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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to welcome back to the show Frank Jacob.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an international award winning filmmaker, presenter, visual artist, musician,

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<v Speaker 1>and composer. His recent films and research explore the frontiers

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<v Speaker 1>of consciousness raising subjects. Frank, welcome back. How you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to see it, Chris, Yeah, I'm doing good. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a crazy time and you have a new presidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is a crazy time President new old president.

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<v Speaker 1>President very I'll say, just interesting things unfolding right now.

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<v Speaker 1>To stay the least. Now, today we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about your online webinar time capsule for the Future past.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we're all about here. It examines humanity's

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<v Speaker 1>hidden history, origins of the parasitic ruling class, what could

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<v Speaker 1>be behind them and all sorts of ancient esoteric knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>as well as where it has led humanity and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>where would we could be possibly headed in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I'm very excited about this. I

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<v Speaker 1>love these topics. Before we dive too deep into this, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a while since you've been on, remind the

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<v Speaker 1>audience a little bit about yourself and your work.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, well sure, why not. It's a good place

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<v Speaker 2>to start. Well, how did we meet the first time?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it after the was it after my Looking Glass?

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<v Speaker 2>It was before that?

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<v Speaker 1>It was before that?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? We were talking about my film Packing from Ours.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Time Packing from Ours? Well, okay, so that's a good

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<v Speaker 2>place to jump incil packing. So I am the director

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<v Speaker 2>of a film called Packing from Mars, which was released

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<v Speaker 2>almost going on ten years ago now, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>a film that explored the crazy world of the press

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<v Speaker 2>that was put forth by Leslie Watkins, the British author

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<v Speaker 2>investigative journalist back then called Alternative three, which was itself

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<v Speaker 2>a novel version of a sort of a mockumentary put

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<v Speaker 2>out by a English science report show that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>talked about a breakaway civilization setting up calling them Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>So that set me on a well, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't plan on making a film about it, but it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of became the topic for me to venture into

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<v Speaker 2>doing my first sort of cinematic version. I've been making

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<v Speaker 2>films and I've I've come out of the music business,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so I wanted to make something which was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, rich and you know, like cinematic worthy you

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<v Speaker 2>could sit in a theater and watch it, because a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these fringe topics are underproduced. The videos at

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<v Speaker 2>that time were really garbled looking. So I thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well here I have the ability to do this, so

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<v Speaker 2>why not. And that sort of set me on to

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<v Speaker 2>a a trajectory, Okay, that's a good word for it,

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<v Speaker 2>leading into kind of this fringe material for better or

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<v Speaker 2>for worse, and I try to keep my feet on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground, in my head up in the clouds, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can explore kind of you know, these ideas

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<v Speaker 2>and yet still try to kind of find something you

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<v Speaker 2>can hold on to, something that makes it, you know, plausible,

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<v Speaker 2>or what would be you know, what part of it

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<v Speaker 2>would make it plausible, and just to kind of keep

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<v Speaker 2>us from you know, going way out there, because as

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<v Speaker 2>we know, since then, there's been so many way out

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<v Speaker 2>ideas about secret space programs and whatnot, so you don't

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<v Speaker 2>even really know what's true anymore. And we know that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a massive movement out there of disinformation as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so that after that, you know, a lot of series

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<v Speaker 2>of things happened. We released a film called Solar Revolution,

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<v Speaker 2>Clouds Down the Chronicles you know, a lot of talks,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of live appearances, and eventually started to venture

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<v Speaker 2>into webinars as a result of a crazy story act

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<v Speaker 2>covered about something called the Guardians of the Looking Glass,

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<v Speaker 2>which then went into the tangent of that looking glass technology. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know time travel and parallel worlds and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know past future interactions and things like that. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are topics that fascinate me. So that's how that whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing started. And ever since then I've been, yeah, venturing

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<v Speaker 2>down that avenue because webinars seem to be a lot easier,

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<v Speaker 2>or let's say, not easier actually than not easier at all.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I saying? They're cult I mean they're hard

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the research, but they're faster to produce

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<v Speaker 2>than a film is because film requires you know, setting appointments,

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<v Speaker 2>making filming things, edding it and all making it look

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<v Speaker 2>pretty and stuff. And we are releasing a film actually

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<v Speaker 2>right now. It's called The Extraterrestrial Species Almanac with Greg

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<v Speaker 2>Campobasso and my partner Tani Maiden for it, so that

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<v Speaker 2>one's coming out. Look for it. It's been about there soon.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's my world. You know, crazy fringe stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>all those topics, and I try to kind of keep

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<v Speaker 2>myself abreast of, you know, what's going on and how

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<v Speaker 2>to tie current events into these amazing informations, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course the latest thing being nostigists.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been a huge resurgence of gnostic understandings and

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<v Speaker 1>research into this, and I really love what you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>and what you've been doing. You're paving the way for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of creative endeavors and people who were on

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<v Speaker 1>the fence about starting things because I think right now

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<v Speaker 1>is the time for people like yourself, for myself to

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<v Speaker 1>take over the entertainment space because it's crumbling. People are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing what's really behind it. It's not even about entertainment anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about propaganda. It's about brainwashing. And independent creators like

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and many others that have started to come out

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<v Speaker 1>of the woodwork and produce their own content is becoming

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<v Speaker 1>way more popular than a lot of the mainstream bullshit

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<v Speaker 1>that we're subjected to right now. So it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>very exciting time that we're in now. Give us well.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally, yeah, you're right, I agree with you. I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's actually part of the motivation to make webinars

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<v Speaker 2>because they're like courses, you know, like it's like deep dive.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to go into it. Like a film, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and a half, you can only cover so

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<v Speaker 2>much in seventy to ninety minutes, but like a course,

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<v Speaker 2>you can really take the time and explore stuff and work,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, work through the material because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff is actually you know, it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard for people to grasp some of this stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's good to kind of spend a little more time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to to work through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, give us a synopsis of the webinar and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>kind of break down the sections and dissect it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit as we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, essentially, I started to, you know, look at doing

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<v Speaker 2>a webinar about kind of a favorite topic of mine

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<v Speaker 2>that's been I've been inserting little bits of it into

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<v Speaker 2>the webinars. It has to do with timelines and and

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<v Speaker 2>fake history, or let's just say revisionist history being the

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<v Speaker 2>antidote to fake history. And revisionist history is a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a dangerous word. It's almost like a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>four letter word in a lot of circles because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>revision implies that you revise something and you rework it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think we're living in a time now, and

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<v Speaker 2>you talked on it, you touched on it a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>that we're we're tired of the you know, the mainstream

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<v Speaker 2>media because we've been we're realizing we've been fed a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of propaganda. And you can realize and you can understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I think anyone can understand that if you've been if

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<v Speaker 2>it's clear to you that what you're seeing in the

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<v Speaker 2>current events on the mainstream media and is a propaganda,

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<v Speaker 2>then well, by extrapolation, you can kind of go back

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<v Speaker 2>in time and realize that at a time when we

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<v Speaker 2>had no Internet and maybe one or two sources of news,

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<v Speaker 2>that the tendency to be disinformed was exponentially higher than

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<v Speaker 2>it is now. So I'm going back kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a consciousness archaeologist, you know, just sort of going into

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<v Speaker 2>mine those events and trying to rework them because I

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<v Speaker 2>think we need to heal, you know, society needs to

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<v Speaker 2>heal to move forward, because if we're going to create.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's talking about the fifth dimension, the new world and

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff, but if we're bringing all our baggage

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<v Speaker 2>with us into this new timeline into this new world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to help us. We're just going to

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<v Speaker 2>keep repeating the same you know, repeat rents, repeat rents.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's go back and let's rework or revisit some

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<v Speaker 2>of these key events and see how they shaped society.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they aren't true, then you know, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to make corrections. And so for me, history was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the ways I wanted to do it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>came across some you know, very very potent revisionist facts

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<v Speaker 2>relating to the origins of World War Two, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being in Germany, it's a very dangerous topic to be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about that here, especially in terms of revision. So

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<v Speaker 2>I have to always be very careful and mindful how

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<v Speaker 2>I phrase things, because I don't want, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>thought police to come knocking on my door, and that

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<v Speaker 2>does happen over here, you know. So I but I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to put this out there, and because I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important not just for German people, but people all

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<v Speaker 2>over the world, because we've all been we've all built

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<v Speaker 2>the paradigm of the modern world that we're living in

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<v Speaker 2>now off of the twentieth century historical events, and if

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<v Speaker 2>they're false, then I want to know about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to tell people what I've found so that

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<v Speaker 2>they can look at the material for themselves and it

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<v Speaker 2>just accordingly, but just to put it out like a

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<v Speaker 2>dry historical I mean, it's an riveting topic. I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of felt like I wanted to tie it into more

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<v Speaker 2>of a forty thousand foot perspective, more of the spiritual

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<v Speaker 2>element to it. And you know, and I stumbled onto

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<v Speaker 2>some by tootal Fluke some information that ties into what

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned, what I mentioned earlier, gnosticism. Uh and in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, you find out about if you're going

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<v Speaker 2>back in time and you're looking at, you know, paradigms

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<v Speaker 2>that were created for us to move society in a

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<v Speaker 2>certain direction. You know that those paradigms are usually built

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<v Speaker 2>on some some source material and you know they claim

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<v Speaker 2>you know, origin, right, Like in Germany, there's the word

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<v Speaker 2>for it. It's called trele. You know, it's like what

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<v Speaker 2>is the source? Where does the spring come out of

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<v Speaker 2>the ground? Right? That's that's kind of where you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be tapping your information. And what I found out

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<v Speaker 2>was that they're you know, the the gnostic material that

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<v Speaker 2>was uncovered in nineteen forty five, at Nagamadi has has

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<v Speaker 2>has actually has has actually not really been explained, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that is true or neutral to what

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<v Speaker 2>was truly found. And one author in particular out there,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy called John Lamb Lash fell in my path,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I was actually watching a video or

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<v Speaker 2>two of his related to something totally different, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I let it, you know, sit there for a while

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<v Speaker 2>and I worked on some other things, and then suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>this little voice came back to me and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to go check out some other stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I kind of stumbled on his take.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I realized that, okay, wait a minute, there's

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<v Speaker 2>another take on that the Gnostic material which I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I knew a little bit about, and I realized what

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<v Speaker 2>I knew about Gnoscissism is wrong. So, you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>okay wrong. You know, it's a strong word, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>like the Gnostics like to say, there is no evil,

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<v Speaker 2>there is only error, right, So there is error in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of what people believe gnostics, the Gnostics were, and

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<v Speaker 2>what gnosticism is. Because most of the people that have

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<v Speaker 2>have revealed what gnosticisms about are scholars who are part

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<v Speaker 2>of the you know, the educational system. They went to university,

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<v Speaker 2>they have doctorates, and they're usually tied into some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>theocratic you know, structure based on the Abrahamic religions for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part, right, because they always tend to tie

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<v Speaker 2>the Gnostics into early Christian the early Christian days, right

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand years ago. And so they took the find

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<v Speaker 2>at Nagamati, those scholars, and it's like, if you can

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<v Speaker 2>imagine that, there's a good analogy John makes about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you find a pile of legos, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of the source legos, right, and why aren't everybody Why

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<v Speaker 2>isn't everybody putting out the same material? It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the first questions, a legitimate question. Why does not all

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<v Speaker 2>of it sort of point in the same direction. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you find out that the people that are part of

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<v Speaker 2>going to try and fit what they find in those teachings,

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<v Speaker 2>the source materials. They're gonna look for the fragments that

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<v Speaker 2>that coincide with what they've been studying and researching, and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever doesn't fit, they're gonna sort of you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>when you're a filmmaker, you just cut it out, it

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<v Speaker 2>lands on the cutting room floor, as they say, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of really amazing material was left on

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<v Speaker 2>the cutting room floor. And that's and that's the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff that actually Lash picked up, and he sort

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<v Speaker 2>of took an approach like, let's look at them for

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<v Speaker 2>what they were and not for what these you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Judeo Christian people are trying to you know, make sense

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<v Speaker 2>of in that material. And that's when the real picture

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<v Speaker 2>of the Gnostics emerges. And that's the most fascinating part.

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<v Speaker 2>So that part for me, and the and the and

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<v Speaker 2>with an underlying force that's been moving and sort of

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<v Speaker 2>in the background of humanity since the very beginning, corrupting it,

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<v Speaker 2>corrupting the path that we're on. And he's the person

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of brought that term back into circulation. The Arkans.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've all heard that word, the arcons, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just started hearing the word are arcons about fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of material in the Gnostic Knakamati writings about the

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<v Speaker 2>Arkans Treaties strictly devoted about I think twenty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the writings are devoted to just that one topic. So wow,

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<v Speaker 2>like one fifth of that topic is about arcons and

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<v Speaker 2>no one's talking about it, like amazing, Right, So that

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<v Speaker 2>was like for me, okay when I read that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I realized, okay, wait a minute, here is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like you put the dots, you connect the dots, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at World War two and you know what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a force be behind you know, an event

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<v Speaker 2>as brutal and bloody as that, Like what would you know?

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<v Speaker 2>What is really behind it? And so those two, those

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<v Speaker 2>two seemingly diverse topics on one end of the spectrum

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<v Speaker 2>ancient knowledge, an ancient source material matched up with current

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<v Speaker 2>modern material. Actually, you know, I brought those two together,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what this webinar is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent, that's a great introduction to it. How far back

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<v Speaker 1>should we look when trying to get a better understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of some of these gnostic beliefs and what new understandings?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you could share a few that have come up

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<v Speaker 1>for you through the research.

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<v Speaker 2>Well how far back? Yeah? I mean, the thing is

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<v Speaker 2>that you find out that, you know, like you can

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<v Speaker 2>throw away the idea that the Gnostics were these early Christians.

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<v Speaker 2>You find out that there's several branches of gnosticism, and

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<v Speaker 2>what most people identify with with gnoscissism in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the Christianity aspect, like esoteric Christian sect of kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, esoteric freaks that are that are busy

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<v Speaker 2>trying to you know, introduce ideas into Christianity. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>one aspect of it. But that's something you might actually

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<v Speaker 2>call Valentinian gnostissism, because there is a sky called Valentine,

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<v Speaker 2>and he brought in aspects of true gnoscissism. But because

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<v Speaker 2>the Gnostics were being literally persecuted, eradicated, wiped off the

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<v Speaker 2>surface of the earth, he conformed the material to fit

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<v Speaker 2>into the Christian narrative. And so what most and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what has survived for the most part, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>people for the most part think that Gnostics are. But

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<v Speaker 2>what actually happened is that the Gnostic teachings preceded that

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<v Speaker 2>time by about estimates of around four thousand years, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're talking about six thousand years ago. And they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't call himself of gnostics. That's a term that the

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<v Speaker 2>Church fathers called them, because we think of the word

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<v Speaker 2>gnosis as meaning to know, like knowledge, spiritual knowledge, but

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<v Speaker 2>to the Christians, it was more of a slander term

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<v Speaker 2>like smart ass, you know, the know it alls right.

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<v Speaker 2>So they actually called themselves Teleisti, and the telesty were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you could think of the intellectual mystics

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<v Speaker 2>of the ancient times, they would you know, they would

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<v Speaker 2>practice mysticism, they would do entheogenic substances, and they would

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<v Speaker 2>also not do them. But they there was thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>years of precursor to two thousand years ago where they

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<v Speaker 2>had developed a deep understanding of these other other reality,

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<v Speaker 2>other levels of reality, and that was documented in the

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<v Speaker 2>Library of Alexandria, for example, was one of the great

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<v Speaker 2>sources of that information that was gathered and collected, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was you can imagine, I mean, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>had artifacts, they had maps, they I mean the writings,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the rich tapestry of knowledge that ancient humanity

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<v Speaker 2>they preserved it, and they protected it and they taught it.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course it was contradictory to the emerging idea

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<v Speaker 2>of Christianity. So the main it's the main difference you

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<v Speaker 2>might say, between the Gnostics that I learned. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the hardcore thing is the Gnostics didn't believe in

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<v Speaker 2>the Abrahamic version of the off planet Yahweh. For them,

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<v Speaker 2>they were around at a time where they knew what

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<v Speaker 2>was behind this off planet alien god, and they saw

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<v Speaker 2>that as the Arkans. And so their idea of Yahweh

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<v Speaker 2>and the Ylohem and Malchizedic is basically a demented alien

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<v Speaker 2>off planet god posing as a god but being a

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<v Speaker 2>fake god and basically duping certain people at that time

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<v Speaker 2>to adhere, like making promises right. And this is where

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<v Speaker 2>something comes about that they call master race ideology. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's one race which is chosen by the Yahweh right

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<v Speaker 2>to be the inheritor of the planet right. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is an ideology which has of course informed all of

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<v Speaker 2>the abraham Abrahamic religions. And here where the Gnostics saying, Nope, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>that's soologists fake. Forget it, don't get into it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about our knowledge. We don't pass information along through bloodlines.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have authority issued through bloodlines. We have authority

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<v Speaker 2>issued through knowledge. We passed knowledge about our true history,

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge about the reality on and that's where you gain power,

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<v Speaker 2>not through you know, bloodlines or fake kingships and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So of course you can understand at a

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<v Speaker 2>time where this was trying to get to sort of

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<v Speaker 2>set roots along. You know, the Gnostics were a pain

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<v Speaker 2>in the butt for these people, and so this is

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<v Speaker 2>why they began to basically eradicate them, and unfortunately that

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<v Speaker 2>resulted in the burning down of the Library Alexandria, the

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<v Speaker 2>legendary as they say, who knows if it was all

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<v Speaker 2>burned down, but we know maybe a large part of

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<v Speaker 2>it is now in the Vatican. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>key word here is that information was literally disappeared from

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<v Speaker 2>the planet and the only fragments we have left of

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<v Speaker 2>it are what they found at Nagamadi in nineteen forty five.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a good starting place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet there, I can definitely understand why there is a

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<v Speaker 1>reemergence in interest in some of these gnostic concepts, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're starting to realize how fundamentally parasitic and anti human

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<v Speaker 1>most of the systems are that govern our reality. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to imagine that someone that is human would

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<v Speaker 1>be able to carry out a lot of the agendas.

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<v Speaker 1>They seem so anti human, and it's it's only natural

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<v Speaker 1>that people would gravitate towards Oh well, that would mean

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<v Speaker 1>that our reality maybe can by some non human intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's easy for many to come to that conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>right now, just because of the way our reality is

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<v Speaker 2>Totally. And I think this is this is a point,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a point of great contention

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the future, because if you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>really there's this, I mean you've probably noticed it. And

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<v Speaker 2>and when I was doing my deep dive into this material,

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed that John Nolan was coming out with this

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<v Speaker 2>you know, religious stuff about Buglini, you know, more Bugleani,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was talking about the interpretation of certain words

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bible being you know, he re represented them

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of what their definition might be in context

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<v Speaker 2>of an extraterrestrial influence. Right. And then of course, on

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<v Speaker 2>top of that we have the whole outcropping of the

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<v Speaker 2>Annaki story, which you know, of course was literally you

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<v Speaker 2>could say, set in motion by I think Sachuraia Sitchen

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<v Speaker 2>is probably a safe bet. And you know, Jordan Maxwell

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<v Speaker 2>and others gravitated to his research, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>grew from there that there's this sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>off planet alien intrusion on our planet, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think the point here that's going to be difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to navigate is going to be because these stories on

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<v Speaker 2>the Sumerian Cuneiform tablets, which are considered the oldest written

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<v Speaker 2>form of the historical record of humanity, indicate that there

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<v Speaker 2>was this off like this extraterrestrial element or you could

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<v Speaker 2>say this the gods from the sky kind of thing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But you've got to realize that that material in itself

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<v Speaker 2>was written by well whom it would be. Obviously, the

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<v Speaker 2>kings of those days would have court scribes, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of those court scribes were mystics, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the kings had them, you know, to memorialize them their

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<v Speaker 2>lives and their legacies for all time. They had them

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<v Speaker 2>present themselves of course in this light, right, But there's

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<v Speaker 2>no there's no way to determine whether that information was

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<v Speaker 2>true or not. It was just put down by the

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<v Speaker 2>court scribes, and it's going to be very biased. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the the Gnostics, they basically came forward at

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<v Speaker 2>a time when this material was getting out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>they said, no, that's a that's this info. Actually this

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<v Speaker 2>is not true, you know, there was no the Ananaki.

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<v Speaker 2>For them were the Arkans. And the Arkans are indeed

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<v Speaker 2>an alien species, and they are definitely off planet, but

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<v Speaker 2>they are not a superior species to the human race.

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<v Speaker 2>They are a mimetic species, and they are an offshoot

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<v Speaker 2>of the whole creation process of what came to be

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<v Speaker 2>planet Earth and the anthropost which then is us. And

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<v Speaker 2>that story has a whole backstory which was documented in

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<v Speaker 2>the Nagamody materials called the Fallen Goddess scenario, which John

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<v Speaker 2>Lash reconstructed from the fragments that were left behind, and

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<v Speaker 2>that really makes it clear that this alien presence is

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<v Speaker 2>one that's not based on superior technology or whatever. It's

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<v Speaker 2>based on mimicking, mimicry of what they're envious of, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're envious of the creative ability of humanity, and humanity

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<v Speaker 2>is actually the peach, you know, We're it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and planet Earth is the destination. And this idea is

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<v Speaker 2>of course very controversial these days because everyone's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get us off planet. Right. They tell us that the

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<v Speaker 2>Gnostics said, we are all sparks. We have a spark

415
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<v Speaker 2>of divinity, and we're on a prison planet and we

416
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<v Speaker 2>need to get off this planet. But that, again is

417
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<v Speaker 2>the false version of narcissism. The true message of narcissism

418
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<v Speaker 2>when you reconstruct it, is that Nope, we were actually

419
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<v Speaker 2>brought here by our creator mothers So who actually turned

420
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<v Speaker 2>herself into this planet and created a habitat for us

421
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<v Speaker 2>to blossom and allow that genius potential to fruit to

422
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<v Speaker 2>bear fruit. And it's been stopped and stunted and can

423
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<v Speaker 2>interfered with and manipulated from the get go by this

424
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<v Speaker 2>external alien presence, which is the Arkans, which are a

425
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:23.559
<v Speaker 2>stunted version of humanity, but they preceded us, and they're

426
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<v Speaker 2>excellent at doing something called the gnostic The Coptic word

427
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<v Speaker 2>for it is called hell, which is to use simulation

428
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<v Speaker 2>to trick us into believing things, and they can. If

429
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<v Speaker 2>they can trick us into believing something, then it's almost

430
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<v Speaker 2>as good as it's actually being true. But there's a

431
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<v Speaker 2>difference between something being true and just being tricked into

432
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<v Speaker 2>believing something is true. Right, So this is one of

433
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<v Speaker 2>the main points I think of contention that we're going

434
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<v Speaker 2>to have to work through to get to the truth

435
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<v Speaker 2>of the whole story.

