting little bits of it into
Speaker 2: the webinars. It has to do with timelines and and
Speaker 2: fake history, or let's just say revisionist history being the
Speaker 2: antidote to fake history. And revisionist history is a you know,
Speaker 2: kind of a dangerous word. It's almost like a you know,
Speaker 2: four letter word in a lot of circles because you know,
Speaker 2: revision implies that you revise something and you rework it.
Speaker 2: And I think we're living in a time now, and
Speaker 2: you talked on it, you touched on it a little bit,
Speaker 2: that we're we're tired of the you know, the mainstream
Speaker 2: media because we've been we're realizing we've been fed a
Speaker 2: lot of propaganda. And you can realize and you can understand.
Speaker 2: I think anyone can understand that if you've been if
Speaker 2: it's clear to you that what you're seeing in the
Speaker 2: current events on the mainstream media and is a propaganda,
Speaker 2: then well, by extrapolation, you can kind of go back
Speaker 2: in time and realize that at a time when we
Speaker 2: had no Internet and maybe one or two sources of news,
Speaker 2: that the tendency to be disinformed was exponentially higher than
Speaker 2: it is now. So I'm going back kind of like
Speaker 2: a consciousness archaeologist, you know, just sort of going into
Speaker 2: mine those events and trying to rework them because I
Speaker 2: think we need to heal, you know, society needs to
Speaker 2: heal to move forward, because if we're going to create.
Speaker 2: Everyone's talking about the fifth dimension, the new world and
Speaker 2: all this stuff, but if we're bringing all our baggage
Speaker 2: with us into this new timeline into this new world.
Speaker 2: It's not going to help us. We're just going to
Speaker 2: keep repeating the same you know, repeat rents, repeat rents.
Speaker 2: So let's go back and let's rework or revisit some
Speaker 2: of these key events and see how they shaped society.
Speaker 2: And if they aren't true, then you know, we need
Speaker 2: to make corrections. And so for me, history was one
Speaker 2: of the ways I wanted to do it, and I
Speaker 2: came across some you know, very very potent revisionist facts
Speaker 2: relating to the origins of World War Two, and you know,
Speaker 2: being in Germany, it's a very dangerous topic to be
Speaker 2: talking about that here, especially in terms of revision. So
Speaker 2: I have to always be very careful and mindful how
Speaker 2: I phrase things, because I don't want, you know, the
Speaker 2: thought police to come knocking on my door, and that
Speaker 2: does happen over here, you know. So I but I
Speaker 2: wanted to put this out there, and because I think
Speaker 2: it's important not just for German people, but people all
Speaker 2: over the world, because we've all been we've all built
Speaker 2: the paradigm of the modern world that we're living in
Speaker 2: now off of the twentieth century historical events, and if
Speaker 2: they're false, then I want to know about it, and
Speaker 2: I want to tell people what I've found so that
Speaker 2: they can look at the material for themselves and it
Speaker 2: just accordingly, but just to put it out like a
Speaker 2: dry historical I mean, it's an riveting topic. I kind
Speaker 2: of felt like I wanted to tie it into more
Speaker 2: of a forty thousand foot perspective, more of the spiritual
Speaker 2: element to it. And you know, and I stumbled onto
Speaker 2: some by tootal Fluke some information that ties into what
Speaker 2: you mentioned, what I mentioned earlier, gnosticism. Uh and in fact,
Speaker 2: because you know, you find out about if you're going
Speaker 2: back in time and you're looking at, you know, paradigms
Speaker 2: that were created for us to move society in a
Speaker 2: certain direction. You know that those paradigms are usually built
Speaker 2: on some some source material and you know they claim
Speaker 2: you know, origin, right, Like in Germany, there's the word
Speaker 2: for it. It's called trele. You know, it's like what
Speaker 2: is the source? Where does the spring come out of
Speaker 2: the ground? Right? That's that's kind of where you want
Speaker 2: to be tapping your information. And what I found out
Speaker 2: was that they're you know, the the gnostic material that
Speaker 2: was uncovered in nineteen forty five, at Nagamadi has has
Speaker 2: has actually has has actually not really been explained, you know,
Speaker 2: in a way that is true or neutral to what
Speaker 2: was truly found. And one author in particular out there,
Speaker 2: a guy called John Lamb Lash fell in my path,
Speaker 2: you know, and I was actually watching a video or
Speaker 2: two of his related to something totally different, and then
Speaker 2: I let it, you know, sit there for a while
Speaker 2: and I worked on some other things, and then suddenly
Speaker 2: this little voice came back to me and said, hey,
Speaker 2: you want to go check out some other stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: And that's what I kind of stumbled on his take.
Speaker 2: But then I realized that, okay, wait a minute, there's
Speaker 2: another take on that the Gnostic material which I thought
Speaker 2: I knew a little bit about, and I realized what
Speaker 2: I knew about Gnoscissism is wrong. So, you know, so
Speaker 2: okay wrong. You know, it's a strong word, right, But
Speaker 2: like the Gnostics like to say, there is no evil,
Speaker 2: there is only error, right, So there is error in
Speaker 2: terms of what people believe gnostics, the Gnostics were, and
Speaker 2: what gnosticism is. Because most of the people that have
Speaker 2: have revealed what gnosticisms about are scholars who are part
Speaker 2: of the you know, the educational system. They went to university,
Speaker 2: they have doctorates, and they're usually tied into some you know,
Speaker 2: theocratic you know, structure based on the Abrahamic religions for
Speaker 2: the most part, right, because they always tend to tie
Speaker 2: the Gnostics into early Christian the early Christian days, right
Speaker 2: two thousand years ago. And so they took the find
Speaker 2: at Nagamati, those scholars, and it's like, if you can
Speaker 2: imagine that, there's a good analogy John makes about it.
Speaker 2: It's like you find a pile of legos, you know,
Speaker 2: of the source legos, right, and why aren't everybody Why
Speaker 2: isn't everybody putting out the same material? It's one of
Speaker 2: the first questions, a legitimate question. Why does not all
Speaker 2: of it sort of point in the same direction. Well,
Speaker 2: you find out that the people that are part of
Speaker 2: that you know, you know, preordained way of thinking are
Speaker 2: going to try and fit what they find in those teachings,
Speaker 2: the source materials. They're gonna look for the fragments that
Speaker 2: that coincide with what they've been studying and researching, and
Speaker 2: whatever doesn't fit, they're gonna sort of you know, like
Speaker 2: when you're a filmmaker, you just cut it out, it
Speaker 2: lands on the cutting room floor, as they say, right,
Speaker 2: So a lot of really amazing material was left on
Speaker 2: the cutting room floor. And that's and that's the kind
Speaker 2: of stuff that actually Lash picked up, and he sort
Speaker 2: of took an approach like, let's look at them for
Speaker 2: what they were and not for what these you know,
Speaker 2: Judeo Christian people are trying to you know, make sense
Speaker 2: of in that material. And that's when the real picture
Speaker 2: of the Gnostics emerges. And that's the most fascinating part.
Speaker 2: So that part for me, and the and the and
Speaker 2: the critical part of that, I think has to do
Speaker 2: with an underlying force that's been moving and sort of
Speaker 2: in the background of humanity since the very beginning, corrupting it,
Speaker 2: corrupting the path that we're on. And he's the person
Speaker 2: that sort of brought that term back into circulation. The Arkans.
Speaker 2: You know, we've all heard that word, the arcons, and
Speaker 2: I didn't really know, you know, where it came from.
Speaker 2: I just started hearing the word are arcons about fifteen
Speaker 2: years ago or so, and I realized now that it
Speaker 2: was Lash that reintroduced that word, because he found all
Speaker 2: kinds of material in the Gnostic Knakamati writings about the
Speaker 2: Arkans Treaties strictly devoted about I think twenty percent of
Speaker 2: the writings are devoted to just that one topic. So wow,
Speaker 2: like one fifth of that topic is about arcons and
Speaker 2: no one's talking about it, like amazing, Right, So that
Speaker 2: was like for me, okay when I read that, and
Speaker 2: I realized, okay, wait a minute, here is kind of
Speaker 2: like you put the dots, you connect the dots, because
Speaker 2: I'm looking at World War two and you know what
Speaker 2: kind of a force be behind you know, an event
Speaker 2: as brutal and bloody as that, Like what would you know?
Speaker 2: What is really behind it? And so those two, those
Speaker 2: two seemingly diverse topics on one end of the spectrum
Speaker 2: ancient knowledge, an ancient source material matched up with current
Speaker 2: modern material. Actually, you know, I brought those two together,
Speaker 2: and that's what this webinar is all about.
Speaker 1: Excellent, that's a great introduction to it. How far back
Speaker 1: should we look when trying to get a better understanding
Speaker 1: of some of these gnostic beliefs and what new understandings?
Speaker 1: Maybe you could share a few that have come up
Speaker 1: for you through the research.
Speaker 2: Well how far back? Yeah? I mean, the thing is
Speaker 2: that you find out that, you know, like you can
Speaker 2: throw away the idea that the Gnostics were these early Christians.
Speaker 2: You find out that there's several branches of gnosticism, and
Speaker 2: what most people identify with with gnoscissism in terms of
Speaker 2: the Christianity aspect, like esoteric Christian sect of kind of
Speaker 2: like you know, esoteric freaks that are that are busy
Speaker 2: trying to you know, introduce ideas into Christianity. Well, that's
Speaker 2: one aspect of it. But that's something you might actually
Speaker 2: call Valentinian gnostissism, because there is a sky called Valentine,
Speaker 2: and he brought in aspects of true gnoscissism. But because
Speaker 2: the Gnostics were being literally persecuted, eradicated, wiped off the
Speaker 2: surface of the earth, he conformed the material to fit
Speaker 2: into the Christian narrative. And so what most and that's
Speaker 2: what has survived for the most part, and that's what
Speaker 2: people for the most part think that Gnostics are. But
Speaker 2: what actually happened is that the Gnostic teachings preceded that
Speaker 2: time by about estimates of around four thousand years, right,
Speaker 2: so we're talking about six thousand years ago. And they
Speaker 2: didn't call himself of gnostics. That's a term that the
Speaker 2: Church fathers called them, because we think of the word
Speaker 2: gnosis as meaning to know, like knowledge, spiritual knowledge, but
Speaker 2: to the Christians, it was more of a slander term
Speaker 2: like smart ass, you know, the know it alls right.
Speaker 2: So they actually called themselves Teleisti, and the telesty were like,
Speaker 2: you know, if you could think of the intellectual mystics
Speaker 2: of the ancient times, they would you know, they would
Speaker 2: practice mysticism, they would do entheogenic substances, and they would
Speaker 2: also not do them. But they there was thousands of
Speaker 2: years of precursor to two thousand years ago where they
Speaker 2: had developed a deep understanding of these other other reality,
Speaker 2: other levels of reality, and that was documented in the
Speaker 2: Library of Alexandria, for example, was one of the great
Speaker 2: sources of that information that was gathered and collected, and
Speaker 2: it was you can imagine, I mean, you know, they
Speaker 2: had artifacts, they had maps, they I mean the writings,
Speaker 2: I mean the rich tapestry of knowledge that ancient humanity
Speaker 2: had gathered. They accumulated it, they sorted it, they cataloged it,
Speaker 2: they preserved it, and they protected it and they taught it.
Speaker 2: But of course it was contradictory to the emerging idea
Speaker 2: of Christianity. So the main it's the main difference you
Speaker 2: might say, between the Gnostics that I learned. I think
Speaker 2: that's the hardcore thing is the Gnostics didn't believe in
Speaker 2: the Abrahamic version of the off planet Yahweh. For them,
Speaker 2: they were around at a time where they knew what
Speaker 2: was behind this off planet alien god, and they saw
Speaker 2: that as the Arkans. And so their idea of Yahweh
Speaker 2: and the Ylohem and Malchizedic is basically a demented alien
Speaker 2: off planet god posing as a god but being a
Speaker 2: fake god and basically duping certain people at that time
Speaker 2: to adhere, like making promises right. And this is where
Speaker 2: something comes about that they call master race ideology. So
Speaker 2: there's one race which is chosen by the Yahweh right
Speaker 2: to be the inheritor of the planet right. And this
Speaker 2: is an ideology which has of course informed all of
Speaker 2: the abraham Abrahamic religions. And here where the Gnostics saying, Nope, guys,
Speaker 2: that's soologists fake. Forget it, don't get into it. It's
Speaker 2: about our knowledge. We don't pass information along through bloodlines.
Speaker 2: We don't have authority issued through bloodlines. We have authority
Speaker 2: issued through knowledge. We passed knowledge about our true history,
Speaker 2: knowledge about the reality on and that's where you gain power,
Speaker 2: not through you know, bloodlines or fake kingships and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. So of course you can understand at a
Speaker 2: time where this was trying to get to sort of
Speaker 2: set roots along. You know, the Gnostics were a pain
Speaker 2: in the butt for these people, and so this is
Speaker 2: why they began to basically eradicate them, and unfortunately that
Speaker 2: resulted in the burning down of the Library Alexandria, the
Speaker 2: legendary as they say, who knows if it was all
Speaker 2: burned down, but we know maybe a large part of
Speaker 2: it is now in the Vatican. But you know, the
Speaker 2: key word here is that information was literally disappeared from
Speaker 2: the planet and the only fragments we have left of
Speaker 2: it are what they found at Nagamadi in nineteen forty five.
Speaker 2: So that's a good starting place.
Speaker 1: Yet there, I can definitely understand why there is a
Speaker 1: reemergence in interest in some of these gnostic concepts, because
Speaker 1: we're starting to realize how fundamentally parasitic and anti human
Speaker 1: most of the systems are that govern our reality. And
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine that someone that is human would
Speaker 1: be able to carry out a lot of the agendas.
Speaker 1: They seem so anti human, and it's it's only natural
Speaker 1: that people would gravitate towards Oh well, that would mean
Speaker 1: that our reality maybe can by some non human intelligence.
Speaker 1: And it's easy for many to come to that conclusion
Speaker 1: right now, just because of the way our reality is
Speaker 1: set up.
Speaker 2: Totally. And I think this is this is a point,
Speaker 2: this is going to be a point of great contention
Speaker 2: in the in the future, because if you know, there's
Speaker 2: really there's this, I mean you've probably noticed it. And
Speaker 2: and when I was doing my deep dive into this material,
Speaker 2: I noticed that John Nolan was coming out with this
Speaker 2: you know, religious stuff about Buglini, you know, more Bugleani,
Speaker 2: and he was talking about the interpretation of certain words
Speaker 2: in the Bible being you know, he re represented them
Speaker 2: in terms of what their definition might be in context
Speaker 2: of an extraterrestrial influence. Right. And then of course, on
Speaker 2: top of that we have the whole outcropping of the
Speaker 2: Annaki story, which you know, of course was literally you
Speaker 2: could say, set in motion by I think Sachuraia Sitchen
Speaker 2: is probably a safe bet. And you know, Jordan Maxwell
Speaker 2: and others gravitated to his research, and it kind of
Speaker 2: grew from there that there's this sort of you know,
Speaker 2: off planet alien intrusion on our planet, you know. And
Speaker 2: I think the point here that's going to be difficult
Speaker 2: to navigate is going to be because these stories on
Speaker 2: the Sumerian Cuneiform tablets, which are considered the oldest written
Speaker 2: form of the historical record of humanity, indicate that there
Speaker 2: was this off like this extraterrestrial element or you could
Speaker 2: say this the gods from the sky kind of thing, right,
Speaker 2: But you've got to realize that that material in itself
Speaker 2: was written by well whom it would be. Obviously, the
Speaker 2: kings of those days would have court scribes, right, and
Speaker 2: a lot of those court scribes were mystics, and so
Speaker 2: the kings had them, you know, to memorialize them their
Speaker 2: lives and their legacies for all time. They had them
Speaker 2: present themselves of course in this light, right, But there's
Speaker 2: no there's no way to determine whether that information was
Speaker 2: true or not. It was just put down by the
Speaker 2: court scribes, and it's going to be very biased. So,
Speaker 2: you know, the the Gnostics, they basically came forward at
Speaker 2: a time when this material was getting out there, and
Speaker 2: they said, no, that's a that's this info. Actually this
Speaker 2: is not true, you know, there was no the Ananaki.
