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<v Speaker 1>Just shy at seven oh six here fifty five Caroseeed.

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<v Speaker 1>He talks station Brian Thomas, wishing you a very happy Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>inviting you to listen to lunch. Going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Weedhaman Brewery in Saint Bernard and I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>seeing folks. Heard from Cribbage Mike earlier, heard from Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>Smithaman he's going to be showing up of course west Side,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Kiefer and maybe Adam Caller in studio to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about his campaign running for Hamid County Commissioner. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to put you on the spot and I'm gonna ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>can you make a listener to lunch today? You got plans?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually am doing a legoddess. Uh. It's a Catholic

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<v Speaker 2>business owners group that I'm in. I'm doing a thing

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<v Speaker 2>with them today. So yeah, good for you. That's prior plans.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course you're on a campaign trail. I understand

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<v Speaker 2>do my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been at listener lunch many times, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're missing. Good time. Anyhow, without further ado, let's

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<v Speaker 1>dive on into the situation. Of course, Sadam is running

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<v Speaker 1>for Hamiltonkenny Commissioner. Haven't seen really anything by way of

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<v Speaker 1>activity from the current incumbents. Kind of been maintaining a

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<v Speaker 1>really low profile, haven't they.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen anything outside of them, you know, crying

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<v Speaker 2>about the frank LeRose proposal yesterday, with the whole ballot

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<v Speaker 2>harvesting situation we got going on, That's the last time

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard of them at all. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 2>they have a whole bunch of energy or they maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they just have too much confidence, well.

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<v Speaker 1>In a lot of people, you know, they we know

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton County has gone blue. I mean, no one can

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<v Speaker 1>deny that we've got some critically important races here. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I am in favor of your campaign one,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you, and I know where you are on

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<v Speaker 1>the issues. I mean, for no other reason, jeez, we

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<v Speaker 1>could use somebody with a different opinion or attitude than

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<v Speaker 1>the lockstep leftist mentality we get from the commissioners or

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<v Speaker 1>really literally nothing at all, and that would cause me

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<v Speaker 1>to move over to local reporting, because I mean, let's

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<v Speaker 1>face it, do you ever read anything about what the

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton Kenny commissioners are doing?

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<v Speaker 2>You have no idea. Nobody even knows what commissioner's jobs are.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're right in the checks. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money's coming in. We control the biggest budget in the area,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of that goes to the sheriffs. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that goes to public services, the parks, things

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But people don't understand how much power, essentially

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<v Speaker 2>the Himilt County Commissioners have. But you don't hear from them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like invisible for some reason. Everybody focuses on city Council,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Hamil County Commissioners have a lot of power

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<v Speaker 2>to do a lot of things that could change the

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<v Speaker 2>way money is spent. Your tax dollars are spent in

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<v Speaker 2>this area.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of the areas that I have heard. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know because I'm not a Hamilton County sheriff, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do talk to Sheriff Jim Neil quite our hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff again. Jim Neil, of course is running against our

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<v Speaker 1>current sheriff, Charmy McGuffey. But the whole kind of DEI

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<v Speaker 1>environment that's going on, and that they're promoting that and

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<v Speaker 1>that means promoting people based upon maybe the color of

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<v Speaker 1>their skin, or their gender or their sexuality as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to a merit increase, and that is a morale killer.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just in every company in America. Once

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<v Speaker 1>they've adopted these policies, you can see more and more

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<v Speaker 1>have of them are dropping them. The minute it's revealed

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<v Speaker 1>that they pursue these policies, someone points it out and

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing you know, look, oh more, Molson Coors

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<v Speaker 1>has scrapped it's woke DEI policies. There's a local article

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<v Speaker 1>in the newspaper this morning about oh who was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, which school Texas did a Duke University? Just did

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<v Speaker 2>I believe? Northern Kentucky University, North the Kentucky Universe, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the one I read.

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<v Speaker 1>Their Office of Inclusive Excellence, which is the DII office,

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<v Speaker 1>has been dropped. So it's being rejected more and more

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<v Speaker 1>because it really profoundly impacts employee morale. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not working off merit, then it's Katie bar

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<v Speaker 1>the door.

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<v Speaker 2>America is about meritocracy. It is greatness needs meritocracy. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't And this goes back to the schools, Brian. The

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati public school system is in complete shambles. If you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have these problems, I mean, you've got a forty

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<v Speaker 2>one percent chronic truancy rate in the Sinsini public schools.