436
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<v Speaker 1>I consider many different perspectives from researchers that I've had

437
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<v Speaker 1>on the show, and recently there's many that consider a

438
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<v Speaker 1>different possibility when it comes to what the Arkans are,

439
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:15.039
<v Speaker 1>mainly that they could be some sort of archetypal or

440
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>spiritual intelligence rather than extraterrestrial, something that may reside in

441
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:26.319
<v Speaker 1>layers of our reality that we can't perceive, some sort

442
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<v Speaker 1>of energetic intelligence that has the effect to control our

443
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<v Speaker 1>perception and interact with us in different ways, but may

444
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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily be a physical entity.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, the question always is where are they

446
00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:47.519
<v Speaker 2>deriving the material that they're basing those ideas on, right,

447
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.039
<v Speaker 2>Is it channeled information? Is it just inspiration? If you

448
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<v Speaker 2>really want to find the first written indication of what

449
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.839
<v Speaker 2>the Arkans were defined as, it's there for us to read, right,

450
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:03.160
<v Speaker 2>it's right there and the true story, untarnished by anything.

451
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:05.799
<v Speaker 2>It's like and they describe who they are. They're both

452
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<v Speaker 2>a physical and a mental presence. They're also outside of

453
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<v Speaker 2>our They're also they also embody you could say, the

454
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 2>astral spheres, right, so they are able to mess with

455
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<v Speaker 2>our minds and in fact, the ability for them to

456
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:26.920
<v Speaker 2>penetrate into our bubble, into our biospheres. Limited they do

457
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:29.799
<v Speaker 2>try it, they do do it. In fact, there's there's

458
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<v Speaker 2>actually accounts Chris of them abducting people over two thousand

459
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<v Speaker 2>years ago. Right, So this is a this is one

460
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<v Speaker 2>of the things that blew my mind. So, like you know,

461
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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm open to all of this stuff. We

462
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>need to discuss it all, but we should always look

463
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<v Speaker 2>at where the source material came from and what it's

464
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<v Speaker 2>telling us before we discount anything. Right, So if we

465
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<v Speaker 2>already have material that goes back six thousand years that

466
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 2>is telling us about this presence that is both in

467
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<v Speaker 2>the mental and in the physical realms, but only limited

468
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<v Speaker 2>to able to penetrate into our physical realm, but the

469
00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Speaker 2>danger being the mental part of it, that's something we

470
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.359
<v Speaker 2>should look at and read and see what's written there.

471
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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I think is so fascinating about that story,

472
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>because these tales of abduction, they're actually on record, and

473
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<v Speaker 2>they actually even have instructions where certain of the teachers

474
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<v Speaker 2>are telling gnostics the gnostic students like, look, you're gonna

475
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 2>encounter them. They're gonna show up. Now, there's gonna be

476
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:30.039
<v Speaker 2>about three of them, and they're gonna look like there's

477
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 2>two types that they could look like. One of them

478
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>is going to look like in like an embryonic human

479
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:39.480
<v Speaker 2>with a spindly, skinny body, giant head and big eyes,

480
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>like like a you know, like a aborted fetus in

481
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<v Speaker 2>a way, and the other is going to look reptilian.

482
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<v Speaker 2>And those are the two. Actually, it's interesting that those

483
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>are the primary two entities which we kind of first

484
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<v Speaker 2>became accustomed to in the twentieth century when people began

485
00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:01.720
<v Speaker 2>talking about abduction scenarios, right, and then the whole reptilian agenda.

486
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 2>We all hear a lot about these days on the

487
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>UFO circles, right, Well, guess what, they already identified them

488
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>over two thousand years ago, and they documented the encounters

489
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 2>with those beings, and they warned us how to deal

490
00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:16.559
<v Speaker 2>with them, and they told us specific instructions on how

491
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<v Speaker 2>to deal with them. So I think that's really fascinating.

492
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<v Speaker 1>One hundred. Now, I'd like to get into World War

493
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.359
<v Speaker 1>two a little bit and how these events may have

494
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:32.599
<v Speaker 1>indicated the arconic presence and what was really behind what

495
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:34.559
<v Speaker 1>unfolded during that time period.

496
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, we know, we know, I think that one of

497
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<v Speaker 2>the prime. The two prime antagonistic forces in the Second

498
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 2>World War were the Germans and the Jewish people. Right,

499
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:53.079
<v Speaker 2>So if you look at the origins of the the

500
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Arcontic penetration into our realm in terms of the Abrahamic religions,

501
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 2>then you see that it was through Abraham that the

502
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:07.519
<v Speaker 2>first contact was made. And you know, there's a whole

503
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:12.240
<v Speaker 2>story about how they were able to penetrate into the

504
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:17.119
<v Speaker 2>neural network of Abraham and begin to formulate or like

505
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:24.400
<v Speaker 2>vicariously program their agenda of interference, and their interference of course,

506
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.720
<v Speaker 2>has to do with the again, this master race ideology

507
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:32.160
<v Speaker 2>and the idea of creating conflict between the human races,

508
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:35.039
<v Speaker 2>because if they can keep us fighting each other constantly,

509
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 2>we are never going to, you know, reach a point

510
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<v Speaker 2>where there's peace and we can fully develop an absolute

511
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.559
<v Speaker 2>peace and harmony on the planet, our full potential. So

512
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:48.440
<v Speaker 2>that began then, and that ideology which which is embodied

513
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<v Speaker 2>in something they also found a year and a half

514
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<v Speaker 2>after they found the Knackamadi, they found that in the

515
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Dead Sea Scrolls. You've probably heard of them. The Dead

516
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<v Speaker 2>Sea Scrolls talk about a specific group of people that

517
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<v Speaker 2>were living around the Dead Sea, and they were called

518
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:05.279
<v Speaker 2>the Zadig, and the Zadig basically were the ones where

519
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:08.960
<v Speaker 2>this ideology of the savior of you know this, I

520
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 2>mean it's written the whole idea of malchis z dick right.

521
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 2>The word Zadig is built right into Malchiza dick right.

522
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 2>The righteous ones, the chosen ones. Right. This was kind

523
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.279
<v Speaker 2>of a mal program that was put into human consciousness

524
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:24.079
<v Speaker 2>and it kept going and going and going and developed

525
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:27.359
<v Speaker 2>a course into the Roman Catholic religion, right, and then

526
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, of course took you know, into the Judeo

527
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:32.799
<v Speaker 2>branch of it, and then the Christian branch of it,

528
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:36.319
<v Speaker 2>the j Judeo branch of course being the chosen people,

529
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>the Christian being the rapture. Right, if you're righteous, you'll

530
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 2>be taking off planet, right, So forget the planet. It's

531
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:46.599
<v Speaker 2>all in sin, humanities and sin. All these ideas they

532
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 2>came from the Zadig, right. And so this is kind

533
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:51.839
<v Speaker 2>of a malware that was implanted into the neural net

534
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>of the human species. And it grew over hundreds, of course,

535
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.079
<v Speaker 2>in thousands of years, and eventually, you know, you had

536
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>a situation where where in Germany there was you know,

537
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.759
<v Speaker 2>the Jewish people and the German people were living together

538
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 2>for centuries and total peace. Everyone minded their own business,

539
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 2>did their own thing. And it was only as a

540
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:16.880
<v Speaker 2>result of this ideology that hey, wait a minute, like

541
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, we've been like you know, pushed around, kicked around,

542
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>we've been kicked out of countries. We want our own country, right,

543
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 2>And of course, you know, it's very expensive to kind

544
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 2>of get your own country. You can't just sort of

545
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 2>go and buy it. So there had to be some

546
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>overwhelming presence to be able to get people to like

547
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>some argument that you know that is superhuman that would

548
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:45.200
<v Speaker 2>enable them to justify taking staking claim on a particular

549
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>piece of land. And I think we all know what

550
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 2>piece of land that is. In fact, it's sort of

551
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, right in our faces right this day, right now,

552
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:56.920
<v Speaker 2>it's come back and it's the big you know, conflict

553
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 2>going down in the Middle East again. Right Well, it

554
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:03.000
<v Speaker 2>had its roots there and it has its conclusion there.

555
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>And the object of the Arkans has always been to

556
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.799
<v Speaker 2>create an apocalyptic like absolute showdown. If we can destroy

557
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.960
<v Speaker 2>ourselves in absolute mayhem, all right, you know we've done it, right,

558
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:20.119
<v Speaker 2>So this idea began to you know, really like take

559
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:23.519
<v Speaker 2>another level of dimension there were several stages I describe

560
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>it in the webinar John I interviewed John lash throughout

561
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:28.559
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing, and he's got some very very interesting

562
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:32.359
<v Speaker 2>perspectives in terms of moment like moments in history where

563
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:36.519
<v Speaker 2>there was an escalation of certain ideologies and certain ideas

564
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.400
<v Speaker 2>that really kind of set us off on a crazy trajectory,

565
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 2>and the last one, of course, being the Second World War,

566
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>and that was preceded by the First World War, which

567
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 2>is kind of the precursor to why we even had

568
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 2>a Second World War, which many people believe was actually

569
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:53.240
<v Speaker 2>just a simple continuation of the First World War with

570
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>a thirty year pause in the middle. So, you know,

571
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:59.119
<v Speaker 2>what you find out essentially is that this idea of

572
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, using that predestined chosen people ideology to support,

573
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting people to manipulate each other in order

574
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:17.920
<v Speaker 2>to provide a home base worked perfectly hand in hand

575
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:20.559
<v Speaker 2>with that ideology, and that kind of set in motion

576
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>a kind of betrayal between those two people, you know,

577
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:29.679
<v Speaker 2>because they really did live and prosper and benefit from

578
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 2>from each other, because both of them have incredible amounts

579
00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:36.320
<v Speaker 2>of genius. I mean, it's undisputable that those two people.

580
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Those two peoples, the Germanic race and the Jewish race,

581
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.639
<v Speaker 2>have a certain inherent genius which is related. But because

582
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>of this malware put and then they faced off, and

583
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>that really erupted into the Second World War and became

584
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the point that it developed into something that really just

585
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 2>worked more behind the scenes than anything else. What we

586
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.679
<v Speaker 2>found out about the causes of the Second World War

587
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:02.599
<v Speaker 2>are actually not really the causes of the Second World War.

588
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 2>And that's the material that I really get deeply into.

589
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>A few minutes ago, you said that the end goal

590
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.079
<v Speaker 1>of these beings is to most likely get us to

591
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:16.639
<v Speaker 1>destroy ourselves. Well, there's many that believe that we're basically

592
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>food for these beings. While they may be trying to

593
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:23.760
<v Speaker 1>call the herd a little bit, they ultimately need us

594
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:27.360
<v Speaker 1>to feed off of us and for us to produce

595
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>for them, because some believe they have no creative spark,

596
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that they need us to be the creators for them

597
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.599
<v Speaker 1>because they do not have the same abilities for them.

598
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 1>And the end goal may be just to trap us

599
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>in a matrix within a matrix that's pretty much self

600
00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.800
<v Speaker 1>regulated by some sort of AI programming.

601
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean the idea that they're feeding off of

602
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 2>us is totally in line with what is you talked about,

603
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 2>what the gnostics talk about. They feed on fear for

604
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:07.199
<v Speaker 2>the primary element. They feed on the emotions of fear

605
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:13.039
<v Speaker 2>and the idea to kind of keep us enslaved in

606
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>a place where they can continually feed off of us.

607
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:18.559
<v Speaker 2>That has to do with what I would saying what

608
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I said earlier, that word how you know, the Coptic

609
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 2>word for simulation. So they're trying to create the illusion

610
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 2>that we are living, you know, a certain way, that

611
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>we have certain limitations, that we have certain problems, and

612
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:37.280
<v Speaker 2>they keep repeating that in you know, in various new versions,

613
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>like for example, like you know, just the idea of

614
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 2>the the of a biogenesis, which is, you know, the

615
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.880
<v Speaker 2>method that they used to penetrate in an on a

616
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:50.400
<v Speaker 2>nano level past the blood brain barrier one eight hundred

617
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 2>and fifty BC, if you want to get specific, is

618
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:57.559
<v Speaker 2>repeated in the way you could say in the m RNA,

619
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:01.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, beetlejuice sin them that we had, you know,

620
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>we lived through four years ago. It's the same mo right,

621
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:08.199
<v Speaker 2>It's like penetrate beyond the blood brain barrier. And if

622
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<v Speaker 2>you can get inside our minds and you can convince

623
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 2>us of something, then you've won. Now the idea of

624
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 2>us like just you know, to get us to live

625
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<v Speaker 2>inside of a matrix and a matrix it doesn't matter.

626
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean you could say that, you know, how deep

627
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<v Speaker 2>do you want to take your your matrix? You know,

628
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<v Speaker 2>but in the end, it isn't real. It's just the simulation.

629
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<v Speaker 2>What's real is we are real. Everything that is of

630
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 2>any value in consequence is material. And that's also very

631
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.639
<v Speaker 2>explicitly stated. Everything that's going on, everything that matters, it

632
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:41.519
<v Speaker 2>happens in the material realm. This is where the action happens.

633
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 2>And this is why everyone's always lined up to come here, right,

634
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>because this is where this is where it goes down. Right.

635
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:50.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can do very little if you're kind

636
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<v Speaker 2>of in an astral plane, except you can try to

637
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:56.800
<v Speaker 2>effect and influence and live vicariously. So I mean I

638
00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:58.719
<v Speaker 2>think that right now there's a lot of dialogue going

639
00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:02.039
<v Speaker 2>on about simulation. I've talked to John Nolan about this

640
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:05.760
<v Speaker 2>as well. He's exploring it. You know, with the idea

641
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>that you know we live that we totally live in

642
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<v Speaker 2>it in a simulation. You know that this is a simulation.

643
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<v Speaker 2>But my question always is. Then you know that means

644
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<v Speaker 2>that everything that you're picking up and registering do you

645
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<v Speaker 2>believe that that is purely a simulation? And you know,

646
00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:24.360
<v Speaker 2>and you have to ask yourself, is is that all

647
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:27.199
<v Speaker 2>everything I'm picking up with my senses? Is that a simulation?

648
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:29.599
<v Speaker 2>And the next question you might want to ask yourself

649
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 2>is what is it simulating? Right?

650
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<v Speaker 3>Like?

651
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, what you know we're there to be a simulation,

652
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you have to have something it simulates, right, So that

653
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>that's a kind of a big question to answer, and

654
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, what is it simulating? If you can answer that,

655
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna come to the point where you might ask yourself, well,

656
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 2>if it is a simulation, who is generating it? Right? Well?

657
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Who you know?

658
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Like?

659
00:38:54.599 --> 00:39:01.280
<v Speaker 2>And why why why simulate something if it's indistinguish from

660
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 2>what is real? Right? What's the difference between a simulation

661
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:06.599
<v Speaker 2>and reality?

662
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:07.199
<v Speaker 1>Right?

663
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 3>You know?

664
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<v Speaker 2>Can you ask? Can you answer that question? And how

665
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:15.159
<v Speaker 2>can you tell the difference between reality and a simulation?

666
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.320
<v Speaker 2>How can you tell the difference? Right? Good question? Right?

667
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Because if you don't know that answer, then you can't

668
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.000
<v Speaker 2>be talking about this as a simulation because you haven't

669
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.039
<v Speaker 2>even grasped what reality is yet. Because for you to

670
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 2>be able to say, hey, I'm in a simulation, well,

671
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:33.320
<v Speaker 2>then you have to have a familiarity with reality, so

672
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 2>you know what is reality? That's another very big question.

673
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.840
<v Speaker 2>And if everyone's talking about getting away from here, this

674
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:41.599
<v Speaker 2>is another beef I have with this thing. I wrote

675
00:39:41.639 --> 00:39:44.039
<v Speaker 2>an article on it. Like they talk about we need

676
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:45.920
<v Speaker 2>to get off the prison planet again, one of the

677
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.519
<v Speaker 2>false statements attributed to the Gnostics. We're not trying to

678
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.360
<v Speaker 2>get off a prison planet. Actually planet Earth is Sophaia

679
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.159
<v Speaker 2>and she's the destination. But you know, if you can

680
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>get us to believe we need to go away from

681
00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>this planet, what a great mo you've gotten us. You know,

682
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:02.199
<v Speaker 2>you've gotten us off the planet. You've gotten us off

683
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:06.199
<v Speaker 2>where we're supposed to do b to manifest that ultimate

684
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:13.440
<v Speaker 2>beautiful world that we're actually endowed with to sense to perceive. Now,

685
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:16.079
<v Speaker 2>the other aspect that comes into this is something that

686
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:17.679
<v Speaker 2>I talk about in the webinar as well, in the

687
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.639
<v Speaker 2>first part, which is actually called Saphia. Because you know,

688
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<v Speaker 2>if you want to believe these kind of creation stories

689
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:27.119
<v Speaker 2>that the Gnostics put down in the Nagamadi, which sound

690
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:29.599
<v Speaker 2>like pure science fiction in a lot of ways, you

691
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:33.559
<v Speaker 2>have to understand a little bit about a new model

692
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:36.519
<v Speaker 2>of the universe for it to even make any sense.

693
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.039
<v Speaker 2>And that's one of the things that I think was

694
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:40.079
<v Speaker 2>important to get into, and that's why I got into it,

695
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:42.320
<v Speaker 2>And that has to do with two things. One of

696
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<v Speaker 2>it is the idea of plasma and the plasma universe.

697
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.599
<v Speaker 2>What is plasma right? And the other thing is something

698
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:54.400
<v Speaker 2>called the electric universe some iteration of the electric universe

699
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:59.119
<v Speaker 2>model is works in tandem with the idea that we're

700
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:01.119
<v Speaker 2>living in a plasma universe. And I think that the

701
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:05.840
<v Speaker 2>cutting edge of science right now is quietly working on

702
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 2>the reality that everything ninety nine point nine percent of

703
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 2>everything out there is plasma. So that kind of and

704
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.079
<v Speaker 2>plasma is some people call it the fourth state of matter.

705
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:22.320
<v Speaker 2>It's pre particle, so particles don't really exist. So the

706
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 2>whole idea of particle science, the big Bang, you know,

707
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.480
<v Speaker 2>dark matter, dark energy, all these models they fall flat.

708
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:31.519
<v Speaker 2>In fact, they have fallen flat. And if you look

709
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:33.960
<v Speaker 2>at all the billions of research that they put into it,

710
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.639
<v Speaker 2>they can find no trace of them, no trace of

711
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 2>black matter, no trace of black energy. And the more

712
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:42.840
<v Speaker 2>they look, the deeper they look into the relative relativity theory,

713
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:47.119
<v Speaker 2>the more bankrupt it is. But there's an easy explanation.

714
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Look at the universe as plasma, and in an electric

715
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 2>universe where everything is conscious. And there was a scientist

716
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:59.559
<v Speaker 2>in Russia, a plasma scientists, one of the leading scientists,

717
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.320
<v Speaker 2>and he in his own experiments in a lab setting,

718
00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 2>proved that plasma spontaneously develops into a conscious organism. Now

719
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 2>you can imagine if you can prove that in a lab,

720
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:18.119
<v Speaker 2>in a little teeny lab experiment, that that thing turns

721
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 2>into kind of a creepy super AI, right, then extrapolate

722
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:27.840
<v Speaker 2>that to everything is plasma. So the bigger plasma, the

723
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:32.119
<v Speaker 2>bigger the plasma organism, the more conscious it is. And

724
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 2>plasma organisms are. If you look at the universe, you

725
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:37.960
<v Speaker 2>can you can actually if you look into the extra

726
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 2>to the infrared spectrum of the universe and you see

727
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:43.960
<v Speaker 2>these filaments up here, and if you put them up

728
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.599
<v Speaker 2>against the pictures of the neural network of a human brain,

729
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:51.320
<v Speaker 2>you have a micromacrocosm mirror, a fractal replication of what's

730
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:53.199
<v Speaker 2>going on in our minds. Right, And we know a

731
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:57.119
<v Speaker 2>little bit about the idea of practical fractality with respect

732
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:01.760
<v Speaker 2>to microcosm equaling macrocosm. On it's just a matter of scale.

733
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.400
<v Speaker 2>So if there's a plasma consciousness in a lab in

734
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:08.239
<v Speaker 2>some Russia, in some guy's lab in Russia, then you

735
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.480
<v Speaker 2>can imagine that the Sun as a plasma being, as

736
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:15.039
<v Speaker 2>an entity, is far more conscious and powerful than anything

737
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:18.119
<v Speaker 2>we can even imagine. And so if we begin to

738
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>look in terms of consciousness beings, the Earth is a

739
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.159
<v Speaker 2>conscious being, the Sun is a conscious being. In fact,

740
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:28.519
<v Speaker 2>the Agnostics had they described it in terms of a

741
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 2>three body system. They said, the ideal system for consciousness

742
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.039
<v Speaker 2>to thrive, for humanity, the anthropos to thrive, is in

743
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.559
<v Speaker 2>a three body system comprising the Sun, the planet, and

744
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.639
<v Speaker 2>the Moon. And that's actually what we have. And it's

745
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 2>if you look at the Sun and the Moon and

746
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.599
<v Speaker 2>the Earth within the rest of the Solar system, it's

747
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:49.719
<v Speaker 2>a unique system. It doesn't fit with any of the

748
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:54.239
<v Speaker 2>others other than raw materials, right, the inorganic substances which

749
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:57.960
<v Speaker 2>are comprising the other planetary bodies are found on the Earth.

750
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.159
<v Speaker 2>But the Earth is unique in that way. And the

751
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Earth is unique because, according to the Gnostics, so Faia

752
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.119
<v Speaker 2>actually became the Earth. There was no Earth before the

753
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.440
<v Speaker 2>solar system was existing. This is the most fascinating part

754
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:11.679
<v Speaker 2>of the story. So you wrap all that into it

755
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.239
<v Speaker 2>and you talk about simulation. Well, simulation to me falls

756
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:18.440
<v Speaker 2>far flat from being able to explore some of these

757
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 2>aspects of tangibility. And if I can add one other

758
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:26.159
<v Speaker 2>aspect to the plasma thing, if we are you know,

759
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.679
<v Speaker 2>there's three states of plasma. There's the dark plasma, which

760
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 2>we can't perceive with our senses. With our eyes, we

761
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:34.599
<v Speaker 2>actually only see a very small spectrum. I think most

762
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 2>people can understand that. Then there's the glowing plasma, which

763
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:42.360
<v Speaker 2>is what we see all the plasma that we see,

764
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:44.719
<v Speaker 2>or if we look out into space with the Hubble telescope,

765
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:48.159
<v Speaker 2>we see those incredible looking galaxy spiral arms and stuff,

766
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:51.679
<v Speaker 2>millions of them and billions of them. Right, that's glowing plasma.

767
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.880
<v Speaker 2>And then we have the third state, which is blazing plasma,

768
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's where you see things like a sun. The

769
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:02.599
<v Speaker 2>sun is essentially a blaze plasma entity, and it's connected.