Speaker 2: For them were the Arkans. And the Arkans are indeed
Speaker 2: an alien species, and they are definitely off planet, but
Speaker 2: they are not a superior species to the human race.
Speaker 2: They are a mimetic species, and they are an offshoot
Speaker 2: of the whole creation process of what came to be
Speaker 2: planet Earth and the anthropost which then is us. And
Speaker 2: that story has a whole backstory which was documented in
Speaker 2: the Nagamody materials called the Fallen Goddess scenario, which John
Speaker 2: Lash reconstructed from the fragments that were left behind, and
Speaker 2: that really makes it clear that this alien presence is
Speaker 2: one that's not based on superior technology or whatever. It's
Speaker 2: based on mimicking, mimicry of what they're envious of, and
Speaker 2: they're envious of the creative ability of humanity, and humanity
Speaker 2: is actually the peach, you know, We're it, you know,
Speaker 2: and planet Earth is the destination. And this idea is
Speaker 2: of course very controversial these days because everyone's trying to
Speaker 2: get us off planet. Right. They tell us that the
Speaker 2: Gnostics said, we are all sparks. We have a spark
Speaker 2: of divinity, and we're on a prison planet and we
Speaker 2: need to get off this planet. But that, again is
Speaker 2: the false version of narcissism. The true message of narcissism
Speaker 2: when you reconstruct it, is that Nope, we were actually
Speaker 2: brought here by our creator mothers So who actually turned
Speaker 2: herself into this planet and created a habitat for us
Speaker 2: to blossom and allow that genius potential to fruit to
Speaker 2: bear fruit. And it's been stopped and stunted and can
Speaker 2: interfered with and manipulated from the get go by this
Speaker 2: external alien presence, which is the Arkans, which are a
Speaker 2: stunted version of humanity, but they preceded us, and they're
Speaker 2: excellent at doing something called the gnostic The Coptic word
Speaker 2: for it is called hell, which is to use simulation
Speaker 2: to trick us into believing things, and they can. If
Speaker 2: they can trick us into believing something, then it's almost
Speaker 2: as good as it's actually being true. But there's a
Speaker 2: difference between something being true and just being tricked into
Speaker 2: believing something is true. Right, So this is one of
Speaker 2: the main points I think of contention that we're going
Speaker 2: to have to work through to get to the truth
Speaker 2: of the whole story.
Speaker 1: I consider many different perspectives from researchers that I've had
Speaker 1: on the show, and recently there's many that consider a
Speaker 1: different possibility when it comes to what the Arkans are,
Speaker 1: mainly that they could be some sort of archetypal or
Speaker 1: spiritual intelligence rather than extraterrestrial, something that may reside in
Speaker 1: layers of our reality that we can't perceive, some sort
Speaker 1: of energetic intelligence that has the effect to control our
Speaker 1: perception and interact with us in different ways, but may
Speaker 1: not necessarily be a physical entity.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the question always is where are they
Speaker 2: deriving the material that they're basing those ideas on, right,
Speaker 2: Is it channeled information? Is it just inspiration? If you
Speaker 2: really want to find the first written indication of what
Speaker 2: the Arkans were defined as, it's there for us to read, right,
Speaker 2: it's right there and the true story, untarnished by anything.
Speaker 2: It's like and they describe who they are. They're both
Speaker 2: a physical and a mental presence. They're also outside of
Speaker 2: our They're also they also embody you could say, the
Speaker 2: astral spheres, right, so they are able to mess with
Speaker 2: our minds and in fact, the ability for them to
Speaker 2: penetrate into our bubble, into our biospheres. Limited they do
Speaker 2: try it, they do do it. In fact, there's there's
Speaker 2: actually accounts Chris of them abducting people over two thousand
Speaker 2: years ago. Right, So this is a this is one
Speaker 2: of the things that blew my mind. So, like you know,
Speaker 2: I think I'm open to all of this stuff. We
Speaker 2: need to discuss it all, but we should always look
Speaker 2: at where the source material came from and what it's
Speaker 2: telling us before we discount anything. Right, So if we
Speaker 2: already have material that goes back six thousand years that
Speaker 2: is telling us about this presence that is both in
Speaker 2: the mental and in the physical realms, but only limited
Speaker 2: to able to penetrate into our physical realm, but the
Speaker 2: danger being the mental part of it, that's something we
Speaker 2: should look at and read and see what's written there.
Speaker 2: And that's what I think is so fascinating about that story,
Speaker 2: because these tales of abduction, they're actually on record, and
Speaker 2: they actually even have instructions where certain of the teachers
Speaker 2: are telling gnostics the gnostic students like, look, you're gonna
Speaker 2: encounter them. They're gonna show up. Now, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: about three of them, and they're gonna look like there's
Speaker 2: two types that they could look like. One of them
Speaker 2: is going to look like in like an embryonic human
Speaker 2: with a spindly, skinny body, giant head and big eyes,
Speaker 2: like like a you know, like a aborted fetus in
Speaker 2: a way, and the other is going to look reptilian.
Speaker 2: And those are the two. Actually, it's interesting that those
Speaker 2: are the primary two entities which we kind of first
Speaker 2: became accustomed to in the twentieth century when people began
Speaker 2: talking about abduction scenarios, right, and then the whole reptilian agenda.
Speaker 2: We all hear a lot about these days on the
Speaker 2: UFO circles, right, Well, guess what, they already identified them
Speaker 2: over two thousand years ago, and they documented the encounters
Speaker 2: with those beings, and they warned us how to deal
Speaker 2: with them, and they told us specific instructions on how
Speaker 2: to deal with them. So I think that's really fascinating.
Speaker 1: One hundred. Now, I'd like to get into World War
Speaker 1: two a little bit and how these events may have
Speaker 1: indicated the arconic presence and what was really behind what
Speaker 1: unfolded during that time period.
Speaker 2: Well, we know, we know, I think that one of
Speaker 2: the prime. The two prime antagonistic forces in the Second
Speaker 2: World War were the Germans and the Jewish people. Right,
Speaker 2: So if you look at the origins of the the
Speaker 2: Arcontic penetration into our realm in terms of the Abrahamic religions,
Speaker 2: then you see that it was through Abraham that the
Speaker 2: first contact was made. And you know, there's a whole
Speaker 2: story about how they were able to penetrate into the
Speaker 2: neural network of Abraham and begin to formulate or like
Speaker 2: vicariously program their agenda of interference, and their interference of course,
Speaker 2: has to do with the again, this master race ideology
Speaker 2: and the idea of creating conflict between the human races,
Speaker 2: because if they can keep us fighting each other constantly,
Speaker 2: we are never going to, you know, reach a point
Speaker 2: where there's peace and we can fully develop an absolute
Speaker 2: peace and harmony on the planet, our full potential. So
Speaker 2: that began then, and that ideology which which is embodied
Speaker 2: in something they also found a year and a half
Speaker 2: after they found the Knackamadi, they found that in the
Speaker 2: Dead Sea Scrolls. You've probably heard of them. The Dead
Speaker 2: Sea Scrolls talk about a specific group of people that
Speaker 2: were living around the Dead Sea, and they were called
Speaker 2: the Zadig, and the Zadig basically were the ones where
Speaker 2: this ideology of the savior of you know this, I
Speaker 2: mean it's written the whole idea of malchis z dick right.
Speaker 2: The word Zadig is built right into Malchiza dick right.
Speaker 2: The righteous ones, the chosen ones. Right. This was kind
Speaker 2: of a mal program that was put into human consciousness
Speaker 2: and it kept going and going and going and developed
Speaker 2: a course into the Roman Catholic religion, right, and then
Speaker 2: you know, of course took you know, into the Judeo
Speaker 2: branch of it, and then the Christian branch of it,
Speaker 2: the j Judeo branch of course being the chosen people,
Speaker 2: the Christian being the rapture. Right, if you're righteous, you'll
Speaker 2: be taking off planet, right, So forget the planet. It's
Speaker 2: all in sin, humanities and sin. All these ideas they
Speaker 2: came from the Zadig, right. And so this is kind
Speaker 2: of a malware that was implanted into the neural net
Speaker 2: of the human species. And it grew over hundreds, of course,
Speaker 2: in thousands of years, and eventually, you know, you had
Speaker 2: a situation where where in Germany there was you know,
Speaker 2: the Jewish people and the German people were living together
Speaker 2: for centuries and total peace. Everyone minded their own business,
Speaker 2: did their own thing. And it was only as a
Speaker 2: result of this ideology that hey, wait a minute, like
Speaker 2: you know, we've been like you know, pushed around, kicked around,
Speaker 2: we've been kicked out of countries. We want our own country, right,
Speaker 2: And of course, you know, it's very expensive to kind
Speaker 2: of get your own country. You can't just sort of
Speaker 2: go and buy it. So there had to be some
Speaker 2: overwhelming presence to be able to get people to like
Speaker 2: some argument that you know that is superhuman that would
Speaker 2: enable them to justify taking staking claim on a particular
Speaker 2: piece of land. And I think we all know what
Speaker 2: piece of land that is. In fact, it's sort of
Speaker 2: you know, right in our faces right this day, right now,
Speaker 2: it's come back and it's the big you know, conflict
Speaker 2: going down in the Middle East again. Right Well, it
Speaker 2: had its roots there and it has its conclusion there.
Speaker 2: And the object of the Arkans has always been to
Speaker 2: create an apocalyptic like absolute showdown. If we can destroy
Speaker 2: ourselves in absolute mayhem, all right, you know we've done it, right,
Speaker 2: So this idea began to you know, really like take
Speaker 2: another level of dimension there were several stages I describe
Speaker 2: it in the webinar John I interviewed John lash throughout
Speaker 2: the whole thing, and he's got some very very interesting
Speaker 2: perspectives in terms of moment like moments in history where
Speaker 2: there was an escalation of certain ideologies and certain ideas
Speaker 2: that really kind of set us off on a crazy trajectory,
Speaker 2: and the last one, of course, being the Second World War,
Speaker 2: and that was preceded by the First World War, which
Speaker 2: is kind of the precursor to why we even had
Speaker 2: a Second World War, which many people believe was actually
Speaker 2: just a simple continuation of the First World War with
Speaker 2: a thirty year pause in the middle. So, you know,
Speaker 2: what you find out essentially is that this idea of
Speaker 2: you know, using that predestined chosen people ideology to support,
Speaker 2: you know, getting people to manipulate each other in order
Speaker 2: to provide a home base worked perfectly hand in hand
Speaker 2: with that ideology, and that kind of set in motion
Speaker 2: a kind of betrayal between those two people, you know,
Speaker 2: because they really did live and prosper and benefit from
Speaker 2: from each other, because both of them have incredible amounts
Speaker 2: of genius. I mean, it's undisputable that those two people.
Speaker 2: Those two peoples, the Germanic race and the Jewish race,
Speaker 2: have a certain inherent genius which is related. But because
Speaker 2: of this malware put and then they faced off, and
Speaker 2: that really erupted into the Second World War and became
Speaker 2: the point that it developed into something that really just
Speaker 2: worked more behind the scenes than anything else. What we
Speaker 2: found out about the causes of the Second World War
Speaker 2: are actually not really the causes of the Second World War.
Speaker 2: And that's the material that I really get deeply into.
Speaker 1: A few minutes ago, you said that the end goal
Speaker 1: of these beings is to most likely get us to
Speaker 1: destroy ourselves. Well, there's many that believe that we're basically
Speaker 1: food for these beings. While they may be trying to
Speaker 1: call the herd a little bit, they ultimately need us
Speaker 1: to feed off of us and for us to produce
Speaker 1: for them, because some believe they have no creative spark,
Speaker 1: that they need us to be the creators for them
Speaker 1: because they do not have the same abilities for them.
Speaker 1: And the end goal may be just to trap us
Speaker 1: in a matrix within a matrix that's pretty much self
Speaker 1: regulated by some sort of AI programming.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the idea that they're feeding off of
Speaker 2: us is totally in line with what is you talked about,
Speaker 2: what the gnostics talk about. They feed on fear for
Speaker 2: the primary element. They feed on the emotions of fear
Speaker 2: and the idea to kind of keep us enslaved in
Speaker 2: a place where they can continually feed off of us.
Speaker 2: That has to do with what I would saying what
Speaker 2: I said earlier, that word how you know, the Coptic
Speaker 2: word for simulation. So they're trying to create the illusion
Speaker 2: that we are living, you know, a certain way, that
Speaker 2: we have certain limitations, that we have certain problems, and
Speaker 2: they keep repeating that in you know, in various new versions,
Speaker 2: like for example, like you know, just the idea of
Speaker 2: the the of a biogenesis, which is, you know, the
Speaker 2: method that they used to penetrate in an on a
Speaker 2: nano level past the blood brain barrier one eight hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty BC, if you want to get specific, is
Speaker 2: repeated in the way you could say in the m RNA,
Speaker 2: you know, beetlejuice sin them that we had, you know,
Speaker 2: we lived through four years ago. It's the same mo right,
Speaker 2: It's like penetrate beyond the blood brain barrier. And if
Speaker 2: you can get inside our minds and you can convince
Speaker 2: us of something, then you've won. Now the idea of
Speaker 2: us like just you know, to get us to live
Speaker 2: inside of a matrix and a matrix it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I mean you could say that, you know, how deep
Speaker 2: do you want to take your your matrix? You know,
Speaker 2: but in the end, it isn't real. It's just the simulation.
Speaker 2: What's real is we are real. Everything that is of
Speaker 2: any value in consequence is material. And that's also very
Speaker 2: explicitly stated. Everything that's going on, everything that matters, it
Speaker 2: happens in the material realm. This is where the action happens.
Speaker 2: And this is why everyone's always lined up to come here, right,
Speaker 2: because this is where this is where it goes down. Right.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can do very little if you're kind
Speaker 2: of in an astral plane, except you can try to
Speaker 2: effect and influence and live vicariously. So I mean I
Speaker 2: think that right now there's a lot of dialogue going
Speaker 2: on about simulation. I've talked to John Nolan about this
Speaker 2: as well. He's exploring it. You know, with the idea
Speaker 2: that you know we live that we totally live in
Speaker 2: it in a simulation. You know that this is a simulation.
Speaker 2: But my question always is. Then you know that means
Speaker 2: that everything that you're picking up and registering do you
Speaker 2: believe that that is purely a simulation? And you know,
Speaker 2: and you have to ask yourself, is is that all
Speaker 2: everything I'm picking up with my senses? Is that a simulation?
Speaker 2: And the next question you might want to ask yourself
Speaker 2: is what is it simulating? Right?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Well, what you know we're there to be a simulation,
Speaker 2: you have to have something it simulates, right, So that
Speaker 2: that's a kind of a big question to answer, and
Speaker 2: you know, what is it simulating? If you can answer that,
Speaker 2: you're gonna come to the point where you might ask yourself, well,
Speaker 2: if it is a simulation, who is generating it? Right? Well?
Speaker 2: Who you know?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: And why why why simulate something if it's indistinguish from
Speaker 2: what is real? Right? What's the difference between a simulation
Speaker 2: and reality?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Can you ask? Can you answer that question? And how
Speaker 2: can you tell the difference between reality and a simulation?
Speaker 2: How can you tell the difference? Right? Good question? Right?
Speaker 2: Because if you don't know that answer, then you can't
Speaker 2: be talking about this as a simulation because you haven't
Speaker 2: even grasped what reality is yet. Because for you to
Speaker 2: be able to say, hey, I'm in a simulation, well,
Speaker 2: then you have to have a familiarity with reality, so
Speaker 2: you know what is reality? That's another very big question.