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<v Speaker 2>We spend twenty one thousand dollars a student, two to

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<v Speaker 2>three times more than what some of these public schools

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<v Speaker 2>are charging. Yet we get nineteen percent college readiness rates

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<v Speaker 2>those kids that are graduating. And I was one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Cincide Public right pretty much my whole

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<v Speaker 2>entire life. They're not coming out of school prepared for

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<v Speaker 2>these things. So why would you force a square peg

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<v Speaker 2>into a round hole? The problem is the schools you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't need DEI. If the schools were performing exactly, you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't need it. The kids would be prepared. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're someone who's being forced into a job that you're

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<v Speaker 2>not prepared for, you shouldn't want that position anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Greed set yourself up for You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Setting yourself up for failure. Why would you want something

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't earned?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, which takes me back to the point I was

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<v Speaker 1>hoping would be reality. You mentioned and how much control

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioners have. They're in charge of the sheriff budget.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the biggest chance of money that the county pays out.

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<v Speaker 1>Could they not have limitations on how that money is spent.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, none of this money can be ear

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<v Speaker 1>marker used or otherwise for diversity, equity inclusion programs and

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<v Speaker 1>things in doctrination programs and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what when I knew that Jim Neil

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<v Speaker 2>was the right guy for the job was when he

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<v Speaker 2>told me we don't need more money. I said, Jim,

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<v Speaker 2>if I become one of the HAMLK kind of commissioners,

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<v Speaker 2>you tell me what you need. Because crime and safety

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the biggest problems in the county. People

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<v Speaker 2>leave the county number one. I did a survey on

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter the other day. The number one reason, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in this city my entire life. If you left,

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<v Speaker 2>why did you leave? Crime and safety was number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Schools was number two. And I said to Jim, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you you let us know what you need. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need more money, Adam. He said, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to be more efficient, we need to be more proactive,

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<v Speaker 2>We need to get into the community, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>work with the people. And I said, that's the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I've heard any right, any any police officer, fireman,

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<v Speaker 2>anyone tell me they didn't need more money, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>Jim's a Westsider. How we are where, you know, hiding

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<v Speaker 2>money under the mattress.

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<v Speaker 1>Just have a lot of the money we first earned,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the original the dollar that we first earned,

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<v Speaker 1>still in our pockets. And that's just the way west

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<v Speaker 1>Siders are typically very frugal with the money. But I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that see his admission along those lines as

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<v Speaker 1>a reflection that it's not the amount of money, it's how.

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<v Speaker 2>It's spent and look at the waste. Like one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things Brian and I would get so excited about

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<v Speaker 2>this being a cheap Westsider who was raised by a grandma,

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<v Speaker 2>little German, five foot tall grandma who grew up in

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<v Speaker 2>the depression. I would love to get a third party audit,

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<v Speaker 2>just to go look at the county's numbers, Go look

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<v Speaker 2>at all the money we see spend on. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>DEI department. There's a d I department called the DEI department.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't even try to hide it in the county.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do we have a d I department? Are there

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of wealthy white college PhDs looking to get

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<v Speaker 2>jobs at the county that we don't know about that

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<v Speaker 2>we need to keep out of those jobs. It's government work, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean everybody can work in those jobs. So I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you've got you've got just craziness going on. And

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it's it's kind of a grift by Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>to get people who went to college for BS degrees,

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<v Speaker 2>liberal arts degrees just to find them positions.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly it. It is industry that was created whole cloth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like the green industry.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what it creates jobs for people that have no

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<v Speaker 2>other skills.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Or you know, went to college and racked up

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<v Speaker 1>fifty to one hundred maybe two hundred thousand dollars worth

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<v Speaker 1>a student loan debt and came out with a degree

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<v Speaker 1>in humanities or you know, human studies or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Or just call it a degree in complaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there you go, that's what it is. So we

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<v Speaker 1>got to create a new department to hire those folks

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't have jobs or otherwise don't have anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>to turn for gainful employment because the degree was pointless.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the vast majority of jobs recently, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the employment numbers THO or government jobs

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<v Speaker 2>that are being added, I know that a huge swath

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<v Speaker 2>of those jobs and you know the Feds looking at

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<v Speaker 2>what job numbers. One of the reasons they haven't dropped

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<v Speaker 2>interest rates recently is because the job numbers look good.

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<v Speaker 2>What they've been told is that the job numbers are great,

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<v Speaker 2>and then later on they reassess those numbers and they realize, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we had eight hundred thousand less jobs added last year, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But hear that it's like jeez least.

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<v Speaker 2>But when they first announced the numbers, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have one job and that was the figure out

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<v Speaker 1>where we are in terms of well.