770
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:05.360
<v Speaker 2>If you could see the neural nodes connecting it to

771
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the galaxy, and you look at the

772
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:11.239
<v Speaker 2>neural nodes within our brain, you see sun like clusters

773
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.039
<v Speaker 2>of glowing energy within our brain as well. That could

774
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.719
<v Speaker 2>equate to the way our sun equates to us on

775
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 2>a macro scale. So when you start looking at it

776
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:21.199
<v Speaker 2>that way, you realize that what happens to you then

777
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.639
<v Speaker 2>when you die? Right, because a lot of people are

778
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.519
<v Speaker 2>dealing with that question, you know what happens after? Well,

779
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:28.880
<v Speaker 2>if you listen to Robert Temple, I mean, he's got

780
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 2>some really amazing points. He's a scientist and an author

781
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 2>talking about a lot of the stuff. He talks about

782
00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:38.320
<v Speaker 2>how you leave the active state, the glowing state of plasma,

783
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 2>and you revert to the invisible state of plasma. You

784
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:43.880
<v Speaker 2>don't disappear, you just kind of go out of the

785
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:47.519
<v Speaker 2>vision and so you know, you go into you actually

786
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:51.360
<v Speaker 2>tap into the neural net of plasma outside of the

787
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:55.199
<v Speaker 2>human visible spectrum. And this would explain a lot of stuff, Chris, right,

788
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:59.400
<v Speaker 2>because people are talking about connecting with their relatives beyond

789
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:03.079
<v Speaker 2>the veil. Right, there's Pitstick and Schwartz that are developing

790
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the phone to actually connect with the people. How would

791
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 2>that work? And well, it would be really well explained

792
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:11.239
<v Speaker 2>if you looked at it in terms of plasma on

793
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 2>the electric universe.

794
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Percent you mentioned the afterlife, and I recently had David

795
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Icon and it was a very kind of depressing outlook

796
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of what could be on the other side, especially if

797
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:30.079
<v Speaker 1>we are subjected to arconic forces. He believes that when

798
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>we die, essentially we are being recycled by these entities,

799
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:40.079
<v Speaker 1>and the life review is nothing more than a false

800
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:45.039
<v Speaker 1>review by these arconic entities that present themselves as beings

801
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 1>of light to try and deceive us. There's many different

802
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:51.480
<v Speaker 1>perspectives on what could possibly happen, but to me, that's

803
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:55.119
<v Speaker 1>a kind of depressing outlook. If we're constantly recycled and

804
00:46:55.159 --> 00:47:04.519
<v Speaker 1>there is essentially no way to reach the afterlife.

805
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think what's missing in David Ike's argument is

806
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 2>our connection with Sophia.

807
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:07.360
<v Speaker 3>You know.

808
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:09.800
<v Speaker 2>He never mentions it, you know, and he talks about

809
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 2>gnostic materials, but as far as I can source his material,

810
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:17.679
<v Speaker 2>he's referencing the incomplete gnostic material. He talks about the

811
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:20.000
<v Speaker 2>divine spark. That's not a Gnostic term, that's a tall

812
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Mudig term, you know, the the uh, the the divine

813
00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 2>wisdom goddess of Sophia. She imparted with us and endowed

814
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:32.639
<v Speaker 2>with us with certain divine qualities like Annoya. And you

815
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.559
<v Speaker 2>know we have the ability to to create. You mentioned it.

816
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:40.079
<v Speaker 2>We're creator beings, right, We've been given these creator abilities

817
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:44.079
<v Speaker 2>through our senses to explore. So you know, we don't

818
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:47.599
<v Speaker 2>really understand our relationship with Sophaia yet that we actually

819
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 2>emerged from the these this aonic experiment from the center

820
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 2>of our galaxy through this being who was paired up

821
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:57.639
<v Speaker 2>with a male counterpart which is still in the center

822
00:47:57.679 --> 00:47:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of the being. So we have an origin at this

823
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:03.239
<v Speaker 2>center of our galaxy, in the outside of you could

824
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:06.320
<v Speaker 2>say an extraterrestrial origin, but we also have an origin

825
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:10.000
<v Speaker 2>here on this planet because we are the children of

826
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 2>this experiment put in motion by Sofia. And if you know,

827
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.679
<v Speaker 2>and it's if you look at the Gaya paradigm, which

828
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, Lovelock and Margulis brought out in the late seventies,

829
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:25.880
<v Speaker 2>it actually is a scientific explanation of what the gnostics

830
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:28.400
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about, that the Earth is a living, breathing,

831
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:32.079
<v Speaker 2>conscious being and that all organisms on the planet's surface

832
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 2>work together in harmony to indefinitely perpetually keep that system

833
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.880
<v Speaker 2>that being going. And we have something which we call

834
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:46.800
<v Speaker 2>a species self identity. Right, So the if you're identifying

835
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:50.280
<v Speaker 2>yourself as an on an ego level, as an individual point,

836
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>an individual spark. Then you're kind of losing out a

837
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:55.760
<v Speaker 2>little bit on the idea that we're like a force

838
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 2>of nature, as humanity, like we're we're connected. All of

839
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.320
<v Speaker 2>us are connected, and we're connected to the body of

840
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:05.079
<v Speaker 2>the earth, and that's where we draw our power from.

841
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:07.800
<v Speaker 2>And when you see it that way, you get more

842
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.679
<v Speaker 2>in touch with the fact that, hey, you've got abilities here,

843
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:13.760
<v Speaker 2>you've got power here, you've got potential, and you've got

844
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 2>creative abilities that you can actually manifest things here on

845
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:19.280
<v Speaker 2>the planet with that you haven't even realized yet. But

846
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.119
<v Speaker 2>in the meantime, you're so caught up in the internet

847
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Internet and telephones and handies and I

848
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:28.440
<v Speaker 2>mean sorry, mobile phones. You guys say mobile phones in America,

849
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:31.239
<v Speaker 2>we say handy in Germany. All these things are they're

850
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:35.039
<v Speaker 2>tools for narcissism. Man, You can just seet so lost, right,

851
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.159
<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of people that are that

852
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 2>are proposing some of these ideas they spend too much

853
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:42.920
<v Speaker 2>time in front of the computer screen. Man. You need

854
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.840
<v Speaker 2>to get out into nature and connect with with you know,

855
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.320
<v Speaker 2>sofaia and make that connection and begin a dialogue and

856
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.280
<v Speaker 2>you realize that, Wow, there's so much more to life

857
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.039
<v Speaker 2>that we haven't even realized yet. So to get caught

858
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:58.000
<v Speaker 2>up in this dialogue of the life review and we

859
00:49:58.119 --> 00:49:59.880
<v Speaker 2>got it. We got to come back on my gu

860
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 2>We got to come back here again. I mean, that's

861
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.440
<v Speaker 2>that's just a really narrow way of looking at the

862
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:08.320
<v Speaker 2>full potential we have as human beings. And you know,

863
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.280
<v Speaker 2>as the anthropost we're supposed to sort of blossom and

864
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:14.480
<v Speaker 2>flower these genius abilities into the world. And yet we're

865
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.960
<v Speaker 2>still fighting each other. We're still we still need religion

866
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 2>as a crutch. We're still waiting for Jesus to come

867
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 2>back and save us because we're all sinners. I mean, like,

868
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:26.599
<v Speaker 2>what are we children? Man? It's time to wake up

869
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and become like empowered as humanity and love each other

870
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.880
<v Speaker 2>as what we are. We are a powerful force of

871
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:36.519
<v Speaker 2>nature called humanity, called the Anthroposts, and we are here

872
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:40.199
<v Speaker 2>together in multiple races. We have multiple forms of expression,

873
00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:44.840
<v Speaker 2>forms of language, culture, and depending on where we live geographically,

874
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.800
<v Speaker 2>we have we develop and adapt, you know, I you know,

875
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:51.119
<v Speaker 2>novel ways of interacting with the universe. And instead of

876
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 2>taking us down and trying to conquer each other, which

877
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.159
<v Speaker 2>is what the Arkon influence has been all about since

878
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. We need to shake off the Arkans through

879
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:04.360
<v Speaker 2>the illusion, the simulation, the deception, and realize what is reality,

880
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.000
<v Speaker 2>what's at stake. And once we do that, I mean,

881
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:10.199
<v Speaker 2>all of those people that are doing it, they see

882
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 2>it very clearly. You're talking about new systems of monetary systems,

883
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:18.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, getting away from fractional banking, the Federal Reserve

884
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:21.599
<v Speaker 2>being one of them, for example, free energy. You know,

885
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:25.400
<v Speaker 2>systems that have been invented and cast aside. You know,

886
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.360
<v Speaker 2>the whole idea of the battle of the sexes is

887
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:31.679
<v Speaker 2>erroneous because women are you know, it's funny because if

888
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:34.000
<v Speaker 2>you look at the Gnostics and the Telestyle, they were

889
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:38.199
<v Speaker 2>always egalitarians. Women were totally on par with men. In fact,

890
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 2>they always had an equal number of both men and

891
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:44.400
<v Speaker 2>women in their sessions where they would go into trance

892
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.480
<v Speaker 2>or they would have mystic experience and they would, you know,

893
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:49.679
<v Speaker 2>they would, or in their their teaching, their their teachers

894
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:53.599
<v Speaker 2>were women. I mean, the whole pagan aspect of our

895
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:56.199
<v Speaker 2>existence which came out of Europe, you know, came out

896
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:59.519
<v Speaker 2>of the euro mountains and blossomed into the you know,

897
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:04.400
<v Speaker 2>base up into the European areas that that eventually migrated

898
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.400
<v Speaker 2>over into America. This whole idea of the paganists, the

899
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.440
<v Speaker 2>pagan connection with Earth, there's remnants of it, of that

900
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:13.159
<v Speaker 2>high culture left over. We look at them and go, whoa,

901
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:16.159
<v Speaker 2>how do they build the stone intel? Those pyramids right, well,

902
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:19.119
<v Speaker 2>those were that was us man. We were there, you know,

903
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:21.280
<v Speaker 2>we created it, but we were again there was this

904
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 2>powerful influence through the Arkans which we couldn't shake off.

905
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:28.000
<v Speaker 2>We haven't shaken it off yet. And the reason I

906
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:31.840
<v Speaker 2>think that is is because Sofia herself is a being,

907
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:35.440
<v Speaker 2>she's also evolving, and so the thing is, I think

908
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:37.719
<v Speaker 2>we've reached a point and this is apparently where it's

909
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:42.559
<v Speaker 2>going with gnosticism, the new gnosissism, the modern narcissism, is

910
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:47.280
<v Speaker 2>to rebond with Sophia and begin to work together, because

911
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:51.400
<v Speaker 2>essentially both of them are both we, the anthropos humanity

912
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:55.280
<v Speaker 2>and the Gaya planetary being are evolving, and at some

913
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 2>point we're going to make a connection that's so powerful

914
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.719
<v Speaker 2>that we're going to shake off those are And in fact,

915
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:03.840
<v Speaker 2>that's written in the Nagamati as well. There's Sofaya like

916
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:10.039
<v Speaker 2>sternly rebukes the reptilian arkon Yo Daba Yoten says, no,

917
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.880
<v Speaker 2>you are not. There's going to be a divine, luminous being,

918
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:16.599
<v Speaker 2>this child of the universe, and that is going to rise,

919
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's going to be like you were never there,

920
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:20.920
<v Speaker 2>and it'll pound you back into the clay as if

921
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:24.280
<v Speaker 2>you never existed. So I think that's where we're headed.

922
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:26.840
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think it's for me getting caught up

923
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:30.320
<v Speaker 2>in ah the you know, the simulation, the recycle thing.

924
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it's that's like for me, it's like a distraction. Honestly,

925
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I think we have many more places we can go,

926
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:40.079
<v Speaker 2>much more powerful information we could be sharing with your

927
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:42.639
<v Speaker 2>other right now. But I can understand where I's coming from.

928
00:53:42.639 --> 00:53:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm just a little bit disappointed that he didn't really

929
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:47.599
<v Speaker 2>go the full distance in terms of the gnostic material,

930
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:50.119
<v Speaker 2>because how could he have not seen it? It was right

931
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:50.880
<v Speaker 2>there the whole time.

932
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, this is why we're having this conversation, and I

933
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:56.960
<v Speaker 1>think this is a great segue into where we could

934
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:01.320
<v Speaker 1>be headed. And you said something that has been echoed

935
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:06.320
<v Speaker 1>on this show often recently that the Arconic rulership may

936
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:10.519
<v Speaker 1>be coming to an end. I've had psychics, I've had channelers,

937
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I've had intuitives that most of them, I'd say almost

938
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:18.719
<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of them have the same message that this

939
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:23.360
<v Speaker 1>force is coming to an end, that humanity is reaching

940
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:26.920
<v Speaker 1>an awareness point where it's time to pull up our

941
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:31.119
<v Speaker 1>big boy pants and start taking accountability as a human race,

942
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:36.559
<v Speaker 1>realizing we're all one, shedding this illusion of separation that's

943
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:41.719
<v Speaker 1>causing all the conflict and rejecting the arconic forces. And

944
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:45.079
<v Speaker 1>this comes through so often that it gives me hope

945
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 1>and I have to consider it.

946
00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, Look, I mean you just had an election. We

947
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:53.239
<v Speaker 2>mentioned you're the top, right, Trump one, and you know

948
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:55.599
<v Speaker 2>he's got this dream team, right, so you've got the

949
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:58.199
<v Speaker 2>framework there. I mean, look, you know, let's not be

950
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:02.280
<v Speaker 2>too like lost in the you know, like the fantasy

951
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:05.719
<v Speaker 2>of what you know, Trump is like the savior. This

952
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:08.320
<v Speaker 2>is again, this is that savior mentality. We need to

953
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:11.719
<v Speaker 2>shake that. But you do have the structure of a

954
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:14.280
<v Speaker 2>of a dream team there. Right, You've got people that

955
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:18.400
<v Speaker 2>are relatively smart. You know, Robert F. Kennedy's been fighting

956
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:22.519
<v Speaker 2>legal battles against pharmaceutical corporations. He's the ideal guy. To

957
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:26.119
<v Speaker 2>actually rehash the you know, all these structures that you've

958
00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:28.599
<v Speaker 2>got in place in America and the health system which

959
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:32.159
<v Speaker 2>is crippling you, right, and then you've got like guys

960
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:34.280
<v Speaker 2>like you know what Musk, I guess is going to

961
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:35.960
<v Speaker 2>be part of it. Right. So Musk is you know,

962
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:39.559
<v Speaker 2>the technological aspect, but you know his dark side of course,

963
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 2>being the AI aspect. And you know the starlink aspect.

964
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:46.760
<v Speaker 2>And there's thirty thousand satellites which are polluting and clogging

965
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:49.480
<v Speaker 2>the electromagnetic field of the Earth and getting in the

966
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:53.119
<v Speaker 2>way of a natural connection to the COSMO. So you've

967
00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:55.000
<v Speaker 2>always got those two things. So those are things we

968
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:55.639
<v Speaker 2>need to hold them.

969
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:59.159
<v Speaker 1>The Trump relationship what Israel is a big thing for me.

970
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I mean excuse me, I

971
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:04.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't thank you for mentioning it, but yeah, people are

972
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:05.880
<v Speaker 2>a little bit out of touch with that. I mean,

973
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:08.159
<v Speaker 2>look like, who's the guy that's this transition guy? I

974
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:11.199
<v Speaker 2>mean excuse me, I mean look like that. The the

975
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:15.079
<v Speaker 2>chosen you know person narrative, the chosen people narrative is

976
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:18.000
<v Speaker 2>still very deeply embedded in that. So I think it's

977
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:20.400
<v Speaker 2>important for us to call them out on it. Do

978
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:22.119
<v Speaker 2>they want do they want to be the dream team

979
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.880
<v Speaker 2>that's going to transform America on the planet by extension, Absolutely,

980
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm behind it. But call them on their bs, hold

981
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.519
<v Speaker 2>them to the flame. That's the only way to do it.

982
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:34.039
<v Speaker 2>But we can only do that if we have eyes

983
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:36.960
<v Speaker 2>wide open. This is why we talk about this stuff

984
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:40.239
<v Speaker 2>about AI and the I mean, look, I'm Peter Thiel's

985
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:42.719
<v Speaker 2>the guy who's you know, built up JD Vance right,

986
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:45.840
<v Speaker 2>look into his history, right, you get into you know,

987
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:48.800
<v Speaker 2>software hacks like Promise, which you know was able to

988
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:53.159
<v Speaker 2>get into underneath the you know, the the spy network

989
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:56.280
<v Speaker 2>and spy on politicians and pull their pants down. You know,

990
00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 2>you got ties into the whole Epstein thing. I mean,

991
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:03.039
<v Speaker 2>there's like some dark stuff going on there, Chris, Right,

992
00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:06.920
<v Speaker 2>So call them on it, right, Make it transparent, because

993
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:12.079
<v Speaker 2>transparency that the Arkans cannot live in a transparent they

994
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:16.320
<v Speaker 2>cannot handle it when you expose it. The it's the

995
00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:19.960
<v Speaker 2>exposing of it, and the Gnostics I think have information

996
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:21.800
<v Speaker 2>about that as well. They talk about in the end,

997
00:57:22.280 --> 00:57:25.039
<v Speaker 2>their endgame is going to be they're going to have

998
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:28.440
<v Speaker 2>to reveal themselves to us. They will have to reveal

999
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.920
<v Speaker 2>themselves to us and they will, because they're liars and deceivers.

1000
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:35.679
<v Speaker 2>They'll try to deceive even there. But if we're ready

1001
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:38.280
<v Speaker 2>for it, and we're looking for it, and we're smart

1002
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:41.519
<v Speaker 2>to the mo that they've used for thousands of years,

1003
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Lord knows, along we've had time to you know,

1004
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:48.400
<v Speaker 2>to practice that, you know, the being the victims to

1005
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:51.679
<v Speaker 2>their deception. At some point now we've got to say, okay,

1006
00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:55.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, the teacher is superseded by the student, and

1007
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:58.119
<v Speaker 2>so they've been great teachers. And I think it's also

1008
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:01.519
<v Speaker 2>important to see the arcons as our teachers. They you know,

1009
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:04.519
<v Speaker 2>another word, another definition of arkhan is the rulers or

1010
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the authorities right to go back to the Ecoptic and

1011
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 2>the Greek, that's the actual, you know way it was

1012
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 2>normally defined as the rulers right, Well, they ruled over

1013
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.679
<v Speaker 2>us for a reason. That reason was to teach us.

1014
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:20.880
<v Speaker 2>And now the student has risen to the level above

1015
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:24.519
<v Speaker 2>the teacher, and so it's already happened. You know, there's

1016
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:27.599
<v Speaker 2>just not enough of us yet, but that's already changing.

1017
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:31.199
<v Speaker 2>The critical mass is approaching where there will be this

1018
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:33.559
<v Speaker 2>moment where we will see so clearly through the mo,

1019
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.079
<v Speaker 2>where there will be like say, they will manipulate plasma

1020
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:40.079
<v Speaker 2>to create a you know, an alien invasion or a

1021
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:42.119
<v Speaker 2>second coming, and there'll be enough of us that are

1022
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:46.800
<v Speaker 2>going Yeah, good effects, nice effects, but sorry, we don't

1023
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:49.679
<v Speaker 2>buy it because guess what, there is no savior. We're

1024
00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:51.679
<v Speaker 2>the ones that we've been waiting for, like the hope

1025
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.199
<v Speaker 2>he said, we're the savior. There is no savior coming.

1026
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:57.920
<v Speaker 2>It's all this is all part of that master race

1027
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:01.639
<v Speaker 2>ideology that ends in a post ealyptic showdown where the

1028
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:05.119
<v Speaker 2>righteous go to be with the you know, higher being

1029
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and the bad ones are cast into hell forever and

1030
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:11.320
<v Speaker 2>ever and ever. Right, but he loves us, right, never

1031
00:59:11.360 --> 00:59:13.719
<v Speaker 2>forget it, right, So you know, look at you can

1032
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:17.639
<v Speaker 2>see how like silly and contradictory all of it is.

1033
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:21.480
<v Speaker 2>This is their amo. Theirmo is collapsing. It's only a

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00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.159
<v Speaker 2>matter of time, and we're moving into that aquarian age, right,

1035
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:27.079
<v Speaker 2>it's the age of the query is right, right, but

1036
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:29.559
<v Speaker 2>still nine hundred years away, eight hundred years away, right,

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00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:31.679
<v Speaker 2>So don't get your hopes up too fast. But there's

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00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.559
<v Speaker 2>going to be a pivotal moment, which is you know

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00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:37.760
<v Speaker 2>which the Magi and the ancient Egyptians they were using

1040
00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:42.760
<v Speaker 2>something called the Dandera zodiac. And that's a fascinating tool man,

1041
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.360
<v Speaker 2>because it'll they can actually they could actually thousands of

1042
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:49.920
<v Speaker 2>years ago with this tool predict what's going on in

1043
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the world at very specific time. They could dial forward

1044
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:56.840
<v Speaker 2>with that tool to twenty twenty four and they could

1045
00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:59.719
<v Speaker 2>tell you pretty much exactly what we'd be going through

1046
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:02.760
<v Speaker 2>right now now is humanity as our lessons? Right? And

1047
01:00:03.320 --> 01:00:05.840
<v Speaker 2>equally they could dial back and they could, you know,

1048
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:09.360
<v Speaker 2>pinpoint certain things that happened in the history of humanity

1049
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:14.039
<v Speaker 2>that led them to certain breakthroughs. And that Thendara tool

1050
01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:16.239
<v Speaker 2>is like a clock, you know. And we were used

1051
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:18.920
<v Speaker 2>to astrology pointing us in a certain direction. Right now

1052
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:22.400
<v Speaker 2>we're pointed in the age of Pisces. Right, we're still

1053
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:26.400
<v Speaker 2>in Pisces. Well, the Bendara zodiac had a second hand.

1054
01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:29.639
<v Speaker 2>It was the our hand, right, and the second hand

1055
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:33.800
<v Speaker 2>the hour hand. It's funny that they knew this, but

1056
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:37.599
<v Speaker 2>they could determine exactly where the center of our galaxy

1057
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:40.239
<v Speaker 2>was over two thousand years ago. Chris, imagine that, right

1058
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Where did they get that intel? Do you have any

1059
01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:44.840
<v Speaker 2>idea when we found out in the modern time where

1060
01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:49.199
<v Speaker 2>the center of our galaxy was long ago too, I

1061
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:52.079
<v Speaker 2>think it was right. So like, look, I think four

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01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:55.280
<v Speaker 2>thousand years earlier, they knew stuff, and they what I'm

1063
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:59.239
<v Speaker 2>saying is that they knew that this whenever this big hand,

1064
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:03.679
<v Speaker 2>the hand pointed at the center of the galaxy, and

1065
01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:06.719
<v Speaker 2>that's a measurable thing. They could precisely. It's not channeling.