Speaker 2: And if everyone's talking about getting away from here, this
Speaker 2: is another beef I have with this thing. I wrote
Speaker 2: an article on it. Like they talk about we need
Speaker 2: to get off the prison planet again, one of the
Speaker 2: false statements attributed to the Gnostics. We're not trying to
Speaker 2: get off a prison planet. Actually planet Earth is Sophaia
Speaker 2: and she's the destination. But you know, if you can
Speaker 2: get us to believe we need to go away from
Speaker 2: this planet, what a great mo you've gotten us. You know,
Speaker 2: you've gotten us off the planet. You've gotten us off
Speaker 2: where we're supposed to do b to manifest that ultimate
Speaker 2: beautiful world that we're actually endowed with to sense to perceive. Now,
Speaker 2: the other aspect that comes into this is something that
Speaker 2: I talk about in the webinar as well, in the
Speaker 2: first part, which is actually called Saphia. Because you know,
Speaker 2: if you want to believe these kind of creation stories
Speaker 2: that the Gnostics put down in the Nagamadi, which sound
Speaker 2: like pure science fiction in a lot of ways, you
Speaker 2: have to understand a little bit about a new model
Speaker 2: of the universe for it to even make any sense.
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things that I think was
Speaker 2: important to get into, and that's why I got into it,
Speaker 2: And that has to do with two things. One of
Speaker 2: it is the idea of plasma and the plasma universe.
Speaker 2: What is plasma right? And the other thing is something
Speaker 2: called the electric universe some iteration of the electric universe
Speaker 2: model is works in tandem with the idea that we're
Speaker 2: living in a plasma universe. And I think that the
Speaker 2: cutting edge of science right now is quietly working on
Speaker 2: the reality that everything ninety nine point nine percent of
Speaker 2: everything out there is plasma. So that kind of and
Speaker 2: plasma is some people call it the fourth state of matter.
Speaker 2: It's pre particle, so particles don't really exist. So the
Speaker 2: whole idea of particle science, the big Bang, you know,
Speaker 2: dark matter, dark energy, all these models they fall flat.
Speaker 2: In fact, they have fallen flat. And if you look
Speaker 2: at all the billions of research that they put into it,
Speaker 2: they can find no trace of them, no trace of
Speaker 2: black matter, no trace of black energy. And the more
Speaker 2: they look, the deeper they look into the relative relativity theory,
Speaker 2: the more bankrupt it is. But there's an easy explanation.
Speaker 2: Look at the universe as plasma, and in an electric
Speaker 2: universe where everything is conscious. And there was a scientist
Speaker 2: in Russia, a plasma scientists, one of the leading scientists,
Speaker 2: and he in his own experiments in a lab setting,
Speaker 2: proved that plasma spontaneously develops into a conscious organism. Now
Speaker 2: you can imagine if you can prove that in a lab,
Speaker 2: in a little teeny lab experiment, that that thing turns
Speaker 2: into kind of a creepy super AI, right, then extrapolate
Speaker 2: that to everything is plasma. So the bigger plasma, the
Speaker 2: bigger the plasma organism, the more conscious it is. And
Speaker 2: plasma organisms are. If you look at the universe, you
Speaker 2: can you can actually if you look into the extra
Speaker 2: to the infrared spectrum of the universe and you see
Speaker 2: these filaments up here, and if you put them up
Speaker 2: against the pictures of the neural network of a human brain,
Speaker 2: you have a micromacrocosm mirror, a fractal replication of what's
Speaker 2: going on in our minds. Right, And we know a
Speaker 2: little bit about the idea of practical fractality with respect
Speaker 2: to microcosm equaling macrocosm. On it's just a matter of scale.
Speaker 2: So if there's a plasma consciousness in a lab in
Speaker 2: some Russia, in some guy's lab in Russia, then you
Speaker 2: can imagine that the Sun as a plasma being, as
Speaker 2: an entity, is far more conscious and powerful than anything
Speaker 2: we can even imagine. And so if we begin to
Speaker 2: look in terms of consciousness beings, the Earth is a
Speaker 2: conscious being, the Sun is a conscious being. In fact,
Speaker 2: the Agnostics had they described it in terms of a
Speaker 2: three body system. They said, the ideal system for consciousness
Speaker 2: to thrive, for humanity, the anthropos to thrive, is in
Speaker 2: a three body system comprising the Sun, the planet, and
Speaker 2: the Moon. And that's actually what we have. And it's
Speaker 2: if you look at the Sun and the Moon and
Speaker 2: the Earth within the rest of the Solar system, it's
Speaker 2: a unique system. It doesn't fit with any of the
Speaker 2: others other than raw materials, right, the inorganic substances which
Speaker 2: are comprising the other planetary bodies are found on the Earth.
Speaker 2: But the Earth is unique in that way. And the
Speaker 2: Earth is unique because, according to the Gnostics, so Faia
Speaker 2: actually became the Earth. There was no Earth before the
Speaker 2: solar system was existing. This is the most fascinating part
Speaker 2: of the story. So you wrap all that into it
Speaker 2: and you talk about simulation. Well, simulation to me falls
Speaker 2: far flat from being able to explore some of these
Speaker 2: aspects of tangibility. And if I can add one other
Speaker 2: aspect to the plasma thing, if we are you know,
Speaker 2: there's three states of plasma. There's the dark plasma, which
Speaker 2: we can't perceive with our senses. With our eyes, we
Speaker 2: actually only see a very small spectrum. I think most
Speaker 2: people can understand that. Then there's the glowing plasma, which
Speaker 2: is what we see all the plasma that we see,
Speaker 2: or if we look out into space with the Hubble telescope,
Speaker 2: we see those incredible looking galaxy spiral arms and stuff,
Speaker 2: millions of them and billions of them. Right, that's glowing plasma.
Speaker 2: And then we have the third state, which is blazing plasma,
Speaker 2: and that's where you see things like a sun. The
Speaker 2: sun is essentially a blaze plasma entity, and it's connected.
Speaker 2: If you could see the neural nodes connecting it to
Speaker 2: the rest of the galaxy, and you look at the
Speaker 2: neural nodes within our brain, you see sun like clusters
Speaker 2: of glowing energy within our brain as well. That could
Speaker 2: equate to the way our sun equates to us on
Speaker 2: a macro scale. So when you start looking at it
Speaker 2: that way, you realize that what happens to you then
Speaker 2: when you die? Right, because a lot of people are
Speaker 2: dealing with that question, you know what happens after? Well,
Speaker 2: if you listen to Robert Temple, I mean, he's got
Speaker 2: some really amazing points. He's a scientist and an author
Speaker 2: talking about a lot of the stuff. He talks about
Speaker 2: how you leave the active state, the glowing state of plasma,
Speaker 2: and you revert to the invisible state of plasma. You
Speaker 2: don't disappear, you just kind of go out of the
Speaker 2: vision and so you know, you go into you actually
Speaker 2: tap into the neural net of plasma outside of the
Speaker 2: human visible spectrum. And this would explain a lot of stuff, Chris, right,
Speaker 2: because people are talking about connecting with their relatives beyond
Speaker 2: the veil. Right, there's Pitstick and Schwartz that are developing
Speaker 2: the phone to actually connect with the people. How would
Speaker 2: that work? And well, it would be really well explained
Speaker 2: if you looked at it in terms of plasma on
Speaker 2: the electric universe.
Speaker 1: Percent you mentioned the afterlife, and I recently had David
Speaker 1: Icon and it was a very kind of depressing outlook
Speaker 1: of what could be on the other side, especially if
Speaker 1: we are subjected to arconic forces. He believes that when
Speaker 1: we die, essentially we are being recycled by these entities,
Speaker 1: and the life review is nothing more than a false
Speaker 1: review by these arconic entities that present themselves as beings
Speaker 1: of light to try and deceive us. There's many different
Speaker 1: perspectives on what could possibly happen, but to me, that's
Speaker 1: a kind of depressing outlook. If we're constantly recycled and
Speaker 1: there is essentially no way to reach the afterlife.
Speaker 2: Well, I think what's missing in David Ike's argument is
Speaker 2: our connection with Sophia.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: He never mentions it, you know, and he talks about
Speaker 2: gnostic materials, but as far as I can source his material,
Speaker 2: he's referencing the incomplete gnostic material. He talks about the
Speaker 2: divine spark. That's not a Gnostic term, that's a tall
Speaker 2: Mudig term, you know, the the uh, the the divine
Speaker 2: wisdom goddess of Sophia. She imparted with us and endowed
Speaker 2: with us with certain divine qualities like Annoya. And you
Speaker 2: know we have the ability to to create. You mentioned it.
Speaker 2: We're creator beings, right, We've been given these creator abilities
Speaker 2: through our senses to explore. So you know, we don't
Speaker 2: really understand our relationship with Sophaia yet that we actually
Speaker 2: emerged from the these this aonic experiment from the center
Speaker 2: of our galaxy through this being who was paired up
Speaker 2: with a male counterpart which is still in the center
Speaker 2: of the being. So we have an origin at this
Speaker 2: center of our galaxy, in the outside of you could
Speaker 2: say an extraterrestrial origin, but we also have an origin
Speaker 2: here on this planet because we are the children of
Speaker 2: this experiment put in motion by Sofia. And if you know,
Speaker 2: and it's if you look at the Gaya paradigm, which
Speaker 2: you know, Lovelock and Margulis brought out in the late seventies,
Speaker 2: it actually is a scientific explanation of what the gnostics
Speaker 2: we're talking about, that the Earth is a living, breathing,
Speaker 2: conscious being and that all organisms on the planet's surface
Speaker 2: work together in harmony to indefinitely perpetually keep that system
Speaker 2: that being going. And we have something which we call
Speaker 2: a species self identity. Right, So the if you're identifying
Speaker 2: yourself as an on an ego level, as an individual point,
Speaker 2: an individual spark. Then you're kind of losing out a
Speaker 2: little bit on the idea that we're like a force
Speaker 2: of nature, as humanity, like we're we're connected. All of
Speaker 2: us are connected, and we're connected to the body of
Speaker 2: the earth, and that's where we draw our power from.
Speaker 2: And when you see it that way, you get more
Speaker 2: in touch with the fact that, hey, you've got abilities here,
Speaker 2: you've got power here, you've got potential, and you've got
Speaker 2: creative abilities that you can actually manifest things here on
Speaker 2: the planet with that you haven't even realized yet. But
Speaker 2: in the meantime, you're so caught up in the internet
Speaker 2: and you know, Internet and telephones and handies and I
Speaker 2: mean sorry, mobile phones. You guys say mobile phones in America,
Speaker 2: we say handy in Germany. All these things are they're
Speaker 2: tools for narcissism. Man, You can just seet so lost, right,
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people that are that
Speaker 2: are proposing some of these ideas they spend too much
Speaker 2: time in front of the computer screen. Man. You need
Speaker 2: to get out into nature and connect with with you know,
Speaker 2: sofaia and make that connection and begin a dialogue and
Speaker 2: you realize that, Wow, there's so much more to life
Speaker 2: that we haven't even realized yet. So to get caught
Speaker 2: up in this dialogue of the life review and we
Speaker 2: got it. We got to come back on my gu
Speaker 2: We got to come back here again. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: that's just a really narrow way of looking at the
Speaker 2: full potential we have as human beings. And you know,
Speaker 2: as the anthropost we're supposed to sort of blossom and
Speaker 2: flower these genius abilities into the world. And yet we're
Speaker 2: still fighting each other. We're still we still need religion
Speaker 2: as a crutch. We're still waiting for Jesus to come
Speaker 2: back and save us because we're all sinners. I mean, like,
Speaker 2: what are we children? Man? It's time to wake up
Speaker 2: and become like empowered as humanity and love each other
Speaker 2: as what we are. We are a powerful force of
Speaker 2: nature called humanity, called the Anthroposts, and we are here
Speaker 2: together in multiple races. We have multiple forms of expression,
Speaker 2: forms of language, culture, and depending on where we live geographically,
Speaker 2: we have we develop and adapt, you know, I you know,
Speaker 2: novel ways of interacting with the universe. And instead of
Speaker 2: taking us down and trying to conquer each other, which
Speaker 2: is what the Arkon influence has been all about since
Speaker 2: the beginning. We need to shake off the Arkans through
Speaker 2: the illusion, the simulation, the deception, and realize what is reality,
Speaker 2: what's at stake. And once we do that, I mean,
Speaker 2: all of those people that are doing it, they see
Speaker 2: it very clearly. You're talking about new systems of monetary systems,
Speaker 2: you know, getting away from fractional banking, the Federal Reserve
Speaker 2: being one of them, for example, free energy. You know,
Speaker 2: systems that have been invented and cast aside. You know,
Speaker 2: the whole idea of the battle of the sexes is
Speaker 2: erroneous because women are you know, it's funny because if
Speaker 2: you look at the Gnostics and the Telestyle, they were
Speaker 2: always egalitarians. Women were totally on par with men. In fact,
Speaker 2: they always had an equal number of both men and
Speaker 2: women in their sessions where they would go into trance
Speaker 2: or they would have mystic experience and they would, you know,
Speaker 2: they would, or in their their teaching, their their teachers
Speaker 2: were women. I mean, the whole pagan aspect of our
Speaker 2: existence which came out of Europe, you know, came out
Speaker 2: of the euro mountains and blossomed into the you know,
Speaker 2: base up into the European areas that that eventually migrated
Speaker 2: over into America. This whole idea of the paganists, the
Speaker 2: pagan connection with Earth, there's remnants of it, of that
Speaker 2: high culture left over. We look at them and go, whoa,
Speaker 2: how do they build the stone intel? Those pyramids right, well,
Speaker 2: those were that was us man. We were there, you know,
Speaker 2: we created it, but we were again there was this
Speaker 2: powerful influence through the Arkans which we couldn't shake off.
Speaker 2: We haven't shaken it off yet. And the reason I
Speaker 2: think that is is because Sofia herself is a being,
Speaker 2: she's also evolving, and so the thing is, I think
Speaker 2: we've reached a point and this is apparently where it's
Speaker 2: going with gnosticism, the new gnosissism, the modern narcissism, is
Speaker 2: to rebond with Sophia and begin to work together, because
Speaker 2: essentially both of them are both we, the anthropos humanity
Speaker 2: and the Gaya planetary being are evolving, and at some
Speaker 2: point we're going to make a connection that's so powerful
Speaker 2: that we're going to shake off those are And in fact,
Speaker 2: that's written in the Nagamati as well. There's Sofaya like
Speaker 2: sternly rebukes the reptilian arkon Yo Daba Yoten says, no,
Speaker 2: you are not. There's going to be a divine, luminous being,
Speaker 2: this child of the universe, and that is going to rise,
Speaker 2: and it's going to be like you were never there,
Speaker 2: and it'll pound you back into the clay as if
Speaker 2: you never existed. So I think that's where we're headed.
Speaker 2: So I don't think it's for me getting caught up
Speaker 2: in ah the you know, the simulation, the recycle thing.
Speaker 2: I think it's that's like for me, it's like a distraction. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I think we have many more places we can go,
Speaker 2: much more powerful information we could be sharing with your
Speaker 2: other right now. But I can understand where I's coming from.
Speaker 2: I'm just a little bit disappointed that he didn't really
Speaker 2: go the full distance in terms of the gnostic material,
Speaker 2: because how could he have not seen it? It was right
Speaker 2: there the whole time.