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<v Speaker 2>And here here we are kids can't afford houses. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got an entire generation of people that can't afford homes

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<v Speaker 2>because his interest rates have been so high for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on top of that, the prices went up

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<v Speaker 2>because for so long the interest rates were so low,

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<v Speaker 2>you had people coming in buying if these houses, overbidding

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<v Speaker 2>for them, pricing up the properties, and those property values

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<v Speaker 2>have relatively stayed where they're at. So now you've got

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<v Speaker 2>the Fed talking about maybe a quarter point reduction here

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<v Speaker 2>in September, right in the wall streets looking for a half, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're only probably going to get a quarter. And

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<v Speaker 2>now you've got these high flying tech stocks that kept

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<v Speaker 2>Biden looking good for so long. Those are taking a

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<v Speaker 2>dump now, Like in Nvidia. People are looking at them

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<v Speaker 2>and saying, look at the valuation of Nvidia. It's gone,

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<v Speaker 2>it's out of control. You know. The AI hype is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of wearing off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And to that point, I love the memes that

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<v Speaker 1>I see on you know, the typical question is comparing

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<v Speaker 1>Trump to Kamala Harris formerly. You know, Biden, are you

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<v Speaker 1>better off now or are you better off under Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>And most of the vast majority of us felt like

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<v Speaker 1>we were better off under Trump, and for no other reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>the price of gasoline, the price of groceries, and the

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<v Speaker 1>price of and then someone on the left side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ledger will post the stock market and they'll show

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<v Speaker 1>you where it was back when Trump was president, and

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<v Speaker 1>where the numbers are now, Like, what do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>you better off now? You better off before? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking to myself, well, you know, there's a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folks that have the biggest problem out there with

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<v Speaker 1>the price of groceries, and they're on the life's lower

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<v Speaker 1>end of the margins. They're the folks who are struggling. Generally,

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<v Speaker 1>they aren't high paying high falutin kind of job. Folks.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not invested in the market, so you can show

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<v Speaker 1>them that figure all day long. They only wish they

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<v Speaker 1>had the extra money to be invested in the market.

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, they're struggling to figure out how they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to buy a pound of ground beef. Adam Kaylor

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<v Speaker 1>you can find them online at Adam Kaylor k o

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<v Speaker 1>E h l E R Adam Keyler dot com. Run

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<v Speaker 1>for County Commissioner. He's got some great ideas and I

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<v Speaker 1>like where you're on the Hamlin County Sheriff's Department. And

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<v Speaker 1>God bless Jim Neil. We got more with him. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get an update on the Tom Brickman's idea and

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<v Speaker 1>signature drive to get six hundred million of the railroad

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<v Speaker 1>money into a separate fund to help people pay the

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<v Speaker 1>real estate taxes. I just laugh every time I think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Fifty five krc DE Talk Station Brion Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>with Adam Kaylor in studio Adam Koehler dot com. Find

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<v Speaker 1>him online, help him out, get a yard sign and

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<v Speaker 1>help bring some diversity. If I may be so bold

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<v Speaker 1>and saying to the Hamilton County commissioners. I mean Adams

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<v Speaker 1>already pointed out, you know, in charge of budgeting, we

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<v Speaker 1>could limit how the sheriff budget is spent. We could

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<v Speaker 1>cut away some fat in that. But moving over, since

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<v Speaker 1>you are a city resident, and I know you've been

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<v Speaker 1>following this the whole railroad sale. Of course you were

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<v Speaker 1>against that. We led up to the sale of the

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<v Speaker 1>railroads one point six billion dollars in a fund earning money.

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<v Speaker 1>How that's doing, I don't know. But Tom Briankman come up,

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<v Speaker 1>comes up with the idea like, wow, everybody's property taxes

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<v Speaker 1>went through the roof, like a thirty percent across the

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<v Speaker 1>board increase, craziness, some seniors can't afford to even stay

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<v Speaker 1>in their home. Obviously caught us all off guard. But

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to take six hundred million dollars out of

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<v Speaker 1>that fund and put it in a separate invested fund

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<v Speaker 1>to help the residents of the city pay real estate taxes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>normally I'm against government programs like this, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you buy a property, then you should be in

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<v Speaker 1>a position to be able to pay your taxes. But

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<v Speaker 1>I did like the idea of taking that money away

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<v Speaker 1>from the government. I have to have purval and since

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<v Speaker 1>they city council, so they can't build another leg of

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<v Speaker 1>the street car or whatever. So where do you know

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<v Speaker 1>where we are in terms of how the signature gathering

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<v Speaker 1>is going, or how people are receiving this or they

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of it. What's the story on this out?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you they You know, I've been dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with some people down in Salor Park and they love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people in Cincinnati really like the idea. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>with the city of Cincinnati is you got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of renters, so they don't understand why this would benefit them.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, as a landlord, if my property taxes

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<v Speaker 2>go up, I'm going to pass that on again. And

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<v Speaker 2>most landlords are going to pass that on and tack

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<v Speaker 2>on something because they see that as an opportunity. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 2>property tax went up, I'm gonna have to raise your rent,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna have to tack a little something extra side

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<v Speaker 2>of that. Right, So it does affect renters. But you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>what are they doing with this one point six down here?