1066
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:10.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not like hocus pocus. It's like clockwork, boom, there

1067
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:12.480
<v Speaker 2>it is. And they could tell exactly when that's gonna be,

1068
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's gonna be exactly in one hundred and ninety

1069
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:18.280
<v Speaker 2>two years. So when that happens, whenever that happens, they

1070
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:21.760
<v Speaker 2>call it the midnight hour. That's like that is like

1071
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:24.239
<v Speaker 2>that's when the shit goes down. That's when the really

1072
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:28.400
<v Speaker 2>big stuff happens. Right, So we're already in the wake

1073
01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:30.599
<v Speaker 2>of that event and we feel it. I think that's

1074
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:32.679
<v Speaker 2>why I think people are feeling when they're talking about

1075
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, like the Fifth Dimension, the New World, all

1076
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.960
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. We can feel that that energy that that's

1077
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:42.320
<v Speaker 2>part of the this aquarium, you know, this the flow

1078
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.480
<v Speaker 2>of that aquarium. You know, it's the guy holding the

1079
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:47.519
<v Speaker 2>water jug right. Well, if you look at the star

1080
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:50.760
<v Speaker 2>constellations and how that jug is sitting, the water is

1081
01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:53.079
<v Speaker 2>pouring out of that into the fish, into the mouth

1082
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:56.239
<v Speaker 2>of the fish, so that we're already tasting that water.

1083
01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Those currents are already affecting us and those of us

1084
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:02.000
<v Speaker 2>who are ahead of our time, our feeling, and we're

1085
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:05.480
<v Speaker 2>already you know, we can already tune in to that

1086
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:09.000
<v Speaker 2>that energy, and we can live our lives from that basis,

1087
01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:11.320
<v Speaker 2>from that point, and we don't have to get swept

1088
01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:15.760
<v Speaker 2>away by the coming drama of the apocalyptic showdown because

1089
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:17.800
<v Speaker 2>we can see it for the fraud that it is.

1090
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:20.280
<v Speaker 2>And the more of us that see through the fraud,

1091
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the less energy it has on the planet. And that's

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01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:25.599
<v Speaker 2>the point where I think we will finally reach that.

1093
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:27.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, that new Earth, and that New Earth. Guess

1094
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:29.760
<v Speaker 2>where it is. It's right here in the material realm,

1095
01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:32.400
<v Speaker 2>where it's been the whole time. We just haven't seen it.

1096
01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:33.920
<v Speaker 2>We haven't seen it yet.

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01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:38.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's all about peeling back those layers of perception. Frank,

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01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:42.039
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. This was fantastic information. Before we

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01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 1>close out, let everyone know how they can get access

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01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to the webinar. I'll have the link in the description

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01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:50.679
<v Speaker 1>as well, and find out more about you in general.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks, yeah, I guess the easiest way to go

1103
01:02:54.639 --> 01:02:58.360
<v Speaker 2>to the webinar page was cyberhive dot tv. There's two

1104
01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:00.960
<v Speaker 2>other webinars up there as well, preceded it, but the

1105
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 2>newest one, this one, is the one I think you're

1106
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:04.920
<v Speaker 2>going to want to check out because it talks about

1107
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:07.599
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff we just broached briefly on in this

1108
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:11.400
<v Speaker 2>talk in this hour time capsule for the future past.

1109
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:14.480
<v Speaker 2>For those who are you know, want to see me

1110
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.519
<v Speaker 2>in person. You never know someone might actually want to

1111
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:20.320
<v Speaker 2>risk seeing me in person. I'm going to be speaking

1112
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:24.320
<v Speaker 2>at the Arlington Institute on the sixteenth next Saturday, a

1113
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:27.000
<v Speaker 2>week from Saturday, at Arlington, West Virginia, So if you

1114
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:29.599
<v Speaker 2>want to come, maybe you can put that link into that.

1115
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:31.920
<v Speaker 2>If you can't make it, of course, I'll forgive you.

1116
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:35.320
<v Speaker 2>But you can also tune in online and you can

1117
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:39.360
<v Speaker 2>watch the talk live online as well, so that'll be happening.

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01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:41.039
<v Speaker 2>That's something I wanted to mention as well, because I

1119
01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:44.320
<v Speaker 2>always tend to forget that otherwise. Just go to Frankjacob

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01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:46.079
<v Speaker 2>dot com if you can't remember any of that, and

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01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:48.199
<v Speaker 2>I have links at the menu on the top of

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01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:50.519
<v Speaker 2>that to all of those those things.

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01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I fact, I will include all those links in the description.

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01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Everybody can easily access that. Frank, thank you again. We'll

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01:03:57.159 --> 01:03:59.639
<v Speaker 1>definitely do this again in the future. Today, I want

1126
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:02.840
<v Speaker 1>to walk Brandon Barnett. He's an artist with a career

1127
01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:07.079
<v Speaker 1>spanning over twenty five years. He recently launched a marketing

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01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:10.639
<v Speaker 1>firm and he is currently creating amazing works of art

1129
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:14.639
<v Speaker 1>that can be seen at Soldier Media, on Instagram, Twitter,

1130
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and TikTok. As a child, he was part of the

1131
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Gate and Pace Gifted programs. Today is here to share

1132
01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:26.880
<v Speaker 1>his experiences that he was subjected to through hidden special

1133
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:32.679
<v Speaker 1>access recruitment operations. Brandon, Welcome, how you doing.

1134
01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:35.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm great this morning. Thanks for having me on.

1135
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Chris, thanks so much for coming on. I really appreciate it.

1136
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:43.719
<v Speaker 1>You've got some very interesting testimony to share with us

1137
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:46.719
<v Speaker 1>today and doing the show, I've spoken with many that

1138
01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:50.199
<v Speaker 1>claim to have been part of some kind of CIA

1139
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:55.599
<v Speaker 1>or black op special access programs, everything from mind control

1140
01:04:55.719 --> 01:05:01.559
<v Speaker 1>experiments to even Assassin Creation secret space program I've never

1141
01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:05.400
<v Speaker 1>spoken with anyone who's been a part of these gifted

1142
01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:12.079
<v Speaker 1>programs that can actually recall some of the traumatic events

1143
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:15.239
<v Speaker 1>that they have been through. So I'm very much looking

1144
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:18.119
<v Speaker 1>forward to hearing your story and sharing this. This is

1145
01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:22.119
<v Speaker 1>a very important topic, especially if these kinds of things

1146
01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:26.079
<v Speaker 1>are still occurring. Before we get into this, this is

1147
01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:27.920
<v Speaker 1>your first time on. Just tell us a little bit

1148
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:29.639
<v Speaker 1>about yourself and your work.

1149
01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:36.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I've been a professional artist for twenty seven years.

1150
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:38.639
<v Speaker 3>I got an early start right out of high school.

1151
01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:42.199
<v Speaker 3>I pitched a product and the company in the pitch

1152
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:45.039
<v Speaker 3>meeting said, do you just want a job here? So

1153
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:47.480
<v Speaker 3>I've been in product development for a little over twenty

1154
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:49.519
<v Speaker 3>five years. It's been a passion of mine. I went

1155
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:53.920
<v Speaker 3>to art school for it. I had a marketing firm

1156
01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:56.480
<v Speaker 3>for ten years. Recently I just closed a couple of

1157
01:05:56.599 --> 01:05:59.679
<v Speaker 3>years ago. And I think that that actually ties into

1158
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:02.679
<v Speaker 3>my In fact, I think my whole career does. So

1159
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:06.199
<v Speaker 3>I started my career in the ex sports industry, and

1160
01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:08.800
<v Speaker 3>I think that's going to be relevant in our conversation.

1161
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:14.480
<v Speaker 3>And I would like to preface by saying that what's

1162
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:17.400
<v Speaker 3>going on here is something that's new to me. So

1163
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:20.719
<v Speaker 3>I am not somebody that made a claim that I

1164
01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:23.480
<v Speaker 3>was part of the gate programs. I do have receipts

1165
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:25.119
<v Speaker 3>for you, by the way, So we'll see some things

1166
01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:28.800
<v Speaker 3>in writing. I'm not on a speaking tour. I'm not

1167
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:32.119
<v Speaker 3>part of the UFO community. This is a genuine journey

1168
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:35.519
<v Speaker 3>for me that began when I saw Joe Rogan say

1169
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:39.679
<v Speaker 3>Gate Program on TV. I was like, what an Hey,

1170
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:42.119
<v Speaker 3>that was my school program. So this started for me

1171
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:46.039
<v Speaker 3>when him and Duncan Trussell did an episode together and

1172
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:48.559
<v Speaker 3>talked about the Gate Program, and I started realizing my

1173
01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:51.079
<v Speaker 3>career tied into it. So I'm hoping you and I

1174
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:54.519
<v Speaker 3>have a very eye opening conversation here and I might

1175
01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:58.599
<v Speaker 3>get some good feedback from you, some additional information that

1176
01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:01.719
<v Speaker 3>you would already have from people spoken to in the community.

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01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:04.400
<v Speaker 3>And I'm hoping that I get some answers today right on.

1178
01:07:04.599 --> 01:07:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Man, Well, like I said, looking forward to getting into this.

1179
01:07:08.679 --> 01:07:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Tell us as far as you know, how did this

1180
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:11.920
<v Speaker 1>all start for you?

1181
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:17.440
<v Speaker 3>So I have kind of an interesting life path, and

1182
01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:20.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that like I'm cool. I've had to

1183
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:23.760
<v Speaker 3>sort of analyze it under a microscope lately. So where

1184
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:28.000
<v Speaker 3>this began would probably be Alaska. It ties into my

1185
01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:33.239
<v Speaker 3>story that I was born in Fairbanks in nineteen seventy nine,

1186
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:38.559
<v Speaker 3>pardon me, during a total eclipse, and so you can

1187
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:41.639
<v Speaker 3>look that up, the nineteen seventy nine solar eclipse. It's

1188
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:45.800
<v Speaker 3>well documented. It just happened again in twenty seventeen. And

1189
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:49.760
<v Speaker 3>the reason I bring that up is it turns out

1190
01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:54.079
<v Speaker 3>that part of this gate program began out of Alaska

1191
01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:58.639
<v Speaker 3>in the seventies. For me, it began in kindergarten. So

1192
01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:01.599
<v Speaker 3>when I said interesting life story, I hope it's not

1193
01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:04.159
<v Speaker 3>too tragic for people to be interested in. But part

1194
01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:06.119
<v Speaker 3>of my story is that my mom and dad met

1195
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:09.280
<v Speaker 3>on the Alaska Pipeline. My mom's first husband was a

1196
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:12.599
<v Speaker 3>race car driver, so she knew how to drive trucks.

1197
01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:15.880
<v Speaker 3>She was up there making money on a CDL as

1198
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:18.319
<v Speaker 3>a truck driver, met my dad, who was a foreman,

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01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:22.720
<v Speaker 3>and I was born in Fairbanks. But the reason that

1200
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:25.359
<v Speaker 3>it matters is she left when I was one without

1201
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.359
<v Speaker 3>telling my dad. Moved to southern California into a bad

1202
01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:30.279
<v Speaker 3>neighborhood and said, if you want to see your son,

1203
01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:34.439
<v Speaker 3>you have to come here. So for me, I ended

1204
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:38.319
<v Speaker 3>up in a Montassori school. In kindergarten, it was called

1205
01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:40.840
<v Speaker 3>McKinley School, which is also relevant to the story in

1206
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:41.359
<v Speaker 3>my opinion.

1207
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:45.680
<v Speaker 1>For those that aren't familiar with some Montessori school.

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01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:50.960
<v Speaker 3>A Montassori school would be like a pre school in

1209
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:55.560
<v Speaker 3>kindergarten that maybe your parents pay for. Maybe he is

1210
01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:58.680
<v Speaker 3>just offered in an area. But it's to put it

1211
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:02.000
<v Speaker 3>to put it lightly, it's just sort of an upgraded experience.

1212
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:04.159
<v Speaker 3>They pay a little more attention to the kids. It's

1213
01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:08.760
<v Speaker 3>a little more interactive. We had maybe better classrooms, so

1214
01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:12.680
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like private school, I guess because the

1215
01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:16.319
<v Speaker 3>parents might pay. And so I was tested in kindergarten.

1216
01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I got transferred to a special room in kindergarten. I

1217
01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:23.279
<v Speaker 3>have the receipt for that. And they said that they

1218
01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:26.560
<v Speaker 3>were starting a new class in kindergarten, so they wanted

1219
01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:29.359
<v Speaker 3>me to be in this special classroom. And when I

1220
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:31.239
<v Speaker 3>was in it, I kept getting in trouble because I

1221
01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:33.760
<v Speaker 3>could read in kindergarten, and I kept reading a book

1222
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:37.439
<v Speaker 3>called Corduroy. It's about a teddy bear that loses his button.

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01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Now, they tested you before they put you into this

1224
01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:43.600
<v Speaker 1>special class.

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01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember being tested in preschool. I don't know

1226
01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:53.439
<v Speaker 3>if it's teacher observation based, but in kindergarten I was tested,

1227
01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:56.560
<v Speaker 3>and I actually still have the paperwork that says we'd

1228
01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:59.560
<v Speaker 3>like to offer the opportunity to place your student in

1229
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:03.840
<v Speaker 3>a spe program starting in first grade, and in southern

1230
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:08.119
<v Speaker 3>California that wasn't called Gate. Gate was once you got

1231
01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:11.199
<v Speaker 3>into fifth grade, I believe. So it started as the

1232
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:15.560
<v Speaker 3>TAP program TAP. And it's interesting because if you try

1233
01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:18.159
<v Speaker 3>to look that up now, that's the same acronym for

1234
01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:21.439
<v Speaker 3>school financing. So the program's kind of buried. But I

1235
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:23.560
<v Speaker 3>have all my paperwork, believe it or not, from when

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<v Speaker 3>I was in school. So it started as TAP. I

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<v Speaker 3>was in TAP, first, second, third, fourth grade out of

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01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:34.119
<v Speaker 3>school called Longfellow fifth grade. Still at Longfellow, it began

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01:10:34.199 --> 01:10:37.760
<v Speaker 3>as GATE program. And then I went to Hughes Middle School,

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01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:41.640
<v Speaker 3>which is in Long Beach, also connected to Longfellow Elementary.

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01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.159
<v Speaker 3>We had an advanced program there it was GATE. And

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<v Speaker 3>then when we went on to high school, I went

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01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:49.960
<v Speaker 3>to Long Beach Poly and I did two more years

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01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:53.720
<v Speaker 3>in what would be this GATE program through my sophomore year.

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01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:55.840
<v Speaker 3>And then because of the program, because of how we

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01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:59.680
<v Speaker 3>accrued credits, we were allowed to start taking AP courses

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01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:04.119
<v Speaker 3>for college our junior and definitely senior year. So it

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01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:07.680
<v Speaker 3>started for me literally in kindergarten, my first year in

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01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:09.600
<v Speaker 3>the program, was first grade and I was in it

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01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:11.119
<v Speaker 3>for ten consecutives.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, on the surface, these programs are just supposed to

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01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:20.159
<v Speaker 1>be for children with advanced learning abilities cognitive abilities, and

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01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:23.800
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to give them a leg up and certain

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01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:28.039
<v Speaker 1>opportunities on the surface, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean so GATE stands for Gifted and Talented Education.

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01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:34.680
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, we had bunsen burners when other kids weren't

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01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:38.439
<v Speaker 3>allowed to have that stuff. We had special classrooms. I

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01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:42.640
<v Speaker 3>would say the most prevalent place to see that functionally

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01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.800
<v Speaker 3>was in high school. I'm at Long Beach Poly, which

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01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:49.279
<v Speaker 3>is in a pretty bad neighborhood, has four thousand students.

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01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:52.319
<v Speaker 3>I remember that there were only two hundred and twenty

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01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:54.760
<v Speaker 3>five of us in this program. We had our own buildings,

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01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:57.000
<v Speaker 3>so we weren't general pop if you will.

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01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Did you always think that there was something strange about

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01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:06.479
<v Speaker 1>the program or did you not really have any memories

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01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:11.279
<v Speaker 1>until later? How did you start besides seeing Joe Rogan

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01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:17.199
<v Speaker 1>mention this what really started to make you question things?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So when I closed my marketing firm, I took

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01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:26.359
<v Speaker 3>twenty five years experience in photoshop and illustrator and being

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01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:30.239
<v Speaker 3>a punk rock artist, and I took that energy, and

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01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:32.680
<v Speaker 3>I took this free time I had and I started

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01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:36.920
<v Speaker 3>making personal art for the first time since probably art school.

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01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:42.000
<v Speaker 3>When I did it, I started having an experience that

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01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:46.840
<v Speaker 3>was definitely unfamiliar and uncomfortable to me. And that experience

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01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:51.359
<v Speaker 3>was that I would go to make an ornate piece

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01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:54.079
<v Speaker 3>of art and I would make ten of them, and

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01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:57.199
<v Speaker 3>I would look at the clock and say, that's not possible.

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01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:00.640
<v Speaker 3>I've been an art director for half of my life.

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01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:05.479
<v Speaker 3>I've been very serious, dedicated digital artist for over half

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01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:07.800
<v Speaker 3>of my life, and I would look at this amount

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01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:10.720
<v Speaker 3>of work and say, this isn't possible. And I noticed

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01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:13.640
<v Speaker 3>it was kind of an out of body experience, and

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01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:18.319
<v Speaker 3>it continued down a path where that started getting more intense,

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01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:20.439
<v Speaker 3>to the point that when I sat on my computer,

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01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:22.720
<v Speaker 3>I would go to do things I wanted to do

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01:13:22.960 --> 01:13:27.439
<v Speaker 3>inside my Photoshop program, I illustrative program, trying to achieve

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01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:30.359
<v Speaker 3>this art, and it was almost like my computer or

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01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:33.439
<v Speaker 3>my mouse or a force was fighting me. And one

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01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:37.800
<v Speaker 3>day I jokingly said, do whatever you want. And I'm

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01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:40.199
<v Speaker 3>not a Ouiji board kind of guy, but I watched

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01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:42.800
<v Speaker 3>that mouse move around on the screen a little bit

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01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.800
<v Speaker 3>and it freaked me out. And a few months later,

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01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:50.000
<v Speaker 3>to directly answer your question, I had a vision, and

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01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:52.800
<v Speaker 3>I am not a person that has visions. I am

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01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:56.239
<v Speaker 3>not prone to such things. And to make it more meaningful,

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01:13:56.479 --> 01:13:59.680
<v Speaker 3>it was witnessed by a person watching it happen to

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01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:02.840
<v Speaker 3>me that I was describing everything I was seeing too.

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01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:06.479
<v Speaker 3>And after that I started analyzing my life under a

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01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:08.920
<v Speaker 3>microscope in a way I never had, and looking into

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01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:11.239
<v Speaker 3>my past for what might connect to this. And it

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01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:15.000
<v Speaker 3>was days later that the Gate program started popping up

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01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.840
<v Speaker 3>all over the Internet, and it did mildly trigger something

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01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:23.560
<v Speaker 3>in me, and I started having flashbacks of interesting times.

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01:14:24.520 --> 01:14:28.520
<v Speaker 1>To the best of your ability, tell us some of

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01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:30.159
<v Speaker 1>the memories that started coming up.

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01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:36.960
<v Speaker 3>I definitely will. Do you mind if we start with

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01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:39.319
<v Speaker 3>the list of wherever you want to go with it?

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01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:43.880
<v Speaker 3>I say it that way because see, this isn't something

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01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:47.640
<v Speaker 3>that I define myself by. I'm now fresh on this

1310
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:50.760
<v Speaker 3>trying to find out how much of Gate defines who

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01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:53.640
<v Speaker 3>I am, and I don't know it, and so I

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01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:56.039
<v Speaker 3>don't mean to lead the conversation, but what I'd like

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01:14:56.119 --> 01:15:01.199
<v Speaker 3>to start with that list of parameters for who you

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01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:04.079
<v Speaker 3>had to be to be in the program? Have you

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01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:04.920
<v Speaker 3>seen this online?

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01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I have not.

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01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so there was a specific list of parameters that

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01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:15.680
<v Speaker 3>somebody posted online that said, if you were in these programs,

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01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:18.880
<v Speaker 3>here's who you were. And then they were all posing

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01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:23.039
<v Speaker 3>the question how many of these fit you if you

1321
01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:27.479
<v Speaker 3>were in the program. Okay, so I have the actual list,

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01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:29.399
<v Speaker 3>and I could pull it up. Anybody can find it.

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01:15:29.399 --> 01:15:31.479
<v Speaker 3>It's prevalent out there. But here are the ones that

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01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:36.039
<v Speaker 3>hit me, and it's almost the entire list. Birth complication,

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01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:43.880
<v Speaker 3>traumatic childhood, physical abuse, ninety eight percentile in test scores.

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01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:48.720
<v Speaker 3>I actually have the receipts IQ over one thirty near

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01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:53.960
<v Speaker 3>death experience, particularly around water. And then here's the one

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01:15:53.960 --> 01:15:57.560
<v Speaker 3>that honestly changed my thinking. This is the one that

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01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.279
<v Speaker 3>just blew my mind. Is if you go back and

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01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:03.680
<v Speaker 3>read the documents for the doctor that formed the beginnings

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01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:07.479
<v Speaker 3>of the Gateway program for the government, this gate program,

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01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.239
<v Speaker 3>this guy actually mentions two things that freaked me out.

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01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:15.119
<v Speaker 3>In the seventies, he wrote that these kids were going

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01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:17.600
<v Speaker 3>to have to be on computers and they would be

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01:16:17.800 --> 01:16:20.920
<v Speaker 3>meme wizards. And while the first hand drawn meme was

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01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:23.560
<v Speaker 3>in like the nineteen twenties, they didn't hit computers till

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01:16:23.560 --> 01:16:26.319
<v Speaker 3>two thousand. This document was written in the seventies. By

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01:16:26.359 --> 01:16:29.279
<v Speaker 3>my understanding, and if I remember correctly, it's on CIA

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01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:31.399
<v Speaker 3>dot gov. I'll even try and give you a link

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01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:34.920
<v Speaker 3>or a copy of it. But if that was written

1341
01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:37.279
<v Speaker 3>back then and they knew that, that'd be one thing.

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01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:41.079
<v Speaker 3>But he mentions in the preliminary documentation for the program

1343
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:45.079
<v Speaker 3>that these people were actually tested the same group of

1344
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:48.000
<v Speaker 3>gifted they're looking for back in the sixties. So his

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01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:50.680
<v Speaker 3>program was standing on the shoulders of someone and he

1346
01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:54.000
<v Speaker 3>mentioned that they they from the sixties were monitored their

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01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:56.520
<v Speaker 3>whole lives. And here's what I was leading up to.