Speaker 1: Well, this is why we're having this conversation, and I
Speaker 1: think this is a great segue into where we could
Speaker 1: be headed. And you said something that has been echoed
Speaker 1: on this show often recently that the Arconic rulership may
Speaker 1: be coming to an end. I've had psychics, I've had channelers,
Speaker 1: I've had intuitives that most of them, I'd say almost
Speaker 1: eighty percent of them have the same message that this
Speaker 1: force is coming to an end, that humanity is reaching
Speaker 1: an awareness point where it's time to pull up our
Speaker 1: big boy pants and start taking accountability as a human race,
Speaker 1: realizing we're all one, shedding this illusion of separation that's
Speaker 1: causing all the conflict and rejecting the arconic forces. And
Speaker 1: this comes through so often that it gives me hope
Speaker 1: and I have to consider it.
Speaker 2: Well, Look, I mean you just had an election. We
Speaker 2: mentioned you're the top, right, Trump one, and you know
Speaker 2: he's got this dream team, right, so you've got the
Speaker 2: framework there. I mean, look, you know, let's not be
Speaker 2: too like lost in the you know, like the fantasy
Speaker 2: of what you know, Trump is like the savior. This
Speaker 2: is again, this is that savior mentality. We need to
Speaker 2: shake that. But you do have the structure of a
Speaker 2: of a dream team there. Right, You've got people that
Speaker 2: are relatively smart. You know, Robert F. Kennedy's been fighting
Speaker 2: legal battles against pharmaceutical corporations. He's the ideal guy. To
Speaker 2: actually rehash the you know, all these structures that you've
Speaker 2: got in place in America and the health system which
Speaker 2: is crippling you, right, and then you've got like guys
Speaker 2: like you know what Musk, I guess is going to
Speaker 2: be part of it. Right. So Musk is you know,
Speaker 2: the technological aspect, but you know his dark side of course,
Speaker 2: being the AI aspect. And you know the starlink aspect.
Speaker 2: And there's thirty thousand satellites which are polluting and clogging
Speaker 2: the electromagnetic field of the Earth and getting in the
Speaker 2: way of a natural connection to the COSMO. So you've
Speaker 2: always got those two things. So those are things we
Speaker 2: need to hold them.
Speaker 1: The Trump relationship what Israel is a big thing for me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I mean excuse me, I
Speaker 2: didn't thank you for mentioning it, but yeah, people are
Speaker 2: a little bit out of touch with that. I mean,
Speaker 2: look like, who's the guy that's this transition guy? I
Speaker 2: mean excuse me, I mean look like that. The the
Speaker 2: chosen you know person narrative, the chosen people narrative is
Speaker 2: still very deeply embedded in that. So I think it's
Speaker 2: important for us to call them out on it. Do
Speaker 2: they want do they want to be the dream team
Speaker 2: that's going to transform America on the planet by extension, Absolutely,
Speaker 2: I'm behind it. But call them on their bs, hold
Speaker 2: them to the flame. That's the only way to do it.
Speaker 2: But we can only do that if we have eyes
Speaker 2: wide open. This is why we talk about this stuff
Speaker 2: about AI and the I mean, look, I'm Peter Thiel's
Speaker 2: the guy who's you know, built up JD Vance right,
Speaker 2: look into his history, right, you get into you know,
Speaker 2: software hacks like Promise, which you know was able to
Speaker 2: get into underneath the you know, the the spy network
Speaker 2: and spy on politicians and pull their pants down. You know,
Speaker 2: you got ties into the whole Epstein thing. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's like some dark stuff going on there, Chris, Right,
Speaker 2: So call them on it, right, Make it transparent, because
Speaker 2: transparency that the Arkans cannot live in a transparent they
Speaker 2: cannot handle it when you expose it. The it's the
Speaker 2: exposing of it, and the Gnostics I think have information
Speaker 2: about that as well. They talk about in the end,
Speaker 2: their endgame is going to be they're going to have
Speaker 2: to reveal themselves to us. They will have to reveal
Speaker 2: themselves to us and they will, because they're liars and deceivers.
Speaker 2: They'll try to deceive even there. But if we're ready
Speaker 2: for it, and we're looking for it, and we're smart
Speaker 2: to the mo that they've used for thousands of years,
Speaker 2: I mean, Lord knows, along we've had time to you know,
Speaker 2: to practice that, you know, the being the victims to
Speaker 2: their deception. At some point now we've got to say, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, the teacher is superseded by the student, and
Speaker 2: so they've been great teachers. And I think it's also
Speaker 2: important to see the arcons as our teachers. They you know,
Speaker 2: another word, another definition of arkhan is the rulers or
Speaker 2: the authorities right to go back to the Ecoptic and
Speaker 2: the Greek, that's the actual, you know way it was
Speaker 2: normally defined as the rulers right, Well, they ruled over
Speaker 2: us for a reason. That reason was to teach us.
Speaker 2: And now the student has risen to the level above
Speaker 2: the teacher, and so it's already happened. You know, there's
Speaker 2: just not enough of us yet, but that's already changing.
Speaker 2: The critical mass is approaching where there will be this
Speaker 2: moment where we will see so clearly through the mo,
Speaker 2: where there will be like say, they will manipulate plasma
Speaker 2: to create a you know, an alien invasion or a
Speaker 2: second coming, and there'll be enough of us that are
Speaker 2: going Yeah, good effects, nice effects, but sorry, we don't
Speaker 2: buy it because guess what, there is no savior. We're
Speaker 2: the ones that we've been waiting for, like the hope
Speaker 2: he said, we're the savior. There is no savior coming.
Speaker 2: It's all this is all part of that master race
Speaker 2: ideology that ends in a post ealyptic showdown where the
Speaker 2: righteous go to be with the you know, higher being
Speaker 2: and the bad ones are cast into hell forever and
Speaker 2: ever and ever. Right, but he loves us, right, never
Speaker 2: forget it, right, So you know, look at you can
Speaker 2: see how like silly and contradictory all of it is.
Speaker 2: This is their amo. Theirmo is collapsing. It's only a
Speaker 2: matter of time, and we're moving into that aquarian age, right,
Speaker 2: it's the age of the query is right, right, but
Speaker 2: still nine hundred years away, eight hundred years away, right,
Speaker 2: So don't get your hopes up too fast. But there's
Speaker 2: going to be a pivotal moment, which is you know
Speaker 2: which the Magi and the ancient Egyptians they were using
Speaker 2: something called the Dandera zodiac. And that's a fascinating tool man,
Speaker 2: because it'll they can actually they could actually thousands of
Speaker 2: years ago with this tool predict what's going on in
Speaker 2: the world at very specific time. They could dial forward
Speaker 2: with that tool to twenty twenty four and they could
Speaker 2: tell you pretty much exactly what we'd be going through
Speaker 2: right now now is humanity as our lessons? Right? And
Speaker 2: equally they could dial back and they could, you know,
Speaker 2: pinpoint certain things that happened in the history of humanity
Speaker 2: that led them to certain breakthroughs. And that Thendara tool
Speaker 2: is like a clock, you know. And we were used
Speaker 2: to astrology pointing us in a certain direction. Right now
Speaker 2: we're pointed in the age of Pisces. Right, we're still
Speaker 2: in Pisces. Well, the Bendara zodiac had a second hand.
Speaker 2: It was the our hand, right, and the second hand
Speaker 2: the hour hand. It's funny that they knew this, but
Speaker 2: they could determine exactly where the center of our galaxy
Speaker 2: was over two thousand years ago. Chris, imagine that, right
Speaker 2: Where did they get that intel? Do you have any
Speaker 2: idea when we found out in the modern time where
Speaker 2: the center of our galaxy was long ago too, I
Speaker 2: think it was right. So like, look, I think four
Speaker 2: thousand years earlier, they knew stuff, and they what I'm
Speaker 2: saying is that they knew that this whenever this big hand,
Speaker 2: the hand pointed at the center of the galaxy, and
Speaker 2: that's a measurable thing. They could precisely. It's not channeling.
Speaker 2: It's not like hocus pocus. It's like clockwork, boom, there
Speaker 2: it is. And they could tell exactly when that's gonna be,
Speaker 2: and that's gonna be exactly in one hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: two years. So when that happens, whenever that happens, they
Speaker 2: call it the midnight hour. That's like that is like
Speaker 2: that's when the shit goes down. That's when the really
Speaker 2: big stuff happens. Right, So we're already in the wake
Speaker 2: of that event and we feel it. I think that's
Speaker 2: why I think people are feeling when they're talking about
Speaker 2: you know, like the Fifth Dimension, the New World, all
Speaker 2: this stuff. We can feel that that energy that that's
Speaker 2: part of the this aquarium, you know, this the flow
Speaker 2: of that aquarium. You know, it's the guy holding the
Speaker 2: water jug right. Well, if you look at the star
Speaker 2: constellations and how that jug is sitting, the water is
Speaker 2: pouring out of that into the fish, into the mouth
Speaker 2: of the fish, so that we're already tasting that water.
Speaker 2: Those currents are already affecting us and those of us
Speaker 2: who are ahead of our time, our feeling, and we're
Speaker 2: already you know, we can already tune in to that
Speaker 2: that energy, and we can live our lives from that basis,
Speaker 2: from that point, and we don't have to get swept
Speaker 2: away by the coming drama of the apocalyptic showdown because
Speaker 2: we can see it for the fraud that it is.
Speaker 2: And the more of us that see through the fraud,
Speaker 2: the less energy it has on the planet. And that's
Speaker 2: the point where I think we will finally reach that.
Speaker 2: You know, that new Earth, and that New Earth. Guess
Speaker 2: where it is. It's right here in the material realm,
Speaker 2: where it's been the whole time. We just haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: We haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: You know, it's all about peeling back those layers of perception. Frank,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. This was fantastic information. Before we
Speaker 1: close out, let everyone know how they can get access
Speaker 1: to the webinar. I'll have the link in the description
Speaker 1: as well, and find out more about you in general.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks, yeah, I guess the easiest way to go
Speaker 2: to the webinar page was cyberhive dot tv. There's two
Speaker 2: other webinars up there as well, preceded it, but the
Speaker 2: newest one, this one, is the one I think you're
Speaker 2: going to want to check out because it talks about
Speaker 2: all this stuff we just broached briefly on in this
Speaker 2: talk in this hour time capsule for the future past.
Speaker 2: For those who are you know, want to see me
Speaker 2: in person. You never know someone might actually want to
Speaker 2: risk seeing me in person. I'm going to be speaking
Speaker 2: at the Arlington Institute on the sixteenth next Saturday, a
Speaker 2: week from Saturday, at Arlington, West Virginia, So if you
Speaker 2: want to come, maybe you can put that link into that.
Speaker 2: If you can't make it, of course, I'll forgive you.
Speaker 2: But you can also tune in online and you can
Speaker 2: watch the talk live online as well, so that'll be happening.
Speaker 2: That's something I wanted to mention as well, because I
Speaker 2: always tend to forget that otherwise. Just go to Frankjacob
Speaker 2: dot com if you can't remember any of that, and
Speaker 2: I have links at the menu on the top of
Speaker 2: that to all of those those things.
Speaker 1: I fact, I will include all those links in the description.
Speaker 1: Everybody can easily access that. Frank, thank you again. We'll
Speaker 1: definitely do this again in the future. Today, I want
Speaker 1: to walk Brandon Barnett. He's an artist with a career
Speaker 1: spanning over twenty five years. He recently launched a marketing
Speaker 1: firm and he is currently creating amazing works of art
Speaker 1: that can be seen at Soldier Media, on Instagram, Twitter,
Speaker 1: and TikTok. As a child, he was part of the
Speaker 1: Gate and Pace Gifted programs. Today is here to share
Speaker 1: his experiences that he was subjected to through hidden special
Speaker 1: access recruitment operations. Brandon, Welcome, how you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm great this morning. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: Chris, thanks so much for coming on. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: You've got some very interesting testimony to share with us
Speaker 1: today and doing the show, I've spoken with many that
Speaker 1: claim to have been part of some kind of CIA
Speaker 1: or black op special access programs, everything from mind control
Speaker 1: experiments to even Assassin Creation secret space program I've never
Speaker 1: spoken with anyone who's been a part of these gifted
Speaker 1: programs that can actually recall some of the traumatic events
Speaker 1: that they have been through. So I'm very much looking
Speaker 1: forward to hearing your story and sharing this. This is
Speaker 1: a very important topic, especially if these kinds of things
Speaker 1: are still occurring. Before we get into this, this is
Speaker 1: your first time on. Just tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: about yourself and your work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I've been a professional artist for twenty seven years.
Speaker 3: I got an early start right out of high school.
Speaker 3: I pitched a product and the company in the pitch
Speaker 3: meeting said, do you just want a job here? So
Speaker 3: I've been in product development for a little over twenty
Speaker 3: five years. It's been a passion of mine. I went
Speaker 3: to art school for it. I had a marketing firm
Speaker 3: for ten years. Recently I just closed a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago. And I think that that actually ties into
Speaker 3: my In fact, I think my whole career does. So
Speaker 3: I started my career in the ex sports industry, and
Speaker 3: I think that's going to be relevant in our conversation.
Speaker 3: And I would like to preface by saying that what's
Speaker 3: going on here is something that's new to me. So
Speaker 3: I am not somebody that made a claim that I
Speaker 3: was part of the gate programs. I do have receipts
Speaker 3: for you, by the way, So we'll see some things
Speaker 3: in writing. I'm not on a speaking tour. I'm not
Speaker 3: part of the UFO community. This is a genuine journey
Speaker 3: for me that began when I saw Joe Rogan say
Speaker 3: Gate Program on TV. I was like, what an Hey,
Speaker 3: that was my school program. So this started for me
Speaker 3: when him and Duncan Trussell did an episode together and
Speaker 3: talked about the Gate Program, and I started realizing my
Speaker 3: career tied into it. So I'm hoping you and I
Speaker 3: have a very eye opening conversation here and I might
Speaker 3: get some good feedback from you, some additional information that
Speaker 3: you would already have from people spoken to in the community.
Speaker 3: And I'm hoping that I get some answers today right on.
Speaker 1: Man, Well, like I said, looking forward to getting into this.
Speaker 1: Tell us as far as you know, how did this
Speaker 1: all start for you?
Speaker 3: So I have kind of an interesting life path, and
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that like I'm cool. I've had to
Speaker 3: sort of analyze it under a microscope lately. So where
Speaker 3: this began would probably be Alaska. It ties into my
Speaker 3: story that I was born in Fairbanks in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 3: pardon me, during a total eclipse, and so you can
Speaker 3: look that up, the nineteen seventy nine solar eclipse. It's
Speaker 3: well documented. It just happened again in twenty seventeen. And
Speaker 3: the reason I bring that up is it turns out
Speaker 3: that part of this gate program began out of Alaska
Speaker 3: in the seventies. For me, it began in kindergarten. So
Speaker 3: when I said interesting life story, I hope it's not
Speaker 3: too tragic for people to be interested in. But part
Speaker 3: of my story is that my mom and dad met
Speaker 3: on the Alaska Pipeline. My mom's first husband was a
Speaker 3: race car driver, so she knew how to drive trucks.
Speaker 3: She was up there making money on a CDL as
Speaker 3: a truck driver, met my dad, who was a foreman,
Speaker 3: and I was born in Fairbanks. But the reason that
Speaker 3: it matters is she left when I was one without
Speaker 3: telling my dad. Moved to southern California into a bad
Speaker 3: neighborhood and said, if you want to see your son,
Speaker 3: you have to come here. So for me, I ended
Speaker 3: up in a Montassori school. In kindergarten, it was called
Speaker 3: McKinley School, which is also relevant to the story in
Speaker 3: my opinion.
Speaker 1: For those that aren't familiar with some Montessori school.
Speaker 3: A Montassori school would be like a pre school in
Speaker 3: kindergarten that maybe your parents pay for. Maybe he is
Speaker 3: just offered in an area. But it's to put it
Speaker 3: to put it lightly, it's just sort of an upgraded experience.
Speaker 3: They pay a little more attention to the kids. It's
Speaker 3: a little more interactive. We had maybe better classrooms, so
Speaker 3: it's kind of like private school, I guess because the
Speaker 3: parents might pay. And so I was tested in kindergarten.