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<v Speaker 2>What do we think they're gonna do with that? We

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. A lot of people are saying, hey, they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna buld An Arena with it. They're gonna do this

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<v Speaker 2>with They're gonna do that with it. They've got some

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<v Speaker 2>plan for that money. Right, do we trust city Council?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we trust the Railroad Board? After they lied to

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<v Speaker 2>us in the whole campaign, They completely lied to us

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<v Speaker 2>about practically everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I want fred Street to get fixed and paved.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we got forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Where Sunset Avenue. Can you fix that one?

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<v Speaker 1>Lord almighty, it's been a wreck for how many years?

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<v Speaker 2>You take a left from Queen City on there in

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<v Speaker 2>your right lane?

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<v Speaker 1>You need an alignment boomah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean your shocks and everything are screwed.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything, you know. And and I was obviously the absurdity

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<v Speaker 1>of the American rescue plan. I was pointing out that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I, as American tax players, under a rescue

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<v Speaker 1>plan that was supposed to be dealing with COVID related problems,

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<v Speaker 1>we ended up building water parks and paid for advertising

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<v Speaker 1>campaigns for horse racing. And you know, that's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing that money isolates to be limited to existing infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>It means Fred Street might get fixed because we got

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<v Speaker 1>a billion six in the bank generating revenue. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you trust them? To keep it limited to something that

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<v Speaker 1>already exists, like the streets, the buildings that are crumbling,

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<v Speaker 1>the bridges that are crumbling, the things that they have

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and Brinckman is really smart about this, and people

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<v Speaker 2>are like, oh, Brickman data, he's shaking it up. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what they did at city council They got rid

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<v Speaker 2>of a property tax cap that had property taxes at

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine million dollars for twenty years. In twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>six to nine, they voted to get rid of that

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<v Speaker 2>property tax cap. Now it's creeping back up. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's at thirty two maybe thirty six million now. So

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time they got rid of the property

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<v Speaker 2>tax cap, when people were complaining about their property taxes

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<v Speaker 2>going up, what do they do? They pointed finger at

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans in state of Ohio. They say, it's the state

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<v Speaker 2>House's problem, it's the law. There's nothing we can do.

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<v Speaker 2>They said that, Brian, there's nothing we can do. So

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<v Speaker 2>what does Brinkman do? He does something about it. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>we got one point six sitting here. He's like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>say we take six hundred million dollars out of that

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<v Speaker 2>one point six You told us UBS who's managing the money,

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<v Speaker 2>told us that they're making six and a half percent

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<v Speaker 2>on that money. Right, if you make six and a

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<v Speaker 2>half percent on six hundred million, that's thirty nine million

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<v Speaker 2>that pays property taxes, and then you have some leftover

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<v Speaker 2>to roll back into that six hundred million dollar trust.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing, which pays property taxes potentially indefinitely. You have

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<v Speaker 2>good years and bad years. Right, this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the arguments we had to gain with the railroad. The

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<v Speaker 2>same problem with the railroad. You're gonna have the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same problem in the railroad. So put it into a

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<v Speaker 2>property tax trust. And then what does that do for

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<v Speaker 2>the pr the city of Cincinnati. You've got people fleeing

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<v Speaker 2>the City of Cincinnati, fleeing Hamilton County. Now you can say,

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<v Speaker 2>why would you move to Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Co. Lumbus. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have property taxes to pay in city Cincinnati because

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<v Speaker 2>there's this trust. Did Pittsburgh have a railroad to sell?

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<v Speaker 2>Did Indianapolis have a railroad to sell? No, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want affordable housing, you can come to the city Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why city council wouldn't be behind this,

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<v Speaker 2>don't they want more people to move back to Cincinnati. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're handing this to you want to a silver platter,

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<v Speaker 2>This pr opportunity and whether or not it pays it forever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the idea that they are trying that somebody like

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Brakman is out here saying, you know what, quit

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<v Speaker 2>pointing fingers and actually do something for a change. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what this is about.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Kalk. Will we have a chance to vote on that?

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<v Speaker 1>If not by November, if they don't collect the next signatures,

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<v Speaker 1>the signature campaign will continue. They'll collect enough at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe on a special election, maybe in.

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<v Speaker 2>The spring, maybe December, January.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, yes, well it's coming at some point and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>all get a chance to chime in at Adam Kaylor

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. So you find Adam helps campaign out, get

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<v Speaker 1>a campaign sign He is running for Hamilton Kenny commission

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<v Speaker 1>and we could use a guy like Adam on the

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<v Speaker 1>Hamilton County Commissioner board so we get some better ideas

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<v Speaker 1>and some exchange of different concepts. Adam, You're always welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the studio, my brother. We'll have a good have

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<v Speaker 1>a great week. We'll talk again obviously between now and November,

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<v Speaker 1>so stay well.