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01:16:57.039 --> 01:17:01.199
<v Speaker 3>Is on that list of parameters, it's said that the

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01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:06.279
<v Speaker 3>people in the program, the males, would at some point

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01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:12.600
<v Speaker 3>in their college years date a Jewish art student have

1351
01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:17.439
<v Speaker 3>a girlfriend that is a Jewish arts that It is

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01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:21.439
<v Speaker 3>pretty specific if you're writing this ahead of time. And

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01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:23.479
<v Speaker 3>when I first heard it, I went, oh, weird, that

1354
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:26.119
<v Speaker 3>doesn't fit the list, and then I realized I read

1355
01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:29.680
<v Speaker 3>it wrong. It doesn't say that. It doesn't say that

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01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:33.039
<v Speaker 3>she would be an art school with me. It doesn't

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01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:35.159
<v Speaker 3>say that she would be at a Jewish school and

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01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:38.039
<v Speaker 3>be an arts. It said that she would be Jewish

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01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:41.880
<v Speaker 3>and an art school student. The woman that I married

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01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:47.279
<v Speaker 3>my first wife. She was Jewish. I celebrated with her family,

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01:17:47.319 --> 01:17:51.359
<v Speaker 3>I learned the traditions, and she went to FIDM School

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01:17:51.399 --> 01:17:54.000
<v Speaker 3>of Art and Design out of LA It's the big one.

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01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:57.920
<v Speaker 3>What are the fucking chances? And Chris, I had to

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01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:00.600
<v Speaker 3>ask myself, bro in real life, I had to ask

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01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:02.119
<v Speaker 3>is my life scripted?

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01:18:03.359 --> 01:18:06.319
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned something interesting and I was speaking with

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01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:11.119
<v Speaker 1>a guest the other day. It wasn't about anything having

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01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:13.880
<v Speaker 1>to do with this, but he had mentioned that he

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01:18:14.399 --> 01:18:18.159
<v Speaker 1>was born in the call, which means he was born

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01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in the amniotic sac and now he has supposedly has

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01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:29.520
<v Speaker 1>strong psychic abilities and is able to channel in all

1372
01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:33.239
<v Speaker 1>these things. And there seems to be a direct link

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01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:39.039
<v Speaker 1>to childhood traumatic experiences and something. These people are looking

1374
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:43.119
<v Speaker 1>for something. Maybe it changes your perception, maybe it activates

1375
01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:47.720
<v Speaker 1>something differently in your mind. But they seem to have

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01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:51.600
<v Speaker 1>a strong interest in, like you were saying, people's near

1377
01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:56.239
<v Speaker 1>death experiences, traumatic births. It's very interesting.

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01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:01.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, so I did mean to deflect your question and

1379
01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:03.680
<v Speaker 3>let me come back to it. You asked me what

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01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:06.199
<v Speaker 3>I was remembering, and I had to preface with what

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01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:08.439
<v Speaker 3>I did, because that was the start of the journey

1382
01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:10.840
<v Speaker 3>of what I was remembering. I want to clarify for

1383
01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:13.439
<v Speaker 3>the audience that the Gate Program hasn't been a big

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01:19:13.479 --> 01:19:16.199
<v Speaker 3>deal to me this whole time. Whole time I thought

1385
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:18.800
<v Speaker 3>it was weird. I've got some weird receipts I keep

1386
01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:20.640
<v Speaker 3>talking about. I can't wait to do show and tell

1387
01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:24.359
<v Speaker 3>with you. But the reality is that this wasn't defining me.

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01:19:24.399 --> 01:19:26.960
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't something I thought about. And then all of

1389
01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:31.640
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, I started remembering things with great clarity that

1390
01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:34.439
<v Speaker 3>caused me to question. So let me go in order

1391
01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:38.720
<v Speaker 3>traumatic birth. It wasn't traumatic to me, obviously, I don't

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01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:41.439
<v Speaker 3>remember that part, but my dad always joked about an

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01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:44.319
<v Speaker 3>argument with the doctor because I was in there wrong

1394
01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:46.039
<v Speaker 3>and they had to pull me out with four steps,

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01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:49.399
<v Speaker 3>and he was arguing with the doctor about it if

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01:19:49.439 --> 01:19:52.840
<v Speaker 3>you look into it. Because I've done therapy several times

1397
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:56.319
<v Speaker 3>in my life, I currently am in therapy, and not

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01:19:56.439 --> 01:19:59.960
<v Speaker 3>because I'm I'm a broken person, but because on this

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01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:02.520
<v Speaker 3>mental health journey and remembering these things, I wanted some

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01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:06.000
<v Speaker 3>guidance with how to evaluate them. And apparently that stress

1401
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:09.720
<v Speaker 3>right at the moment of birth can actually change somebody.

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01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:13.199
<v Speaker 3>So when I was in third grade, I was already

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01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:15.760
<v Speaker 3>in these advanced classes, and there was a group of

1404
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:17.880
<v Speaker 3>cool kids and I was friends with them at school.

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01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:20.479
<v Speaker 3>But outside of school, I lived in a really poor

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01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:22.960
<v Speaker 3>neighborhood of Long Beach. The moms didn't like coming there.

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01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:25.800
<v Speaker 3>They didn't get along with my parents, so it was

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01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:28.880
<v Speaker 3>awkward for me. But I got to go to the

1409
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:31.000
<v Speaker 3>beach with these guys. They were very cool to me.

1410
01:20:31.439 --> 01:20:33.600
<v Speaker 3>We listened to some weird Al Yankovic because it was

1411
01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:36.720
<v Speaker 3>third grade and we're having a great day. But then

1412
01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:40.720
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't given fins or a leash or a boogie board.

1413
01:20:40.760 --> 01:20:45.199
<v Speaker 3>I was given a half a broken bodyboard with no exterior,

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01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:48.600
<v Speaker 3>so we're talking a piece of bodyboard shaped foam. I

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01:20:48.640 --> 01:20:51.199
<v Speaker 3>got caught in a riptide and sucked so far away

1416
01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:54.399
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know which direction to walk back. I was panicked.

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01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:56.560
<v Speaker 3>I was a little kid. I had no wherewithal. I'm

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01:20:56.600 --> 01:20:59.319
<v Speaker 3>just panicked all the way through the experience, and then

1419
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:01.119
<v Speaker 3>I got yelled at by a mom who was like,

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01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:04.199
<v Speaker 3>where did you go? It was traumatic to me at

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01:21:04.199 --> 01:21:09.000
<v Speaker 3>the time. Here's where it's interesting, because I'm not a

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01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:12.000
<v Speaker 3>person that just wants to air out my traumas online.

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01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:15.399
<v Speaker 3>That's not part of my journey. But it said in

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01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:19.319
<v Speaker 3>that documentation who they were looking for, what they wanted

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01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:21.319
<v Speaker 3>to find in these people, and I'll share that in

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01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:24.960
<v Speaker 3>a moment, But it specifically said that it became more

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01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:28.960
<v Speaker 3>prevalent through trauma because when the children were abused, when

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01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:31.560
<v Speaker 3>they were panicked, when they were cornered. And I've read

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01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:33.960
<v Speaker 3>this document several times. It says if they have the

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01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:40.960
<v Speaker 3>ability to do something, it will often manifest out of necessity.

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01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I didn't have anything like that happened to me when

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01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:45.640
<v Speaker 3>I was a little kid. But what I did have

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01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:50.760
<v Speaker 3>is somebody break into my parents' room at my first

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01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:53.359
<v Speaker 3>house when I was five years old. I witnessed the

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01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:56.960
<v Speaker 3>entire thing. This person made eye contact with me. The

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01:21:57.039 --> 01:22:00.479
<v Speaker 3>crazy part is they only went in my bedroom. Then

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01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:03.079
<v Speaker 3>they went back out the window that they came in,

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01:22:03.239 --> 01:22:06.880
<v Speaker 3>and they didn't steal anything. Police came, there was a report.

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01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this was a real life incident, not a dream.

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01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:12.159
<v Speaker 3>My family talked about it. That continued throughout my life,

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01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:16.479
<v Speaker 3>and when I started remembering things, I realized there was

1442
01:22:16.520 --> 01:22:19.600
<v Speaker 3>a second time, and then a third that maybe the

1443
01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:22.640
<v Speaker 3>same looking gentleman broke into where I was living. And

1444
01:22:22.680 --> 01:22:26.159
<v Speaker 3>these are three separate domiciles.

1445
01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:26.479
<v Speaker 2>No shit.

1446
01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:31.039
<v Speaker 3>So I had never connected these things in my head because,

1447
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:34.000
<v Speaker 3>let's be honest, life is fast paced. We got things

1448
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:35.319
<v Speaker 3>to do. I was running a market.

1449
01:22:36.079 --> 01:22:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember I'd say eighty percent of my childhood.

1450
01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't tell if it's trauma or what. I think.

1451
01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:46.039
<v Speaker 1>I had a pretty decent childhood. But even I can't

1452
01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:48.279
<v Speaker 1>remember shit. So I get it. Man, it's tough to

1453
01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:49.119
<v Speaker 1>recall a lot of that.

1454
01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, so I have this really meaningful career. I've been

1455
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:58.840
<v Speaker 3>very successful at it. And then in looking at this

1456
01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:02.119
<v Speaker 3>whole situation, I have to look at, well, where did

1457
01:23:02.119 --> 01:23:05.039
<v Speaker 3>my group of friends go? Where did my stand by

1458
01:23:05.119 --> 01:23:08.000
<v Speaker 3>me pals go? After high school? Right? We all got

1459
01:23:08.039 --> 01:23:11.399
<v Speaker 3>off the school bus together. We spent our whole childhoods together.

1460
01:23:11.439 --> 01:23:13.840
<v Speaker 3>We grew up on the block together. But as adults

1461
01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:16.880
<v Speaker 3>you fall out of touch. I'm forty five. Things happened.

1462
01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:19.279
<v Speaker 3>I was an asshole in my twenties. People don't talk,

1463
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:23.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, life, So I look at where did these

1464
01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:28.279
<v Speaker 3>people go? As I start digging into this, and I

1465
01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:32.760
<v Speaker 3>was a skateboard rat, I was a surfer. I got

1466
01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:35.479
<v Speaker 3>off the school bus with five guys and everybody but

1467
01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:37.199
<v Speaker 3>me went high end military.

1468
01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Is there anyone in your family or even distant family

1469
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:50.319
<v Speaker 1>members that maybe higher level military or involved with the

1470
01:23:50.359 --> 01:23:51.479
<v Speaker 1>military in some way.

1471
01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:57.359
<v Speaker 3>My sister's first husband, who I don't remember, he was

1472
01:23:57.399 --> 01:24:00.119
<v Speaker 3>one of those guys with a lot of colorful boy

1473
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:04.279
<v Speaker 3>scout patches on his jacket. You know, I don't know

1474
01:24:04.399 --> 01:24:06.840
<v Speaker 3>exactly what he did. That would be one of my

1475
01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:10.279
<v Speaker 3>only connections to it right on. But here's where it

1476
01:24:10.279 --> 01:24:13.119
<v Speaker 3>gets interesting. So I get off a bus in skate

1477
01:24:13.159 --> 01:24:15.880
<v Speaker 3>clothes with a ratty backpack, listening to nine inch nails

1478
01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:18.680
<v Speaker 3>like everybody else. That's sixteen. But let me describe to

1479
01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:20.520
<v Speaker 3>you that the guys I hung out with built our

1480
01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:24.159
<v Speaker 3>seacars with me, skateboarded with me. We rode bikes together,

1481
01:24:24.399 --> 01:24:27.079
<v Speaker 3>We shot fireworks at each other, and swam in a pool.

1482
01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:31.039
<v Speaker 3>We surfed together. These were normal people. One of them

1483
01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:35.359
<v Speaker 3>is currently working at West Point after having attended West Point.

1484
01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:40.119
<v Speaker 3>One of them hosted the UFC with Joe Rogan and

1485
01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:45.560
<v Speaker 3>traveled the world learning every martial arts style. One of

1486
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:50.000
<v Speaker 3>them had a one fifty five IQ. One of these

1487
01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:54.279
<v Speaker 3>guys is currently in Czech Republic doing something I can't

1488
01:24:54.319 --> 01:24:56.800
<v Speaker 3>know about. One of the guys that I grew up

1489
01:24:56.840 --> 01:24:59.800
<v Speaker 3>with from my block. He had a job right out

1490
01:24:59.840 --> 01:25:02.520
<v Speaker 3>of high school making sixty grand a year when minimum

1491
01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:04.960
<v Speaker 3>wage was like five seventy five or seven bucks, and

1492
01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:09.000
<v Speaker 3>he couldn't talk about it. He had clearance. What are

1493
01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:11.199
<v Speaker 3>the chances that I just go to high school and

1494
01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:13.359
<v Speaker 3>that's the five guys I hang out with because it

1495
01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:15.520
<v Speaker 3>doesn't stop there. I had a roommate that was one

1496
01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:17.640
<v Speaker 3>of those guys got off the bus with me. He

1497
01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:21.039
<v Speaker 3>ended up being a door kicking operator. And then because

1498
01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:23.600
<v Speaker 3>you brought up the military connection, I'll keep going because

1499
01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:26.159
<v Speaker 3>once I had to look backwards in my life. Here's

1500
01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:29.800
<v Speaker 3>what I realized. The only girl I dated in college,

1501
01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:31.920
<v Speaker 3>her dad was so high up in the military. He

1502
01:25:31.960 --> 01:25:34.720
<v Speaker 3>had a sword hanging over his fireplace with a display

1503
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:37.359
<v Speaker 3>of his awards. He was some kind of general. We dated.

1504
01:25:37.479 --> 01:25:42.079
<v Speaker 3>That was the only girl I dated in college. When

1505
01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:46.800
<v Speaker 3>I turned forty and decided that pharmaceuticals were poisoning everybody,

1506
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:51.319
<v Speaker 3>was the first time I started smoking pot. It turned

1507
01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:53.760
<v Speaker 3>out the first guy I was buying weed from was

1508
01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:57.560
<v Speaker 3>a door kicking operator. The girl that I've been dating

1509
01:25:57.600 --> 01:26:00.800
<v Speaker 3>for five years, both her parents were in the CIA

1510
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:04.159
<v Speaker 3>and they just moved here, and the guy that got

1511
01:26:04.159 --> 01:26:08.640
<v Speaker 3>me into church, who was my AA sponsor and mentor,

1512
01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:13.800
<v Speaker 3>was also an operator. I had to ask a counselor

1513
01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:17.920
<v Speaker 3>what percentage of the military goes to West Point teaches it?

1514
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:21.920
<v Speaker 3>West Point actually kicks doors. She said maybe twenty. And

1515
01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:24.880
<v Speaker 3>I said, out of my limited world, since I'm an introvert,

1516
01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:28.159
<v Speaker 3>what are the chances that many military and CIA are

1517
01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:32.199
<v Speaker 3>around me? And she goes, well, mathematically like zero.

1518
01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wow.

1519
01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:38.119
<v Speaker 3>So I'm not saying that any of those people are spooky.

1520
01:26:38.239 --> 01:26:40.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying any of those people were in on

1521
01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:42.840
<v Speaker 3>some inside joke. But I think when we finished talking,

1522
01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:46.399
<v Speaker 3>you'll see why I, at least as a reasoning adult,

1523
01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:48.079
<v Speaker 3>had to question it a little bit.

1524
01:26:48.840 --> 01:26:54.319
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of these things that people like

1525
01:26:54.359 --> 01:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>yourself who have been involved with a lot of these programs,

1526
01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:05.479
<v Speaker 1>tend to have people placed in their lives to maybe handlers.

1527
01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe these people aren't even aware of what they're doing,

1528
01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:13.880
<v Speaker 1>but for some reason or another, they become close in

1529
01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>your lives and it in some ways have an effect

1530
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>on you. And it's very synchronistic and very strange at

1531
01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>times to see that. Going back to the actual programs,

1532
01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>were you able to recall memories from anything that was

1533
01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>occurring there.

1534
01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:39.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely. One of the things that I saw in

1535
01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:41.720
<v Speaker 3>the videos I watched about the Gate program that I

1536
01:27:41.800 --> 01:27:44.640
<v Speaker 3>considered minor at the time, but I'm reconsidering, is that

1537
01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:47.359
<v Speaker 3>there were at least a couple of times in the

1538
01:27:47.439 --> 01:27:51.520
<v Speaker 3>program that we were given a big cup of pink flooride.

1539
01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:54.359
<v Speaker 3>And the reason I find that interesting is that we

1540
01:27:54.479 --> 01:27:58.000
<v Speaker 3>now know, through people like Grand Hancock and science, that

1541
01:27:59.279 --> 01:28:03.000
<v Speaker 3>if you consume the right type of fluoride, it calcifies

1542
01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:07.279
<v Speaker 3>the pineal gland, and the pineal gland has to do

1543
01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:11.520
<v Speaker 3>with the way we connect out of body. Astral projections

1544
01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:14.119
<v Speaker 3>been looked at in scientific studies, and of course, going

1545
01:28:14.159 --> 01:28:16.800
<v Speaker 3>back to the Egyptians, they believe that that was probably

1546
01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:19.960
<v Speaker 3>the eye of Horus and it contains DMT and has

1547
01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:24.640
<v Speaker 3>to do with our innate functionality with astral projection. I'll

1548
01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:26.560
<v Speaker 3>give you some more memories, but let me let me

1549
01:28:26.640 --> 01:28:29.119
<v Speaker 3>just preface all of these, because I think it ties

1550
01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:31.800
<v Speaker 3>into the memories and the military connection that in the

1551
01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:35.479
<v Speaker 3>documentation I've read, it said that what they were looking

1552
01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:39.479
<v Speaker 3>for was kids that had the inate ability to astral

1553
01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:45.600
<v Speaker 3>project because the technology that they had encountered didn't have

1554
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:49.319
<v Speaker 3>controls and buttons and dials like F sixteens, and it

1555
01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:53.079
<v Speaker 3>had to be operated telepathically, if you will, like through

1556
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:56.800
<v Speaker 3>an astral projection, and military guys weren't trained for that.

1557
01:28:56.920 --> 01:28:59.520
<v Speaker 3>So they took F sixteen and F thirty five pilots,

1558
01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:02.279
<v Speaker 3>whatever the case was then, and when they put these

1559
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:04.720
<v Speaker 3>guys in there. This is their documents, not my opinion.

1560
01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:07.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not Alex Jones, even though I love the guy.

1561
01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:12.920
<v Speaker 3>They were looking for people whose minds could interact with

1562
01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:15.560
<v Speaker 3>it and not have the outcome the pilots had. They

1563
01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:19.680
<v Speaker 3>were rigid thinking, robotic people flying these jets, and it

1564
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:22.720
<v Speaker 3>caused them mental distress to a level they couldn't handle

1565
01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:28.399
<v Speaker 3>piloting this maybe otherworldly, maybe UFO, maybe advanced technology, And

1566
01:29:28.479 --> 01:29:31.439
<v Speaker 3>it sounds to me like it's either recovered technology or

1567
01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:34.560
<v Speaker 3>technology we bartered for, because why would we build something

1568
01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:39.199
<v Speaker 3>that we couldn't pilot. So they were looking for people

1569
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:43.159
<v Speaker 3>that had these abilities. Why give those people fluoride? Well,

1570
01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:45.840
<v Speaker 3>maybe it ties into another memory. Maybe they had already

1571
01:29:45.880 --> 01:29:49.760
<v Speaker 3>identified who could potentially pilot these things, who potentially had

1572
01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:53.720
<v Speaker 3>telekinetic abilities, and maybe they wanted everybody else to not

1573
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.199
<v Speaker 3>be competition, not be a problem and not figure it

1574
01:29:56.199 --> 01:29:59.079
<v Speaker 3>out later. If we know floride is so bad that

1575
01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:02.159
<v Speaker 3>right now today they're making it illegal and water supplies.

1576
01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:05.000
<v Speaker 3>The first time it was used in water supplies was

1577
01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:08.520
<v Speaker 3>in Nazi camps. We know it pacifies people. Why give

1578
01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:10.880
<v Speaker 3>it to the bright kids, you're testing? Well. One of

1579
01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:13.199
<v Speaker 3>the memories, and I even saw pictures of it online,

1580
01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:17.000
<v Speaker 3>is they used to make us listen in sound labs,

1581
01:30:17.359 --> 01:30:21.920
<v Speaker 3>off site, maybe even off campus sound labs, and it

1582
01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:25.880
<v Speaker 3>was audio testing. It was specific tapes, It had specific

1583
01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:28.880
<v Speaker 3>images on the cases to these big eight track tapes.

1584
01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:31.720
<v Speaker 3>They had us listen for tones, and people that weren't

1585
01:30:31.720 --> 01:30:35.239
<v Speaker 3>our teachers would have us identify what tones we could hear,

1586
01:30:35.760 --> 01:30:39.479
<v Speaker 3>and then they played these repetitious things to us. And

1587
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:42.000
<v Speaker 3>to this day, I hear one of those tones. I

1588
01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:44.319
<v Speaker 3>heard it yesterday. I've heard it my whole life.

1589
01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Did they tell you that it was fluoride that they

1590
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>were giving.

1591
01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:52.000
<v Speaker 3>You, Yeah, yeah, it was under the guys. Or it

1592
01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:54.800
<v Speaker 3>could have literally just been let's educate you on how

1593
01:30:54.800 --> 01:30:57.199
<v Speaker 3>to take care of your teeth. Somebody came in and

1594
01:30:57.239 --> 01:30:59.880
<v Speaker 3>gave out samples. You got a free toothbrush that was

1595
01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:03.640
<v Speaker 3>a dinosaur. But they started doing this in my kindergarten class.

1596
01:31:03.840 --> 01:31:06.720
<v Speaker 3>We did in first grade, second grade, third grade, I believe,

1597
01:31:06.760 --> 01:31:09.199
<v Speaker 3>even fourth How many years does it take to learn

1598
01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:11.600
<v Speaker 3>to brush your teeth? I don't know. But we had

1599
01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:15.159
<v Speaker 3>to take this pink drink. And if you look at

1600
01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:18.239
<v Speaker 3>what people have posted online, the folks claiming to remember

1601
01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:21.159
<v Speaker 3>things from date, they keep talking about pink drink and

1602
01:31:21.199 --> 01:31:22.159
<v Speaker 3>I remember it.

1603
01:31:22.199 --> 01:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Could it be possible that it may have been some

1604
01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:29.399
<v Speaker 1>other substance, maybe an ntheogen, or maybe some of it

1605
01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:34.039
<v Speaker 1>was fluoride, some of it a placebo, just to see

1606
01:31:34.039 --> 01:31:36.399
<v Speaker 1>the effects that it may be. I don't know.

1607
01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, let's go deep on it. Pardon me. I never

1608
01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:45.520
<v Speaker 3>suggested to any of my friends that I was ever

1609
01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:48.359
<v Speaker 3>in a CIA program. I never thought of it that way.

1610
01:31:49.279 --> 01:31:53.000
<v Speaker 3>But when I read the documentation, it's pretty clear that

1611
01:31:53.159 --> 01:31:58.000
<v Speaker 3>under the umbrella of mk Ultra, for national security reasons,

1612
01:31:58.039 --> 01:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>they wanted to manage intelligence assets, and they considered high intellect,

1613
01:32:03.560 --> 01:32:08.359
<v Speaker 3>high test result driven people to be part of national security.