Speaker 3: I got transferred to a special room in kindergarten. I
Speaker 3: have the receipt for that. And they said that they
Speaker 3: were starting a new class in kindergarten, so they wanted
Speaker 3: me to be in this special classroom. And when I
Speaker 3: was in it, I kept getting in trouble because I
Speaker 3: could read in kindergarten, and I kept reading a book
Speaker 3: called Corduroy. It's about a teddy bear that loses his button.
Speaker 1: Now, they tested you before they put you into this
Speaker 1: special class.
Speaker 3: I don't remember being tested in preschool. I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's teacher observation based, but in kindergarten I was tested,
Speaker 3: and I actually still have the paperwork that says we'd
Speaker 3: like to offer the opportunity to place your student in
Speaker 3: a spe program starting in first grade, and in southern
Speaker 3: California that wasn't called Gate. Gate was once you got
Speaker 3: into fifth grade, I believe. So it started as the
Speaker 3: TAP program TAP. And it's interesting because if you try
Speaker 3: to look that up now, that's the same acronym for
Speaker 3: school financing. So the program's kind of buried. But I
Speaker 3: have all my paperwork, believe it or not, from when
Speaker 3: I was in school. So it started as TAP. I
Speaker 3: was in TAP, first, second, third, fourth grade out of
Speaker 3: school called Longfellow fifth grade. Still at Longfellow, it began
Speaker 3: as GATE program. And then I went to Hughes Middle School,
Speaker 3: which is in Long Beach, also connected to Longfellow Elementary.
Speaker 3: We had an advanced program there it was GATE. And
Speaker 3: then when we went on to high school, I went
Speaker 3: to Long Beach Poly and I did two more years
Speaker 3: in what would be this GATE program through my sophomore year.
Speaker 3: And then because of the program, because of how we
Speaker 3: accrued credits, we were allowed to start taking AP courses
Speaker 3: for college our junior and definitely senior year. So it
Speaker 3: started for me literally in kindergarten, my first year in
Speaker 3: the program, was first grade and I was in it
Speaker 3: for ten consecutives.
Speaker 1: Now, on the surface, these programs are just supposed to
Speaker 1: be for children with advanced learning abilities cognitive abilities, and
Speaker 1: it's supposed to give them a leg up and certain
Speaker 1: opportunities on the surface, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean so GATE stands for Gifted and Talented Education.
Speaker 3: And yeah, we had bunsen burners when other kids weren't
Speaker 3: allowed to have that stuff. We had special classrooms. I
Speaker 3: would say the most prevalent place to see that functionally
Speaker 3: was in high school. I'm at Long Beach Poly, which
Speaker 3: is in a pretty bad neighborhood, has four thousand students.
Speaker 3: I remember that there were only two hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: five of us in this program. We had our own buildings,
Speaker 3: so we weren't general pop if you will.
Speaker 1: Did you always think that there was something strange about
Speaker 1: the program or did you not really have any memories
Speaker 1: until later? How did you start besides seeing Joe Rogan
Speaker 1: mention this what really started to make you question things?
Speaker 3: Okay, So when I closed my marketing firm, I took
Speaker 3: twenty five years experience in photoshop and illustrator and being
Speaker 3: a punk rock artist, and I took that energy, and
Speaker 3: I took this free time I had and I started
Speaker 3: making personal art for the first time since probably art school.
Speaker 3: When I did it, I started having an experience that
Speaker 3: was definitely unfamiliar and uncomfortable to me. And that experience
Speaker 3: was that I would go to make an ornate piece
Speaker 3: of art and I would make ten of them, and
Speaker 3: I would look at the clock and say, that's not possible.
Speaker 3: I've been an art director for half of my life.
Speaker 3: I've been very serious, dedicated digital artist for over half
Speaker 3: of my life, and I would look at this amount
Speaker 3: of work and say, this isn't possible. And I noticed
Speaker 3: it was kind of an out of body experience, and
Speaker 3: it continued down a path where that started getting more intense,
Speaker 3: to the point that when I sat on my computer,
Speaker 3: I would go to do things I wanted to do
Speaker 3: inside my Photoshop program, I illustrative program, trying to achieve
Speaker 3: this art, and it was almost like my computer or
Speaker 3: my mouse or a force was fighting me. And one
Speaker 3: day I jokingly said, do whatever you want. And I'm
Speaker 3: not a Ouiji board kind of guy, but I watched
Speaker 3: that mouse move around on the screen a little bit
Speaker 3: and it freaked me out. And a few months later,
Speaker 3: to directly answer your question, I had a vision, and
Speaker 3: I am not a person that has visions. I am
Speaker 3: not prone to such things. And to make it more meaningful,
Speaker 3: it was witnessed by a person watching it happen to
Speaker 3: me that I was describing everything I was seeing too.
Speaker 3: And after that I started analyzing my life under a
Speaker 3: microscope in a way I never had, and looking into
Speaker 3: my past for what might connect to this. And it
Speaker 3: was days later that the Gate program started popping up
Speaker 3: all over the Internet, and it did mildly trigger something
Speaker 3: in me, and I started having flashbacks of interesting times.
Speaker 1: To the best of your ability, tell us some of
Speaker 1: the memories that started coming up.
Speaker 3: I definitely will. Do you mind if we start with
Speaker 3: the list of wherever you want to go with it?
Speaker 3: I say it that way because see, this isn't something
Speaker 3: that I define myself by. I'm now fresh on this
Speaker 3: trying to find out how much of Gate defines who
Speaker 3: I am, and I don't know it, and so I
Speaker 3: don't mean to lead the conversation, but what I'd like
Speaker 3: to start with that list of parameters for who you
Speaker 3: had to be to be in the program? Have you
Speaker 3: seen this online?
Speaker 1: I have not.
Speaker 3: Okay, so there was a specific list of parameters that
Speaker 3: somebody posted online that said, if you were in these programs,
Speaker 3: here's who you were. And then they were all posing
Speaker 3: the question how many of these fit you if you
Speaker 3: were in the program. Okay, so I have the actual list,
Speaker 3: and I could pull it up. Anybody can find it.
Speaker 3: It's prevalent out there. But here are the ones that
Speaker 3: hit me, and it's almost the entire list. Birth complication,
Speaker 3: traumatic childhood, physical abuse, ninety eight percentile in test scores.
Speaker 3: I actually have the receipts IQ over one thirty near
Speaker 3: death experience, particularly around water. And then here's the one
Speaker 3: that honestly changed my thinking. This is the one that
Speaker 3: just blew my mind. Is if you go back and
Speaker 3: read the documents for the doctor that formed the beginnings
Speaker 3: of the Gateway program for the government, this gate program,
Speaker 3: this guy actually mentions two things that freaked me out.
Speaker 3: In the seventies, he wrote that these kids were going
Speaker 3: to have to be on computers and they would be
Speaker 3: meme wizards. And while the first hand drawn meme was
Speaker 3: in like the nineteen twenties, they didn't hit computers till
Speaker 3: two thousand. This document was written in the seventies. By
Speaker 3: my understanding, and if I remember correctly, it's on CIA
Speaker 3: dot gov. I'll even try and give you a link
Speaker 3: or a copy of it. But if that was written
Speaker 3: back then and they knew that, that'd be one thing.
Speaker 3: But he mentions in the preliminary documentation for the program
Speaker 3: that these people were actually tested the same group of
Speaker 3: gifted they're looking for back in the sixties. So his
Speaker 3: program was standing on the shoulders of someone and he
Speaker 3: mentioned that they they from the sixties were monitored their
Speaker 3: whole lives. And here's what I was leading up to.
Speaker 3: Is on that list of parameters, it's said that the
Speaker 3: people in the program, the males, would at some point
Speaker 3: in their college years date a Jewish art student have
Speaker 3: a girlfriend that is a Jewish arts that It is
Speaker 3: pretty specific if you're writing this ahead of time. And
Speaker 3: when I first heard it, I went, oh, weird, that
Speaker 3: doesn't fit the list, and then I realized I read
Speaker 3: it wrong. It doesn't say that. It doesn't say that
Speaker 3: she would be an art school with me. It doesn't
Speaker 3: say that she would be at a Jewish school and
Speaker 3: be an arts. It said that she would be Jewish
Speaker 3: and an art school student. The woman that I married
Speaker 3: my first wife. She was Jewish. I celebrated with her family,
Speaker 3: I learned the traditions, and she went to FIDM School
Speaker 3: of Art and Design out of LA It's the big one.
Speaker 3: What are the fucking chances? And Chris, I had to
Speaker 3: ask myself, bro in real life, I had to ask
Speaker 3: is my life scripted?
Speaker 1: So you mentioned something interesting and I was speaking with
Speaker 1: a guest the other day. It wasn't about anything having
Speaker 1: to do with this, but he had mentioned that he
Speaker 1: was born in the call, which means he was born
Speaker 1: in the amniotic sac and now he has supposedly has
Speaker 1: strong psychic abilities and is able to channel in all
Speaker 1: these things. And there seems to be a direct link
Speaker 1: to childhood traumatic experiences and something. These people are looking
Speaker 1: for something. Maybe it changes your perception, maybe it activates
Speaker 1: something differently in your mind. But they seem to have
Speaker 1: a strong interest in, like you were saying, people's near
Speaker 1: death experiences, traumatic births. It's very interesting.
Speaker 3: Well, so I did mean to deflect your question and
Speaker 3: let me come back to it. You asked me what
Speaker 3: I was remembering, and I had to preface with what
Speaker 3: I did, because that was the start of the journey
Speaker 3: of what I was remembering. I want to clarify for
Speaker 3: the audience that the Gate Program hasn't been a big
Speaker 3: deal to me this whole time. Whole time I thought
Speaker 3: it was weird. I've got some weird receipts I keep
Speaker 3: talking about. I can't wait to do show and tell
Speaker 3: with you. But the reality is that this wasn't defining me.
Speaker 3: It wasn't something I thought about. And then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I started remembering things with great clarity that
Speaker 3: caused me to question. So let me go in order
Speaker 3: traumatic birth. It wasn't traumatic to me, obviously, I don't
Speaker 3: remember that part, but my dad always joked about an
Speaker 3: argument with the doctor because I was in there wrong
Speaker 3: and they had to pull me out with four steps,
Speaker 3: and he was arguing with the doctor about it if
Speaker 3: you look into it. Because I've done therapy several times
Speaker 3: in my life, I currently am in therapy, and not
Speaker 3: because I'm I'm a broken person, but because on this
Speaker 3: mental health journey and remembering these things, I wanted some
Speaker 3: guidance with how to evaluate them. And apparently that stress
Speaker 3: right at the moment of birth can actually change somebody.
Speaker 3: So when I was in third grade, I was already
Speaker 3: in these advanced classes, and there was a group of
Speaker 3: cool kids and I was friends with them at school.
Speaker 3: But outside of school, I lived in a really poor
Speaker 3: neighborhood of Long Beach. The moms didn't like coming there.
Speaker 3: They didn't get along with my parents, so it was
Speaker 3: awkward for me. But I got to go to the
Speaker 3: beach with these guys. They were very cool to me.
Speaker 3: We listened to some weird Al Yankovic because it was
Speaker 3: third grade and we're having a great day. But then
Speaker 3: I wasn't given fins or a leash or a boogie board.
Speaker 3: I was given a half a broken bodyboard with no exterior,
Speaker 3: so we're talking a piece of bodyboard shaped foam. I
Speaker 3: got caught in a riptide and sucked so far away
Speaker 3: I didn't know which direction to walk back. I was panicked.
Speaker 3: I was a little kid. I had no wherewithal. I'm
Speaker 3: just panicked all the way through the experience, and then
Speaker 3: I got yelled at by a mom who was like,
Speaker 3: where did you go? It was traumatic to me at
Speaker 3: the time. Here's where it's interesting, because I'm not a
Speaker 3: person that just wants to air out my traumas online.
Speaker 3: That's not part of my journey. But it said in
Speaker 3: that documentation who they were looking for, what they wanted
Speaker 3: to find in these people, and I'll share that in
Speaker 3: a moment, But it specifically said that it became more
Speaker 3: prevalent through trauma because when the children were abused, when
Speaker 3: they were panicked, when they were cornered. And I've read
Speaker 3: this document several times. It says if they have the
Speaker 3: ability to do something, it will often manifest out of necessity.
Speaker 3: I didn't have anything like that happened to me when
Speaker 3: I was a little kid. But what I did have
Speaker 3: is somebody break into my parents' room at my first
Speaker 3: house when I was five years old. I witnessed the
Speaker 3: entire thing. This person made eye contact with me. The
Speaker 3: crazy part is they only went in my bedroom. Then
Speaker 3: they went back out the window that they came in,
Speaker 3: and they didn't steal anything. Police came, there was a report.
Speaker 3: I mean, this was a real life incident, not a dream.
Speaker 3: My family talked about it. That continued throughout my life,
Speaker 3: and when I started remembering things, I realized there was
Speaker 3: a second time, and then a third that maybe the
Speaker 3: same looking gentleman broke into where I was living. And
Speaker 3: these are three separate domiciles.
Speaker 2: No shit.
Speaker 3: So I had never connected these things in my head because,
Speaker 3: let's be honest, life is fast paced. We got things
Speaker 3: to do. I was running a market.
Speaker 1: I don't remember I'd say eighty percent of my childhood.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell if it's trauma or what. I think.
Speaker 1: I had a pretty decent childhood. But even I can't
Speaker 1: remember shit. So I get it. Man, it's tough to
Speaker 1: recall a lot of that.
Speaker 3: Well, so I have this really meaningful career. I've been
Speaker 3: very successful at it. And then in looking at this
Speaker 3: whole situation, I have to look at, well, where did
Speaker 3: my group of friends go? Where did my stand by
Speaker 3: me pals go? After high school? Right? We all got
Speaker 3: off the school bus together. We spent our whole childhoods together.
Speaker 3: We grew up on the block together. But as adults
Speaker 3: you fall out of touch. I'm forty five. Things happened.
Speaker 3: I was an asshole in my twenties. People don't talk,
Speaker 3: you know, life, So I look at where did these
Speaker 3: people go? As I start digging into this, and I
Speaker 3: was a skateboard rat, I was a surfer. I got
Speaker 3: off the school bus with five guys and everybody but
Speaker 3: me went high end military.
Speaker 1: Is there anyone in your family or even distant family
Speaker 1: members that maybe higher level military or involved with the
Speaker 1: military in some way.
Speaker 3: My sister's first husband, who I don't remember, he was
Speaker 3: one of those guys with a lot of colorful boy
Speaker 3: scout patches on his jacket. You know, I don't know
Speaker 3: exactly what he did. That would be one of my
Speaker 3: only connections to it right on. But here's where it
Speaker 3: gets interesting. So I get off a bus in skate
Speaker 3: clothes with a ratty backpack, listening to nine inch nails
Speaker 3: like everybody else. That's sixteen. But let me describe to
Speaker 3: you that the guys I hung out with built our
Speaker 3: seacars with me, skateboarded with me. We rode bikes together,
Speaker 3: We shot fireworks at each other, and swam in a pool.
Speaker 3: We surfed together. These were normal people. One of them
Speaker 3: is currently working at West Point after having attended West Point.
Speaker 3: One of them hosted the UFC with Joe Rogan and
Speaker 3: traveled the world learning every martial arts style. One of
Speaker 3: them had a one fifty five IQ. One of these
Speaker 3: guys is currently in Czech Republic doing something I can't
Speaker 3: know about. One of the guys that I grew up
Speaker 3: with from my block. He had a job right out
Speaker 3: of high school making sixty grand a year when minimum
Speaker 3: wage was like five seventy five or seven bucks, and
Speaker 3: he couldn't talk about it. He had clearance. What are
Speaker 3: the chances that I just go to high school and
Speaker 3: that's the five guys I hang out with because it
Speaker 3: doesn't stop there. I had a roommate that was one
Speaker 3: of those guys got off the bus with me. He
Speaker 3: ended up being a door kicking operator. And then because
Speaker 3: you brought up the military connection, I'll keep going because
Speaker 3: once I had to look backwards in my life. Here's
Speaker 3: what I realized. The only girl I dated in college,
Speaker 3: her dad was so high up in the military. He
Speaker 3: had a sword hanging over his fireplace with a display
Speaker 3: of his awards. He was some kind of general. We dated.