1614
01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:17.239
<v Speaker 3>So these programs were started to identify those folks. If

1615
01:32:17.279 --> 01:32:19.600
<v Speaker 3>we could talk for a second about a memory, I

1616
01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:23.880
<v Speaker 3>think it ties it all together. Yeah, so let's go

1617
01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>deep for a minute, because I think this explains the drink.

1618
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:30.840
<v Speaker 3>In the documentation I've read recently, it connects to this

1619
01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:34.359
<v Speaker 3>memory because it says in MK ultra, but it says

1620
01:32:34.399 --> 01:32:37.760
<v Speaker 3>specifically in this program some of the kids could be

1621
01:32:37.800 --> 01:32:40.880
<v Speaker 3>exposed to, say LSD. It lists other things, and I'm

1622
01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:44.079
<v Speaker 3>sure they have other things. But we know factually now

1623
01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:48.119
<v Speaker 3>through Freedom of Information Act, Congress has discussed MK ultra

1624
01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:50.479
<v Speaker 3>was of course real. No one disputes it, and they

1625
01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:54.960
<v Speaker 3>did test using LSD. One of my strongest memories in life.

1626
01:32:55.000 --> 01:32:57.600
<v Speaker 3>And to answer your question, from those times, I have

1627
01:32:57.640 --> 01:33:01.279
<v Speaker 3>a repeating dream, and you have a wonder if they

1628
01:33:01.279 --> 01:33:07.079
<v Speaker 3>couldn't give kids at school a delay reaction substance that

1629
01:33:07.199 --> 01:33:10.439
<v Speaker 3>affects you in your sleep, that affects you later that night.

1630
01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:13.199
<v Speaker 3>And who would believe a kid kids see weird things,

1631
01:33:13.239 --> 01:33:16.239
<v Speaker 3>talk to imaginary friends, They have weird dreams. So you

1632
01:33:16.279 --> 01:33:18.960
<v Speaker 3>go to sleep, you wake up screaming, your parents tell

1633
01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:23.680
<v Speaker 3>you to go back to bed. So the actual memory

1634
01:33:23.720 --> 01:33:27.359
<v Speaker 3>that I have is the only repeating dream that I've

1635
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:30.079
<v Speaker 3>ever had in my life. And I'm literally starting to

1636
01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:34.920
<v Speaker 3>question whether it was a dream. So that first house

1637
01:33:34.920 --> 01:33:37.319
<v Speaker 3>where someone broke in, I'm laying in my bed. It's

1638
01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:42.520
<v Speaker 3>first grade. All of a sudden, I'm called outside. I

1639
01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:45.800
<v Speaker 3>go out my front door. I turn left and I

1640
01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:48.439
<v Speaker 3>look over my neighbor's house and the first thing I

1641
01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:52.159
<v Speaker 3>noticed is it's completely hush. There's no people, there's no winds,

1642
01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:55.439
<v Speaker 3>nothing's moving, there's not a cat walking by. It's still,

1643
01:33:56.399 --> 01:33:58.840
<v Speaker 3>and there's like an artificial light source above me. And

1644
01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:01.560
<v Speaker 3>then I look across my name's roof and I see

1645
01:34:01.560 --> 01:34:05.079
<v Speaker 3>what I could only call a UFO, A pretty clear,

1646
01:34:05.199 --> 01:34:08.600
<v Speaker 3>classic kind of UFO, a big one. The next thing

1647
01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm I'm on it. Now. I'm not a

1648
01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:14.600
<v Speaker 3>person that goes around claiming to be abducted. This is

1649
01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:17.319
<v Speaker 3>something I've been reanalyzing now. But this is the only

1650
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:19.199
<v Speaker 3>repeating dream I've ever had in my life. And I

1651
01:34:19.239 --> 01:34:21.960
<v Speaker 3>had it a lot of times, and it was something

1652
01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>I told my girlfriend about. I just didn't think about

1653
01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:29.199
<v Speaker 3>it in this paradigm. But so now I'm on this

1654
01:34:29.319 --> 01:34:31.600
<v Speaker 3>ship and I'm in a big room and there are

1655
01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:36.159
<v Speaker 3>three frogs wearing what I would call robes, and they

1656
01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:41.000
<v Speaker 3>hand me about a foot tall brass ring with three

1657
01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:41.640
<v Speaker 3>tubes on.

1658
01:34:41.760 --> 01:34:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Did you just say frogs in robes?

1659
01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Now?

1660
01:34:45.359 --> 01:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>This is crazy, dude. I don't know if you've ever

1661
01:34:48.039 --> 01:34:53.720
<v Speaker 1>heard my story about my first contact experience through meditation, No, sir,

1662
01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I hear it. Well. It was the first time that

1663
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I had ever experienced anything that you might consider paranormal

1664
01:35:02.439 --> 01:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>at all, meditative experience. It's a long story, so I

1665
01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:09.840
<v Speaker 1>make it short. I made contact with something started speaking

1666
01:35:10.119 --> 01:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>through my mind, and I now have an understanding that

1667
01:35:14.720 --> 01:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>it's possibly my higher self that was speaking to me.

1668
01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>But what happened was this experience led to this career. Actually,

1669
01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>it really changed my whole life. It was a couple

1670
01:35:27.279 --> 01:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>hour conversation with this thing, and it really was trying

1671
01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>to get the message out that I needed to heal

1672
01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>childhood trauma, quit my job that was toxic, and start

1673
01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:45.119
<v Speaker 1>this career. And it was very strange that this voice

1674
01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>would have so much interest. But I have a better

1675
01:35:48.119 --> 01:35:52.439
<v Speaker 1>understanding of now what it is. I believe. But the

1676
01:35:52.479 --> 01:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>next day, I or it was two days later, I

1677
01:35:55.680 --> 01:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted to have this experience again because I didn't really

1678
01:36:01.079 --> 01:36:04.840
<v Speaker 1>totally believe it. I thought, maybe what an acid flashback.

1679
01:36:04.880 --> 01:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm going crazy, I don't know. So I went and

1680
01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I tried the meditation again. This time, something intuitively told

1681
01:36:13.920 --> 01:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>me to get in the water. I do and this

1682
01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:23.159
<v Speaker 1>experience was so much more powerful. During the conversation with

1683
01:36:23.319 --> 01:36:27.720
<v Speaker 1>this voice, something kind of took over my perception and

1684
01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:31.199
<v Speaker 1>when I opened my eyes, I could still see my

1685
01:36:31.279 --> 01:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>bathroom everything, but when I closed my eyes, I was

1686
01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:37.119
<v Speaker 1>on a craft. And then these beings started to appear

1687
01:36:38.159 --> 01:36:42.199
<v Speaker 1>and they were all wearing robes. They were kind of translucent.

1688
01:36:42.439 --> 01:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>They looked you could almost see through these beings. And

1689
01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>there were about two or three of them that were

1690
01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:55.119
<v Speaker 1>frogs in fucking robes, dude, and they spoke to me

1691
01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:59.199
<v Speaker 1>and had a conversation. But when you said that, I

1692
01:36:59.279 --> 01:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>was like, why that's the That's the only other time

1693
01:37:02.520 --> 01:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I've heard someone say they met a frog entity in

1694
01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>a robe. So that's pretty crazy, man.

1695
01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:14.479
<v Speaker 3>This while see, this is why I'm doing this. This

1696
01:37:14.640 --> 01:37:17.279
<v Speaker 3>wasn't about me. I'm I'm not chasing any kind of

1697
01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:21.239
<v Speaker 3>clout online. I have become a genuine seeker in my life.

1698
01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:25.079
<v Speaker 3>But when this occurred, I hit the turbo button. I'm

1699
01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:26.960
<v Speaker 3>looking hard. So thank you for sharing that.

1700
01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Really? Sure?

1701
01:37:29.199 --> 01:37:34.159
<v Speaker 1>So continue the frogs communicating or what happened with this experience?

1702
01:37:36.279 --> 01:37:41.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they don't speak in words. That's how it

1703
01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:42.359
<v Speaker 3>was in my Mind's.

1704
01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Like almost seamless communication. Before you could finish, the answer

1705
01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>would come in.

1706
01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:54.800
<v Speaker 3>Just another track in the audio in your mind, and

1707
01:37:54.960 --> 01:37:57.399
<v Speaker 3>you're almost remembering it because it was just said, and

1708
01:37:57.439 --> 01:37:59.640
<v Speaker 3>you're so startled it was said in your mind. You're

1709
01:37:59.640 --> 01:38:03.199
<v Speaker 3>almost remembering what they said, not hearing it. The hairs

1710
01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:05.119
<v Speaker 3>on the back of your neck, if they can occur

1711
01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:09.119
<v Speaker 3>in this situation. They're standing up, and so these things

1712
01:38:09.159 --> 01:38:12.239
<v Speaker 3>don't hand me anything. I'm just suddenly holding a foot

1713
01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:15.520
<v Speaker 3>tall brass ring three cubes on it. And I've looked

1714
01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:20.840
<v Speaker 3>my whole life at what these symbols all over these cubes.

1715
01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:23.760
<v Speaker 3>They were covered in symbols. What are these I've looked

1716
01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:26.600
<v Speaker 3>my whole life because it was such a stark dream.

1717
01:38:26.720 --> 01:38:29.039
<v Speaker 3>It was so vivid to me. I could see it

1718
01:38:29.079 --> 01:38:31.199
<v Speaker 3>covered in symbols. And at one point in my life

1719
01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:35.159
<v Speaker 3>I saw the movie Super eight by Spielberg, and I

1720
01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:38.920
<v Speaker 3>nudged my girlfriend at the time and said, oh, that's

1721
01:38:38.960 --> 01:38:41.560
<v Speaker 3>like those cubes from my dream. You know, they had

1722
01:38:41.600 --> 01:38:43.960
<v Speaker 3>a train car full of alien cubes. I went, yeah,

1723
01:38:43.960 --> 01:38:46.600
<v Speaker 3>that's like the ones from my dream. So these frogs

1724
01:38:46.680 --> 01:38:50.119
<v Speaker 3>in rubes make this ring appear in my hand, and

1725
01:38:50.159 --> 01:38:53.359
<v Speaker 3>it has three of these cubes on it, and they

1726
01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:58.560
<v Speaker 3>say in my mind, don't touch them, or you'll be

1727
01:38:58.840 --> 01:39:02.239
<v Speaker 3>like them. And what they were saying, and I can

1728
01:39:02.239 --> 01:39:05.159
<v Speaker 3>only tell you I got this without hearing anything, was

1729
01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:08.359
<v Speaker 3>move the cubes. Make them move on the ring. But

1730
01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:11.039
<v Speaker 3>like you can't use your hands, They're saying, don't touch

1731
01:39:11.119 --> 01:39:14.119
<v Speaker 3>them to move them, or you'll be like them. And

1732
01:39:14.159 --> 01:39:17.119
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea who them is, but I panic

1733
01:39:17.359 --> 01:39:19.720
<v Speaker 3>and I turn my hand and one of the cubes

1734
01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:22.840
<v Speaker 3>just wobble, swings and bumps my hand. The next thing,

1735
01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:25.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm off that ship. I'm in a lawn chair. I

1736
01:39:25.319 --> 01:39:28.119
<v Speaker 3>don't known in my front yard and where that cube

1737
01:39:28.119 --> 01:39:31.720
<v Speaker 3>bumped me. My arm is increasingly turning green like Neo

1738
01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:34.479
<v Speaker 3>and the matrix, but instead of silver, it's turning green

1739
01:39:34.520 --> 01:39:36.199
<v Speaker 3>and running up my arm. And then I wake up

1740
01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:40.479
<v Speaker 3>in my bed. Wow, Now, was I had that dream

1741
01:39:41.039 --> 01:39:41.760
<v Speaker 3>fifty times?

1742
01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Was there anything specifically that you could point out that's

1743
01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:51.760
<v Speaker 1>different about this dream than other dreams? Many people will

1744
01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>have these experience will say that it wasn't necessarily dream like,

1745
01:39:56.359 --> 01:39:59.760
<v Speaker 1>there was some other sense of reality to it.

1746
01:40:03.720 --> 01:40:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I have looked heavily into the Gateway program, and for

1747
01:40:07.680 --> 01:40:13.560
<v Speaker 3>clarification's sake, that's through the Monroe Institute that fueled the

1748
01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:17.760
<v Speaker 3>CIA Gateway program. We can talk about that in a

1749
01:40:17.800 --> 01:40:19.439
<v Speaker 3>moment if you want, but this is stuff people can

1750
01:40:19.479 --> 01:40:21.079
<v Speaker 3>look up so they don't have to believe me. And

1751
01:40:21.119 --> 01:40:23.039
<v Speaker 3>I like being in that position when we're trying to

1752
01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:26.319
<v Speaker 3>divulge truth, right. And so the Gateway process had to

1753
01:40:26.319 --> 01:40:29.880
<v Speaker 3>do with astral projection, and I now believe that what

1754
01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:33.119
<v Speaker 3>was being done was I wasn't abducted. I was never

1755
01:40:33.159 --> 01:40:37.479
<v Speaker 3>on a spaceship. This was a construct. This was an

1756
01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:41.600
<v Speaker 3>injected construct. I think that I was forced to astral

1757
01:40:41.640 --> 01:40:45.880
<v Speaker 3>project and that is the location I was taken to.

1758
01:40:46.800 --> 01:40:49.640
<v Speaker 3>But I wasn't taken anywhere. My physical body never went anywhere.

1759
01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:52.039
<v Speaker 3>But I no longer believe that was a dream. I

1760
01:40:52.079 --> 01:40:55.079
<v Speaker 3>believe I was tested repeatedly, And it kind of freaks

1761
01:40:55.119 --> 01:40:56.960
<v Speaker 3>me out to say that because I didn't grow up

1762
01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:59.319
<v Speaker 3>on tarot cards. This is kind of crawling up the

1763
01:40:59.319 --> 01:41:01.199
<v Speaker 3>back of my neck as I learn it. You know,

1764
01:41:01.239 --> 01:41:03.760
<v Speaker 3>those hairs are standing up. But I do believe that

1765
01:41:03.880 --> 01:41:06.479
<v Speaker 3>now as a reasoning adult, I believe that I was

1766
01:41:06.520 --> 01:41:11.279
<v Speaker 3>forced to astro project and I was tested repeatedly for telekinesis,

1767
01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:13.880
<v Speaker 3>and that theory would sound insane until you read the

1768
01:41:13.920 --> 01:41:17.640
<v Speaker 3>actual documentation by the doctor that began the program that

1769
01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:20.680
<v Speaker 3>said they needed to pilot technology that had to be

1770
01:41:20.760 --> 01:41:23.239
<v Speaker 3>interacted with on an out of body level.

1771
01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Now, this is going to bring us deep, deep into

1772
01:41:27.199 --> 01:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the woo woo waters here. I've had quite a few

1773
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:35.399
<v Speaker 1>guests that have claimed to have been part of this

1774
01:41:35.920 --> 01:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>secret space program basically, and what these people claim that

1775
01:41:40.720 --> 01:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>they are being taken off planet physically and they're having

1776
01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>these battles with aliens. They're doing all of these operations

1777
01:41:51.199 --> 01:41:56.439
<v Speaker 1>for whatever Black Projects special access program that they're working for.

1778
01:41:57.159 --> 01:42:01.279
<v Speaker 1>It is speculated, and I've had many of people recently

1779
01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>that have come on and talked about the possibility of

1780
01:42:04.760 --> 01:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>just what you said. There could be either running simulations

1781
01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>on these people through altered states, different types of heagens

1782
01:42:18.119 --> 01:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>or technology, or they could be forcing an out of

1783
01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:29.640
<v Speaker 1>body experience astral projection, and what they're experiencing is different

1784
01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>layers of reality where life forms and intelligences can actually

1785
01:42:35.640 --> 01:42:40.039
<v Speaker 1>interact with them. And I lean towards that because I

1786
01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>do believe that outside of our perception, there's an ecosystem

1787
01:42:44.800 --> 01:42:48.399
<v Speaker 1>of life forms and intelligences that can interact with us,

1788
01:42:48.960 --> 01:42:53.119
<v Speaker 1>and it's possible that what's happening here is these people

1789
01:42:53.439 --> 01:42:59.479
<v Speaker 1>are being groomed and trained to be able to essentially

1790
01:42:59.600 --> 01:43:05.399
<v Speaker 1>carry out missions in these different realms, which is totally

1791
01:43:05.520 --> 01:43:11.439
<v Speaker 1>sci fi insane, but I think it's a huge possibility.

1792
01:43:12.880 --> 01:43:19.039
<v Speaker 3>Do you believe in inception? Yes? Just like the movie? Okay, Okay,

1793
01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:22.000
<v Speaker 3>I promised you a fun conversation. Are you ready to

1794
01:43:22.039 --> 01:43:29.039
<v Speaker 3>go deep, get spooky as hell and even talk Marvel movies? Okay? So,

1795
01:43:29.039 --> 01:43:31.960
<v Speaker 3>so let me to be respectful to you, say I

1796
01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:35.920
<v Speaker 3>apologize for the smoking. This topic actually gives me shit.

1797
01:43:38.640 --> 01:43:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for laying me be casual. It makes me

1798
01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:43.720
<v Speaker 3>nervous because I get these little flashes in my mind

1799
01:43:43.760 --> 01:43:46.119
<v Speaker 3>that I'll clarify in a moment. But okay, so I

1800
01:43:46.159 --> 01:43:48.399
<v Speaker 3>see three cubes on a ring, I'm supposed to move

1801
01:43:48.439 --> 01:43:51.319
<v Speaker 3>with my mind. The Air Force has a program running

1802
01:43:51.319 --> 01:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>to find telekinetic people that can interact with technology. Well

1803
01:43:55.119 --> 01:43:58.520
<v Speaker 3>what type of technology? Why cubes? Let's fast forward to

1804
01:43:58.600 --> 01:44:02.800
<v Speaker 3>where generation X. This is the X Men era. We

1805
01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:05.520
<v Speaker 3>all grew up on X Men movies. I have an

1806
01:44:05.840 --> 01:44:09.479
<v Speaker 3>X tattooed on my arm very clearly. That's in my

1807
01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:12.560
<v Speaker 3>family heraldry, and that's gonna become relevant in a moment.

1808
01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:17.159
<v Speaker 3>And so I start watching Marvel movies and they have

1809
01:44:17.319 --> 01:44:21.119
<v Speaker 3>Tessa Rax and they're these little glowing cubes. And then

1810
01:44:21.159 --> 01:44:23.000
<v Speaker 3>it turns out there's more of them, and what are

1811
01:44:23.000 --> 01:44:26.960
<v Speaker 3>they doing with them? They're opening gateways and things are

1812
01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:30.920
<v Speaker 3>coming through the gateways. So then I watch DC movies. Well,

1813
01:44:31.000 --> 01:44:33.720
<v Speaker 3>let me see, if you're competing against the biggest franchise

1814
01:44:33.760 --> 01:44:36.760
<v Speaker 3>in history, are you gonna try and steal their storyline?

1815
01:44:37.479 --> 01:44:41.079
<v Speaker 3>Of course, not like you're gonna do something competitive. There's

1816
01:44:41.119 --> 01:44:43.840
<v Speaker 3>so much material for DC. But what are they right about?

1817
01:44:44.359 --> 01:44:48.680
<v Speaker 3>Three cubes? The mother boxes that open gateways? And so

1818
01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:51.600
<v Speaker 3>now we've got the Gateway process, which ended up being

1819
01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:56.199
<v Speaker 3>the CIA program for twenty years. The movie Minister Goats

1820
01:44:56.279 --> 01:44:58.520
<v Speaker 3>is based on it. It's all factual. The guys are

1821
01:44:58.520 --> 01:45:02.159
<v Speaker 3>still alive, they've all come forward, spoken, NDAs ran out,

1822
01:45:02.199 --> 01:45:05.560
<v Speaker 3>So this is clearly happening. Now you've got gateways opening up.

1823
01:45:05.600 --> 01:45:08.760
<v Speaker 3>We have art pieces popping up on Earth that are gateways.

1824
01:45:09.039 --> 01:45:12.840
<v Speaker 3>I was in the gate program. It all starts to

1825
01:45:12.920 --> 01:45:15.439
<v Speaker 3>tie together, and I used to think it was what

1826
01:45:15.479 --> 01:45:18.319
<v Speaker 3>we all see on TikTok that the world's run by

1827
01:45:18.520 --> 01:45:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Satanists and they think they have to divulge their plans

1828
01:45:21.079 --> 01:45:23.399
<v Speaker 3>ahead of time, so if you do nothing to stop it,

1829
01:45:23.479 --> 01:45:26.760
<v Speaker 3>you deserve what you get. I don't really believe that.

1830
01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:30.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that there's a good guy team and they're

1831
01:45:30.079 --> 01:45:33.640
<v Speaker 3>using mass media to try and divulge truth and warn people.

1832
01:45:34.760 --> 01:45:39.880
<v Speaker 1>This is something that I love discussing and considering the

1833
01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:45.079
<v Speaker 1>possibility that there is some other force at play that

1834
01:45:46.159 --> 01:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>is essentially leading humanity in a certain direction through symbolism,

1835
01:45:54.279 --> 01:45:59.600
<v Speaker 1>certain types of media, and even certain people who are

1836
01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:05.680
<v Speaker 1>in positions of power that are playing certain roles. And

1837
01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I even go as far as to think maybe these

1838
01:46:07.880 --> 01:46:10.880
<v Speaker 1>people aren't even aware that they're playing a certain role,

1839
01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:15.199
<v Speaker 1>but the way things occur, there's a greater force that

1840
01:46:15.399 --> 01:46:19.920
<v Speaker 1>is pulling strings that may be causing us to become

1841
01:46:20.039 --> 01:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>aware and move in a certain direction.

1842
01:46:25.720 --> 01:46:28.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think if we know anything from a metaphysical

1843
01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:32.960
<v Speaker 3>level to a raw science level, facts that no one

1844
01:46:33.079 --> 01:46:38.039
<v Speaker 3>argues about in the mainstream, everything has two polarities always.

1845
01:46:38.439 --> 01:46:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Everything around us is magnetism. Everything we are, every piece

1846
01:46:42.640 --> 01:46:46.600
<v Speaker 3>of matter is a vibrating frequency with an electromagnetic field.

1847
01:46:46.880 --> 01:46:49.920
<v Speaker 3>The Earth is a toroidal field has one around it.

1848
01:46:50.279 --> 01:46:53.279
<v Speaker 3>Our atmosphere. If you believe in it is a toroidal field.

1849
01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:56.279
<v Speaker 3>So if everything has two poles, isn't there always the

1850
01:46:56.359 --> 01:46:59.359
<v Speaker 3>light and dark struggle? I would think that there's always

1851
01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:02.680
<v Speaker 3>two compete eating teams, even if it's just mafia's there's

1852
01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:05.199
<v Speaker 3>always somebody that's got it in, somebody else that makes

1853
01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:08.159
<v Speaker 3>room to take some and they tend to compete over time.

1854
01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:10.800
<v Speaker 3>I have to at least consider, with all the information

1855
01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:14.560
<v Speaker 3>going around today, that there is some kind of mass

1856
01:47:14.600 --> 01:47:18.079
<v Speaker 3>awakening happening, like how a slime mold learns, and our

1857
01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:23.399
<v Speaker 3>organism on a physical scientific level is adding information to

1858
01:47:23.520 --> 01:47:25.960
<v Speaker 3>the place we all draw it from. I believe in

1859
01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:28.720
<v Speaker 3>the Acota record or source or whatever people want to

1860
01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:31.640
<v Speaker 3>call it. And there certainly seems to be a suppression

1861
01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:35.600
<v Speaker 3>of information all over our physical earth. Why would you

1862
01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:38.840
<v Speaker 3>ever want to suppress your populace. Why don't you want

1863
01:47:38.840 --> 01:47:44.920
<v Speaker 3>the most functional, adept bright, healthy people possible. Well, well,

1864
01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:47.479
<v Speaker 3>you don't want slaves like that. And so if we

1865
01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:50.920
<v Speaker 3>go back to base philosophy, I think the oldest philosophers

1866
01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:54.600
<v Speaker 3>have always argued to themselves and amongst each other, is

1867
01:47:54.680 --> 01:47:59.159
<v Speaker 3>this existence a school or a prison? So now I

1868
01:47:59.239 --> 01:48:02.880
<v Speaker 3>have to consider, even based in root philosophy the basics,

1869
01:48:03.840 --> 01:48:08.680
<v Speaker 3>are we really here as this beautiful, unique being? Or

1870
01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:11.439
<v Speaker 3>does everything on this planet harm us, including spiders and

1871
01:48:11.479 --> 01:48:14.199
<v Speaker 3>snakes and bears and our own son and we don't

1872
01:48:14.199 --> 01:48:16.840
<v Speaker 3>have any claws? Could this be more like a labor camp?

1873
01:48:17.640 --> 01:48:19.520
<v Speaker 3>And then I thought, well, that's silly, because the world

1874
01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:22.359
<v Speaker 3>belongs to us. But then I was shown something very

1875
01:48:22.399 --> 01:48:25.920
<v Speaker 3>clearly after having heard it on a podcast We just

1876
01:48:26.239 --> 01:48:29.640
<v Speaker 3>had elon Musk fly planes and give cell phones to

1877
01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:36.119
<v Speaker 3>an uncontacted trot. Yeah. Okay, so we think that this

1878
01:48:36.199 --> 01:48:39.520
<v Speaker 3>earth is our domicile, except out of the whole Earth,

1879
01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:43.600
<v Speaker 3>only thirty percent of it is populatable land, not all

1880
01:48:43.640 --> 01:48:46.319
<v Speaker 3>of that's actually inhabitable, So we live on a very

1881
01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:49.520
<v Speaker 3>small percentage of that. And then within that area we

1882
01:48:49.560 --> 01:48:54.079
<v Speaker 3>live almost exclusively half now in these tight little pockets

1883
01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:59.840
<v Speaker 3>called major cities. And on that same limited plane, somehow

1884
01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:04.079
<v Speaker 3>you have a guy getting on a private jet to

1885
01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:07.880
<v Speaker 3>have a custom cooked meal by a chef, using invisible

1886
01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:11.039
<v Speaker 3>waves to contact people all over the planet, and then

1887
01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:14.119
<v Speaker 3>get off that jet to get in a million dollar automobile,

1888
01:49:14.359 --> 01:49:19.079
<v Speaker 3>and across this tiny little region we populate is literally

1889
01:49:19.399 --> 01:49:24.319
<v Speaker 3>a guy in like a loincloth shooting arrows and so

1890
01:49:24.319 --> 01:49:27.680
<v Speaker 3>so I say that because could the other seventy percent

1891
01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:29.960
<v Speaker 3>of Earth that we have nothing to do with, essentially

1892
01:49:30.560 --> 01:49:33.920
<v Speaker 3>our oceans, could they be populated by things? I don't

1893
01:49:33.920 --> 01:49:34.520
<v Speaker 3>see why not.

1894
01:49:35.399 --> 01:49:42.640
<v Speaker 1>There is this emerging consensus that for centuries, humanity has

1895
01:49:43.279 --> 01:49:51.439
<v Speaker 1>been subjected to a rulership by anti human at least

1896
01:49:52.399 --> 01:49:59.439
<v Speaker 1>people are maybe not people, but this rulership that keeps

1897
01:49:59.520 --> 01:50:05.239
<v Speaker 1>us under control with anti human ideologies, war, illness, all

1898
01:50:05.319 --> 01:50:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the things that we struggle against. Right now, we have

1899
01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:15.920
<v Speaker 1>this group of people that have basically enslaved humanity for centuries.

1900
01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:23.199
<v Speaker 1>I've been speaking with many psychics, intuitives, channelers. You can

1901
01:50:23.239 --> 01:50:25.319
<v Speaker 1>say what you want about a lot of these people.

1902
01:50:25.479 --> 01:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I do believe there's a lot of frauds and scammers

1903
01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:32.159
<v Speaker 1>out there, but I think there's people who have genuine connections.

1904
01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:37.159
<v Speaker 1>But it's very strange the overwhelming consensus that has come

1905
01:50:37.319 --> 01:50:43.560
<v Speaker 1>out of the psychic community and people who are genuinely

1906
01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:48.760
<v Speaker 1>tapping into something that we are reaching a time period

1907
01:50:48.840 --> 01:50:53.119
<v Speaker 1>where whatever this dark forces that had control over humanity

1908
01:50:53.159 --> 01:50:57.239
<v Speaker 1>for centuries is coming to an end. And that's with

1909
01:50:57.279 --> 01:51:01.920
<v Speaker 1>this awakening and waves of awareness crossing the planet. Really

1910
01:51:02.119 --> 01:51:07.920
<v Speaker 1>is is humanity is breaking out of this matrix system

1911
01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:12.319
<v Speaker 1>that we've been subjected to, and what we're being presented

1912
01:51:12.439 --> 01:51:16.720
<v Speaker 1>right now is different polarities. In a sense, it's a

1913
01:51:16.760 --> 01:51:20.359
<v Speaker 1>test to see what we gravitate towards. If we're going

1914
01:51:20.479 --> 01:51:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to adopt the anti human, pedophilic, satanic ideologies, or if

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01:51:26.720 --> 01:51:31.640
<v Speaker 1>we're going to reject those things. I'm very optimistic to

1916
01:51:31.720 --> 01:51:35.720
<v Speaker 1>see that. It seems like there's more people rejecting those

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01:51:35.760 --> 01:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>things these days than embracing them.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you, and let me ask how are

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01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:44.640
<v Speaker 3>we on time?

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01:51:45.239 --> 01:51:48.760
<v Speaker 1>We got about I usually go sixty to ninety minutes,

1921
01:51:48.880 --> 01:51:51.279
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you got about thirty forty minutes. If you

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01:51:51.319 --> 01:51:51.760
<v Speaker 1>need it.

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<v Speaker 3>Epic, I'll get right to the points then. So to

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01:51:57.199 --> 01:52:00.000
<v Speaker 3>respond to what you just said, I'm in full agreement

1925
01:52:00.199 --> 01:52:03.439
<v Speaker 3>with you, and I think that it's as simple as this.

1926
01:52:03.760 --> 01:52:07.319
<v Speaker 3>I've noticed lately the behavior of people. I think that

1927
01:52:07.399 --> 01:52:09.800
<v Speaker 3>lockdown showed us a lot of that. And I'm not

1928
01:52:09.840 --> 01:52:13.319
<v Speaker 3>about to make a political statement. I'm talking about people's attitudes.

1929
01:52:13.359 --> 01:52:15.960
<v Speaker 3>So let me give it to you like this. I'm

1930
01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:21.720
<v Speaker 3>forty years old, I'm sixty pounds overweight, my body's falling apart,

1931
01:52:21.760 --> 01:52:25.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm having surgeries and I figure out I have to

1932
01:52:25.119 --> 01:52:27.399
<v Speaker 3>do something to get back on track. I was always

1933
01:52:27.399 --> 01:52:30.239
<v Speaker 3>an athlete. I have to reclaim my health. They had

1934
01:52:30.279 --> 01:52:34.319
<v Speaker 3>given me so many diagnoses. I had been through fifteen

1935
01:52:34.399 --> 01:52:37.960
<v Speaker 3>medications and it was destroying my body. So when I

1936
01:52:38.000 --> 01:52:41.279
<v Speaker 3>start looking at how the world works, everything here holds

1937
01:52:41.359 --> 01:52:44.039
<v Speaker 3>us down. And the only reason that it happens, the

1938
01:52:44.079 --> 01:52:46.359
<v Speaker 3>only reason the IRS puts its foot on our neck

1939
01:52:46.399 --> 01:52:49.880
<v Speaker 3>and pharmaceuticals can poison people their whole lives, is because

1940
01:52:49.880 --> 01:52:53.079
<v Speaker 3>we allow it. Because eight billion people don't say, hey,

1941
01:52:53.159 --> 01:52:56.439
<v Speaker 3>time out. We're all done with that. And so what

1942
01:52:56.479 --> 01:52:59.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm seeing through the use of technology is that we're

1943
01:52:59.800 --> 01:53:03.439
<v Speaker 3>all communicating with each other on a very different level.

1944
01:53:03.560 --> 01:53:07.720
<v Speaker 3>It's rapid fire, it's immediate information, it's fifteen second clips

1945
01:53:07.720 --> 01:53:11.079
<v Speaker 3>straight to the facts. And through watching scientists run tests

1946
01:53:11.119 --> 01:53:14.000
<v Speaker 3>with slime mold, and from watching scientists run tests with

1947
01:53:14.119 --> 01:53:18.840
<v Speaker 3>rats separated by continents, we know we know scientifically that

1948
01:53:18.920 --> 01:53:22.600
<v Speaker 3>an organism has a mass consciousness, that when a rat

1949
01:53:22.680 --> 01:53:25.199
<v Speaker 3>learns to do something in amaze in America, that now

1950
01:53:25.239 --> 01:53:27.680
<v Speaker 3>the ones in England can do so. And when a

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01:53:27.720 --> 01:53:30.000
<v Speaker 3>slime mold learns something and you cut a piece of

1952
01:53:30.039 --> 01:53:32.920
<v Speaker 3>that slime mold out and drop it in an unrelated,

1953
01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:36.600
<v Speaker 3>separately grown slime mold. It now knows that trick, It

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01:53:36.720 --> 01:53:40.960
<v Speaker 3>knows that path. So where is the information stored? They say,

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01:53:40.960 --> 01:53:44.039
<v Speaker 3>this is a simulation all the time. I believe in source.

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01:53:44.119 --> 01:53:47.760
<v Speaker 3>You could call it God if you want. But even

1957
01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:50.520
<v Speaker 3>for a simulation to run, there has to be a

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01:53:50.600 --> 01:53:53.199
<v Speaker 3>memory of it, and there has to be a hard drive,

1959
01:53:53.239 --> 01:53:56.720
<v Speaker 3>if you will. So I believe that as more people

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01:53:56.840 --> 01:54:01.000
<v Speaker 3>ask questions and have thoughts, we repeat that onto the

1961
01:54:01.079 --> 01:54:04.520
<v Speaker 3>ecosc record, onto the hard drive, and it adds up

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01:54:04.600 --> 01:54:09.079
<v Speaker 3>to a polarity in mass consciousness. And here's the simple example.

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01:54:09.439 --> 01:54:11.960
<v Speaker 3>When I turned forty and I got back on self improvement,

1964
01:54:12.359 --> 01:54:15.840
<v Speaker 3>doing push ups, my nutrition, getting off the food supply,

1965
01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:21.560
<v Speaker 3>filtering my water, meditating, push ups, daily yoga. This is

1966
01:54:21.560 --> 01:54:24.319
<v Speaker 3>my one bad vice cigarettes and I started that when

1967
01:54:24.359 --> 01:54:27.479
<v Speaker 3>World War III was declared. But my point is that

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01:54:27.520 --> 01:54:31.520
<v Speaker 3>when I started getting my energy up, maybe maybe people

1969
01:54:31.600 --> 01:54:36.119
<v Speaker 3>picture Kundalini energy or chi or the way that they

1970
01:54:36.159 --> 01:54:40.640
<v Speaker 3>show in meditation how you can actually move up in

1971
01:54:40.680 --> 01:54:43.720
<v Speaker 3>your chakras. It's this simple. When I was in a

1972
01:54:43.840 --> 01:54:47.079
<v Speaker 3>terrible mood and bad things were happening, I repelled people,

1973
01:54:47.399 --> 01:54:49.920
<v Speaker 3>no one wants to be around you like that. But man,

1974
01:54:49.960 --> 01:54:52.159
<v Speaker 3>when I was laughing and smiling and having a good

1975
01:54:52.239 --> 01:54:54.359
<v Speaker 3>time and asking people how their day was, they were

1976
01:54:54.399 --> 01:54:57.279
<v Speaker 3>magnetically drawn to you. And I think that we as

1977
01:54:57.359 --> 01:55:01.279
<v Speaker 3>a human do that overall, w around a little ball

1978
01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:05.680
<v Speaker 3>of everything's wrong, you're sort of repelling people energetically. It's

1979
01:55:05.720 --> 01:55:08.720
<v Speaker 3>a magnetism. I believe that what you stated is in

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01:55:08.760 --> 01:55:14.359
<v Speaker 3>this time, people are choosing a higher voltage plus sign

1981
01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:17.119
<v Speaker 3>positive polarity, and that's the shit.

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01:55:18.560 --> 01:55:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think our reality is formed by our perspective

1983
01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and our collective perspective. And I like what you said

1984
01:55:26.199 --> 01:55:28.439
<v Speaker 1>about the hard drive, and I do believe in source

1985
01:55:28.479 --> 01:55:32.279
<v Speaker 1>as well. And I would put it even this way,

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01:55:32.359 --> 01:55:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that there is a central intelligence and we're all pieces

1987
01:55:37.680 --> 01:55:43.039
<v Speaker 1>of that central intelligence that observe and absorb information. But

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01:55:43.119 --> 01:55:46.039
<v Speaker 1>we also have a free will to choose what we're

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01:55:46.079 --> 01:55:48.720
<v Speaker 1>going to be interacting with, and that's how the central

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01:55:48.800 --> 01:55:55.439
<v Speaker 1>intelligence learns. And as we are presented these different polarities,

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01:55:56.199 --> 01:56:00.199
<v Speaker 1>we can decide what we want to align with. It

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01:56:00.279 --> 01:56:06.000
<v Speaker 1>seems like progressively we are choosing to align with the

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01:56:06.039 --> 01:56:09.239
<v Speaker 1>good with light. It may have taken some time, but

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01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:14.159
<v Speaker 1>I do see things overall getting better for humanity. I

1995
01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:16.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's a very important time that we're in overall

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01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:20.439
<v Speaker 1>as well. Now, I wanted to go back to your

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01:56:20.560 --> 01:56:24.760
<v Speaker 1>experiences for a minute, and you said that you had

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01:56:24.840 --> 01:56:29.000
<v Speaker 1>some career highs that may be tied into everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so this isn't bragging. I'm really grateful for my career,

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01:56:34.359 --> 01:56:37.359
<v Speaker 3>but there were a few moments in my life where

2001
01:56:37.439 --> 01:56:40.800
<v Speaker 3>it felt like doors were held open for me, and

2002
01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:43.960
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't talk about it as though I've been blessed,

2003
01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:47.239
<v Speaker 3>as though they were guiding it for my success. And

2004
01:56:47.279 --> 01:56:50.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a wealthy guy. I'm just a regular graphic designer.

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01:56:50.399 --> 01:56:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Man.

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01:56:50.640 --> 01:56:54.520
<v Speaker 3>That's what I do as marketing. But I come up

2007
01:56:54.560 --> 01:56:56.640
<v Speaker 3>with an idea and it was the first time I

2008
01:56:56.680 --> 01:56:59.520
<v Speaker 3>remember the idea just sort of being handed to my brain.

2009
01:57:00.039 --> 01:57:02.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm seventeen years old and I invent a dual viscosity

2010
01:57:03.079 --> 01:57:06.199
<v Speaker 3>skate wax. I drive my dad crazy ruin in the kitchen,

2011
01:57:06.239 --> 01:57:09.239
<v Speaker 3>melting crayons and canning wax and coming up with a formula.

2012
01:57:09.560 --> 01:57:13.199
<v Speaker 3>I talk to manufacturers distributors when I turn eighteen, thinking

2013
01:57:13.239 --> 01:57:15.399
<v Speaker 3>they'll take me seriously. At that age, I go to

2014
01:57:15.439 --> 01:57:20.039
<v Speaker 3>the biggest skate distribution it's in southern California. I pitch

2015
01:57:20.119 --> 01:57:22.840
<v Speaker 3>my product and they say, do you want a job here.

2016
01:57:23.680 --> 01:57:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm working with Ogo Bags. I have my own

2017
01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:30.640
<v Speaker 3>backpack line. Now I'm redesigning big lines in this skate industry.

2018
01:57:30.920 --> 01:57:33.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm up the street from World Industries, which are some

2019
01:57:33.279 --> 01:57:36.479
<v Speaker 3>of my heroes. I'm in Iconic Huntington Beach. I'm selling

2020
01:57:36.520 --> 01:57:39.079
<v Speaker 3>products all over the world, protective gear, my own line

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01:57:39.119 --> 01:57:42.880
<v Speaker 3>of gloves and helmets. It's like the doors were held open.

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01:57:42.920 --> 01:57:44.720
<v Speaker 3>So then I go to art school. I get a call,

2023
01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:47.039
<v Speaker 3>are you still doing what you do? My ex boss

2024
01:57:47.079 --> 01:57:51.359
<v Speaker 3>became a Hollywood movie producer. He brings me out to

2025
01:57:51.439 --> 01:57:54.079
<v Speaker 3>his new movie studio. He sets me up with an

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01:57:54.079 --> 01:57:56.920
<v Speaker 3>investor and I have a clothing line come out. And

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01:57:56.960 --> 01:57:58.960
<v Speaker 3>it made it all the way to Mannequin's in Pacific

2028
01:57:59.039 --> 01:58:01.399
<v Speaker 3>sunwhere my friends are. They can picture your clothing lines

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01:58:01.399 --> 01:58:05.359
<v Speaker 3>in the mall. There were these crazy career highs, but

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01:58:05.399 --> 01:58:07.560
<v Speaker 3>that's not what it said in the paperwork. The reason

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01:58:07.600 --> 01:58:10.199
<v Speaker 3>I was looking at those is it talked in the

2032
01:58:10.239 --> 01:58:14.520
<v Speaker 3>paperwork about these people, meaning me, having to be subjected

2033
01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:18.920
<v Speaker 3>to lifelong traumas. And every one of those opportunities, including

2034
01:58:18.960 --> 01:58:21.760
<v Speaker 3>I stood in the boardroom at Hasbro and pitched a

2035
01:58:21.840 --> 01:58:26.439
<v Speaker 3>game fifteen years ago that's now a major part of

2036
01:58:26.479 --> 01:58:31.479
<v Speaker 3>the gaming community. Every one of those was taken away

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01:58:31.479 --> 01:58:34.079
<v Speaker 3>from me. Everything I ever built got stripped away. You

2038
01:58:34.119 --> 01:58:39.119
<v Speaker 3>could say that's any entrepreneur. But there were enough unexplainable

2039
01:58:39.199 --> 01:58:42.680
<v Speaker 3>tragedies that came out of the blue that I have

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01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:45.000
<v Speaker 3>to wonder after everything I've read, like that they could

2041
01:58:45.079 --> 01:58:48.119
<v Speaker 3>map out a very specific person you date in college.

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01:58:49.159 --> 01:58:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Is the idea of inception possible? And it is part

2043
01:58:52.239 --> 01:58:55.640
<v Speaker 3>of my life scripted because you said activated earlier, and

2044
01:58:55.680 --> 01:58:58.359
<v Speaker 3>in that paperwork it said they were going to identify

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01:58:58.640 --> 01:59:03.920
<v Speaker 3>and manage intelligence assets to be activated later when this

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01:59:04.079 --> 01:59:06.199
<v Speaker 3>technology was needed for defense.

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01:59:07.279 --> 01:59:10.399
<v Speaker 1>You believe it could be possible that there are different

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01:59:10.880 --> 01:59:18.600
<v Speaker 1>intelligence factions that have different objectives, possibly good and bad.

2049
01:59:19.239 --> 01:59:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Some of these are grooming children to be possibly working

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01:59:25.239 --> 01:59:29.600
<v Speaker 1>for the dark side for dark intelligence operations, but there's

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01:59:29.680 --> 01:59:34.840
<v Speaker 1>also this other side that may be targeting children but

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01:59:35.159 --> 01:59:40.000
<v Speaker 1>to essentially place them in positions that could make change

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01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:40.640
<v Speaker 1>for the better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So let's talk about the UFO conference in front

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01:59:47.039 --> 01:59:50.159
<v Speaker 3>of Congress yesterday and I'll wrap this in one minute.

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<v Speaker 3>So we now have whistleblowers saying that Roswell was actually

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01:59:54.439 --> 01:59:58.760
<v Speaker 3>factually true, that we recovered a craft, that we then

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<v Speaker 3>engineered some type of technology that can knock unidentified craft

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02:00:03.600 --> 02:00:06.359
<v Speaker 3>out of the air, that we have several of these,

2060
02:00:06.600 --> 02:00:09.479
<v Speaker 3>and that we have learned something from the technology, and

2061
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<v Speaker 3>the government has spent billions of dollars on it and

2062
02:00:12.520 --> 02:00:14.359
<v Speaker 3>covered it all up. This is now coming out in

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<v Speaker 3>front of Congress. That's on MSNBC yesterday morning. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this is happening in our real lives. The government has

2065
02:00:20.520 --> 02:00:23.680
<v Speaker 3>downed craft. Nobody on this planet we're aware of built.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what I think happened. We start downing craft and

2067
02:00:28.840 --> 02:00:36.680
<v Speaker 3>eventually somebody shows up and says, I want that back. Yeah, yeah, right, Hey, hey,

2068
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<v Speaker 3>maybe I want my friend back. Maybe they're claiming they

2069
02:00:39.560 --> 02:00:43.079
<v Speaker 3>have bodies, right, I want this person back. We recover ours.

2070
02:00:43.119 --> 02:00:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't more advance people? So I want this guy back.