Speaker 3: That was the only girl I dated in college. When
Speaker 3: I turned forty and decided that pharmaceuticals were poisoning everybody,
Speaker 3: was the first time I started smoking pot. It turned
Speaker 3: out the first guy I was buying weed from was
Speaker 3: a door kicking operator. The girl that I've been dating
Speaker 3: for five years, both her parents were in the CIA
Speaker 3: and they just moved here, and the guy that got
Speaker 3: me into church, who was my AA sponsor and mentor,
Speaker 3: was also an operator. I had to ask a counselor
Speaker 3: what percentage of the military goes to West Point teaches it?
Speaker 3: West Point actually kicks doors. She said maybe twenty. And
Speaker 3: I said, out of my limited world, since I'm an introvert,
Speaker 3: what are the chances that many military and CIA are
Speaker 3: around me? And she goes, well, mathematically like zero.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 3: So I'm not saying that any of those people are spooky.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying any of those people were in on
Speaker 3: some inside joke. But I think when we finished talking,
Speaker 3: you'll see why I, at least as a reasoning adult,
Speaker 3: had to question it a little bit.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of these things that people like
Speaker 1: yourself who have been involved with a lot of these programs,
Speaker 1: tend to have people placed in their lives to maybe handlers.
Speaker 1: Maybe these people aren't even aware of what they're doing,
Speaker 1: but for some reason or another, they become close in
Speaker 1: your lives and it in some ways have an effect
Speaker 1: on you. And it's very synchronistic and very strange at
Speaker 1: times to see that. Going back to the actual programs,
Speaker 1: were you able to recall memories from anything that was
Speaker 1: occurring there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. One of the things that I saw in
Speaker 3: the videos I watched about the Gate program that I
Speaker 3: considered minor at the time, but I'm reconsidering, is that
Speaker 3: there were at least a couple of times in the
Speaker 3: program that we were given a big cup of pink flooride.
Speaker 3: And the reason I find that interesting is that we
Speaker 3: now know, through people like Grand Hancock and science, that
Speaker 3: if you consume the right type of fluoride, it calcifies
Speaker 3: the pineal gland, and the pineal gland has to do
Speaker 3: with the way we connect out of body. Astral projections
Speaker 3: been looked at in scientific studies, and of course, going
Speaker 3: back to the Egyptians, they believe that that was probably
Speaker 3: the eye of Horus and it contains DMT and has
Speaker 3: to do with our innate functionality with astral projection. I'll
Speaker 3: give you some more memories, but let me let me
Speaker 3: just preface all of these, because I think it ties
Speaker 3: into the memories and the military connection that in the
Speaker 3: documentation I've read, it said that what they were looking
Speaker 3: for was kids that had the inate ability to astral
Speaker 3: project because the technology that they had encountered didn't have
Speaker 3: controls and buttons and dials like F sixteens, and it
Speaker 3: had to be operated telepathically, if you will, like through
Speaker 3: an astral projection, and military guys weren't trained for that.
Speaker 3: So they took F sixteen and F thirty five pilots,
Speaker 3: whatever the case was then, and when they put these
Speaker 3: guys in there. This is their documents, not my opinion.
Speaker 3: I'm not Alex Jones, even though I love the guy.
Speaker 3: They were looking for people whose minds could interact with
Speaker 3: it and not have the outcome the pilots had. They
Speaker 3: were rigid thinking, robotic people flying these jets, and it
Speaker 3: caused them mental distress to a level they couldn't handle
Speaker 3: piloting this maybe otherworldly, maybe UFO, maybe advanced technology, And
Speaker 3: it sounds to me like it's either recovered technology or
Speaker 3: technology we bartered for, because why would we build something
Speaker 3: that we couldn't pilot. So they were looking for people
Speaker 3: that had these abilities. Why give those people fluoride? Well,
Speaker 3: maybe it ties into another memory. Maybe they had already
Speaker 3: identified who could potentially pilot these things, who potentially had
Speaker 3: telekinetic abilities, and maybe they wanted everybody else to not
Speaker 3: be competition, not be a problem and not figure it
Speaker 3: out later. If we know floride is so bad that
Speaker 3: right now today they're making it illegal and water supplies.
Speaker 3: The first time it was used in water supplies was
Speaker 3: in Nazi camps. We know it pacifies people. Why give
Speaker 3: it to the bright kids, you're testing? Well. One of
Speaker 3: the memories, and I even saw pictures of it online,
Speaker 3: is they used to make us listen in sound labs,
Speaker 3: off site, maybe even off campus sound labs, and it
Speaker 3: was audio testing. It was specific tapes, It had specific
Speaker 3: images on the cases to these big eight track tapes.
Speaker 3: They had us listen for tones, and people that weren't
Speaker 3: our teachers would have us identify what tones we could hear,
Speaker 3: and then they played these repetitious things to us. And
Speaker 3: to this day, I hear one of those tones. I
Speaker 3: heard it yesterday. I've heard it my whole life.
Speaker 1: Did they tell you that it was fluoride that they
Speaker 1: were giving.
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, yeah, it was under the guys. Or it
Speaker 3: could have literally just been let's educate you on how
Speaker 3: to take care of your teeth. Somebody came in and
Speaker 3: gave out samples. You got a free toothbrush that was
Speaker 3: a dinosaur. But they started doing this in my kindergarten class.
Speaker 3: We did in first grade, second grade, third grade, I believe,
Speaker 3: even fourth How many years does it take to learn
Speaker 3: to brush your teeth? I don't know. But we had
Speaker 3: to take this pink drink. And if you look at
Speaker 3: what people have posted online, the folks claiming to remember
Speaker 3: things from date, they keep talking about pink drink and
Speaker 3: I remember it.
Speaker 1: Could it be possible that it may have been some
Speaker 1: other substance, maybe an ntheogen, or maybe some of it
Speaker 1: was fluoride, some of it a placebo, just to see
Speaker 1: the effects that it may be. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, let's go deep on it. Pardon me. I never
Speaker 3: suggested to any of my friends that I was ever
Speaker 3: in a CIA program. I never thought of it that way.
Speaker 3: But when I read the documentation, it's pretty clear that
Speaker 3: under the umbrella of mk Ultra, for national security reasons,
Speaker 3: they wanted to manage intelligence assets, and they considered high intellect,
Speaker 3: high test result driven people to be part of national security.
Speaker 3: So these programs were started to identify those folks. If
Speaker 3: we could talk for a second about a memory, I
Speaker 3: think it ties it all together. Yeah, so let's go
Speaker 3: deep for a minute, because I think this explains the drink.
Speaker 3: In the documentation I've read recently, it connects to this
Speaker 3: memory because it says in MK ultra, but it says
Speaker 3: specifically in this program some of the kids could be
Speaker 3: exposed to, say LSD. It lists other things, and I'm
Speaker 3: sure they have other things. But we know factually now
Speaker 3: through Freedom of Information Act, Congress has discussed MK ultra
Speaker 3: was of course real. No one disputes it, and they
Speaker 3: did test using LSD. One of my strongest memories in life.
Speaker 3: And to answer your question, from those times, I have
Speaker 3: a repeating dream, and you have a wonder if they
Speaker 3: couldn't give kids at school a delay reaction substance that
Speaker 3: affects you in your sleep, that affects you later that night.
Speaker 3: And who would believe a kid kids see weird things,
Speaker 3: talk to imaginary friends, They have weird dreams. So you
Speaker 3: go to sleep, you wake up screaming, your parents tell
Speaker 3: you to go back to bed. So the actual memory
Speaker 3: that I have is the only repeating dream that I've
Speaker 3: ever had in my life. And I'm literally starting to
Speaker 3: question whether it was a dream. So that first house
Speaker 3: where someone broke in, I'm laying in my bed. It's
Speaker 3: first grade. All of a sudden, I'm called outside. I
Speaker 3: go out my front door. I turn left and I
Speaker 3: look over my neighbor's house and the first thing I
Speaker 3: noticed is it's completely hush. There's no people, there's no winds,
Speaker 3: nothing's moving, there's not a cat walking by. It's still,
Speaker 3: and there's like an artificial light source above me. And
Speaker 3: then I look across my name's roof and I see
Speaker 3: what I could only call a UFO, A pretty clear,
Speaker 3: classic kind of UFO, a big one. The next thing
Speaker 3: I know, I'm I'm on it. Now. I'm not a
Speaker 3: person that goes around claiming to be abducted. This is
Speaker 3: something I've been reanalyzing now. But this is the only
Speaker 3: repeating dream I've ever had in my life. And I
Speaker 3: had it a lot of times, and it was something
Speaker 3: I told my girlfriend about. I just didn't think about
Speaker 3: it in this paradigm. But so now I'm on this
Speaker 3: ship and I'm in a big room and there are
Speaker 3: three frogs wearing what I would call robes, and they
Speaker 3: hand me about a foot tall brass ring with three
Speaker 3: tubes on.
Speaker 1: Did you just say frogs in robes?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: This is crazy, dude. I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 1: heard my story about my first contact experience through meditation, No, sir,
Speaker 1: I hear it. Well. It was the first time that
Speaker 1: I had ever experienced anything that you might consider paranormal
Speaker 1: at all, meditative experience. It's a long story, so I
Speaker 1: make it short. I made contact with something started speaking
Speaker 1: through my mind, and I now have an understanding that
Speaker 1: it's possibly my higher self that was speaking to me.
Speaker 1: But what happened was this experience led to this career. Actually,
Speaker 1: it really changed my whole life. It was a couple
Speaker 1: hour conversation with this thing, and it really was trying
Speaker 1: to get the message out that I needed to heal
Speaker 1: childhood trauma, quit my job that was toxic, and start
Speaker 1: this career. And it was very strange that this voice
Speaker 1: would have so much interest. But I have a better
Speaker 1: understanding of now what it is. I believe. But the
Speaker 1: next day, I or it was two days later, I
Speaker 1: wanted to have this experience again because I didn't really
Speaker 1: totally believe it. I thought, maybe what an acid flashback.
Speaker 1: I'm going crazy, I don't know. So I went and
Speaker 1: I tried the meditation again. This time, something intuitively told
Speaker 1: me to get in the water. I do and this
Speaker 1: experience was so much more powerful. During the conversation with
Speaker 1: this voice, something kind of took over my perception and
Speaker 1: when I opened my eyes, I could still see my
Speaker 1: bathroom everything, but when I closed my eyes, I was
Speaker 1: on a craft. And then these beings started to appear
Speaker 1: and they were all wearing robes. They were kind of translucent.
Speaker 1: They looked you could almost see through these beings. And
Speaker 1: there were about two or three of them that were
Speaker 1: frogs in fucking robes, dude, and they spoke to me
Speaker 1: and had a conversation. But when you said that, I
Speaker 1: was like, why that's the That's the only other time
Speaker 1: I've heard someone say they met a frog entity in
Speaker 1: a robe. So that's pretty crazy, man.
Speaker 3: This while see, this is why I'm doing this. This
Speaker 3: wasn't about me. I'm I'm not chasing any kind of
Speaker 3: clout online. I have become a genuine seeker in my life.
Speaker 3: But when this occurred, I hit the turbo button. I'm
Speaker 3: looking hard. So thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2: Really? Sure?
Speaker 1: So continue the frogs communicating or what happened with this experience?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they don't speak in words. That's how it
Speaker 3: was in my Mind's.
Speaker 1: Like almost seamless communication. Before you could finish, the answer
Speaker 1: would come in.
Speaker 3: Just another track in the audio in your mind, and
Speaker 3: you're almost remembering it because it was just said, and
Speaker 3: you're so startled it was said in your mind. You're
Speaker 3: almost remembering what they said, not hearing it. The hairs
Speaker 3: on the back of your neck, if they can occur
Speaker 3: in this situation. They're standing up, and so these things
Speaker 3: don't hand me anything. I'm just suddenly holding a foot
Speaker 3: tall brass ring three cubes on it. And I've looked
Speaker 3: my whole life at what these symbols all over these cubes.
Speaker 3: They were covered in symbols. What are these I've looked
Speaker 3: my whole life because it was such a stark dream.
Speaker 3: It was so vivid to me. I could see it
Speaker 3: covered in symbols. And at one point in my life
Speaker 3: I saw the movie Super eight by Spielberg, and I
Speaker 3: nudged my girlfriend at the time and said, oh, that's
Speaker 3: like those cubes from my dream. You know, they had
Speaker 3: a train car full of alien cubes. I went, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's like the ones from my dream. So these frogs
Speaker 3: in rubes make this ring appear in my hand, and
Speaker 3: it has three of these cubes on it, and they
Speaker 3: say in my mind, don't touch them, or you'll be
Speaker 3: like them. And what they were saying, and I can
Speaker 3: only tell you I got this without hearing anything, was
Speaker 3: move the cubes. Make them move on the ring. But
Speaker 3: like you can't use your hands, They're saying, don't touch
Speaker 3: them to move them, or you'll be like them. And
Speaker 3: I have no idea who them is, but I panic
Speaker 3: and I turn my hand and one of the cubes
Speaker 3: just wobble, swings and bumps my hand. The next thing,
Speaker 3: I'm off that ship. I'm in a lawn chair. I
Speaker 3: don't known in my front yard and where that cube
Speaker 3: bumped me. My arm is increasingly turning green like Neo
Speaker 3: and the matrix, but instead of silver, it's turning green
Speaker 3: and running up my arm. And then I wake up
Speaker 3: in my bed. Wow, Now, was I had that dream
Speaker 3: fifty times?
Speaker 1: Was there anything specifically that you could point out that's
Speaker 1: different about this dream than other dreams? Many people will
Speaker 1: have these experience will say that it wasn't necessarily dream like,
Speaker 1: there was some other sense of reality to it.
Speaker 3: I have looked heavily into the Gateway program, and for
Speaker 3: clarification's sake, that's through the Monroe Institute that fueled the
Speaker 3: CIA Gateway program. We can talk about that in a
Speaker 3: moment if you want, but this is stuff people can
Speaker 3: look up so they don't have to believe me. And
Speaker 3: I like being in that position when we're trying to
Speaker 3: divulge truth, right. And so the Gateway process had to
Speaker 3: do with astral projection, and I now believe that what
Speaker 3: was being done was I wasn't abducted. I was never
Speaker 3: on a spaceship. This was a construct. This was an
Speaker 3: injected construct. I think that I was forced to astral
Speaker 3: project and that is the location I was taken to.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't taken anywhere. My physical body never went anywhere.
Speaker 3: But I no longer believe that was a dream. I
Speaker 3: believe I was tested repeatedly, And it kind of freaks
Speaker 3: me out to say that because I didn't grow up
Speaker 3: on tarot cards. This is kind of crawling up the
Speaker 3: back of my neck as I learn it. You know,
Speaker 3: those hairs are standing up. But I do believe that
Speaker 3: now as a reasoning adult, I believe that I was
Speaker 3: forced to astro project and I was tested repeatedly for telekinesis,
Speaker 3: and that theory would sound insane until you read the
Speaker 3: actual documentation by the doctor that began the program that
Speaker 3: said they needed to pilot technology that had to be
Speaker 3: interacted with on an out of body level.
Speaker 1: Now, this is going to bring us deep, deep into
Speaker 1: the woo woo waters here. I've had quite a few
Speaker 1: guests that have claimed to have been part of this
Speaker 1: secret space program basically, and what these people claim that
Speaker 1: they are being taken off planet physically and they're having
Speaker 1: these battles with aliens. They're doing all of these operations
Speaker 1: for whatever Black Projects special access program that they're working for.