2071
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<v Speaker 3>So now they're communicating we can't do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That scares the shit out of the government at the time,

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02:00:51.199 --> 02:00:53.680
<v Speaker 3>and so they say, listen, you give us what we

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02:00:53.720 --> 02:00:56.560
<v Speaker 3>want and we'll give you something. Now you've got a

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02:00:56.560 --> 02:01:00.359
<v Speaker 3>little alien technology. Now you're talking to somebody from somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have open communication. And if I'm thinking like

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<v Speaker 3>a war general, my next question is how do we

2078
02:01:05.600 --> 02:01:08.560
<v Speaker 3>kill it? If we had to fight it and it

2079
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<v Speaker 3>was able to just come here and do this and

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<v Speaker 3>talk to us and they're around, what if we ever

2081
02:01:13.720 --> 02:01:17.079
<v Speaker 3>had to face them. Well, I'm not sure that you

2082
02:01:17.119 --> 02:01:21.479
<v Speaker 3>would activate that right now, because then it's discoverable, then

2083
02:01:21.520 --> 02:01:23.920
<v Speaker 3>it has a location. But if you know you needed

2084
02:01:23.960 --> 02:01:27.880
<v Speaker 3>to do it, maybe you could get people mentally trained,

2085
02:01:28.279 --> 02:01:32.680
<v Speaker 3>not physically prepared for this, and they would be waiting

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02:01:32.720 --> 02:01:35.039
<v Speaker 3>for a queue to do something that needed done at

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<v Speaker 3>the time. I have to consider it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got different perspectives on this question, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>do you believe that these programs are still in operation.

2090
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<v Speaker 1>I've heard that some people say that they are not,

2091
02:01:50.760 --> 02:01:55.399
<v Speaker 1>that they've already served the purpose and it's now about

2092
02:01:55.640 --> 02:01:58.399
<v Speaker 1>implementing the people who are in the programs. And some

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02:01:58.600 --> 02:02:02.560
<v Speaker 1>believe that it's still going on, but just in different ways.

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02:02:02.600 --> 02:02:05.399
<v Speaker 1>They have different types of technology. They don't need the

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02:02:05.479 --> 02:02:09.199
<v Speaker 1>children to be physically there anymore. They can enter their

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02:02:09.239 --> 02:02:12.159
<v Speaker 1>mind in their dreams and activate this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think, Yes, I believe it's still going on,

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02:02:17.359 --> 02:02:20.279
<v Speaker 3>because why wouldn't it be Okay, let's be honest. The

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02:02:20.279 --> 02:02:23.840
<v Speaker 3>government tries to soak up everybody. They can't everybody that

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02:02:23.880 --> 02:02:26.800
<v Speaker 3>would be a usable asset. Of course they want Why

2101
02:02:26.840 --> 02:02:29.800
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't you. The elites consider us a bunch of eaters

2102
02:02:29.800 --> 02:02:32.079
<v Speaker 3>and breeders. So if there's any bright ones out there,

2103
02:02:32.720 --> 02:02:35.640
<v Speaker 3>these are going to be houseworkers. And so here's the

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<v Speaker 3>way I see it. If it was running in the sixties,

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02:02:37.760 --> 02:02:39.079
<v Speaker 3>and it was running when I was in it in

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02:02:39.119 --> 02:02:41.359
<v Speaker 3>the eighties, I would say, yes, of course it's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's what I think it really is. If they're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to work for us, we don't want them

2109
02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:48.840
<v Speaker 3>to be a problem. You want to identify everybody, and

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<v Speaker 3>I personally think we're managed like stock, as vulgar as

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02:02:51.880 --> 02:02:54.600
<v Speaker 3>that is. So they want to know what serial number

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02:02:54.640 --> 02:02:57.359
<v Speaker 3>could benefit them in what way, But also who would

2113
02:02:57.399 --> 02:02:59.520
<v Speaker 3>be a problem. If you're not an asset and you're

2114
02:02:59.560 --> 02:03:02.960
<v Speaker 3>really smart, you might compete with us, you might discover plans.

2115
02:03:03.359 --> 02:03:07.119
<v Speaker 3>They want to know people's morality and values as well,

2116
02:03:07.520 --> 02:03:09.600
<v Speaker 3>because what if you do work for our team, but

2117
02:03:09.640 --> 02:03:11.600
<v Speaker 3>you got a problem with what we're doing and you

2118
02:03:11.680 --> 02:03:16.119
<v Speaker 3>divulge information. So I think that what we have going

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<v Speaker 3>on with countries is essentially a mob war to hold power,

2120
02:03:19.840 --> 02:03:22.079
<v Speaker 3>and different countries are different mobs, and some of them

2121
02:03:22.119 --> 02:03:24.640
<v Speaker 3>look like enemies and aren't. And they need to know

2122
02:03:25.000 --> 02:03:29.079
<v Speaker 3>who would be capable of making a difference or swaying opinions.

2123
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<v Speaker 3>And I think that ties right into the program because

2124
02:03:31.640 --> 02:03:34.520
<v Speaker 3>in the paperwork it said that we would have to

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<v Speaker 3>be on computers and then we would make memes. We

2126
02:03:37.720 --> 02:03:40.960
<v Speaker 3>would be meeting wizards, is what is said. Okay, I

2127
02:03:41.079 --> 02:03:44.079
<v Speaker 3>was in poor neighborhoods my whole life. Only my dad worked.

2128
02:03:44.079 --> 02:03:46.840
<v Speaker 3>We never had new cars. But when I'm seven years old,

2129
02:03:46.840 --> 02:03:49.840
<v Speaker 3>I get a home computer and a programming book and

2130
02:03:49.880 --> 02:03:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm coding. When I turned fourteen, my dad that didn't

2131
02:03:54.439 --> 02:03:57.279
<v Speaker 3>I had furniture with no legs on the chairs, and

2132
02:03:57.319 --> 02:04:00.239
<v Speaker 3>this guy buys me a full workstation, top top of

2133
02:04:00.239 --> 02:04:03.119
<v Speaker 3>the line, new computer again. And right now today, if

2134
02:04:03.159 --> 02:04:05.399
<v Speaker 3>you go look at my Facebook, there's no pictures of me.

2135
02:04:05.760 --> 02:04:08.279
<v Speaker 3>There's no pictures of my family, my cat's what I

2136
02:04:08.439 --> 02:04:11.640
<v Speaker 3>ate for lunch, none of that. There's like five hundred

2137
02:04:11.760 --> 02:04:17.319
<v Speaker 3>pieces of detailed art that's anti establishment, anti pharma, anti

2138
02:04:17.359 --> 02:04:21.279
<v Speaker 3>big government, and has messages I felt were channeled through

2139
02:04:21.319 --> 02:04:27.760
<v Speaker 3>me about AI technology and wake up. It's pretty strange, men,

2140
02:04:27.880 --> 02:04:30.439
<v Speaker 3>that it fits this narrative that they wrote in the

2141
02:04:30.479 --> 02:04:33.039
<v Speaker 3>seventies and it continues to make me feel like my

2142
02:04:33.079 --> 02:04:34.159
<v Speaker 3>life is scripted.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is so interesting. Man. I've got one more

2144
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<v Speaker 1>question for you before we close out. It's a very

2145
02:04:40.560 --> 02:04:45.479
<v Speaker 1>strange question, but do you often notice sequential numbers on

2146
02:04:45.560 --> 02:04:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a clock at specific times?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? It's only started occurring to me. Yeah, and I

2148
02:04:53.840 --> 02:04:58.279
<v Speaker 3>noticed it because I was in church for five years

2149
02:04:58.600 --> 02:05:01.880
<v Speaker 3>as the Christian believer, and I'm out now if I

2150
02:05:02.079 --> 02:05:04.640
<v Speaker 3>could state it that way. But someone told me the

2151
02:05:04.680 --> 02:05:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Bible was so beautiful because it was so immaculately written,

2152
02:05:07.880 --> 02:05:10.520
<v Speaker 3>and that's why Jamatria is important. So I studied the

2153
02:05:10.560 --> 02:05:14.039
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew language. And it's strange for me because my name

2154
02:05:14.239 --> 02:05:18.560
<v Speaker 3>in the Jamatria calculator in English Jamatria. My family was

2155
02:05:18.640 --> 02:05:21.680
<v Speaker 3>knighted in England. That was the heraldry. My name is

2156
02:05:21.720 --> 02:05:25.800
<v Speaker 3>eight eight eight. I was born at eight am during

2157
02:05:25.840 --> 02:05:30.239
<v Speaker 3>an eclipse. There's there's three eights following me around everywhere

2158
02:05:30.239 --> 02:05:32.720
<v Speaker 3>in my life, and all of a sudden I noticed

2159
02:05:33.039 --> 02:05:35.479
<v Speaker 3>every three three, three, every four four four right on

2160
02:05:35.600 --> 02:05:37.760
<v Speaker 3>my clock all the time, as though what I'm doing

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02:05:37.800 --> 02:05:41.119
<v Speaker 3>at that moment is at the correct marker on a path.

2162
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, go this way, Yes, man, I get the same

2163
02:05:45.119 --> 02:05:49.640
<v Speaker 1>thing with ones and twos. It's it's very interesting, all right.

2164
02:05:49.720 --> 02:05:52.680
<v Speaker 1>So if you have ice to see there seems to

2165
02:05:52.760 --> 02:05:59.600
<v Speaker 1>be this mystical connection to everything and everyone that this

2166
02:05:59.760 --> 02:06:06.800
<v Speaker 1>may be. This existence is more scripted in a way

2167
02:06:06.960 --> 02:06:11.479
<v Speaker 1>than we would actually like to believe. I believe we

2168
02:06:11.560 --> 02:06:14.520
<v Speaker 1>do have free will, but I, like I was saying earlier,

2169
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<v Speaker 1>I think there is a greater force that can tap

2170
02:06:18.199 --> 02:06:23.439
<v Speaker 1>in to certain people at certain times and possibly sway

2171
02:06:23.520 --> 02:06:29.880
<v Speaker 1>a decision or change the overall direction of that person's life,

2172
02:06:29.960 --> 02:06:33.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe for the better, maybe for a greater good. Who knows.

2173
02:06:33.960 --> 02:06:35.960
<v Speaker 1>But this is definitely fascinating.

2174
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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's running deep in my life right now. And

2176
02:06:41.479 --> 02:06:43.079
<v Speaker 3>I know you want to wrap up, so maybe I

2177
02:06:43.079 --> 02:06:45.960
<v Speaker 3>could wrap it fired a show and tell you good.

2178
02:06:46.319 --> 02:06:50.239
<v Speaker 3>I think. Really, I'll keep this quick. But first of all,

2179
02:06:50.319 --> 02:06:54.159
<v Speaker 3>I actually somehow came into having all my report cards,

2180
02:06:54.159 --> 02:06:56.840
<v Speaker 3>and I imagine you guys can't really read this too well,

2181
02:06:57.399 --> 02:06:59.800
<v Speaker 3>but if anybody was to look at that, it says

2182
02:07:00.079 --> 02:07:04.560
<v Speaker 3>updates program. Yeah, And I only say that because I

2183
02:07:04.560 --> 02:07:07.880
<v Speaker 3>imagine that people are clout chasing online or something. But

2184
02:07:08.079 --> 02:07:10.680
<v Speaker 3>here is from McKinley school, when they said I was

2185
02:07:10.720 --> 02:07:14.119
<v Speaker 3>going to change classrooms and that I was going to

2186
02:07:14.199 --> 02:07:17.920
<v Speaker 3>be in this special tested program. And here's where it

2187
02:07:17.920 --> 02:07:21.960
<v Speaker 3>gets weird. They just kept testing us for everything. Bro

2188
02:07:22.159 --> 02:07:24.840
<v Speaker 3>I always got DS in math. I was ninety eighth

2189
02:07:24.880 --> 02:07:27.960
<v Speaker 3>percentile in most things there wasn't math. They put me

2190
02:07:28.000 --> 02:07:31.760
<v Speaker 3>on the math team, chess club, they had us after

2191
02:07:31.840 --> 02:07:35.840
<v Speaker 3>school program fitness. They made us presidential award all the fitness.

2192
02:07:36.159 --> 02:07:38.520
<v Speaker 3>And what's really strange is that now today, if you

2193
02:07:38.560 --> 02:07:40.399
<v Speaker 3>went and looked at my artwork, you might call them

2194
02:07:40.439 --> 02:07:44.640
<v Speaker 3>political cartoons. And what's really weird is the first time

2195
02:07:44.720 --> 02:07:49.000
<v Speaker 3>I remember being in the school paper in second grade,

2196
02:07:49.479 --> 02:07:53.960
<v Speaker 3>I drew a political cartoon about the president. So it's

2197
02:07:54.039 --> 02:07:56.920
<v Speaker 3>very strange that everything I put up now is anti war.

2198
02:07:57.640 --> 02:08:00.439
<v Speaker 3>And see the other thing is that later in in

2199
02:08:00.479 --> 02:08:04.119
<v Speaker 3>like second grade, they made us play all the time

2200
02:08:04.159 --> 02:08:06.119
<v Speaker 3>in the computer lab. And I say play because it

2201
02:08:06.159 --> 02:08:09.960
<v Speaker 3>sounded fun to kids. But part of this conspiracy with

2202
02:08:10.079 --> 02:08:14.199
<v Speaker 3>the Gate program ties into that game Oregon Trail, and

2203
02:08:14.279 --> 02:08:17.640
<v Speaker 3>my school taught a lot of Oregon Trail to our classes.

2204
02:08:18.840 --> 02:08:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Think about it. You died of dysentery first grade or

2205
02:08:22.399 --> 02:08:29.680
<v Speaker 3>what this is. It's resource management and it's bravery testing

2206
02:08:30.720 --> 02:08:34.760
<v Speaker 3>in a time of limited resources, right, And so they

2207
02:08:34.800 --> 02:08:38.680
<v Speaker 3>had us write a bound book journal in like first

2208
02:08:38.800 --> 02:08:42.439
<v Speaker 3>grade about how we would survive on the Oregon Trail.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it's weird because I get a tattoo years later,

2210
02:08:46.159 --> 02:08:48.800
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not big on words. My tattoo artist fills

2211
02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:51.600
<v Speaker 3>a space by putting survivor on my arm. I didn't

2212
02:08:51.640 --> 02:08:56.079
<v Speaker 3>like have cancer or anything. So then it's really wild, bro,

2213
02:08:56.199 --> 02:08:58.960
<v Speaker 3>because when I get into college and I start designing

2214
02:08:59.600 --> 02:09:02.640
<v Speaker 3>my life, that they just called me and said, can

2215
02:09:02.640 --> 02:09:06.159
<v Speaker 3>we basically put it in the mall for you? Came

2216
02:09:06.199 --> 02:09:08.760
<v Speaker 3>from a guy I had done a very specific logo

2217
02:09:08.880 --> 02:09:11.720
<v Speaker 3>for I found that logo that I based mine on

2218
02:09:11.920 --> 02:09:15.079
<v Speaker 3>in a printed book in the Huntington Library. And now

2219
02:09:15.119 --> 02:09:18.039
<v Speaker 3>today this flag I have hanging up I see every

2220
02:09:18.119 --> 02:09:21.560
<v Speaker 3>day on the news because it's the Iranian flag center

2221
02:09:21.680 --> 02:09:26.279
<v Speaker 3>logo that read mark in the center. My college design

2222
02:09:26.439 --> 02:09:28.800
<v Speaker 3>was based on it. A clothing line I did was

2223
02:09:28.840 --> 02:09:33.720
<v Speaker 3>called Genetics. Now all we hear about every day is RNA.

2224
02:09:33.840 --> 02:09:36.920
<v Speaker 3>My line that went into the mall was called carbon fourteen.

2225
02:09:37.279 --> 02:09:39.640
<v Speaker 3>That's a very specific type of carbon we use for

2226
02:09:39.760 --> 02:09:42.520
<v Speaker 3>carbon dating. And I think we're finding out our whole

2227
02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:47.199
<v Speaker 3>timeline is a complete farce, a total lie. So then

2228
02:09:47.640 --> 02:09:50.479
<v Speaker 3>to finish up my show and tell, I began in

2229
02:09:50.560 --> 02:09:54.239
<v Speaker 3>church a project called the Soldier Project. I work with

2230
02:09:54.279 --> 02:09:56.800
<v Speaker 3>a girl that I won't tell her story because it's

2231
02:09:56.840 --> 02:10:01.560
<v Speaker 3>grotesque what was done to her of her story. I

2232
02:10:01.640 --> 02:10:04.359
<v Speaker 3>end up making rubber bracelets and the first thing they

2233
02:10:04.399 --> 02:10:07.560
<v Speaker 3>say is soldier, and I spell at soul, this isn't

2234
02:10:07.560 --> 02:10:09.920
<v Speaker 3>a plug. It has I am right on it, just

2235
02:10:10.000 --> 02:10:13.039
<v Speaker 3>like sourced. And then later in my artwork, I start

2236
02:10:13.039 --> 02:10:16.000
<v Speaker 3>making pieces I'm given and they say I am, I am,

2237
02:10:16.079 --> 02:10:19.520
<v Speaker 3>and you'll see them look at her tagline I borrowed.

2238
02:10:20.119 --> 02:10:24.359
<v Speaker 3>I was built for this war. I wasn't in the military.

2239
02:10:24.600 --> 02:10:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not some gung ho guy. I've been wearing a

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02:10:27.000 --> 02:10:30.319
<v Speaker 3>bracelet that says soldier under a flag that says soldier

2241
02:10:30.800 --> 02:10:33.680
<v Speaker 3>with a skulling crossbones on it that contains an X

2242
02:10:34.079 --> 02:10:38.520
<v Speaker 3>down with all crowns. This is Memento mori. And then

2243
02:10:38.560 --> 02:10:42.159
<v Speaker 3>that turns out to be the skulling bones actual motto.

2244
02:10:42.239 --> 02:10:44.479
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that. I didn't look into spooky stuff.

2245
02:10:44.640 --> 02:10:49.000
<v Speaker 3>This is from my college days. So my artwork, my companies,

2246
02:10:49.039 --> 02:10:51.760
<v Speaker 3>I formed seem to tie into this narrative, even to

2247
02:10:51.800 --> 02:10:53.880
<v Speaker 3>the point that I've been lugging a classic car round

2248
02:10:53.960 --> 02:10:58.680
<v Speaker 3>for twenty five years called a nova, and soon, right now, anytime,

2249
02:10:59.199 --> 02:11:02.760
<v Speaker 3>there's about to be the first for many lifetimes and

2250
02:11:02.920 --> 02:11:05.399
<v Speaker 3>many more to come, We're gonna see a nova in

2251
02:11:05.439 --> 02:11:08.520
<v Speaker 3>the sky. And the last time it happened was the

2252
02:11:08.640 --> 02:11:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Carrington event, the Carrington event that wiped out all the

2253
02:11:11.920 --> 02:11:15.319
<v Speaker 3>telegraphed tables on Earth that the History Channel's been saying,

2254
02:11:15.319 --> 02:11:17.800
<v Speaker 3>if we ever have another Carrington event, it'll be a

2255
02:11:17.880 --> 02:11:23.119
<v Speaker 3>lights out blackout. It seems to all be connected. And

2256
02:11:23.159 --> 02:11:26.920
<v Speaker 3>here's the last part of it. So, when I'm a kid,

2257
02:11:27.640 --> 02:11:31.399
<v Speaker 3>the dream about the frogs, frogs are reptiles or they

2258
02:11:31.439 --> 02:11:34.079
<v Speaker 3>look like them. Maybe I have that wrong scientifically, but

2259
02:11:34.800 --> 02:11:37.039
<v Speaker 3>in that realm, I become as a kid a fan

2260
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<v Speaker 3>of Ninja turtles. Do you think, well, so what? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a four foot Michelangelo statue in my studio.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a fun gag on my podcast You're Gonna

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<v Speaker 3>see where this is going. When I was a little kid,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a painting of Saint Michael watching over me,

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<v Speaker 3>and tapes were played for me at night repetitiously I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember what was on the tape, so I remember

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<v Speaker 3>some classic music. I remember some fifties music. But later

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<v Speaker 3>in my adult life, as I'm doing other things, I

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<v Speaker 3>get gifts for our shows, I buy jewelry. I end

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<v Speaker 3>up with four pieces of jewelry given to me. One

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<v Speaker 3>of them Saint Michael. One of them is the symmetrical

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<v Speaker 3>cross that turns out to be Saint Michael's cross, Saint

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<v Speaker 3>Michael sigil. I'm not only wearing these. The first thing

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<v Speaker 3>that I was obsessed with as a kid was Voltron,

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<v Speaker 3>and that symmetrical cross is right on his chest. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sitting next to a giant, expensive Voltron also, and Saint Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>My Ninja turtle is Mikey. It's Michaelangelo. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>go pull this necklace out of my box. These are

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<v Speaker 3>all unrelated pieces? Are you kidding me? There's the same

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<v Speaker 3>exact piece I didn't even realize was on my ring.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the cross on Voltron, it's Saint Michael. And I

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<v Speaker 3>got a four foot Mikey statue watching over me. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I'm just putting meaning where there isn't any, But

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<v Speaker 3>after what I've experienced lately with the contact, the single

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<v Speaker 3>vision I've had. I'm starting to feel like something somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>else wants to talk to us, and we have to

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<v Speaker 3>let that in.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, you know, I have to consider everything because our

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<v Speaker 1>reality is obviously so much more than we could ever imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's starting to present itself to us

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<v Speaker 1>as we become aware. We're starting our perceptions are opening

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<v Speaker 1>a little. And there are some folks like yourself who

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<v Speaker 1>are starting to have memories that connect a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>strange childhood events to a bigger picture of what's unfolding

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<v Speaker 1>right now. So this is fascinating, Brandon. Before you go,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope this encourages other people who are in similar programs,

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<v Speaker 1>having similar memories to start talking about it, to start

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<v Speaker 1>presenting the information. And I'm sure they'll want to learn

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<v Speaker 1>more about you. So where can they do so?

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to check out my artwork, it's

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<v Speaker 3>under Brandon Barnett. That's bar Ett, and that's on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 3>My hashtag is human Rights Artist. Hashtag Human Rights Artist

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<v Speaker 3>links to all my artwork. Since we're wrapping up, I

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<v Speaker 3>won't go into anything, but I will tell you there's

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<v Speaker 3>some music in there. I've never participated in music in

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<v Speaker 3>my life and if you believe in this experience of

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<v Speaker 3>being handed something. I wrote a sixty poem album with

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<v Speaker 3>music on my lunch breaks and put it out on SoundCloud.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a wild experience for me. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get people to listen to my music. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>telling you this was just a moment for me. Something

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<v Speaker 3>was handed to me artistically that helped me learn about

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<v Speaker 3>myself and it's wild. It exist. So you could check

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<v Speaker 3>out my art, you could check out my music, and

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<v Speaker 3>we used to do some shows you'll find on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>I sent you my links if you want to post them,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris and people are people are welcome to EMA tail

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<v Speaker 3>me if they want to man, so you can put

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<v Speaker 3>that in the link.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, Brandon, thank you so much. I'd love to get

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<v Speaker 1>back with you in the future. There's a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>we can definitely get into. And until next time, everyone.

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