Speaker 1: It is speculated, and I've had many of people recently
Speaker 1: that have come on and talked about the possibility of
Speaker 1: just what you said. There could be either running simulations
Speaker 1: on these people through altered states, different types of heagens
Speaker 1: or technology, or they could be forcing an out of
Speaker 1: body experience astral projection, and what they're experiencing is different
Speaker 1: layers of reality where life forms and intelligences can actually
Speaker 1: interact with them. And I lean towards that because I
Speaker 1: do believe that outside of our perception, there's an ecosystem
Speaker 1: of life forms and intelligences that can interact with us,
Speaker 1: and it's possible that what's happening here is these people
Speaker 1: are being groomed and trained to be able to essentially
Speaker 1: carry out missions in these different realms, which is totally
Speaker 1: sci fi insane, but I think it's a huge possibility.
Speaker 3: Do you believe in inception? Yes? Just like the movie? Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: I promised you a fun conversation. Are you ready to
Speaker 3: go deep, get spooky as hell and even talk Marvel movies? Okay? So,
Speaker 3: so let me to be respectful to you, say I
Speaker 3: apologize for the smoking. This topic actually gives me shit.
Speaker 3: Thank you for laying me be casual. It makes me
Speaker 3: nervous because I get these little flashes in my mind
Speaker 3: that I'll clarify in a moment. But okay, so I
Speaker 3: see three cubes on a ring, I'm supposed to move
Speaker 3: with my mind. The Air Force has a program running
Speaker 3: to find telekinetic people that can interact with technology. Well
Speaker 3: what type of technology? Why cubes? Let's fast forward to
Speaker 3: where generation X. This is the X Men era. We
Speaker 3: all grew up on X Men movies. I have an
Speaker 3: X tattooed on my arm very clearly. That's in my
Speaker 3: family heraldry, and that's gonna become relevant in a moment.
Speaker 3: And so I start watching Marvel movies and they have
Speaker 3: Tessa Rax and they're these little glowing cubes. And then
Speaker 3: it turns out there's more of them, and what are
Speaker 3: they doing with them? They're opening gateways and things are
Speaker 3: coming through the gateways. So then I watch DC movies. Well,
Speaker 3: let me see, if you're competing against the biggest franchise
Speaker 3: in history, are you gonna try and steal their storyline?
Speaker 3: Of course, not like you're gonna do something competitive. There's
Speaker 3: so much material for DC. But what are they right about?
Speaker 3: Three cubes? The mother boxes that open gateways? And so
Speaker 3: now we've got the Gateway process, which ended up being
Speaker 3: the CIA program for twenty years. The movie Minister Goats
Speaker 3: is based on it. It's all factual. The guys are
Speaker 3: still alive, they've all come forward, spoken, NDAs ran out,
Speaker 3: So this is clearly happening. Now you've got gateways opening up.
Speaker 3: We have art pieces popping up on Earth that are gateways.
Speaker 3: I was in the gate program. It all starts to
Speaker 3: tie together, and I used to think it was what
Speaker 3: we all see on TikTok that the world's run by
Speaker 3: Satanists and they think they have to divulge their plans
Speaker 3: ahead of time, so if you do nothing to stop it,
Speaker 3: you deserve what you get. I don't really believe that.
Speaker 3: I think that there's a good guy team and they're
Speaker 3: using mass media to try and divulge truth and warn people.
Speaker 1: This is something that I love discussing and considering the
Speaker 1: possibility that there is some other force at play that
Speaker 1: is essentially leading humanity in a certain direction through symbolism,
Speaker 1: certain types of media, and even certain people who are
Speaker 1: in positions of power that are playing certain roles. And
Speaker 1: I even go as far as to think maybe these
Speaker 1: people aren't even aware that they're playing a certain role,
Speaker 1: but the way things occur, there's a greater force that
Speaker 1: is pulling strings that may be causing us to become
Speaker 1: aware and move in a certain direction.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think if we know anything from a metaphysical
Speaker 3: level to a raw science level, facts that no one
Speaker 3: argues about in the mainstream, everything has two polarities always.
Speaker 3: Everything around us is magnetism. Everything we are, every piece
Speaker 3: of matter is a vibrating frequency with an electromagnetic field.
Speaker 3: The Earth is a toroidal field has one around it.
Speaker 3: Our atmosphere. If you believe in it is a toroidal field.
Speaker 3: So if everything has two poles, isn't there always the
Speaker 3: light and dark struggle? I would think that there's always
Speaker 3: two compete eating teams, even if it's just mafia's there's
Speaker 3: always somebody that's got it in, somebody else that makes
Speaker 3: room to take some and they tend to compete over time.
Speaker 3: I have to at least consider, with all the information
Speaker 3: going around today, that there is some kind of mass
Speaker 3: awakening happening, like how a slime mold learns, and our
Speaker 3: organism on a physical scientific level is adding information to
Speaker 3: the place we all draw it from. I believe in
Speaker 3: the Acota record or source or whatever people want to
Speaker 3: call it. And there certainly seems to be a suppression
Speaker 3: of information all over our physical earth. Why would you
Speaker 3: ever want to suppress your populace. Why don't you want
Speaker 3: the most functional, adept bright, healthy people possible. Well, well,
Speaker 3: you don't want slaves like that. And so if we
Speaker 3: go back to base philosophy, I think the oldest philosophers
Speaker 3: have always argued to themselves and amongst each other, is
Speaker 3: this existence a school or a prison? So now I
Speaker 3: have to consider, even based in root philosophy the basics,
Speaker 3: are we really here as this beautiful, unique being? Or
Speaker 3: does everything on this planet harm us, including spiders and
Speaker 3: snakes and bears and our own son and we don't
Speaker 3: have any claws? Could this be more like a labor camp?
Speaker 3: And then I thought, well, that's silly, because the world
Speaker 3: belongs to us. But then I was shown something very
Speaker 3: clearly after having heard it on a podcast We just
Speaker 3: had elon Musk fly planes and give cell phones to
Speaker 3: an uncontacted trot. Yeah. Okay, so we think that this
Speaker 3: earth is our domicile, except out of the whole Earth,
Speaker 3: only thirty percent of it is populatable land, not all
Speaker 3: of that's actually inhabitable, So we live on a very
Speaker 3: small percentage of that. And then within that area we
Speaker 3: live almost exclusively half now in these tight little pockets
Speaker 3: called major cities. And on that same limited plane, somehow
Speaker 3: you have a guy getting on a private jet to
Speaker 3: have a custom cooked meal by a chef, using invisible
Speaker 3: waves to contact people all over the planet, and then
Speaker 3: get off that jet to get in a million dollar automobile,
Speaker 3: and across this tiny little region we populate is literally
Speaker 3: a guy in like a loincloth shooting arrows and so
Speaker 3: so I say that because could the other seventy percent
Speaker 3: of Earth that we have nothing to do with, essentially
Speaker 3: our oceans, could they be populated by things? I don't
Speaker 3: see why not.
Speaker 1: There is this emerging consensus that for centuries, humanity has
Speaker 1: been subjected to a rulership by anti human at least
Speaker 1: people are maybe not people, but this rulership that keeps
Speaker 1: us under control with anti human ideologies, war, illness, all
Speaker 1: the things that we struggle against. Right now, we have
Speaker 1: this group of people that have basically enslaved humanity for centuries.
Speaker 1: I've been speaking with many psychics, intuitives, channelers. You can
Speaker 1: say what you want about a lot of these people.
Speaker 1: I do believe there's a lot of frauds and scammers
Speaker 1: out there, but I think there's people who have genuine connections.
Speaker 1: But it's very strange the overwhelming consensus that has come
Speaker 1: out of the psychic community and people who are genuinely
Speaker 1: tapping into something that we are reaching a time period
Speaker 1: where whatever this dark forces that had control over humanity
Speaker 1: for centuries is coming to an end. And that's with
Speaker 1: this awakening and waves of awareness crossing the planet. Really
Speaker 1: is is humanity is breaking out of this matrix system
Speaker 1: that we've been subjected to, and what we're being presented
Speaker 1: right now is different polarities. In a sense, it's a
Speaker 1: test to see what we gravitate towards. If we're going
Speaker 1: to adopt the anti human, pedophilic, satanic ideologies, or if
Speaker 1: we're going to reject those things. I'm very optimistic to
Speaker 1: see that. It seems like there's more people rejecting those
Speaker 1: things these days than embracing them.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, and let me ask how are
Speaker 3: we on time?
Speaker 1: We got about I usually go sixty to ninety minutes,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you got about thirty forty minutes. If you
Speaker 1: need it.
Speaker 3: Epic, I'll get right to the points then. So to
Speaker 3: respond to what you just said, I'm in full agreement
Speaker 3: with you, and I think that it's as simple as this.
Speaker 3: I've noticed lately the behavior of people. I think that
Speaker 3: lockdown showed us a lot of that. And I'm not
Speaker 3: about to make a political statement. I'm talking about people's attitudes.
Speaker 3: So let me give it to you like this. I'm
Speaker 3: forty years old, I'm sixty pounds overweight, my body's falling apart,
Speaker 3: I'm having surgeries and I figure out I have to
Speaker 3: do something to get back on track. I was always
Speaker 3: an athlete. I have to reclaim my health. They had
Speaker 3: given me so many diagnoses. I had been through fifteen
Speaker 3: medications and it was destroying my body. So when I
Speaker 3: start looking at how the world works, everything here holds
Speaker 3: us down. And the only reason that it happens, the
Speaker 3: only reason the IRS puts its foot on our neck
Speaker 3: and pharmaceuticals can poison people their whole lives, is because
Speaker 3: we allow it. Because eight billion people don't say, hey,
Speaker 3: time out. We're all done with that. And so what
Speaker 3: I'm seeing through the use of technology is that we're
Speaker 3: all communicating with each other on a very different level.
Speaker 3: It's rapid fire, it's immediate information, it's fifteen second clips
Speaker 3: straight to the facts. And through watching scientists run tests
Speaker 3: with slime mold, and from watching scientists run tests with
Speaker 3: rats separated by continents, we know we know scientifically that
Speaker 3: an organism has a mass consciousness, that when a rat
Speaker 3: learns to do something in amaze in America, that now
Speaker 3: the ones in England can do so. And when a
Speaker 3: slime mold learns something and you cut a piece of
Speaker 3: that slime mold out and drop it in an unrelated,
Speaker 3: separately grown slime mold. It now knows that trick, It
Speaker 3: knows that path. So where is the information stored? They say,
Speaker 3: this is a simulation all the time. I believe in source.
Speaker 3: You could call it God if you want. But even
Speaker 3: for a simulation to run, there has to be a
Speaker 3: memory of it, and there has to be a hard drive,
Speaker 3: if you will. So I believe that as more people
Speaker 3: ask questions and have thoughts, we repeat that onto the
Speaker 3: ecosc record, onto the hard drive, and it adds up
Speaker 3: to a polarity in mass consciousness. And here's the simple example.
Speaker 3: When I turned forty and I got back on self improvement,
Speaker 3: doing push ups, my nutrition, getting off the food supply,
Speaker 3: filtering my water, meditating, push ups, daily yoga. This is
Speaker 3: my one bad vice cigarettes and I started that when
Speaker 3: World War III was declared. But my point is that
Speaker 3: when I started getting my energy up, maybe maybe people
Speaker 3: picture Kundalini energy or chi or the way that they
Speaker 3: show in meditation how you can actually move up in
Speaker 3: your chakras. It's this simple. When I was in a
Speaker 3: terrible mood and bad things were happening, I repelled people,
Speaker 3: no one wants to be around you like that. But man,
Speaker 3: when I was laughing and smiling and having a good
Speaker 3: time and asking people how their day was, they were
Speaker 3: magnetically drawn to you. And I think that we as
Speaker 3: a human do that overall, w around a little ball
Speaker 3: of everything's wrong, you're sort of repelling people energetically. It's
Speaker 3: a magnetism. I believe that what you stated is in
Speaker 3: this time, people are choosing a higher voltage plus sign
Speaker 3: positive polarity, and that's the shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think our reality is formed by our perspective
Speaker 1: and our collective perspective. And I like what you said
Speaker 1: about the hard drive, and I do believe in source
Speaker 1: as well. And I would put it even this way,
Speaker 1: that there is a central intelligence and we're all pieces
Speaker 1: of that central intelligence that observe and absorb information. But
Speaker 1: we also have a free will to choose what we're
Speaker 1: going to be interacting with, and that's how the central
Speaker 1: intelligence learns. And as we are presented these different polarities,
Speaker 1: we can decide what we want to align with. It
Speaker 1: seems like progressively we are choosing to align with the
Speaker 1: good with light. It may have taken some time, but
Speaker 1: I do see things overall getting better for humanity. I
Speaker 1: think it's a very important time that we're in overall
Speaker 1: as well. Now, I wanted to go back to your
Speaker 1: experiences for a minute, and you said that you had
Speaker 1: some career highs that may be tied into everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this isn't bragging. I'm really grateful for my career,
Speaker 3: but there were a few moments in my life where
Speaker 3: it felt like doors were held open for me, and
Speaker 3: I wouldn't talk about it as though I've been blessed,
Speaker 3: as though they were guiding it for my success. And
Speaker 3: I'm not a wealthy guy. I'm just a regular graphic designer.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: That's what I do as marketing. But I come up
Speaker 3: with an idea and it was the first time I
Speaker 3: remember the idea just sort of being handed to my brain.
Speaker 3: I'm seventeen years old and I invent a dual viscosity
Speaker 3: skate wax. I drive my dad crazy ruin in the kitchen,
Speaker 3: melting crayons and canning wax and coming up with a formula.
Speaker 3: I talk to manufacturers distributors when I turn eighteen, thinking
Speaker 3: they'll take me seriously. At that age, I go to
Speaker 3: the biggest skate distribution it's in southern California. I pitch
Speaker 3: my product and they say, do you want a job here.
Speaker 3: Now I'm working with Ogo Bags. I have my own
Speaker 3: backpack line. Now I'm redesigning big lines in this skate industry.
Speaker 3: I'm up the street from World Industries, which are some
Speaker 3: of my heroes. I'm in Iconic Huntington Beach. I'm selling
Speaker 3: products all over the world, protective gear, my own line
Speaker 3: of gloves and helmets. It's like the doors were held open.
Speaker 3: So then I go to art school. I get a call,
Speaker 3: are you still doing what you do? My ex boss
Speaker 3: became a Hollywood movie producer. He brings me out to
Speaker 3: his new movie studio. He sets me up with an
Speaker 3: investor and I have a clothing line come out. And
Speaker 3: it made it all the way to Mannequin's in Pacific
Speaker 3: sunwhere my friends are. They can picture your clothing lines
Speaker 3: in the mall. There were these crazy career highs, but
Speaker 3: that's not what it said in the paperwork. The reason
Speaker 3: I was looking at those is it talked in the
Speaker 3: paperwork about these people, meaning me, having to be subjected
Speaker 3: to lifelong traumas. And every one of those opportunities, including
Speaker 3: I stood in the boardroom at Hasbro and pitched a
Speaker 3: game fifteen years ago that's now a major part of
Speaker 3: the gaming community. Every one of those was taken away
Speaker 3: from me. Everything I ever built got stripped away. You
Speaker 3: could say that's any entrepreneur. But there were enough unexplainable
Speaker 3: tragedies that came out of the blue that I have
Speaker 3: to wonder after everything I've read, like that they could
Speaker 3: map out a very specific person you date in college.
Speaker 3: Is the idea of inception possible? And it is part
Speaker 3: of my life scripted because you said activated earlier, and
Speaker 3: in that paperwork it said they were going to identify
Speaker 3: and manage intelligence assets to be activated later when this
Speaker 3: technology was needed for defense.
Speaker 1: You believe it could be possible that there are different
Speaker 1: intelligence factions that have different objectives, possibly good and bad.
Speaker 1: Some of these are grooming children to be possibly working
Speaker 1: for the dark side for dark intelligence operations, but there's
Speaker 1: also this other side that may be targeting children but
Speaker 1: to essentially place them in positions that could make change
Speaker 1: for the better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So let's talk about the UFO conference in front
Speaker 3: of Congress yesterday and I'll wrap this in one minute.
Speaker 3: So we now have whistleblowers saying that Roswell was actually
Speaker 3: factually true, that we recovered a craft, that we then
Speaker 3: engineered some type of technology that can knock unidentified craft
Speaker 3: out of the air, that we have several of these,
Speaker 3: and that we have learned something from the technology, and
Speaker 3: the government has spent billions of dollars on it and
Speaker 3: covered it all up. This is now coming out in
Speaker 3: front of Congress. That's on MSNBC yesterday morning. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is happening in our real lives. The government has
Speaker 3: downed craft. Nobody on this planet we're aware of built.
Speaker 3: Here's what I think happened. We start downing craft and
Speaker 3: eventually somebody shows up and says, I want that back. Yeah, yeah, right, Hey, hey,
Speaker 3: maybe I want my friend back. Maybe they're claiming they
Speaker 3: have bodies, right, I want this person back. We recover ours.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't more advance people? So I want this guy back.
Speaker 3: So now they're communicating we can't do anything about it.
Speaker 3: That scares the shit out of the government at the time,
Speaker 3: and so they say, listen, you give us what we
Speaker 3: want and we'll give you something. Now you've got a
Speaker 3: little alien technology. Now you're talking to somebody from somewhere else,
Speaker 3: and you have open communication. And if I'm thinking like
Speaker 3: a war general, my next question is how do we
Speaker 3: kill it? If we had to fight it and it
Speaker 3: was able to just come here and do this and
Speaker 3: talk to us and they're around, what if we ever
Speaker 3: had to face them. Well, I'm not sure that you
Speaker 3: would activate that right now, because then it's discoverable, then
Speaker 3: it has a location. But if you know you needed
Speaker 3: to do it, maybe you could get people mentally trained,
Speaker 3: not physically prepared for this, and they would be waiting
Speaker 3: for a queue to do something that needed done at
Speaker 3: the time. I have to consider it.
Speaker 1: I've got different perspectives on this question, and that is
Speaker 1: do you believe that these programs are still in operation.
Speaker 1: I've heard that some people say that they are not,
Speaker 1: that they've already served the purpose and it's now about
Speaker 1: implementing the people who are in the programs. And some
Speaker 1: believe that it's still going on, but just in different ways.
Speaker 1: They have different types of technology. They don't need the
Speaker 1: children to be physically there anymore. They can enter their
Speaker 1: mind in their dreams and activate this stuff.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Yes, I believe it's still going on,
Speaker 3: because why wouldn't it be Okay, let's be honest. The
Speaker 3: government tries to soak up everybody. They can't everybody that
Speaker 3: would be a usable asset. Of course they want Why
Speaker 3: wouldn't you. The elites consider us a bunch of eaters
Speaker 3: and breeders. So if there's any bright ones out there,
Speaker 3: these are going to be houseworkers. And so here's the
Speaker 3: way I see it. If it was running in the sixties,
Speaker 3: and it was running when I was in it in
Speaker 3: the eighties, I would say, yes, of course it's going on.
Speaker 3: But here's what I think it really is. If they're
Speaker 3: not going to work for us, we don't want them
Speaker 3: to be a problem. You want to identify everybody, and
Speaker 3: I personally think we're managed like stock, as vulgar as
Speaker 3: that is. So they want to know what serial number
Speaker 3: could benefit them in what way, But also who would
Speaker 3: be a problem. If you're not an asset and you're
Speaker 3: really smart, you might compete with us, you might discover plans.
Speaker 3: They want to know people's morality and values as well,
Speaker 3: because what if you do work for our team, but
Speaker 3: you got a problem with what we're doing and you
Speaker 3: divulge information. So I think that what we have going
Speaker 3: on with countries is essentially a mob war to hold power,
Speaker 3: and different countries are different mobs, and some of them
Speaker 3: look like enemies and aren't. And they need to know
Speaker 3: who would be capable of making a difference or swaying opinions.
Speaker 3: And I think that ties right into the program because
Speaker 3: in the paperwork it said that we would have to
Speaker 3: be on computers and then we would make memes. We
Speaker 3: would be meeting wizards, is what is said. Okay, I
Speaker 3: was in poor neighborhoods my whole life. Only my dad worked.
Speaker 3: We never had new cars. But when I'm seven years old,
Speaker 3: I get a home computer and a programming book and
Speaker 3: I'm coding. When I turned fourteen, my dad that didn't
Speaker 3: I had furniture with no legs on the chairs, and
Speaker 3: this guy buys me a full workstation, top top of
Speaker 3: the line, new computer again. And right now today, if
Speaker 3: you go look at my Facebook, there's no pictures of me.
Speaker 3: There's no pictures of my family, my cat's what I
Speaker 3: ate for lunch, none of that. There's like five hundred
Speaker 3: pieces of detailed art that's anti establishment, anti pharma, anti
Speaker 3: big government, and has messages I felt were channeled through
Speaker 3: me about AI technology and wake up. It's pretty strange, men,
Speaker 3: that it fits this narrative that they wrote in the
Speaker 3: seventies and it continues to make me feel like my
Speaker 3: life is scripted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is so interesting. Man. I've got one more
Speaker 1: question for you before we close out. It's a very
Speaker 1: strange question, but do you often notice sequential numbers on
Speaker 1: a clock at specific times?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? It's only started occurring to me. Yeah, and I
Speaker 3: noticed it because I was in church for five years
Speaker 3: as the Christian believer, and I'm out now if I
Speaker 3: could state it that way. But someone told me the
Speaker 3: Bible was so beautiful because it was so immaculately written,
Speaker 3: and that's why Jamatria is important. So I studied the
Speaker 3: Hebrew language. And it's strange for me because my name
Speaker 3: in the Jamatria calculator in English Jamatria. My family was
Speaker 3: knighted in England. That was the heraldry. My name is
Speaker 3: eight eight eight. I was born at eight am during
Speaker 3: an eclipse. There's there's three eights following me around everywhere
Speaker 3: in my life, and all of a sudden I noticed
Speaker 3: every three three, three, every four four four right on
Speaker 3: my clock all the time, as though what I'm doing
Speaker 3: at that moment is at the correct marker on a path.
Speaker 1: Yes, go this way, Yes, man, I get the same
Speaker 1: thing with ones and twos. It's it's very interesting, all right.
Speaker 1: So if you have ice to see there seems to
Speaker 1: be this mystical connection to everything and everyone that this
Speaker 1: may be. This existence is more scripted in a way
Speaker 1: than we would actually like to believe. I believe we
Speaker 1: do have free will, but I, like I was saying earlier,
Speaker 1: I think there is a greater force that can tap
Speaker 1: in to certain people at certain times and possibly sway
Speaker 1: a decision or change the overall direction of that person's life,
Speaker 1: maybe for the better, maybe for a greater good. Who knows.
Speaker 1: But this is definitely fascinating.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's running deep in my life right now. And
Speaker 3: I know you want to wrap up, so maybe I
Speaker 3: could wrap it fired a show and tell you good.
Speaker 3: I think. Really, I'll keep this quick. But first of all,
Speaker 3: I actually somehow came into having all my report cards,
Speaker 3: and I imagine you guys can't really read this too well,
Speaker 3: but if anybody was to look at that, it says
Speaker 3: updates program. Yeah, And I only say that because I
Speaker 3: imagine that people are clout chasing online or something. But
Speaker 3: here is from McKinley school, when they said I was
Speaker 3: going to change classrooms and that I was going to
Speaker 3: be in this special tested program. And here's where it
Speaker 3: gets weird. They just kept testing us for everything. Bro
Speaker 3: I always got DS in math. I was ninety eighth
Speaker 3: percentile in most things there wasn't math. They put me
Speaker 3: on the math team, chess club, they had us after
Speaker 3: school program fitness. They made us presidential award all the fitness.
Speaker 3: And what's really strange is that now today, if you
Speaker 3: went and looked at my artwork, you might call them
Speaker 3: political cartoons. And what's really weird is the first time
Speaker 3: I remember being in the school paper in second grade,
Speaker 3: I drew a political cartoon about the president. So it's
Speaker 3: very strange that everything I put up now is anti war.
Speaker 3: And see the other thing is that later in in
Speaker 3: like second grade, they made us play all the time
Speaker 3: in the computer lab. And I say play because it
Speaker 3: sounded fun to kids. But part of this conspiracy with
Speaker 3: the Gate program ties into that game Oregon Trail, and
Speaker 3: my school taught a lot of Oregon Trail to our classes.
Speaker 3: Think about it. You died of dysentery first grade or
Speaker 3: what this is. It's resource management and it's bravery testing
Speaker 3: in a time of limited resources, right, And so they
Speaker 3: had us write a bound book journal in like first
Speaker 3: grade about how we would survive on the Oregon Trail.
Speaker 3: And then it's weird because I get a tattoo years later,
Speaker 3: and I'm not big on words. My tattoo artist fills
Speaker 3: a space by putting survivor on my arm. I didn't
Speaker 3: like have cancer or anything. So then it's really wild, bro,
Speaker 3: because when I get into college and I start designing
Speaker 3: my life, that they just called me and said, can
Speaker 3: we basically put it in the mall for you? Came
Speaker 3: from a guy I had done a very specific logo
Speaker 3: for I found that logo that I based mine on
Speaker 3: in a printed book in the Huntington Library. And now
Speaker 3: today this flag I have hanging up I see every
Speaker 3: day on the news because it's the Iranian flag center
Speaker 3: logo that read mark in the center. My college design
Speaker 3: was based on it. A clothing line I did was
Speaker 3: called Genetics. Now all we hear about every day is RNA.
Speaker 3: My line that went into the mall was called carbon fourteen.
Speaker 3: That's a very specific type of carbon we use for
Speaker 3: carbon dating. And I think we're finding out our whole
Speaker 3: timeline is a complete farce, a total lie. So then
Speaker 3: to finish up my show and tell, I began in
Speaker 3: church a project called the Soldier Project. I work with
Speaker 3: a girl that I won't tell her story because it's
Speaker 3: grotesque what was done to her of her story. I
Speaker 3: end up making rubber bracelets and the first thing they
Speaker 3: say is soldier, and I spell at soul, this isn't
Speaker 3: a plug. It has I am right on it, just
Speaker 3: like sourced. And then later in my artwork, I start
Speaker 3: making pieces I'm given and they say I am, I am,
Speaker 3: and you'll see them look at her tagline I borrowed.
Speaker 3: I was built for this war. I wasn't in the military.
Speaker 3: I'm not some gung ho guy. I've been wearing a
Speaker 3: bracelet that says soldier under a flag that says soldier
Speaker 3: with a skulling crossbones on it that contains an X
Speaker 3: down with all crowns. This is Memento mori. And then
Speaker 3: that turns out to be the skulling bones actual motto.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I didn't look into spooky stuff.
Speaker 3: This is from my college days. So my artwork, my companies,
Speaker 3: I formed seem to tie into this narrative, even to
Speaker 3: the point that I've been lugging a classic car round
Speaker 3: for twenty five years called a nova, and soon, right now, anytime,
Speaker 3: there's about to be the first for many lifetimes and
Speaker 3: many more to come, We're gonna see a nova in
Speaker 3: the sky. And the last time it happened was the
Speaker 3: Carrington event, the Carrington event that wiped out all the
Speaker 3: telegraphed tables on Earth that the History Channel's been saying,
Speaker 3: if we ever have another Carrington event, it'll be a
Speaker 3: lights out blackout. It seems to all be connected. And
Speaker 3: here's the last part of it. So, when I'm a kid,
Speaker 3: the dream about the frogs, frogs are reptiles or they
Speaker 3: look like them. Maybe I have that wrong scientifically, but
Speaker 3: in that realm, I become as a kid a fan
Speaker 3: of Ninja turtles. Do you think, well, so what? Well?
Speaker 3: I have a four foot Michelangelo statue in my studio.
Speaker 3: That was a fun gag on my podcast You're Gonna
Speaker 3: see where this is going. When I was a little kid,
Speaker 3: there was a painting of Saint Michael watching over me,
Speaker 3: and tapes were played for me at night repetitiously I
Speaker 3: don't remember what was on the tape, so I remember
Speaker 3: some classic music. I remember some fifties music. But later
Speaker 3: in my adult life, as I'm doing other things, I
Speaker 3: get gifts for our shows, I buy jewelry. I end
Speaker 3: up with four pieces of jewelry given to me. One
Speaker 3: of them Saint Michael. One of them is the symmetrical
Speaker 3: cross that turns out to be Saint Michael's cross, Saint
Speaker 3: Michael sigil. I'm not only wearing these. The first thing
Speaker 3: that I was obsessed with as a kid was Voltron,
Speaker 3: and that symmetrical cross is right on his chest. I'm
Speaker 3: sitting next to a giant, expensive Voltron also, and Saint Michael.
Speaker 3: My Ninja turtle is Mikey. It's Michaelangelo. And then I
Speaker 3: go pull this necklace out of my box. These are
Speaker 3: all unrelated pieces? Are you kidding me? There's the same
Speaker 3: exact piece I didn't even realize was on my ring.
Speaker 3: It's the cross on Voltron, it's Saint Michael. And I
Speaker 3: got a four foot Mikey statue watching over me. Yes,
Speaker 3: maybe I'm just putting meaning where there isn't any, But
Speaker 3: after what I've experienced lately with the contact, the single
Speaker 3: vision I've had. I'm starting to feel like something somewhere
Speaker 3: else wants to talk to us, and we have to
Speaker 3: let that in.
Speaker 1: Dude, you know, I have to consider everything because our
Speaker 1: reality is obviously so much more than we could ever imagine.
Speaker 1: And I think that's starting to present itself to us
Speaker 1: as we become aware. We're starting our perceptions are opening
Speaker 1: a little. And there are some folks like yourself who
Speaker 1: are starting to have memories that connect a lot of
Speaker 1: strange childhood events to a bigger picture of what's unfolding
Speaker 1: right now. So this is fascinating, Brandon. Before you go,
Speaker 1: I hope this encourages other people who are in similar programs,
Speaker 1: having similar memories to start talking about it, to start
Speaker 1: presenting the information. And I'm sure they'll want to learn
Speaker 1: more about you. So where can they do so?
Speaker 3: So if you want to check out my artwork, it's
Speaker 3: under Brandon Barnett. That's bar Ett, and that's on Facebook.
Speaker 3: My hashtag is human Rights Artist. Hashtag Human Rights Artist
Speaker 3: links to all my artwork. Since we're wrapping up, I
Speaker 3: won't go into anything, but I will tell you there's
Speaker 3: some music in there. I've never participated in music in
Speaker 3: my life and if you believe in this experience of
Speaker 3: being handed something. I wrote a sixty poem album with
Speaker 3: music on my lunch breaks and put it out on SoundCloud.
Speaker 3: It was a wild experience for me. So I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to get people to listen to my music. I'm
Speaker 3: telling you this was just a moment for me. Something
Speaker 3: was handed to me artistically that helped me learn about
Speaker 3: myself and it's wild. It exist. So you could check
Speaker 3: out my art, you could check out my music, and
Speaker 3: we used to do some shows you'll find on YouTube.
Speaker 3: I sent you my links if you want to post them,
Speaker 3: Chris and people are people are welcome to EMA tail
Speaker 3: me if they want to man, so you can put
Speaker 3: that in the link.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Brandon, thank you so much. I'd love to get
Speaker 1: back with you in the future. There's a lot more
Speaker 1: we can definitely get into. And until next time, everyone.
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